Some RB Talk

Posted: February 14th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 102 Comments »

The Eagles will need to do something at RB this offseason. Ryan Mathews was the primary back in 2016, but he will be cut in the near future. The team has a good group of runners in Darren Sproles, Wendell Smallwood, Kenjon Barner, Byron Marshall and Terrell Watson, but there is no lead dog.

The Eagles have some options. They could add a high quality veteran to be “the man” for the foreseeable future. They can spend an early pick on a RB. They can add a RB in the mid to late rounds and try to build a RB by committee type of group.

The team could also take a chance on a veteran who has boom or bust potential. Eddie Lacy would be an interesting target of this variety.

Lacy is a free agent this offseason, and while you never know about these things, he’ll probably have limited value on the NFL’s open market. Teams are aware of his weight problems, and he’s coming off an ankle injury that required surgery and ended his 2016 season after five games.

So there’s a good chance Lacy will have to sign a one-year deal to prove to the league his ankle is fine and he can get, and keep, the weight off.

I contacted an agent who has studied the running back market because of a client hitting free agency, and he guessed that Lacy will get a deal worth about $2 million plus plenty of incentives. Maybe it will end up being more, but if it’s even near that range, that’s low risk for the Packers.

It’s worth a last shot because Lacy is one of general manager Ted Thompson’s most talented picks of the last several drafts and at age 26 (27 in June) isn’t quite old even for a position that ages like dog years. When he’s healthy and not carrying too many extra pounds, he can be a difference maker.

If the Packers do it, they should make a couple of commitments as well. One is ensuring they’re not in any way enabling Lacy. The other is something Thompson failed to do last year: Hedge the bet by drafting a running back.

There’s reason to be a Lacy skeptic. He had everything to play for (i.e., a new contract) in 2016, but after losing weight early in the spring he slowly put it back on until by the start of the season he looked like he was pretty much back where he’d ended 2015. Then several months of limited activity after ankle surgery made the hill climb even higher. Based on his last sighting during media availability in the locker room in January, he if anything has added a few pounds.

Why would you want a fat guy with a gimpy ankle?

Lacy is talented. He is a big, power runner who would be interesting to pair with Sproles and Smallwood. Lacy is very physical and that’s something Mathews brought to the offense last year. It would be good to have a physical presence in the run game.

This would be a complete roll of the dice. Lacy might not work out at all. But you only try this on a cheap, one-year deal. You see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

I will admit to kicking around the idea of Adrian Peterson, who the Vikings may be cutting. He’s going to turn 32 in 5 weeks and is a declining player. Adding him would hardly be building around Carson Wentz. At the same time, it would be interesting to see how AP would do playing behind a good OL and in an offense with a functional passing game. The days of feeding him the ball 25 times a game are over. If you made him part of an offense instead of The Offense, AP might have a couple of good years left.

A team that is a serious contender is more likely to look at AP as a short term fit. The Eagles want to be better in 2017, but also have an eye on the future as well. Calling this a long shot would be putting it mildly. Still, it is fun to close your eyes and imagine AP wearing midnight green and just running over Dallas Cowboys.

I know more than a few people would say just draft Dalvin Cook and you’ve solved RB for the next 5 to 7 years. This isn’t a great RB class, but there are some very interesting options, early and late. I do hope the Eagles go after someone with some size/strength. The run game was very impressive at times last year. Sproles and Smallwood have some shake ‘n bake. I think the focus should be on a more downhill runner with some pop. Cook is so good that he can do it all. I just don’t know if the Eagles will like him enough to spend a Top 15 pick on him.

I don’t think the team has to invest heavy resources at RB this year. They have enough talent that they could have a functional running game as is. Obviously you’d like more than that. The beauty of RB is that you can find great players all over. Ezekiel Elliot was a Top 5 pick. The Eagles found great players after that, LeSean McCoy in the 2nd round and Brian Westbrook in the 3rd. Some elite runners weren’t even drafted. Priest Holmes and Arian Foster were both UDFAs.

Because of the RBs already on the roster, the Eagles can take a chance this year if they want. Darren Sproles says this will be his final year. That means next year there will be more pressure to have a good player to pair with Smallwood. The Eagles could decide they want to see what they have in Smallwood, Barner and Marshall. Sometimes that answer is right there in front of you.

Lots of options.


