Won’t Be Easy

Posted: October 18th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 189 Comments »

The Eagles have now lost 2 games in a row. They just need to bounce back.


Uh, okay. That looks tough.

But wait a minute. The Eagles were clearly superior on paper to both the Lions and Skins. That’s the beauty of the NFL. You never know what is going to happen on a given Sunday. Is a team hungry? Or complacent? Aggressive or nervous? Healthy? There are a lot of factors that go into a game.

Matchups are huge. It’s clear right now that Kirk Cousins has the Eagles number. The Eagles have had the Giants number in recent years. Sometimes that’s just how things go.

It would be convenient for the Eagles to have a soft schedule so they could pile up some wins, but in a way the tough schedule is the best thing possible. The worst thing that can happen this season is for the Eagles to win a bunch of games and get a false sense of security with this roster. Clearly there are positions that need an upgrade. If the team got on some crazy roll and went 12-4, Howie and Doug might get too comfortable with their own players. This isn’t a 12-win roster.

I still want this team to win and even overachieve, but it needs to be tested. We need to know what this team really is.

The Jets went 10-6 last year, surprising everyone. They decided they were close to being a serious contender so they signed a pair of starters over 30 (LT Ryan Clady and RB Matt Forte). They kept another pair of older stars in Darrelle Revis and Brandon Marshall. The Jets tried to go cheap at QB and waited until August to finally bring back Ryan Fitzpatrick, also 30+.

Things have not gone well this year. The weight of expectations has brought out the worst in the team and they are 1-5. They are also old and now have a lot of serious questions. Todd Bowles looked like a coaching star last year, but now you wonder about his job security, although I think the GM is even more at fault.

I want the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. That means building a Super Bowl roster. You don’t do that by beating up on crappy teams. You want to face tough competition so you can see which of your players are good and which guys are still getting by on the “he’s got potential” label.

The Eagles know Carson Wentz is the real deal ( I need to do a full post on that) and that is the key to this whole puzzle. Get the right QB and everything else can be worked out.

I look forward to the challenging schedule. Let’s find out who can play and who can’t. I hope guys like Nelson Agholor and Marcus Smith stand up. I hope rookies like Jalen Mills and Big V get better. But at the end of the day, we need answers. The goal isn’t to be “good enough”. The goal is to build a championship team and if that means losing some games to weed out the guys who don’t belong, so be it.


189 Comments on “Won’t Be Easy”

  1. 1 Won’t Be Easy - said at 1:07 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor The Eagles have now lost 2 games in a row. They just need to bounce back. The Eagles next 6 games. […]

  2. 2 Greg Tulino said at 1:29 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    It pains me that the Cowboys have a super bowl contending roster that can win by controlling the line of scrimmage with their O-line. They are building leads on teams and their defense isn’t getting exposed because they are making teams one dimensional forcing them to pass to catch up.
    With regards to the Eagles upcoming schedule I honestly can’t find a win in the next 5 games. Our run defense has been exposed and lack of playmakers on offense coupled with poor O-line play is a recipe for disaster.
    I believe we are a 7 win team that has found it’s QB for the next decade. I also believe we have found a competent head coach who will only learn and get better with experience. Lets not forget he is a rookie HC. I look forward to watching CW continue to learn and for the offseason to add talent on the O-line , WR, CB and at LB.

  3. 3 Anders said at 2:11 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Dallas did the same in 2014. Not sure it holds for a whole year and in the play offs. What happens if Dak has to throw 40 times?

  4. 4 Ankerstjernen said at 4:17 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I completely agree about Dallas. They are built to win with a low variance, ball control gameplan that protects their defense and doesn’t ask their QB to create much by himself. As long as it works, it works fine, it masks their weakspots. But at some point – in the playoffs – you are going against good offenses who can put up points and put you in a hole. And who can take away the run. And then what? Are we going to see Dak make wow-throws to Bryce Butler down the field? I would like to see that. This is why their ceiling is higher with Romo. I think the Cowboys are being overrated right now, and Dak especially. But then, what else is new..

  5. 5 Media Mike said at 6:44 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    “What happens if Dak has to throw 40 times?”

    2 INTs, a fumble, and a Dallas lost. Mobile Chad Pennington doesn’t impress me.

  6. 6 Anders said at 2:15 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Regarding talent. Right now its clearly OL and CB that are lacking the most.

  7. 7 The original AG said at 4:57 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    The WR are the worst unit on the team.

  8. 8 Media Mike said at 6:56 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    You might be correct, but not the unit that is hurting the team the most. The lack of premium talent at several O-line spots and CB is a bigger limiting factor on the team’s success. McNabb had this team with 11, 11, 12, and 12 wins in 2000-03 with Johnson/Small and Pinkston/Thrash in an era where DBs could more easily interfere with receivers.

    I really need the line shored up and a shutdown corner here before I get worked up over WR.

  9. 9 The original AG said at 9:41 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I absolutely agree OL is the #1 priority, but personally I’d work that WR position before CB. They can get help from the safeties, but Wentz needs a reliable target. Matthews out of the slot isn’t enough. I’m starting to lose faith in Ertz. I think Smallwood is a good start at RB.

  10. 10 Greg Tulino said at 1:43 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    Remember that the NFC east outside of the Eagles was terrible during that stretch (2000 -2004) with Donovan which really helped us achieve what we did during those years. I agree however, that O-line and CB are top priorities moving forward.

