Halftime – PHI 10, DAL 10

Posted: January 1st, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 157 Comments »

Weird game because Dallas is has already used all 3 of their QBs. And because the 2016 Eagles are just a very weird team.

What have we learned?

  • Jordan Hicks is good.
  • Carson Wentz is talented, but very inconsistent.
  • Mark Sanchez is awful.
  • The Eagles need WRs in a big way.
  • Nolan Carroll is not an elite shutdown corner.

That’s about it.

Can’t wait for the 2nd half.

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157 Comments on “Halftime – PHI 10, DAL 10”

  1. 1 Julescat said at 2:41 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    first?

  2. 2 jmh said at 2:42 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Test

  3. 3 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 2:43 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    it works

  4. 4 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:43 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    There we go.

  5. 5 A_T_G said at 2:44 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Is it wrong to hope that Romo trips over a Sanchez chicken finger and ruins his trade value?

  6. 6 scratcherk said at 2:45 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    seumalo destroyed

  7. 7 scratcherk said at 2:46 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    whos injured

  8. 8 scratcherk said at 2:46 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    jp

  9. 9 jmh said at 2:47 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    JP

  10. 10 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:46 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Wentz will get killed today

  11. 11 scratcherk said at 2:47 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    can we just punt now

  12. 12 A_T_G said at 2:48 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    False start – everyone except the center.

  13. 13 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:48 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Put Daniel in soon?

  14. 14 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:51 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Carroll is consistent

  15. 15 Allen3000 said at 2:52 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Our CBs are just so embarrassing. But so too are our WRs….

  16. 16 scratcherk said at 2:52 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    basically anyone out wide

  17. 17 Allen3000 said at 2:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Yep ;(

  18. 18 A_T_G said at 2:52 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Carroll is getting abused

  19. 19 Howie Littlefinger said at 2:52 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    lolololo our dbs just got burnt by sanchez to beasly

  20. 20 Julescat said at 2:54 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    embarrassing

  21. 21 Allen3000 said at 2:57 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    How was that not holding or hands to the face???

  22. 22 jmh said at 2:58 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Is this your first Dallas game?

  23. 23 Allen3000 said at 3:00 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Just surprised it wasn’t even pointed out. Looked pretty blatant to me.

  24. 24 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:00 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Marshall looks slow

  25. 25 nicolajNN said at 3:00 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    To be fair about Jason Garrett’s alertness, he literrally has nothing else to do. He doesn’t call plays, Jerry decides who plays, the least Garrett can do is call timeouts

  26. 26 ConcussedFB said at 3:01 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Mike Quick just called that DGB route a lazy slant.

  27. 27 scratcherk said at 3:02 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    i hate our wrs

  28. 28 Allen3000 said at 3:02 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I guess 2 completed slant passes in a row would be too much to ask for.

  29. 29 A_T_G said at 3:02 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    So, at this rate DGB will know all of the routes by 2027?

  30. 30 A_T_G said at 3:04 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    What did the fans react to before the 3rd down?

  31. 31 scratcherk said at 3:04 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    i assume watson wasnt touched down.

  32. 32 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    That was my thought as well.

  33. 33 A_T_G said at 3:06 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I guess the Cowboy ministry of communication prevented them from showing us.

  34. 34 scratcherk said at 3:04 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    ill take anything

  35. 35 Allen3000 said at 3:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Good grief, this Burkhart guy is such a tool.

  36. 36 scratcherk said at 3:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    OK seriously, what would you guys do to upgrade WR?

    I think we really have to get one in FA. Cant rely on a rookie.

  37. 37 Fufina said at 3:07 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    We will 100% sign a mid tier or better WR in free agency. You can be critical of Howie’s signings in free agency at times but generally he targets the right positions and invests $$ when needed.

  38. 38 A_T_G said at 3:08 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I think we should just work on some 5 TE sets for next year.

  39. 39 scratcherk said at 3:08 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Maybe some regime changes can make some WRs available for trade?

