Get the Huff Out of Here

Posted: November 3rd, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 237 Comments »

That escalated in a hurry.

Yesterday Josh Huff was still slated to play this week. Things changes on Thursday.


My guess is that Eagles management saw Huff was in serious legal trouble and was a disposable player. With media and public pressure building for some action, they decided to cut him and move on. There is some wisdom in that, if that’s what actually happened.

It sounds like Huff was really shaken up by his release.

This move also serves as a message to the team: No More.

Guys have to quit doing dumb things. No one has been involved in a shooting or domestic violence incident, but you would rather nip the bad behavior in the bud ahead of time rather than keeping an open environment that brings out the worst in some players. Sometimes it is good for players to be scared of management. While they should be independent adults, they are young, rich athletes that are not used to being held accountable for all their mistakes. Some guys don’t abuse that, but other players develop bad habits.

Fringe players now know that off-field mistakes could cost them their jobs. That can help you make the right decision in some cases. We’ll have to wait and see how the team reacts to Huff’s release on Sunday.


No one has been added to the roster yet. With only 4 wideouts on there, you would think the Eagles would go for another WR. They could add Paul Turner from the practice squad. They liked him quite a bit this summer.

The Eagles could also look for the best WR on the street. Obviously there won’t be great choices.

Hopefully Bryce Treggs will be active on Sunday and will play. I just want to see the guy in action. If he’s terrible, that’s okay. At least we know what he is. Treggs has speed. That’s something the offense could use.

Don’t look for Treggs to come in and magically light it up. That kind of stuff is very rare. Coaches see these guys practice very week. They weren’t impressed enough by Treggs to use him in games. That said, some guys are gamers and don’t really come alive until they are in a game.

As for STs, Wendell Smallwood will likely take over as the primary KOR. A WR or DB will likely get the other STs snaps.


Yes he has.

Hicks is starting to make plays, which is something the Eagles need. He did a terrific job of that last year, but was quiet for a few weeks. Hicks is still adjusting to the new scheme. He looks like he has figured some things out and will be a force down the stretch.


The news on Barbre isn’t surprising.

I was hoping Logan would play, but there isn’t a need to rush him back. The Giants are 31st in rushing attempts and dead last in rushing yards. If they want to throw the ball a lot, the Eagles can use DEs on the inside to rest their DTs.


237 Comments on “Get the Huff Out of Here”

  1. 1 Dan in Philly said at 11:19 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Coaches and management need to walk the line between helping their players to succeed and expecting them to help themselves. Hopefully all other Eagles players are brushing up on the gun and drug laws in their states.

    I’m generally pro gun, but if you’re going to have one, know that where you are can change how you’ll be dealt with. At some point you have to accept responsibility for your actions, and I always liked Huff but he’s in for some hard times ahead. Hope things turn out well for him.

  2. 2 Tumtum said at 12:12 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Hate to say it, if guys are dumb enough to do what Huff was doing, seeing the consequences is unlikely to affect them.

  3. 3 BobSmith77 said at 12:45 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    The bigger issue too is that he likely brought the gun into the Eagles’ practice facility even though Huff said he didn’t.

    That is a huge no-no and my bet why the Eagles decided to cut Huff today. They thought he was still not telling them the entire truth. Also wanted to possibly send a message to the rest of the NFL that the Eagles aren’t turning in a franchise that has frequent off-field issues with its players.

  4. 4 Buge Halls said at 9:19 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    He more than likely had it in his car, but might not have brought it into the facility.

  5. 5 bill said at 9:25 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    The NFL policy I saw posted somewhere defined the parking lot as part of the facility. That’s why Huff claims he stopped somewhere else to retrieve it.

  6. 6 RobNE said at 12:14 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    that still counts.

  7. 7 Get the Huff Out of Here - said at 11:26 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor That escalated in a hurry. Yesterday Josh Huff was still slated to play this week. Things changes […]

  8. 8 Greg Tulino said at 11:34 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    I sincerely hope Huff learns from his mistakes and gets a chance to play again in this league. I am 100% onboard with his release and using this “Fringe” player to send a message that these types of incidents are unacceptable as a member of the Eagles.

  9. 9 Ark87 said at 11:56 PM on November 3rd, 2016:

    Well, watching a kid’s life fall apart…forget about the team and the message it sends, it’s truly trivial and unlikely to have a long term impact. Hope the kid can get out of this with his freedom and get another crack at his dream as a wiser man. Best of luck Josh.

  10. 10 Bert's Bells said at 11:58 PM on November 3rd, 2016:


  11. 11 Tumtum said at 12:08 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I do feel bad for the guy, though I will say I have no idea what his character is. At the same time I will never underatand how guys with so much to lose can be so careless.

    As far as cutting him goes I truly feel it is a gutless move by the org. If he is truely a good guy you stand by him. They saw what happened with Josh Brown and bailed ASAP. As of today, I think he is our most talented skill position player.

    Either he ia a bad dude, and I am wrong about being gutless to cut him, or he is a good dude and they are. Anyway you slice it, this sucks.

  12. 12 Tumtum said at 12:19 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    “Richard Sherman says NFL “isn’t fun anymore,” blames Goodell”.

    Hate the guy but agree with everything he says that PFT posted. Though I will say the biggest blame for a decline is the lack of sexy competition. Hopefully what happened last Sunday night can develope into a marquee match up 2x a year.

  13. 13 Rellihcs said at 7:28 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I see it more as a problem with Sherman and his own head. The NFL has lots of problems, but it’s still fun for fans.

  14. 14 deshawnbentley said at 9:17 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Everything Sherman said was spot on in my opinion. How can you penalize player celebrations because apparently it’s “bad sportsmanship” and sets a bad example for the youth yet have bud light as one of your major sponsors? You’re telling me a 10 second dance is worse than 30 seconds of a beer advertisement…

    Honestly player celebrations do add excitement and appeal to the game. How many kids in youth football do you see emulating Cam, Gronk. Shady etc. these players are fun because they play with emotion and it shows.

    It makes no sense to penalize Antonio brown for twerking when they show 30 second segments of 20 cheerleaders basically doing the same thing… The hypocrisy is real

    Let these players have fun

  15. 15 Tumtum said at 1:03 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I miss the T.O dancing with Cheerleaders, Joe Horn literally getting on the horn, Chad WhateverIamToday doing whatever it was he was going to do.

    Not only that, who are the great QBs that draw you in anymore? NO is awful outside of Brees which makes him not worth watching. Rodgers is kinda meh these days. Tom Brady is a beast, and that is about the only exciting QB anymore. Cam doesn’t do it for me. Russel is pretty boring. Somehow they manage to make the team around Luck worse every year.

  16. 16 Dominik said at 9:55 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    The celebration penalties are nuts. Maybe the worst rule change ever (even though it mostly doesn’t have a huge impact on the games). We benefitted from it against the Vikings (who knows how that KOR from Smallwood goes if it starts 15 Yards deeper and who knows if we win this game without that TD), but even then I thought: you idiotic babbitts. I actually felt a little bad for the Vikings. That should have never, ever been a penalty. Period. But especially a penalty that equals a brutal shot to the head when it comes to penalty yards.

    There is taunting. Sometimes. Sometimes it’s only trash talk and that’s totally fine with me, part of the game. But if there is taunting, punish it. But let the players celebrate their TDs, for crying out loud. Those are emotions and without emotions, sports is indeed not much fun.

  17. 17 Tumtum said at 12:59 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I disagree. I am far less invested in the entire league than I used to be. Sure I watched Patriots/Steelers even without Ben, very intently. I watched Cowboys Bengals to see how good the boys really were. I watched Chip in his prime-time game. Nothing else outside of our games is really catching my interest.

    Thursday Night Football has been probably the biggest detractor to my interest. Football is no longer a special weekly event. I can turn the TV on almost any time and watch it. Just takes away from the allure.

