Who’s Playing Who?
Posted: March 7th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 349 Comments »The Eagles are interested in Alshon Jeffrey. And Kenny Stills. And Brandin Cooks. And Terrelle Pryor. And Kenny Britt. It feels like the Eagles are being used by every agent in the business to pump up their clients. That certainly is a possibility.
It is also possible that the Eagles are leaking some of these reports to help their bargaining position. Let’s say the Eagles really covet Kenny Stills because of his age and speed. If Stills and his agent know that, they bargain from a position of strength. The Eagles could counter that by leaking that they are interested in another free agent or are trying to trade for Cooks.
Maybe the Eagles do covet Cooks and keep leaking names of free agent targets to make the Saints think they are willing to go another direction. Leverage means everything when negotiating at this time of the year. This is all a big game of chicken. Who blinks first?
You don’t want to be the team that didn’t land a key free agent. You don’t want to be the agent who failed to get a big deal for his client. You don’t want to be the team that is stuck with a player because you asked for too much in a trade. Any advantage you have in these negotiations can help, maybe a lot.
I have no idea if the Eagles are leaking rumors or if this is all agents and other teams. At the very least, the Eagles are benefiting from being associated with just about every available WR on the planet. Time will tell if any of this helps the team to really get the guy they want.
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Starting at noon on Tuesday, teams can legally “tamper” with free agents. They will have until 4pm on Thursday to negotiate as much as they want. No deals can be signed, but just about anything else goes. PFT has a good write-up on the situation.
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Eagles expected to show interest in wide receiver Kenny Britt. https://t.co/91mZoE5eEW
— Tim McManus (@Tim_McManus) March 6, 2017
McManus usually has good sources so this feels legit. At first, I wasn’t so keen on Britt. The more I read about him and watched his tape, the more he grew on me. He has matured quite a bit, on and off the field. He just had a terrific season, despite poor QB play. I think Britt would be a good addition and he would have a reasonable price tag.
If you could get Britt and Terrelle Pryor or Britt and Kenny Stills, that would really upgrade the receiving corps and the passing game.
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There is another.
Keep an eye on Torrey Smith to the Eagles after his reported release https://t.co/MoeCDxcVli
— Brandon Lee Gowton (@BrandonGowton) March 6, 2017
Eagles' front office knows Torrey Smith well. Andy Weidl was the Ravens' area scout who scouted Smith. Joe Douglas is well connected in area
— Zach Berman (@ZBerm) March 6, 2017
Smith will be on the market. The Eagles tried to trade for him at midseason, but couldn’t work things out. That was probably a good thing. Smith had a bad contract. The Eagles can now make a run at him with no compensation involved and get him for a cheaper cost.
If you focus on stats, Smith is a player in serious decline. He really struggled in SF. I think you have to be careful with that, though. Their QB play was a mess the last 2 years. No receiver is going to flourish when QBs are struggling. There is no guarantee that Smith will recapture the form he had in Baltimore, where he played well and showed the ability to be a good downfield threat. But if you don’t have to trade for him and the cost is right, it might be worth taking a chance on Smith. He has a good size/speed combination and has played at a high level in the past.
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Tommy, I think you’ve got a typo in the article title. Here’s the fix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOjjxXwjglM&index=4&list=PL3TcvfnVkIrAJrR-j3tIKuk0d8UZpiMun
if anyone noticed this poor joke, and feels I should be made to suffer for it, worry not. This goddamned song has been caught in my head all day. Kids, be careful out there when referencing late 80s/early 90s pop songs to make a cheap joke.
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Pryor and Britt would be nice!!
Britt and stills would be…. meh
Dude, you’re just not thinking things all the way through. Sign Kenny Britt and Kenny Stills, draft Kenny Golladay and sign Kendall Sanders as a UDFA (on the condition he agrees to go by Kenny).
This is totally the best way to build a receiving corps.
i dont want kenny stills. not a fan.
You got the joke, though, right?
totally missed the whole kenny theme there …. lol
No one cares what you want, you retarded DICK.
kenny stills sucks, glad we didnt sign him.
its because he sucks.
“WE”? You don’t work for the Eagles, you Fucking RETARD.
yes i do
oh and kenny stills still sucks
At this point I think I’m hoping they go for 2 WR’s in FA and then draft something like CB/RB/CB.
Torrey Smith – No Thank you. I really want Brandon Cooks, but I only want to give up a 2nd, 4th & Kendricks via trade. . So if Tenn wants to give them #18 then I guess we lose out on him. Pryor is the guy I am hoping we take a risk on in the 8-10 mil range. Pass on Stills. Britt would be plan C after Cooks & Pryor.
Cooks and Pryor as our two starting WRs and I’d be pushing some serious cloth. We’d go from the hands down worst WRs in the league to easily one of the best overall corps in one offseason.
Lol. Just saw your post after making my WR wish list. Two great minds and all that..
At least if Tennessee gets Cooks might mean a WR drops to us. I prefer Cooks for sure but at least there would be some sort of silver lining.
“US”? Who the fuck are you? You are a nobody that lives in your mom’s basement. LOSER!
Smith seems like the type of buy low/sell high production we typically look for in these scenarios. I’m not a huge fan, but after 2 years in San Fran hell, I’m sure he’s looking for a little redemption and a shot at winning again like he had with Baltimore.
It helps having Douglas on the staff (helped to draft Smith with Baltimore) and Groh as our WR coach- he’s had success with these types of veterans. That in part, is why I like Britt as well- not that either of them will solve the position long term, but they have a helluva better shot than Chris “freaking” Givens did last year.
Well, they got Smith, you should kill yourself than.
I want to wake up someday this week and find out that we traded Matthews plus a 4th for Jarvis Landry.
There are some fantastically bad ideas from Dolphins fans about what Landry is worth.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2017/3/6/14829440/miami-dolphinstrade-free-agency-rumors-jarvis-landry-kenny-stills
My personal favorite is our 1st, Brandon Graham, and Kendricks for a slot receiver who scored 4 touchdowns each of the past 2 years. The idea of 2 firsts (from some hypothetical team not named that has two picks and wants to use them both on a slot receiver) is pretty good, too.
I mean, I know Eagles fans can be unrealistic sometimes, but there is some serious delusion going on with those Phins fans. Maybe they’re just not familiar with the NFL.
Dolphins fans think Tannehill is good. End of story.
I live in Ft Lauderdale (used to live in Miami for 3 years prior), not many people think Tannehill is good, but they do think that Landry is.
I thought they were believing in him again with Gase at the helm. Thanks for clarifying though!
