Overnight Success
Posted: January 6th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 149 Comments »Brandon Graham is a good football player. Damn good, in fact.
Brandon Graham:
– First team Pro Bowl alternate
– Second team AP All-Pro
– First team PFF All-Pro#Eagles— Brandon Lee Gowton (@BrandonGowton) January 6, 2017
In some ways it feels like he got good in a hurry. It is easy to forget that when Graham started his first game for the Eagles, Kevin Kolb was the team’s starting QB. That seems like ages ago.
Graham was disruptive in that game, starting at DE and sliding inside as a DT in Nickel/Dime sets. He played pretty well as a rookie, but got hurt late in the year and that seemed to completely throw his career off track. Graham only played in 3 games during the Dream Team season of 2011. He came back in 2012 and proved to be an effective situational pass rusher.
Then Chip Kelly took over and Graham moved to OLB. He was borderline awful at first. Graham says that Kelly wanted to cut him and keep Travis Long. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it didn’t happen because Long got hurt. Graham didn’t play a lot in 2013 because he just wasn’t a good LB.
I was shocked at how much better he was in 2014. You weren’t going to mistake Graham for Seth Joyner, but he was functional as a LB and remained a disruptive pass rusher. He became a starting OLB in 2015 and had a good year. Graham got to move back to 4-3 DE when Jim Schwartz took over and he had a terrific season.
According to Stats LLC, second-team @AP All-Pro @brandongraham55 led the @NFL with 80 combined sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns in 2016. pic.twitter.com/r3yYnnjz3G
— John Gonoude (@john_gonoude) January 6, 2017
Top-graded edge defenders:
1. Khalil Mack, 93.8
2. Cameron Jordan, 92.8
3. Brandon Graham, 92.7
4. Von Miller, 90.2
5. Joey Bosa, 88.8 pic.twitter.com/g3HFvRt9YX— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 28, 2016
Graham didn’t post gaudy sack numbers, but all you have to do is watch the tape and you see him in the backfield over and over.
It is good we didn’t rush to judgment on BG. After 5 years, he had 13 starts and 17 sacks. Graham had to deal with different coaches and schemes and lots of overall changes. He kept his nose to the grindstone and worked himself into being an outstanding player.
I would love to tell you Marcus Smith could do the same kind of thing, but Graham showed serious flashes from the first game he ever played. Smith is way behind that schedule and has never looked more than average. Maybe the light comes on for him, but Graham is the exception and not the rule. Most guys who don’t pan out early on don’t pan out at all.
I have a lot of respect for Graham because of how hard he’s had to work to get to this point. He had challenge after challenge and none of them were self-inflicted. He wasn’t out of shape. He wasn’t partying too much. He wasn’t distracted by fame. Life put a lot of obstacles in Graham’s way and he overcame them all. I hope Eagles fans appreciated what a good player he has become.
Kudos, BG.
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NFL announced #Eagles QB Carson Wentz finalist for Rookie of the Year. Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott, Joey Bosa and Deion Jones are others.
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) January 6, 2017
Congratulations Mr. Wentz. You won’t be winning the award, but it is still good to be considered.
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Throwback Thursday: Princess Diana drops Prince Harry off at school in an Eagles jacket, this month in 1991 pic.twitter.com/7RcBxZIk3u
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) January 5, 2017
I can’t believe I didn’t see this picture until the other day. I assume she watched the Body Bag Game in 1990 and decided she had to get some Eagles gear. Clearly a classy princess.
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Come on guys let’s Phil up Tommy’s comments board
I’ll take my shot even though it’s off-topic. Today (yesterday by the calendar) is the 10th anniversary of Romo’s fumble on the 19 yard field goal attempt in the Wild Card game. Here’s to hoping Zak is a similar choke artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm7uobki920
That tackle was amazing, a split-second later and it would have been a first-down
I remember that great tackle, but the fog of time has reduced everything else to a mental snapshot Romo sitting dejectedly on field. Good times.