  11. 11 Anders said at 7:43 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    As MM said, they are not hurting us as long as the defense do not allow too many points and the OL can pass protect for more than 0.5 sec

  12. 12 kajomo said at 7:50 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Who cares. WRs don’t win championships. Top QBs win by making everyone else around them better. When Wentz is protected he can shine with these WRs.

    Plus it’s not just about the WRs. We have good TEs and RBs fo the passing game

  13. 13 Jean_csouz said at 7:53 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I do not think so. OL, CB and RB clearly are more needing positions.

  14. 14 Buge Halls said at 8:26 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I would add LB as well

  15. 15 Anders said at 8:39 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I say Bradham+Hicks has been good for most. Just get Kendrick far away

  16. 16 sonofdman said at 2:22 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    You really can’t imagine the Eagles beating the Giants?

  17. 17 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:57 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Lol poor pathetic Giants

  18. 18 Buge Halls said at 8:24 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    This is what happens when you have coaches who for years don’t consider the OL as important. Both Reid and Kelly neglected the OL year after year in the upper rounds of the draft. High picks spent on linemen aren’t sexy, but you need them! Peters is almost done, Johnson is one more “supplement” away from a two-year suspension, Kelce is working on his third bad season in a row, and the rest of the line are nothing but backups. It’s going to take some time to rebuild.

  19. 19 holeplug said at 9:04 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Reid did not neglect the OL. Chip did tho

  20. 20 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:31 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Not sure what annoys me more, posts like this, or people talking Super Bowl after we win a few games.
    Do you think that every team that lost sunday is trash? We lose two games and we are back to 6 win team expectations? Lol overreactionary woman…
    The skins started the year on a two game winning streak, did they tuck their tails like Bitches and waive the white flag on the season? No, they went on to win the next 4 games, and we aren’t talking about Some juggernaut of a team..
    Doesn’t this city get tired of always living on these ridiculous extremes? Win a couple games and we are an 11 or 12’win team… Lose a couple games and we are back to being a 6 win team….. It’s like we never been exposed to the ebs and flows of an NFL season before…. The truth Probably lies somewhere in the middle. I don’t expect to win a superbowl, but there is no reason we should feel like we can’t win this division… I felt that way going into the season, I felt that way after 3-0 start, and there is no reason to feel any different after losing two games..
    Most people treated Bradford like Dog shit when he was here, even tho we refused to take into account the real life factors he was trying to overcome…now that he is the QB of the big bad Vikings, people act like we have no chance this week
    If the NFL was as predictable as fans like to pretend it is, this game WOULDNT be half as popular as it is…. If we are going to pound our chest when we are 3-0, we Probably shouldn’t cower in fear the moment some adversity presents itself…. We,got our teeth kicked in sunday, fortunately in a few days we will have an opportunity to do something about it…I don’t view us as a legit contemder, but I am certain that we are capable of a lot more than we saw in Washington

    Really wish we could deal with a win or loss without pretending it has revealed the destiny of the 2016 season..
    We are 3-2 with an entire season in front of us in a league where one week can change the entire landscape of the season….. Relax, we are going back to the crib this week where our rookie renergized our Homefield advantage for the first time in years…

  21. 21 P_P_K said at 9:38 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I agree with your first and third paragraphs. I’m trying not to agree with the second. I hope the Eagles at least beat the Giants during the upcoming stretch.

  22. 22 The original AG said at 5:11 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    People are really worried about Pederson being a Reid-clone. But there are some things Andy got right. He built the defense to be good, he believed in getting a good OL, and also believed in ball control. You can build a perennial contender this way.

    Some of the things we’ve seen may be concerning, but we have to wait to see how Doug adjusts. Before the Detroit game we discussed how Doug called a good game in the first three. The last two games all the sudden he’s Andy Reid and it was a bad hire (Hi Negadelphia).

    I’m still high on Pederson (and the team). We played like crap the last two weeks and came close to winning both games. Clean up the mistakes and we can start getting in the win column.

    Then lets see what magic Roseman works this offseason. He probably needs another two to put us in real contention, but if he has another offseason like the one we just had – then I think we are a step closer to getting back to the promised land.

  23. 23 Anders said at 5:37 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Doug also believe in a good OL, but he had to use last draft to get a great QB first.

    We did go out and get Brooks in FA, but it sadly takes more than 1 draft and 1 FA period to undone Kelly’s total lack of focus on the OL

  24. 24 Buge Halls said at 8:27 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    The one thing that Doug has done so far that Andy never did was manage the clock well. After 5 games, I don’t recall a wasted timeout in the 1st qtr. It is really a nice thing to get to the end of the half or game and still have all three timeouts waiting to be used.

  25. 25 ChoTime said at 10:14 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Reid, for all his annoying faults, is a great coach. What he lacked was an elite QB. Donnie was very good, just not quite good enough. They still easily could have won one or two, if things had fallen our way.

  26. 26 Media Mike said at 10:18 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Better D gameplan vs. Tampa in 2002. Taking game vs. Arizona seriously in 2008.

  27. 27 ChoTime said at 11:32 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I don’t know about 2008, I think the Cards were favored by a lot of people.

  28. 28 The original AG said at 5:21 AM on October 18th, 2016:


  29. 29 Media Mike said at 6:46 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Jason, are you sure you don’t think an extra week of rest would help you?

  30. 30 Buge Halls said at 8:28 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Maybe an extra 11 weeks?

