Updated – Visits, Workouts and Meetings

Posted: April 9th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 262 Comments »

Here is the roundup of what we know in terms of visits, workouts and interest.

VISITS TO PHILLY

WR John Ross
WR Corey Davis
WR Mike Williams
WR Shelton Gibson
WR Chris Godwin
RB Leonard Fournette
RB Dalvin Cook
OL Ethan Cooper

DE Ryan Anderson
LB Reuben Foster
S Malik Golden
S Jamal Adams
S/CB Obi Melifonwu
CB Marlon Humphrey
CB Kevin King

CB Gareon Conley … not definite, but some great detective work by BGN reader

WORKOUTS / MEETINGS

WR Chris Godwin – Penn State
WR Fabian Guerra – Fairmont State
WR/RB Curtis Samuel – Ohio State … private workout
RB Aaron Jones – UTEP … private workout
RB Jahad Thomas – Temple
RB Elijah Hood – UNC … Duce Staley ran his Pro Day
RB T.J. Logan – UNC … Duce Staley ran his Pro Day
RB Matt Dayes – NC State … Duce Staley at his Pro day
RB Dalvin Cook – Florida State … private workout
TE Blake Jarwin  – Oklahoma State
TE Michael Roberts – Toledo
TE Adam Shaheen – Ashland
TE Evan Engram – Ole Miss … TE coach at his Pro Day
OT Olakunle Salako – Oklahoma State
OT Antonio Garcia – Troy … Jeff Stoutland at his Pro Day
OL Ethan Cooper – IUP
OL Forrest Lamp – Western Kentucky … Jeff Stoutland ran his Pro Day workout
OL Dan Feeney – Indiana … OL coach at his Pro Day
QB Nathan Peterman – Pitt

DT Elijah Qualls – Washington
DT Ryan Glasgow – Michigan … visit/workout
DT A.J. Wolf – Duke … Eagles scout ran his Pro Day workout
DL Chris Wormley – Michigan … private workout
DE Jordan Willis – Kansas State … DL coach at his Pro Day
DE T.J. Watt – Wisconsin … DL coach at his Pro Day
DE Derek Rivers – Youngstown State …assistant DL coach at his Pro Day
DE Avery Moss – Youngstown State … assistant DL coach at his Pro Day
DE Tarell Basham – Ohio … DL coach at his Pro Day
DE Keionta Davis – Tenn-Chattanooga … DL coach at his Pro Day
DE DeMarcus Walker – Florida State … DL coach helped run his Pro Day workout
LB Brandon Bell – Penn State … has visit, but local kid so not as meaningful
LB Jalen Reeves-Mabin – Tennessee … LB coach at his Pro Day
CB Chidobe Awuzie – Colorado
CB Corn Elder – Miami … DB coach worked him out
CB Damontae Kazee – SDSU … private workout
CB Cam Sutton – Tennessee … DB coach ran his workout

MISC

QB Garrett Fugate – Central Missouri … Showing interest
LB/DE Harvey Langi – BYU … Showing interest per this article
DE Bryan Cox – Florida … Showing interest
RB Christian McCaffrey – Stanford … Showing interest
PK Simon Mathiesen – NW Missouri … Showing interest

Multiple people at Oklahoma State Pro Day

Multiple people at Wisconsin Pro Day

Multiple people at UCLA Pro Day

Multiple people at Florida State Pro Day

Multiple people at Miami Pro Day

Multiple people at Tennessee Pro Day

Multiple people at Penn State Pro Day, but that’s somewhat local

Small School Pro Days (more noteworthy than a scout at Stanford or Florida)

Scout at UNC-Charlotte
Scout at Richmond
Scout at JMU
Scout at Harvard
Scout at Missouri State

*****

I wrote a piece for PE.com on some players who are good draft targets for the Eagles. I focused on guys outside the 1st round.

OFFENSE

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  • John Luck Pickerd

    I say we pick up Forrest Lamp based on name alone.

    • MattE

      “I love Lamp.”

      Brick Tamland

    • Tom Everett

      Was coming here to say exactly this. It’s always heartening to find one is amongst like-minded people 🙂

    • P_P_K

      He could share a locker with JJ Watt.

  • Insomniac

    Chris Godwin doesn’t play to his timed speed (applies to Zay Jones as well). Either that or all of the CBs that matched up against him also run in the 4.4s and 4.3s.

    I would love Feeney in the 2nd round, not sure if Dawkins is worth it at that pick but he would be a solid addition as well.

    • Dave

      He had a QB with an extremely weak arm. I think he always knew he would have to come back for the ball on anything deep and thus never ran full out.

    • D3FB

      Dawkins fringe top 100 I get. Dawkins top 40 is wildness. I’ve seen him in the late first in mocks and it baffles the mind.

      • Insomniac

        Something something good measurables at the combine boosting draft stock.

        • D3FB

          I think he’s ok, but even if you liked him alot I don’t see how you could put him above:
          Cam
          Lamp
          Bolles
          Ramscyk
          Garcia
          Feeney
          Dorian Johnson
          Pocic
          Elflein
          and probably Moton

  • Rellihcs

    I want four corners and 2 running backs out of this draft. Carry 4 RBs this year.

    Draft where the depth is.

    • Fufina

      Think that is a little overkill. 3 CB’s would be a great outcome but just because the position is the deepest in the draft does not mean they will always be BPA.

      As for RB we don’t need 2 new drafted RB’s, and have too many needs else where to really attack that position.

      For me the place where i would like us to spend picks is the DLine with a good group in rounds 1-3, coming out with a pair of DE’s or a DE and a DT would be great, with a couple of CB’s as well.

      • Rellihcs

        Yeah it was more a whim about how i feel. There are just so mant RBs i like though.

  • DrGeniusPhD

    Maybe the Eagles can consider Aaron Hernandez if the verdict is not guilty.

    • GermanEagle

      Dude

      That is not even funny. Have you read the latest prosecution details?! Hernandez is simply evil who doesn’t even merit the term ‘scum’..

