Oh No, Beau

Posted: April 8th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 64 Comments »

Looks like a really good thing that the Eagles made the trade for Tim Jernigan.

That isn’t good news.

Allen had a chance to compete for a starting job this season. Odds are that Jernigan would have beaten him out, but you never know. All players want is a fair chance to win a job. Now Allen will be focusing on rehabbing his arm instead of improving his game. He can still be a valuable part of the DT rotation, if he does get healthy and is ready to go with little practice time.

The starters should be okay. Fletcher Cox and Tim Jernigan are talented, veteran DTs. After them, things are pretty open. Destiny Vaeao played 268 snaps as a rookie. That is about 16 per game. By comparison, Allen played 412 snaps, which included 3 starts. Is Vaeao ready to play a lot more? Can he play well?

The guy who benefits from this is Aziz Shittu. The Eagles list him at 6-2, 288. That’s his college size. You have to think he would have bulked up a little since getting into the NFL. His game is always going to be more about quickness than power, but a bit more bulk could help him handle NFL competition. Shittu flashed ability last summer. It will be interesting to see if he’s better this year and can really compete for a roster spot.

Justin Hamilton is also on the roster. He has good size at 6-2, 315. We just have to see if Hamilton is talented enough to make his case for a roster spot.

The Eagles could look for a cheap veteran to add. Roy Miller would be ideal, but he’s rehabbing an Achilles injury. Sen’Derrick Marks would be interesting at the right price. The team could look at Corbin Bryant, who played for Jim Schwartz in Buffalo back in 2014. Bryant was a bad fit for Rex Ryan’s defense and struggled last season. He might be worth giving a cheap deal to. He does have experience in the scheme. If he pans out, fine. If he doesn’t, you cut him.

Obviously the Eagles could just focus on the draft. This isn’t a great class of DTs, but there are some players that fit what the Eagles are looking for. I think Chris Wormley would be a real interesting target in the 2nd round. Montravious Adams is another player I love who could be in that area.

There are quite a few mid-round guys of interest: Elijah Qualls, Jaleel Johnson, Ryan Glasgow, Jarron Jones and Carlos Watkins. Let’s not forget that Allen was a 7th round pick. The Eagles could find a player at the bottom of the draft who could come in and help with depth.

Allen’s injury isn’t the end of the world. Heck, it probably won’t even be the end of the season for him. But it does create uncertainty at a key position. If there is one definite upside to this it is the timing. The Eagles have some free agent targets left. They also have the draft. We’ll find out just how worried they are by the moves they make in the next month.


64 Comments on “Oh No, Beau”

  1. 1 wee2424 said at 10:09 PM on April 8th, 2017:

    Shame. Hopefully that is it for the bad luck.

  2. 2 ColorSgt said at 10:31 PM on April 8th, 2017:

    I always liked Beau. He’s done a good job making the most of his opportunity as a 7th round pick. He’s been improving with experience and I liked him in the DL rotation. Hopefully this will heal quickly and he won’t miss much of the season, but I’ve heard other reports that it could be worse.

  3. 3 Ray888 said at 2:05 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Since players can’t be around the Nova Care Complex at this time of year, presumally he was working out on his own. It may not have made a difference, but another reason to change the CBA.

  4. 4 Sb2bowl said at 7:51 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    As D3 stated, at this point it’s considered a non-football injury.

  5. 5 A_T_G said at 8:24 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Right, which is crap. It’s not like he went on some Himalayan motocross adventure. He hurt himself preparing for the season.

  6. 6 D3FB said at 8:36 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    I heard he was actually trying to bench press sharks. In the woods of Wisconsin. This was frankly bound to happen.

  7. 7 A_T_G said at 8:41 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    What an idiot. Do you know how hard it is to get good sharks in Wisconsin? Every decent shark in the state has been released into waters where poor people swim by Paul Ryan.