I rather trade for a under the radar defensive player. We can get a useful slot WR later in the draft or in as a UDFA (we also already have one in Paul Turner)
Maybe a DE or LB but that’s it. Useful < already a stud. Matthews is "useful" but he certainly isn't good.
The problem is trading for Landry over Matthews really do not move the needle.
An under the radar trade is similar to Demeco or Sproles
It does. You would have a reliable WR that moves the chain and can catch anything you throw at him. Oh and you now have a WR that can excel with those multiple WR screens that Doug likes to call.
Matthews is mediocre at best, I would ship package him immediately for a significantly better player and that’s not hard considering how Matthews can only do half his damn job.
The problem with Landry is, are you willing to pay up next season?
Im not sure its makes financial sense to pay a slot WR big money no matter who he is.
But he plays outside a bit too? I don’t see why you wouldn’t. Landry is going to be productive and guys like Hopkins/Robinson will set the market. If he produces like a #1 then you pay him, he’s not as good as those guys but he’s in the same tier as a Maclin with the right offense.
Would he cost more than Matthews? For sure but you’re also getting 5 times the player Matthews is.
Not sure Landry is a guy you want to match up too much outside.
I love Landry, but I rather keep Matthews (I dislike) and my 4th then having to pay Landry 12 mill next year
He might not get a lot of separation all of the time outside but he wins with route-running and by winning contested catches.
I would for that price and lets be honest here Matthews isn’t worth anything. Landry is a sure thing and it’s not like we don’t have the cap space next year when some guys are definitely going to be cut. There’s no way that the top 3 FA WRs are going to be available next year for a reasonable price.
Maybe I undervalue Landry.
I for the love of God do not hope we won’t have to pay a FA wr next year unless we keep Matthews at a reasonable deal
Wouldn’t that be the same problem with Matthews? Then this argument would be you don’t think the Eagles should have either and where does that leave us.
landry has a crazy high catch rate, is as tough as huff and does returns. i really like him, but he’s going to get a big money deal for sure.
Still not sure why people are talking about trading the only receiver on the team worth putting on the field. And then to trade him and a pick for a receiver with a few hundred yards more but 6 TDs LESS than Matthews. Where’s the logic in that? Hell, just use that 4th rounder to pick a receiver!
And if you’re going to say, “but he’s a returner” – well he had less than 200 yards returning punts and no kickoffs last year (with no TDs). I just don’t get the cost for pretty much no improvement.
I think that using raw stat comparisons is worthless. And I also think that the idea is a) you don’t want to necessarily give JMat big money in the next two years and b) Jmat is relatively easily replaceable – whereas Cooks is a much rarer breed.
But I wasn’t comparing him to Cooks – that isn’t a comparison. I was talking about trading Matthews PLUS a pick for Landry – arguably a lateral move in terms of talent (as I tried to point out) at a high price for the Eagles. And I don’t think he gets big money for his talent – they could just let him walk at that point.
Oh ok. I personally have decided that I think Landry trade for any team is 0% a possibility. And I generally agree, though I do think that Landry>JMat…
“Landry>JMat” Why? Their performance really doesn’t show it.
I guess it’s subjective. I feel as though their performance does. Landry seems to me to be more athletic, more consistent with catches, and faster. I’m no JMat hater though…
How are you figuring this? The last two years Landry has over 1157 and 1136 yards, Jordan Matthews was 997 and 804. Not sure how this is even remotely close. On top of it Landry can handle punt returns/kick returns if needed. Matthews can’t play special teams. Careerwise Landry has 3051 yards vs 2673 yards for Matthews. 492 yards in two years is not a few yards.
He hasn’t done a return for three years. 492 in three years isn’t much – in on year, yes it’s a lot. Fewer TDs is a huge difference.
Yes but Landry is way better than Matthews just for the simple fact he can catch.
Not if you look at the stats. He has a few hundred more yards and less touchdowns over the same three years. Why would you send Matthews plus a pick to get pretty much the same performance?
Pretty much no improvement? Is that before or after you just googled their stats?
So what’s your point smart ass? That’s what it’s all about, right? Performance on the field. I guess you’d rather some some esoteric “high motor” guy. It’s just plain stupid to send a receiver and a pick for a guy who’s not better. If you don’t get that, I can’t help you. Please, point out what’s better.
You’re basing this on what again? TDs? So TDs are the only way to judge a WR. Guess Dez is better than Julio then. Maybe Matthews is only 20% less of a WR when compared to Deandre Hopkins. Lets forget that Landry is the more complete WR that has arguably the 2nd best pair of hands in the league.
Because he is not very good? You can have the option of getting punched in the face or kicked in the nuts; getting punched in the face might seem like the better option but doesn’t mean its a good one.
So you obviously didn’t read my post, just decided to spout off.
Obviously you didn’t read mine, maybe its just an ability to comprehend, let me know which part didn’t make sense to you. Your argument has no basis on fact, but tell me how to get to this imaginary world where almost 500 yards in 2 years difference isn’t a big difference. On top of it if you watch the Dolphins you would know that there is a big difference between the two players. But instead you make generalizations on two players it seems you don’t know about. So, clearly you just want to “spout off”
In what imaginary world do less TDs make a better WR? “Almost 500 yards” in three tears doesn’t mean a damn thing. In one year, yes. Over three years, no. Keep trying to sound like you understand, you clearly don’t.
“WE” You don’t work for the Eagles, you FUCKING RETARD. Get a job.
The only thing that makes me think it’s not entirely agents is that we only hear about the Eagles being connected to WRs and not CBs. CB is just as obvious a need. I’d think if agents wanted to use the Eagles to pump up clients they’d do so for their CB clients too.
There are reasons for that….
All this WR talk makes me think something else is happening…
Eagles sign Bouye and Zeitler day 1 🙂
GE’s Quick WR thoughts before the craziness begins at noon:
– #I’m4DeSean but not for more than $10m/year. Sorry.
– Trade for Cooks or die trying. He’s easily the best WR option out there and arguably the best fit of all of them. However do not part ways with the #14 OVR.
– Kenny Britt would OK, but Kenny Stills sucks.
– Pryor’s character issues do not concern me at all. I’d be happy if the Eagles sign him to a front loaded but also ‘prove it’ deal. Despite his age he’s got some serious potential.
– While I was a huge Alshon supporter at the trade deadline last year, his soft tissue issues scare me. I pass if his price tag is in the $14-15m / year range.
– From all the ‘second tier’ options I’d seriously consider Torrey Smith, but only if the price is right.