The fear and “oh shit” that emanated from Romo as he scrambled around is something I will never forget.
I guess Graham shows how important top 20 talent is in the draft. After all the changes and obstacles, he still came back and has had multiple good seasons and now a great one. Well done BG.
Great is a little much, no?
Had the most pressures in the NFL this year, better than Mack and others like the graphic above shows. From a sack prospective, no. From overall pressures yes, he waa great.
It was a very nice season. Guess we just disagree on the definition of great.
It wasn’t fantastic but it was better than good. His statistics in the graphic above sum it up nicely.
Started getting into watching a few game clips from draftbreakdown/Youtube. Have any of you guys checked out James Washington from OSU? Seems to have excellent hands especially when the ball is thrown high. Seeing that Wentz has some trouble in that department, maybe it’s a good idea to draft a WR who is naturally good at catching high passes.
He’s going back to school for his senior year.
Well shoot, maybe next year. Thanks for the info!
It’s a shame really. I think he could have been the 4th WR taken if he had a good combine. He’s going to be really good.
What, Mr. Smarty Art guy wants to learn rather than help the Eagles????? What a bum.
Hopefully we can get him in the 2018 draft.
Thank you for doing this. I appreciate the work some of you guys put in on film so we can all know a little more about some of these prospects. I’m a voracious reader on these guys, so I like seeing what a few of y’all do with the film end of things.
Graham has come a long way. It wasn’t long ago we were regretting not drafting JPP or Earl Thomas instead. Although some people still might rather have Thomas, I don’t think anyone would rather have JPP.
I still get crap from my friends for cheering the Graham pick when we made it. I was convinced we got a 8-10 sack a year impact pass rusher when we took him.
And F JPP – one trick pony on the downside of a career built on a flash in the pan season.
Had he not destroyed his knee, I think your prediction was pretty safe.
Yea, I’d much rather have Earl Thomas. But, JPP has been even more inconsistent than Graham, but all his inconsistencies have been self imposed. I’d take Graham over him in a redraft at this point.
http://www.businessinsider.com/raiders-owner-mark-davis-bowl-cut-mini-van-2017-1
Maybe Lurie should take some notes since he’s not a football guy or wants to win according to some Eagles fans.
The juxtaposition of that guy’s haircut and the barber travel anecdote in the article had me almost spit out my coffee.
Nice link!
And I don’t get the Lurie hate, do these people remember scumbag Norman Braman?
The Lurie hate is the dumbest thing I’ve heard all season. It tops the dumb fire Doug narrative by miles.
I think I can explain (if not justify) both the Lurie and Doug “hate.”
Lurie is an owner who has chosen to also be CEO. This is a significant decision, and not a de facto implication of being an owner of a professional sports team. He doesn’t have to be involved in choosing who the HC is, who plays QB, who gets chosen in the 1st round of the draft, etc. He’s certainly not a “football guy” who worked his way through the ranks over the years. So as THE person responsible for the football decision making of the Phila Eagles, he is fair game in terms of 2nd guessing, questioning his judgement, evaluating his “performance,” etc.
Dougie P – He could turn out to be a good HC in the NFL, but no one thinks he is now – most assessments of him (appropriately) take into account that he is a first year coach with a rookie at QB. The only aspect of his performance (and those of his offensive assistants) that really matters is that he (they) develop Carson Wentz and put the team in a position to capitalize on his abilities going forward. Has he done a good job of that? Very few of us are qualified to say. But there is plenty to question him on. And if I’m Lurie, the minute I conclude that Doug (and/or those around him) are holding back Wentz or retarding his development in some way, he is gone.
The bar for Doug changes based on circumstances, of course, so his evaluation after years 2 and 3 will probably be against a different benchmark. Other areas of concern at this point include his ability to learn from mistakes and the fact that he lost the team for at least a part of the season.
Mark Davis: does he have a wife/gf? If he does, it proves the rule regarding money and having the ability to attract women.