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Isn’t he already in jail for being convicted of murder? I don’t think a non guilty verdict in this case means he gets to walk out of jail any time soon. The transcript from all the scumbags in this trail is just mind blowing. Amazing that he was a prominent member of the Patriots while he was running around the city playing Chitty Chitty Bang Bang with bloods n crips smh what an idiot. Like a ghetto Peter Pan who refused to grow the fuck up

        • Sb2bowl

          Yes, he’s serving life already for the murder of Oden Lloyd (sp?). This is just a double murder trial on top of his previous 1st degree murder charge.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            Yeah, this trail is a bigger shit show because he tried to kill his former best friend who has decided to testify and has been sharing all of hernandez heinous secrets. Some of the transcripts from testimony in this trail is just crazy. Details of how Disturbed Hernandez really was

      • ChoTime

        Hernandez is definitely the worst athlete I have ever heard of.

        • Stephen E.

          He’s a murderous thug who happened to play a little football on the side.

    • meteorologist

      Dude is a murderer

      • Sb2bowl

        So you’re saying he would add a “killer” instinct to our Tight Ends? Hell, Ertz might benefit from having such a personality next to him!

        Just don’t invite him over for dinner or a night out on the town.

        • Stephen E.

          Or in your car. Or within the effective range of a handgun.

        • meteorologist

          Oh dear

  • A_T_G

    Philly dot com is reporting “tore a pec tendon” and having surgery today. That is better than tearing the pec, right?

    • Mitchell

      Not necessarily. Tendons have a more poor blood supply than the muscle itself. Blood brings nutrients for tissues to heal, less blood, slower healing.

      • A_T_G

        C’mon doc, give us something. Maybe a couple screws and big fender washers and he is good to go?

    • Ankerstjernen

      As a general rule of thumb with soft tissue injuries, the closer you get to the bone, the worse it is from a recovery standpoint: Muscle torn from muscle is bad but muscle torn from tendon is worse. Tendon torn from tendon is worse than that and tendon torn from bone (!) is even worse than that and a real shit show. Then of course you have ligament damages, but they are sort of a thing by themselves because you generally don’t expect them to heal back at all – a meniscus for instance is just shaved down until the torn part is smoothed out and you live your life like that (until eventually you probably develop arthrisis, depending on your lifestyle and how much they had to remove.)

      Pec tendon sounds bad for sure. No reason for optimism yet.

      • A_T_G

        Well, that was as clear as it was disheartening.

  • Sifter

    By the visits, really seems like the Eagles are setting up to take CBs in round 2, and if some fall, maybe round 3 as well. The guys they’ve worked out: Humphrey, Melifonwu, Conley, Awuzie, Elder and King would all be decent value in that stage of the draft.

  • Steve Smegal

    Tony Pauline’s outfit as the following mock for the Eagles
    Rd 1 – McCaffery
    Rd 2 – Lawson
    Rd 3 – Tankersley (although they haven’t updated for the trade yet so this is off)
    Rd 4- Mack Hollins
    Rd 4 – Marquez White

    This is the darkest timeline

    • Steve Smegal

      By comparison, Ray Diddy’s mock would be just fine with me (although seems a little optimistic:

      Rd 1 – Conley
      Rd 2 – Willis
      Rd 3 – Jourdain Lewis (would prefer a different CB here but whatever)
      Rd 4 – Hunt
      Rd 4 – Godwin
      Rd 5 – Maye
      Rd 6 – Isiata
      Rd 7 – Nickerson, Jr.

      • Rellihcs

        Just a thought, but positions and first names might help.

        • Steve Smegal

          Sorry, Gareon Conley (CB), Jordan Willis (DE), Jourdain Lewis (CB), Kareem Hunt (RB), Chris Godwin (WR), Marcus Maye (S), Isaac Asiata (G), Hardy Nickerson, Jr. (LB)

      • Sb2bowl

        Isiata won’t be there in the 6th- probably going to be gone by our first pick in Round 4.

        • Steve Smegal

          Agreed. Also think the Godwin pick is overly optimistic.

        • Mac

          Need to get Media Mike to take that fool Diddy to mock school.

          • Sb2bowl

            Diddy don’t have diddy on MM in that realm. Lol

  • GermanEagle

    Here’s some interesting and funny mind games (thanks to Jimmy K.):

    Would you trade Jason Peters + Kelce + x (?!) for Richard Sherman?

    • scratcherk

      No thanks. I’m not understanding the Sherman love. Doesnt fit the longterm plan for the Eagles. We’re not a Sherman away from a SB. Dont want to destabilize the line eitehr by giving up two starters.

      • GermanEagle

        Kelce is nothing more than a sweetener in such a deal as I don’t see him on our roster come September anyway. Also it helps freeing up cap space that’s needed to get Sherman.

        I am not saying I would do this deal, but it’s certainly interesting to discuss.

      • eagleyankfan

        JP fits the long term plans?

        • wee2424

          Yes, in that he currently is a good LT that can assist Wentz in his progression. In that light he is important for the long term plans.

          • eagleyankfan

            long term vs. right now – 2 different things. Like last year with all the injuries on the OL and this year (if Peters isn’t around) — 1 tackle will not make or break Wentz…just like all that garbage of ‘omg, if Wentz starts his rookie season, he’ll be ruined for life’….

          • Bert’s Bells

            The long term plan is to develop Wentz. That’s the #1 goal.

            Weakening the OLine flies in the face of that plan.

            Nothing to do with Peters, per se, but the OLine vis a vis the QB.

          • wee2424

            Poor T play has assisted in breaking many QBs. Esspecially young ones.

          • Gian GEAGLE

            The desire to add assets by weakening the protection of our developing young Franchise QB is insanity
            ..
            of course there is the injury risk associated with the need to protect our franchise QB, but the worse we protect Wentz this year, the greater the odds of him developing bad habits.
            ..
            Weakening our OL even just short term, to build up other areas is just crazy talk. I’d rather have guys who can protect our QB, over guys who can catch his passes any day

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Classic fanboy mentality. Same thing that led us to think NNamdi was a good idea. I’d like to try to learn from past mistake, yet people still view stuff like this in terms of video game terms, not at all concerned with important factors like age, scheme fit, will the chemistry fit with new teammates and a young HC who doesn’t have a lot of cache build up?
        .
        Been hearing about this silly Sherman crap for a week. time to put this nonsense to Bed

        • GermanEagle

          It’s still off-season after all.. 😉

          • Gian GEAGLE

            Why stop at video game team building nonsense? Let’s take the next step and create “German Eagle” to be our RB with a 99 rating.