  18. 18 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:38 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I agree even if he’s being hypocritical. He wasnt complaining when he and Earl Thomas mugged Julio Jones on an obvious PI to beat ATL. Guy opens his mouth when things dont go his team’s way. Didnt complain about that fail mary either.

    Still, he’s on too something.

  19. 19 Tumtum said at 12:47 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Oh ok, let me amend that. I agree with everything he said about the ratings of NFL games. The penalties thing just makes him a cry baby.

    Everyone who ever played sports knows you bitch and moan about the refs among team mates. The second it goes beyond that you are a cry baby loser.

  20. 20 BobSmith77 said at 12:41 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    So they turned tail and cut him after just yesterday appearing they would stick behind him.

    This wasn’t handled as poorly as the Sixers handled the multiple Okafor incidents last year including no comments from anyone in the front office for several days following the Boston fighting incident.

    Still wasn’t handled well including leaving Pederson out on an island for the more than the first 24 hours after the incident occurred & with egg on his face saying he planned to start Huff this weekend. Made Pederson look a bit foolish in the process and their organizational decision-making process as a bit disjointed between the coach & front office.

    This was something that Roseman or even Lurie needed to say a bit something more than the token PR comments that Roseman made today to the media.

  21. 21 CrackSammich said at 12:44 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Egg on face or not, he did exactly what he was supposed to do–support your employee until such a time that you are told you are no longer required to. I think you’re reading into things that don’t need to be read into.

  22. 22 BobSmith77 said at 12:47 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    He did but management could have been a bit more supportive. Pederson didn’t come off particularly well as a result which isn’t something they should be doing to a rookie head coach.

  23. 23 Anders said at 3:26 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I disagree. Pederson 100% knew they might cut Huff depending on what internal research showed about the incident.
    Reason they cut Huff, but cant say is that they found so much dirt that Huff is in serious trouble.

  24. 24 Rellihcs said at 7:26 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Agree fully.

  25. 25 BobSmith77 said at 12:55 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    What additional ‘dirt’ could have found beyond the fact they didn’t believe Huff about not bringing the gun into the NovaCare facility?

  26. 26 Rellihcs said at 7:27 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    How would they be a bit more supportive? Give an example of what that would look like?

    “Hey media, we want to cut Josh because he’s going to jail and it’s the right thing to do for multiple reasons, but we support Doug so we aren’t cutting Josh”?

  27. 27 BobSmith77 said at 12:56 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    They simply could have spoken to the media including Riseman or Lurie sooner.

  28. 28 Rellihcs said at 7:25 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Sounds to me like the media played you. This whole “doug v howie” thing is media drivel. Howie did what any and all coaches do. Anybody that takes any comment from an NFL head coach to the media as set in stone, has been foolishly blind to history and evidence.

  29. 29 bill said at 8:20 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    You don’t want to, ahem, go off half-cocked on an important issue like this. You publicly announce you’re staying the course. In the meantime, you do your due diligence. Once you have the information you need (or at least as much as you’re currently going to get), you make your decision and prepare to defend it. There is no perfect answer – just bad and less bad.

    Based upon what I know right now, I have no problem with the decision they made. And I’m saying that as someone who has rooted hard for Huff, given his life story. I’m still rooting for him.

  30. 30 BlindChow said at 12:44 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Fringe players now know that off-field mistakes could cost them their jobs.

    So how much longer do we have to wait for on-field mistakes to start costing jobs?

  31. 31 BobSmith77 said at 12:49 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Cutting players for on-field stuff should almost never be used. The one exception I can think of in the past few years is that Miles Austin should have been shit canned after the Dolphins’ game last year by Monday morning.

    Only real example I can think of the last few years based upon his on-field effort for a critical play & his comments afterwards.

  32. 32 BlindChow said at 12:52 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Well, “costing jobs” could also mean being benched for lack of effort. (Quitting on routes, taking a dive instead of forcing the other team to tackle you, etc…)

  33. 33 eagleyankfan said at 8:13 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Last week “I think Pederson genuinely believes the current Eagles can get the job done. Jordan Matthews is a good player. Josh Huff is a good role player.”….this week…”fringe player” and “disposable”……which way is the wind blowing?

  34. 34 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 8:38 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    “good role player” isn’t far from “fringe” on a roster with 5 spots for WRs

  35. 35 eagleyankfan said at 10:30 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    then, all the Eagles wr’s are fringe players? (but that still isn’t the point I was trying to make…)

  36. 36 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 3:01 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    The one who plays the least, yes.

  37. 37 CrackSammich said at 12:49 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    ACViking made an argument yesterday that the front office failed with their reaction this incident when compared to their reaction to Cooper’s loose lips. I didn’t and won’t voice an opinion on that one. What I will say is that it’s a much more even and pertinent comparison to their reaction to NIgel Bradham’s recent stupidity. I’d love a reporter to stick a microphone in the face of any higher up and ask what the difference was, and if it was, as Tommy put it, a message of “No More.”

  38. 38 ChoTime said at 2:18 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Seems likely they cut Huff because 1) he’s expendable and 2) he’s going to jail anyway. In other words, if this is a message, it’s a very cheap one and therefore can hardly be effective as a warning.
    [If you aren’t that good, and are going to jail so we can’t use you, and you break a team rule, we’re going to cut you, we’re not going to put up with that! {but if you are a valuable contributor and aren’t going to jail, let’s see what we can work out}]

  39. 39 Caveman_Bob said at 2:40 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I agree that Bradham is a very interesting comparison. To speculate, the team might believe that Huff also brought the gun to the Eagles facility, and lied about it – i.e. he betrayed the organisation twice. That might be enough to explain the difference.

    However, sticking to what we know, some factors that might be relevant in the different punishments:
    (1) Huff’s was a more serious gun charge than Bradham’s (even if only because of the jurisdiction), and he’s facing jail time
    (2) it was compounded by other serious charges such as DUI (although Bradham also has the assault charge)
    (3) Huff had the benefit of “notice” from the Bradham incident – ie Bradham’s incident put the whole team on notice, so this is an extra level of ignorance/stupidity

    Personally, I think (3) is a perfectly legitimate reason. Some people might argue that if one person (Bradham) gets a second chance, everyone else should, too, and its unfair to treat them differently just because one incident happened before the other. However, I think this difference is important – especially if, say, (speculating again) the organisation read the riot act to the team after the Bradham incident.

  40. 40 robspassky said at 8:24 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Keep in mind, too, that the Eagles specifically held educational sessions on the different gun laws in New Jersey, just to prevent something like this from occurring. (“One veteran Eagle said the security staff goes over gun laws in great detail every year, with particular attention paid to New Jersey.”)

    Maybe if they are 6-1 and look great on the field, this doesn’t happen. But discipline and focus on the field have been an issue and perhaps stem from a lack of same in the locker room.

  41. 41 Rellihcs said at 7:23 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Bradham didn’t endanger people’s lives. Huff broke more laws than Bradham did, and was endangering human beings lives. More comparable than the cooper case – sure – but that still doesn’t mean it’s a good comparison. I’d put Bradham’s (collective) case at a 3-6 on the 1-10 scale, but Huff at a 5-8.

  42. 42 CrackSammich said at 2:22 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    “Bradham didn’t endanger people’s lives”

    …He’s been charged with assault. That’s… endangering someone’s life.

  43. 43 Rellihcs said at 2:28 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Not necessarily. That’s a stretch. Assault is not necessarily life-threatening at all. Speeding, potentially under the influence, is much more dangerous.

    That’s a weak false equivalency.

  44. 44 CrackSammich said at 9:35 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    If you insist. One intentionally attacked someone and you’re claiming the one that didn’t did.

  45. 45 Buge Halls said at 9:24 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    The biggest point Huff vs Cooper scenario is Cooper didn’t break a law (being a moron isn’t illegal) and he wasn’t looking at a possible sentence of 2.5 years in jail.