  31. 31 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:55 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Fuck this! After Wisnewski selfish comments following a tôugh division loss, I wouldn’t even let him dress this week

  32. 32 Julescat said at 9:29 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    how was it a selfish comment? I read the article but didn’t come away thinking that.

  33. 33 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:39 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    That’s fine…. I’d rather hear a veteran support the rookie who just had a tough loss instead seperating yourself from the coaching decision and making it about Me, Me, Me and more Me..
    After a hurtful loss like that, you either support your coaches/teammates, or you bite your tongue and STFU…
    He should of protected the rookie to the media, instead he was all too happy to see everyone viewing him as a failure to feel better about him being passed over to start..

  34. 34 Julescat said at 10:47 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I kinda thought he said the coaches are smart and they’ll correct things. That’s an answer you might give after being in a bad loss.

    He could have been more supportive but he didn’t criticize the rookie directly.

  35. 35 Cafone said at 11:07 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I agree. It sounds like people are looking to stir controversy where none actually exists.

  36. 36 iceberg584 said at 12:24 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    We probably shouldn’t overreact, but I *do* think he was suggesting that the coaches should make a change (to his benefit), and if they did otherwise, then they’re stupid. From his first press conference, Wisniewski has stated that he’s here to showcase himself for a future contract. He’s a mercenary, we shouldn’t expect anything different.

  37. 37 anon said at 11:17 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    “plantar fasciitis” huh?

  38. 38 greenblood0118 said at 5:36 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’m tired of the Eagles’ false sense of security…it’s been happening ever since Reid was here…every time the media and fans put them on some pedestal, they promptly step down off of it, pour gasoline all over it, and watch it burn along with our playoff hopes. Hopefully things turn around…

  39. 39 Buge Halls said at 8:29 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Did you really expect a playoff run in the first year of a long overdue rebuild? Take what joy you can out of the wins that come this year knowing that the best years are to come.

  40. 40 ChoTime said at 11:39 AM on October 18th, 2016:


  41. 41 The original AG said at 5:41 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Rewatched that last drive. OL should be fired for the 2nd down sack. Skins rushed 3, and the OL didn’t play through the play. I’d like to blame Kelce, but after 3-4 seconds it’s like the whole line just didn’t feel like playing anymore. Had it not broke down, he could have hit Ertz to the left side for about a 10 yard gain and getting out of bounds.

    The 2nd sack on 3rd down the pocket just collapsed. Terrible.

  42. 42 The original AG said at 5:50 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    That 57 yard run that ended the game – Hicks took a bad angle and just whiffed.

    Is Hicks better served on the outside?

  43. 43 Media Mike said at 6:46 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Seth Joyner thinks so. You’d free him up to be a run and hit WIL who’d make less mistakes than Kendricks. Bur I’m not sure how many downs we’re playing 3 LBs.

  44. 44 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:53 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Think they like his leadership and football IQ at the MIKE spot where he can QB the defense…
    If we find a quality WIL up to par with Bradhams level of play, we should be able to leave Hicks in the middle.. It’s still pretty early, im sure hicks is still getting comfortable in schwartz defense which is a very different way of playing than the scheme hicks shined in last year
    Hopefully he stays healthy so we can find out one way or another by the end of the season

  45. 45 Media Mike said at 6:43 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Vikings tough, but at home.
    Dallas = fraud
    Giants = fraud
    Atlanta tough, but at home
    Seattle = no chance
    GB = lost to Dallas, so a disgraceful fraud

    Outside of at Seattle, there isn’t a game on here that proper execution doesn’t allow us to win. But after the last two wees we really can’t trust that execution.

  46. 46 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:59 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Giants aren’t even frauds. Everyone knows they are trash…. You have to fool people to be a fraud… By now, everyone should understand not to fear a team with that joke of an OL
    Mills knows ODB well, curious to see if he can push his buttons and make him lose control

  47. 47 Media Mike said at 10:03 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’d trade Mills for ODB in that game if they want to brawl.

  48. 48 Aaron said at 9:19 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    to say dallas is a fraud just proves you’re lack of football IQ, I cant stand the cowboys but they are for real

  49. 49 Julescat said at 9:28 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    cowboys hit on 2 draft choices that have turned their offense around. it’s not a fraud.

  50. 50 anon said at 11:15 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    man excited on the day we hit on 2 draft choices – especially in one year

  51. 51 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:56 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    We have 6 games left outside the division and 5 division games left..
    I’d be THRILLED if we could go 3-3 in those outer division games bringing our record to 6-5 and putting us in position to control our own destiny in those 5 division games (assume we sweep the Giants again, and I’ll continue to assume that every year until they adequately adress their OL mess)

    Going into the season our schedule Probably looked tougher than it looks today… Home vs Ravens, @Bengals, home vs Packers DONT look half as scary as it looked in August….
    @ Seattle looks pretty scary especially without Lane. To have any chance of winning THAT game, the DL would have to Step up and dominate seattle OL which won’t scare anyone, and put us in position to squeek out a low scoring defensive battle…
    Falcons offense is scary, but we have done pretty well whenever Matt Ryan comes back to philly.
    The Vikings are absolutely legit, and there is no way we are supposed to win this game, but im going with the upset special this week. I like how this team responded when we were a home underdog against the steelers and no one was giving us a chance..
    What scares me the most about the rest of the schedule is how Kendricks will hold up against BIGTIME pass catching RBs like Gio Bernard(bengals) and Tevin Coleman(Falcons)
    It’s certainly a difficult schedule, but I like our chances in this division.. We might even see a Wildcard team come out of our division which no one thought was possible going into the season

  52. 52 anon said at 11:14 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    i bet everyone on our schedule is looking at our game like a w. especially everyone with a no. 1 receiver.

