A Big Catch

Posted: March 9th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 551 Comments »

The bad news is that #17 will be the key receiver for the Eagles this year.

The good news is that Alshon Jeffery will be wearing that and not Nelson Agholor.

You don’t have to be a football guru to notice a small difference in those videos. One guy can catch, one guy can’t.

Jeffery reportedly turned down a better offer from the Vikings to come to Philly to play for a 1-year, $14M deal. There is a good and bad side to that. The good news is that it shows Jeffery wanted to be here. He wanted to play for the Eagles and with Carson Wentz. The downside is that he is only here on a 1-year deal. Will he be worried about stats, as he tries to earn a mega-deal for the future? Will Jeffery have one eye on 2017 and one to the future?

There is no question that he is a major upgrade for the passing game. Wentz now has a workhorse receiver to get the ball to. Jeffery is one of those players who is so big and talented that even when he isn’t open, he is open. He can make tough, contested catches and that is something that has been missing from the Eagles for a while.

Howie Roseman didn’t stop with Jeffery.

So the Eagles added a pair of starting WRs, they signed a G with 48 career starts and they kept the starting LG from 2016 (who can also play LT or RT). The Eagles got better today.

They cut DE Connor Barwin. That move had to be made. Barwin struggled in 2016 and his release gave the team almost $8M in cap space. Barwin was an Eagle for 4 years, but it feels like he is one of those guys who will always be an Eagle because of how great he was in the community. Barwin embraced Philadelphia and did everything he could to help this city out. Kudos, sir and good luck elsewhere.

Barwin will go to a 3-4 team and get a chance to use his versatility. He isn’t a great pure pass rusher. He needs to be doing a variety of things to be at his best. He can be an effective player for a few more years, but definitely needs the right system to take advantage of his skill set.

Bennie Logan, the Eagles top free agent, was quiet today. No rumors. No visits. The whole DT group was quiet. Brandon Williams got a deal in the evening and that will set the market. Dontari Poe, Johnathan Hankins and Logan will follow. I don’t have a good feel for Logan’s future. The Eagles don’t want to lose a good DL, but the cost has to work.

No real updates on Jason Kelce and Mychal Kendricks. The Eagles are shopping them, but haven’t worked anything out yet. The first day of free agency can be tough for working out trades so this could go on for a bit. If the Eagles get desperate for cap room, they have to just cut the guys. They don’t want to do that since both players are talented and have some value. They just have to find a team that is willing to sacrifice a pick for them.

The Eagles won’t be doing much else unless they can free up more space. There are still some good CBs on the market. If they lose Logan, the Eagles might have to make a move at DT. They could add a WLB to replace Kendricks. Just don’t expect huge moves. They will go bargain hunting.

That’s what they did with Torrey Smith. He signed a 3-year deal, but it is really just for one year. The Eagles like him and his speed, but don’t want to commit to a player who has struggled in recent years. Smith will be playing with a good QB in a solid passing game for the first time in a few years. That should bring out the best in him. Obviously the key word there is “should”.

The Eagles didn’t commit long term money to the WR position so that can still be addressed early in the draft. The team doesn’t have to force anything. They can use pick 14 on just about anything aside from a QB, P or K. After that, all bets are off. The prevailing wisdom will have the Eagles going for a CB, but they can still take a WR if the right guy is on the board. The Eagles want to surround Wentz with talent.

One of the benefits to the moves made today is that the Eagles added good people. I did worry a bit about Terrelle Pryor and some baggage he might bring with him. I worried a little about Kenny Britt, who used to regularly get in trouble in NJ. Jeffery and Smith a very good guys who will help the Eagles, on and off the field.

There is plenty more work to be done, with trade talks and adding minor players to fill roster holes. For now, Howie Roseman and the Eagles front office are off to a good start. Wentz has legitimately talented receivers. The OL has more depth than in a long time. Lots of holes still to fix, but Howie and his staff certainly are off to a good start.

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  • droid3000

    More talented than Maclin or djax? I don’t know about that

    • gherbox

      Different than. Maclin would be incredible if he wasnt a bitch.

      • ProbablyDrunk

        huh

      • Crazymike663

        Damn Self tacklin Maclin!!

    • Tumtum

      Could be. Hard to tell right? Kind of splitting hairs at that point. He is kind of like Maclin in a much bigger body, right? Is he better than both because of the whole package he offers? Absolutely.

      If I have to pick a team for 1 game, and my life depends on the outcome, I take Alshon in an instant and move on to harder decisions. Isn’t even close.

      Now if you are talking long term…it gets kind of tough between Maclin and Alshon. Desean isn’t even a distant thought in that discussion.

    • Anders

      yes

    • Buge Halls

      Today? Yes he is. Remember, both of those two have gotten older since they left Philly. Maclin really hasn’t lived up to the cost KC paid. For that matter neither has D-Jac – Tampa way over paid for him.

      • droid3000

        i was talking about prim djax and maclin, also it isnt maclins fault alex smith is his qb. if both were here im sure they would still be putting up numbers

  • scratcherk

    Respectfully disagree that it could go on for a bit since Kendricks is due his bonus on Saturday

    • Tumtum

      Pay it.

  • DrGeniusPhD

    Alshon Jeffery is so good he once caught a touchdown pass from Matt Barkley

    • BC1968

      He’s the most interesting receiver in the world.

    • A_T_G

      Meh, half the defensive backs in the league did that.

      • Anders

        Half the defensive backs in the league also might better than DGB and Agholor

  • gherbox

    Worth a one year deal.

  • ChoTime

    BOOM! What a huge upgrade to the WR corps! This offense should be at least middle of the pack this year.

    • Tumtum

      Setting those sights high aren’t we? Haha

      • ChoTime

        My statement kind of lost steam at the end there, didn’t it?

    • Mac

      I’m going to miss calling them a WR corpse.

      On second thought, no I won’t miss that.

    • P_P_K

      Find a full-time RB and the top of the pack could be in sight.

      • BobSmith77

        Depends on OL’s health line though (especially Peters) and who that RB is.

        Ran the ball fairly effectively last year but just had issues in the passing game especially later in the year.

        My sense is that it will largely be somewhat of a wash with an offense that ends up say #10-15 in PPG (#16 last year), a decent uptick to become a mid-tier passing team, and a slight falloff in the run game.

        • P_P_K

          Your prediction is probably about right. If Carson really grows into a fine starting qb, I’d hope for a top 10 Offense. If the Eagles make my wish come true and draft Cook, the sky is the limit.

  • Tumtum

    Hopefully we get to keep Kelce and Kendricks unless there is a legit better option. Sure Kelce isn’t consistent. Sure Kendricks isn’t his 2013/14 self. They are still both damn solid starters. The Devil you know, as they say… can’t imagine moving on without having any damn Devil in place. People say Isaac can play center, but I wouldn’t mind having him competing for another spot.

    Say what you want about the line. PFF rated them 8. Not elite, but not out of the realm of elite with improvement and luck in health/suspensions. Kelce started 16 games to get that 8.

    Pryor and Jeffery both had issues. I didn’t really want either (of course I was excited by their talent). Jeffery on a 1 year prove it deal is AMAZING. It takes away all the fears I had for being caught up in him long term. I just hope the dude has finally realized he needs to care for his body (apparently that’s been the knock against him since college…didn’t eat right etc).

    • eagleyankfan

      going to disagree because that’s what we do here. Kendricks and Kelce are better served as back ups and are not “damn solid starters”. Spot starts, sure. I thought the main reason to moving them was more cap space coupled with their declining abilities. If you look at the team and ask where does this team need upgrades – those two are near the top of the list with CB.

      • @jimkempner

        I agree that cap considerations are key. As of right now we must be well over the cap. The math will likely exchange Womack little money contract for Kelce’s: Seumalo to center, Barbre to remain at LG and Womack as back-up.I think that gains about 3 to 4M/year. I like Kelce (smart, athletic, gamer) though undersized, but I think he has to be traded or cut. I don’t think we save much by releasing Kendricks but Roseman will have to find cap space wherever he can.

      • Tom33

        I get that Kelce has his struggles at times, and I understand the cap implications, but I really can’t understand why people are so ready to just cut him or call him a “spot starter”. I mean, the guy made the freaking Pro Bowl this year. I’m not arguing he’s a top 5 center in this league, but to think you can just throw him out and will automatically see an upgrade at that position seems really optimistic to me. Especially considering the fact that he and Lane (#4 pick overall) are the only solid contributors to the O line that were drafted by this organization in recent memory.

        • ChoTime

          I agree. It’s just not that easy to replace starters.

          • eagleyankfan

            Only as good as your weak link…

      • Tumtum

        I agree with the decline, and salary issues. I disagree that either is anywhere close to CB type of bad.

        Im certainly not against getting rid of them for a better or equal option. I just dont see the option. Especially on the oline where one weal link ruins the chain.

        Put it this way: who was our last WIL that was better than Kendricks?

    • truehaynes

      I’d rather start Goode at lb and get rid of Kendricks. Goode is way cheaper and probably better. That position also barely plays. Get kel e out of town asap.

    • D3FB

      You can’t have Kelce, Seumalo, Warmack, and Barbre. It’s a waste of resources and makes it impossible to spend any kind of pick on an interior OL in a draft that has some solid options on day 3

      • Tumtum

        Did Seumalo even take 1 snap in last preseason?

        • D3FB

          He was predominantly a C in college. There isn’t an issue with him handling the position.

          • Tumtum

            Well… in light of recent uhh events… I would take him starting over Wiz for sure.

  • Ray888

    Best thing about yesterday – Eagles retained all their draft choices. As good as the additions were in the first day of free agency, there still are 8 chances to add quality, young players (and perhaps more, if the 2 K’s can be traded). Amy potential trade with the Saints would have reduced that number and left holes at the top of the draft. Glad it did not happen.

    • Mac

      If the Alshon money is similar to what a new deal for Brandin would be, then this was a real bargain because of the ability to keep that 2nd round pick. I know I wasn’t thinking Alshon could be had at this price, and certainly not on a one year deal. The ability to cut bait and run if he is injured or has another suspension immediately makes a skeptic (like myself) feel much better about getting Alshon.

      • Sb2bowl

        Agreed- the one year deal factor changed my outlook. You stated the reasons why already.
        I never considered a one year deal to be a possibility, hence I’ve never been on the Alshon bandwagon. I still prefer Cooks (even if we had to trade a 2&4), but this WR type should mesh well with Wentz and his ability to trust his receivers to make a play.

  • Greg Tulino

    I believe we will also sign a veteran CB before the draft. Someone who is at least better than Nolan Carroll. I think we will draft at least 2 CB’s in the draft and maybe sign another as an UDFA. Not sure how we will fill the LB, DT, RB or DE holes yet. We all know we can’t fix the entire roster in one offseason, but getting WR and CB addressed could be enough to get us to the playoffs next year.

    • BobSmith77

      They almost have to.

    • Mac

      Kayvon Webster and Marcus Cooper are still available (I think). But doubt they’d be early signing type guys.