102 Comments on “Some RB Talk”

  1. 1 makarov123 said at 12:36 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    He’s young, but I think Joe Mixon could be the best RB in this class. I’ve only seen him in 5-6 games, but what I’ve seen has been something else. A big frame RB who can get short yardage, has patience, can make cuts, is elusive in the open field, and can make one handed catches. Pass blocking isn’t quite there, but he’s willing at least.

  2. 2 laeagle said at 12:44 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    No way this team is drafting Mixon. Nor would I want them to. I can’t get behind a guy like that. After cutting Huff, you really think that Lurie is going to sign off on drafting Mixon?

  3. 3 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 9:12 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    No way the Eagles bring in Mixon. He might not even get drafted.

  4. 4 pricebe said at 12:51 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I thought this was supposed to be a ridiculously stacked year for RB…

  5. 5 anon said at 1:24 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    yeah not sure where he was going there or why we’re reading a whole article about eddie lacy. ap would be interesting, he was the 2015 rushing champ…

  6. 6 Sean Stott said at 2:30 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Crazy idea for RB: Keep Mathews.

  7. 7 Corry said at 8:26 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I don’t think it’s crazy except for his cost this year. He’s not worth $4M with his inability to stay healthy.

  8. 8 Mac said at 9:30 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Didn’t he almost die last year?

  9. 9 GermanEagle said at 7:35 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Let’s play a game and say the Steelers won’t tag L Bell. Mmmmmmmmhhhh

  10. 10 Ryan Rambo said at 10:34 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Lol ok I’ll play. What’s his cost? Could we afford him? Would we be interested?

  11. 11 GermanEagle said at 5:00 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    No clue. Lol

  12. 12 Sean Brock said at 2:39 AM on February 16th, 2017:

    Bell is an awesome back. Best in the league when healthy. Problem is he’s never been able to stay healthy and he’s been suspended under the substance abuse policy. Not worth the huge money it would take. Not even close.

  13. 13 Mac said at 5:23 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I’m under the impression that Pittsburgh has adjusted their blocking scheme to accommodate his running style. If that is true, then I would have doubts about his ability to replicate that success in Philly.

    He’s more likely to want to go smoke some weed in Denver or Seattle anyway.

  14. 14 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:18 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Draft a RB. Its that simple. No reason to even think about buying one.

  15. 15 eagleyankfan said at 8:36 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Eagles drafted one last year. Problem already solved?

  16. 16 Sb2bowl said at 12:05 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    We’ve got Sproles, Barner (RFA), Smallwood and Marshall on the roster. I’m inclined to think we draft someone in the Sproles mold, or sign one as an UFA.

    With all of the holes and lack of talent depth on this team, where does RB rank on the priority list?

  17. 17 eagleyankfan said at 2:35 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Agreed, it’s low. And my point is, maybe it’s already solved for this year 🙂

  18. 18 eagleyankfan said at 8:34 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Mixed feelings on this…anybody who does fantasy knows the Eddie Lacy drama. From a distant view, EL seems to be a ‘if I’m motivated, I’ll play my heart out. If I’m not motivated, well, my ankle hurts’.

    1 year cheap deal? Why not take the chance? A motivated EL and Sproles would give a thunder and lightening type of attack….

  19. 19 Dave said at 8:37 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    All things being equal, I’d rather have Ryan Mathews back at $2M than a lazy Lacy.

  20. 20 Corry said at 8:39 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I’d be OK with Lacy if he can be had for cheap (which sounds like he could be), though if at all possible, I’d rather have Mathews on a similar deal ($2M with a bunch of incentives). Neither guy is super reliable but Mathews at least knows the offense.

    Either way, they still need to spend a pick on a running back. With Sproles on his way out, we need to think about the future.

  21. 21 Sb2bowl said at 10:55 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Mathews may not be ready to play at the beginning of the season, he had pretty extensive surgery on his neck.

    He may be forced to retire, I think that ship has sailed.

    Lacy may not be a bad option.

  22. 22 ChoTime said at 8:47 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I don’t understand why some people are talking about drafting an RB high. Is it because the Cowboys had a successful year after getting Elliot? Our RBs are not one of our weakest areas IMO.

  23. 23 Ark87 said at 9:14 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    yeah yeah, but can we talk about pronouncing RB as “Arby” instead of “running back”.

    Whatever the case, our RB’s better pass inspection and make us some dope roast beef sammiches this year or I want them gone.