  8. 8 D3FB said at 8:43 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    I only regret that I have but one upvote to give

  9. 9 Ray888 said at 12:50 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Someone swam by Paul Ryan?

  10. 10 Crus57 said at 1:01 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Do we know if Ernie Sims is involved?

  11. 11 wee2424 said at 7:01 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    While drinking a Dos Equis.

  12. 12 Sb2bowl said at 7:48 PM on April 9th, 2017:


  13. 13 Sb2bowl said at 11:34 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    Agreed- that should probably be something that is changed/amended in the next CBA but they will need to have a specific list of allowable training ideals for players.

    If they really wanted to do it correctly, they should make players full time employees. Off season and in season schedules (obviously) would be vastly different, but at least players would be covered when this type of injury occurs.

  14. 14 Ray888 said at 8:49 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Yes, it is a non-football injury as you state. If Eagles wanted to be difficult, they are not on the hook for anything – not his rehab nor his salary. This puts players in an impossible position career-wise. Don’t try to improve your strength, speed, agility on your own. Wait till collective agreement allows you to use team’s facilities. Oh, and while your waiting, the team just traded for a DT who wants to take away your chance to start. Coincidence that Allen maybe overdoes workout a few days after trade? As Jerhro Gibbs says, there’s no such thing.

  15. 15 Dominik said at 7:26 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Aside from Beau itself, for whom it sucks obviously and I feel with him, seems like a nice guy, I really hope that won’t change the draft plans up until round 5. 24 spots in the 3rd was worth it for Jernigan as a player, but it was also worth it because we didn’t need to invest a high pick for a DT. I know Schwartz likes to rotate these guys. But honestly, DT isn’t a priority with Jernigan anymore. 2x CB, RB, DE is far more impotant. I don’t care from rounds 5-7, but our 5 picks in the first 4 rounds are too valuable when you have Cox, Jernigan and Allen as your top 3 guys, even with the Allen injury. I’d prefer them to double down on DEs or triple dip at CB before they take a DT.

    And yeah, Jernigan could walk next year. But then, please, take care of that next year. With Vaeao and Shittu we already have two solid talents who could improve. Our DT rotation could already be set for the next few years with Cox, Jernigan, Allen and Vaeao + Shittu. And if not, look for a better draft class and draft one.

    Wormley would really bug me in the 2nd round. Draft is for the future, sure. But Cox is our future. Have to look for allocation of resources in the NFL.

  16. 16 A_T_G said at 7:35 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Howie and Joe must be almost as frustrated as Beau. They pull off a masterful job of repairing a hole in the roster, only to have the spot ext to it rip open.

    Anyone have a number for Derek Landri?

  17. 17 DanJ3645 said at 7:44 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Bet the price for Jernigan would have been a lot more if they were pulling the trigger after this injury at least

  18. 18 A_T_G said at 8:19 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    I thought about that, too. There is a fair chance they would just be getting a pick today, instead of swapping.

  19. 19 Dominik said at 8:23 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Well, I wouldn’t go overly dramatic here. According to Les, Beau could be back in September. He wouldn’t even a miss a reg season game if that’s the case.

    Does it suck he can’t compete in camp? Of course. Beau is a solid player, but he could have used the offseason workouts to improve. Now the “2nd year in the scheme” argument falls flat for him. But even if he misses two or three reg season games, he should be there when it matters and give us solid depth.

    On the bright side for the team: Vaeao and Shittu should get more quality (2nd team) reps. Could help them both. But again, I obviously would have preferred Beau getting those reps to improve his game.

    Also, to the DT position in general: they will take at least one, maybe 2 DE somewhere in the draft. Curry and Long should be able to play DT in obvious passing downs. So a little bit of relief there when it comes to snap distribution.

  20. 20 sonofdman said at 2:03 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Derek Landri is diving for the phone as we speak.