  53. 53 GermanEagle said at 6:48 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Since our upcoming opponent on Sunday, the Minnesota Vikings, are the last unbeaten team this season, I was wondering if the Eagles could at least make a little NFL history with an upset win.

    However when looking at the list of the last unbeaten teams each NFL season, it doesn’t seem to be like that. However the following link is quite interesting:


  54. 54 P_P_K said at 9:35 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I heard somewhere that the guys on the ’72 Dolphins raise a toast each year when the last undefeated team gets beaten.

  55. 55 Media Mike said at 10:02 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    They’re lucky the 85 Bears took a mental week off vs. the Dolphins this year. That 72 Dolphins team would have lost to 75%+ of all other Super Bowl winners.

  56. 56 Cafone said at 11:04 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    “That’s probably the most-talked-about thing that just doesn’t happen. We’ve got players scattered all across the country. Nick Buoniconti, Bob Griese and Dick Anderson all live in Coral Gables, and they’ll go to a parking lot and open a bottle of champagne, but those three are too cheap to invite the rest of us down there.” – Shula


  57. 57 P_P_K said at 1:54 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Good link, I always thought that was fact. Guess the retirees from the 2017 Eagles perfect season will have to start the tradition.

  58. 58 scratcherk said at 9:03 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Life is boring when you have to avoid sports radio and football blogs for the week. I’ve only listened to about 3 minutes of Mike and Mike so far this week and it was of course cowboys slobbering. Cant take that. Till next week hopefully…

  59. 59 Cafone said at 10:55 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Remove sports radio from your memory stations and your life will be happier and you will be a better person. I recommend NPR and WXPN 88.5

  60. 60 anon said at 11:12 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    always wondered how npr could be so popular, now i get it.

  61. 61 Cafone said at 12:11 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Unfortunately the are on a donor drive right now so it becomes unlistenable for large parts of the day.

  62. 62 BobSmith77 said at 9:04 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    2-4 is realistic through this next stretch. Maybe 3-3 if they steal a game the next 2 weeks.

  63. 63 Julescat said at 9:26 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    who do they beat to get 2 wins?

  64. 64 Media Mike said at 10:01 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Giants and a random.

  65. 65 Julescat said at 10:42 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    from your post to the football gods ears

  66. 66 Nick C said at 11:08 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    We’ll go 5-1 and lose to the Giants… lol

  67. 67 P_P_K said at 1:52 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    That would be awesome. And it would figure.

  68. 68 BobSmith77 said at 12:30 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    That is what I was thinking.

  69. 69 SteveH said at 9:23 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I don’t care whether the opponent is easy or tough, the way the Eagles played last week makes it hard to be invested in this season. It’s the sloppiness and dumb penalties that get me. If the Eagles are just having a bad day at the office and the run D isn’t working for whatever reason, ok, that happens, but it’s tough for me when the team is shooting itself in the foot over and over and over.

  70. 70 Media Mike said at 10:01 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I agree last week was corn-infused fecal matter (especially because it was against Washington), but I’m ALWAYS invested in the season.

  71. 71 BlindChow said at 10:38 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    It doesn’t help that it’s the same garbage we’ve been seeing the last two years (and even at the end of the Reid era). It feels like we’ve seen this movie before; the coaches don’t adjust and the players check out. I guess we have Wentz now, at least?

  72. 72 Cafone said at 10:53 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Eagles fans will not forgive a coach who repeats the same mistakes. We will not tolerate a coach who refuses to acknowledge errors that are apparent to anyone at the stadium or watching on TV.

    We expect growing pains with a new coach. We don’t expect everything to be perfect. But an Eagles coach needs to be able to self scout and correct issues or he will be deservedly vilified as an idiot and a fool.

  73. 73 anon said at 11:11 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    watching the same football game 2 weeks in a row wasn’t fun

  74. 74 peteike said at 12:09 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Doug might be trying to be opposite of CK. On the players sides to a fault, so he sticks with them for maybe too long. Im fine with that to a degree but as fans we cant over react after every game either. HPV for example, they pull him after one game and then his replacement is just as bad, then what, where do you go. He was a 5th rounder so hes going to take some time. Its more of when they decide its a rebuild vs competing for the season/division. I dont think they know that yet but it could be soon. In which case, Id like to see other WRs get more chances and theres plenty of that kind of stuff to go around.

  75. 75 P_P_K said at 1:51 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    But we put up with Andy Reid’s boneheaded time management and inability to call running plays.

  76. 76 anon said at 11:11 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    the bucks have jameis winston, the colts have andrew luck, chargers have phil rivers, rams have goff, the skins had rgiii, etc.

  77. 77 BlindChow said at 3:50 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Rivers is the only one comparable imo. And I’d have been happy with him here, too.

  78. 78 Blackfoot said at 1:20 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    at most

  79. 79 Media Mike said at 10:05 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Brenton! might want to consider changing his twitter avatar lest he get lumped in with some really vile “people.”

  80. 80 ChoTime said at 10:16 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    … frogs?

  81. 81 Media Mike said at 10:18 AM on October 18th, 2016:


    Really bad deal.

  82. 82 Cafone said at 10:44 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    That’s a bunch of nonsense in my opinion. If people started photoshopping Nazi armbands on Mickey Mouse would that mean that Mickey Mouse would then be labeled as hate symbol?