Most football teams have the owners named CEO. Even if they are not in name, they in fact hold the power of God when it comes to their team. I just did a few quick searches of NFL teams and was unable to disprove what I just said. Even if 5 of 32 don’t follow this trend, I think enough do it, that questioning it is pretty foolish.
The assertion that he isn’t a football guy who moved up through the ranks is right. Unfortunately Al Davis is dead. Art Rooney is gone (who actually just bought his team as kind of a normal guy). Not surprisingly at all the current Mr.Davis and Mr.Rooney are the ONLY sub-billion net-worth owners. Expecting him to have magically worked his way from water boy to owner is silly and unrealistic.
Jeff Lurie, not unlike any other owner who has ever bought and NFL team, has a deep love for the sport. Sure, feel free to disagree with his leadership of the organization. Basing dislike of him on flawed logic is very unfortunate though.
What happened to the ‘lol?’ It fits perfectly with the rest of your comment, so I don’t know why you would take that out.
I don’t know that you are capable of comprehending what I wrote, but there’s nothing “foolish” or “illogical” about it. Just because a majority of owners may also act as chief football decision maker – a point which you did not establish, incidentally – doesn’t negate the point I am making.
You might be one of those guys who just likes to pick fights online, so if that’s the case, feel free to have the last word and hope your tummy feels better.
I left it out because I felt it may be offensive to you, despite the fact I find your lack of logic funny, I didn’t intend to insult you. I deleted it within seconds, so its unfortunate you saw it, and apparently took it that way.
I find it even funnier that you would question my comprehension ability the sentence before proving your inability to comprehend what I wrote.
Don’t worry I won’t make any personal attacks in return, as you accuse me of being the internet bully, while attacking me for disagreeing with you.
Sorry you got your butt hurt bud.
Don’t misunderstand – it’s ok, I guess, to go trolling for scalps on the web.. Some people get off on that, I know. You just have to be smarter than those that you’re going after… I think that’s where you fall considerably short. Happy hunting, though. And L O L.
LoL indeed. As my grand dad always said, ya can’ fix stupid. Troll on buddy boy.
What a dolt
Blocked. Why didn’t I do that earlier?
Damn, he rocks the Mark III? Lucky!
“Graham was disruptive in that game, starting at DE and sliding inside as a DT in Nickel/Dime sets. He played pretty well as a rookie, but got hurt late in the year and that seemed to completely throw his career off track.”
Graham was moved around too much by idiot McDermott and then had his knee critically weakened from a cheapshot by Tyson Clabo in the Atlanta game before it gave way a few weeks later.
Clabo is a guy who I hope meets a very bad end in life. If you were watching that shot he put on Graham in 2010 you’d 100% know what I mean.
Would like to see video of that but I’m sure that’s unlikely
http://eaglesbloggerroom.blogspot.com/2010/10/eagles-sent-film-of-falcons-chop-block.html
This is the only record I have of somebody having video of it.
I didn’t mind the moving around JJ and later Sean McD did.
So given we need to give guys 3 full seasons to work out…………….here is the 2014 draft.
1 26 Marcus Smith DE Louisville
2 42 Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
3 86 Josh Huff WR Oregon
4 101 Jaylen Watkins CB Florida
5 141 Taylor Hart DE Oregon
5 162 Ed Reynolds DB Stanford
7 224 Beau Allen DT Wisconsin
Smith – functional at this point, but not 1st round production
Matthews – solid
Huff – TRASH
Watkins – brutally bad in pass coverage in safety, I guess he makes some contributions on special teams.
Hart – No desire to get on the field
Reynolds – we hardly knew ye
Allen – nice contributor for a 7th rounder. Might start here next year.
Here is 2015’s draft……….good grief
1 20 Nelson Agholor WR USC
2 47 Eric Rowe CB Utah
3 84 Jordan Hicks LB Texas
6 191 JaCorey Shepherd CB Kansas
6 196 Randall Evans CB Kansas State
7 237 Brian Mihalik DE Boston College
This hurts and is going to hamstring this team for a few years.