GE’s WR wish list, considering all costs and age:
1. Cooks
2. Pryor
3. Britt
4. DeSean
5. Alshon
#GetYaPopcornReady
Would be insane if we could get Pryor at a good deal and trade Cooks for less than our 1st round pick
As some other poster has already mentioned: that exact scenario would turn one of the worst WR corps into one of the best in an instant…! #wetdream
I think that’s going too far. It would be a dramatic improvement. And it would be my best case scenario. Heck, add in Britt while we’re fantasizing.
…or John Ross…
Im scare as hell to draft Ross due to his injury history.
If it came down to drafting Ross in the first or giving up our first for Cooks, I’d take Cooks in a heart beat.
Enh, for me Davis>Williams>Ross
Yes agreed. However the thought of having such two speedsters on the outside is intriguing as hell..!
Sometimes I wonder whether you are more into speedsters or football…
Lol. What makes you wonder?
Besides the Eagles are heavily interested in adding speedsters this offseason, in case you missed it..
Uh, yeah, they are relatively interesting in adding “a” speedster…
I just think that Desean Jackson is much worse of a football player than you’ve been making him out to be and it’s grinded my gears a bit.
Fair enough. I respect everyone’s opinion. Some people like DeSean, some not. I guess you belong to the latter.
Yeah, I’m somewhat busting your balls. I only like him for cheap at this stage. There are plenty of younger speedsters who are at least motivated enough to pretend to be team football players for a bit. He’s not the hottest girl in the room anymore, and the room is much less barren than when he was first a hot topic on the scene this year. But you’ve still got eyes for that one. Lust away.
Blame it on Chippah who broke my heart out of nowhere. 😉
Fair enough. but it aint 2015 no more…
Good speed, good hands, good route runner. Motivated to do it on every play? No. Ultimate team player? No. Desean is simply not a winner in my book.
Same. I like Davis the most out of the potential first round WR’s
I can’t figure out who I want least(if at all) – Stills or Smith. If those were the only 2 available .. I’d rather draft or wait til next year….
If you take the projected money and costs into account, Stills should be the least option of all…!
I wouldn’t want Jackson for more than $8 mill/year – not even sure if I’d want them to go that high.
If you can get DeSean for 3 years with a total of $27m that would be a great deal in today’s salary cap times.
I’m just not sure he has 3 years in the tank – but then again if they could get rid of him after two years with no dead money, that would be alright.
Maybe I am biased, but DeSean doesn’t strike me as a guy whose production would fall down the cliff when he hits the age of 32. However I do agree with you, if the Eagles can structure the contract similar to what you have proposed, I would pull the trigger.
However I get more and more the feeling that DeSean is Tampa bound..
You’re biased.
And your lack of faith is disturbing.
I’m an atheist.
Takes faith to be an atheist. 🙂
Ha yeah, yes and no. I am however devout…
That would probably be the formatting of the deal; first year guaranteed, half of second- cut for the third. He seems like a fall back option, the front office is putting it out that they really want to get younger.
Any one of those guys immediately improves our O.
I think I pretty much agree with almost all if not all of what you said.
Thank you, sir.
T-Law says the agents and teams are playing games with each other. The same as T-Law is playing games with us. Stop it T-Law! You said you learned some info that you couldn’t share. Now you saying 2 possible WR FA’s? Would be in my glory with 1(not including Stills) but 2? You’re just a big ol tease aren’t you!
Howie Roseman beats the media like a drum.
Howie Roseman: Carson Wentz “fits our city”
Eagles GM discusses the trade on The MMQB podcast
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/3/6/14832156/howie-roseman-carson-wentz-sports-illustrated-mmqb-podcast-albert-breer
Did you listen to the podcast? Good stuff, had it on at work yesterday.
Yes I did! I agree, it was a good listen for sure.
listened to it yesterday, was great.
forgot they didnt have a second last year. Really amazing what howie did to move up for wentz.
Apropos of nothing but the title of this post, Death Trap was on TV on Sunday night. Hadn’t seen it since I was pre-teen shocked by the first big twist in it. Really enjoyed watching it again.
is that the one with Christopher Reeve and Michael Caine? Or the one with Travolta and Lithgow? Oh wait, that last was “Blow Out”.
Reeve and Caine. Kinda sad watching it now, knowing what happened to Reeve. Gonna have to find “Blow Out” somewhere. Similar circumstances – haven’t seen it in forever, but remember loving it when I was younger. “Absence of Malice” was another one that I rediscovered a few years ago.
To summarize results, I included all the guys you mentioned. If you said I hope for___ but expect ___, I included both. I did not include GermanEagle’s daughters’ picks. They seem to follow the Washington school of cap management.
A. Alshon – zero, oddly. No one said they expect, or want, him.
B. Britt – 4, in a late surge of support
C. Cooks – 1, surprising but likely related to the anticipated cost
D. DeSean – 2, fading as the price tag seemingly grows
E. Pryor – 5, despite multiple reports of assholery, the odds on favorite
F. Stills – 0, yet still…
G. Garçon – 1, not of love, but expectations of bargain shopping
H. Smith – 3, seems to be connecting the dots exercise
I. A non-Cooks trade – 1, because that Howie do it
J. A different FA – A few names mentioned include Woods, Goodwin, Maclin, Wheaton
K. Keep our guys, no changes – 0, indicating either a lack of sadists or masochists on our board, not sure which.
hahaha!
Britt, Cooks (2nd and maybe some change), and Bouye are my ideal.
If that that happens I’ll buy you a cholcoate fudge!
A chocolate fudge fountain or a piece of chocolate fudge?
That would be a ‘piece of cake’. Literally. lol
You will Cooks him a Britt of cake?
Chocolate foundations are usually terrible because they usually use such a lower grade of cacao. Ones that use a high grade and quality fresh fruit are ridiculously expensive at a catered event.
Basically like liquid Hershey bars which are equally as gross.
Regardless of which free, celebratory chocolatey dessert GermanEagle provides, it is sure to be met with a lot of negativity and second-guessing by a decent portion of the Eagles’ fan base.
That would make me very happy. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/449d1a331e7aa07454f7a4663b341ccfbeb880f98fb28eca888ea5b709ea22b3.jpg
L. Draft picks 🙂
Very much expect either a couple of leftovers out of the bargain bin that no one has mentioned (or heard of) or for Howie to step out of a time machine with vintage Jerry Rice signed for what Jerry thinks is an obscene amount of money
Regardless of which WR the Eagles acquire in FA, it is sure to be met with a lot of negativity and second-guessing by a decent portion of the Eagles’ fan base.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Yeah, but he’s not wrong.
The only thing I didn’t want them to do at WR is spend huge money on Jeffrey. I highly doubt they do that either.
Lukewarm on bringing back Jackson too but it depends more on what else they do as well as how the contract is structured.