    • BobSmith77

      Carroll and McKelvin are still available . . .

    • Tumtum

      Anyone in mind for FA?

  • Media Mike

    I think I’d tend to agree with Tommy that the contract structures of our new WRs doesn’t take WR off of the board early-ish in the draft.

    Round 1 Pick 14: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 16 (MINN): Taylor Moton, OT/OG, Western Michigan (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 13 (ARI): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 22 (MINN): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 41 (PITT): Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 12: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 32 (COMP): Lorenzo Jerome, SS, Saint Francis (PA) (B)
    Round 5 Pick 11: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 10: Stevie Tu’ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (C)
    Round 7 Pick 12: T.J. Logan, RB, North Carolina (C+)

    • bill

      I like that one, even though you once again neglected my developmental TE. I think, after yesterday, that I’m coming to terms that TE will not be a drafted position this year. They still need CBs, a RB, probably a DT, probably a DE, depth LB, depth S, depth OL. As everyone is acknowledging, even WR is not off the board. I don’t see them using even a 5th on a TE project. Sigh.

    • truehaynes

      Can you please stop doing these stupid trade backs. Do a realistic draft or don’t post it

      • eagleyankfan

        How can he do a realistic draft? Hes just a fan throwing darts

  • Anders

    I really hope we can keep Logan. With a modest market it should be possible.

    I also hope we add a guy like Devin Taylor for cheap and I think there is a great chance we take a flyer on DeAndre Levy to be starting WILL instead of Kendricks.

    • Tumtum

      Because of contract only? Kendricks is better to me.

      • Anders

        Levy is a better player when healthy for this scheme

  • eagleyankfan

    so it’s possible – this time next year we’ll be needing 2 starting wr’s again? What a feeling going into spring knowing we have a quality starting QB/WR/WR/OL. How can you not drool over the wr’s and then throw in Ertz. This will help the running game as well.

    • Buge Halls

      Smith is singed for three years – so if he works out, he’s here. If not, he’s gone. So it’s possible we’ll need two, or 1 or none if Jeffery works out and they can sign him to a deal (or franchise).

      • Rellihcs

        optionality

    • Anders

      If Alshon has a good year, he will get a long term deal

      • Sb2bowl

        Best outcome for both parties, but I’ll admit-$14m on a one year prove it deal feels like a lot. Especially with our cap situation.

        • bdbd20

          I believe I heard the term “dysfunction tax” used yesterday in relation to the Browns. When you don’t draft well, you do have to overpay to get talent.

          • Sb2bowl

            Works for me- we have a hard time developing talent as well. That’s why I like the approach that they are taking with Wentz; over invest so that he has the best opportunity possible

    • D3FB

      That’s the downside to yesterday. There’s a half decent chance that we could have to replace the left side of the line and the top three WRs after next season.

      • Sb2bowl

        Any chance for extensions during the year for our new guys, depending on how they play?

        • D3FB

          Alshon yes, paying two guards big money would be stupid though.

          • Sb2bowl

            Agreed, and we will need to replace the RT (assuming Lane isn’t an asshat going forward) as well. Gotta develop through the draft, resources will be running thin going forward.

    • Tumtum

      If these guys prove to be what we want, we have ample ability to sign them. Howie has shown there is no need to worry.

  • Buge Halls

    If one of the two top receivers happens to fall to the Eagles in the 1st round, I say they still take him. Look a good young receiver up long term. Smith is under contract for three years. Jeffery could get paid next year if he pans out or let go if a new pick comes along. Everybody keeps saying the draft is loaded with talent at CB, so 2nd to 4th should be able to find one or two. Also need a RB and DE help with a couple guys leaving (or soon to leave). Yesterday really help improve the options in the draft.

    • Fufina

      If WR is BPA draft him, but there is no need to force it now. Where we have bigger needs is CB, DE, DT and OLB, all of which need depth or starters.

      Ideally draft would go something like 1-CB 2-DE 3-CB 4-OLB 4-RB, 5-DT.

      Think there are 2 more moves to happen, Mathews getting injury waived, and a trade of Kendricks or Kelce. Once that happens think they will sign 1 more defensive player to fill a hole, of which Bennie could definitely be the move.

  • Insomniac
    • Rellihcs

      Good observation. If only there was a way to get multiple potentially quality cbs, who are young and cheap… oh well.

      • A_T_G

        Chloroform and Todd Herreman’s van?

        • Rellihcs

          I like your style.

    • Mitchell

      I remember Barkley throwing a crap ton of ints late in the season.

    • Sb2bowl

      That’s a lot for Ryan. Going to be hard to get better at CB without going younger and investing draft picks.

    • ChoTime

      Re: Barkley
      ***golf clap***

  • scratcherk

    Tom waddle, the chicago beat, seems to think Alshon is a solid #2 but not a #1. Obviously he’s never seen our WR corps. He’s a 1AAA

    • Anders

      If Alshon is a not a no. 1, wtf does one look like? Julio Jones type season?

      • scratcherk

        he was saying that his best years were opposite Marshall. When he was the go to guy, he didnt perform like a #1

        • Anders

          He did, he was just injured one year and suspended and played with garbage the other year

          • ChoTime

            Even Randy Moss looked bad on the Raiders.

      • A_T_G

        Maybe he means #2 overall, league-wide?

      • Mitchell

        Seriously. He may not be as good as Julio/OBJ/AB but he is still a “#1.”

      • Ark87

        It’s pure semantics. Everyone has different qualifiers. On one end of the spectrum, well, every team has a #1 WR in a literal sense. On the other end of the spectrum a #1 WR demands extra attention from the defense and still gives top production. Of course there would be only 2-5 guys in the league that fit that bill. Everyone else’s definition of a #1 WR falls somewhere in between.

      • Rellihcs

        The guy probably has a rigid memory and mindset of Brandon Marshall #1, Alshon #2. You know, because flip-phones are hi-tech nowadays and all…

    • Tumtum

      I tend to agree from what he has shown so far. This isnt the mid 00s though. WR aint what it was. In this NFL he is a 1 …o ly if healthy of course

    • Daniel Dangler

      Wrong

  • myartz04

    1 dropped pass on 92 targets. *Chubs up just a little*

    • Sb2bowl

      A little? That’s being bashful

  • GermanEagle

    GE’s early season prediction for AJ:
    90 catches, 1264 Yards, 12 TDs.
    [IF AJ stays injury and suspension free]

    • Rellihcs

      You OK about not getting Desean now?

      • GermanEagle

        Yeah sure. I wouldn’t have paid DeSean $11m/year. That’s insane. As much as I like him..

        • Rellihcs

          Glad to hear it. I think we are very nicely positioned at WR now to say the least, and frankly, I’m glad Desean isn’t here. But I promise, I’ll stop bustin your marbles bout this now. Cheers (I assume you’re recovered and are back on the wagon already).

          • GermanEagle

            If you are referring to my root canal then no unfortunately. Need a 2nd treatment next week and it is painful as hell. Guess I will be on the meds wagon for quite a while. lol

          • ChoTime
        • Sb2bowl

          Agreed; DeSean in the $8m range would be acceptable, but at his current rate I hope he enjoys Florida. Plus, he should save on income tax down there

    • Tumtum

      Hope ur right!

  • Corry

    So yesterday was pretty exciting.

    I have to wonder if the running game doesn’t improve just due to the presence of a deep threat on the field. Safeties won’t be able to squat on short/intermediate routes anymore and respect the fact that we have players who can take the top off the defense.

    • Mac

      Agreed. That coupled with fewer drops, and a rookie QB who has had a year to grow… the offense just might be good enough to be competitive in the NFC East.

      • Ark87

        I think we are on the right track and closer than most think. To hear people talk: the WR’s were a disaster (agreed), the play calling was terrible (sometimes, but the best play caller in the league last year is going to be remembered for 1 atrocious series), O-line was bad, no run game, so on and so forth. There were some serious serious deficiencies last year, to the point that the fact that we were not a complete dumpster fire was encouraging to me. Something was working well in all this. Hopefully it gets a chance to shine with better pieces.

    • Tumtum

      Mehhh. Didn’t feel like thay was happening last season. Can’t hurt though! Young guys are a year older is the biggest hope for impromemt right now.

      • Corry

        I agree. Particularly, if Wentz takes a step forward in development, the whole team will.

      • Ark87

        the issue we had is our offense operated almost entirely in a block from sideline to sideline and 20 yards deep (and 5 yards back). Always good to spread the defense out a bit, especially if your QB has mobility. Just more opportunities for all.

  • BobSmith77

    Surprised there seems to be more local praise for the moves Roseman made yesterday than nationally.

    Don’t remember that being the case most notably with ‘Dream Team I.’ Hell, SI gave Nnamdi the cover and they wrote a fairly lengthy article on them in the same issue.

    http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/nnamdi-si.jpg

    • ChoTime

      In the grand scheme of things, a mediocre team just got a little better.

    • Mac

      In hindsight, that cover belongs to Evan Mathis.

  • Seth S. Scott

    Glad to see the Eagles make some nice moves early and address WR so in the draft they can focus on CB first (possibly WR or RB if the right players are still on the board). But overall I think this coming season is already gonna have a far better team than last year.

  • GordonGekko

    This S HITTY writer writes a story about #17. Useless and worthless site.

    • BobSmith77

      Do you Internet Torrette’s Syndrome?

      • Rellihcs

        Partially, he’s also an ahole.

    • Ark87

      you can curse here, buddy. no need to try to fool the censors that don’t exist.

      • GordonGekko

        Yeah, but I won’t be here long because this Eagles site offers nothing of any value to read. It will be deleted from my bookmark.

        • Ark87

          I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you find what you’re looking for.

          • RobNE

            for me this is watching you guys talk to a ghost.

          • Tom33

            yup – “This User is blocked”

          • Ark87

            that’s my schizophrenia acting up

          • Sb2bowl

            Same here. A ghost named “This user is blocked.”

        • Rellihcs

          Then why do you keep coming back to be a jerk? Is that what gives you self esteem or something?

          • GordonGekko

            You really are a loser.

          • GordonGekko

            Are you going to cry now that I didn’t give YOU my reasons earlier that this site sucked?

        • GermanEagle

          Bye.

        • A Roy

          One can only hope, Troll.

          • GordonGekko

            DICK

          • GordonGekko

            Hey loser! Do you wear an Eagles jersey with someone else’s name on the back? I’m sure you do, LOSER.

          • A Roy

            I laugh at the life you must lead…trying to irritate people. Too bad. I’m removing your posts before you can reply.

          • GordonGekko

            FUCK YOU, DICK LOSER

          • GordonGekko

            Buy another jersey with someone else’s name, LOSER!!!!!!!!!

  • Corry

    Josina Anderson reported yesterday on ESPN that Jeffrey is planning on trying to recruit other guys to Philly. He signed a 1 year deal, but that sounds like he’d prefer a multi year commitment.

    • Rellihcs

      Nice catch. That’s awesome.

