Something Cooking?

Posted: March 4th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 227 Comments »

The Brandin Cooks situation is getting more interesting.

So the Eagles are now the favorite and the asking price could be a 2nd round pick? That’s encouraging, if true. Marvez is a good reporter and isn’t the kind of guy to just throw stuff out there. He’s generally very reliable.

Still, this is hardly a done deal. Teams and agents use reporters to get stories out to the public for a reason. The Saints could leaking this to try and create a market for Cooks. Cooks agent could be doing this to show the Saints there is a market for his client. Or this could be a great scoop that Marvez got from a good source.

The Saints would be willing to deal Brooks for a couple of reasons.

Cooks has been a good player for the Saints, but might not be in the long term plans. They have good young receivers in Michael Thomas and Willie Snead and might feel those guys fit their long term plans better in terms of salary, skill set, size or some other reason. This would be the time to deal Cooks. He’s coming off a good year and still has a season under contract so his value isn’t likely to be higher than this.

If the Eagles are genuinely interested, they have to talk to Cooks before any deal can be done.

You only consider a trade like this if you think you can get the guy to sign a long term deal.Β Why trade for a guy, knowing you would also have to pay him a lot? Just draft or sign someone, right?

The Eagles would love to have DeSean Jackson’s speed. But they don’t want his age. The Eagles could draft a speedster like John Ross. But there is the question of what kind of pro he’ll be. Cooks covers everything. He is not even in his prime, but has shown big time NFL ability. He has explosive speed. He would cost a pick and money, but you would get more of a sure thing than drafting someone. And he could be good for the next 5 to 6 years.

I have no problem with the team trading a pick for a player like this. Cooks would be a key addition to the offense and would provide instant help for Carson Wentz. In a fantasy world, the Eagles would send a 3rd round pick and Mychal Kendricks to the Saints for Cooks. I’m sure we will hear all kinds of trade ideas in the next week. Stay tuned to see if anything does happen.

*****

Burton is a role player on offense and a terrific STer. He can still get better on offense. Burton is only 25 years old and is still learning how to play TE. He was used in a variety of roles in college and mainly played STs under Chip Kelly. Burton could take a big step forward this spring. Or we might find out that he is meant to just be a solid role player and isn’t going to get much better.

Burton strikes me as one of those guys who is both underrated and overrated. I think people who compare him to other TEs and aren’t impressed are missing the fact that he’s got such an odd background and is still learning. At the same time, I think there are some who focus on his highlights and don’t recognize the bad plays he’s also had.

This is a big year for Burton. He needs to show if he can be a #2 TE or if he is purely a #3 TE and STer.

*****

The Eagles won their coin flip today. The team will now pick 14th in the 1st round. This is a big deal.

No guarantees obviously, but you always prefer to have the higher pick.

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227 Comments on “Something Cooking?”

  1. 1 Insomniac said at 12:33 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I also think the Eagles rumors are just to generate interest. Even if we trade for him, there’s still the contract talks and knowing Howie he’ll try to get a deal done asap. That may or may not be good considering the WR market next year.

    As much as I love Cooks speed and RAC ability, I still want a guy who can be a red zone threat and chain mover. At the same time, I’m tired of watching Mills get torched and Jenkins being used as a slot CB. FA is going to provide some answers and once again we’re not in a boring off-season. Decisions decisions.

  2. 2 Mitchell said at 7:45 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Red zone cure could include more fullback, powerful center, big line in general and draft a large WR late like Stringfellow.

  3. 3 Insomniac said at 9:05 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Or you just draft Mike Williams..

  4. 4 Mitchell said at 10:36 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Or bring Plax out of retirement?

  5. 5 Fufina said at 9:13 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Think Wentz getting better will as well. As a young QB its tough throwing in the tighter windows in the redzone, think we had weapons last year that were redzone weapons but Wentz struggled to get the timing right with Ertz/Matthews.

  6. 6 Mac said at 10:19 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    You don’t like Britt or Garcon? Because TBH I would snap Cooks up for a 2nd in a heartbeat and try to get one of the aforementioned free agents. WR problems solved before the draft.

  7. 7 Insomniac said at 10:29 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’s a lot of money to spend on WR. You’re going to be paying Cooks big money soon and Britt isn’t going to be cheap. Garcon will be cheaper. That’s probably going north of 19 million for just two WRs.

  8. 8 Mac said at 11:02 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’s true, but Britt and Cooks would mean the WR issue would become a strength going into the next 3-4 years. If the trade off of extra cap room is enough to push the team toward Garcon, I’d have no problem with that.

    I’d rather burn cap space than feel the need to draft a WR outside of the late rounds this year.

  9. 9 Insomniac said at 12:36 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    In draft news..

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/837867201130545152

    ouch that’s not good.

    https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/837764751937703937

    I wonder how many teams would have removed him if they had the chance to interview him at the combine?

  10. 10 scratcherk said at 1:02 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Living up to your name I see…

  11. 11 Anders said at 3:54 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m not going to defend mixon but those teams are a hypocrite as they come. They are 100% going to interview and look at film of guys who has done worse but there is no conviction (see dalvin cook)

  12. 12 Fufina said at 6:30 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    They are making PR/Business decisions. In their minds its not worth the controversy and bad PR to take a player like Mixon who has what he has done on tape. There is no hypocrisy in that honestly from the teams perspective its just a reality of how psychology works, it is easy for fans to dismiss information they don’t like if they are able to (see Dallas fans with Elliot, and bunch of other domestic abusers) but when you have video evidence there really is no way to be able to deny it consistently.

  13. 13 Anders said at 7:45 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That still makes them hypocrites in my book.

  14. 14 Fufina said at 9:06 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    But its not the teams that are hypocrites, it is us as fans and as people. We are happy to ignore evidence that is upsetting or challenging to our beliefs where it is possible.

  15. 15 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:11 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Agreed. Its the fans and media that make the distinctions. Teams are always going to do whats best for the team.

  16. 16 Forthebirds said at 10:27 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    The team gave Vick a second chance and took a lot of heat for it. He showed he had learned from his mistake. Some people never forgave him, players revered him. I would not have a problem with the team taking Mixon in a late round. If he did something else reprehensible, they could cut him without losing much. I am sure a lot off teams are thinking the same way.

