Flip

Posted: June 22nd, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 132 Comments »

The future of the Eagles franchise is young QB Carson Wentz. The man who is tasked with coaching Wentz, and who has a big say in the how things go for the Eagles, is QB coach John DeFilippo. DeFilippo recently met with the media. PE.com posted 15 minutes of the interview session and it’s worth watching. Flip doesn’t say anything groundbreaking, but he gives you an idea of what he and Wentz are working on and how things are going.

You may wonder exactly what a QB coach teaches his guys. They have a lot of ground to cover. If you read Chris Brown’s first book (The Essential Smart Football), he tells the story of how QB guru and Duke head coach David Cutcliffe starts out by teaching his pupils about defense. Cutcliffe teaches them about the pass rush, zone blitzes, coverages and anything else that will help them understand what the guys on the other side of the line of scrimmage are doing.

Some coaches obsess on fundamentals. How do you grip the ball? What is your elbow level? Are your feet split far enough apart? Too much? All coaches teach this stuff, but to some those details are crucial.

Some coaches really focus on protection. There are so many different rush packages and blitz packages these days that a QB isn’t going to have success if he can’t adjust to what he sees by calling the right protection. That could be having the line slide right or left. Or maybe adjusting and having the RB stay in to pass protect. QBs and offenses have different ways of adjusting to the crazy looks defenses throw at them. The best QB in the world is no good if he doesn’t have time to get the ball to his weapons. Much of that is on the line to block well, but the QB must also be able to make pre-snap adjustments to give his players the best chance to protect him.

I know the first thing Jon Gruden did when he came to Philly was to watch all of Randall Cunningham’s sacks from the 1994 season. Gruden felt Cunningham took too many sacks. Those are drive killers, not to mention you don’t want the QB getting hit that much. Gruden felt there were plays where Cunningham could have run, dumped the ball off or just thrown it away. After all, 3rd and 10 is better than 3rd and 16. Cunningham was a terrible QB student and he and Gruden never hit it off.

DeFilippo and Wentz are lucky. DeFilippo has a player who wants to succeed and is willing to learn. Wentz is a hard worker who will embrace tough coaching. Wentz is lucky to have a coach who has had success with other young QBs. DeFilippo knows what he is doing. He understands football, but is also a good communicator and good motivator. That is critical.

Wentz has terrific physical ability. He needs DeFilippo to help him take advantage of that potential by developing his QB skills. The most important ability for a QB is being able to process information quickly and correctly. This starts with prep work before you even get to a game. The QB must know the play, inside-out. That means studying the play book over and over and over. He must be able to look at the defense and know what they are doing. That means being relentless with tape study.

If a QB has done all of this prep work, what happens after the snap will be “easier” to understand. Obviously the three to four seconds of the average play is incredibly complicated so there’s usually nothing easy about it, but you have an advantage if what you’re seeing is what you expected based on all the work you did before the game. That allows you to think less and react more naturally.

DeFilippo told Wentz one of his goals this year was to know “where the bones are buried on every play”. That’s a very odd phrase for the situation, but it works. Wentz is supposed to know who should be open on a play based on what the defense is doing. Different receivers will be open vs Cover 2 than Cover 3. Wentz has to know this for every play against every anticipated defensive coverage or look.

I think part of what makes DeFilippo so good with young QBs is that he gives them clear, tangible goals. He had Wentz work on specific issues with his mechanics. DeFilippo didn’t go into great detail about that with the media, but he had a clear plan for Wentz.

Coaching can make a real difference, even with veteran QBs. Rodney Peete was the backup QB to begin 1995. He ended up starting 12 games. He was a mediocre player, but a terrific leader and helped that team get to the divisional round of the playoffs. The next year Peete was the starter and got a ton of attention from Jon Gruden and the staff. Peete looked like a completely different player. I remember him throwing a quick slant in the opener at Washington and going “That was actually a good throw. Crazy.” Injuries limited him to just five starts, but you could see the impact of the coaching.

One of the focal points for DeFilippo is consistency. The Eagles want their QBs to be consistent in terms of emotion, work ethic, focus, and of course, performance. They don’t want highs and lows. Those will happen, but the goal is to try to avoid them.