Is it bad they I loved the first 4 picks in 15?
No. How were any of us supposed to know that Schwartz wouldn’t like Rowe and that Agholor was going to under perform the scouting on him.
I don’t remember why anyone liked Agholor. He was never a dominant player in college. Low-ceiling, 2nd round kind of guy.
Sounded like everyone loved him (i didnt know him because after all of them and finally reggie bush the cheater id never take anyone rrom usc)
… i dont even care how Zac Efron got so ripped
Showed really good hands and snatched the ball out of the air and showed top notch short range acceleration. I think everyone thought Chip would find him some open space to shoot through with that acceleration. Shame he’s forgotten how to catch and plays with zero confidence these days.
Jernst wher you been, seems like ..did you .. not write in for a while
Just been busy recently, haven’t had as much time as normal. Plus, I haven’t been working as many nights, which provided me with a lot of time to bullshit on the internet. Good to be back though, man! Missed all you guys on here.
“Chip.” All you can say.
I don’t follow college at all. Once we draft guys (and other team’s rookies) I get pretty darn familiar with them. I don’t recall ever reading anything negative about Nelson AFTER we took him.
However, I have talked to a few guys I am friends with who obsess over college. They both said pretty much exactly what you just did. One guy said Nelson was more of just an athlete in college and he never saw him as a real NFL player.
Example of media group think I guess?
I don’t follow college ball, but I checked out his pre-scouting draft reports. No one projected him as a star; he was projected as a 2nd WR. Which is fine…(but obviously he’s more like a 4th WR right now). I’ve posted comparisons of his pre-draft scouting reports and Maclin’s, and they are night and day. Maclin was the explosive star-in-the-making weapon. I only mention Maclin because they have been compared for some reason.
I was stoked too. Rowe was one of my favorite players in the draft. I saw him as safety, not a CB. But, I loved that pick. I live in Austin and got to see Hicks play a bit when he was healthy and liked that pick as well and I think we al thought Shepherd had the chance to be a steal in the 6th. Another knee injury killed him. Agholor I didn’t know about, but EVERYONE thought he was a great pick. Shocked how bad that draft turned out.
Always enjoy your provoking assertions even when I don’t concur. Hicks is far and away the best player we have drafted since Fletcher Cox. If he continues to play at the level he has shown, I’ll live with being hamstrung.
I’d still contend that only getting one player long term player for your team in a given draft is really bad.
2011, 2012 drafts?
Think about this, MM. Cox was taken in 2012, Hicks in 2015. If our FO could get just one player as top-tier as those two every draft, we’d be slobbering with joy. If just the two years between those picks, we snagged two comparable players, rookie QB or not, we’d probably have won the division this year.
That Lane Johnson guy is pretty good when he isn’t in time-out. Real talk though, he might end up showing us he is the best tackle in the NFL next year.
I thought about LJ when I wrote that comment, and I would be ecstatic if your rosy vision comes to fruition, but it is rare to find OL who dominate right out of the gate. I think JP didn’t peak until he joined the Eagles. LJ has the potential to be that. So if LJ, Fletcher, and Hicks are top-tier, the jury is still out on Seumalo, Big V, and, to a certain extent, Wentz. If the latter progresses measurably in year two and either of the rookie OL’s become strong #1’s, to me that is evidence of diligent drafting.
Lane has had plenty of time to show that, and in limited action this year he did just that. Need to see more. You say rosy vision, I it’s just want I saw.
I honestly have not seen enough OL’s across the league to agree or disagree. I agree that he came back strong, and that is awesome.
Didn’t they trade 4th for a future 3rd? Have to factor that in. Also think they gave up too quickly on Rowe.
Yes, they did. Traded a mid-late 4th for a mid-early 3 the following year.
Hicks is the only one we hit on and he was the one the fans and media gave the team the most grief for.
I’ll still insist they could have gotten him later than they did and still gotten him and another player.
But you can’t knock the guy’s play.