  17. 17 D3FB said at 11:01 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Vick went to jail. Mixon had to redshirt.

    There’s a difference.

  18. 18 Media Mike said at 7:01 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Exactly. Mixon should hardly be the only guy singled out for shunning and abuse.

  19. 19 Insomniac said at 9:25 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Video evidence speaks louder than anything. If Dalvin Cook had a video showing his animal abuse then his stock would drop like a rock too. It’s really not fair that Mixon was singled out and made an example of but life isn’t fair.

  20. 20 Dude said at 9:53 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yeah, it wasn’t fair for the girl half his size that he layed out, either.

  21. 21 Insomniac said at 10:11 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Never said I condone what he did but you have guys with a longer list of dumb stuff that they did that the NFL is trying to crack down on.

  22. 22 Fufina said at 6:32 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Foster news is particularly shocking since he is one of my favourite players in the draft and for me a legit option to have taken at 14. He apparently was a high character guy and leader so i don’t understand how he has gotten in a situation with a nurse at the combine.

  23. 23 Media Mike said at 7:01 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    If you read the extended post by Schefter, it appears that the medical “professional” was moving as slow as molasses and wasting Foster’s time. I wouldn’t worry about it.

  24. 24 Dave said at 7:27 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Not so fast.

    https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/837871789879541760

  25. 25 Media Mike said at 7:39 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Curious. I’d still take him and kick Hicks to WIL.

  26. 26 Dave said at 8:03 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    More from Shefter:

    NFL officials are reviewing the procedures that contributed to Alabama LB Reuben Foster getting into a “heated altercation” with a hospital worker to see if they can make improvements and ensure it doesn’t happen again, per league sources. Another league source said there was a “miscommunication” that allowed the argument between Foster and a hospital worker to escalate. Foster had been waiting for an extended period for what the NFL calls his “pre-exam”, when he grew increasingly impatient and began questioning a hospital worker. The hosptial worker did not take kindly to Fosters words and eventually the two were face to face, in a heated exchange. Other players were there at the time and the NFL is questioning them to get a full account of events. But one league source said the league has to review the procedures and create better communication so that players understand what is happening and why there are delays. Foster is a potential top 10 pick and one executive from team said last night he thought, coming into the combine, that “Foster was a legitimate top 3 pick.”

    If a guy can’t wait in line at the scouting combine without losing his cool, how will he react when he becomes a millionare? Is this the type of diva who will need a babysitter?

  27. 27 Media Mike said at 8:23 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    People who don’t keep appointment times deserve to be dealt with.

    Especially in a league where complete pussies like Tom Coughlin set clocks 5 minutes fast and fine guys for being “late.”

  28. 28 Insomniac said at 9:17 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’s not good. He’ll get grilled by teams in interviews for it now.

  29. 29 Media Mike said at 7:02 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Mixon is trash.

  30. 30 deshawnbentley said at 5:41 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Mike Williams in the first
    Alvin Kamara in the second

    How great would that be

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 7:00 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’d rather have Corey Davis and a starting CB.

  32. 32 Ankerstjernen said at 8:49 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yes!

  33. 33 Media Mike said at 6:59 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m getting a general sense that the people who don’t like Cooks also are deluded into subscribing to the false idea that Maclin was better than Jackson.

    I’d be more than happy to trade our two plus some minor things for Cooks and then sign him to a 5 year / $70 million extension for the 2018-2022 seasons.

    Make $24 million of it a signing bonus and then build some guarantees into the 2018 and 2019 years so his first three years here pay him more than the $29 million he’d make on his current salary ($1.5 or $780k depending on what day his roster bonus conveys) 5th year option (appx $10 mil) and franchise tag (appx $18). We’ll call it $30 million over the next 3 years to be fair.

    So with a $24 million signing bonus you could get him in cap hits and total money earned as follows

    2017 $1.5 mil salary / $5.5 million cap hit / $25.5 million earned
    2018 $ 4.5 mil salary / $8.5 million cap hit / $30.0 million earned
    2019 $ 7 mil salary / $11 mil cap hit / $37 million earned
    2020 $ 11 mil salary / $15 mil cap hit / $48 mil earned
    2021 $12 mil salary / $16 mil cap hit / $60 mil earned
    2022 $12 mil salary / $16 mil cap hit / $72 mil earned

    And if the deal needs to be adding on 5 / $75 we can go 1 mil more / year.
    And if the deal needs to be adding on 5 / $80 we can go 2 mil more / year.
    In both cases I’d just add half to the signing bonus and half to the base salaries. I’m sure some of the future salaries can be split into roster bonuses payable at the start of the league year in 2020-22 if he and he agent want to make sure to provoke the Eagles to either pay him or cut him right away.

    The fact we can dummy in a nice signing bonus to this year while also managing his cap hits as the cap rises will be key.

    I’m 100% into getting Cooks here if it doesn’t cost more than our 2nd plus some parts.

  34. 34 Dave said at 7:20 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’ll take the young proven commodity any day. I hope this works out, as long as we don’t give up our 1st round pick.

  35. 35 Media Mike said at 7:35 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yup!

  36. 36 Fufina said at 7:52 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That signing bonus is too big, as it makes his short term cash flow too high. Getting $37m ($18.5m p/y) in his first 2 years of new contract is far too much and basically makes him uncuttable until 2021 (still $4.8m dead). Also you cant’ spread signing bonus over 6 years, it is 5 years only.

    Problem with any year 3 extension for 1st round picks who are worth the franchise tag is that the 3 year cash flow – $1.5m, $10m (2018 option), $17m tag (these are generous estimates), means if you kept Cooks and just tagged him his cash flow is $28.5m over the next 3 years, and it is year to year so you can move on at any time. It is the reason why a lot of star players make it all the way to tag before getting extended since it is hard to get players to agree with that kind of cash flow through the first 3 years.

    You would probably look at the deal as being something like $30m through years 1-3, and then $15m a year 4-6.

    Maybe something more like $12.5m signing bonus then
    2017: $1.5m Salary / $4m cap / $14m cap flow
    2018: $6m Salary / $8.5m cap / $20m cap flow
    2019: $10m Salary / $12.5m cap / $30m cap flow
    2020: $14m Salary / $16.5m cap / $44m cap flow
    2021: $15m Salary / $17.5m cap / $59m cap flow
    2022: $16m Salary / $16m cap / $75m cap flow

    2017-2019 would be fully guaranteed.