    • GermanEagle

      What most fans don’t seem to know: it was the Eagles that offered AJ only a one year contract, and it was AJ who was betting on him in Philly rather than signing a multi-year contract in Minny.
      I do strongly believe that AJ is here for the long run!

    • GordonGekko

      She a NI GGER and she breaks more stories than this RETARDED writer.

  • Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard

    Question for the class: what’s our cap situation next year (to afford to re-sign Jeffrey, etc)? Who comes off the books besides JP?

    • Ark87

      I think we can finally get rid Agholar, not a ton of cap space cleared but I think we’ll all feel slightly cleaner.

      • Rellihcs

        I think he might develop well under 100% less pressure this year and the current negativity toward him will look quite dumb in retrospect. I could be wrong, but either way worrying about him now is just stupid.

        • D3FB

          Yea I think he can turn into a post-hype player roughly similar to Robert Woods.

        • A Roy

          Not in this town. People will never forgive him for not being worthy of a first round pick.

          • Rellihcs

            Well, that’s one thing I hate about our fellow dumba**es. I wish open-mindedness, some patience, and wisdom was part of the package, but I’m not stupid enough to expect otherwise. You know, Brandon Graham was a bust and Hicks was a dumb pick because we had LBs then…

          • D3FB

            Ehhhh I think most people are over Marcus Smith and the narrative is slowly moving into he’s an acceptable depth DE and no longer a complete waste of space.

          • Rellihcs

            I would love to think that but I don’t agree with “most people” at this point – I think it’s still the vast majority that still thinks he’s worthless trash and should be cut.

          • ChoTime

            The thing that bothered me most about Marcus Smith were the people telling me he was just fine when he wasn’t.

          • Mac

            I was impressed with his speed. It’s a shame he doesn’t have the brain for 3-4 olb because that fits his body better than 4-3 DE… which fits his brain better than his body.

        • Ark87

          I agree, he has all the tools people saw in the draft. I think the total lack of hands is a headcase thing. I think Tommy picked the perfect clip, oh hey a nice route against Richard Sherman aaaaand (may not have been man coverage, might have been passed on to another defender), smh…

          • Ankerstjernen

            I remember us discussing that exact play during the season. From other angles you could see that Sherman was in man coverage, and Agholar completely planted him and left him in the dust as he crossed the middle. He has something like 3-5 yards of separation on that route against one of the best CBs in the league. And then of course he tried to catch the ball with his facemask. It really seems like he has ability and just needs to get his mind right. I have not given up hope for him just yet.

    • Corry

      We’ll have 10 million in cap space with nothing changing. However, Peters ($10M), Kendricks ($4.4M), Celek ($4M), Kelce ($6M), and Agholor ($500K) could all be moved on from with significant savings.

      This is of course assuming none of those guys are moved this year.

    • scratcherk

      Have 10 mil in cap as it stands right now.

      Obvious cuts:
      JP (10 mil), Chase (7 mil), Kendricks (4.4 mil), Kelce (6 mil), Ron Brooks (2.5 mil)

      Other possible:
      Celek (4 mil), Torrey Smith (5 mil)

      New cap space:
      $40-49 million

      We should be good.

      • Jernst

        You have to account for taking Barwin, McKelvin, Kendricks contracts off of 2018 as well

        • scratcherk

          This one does that

    • A Roy

      Include Daniel @$7M and McLeod @ $2.8M in that list.

      • D3FB

        McLeod?!

        • A Roy

          Looking for whatever I can find. And I forgot Sproles. $4M.

          • D3FB

            Unless he puts in 16 weeks of Bengals tape that ain’t happening.

          • A Roy

            Yeah. Forget I said McLeod.

    • D3FB

      Peters and Celek are pretty much locks. That’s 14.

      Curry saves 5 mil if he doesn’t turn it around.

      Sproles comes off the books.

      Chase saves 7 mil,

      We’re pretty healthy cap wise moving forward especially considering JMatt hopefully won’t be extended. Basically Hicks in the only guy we have to pay in the next 18 months and the older guys will gray out.

      • scratcherk

        Also Celek, Kelce, Brooks

        • D3FB

          Those guys will all come off in the coming days and months that’s why I didn’t count them.

          • scratcherk

            sure, but not counted in the 10 mil in cap space that is currently projected for next season

    • Dominik

      Sproles will be gone (great player, but also expensive). Most important thing is getting rid of the terrible contracts for Celek and Daniel. That will save a ton and you basically don’t lose anything. Best way to save money.

      From a locker room culture perspective, extending Celek made sense last year. Reward own players, great leader and fighter and all that. I get it. Also, new HC, it’s good to have someone like Celek, a true Eagle, around. But I have to say, Celeks contract could be the worst contract Howie signed as GM. He’s 32, not really productive anymore and he’s at 4m dead/1m savings this year. He had no leverage at all and is basically uncuttable this year. Really not Roseman style. It hurts right now. Especially with having Burton around, who could easily play the #2 TE imo.

      Also, JP will be gone next year and either replaced by an early draft pick or Vaitai/Gordon. Either way, you save ~ 8-9m on the cap.

      So we’re very tight this year, but next year shouldn’t be a problem.

      • bill

        I don’t disagree that the contract is an anchor, but I don’t think Burton can replace Celek’s blocking, which is still an important factor in certain situations. Ertz appears to be capped at average in that respect, and Burton’s just bad. Making Burton the #2 TE takes a bunch of plays out of the play book, and makes this an even more pass-heavy team. They have plenty of depth at pass-catching TE, but they need to develop a blocker.

      • Dan

        Ya JP being gone is a big cap savings.

    • Jernst

      A lot was made about all the contracts Howie gave out this past year and how they effected our cap situation in 2017 (putting us at the bottom of the league in available funds, 29th overall). But, few people looked ahead to 2018 and beyond.

      In 2018, if you assume we already unloaded Barwin, Mathews, McKelvin and Kendricks, we will be looking at a projected cap space of: $31.9M.

      And, that is with Jason Peters counting $11.25M, $10.25M of which would be saved if he’s cut after next year, Brent Celek counting $5M, $4M of which can be saved if he’s cut after next year, and Chase Daniel counting $8M, $7M of which can be saved if he’s cut after next year.

      Kelce could also be cut for a $6M savings, Ron Brooks for $2.14M, DGB for $1.2M and Agholor for $600k.

      So anywhere from $50-63M in space is projected to be there with the core in place just around the time Wentz is hitting the beginning of his prime. If you assume about $5M for each draft class in 2017 and 2018 and $10M for each free agency haul in each of those years, we could add a significant FA and a mid level veteran with each FA, and still have $25-30M to play with in FA next year. And, Jordan Hicks and Jordan Matthews are the only young players (aside from Bennie Logan this offseason) that will be in line for an extension going into 2018.

      Say what you will about Howie, but the guy knows how to work the cap. Even two years out we know the team will enter Wentz’s prime with its LT, C/G, RG, QB, a stud TE, two DE, a stud DT, and two top notch safeties looked up on what will look like very reasonable contracts by then, with 2 draft classes, 2 free agency classes and an addition $30M in space to fill out the roster just as Wentz hits the point of being ready to compete for a Super Bowl.

    • GordonGekko

      You are one of those DICKHEAD LOSERS that wears an Eagles jersey with someone else’s name on the back. HAHAHAHAHA. What a LOSER !!!!!!!!!

  • Flyineagle45

    Get Pryor 2 big bodies trade Matthews or something.

    • Rellihcs

      Dumb money move. We have 3 big bodies including Matthews now at WR, and excluding DGB. We also have Ertz.

      Rather use the extra cap room (assuming there is some?) on Logan/other DT.

      • Flyineagle45

        Move DGB I don’t think it’s that big a hit. Trade Matthews and Kendricks and see where we are at.

        • Rellihcs

          No, don’t trade Matthews. He’s our #3 WR. Why weaken our WR depth chart just to trade a guy? To me that’s idiotic. He’s a great #3 guy in the slot with strong vets around him. No reason to trade him.

          • Flyineagle45

            I’d take Pryor over Matthews any day and run Jeffrey Pryor and Smith

      • Dan

        Probably a chance they trade Matthews now regardless and draft a WR in the 3rd/4th

  • Corry

    3 year deal for Wisniewski to come back to Philly.

    • D3FB

      FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK

      • Corry

        So…..not a fan?

      • Rellihcs

        ??

        • D3FB

          Barbre, Seumalo, Brooks, Warmack, Wiz, Gordon.

          It’s a draft with some really enticing day 3 interior OL.

          • Ark87

            think Kelce is good as gone then?

          • D3FB

            Oh he gone.

            I mean they could keep him and then have 7 interior OL and be paying 25 mil for it, but that seems unlikely.

            Literally the only positive is no more Josh Andrews.

          • Ark87

            yeah, that’s too much for who we have. From the looks of things we are moving towards the road grater variety of lineman

          • Corry

            That’s vintage Andy Reid: road grader linemen to pass block 47 times a game.

          • Rellihcs

            Ok, but maybe intesnse competition and little guaranteed money so it’s all good? Cut the weakest?

          • D3FB

            We’ve got 900 good interior OL and my fat ass would probably be CB 4 right now. Or DE 4 or DT 5 or LB5. They’re going to have to pick for need on day 3 and miss out on guys with legit starting potential so they can take a mediocre backup LB or CB.

          • Rellihcs

            I hear you. Appreciate the response.

          • Mac

            You think Barbre/Warmack/Wiz/Gordon is more than a pile of tire kicking?

      • Dominik

        Wait for the money. Howie was really disciplined yesterday. I read yesterday the Eagles were impressed with his starts at LG (I hope that wasn’t really the case, I wasn’t). As a back-up Center/Guard for back-up money (and insurance for Seumalo not getting the job done) he’d be ok. I worry about his character, but the Eagles saw him one full season.

        But it needs to be clear back-up money imo. Otherwise I’m pissed, too.

        • D3FB

          It’s not the money it’s roster construction

          • GermanEagle

            You seem to be very down on Wiz and Warmack. Would you rather keep Kelce and draft an OLiner on day 3?!

          • D3FB

            I would have gone Barbre-Seumalo-Brooks with a draft pick (pushing Barbre) and Gordon and maybe one of Wiz or Warmack

          • A Roy

            They need the 2018 RT to be somewhere on this roster don’t they? Assuming Peters is gone and Johnson moves.

          • D3FB

            The 2018 RT is going to be Vaitai v a top 100 next year.

          • A Roy

            Man, that’s really a step back from what we have now…assuming Johnson’s good for the full 16, that is.

          • D3FB

            I mean just about anything was going to be a step down.

            Vaitai can be a middle of the pack starting RT. Obviously it’s better if he’s just a really good swing tackle. The T class is just so bad this year. There’s nothing outside of the top 50ish that’s better than Big V.

            All things considered I would put the highest odds of our 2018 top pick being a T.

          • xmbk

            Or FA.

          • D3FB
          • xmbk

            Hey, Dennis Kelly is on there.

            You don’t think that will change? I think at least one decent Tackle ends up on the market, but we’ll see. Not arguing that building thru the draft isn’t better.