          • GermanEagle

            I certainly wouldn’t mind that.

    • meteorologist

      Sounds great to me. Maybe x = a 2nd round pick. But :

      does Sherman really fit our scheme? Do we run a lot of cover 3? Or will this be Asomugha again where we misuse him?

      Will he be in his prime when we are contenders? Or maybe he makes us contenders right now?!

      • GermanEagle

        I would definitely not throw in a second rounder in such a scenario.

        Peters + Kelce is more than enough.

        • meteorologist

          Well that would be a no brainer lol. Sherman for those 2? run to the podium

    • A_T_G

      If I can then flip Sherman to CLE for their second first round pick, I am in.

      • GermanEagle

        But but but what shall we do with all the newly created cap space?! #1stWorldProblems

    • Dave

      My thought on this now that Shefter has stated this morning that Sherman initiated the trade talk about wanting out of Seattle is that he is trying to get traded to a large TV market for exposure to further his career after football, a la Tony Romo.

    • Mac

      Eh, I still think that once you take that teflon coated Seahawks jersey off Sherman will be an average corner who gets penalized a lot.

      • Rellihcs

        Excellent point. And while obviously the thought of (magically) adding a top-tier CB to the team is great, but a guarantee with Sherman is that he brings a lot of pain the a** sideshow crap, and a big chunk of the cap. Not my cup of tea.

        • D3FB

          I don’t mind the attitude. It’s entertaining and he’s a showman.

          I would be scared shitless of him outside of the cover 3.

          • Rellihcs

            Well there you go – not even worth discussing antics and such, if he’d be scheme ineffective… end of conversation.

            Full disclosure:
            Of course if he ends up coming here, I’ll convince myself to get excited about it….

          • GermanEagle

            Isn’t being ‘scared shitless’ an oxymoron?!

          • A Roy

            Well, technically, since abject fear can cause loss of sphincter control, scared shitless might mean there’s none left to defecate.

        • ChoTime

          I’m not aware his publicity moves ever caused his team any damage?

          • Rellihcs

            Well I believe he’s racked up some penalties for running his mouth/fighting on the field, and he did get into a fight on his own team’s sideline, fighting with a teammate or coach during a game that they won. To me that’s distraction bee ess that adds baggage. Couple that with his heavy cap hit… age, system..etc… and the deep draft at the position… it all adds up

          • D3FB
          • Rellihcs

            Yeah, I got you but I hate both of them. I’d rather not have a player like that on the team (behavior wise). And Sherman’s was more of a distraction. This was more of a on the bench spat, but Sherman’s was more demonstrative and distracting.

            I get that they are great players, but you can be so without being a distracting jerk. I’d prefer to avoid those types.

          • ChoTime

            Granted, but understand that football is an emotional sport, and many players need to whip themselves up.

            We’ve had plenty of well-behaved CBs on the team in the last 10 years. In a way, I think Sconces, the biggest pain of them, might have done the best job.

          • Mac

            Hold up, Asante Samuel is in the mix if you go back 10 years…

          • wee2424

            Wow, its been nearly that long.

      • A_T_G

        More important than Sherman, can the Eagles invest in that teflon coating, instead of the spray adhesive that they currently use?

        • Mac

          They need to swap the damn sprays! They’ve been teflon coating WR gloves and stickum spraying CB jerseys.

          • A Roy

            Deserved upvote.

      • Stephen E.

        Sherman benefits from the entire secondary holding on every play, then sharing the penalties.

        • Mac

          Yep. They’ve come right out and said it as a team.

    • Bert’s Bells

      The Eagles were nearly a .500 team last year with shitty to non-existent corners. At this point, if the offense improves -and the special teams doesn’t lose one of the Dallas games -they could put up a winning record with the same crappy corners.

      Making the O-Line weaker to move the DBs from worst to 3rd from worst is a poor way to construct the roster.

      • A Roy

        Add fumble vs Det and missed 2 pt vs BAL and they could’ve been 10-6 with those crappy DBs. O-line won’t be weaker without Kelce, just different. Of course, if they get the same # injuries as last year, I retract that statement.

        • Bert’s Bells

          Yup. They were 7-9 team, for sure, but didn’t get many bounces their way. Unlike the NFC East winners who seemed to have all the luck.

          I think Kelce is a serviceable starter, but yeah, they (probably) won’t miss out if they move on.

          Messing with the tackles, though. That’s the courting trouble.

          • A Roy

            Agree for now. Interested to see if anyone of the practice squad is now better than what’s his name? Mai Tai? or Tobin

    • Gian GEAGLE

      At least it’s not bad as some people like Mike Misinelli who was calling fans stupid because they didn’t want to trade #14 for Sherman. His rational was that “because there is no consensus for the Eagles at #14, we might as well trade it for a 29yr old known commodity”… Hard to get any dumber or more Ignorant than that.

    • Nick C

      There are a lot of moving parts in this for me:
      JP has one or two years left period; Sherman maybe 1-2 good, then declining.
      Contracts are in a similar tier
      Progression for Wentz vs. Strengthening our weakest roster spot
      Kelce is getting traded most likely for peanuts (I think he is worth more than that given his modest contract)
      Last, but most importantly, compensation: I don’t see the Seahawks doing Peters+Kelce. It would probably involve the first round pick swap as well.

      Bottom line, I would do Peters+Kelce, but I don’t think I would also do the pick swap unless they throw in something. It is hesitant for me, but Kelce’s already gone. So I’m not balking on him. The deciding factor for me is that I do not see Peters making it completely through another 16 game season. I didn’t see it last year and I was proved wrong. The chronic back problems and the previous leg injuries lead me to that conclusion. Sherman has been healthy his whole career. Even if he isn’t a top-tier corner anymore (He probably still is), he is a willing tackler and will provide our corners with some much needed direction. I would still be on the BPA direction and want to add multiple corners in the draft, but the “staying healthy” angle is what does it for me. Also I cannot compare Sherman to Nnamdi or Maxwell. Like I said, he is a willing tackler and both of those guys were, excuse me for lack of a better term, puss***.