Love to see a trade for Cooks if it is a 2nd rounder and a player.
If I like the move, I’ll say so but I’m not going to fluff a move I don’t like either.
I like Stevie Johnson as the cheap vet signing, if the physical clears him.
Is it 2008 still?!
Great argument against Desean. You should tell that to GermanEag…..oh… wait….
You’re not seriously comparing Stevie Johnson to DeSean, are you?! Lol…
In terms of speed guys getting older, yes I am. In terms of quality of NFL players, no.
God, I really hope not.
Watching cooks highlights it’s obvious that he’s dumb fast and has good hands. The weird thing is I don’t see a single example of him making a defender miss when he was unreal at that in college. Just seems weird
He just runs past them now.
Eagles Rumors: Legal Tampering Period
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/03/07/eagles-rumors-legal-tampering/
Did we sign anyone yet?
I thought nothing could be announced until Thursday…it’s just a negotiation period…
Intentions can be announced, but formal contracts cannot be signed until Thursday (see Frank Gore last year, or AL).
Numbers and years will start coming out by this evening- GM’s and agents don’t want to give the appearance that they had things in place before the “legal” tampering period officially started, hence the delay in actual information.
TY.
I know…Was just being sarcastic.
Its 1216, wheres my Christmas in march present?
You need to wait until 12:25.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f675a17fbb35f24a1d5af16bd547df9b7f435960db4314330744a49b53a6fd8.png
Am I the only one here who doesnt think that Brandin Cooks is a true no. 1 receiver? I mean.. He is fast and can stretch the field, and he is great on sweeps and end arounds. But he has not been consistent the focus of an offensive gameplan. He tends to disappear in games, just like another speedster who once played for the eagles. He doesnt consistently move the chains, is not a volume catcher and is a problem in the redzone because of his small stature. I see him as a slightly less refined route runner than Desean, with more physicality in stead. Which means that, like Desean, he can be a very good receiver that forces the defense to account for him, but not someone who you can really build your passing attack around. You are not giving up a 1 for that guy if he is going to also need a huge contract in the near future. I think we would be much better off drafting one of the good ones with that pick – or taking a top flight CB prospect, sign a few quality veteran WRs and drafting a speedster in the 2. or later in the draft.
I think the term “#1 WR” is dumb.
That having been said, I think what you are referring to is how the Saints used him, and not about who he is/what his limitations are. Brees spreads it around a lot, and one of the main reasons he’s potentially on the trade market is because he’s complaining about the way N.O. used him…
It seems to be that what you are saying is that the saints used him poorly and didnt exploit his talents. I guess I feel like Sean Payton and Drew Brees are the ones to trust here, not the player who is soon up for a contract extension.
Fair enough. I’m not alone in my thoughts here though. I guess we can agree to disagree.
Well I never claimed to have any scouting prowess whatsoever! I was sort of asking in honest about your opinion. If they do trade for him, I hope he is a beast. I was just wondering if I am looking at the same thing as everyone else, since there seem to be a lot of enthusiasm surrounding Cooks and yet, I am just not that excitet about him for whatever reason. I want a dude who can go and get it when they double team him. I dont think cooks is that guy. Just like Desean was never that guy.
Desean was never a refined route runner. He ran like 5 routes here.
And Cooks is. Thumbs up
Isnt he himself the one implying that they only used him on goroutes and sweeps and didnt let him run the full route tree?
Desean has his limitations, like I mentioned. But I have never seen anyone suggest that he did not run excellent routes.
yes
Cooks is an NFL proven commodity. Every player in the draft is a lottery ticket… cheaper? Yes Better? Maybe, but not likely.
This offense isn’t going to be run through 1 elite WR; therefore, the Eagles don’t have to go looking for or settle for less than Calvin Johnson. They need to develop a group of pass catchers who can make plays.
Cooks would be asked to be part of the solution, not THE solution.
Okay, I think we agree about him then. My point is: with the 14th overall pick in a very intriguing draft with lots of talent in the first half of round one – do you really want to give up that pick for a non-elite receiver who is going to be part of a group of pass catchers? I say no. With this pick you need to aspire to get a difference maker, if not for certain then at least one who might be that good. Coupled with the contract differences (rookies are cheap) I think that is way too expensive for Cooks, and I have a feeling that Roseman agrees which is why the deal hasnt been done yet. Besides, they know it is going to take a couple more offseasons and progression from Wentz before the turnaround is complete. It makes all kinds of sense to try and draft a talent with that pick, that will still be on a rookie contract when they have to extend Wentz and make a real run for the postseason in something like 2019/2020.
So.. I think it is a second rounder and possibly a player, and I will feel good if that happens but not like we fleeced the Saints. I mean, Drew Brees and Sean Payton couldnt make him a superstar. There is just no reason to believe that he is going to be one, when he comes to play for us.
Yeah, I think that’s where most people on this board are… feeling great about trading a 2nd or even a 2nd plus Kendricks, but I haven’t seen too many guys feeling so good about Cooks that they would want to offer pick 14. This is a really interesting situation.
Torrey Smith is officially a free agent.
Also, JEEZ COME ON NFL! Someone make some noise! I’m dying here!
I will pay him $3 to sign with us, today. Anyone want to go in on it with me?
I have a couple bucks and some old receipts. How could he turn that down?
Forgot about receipts, let me look.
I have an excessive amount of oolong tea. Perhaps I could offer up a few ounces to sweeten the deal.
https://twitter.com/JFMcMullen/status/839164138278555649
What is our real cap space? Does anyone know? I don’t know how he’s figuring the number. If it includes money for draft picks etc…
overthecap is down or overloaded.
spotrac says
Est. Cap Space (All):
$2,087,476
Est. Cap Space (Top 51):
$8,132,476
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles
It’s about $8m currently- top 51 salaries count now, as opposed to all 53 later in the offseason (don’t remember exactly when the change takes place).
So McMullen was clueless to start with I’m guessing . I thought it was 8 millionish before. He thought it was 12.5 and NFLPA just released 8.5 million number.
Sites look at cap numbers differently; its usually a combination of a few numbers averaged out but if NFLPA put it out, go with that………
With our numbers, we really aren’t going to free up significant money this year; suggestions of trading Curry are ridiculous, as there’s no way to replace him with the dead money we will incur.
Graham would really be our only valuable trade piece (his contract is OUTSTANDING in value) but then we would lose our best pass rusher. Shouldn’t happen, but then again we all thought Oakafor would be gone and Noel would stay.
I know this won’t be a popular opinion, but does anyone else think that Sproles may be released? It would save us $4m in cap space this year, which would go a long way in helping us stack for the future.