  46. 46 bsuperfi said at 11:07 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I’m pretty convinced the moons have just aligned for Huff. He committed a crime, unlike Cooper. Its the latest in a string of behavior the team wants to suppress–Huff was just unlucky this comes after Cooper and Bradham. And Huffs adds value but is by no means irreplaceable, especially after we saw Smallwood on kr duties.

    It might not be nice or supportive to Huff as an individual, but it makes perfect sense from the team perspective. Knowing how the league works is part of a players success over the long haul.

  47. 47 Arthur Hummler said at 1:05 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Eagles lead the NFL in drops, promote Turner at the very least he’s sure handed!

  48. 48 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 1:15 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Then Pederson would have to sit one of his 4RBs. Cant do that…

  49. 49 Kevin said at 6:26 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Maybe he can catch, but if he can’t get separation from starting NFL talent, what good are his hands if the ball never gets to them?

  50. 50 BlindChow said at 6:46 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Man you people are obsessed with “separation.”

    The great receivers aren’t great because they can run fast. If that were true, Givens would still be on an NFL roster. The great ones are great because they can catch the ball even when they’re covered.

  51. 51 Anders said at 6:55 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    The great receivers are also great because they run great routes.
    Some WRs like Antonie Brown just combines all 3. Some Like Boldin combines great routes with great hands.

  52. 52 Kevin said at 7:15 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Yeah, I’m not talking about speed. I’m talking about route running. I’m talking about beating the coverage on short and medium routes too. None of our receivers catch the ball well. Matthews is the best route runner, thus why he makes the most catches despite having bad hands. He gets separation, which the QB can also see and know to target you.

  53. 53 BlindChow said at 7:28 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    It baffles me that route running apparently can’t be taught, like it’s some sort of innate ability a person either has or doesn’t. I don’t buy it. I think there’s got to be a WR coach out there who can actually teach a receiver how to run to keep CB’s from knowing where they are going. I mean, these aren’t unathletic people…

  54. 54 Anders said at 7:39 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Like all things its talent, but of course it can be taught, but not all guys will be great at it like Antonie Brown or Maclin.

    I also think that for some guys, the need to run good routes even in college is not needed because they are just faster and bigger.

  55. 55 bill said at 8:14 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Some of it is innate, as running a great route is similar to a RB making a cutback – no matter how much I ever practiced, I was never going to be able to do what Shady (did? does?). Part of being a great route runner requires the same type of agility.

    But a large part of it is just attention to detail, IMO. And for whatever reasons, attention to detail just doesn’t come naturally to those who have NFL measurables for the position. And sure, age and maturity factor into it, too.

    It’s similar to how outside shooting really languished in the NBA for years, I think – you don’t make Sportscenter or get the school talking about you for running great routes, but that one handed catch or that time you sprinted past the CB?

  56. 56 Rellihcs said at 7:19 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Turner is tiny. Name a WR his size that has done more than shine against 4th stringers in preseason, who doesn’t excel in speed.

  57. 57 BlindChow said at 7:32 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Uh, Beasley? Edelman? I mean, how small is he?

  58. 58 Rellihcs said at 7:45 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Those two have quickness. Turner isn’t really fast or quick. And those two are more accomplished route runner.

    Sure you are correct about not needing separation all the time.

  59. 59 BlindChow said at 10:01 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Maybe Turner will end up being The New Prototype™…

  60. 60 Insomniac said at 8:33 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Turner isn’t actually that small according to his listing?

    Roughly 5’10 or 5’11 and 190 pounds, which is pretty much the baseline for an average size WR.

  61. 61 Insomniac said at 8:26 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Jarvis Landry

  62. 62 Buge Halls said at 9:28 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I’ll throw a few more at you: T.Y. Hilton, Golden Tate, Steve Smith Sr, Randall Cobb – all under 5′ 10″

  63. 63 anon said at 10:54 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    if a coach can’t scheme a guy open he shouldn’t be coaching.

  64. 64 Jernst said at 12:03 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    How much speed do you need to create separation on WR screens and 5 yard curls against zone coverage? ‘Cause that’s been the majority of routes Huff ran this year.

  65. 65 Arthur Hummler said at 12:37 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Ok……Jason Avant never caught any balls

  66. 66 CrackSammich said at 2:30 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    This board will lose their damn minds the first time Turner drops a pass.

  67. 67 Corry said at 7:46 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I don’t know about losing our minds as much as making many snarky, sarcastic comments about joining the rest of the wide receiver corps.

  68. 68 Bert's Bells said at 10:36 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Man, it is going to be hilarious on here!

  69. 69 ChoTime said at 9:23 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Eagles’ backup receiver–most popular guy in town.

  70. 70 anon said at 10:53 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    almost as popular as the backup QB. this might be the first time where there are no secret fans on the backup – probably b/c we’ve all seen him play.

  71. 71 Aaron said at 10:22 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    and they will lose their minds when he makes his first catch

  72. 72 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:38 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    I don’t get the Turner hype…

  73. 73 Blackfoot said at 1:06 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    why would he drop one?

  74. 74 Gary Barnes said at 8:39 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I think the Eagles FO needs to re-think their policies on discipline.

    Overall, it appears Lurie has decided to let the NFL (Goodell) take the lead and have the Eagles stand back until something is decided. We saw no punishment for Cooper, either of Bradham’s incidents or the Agholor club dive. We saw avoidance on the whole Johnson affair until the league process ran its course.

    I understand why that might be politically smart for him as an owner and easier for the Eagles to sub out enforcement, but IMO it makes Lurie look like a stooge for a bad system and the Eagles look weak; they are not willing or able to make their own decisions effectively and have the courage of their convictions.

    What does being an Eagle mean? What values and standards does the organization uphold as important? What does the Eagles brand represent? To me, releasing Huff was the correct choice, but the Eagles seemed very indecisive and befuddled in handling it. Pederson within 24 hours had to engineer at total 180 pivot on the topic. Roseman was evasive and dismissive in his presser and we heard dead silence from Lurie.

    Obviously, each situation needs to be evaluated within its unique context aligned with the facts – not every player will be treated equally, I understand that. The issue is the Eagles need to figure out what is behind this recent rash of off the field incidents and what they can do to stop it. Then, if something else happens, they need to be prepared and handle it in a unified, disciplined and consistent manner. Do not leave it to Goodell to bail you out. Stand up and be counted.

  75. 75 Anders said at 8:45 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    “We saw no punishment for Cooper”

    The guy said nigger, not like he beat his wife (oh wait you only get a slap on hands for that) or brought a gun to the facility.

    Im not going to list all the reasons, but there can be a 1000 differences between the Huff case and Bradham’s. The Eagles own private detectives know so much more about what Huff has done/did and the Eagles cant say a word about it or else Huff can sue em for defamation.

    Remember Agholor wasnt even charged (there is a great chance he did it, but there is almost zero evidence he actual did it).

  76. 76 Gary Barnes said at 9:07 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    As I clearly said, “each situation needs to be evaluated within its unique context aligned with the facts”.

    I never said punishment is always the solution. The point is be prepared and have your shit together so you do not look like an inept organization.

    This is embarrassing for the Eagles and distracting for the team. We’ve had more incidents this season than I can remember during one under the Reid regime. Did we have better team leadership? Did we have better character players? Was the oversight stricter? Whatever it is, hopefully the Eagles figure it out soon.

  77. 77 kevinlied said at 9:28 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Some real issues with this response.

    1. You act like using that word, especially in the context he used it — saying “I’ll fight every n***** here” at a public, very white event — is definitively not as bad as bringing a gun to the facility (which nobody appears to have done). Maybe you don’t understand the history behind the word or the white supremacy that exists here to this day, but saying that, especially in the way he said it, is pretty damn bad. I would understand it if players would rather have seen Cooper cut than a hypothetical player who brought a gun to the facility (though, in this case, it seems like many of the black players rallied around Cooper). Frankly, I don’t think anybody but black Americans should ever use it, even when typing or saying a direct quote.