  21. 21 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Frustrating for sure, but it could be worse. Easier to replace a key backüp rotation guy, than have to replace a starter because of injury.
    Destiny Vaiao had some nice contributions last year showing some potential, hopefully he can make a significant year two leap if he is to replace Beau as the first DT off the bench.

  22. 22 Rellihcs said at 7:42 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    So there goes the no fullback plan eh?

  23. 23 GermanEagle said at 8:10 AM on April 9th, 2017:


  24. 24 Dave said at 8:11 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Kelce will need a job if Doug actually allows Seumalo to compete for the center position.

  25. 25 kajomo said at 8:30 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Kelce might be too small for FB

  26. 26 Rellihcs said at 8:48 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    There you go. While we are at, try Kendricks at RB.

  27. 27 D3FB said at 8:39 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Dillon Gordon

  28. 28 Rellihcs said at 8:49 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Our 20th Guard to make the 53 man roster?

  29. 29 D3FB said at 8:58 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Kelce’s not actually going to be here in September.

    OL will be: Peters, Barbre, Seumalo, Brooks, Lane
    Gordon, Warmack, Wiz, Vaitai

  30. 30 GermanEagle said at 11:35 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    I Like your crystal ball skillzzzz. So what will we get for Kelce? Or outright cut?

  31. 31 D3FB said at 8:27 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    I don’t think a ton.

    I think the ceiling there is probably a fifth. I think they would like to move him during the draft. Personally I would prefer a 7 to use on a high upside lottery ticket over a small move up.

    I think he comes to camp and runs with the ones if he’s not moved and you hope a deal comes along that you like.

    I don’t think he would be outright cut. If they really wanted to move him at the end of camp I’m sure somebody would at least offer a Kamu Grugier-Hill type.

  32. 32 GermanEagle said at 2:18 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    That’s a a pretty good bench if you ask me.

  33. 33 GermanEagle said at 8:11 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    I guess Taylor Hart’s short stint at OLine is over now..

  34. 34 A_T_G said at 8:16 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    Could be.

  35. 35 A_T_G said at 8:36 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    The photo for this article is Beau, but I in the background you can see an OL with his arm around Cox’s throat.


  36. 36 D3FB said at 8:39 AM on April 9th, 2017:

    That would be Vlad Ducasse

  37. 37 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:47 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Positions aren’t important. What matters is making The most of this opportunity to pick in the top 15. Obviously we won’t be competing for a superbowl this year, but if Wentz makes the improvements we hope to see this could be the last time we Get to pick this high so we have to make the most of this opportunity and make sure we come away with a future pro bowl caliber player who can be a core member of the Wentz era for years to come

    Looks like there wll only be a DT, maybe two amongst the first 14 players drafted which would probably make it a long shot for a DT ending up as the best available Talent at #14. but even if Beau hadnt gotten injured I wouldn’t have a problem if the Eagles felt there was a DT too talented to pass up. But it looks like there will be more DEs than DT amongst the top half of round 1.
    I worry that if Jonathon Allen happens to fall to #14, medical concerns will have had a lot to do with it

  38. 38 anon said at 4:46 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Patriots deciding between having lagarreteBlount for min $ or AP at a competitive price. That’s frustrating, hopefully we get a running back.

  39. 39 BobSmith77 said at 6:31 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Taking Belichick’s sloppy seconds. They’ll sign AP and he’ll somehow rebound to have a 800+ yard season with solid production.

  40. 40 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:33 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Rehabbing his chest T-Law not his arm lol

  41. 41 GermanEagle said at 5:44 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Ha. The arm is adjacent to the chest somehow.

  42. 42 A_T_G said at 8:27 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Hopefully. Otherwise the rehab will take longer.

  43. 43 wee2424 said at 6:25 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Pretty funny interview that BGN has with Long. Seems like a real cool dude. Making jokes about playing next to Cox. Long-Cox.

  44. 44 BobSmith77 said at 6:27 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    How is Romo a ‘football icon?’