  24. 24 Corry said at 9:14 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    You need breakfast.

  25. 25 Ark87 said at 9:16 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    they didn’t pass inspection 🙁

  26. 26 ChoTime said at 9:21 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    An “a” vs “an” joke? I approve!

  27. 27 Ark87 said at 9:26 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    It should be noted that I agree with the original sentiment, our RB’s should be adequate with an O-line and a passing game, which I think could both use the help much more than the RB’s.

  28. 28 Ryan Rambo said at 9:16 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Shady was a 2nd round pick with good success here. Westbrook and Murray were 3rd rounders. You don’t have to get one in the 1st, but I’m tired of hoping 5th rounders and UDFA’s become legit starters. I don’t think Doug will take a RB in the 1st.

  29. 29 Mac said at 9:32 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Would I be in exothermic or endothermic hell if the Eagles draft a running back in round 1?

  30. 30 ChoTime said at 2:08 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Kind of random, but I like it.

  31. 31 Insomniac said at 11:25 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Small sample size but Wentz doesn’t seem like a guy who could do it all on his own so far. A RB is still a weapon and if he’s the BPA then why not take him high?

  32. 32 ChoTime said at 12:39 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Yeah, BPA is cool, it’s just a devalued position IMO so 1st round RBs are usually not worth it.

  33. 33 bsuperfi said at 9:45 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Picking up a workhorse RB is all about timing to me. RBs tend to play effectively earlier in their career than some other positions–like WR or CB. I’m all about getting a WR early in the draft to grow with Wentz, but CB makes obvious sense too. We’ve seen OL play well early on, but it does take time to build chemistry.

    If we’re starting on a 3 year plan right now I’m waiting until to invest in RB until year 2… if at all. While I think there’s almost always better value at another position high in the draft, there’s something to giving Wentz support as he develops. We just need to balance that development with upgrading talent at the same time to open a window to make deep playoff runs.

  34. 34 bdbd20 said at 9:50 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I wonder if Alfred Morris will hit the market.

    Morris, Sproles, Smallwood, Barner/Watson/rookie.

    That would be pretty nice.

  35. 35 xmbk said at 10:51 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I like Morris, but the draft is the way to go for RB. Also think his lack of pass catching skills is a big mark down for Peterson.

  36. 36 anon said at 11:05 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    no he was only good running in zone schemes

  37. 37 bdbd20 said at 1:46 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    So, we sign him and run some zone?

  38. 38 Mitchell said at 10:14 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Was watching Sidney Jones last night and came away impressed. Has, in my opinion, amazing lateral agility and flexibility. I liked the way he rides WR to the sidelines taking them out of plays. He is also aggressive and confident which I’m sure Schwartz will love. He is a “stick in the hip pocket” kind of corner who I think can play man really well. I do have a pick of a concern about him playing off (early in his career) due to him only being 180 lbs. I wonder if when WR’s get some steam they will be able to bully him more but off the line he doesn’t really show he is a lighter player. He’s patient and actually turns to look for the ball. It’s such an amazing thing to see a CB actually turn to locate the football…. As a sidenote: Budda Baker and the whole Washington defense flys ALL over the field. I know you sometimes have to take defensive players on a good defense with a grain of salt (i.e. Humphrey) but Jones is consistently on an island shutting people down. He may fall a bit because of the whole weight thing and he did get pushed around by JuJu a bit but you’re gonna lose some battles regardless. He’s still a young guy and even if he gets up to 190, its probably going to be enough. I do think adding Jones would be a good idea because in the future I think he can keep up with the receivers of the NFCE. He’s gonna have to bulk up a bit to handle Dez but I like Jones in the first quite a bit. I guess you could say I’m……Jones’in for him…… A game clip with time stamps from his game against Arizona: :19 Watch this patience as the play develops, waits for the play, aggressively takes on defender and finishes with the tackle. :2:42 takes the WR downfield, doesn’t give him any separation, TURNS HIS HEAD, easy PD. 3:04: Knows the situation on the goal line, watches qb, breaks on ball, another easy PD. Man crushes for this draft include Sidney Jones, Corey Davis and Zay Jones.

  39. 39 xmbk said at 10:53 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Really hope it plays out that at least 2 high round CB’s fall to the Eagles. 1 and 2 would be fine, though I agree that it would be fun to root for Davis.