    2. Public figures like Huff rarely file defamation suits (and those that are filed rarely advance past the motion to dismiss stage) because, to succeed, the public figure must prove that a statement was false and made with reckless disregard for the truth. So, no, Huff can’t just “sue em for defamation” if the Eagles were to leak details about the incident. The reason the Eagles don’t leak such details is because doing so would serve no purpose other than to make them look like a bunch of shit bags.

    3. Precisely why do you think there’s a “great chance” that Agholor did “it,” and what do you think “it” is? The DA’s office declined to prosecute him for anything — and in fairly short order.

  78. 78 Anders said at 9:47 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    I know the american history and I know the word nigga is not a good word (seriously, it is legal to write).

    Are white supremacies bad? 100% yes, but Riley Cooper saying the word nigga has zero to do with them.

    Regarding Agholor, rape is one of the hardest crimes to get a conviction (lets alone get a DA to run the case because said DA does not want a lost rape case on his resume) because there is often a lack of evidence (victims often destroy it un-intentionally) and because the police and DA’s often make the rape victim feel like she did anything wrong.
    If a women was either drunk, works in a position like been a stripper or knew the assaliant (like they had sex before), its almost guaranteed the case will amount to nothing because its just the victims own fault.
    So if you wanna point out America’s bad history of slavery, also remembers men’s long history of abusing and neglecting women (I mean black males was allowed to vote before any women).

  79. 79 kevinlied said at 9:58 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    It’s legal to write it, just not appropriate (IMO). I wholeheartedly disagree that Cooper, or anybody, using that word has nothing to do with white supremacy. The problem is that a much broader swath of white society than avowed Neo-Nazis and Klan members promotes white supremacy through their conduct and words. See generally the Trump campaign and its many supporters who believe they are not racist. When that word comes tumbling out of your drunk-ass mouth (Riley’s, not yours), in indicates what you think about black people.

    As for Agholor, I agree that rape and sexual assault are under-reported and under-prosecuted. Those general trends have no bearing on what Agholor did or didn’t do on one particular occasion.

  80. 80 Anders said at 10:02 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    My point about Agholor was more a general statement about rape cases than Agholor’s case in it self.

  81. 81 Bert's Bells said at 10:35 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Actually, it’s a violation of federal employment law to say anything that could prevent a former employee from getting work. So it is possible to sue a club for the equivalent of defamation.

    Would that happen? Probably not. But it’s not impossible.

  82. 82 kevinlied said at 12:06 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    That’s not the equivalent of defamation. Defamation sounds in saying falsehoods that damage one’s reputation. If there’s no falsehood, there is no defamation.

  83. 83 Bert's Bells said at 4:21 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    True it’s not a 1:1 equivalent, but I thought the point was clear. A former employee can take legal action against an employer if they make statements that prevent them from getting new work.

  84. 84 Sean Stott said at 1:15 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    A word is not as bad as bringing a gun to the workplace. You gotta be kidding me.

  85. 85 kevinlied said at 1:26 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    There are workplaces in this country where you could bring a firearm. Many of those workplaces, I presume, would not welcome people who toss around the N-word.

  86. 86 The original AG said at 10:02 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    #1 -> either anyone uses it or no one uses it. I hate this thing about black people “owning” the word. It’s insulting. I can’t imagine if this was even 20 years ago and older black people being okay with how it’s being used. Heck, I doubt many of them today do.

    I stand on the side of no one uses it. If I sound angry, it’s not directed towards you. I think about the ESPN show where Steven A Smith (btw don’t like him), Common (who now has changed my view of him), Michael Wilbon (don’t like him either) all sat on the side of it’s okay to use the word, and we make it sexy, blah blah blah. Jason Whitlock is the only one who actually had any sense in the situation.

    The word is ugly and it’s part of an ugly past. Owning that word doesn’t make one powerful, but just as bad as those who used it previously. I also hate that’s the word people want to use and then selectively tell others they can’t, which is the same segregation that the forefathers fought to end the use of the word.

    Ugh. Sorry. I hate fake intellectuals telling us how living black is (Michael Eric Dyson) and why this is okay, rather than looking at the history and the struggle and calling it what it is – acting “typical.”

    Sigh. These guys don’t understand that in the real world where things matter and impressions matter a lot, that most people when they see black people using the n-word see us as: that’s what they were, that’s what they are now, and that’s what they’ll always be, because look they are using the word now.

    Few things get my blood to boil as this subject.

  87. 87 kevinlied said at 10:39 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Hey, if black people choose not to use the word, cool. But if someone, as many have, takes the position that it’s okay to use the word because he/she is taking ownership of the language of oppression, I have no right to argue to the contrary.

  88. 88 The original AG said at 4:40 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    I get it. But being black I have no problem telling other black people not to use the word around me or that I think they’re wrong. But then again, my position is a bit different.

  89. 89 kevinlied said at 4:47 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Totally respect that. It seems to me that both positions are valid. I just don’t think that non-black people should onset themselves into the debate.

  90. 90 Rambo said at 10:14 AM on November 4th, 2016:

  91. 91 Dave said at 11:28 AM on November 4th, 2016:


  92. 92 Rambo said at 11:38 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Thank you sir!

  93. 93 Blackfoot said at 1:04 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    dang he fast

  94. 94 Rambo said at 10:16 AM on November 4th, 2016:

  95. 95 Dave said at 11:18 AM on November 4th, 2016:

    Your links are down:(

    Great videos though!

  96. 96 Dave said at 11:26 AM on November 4th, 2016:


  97. 97 Dave said at 11:32 AM on November 4th, 2016:

  98. 98 D3FB said at 12:37 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    CB is 5’9 ran 4.62, unemployed.

  99. 99 Rambo said at 12:52 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I couldn’t care less really. Just posting the videos for those that want to see some of his highlights.

  100. 100 Dave said at 1:14 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Jalen Mills ran a 4.61, employed as starter.

  101. 101 anon said at 2:10 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    It’s not like the CB was “beat” on that play

  102. 102 Cafone said at 10:06 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Yeah, but Wentz doesn’t need him to be open. He will fire it in where only his receiver can catch it. He just needs receivers who make the catch.

  103. 103 RobNE said at 12:21 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I think the most logical explanation is that the Eagles know Huff lied about not bringing the gun to the facility (even the parking lot counts), and it’s the lie as much as the incident that moved them to cut him.

    I appreciate his backstory and hope he lands somewhere (and avoids jail time).

  104. 104 Julescat said at 12:34 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I just hope he spends time clearing his head and gets his life together.

  105. 105 bdbd20 said at 1:44 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I get that sense too. If he just admitted the truth, I do wonder if the team would have just suspended him and brought him back next season.

  106. 106 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:21 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I don’t know what happened Obviously, but Seilski claims a big part of huff getting cut is that Josh lied to HOWIE and the Eagles claiming he didn’t bring his gun to Novacare which is against NFL rules. Problem with Huffs story is that There are cameras everywhere at Novacare so they easily found out exactly what time he left Novacare and deduced that the time of the police report showed that he Probably had the gun with him at Novare and that it was highly unlikely he would have had time to leave novacare, pick up his gun if it was somewhere else and then get arrested because I guess there was a very short time between when he left Novacare and when he got arrested so apparently it’s extremely likely that he had the gun with him at novacare…
    BIG MISTAKE!,IMO when you epically fuck something up, the last thing you want to do is compound it with lIes. He should have been a man, and showed the eagles, his family or whoever he is asking for forgiveness, the respect of telling them the entire truth, throw himself of the “mercy of the court(HOWIE)” and hope they forgive him…. The Eagles were the ones who had to deal with the position he put them in, so he should have had enough respect to tell them the entire truth..
    I also heard some in the media speculate that the Eagles were feeling pressure from their corporate sponsors, no idea if there is any truth to that, or the extent of the “pressure”

  107. 107 RobNE said at 12:37 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Les just twittered that Eagles know Huff did NOT have his gun in the car and picked it up somewhere before the bridge. I thought what yuo thought too, but if Les is right then I guess not. Which brings me back to cutting the guy seems extreme.