  37. 37 Media Mike said at 8:26 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Thank you for cleaning up the cap rules stuff amiss with my numbers.

    In either case, I want to have Howie leverage the fact Cooks could be stuck with well below market earnings for 2017-19 into a Banner contract that gets Cooks a bunch of money early and on our team with cap friendly cap hits through 2022.

  38. 38 xmbk said at 9:12 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think the truth would probably be somewhere between those 2. But it’s definitely something the team can make happen, as long as the saints don’t overcharge. Considering they are in win now mode, I’m not sure how a 2nd makes them better than Cooks, short term.

  39. 39 Ankerstjernen said at 8:52 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I dont think you will see Howie dealing out any contract with guaranteed money or proration five years into the future. He hasnt so far.

  40. 40 xmbk said at 9:13 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think Maclin is better than Jackson, and I like Cooks. πŸ˜‰

  41. 41 Rellihcs said at 9:19 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yeah, otherwise excellent post by Media Mike, but this part didn’t land.

  42. 42 Media Mike said at 12:55 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Team DeSean; all day every day.

  43. 43 Dude said at 9:32 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Self-tacklin Jeremy Maclin? The guy who had one really good year as an Eagle? Who took 70+ offensive plays/game to reach that level? Nah, give me the explosive game changer every time.

  44. 44 xmbk said at 9:52 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Fair enough. I think he’s overrated by fans because he’s the king of highlight reel plays, but a pauper at all the stuff that is hard to pick up on.

    Kind of ironic to see someone defend Jackson by implying that the other guy gave less than 100%, but to each his own. πŸ˜‰

  45. 45 Media Mike said at 7:36 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Assume we got Cooks for our 2nd + some inconsequential player(s) and/or 2018 conditional picks. So Kupp comes off.

    Round 1 Pick 20 (DEN): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 19 (DEN): Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
    Round 4 Pick 12: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32 (COMP): Julien Davenport, OT, Bucknell (A)
    Round 5 Pick 11: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 10: Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 12: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (B+)

  46. 46 Sb2bowl said at 9:44 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I would kiss you if this happened. Seriously

  47. 47 D3FB said at 10:51 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Cooper Kupp would be the old man of the WR room.

  48. 48 Media Mike said at 12:54 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’ why he’ll be the Saints problem while we have Cooks.

  49. 49 Mac said at 1:14 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Haha… I’ll take it.

  50. 50 xmbk said at 8:20 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    There’s a picture of Fournette and McCaffrey side by side on NFL.com right now, doing combine drills. You can see the attention to detail that makes McCaffery so good in the way they are holding the ball. His floor is solid pro.

  51. 51 Fufina said at 8:23 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Big McCaffrey fan, especially in a west coast system that should utilise his full range of skills. You probably want to pair him with a power back for some situations but i think he would be a great pick in the 2nd round if we don’t trade the pick and he is still there.

  52. 52 Media Mike said at 8:25 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think I’m out on McCaffrey because I’m not taking him at 14, or via rd 1 trade down, and our 2nd will be in NO for Cooks.

  53. 53 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:49 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    You mean you wouldn’t spend the 14th pick on a slower Reggie Bush?

  54. 54 Anders said at 8:51 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    McCaffrey will most likely be a better pro than Bush

  55. 55 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:58 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Likely. The NFL has changed since Bush was drafted. Teams are more likely to take advantage of his skill set in now.

    I think he can be fine offensive weapon. But he is also a luxury I dont want at 14

  56. 56 Dave said at 9:28 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Bush seemed to have one injury after another.

  57. 57 xmbk said at 9:03 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t think he’ll make the second. I’m not advocating for him at 14, either. Just think he’s a very safe pick, and could be an outstanding pro. He’s the kind of guy I like on my team. Wasted potential bugs the crap out of me.

  58. 58 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:05 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    If he lands in the right situation and its going to be fireworks

  59. 59 Insomniac said at 9:19 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    He’s going to need

    1. a good OL since he’s not going to break any tackles behind the line.
    2. a bigger RB or FB for short yardage runs.
    3. limited touches since smaller finesse RBs get banged up way too often
    4. creative uses since he’s not your typical RB.

    I think he’ll be average to good, it’ll just not be on a rebuilding team like the Eagles.

  60. 60 xmbk said at 9:41 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    His vision and burst are outstanding, he needs a good line about as much as any other rb. And they all need a good line.

    Plenty of teams have short yardage specialists. Not sure that’s true with McCaffrey. He has a nose for the paint, and his receiving skills put pressure on the D down there.

    All rb get banged up. Did Sproles get banged up more than Mathews?

    I think some teams are salivating at the chance to get creative with him. Not being typical is going in the plus column for a lot of teams.

  61. 61 Insomniac said at 9:58 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t think he’ll be running away from most NFL LBs and DBs. His vision is great but you also need the burst to get through holes and to get away from people. Dalvin Cook ran slower but he took it to the distance more often.

    Most teams don’t have FBs and I’m sure most teams do have bigger backs. Sproles is huge for his size for one. McCaffery isn’t. Frame is more important.

    I really dislike trying to translate college production to NFL production. It rarely works since the NFL is just on another planet in terms of difficulty.

  62. 62 xmbk said at 10:58 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Fair enough, we’re just shooting air. I think his speed is solid for a pro back, not many lb are keeping up with him. He’s got deceptive burst. Cook may turn out great, but I give McCaffrey about a 3 in 4 chance of having a better pro career.

  63. 63 Fufina said at 9:42 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Not sure i agree. He can break tackles by breaking ankles. His agility is special, i am not sure i am going to back a DT to be able to tackle him in backfield if he manages to overpower a guard. That agility means he can make plays that are losses for 90% of NFL RB’s actually turn into positive plays.

    You are going to use him in a similar way to Shady, you spread out your receivers, limit the number of people in the box and back him to beat a man on a consistent enough basis that it works.

    He took a pounding in college and held up, so i think the limited touches argument is a little unfair, although i doubt you will ask him to run the ball 25 times a game.

  64. 64 Insomniac said at 9:48 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Not even Shady and Barry Sanders could make more than 2 guys miss behind the line of scrimmage consistently and with ease. Dancing behind the line is never good.