  40. 40 Insomniac said at 11:23 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    How he runs and how much he weighs at the combine is going to be the biggest key. If he’s running like 4.5 at 180 pounds then that’s a red flag for me.

  41. 41 Mitchell said at 12:20 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I’m not gonna fall into the combine physical attributes trap, you know? If he plays well, he plays well. I would put WAY more stock into the drills but 4.5 @ 180 doesn’t look to good on paper!

  42. 42 Insomniac said at 1:47 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    This is why I don’t envy real scouts. It’s way too hard to predict how well a great college player is going to be at the next level. Bad combine or not and all.

  43. 43 Sb2bowl said at 11:42 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Big crush on Corey Davis; despite the level of competition, he looks exceptional. If he was playing in a different conference, he’s probably be a Top 5 talent or close to in this draft.

    If it comes down to Davis or Jones on the board, who would you take?

  44. 44 Mitchell said at 12:21 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Thats really tough. I have to say Davis because I think he and Wentz can grow together and be a formidable duo. Everything from last year on out is about Wentz. The Eagles are going to live and die by him so he needs weapons and protection.

  45. 45 Sb2bowl said at 12:30 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I’m with you there- add in that the overall CB talent appears to be slightly greater than the overall WR talent. Both have depth in this draft, but I like the potential impact of Day 2 CB’s better than the WR options.

    In other words, I tend to think we’ll focus more on Wentz’s weapons (WW from here on out) as you pointed out- and back load with team talent and depth issues.

  46. 46 xmbk said at 5:14 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    FA could make this a moot discussion. If they sign Jeffery (and I hope they do not), then another #1 on a wideout is just too many resource for one position, even given Wentz’s development.

  47. 47 Sb2bowl said at 10:36 AM on February 15th, 2017:

    I really hope they don’t go that direction, to me Jeffery just isn’t worth the money. I’d settle for a high round draft pick (rounds 1-3) to develop while our 2nd tier level FA’s pick up the bulk of the responsibilities.

    Remember, we need someone to lead this corpse. Matthews makes for an intriguing slot option, but I’d like to see Agholor get some shots in there too- his quick twitch muscles may benefit him working underneath.

    If we can upgrade our 1st spot (say Kenny Britt, or Stills- hell, even Jackson would compute for now) with a guy to groom (draft pick) and the remainder of our bodies, we can be alright at the WR spot.

    The cupboard isn’t nearly as dry there compared to our horrible CB depth. We could probably draft 2 Cb’s in the early rounds, and sign a couple as priority free agents. We have Mills right now, that’s it. Brooks is recovering from injury, and Leodis is gone. Nolan also.

  48. 48 xmbk said at 10:49 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    Seems like a pretty decent RB draft, even if it isn’t “great”. No way AP comes here, just not worth what he will get paid. Someone is dropping 6+ million on him, and the Eagles have bigger holes and not enough cap space to indulge in that.

  49. 49 Insomniac said at 11:34 AM on February 14th, 2017:

    I agree with Tommy, the RB class isn’t that great. When Freeman and Chubb decided to go back to school, it became pretty top heavy. I’m just not sure if there’s a workhorse back that can do it all outside of Fournette, Cook, and Mixon.

  50. 50 xmbk said at 5:10 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I think you (and many others) are underestimating McCaffrey. Also think Foreman has workhorse potential, and there will be a couple of surprises. That’s a pretty solid class.

  51. 51 Insomniac said at 5:54 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I think McCaffery is being fairly rated, he doesn’t project as well as the other guys ahead of him.

    Foreman has the potential but he’s pretty much a complementary back as of now.

  52. 52 xmbk said at 9:10 AM on February 15th, 2017:

    McCaffery has all those intangibles that people point to for both hits and busts. Vision, leadership, ethic, etc. So hard to measure those.

  53. 53 Insomniac said at 12:27 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    Sure those are nice bonuses if you can play but it doesn’t really matter if you can’t. Take Jordan Matthews for example, great guy, balled out in college and all but he has clear limitations.

  54. 54 xmbk said at 1:15 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    Matthews was still a solid pickup. Nothing wrong with a guy like him in college. McCaffery had an even better college career, with more impressive tape. I don’t think you could say either one of them can’t play.

  55. 55 Mitchell said at 7:27 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Kareem Hunt my man. He does it all.

  56. 56 Insomniac said at 9:56 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I like Hunt, I would grab him in the 4th if possible.