          • D3FB

            Maybe Morgan Moses. Just looked at the 2014 draft class, there’s nothing really there besides that.

          • xmbk

            They may be hoping to hit the lotto with someone like Hart or Gordon. But thank you for the analysis, does look like you are spot on.

          • Dominik

            RG is settled for the foreseeable future. We have a young G/C in Seumalo. A pretty young Guard in Warmack. Barbre is a vet, but I very much like him on the roster for 2017 because he can play LG or be the 6th OL who can play every position except C.

            Wiz comes in as the back-up C (we all hope) . As soon as Kelce is traded/cut, Seumalo will (hopefully) be our C. He’s young. Can have a veteran back-up in this case. And it has value when your back-up C can also play Guard. It’s a waste of a 46 active gameday spot otherwise, imo.

            I think they view Gordon and Vaitai as pure Tackle prospects. We have a future need there. Barbre is probably the back-up LT and RT for 2017, but he and Peters will be gone in 2018. Need Gordon and Vaitai as Tackles, at least for depth.

          • Jernst

            Well if the plan is to move on from Kelce and Barbre and start Seumalo and Warmack, it would make sense to have our top backup interior lineman be a guy who can play Center as well. If you roll with Seumalo at C without Wiz on the roster there’s no viable backup center.

            That being said, I don’t think signing Warmack and Wiz precludes us at all from taking anyone in the draft. They just replace Barbre and Kelce’s roster spots with cheaper alternatives.

          • D3FB

            Compare the interior OL depth chart to corner, de, dt, lb.

            You’re on the clock in the fourth of fifth round.

            Who ya takin?

          • xmbk

            Hopefully corner is deep by the time that round rolls around, but point taken. Maybe the organization has targeted interior line as being undervalued, so that signing competent vets and using the draft for other positions is in the strategy guide.

          • Jernst

            Good point and I don’t disagree. Just don’t think the recent moves have changed that at all. If we hadn’t signed Warmack and Wiz and stuck with Kelce and Barbre we’d be in the same position depth chart-wise. Except now with the cap savings of replacing Kelce and Barbre on the depth chart with Wiz and Warmack we can actually possibly sign someone for depth at those other positions.

        • Dan

          Exactly, I see this as insurance of Seumalo replacing Kelce and lets Warmack and Wisniewski battle for LG. Probably spells the end of Barbre too.

          • Rellihcs

            I think you jump to conclusions about players being cut too quickly. Just sayin…

      • Tumtum

        Well u were right on my earlier post about Kelce…. i share your sentiment.

    • A Roy

      Hope there’s nothing guaranteed…

    • SteveH

      If it’s a low $ deal, why not have a versatile swing backup? As long as it’s super cheap.

      • Corry

        3 years up to $9M, however with incentives, he’s looking to make up to $15M.

        • SteveH

          Yeah that’s not the kind of deal I wanted.

  • GermanEagle

    Bye bye Kelce. Thanks for everything (but not the penalties…).

  • bill

    Ok, capheads, help me out. I remember seeing approximately $8M in cap space to start FA. Cutting Barwin gained them another $7M or so. I look at yesterday’s signings, and they add up to around $19M. So they are currently $4M ish over the cap? Still realistically need to sign at least a cheap veteran CB, and at least either a depth DT or a depth LB that can be reasonably expected to contribute at some point in 2017.

    1. Do I have the numbers right?
    2. It seems to say that Kelce is gone. Kendricks, obviously, too. But IIRC, the cap savings from those two won’t be enough to cover yesterday, let alone provide some breathing room for the CB. Mathews, but..
    3. Does an injury settlement count against this year’s cap? How? Does he have them a bit over the barrel in that respect, now that they need him to accept the settlement, timing wise?

    • Tumtum

      Cutting guys on Rookie deals doesn’t really save much does it?

  • Corry

    Some more info on the Wiz deal: it’s 3 years worth up to $9M, but can go up to $15M if he hits incentives.

    It’s been fun Kelce, but we wish you luck on your future team.

    • James

      What what what? Isnt he an over the hill OL that couldnt find a team last year?

      • Corry

        He’s only 27, but no he couldn’t find a deal he wanted last year so played on a 1 year “show me” deal. Apparently the Birds saw enough.

    • Dominik

      Well I don’t like the money. Let’s wait for the structure. If there isn’t much guar., it could be ok. The incentives part show me that it is a prove it deal, even though a pretty long lasting one.

      • Fufina

        $3mil a year is about what i expect you pay for your 6th man on the OL who can cover center and guard on game days. Seems bad news for Barbre i would imagine who is probably getting cut at the end of training camp unless there are interior injuries.

        • Dominik

          Barbre is the clearly superior player imo. He was really good at LG last year. Wiz… not so much.

          They allowed Barbre to look for a trade partner. For a 2.15m cap hit. He’s worth that. I don’t understand paying Wiz 3m per.

          Let’s wait for the structure. If it’s guar. frontloaded, volume backloaded (2m cap hit 2017, 2m cap hit 2018, all of the guar. money in year 1, then 5m in 2019, f.e.), everything is alright.

    • Sb2bowl

      Must not be saying much for our developmental guys (Andrews, Tobin, Gordon).

      • D3FB

        Andrews is the Kenjon Barner of interior OL. Tobin is 27 this year and is a 8th or 9th OL. They like Gordon but he’s still got alot of development to do.

        • Sb2bowl

          Exactly- those guys are gone, camp bodies at best but almost no realistic opportunity to make the roster unless injuries take a toll.

  • Tumtum

    Call me a loser, if you will. Im wearing my white #11 Authentic at work today.

    • GermanEagle

      Winner winner chicken dinner!

    • Mac

      Eagles vintage pullover for me today.

      • GordonGekko

        Do you have someone else’s name on the back??

    • GordonGekko

      Do you have someone else’s name on the back?

  • xmbk

    Basic technique in the Ags video. His hands are backwards.

    • Mitchell

      Thats how Jerry Rice caught the ball.

    • Will Ft. Daft Punk

      I just think he missed the ball.

      • xmbk

        Sure, but he should have had his hands flipped. Thumbs are stronger than pinkies. At that level it should be instinctual to have your hands correct. Can maybe be excused if the ball surprised him, but he was looking the whole time, even adjusted his body.

        Not saying that coaching will turn him around. But that was a coachable moment, and if he continues to brain fart then he’s an idiot, bye bye.

  • James

    Is there a rule that teams must be under the cap by an exact time today?

    • GermanEagle

      11.59am.

      • Tumtum

        serious?.. thats like right now.

        • Fufina

          They have not signed these guys yet. Until Alshon sits in an Eagles office and the team tweets out a picture of him signing the contract he is not on the official NFL salary cap.

          per OTC (https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles/) Eagles currently have $12.84m in space before signing Jeffery/Wisniewski which will add $14m and ~$2.5m to the salary cap. Pushing other players off 51 player cut off ‘saves ~$1.1m. So currently the Eagles need to clear $2.5m to make these signings (could be a little less depending on Wisniewski contract).

          Draft picks cost less than people think to sign since again they push players off the 51 man cap saving around ~$4m against their total cap hit of about $6.5m

          So Eagles need to find $2.5mil in cuts/restructures in the next 24 hours, and will need another ~$3mil or so by the draft. Any extra deals will need to have related cuts/trades/restructures to make possible as well.

          • Ark87

            the unfortunate piece is that the only reason a flurry of cuts haven’t happened is because we’re trying to trade them. Keeping these players we want to trade is completely off the table, and the guys we will have to cut aren’t likely to start bidding wars, so no one is going to trade for exclusive rights to my knowledge.

          • GermanEagle

            Good info, thanks.

          • James

            Thanks, where do you get 24 hours from though?

          • Fufina

            Just a rough timeline for when Jeffery actually signs his contract. I cannot imagine they will be able to delay it significantly more than that, although i guess Jeffery and his agent may be willing to wait a bit longer before putting pen to paper.

        • GermanEagle

          No. I was just kidding. I am sure the Eagles will be fine and not fined for that. Guess you will have to be under the cap once the season officially kicks off but I don’t know this for a fact…

  • James

    Brandon Graham comes in at No.9 of top players in the NFL according to PFF

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season/

    • A Roy

      He’s good…and I like him a lot, but that’s just BS.

      • James

        Second most hurries in the league is the stat they point to. Pretty impressive… now if he can just hit home more often.

        • A Roy

          Yeah. Hurries is subjective but sacks is fairly objective.

      • Tumtum

        I take this sort of like PECTOA rating the Orioles.

    • Ark87

      at first I read as #9 pass rusher and thought, “that’s fine I guess”. But #9 overall, whaaaaat

  • Jernst

    3 year deal for Wiz? With him and Warmack we must be making moves along the interior of our oline today, right?

    • Rob Jarratt

      It’s all about the W’s. Ha, ha.

  • GordonGekko

    Who is the retard that runs this site? He doesn’t offer anything.

    • Dominik

      You know what a “retarded” troll like you should do? Just go and fuck yourself. Leave us and the one who’s running this site alone.

      • GordonGekko

        What new/good info has this site had since yesterday ??

        • A_T_G

          It has taught me that my Discus block list was at least one user too short. Fixed, thanks!

        • truehaynes

          He doesn’t break news…that’s not his job or the point of this site.

          • GordonGekko

            Then what is the point of this site?

          • truehaynes

            Tommy talks about the eagles and does a good job of it. Which is why we come here to listen to his comments. He’s not out talking to agents trying to break news. He has a real job, this is what he does on the side. His site also has a large community of eagles fan who comment and talk ammoungst themselves. There’s nothing nefarious here. Yes there are adds, cool. We also donate money to Tommy for his time which is a choice. This site isn’t pretending to be a news source man, so stop trying to cause conflic that isn’t there. Hope that was helpful

          • GordonGekko

            You give money to this retard? You are a fucking idiot. Not only an idiot, but you are dumber than a NI GGER.

          • truehaynes

            Glad to see who were dealing with. Bye 🙂

          • GordonGekko

            Do you suck his DICK too?

      • GordonGekko

        Oh yeah, go fuck yourself too. See!! I can reply the same way.

    • Tumtum

      So you were half normal a week ago. What happened? You drunk? Actually mentally challenged?

      • GordonGekko

        What new/good info has this site had since yesterday?

        • Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard

          Block this troll. Don’t respond.

          • GordonGekko

            This site sucks, it’s written by 2 RETARDS!!! And you are one of them fucking RETARDS. HAHAHAHAHA

          • GermanEagle

            Bye bye.

          • Tumtum

            I did now, but this dude actually seemed almost normal a week ago. He probably lost his min wage gig and is hammered, taking it out on the world. Just wanted to check if that was the case.

        • Tumtum

          Oh… its the 2nd. You think Tommy is a reporter.

          Have a nice day, don’t forget your helmet when you go outside.

    • Bert’s Bells

      If you clicked the “About” button on the masthead you could find out.