    College isn’t the NFL. Charles and McCoy had 50-100 less touches in college but they’re still getting banged up.

  65. 65 Fufina said at 9:09 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    He had a good combine so probably not, although with a RB class so deep, and so much talent in this draft class i think there is a chance he slides 10-20 picks down to our 2nd round pick or a minor trade up.

  66. 66 xmbk said at 9:23 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Hopefully that 2nd will be gone. πŸ˜‰

    Also, 10 BP reinforces the notion that he isn’t big enough to be more than a role player in the pros. Obviously I don’t agree. Imagine he interviews well, too.

  67. 67 Insomniac said at 9:35 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Poor vertical jump isn’t the end all or be all for RBs. So Fournette and Cook still have hope and their stock might not have been affected all that much.

    Shady – 29″ vertical
    Jamaal Charles – 30.5″ vertical
    Leveon Bell – 31.5″ vertical
    Jeremy Hill – 29″ vertical

    On a side note, Amara Darboh just ran 4.46s and he has great hands.

  68. 68 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:39 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think the media is more hung up about a RBs vert than than scouts. I don’t know many teams throwing jump balls up to their backs or fades into the corner of the endzone.

  69. 69 Insomniac said at 9:40 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    But they’re not explosive!!

    Just look at the tape but for teams that like measurables like..the Browns and Seahawks then yea it’ll affect their stock.

  70. 70 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:54 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    The Browns….

    Yeah SEA loves Sparq type athletes but this usually comes into play in the middle and latter rounds. If SEA needed a RB and Cook or Fournette fall to them i would be surprised if they passed.

  71. 71 Mac said at 12:11 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Can’t teach quick twitch muscle… a player’s either got it or he doesn’t.

  72. 72 xmbk said at 9:45 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    What? The guy who invented the hop step doesn’t have any hop? πŸ˜‰

    Agreed, 95% of these numbers mean way more to fans than teams. Still, there’s no game on right now, so…

  73. 73 Insomniac said at 9:40 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Whoa Chris Godwin just ran 4.42s. Too bad he doesn’t run that in pads.

  74. 74 Insomniac said at 9:49 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Zay Jones – 4.46
    Carlos Henderson – 4.46
    Taywan Taylor – TBD

  75. 75 Fufina said at 9:50 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Really nice time for Zay, thought he would be more of a 4.52 type guy. Should help his push up into the early 2nd round with his strong senior bowl performance.

  76. 76 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:56 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I have liked Zay Jones and Isaiah Ford before the senior bowl. I think he’s a top 5 WR to be picked now.

  77. 77 Insomniac said at 10:08 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Ford is running really slow. 4.62 and 4.66, this year’s Jarvis Landry?

  78. 78 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:14 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Him or Cooper Kupp

  79. 79 Insomniac said at 10:20 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I didn’t think Kupp would be fast. I thought Ford would be running in the high 4.4s or low 4.5s from the way he was burning guys.

  80. 80 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:35 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    He’s just not a track guy. It happens.

    I thought Kupp would be 4.55 ish

  81. 81 Insomniac said at 9:59 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    It just doesn’t show up on tape as much as I hate to say it. Love Zay and the times are definitely going to help him.

  82. 82 Sb2bowl said at 10:04 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’s a positive sign for both of them.

  83. 83 Mitchell said at 10:32 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    My man Zay!!! But your right, he just doesnt get much separation.

  84. 84 Dave said at 10:21 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Steve Smith is absolutely killing it on the NFL Network! He is the antithesis of Deion and Michael Irvin’s over-the-top personalities with his deadpan humor and analysis.

  85. 85 Fufina said at 10:27 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t mind prime to be honest, and he actually offers some decent analysis at times. But Steve Smith is fun, although i would be stepping carefully around him.

  86. 86 Dave said at 10:33 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I have no respect for Deion since he is such a piece of shit as a human being.

  87. 87 BobSmith77 said at 11:30 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t know nor have Deion followed him since I retired but he certainly was during/right after his playing career was over. Maybe he has changed as he entered mid-life. I just haven’t seen anything that focused on him since.

    I have always liked and respected Steve Smith a lot. Yeah he had his issues on the field with teammates and coaches. Also is pretty blunt and sometimes maybe a bit too candid off it. I have always appreciated though his relatively earnest feedback on topics. When he thinks a player or the NFL (e.g., Josh Brown incident) did a terrible thing, he doesn’t put out a diplomatic PR answer. Spoke out against Greg Hardy too which pissed off and caused Hardy to respond

    Off the field, Smith ‘walks the walk’ and has been been by all reports a solid family man who is incredibly supportive of his kids and very actively involved in a litany of charities & public-speaking engagements. He beats the ‘Christian drum’ pretty hard but I have never had a real issue with that if he uses that as a strong of inner motivation/principles to guide his life instead of using as a way to condemn others or ask for money (the oldest and ultimate hussle).

  88. 88 Dave said at 12:12 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    If you Google Prime Prep Academy, you’ll see what type of scumbag Deion is as a person.

  89. 89 ChoTime said at 3:13 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    How so?

  90. 90 Dave said at 4:21 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    http://www.espn.com/espn/magazine/archives/news/story?page=magazine-20100322-article26

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2016/02/02/the-spectacular-collapse-of-prime-prep-academy

    http://deadspin.com/the-miseducation-of-deion-sanders-1684905268

  91. 91 SteveH said at 1:18 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Steve Smith is awesome on camera, he has real command with none of the bombast you get with Prime or Irving. Very funny guy too.

  92. 92 GermanEagle said at 10:51 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m generally against drafting a RB in round 1 because I believe you can get quality starters in the later rounds.

    However should Fournette somehow fall to our laps at #14 I am not sure what to do?!

  93. 93 D3FB said at 10:53 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Are you building the offense completely around him?

  94. 94 Insomniac said at 10:56 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Would you consider him if we traded for Cook?

  95. 95 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:57 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    No. Id grab the best defensive player at 14 if Davis isn’t there

  96. 96 D3FB said at 11:08 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    No because I don’t want the offense to look like the Titans. I like the multiplicity of the run game.

  97. 97 xmbk said at 12:43 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I like the titans offense. Given that they weren’t in much better shape than the Eagles at wideout, they did pretty well. Plenty of cash and two firsts, should be a very interesting season for them. Robinson had impressed me so far.