  57. 57 BobSmith77 said at 12:12 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I like Cook too but drafting him in the 1st round has a real opportunity cost too given even more pressing needs at WR, CB, and even OL especially if they dump Kelce. Eagles desperately need an upgrade at RB though as they arguably a bottom 5 group in the NFL right now even with Sproles.

    When Matthews was healthy and effective last year and it kept Pederson from getting super pass happy, this offense wasn’t that bad. I guess it comes to an issue of where the Eagles prioritize this offseason on offense because they can’t address all of the issues in one offseason. Really have to focus on either WR or RB.

    I still want them to take the best player available when they draft this year in the first few rounds. This team’s biggest issue right now is not enough overall talent across the board and rather they take the players they think are the most talented even at positions where they don’t necessary perceive a need including TE.

  58. 58 Sb2bowl said at 12:54 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I’m hoping that Howie has learned his limitations as a talent/player evaluator; hopefully the board will be set by Douglas and his team, and it’ll be up to Howie to get maximum value and impact with the resources that are at his disposal. It’ll take a year or two to get the process ironed out, but if he can let other people do the job they were hired to do- we have a good chance. Not many GM’s wheel and deal like Howie.

    Agreed with the talent issue which plagues this team- we really cut the roots so to speak when Chip was here, and we are suffering because of it. Looking back, he made some horrendous moves. At the time, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But he should have never been given personnel control.

    If there is a GM that can read the NFL landscape, its Howie. Specifically with the QB evaluation of last year, and noting that a number of teams would be fighting over scraps coming out of college. We need that same kind of consistency in the next few drafts to really be a contender.

  59. 59 ChoTime said at 12:37 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    OT: Ciara is a beautiful woman, but doesn’t she look too much like Kobe?

  60. 60 Sean Stott said at 1:32 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    in that picture, yes

  61. 61 ChoTime said at 2:05 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    She’s showing up on Youtube whenever I go there. And I’ve never seen her before (I live under a rock), and I’m thinking, “Is that Kobe’s daughter or something?” It’s true that I scrolled through Google images trying to find the one that looked the most like him for effect, though. 🙂

  62. 62 Tumtum said at 1:34 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Thanks for ruining this for me.

  63. 63 scratcherk said at 12:45 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    When you look at this QB class, it just makes you appreciate the Eagles more for anticipating this and making their move for Carson last year. Bravo Howie.

  64. 64 ChoTime said at 12:51 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Not that you’re necessarily wrong, but doesn’t it usually take a few years to evaluate a draft class, let alone before it even happens?

  65. 65 Sb2bowl said at 12:59 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I think what Scratch is trying to say is this–

    Regardless of how Wentz turns out, Howie and the team identified their need, read the NFL landscape, and made the move to get their guy. The next year or two don’t have a lot of perceived QB talent coming out of college compared to the NFL teams that are going to need someone to lead their franchise.

    In other words, supply and demand. Supply dries up, the cost goes up exponentially. We were able to allocate resources which overall aren’t that costly when compared to what the market may be in the next few years.

    These QB’s likely have less than 4 years left with their current team. Not including teams that need QB’s this year.

    I think it was MMQB that did a piece which stated roughly 5 out of the 32 NFL teams don’t need to really consider drafting “their guy” or a highly rated developmental QB within the next 3 years. Think about that– the market will be reset again, and Howie was able to get in front of it for the time being.

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 1:17 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Yup and why last offeason was still successful despite some moves that stunk (Curry resigning, Daniel signing) and were mediocre including some of the trades they made.

    Eagles have their guy to build around for the first time since McNabb in ’00 and really just need to spend the next 2 years accomplishing that task.

  67. 67 Sb2bowl said at 1:22 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I like Chase, but its tough to allocate resources like that to a player mostly in a backup role. However, a lot of “ifs” go into the equation and “if” things turned out differently, Chase could be seen as a bargain.

    Curry is a challenging case. I’m not sure what to make of him- at first I thought it was his knee injury, but he never seemed to round into form as the season progressed. Hell, even with Barwin disappearing at times, Curry was still unable to crack the starting lineup.

    The trades are a judgment call- Maxwell is playing “better” than he did here, but he wasn’t a fit in this town. Kiko is as dumb as a box of rocks, and Schwartz already knew of him from Buffalo. Murray came back with a vengeance, but that was sort of unexpected and he hated Philly- and Philly hated him.