    How about — Sammy Watkins for a 2nd? Allen Robinson for a 2nd?

    Trying to think outside the box here.

  40. 40 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 3:10 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    FA and a rookie

  41. 41 A_T_G said at 3:11 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Or maybe just a rookie free agent?

  42. 42 scratcherk said at 3:12 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    FA market is dingy unfortunately.

  43. 43 scratcherk said at 3:07 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    WOOOOOT!

  44. 44 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:07 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    !!!!!!

  45. 45 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:08 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Way to go Ertz

  46. 46 jmh said at 3:09 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Ertz “breaking out” again (in a meaningless game)

  47. 47 scratcherk said at 3:11 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    when we’re so depleted for receiving talent, cant discount that.

  48. 48 Fufina said at 3:11 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    While Ertz is having a nice game… Eagles WR’s have 26 yards so far lol.

  49. 49 A_T_G said at 3:13 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    But if Agholor was playing it would be at least 30.

  50. 50 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:15 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    or 20. Agholor was 1 for -1 when he left.

  51. 51 scratcherk said at 3:17 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    love me some curry.

  52. 52 truehaynes said at 3:18 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I really like when we rush Cox from the de spot. He seems to beat tackles easily

  53. 53 A_T_G said at 3:20 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I saw on Twitter that Carr (I think) needs one interception to earn a $250,000 bonus. I would like to see the game end by the Eagles in victory formation. Then, on the last play, Wentz points at Jerry in his box, makes a money gesture, and lobs the ball to Carr.

  54. 54 ConcussedFB said at 3:23 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Very pro wrestling. I like it.

  55. 55 unhinged said at 3:39 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Kinda like Michael Strahan’s season sack record when Brett Favre just stood there?

  56. 56 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:25 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Who’s that in Ertzs uniform

  57. 57 A_T_G said at 3:27 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I can list a few guys who it is not.

  58. 58 scratcherk said at 3:26 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Potential offseason additions:

    WR Desean, RB Dalvin Cook, CB Gilmore, CB Tankersly, WR Dede Westbrook.

    I’d be happy with that.

  59. 59 scratcherk said at 3:28 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    If Ertz builds on the end of this season, that would be a tremendous help

  60. 60 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:30 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Maybe it was his rib injury earlier this year that set him back

  61. 61 A_T_G said at 3:31 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Absolutely, whether phically or mentally, that changed his game for a while.

  62. 62 Fufina said at 3:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    And he had no chemistry with Wentz. Most of the offseason he was catching passes from Bradford and Daniels, not Wentz. Wentz really did not work with a quality TE while in college and it has taken him a while to start feeding him the ball.

  63. 63 aron said at 4:55 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    next year, or the year after, or later years is gonna be his breakout year or something

  64. 64 A_T_G said at 3:30 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I hate to say it guys, but it is possible Treggs and Turner are not the answer.

  65. 65 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Blasphemy

  66. 66 Crus57 said at 3:34 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    This just shows we are obviously asking the wrong questions

  67. 67 Allen3000 said at 3:34 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Which is expected, but it was definitely worth a shot given the crap production we’ve had all year.

  68. 68 laeagle said at 3:32 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I do get a bit tired of people bitching about Ertz’s production in December. He’s a case in point of how important it is to develop chemistry with your QB. He’s had a new starting QB every year. This year, he worked all offseason on developing chemistry with Bradford. Now that he’s finally got it going with Wentz, we’re going to complain? It’s ridiculous.

  69. 69 A_T_G said at 3:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Like Charlie mentioned too, that rib injury lingered in his play, too.

  70. 70 jmh said at 3:39 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Fair enough.

  71. 71 A_T_G said at 3:39 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Ertz goes out. We run now, right?

  72. 72 A_T_G said at 3:39 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Nope.

  73. 73 scratcherk said at 3:40 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    whats a run?