DeFilippo and the staff teach the QBs to keep an even keel emotionally. Don’t get too high when things are good and don’t get too low when things go wrong. Emotions can affect your performance. They preach the importance of body language. QBs live under a microscope. Everything that is said or done is evaluated by fans, the media and even teammates. Don’t feed the beast. Stay cool, good or bad. You are the team leader. Act like it.

How do you develop consistency?

DeFilippo tells his QBs to “stack practices”. This means having a good performance one day and then following it up the next day with another good performance. Do that again. And again. Stack up good performances so that they become habit rather than special achievements. Wentz was up and down this spring, but stacked together a couple of good practices to close out the minicamp. That will make DeFilippo happy.

The upcoming challenge for Wentz will be to stack good Training Camp performances.

A lot of these ideas may seem simple. Remember the immortal words of Pat Shurmur. Football is a game made up of PE majors. That means that sometimes simple is exactly what the doctor ordered.

The key to success is for DeFilippo to get Wentz to buy into these ideas and work on them as if his life depends on it. In the football sense that is true. If Wentz does what the Eagles hope, the future is bright for him and the staff. The franchise will win a lot of games. If Wentz doesn’t develop into a star QB, the staff will be looking for jobs and the Eagles will be looking for the next franchise savior.

For now, optimism is high. Life is good for DeFilippo and Wentz. This fall will give us an idea of where things really are for the teacher and his student.

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132 Comments on “Flip”

  1. 1 CrackSammich said at 12:11 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    The talk of Wentz made wonder how Goff is doing. Basically, he’s horrendous.

    “Technically speaking, Jared Goff was one of the worst quarterbacks to take the field in at least the last 15 years. It didn’t matter what his circumstances was, because as this data supports, even when things where all right and set up for him to actually succeed, he failed to take advantage.

    My benchmark for his progression has remained the same all offseason — Goff will improve, but it’s basically because he can’t really get any worse. However, in no way am I expecting some miraculous turnaround and he suddenly becomes a Pro Bowl QB. As I have said before, at best we should expect to see something similar to what Case Keenum gave as the starter.

    The odd thing about all this, is Goff playing on the same level as Keenum did between 2015 and 2016, would qualify as a massive upgrade, and it’s an upgrade that any person should be happy to see.”

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2017/6/21/15831168/la-rams-qb-jared-goff-2016

  2. 2 Media Mike said at 7:45 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    The Rams really didn’t have a situation waiting for Goff that was likely to engender success.

  3. 3 Media Mike said at 7:54 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    And to answer your whipping boy(s) question.
    Kelce
    Kendricks
    Curry
    Gerry
    Watkins (but I believe he’ll be cut, so I’m not stressing it as much)
    Anybody in the WR/RB group who fumbles

    Other shoes that would drop stemming from this year…..
    – If Douglas never pans out at CB and Jernigan leaves after a year, I’ll be all over that trade down with Baltimore.
    -If Jones doesn’t step in strongly in his 2nd year, I’ll be all over that pick as well.

    The play calling is also on my radar screen, but I have faith they’ll call better plays this year because Pederson was 100% new to the task last year. I think he’ll smarten up massively this year.

  4. 4 Mac said at 10:23 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    If Alshon is able to play the whole season, then Doug’s play calling will look better (results) whether it actually got better or not.

  5. 5 Media Mike said at 10:46 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    That’s absolutely true, but I’m tired of seeing passing answers to short yardage questions.

  6. 6 Mac said at 10:46 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Amen to that.

  7. 7 suthrneagle said at 1:02 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Maybe the play calling wasn’t that bad…
    Had the various dropped TDs not happened as frequently then more points would have been scored.If the many other drops had not occurred the chains would have been moved, the offense would have had better field position…
    The play calling didn’t look so bad before Lane Johnson’s suuspension.

  8. 8 sonofdman said at 4:00 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I could see Jalen Mills emerging as a whipping boy with the potential to rise to second on the list (being Kelce). The other one who might come on strong as a whipping boy this year id Jordan Matthews. A lot of fans have convinced themselves that he is terrible and should be traded for anything we can get and will be looking for any evidence they can find for how bad he is.

    For the record, I like both of these guys, but I could see it going this way.

  9. 9 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Personally I wouldn’t flame either guy over the season.

    Mills makes an attempt to play hard and be competitive on each and every snap. He’s a battler.