    We got ahead on the tackle market with Johnson, and the TE market with Ertz and those contracts. BG is a bargain compared to his production, so things work out with him and Curry.

  68. 68 BobSmith77 said at 1:24 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Your right and Roseman got the big picture issues largely right & some good luck when Minnesota traded for Bradford.

  69. 69 ChoTime said at 2:03 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I think I got it, you’re evaluating the process rather than the results (which haven’t come in yet). I can see your point, and I do like what Howie did. That being said, and I said it with the Sixers, is that process can’t really be judged IMO because many of the variables are hidden to the general public, and when it comes down to it, it’s _talent_ not perceived cleverness that counts.

  70. 70 CrackSammich said at 11:00 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Sure, talent is the outcome, but the fact that there are so many websites about who the best talent is is proof that the best anyone can do is make educated guesses. The beauty of The Process or Sabermetrics, or whatever else, is that they’re trying to stack the deck in our favor. If and when The Process fails, it’s not because it was wrong to do, but because it’s subject to the same chance every other method is.

  71. 71 scratcherk said at 1:14 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Sb2 expressed it much better than I did.

    I agree though that final eval will be results based. But for now we can only judge based on Howie’s maneuvering within the available QB market.

  72. 72 PacificPurl said at 4:36 AM on February 15th, 2017:

    In Philly it takes 6 games.

  73. 73 scratcherk said at 12:45 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    What round will Butt go in, ya’think?

  74. 74 scratcherk said at 12:46 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Lastly, why have we only cut one person so far?

  75. 75 Dave said at 1:34 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Howie’s probably trying to trade everyone.

  76. 76 Nick C said at 1:58 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Exactly. The fact that we haven’t heard of Barwin or Mathews cut gives us hope that there will be even a minimal return or move up in a round.

    Side note- I will ecstatic if we can trade Chase Daniel. 8M is way too much to pay a freaking QB coach. DePhillipo or Reich (what does he even do?) can watch tape with Carson if he really needs a buddy that bad.

  77. 77 Rellihcs said at 2:11 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    With all due respect folks, its February

  78. 78 Nick C said at 2:12 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    What else do you propose we talk about?

  79. 79 Rellihcs said at 4:24 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    You can talk about anything you like, but the reason few moves have been made is simple: the Superbowl was barely two weeks ago, moves are very rarely made this early – at all. To me it’s like having a newborn and asking why it’s not talking yet.

  80. 80 Nick C said at 3:47 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    Moves are rarely made this time of year because the New League Year does not start until March 9.

  81. 81 Rellihcs said at 3:59 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    There you go.

  82. 82 eagleyankfan said at 2:23 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    you mean — trade the one main guy Pederson wanted here? he’s not going anywhere…

  83. 83 Tumtum said at 1:33 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    This is the second cut that Tommy has all but guaranteed. I like it!

    He really is getting into the “in-the-know” crowd down in Mobile!

  84. 84 eagleyankfan said at 2:24 PM on February 14th, 2017:

  85. 85 Ryan Rambo said at 3:05 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Mike Mayock drops his pre-Combine top 5 at every position…..

  86. 86 GENETiC-FREAK said at 3:44 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Early in the season this was supposed to be a strong RB class. Now its not?? Only names gone are Freeman and Chubb.

  87. 87 Dave said at 7:02 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    It doesn’t seem that long ago that I kept hearing Leonard Fournette was the next AP. Now Mayock has Fournette as his #2 RB and recently AC informed us he has no “nift”.

    RBs get a lot of hype for TDs and long runs. Sometimes when the scouts put on the tape they find that running through 5 yard wide holes untouched to the end zone is more about the blockers and scheme than the player.

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 10:12 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    He has some nift, he just doesn’t prefer to use it. He’s still pretty special just like Dalvin cook is.

    Well you have to locate the hole or else you’ll end up like Bryce Brown and Eagles’s Demarco Murray.

  89. 89 BobSmith77 said at 6:16 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    “EAGLES SEASON ticketholders found out recently that Bird watching
    will be more expensive in 2017, as the team hiked prices for season tix
    for the first time since 2014.

    The team said each season ticket increased by an average of $70. On
    Twitter, fans cited what they said were increases from $50 to $150 per

    They did raise ticket prices after 2013 too and that will be the 3rd ticket price increase in the last 5 years for a team that has put out a fairly substandard product over that same period.