    But no way Fournette fits a Peterson offense.

  98. 98 Mac said at 10:56 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Wait for him to drop to you in round 3?

  99. 99 Insomniac said at 10:53 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Kupp and Godwin look like the most natural hand catchers from that drill. I think Zay went too hard and Ford let some into his body. Dupre doesn’t look bad either.

  100. 100 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 11:01 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I still like Zay a lot. Canon too.

  101. 101 Mac said at 11:09 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Is there any possible way that Andy doesn’t draft Garett Bolles?

    Follow up question: on a scale from 1-10 how happy are you that Andy won’t be drafting Bolles for the Eagles?

  102. 102 D3FB said at 11:11 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    He can’t. Fisher and Schwartz have already been paid.

  103. 103 Mac said at 11:32 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    You know it’s keeping him up at night.

    Maybe we can trade for Schwartz?

  104. 104 Ray888 said at 11:24 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    As PR conscious as the Eagles are, I can’t visualize them giving up the pageantry of any early draft choice this year. It’s too big a platform this year not to take advantage of it.

  105. 105 RC5000 said at 11:35 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    True for the first round pick but they gave the pick up for Wentz and the Vikings pick fell in their lap. No Bridgewater injury, we have no 1st. So you want Cooks , you can’t make your team decisions totally based on hosting the draft.

  106. 106 Ray888 said at 7:47 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Sam, if still here, would be a leading QB trade candidate going into next weekend to get a #1 pick back.

    Not suggesting PR is determative, but rather another item of many to weigh in making very complex decisions.

  107. 107 Fufina said at 11:34 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    #Eagles have given G Allen Barbre permission to seek a trade— Jason Cole (@JasonColeBR) March 4, 2017

    I can understand trying to get younger at OG, and Barbre is not a long term piece, but i always felt the contract is too good to just cut. Think he could be an attractive option for a team looking for a cheap 1 or 2 year rental.

    If they do trade Barbre i would be really surprised if they moved Kelce as well, and if they do they most love one of their undrafted rookies as a future starter at LG.

  108. 108 BobSmith77 said at 11:36 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    You think they are trying to ‘trade high’ on him given that he won’t be here long-term and they are hoping to get a mid-round pick for him?

    He played pretty well last year & has a very reasonable contract. Maybe a conditional 4th rounder/5th rounder for him?

  109. 109 Fufina said at 11:37 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    He is too old and not good enough to get more than a 5th, i would assume even with his cheap contract.

  110. 110 BobSmith77 said at 11:39 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Conditional 4th rounder seems like it would have a very high threshold if they could even get that. Maybe something along the lines of him starting say 14 games next year.

    Can’t remember that many trades (I’ll admit I follow MLB much more closely) though where a guard had that kind of conditional requirement.

  111. 111 Mac said at 11:38 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    This makes sense… There’s no way they’re letting him walk out the door for nothing. We need reliable depth.

  112. 112 CrackSammich said at 12:09 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    You’d be lucky to get a 6th.

  113. 113 D3FB said at 12:13 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    You would be looking for a seventh that conditions to a six best case.

    I just don’t think he has much trade value.

  114. 114 Mac said at 12:14 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Don’t marsh my mellow.

  115. 115 Sb2bowl said at 4:53 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Maybe we could trade him for another under performing WR?

  116. 116 Media Mike said at 12:51 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Bye bye Barbre doll.

  117. 117 anon said at 11:38 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    “You only consider a trade like this if you think you can get the guy to sign a long term deal. Why trade for a guy, knowing you would also have to pay him a lot? Just draft or sign someone, right?” was this an ironic statement?

  118. 118 Mac said at 11:43 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Who are you gonna sign or draft that’s as good as Brandin Cooks?

    I’m sorry, but I want that 1st round pick spent on defense, either at CB or DE. And I consider Cooks to be better than Alshon, Britt, or DeSean. Plus, I love the value of getting NFL proven commodity for a 2nd round pick. I’m not worried about the cap space working because we’ve got Howie.

  119. 119 RC5000 said at 11:46 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    And he helps cap in the meantime vs. signing a Stills.

  120. 120 anon said at 11:47 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I was thinking about Sam Bradford.

  121. 121 Mac said at 12:13 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Haha… ooof… And it keeps happening. What team will fall victim to the Sam Bradford “potential” next?

  122. 122 anon said at 12:54 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Hopefully Dallas or the skins would be interested. Although skins have their own Sam Bradford

  123. 123 Mac said at 1:12 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    At some point the Giants are gonna go looking for a new QB as well…

  124. 124 Fufina said at 11:55 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Think worrying about needs is a bad way to approach the draft, and we have no idea how the roster will be shaping up in 2 weeks time after free agency. There will be good DE’s and CB’s available in rounds 3-4 who are a whole round better this year compared to a more ‘normal draft.

    Cooks/Davis/Matthews/Ertz is a hell of a set of receiving options for a young QB and once Davis adapts to the NFL in a year or 2 it could be easily a top 5 set of weapons, and ones Wentz would have 4-5 years playing together with potentially.

  125. 125 Mac said at 12:08 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m specifically jacked about getting one of the top CBs from this draft class AND getting another one later in the draft. Not just because it’s a team need, but because they’re my top prospects in this draft.

    Not that Davis isn’t a good WR prospect. I’m just psyched out of my mind at the possibility of getting Marlon Humphrey or Sidney Jones… or Solomon Thomas if he drops near 14. I want one of those guys.

  126. 126 Fufina said at 12:17 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t disagree, If they ended up taking 2 CB’s and a DE/LB in our first 3 picks i would be over the moon as well. Just think this draft class is so good you can just draft BPA and get the best players. If you defensive stars fall to you, we build a defensive identity and try and have a top 5 NFL unit. If offensive players are BPA build that up and hope Wentz can carry you.

  127. 127 anon said at 11:38 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m glad eagles are finally rebuilding.

  128. 128 BobSmith77 said at 11:48 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Eagles’ FO and ownership refused to use the ‘rebuilding’ word last offseason and hasn’t so far this year.