      • GordonGekko

        OK. Now I see. These guys know nothing, just a bunch of losers that started a website to offer nothing to Eagles fans. Now I know why they get pissed at me here and want to know why I am so critical of this site, they are part of the comments here to generate fake clickbait ads. Well, this site fucking blows.

        • GermanEagle

          Bye.

  • Tumtum

    Pryor leaves Washington w/o deal. Maybe I really am not the only one that is worried about him being a jerk.

    • A Roy

      Watch him end up in New England…

      • Corry

        Latest rumor was him signing back with Cleveland.

    • anon

      who wants to be on a team w/ no quarterback and a crazy FO situation

      • Bert’s Bells

        Snyder to sign him as QB.

    • D3FB

      There’s only room enough for one giant asshole in DC

      • A Roy

        I assume you’re talking about the football club, cause there are significantly more than one if we add politicians to the list.

        • Bert’s Bells

          and “businessmen”

          • A Roy

            lobbyists…

          • Bert’s Bells

            What’s the difference between a “lobbyist” and a current member of the cabinet?

          • A Roy

            One gets paid big bucks now. One gets paid big bucks when they leave. Only difference is time.

          • Bert’s Bells

            Some in the Executive are getting paid the big bucks now.

          • A Roy

            Yeah, I got lots of opinions there, but I want to help keep the site apolitical and my wife says I swear too much.

          • GordonGekko

            You wife probably wants a real dick. Have her give me a BJ, HJ and a RIMJOB before I splatter her face with my paste.

          • GordonGekko

            You really are stupid if you don’t know what the difference is. There are at least 70 registered lobbyist for each member of congress.

          • Bert’s Bells

            I may be stupid but I’m not dumb enough to think that a Congressperson is in the Cabinet.

          • GordonGekko

            It’s congressman or congresswoman, not congressperson. You DUMBFUCK.

          • Bert’s Bells

            Is that so?

      • Julescat

        the Redskins have way more than one

      • A_T_G

        That has been disproven time and again, with new levels being set currently.

      • GordonGekko

        Yes, and you are it, you asshole dicksucker.

      • MattE

        Snyder covers much more than the DC metro area lol

  • GermanEagle

    Barring a re-instatement by the NFL, would you guys take a flyer on Josh Gordon?!

    • Julescat

      do you mean “pending a re-instatement”?

      • GermanEagle

        Yeah sure. Fixed. Thanks.

    • Fufina

      Isn’t he still a Brown? See no value in the Browns cutting him honestly at this point, and even if they did i doubt he would clear waivers 1-13 so the Eagles could grab him.

      • GermanEagle

        TBH I got lost with him being still with the Browns or not…?!

    • A_T_G

      I honestly cannot imagine that man getting his life together until he has destroyed any dream of playing football in his own mind. And I think that realization comes long after all of his actual chances have been used up.

      So, no.

    • Rellihcs

      Hell No.

      If what you want is to have two very nice homes – then you get two very nice homes, and someone says “I have this flashy mansion that is covered in napalm and has a crappy foundation – I can get it to you on the cheap – you in?” – the answer is hell no.

      Please stop searching for WRs.

    • Tumtum

      nah. Last year yeah.. now nah.

  • GermanEagle

    Rudy Ford with a 4.25 at his Pro Day…

  • Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard

    I can’t more strongly recommend everyone take advantage of Disqus’s block feature (click the arrow on the right). Don’t interact with the troll. It’s a kid and kids need attention. Starve ’em out.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/162e1285ba8146ee97fffc760fbc324409b3cb5b0b369db9c39edd20721bfb6f.jpg

    • A_T_G

      I love seeing the “This user is blocked.” message.

      I picture a small, trollish kid standing in an empty room whining, “Hey guys listen to this! Guys? Hey, where did everybody go? Aw, guys.”

      • GordonGekko

        You probably give money to this RETARDED writer. You are dumber than a
        NI GGER!

      • Tumtum

        Seems like this one actually has issues. Feel bad almost.

        • A Roy

          I’m shocked he’s still around. You said ‘Bye’ hours ago.

    • GordonGekko

      You probably give money to this RETARDED writer. You are dumber than a NI GGER.

    • A Roy

      Too late, I’ve already blocked him.

    • laeagle

      It’s the most wonderful thing ever. Even more wonderful is watching them try to scream into the void after they’re blocked and people tell them how sad and pathetic they are to be trolling in the first place. Impotence is a terrible thing, almost as bad as irrelevance.

  • Gian GEAGLE

    My favorite aspect of Eagles free agency is how deep our OL has become especially interior OL. Loving the OL depth.
    ..
    I like having Powerful interior OL with G/C versatility instead of a smaller C like Kelce who could never consider playing Guard. This should make for some exciting Camp battles.
    ..
    For me Signing Alshon is like getting DEZ Bryant, big physicak Wrs who earn their money coming down with 50/50 balls which Should be a god send for a young QB that wants to be aggressive with his throws
    ..
    If HOWIE can miraculously pull off Keeping Bennie logan I’ll be in Eagle Heaven

    • GermanEagle

      Looks like Eagles showing heavy interest in Giants DT Hankins whom I wouldn’t mind personally as a potential Logan replacement.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        If we have to lose Bennie, Hankins would be a solid replacement

        • GermanEagle

          Plus he’s 3 years younger.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            Hoping Logan doesn’t end up playing for one of our rivals

          • Sb2bowl

            Wasn’t expecting Bennie to be 28 when I saw that today…….. no wonder we are moving on.

    • A_T_G

      I mostly agree. I think Wiz was a waste of resources, particularly if the details of the contract mean that it is truly a 3-yr deal. I would have rather seen that go the Logan and leave room for youth on the OL.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        If the eagles want to get RId of Kelce, than im absolutely thrilled to have Wiz back. I’d prefer having a young Center(Isaac) and a capable veteran starting Center… I want two of these 3 on the roster( Sumalo, Wiz, Kelce)
        ..
        Wiz/Seumalo give us two capable centers
        ..
        Seumalo, Wiz, Barbie, Warmack give us 4 capable Guards to battle it out
        ..
        Lane, JP, Vaitai, Barbie give us 4 capable OTs
        ..
        I’d be thrilled going into a season with that type of depth

    • Ark87

      I like the bigger guys for the power they might provide in the run game, my one reservation is it’s a tad old school. Interior pass rush has become one of the most important parts of defense in recent years. You really need more athleticism these days to deal with all the crap they send up the middle now. Used to be if you could anchor, you could pass protect in the interior well enough. I’m going to have to take a closer look at our big boys in the middle to see what we’re building

  • GordonGekko

    A DUMB NI GGER COULD DO A BETTER JOB ON THIS SITE THAN THIS RETARD.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Press Conf coming up shortly

  • RC5000

    I didn’t see any discussion of this.

    Report: Eagles showing "lots of love" to Giants DT Johnathan Hankins https://t.co/fTyogoW65N— BleedingGreenNation (@BleedingGreen) March 10, 2017

    • A_T_G

      I’m interested.

    • D3FB

      Unless Howie has the ability to fiat money, I don’t see how that’s happening.

      • bill

        I’m starting to think he has a destination for Chase. Too much money spent on OL and WR so far, with other positions clearly needing to be addressed, even if cheaply, in FA.

        • Gian GEAGLE

          I missed what Howie was saying in the press conference about Chase, but it’s unlikely HOWIE would tip his hand either way so Probably doesn’t matter
          ..
          Wonder how much cheaper we could get FOles compared to what we are paying Chase?

          • A Roy

            There’s gotta be $3-5M difference.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            If that’s the case, I’d find swapping Chase for FOles very beneficial.
            ..
            Is it safe to assume that the dead money associated with getting out of the Chase contract eliminates the benefit of signing FOles to 3-5mil less than what we are paying Chase?
            ..
            Is finding a team to trade for Chase the only way that would make sense?
            ..
            Chase value is helping Wentz, I’d actually trust FOles more than Chase if Wentz needed to miss a few games and we need a backup QB to win enough games to keep us afloat

          • Sb2bowl

            If we can trade Chase, we have $2m in dead money on the cap, versus a $6m savings. So, we’d have esentially $4m to play with for his replacement.

          • A Roy

            OTC has Chase at $7M salary in 2017. If he’s traded, they have to capture $2M in bonus. So, it appears it’s a $5M savings. I assume we could get FOles for $2.5-3M, so I revise my estimate to $2-2.5M

          • Gian GEAGLE

            That would still be worth while savings in my opinion
            ..
            Guess it Probably comes down to what the eagles value more in Backup QB this year, a mentor to Wentz, or a QB with the best chance of winning games if called upon. Then again I really haven’t seen chase play enough to just assume FOles would give us a better chance to win games, but if it’s close between the two backups go with the Cheaper option, unless that Glennon deal inflates the price tag of free agent backup Qbs more than we think

    • bill

      Eagles would possibly be starting 4 of the top 50 picks from 2013 if this were to happen. #worthless trivia

  • Gian GEAGLE

    There is nothing funnier than seeing washington get its shit together for a year or two just to nose dive back into extreme depths of Dysfunction

  • RC5000

    Howie claims they’re keeping Kelce fwiw.

    • FairOaks

      Probably trying to trade him.

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Just like they “kept” Bradford. Also known as holding him hostage until someone coughs up the value we are looking for

    • Fufina

      To be honest it makes much more sense to restructure some other contract and keep Kelce into training camp than cutting him today. Allows you to evaluate how the line comes together, injuries and increases the chances/leverage to keep him longer term.

      Kelce gets paid $0 from now until training camp, and only starts to get paid his $5mil salary if he makes the 53.

    • MattE

      howie is a hell of poker player

  • kajomo

    HR press conference on right now

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Is it on CSN?

      • GermanEagle

        Live on the Eagles app!

        • Gian GEAGLE

          Thanks

  • Gian GEAGLE

    Chance Warmack used to complain that his college coach (Stoutland) was better than the OL coaching he was Recieving by the Titans… Guess it’s time to put his money where his mouth is now. If Change of scenery gets him closer to realizing his full potential the kid has a chance to play his way into stability here. Still a young kid

    • Crus57

      Wouldn’t the cowboys be crowing about getting another 1st round pick right about now? I know “it only takes one team to love him” for him to go high, but surely being picked #10 overall must mean he has serious potential.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Basically…

      • Sb2bowl

        I read up on his NFL draft grades and comparisons last night – almost everyone had him as their highest rated G, and some stated that he was the best PLAYER in the draft. He was thought that highly of during the process.

        This is a great buy low option with tremendous upside potential. If Stoutland can’t bring it back out of him, we can cut our losses and move on.

        • GENETiC-FREAK

          Dont forget Cooper went before Warmack. Cowgirls signed Cooper too.