    Their ticket prices have declined a bit over time because they haven’t been able to increase ticket prices as much other teams given their performance the last several years.

    “Despite the 6 percent jump in price this season, the Eagles are still
    the cheapest team in the NFC East this season. The Eagles are the 12th
    most expensive team on the resale market in 2016, down from the ninth
    priciest in 2015.”

    This had them 10th last year in average ticket price in the NFL.

    Right after the Super Bowl in ’04 after multiple season of season ticket increases I think I remember the Eagles were 3rd. Their weaker performance since then has cost them pricing power vs their competitors.

  90. 90 Dave said at 6:56 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    I bought an HD projector with a 120″ screen for $1,000 a few years ago. I considered my investment paid for in less than 1 season because each game was costing me at least $300 for tickets and tailgating and I would go to several per year. We would leave to go to the stadium at 6AM and get home after midnight. I always drove too.

    Now my Sundays consist of an 8:00AM tee time with just enough time to get home and turn on the DVR at about 1-1:30. I am caught up by skipping commercials by the end of the first quarter.

    Granted, I live in the Lehigh Valley, so it was a real chore to get to the games. I don’t miss them at all. If I were still in my 20s, I would probably still go to the stadium.

  91. 91 Insomniac said at 9:55 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    Just passing this Eagles internship opportunity along for anyone that’s interested or would know anyone that would be interested.

  92. 92 Dave said at 10:07 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    A 10-month internship requiring a college degree and professional experience. In my day, that was called a temp job.

  93. 93 Insomniac said at 10:20 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    It pretty much is but that’s how its been as far as I know. I don’t think there’s any experience required hence the strong interest part.

  94. 94 D3FB said at 11:41 AM on February 15th, 2017:

    As a recent college grad I can attest “Entry Level Jobs”: 2+ years experience

  95. 95 Dave said at 12:39 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    That really sucks. My nephew is sophomore doing a paid, full-time co-op at Mercury Marine for 8 months (this semester and during the summer). His engineering program offers the co-ops and internships (which he will be doing as well in the future) so that when the students graduate, they will have a few years experience for entry-level work. Students at his engineering school typically take 5 to 6 years graduate due to lengthy co-ops and internships. However, they get paid handsomely to perform them.

  96. 96 D3FB said at 3:34 PM on February 15th, 2017:

    Yea, the schools that are big on co-ops like Drexel are definitely on to something.

  97. 97 Ryan Rambo said at 11:08 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    QB and Resource Allocation….

  98. 98 CrackSammich said at 11:16 PM on February 14th, 2017:

    If we sign Adrian Peterson, I’ll find another team to follow.

  99. 99 xmbk said at 6:09 AM on February 16th, 2017:

    No way Peterson is coming here, but he already paid more than his dues. He was made an example of by the league. Big difference between intentionally hitting a woman out of anger, and over disciplining your son because it’s the way you were raised. One is unforgivable, the other is exactly the kind of mistake you hope someone can learn from and set an example to others.

  100. 100 CrackSammich said at 9:16 PM on February 18th, 2017:

    All of that may be true, but none of it will make me like him.

    I was a child welfare worker for 5 years. You should understand I’m coming from a place far different than you on this subject.

  101. 101 xmbk said at 9:30 PM on February 18th, 2017:

    Not that different. I’ve seen so much worse, someone who makes an honest mistake and learns from it deserves the chance to move on. In 5 years I’m sure you’ve seen what true evil looks like.

  102. 102 CrackSammich said at 12:39 AM on February 19th, 2017:

    I was fuzzy on the facts, so I looked it up. He got probation, a $4k fine, and 80 hours of community service, for something (I may be completely wrong here) he has given no indication of that he thinks it was wrong. I don’t agree that the league should be in the business of handing out punishments for off the field behavior, but he got off easily and was welcomed back with open arms because he’s a good football player. I don’t think he learned a damn thing.

    Compare him to someone like Michael Vick, who did jail time, had to ride the bench for a few years, and worked his way back. And even if he’s been lying about it for the good press, Vick has done charity work that’s helped many, many animals. And people still loath him for it.

    Yes. I’ve seen true evil. But the real benefit of no longer being a social worker is that I don’t have to have empathy for the abusers anymore, and can choose to say what I actually think of them. Fuck that guy.