Cannot see how you can say that – Bengals beat reporters said he was their pick the pick after if the Eagles didn’t take him, and that their coaches/front office were pretty frustrated by him being taken in front of them.
Because:
a) I doubt the veracity of that report because it seemed to only come from one Eagles reporter formally.
b) I saw the Bengals take Paul Dawson with there comp pick at the end of the round anyway and Dawson is 100% a Bengals type player, so I doubt they were really in on Hicks instead.
c) He was listed as 4th/5th round all over the place going into the draft. Even Gil Brandt, who knows Hicks well enough from Texas, expressed pleasant surprise on Sirius NFL that Hicks went “early” relative to where folks he talked to had him. Brandt’s top 100 players routinely get taken faster than anybody else’s.
Let’s also factor in that I’m extremely cheap and always want more for less and don’t believe in overpaying for any asset if I think I can get it lower given the market.
So next year these guys will be Chip’s only remaining NFL legacy? Rough Chippah.
More examples of giving up too early on players:
– Reynolds is starting for Browns
– Coleman for Panthers
– Demps for KC
Isn’t Demps on the Texans? That one was weird to me. He showed tons of potential in his rookie year and then in year 2, it was like “He’s not as good as Dawkins, get him out of here.” There may have been more to it like bad attitude, but it seemed like we gave up on him really quickly.
Yeah he’s in Houston now. He’s bounced around the league a lot and had a stop in Canada too I think. He’s played for KC, NYG, and now he’s with the Texans.
My lasting memory of Demps is him popping the Arizona QB for no apparent reason in a playoff game. He was gone the next season I believe.
Yeah, I remember that. I think he also misjudged a ball in the air and came in to try to intercept it but it went over his head for a long TD to Fitzgerald in that game.
I think we’ve had a couple safeties do that. I think Patrick Chung did that once.
Rowe.
It’s sad that our best pick from that draft is arguably the 7th rounder.
Brings back bad memories of the Kotite era.
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Best GM in my lifetime?
Ray Rhodes.
Dude knew how to draft hardnosed badasses, that’s for sure.
He really hooked Andy up.
Two things:
– I was overpaid by about 10 picks in my trade down with Tampa, but I’d still trade down from 15 in a heartbeat if the right guys are gone.
– We really should be picking 14 and I’m not accepting any rigged coin flip from the NFL that gives our rightful pick to Indy. F them!!!!
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): DeMarcus Walker, DE, Florida State (B)
Round 2 Pick 12: O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 19 (T.B.): Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 12: Quenton Nelson , OG, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12: Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Dylan Cole, OLB, Missouri State (B)
Round 5 Pick 12: Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State (A)
Round 6 Pick 12: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Aarion Penton, CB, Missouri (A)
After watching Chris Godwin in the Rosebowl, I’d be thrilled to get him in the 6th.
If you watch Penn State’s WRs / TEs; they all hands catch and high point the football when its thrown. And often those throws are inaccurate and lack any zip.
And I doubt Godwin winds up lasting into the 6th round on draft day, but I’ll take him where I can.
Can we hire Penn State’s WR coach to replace Lewis?
I believe he will..his other breakdowns weren’t really pretty.
I agree with most of that. He also has concentration lapses, but he did put on quite a show at the Rose Bowl. If he could capture some of that drive on a consistent basis he could be something…or he could continue being inconsistent and be out in 3 years.
Corey Davis WR ??
At what pick would you say he’s worth it?
I think Corey Davis will be a star WR, so I’d be fine with taking him at #14 overall.
I need to see his value established a tad higher before I’d prefer him at 14 rather than in a trade down.
In my basic research. ..
Seems like Corey Davis is projected to be 5th best WR .. i like him 3rd best maybe 2nd .. huge hands … 1 handed grabs us the future…
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2nd round wud be a dream but dont think he lasts past 1st rd .. if there isnt a freak DB, LB or DE available at 14/15 I say go.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a player who is constantly as happy as Brandon Graham. The guy tears his ACL and still keeps a positive attitude. He is asked to change positions by Chip and keeps a positive attitude. He is called a bust by fans and still keeps a positive attitude. It’s awesome to see him be recognized for his game.