        • Gian GEAGLE

          Absolutely, especially since we have enough guard talent on the roster to where it won’t screw us if Chance can’t produce.
          ..
          Chance and Alshon are basically betting on themselvs, and we are leasing them with an option to buy
          ..
          Chance was thought of as the safest prospect in his draft class and the best Guard, but Cooper got taken ahead of him because he had a ton of athletic upside. As a prospect, Chance kind of reminded me a bit of shawn Andrews, big powerful road grader. We are getting Chance on the cheap, if the change of scenery DOESNT serve him well we move on with no problem with Capable guards Brooks, Suemalo, Wiz or Barbie. if Stoutland can get chance to realize his full potential it would be absolutely huge for our future because this kid does not lack for talent

          • Sb2bowl

            Agreed- I like the one year prove it deals, especially at that price; what I’m not a fan of would be paying 2 guards near the top of the market rate.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            I understand that, but it’s not as bad if we have a starting Center and a starting RT who have years of service ahead of them on rookie contracts.

  • RC5000

    Howie sidestepped question about will there be corresponding moves today? Said he didn’t want to reveal strategy.

    • D3FB

      Subtext “Yeah I’m tryna trade some of these dudes”

  • MattE

    1 year deals = moneyball strategy for football?

    Seeing Dontari Poe might be going 1 year deal route with Falcons….. Bennie gonna go 1 year with us? Revis seemed to do really well through his career pulling free agency status every 2 years lol. Players starting to sacrifice contract security for annual free agency and bigger short term paydays? With how exponential spending is in the NFL, why would players want to be locked in a deflated value contract 3 years in?

    • MattE

      i know players dont like getting franchise tagged, but they have to LOVE the pay structure of it….. I would risk security for Top-5 positional paydays every year.

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Considering most long term contracts are just bullshit that the team can get out of after a year or two, not really much down side to players opting for shorter deals. Might as well give yourself the same right to leave or renegotiate that teams get when they give you a bullshit 5 yr deal that is really just a two year deal anyway

    • Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard

      You’re seeing this in baseball and basketball with contracts with opt outs after one year.

      • MattE

        agreed. players are starting to realize in an exponential market it is probably better to take the risk and re-position your value annually vs. long term security.

        • Gian GEAGLE

          Especially since price Tag of positions increase every year. There is always a FA who wants to become the highest paid player at his position. So a guy who signs a deal making him the highest paid DT in the NFL, two years later he becomes like the 8th highest paid player at his position because contracts get’more lucrative almost every offseason

        • MattE

          long term security goes along with straight line growth, NFL is certainly exponential.

        • A Roy

          Except that careers can be over on the next play, the next practice, the next workout in the weight room, the next . Some players prefer more guarantee as insurance. Plus, you need a team willing to sign you for a short term, too.

          • MattE

            yeah obviously, but there is a tier of players at each position where i think that flips and it will probably financially be better for them to bet on themselves…. depth guys, journeymen type obviously want security.

          • A Roy

            Yeah. Once you’ve made your nut you can take a chance. Like betting with house money at the casino.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        We are even seeing NBÁ players taking short two year deals because they are smart enough to forsee drastic cap increases down the road

  • P_P_K

    My wife asked why I was in such a good mood. I told her I was psyched because the Eagles had a great day yesterday. Her reply, indicative of years of marriage to an Eagles fan; “Sure they had a great day. They weren’t playing football.”

    • MattE

      wow.

      …….and I thought Howie was ruthless by only giving Torrey Smith $500,000 guaranteed lol

      • P_P_K

        My wife could have cut that in half.

    • laeagle

      I got something very similar

      • P_P_K

        We deserve it for dragging them into Eagles Nation.

    • ChoTime

      2012 redux!

  • myartz04

    So, what number is Agholar sheepishly going to take?

    • MattE

      N/A

    • GermanEagle

      00

      • P_P_K

        -00

      • A Roy

        or 000

    • Corry

      I don’t know. I only follow the Eagles.

      • anon

        ouch

    • Rellihcs

      89 is what Madden auto assigned Alshon post trade for huff in my world so i will go with that.

    • ChoTime

      32. His ranking in starting receivers.

      • Ark87

        Wasn’t his actual ranking like 118 or something?

        • ChoTime

          Yeah, I just went with him being the worst of all #2s. But with all the 3 WR sets and injuries, it’s possible he really did perform that bad.

  • Ryan Rambo

    Andrew Siciliano‏Verified account @AndrewSiciliano 2m2 minutes ago
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    With RGIII’s release, 21 of 32 picks from 2012 1st round have either changed teams, are out of football, suspended, or unsigned free agents.

    • bill

      And the Eagles’ top 3 picks are still on the team. (Had to type that fast – it’s not going to be true for too much longer).

  • Gian GEAGLE

    Wish we could trade for the young RB of the Bears (Howard). Our offense would be set with a talented Powerback like him running behind our Beefed up interior OL. We also have a ton of size at WR to smash DBs blocking in the run game.
    ..
    Of course the Bears would laugh at us if we called about trading for Howard especially since they plan on leaning heavily on the run
    ..
    Smallwood and SPROLES can handle the screen game, I’d like to see a big physical RB to put the cherry on top of our offense

    • RC5000

      Samaje Perine

      • Sb2bowl

        I like him, and he seems like a good dude as well.

      • xmbk

        Foreman, the new heavyweight king.

    • P_P_K

      Like ACViking says below, the Bears aren’t getting rid of Howard. How about drafting Cook or Fournette?

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Bears would laugh at a team for calling them about Howard’s availability. Just like the Cardinals and Dolphins won’t part with their young backs
        ..
        Doubt Fournette is still available at #14. I don’t mind spending a 1st on a special RB talent, but no way can I ever be ok packaging picks to trade up in round 1 for a RB, THATS where I draw the line
        ..
        If Cook has the highest grade available when it’s our time to pick. Be my guest, but targeting certain positions with a top 15 pick is really foolish. Need The most Special talent available regardless of position with the exception of QB or Safety. Hopefully one of the top 10 prospects get in trouble for something dumb, nothing too serious, just serious enough for a top 5 talent to fall down to #14 like Tunsil falling to Miami for smoking weed (even tho he didn’t fail drug test) and getting caught accepting Money in College… Hopefully a serious talent like Foster or Fournette end up falling to 14, but if a RB is the BPA, we should absolutely draft him.
        .
        We NEED to hit on serious blue chip talent in the draft much more than we need to address certain positions

    • ACViking

      If we’re go in this direction . . .

      I’d rather ask the Cowboys to trade us Ezekiel Elliott.

      • P_P_K

        I’m the fool who wanted the Eagles to take Zeke last year instead of Wentz.

        • MattE

          would have been win-win either way i think….except we would have save draft picks taking Zeke and Wentz might have ended up in a Cowboys jersey….. #Earth-2

          • P_P_K

            Zeke is a rare talent but the Eagles needed a qb to build around. I didn’t think Carson had the big-time college experience to pull it off in the NFL. Glad I was wrong.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            I never seen Carson play, and typically only a blowhard would claim that they want a player they had never seen over a special talent they know very well (Zeke)
            ..
            My OPPINIONS on the Qbs last year was pretty simple:
            1) I seen enough of Goff not to want anything to do with him
            2) I know nothing about Carson so he wins by default over a QB prospect I don’t want

          • P_P_K

            While I’m confessing my sins, I also wanted Goff over Wentz. Good thing intelligent people ignore me.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            No worries, once you get paid to make those decisions, then I’ll hold your feet to the fire
            ..
            Im certainly not going to take credit for being on the right side of Goff vs Wentz just because of my sheer ignorance of not knowing enough about Wentz to not want him

          • P_P_K

            If I’m ever on trial, I’d want you on a jury of my peers.

          • P_P_K

            Somewhere in a parallel universe, the Eagles took Zeke and the Cowboys took Wentz. Then the Eagles later took Prescott.

          • RobNE

            no it really wouldn’t have.

    • kajomo

      Joe Mixon in the 5th?

      • GermanEagle

        No to scum, thanks.

        • kajomo

          I obviously get the adversity to Mixon, but I am willing to compromise every moral I have to win a SB. The patriots cheat all the time and I’m still envious of their championships. Mixon makes this offense better. goodbye morals, Hello mixon

          • MattE

            yeah Pro-Sports aren’t exactly a source of moral values, it’s entertainment, so entertain me damnit!

            …..everyone still deals with Charlie Sheen

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Someone will take that scumbag in round 2 unfortunately

    • Rellihcs

      Why waste your time breaking the covet commandment? Howard isn’t the only rb in the world.

  • P_P_K
  • Gian GEAGLE

    “I texted Carson The other day and I told him he would be an MVP one day. carson straught up said he didn’t care about being MVP, he wants to win a Super Bowl” Alshon Jeffries on Ginger Jesus

    • Rellihcs

      Please learn how to spell our savior’s last name.

      • ChoTime

        Not gonna happen.

  • MattE

    Holy hell i just realized DJax is pairing up with Mike Evans, not to shabby.

    • eagleyankfan

      Good kid…little slow 🙂

  • laeagle

    Ha!

    AdamSchefter: NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has emerged as a candidate to become Washington’s general manager, sources tell @FieldYates and me.

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Not sure how true it is, but a reporter tweeted that during the season he heard that a lot of The people in the skins building were jealous of the credit the GM was getting and that they would eventually use his drinking as an excuse to get rid of him…. If there is any truth to this, they are even more dysfunctional than we think

      • Julescat

        trashing him after firing him was low class

        even for the Redskins

        • anon

          worse than us and djax

          • Julescat

            a bit worse

            Chip Kelly was an azz

  • Ryan Rambo

    Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 10m10 minutes ago
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    NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has emerged as a candidate to become Washington’s general manager, sources tell @FieldYates and me.

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Mayock has to be crazy to leave his cushy gig to go work for Dan Snyder

      • Julescat

        after how they treated the last GM, anyone would be crazy to take that job

      • Checkdown Charlie

        Plus, I really like the work he does o our pre-season games.

    • Tumtum

      What in the…

    • Sean Stott

      Not sure who loses more, the Redskins for having Mayock as talent evaluator, or Mayock for having Dan Snyder as a boss.

    • Dave

      Being a scouting guru and managing a billion dollar operation are 2 different things.

      Elway had a mulit-million dollar business empire of car dealerships for many years before he became a GM.

      Millen had no management experience and failed miserably.

      IMO, Lynch is destined to fail without management experience and so will Mayock.

  • A_T_G

    This tweet brought to you by Frank Gore…
    https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/840287723332227073

    • P_P_K

      Yes!

  • Gian GEAGLE

    Wonder if the Eagles turned their attention to trading for CB Trumaine Johnson now that trading for Cooks is Probably out the window? I’d be lying out my ass if I said I have seen the Rams play more than a game or two the last few years so I have no clue what his true value is. Im hoping we can acquire at least 1 player via trade this offseason
    ..
    Wonder what joe Douglas thinks of Ladaruis Webb who the Ravens cut?
    ..
    If we can’t get a significant upgrade at starting CB in Free Agency, Hopefully we can get two cheaper corners like Nolan Carrolr and Kavon and go into the draft with something like Nolan Carroll, Kavon, Jalen Mills, and hope we can come out of the draft with a corner or two, No clue if Kavon is any good but if a team has a gem at CB Burried on their bench it could be the Broncos who have 3 really BIGTIME starting corners ahead of him and at least he would be another quality ST contributor to our bad ass ST unit
    ..
    But we could use more talent at every position on defense except Safety

    • xmbk

      No way we can afford him, and I really don’t like using future money for the present. Team isn’t in position to justify that, either.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        I agree with that, but im not sure HOWIE is done working his magic on our cap space. But I think it’s likely we will have to go bargain shopping at corner and address it at some poïnt in the draft

  • xmbk

    Alshon and Torrey were had for the same price as DJax and either Britt or Woods. Very impressive job by Roseman.