    Matthews is what he is at this point. I won’t get worked up over his flaws as long as he’s still on his current deal. If they resign him to a 5 year / $40 million deal and weaken another position group by default; he’d make my 2018 list for sure.

  10. 10 CrackSammich said at 7:19 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Gerry? That seems rude to blame the player for the FO not having any LB depth.

  11. 11 Media Mike said at 7:35 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I didn’t want the dude drafted where he was taken. Hell, I wouldn’t have taken him at all. So he’s this year’s version of Countess in my book.

  12. 12 CrackSammich said at 9:02 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Honestly, in the 6th round, I think it’s like a 6% hit rate that late in the draft. Yeah, Countess didn’t work out and Gerry probably won’t and the guy you wanted at that draft spot has a 94% chance of not working out. Oh well, bro. You’re not exactly clairvoyant to assume his bust status. In the 6th and 7th round, I see it entirely as the coach/scouts’ personal preference, and your preference seems to be particularly narrow.

  13. 13 Media Mike said at 9:06 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    “and your preference seems to be particularly narrow.”

    And?

  14. 14 A_T_G said at 8:02 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Wow, it would be so depressing to have my team’s #1 overall pick described that way. They could have any player they wanted, and ended up with that.

  15. 15 Media Mike said at 8:06 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Greg Cosell was hammering the point home that Wentz was a better fit for the Rams “offense” realtive to Goff. Wentz was familiar with more under center / play action type stuff where as Goff wasn’t. The McVay system in place for the Rams now actually fits Goff’s background better, but the Rams still can’t block worth beans.

  16. 16 BlindChow said at 5:34 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Don’t worry, if you were a Rams fan you’d probably be in denial; which, looking at the comments, a lot of them are… It’s the reason Bradford still has fans. He just never had a fair shake, dammit!

    Still, I’m glad Wentz isn’t on that chart they posted. I’ve been scared he’ll become Bortles 2.0, but even Bortles 1.0 is listed there on the chart, so maybe we’re in the clear…

  17. 17 ChoTime said at 10:40 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Yes, Goff looks to have been a massive bust. It just shows how random the whole process is. He was a good-looking prospect.

  18. 18 P_P_K said at 12:11 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Please don’t tell anyone else, I wanted The Eagles to take Goff over Wentz.

  19. 19 Media Mike said at 2:42 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I was more of Goff fan as well based on WCO “fit” and what Pat Kirwan said about both guys.

  20. 20 P_P_K said at 12:40 PM on June 23rd, 2017:

    A big part of it for me was thinking that Wentz lacked the D1 experience and the jump into the pros would be too difficult.

  21. 21 ChoTime said at 11:44 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    I would have taken Goff, too. In my defense, if I interviewed him and he was a jacka$$, maybe that would have changed my mind. *shrug*

  22. 22 P_P_K said at 12:42 PM on June 23rd, 2017:

    That’s an interesting point. Like every other field, the college ballplayers are interviewing with their potential future bosses. It must be difficult at times for coaches and GMs to balance a guys skills with the thought of coaching a pain in the a$$.

  23. 23 CrackSammich said at 3:13 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I expect Wentz to be generally better, but the mistakes based off of technique to increase in early season and pressure situations. When you start fiddling with fundamentals, it takes time for those to internalize and become habit. So it’s entirely possible that he will be *worse* at the little things to start off the year while his head catches up to his new technique. And of course, when the game is on the line and he’s trying too hard, he’s going to revert. If he sticks with it, he will come out the other end better for it, even if he is piss poor to start. I personally am looking to see that his decision making is better this year, even if the throws aren’t picture perfect yet.

  24. 24 ChoTime said at 10:39 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Dunno… I think training camp is your chance to change tech, and once the season starts, you have to “dance with who brung ya.” Changing habits during the wham-bang schedule of the season would be difficult indeed IMO.

  25. 25 Dan in Philly said at 6:33 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I knew Wentz was a major league student of the game when I saw him take a notebook to Grudens football camp. He took that seriously.
    Wentz might not succeed, but if he doesn’t it wont be for a lack of trying,

  26. 26 Steve the English Eagle said at 6:00 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Yes the Gruden camp thing gave me good feelings about Carsen, clearly a smart switched on guy with a passion for football. You could see Gruden liked him. Mind you, I watched that on youtube after watching the Manziel episode, Carsen’s going to look like a genius after that!