    That to me is the most interesting dynamic about this offseason and what transpired. If you look at Pederson and his comments including immediately after the last game, he doesn’t think this team is that far away from being a legit contender nor has he tempered his comments either. In fact, Pederson wasn’t allowed to speak with the media after the final game when he made those comments as normal.

    Lurie too though made some pronounced comments about getting Wentz support and upgrading the talent around him with a more immediate sounding time frame in mind.

    I bet Pederson’s comments riled up Roseman who realized this team is further away from doing anything of merit. Even making the playoffs this year would probably off the record be Roseman’s goal this season let alone winning a game or two.

    Roseman has been the one to temper expectations more this offseason about focusing on a long-term vision and outlook to build around Wentz. It certainly gives Roseman a bit more job security but I tend to agree much more strongly with Roseman’s outlook & current assessment than Pederson.

    I very curious to see if the Eagles do make a move like trade for Cooks which I see being driven more by Lurie than Roseman. I can’t see Roseman being enamored with the prospect of giving up a 1st round pick or even a 2nd pick and a decent defensive player for Cooks.

    If the Eagles don’t make those kind of moves and primarily relegate themselves to more mid-tier/lower-tier FAs while focusing on building though the draft, it gives me an indication that Roseman really is the commanding voice and has final say.

    If the Eagles made a move for Cooks giving up a lot, draft a RB in the first round, or sign a splashy FA/resign Jackson, then to me that is the indication that Lurie is pressing a bit more on Roseman to contend next year with a clear expectation this team will make the playoffs at a bare minimum if not win at least a game.

  129. 129 RC5000 said at 1:08 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Cooks is younger than Wentz. They want Wentz to develop and hasn’t Howie made comments about veteran receivers being more apt to help Wentz vs. rookie receivers?

  130. 130 BobSmith77 said at 11:52 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t think Pederson’s standing in the organization is as steady as many on here assume. He is very candid and at times probably way too candid on issues. I can’t see that being something that Roseman endorses or wants to do with.

    If the Eagles take a step back this year and Wentz struggles to develop more, at a bare minimum I see Pederson’s offense play-calling responsibilities being pulled from him and 4-12/5-11 season getting him fired outright.

  131. 131 Fufina said at 11:56 AM on March 4th, 2017:

    Sure but this isn’t a 4-12 roster, so he should be fired if we have that kind of season. As long as Wentz shows progress he has no real concerns in 2017, he should be safe as houses.

  132. 132 Dave said at 12:15 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I don’t get the Peterson hate. He’s not the best public speaker, but he is a football coach, not a politician.

  133. 133 Gary Barnes said at 12:35 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Why would the Saints want to move on from a young talented WR who has been productive? Sean Payton is no fool, makes me wonder what possible downsides Cooks might bring. Has there been any comment from Drew Brees? I wonder what his thoughts would be on losing a good weapon. Interesting scenario.

  134. 134 Media Mike said at 12:50 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Don’t over think it. They’ve managed their poorly and don’t want to pay the guy so they’ve talked themselves into keeping inferior talent over Cooks.

  135. 135 Dave said at 12:56 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    This is the same team that choose Jairus Byrd over Malcolm Jenkins. Grass is greener front office philosophy.

  136. 136 anon said at 1:00 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    No $$. Michael Thomas is better than Brandon Cooks, that’s just the reality. Cooks is going to want a big deal and to be the focus of the offense

  137. 137 Media Mike said at 1:01 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    F that. F-ing Ohio State trash. Bunch of buckeye b-atches.

  138. 138 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:51 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Don’t hold back Mike. Tell us how you really feel. We’re here for you, bud.

  139. 139 CrackSammich said at 2:14 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I thought they were in cap hell, but they’ve cleared out $27mil in space this year with Brees dropping to a manageable cap number next year. Seems to me Cooks is expecting Antonio Brown money and they don’t think he’s worth it.

    http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/

  140. 140 RC5000 said at 1:02 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I read they don’t like his complaining about not getting enough touches. But this could be agent driven . Seems like there’s a lot of chatter though from various sources.

  141. 141 anon said at 1:09 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Me neither but he’s a receiver so not surprised. Plus he’d probably get the ball a lot here.

  142. 142 Fufina said at 12:37 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Damn 4.22 is insane for Ross. I thought he would put up 4.33 or something but that is deadly speed, there are 0 CB’s in the NFL that can hang with that speed. Think he pushes back safeties 10 yards just walking onto the field.

  143. 143 GermanEagle said at 12:41 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He’s a top 15 lock now.

  144. 144 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:42 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Top 14?

  145. 145 GermanEagle said at 12:45 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Ha! Maybe top 10 actually…?!

  146. 146 RC5000 said at 12:57 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    It might be 50/50…he has a medical red flag.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/uws-john-ross-iii-to-miss-2015-season-with-knee-injury/

  147. 147 SteveH said at 1:23 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Medical red flag or no someone’s going to jump on that early, unless something bad happens between now and the draft.

    Consider this, he’s faster than Desean Jackson while being slightly bigger than Desean Jackson. Crazy.

  148. 148 RC5000 said at 1:40 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    That would be fine with me if he went and Corey Davis dropped to us.. Torn ACL in one knee and two torn meniscus in other. Yikes.

  149. 149 Sb2bowl said at 7:25 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I’m a fan of Davis; if he played at a bigger school he would be WR #1 in the draft.

  150. 150 SteveH said at 7:47 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yeah it’s definitely a medical concern. I’d be doing a ton of homework on him if I was the Eagles… Could be poor luck or a harbinger of things to come. Either way, he ran a 4.22 after a torn ACL and two torn meniscus, so something must still be working structurally.

  151. 151 RC5000 said at 1:54 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Beckham went 13th and besides speed, Ross doesn’t have near the technical skills Beckham had or quite the catching ability.

  152. 152 Anders said at 3:30 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He also make Ryan mathews and vick look healthy

  153. 153 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 1:37 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Doesnt Tenn have a few big bodied WRs already? I can see them grabbing Ross if they dont get Cooks

  154. 154 Mac said at 2:14 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    In fact, they may have just pulled out of the Cooks lottery entirely. Which makes me happy.

  155. 155 Fufina said at 12:45 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Broadly speaking i hate pushing people up the board off combine results, and honestly Ross toasted everyone all year, but that is speed is so dominant, which combined with the fact he runs legit NFL routes means i have to agree.