  108. 108 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:15 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Weird… Seilski seemed to make a big deal yesterday about HOWIE saying they know Huff lied to them..
    Whatever the hell happened, hope we get some truthful clarity on this situation soon… I don’t think he should have been cut because he is facing plenty of consequences without us piling on, and young men deserve a second chance, and while Huff hasn’t lived up to his 3rd round pick, to my knowledge this his first serious mistake he made since becoming an eagle… If they didn’t drop the hammer on Bradham when he got in trouble the second time, than Huff should have been given a second chance Especially if it’s true that he hasn’t lied to them about it
    There are millions of people that have had guns legally and illegally that went there entire lives without hurting anyone, so its a crock of shit that some people are inserting Gun Violence into this debate, when gun violence has nothing to do with what happened and Huff has no history of it. huff is 100% wrong and should have to deal with the consequences without people making up extra issues.

  109. 109 Tumtum said at 1:07 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Ok that makes more sense to me.

  110. 110 anon said at 2:12 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Damn, so he left practiced smoked a j while riding back to NJ in the middle of the afternoon and got pulled over?

    Just wait until you get home!

  111. 111 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:22 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    The dumbest part is deciding to smoke in your car when you know you have like 50 grams of weed and a gun in the car. If you smoke it should mean that you have nothing else in the car that can get you in trouble, so you can swallow a lit joint if need be and have nothing else in the car that can get him in trouble
    To smoke pot when you know you are “riding dirty” is so ridiculously wreckless and stupid

  112. 112 Cafone said at 10:04 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    That’s the best time to smoke if you don’t want your wife to see you doing it.

  113. 113 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:57 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Allegedly, cutting huff has had a really negative effect in the locker room with playërs telling the media that yesterday was the worst day of practice they had this year, and playërs aren’t happy with the double standard forgiving Nigel but waiving Huff, and playërs are confused by where exactly is the line of the point of no return which Josh apparently crossed
    HOWIE also made the HEADCoach look like a powerless fool. Either Pederson said the wrong things on his own, or the Eagles PR team didn’t properly prepare Doug for that press Confrence where he said Huff would play sunday… Hopefully Pederson is smart enough to do some public damage control telling the media that they learned of some other factors that they had to take serious AFTER Doug told the media huff WOULDNT be cut.
    This is very troublesome for me… Since the summer I been ranting and raving about what we would do to the Giants this year but I’m starting to worry this week. How can I not worry hearing things like “yesterday was the worst practice they had all year”? I worry about the state of the players going into this game, and if we win sunday the coaches, veterans and captains are to be praised for managing to navigate such a tough situation and still keep the team United and focused enough to win an important game on Sunday…
    9/10 times our front 7 should beat the breaks off of marshall Newhouse/Baetty, jon jerry, westen Richburg, Justin PUGH and Eric Flowers who we have been dominating for years. If that doesn’t happen again on Sunday, then I’ll be very worried about the state of our locker room… it’s bad enough we lost a pro bowl gunner/KR and while Huff ISNT a big part of the offense, WR is the last position we could afford to get weaker at… What already was an important game just became so much bigger because we really need a win bad to stop the negative momentum from the Huff situation because we damn sure can’t afford to let it get any worse.
    We are a nightmare matchup for the Giants, and we can’t to let them feel as tho they can play with us… Hopefully the coaches and veterans can get this team focused enough to handle our business and flex our muscles over this inferior rival and get out of NY with a win… Certainly can’t lose the same week that the Cowboys are facing the pathetic Browns

  114. 114 Sean Stott said at 1:11 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Counterargument – the media is drumming up controversy to get clicks, the locker room gets that Huff is destined for prison, and that’s that.

  115. 115 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:22 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    That would be great! I sure hope that this is just a media creation and that we see a focused team on Sunday ready to rip the Giants hearts out. Nothing would make me happier…. But seeing videos of guys like Jenkins, Barner and BG talk about this situatuon, it’s a concern.
    When Jenkins, a very respected veteran Captain tells the media that cutting huff has created a bigger distraction in the locker room than Huffs arrest, that’s a concern
    Huff has been cut, the Eagles won’t bring him back, so hopefully guys can compartamentalize, get focused and not bring this drama with them into Giant stadium…if we thought we desperately needed a win after the demoralizing dallas loss, the stakes are even higher now to stop all this negative momentum..

  116. 116 Sean Stott said at 1:53 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    These are pros. When a coworker gets fired for cause, you have to suck it up and continue to do your own job.

  117. 117 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:57 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    In theory…. But reality doesn’t always stick to the script.. I’d love to find out that you were right on Sunday

  118. 118 anon said at 2:09 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    How they come out will say a lot about how doug is able to motivate them.

  119. 119 SteveH said at 1:30 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I still don’t buy the Falcons, I just can’t see Matt Ryan as that guy who wins a super bowl.

    That being said, Julio Jones in his prime is a monster, and I wish we had a Julio Jones.

  120. 120 Dave said at 1:39 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Julio Jones would be a difference maker on any team. Matt Ryan would be pedestrian without Julio. All you need to do is throw it in the vicinity of him and he comes down with it, as Matt does over, and over, and over, again.

  121. 121 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:57 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I feel you. I don’t fear them, it’s a game I expect the Eagles to win.. I also expect us to beat the Giants twice this year, beat the Packers in Philly, beat the Ravens, and smack the Cowboys around at the lInc the last week of the season…. Bengals, washington, at Seattle (Tho our DL has a big advantage against that OL) are the games that concern me

  122. 122 anon said at 2:08 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Irks me to no end that we can’t beat the redskins.

  123. 123 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:03 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Yeah going into the season I viewed them as our toughest Rival, the Giants as our weakest rival with Dallas somewhere in between.
    I can’t stomach being swept by washington again this season. I want to see cousins get the beating of his life when he comes to philly but I need to see us beat the skins before I go into a matchup against them thumping my chest again. I want to beat them so bad this year. We łet them smack us around enough

  124. 124 Ankerstjernen said at 6:55 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    The skins might have ‘the best O-line in the league’ when they are all playing. The two games we have played against those two teams this year are good ways of showing that. If I were them, I would be even more pissed about the Dallas media hype, than we were back when we had Lane, Peters, a high performing Kelce and two pro bowl guards. I am scared of this rematch as well.

  125. 125 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Yeah I don’t Neccessarily know that the skins are the best team of our 3 Rivals, but they seem like the match up that gives us the most trouble.. On the flip side I think the Giants are our easiest rival, yet I think the way the Giants matchup with Dallas,can cause the Cowboys some problems..for example, the Giants OL can hang with the Dallas DL, where as their OL doesn’t stand a chance against our fronf 7
    Hopefully trent Williams 4 game suspension causes the skins to go on a 3 or 4 game losing streak

  126. 126 anon said at 2:09 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    They traded a draft for him – i’m sure lots of pundits hated it when it happened (and they bring that up every time he’s hurt) but he’s obviously a beast. If only they could find another tony gonzalez.

  127. 127 Tumtum said at 5:51 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I don’t feel great about that game. Not sure I feel bad, but don’t have a good feeling as of right now.

  128. 128 BobSmith77 said at 2:12 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I have a strong feeling that the winner of this Giants-Eagles game is going to the playoffs & the loser will be home in Jan.