      • GermanEagle

        That sums it up pretty well, mate.

      • PacificPurl

        Sherman had an undisclosed injury last year. Why his play dropped off a bit.

    • Stephen E.

      NOOOOOOO

  • GermanEagle

    #Eagles agree to terms with QB Matt McGloin on a one-year contract.

    The Eagles really seem to be going down hard the compensatory picks in 2″19 road. Lol…

    • A Roy

      GTFOH, he’s terrible.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        As opposed to all the great #3 QBs league wide?

        • Mac

          Hahaha… well played.

        • A Roy

          Unfortunately, he will cost more than a UDFA, even if he’s at the vet min.

          • Bert’s Bells

            How many UDFA can take meaningful reps in camp?

            Serious question. I suppose there’s a reason why vets take these jobs in camp and not cheaper, younger players.

          • A Roy

            And his lack of accuracy will help the receiving corps learn how to adjust and catch poorly thrown balls, too. I guess there is a positive here.

          • Bert’s Bells

            You’re right, they should have signed Joe Montana, Jr. out of Never Heard Of It State or any number of other pro-grade UDFA lining up for Canton.

          • A Roy

            I could roll out Romo…or “Brady was a 6th round pick”, but the exceptions prove the rule. It’s just, we have limited resources, McGloin costs more than he’ll be worth. Unless they think they can get a pick when he signs with someone else next year.

          • D3FB

            Vets take the jobs because if Wentz or Foles go down in preseason, he probably would be the backup over a late round pick or UDFA.

            Or if he gets cut and then Wentz gets hurt you have a guy on the street who knows the playbook and has experience playing in the NFL and wasn’t facing East Southern Tech A&M Bible College a year ago.

          • A_T_G

            The ESTAMBC Thumpers are underrated.

          • D3FB

            Come on, everybody knows the South Northern Devry International Tech Satanist are going to kick their ass!

          • A_T_G

            The sleeper to watch is the Southern Appilachain Dentistry Institute for Stripping, Teasing, Insinuation & Cavities. The SADISTIC Nurses are tough, have over half of their teeth, and their touchdown celebrations are excellent.

          • Sb2bowl

            How do I get a scholarship to attend?

          • A_T_G

            Send them your SATs, tooth count, and a video of you on a pole.

          • Mac

            Scholarships are rare, but they have some creative financing options.

          • Sb2bowl

            1. They’ll have to accept me when they see my combined score of 670.

            2. Do dentures count? Top plate, bottom plate, or both?

            3. I had to re-read your list. I thought it said “a video of your pole”– they would be underwhelmed at best.

          • Sb2bowl

            So you’re saying their opponents don’t have a “prayer”?

          • A Roy

            Upvote for Bible Thumpers.

          • A Roy

            If we go to FOles for more than a couple games, seasons over. If McGoin sees the field, other than pre-season, season’s over. I just wouldn’t waste the other half mil for an inadequate backup who won’t be active on game day.

          • D3FB

            It’s 150k difference between McGloin and a rookie UDFA if he makes the team (which he won’t unless Wentz or Foles are hurt). That’s not enough money to fret over.

            He’s basically here to eat camp reps and make sure you have a guy on the street who knows the playbook.

            For now he cost nothing. On the small chance he plays instead of Alex Torgerson or Cooper Rush it’s not enough money to care.

          • D3FB

            $150k more than an undrafted rookie IF he makes the roster.

          • A Roy

            Well, at that amount, I agree. My assumption was that his salary would be somewhere around $900k and with our cap situation, it seemed iffy.

          • D3FB

            Vets on minimum only count against the cap as if they have two years of service. So he would cost more in cash, but not cap.

          • A Roy

            I see. Thanks. No wonder Howie used to get big bucks just for cap management. Sounds as arcane as the NCAA rules.

        • Sb2bowl

          Someone should let the football team in Washington know that we now have the best #3 QB in the league.

          As a fellow North Eastern PA resident, I can tell you that the greater Scranton area is excited to have the soulless ginger back on the East Coast.

      • Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard

        Camp body/somebody with a pulse in case Wentz and Foles are hit by trucks.

  • Gian GEAGLE

    With limited cap resources, I really like the Eagles offseason plan. We already had a lot of Players whos contract expires after the season, and we added free Agents who’s contracts can also be viewed as one year trail period.
    ..
    Now we get to spend the year seeing which of all our expiring contracts will seperate themselves from the rest of the pack with their play, work ethic, and fitting in as part of a strong locker room culture. All those Eagles would were going to be playing on expiring deals will now have to also compete with free agents that we brought in who will also be fighting to try and earn a lucrative extension.

    If we have all these expiring contracts, I assume we won’t be adding many free agents next year because we will have to spend money on keeping the best of our expiring contracts like hopefully Alshon, Jernigan, jordan Mathews. Spend our Cap space on our own guys many of which are on a prove it deal, amd simce we probably won’t be signing other teams free agents, we should be showered with compensatory picks for all the expiring contracts we don’t retain.
    ..
    HOWIE deserves a lot of credit, but We probably also need to acknowledge that a lot of this strategy with a bigger focus on exploiting the compensatory pick system is new for the Eagles and comes straight from the Ozzie Newsome blueprint, so if this works, clearly Joe Douglas will deserve some credit for bringing Ozzies philosophy to philly, but we also have to respect HOWIE from evolving enough to delegate to an outsider like Joe Douglas. Looks like Roseman has grown and matured into this job and is ready to be less power hungry and better collaborate with others. Which is smart of Him because he is running out of Chamces and will have to produce soon and philly won’t care if he fails with his own strategy, or if he fails because he empowered Joe Douglas strategy. It’s time for HOWIE to produce and philly won’t care who’s strategy he uses. At this stage HOWIE is only going to be graded on “Pass or Fail”. Time for results

    • Ark87

      There are plenty of pro’s and plenty of cons to this approach. The biggest take away for me is that the eagles aren’t committed to pretty much anything (but Wentz) past this season. Seems like a make or break year for the Pederson regime. They are bending over backwards to give him a competitive team to prove himself with this year. But I think they wash their hands clean if it doesn’t work out.