  74. 74 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:40 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Turner >>> Agholor

  75. 75 jmh said at 3:41 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Tina?

  76. 76 A_T_G said at 3:41 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Nat.

  77. 77 scratcherk said at 3:42 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Ted.

  78. 78 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:42 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Nat, Paul, Kathleen, Lana, and Ted.

  79. 79 A_T_G said at 3:43 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Show off.

  80. 80 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:43 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Just showing my age, nothing else.

  81. 81 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 3:45 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Ike

  82. 82 scratcherk said at 3:41 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    only in terms of talent and production. and probably intangibles. and taste in movies.

  83. 83 scratcherk said at 3:45 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Byron marshall is barry sanders. heard it myself

  84. 84 A_T_G said at 3:46 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Well, we just got a Byron Marshall/ Barry Sanders comparison. Might be time to watch on mute.

  85. 85 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 3:47 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    It was time for that a long time ago

  86. 86 Julescat said at 3:48 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Marshall is equivalent to the present day Sanders

  87. 87 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:48 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Colonel?

  88. 88 Crus57 said at 3:49 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    or Colonel Sanders?

  89. 89 Julescat said at 3:49 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    the newer young one or the traditional old Colonel Sanders?

  90. 90 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:50 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    He did say present day

  91. 91 sonofdman said at 4:06 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    They do both have eyes.

  92. 92 BobSmith77 said at 4:43 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Was that if Sanders had a pulled hamstring?

  93. 93 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:48 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    C’mon defense. Preserve us some pride here.

  94. 94 scratcherk said at 3:50 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    whats that?

  95. 95 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:51 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    A group of lions.

  96. 96 jmh said at 3:52 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Regardless of the outcome, happy New Years to you all. Looking forward to all the off season discussions. 2017 will be better.

  97. 97 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Back at ya

  98. 98 BobSmith77 said at 4:42 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Likewise.

  99. 99 Dave said at 3:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Jeff McLane ejected from press box at the Eagles game. Cue the ‘Howie needs to be held accountable” story tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/815659146779525120

  100. 100 ConcussedFB said at 3:55 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Heard he took off his cowboy boots and put his feet on the table. Lefty ordered him thrown out and they opened the door with his head.

  101. 101 Crus57 said at 3:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Skip Bayless could start a diet plan, because everytime I see or hear him I feel nauseous and want nothing to do with food.

  102. 102 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:54 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    There’s the Sanchez we love so well.

  103. 103 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:54 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Sachez is a special player

  104. 104 Julescat said at 3:55 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    the Sanchize!

  105. 105 Crus57 said at 3:55 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    a 19yd sack takes talent and preparation

  106. 106 ACViking said at 3:56 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    This guy was Kelly’s idea of a great #2 QB.

  107. 107 Julescat said at 3:56 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    he smells like #2

  108. 108 Dave said at 3:58 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I just spit out my beer onto the bar. thx, now everyone is looking at me.

  109. 109 A_T_G said at 3:56 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    It is tough to escape the 8-yard sack and turn it into a bigger play.

  110. 110 scratcherk said at 4:00 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Happy for Watson

  111. 111 since1961 said at 4:02 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    And he didn’t fumble.

  112. 112 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:01 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Definitely Sanchez’s best game as an Eagle.

  113. 113 Crus57 said at 4:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Hopefully the Cowboys are getting all their lucky bounces out of the way before the playoffs

  114. 114 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Its been great guys.
    There’s always next year

  115. 115 aron said at 4:25 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    as an eagles fan, thats what we always say

  116. 116 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:30 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    some day………..

  117. 117 Julescat said at 4:06 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    sweet that the season ends with a victory over Dallas

  118. 118 A_T_G said at 4:08 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    For those keeping track, the Eagles have defense stop, huge sack, blocked punt, TD and are undefeated since the McLane ejection.

  119. 119 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:32 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Undefeated this year.