It’s clear that he is in the final year of his NFL career, so he’s out of our future plans. Also, he counts for $0 of dead money on the cap.
I’d say not guaranteed any which way. Much higher chance he stays though.
Agreed, and the value he adds to the team outweighs his cap hit- but money is tight and he’s a luxury.
Definitely a luxury considering we are in semi rebuild mode.
Rumor mill:. The browns offered Pryor a deal in the neighborhood of $8M a year. He’s seeking more than $10M a year.
They keep saying it’s a deep draft at CB but I don’t want just an okay CB I want a potential shut down corner and I think they’ve put that on the back burner for way too long. I really doubt lattimore will be there at 14 but he would be awesome in our defense or Sidney Jones. Then would love to see them trade 2nd and mychael kendricks (who will probably be way better on a different team) for Brandin Cooks, maybe Joe Mixon or Dede Westbrook in the 3rd, then we need DE and maybe linebackers too. Imagine Dede, Mixon, Cooks, Wentz, Matthews, DGB (if he ever develops), a defense who can defend a pass and not get PI every other play.
So Wentz, Cooks and the woman beaters?
Lmao I mean would you rather watch algholor struggle lining up let alone catch the damn ball. I’m not saying their actions should be taken lightly but this is football. Not church.
Plenty of good football players who aren’t flaming pieces of shit.
There are. So you’re telling me if we had a chance to have Adrian Peterson, though he did beat his child & im not saying mixon compares to him at all, that you wouldn’t take him because he is a flaming piece of shit? lol surround them with the right people who will hold them accountable and I feel like we have a good enough locker room to do that.
“They’re not comparable” compares them anyways.
I don’t need everyone to be academic all americans with perfect wholsome character. I’d take a flyer on the Al Quadin Muhammad kid from Miami.
Mixon’s punishment for the video was a redshirt year. You know, twist an ankle or KO a women, take a redshirt.
Dede isn’t a particularly good prospect to begin with. He’s old, undersized, has serious medicals and has repeatedly laid hands on childs mother. NAH.
DGB ran from his shit, got to hang out at Oklahoma for six months (Bob Stoops really can pick em) and then left for the draft. He’s sure been worth the headache so far…
Mixon’s “formal” punishment was a red-shirt year– how about what he is facing currently? NFL teams have taken him off of their board, he’s gone from a potential Day 1 pick to possible Day 3 option; in other words, consequences come in all forms and shapes and what he is going through currently is part of that punishment.
Just like Vick and the dog fighting incident- people will always hate him for the crimes he committed. I get that, understand that, and can see that perspective. But he did his time and in our system, he’s paid his debt. Doesn’t change what he did, but his punishment (legal) is complete.
Maybe Mixon has changed- that was over 2 years ago. I’m not sure where DeDe fits on the spectrum, and DGB doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the shed. But this business is cut throat, and if you can play there will always be someone willing to take a chance on you until there isn’t. That’s just the way it is.
I’m a sucker for a redemption story; if they all can succeed, go for it.
Just think what that would do for our jersey sales- all those women lined up to burn Eagles merchandise.
You might be on to something…………..
Great name for the garage-band from Philly if it happens though.
So saw this morning that we currently have 8.6M space; will that go down by 2.5 when Burton signs his tender or has that amount already been accounted for?
This tamper period sucks. Nothing crazy yet! Sad!
BLG being cryptic with tweets now. Not cool!!!!!
He’s always been a wiener roll.
yes that’s not cool and probably means not good news when he used the term ‘interesting’…
https://twitter.com/SpikeEskin/status/839185041032888320
Eskin getting into the troll act too.
If you’re talking about Howard Eskin, then yes, he’s always been a troll. …
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/839187885282689024
any bites?
Hope he isn’t out on one of those half-day ocean fishing trips that only go out 1-1.5 miles that fish wrecks.
They are a complete waste of time generally given how fished out the local shores are.
It’s like the NFL world has gone silent.
Calm before the storm.
You have to think that Howie is on the hot seat if there isn’t a good rumor by sundown.
I disagree with the premise of this article. It’s not so much agents, players, and teams leaking stuff. It’s actually beat reporters and even the national guys quite simply making shit up that could happen. For instance, everyone knows the Eagles need WR help. So these guys just tweet out that the Eagles are reportedly interested in XYZ top WR free agent. If they don’t end up getting him, no one remembers the incorrect tweet, because even if it were legitimate, you don’t always get the players you want. But if you’re right, you look like you had inside information.
TL;DR: The Eagles are heavily interested in Terrelle Pryor. My guys inside the organization tell me they covet him. If they get him, you heard it here first boys. If they don’t, some last minute details prevented this from happening but I was still right.
TL;DR:TL;DR: Tautologies
I’m fairly confident there’s a synergistic relationship between all those parties.
Getting hits on your tweets and increasing your local footprint can be done by getting real information or making it up, and to the observer there is no difference. Most guys exaggerate. Some of these are pure speculation dressed as insider knowledge. The world is full of fakers.
I disagree. The beat writers and national guys talk to the agents, players, and teams. I respect Tommy’s knowledge and don’t think he’d lead us astray.
Nah. Even if you look at these tweets:
“Eagles expected to show interest” – that means basically nothing and has no falsifiability
“Keep an eye on Torrey Smith to the Eagles” – that means literally nothing and has no falsifiability
Unless being fed funyons by Megan Fox was the price.
I see what u did there.
I always thought it would be valuable to start a counterintelligence function in an NFL front office that tries to actively provide and promote disinformation via third-parties including reporters.
Can’t imagine the league would act very kindly to that though.
You don’t need to when they’re already making up stuff for you. Remember all the interest Chip Kelly had in returning to college?
Scot McCloughan not at Redskins Park for start of free agent negotiations.
I don’t know who in Washington is more dysfunctional, the Redskins or the White House.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/03/07/scot-mccloughan-not-at-redskins-park-for-start-of-free-agent-negotiations/?utm_term=.df0e8c005ee7
Has he resorted to full-blown drinking again and that is why they will terminate his contract?
yes
They really are keeping the story alive by keeping him on staff. But then again, if his alcoholism is diagnosed he could be viewed as an employee with a disability which would complicate his release from the organization.
Very good point.
I suspect, though, that McCloughan’s already agreed to a severance/buy-out package that requires him to sign a written waiver of all claims he may have under the ADA (and a host of other laws).
He’d have a pretty tough ADA claim, I think, against Washington, too (putting aside that he’d be destroying any chance of NFL-related employment).
Assuming he’s drinking again and so requested the “reasonable accommodation” of time-off to get treatment . . .