      • MattE

        I think with Pederson there may be “degrees of failure”, in all honesty I would like to give him 2 years from this point to see what can be done with this team, unless of course we put on a top-5 draft pick campaign next year.

    • Fufina

      I am broadly happy with free agency, although i would have rather seen the $5m lavished on Torrey Smith given to a CB who we could trust to be a solid starter this year. The Chase Daniel situation was weird – i would have told his agent to go find a trade with the Eagles asking for nothing real in return when he asked for his release.. hate paying guaranteed $$ to players not on the roster. Having said all that i love me some Foles (give him a clean pocket and he is a quality QB).

      Still need to have a great draft, this team could be sunk if they don’t find multiple answers at CB in the draft, and need better pass rush production from the DE spot (outside of Graham ofc) if this team is going to go anywhere any time soon. With our cap and contract situations not going to allow significant free agent solutions next year we need to draft well.

      • Gian GEAGLE

        No matter what we accomplished in free agency, the Only way to truly become the contender we aspire to be is to pull off at least two quality drafts in a row.
        .
        It’s great when we get a stud like jordan Hicks out of the 3rd round, but we really need to hit on our first two picka in the next two drafts and make sure we add some future premier Talent to the roster. I think we have a nice amount of quality Startes in place, but we need to really take advantage of pickimg in the top 14 and come away with a futire pro bowler

  • A_T_G
    • Rellihcs

      Isn’t he like 200 years old? And looking for $?

      • Tumtum

        I looked it up. Surprisingly only 30.

        • Rellihcs

          Wow, i stand corrected

        • truehaynes

          How is this even possible

          • Tumtum

            He was 13 when he was drafted.

      • GermanEagle

        210 to be exact. In dog years..

        • Rellihcs

          So you’re saying he has “that dog” in him…hmm…Can he learn new tricks?

          • GermanEagle

            He must speak to Cox!

    • BlindChow

      I’d take him for vet minimum plus “not likely to be earned” incentives!

      • Tumtum

        and should be easy since he just signed last year. Would imagine we could get the Bears to mostly pay for the whole thing.

      • RC5000

        How’s he any different than Leodis? Was it just a knee issue that screwed him up last year? They’d have to check his knee out.

        • GermanEagle

          his name.

          • RC5000

            How does Tracy Porter fit with Long Cox?

        • A_T_G

          If he is exactly like Ledodis, it will take me four games to go through the grieving process before I accept he sucks. Then I only need to get through 3/4 of a season hating our CB.

      • Sb2bowl

        $3m bonus for 47 interceptions?

    • Tumtum

      I’m game.

  • DrGeniusPhD

    Can the Eagles sue Bob’s Furniture to recoup some of Beau Allen’s salary?

  • Nick C

    Jenkins on NFL Live.

  • John Z
    • scratcherk

      Is Conner an every down back?

      • Rellihcs

        Yes

      • John Z

        Possibly, but more of a compliment to Smallwood. Whereas Smallwood has the quick moves, etc, Conner tends to lower his shoulder and run over people.

      • D3FB

        Conner is kind of a non glass man version of 2016 Ryan Mathews

        • ChoTime

          Ryan Mathews sometimes is one of the best backs in the NFL and sometimes one of the worst.

          • D3FB

            I mean it in the sense of he’ll be a 4-4.2 ypc back, who is capable of doing everything but lacks a certain dynamism.

            He’s got the size and power to get you a yard on third and one, but is also generally athletic enough to run the full compliment of rushing plays.

            He’s a solid receiving threat (probably a bit better hands than Mathews) but you aren’t going to go split him out as a mismatch.

            He’s gonna move the chains. He’ll keep you in 2nd & 5.

            The difference between the weeks where he has 70 yards and 130 yards is going to be one 30 yarder and a couple of broken tackles that turn into 10 yard gains. He’s not going to house plays.

            He would be the offenses metronome. He ensures running game effective competency.

          • ChoTime

            Ryan Matthews with the Eagles 4.6 YPC, career 4.4 🙂

            You’re right about the limited take it to the house ability.

            I would say he’s hugely underrated except those back-breaking fumbles.

            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MathRy00.htm

      • Gian GEAGLE

        Don’t think we really need to worry if a kid is an every down back in today’s NF! Especially when picking outside the top 100. The eagles seems intent on getting smallwood and sproles involved in the weekly game plan. And im the Westcoast offense, even if our starter is a two down back they will always make sure to have a good pass catching 3rd down back on the roster.
        ..
        For me, the question “Is so and so an every down down back” is more important when it comes to investing a high draft pick in a RB like Leonard Fournett
        ..
        If the Eagles wait TIL later in the draft to go RB, I’d be thrilled just to get a quality starting caliber two down back.

  • A_T_G
    • GermanEagle

      I remember seeing this vicious hit by Sheldon Brown live. I must have screamed so loud that my neighbours woke..

      • DrGeniusPhD

        The aftermath of the hit is great too… Bush tries to get up, can’t stay up, falls back to his knees and starts crawling like an infant.

        • ChoTime

          Those poor bastids probably lost 3% of their brain cells that day.

          • Mac

            Would you trade in 3% of your brain cells for $150,000 (before tax, obviously)?

          • A_T_G

            Can I pick which 3%? I know a lot of useless stuff.

          • Sean Stott

            Not if it takes me out of the ‘delicate genius’ bracket.

          • ChoTime

            Depends which ones.

            I’m really not sure, from where I’m sitting, if I would play NFL if I had been one of those blessed with the talent. It’s a pretty spectacular profession, but it sure takes a toll.

          • Mac

            Yeah, for me… no amount of fame, glory, or money would be worth voluntarily signing up for brain damage. Easily the worst aspect of the game.

        • P_P_K

          It also made the cover of Sports Illustrated.

    • Insomniac
  • RTP210

    McCaffrey is the only high-end RB we haven’t hosted yet.

    • Sean Stott

      My guys are telling me he is a lock to go to the Eagles at 14 if he’s still on the board. They’re sold on him already.

      • scratcherk

        define “my guys”

        • GermanEagle

          The wise guys.