  27. 27 P_P_K said at 7:07 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    This is one of my all-time favorite T-Law posts because I now feel so optimistic about Flip and Wentz. Anyone who posts anything that puts a cloud in my sunny sky will suffer my scorn.

  28. 28 A_T_G said at 7:59 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I agree completely.

    It is bad enough looking at the expiring CBA on the horizon and realizing another work stoppage could impact the team at a crucial time. We don’t need people pointing out bad stuff to boot.

    Oops…

  29. 29 Media Mike said at 8:04 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    CBA isn’t up until the end of 2020. That would put Wentz at 5 full years in the league. He’ll be developed at that point. And I don’t think there will be a lockout again. The owners, for the most part, got what they wanted on the $ end from the players. The owners will die on the Goodell = judge / jury / executioner as well, so that doesn’t leave a lot of change needed.

  30. 30 kajomo said at 8:40 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    All the players really want is to smoke weed. The owners will give them that in exchange for whatever they want back. The owners will come out in top, but the players will be too stoned to notice. No lock out.

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 8:46 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    The league is going to be in an untenable position with opioid pain relief abuse, medical marijuana laws, and marijuana legalization; so it stands to reason they’d leverage ending weed testing to their advantage anyway.

  32. 32 Ark87 said at 10:54 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    not to mention, alcohol is the substance that lands their players in the real trouble, but they are more than happy to not just allow it, but accept sponsors.

    But at this point it just feels futile pointing out how hypocritical the league is…once again.

  33. 33 ChoTime said at 10:38 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Taking away weed from the demographic of current NFL players is like taking computers away from Igglesblitz readers.

  34. 34 P_P_K said at 12:12 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Or is taking computers away from NFL players like taking away our weed?

  35. 35 ChoTime said at 4:22 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I guess?

  36. 36 D3FB said at 9:54 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    What the players union should demand:
    – Elimination of the franchise tag
    – Elimination of a hard cap
    – Fully Guaranteed Contracts

    What the union will probably get:
    – Weed
    – A kangaroo court instead of Goodell
    – Getting rid of the transition tag

  37. 37 Media Mike said at 10:44 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Decent list, but I wonder what fully guaranteed contracts would do to the quality of the game as they seem to ruin teams in the NBA/NHL/MLB.

  38. 38 D3FB said at 10:50 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    If you’ve got a soft cap it adds alot of fun roster building dynamics. The players deserve fully guaranteed contracts, and when front offices goof they deserve to bleed.

  39. 39 Media Mike said at 10:52 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    But doesn’t that punish me as a fan where I can’t get my team to turn over a roster fast enough when we’re stuck with bad old contracts?

  40. 40 D3FB said at 10:55 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    If you’re team is bad enough to give out a bunch of bad contracts then you’re fucked anyways. This just ups the ante. And if it’s bad enough you can always give up assets to get rid of it.

  41. 41 Media Mike said at 10:59 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I hear what you’re saying from a functional standpoint, but I really hate the economy of that type of setup in the other 3 leagues. I really enjoy the NFL’s ability to quickly liquidate mistake deals within a year. I look at things like the Ryan Howard deal with the Phillies vs. the Nnamdi deal with the Eagles; I like how the Eagles fixed that as a fan. And I’m going to choose my own level of enjoyment of a team over equity to the players 100/100 times.

  42. 42 D3FB said at 11:06 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    The Phillies weren’t bad because of the Ryan Howard deal. The Phillies were bad because they failed to develop any homegrown talent for a decade.

    Pablo Sandobal has a horrible contract, Sox are still pretty damn good.

    Remember just because your team has a bad contract doesn’t mean the rest of the league doesn’t have two or three guys with bad ones too.

    I’m sure it would increase your viewing pleasure if all contracts were just a series of team options. But fuck that.

  43. 43 Media Mike said at 11:16 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Again, I hear where you’re coming from. I’m just going to side on what I think is going to get me the best team game vs. player game. My ultimate fear with what you’re suggesting is that player are going to be able to ruin the NFL like the NBA is ruined by being able to make super teams rendering way too many teams moot. I’m also generally an anti-change agent, so trying to envision the NFL with a radically different set of salary parameters and roster construction methods isn’t really my speed either. My preferred update in the CBA would be to find a way to get more money and more roster spots to veterans in years 5 though whenever vs. guys making top dollar currently.