  129. 129 ChoTime said at 3:23 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Not sure why would you feel the Giants would go to the playoffs if they manage the win? Is it because of the WAS tie?

  130. 130 BobSmith77 said at 4:49 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Go to 5-3 and have a fairly favorable schedule including vs Bears & Browns yet & Boys at home (played them tough there).

    If they win, I see them finishing at least 10-6 and winning one of the NFC wildcard spots.

  131. 131 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:50 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Those Wildcard spots looks like they are up for grabs this year

  132. 132 BobSmith77 said at 4:52 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    If the Eagles can take this game, I like their chances to grab one of them.

  133. 133 ChoTime said at 6:30 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    If they can go 5-3 twice in one season, they deserve the playoffs, I guess.

  134. 134 BobSmith77 said at 2:13 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Take it with a grain of salt but the Eagles have owned Eli at home:

    Per ESPN Stats & Info, Eli Manning is 1-8 in his last nine home
    starts against the Eagles, including playoffs, and 3-10 overall. Against
    the Giants’ other two NFC East nemeses, Manning is 11-6 at home .

  135. 135 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:26 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    He hasn’t beaten the Eagles in ANY Stadium since he beat The Matt Barkley led Eagles 3 Octobers ago…. The main reason for our 3 year winning streak is our DL dominates their OL, and these morons are lining up with the same exact OL we have been dominating for years while schwartz has us playing at a high level this season.
    The Giants OL is a matchup we can get pressure against only rushing 4 and when that happens schwartz defense is most difficult to beat… But Schwartz is finding out he has nice personnel to blitz with, and Eli Manning represents a stationary QB who can’t escape our blitz like Sam Bradford..
    We hit Braford 19 times, we should hand Eli a BEATDOWN of similar proportions, and the best thing about Eli is he thinks he can make every play so Whem the pressure is getting to him. He will foolishly throw up some rushed throws that often get intercepted. Bêtween the sacks we get, the intentional groundings or stupid passes Eli will throw up to be intercepted, and the Giats having the weakest run game in the NFL, the Giants should struggle to score 17 points at home against us on Sunday…. Eagles Domination of the Giants should continue sunday

  136. 136 BobSmith77 said at 2:35 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Pretty good recap and yeah I really like the Eagles this Sunday too.

    Things I’m most curious about is what type of rotation the Eagles will use at RB & just how much Schwartz is going to be wiling to blitz in the 1st half.

  137. 137 anon said at 2:54 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Giants OL is no bueno. I probably would try not to simply becuase giants have, by far, the best wr trio that we’ve played.

  138. 138 BobSmith77 said at 2:56 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Keeping Beckham in relative check is the only real concern to me. They might even give up 120 yards to him but I’d take that if they could keep him out of the end zone.

    I do see the Giants winning if Beckham has a big day and drop 150+ yds and at least 1 TD on the Eagles.

  139. 139 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:59 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I’d say the match ups that concern me the most are:
    1) Giants corners vs our WRs… Giants probably have the best corners in our division
    2) obviously their WRs against our corners, but that won’t matter much unless they finally figure out a way to block our DL
    3) I guess their DL’s run defense vs our OL is probably more of a concern than the Giants pass rush
    Other than that im comfortable with how we match up against this Giants team.
    Giants safeties aren’t very fast, they are more hitters than coverage guys, and with the Giants having solid corners, I think this is the right machup to unleash our TE’s in the passing game, I want to see Ertz and Burton running Seam routes 20 yards down field all game, putting pressure on them in the middle of the field. If we use our TEs to stretch the field, it should open up a lot of opportunities to do damage throwing to our Runningbacks underneath with space to run after the catch since the Gianfs DONT have any Linebackers like Sean Lee who can stay with SPROLES..

    27-13 Eagles win

  140. 140 anon said at 3:01 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Over-under how many intentional grounding calls with the refs miss

  141. 141 Tumtum said at 5:50 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    They never miss them vs us!

  142. 142 Tumtum said at 5:50 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Maybe mix in some zone blitz, but hell, let the “fastballs” get after him. No reason to open ourselves up if the big boys can hit home.

  143. 143 truehaynes said at 3:03 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    And there lining up that scrub at rt

  144. 144 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:16 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Marshall newhouse/Beatty, jon jerry. Westen richburg, Justin PUGH, Eric Flowers… All I see is a group of pigeons we can pick on Who have been together long enough To gel already yet still can’t block us… When Justin PUGH is your best Olineman, I like schwartz front 7’s chances of kicking their ass again, even with two weeks to prepare to block us… They are lucky Bennie ISNT playing this week, but that shouldn’t be enough to save Eli for another asswhooping of Epic proportions,,.. thinking MS2 will get back to back sacks Curtosy of our generous pal Eli,.
    Curious to see what Jaylen Mills looks like since he is very familiar with ODB Practicing against him in College… They will probably make a couple big plays, but not enough to give them much of a chance to beat us as long as our offense doesn’t completely unravel

  145. 145 Tumtum said at 5:48 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Not even kidding, I feel like this will be as dominating a game as the shut out. They probably score, but it won’t be pretty or easy for them.

  146. 146 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    It’s amazing that the Eagles are #1 in the NFC in point differential and #2 in the NFL only behind the patriots…
    Micheal Lombardi has an interesting theory about teams like the Bucs(Koetter) and Giants (Mcadoo) who elevate their OC’s to HC in that it can end up weakening the coaching staff in two areas: Head coach because a great coordinator isn’t always a great HEADCoach especially right away, and it also can end up weakening you at OC…. From the Eagles stand point, because chip has some seriously fatal flaws, Pederson will probably prove to be an upgrade at HC from Chip, Most would say that Frank Reicht is an upgrade to Shurmer or at least a lateral move, and I think 99% of people would agree that Schwartz is an upgrade as well. I also don’t have to know anything about Greg Lewis to know he is better than Bicknell ever was

  147. 147 Tumtum said at 5:47 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    We aren’t a bad team. We just aren’t consistent… yet.

  148. 148 Rambo said at 2:21 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Eliot Shorr-Parks ✔ @EliotShorrParks
    Pederson basically just said that Paul Turner won’t be promoted to the active roster before Sunday #Eagles
    9:56 AM – 4 Nov 2016
    9 9 Retweets 26 26 likes

  149. 149 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:28 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Guess we’ll be seeing Bryce Treggs

  150. 150 anon said at 2:28 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Damn, can’t believe they’re tanking the season for draft picks.

  151. 151 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:28 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Why would he when Treggs is next in line?
    I assume we will let Kenjon Barner replace Huffs kick returns along with Smallwood instead of letting a WR or CB return kickoffs… But a corner or Treggs will probably replace Huff as a Gunner

  152. 152 BobSmith77 said at 2:51 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Yeah you normally have to dismiss preseason production especially in the 2nd half as next to meaningless.

    I still want to see what Turner can do though especially given how poor Agholor and DGB have looked at times.

    Reminds me a bit of Troy Brown who was buried on Pats’ depth chart underneath several guys his first 2 years until injuries forced the Pats to start using him in ’95 & ’96 a bit more.

    Incredibly smart and intelligent guy who got every ounce out of his talent on the field and did whatever was asked him. One of my favorite NFL players of the past 20 years.

    Turner doesn’t have Brown’s speed or elusiveness but he does seem to have his work ethic, ability to run routes precisely (something this team desperately has lacked supposedly) & good hands. Miscast outside but I wouldn’t mind seeing him in 4-WR sets on one of the inside options.

  153. 153 Tumtum said at 5:46 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    As much as I have hated that team, that player was so awesome. He was like 36 playing both ways. What a beast.

  154. 154 Blackfoot said at 2:50 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    losing to the skins really stings, losing in OT to Dallas is a heartbreaker, but it was in dallas, they are supposed to win, i get it.
    losing to the giants is completely unacceptable, they are the lamest team in the nfc. they need to be beaten down.