  156. 156 Dave said at 1:27 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Could you imagine Ross and Cook on the outside!

  157. 157 GermanEagle said at 2:25 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Or Ross, DeDean and Cooks all on the field at the same time…

  158. 158 Mitchell said at 1:15 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    What was the record because wasnt the person who broke it getting a prize or something?

  159. 159 Dave said at 1:26 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    An island from Adidas only if he wore Adidas shoes…He wore Nike.

  160. 160 teltschikfakeout88 said at 7:46 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He wore Nike and they signed to a deal shortly after breaking the record…

  161. 161 D3FB said at 3:22 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    An island or 1 million dollars cash, if you were wearing Adidas, broke the record and sign whatever endorsment deal they offer you (to which they were certainly going to deduct the island or 1 million)

    It was like when QuickenLoans offered 1 billion dollars for a perfect bracket, get a shit ton of free PR and never really have to pay it out.

  162. 162 RobNE said at 10:21 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I hate that hypothetical assuming the island is worth about a million only a wealthy person would or could take the island. Most of us like 99 percent take the cash. If the island is worth 10 million you should mention that in the offer.

  163. 163 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:54 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Al Davis Sr’s corpse just got an erection.

  164. 164 Sb2bowl said at 4:49 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Old bones?

  165. 165 Media Mike said at 8:32 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/838084262217777153

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 1:00 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I didn’t realize there was a roster spot dedicated to “toast” for the Eagles. They just resigned POS Jaylin Watkins to a one year deal.

    If even a penny of that is guaranteed, somebody needs to be kicked in the nuts.

  167. 167 Fufina said at 1:02 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He is a decent 3rd Safety and special teamer. We have no one on the roster to be a no.3 S, and as long as we have better nickle CB depth this year he should only be getting on the field if one of our starting safeties gets injured. You do need depth.

  168. 168 Media Mike said at 1:03 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He’s a decent special teamer, but completely clueless at safety. Did you see how often he got toasted down the stretch? Especially by all of inferior talent? He needs to be gone.

  169. 169 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 1:16 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Hes less garbage as a slot. Complete garbage as a S

  170. 170 D3FB said at 3:20 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He was an ERFA, it’s just a formality. No need to get rid of a placeholder 3rd safety for no reason.

  171. 171 Media Mike said at 5:09 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    As long as you can promise I’m not going to be stuck watching him play DB again and there isn’t a dead money issue……

  172. 172 SteveH said at 1:00 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/837999035424329730

  173. 173 Dave said at 1:24 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Do Not Want!

  174. 174 SteveH said at 1:27 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I couldn’t get the whole series of tweets to embed for some reason but my favorite part is when he threatened to get physical with the guy he said go ahead and do it. What a combine story that would have been!

    As it stands that’s actually a terroristic threat – though I doubt the guy presses charges. Foster would have been better off skipping the combine.

  175. 175 CrackSammich said at 1:59 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    “terroristic”? How so?

  176. 176 ChoTime said at 3:10 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think it’s called “assault,” part of the “assault and battery”?

  177. 177 SteveH said at 3:44 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    terroristic threats don’t have to do with terrorism, it’s simply threatening violence or harm on another person, among other things. Telling someone you’re going to hurt them is a terroristic threat.

    more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroristic_threat

  178. 178 BlindChow said at 4:45 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Sounds like this situation lacked the required “terrorization as the result of the proscribed conduct,” per your link.

  179. 179 Sb2bowl said at 4:48 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yes, agreed. It’s an M1 misdemeanor based on potential bodily harm.

  180. 180 Mitchell said at 1:35 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Ross goes top half now and foster falls to the bottom of it. No change for the Igs.

  181. 181 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 1:36 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I think the thing with Ross was the medical checks. If that cleared he was already a top 3 WR. This is just icing

  182. 182 Nick C said at 1:53 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Foster is probably my favorite player in this draft. Wouldn’t mind us taking him at all.

  183. 183 GermanEagle said at 2:24 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Dear Lord I hope he isn’t still your favourite player after showing what a d*** he really is…

  184. 184 Dude said at 4:32 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Plenty of Eagles fans are pulling for Mixon, so…

  185. 185 Patrick said at 4:54 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Unless you see Foster as the guaranteed second coming of Luke Kuechly, I cannot fathom how anyone thinks its a good idea to move around Hicks like its some sort of sure thing he’ll just perform as well as a WLB.

    We have one of the best young MLBs in the NFL, i’d really prefer not to spend a top 15 pick on one, especially with the position being less premier than it used too. If we hit a great MLB in the later rounds then fucking awesome, but spending a first rounder is just bad business.

  186. 186 Sb2bowl said at 4:56 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Doesn’t seem like he has the intelligence to play MLB in our scheme, and if we want to get Hicks to WIL, we need a MLB.

  187. 187 daveH said at 5:27 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I can never get philly.com to load on my phone … wierd

  188. 188 Rellihcs said at 6:49 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Tons of adds and cookies. Your phone might need a tune up.

    You’re not missing much – especially in the sports section.

  189. 189 Media Mike said at 5:35 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Good news for the Flyers; Konecny is back!
    Bad news for the Flyers; they benched Lyubimov instead of trashy thief loser Matt Read.

  190. 190 CrackSammich said at 6:15 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    I like Luby, but he’s all grit. “High motor”. I used to like Bellemare for the same reason, but then he just never got any better.

  191. 191 Media Mike said at 6:33 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Read is straight up trash who I wanted to be traded for thievery before the start of the season. His continued existence on this roster is enraging.

  192. 192 Insomniac said at 7:02 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/NFLDraftInsider/status/838081198345838592

    I wonder if it was more medical related or if they’re in love with him.

  193. 193 Fufina said at 7:05 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I imagine he is one of the 7-8 guys they will consider at 14, and probably the one with the most medical concerns so i am sure they are looking to check him out extensively from a medical perspective. Add in the fact that the front office seems to be feeling the need for some speed… (Cooks and DeSean links all offseason) seems likely that there is a fair bit of fire to go with that smoke.

  194. 194 SteveH said at 7:49 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Well here’s something we can all hope doesn’t come true.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000789797/article/could-tony-romo-be-involved-in-potential-cousins-deal

    Romo to Washington, Cousins to San Fran, and the #2 overall to Dallas? How that trade would make any sense for anyone but Dallas I don’t know, but Washington and San Fran aren’t known for the shrewdness of their FO currently.