        • Rellihcs

          Large ovalesque twins who hang out near vas deferens

        • Sean Stott

          I know people who work at Novacare

          • A_T_G

            Well, then you shouldn’t be so hard on Mike Mayock. He is trying to figure out these guys on his own. He doesn’t have guys on the inside like you do.

          • Sean Stott

            XD

        • Bert’s Bells

          I call them “LL” (Low Left) and “HR” (High Right).

      • laeagle

        If that ends up not being true, I fully expect you to start hijacking threads to mercilessly mock your guys at Novacare. Doesn’t count unless you post at least 50 times.

        • D3FB

          10k words a pop

    • A_T_G

      Smokescreen, obviously.

      • ACViking

        Or maybe —

        Double smokescreen?

        The Eagles aren’t interested . . .

        but want teams to think by looking uninterested, they are interested . . .

        so someone will jump the Birds to get McC, pushing down the player in whom the Eagles really are interested.

        • RC5000

          I don’t buy the Eagles dislike McCaffrey so they would want him to drop like Shady and Westy did…

        • MattE

          Howie is both a very good and very bad poker player

  • Brozer8

    Hi pals ! I do the Eagles write-ups/selections over at Drafttek.com

    Just an FYI for our mock…we don’t have ONE guy doing the whole mock…each team has a representative, so we have a genuine simulated draft every week…so I can only choose players for the EAgles that weren’t picked by the teams in front of me (basically, like the real draft).

    Got a new DraftTek Eagles’ mock coming out Wednesday morning…..

    Once again was left with the decision at 14 to go with either of the 2 elite receivers, or Marlon Humphery, or Dalvin Cook….since more attractive options like Reuben Foster, Thomas, or Lattimore were already off the board.

    I went with Mike Williams again, sticking with the BPA philosophy…although I like Davis just as well.

    Got my boy Tre’Davious White in the 2nd…..and one of my favorite RBs Kareem Hunt later on in the 4th.

    Come check us out !

    Broz

    • aron

      how bout you never come on here again, leave us alone, I own you

      • Brozer8

        How about you go suck an egg (as apposed to your usual oral fixation)

        • Brozer8

          p.s. Did you like my mock picks ?

    • GENETiC-FREAK

      Brooooz! Hey man ive seen you always going with Hunt. If hes always there when you pick dont you think thats a sign? Thats not BPA sounds like more of your boy type of pick.

      • Brozer8

        YO ! The BPA and the MBT (My Boy Theory) aren’t mutually exclusive…

        I doubt Hunt makes it to the 4th…but if he did, it would be a great fit. He fumbled like ONCE in his entire college career, or some crazy stat. Great receiver too. Not great top end speed, but great lateral movement, which is where RB’s make their money.

        Also…don’t forget….THE GREAT MULCH 10 CONTESSS starts 1 week before the draft…10 names ! Don’t forget to post ur entry !!!!!

    • nopain23

      Really like white. Would be ecstatic if we could get him in the second. Definitely would take williams over Humphrey and cook.

      Hunt in the 4th would be a steal.
      If the board were to fall they way you guys set it up id prefer the Eagles trade back if possible and pick up an extra third.

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  • Dave

    Yet another reminder of how fortunate we were last year to move up and get Wentz.

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/851775902312693760

    • P_P_K

      This time last year, I agreed with Jaws. This time this year, I’d still thinking the verdict isn’t in, not yet. Carson showed huge potential and I hope he’ll prove to be the real thing, but it’s too early to say he is definitely a franchise qb. Maybe this time next year…

      • bill

        That can all be true, but it doesn’t change the fact that I’m more comfortable with rolling the dice with Wentz than any of the QBs who are available this year. By a fairly large margin, too.

        • A_T_G

          This, 100% There are no guarantees in the draft, but Wentz has far better odds than the guys this year.

        • P_P_K

          I’m right with you. I’m just making the point, as you say, that Carson is still a role of the dice. I’m willing to put money down that he’s a 7, but not my whole bankrole. Drafting a franchise qb is always going to be a high-stakes gamble.

          • FairOaks

            Sure. But hoping to find one in later rounds is even more of a gamble, and trying to win without a franchise QB is a higher gamble still.

            To your point, the Rams gambled the same way (if not more) and their results don’t look nearly as good so far. On the other hand, the Browns gambled the other way, and that doesn’t look too attractive either. They may still be trying for the Garappolo / Cassel approach.

          • P_P_K

            Your point is well made. Especially because I was hoping the Eagles would take Goff, not Wentz. Sometimes it’s really cool to be wrong.

  • Dave

    This is how I feel sometimes when I’m reading the comments section here…

    https://twitter.com/cranekicker/status/851806480227594246

    • Bert’s Bells

      How come “Eagles” aren’t on that list?

      • A_T_G

        Too real, man.

        Too real.

        • Bert’s Bells

          But, for real, where’s “The Eagles”?

  • A_T_G

    Dion Jordan is a Seahawk.

    • ACViking

      Hearts breaking in G-Eagle land.

      Two whole seasons of comments wasted explaining — no, declaring — that Chip Kelly would bring home to Phila his favorite Duck defender.

      • Bert’s Bells

        You joke, but I mortgaged my farm and put it all up at Ladbrokes when he said “STone culled lock. BOOK EIT!!!” two years ago. I’ve been posting from inside an emptied out pickle barrel ever since.

        • ACViking

          LMFAO!!!!

  • A_T_G

    A quick, fun read from Jimmy on a slow news day. It is worth it.

    http://www.phillyvoice.com/lesean-mccoy-calls-kiko-alonso-bum-instagram/

    • BobSmith77

      McCoy was a very good/great player here on the field but I was always surprised he didn’t get more flak for his on-field behavior and comments.

      • iceberg584

        Probably because “McCoy was a very good/great player here on the field”

        • BobSmith77

          Jackson was too yet I always felt he got more considerably more flak and general opinion seemed to really support releasing him in part due to it including on here at the time.

          • Rellihcs

            Which one consistently took off plays?

    • Mac

      Jar Jar Binks vs Groot #twitterfeud

      • A_T_G

        That is the perfect analogy.