    Leave the “feels good man” frog alone!

  83. 83 Julescat said at 10:45 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    it’s a crazy time of the year

  84. 84 ChoTime said at 11:31 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Bizarre. I am getting old. Not only am I out of touch, I still don’t understand after reading the article.

  85. 85 Cafone said at 10:42 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    If Vaitai gets Wentz injured, should Pederson be fired and then lynched, or just fired?

  86. 86 D3FB said at 11:13 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    And if Peters or Brooks gets him injured?

  87. 87 Cafone said at 12:08 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Not the same thing.

    Everyone has known for months that Johnson would be suspended, but Pederson didn’t think it was necessary for his eventual replacement to even dress on game days. The Eagles have had some pretty big 4th quarter leads. Vaitai could have entered Sunday’s game with actual game experience.

    And now they are going to stick with Vaitai against the Vikings defense?! Hey, maybe Pederson will be right and Vaitai will be fine. But he wasn’t right last week about Vaitai being ready.

  88. 88 D3FB said at 12:57 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    10 snaps in garbage time would not have made a difference.

  89. 89 The original AG said at 6:21 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I think they want to give Vaitai time to get better. He can only do that by getting in-game snaps. A lot of his issues can be fixed with practice. He’s seen action, understands what he has to do, and he’ll get better.

    A couple of them was HPV missing the assignment altogether. That in itself will help a large amount.

    He also improved as the game went along, but it gets lost in the rest of the line played crappy.

  90. 90 P_P_K said at 1:50 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I hear what you’re saying but what can Doug do? His O line is a mess. Any attempt solution could end up in a situation worse than the current problem. Maybe Lane is the one who should be lynched.

  91. 91 Geoff said at 10:51 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    My biggest fear right now is that we just became the Chargers of a decade ago…

    Established QB unceremoniously dumped for a high draft pick; both who are now performing at a high level on successful teams… departing QB becomes all-time great, draft pick becomes his generation’s Dan Marino…

    I know this isn’t a perfect parallel (chances of Sam Bradford becoming an all-time great are much lower than Brees’s were IMO), but it’s my fear anyway

  92. 92 Cafone said at 11:00 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    That’s kind of a strange fear. It’s certainly not on my list. I don’t even like Bradford, but I wish him well and won’t begrudge him any success. Even if he is extremely successful I doubt it will bother me because I don’t think he would have found that success in Philadelphia anyway.

  93. 93 Geoff said at 11:16 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I suppose I’m less concerned about the success Bradford has (or doesn’t have), and more concerned about having to be in a situation like the Chargers, where you have a great QB but the bounces just keep not going your way:

    – draft a stud WR who plays at an all-pro level; multiple season ending injuries
    – top ten all-time TE and RB play for almost their entire career with your HoF QB; can’t get past the 2nd round

  94. 94 Cafone said at 12:05 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    The Chargers didn’t have Howie Roseman. 🙂

    Seriously, look what he did in one year. Now that he practically has full control, think about what he’s going to next year and the year after. Roseman will put a team around Wentz and if Pederson can’t coach it to victory, then Roseman will bring in another coach.

  95. 95 peteike said at 12:05 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    exactly and I dont care about a guy who won 7 games for this team. Dont see him becoming “all time great”, thats laughable

  96. 96 P_P_K said at 1:48 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    We got Wentz, a qb with a higher ceiling than Bradford, plus those draft picks from Minn. Good dealing by Howie.

  97. 97 Tom33 said at 11:19 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I would definitely “settle” for Wentz becoming this generation’s Dan Marino.

    I assume you meant no SB’s, but I’d take top 3 all time passing stats all day long.

    p.s. – for the record, I was always a Montana over Marino guy. But you gotta respect what he accomplished.

  98. 98 Rich kisby said at 11:19 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Great test for the defense. Need to find out how good or bad they really are. Vikings not scary on offense,defense needs to get off the field,make third down stops and cut down the penalties . Can’t stay in games without them. Offense is limited with that o-line. Need low scoring games , KidCarson needs some help . Jason is getting blown up at center position . Gotta stick with the run ,no matter what

  99. 99 anon said at 11:23 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    be interesting to see wentz put the team on his back. though high balls aren’t hurting us yet but i think teams are going to start scheming for the the fact when he’s pressured he misses high

  100. 100 anon said at 11:25 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    Doug Pederson mentioned Jordan Matthews when listing injuries but didn’t name injury. It’s knee tendonitis. Dougy P says also not changing gameplan given bradfords familiarity w/ playbook – only one guy has the whole playbook

  101. 101 BlindChow said at 3:42 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Luckily that one guy is a mute who can’t draw or write. No way he’ll be able to share any inside info with his coaches…

  102. 102 Seth S. Scott said at 11:39 AM on October 18th, 2016:

    I think the Eagles can easily, ok not easily, go 3-3 in the next 6 games. If there is one team that could hopefully stop the rolling Vikes its gonna be Philly. They’ve had the most practice against Bradford over the last two years and as long as they dont drop more than 1 TD in the first quarter they should be fine.

    Also, Dallas is WAITING for an upset and perfect timing after a bye week so a bunch of drama to get inside Dak’s head on the QB sitch and then the Eagles can rock em.

    Eagles have been in it till the end the last two weeks and without some TERRIBLLL calls against them negating some key throws, they might have won those games.

    Watch this team win the next 3 straight.