  195. 195 Fufina said at 8:02 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Washington beat reporter said today he talked to 3 people in their front office and they all just laughed and said the report was utter rubbish and they have no interest at all in Romo.

    Washington is getting no where near enough in that deal i mean maybe if it was something like Romo and the 2nd pick, Cousins to San Fran and a 3rd round pick from Washington for Romo that would make sense value wise.

    There is no universe where there is a team willing to trade the 2nd pick for Romo (which is effectively what washington would be doing).

  196. 196 PacificPurl said at 4:27 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Baalke is gone remember?

  197. 197 SteveH said at 7:56 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Did Mike Williams not run because he was expected to run in the 4.6’s? I see he did his vertical and broad jump.

  198. 198 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 8:01 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    If someone trades a mid-first for Cooks, I’ll eat my shoe.

    https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/status/838187078911463424

  199. 199 Media Mike said at 8:13 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    We’re already outbid with the 32, so I guess we’re back to the drawing board.

  200. 200 Fufina said at 9:38 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    The offer was apparently 32 for a Cooks and a later pick (probably their 2nd or 3rd) apparently according to @rapsheet, making it not a real legit 1st round pick offer.

    I still think a good 2nd round pick will be about as high as people are willing to go considering you are going to need to hand over a large contract extension pretty soon or let him walk.

  201. 201 RobNE said at 10:18 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    That’s like saying you traded Noel for a first.

  202. 202 RC5000 said at 11:18 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Yeah that didn’t sound like Patriots…giving up first and then paying him (wr) big money?

  203. 203 CrackSammich said at 6:12 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Pats are terrible at drafting WR. might as well trade that first.

  204. 204 A_T_G said at 8:25 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    32 is better than 46 and Kendrick’s, I guess?

  205. 205 Media Mike said at 8:28 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Ya think?

  206. 206 Ryan Rambo said at 11:33 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Meh….what kind of shoe we talkin?

  207. 207 Media Mike said at 8:19 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    The “we’re no longer getting Cooks” mock

    Round 1 Pick 14: Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (A)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (B)
    Round 3 Pick 12 (N.O.): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
    Round 4 Pick 11 (N.O.): Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 12: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 4 Pick 32 (COMP): Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (A)
    Round 5 Pick 11: Marquez White, CB, Florida State (C)
    Round 6 Pick 10: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 12: George Kittle, TE, Iowa (D+)

  208. 208 Dave said at 9:30 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I like Davis and Williams. Ross’s injuries really scare me.

  209. 209 Ryan Rambo said at 8:51 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Haha! “Something Cooking?” I get it! #imslow

  210. 210 Media Mike said at 9:44 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Not sure if anybody here is that much of a boxing fan but Thurmon / Garcia is staring soon.

  211. 211 Insomniac said at 10:13 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/838164035791114240

    https://twitter.com/zjwhitman/status/838163809244061696

    The tweets are referring to this.

    https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/rb/

  212. 212 kajomo said at 10:20 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He didn’t do the Bench Press. I wonder if that is effecting his score some?

  213. 213 Insomniac said at 10:26 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    He did 22 reps on the bench if I remember correctly.

    edit: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dalvin-cook?id=2557991

    Yup. He didn’t test very well now that all of the numbers are out.

  214. 214 RC5000 said at 11:15 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Kamara didn’t do 3 cone drill & short shuttle. How does that affect his top score I wonder?

  215. 215 Insomniac said at 12:48 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    I believe they calculate it without missing drills and then recalculate the score after they get the times. So I do think it affected his score.

  216. 216 A_T_G said at 10:43 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    There are disturbing reports that TrashCan may be skipping his off season workouts in favor of partying.
    https://twitter.com/nuclearcarly/status/838207222643634179

  217. 217 Ryan Rambo said at 11:36 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    Watch the Patriots land him.

  218. 218 Ryan Rambo said at 11:39 PM on March 4th, 2017:

    I hope the Patriots don’t end up with McCaffery.

  219. 219 Ryan Rambo said at 12:48 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    On Pryor’s side, there are some indications he could be interested in signing with Philadelphia. Pryor went out of his way to praise Carson Wentz after the rookie quarterback had a strong NFL debut against the Browns in Week 1 last season.

    “He’s awesome,” Pryor said when asked about Wentz, via Cleveland.com. “I’ll tell you guys right now, I was just talking with him and a couple people, that kid’s going to be a baller. (The Eagles) got one. I just liked his patience, he was great, he did an awesome job. He looked like he’d been there before.”

    In addition, Pryor also recently retweeted a tweet about a Carson Wentz quote Howie Roseman had from an interview The MMQB:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/399ee1c439cdd8b2ac0ce1e265d8a97f15e597dbb51bb2a95d6d6ab645b85e78.png

  220. 220 Insomniac said at 12:50 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    But do we want him? It’ll be good for us if we could get him for 7-9 million a year but the character concerns are real.

  221. 221 Ryan Rambo said at 12:58 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Every team in our division has a legit WR1 w/ character concerns except us. I’ll take him.

  222. 222 Media Mike said at 6:30 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    Then we still wouldn’t have a #1 WR; we’d have a flash in the pan guy who accumulated most of his yard in garbage time scenarios.

  223. 223 Ryan Rambo said at 7:33 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    So add another one. He’s not trash though.

  224. 224 xmbk said at 7:23 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    I don’t want to be like every other team in the division. F’em, Eagles fly above.

  225. 225 Ryan Rambo said at 7:31 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    My point is, we need to be able to handle more than choir boys. Especially at that position. I don’t mind a little “diva” in my WR. Most good ones have that. As long as he’s not a criminal, let him live.

  226. 226 xmbk said at 8:47 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    It’s funny how things like this filter down to all levels. I was talking to other hs coaches about how receivers are barely football players any more. They’re basketball players looking for something to do in the off-season, or whatever. I refuse to buy in, which is obviously easier at the hs level. A football team is better off with football players. You can make exceptions but do it player by player, not by position. And each exception you make is like pulling a block out in Jenga.

  227. 227 Media Mike said at 6:30 AM on March 5th, 2017:

    I don’t. He’s trash.