I think Washington has a good argument that the requested accommodation — during the run-up to the draft — imposes an undue hardship on the team.
And the decision to sever ties is not because he’s drinking, but because — oh, make up a reason, like — he’s not playing well with others in the front office.
Finally, my recollection is that NFL front office people must bring all disputes / grievances against their teams to arbitration before the commissioner . . .
A likely loser for McCloughan — and every other employee.
His history complicates the situation, along with the amount of media time and “leaks” which have happened- if this were a typical employee of a non-billion dollar corporation, it wouldn’t make a splash in our lives. The fact that his previous bouts are well recognized and recorded doesn’t bode well with possible slander or any other civil rights violation he might pursue.
He could try to pull HIPPA violations (Cooley brought up his drinking previously which wasn’t refuted by the Redskins) but again- it goes back to a he said she said conversation and if it wasn’t the organization releasing the medical information directly, I doubt that anyone would find solid ground in which to present a case.
You are spot on in your assessment– and I would guess that he had a termination clause in his contract if he relapsed or needed to seek treatment again (standard, from what I understand when dealing with employees with addiction).
In the end- it’s a loss for him and his life; he’s a hell of a front office player, and he was transforming the LOLSkins into a contender. It’s a shame that alcohol is ruining his life again, but that’s the insanity of battling addiction. It never stops.
Very nice point abt the “termination clause.”
Question: Is a termination clause in an employment contract that’s triggered by conduct otherwise covered by the ADA an unlawful prospective waiver of his ADA rights and therefore unenforceable?
This I’m not terribly familiar with- each company (from what I understand) can approach it differently. Employee handbook/policy/procedure all factors into it, along with employee history, severity of issue, any legals factors, and company “visibility” with the public.
His case is a bit different since its a known disability and issue- he has a history. In a case where someone seeks treatment (without prior data or history) there would be more grey area. As you stated earlier- “reasonable accommodation” can only be applied in a case by case basis.
In the end (at least in this case) there was probably an agreement before employment outlining the procedures if he began drinking again and the termination that would (likely) follow.
Sb2bowl –
Your last paragraph is an excellent 3-sentence epitaph on a super-talented, super-tortured guy.
“Assuming he’s drinking again”
He never stopped.
He fucking drank in front of a reporter doing a profile on him and his “comeback”
Coach –
So the story’s being framed as an “off the wagon” tale.
Is your view that Washington (Bruce Allen) is putting that story-line out there strictly for optics?
ALSO – if you ran an NFL team, would you hire McCloughan? if so, what job?
Responded to the second part on twitter.
Bruce and Dan are both rich assholes who can’t stand not being in charge or sober.
The Seahawks will not be tendering a restricted free agency offer to CB DeShawn Shead or LB Brock Coyle…
Mmmmh, interesting. I always liked Shead. He could be an under the radar signing for the Eagles!
He tore his acl in playoffs.
Oh.
Lol. I’ve been refreshing my twitter every minute but absolutely nothing.
same. anti climatic.
id even take a fake rumor from that guy that broke the byron maxwell news that started the feud with Jimmy K
Apparently ‘saw’ Kenny Britt in AC and he confirmed that he was signing with the Eagles. FWIW…
First of all, there is NOTHING going on in AC.
Nothing. The city’s all but closed.
So right there, I’ve shot down your rumor.
It still has some decent restaurants including in Margate but outside of the Borgata your right.
Ah . . . Margate.
Clermont Ave beach?
Cassel’s supermarket?
Dino’s whipped tuna sub w/ the works?
(As long as the bread’s fresh)
Only been a few times since I am usually down in Stone Harbor or Avalon but I have enjoyed Margate.
Whipped tuna sounds like baby food for cats.
RC-
That’s really funny. Really, really funny.
I never heard of whipped tuna.
My niece is a chef and she practically only ate tuna fish for lunch when she was a kid. I’ll have to ask her if she heard of it haha.
Tuna fish variations seem to be a staple of a number of chefs I know including two of my ex-roommates & good friends in Boston.
Never had ‘whipped tuna’ either. It seems like a gimmicky way to tell tuna salad on a ‘french baguette’ (roll) for $10+ dollars.
Did they discount the whipped Tuna anytime the Eagles beat a Parcells led team?
The bastards at Dino’s often used YESTERDAY’s bread.
So that’s a no.
Sounds like they should have offered BYOB (bring your own bread) at Dino’s.
I like the Borgata. And it brought me luck since I won because of lucky number 7!!!
Oh you and nostalgia…
Who saw?
Sorry. ‘Someone’. lol
https://twitter.com/EliotShorrParks/status/839213432247287808
The Eagles are going after E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.
Not Chip Kelly. We can rule that one out.
Has Fox agreed to hire him as analyst?
Good.
Note: except that it is from ESP
I don’t really want them to spend big money on a CB.
I’d rather us not box ourselves into a specific position. Right now we need 2-3 WRs (if JMatt is traded) and 2-3 CBs (if Ron Brooks is cut); So forcing ourselves to draft a corner in the first round and later seems like poor management.
It may make some sense if they trade for Cooks.
Cooks, Bouye and Britt are my hope.
And counterpoint…
https://twitter.com/brandongowton/status/839218750746472448
We have 2 holes at CB. Going into the draft and looking for 2 2017 starters on the outside is tough. Sign a guy and draft a guy makes far more sense for the Eagles. Still draft 2 CB’s high and you have depth/development, and if you hit on both guys cut your FA in 2019.
I’m sure Brandon is a nice guy — but “fact” and never spending money on a big FA CB would make Roseman an idiot. Roseman too smart to be that close minded…
Wait. That was Brandon quoting Les who reported what an agent told him about Howie. I don’t think Brandon is responsible for the views.
“Interesting”
The ol’ triple smokescreen set by Howie?
Jimmy Bama with the “eagles should trade JM” article — any tea leaves to be read there?
Everytime Jimmy K. posts something like that, this is sort of a death penalty for the player..
Somebody ask him to put up a “will Eagles trade Agholor” article up.
Could be, or could be more like this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrD16CBEJRs
That was posted yesterday, he’s trying to cultivate page views.
Pryor trolling with his twitter header?
https://twitter.com/TerrellePryor
Scanning how he is following is fascinating. He follows a lot of NFL reporters both locally and nationally, a bunch of ex-NFL players & current ones, as well as the Chiefs’ communications twitter feed (along with several current Chiefs’ players).
Most completely random is this one:
https://twitter.com/GSNorCal
Yes, really interesting. And how on earth can someone like him have already 162+ thousand followers?! I always thought there’s only a handful of Browns fans in this world..
Followers are irrelevant since so many are bogus on Twitter. General estimates are at least 30% of all accounts are bots and more than half are non-active.