  103. 103 peteike said at 12:03 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I am much more worried about the offense going against that Vikes D. Hopefully they can keep it close and pull one out at the end

  104. 104 Cafone said at 12:14 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    They can knock out Bradford in the 1st quarter and then win on special teams touchdowns!

  105. 105 ChoTime said at 12:35 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I still don’t believe in Bradford. Keep your guy in front of you and tackle well on the inevitable checkdowns and dumpoffs. Get in his face and use some of that $500M DL to put him on the ground a few times. It’s on the O to put some points on the board against the talented Minnesota D.

  106. 106 anon said at 3:11 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Offense got 6pts against WAS. Will say WAS o-line is years better than Minny’s – but if Minny can run on us it’ll be a long day.

  107. 107 Media Mike said at 12:08 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Out of sheer annoyance at having lost Sunday


  108. 108 GermanEagle said at 12:11 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Mock drafts already?! Cmon man…

  109. 109 Media Mike said at 12:11 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’m really not ok with Sunday yet.

  110. 110 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:33 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I feel you. Can’t watch TV, can’t listen to radio. I’d go into a medically induced coma TIL sunday if I could. Losing streak against Washington is humiliating

  111. 111 peteike said at 12:11 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    trade a lb for another O line guy and I like the positions anyway

  112. 112 Media Mike said at 12:17 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Did you say trades?

    Round 2 Pick 5 (CHI): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 5 (CHI): Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Elijah Qualls, DT, Washington (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Stacy Coley, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 20: David Jones, FS, Richmond (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 19: Jessamen Dunker, OG, Tennessee State (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: James Onwualu, OLB, Notre Dame (A-)

  113. 113 John Galt said at 7:46 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Have no idea who Jessamen Dunker is, but he is first team all name as a rookie.

  114. 114 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:19 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Not neccessarily… Looking like this draft class may be really strong with linebackers. If a stud falls to us, I wouldn’t be upset if they felt like a LB happens to be too good to pass up, Cough Cough Reakwon McMillian cough cough…
    Wish it was a stronger year for offensive tackle prospects

  115. 115 Cafone said at 12:15 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I don’t think Wilsonohio will be available that late. State’s looking good this year.

  116. 116 Media Mike said at 12:17 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’m totally not up on the guy’s spots yet, I just needed to take a run at a mock.

  117. 117 John Galt said at 7:44 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I am guessing you are giving us 32 in the hope that Minny wins the SB to get us the 2nd rounder – but I am not fully sold on the Vikings yet. Offense is pretty pedestrian and while the D is really good I don’t love their secondary aside from Rhodes. They are very good, I just don’t happen to think they are super bowl good.

  118. 118 Sean Stott said at 12:30 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Drain the swamp!

  119. 119 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:27 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Drives me crazy that we continue to empower that fat slob Chris Bakers shit talking…
    Will an eagle team please grow a pair and do something about this humiliating losing streak against Washington? I can’t take them sweeping us again this this year. Someone please hit their turd of a QB

  120. 120 A_T_G said at 1:49 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Boy, everybody is just a little too upbeat around here for me. This should fix it:

  121. 121 P_P_K said at 1:54 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Have you no mercy?

  122. 122 A_T_G said at 2:07 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I just don’t want to cry alone any more.

  123. 123 anon said at 3:09 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    To be fair we use WRs mainly for blockers. Probably why CK doesn’t want to pay any of them.

  124. 124 GermanEagle said at 3:14 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    One more reason to not bring back DeSean next year. *smh

  125. 125 SteveH said at 4:28 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Let me turn this belt into a noose real quick…

  126. 126 Ark87 said at 5:29 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Feels like it’s only a matter of time before DGB clears that bum out of here. He have had 61 yards on 2 catches if not for that penalty. Get rid of that penalty and catch 1 more pass (2 catches on 5 targets leaves room for improvement) and we can get rid of that stat.

  127. 127 The original AG said at 6:10 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    He’s got to learn to run the correct routes all the time. He’s still struggling with that.

  128. 128 Insomniac said at 6:35 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    We need to bring Avant back for that to happen.

  129. 129 John Galt said at 7:42 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Are you looking at all 22 to know that or reading it somewhere? I don’t doubt you are right, he had the reputation for being dumb as a box of rocks when he came over here, just wondering how you are confirming.

  130. 130 The original AG said at 10:05 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I have the replay and can watch the coaches film. While I don’t understand the nuances, when I hear breakdown of the tape from Baldinger (who is the critical one), I can go back and try to teach myself what he’s looking at.

    Basically Baldy was saying (and I can see what he means) is that a couple of throws to DGB looked like bad passes when you’re watching the game. But the film shows that Wentz threw to a spot and DGB was going to a different spot.

    Could be that he’s still learning the playbook, or that the Titans knew what they were getting rid of.

  131. 131 The original AG said at 10:06 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    But I should add that he has size, speed, and he’s tough to bring down. If the Eagles can somehow get the playbook to sink in, he could be a stud.

  132. 132 BobSmith77 said at 12:23 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    Get the impression that the way the coaching staff and reporters talk about DGB that he is dumb as a pile of bricks. They just can’t come out & be that blunt on DGB or Huff.

  133. 133 ChoTime said at 11:35 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Is it normal for other receivers to get 70 yards when there is a top target, lots of screens, and several receiving TE threats?

  134. 134 A_T_G said at 7:59 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    Maybe not normal, but Riley Cooper managed to pull it off.