      • peteike

        I hope thats not real. Groot wouldnt lower his standards like that

  • BobSmith77

    Any idea on why or how they selected these smaller schools to only send a single scout?

    Do they have specific scouts assigned to cover second-tier/third-tier conferences in DI or counter DII?

    • D3FB

      Scouts are assigned by region. For D3 schools they’ll typically just know one or two coaches per confrence and put a call in during the fall on whether there is anybody in the conference worth poking around for. The D2 and FCS schools they’ll typically show their face on campus once a year or so, even if briefly.

      So say a scout has the Northeast region. That’s probably PA, NJ, NY, and New England. So he’ll spend the bulk of his time at the Penn State, Pitt, Rutgers, BC, Syracuse, Temple etc. The CAA schools usually produce at least one or two UDFAs so they’ll usually get a day trip.

      But the smaller schools you may do a couple in a day. You probably do West Chester in the morning, then go check out Penn in the afternoon. Lehigh and Lafayette you can do the same day. Bloomsberg and Bucknell are logical to do together.

      So the scout will know who he has in his region by the time the spring rolls around. He’ll know if a school has anyone of merit worth checking out. Usually it will fall on him to make it to the pro day but if several schools have pro days on the same day it can be one of the pro scouts serving as a cross checker or another regional scout who doesn’t have anything on his docket that day.

  • Gian GEAGLE

    Cowherd pushing this crazy theory I haven’t heard before about how Pass Defense is over rated because the only playoff team who had a top NFl defense was Houston, and Terrible teams like the Jags had top rated pass defenses. Even if you argue that the rules make it impossible to really shut down passing games, hard to tell an Eagle fan that pass defense is over rated after we spent the past few years Getting torched on 3rd down failing to get off the field even in 3rd and long situations.
    ..
    Hard to tell a FANBASE that hasn’t had elite cormers or elite edge pass rush terrors in years that Pass defense is grossly over rated.
    ..
    Isn’t Cowherd well established enough to not have to resort to crazy nonsensical hot takes?

    • ChoTime

      There’s being overrated, and there’s having the worst CBs in the league.

    • wee2424

      Stupid. The argument can easily be made that a big part of why the Texans even got to the playoffs was due to their secondary.

      • BobSmith77

        Cowherd has become more like Bayliss. Says outlandish things to stay in the limelight, elicit reaction, and drive ratings.

        I doubt he actually believes a lot of what he says on air.

        • Will Ft. Daft Punk

          Isnt that how things are done at Fox?

    • Rellihcs

      Here’s a tip – don’t listen to anything on ESPN ever.

      (Read McManus if you want… but otherwise…)

    • xmbk

      Stats are almost all overrated in football. Limited sample sizes, amount of time with the lead, speed of the offense. It has to be taken big picture.

    • EagleOne1983

      I lost all respect for Cowherd when he was raving about Kapernick as the next great QB in the NFL. I knew Kap would wash out in a few years and the Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady’s would still rule the roost.

    • meteorologist

      Just look at the Patriots stocking up on corners. Gilmore, Butler, sniffing around Sherman…

  • ACViking

    Re: The Continuing Story of Bungalow Tony Romo

    When will the media’s daily update on this non-story end?

    Can’t think of another QB — even Peyton Manning — whose retirement generated this much daily ink?

    Message to media —

    Please stop!!! He’s just a freakin’ announcer.

    And nothing he says will impact whether people watch the game he’s calling.
    If the game’s close, yay for ratings.
    If not, boo for ratings.

    No one’s continuing to watch to hear Tony Romo.

    Anyone think the media gives this much love to Cam Newton or Donovan McNabb if they moved directly from an injury-impinged last-3 years in the NFL to a CBS announcing job?

    • Bert’s Bells

      McNabb had a better career than Romo (who I respect) and clearly did not generate the same buzz when he hung it up.

    • Ark87

      Seems like a Dallas thing. Any QB with a playoff record like his fades away with relatively little national fanfare.

    • Dave

      Tony comes across as a very likable guy. The fact that he was on the Cowboys for 13 years absolutely helped with his Q-score.

      Cam has been seen at times to be unlikable and arrogant. It’s hard for me to get the picture of him not reaching for that fumble in the Superbowl out of my mind or the fact that his dad asked for a six-figure payment for his son’s letter of intent.

      Donny was passive-aggressive, which at times made him unbearable to like. The fact that Andy gave up on him was very telling IMO.

      • Ark87

        McNabb’s post-Philly career did enough damage to any legacy he might have had to celebrate at retirement.

        Cam is a funny athlete to talk about, especially living in NC. The divide is mostly black/white unfortunately. Is he arrogant, or does he have swagger (confident). Did he not want it enough to get that fumble while simultaneously being so competitive he can be a bad loser? Do you agree with “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser”? Is he not tough enough to go after that fumble? Or is he one of the toughest players in the league, playing through a flurry of injuries every week, breaking his back in a car accident and finishing the season at career high levels?

        Sadly, in NC at least, where you stand on those questions largely comes down to skin color.

        For my part, obviously reality is not a binary, he’s a bit of all those things, but generally I like Cam. He’s the best kind of force of Nature in Charlotte. The man is a blessing to the community he serves. He’s not your grandpa’s QB, so he’s going to be a polarizing figure. Which if you don’t play for the Cowboys, won’t be celebrated.

        • daveH

          Not necessarily Sikh color. . .. Ben Rothlesberger gets same treatment by refs as Cam
          Cam shud be the face of the NFL .. but why not? ?? It’s not race

          • Ark87

            I mean of the viewer’s skin color tends to align well with which narrative you give Cam where I live. Ben Roethlisberger is an absolutely perfect example to my point (ton of Steelers fans around these parts too). Dude is shady as F, sexual assault accusations and such. The dude comes to camp saying he is completely innocent but he shouldn’t put himself in that situation, and by the way he found Jesus so…he’s fine. Somehow he gets to play out his career with nearly no scrutiny whatsoever

          • daveH

            My major problem is with techmology .. i typed skin .. as in skin color. ..not Sikh as in the cab drivers
            My auto correct blows. My voice to text techmology is worse than my dexterity.