  44. 44 D3FB said at 11:18 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Yes, the league clearly needs more Ron Brooks.

  45. 45 Media Mike said at 11:19 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    You don’t think have more vets on teams vs. younger players would improve a lot of the quality of play?

  46. 46 D3FB said at 11:27 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    No.

    If a guy is good enough he gets paid. Teams find a way.

    Being able to have Nick Mangold as your third team center does not make the team better than keeping Tyler Orlosky.

    If a guy isn’t good enough to find a way to scrounge up a few million bucks for, he shouldn’t be in the league. Because while you’re idea may marginally improve the short term, in 5 years there are nobody on that tier because no young guys got kept as depth.

  47. 47 Media Mike said at 11:30 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Which would transition nicely into why I’d like to see a minor league / developmental league for the NFL. You could stash your young depth and develop it there.

  48. 48 Dude said at 1:40 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    It would be worth it just for the improved QB play alone.

  49. 49 D3FB said at 11:22 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    You’re not going to have Super Teams in the NFL. There’s too many players. Even if you got Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Aaron Rodgers, Julio, Tyron Smith to all hit FA at similar times and decide to team up you would have like $12 to fill the other 48 roster spots.

  50. 50 Media Mike said at 11:23 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    That’s a good reassurance against some of worst things I see in other leagues.

  51. 51 Insomniac said at 12:59 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Just have some desperate college kids take the spot. A job is a job.

  52. 52 P_P_K said at 12:13 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    You have to admit, though, that Howard deal was one of the all-time stinkers.

  53. 53 Ark87 said at 11:07 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    If it were guaranteed, I would want ways for teams to survive a bad contract. Not all bad contracts are bad because of foolishness. Sometimes, stuff happens, it’s football. It would necessitate teams being unwilling to pay anyone very much past a few years.

    Maybe contracts are guaranteed but you are allowed to take a certain amount off your cap (on a graduating scale per year of the contract you are on) should you decide to part ways. That way we get the satisfaction of Jerry Jones being sad, but the Texans aren’t sunk in the event that JJ Watt Bo Jackson’s out of the league.

  54. 54 D3FB said at 11:12 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Leagues with guaranteed contracts don’t seem to have a problem with length. A soft cap would largely take care of the injury issues. There are other options such as the stretch provision in the NBA. You’re idea works as well. I’d just like to see players more appropriately compensated for destroying their brains and bodies.

  55. 55 Ark87 said at 11:18 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I can get behind that, and I acknowledge the more nuance you put into these things, the more vulnerable it becomes to exploitation of loopholes.

  56. 56 RobNE said at 3:31 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    MLB doesn’t have a problem with the length of guaranteed contracts? Isn’t it a given that big FA’s you end up paying for back end years that of course will be on the downswing.

  57. 57 D3FB said at 7:56 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    And yet they still give dudes 10 year contracts. And guys past their prime get 5 year deals. That’s why I don’t buy this notion that it’s going to cut the length and amount of money guys get.

  58. 58 A_T_G said at 6:17 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I agree with the motivation in that last part. I think that is more about getting more for the guys at the bottom, though. The guys getting 10, 20, 25 million per year are adequately compensated for their risk. The guy taking the same (and likely special teams = greater) risks for league minimum are the ones to look to help. I think your ideas would have the opposite effect.

    How are you taking care of the guy on the field earning min. because the team is saddled with paying huge gaurantees to the FA flop on the bench?

  59. 59 D3FB said at 7:53 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Those guys are mostly on rookie contracts though. I think if you go to a soft cap you can convince all parties involved to bump up the wage scale. It also means that the rookie running down on kick off coverage who has his career ended gets the full 4 years of his deal, not just the half mil from year one.

  60. 60 bill said at 2:32 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Wouldn’t that just accelerate the disparity between “stars” and the rest of the players? Teams will be very reluctant to give out higher $ contracts if they are guaranteed. They will pay top dollar, in shorter contracts, for stars. Everyone else will pay for that by getting bottom dollar guaranteed contracts.

    This isn’t the NBA, where you only have rosters of 10 guys. Or even the NHL, with 20 or so. I can’t see how this works out for the average NFLPA member in the long run. Not that they don’t deserve guaranteed contracts, but, paradoxically, it might actually be better for most of them in the current system, with perhaps more payments to the NFLPA itself for pensions and stuff like that.