  135. 135 A_T_G said at 2:07 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Somehow, nowhere in here does he admonish reporters to get off of his lawn…

  136. 136 Media Mike said at 2:08 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I agree with Belichick. You can throw the e-readers in the trash while you’re at it. Give me a real book.

  137. 137 GermanEagle said at 3:23 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    If Sammy Sleeves continues to play like that what are the odds that Jimmy K. Openly admits on Twitter that he was wrong all along?!

  138. 138 GermanEagle said at 3:25 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    And BLG?!

  139. 139 anon said at 3:38 PM on October 18th, 2016:


    Bradford isn’t doing a ton more than Wentz, i think we probably would have won a game or two more with bradford, but there’s cost-benefit to a rebuild.

    Bradford, like wentz is careful with the ball. He’s much more accurate but much less aggressive.

  140. 140 GermanEagle said at 4:06 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Maybe – just maybe – we would have beaten the Lions.

    But more likely – much more likely – it had more to do with our WRs than anything else when it came down to criticising Sammy Sleeves?!

  141. 141 BlindChow said at 4:24 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I think it’s a stretch that Bradford would have beaten the Lions. He wouldn’t have thrown that final interception probably (doesn’t throw that far downfield), but he also wouldn’t have thrown to any receiver not already wide open (unlike Wentz, who can “throw guys open”).

    Bradford also sucks against pressure (50% completion rate last year), and can’t throw past the sticks on 3rd down. There’s a reason the Vikings are dead last in total offense. I’ll take Wentz.

  142. 142 anon said at 4:27 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Plently of built in excuses for Sammy Dollaz.

  143. 143 BlindChow said at 4:31 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    As always with him…

  144. 144 GermanEagle said at 5:15 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Cmon man.

    You cannot seriously deny that he’s having a FINE season.

  145. 145 ChoTime said at 11:32 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Sleeves has very conservative instincts and I doubt he really has the ability to read defenses at a top level. But who knows, maybe after 5 years, the light’s gone on and he’ll all of a sudden be a good QB. I like the sample size of 60 games of mediocrity over the 10 or so good ones.

  146. 146 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    there is a long line of “experts” that had a lot of bad to say about sammy boy.. ESP’s anti signing bradford hot takes were priceless…. Don’t really understand it because I thought he showed plenty of signs last year that hinted to him looking good this year, mainly last year he showed pocket toughness that was really surprising to see from a guy coming off two years worth of knee injuries.. It was almost shocking how he was willing to stand in the pocket, hold on to the ball while a defender closing in on him for a big hit, giving the WR a chance to get open, taking some big hits while still delivering an accurate ball
    That alone should have told us that if he was finally going to enjoy some good health continuity, he was going to look good this year…. Problem is for some reason people hate SAM so much that they overlook the obvious…

  147. 147 GermanEagle said at 4:04 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    But but…his last 7 games… *smh

  148. 148 GermanEagle said at 3:25 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Any trades before the deadline?

  149. 149 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:53 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Only the obvious joe Thomas/Mykal kendricks trade…

  150. 150 GermanEagle said at 4:02 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Ha! That’s a shot to the head (=no brainer).

  151. 151 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I hope lane was watching the game sunday on his knees, with his shirt off just whipping himself on the back throughout the entire game, while he weeps in shame watching our goldenboy get massacred., what’s that called? Self flogging? Or self flagellation? Something like that..
    Hope he put all the blame on himself, while weeping and wimperimg in his best Terrell Owens impersonation… “That’s my Quarterback” as Kerrigan Tees off on Wentz.
    i hate Lane right now…,

  152. 152 GermanEagle said at 4:07 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    “I hate Lane right now”

    *shouting to the tune of Kelis.

  153. 153 The original AG said at 6:08 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    The whole line was horrid yesterday.

  154. 154 meteorologist said at 4:44 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Check out @fduffy3’s Tweet:

  155. 155 GermanEagle said at 5:10 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Oh boy.

    Cannot wait for the rematch in Philly though. Eagles will shut down the run next time.

  156. 156 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:56 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Some lack of effort there. Lots of jogging expecting the next guy to make the tackle

  157. 157 Crus57 said at 7:05 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Not good viewing. But did Washington get called for a chop block? ‘cos Hicks #58 gets engaged high and low at the same time in the third and final part of that clip.

  158. 158 GermanEagle said at 5:25 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Did you know?!

    That Aaron Rodgers has been dead last in the NFL in terms of yards / attempt since week 8 of last season. That is truly mind blowing….

  159. 159 ChoTime said at 11:27 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’m not ready for him to suck yet, I kinda like ARod.

  160. 160 GermanEagle said at 5:29 PM on October 18th, 2016:


    Sammy Sleeves has the second best QB Rating in the NFL (@109.8)..


  161. 161 John Galt said at 7:40 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Amazing you can have a 109.8 QB rating and the 30th ranked offense (in terms of yds). I guess they really aren’t asking him to do a whole lot.

  162. 162 anon said at 7:59 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Same could be said about our current qb.

  163. 163 Mitchell said at 8:24 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Ones a rookie and ones a 6? Year vet.

  164. 164 anon said at 8:37 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    who started 2 weeks after showing up.

  165. 165 Insomniac said at 9:06 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Not sure if it’s all that different from the game plan with Teddy. The Vikings has been a ball control offense that relied on their defense for years.

  166. 166 Mitchell said at 11:48 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Wentz started the first game…

  167. 167 anon said at 2:46 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    sammy sleeves started 2 weeks after showing up. no picks in 4 games in an offense he’s learned for 5 weeks is pretty fucking amazing, especially when throwing to the guys on that team.