I was with you until the fan thing. Does he actually read Igglesblitz?
Actually that probably should have read beat writers.
Dude he was hammered harder than MS2 ever was. I remember comments from him that he was aware of it as well.
hm, okay.
Really good observation, and something to share with your kids (for those that have them)… Especially in an age where so much is chalked up to circumstances and one’s degree of “privilege.”
The #1 seed in the NFC is the evil one whose name we dare not speak. Their record in the East is only 3-3. I wonder how rare this is, that a high seed has such a mediocre record in their own Division?
The Division was actually competitive this year and teams in the NFCE always play each other stuff. Almost had 3 teams make the playoffs.
Don’t forget they didn’t even try last week against us
Our first loss to them could have gone the other way very easily too.
Competitive Division. I just dont think it says anything negative about Dallas. Its OK to hate them for being Dallas, but it doesn’t take away from them being good this year.
Good point. I was pondering if the #1 seed is usually more dominant.
Don’t get me wrong. I really hope they are fraudulent as well
I feel like the top seed usually comes out of a shitty division.
This is one of the things the NFL gets right in terms of structure and scheduling… Definitely contributes to popularity and (therefore) revenue $.
rumor has it we’re looking at kenny stills.
Please be true.
There is your field stretcher. Screw Mesean.
My offseason plan (Will probably repost at a later time):
Current cap room (10M with carryover– 176M adjusted cap for 2017)
Pre- Free Agency:
Trying to find trade partners for the following (If possible– then again I thought trading Maxwell and Murray last year was near impossible. Keep in mind new teams do not take on the full cap hit. The players pro-rated signing business has already been paid by us so the cap hit for the new team is smaller):
Player– (cap savings)
Barwin– (7.75M) : Don’t wish to restructure. I love him as a Philadelphian. He is not a solid pure pass rusher. Can we get a 4th or 5th for him?
Chase Daniel– (6M only if traded): Can’t just cut
Ryan Mathews– (4M) : Bye Ryan, can’t stay healthy. Draft loaded with RBs. Try and trade him, otherwise cut if we can’t get anything
Leodis McKelvin– (3.25M): We may get a bag of footballs or someone with a neck brace that also cannot turn their head.
Restructure:
Jason Peters (11.2 cap hit way too much for his age/production)
NOT Connor Barwin unless it is extremely cheap
Free Agency:
1 WR: Stills? Pryor isn’t getting loose from Browns. Alshon too expensive, and Desean is old.
1 CB: Kirkpatrick (CIN), Buoye (HOU)
cheaper backup QB if Chase is gone
OL depth: dunno if we are moving on from Kelce this year
Post June 1st cut: Mychal Kendricks if we get a LB
Draft:
Round One: Reuben Foster, Dalvin Cook, Corey Davis, Teez Tabor, Mike Williams, Derek Barnett
OR move back for Sidney Jones, John Ross
wouldn’t mind a double dip at Corner or WR. We could use a nickle badly and gives us insurance in a rich CB draft. Tired of Malcolm Jenkins moving to the slot and Jaylen Watkins getting toasted. Obviously WR will be necessary next year if Jordan leaves
Draft Needs; CB(2), WR(2), LB, Edge Rusher, DT, Backup QB late, OL depth, TE (replace Celek)
So many ways to go. I think we need to go after BPA. We flat-out need an influx in talent offensively and defensively. Especially for Wentz’s development.
Lastly, Get a decent WRs coach and CBs or a coach that teaches them to turn their freaking heads!
Also note that LB may become much more pressing if/when Bradham is suspended for being a dumbass.
I also think Lane Johnson’s contract should be restructured.. Don’t know if that will happen given relative leverage of the two sides, but if I were Jeff/Howie, I would try. And I would unashamedly use the media to pressure and/or expose him if he resists.