  • Gian GEAGLE

    “even tho we struggled in San Fran, I know I still had the respect of opponents by the coverages they threw at me, and always matchup up their #1 CBs against me”-Torrey Smith

  • Ryan Rambo

    Tim McManus‏Verified account @Tim_McManus 4m4 minutes ago

    At 4 p.m., $4.35 million of Mychal Kendricks’ salary becomes guaranteed. Sources say the plan is to keep him on the roster past the deadline

    • xmbk

      He’s still very tradeable with a guaranteed 5 mill. I have to imagine that something is in the works.

    • Sb2bowl

      I thought that happened on Saturday?

      • johhnyblaze

        They had to be cut by 4pm today or money became guaranteed

  • Ryan Rambo

    Adam Schefter‏Verified account
    @AdamSchefter

    Carolina trading DE Kony Ealy and a third-round pick to Patriots in exchange for New England’s second-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

  • Ryan Rambo

    Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago

    Washington giving WR Terrelle Pryor a one-year, $8 million deal, per sources.

    • Sb2bowl

      WoW

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Lol go from one dysfunctional franchise to the Next. I’d be friggin furious if im a Browns fan and we just lost him over $8mil.

        • Sb2bowl

          That’s insane, for sure. $8m for that guy and a team that has money to blow on BROCK OHMYDON’THURTMEWILER lets him walk for nothing? Geez…… he must really be an asshole.

          Maybe he can get the ForeSkins GM job after his contract expires?

    • GermanEagle

      Is it known yet if he signed as a WR or if he’s there to play QB for them?!

  • Gian GEAGLE

    the Browns should have mercy and just waive Joe Haden and Joe Thomas, those dudes deserve a year or two playing for something before their games significantly decline.
    ..
    Football is too Physical and Taxing on your body for two classy BALLERS to spend their entire careers playing for absolutely NOTHING

    • Sb2bowl

      Lets trade Kendricks for Hayden. And get him to take a reduced salary for coming here.

  • Ryan Rambo

    More
    UPDATE – Terrelle Pryor’s one-year, $8MM #Redskins deal more like $6MM + incentives:
    https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/03/breaking-redskins-to-sign-terrelle-pryor

    • A_T_G

      If you were this guy’s agent getting him out of CLE, knowinging that he has a history of personality conflicts on all his past teams, wouldn’t you send him pretty much anywhere else before WAS?

  • Ryan Rambo

    Brandon Lee Gowton‏Verified account @BrandonGowton 3m3 minutes ago

    Chance Warmack says he feels like Eagles OL coach Jeff Stoutland is going to take him to the next level.

    • Ark87

      That would make 1 person he took to the next level

      • Rellihcs

        Ouch, did ok with Barbre, Seumalo, and Big Vee….

        • Ark87

          Yeah, I’m just spoiled by guys like Juan and Mudd occasionally developing late rounders and nobody FA’s into great players. If he can turn Warmack into a starter, transition Lane over to LT and be one of the best (as he is capable of) and making, who are we looking at for RT, Vaitai? Him into a good RT. Then all will be forgiven.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            Lane was raw as hell when he got he, Stoutland has been his only NFL coach, gotta give him credit for that.
            .
            It’s too soon to know, but Stoutland seemed to have Vaitai and Seumalo heading in the right direction as rookies.
            .
            I think It says a lot that like Coach Fipp, Stoutland has survived regime changes and coming from College he has always seemed to have the respect and admiration of veterans like Herremans, Kelce, Peters, Mathis.
            .
            Im encouraged by Stoutlands history in Philly. I don’t think wanting to replace him has ever crossed my mind.

          • Ark87

            It crossed mine during the Chip era. Just about, yeah everyone of Mudd’s guys regressed (though Peters, a Juan guy actually, was due to age) but the guys we are getting now look more like the guys he had at bama, big war daddies as opposed to sleek and athletic guys that Mudd liked and chip like for the zone scheme. So maybe now that he is getting guys he wants, he is turning the corner.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            That’s a good point. Our Personel now is certainly looking more like what he had at Bama. Hopefully it makes a big difference.
            .
            Im really excited about having Warmack, that’s a talented, powerful young man

          • Ark87

            Agreed, he’s obviously talented. Alshon and Smith, we pretty much know what we’re getting. Warmack is that diamond in the rough that could be the steal of FA

          • Gian GEAGLE

            It doesn’t always work out (See Schwartz connection with Leodis McKelvin), but with the pretty significant bust ration that comes with paying free agents from other teams, I do appreciate that they seem to be targeting playërs from other teams who we really know and already have relationships with.
            Joe douglas and our WRs coach with Alshon
            Chance Warmack and Stoutland
            Schwartz with Nigel Bradham and Brooks
            .
            I don’t know how much it helps, but Im sure familiarity and pre-existing relationships with Playërs we target certainly won’t hurt.. the More Info we have the better chance we have of making the best decisions

          • PacificPurl

            Let us not forget who brought Stoutland and Fipp here.

      • ChoTime

        Which would be one more than Greg Lewis did, amirite?

  • Gian GEAGLE

    “nelson can have #17, im ready to leave #17 in Chicago”-AJ

    • A_T_G

      That was his best line in the presser.

  • GermanEagle

    Geez Louise

    AJ is so nervous. Feel almost sorry for him…

    • A_T_G

      Yep. He was OTAs Doug P levels of nervous.

      • GermanEagle

        Thankfully he’s not our HC..

    • Gian GEAGLE

      Yeah but he is did a better job and seemed more comfortable in his 1 on 1 interview with Barkaan

  • Tom33

    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/alshon-jeffery-thank-you-chicago-bears-eagles/

    Love the end where he doubts the Linc can be as loud as the Vet was in “Invincible” The first time Wentz throws him a pass and he doesn’t drop it I think the place will explode…

    • Crus57

      first time he scores on the cowboys should be an experience.

    • Dave

      That was pretty cool

    • daveH

      Thats great TY.

    • xmbk

      If he really wrote that himself, pretty impressive.

    • GermanEagle

      If AJ wrote this by himself, he’s already one of my favourite Eagles. Might be time again to buy an Eagles jersey.

  • GermanEagle

    Alshon Jeffery’s contract is 1 year, 9.5 million with 4.5 million in incentives, etc.

    Maybe that’s why The Eagles didn’t need to release anybody yet??

    • A_T_G

      It seems as if putting Howie in a shitty cap situation for the first time ever forced him to up his game. He is killing it.

      • Fufina

        For the 4.5m to not count against the cap they need to be unexpected bonuses, so must be things like probowl, allpro, career highs in catches or td’s. So there has to be a good chance Jeffery only gets paid 9.5m this year which is crazy value when you look at what garçon or DeSean got

        • anon

          him and pryor got similar deals, problem is look at jeffery’s production and suspension and injuries.

          • GermanEagle

            I would rather argue look at what a dick Pryor must be…

        • Jernst

          Unexpected as defined by the league = didn’t happen last year. So it could be something as simple as 55 catches or 900 yards.

          • FairOaks

            Or three touchdowns.

        • D3FB

          It’s based off last years stats when he only played 12 games, (so game bonuses will only be 12/16 LTBE) and for stats he was like 800 and 2 TDs, so easy to cook a couple million into next year with that.

      • ChoTime

        Great price for a one year rental, I agree.

      • GermanEagle

        Howie you God.

      • Howie Littlefinger

        Love me some Howie.

        About time he gets some credit.

  • Gian GEAGLE

    It’s a shame Ryan Mathews can’t be trusted with ball security and staying healthy because it would be fun to see his explosive, violent style of running behind a seriously Beefed up OL who should be significantly improved at moving the line of scrimmage with our clear shift from smaller quicker OL to Big, Power Lineman. Our OL is going to be a lot bigger than it was under chip. Warmack, Seumalo, and Big Daddy Brooks are all bigger than the interior OL chip kelly went with. I don’t want to get into debate of smaller more athletic OL vs Bigger Power OL, but I think at the very least it’s safe to say we will see a signifcant upgrade in moving bodies in short yardage situations.
    ..
    Hopefully we can see a big improvement in presnap OL penalties compared to last year. We also need to cut down on the fumbles between Center/QB exchanges. Don’t want to see Carson having to bail out the center so often whether it’s Kelce, Suemalo or The Wiz

  • Gian GEAGLE

    Offseason just started and I think the Eagles already have significantly closed the gap on how much more offensive Talent Dak Prescott had than Carson. Our OL is getting better while Dallas lost depth (It’s key Reserve Leary)
    Alshon for me is very similar to DEZ Bryant without the nightmare personality
    Ertz, Celek, Burton > Dallas TE group
    if we can also add a legit #1 RB, HOWIE will have done a great job closing the talent gap on offense bêtween us and Dallas. Once that happens, im still confident Wentz proves to be the better QB,
    ..
    I also don’t think its a bad thing that Carson had to play thru a lot more adversity than Dak did as rookies, but it’s important to not put Wentz in that position too long or we risk developing Bad habbits, It’s going to be interesting to compare and contrast the two young NFC East QBs now that it looks like they will have similar talent to work with in their sophmore season. it’s also interesting that this is both of their first offseasons as Staring QBs so both are going to get every opportunity to improve, going to be interesting to see who makes the most of it
    ..
    Washington better figure out if Cousins is Their guy or not, and the Giants better start looking at life After Eli or the skins/Giants risk giving the Eagles and Cowboys a huge head start in rebuilding for the post Tom Brady, Brees, Rothlisberger era
    .
    If Our Front Office can pull a gem of a draft out of there ass next year could be more interesting than I anticipated

    • Sean Stott

      Some good points, but I don’t agree our TEs are better than Dallas. Jason Witten is a HOFer, and catches anything and everything. We also still don’t have someone like Zeke or Beasley, who can be reliable guys to move the chains.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        I don’t think our Offense is at the dallas level yet, but I think we already have taken some significant steps in closing that talent gap and the offseason just started. dallas lost Leary already. are they also losing Terrence Williams? Pretty sure they retained Brice Butler.
        Witten hands are fine, the rest of him is declining and can’t possibly perform at that level much longer. While Witten is a declining player at the end of his career I think Ertz and Burton are clearly still ascending young players, and Celek is every bit as effective as Witten when it comes to blocking. I think dallas is still looking for Wittens replacement. I wouldn’t even consider trading our TE’s for the Cowboys TE’s
        .
        Dallas has added Nothing to there offense yet, if anything they are losing talent. Eagles have significantly improved the talent in our WR room, and potentially also improved our starting OL. With the very least improving our OL depth. As we stand today I think it’s fair to say we have closen the offensive talent gap sorrounding the two young QBs. We clearly ARENT there yet, but with a good draft things could get interesting.
        .
        Think Dallas is going to dump all their resources into building their defense. Not sure their offense will look much different. Regardless of what Dallas does, I think we will need at least two quality Offseasons to get where we need to be, so far so good
        ..
        I also think as fans too often we rule out struggling young players. It’s still early enough in the careers of struggling young Eagles to become better than we think. We are going to really find out about our coaching staff because there is a lot of untapped potential on this roster. if we can salvage one or two of our underachieving puppies it will make a huge difference (MS2, Agholar, DGB). If those kids fail in the NFL it won’t be for a lack of talent

      • GermanEagle

        Witten. Is. Done.