Still a lot, no?!
Not if he goes out and buys a huge block of followers which I bet he has.
Really weird who he follows. He follows a bunch of whitest of white golfers (including Bubba Watson and Rory McElroy), a bunch of gymnasts (likely fetish), and Riley Cooper (WTF)?
I find it rather weird that you are stalking him whom he follows. lol
Just a quick break from writing and he only had 563 followers.
Twitter is a widely scrapped web resource not only by private marketing companies but also by intelligence services.
If I was signing a guy who has all kind of questionable character marks, I certainly would pay someone to dig through his social media to provide me with more insights.
If you get access to this Facebook page and his ‘likes’, you can build a more accurate profile than almost any other resource available. Only need about 300 various ‘Likes’ to do so and even at 150 get incredibly accurate personality assessments.
Cambridge Analytica has already started doing this and advertises on its website: “We collect up to 5,000 data points on over 220 million Americans, and use more than 100 data variables to model target audience groups and predict the behaviour of like-minded people.” Basically if you are on social media, they have built an intelligence profile on you.
They have used this supposedly to build 160 various persona types for each American and if you believe the true conspiracy stuff Palantir has done the same for individual Americans in terms of future security risk for the NSA taking it several steps beyond what Snowden disclosed.
Dude, relax. I was kidding only.
Not offense taken. I’m sure that teams who are looking at questionable character guys in the draft/FA do their share of due diligence on them.
There is just now a completely new set of data & tools available out there to supplement this and in most cases exceed other more traditional efforts.
Is that an Eagle eye?!
Every year Tommy tells us to read Spadaro because he gives clues as to what is going to happen in free agency. Here is a blurb from Dave yesterday:
“A prediction, and I’m not sure why I feel this way: I say receivers aren’t going to get the astronomical dollars that many feel are coming. Why pay receivers when another strong group is coming in the draft? To me, it makes more sense to give the big money to the interior positions and the difference-makers at cornerback. Running backs, for sure, are going to scratch for big contracts, particularly veterans like Jamaal Charles and Adrian Peterson. Which receivers are going to get huge dollars? I know, I know, it only takes one team ..”
WR is not really a strong position in the draft. CB and Edge rushers and TEs are what Mayock raves about in this draft. RB is strong as well.
Does that reality, combined with Spud’s spin imply that (our commenter with sunglasses) Dave might be on to something? The conclusion that Spadaro doesn’t know about the draft class seems unlikely.
Also, Spud’s spin makes me crave curly fries.
Mayock is an overzealous buffoon
I get that he said this, and I want Bouye. That being said, CB is probably the deepest position in the draft so what he is saying doesn’t really justify his point.
Wouldnt you rather be looking at Bouye and not be forced into picking a CB, if not 2, in the first 3 rounds? Deep or not, not sure many people want two starting rookie CBs. Look how that played out for Carolina. Granted, Bradbury looks legit..
I just said I wanted Bouye. I was saying Dave Spadaro’s writing about how deep the WR position is in order to justify his means does not make any sense due to CB probably being the deepest in the draft.
I want a WR or two and CB in Free Agency, so we have the freedom to pick the best players in the draft.
Got it. Mis-read.
Unless he specifically is trying to prep us for no WRs being signed…
Which wouldn’t be promising…I disagree with Spuds know depth of WR in this draft class.
I cannot envision that happening. Way too many options out there for nobody to be added.
Need to at least one starting WR and CB in FA given what is on their roster.
CB is so unpredictable. Even the good ones usually take a few years to come around.
To be fair, if we either sign AJ Bouye or draft a CB high, we’ll still have a massive gap at CB to be filled by Jalen Mills. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we double dipped and drafted a CB with our first rounder after splashing on a CB in FA.
At this point, I dont really care, just add young talent with good deals. We probably won’t compete in 2017, just make the roster around Carson Wentz better.
When you don’t draft well you end up overpaying for FAs and blowing your cap.
true that
I know it’s early, but shouldn’t there already be some ‘pre-signings’ by now?
NFL was angry last year too many deals got done before free agency officially started, I imagine deals are going down but teams and agents are keeping the details quite for now.
Who knows if this is credible but Webster may be a good pick up and he’s connected to Undlin.
The Philadelphia Eagles are one of two teams interested in free agent cornerback Kayvon Webster, according to a report from Brandon Krisztal of KOA News Radio in Denver.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/3/7/14847256/2017-nfl-free-agency-rumors-eagles-broncos-kayvon-webster-denver-philadelphia-cory-undlin-coach
https://twitter.com/SmittyBarstool/status/839238090136907776
If this is accompanied by Cooks, I am satisfied.
That being said, shut your mouth dude.
At least he’s happy about being an Eagle. Im ok with it
Wonder if one was from incarcerated bob.
Yeah definitely take the source with a grain of salt. Just was interesting to hear about him potentially “bragging last night about it.”
Knew we’d do a wack move like this. Reminds me of the WR signings we made last year #value
What’s wack about it? Without numbers, there’s literally nothing to base a judgment off of. He’s more competent than anything on our current roster, so it’s an upgrade. Question is how much the upgrade costs.
there’s nothing to compare him to on the eagles roster….so he is a step above something I guess
He is a step or two above what they signed last offseason and he better be since none of those guys even made the Week 1 roster.
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/838836318192996352
Hope we didn’t break the bank for him if true.
That guy is an Eliot Shor Parks level choad. Allbright, Lombardo, and Shorr-Parks are the 3 guys who I had to flush off of the timeline.
I only follow Albright during free agency. He is a tool for sure, but he has real sources. If I remember correctly, he broke the Foles/Bradford trade.
I agree that Lombardi and ESP are horrible on Twitter and stopped following them a while ago.
ESP reminds me of the old Eagles message board and all the (serious) URLAKKERZZZZZZ guys. Except ESP gets paid to be a dumbass.
He “breaks” a ton of stories. Unfortunately people only remember the ones that actually come to fruition and not all the times he turned out dead wrong.
I think he has legitimate sources and just passes off what he is told. I don’t think he makes stuff up like “reading the tea leaves Jimmy Kempski”. That being said, he seems like a real asshat as a human being.
It all goes back to a random dude using a picture of a receipt with Britt’s name on it as evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/eagles/comments/5y3yw6/take_it_for_what_its_worth_kenny_britt_is_in_ac/
You would think his credit card would have his name as Ken or Kenneth.
Even if it was him, he’s from New Jersey. It proves nothing. But it wouldn’t be a big surprise if we signed him.
That would be pretty easy to fake, right? Anyone have any experience running one of those newfangled cash registers?