Maybe you could do a little restructure to give him back some guaranteed at a cost of a few $$ but there is no way we are going to cut him so why would he accept the restructure?
Like I said, “I don’t know if it will happen given relative leverage of the two sides..”
I believe someone here posted that he essentially fore-fitted the guarantees in his contract moving forward by getting suspended again.
If true, restructuring is something he is probably really interested in.
Don’t agree with Peters. He was still a top 15 or top 10 LT last year, and those guys make $11mil+. We need him back and it makes no sense for either side to add years or guaranteed money at this point so there is little to no basis for a deal. Maybe if we were a real superbowl contender he might be willing to give up a chunk if we used that money agressively in free agency but we are not so why give money back to the Eagles?
Kendricks isn’t just staying because of the amount of dead money cutting him would cost. He continued improving his play as the season went on, and was actually plays really well by the end.
That picture of Princess Di… Still can’t believe she’s gone
Re: The Princess & The Jacket
Someone on the Lurie P.R. team must have touched up that photo to make it look like she’s wearing MIDNIGHT green.
She was wearing Kelly Green — and asked the Eagles for a team jacket (made special for her) because she liked the Eagles’ team colors.
Put Wentz in Kelly green and let him win a title . . . like Dutch did.
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Here’re a couple other photos of The Princess & The Jacket . . . the real jacket.
http://i.imgur.com/uXYOSLW.jpg
http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/09/diana-eagles9.jpg
Can we PLEASE rightfully return to these wonderful colors and logo!? Switching to these add at least 2 wins automatically, its science.
They don’t call you “Nailed It!” for nothing.
*blushing* thank you, thank you
Last time we wore Kelly Green was when Vick got hurt and poor Leonard Weaver had his career ended, let’s not tempt fate again eh?
It was Kolb who was injured.
But Weaver, too.
On the other hand . . . 3 championships in Kelly green.
I’m biased because I only became a fan around 2001, so all I’ve ever known is midnight green, and kelly green seems a bit plain and cheap somehow to me.
But I can well understand that those blessed with longer experience have many fond memories of the kelly green uniforms.
On the other hand, the last championship was over 50 years ago now, even if it was our own Lombardi trophy.
C-57:
Well said. Totally get it.
Unfortunately we can’t even do them as a throwback anymore due to the rule about keeping the same helmet the whole season. It would look awfully strange to wear kelly green jerseys with midnight green helmets.
The Rams used three different colored decals this year (gold, yellow, white) on their helmets.
So if decals can be changed, why not a quick paint job?
Easier to change the decals than to strip and repaint 53 helmets?
All I got.
Okay. Lets make a giant helmet covering decal for one game. It might look a little weird, but you could do it.
The midnight green is the shell and not the decal. They could switch to a white, gray, or black helmet to go that route, but that would look pretty strange, too.
The rule on 1 helmet governs the shell, right?
Any rule against painting it?
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Once upon a time (1969-72), the Birds played with white helmets and Kelly green jerseys.
Let’s do it!
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/839/349/Jackson_Harold4_Eagles_display_image.jpg
I could be down with white helmets, keep the wings gray/silver, white jersey, green pants. But that’s just basically Oregon’s jerseys from a couple years ago.
Oregon was wearing the Eagles’ 1969-72 uniforms.
Didn’t work for either group.
Had me googling uniforms all day at work, ha. This website seems pretty comprehensive for those following along at home: http://blog.heritagesportsart.com/2010/08/philadelphia-eagles-uniform-and-team.html
I’m kind of partial to this one from 1943:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CFT0NSs_elM/T60NVs_NG0I/AAAAAAAADxY/TC70J3qf4Jk/s1600/PhiladelphiaEagles1943.jpg
Cool.
Apparently we did actually do this, but I don’t know when.
http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/vick-kelly-midnight-green1.jpg
Looks pretty good..
The reverse would look more odd.
But, hell, go with the while helmets and green jerseys
Pulitzer winning post.
I want one.