      • daveH

        With 6 minutes left in Csm’s Super Bowl loss he was crying on the sideline. .the video of him pushing teammates away shud kill marketing for him for life .. with 6 min left in super Bowl last year. .. Brady was building his team up up UP to keep fighting. .fighting for any scrap .. how d it ends up, we all know. ..

    • A Roy

      Technically, he’s a broken down ex ballplayer who never won more than a single playoff gane in any season and was marginally over .500. But he’s pretty and he always had pretty dates, so there’s that.

  • ACViking

    Passing observation as the draft gets closer . . .

    The NFL has at least 8 too many teams.

    Not only would the quality of play improve (generally speaking).

    But the wait between picks wouldn’t be so long that you could take your family to sit-down dinner between picks.

    • A_T_G

      Howie truly tries to take the fan experience into account, or at least he used to.

      For the 10 picks before ours I would be on the edge of my seat, anticipating a trade up. Then we get to our pick and Howie trades down.

      Sure, you don’t have a player to show for it, but you get to go through the whole process again a few picks later. Non stop fun.

      • Dave

        You have to pay attention to the whole draft with Howie in charge.

    • bill

      Ha. The NHL has them beat! There are least 12 too many teams. And they’re going to add another one, too! In the middle of a freaking desert, of all places. “Let’s play a sport on frozen water in the middle of a desert!” = “Brilliant!”

      • CrackSammich

        They set the divisions up for a 32 team league. Expect another Western team in the near future. Portland or Seattle already have stadiums.

    • daveH

      And 2 too many games. .. but won’t stop the Commish & owners from adding and SQUEEZING the fans and the TV

    • Brozer8

      IDK about 8…..but I’d def kick Jacksonville, Carolina, Indianapolis, and Tennessee and the Texans out of the league.

      I’d take the Titans, rename them the Oilers, and move them back to Houston.
      I’d end the Ravens franchise, and move the Colts from Indy back to Baltimore.
      The Chargers back in SanDiego, the Rams stay in LA….and Oakland can stay in Oakland or move to LasVegas.
      The Browns have to leave, but the Ravens would move back to Cleveland, and become the Browns again.

      • Brozer8

        …wait,……I think I just made 47 teams.

      • PacificPurl

        I miss the 70s too.

    • ChoTime

      Sometimes I feel any more teams than the number of elite franchise QBs is too much, in this ridiculously unbalanced passing league.

  • Sb2bowl

    Pat Elflein from Ohio State– Thoughts and opinions?

    I know we have Kelce (for now) and Isaac waiting in the wings- but if he’s there in the Fourth Round on our second pick, would he be worth it? Not only could we move Isaac to guard, it would give us a young duo inside without investing too much draft capital into the interior (plus our veteran assets).

    I’m not an OL guru, but adding talent at any and every position seems like a good idea.

    • Insomniac

      I think it would be a good pick at that pick but I think Seumalo is the future at center.

      • Fufina

        Think he can be a quality guard and that is worth more than a center generally in the NFL. Think we have enough depth in the interior OL that we will not spend draft picks there unless the player is obviously BPA. Having said that Elflein would be great value in the 4th.

        All this changes if they find someone willing to give a pick for Kelce. Getting a 5th for him and drafting Elflein with a 4th would be a very savvy good bit of business imho.

        • Insomniac

          I would be fine with him at either position. Although I doubt Elflein lasts that long and Kelce gets traded for a 5th.

      • Sb2bowl

        I think he is as well, hence the question and debate. Adding talent, no matter where is paramount; but we also have to consider available and limited resources.

    • Mac

      I’d be totally psyched. I don’t see him lasting past rd 3.

    • D3FB

      Elflein 95% gone before our pick in the third

      • Sb2bowl

        Agreed, and I think he will be good. But Centers aren’t highly valued during the draft and as often as I’ve run simulations- he’s been the one consistently to be under drafted.

        Now we all know that they are just simulations, but it’s worth the question.

        • D3FB

          He’s good. I think his floor is Wiz.

          If he’s there in the fourth then sure take him. But I think it’s more likely he gets taken as early as the mid second round.

          He’s also a bit of a luxury pick. He’s pretty similar to Sem in that he’s G/C versatile, but you probably maximize him at C. Both are polished, experienced high IQ guys, but like Sem his ceiling is more of above average starter. If we needed someone who was plug and play he’d be very attractive which is why I just don’t see him making it to pick 99.

          • Sb2bowl

            I appreciate the feedback

  • Gian GEAGLE

    “NFL Scout”: “Leonard Fournette is better than Zeke”
    ..
    I dare you to attach your name to that quote. Silly Season is almost over

    • Insomniac

      Leonard Fournette is better than Zeke as a runner when he gets to the second level – wannabe armchair GM Insomniac

    • Mac

      Yawn, it’s running back. Who cares?

    • A_T_G

      Either Mike Mayock or Sean Stott. I get those two confused.

  • Tdoteaglefan

    Malcolm jenkins on NFL network right now…

    • aron

      he’s a thug

  • GermanEagle

    RIP Tom Modrak.

    • daveH

      K Pasa? ? ? A google search of Tim Modrsk returns no news

      • scratcherk

        He passed away today

      • Dave

        He was the GM when McNabb was picked in 99. He was under hospice care and passed away today.

        • daveH

          Didn’t know that. TY. Thought he was valuable to the Eagles. Respect.

      • GermanEagle

        I saw a tweet of McCartney yesterday. I hope it wasn’t fake news..

        • daveH

          The new building next to me will be 20 stories before i ever find out

  • Dave

    Lol, the Browns didn’t think Wentz would be a top 20 QB but now believe Trubisky is…

    “Even though you have a desperate need for one, you have to resist the temptation of taking that guy just because you have a need if you don’t believe he’s one of those 20 guys at the end of the day. I think that’s the hardest part, just maintaining your discipline because you have the need. That’s what we did this year.”

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/09/the_browns_didnt_think_carson.html

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/851970308458164224

    • Insomniac

      That would shake up the draft so hard and that’ll be good for us. Please take Trubisky or Watson first Browns.

    • BlindChow

      I think they’re just trying to con someone into trading up into that spot. I’ll believe it when it happens.