  168. 168 Mitchell said at 8:51 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    He’s been protected by a fantastic defense and while I cant argue that what he is doing is great, who does Wentz have to throw to? Wentz has 200 more yards with 1 more td and a single int on a play to end the game. They are stastically one of the least productive offenses probably because he got there late.

  169. 169 GermanEagle said at 8:07 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Yeah I know. #Last12Games.

  170. 170 ChoTime said at 11:27 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    His adjusted yards/attempt is 8.9, whereas last year it was 6.5.

    8.9 is higher than the career AY/A of all but 1 QB in the history of the NFL. Part of this is he has yet to throw an interception, which we all know will happen eventually.

    He is throwing for 247 yards/game, which is more than any other year of his career except for last year (266). This ranks him at 21st in the league. Incidentally, Wentz is at 23rd in the league.

    Sleeves is on a nice roll. It ends Sunday.

  171. 171 unhinged said at 5:35 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I’ve been an Eagles fan long enough to know that a dominant running game has not been part of its offensive arsenal since forever. When I see our DL get handled like they just did, and when I see Dak Prescott go untouched when he drops back in a passing stance, I’m becoming more convinced that deep investment in a physical, smash-mouth, power-rooted OL is more QB friendly than skilled pass protectors who are more athletic than strong. When Scot McCloughan arrived in DC before last season, he said his first order of business was to make the Redskins tougher, and he went out and took Brandon Scherff, a guard, in the first round at no.6 overall. The TV experts were pretty much in agreement that he overpaid, but McCloughan said he didn’t care because that was a player they wanted, and he wouldn’t be around for round 2. That is an OL that also has a first-round LT in Trent Williams. Both of those guys are among the best at their respective positions, and both are very strong and physical run blockers.
    Meanwhile, Dallas, where the Joneses have been endeavoring to return to the glorious ’90’s, has invested 3 first round picks on 3 of their starting OL, and they are aggregately more effective run blockers than pass protectors. And yet, their rookie QB could drop back and, one imagines, text Bill Callahan and go untouched. Dallas was also criticized for moving up to take center Travis Frederick earlier than needed, but he was a cog in the famed Wisconsin running machine, and the guy that Dallas wanted. Frederick may be slower than a slug, but he is also very strong and not easy to move.
    I think the best thing HR can do for Wentz is build an OL that keeps 8 defenders in the box, because that seems to be working really well for Dak Prescott. Kirk Cousins shredded us sunday because Kelly and the other guy were running through huge holes. The OL for the Eagles has been neglected, and they are paying for that. I hope that changes soon. If they can devise a way to get a franchise QB, a scary, physical OL should not be too difficult.

  172. 172 The original AG said at 6:06 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I agree. I think we are really feeling the effects of Chip taking one OL in three years. That’s absurd. I think Roseman will start that process of getting a stellar OL, but it’s going to take a couple drafts (not to mention the skill position players at WR & CB).

  173. 173 Blackfoot said at 8:43 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    he let more go then he added even

  174. 174 anon said at 2:45 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    we took like 5ol this year – none with high picks, before kelly was gm we drafted danny watkins and a bunch of other scrubs.

    WAS and DAL also have great OL coaches…

  175. 175 The original AG said at 6:44 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Well at least one of our lineman is flashing talent this week. All jokes aside, this is great stuff.


  176. 176 BlindChow said at 6:56 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    He is pretty much the only person to not let this team down yet…

  177. 177 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:59 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Now im expecting a bad snap on a FG or extra point this week

  178. 178 Blackfoot said at 8:43 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    great, but why can’t he make all the flags disappear?

  179. 179 Blackfoot said at 8:41 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    no worries.
    remember we were 3-5 in chips first year and came back to win the division!
    of course, we had Djax, and McCoy then, but we also had Vick and Foles, so… we are better off now, but worse. so never mind

  180. 180 anon said at 9:09 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    and bradley fletcher and cary williams – remember how bad that secondary was?

  181. 181 Insomniac said at 9:19 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Well…the CBs are still bad.

  182. 182 A_T_G said at 9:22 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    I never thought I would be posting an Ellen tweet, but alas, it has come to this.

  183. 183 anon said at 2:42 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    he’s doing a good job transitioning out of football.

  184. 184 Insomniac said at 10:36 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Am I the only one that thinks that we can outscore the Vikings?

  185. 185 BlindChow said at 11:47 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Nope, apparently the Vikings are last in total offense. If we get out to the lead, it should be hard for them to keep up.

    On the other hand, remember that one year we let Matt Cassel and whoever their no-name RB was (Adrian Peterson was out) completely own us…

  186. 186 anon said at 2:42 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    matt asiata had like 3 goal line tds.

  187. 187 ChoTime said at 11:51 PM on October 18th, 2016:

    Hm. According to Football Outsiders, the Eagles have the hardest remaining schedule. No one else’s is even close.

  188. 188 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 12:17 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    What if we actually suck

  189. 189 BobSmith77 said at 12:42 AM on October 19th, 2016:

    Watching the game replay, it is only a matter of time of when, not if, Wentz goes out with an injury if he takes this amount of sacks/hits (5 sacks/11 hits = 16 total) on a weekly basis.

    Browns – 2/9 (11 total)
    Bears – 2/3 (5 total)
    Steelers – 0/3 (3 total)
    Lions – 3/8 (11 total)