  155. 155 Tumtum said at 5:44 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Agreed 100%, and I expect we lay the wood. Off the bye week or not, they are getting wrecked.

    ODB is still probably getting 130 yards, but this is going to be a massacre.

  156. 156 kajomo said at 6:20 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Who cares. This team has lost multiple games they should have won. They need a 4 game run before I take this team seriously as a playoff team. If they lose to the Giants it will prove that they are indeed not at that level. No matter the outcome on Sunday the loss to the Cowboys will be 100 times worse. That game likely gave up the division when we should have had the game locked up and in first place

  157. 157 Sean Stott said at 6:35 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I agree. We were tied with Dallas, probably the best NFC team, and went into OT and lost the coin toss. Not a bad loss. DET we got wrecked by the refs on multiple occasions. WAS hurt really bad.

    If we lose to the Giants I will have to temper my expectations of this team. One bad game so far is not too bad.

  158. 158 Falon Eaves said at 3:33 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Who do you think they’ll bring in to replace him? Maybe someone from camp?

  159. 159 BlindChow said at 9:58 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    It’s really strange they haven’t promoted someone from the PS, like Paul Turner or CB Aaron Grymes… It’s like they want to keep the spot open for someone else?

  160. 160 Cafone said at 10:01 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Well, so far nobody is poaching any of the guys on our practice squad, so why not use the roster spot to poach from someone else’s practice squad?

  161. 161 Bert's Bells said at 10:11 PM on November 4th, 2016:


  162. 162 Falon Eaves said at 11:00 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Same thoughts. Pull up PT. Lots of buzz around him. Let’s try it out. Or bring back that Rush kid from pre-season. He was doing more than most on the team. Seems to me the Eagles just don’t care about actual skill. Just hearsay of numbers

  163. 163 ChoTime said at 7:08 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Possible solution for our WR problems:×0/filters:no_upscale()/

  164. 164 SteveH said at 7:37 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Too short, questionable work ethic, might have trouble learning the playbook. Will he go over the middle at that size?

  165. 165 P_P_K said at 10:22 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Has character issues around squirrels.

  166. 166 Nailed It! said at 7:38 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Pro: speed to take top off defenses.

    Con: Easily distracted by hot dogs being consumed in the stands

  167. 167 ChoTime said at 7:53 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    But no trigger finger.

  168. 168 Tumtum said at 11:03 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Good point. Only real life refefence for that is Mark sanchez. We saw how that worked out

  169. 169 Cafone said at 9:51 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    There’s nothing in the rule book that says a Frisbee dog can’t play in the NFL.

  170. 170 A_T_G said at 10:54 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Please tell me this is not an Air Bud quote.

  171. 171 A_T_G said at 10:15 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Are you cray? Another receiver with no hands?

  172. 172 HawaiianEagle said at 10:43 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    That dog gets high! Too soon?

  173. 173 BobSmith77 said at 11:10 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    I thought they already had this guy on the practice squad:

  174. 174 Tumtum said at 11:02 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    How many of our WR drop that pass?

  175. 175 P_P_K said at 6:10 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Blue bandana violates the League’s dress code.

  176. 176 ChoTime said at 9:41 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    No Fun League
    No Fur League

  177. 177 Media Mike said at 9:44 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Well, the league does allow tackling by dirty dreads, so fur grabbing would be allowed I’m sure.

  178. 178 P_P_K said at 10:21 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    I must have too much time on my hands because I realize the NFL has Ravens, Bengals, Bears, Lions, Colts, Jaguars, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Eagles, Broncos, Cardinals, and Seahawks but no canines.

  179. 179 A Roy said at 6:57 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    It appears that our receiving corps has some canines.

  180. 180 Cafone said at 9:54 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    The Eagles may be 0-2 in the division after two close losses on the road, but I see no reason they can’t win the remaining 4.

  181. 181 Nick C said at 10:06 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    They have both been “winnable,” but getting outplayed or outcoached are obviously possibilities. I will say I am excited about our ability to play with top tier teams.

  182. 182 Cafone said at 10:08 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    The Eagles are undefeated at home! With huge wins over the Pittsburgh Steelers and the previously undefeated Minnesota Vikings!

    These NFC East clowns aren’t going to beat the Eagles in Philadelphia.

  183. 183 BlindChow said at 11:20 PM on November 4th, 2016:

    Me neither. Which is why expect heartbreak on Sunday…

    Why you always do me like that, Eagles??

  184. 184 SteveH said at 12:34 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    The Eagles are the best team in the league at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  185. 185 Tumtum said at 5:58 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    The browns have to own that

  186. 186 Howie Littlefinger said at 3:26 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Well the Eagles are undefeated all time at home or away when they score more points than their opponents!

  187. 187 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:46 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    I see 3 reasons why they probably wont… Their names are matthews, Agholor and DGB

  188. 188 Tumtum said at 10:26 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Wait was the Skins game close? Sure felt like a shit stomp

  189. 189 daveH said at 12:07 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Wstching cowboys game .. 7 minutes left and j Mat fails to catch s perfect toss by Huff … mistake toss backwards to Sproles (dumb call anywsy); ,,, , and W T F punt instead of field, a good punt pinning them bavk is surely muvh toughrr than a field goal .

  190. 190 广告任务网 said at 1:49 AM on November 5th, 2016:


  191. 191 daveH said at 3:22 AM on November 5th, 2016:

    Huff was versatile affordable indestructible and uninjurable … LOVED that sbout hom

  192. 192 Rambo said at 11:57 AM on November 5th, 2016:


  193. 193 daveH said at 12:51 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    In the sense that i never worried about him.. not so good that yhe team absolutely “needed” him… like B Westbrook: i always worried that every touch left him a bit hobbled. We never got to see Buckhalter really. JR Reed, dam a fence!! Hcks last year.. the injuries hurt.
    But Reno Mahe ha! Never worried about him gettin injured.
    And this cat was way better than Mahe..

  194. 194 Rambo said at 3:02 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Ok….I see what you are saying. Agreed.

  195. 195 daveH said at 3:45 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    And his pass to J Matt shud have been caught. And a TD

  196. 196 Tumtum said at 5:57 PM on November 5th, 2016:


  197. 197 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 12:49 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Boy has any WR, inactive through half the season, gotten more attention than Bryce Treggs? We’re some desperate people.

  198. 198 FairOaks said at 6:18 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Paul Turner?

  199. 199 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 6:58 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Not even on the roster but you’re right we talk about him (some sarcastically) constantly! We’re so sad.

  200. 200 Nailed It! said at 1:54 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Ouch Hart and Logan are now OUT.

  201. 201 GermanEagle said at 2:08 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    The Giants have one of the worst rushing games.

    Here’s hope that we will get Benny back for the Falcons game next Sunday, because that Freeman guy is kinda good…

  202. 202 ACViking said at 2:44 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    So did Detroit and Washington before they played the Eagles.

  203. 203 Tumtum said at 5:57 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    I missed the Lions game. It couldnt have been like that Wash game, right? I thought they actually played very well vs elliot

  204. 204 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:47 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Lions did a lot of their damage running outside, and were aided by the Refs allowing the Lions to hold our DEs when they were trying to set the edge long enough to let the RB get outside and turn the corner..
    Skins Run game against us was probably similar to Dallas. What really killed Us in the washington game were the skins OLineman were all over our LB who had a piss poor game getting off blocks.. It’s promising to see us rebound the way we did against the Dallas run game… But the skins continue to scare me until we put an end to their winning streak over us

  205. 205 Tumtum said at 3:07 PM on November 6th, 2016:

    Skins dominated us up front. Saw that unfortunately. Plain and simple.

  206. 206 P_P_K said at 6:09 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    If it weren’t factually true, I would downvote your post just for reminding me.

  207. 207 RC5000 said at 2:32 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Check this play out . Coleman is a stud but probably tries too much here.