Ok, Dalvin Cook is pretty legit. I’m not a huge fan of drafting RB’s in the first but when a guy can literally line up out wide against an LB and then torch him deep for 40+ yards, it gets me interested (I dont think Fournette or Elliot could make it look so easy).. Seems like a whole package guy and while I see some McCoy in him, I dont see all the runs for losses looking for the big play. Remember how Tommy would always say about McCoy something to the effect of,” Stop pressing for huge plays. Take what the defense gives you and the long runs will come.” I feel like that’s what Cook does. In regards to the West Coast offense he seems like the perfect fit as others have said before. I don’t remember a RB with better hands than Cook. Decent blocker, excellent speed, excellent size and I get his 3 cone time will be pretty good too.
Yeah i think Cook is perfect fit for this O. Check out Wayne Gallman Clemson. Reminds me of Jamaal Charles/McCoy
Really? He’s like 6’1″ I dont see the quickness, he looks like more of a lumberer, granted I haven’t watched a ton of him.
Doesnt have that elite speed of Charles but if you see Charles play he weaves in n out of holes. Has light feet n some lateral agility n jukes like McCoy. Check his hit n spin move killer! Tough runner too.
Gallman reminds me alot of shady. He’s not the most physical guy and isn’t quite as agile as Shady but two jump cuts and eight yards later, the comp makes alot of sense.
So that means we won’t get him. #damnit
Yes. I really hope the Eagles take the 1st round plunge for Cook. He could be the spark plug that ignites the whole Offense and an amazing boost to Carson’s development. It would also be sweet to knock Zeke off the pedestal.
Would you guys go for CB Adoree Jackson not the best CB but has that playmaking ability n upside. Tyreek Hill play at ST might make him more appealing. Or CB Quincy Wilson looks to be a shutdown CB. If both were there in 2nd round who would you pick?
Raiders starting RT Austin Howard was signed by us as UDFA….. sigh
I remember thinking he had starting potential
He wouldn’t really play here and is likely worse than Big V anyway.
Don’t get it when people say these things.
The Raiders developed him, why couldn’t we?
The Curse.
khalil mack looks like a grown man playing against pop warner kids; the way he’s taking guys down.
And then you have the total opposite; Many Licks Watson starting for the Raiders at LT. That dude was garbage at Florida State, was an even bigger reach where they too him, and shocks me he’s still in the NFL.
No is doesn’t give any more hope for MS2, but maybe it does for NA. I remember when it was assumed WR (or most positions for that matter) needed two seasons to develop. Nelson has shown flashes from day one. Has the pedigree form college as well if you will.
I can’t stand NA as much as the next guy, but it gives me hope.
We have seen other highly touted guys at the position take a few years to bloom as well. Roddy White, and Crabtree come to mind.
Ags is in a somewhat different boat than BG. He did get injured last year, and went through a coaching change, but Pederson has given him every chance possible to succeed. In fact I think there are times where he has tried to force it to Ags to get him TDs to get his confidence going. But Ags has come up small time and time again. There was the one TD he had against the giants where they were so unconcerned about him that he was able to get behind the D and he actually held into the ball. Its bad when the ball was in the air and I realized it was going to him and my first thought was “oh no he’s gonna drop it.” I do think that the source of his failure is mental not physical. So it’s really hard to say he’ll never be successful, but at this point he has no one to blame but himself. I can see the Eagles cutting him after next year and the Patriots picking him up and he plays well as a decent #2. At this point though it’s fair to call him a bust.
Well yeah. That’s why it only gives some hope.
Really happy for BG this year. This is a great point Tommy made that he kept working at it and his hard work is finnally paid off. The worst is probably having to deal with the busy label. It was obvious he was talented, and never really got a fair chance under Washburn or Kelly. I never liked the bust label on him. In the sense that the first round pick wasn’t producing much for 5 years … Yeah the pick was a bust in a way, but not BG’s fault. I completely believe Kelly wanted to cut him. If Kelly didn’t have the perfect size and shape for a position, the player was useless to him. That’s the quickest way to failure in the NFL.