  • A_T_G

    Mayock’s is saying the WASTEAM GM rumors are BS.

  • Ankerstjernen

    Everyone is burying the lead here. Have we resigned Bryan Braman yet? There can be no champonship without him.

  • Dave

    As much as I hate the Redskins, the vitriol the media is putting out against them about badmouthing Scot McCloughan is misplaced. Anyone who has a hardcore alcoholic in their family can attest how they ruin everyone’s life around them.

    Many in the media would have you believe McCloughin’s drunkenness had no impact on others at work, they just want to remind everyone how much of a scouting genius he is and how he has a famous father. If he worked the hours everyone said he did, that means not only was he drinking on the job, he was most-likely drunk at work.

    Who will the media blame when he is drunk and kills someone with his car?

    The only way McCloughan should ever be allowed back in the NFL is as a speaker to rookies on the dangers of alcoholism.

    • Julescat

      unprofessional that they mentioned it at all

    • anon

      Booze wasn’t the problem as i understand…Skins’ president wanted to be the GM, they use the booze to railroad him. Look at the dysfunctionality with their QB, says he won’t even negotiate a deal if Bruce Allen is there.

      • Fufina

        Thats what some DC beat reporters are saying anyway. Problem Skins have is that McCloughan has a lot of friends in the league and has earned a lot of respect, which means that people are going to be naturally critical of how things are being handled.

        • anon

          well and their QB issues and their issues pre-scott sort of confirm that version of the story. Look at what he did for that franchise while he was there, it’s unbelievable they’d let him leave.

          • Julescat

            I would assume McCloughan has grounds to sue the team. You are really not allowed to publicly smear someone like that.

          • Tumtum

            Well Scot didn’t have anything to do with drafting Kirk, that was while he was in Seattle, right?

          • FairOaks

            No, but he was probably instrumental in convincing Snyder to move on from RGIII and actually give Cousins a chance. Which ended the circus atmosphere and let them be a real team.

          • Tumtum

            I give the dude lots of credit, he turned that team into a solid roster. Just not any credit in that area at all.

          • FairOaks

            McCloughan was hired in January 2015. It was the 2015 preseason where RGIII was still the presumed starter, with all of the circus still there. And it was during that preseason that they completely benched RGIII (turning him into a safety on the scout team, if memory serves), and handing the reins to Cousins. *Somebody* had to convince Snyder to allow that after investing so much in him — maybe it was Gruden, but as the new, outsider voice, you suspect McCloughan had a lot to do with that. Gruden clearly wanted to play Cousins, but even in early August 2015 he was still having to make public statements about going forward with RGIII. It’s hard to imagine Gruden alone changing Snyder’s mind. It’s hard to believe Bruce Allen (who engineered the RGIII trade) was the voice of sanity.

          • Tumtum

            Ok ok. You make a good argument my friend!

      • Dave

        This article was written 3 1/2 weeks before he was hired by the Redskins. It might make you think otherwise.

        http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12014699/scot-mccloughan-nfl-best-talent-scout-self-employed-living-farm

        • Tumtum

          Good story. Doesn’t really change my perception.

        • D3FB

          He is an alcoholic. His alcoholism is not the reason he’s being fired.

    • laeagle

      This assumes you buy what Chris Cooley was selling. Yes, alcoholism is destructive. It’s also terribly destructive and unfair to accuse recovering alcoholics of falling off the wagon if it’s not true and you’re just trying to cover your ass.

      At this point, I’m willing to give Scot the benefit of the doubt over the shitstain WFT, given its long and tawdry history.

    • Bert’s Bells

      I could be wrong about this, but isn’t it illegal to fire someone with “alcoholism” as cause?

      • Dave

        DC is an “employment-at-will” district. Unless he was in rehab, they could fire him at any time and for any reason.

        • Tumtum

          DC isn’t. VA is until the process of that being voted out last elections goes on. If that is the same thing as “right to work”. Team facility in VA.

          • Dave
          • Tumtum

            Yeah that is something different than right to work. As far as I know though Skins have sites in MD and VA. Don’t know of anything in the district. Not sure what laws would apply to him.

          • Dave

            My bad, sometimes I forget that not all teams are located in the city or state of their team name…Those darn NJ Jets/Giants and Santa Clara 49ers. Now I’m curious to know how many NFL teams are not actually located in the city or state of their team name.

          • Tumtum

            Gillette is actually like 45 min from Boston, in the middle of no where. Played a tournament there, and stayed in Boston..mistake.

          • Dave

            But technically it’s still New England. The Eagles we’re almost going to be in Conshohocken when they were looking for a site to build the Linc.

          • FairOaks

            I don’t think it was voted out in VA. The referendum was whether to enshrine the employment-at-will law in the constitution, making it harder to change, which failed — but it’s still the (long-standing) law.

          • Tumtum

            Seems you are right. I didn’t even know it was up for vote until election night. Working just over the potomac from Georgetown, for a union, it was really interesting. The wording was confusing though, one of my VA resident coworkers wasn’t actually sure if he had voted for or against his interest.

    • Tumtum

      Funny no stories have been leaked about his intoxication at work. After work he can drink 3 bottles of Jamison. As long as he comes to work and performs as he does what he does after work, of it doesn’t violate his contract, is none of their concern.

      The assertion by reporters is that Skins are dishonest. If it was actually for cause the timing seems convenient.

    • FairOaks

      Yes, it was well known at the time he was hired. It obviously cost him a job with the Seahawks, etc. But there hasn’t been a mention about anything serious related to that during his tenure, and in particular no leaked news about any particular incident which the Redskins could point to as a reason.

      There has been plenty of evidence of friction between him and Allen, and it probably came to ahead over Cousins. And it sounds like Allen won that power struggle. The alcohol stuff sure feels like it was more of a smear job to distract away from the real reasons, which is I’m sure what most are questioning. It’s always possible there was an incident, of course. But it feels more like a misleading leak to focus attention elsewhere, something of a smear job. A more mundane power struggle seems most likely.

  • daveH

    Dont toss your Agholar jersies out y’all. . Just tape over the new name .. ill make the new namw tape for anyone

    • GermanEagle

      Nah, we’re not Browns fans owning a QB jersey. Thanks.

  • CrackSammich

    Do we even have CB on the roster at this point?

    • Rellihcs

      Mills, Brooks

    • D3FB

      Mills, Brooks (probably gonna be cut once he gets healthy), CJ Smith, Grymes, the CFL dude.

      • CrackSammich

        So, no?

  • scratcherk

    Who’s the cb to target in wave two??

    • GermanEagle

      Webster, Broncos.

  • Dave
    • Insomniac

      Carroll on Alshon? Yes please.

      • Dave

        Carroll on anybody, even Ags…Yes please.

        • Insomniac

          Ags would bobble the ball and Carroll would pick it off.

          • Dave

            Oh Snap! It’s a 3 year deal! Ags may have learned to catch the ball by then.

  • GermanEagle

    AJ vs Nolan Caroll. Can’t wait. LolCowboys

    • anon

      Paying for all that eagles knowledge

  • Media Mike

    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/840360890402799620

    Certainly not what New Orleans claimed he was worth.

    • Media Mike

      Cooks running underneath Gronk’s up the seam routes are going to be filthy.

      • Ark87

        Like literally running between his legs, ah the ole Trojan Horse offense. Yes it will probably be pretty sweaty and unsanitary

        • Media Mike

          Or smell like greatness and some chicks from the Gronk party boat.

  • Nailed It!

    The rich get richer.

  • Nailed It!

    So the Pats get Cooks and don't give up Butler. He's now paired with Gilmore AND they get Ealy. https://t.co/cFfIVkvfTd— trey wingo (@wingoz) March 11, 2017

    • Nailed It!

      God I hate Belichick with everything I have but damn do I respect the man.

      • P_P_K

        It’s his pact with Satan that makes it all possible.

        • A_T_G

          The real kicker is when he is done coaching, he’ll trade some second rate special teamer to Cleveland in exchange for a soul to satisfy his debt to Satan.

          • P_P_K

            And how is it that you are so familiar with the ways of the evil ones?

    • lonfident

      So Rowe won’t get the 50% of snaps or whatever it is we needed him to for the higher pick either

  • Media Mike

    https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/840363520780845057

    Cleveland’s whole draft to New England for Jimmy G?

  • anon

    Kind Early would have been nice

  • Bert’s Bells
    • BlindChow

      “star cornerback” “playmaker”

      lmao

    • truehaynes

      Reads like a Breitbart article

  • Flyineagle45

    Fun question. Would the Patriots be a dynasty if they didn’t get 4-6 free games playing in the AFC East? How do you think they would have faired in the NFC East since their superbowls?

    • teltschikfakeout88

      are you trolling….he’s got 4 rings and played NFC teams to get em…

      • Flyineagle45

        Lost 2 should have been 3 to NFC East teams….

      • Flyineagle45

        They play some of the crappiest teams in football 2 games a season each. Def increases the odds sure you have to win a few games at from the division.

      • RobNE

        Five

    • Ark87

      The only division that would have been able to deny the Patriots more than a couple playoff appearances in the past 15 years is the AFC North, I’m actually kinda of sad that there isn’t a 3 way rivalry between the Ravens, Steelers and Patriots now

    • RobNE

      Would def have decreased their odds

    • laeagle

      Poor division play is a hallmark of dynasties. It was a big part of the 49ers run in the 80s/90s. Not their fault. But it does make the winners coming out of the NFC East in its heyday that much more impressive.

    • ChoTime

      Harder division = less playoff appearances/less byes = less Superbowls

  • johhnyblaze

    Bennie Logan visiting Washington, considering one year deals

    • Jernst

      I know a GM in the NFCE that’s all about them one year deals

    • anon

      Sad

    • Tumtum

      Not Wash!

  • Ryan Rambo
    • Tumtum

      He is pretty low key isn’t he.

    • A_T_G

      I am now pretty sure he signed with us to make sure Hicks stops hitting him like that. Wow, was that a pop.

      Also, how in the hell does the coach put that on him, “you can run with it” nonsense? He beat Mills by three steps and had to stop and wait for the jump ball to arrive.