  120. 120 scratcherk said at 4:10 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    DAL just upped Romo’s trade stock for the offseason

  121. 121 Patrick said at 4:30 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    It’ll have to be one hell of a trade, according to overthecap.com, Dallas will suffer 19.6 million in dead money if Romo gets traded.

  122. 122 Dave said at 4:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    The question becomes more about who would trade anything of value for a 37 year old QB with major injury concerns.

  123. 123 Bert's Bells said at 5:19 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Vikings?

  124. 124 Dave said at 5:22 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Well done!

  125. 125 scratcherk said at 4:11 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Looks like we’re picking around #13.

  126. 126 scratcherk said at 4:12 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Nevermind, more like 16

  127. 127 SteveH said at 4:20 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    16 works, if not the best. Better than 24+ we would have had if the Vikes had made the playoffs.

  128. 128 John Galt said at 4:20 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Believe 15 if the saints win -16 if not

  129. 129 scratcherk said at 4:34 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    So its 15 if Saints and Broncos win, 16 if they split and 17 if they both lose.

  130. 130 Mitchell said at 4:21 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Ill take Wentz and mid 1st all day, everyday.

  131. 131 SteveH said at 4:22 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Interesting that despite all our midseason shittiness we still managed to down the Giants and Falcons in meaningful games. Just a weird season overall.

  132. 132 Fufina said at 4:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    We had 3 awful games in a row and i think the stink of those is still tainting our evaluation of the season. We ended up with a brutal schedule and played tough against a lot of good teams with a rookie QB and huge OL turn over in the middle of the season.

  133. 133 D3FB said at 5:05 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Before the season people looked at the schedule and went “Seahawks, Packers, Bengals is going to be brutal”. It was brutal. But suddenly people were surprised.

  134. 134 Fufina said at 5:24 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Yeah – and looking how the packers have built from there they were not as ‘poor’ as people felt back in October. Having said that the performances from the team were not good especial against the Bengals, just when the team needed to pull out a win to keep the season together.

  135. 135 BobSmith77 said at 4:38 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Took advantage of the atypical weather to go for a long bike ride instead this afternoon.

    Good to see some things haven’t changed in the New Year so far with Sanchez picking right where he left off last season.

  136. 136 since1961 said at 4:46 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Tee-hee

  137. 137 BobSmith77 said at 4:40 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Please, please remove Pederson from calling the plays and let him focus on managing the game with Reich taking over next year.

    It got raised today in the post game press conference too. I’m helpful it is one of the coaching staff tweaks I hope they make this offseason.

  138. 138 laeagle said at 4:42 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I think the criticism of Pederson’s play calling is WAAAAY overblown. I think he’s had flashes of some pretty creative play calls. Some questionable things here and there, but overall, if you’re looking to complain about the season, Pederson’s play calling should be pretty far down on the list.

  139. 139 BobSmith77 said at 4:45 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Not so much his play calling even if he has been uber aggressive to the point of being foolhardy.

    It is more about him having too much to manage and keep track of during the game. Thought it was a real mistake he tried to take this on as a rookie head coach this year and still would rather see him focus just on that before taking on additional responsibilities.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this change either with Reich taking over this role. Pederson said it was up to him which I highly doubt too. If Roseman says it will happen, Pederson will acquiesce accordingly.

  140. 140 BobSmith77 said at 4:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Pederson stated he thinks they are ‘very close’ to be very competitive. Strongly disagree. Hard to tell if this was just him giving a standard answer or if he really thinks this.

    Given how candid Pederson has tended to be at times this year, I tend to believe he gives it a fair amount of credence including his comment right afterwards about losing a number of close games this year.

    Of course they can contend and maybe even make the playoffs next year given the nature of the NFL but this taking 2 seasons.

  141. 141 D3FB said at 5:02 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    They had a point differential of +36, lost two games by a point, and four others by less than one score.

    You can’t tell me this team is markedly worse than the giants.

    They aren’t going to be cream of the crop, but they should be playoff contenders with more than a punchers chance against even the best teams.