If its on reddit its good enough for me.
NFL Network’s Stacey Dales named the Raiders and Seahawks as “desirable landing spots” for free agent Adrian Peterson.
The Washington Post reports the Patriots and Cowboys are also interested in free agent DeSean Jackson.
Interesting. Would have thought AP would have been snapped up. Think it might take a while for Jamaal Charles to find a landing spot.
Djax, please don’t go to Dallas.
If I recall correctly, there’s bad blood between DeSean and Belichek. I seem to remember some works being exchanged, related to how DeSean isn’t a Patriots-style player. Don’t think Belicheck is going to appreciate him not showing up for OTAs, or talking back. But maybe Bill secretly listens to “Diamonds on My Neck” every day on the drive to practice.
Brady would tear Djax a new one.
CBS’ Jason La Canfora reports the Jaguars are a “potential landing spot” for free agent CB A.J. Bouye.
Another name to toss around is Corradelle Patterson.
No thanks. Enough wasted talent here already!
Hey . . . RC5000 —
Whipped Tuna . . .
It’s a Margate thing (grew up there / always my home).
http://www.shorenewstoday.com/mainland/news/dino-s-of-northfield-to-open-today/article_fb3c8ffd-8a7d-5df9-9f55-381c791265e6.html
The Philadelphia Eagles are one of four teams to show interest in impending free agent linebacker Paul Worrilow, according to a report from Jeff Howe of the Boston Herald. The New England Patriots, Detroit Lions, and Indianapolis Colts are the other teams interested in Worrilow.
Worrilow went to Concord High in Wilmington and U of Delaware in case you didn’t know.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/3/3/14810572/eagles-free-agency-2017-philadelphia-nfl-paul-worrilow-falcons-linebacker-mychal-kendricks-trade
He and Keenan Robinson are the two guys I would look to replace Kendricks with. Both have alot of experience, solid if low end starters. Will make money that makes sense for a 300 snap plus insurance role (3ish million)
Somebody dug this up lol.
Is this not a disqualifying event?
No amount of money will cause this guy, as an Eagle, to do anything but bounce around Texas Stadium after the Eagles lose to the Cowboys smiling and high-fiving his ‘Boys.
And then explain it with some line about how he’s all business between the lines, but “it’s just a game, dog.”
Yeah F*ck him lol.
“it’s just a game, dog.” — hilarious
Smallwood’s act was much more egregious. I still don’t like him. Think I can forgive a loyal fan though. We shall turn him to thw dark side.
Lolskins
https://twitter.com/ChadwikoRCC/status/839249622082072576
Aaron Wilson is a good source for this kind of stuff.
Texans corner A.J. Bouye’s offers averaging $12 million or higher
http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/All-Texans-A-J-Bouye-offers-averaging-12-million-10984334.php
Yeah he already said we weren’t viewed as a top suitor but it’s a fluid situation.
No, they’re not.
https://twitter.com/IanKenyonNFL/status/839250534611759108
Will be ‘enough’ to not need to force a pick in the 1st. If a WR is BPA then grab him ofc, but the WR class is decently deep and there are some interesting options in the 2nd and 3rd.
The team could go into the season with goes guys and some more lower tier dudes and let them battle in camp, same as last year. Moves WR much lower on the “need” b/c you have a lot of guys in the mix there.
Problem for me is that none of those guys is what i’d consider good.
Depends on what they do at CB in FA.
Lol.
Last Kenny Britt retweet was this:
https://twitter.com/Jeffrey_len/status/838188855970922507
Then again…
Yeah but the league has obviously clamped down this year, he just doesn’t want to be the one getting the letter. Doesn’t change much (although I can hope it does – don’t really want him unless Cooks is the compliment)
??
sorry, my disqus is acting up
Meaning hes an Eagle
Year after year all of the news, rumors, and reports are bullshit. Most of them are transparently so — “likely to be interested”, “a match” etc.
So this is when I ask: why do we bother taking any of this seriously?
Because, sadly, we are a bunch of “grown” men with nothing better to do
ill take anything even remotely related to football right now.
Same reason you’re obsessed with Koy Detmer still?
He broke up your parents’ marriage too?
I owned your parents
I’m really hoping the get some mistake free signings concluded. I can’t stomach any more Maxwell and Nnamdi level lazy.
incarcerated Bob LOL
https://twitter.com/incarceratedbob/status/839277661209964545
I would be expected to show intetest in Megan Fox if she was available.
Pre face surgery at a huge premium to post surgery
Upgrade to Gal Gadot
Alessa Quizon .. local Hawaiian girl mo ‘betta than Megan Fox
Did the league put the clamps down on teams so that no leaks get out during the tampering period? Today has been a giant tease. We heard rumors all last week and today almost nothing. Free Agency Blue Balls
In this mock I assumed:
We kept Bennie and didn’t add anybody at CB or WR who would be a true #1. I traded down in the 2nd and the 3rd.
Round 1 Pick 14: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 18 (T.B.): Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A)
Round 3 Pick 12 (N.O.): Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A-)
Round 3 Pick 20 (T.B.): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (C+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (N.O.): Julien Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B+)
Round 4 Pick 12: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 32 (COMP): Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 11: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B+)
Round 6 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Taquan Mizzell, RB, Virginia (C)
If we aren’t able to add in FA, we are going to need a bunch more secondary help or last year we will seem like the legion of boom compared to what we field in 2017.
I think we’ll add; just not top guys.
Agreed, but that was my only disappointment with this draft– if they don’t bring at least 1 CB out of it (probably 2) then it’ll be a disappointment. One of our issues is the lack of home grown continuity and the inability to coach up the prospects we have drafted. Not that I’d be “happy” with investing our first 2 or 3 picks on the secondary (especially considering they would all need to receive contract extensions if things worked out perfectly), but at least we would take a rather aggressive approach to solve a major talent issue.
So, to summarize the day, we know WR and CB are the biggest needs. Spuds is convinced we aren’t signing a WR and an agent has Les convinced we aren’t signing a CB?
I think we know who is playing who(m). Howie is playing everyone like Riley Cooper with an air guitar at a Kenny Chesney concert.
Maybe we’re just not signing anybody big.
we have to move some people (kendricks, barwin, etc.) — so we can’t just do nothing in the offseason.
Interesting we haven’t heard anything on logan.
I think we’ll add guys for sure, but not any huge names.
But…big people beat up little people…
You know that’s not Howie do things
This seems like the least amount of cap space they’ve had in a while.
If this year’s free agency follows last year’s, we have no idea what Howie will do. Did anyone really foresee the Brandon Brooks and Rodney McLeod signings?
Brooks yes.