    He freaking won 2 playoff games in his entire career (2-4) and his most notable career moment was the screwed up snap that led to the Cowboys losing in the playoffs at Seattle in 2007 (21-20).

    I always thought Romo was a little underrated in his career including his regular play being downplayed a bit because of the playoff shortcoming but calling him an ‘icon’ is ridiculous.


  45. 45 Dave said at 7:07 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    He’s an icon because he played for Dallas, which gave him a ton of exposure. His career will be even more revered when Dak pulls a Nick Foles and Tony unretires and suits back up for the Boys in 2018.

  46. 46 Ryan Rambo said at 7:41 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Hell, I’ll drink to that!

  47. 47 wee2424 said at 7:49 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    And the women he dated.

  48. 48 Insomniac said at 7:55 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Most people don’t even know that McNabb had a better career than Romo but ya know that star on his helmet made him more “iconic”.

  49. 49 ChoTime said at 10:38 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    You guys are kee-razy. Here’s why Tony Romo is an icon–he’s one of the best QBs to ever play. Look where he is on the list and consider, he’s had to carry the load on a lot of mediocre teams. One of the reasons he’s had memorable SNAFUs is because he was good enough to carry average teams far beyond they should have gone.


  50. 50 BobSmith77 said at 11:01 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Didn’t realize it was nearly that high. Still stand by it.

    ‘Icon’ to me means one of the handful of great players.

    Brady, yes. Romo, no.

  51. 51 PacificPurl said at 4:15 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    Amurricas Team players are all icons.

  52. 52 meteorologist said at 6:52 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Not a great look for Jamal https://youtu.be/Iab8h6XEq8A?t=232 (3:52)

  53. 53 xmbk said at 7:49 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    Did you mean just that one play, or the overall game? He did miss a couple of tough tackles, but overall he’s around the ball a lot, and can cover. He also takes the finger wag to the next level. I’m sure Schwartz would love him, but he’s not dropping.

  54. 54 meteorologist said at 10:04 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    That one play. Think he missed at least another tackle that game too tho. Might still take him if he fell but wouldn’t trade up for him. Some games it feels like Tre’devious white stands out more than Adams when watching Jamal Adams tape

  55. 55 xmbk said at 11:23 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    I’d be fine with either at 14. But Adams won’t fall.

  56. 56 Dave said at 7:08 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Watching Sergio miss that putt on 18 sort of sums up Romo’s career (unless of course Sergio wins in a playoff).

  57. 57 GermanEagle said at 7:39 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Sergio >>> Tony

  58. 58 SteveH said at 8:45 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    Does this mean we won’t get a new painfully tacky Bob’s Furniture ad for a while?

  59. 59 Insomniac said at 9:07 PM on April 9th, 2017:

    I still have no clue what the Eagles are going to do in the first round but my preferred guys would be

    1. Marshon Lattimore
    2. Solomon Thomas
    3. OJ Howard
    4. Malik Hooker
    5. Jamal Adams
    6. Leonard Fournette
    7. Trade down for their CB of choice (Conley, King, Humphrey)
    8. Mike Williams
    9. Corey Davis

  60. 60 meteorologist said at 7:36 AM on April 10th, 2017:

    Rather stay put and draft a building block (the WRs) than trade down for a lesser CB.. by far

  61. 61 Insomniac said at 2:35 PM on April 10th, 2017:

    The CBs in this class are way better than the WRs IMO. The WR class is really mediocre.

  62. 62 meteorologist said at 6:24 PM on April 10th, 2017:

    The top tier of (3) WRs are better than the 2nd tier of (~10) CBs is what I’m saying

  63. 63 Insomniac said at 6:46 PM on April 10th, 2017:

    Eh I don’t see it that way. I think Conley and Humphrey can be great CBs one day. Davis. Ross and Williams can be good but none of them have the potential of a Julio or OBJ.

  64. 64 meteorologist said at 8:22 PM on April 10th, 2017:

    Can’t wait to see how the Eagles view it