    Texas Tech defensive back Douglas Coleman rips the ball out of D’Onta Foreman’s hands just as he about to cross the goal line, and races from one end of the field to the other for an 100-yard touchdown return.

  208. 208 ACViking said at 2:43 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Re: This Week’s Officiating Crew

    Bill Vinovich will referee the Eagles-Giants game tomorrow.

    Lifetime, the Eagles are 6-5 with BV’s crew (.545), but 1-2 over the past 5 years.

    So far this season, here’s how the Eagles have done by referee:

    Gm 1: Browns (W) — ref Walt Anderson .647 winning % for Birds (B4 the game)

    Gm 2: Bears (W) — ref Jeff Triplette .667

    Gm 3: Steelers (W) — ref Brad Allen .500

    Gm 4: Lions (L) — ref Pete Morelli .545 . . . but .200 in most recent five

    Gm 5: Washington (L) — ref John Parry .333

    Gm 6: Vikings (W) — ref John Hussey .xxx (1st time refereeing the Birds)

    Gm 7: Dallas (L) — ref Jerome Boger .428

    All under the FWIW column

  209. 209 P_P_K said at 6:08 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    The League must have stats on the crews. It would be interesting to learn who calls the most penalties, what types of penalties, plays over-turned, homefield advantage, etc.

  210. 210 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:38 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Eagles have all that info, as do most teams I would assume…. Not uncommon for teams to breakdown the ref crews data going into each game… I assume that info becomes more valuable in the second half of the season than the first half, and it’s not an exact science as the Eagles @ Detroit game proved

  211. 211 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:39 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Some plays I expect to see from the Eagles Offense tomorrow:
    When opponents study the Eagles offense, they see DGB catching a slant or two in most of our games. Since the Giants pass rush is average, this could be the right opportunity to take a shot down field with DGB… Early in the game, hopefully we complete a slant to DGB, so later in the game we can use motion to make sure the RB or TE occupy the Giants Safeties, and let DGB/Wentz take a shot down field on a “Slant and Go” route. Ideally Wentz sells the slant with a pump fake, freezing the CB for a split second while DGB plants his foot and explodes up field… By now every defense knows DGB will run slants, fade routes, and smoke screens, so hopefully we can catch a CB slipping on a slant and go route, or Attack the CB with some other double move..
    Corners are one of the strengths of the Giant defense, fortunately their safeties can be suspect in coverage. So while everyone talks about the need to stretch the field this week, we may find more success stretching the field with our TEs instead of the WRs this week, to my knowledge when the gIants study the Eagles offense, they won’t see many TE Seam routes 20 yards down down field in the last 4 games, so this should be the week we get Ertz and Burton going more than 7 yard routes… I’d like to see Pederson send Ertz or Trey Down the Seam at least once per quarter so that even if we can’t complete them, Landon Collins will have to respect the threat of us sending Ertz down field, which in turn can create some room to throw underneath to SPROLES since the Giants Coverage LB LB Keenan(former redskin) ISNT even close to what Sean Lee is
    I’d also like to take a shot down field with SPROLES or Kenjon.. Early in the game catch the Giants in man coverage and connect with a simple 5 yard out route to SPROLES,. Later in the game we can Line up in some type of Bunch set where we have 3 pass catchers lined up close to each other on the right side of the formation commanding a lot of the defenses attention to the right side of the field, while we line up a TE on the opposite side (left side) and send him down the Seam on the left side of the field to hold the Safeties attention, while we line SPROLES up in the back field, get him matched up against a LB in man coverage, run the same out route from earlier only Wentz throws a pump fake at the end of the out route, while SPROLES turns it into a wheel route and explodes up field for what hopefully ends up being at least a 30 yard completion
    With Huff gone, I assume they will let Agholar and DGB run those smoke screens, jet sweeps or reverses early in the game in hopes that it gets them going and into a Rythem before asking them to make some catches down field
    Our run game will really decide how difficult this game needs to be,, If we can get our run game going early on, opening up play action for us then this doesn’t have to be a nail biter of a matchup especially if the Giants struggle to score 17 points because they can’t block our front 7 like Im expecting
    If our offense puts up 20 points, that should be plenty to beat the Giants. Think they would need two big TDs from Odell Beckham to have a shot at winning this week… Hopefully we get to see that savage McLeod lay ODB out with a clean monster hit, and I want to brandon Graham debacle Eli.

  212. 212 The original AG said at 4:48 PM on November 5th, 2016:

  213. 213 The original AG said at 5:01 PM on November 5th, 2016:

  214. 214 Media Mike said at 8:44 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Somebody needs to chop this loser in the neck. Justine Puke, who has the career highlight of being welcomed to prison by Connor Barwin, has WAY too much to say.

  215. 215 HawaiianEagle said at 9:13 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Yeah? Well I don’t like NY so fuck you.

  216. 216 Media Mike said at 9:16 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Seriously. And it isn’t like anybody has been cursing the gal out when they’ve seen her. If she’d like that to escalate…….she should keep crying. Justine Puke is brutal.

  217. 217 Cafone said at 10:59 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    He’s from Bucks county. They don’t count as Philadelphians.

  218. 218 Greg said at 11:11 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Go Eagles!

  219. 219 Mac said at 12:18 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    What’s he going to do? Try to grab fans with is little T-rex arms?

  220. 220 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:37 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Can’t wait TIL Cox Clubs him upside his head

  221. 221 SteveH said at 9:16 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    lol, Joel Embiid is 4 for 4 from 3 point range right now. Play Embiid at the 2.

  222. 222 Media Mike said at 9:30 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    And loser piece of garbage Gerald Henderson threw away the game. That guy has been a piece of garbage even since he and that other scumbag Ellington did Nova dirty and left town for college.

  223. 223 Aaron said at 10:32 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    duke rules, K is the GOAT, you loser

  224. 224 Cafone said at 10:59 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    He is the best outside shooter on the team.

    I’m loving the new guy though. Seems like the perfect mentor for Dario.

  225. 225 Cafone said at 11:06 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Hypothetical situation: You are protecting a slim lead late in the game. Who would you rather have calling the plays, Doug Pederson or Brett Brown.

  226. 226 MaybePederson said at 9:04 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Cardboard cutout of bill bellicheck

  227. 227 daveH said at 11:13 PM on November 5th, 2016:

    Ive checked here like 10 times today. Maybe more actually

  228. 228 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:34 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Me too Dave, me too

  229. 229 Dave said at 8:26 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Seven games into the Carson Wentz era, it seems the beat writers mantra is “can Wentz lead a game-winning drive”. There are going to be a lot of these silly headlines in the next few months/years.

  230. 230 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:26 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    One of the most special plays of Wentz season was holding on to that ball while the Cowboys defender hit him from behind… How many other Eagles fans were screaming “Two Handed Monster” when they realized he didn’t fumble that ball? That would have been one of the biggest Plays had we won
    I feel like Wentz is the first QB since McNabb who could hold on to that ball like that avoiding disaster… Shame that play got lost in the mletdown loss

  231. 231 Media Mike said at 9:31 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Yeah, Wentz generally seems stupidity proof.

  232. 232 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:59 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Yup, and stupidity and not beating yourself seems to be a big part of who wins each week..
    It be interesting to hear Bryce Treggs honest Evaluatuon of how he compares and contrasts Wentz vs Goeff since he has played with both

  233. 233 GermanEagle said at 10:13 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    What day is it?!

  234. 234 HawaiianEagle said at 10:18 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Miracle in the Meadowlands 3 day

  235. 235 Nick C said at 10:32 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Hope we don’t need a miracle to beat them.

  236. 236 GermanEagle said at 11:30 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    Yes my heart couldn’t take that…

  237. 237 Anders said at 10:36 AM on November 6th, 2016:

    That was the 2011 game.