  142. 142 ChoTime said at 5:03 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    But, but, but you are what your record says you **oof!**

  143. 143 D3FB said at 5:04 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    That’s fair, and they were probably a 7 win team, but then again “The difference between 6-10 and 10-6 is about a dozen plays over the course of a season”

  144. 144 BobSmith77 said at 5:16 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Really competitive team to me is one that wins the division and wins 11-12 games. Basically one in position to get a bye.

    I could see them going 10-6 next year with a more favorable schedule & having a good offseason.

  145. 145 Tumtum said at 5:12 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Couldnt have said it better.

  146. 146 BobSmith77 said at 5:16 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Markedly worse no but the Giants are a better team including defensively and they will Beckman. I’d still take Eli at this point too over Wentz too although that likely changes in a year or so.

  147. 147 laeagle said at 8:53 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Honestly, they’re not _markedly_ worse than the Cowboys. While still banged up at O-line, and with next to nothing for outside receivers, we still had the first game in hand until we fumbled it away.

    There is a promising core of players on this team. We need pieces, and it will probably take a couple of years to become legit SB contenders, but we’re certainly close to being “very competitive”. We were “very competitive” with some good teams this year. We had some bad games, too. As others have pointed out, though, our problems were consistent. CB and WR, over and over again. Which tells you that this team needs help at those positions, but also that the team isn’t a sinking ship with different holes appearing every week.

    I think that people who think the arrow is pointing down are nuts. I think that people who don’t think Wentz has a 75% or greater chance of being a top 10 QB are nuts. And I think everyone who thinks Doug is the problem is WAAAY overanalyzing everything and missing the bigger picture of what a rookie head coach was able to accomplish with a rookie QB who didn’t get first team reps all camp, and with severe talent gaps at the critical outside positions of CB and WR.

    Sure, maybe the team falls apart. I didn’t see that. Maybe Wentz turns into Bob G 3. I certainly didn’t see that; I saw a guy willing to work on his game. And maybe Doug is secretly a drooling idiot. I saw a rookie coach who made some mistakes but who also had a tremendously creative offense that worked with some major talent gaps, and who had his team ready to play in big time games against teams like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, and Atlanta.

    In short, you can find problems with EVERY team. But I think if you think the arrow isn’t pointing up, at the very least, I think you may be missing the forest for the trees.

  148. 148 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:08 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    WTF is Seattle doing losing to the 49ers? Anyone got that game on. What the hell?

  149. 149 Crus57 said at 5:12 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    hoping to get Chip to stay around for another year?

  150. 150 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:13 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Nah, I want to be reassured that Seattle will knock off the Cowboys when the time comes.

  151. 151 Sean Stott said at 5:44 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Cowboys are better than the Seahawks tho

  152. 152 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Dallas Sucks.

  153. 153 Crus57 said at 5:12 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    We had a rookie head coach, a rookie QB who only had one week of practice as the starter, and so many injuries our offensive lineup was basically determined by a slot machine each week, in the hardest division in football this year and against one of the hardest schedules.

    And we finished one game under .500 .

    We have lots of holes to fill, but we also have the building blocks for a strong future.

  154. 154 Dave said at 5:33 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Pulled this from PFFs mock draft…they’re not wrong. “Coming into the season, the Eagles’ roster looked solid in most areas other than cornerback and wide receiver and that’s exactly how things have played out.”

  155. 155 ChoTime said at 8:09 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Do you think they were solid at QB? Just curious.

  156. 156 Dave said at 8:17 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    Yes, I think Wentz is the real deal. You don’t?

  157. 157 ChoTime said at 8:21 PM on January 1st, 2017:

    I’m not sure. I’m hopeful that he will _become_ the real deal, but I’m not sure he was a solid QB this season. It’s hard for me to separate his performance from the awful one of his teammates.

    His stats are pretty bad. Sometimes he looks good. He’s young.