  61. 61 D3FB said at 7:58 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Look at other leagues with guaranteed contracts. That phenomenon doesn’t occur.

  62. 62 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:41 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Agree on the soft cap…if that was in place teams with young QB talent and money devoted to that can pay more to other positions in order to keep that talent around…See Detroit when Suh walked…there are already guaranteed contracts out there…its called the signing bonus…the rest is pay for play which is fine….

  63. 63 D3FB said at 7:36 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    NFL is like the only league on the planet without fully guaranteed contracts.

  64. 64 Sb2bowl said at 11:11 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’m hoping that its mandatory for players to be on HGH and certain types of steroid compounds.

    We pay good money to have the best product on the field; this is a way to achieve that goal.

  65. 65 Media Mike said at 11:17 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Interesting thought, but I can’t join you there.

  66. 66 Sb2bowl said at 11:18 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’d go more for the recovery properties more than anything else; those guys go through hell, and there are multiple ways which are not utilized because the NFL has banned so many options.

  67. 67 wee2424 said at 12:19 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Only two players have attempted it, but the idea is starting to spread. Players and their agents are going to start asking for a % of the cap to take advantage of the rising cap. It is allowed under the current CBA. Players will not want it brought up for obvious reasons, however you know the owners will to try and prevent it or at least regulate it.

    Franchise QBs will have the ultimate leverage for that type of contract.

    This I garuntee will be a major arguing point. One that very much has the potential to cause a lockout. Just think about the ramifications on both sides if that concept is regulated trashed, or stands with no regulation.

  68. 68 Ark87 said at 7:49 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    dammit A_T_G, you’ve gone and provoked another thoughtful discussion. Probably did it in that petty thirst for upvotes, you villain.

  69. 69 daveH said at 11:31 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Aaron’s scorn is always the worst

  70. 70 Media Mike said at 7:44 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    This was a really good breakdown of what a QB coach does and Flip in particular. Hopefully they can continue to keep him here if somebody better than the Jets come calling.

  71. 71 ChoTime said at 10:37 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Nice article, Tommy.

  72. 72 ChoTime said at 10:46 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    On tanking in the NFL:
    https://theringer.com/nfl-tanking-nightmare-new-york-jets-cleveland-browns-competitive-balance-6c9f3937811b

    A really bad article, actually, starting off with saying that tanking is an accepted way to get good in the NBA. That’s not true. Look at the teams in the playoffs–they didn’t tank to get there. Look at the most important players in the league–LeBron and Durant were FAs, Leonard was a trade for the 15th pick, Curry was picked 7th. Yes, crappy teams are tanking or stealth-tanking, and it gets them nowhere. But apparently it’s enough to sell desperate fans hope, on the very low chance they pick up a rare game-changing player.

    In the NFL, draft picks are even less valuable than in the NBA, where they are highly overrated. A team that tanks in the NFL, which is so biased toward parity, with its short season that makes almost anything possible, is truly incompetent and despicable.

  73. 73 Mac said at 10:49 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Hope springs eternal.

  74. 74 Ark87 said at 11:16 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    totally agree, I actually commented on that article. The idea that teams getting into the playoffs on the merits of a soft schedule (fluffed by the epidemic of tanking teams that isn’t happening) is somehow new and an existential threat to the league is really funny.

  75. 75 Sokhar20 said at 12:04 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I dunno, Cleveland tanking got them Kyrie and through assets, Kevin Love. Kinda doubt LeBron decides to go home if that infrastructure wasn’t in place waiting for him.

  76. 76 teltschikfakeout88 said at 4:15 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Love was acquired in the trade of the #1 pick Andrew Wiggins they had which was after LBJ had come…but Cleveland can use LBJ as a bargaining chip to attract other FA like Carmelo Anthony who is now just a jump shooter…don’t think they have any way to get into the Porzingas trade talk…

  77. 77 Sokhar20 said at 5:21 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’m well aware of how Love was acquired, hence my reference to “through assets”, to wit, Andrew Wiggins. Tanking got them the two picks that directly led to Kyrie and Love, so I think you can make the argument that tanking contributed significantly to the current Cavalier roster.

  78. 78 teltschikfakeout88 said at 8:41 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    When you referred to infrastructure in place… You preface that with Love…he wasn’t in place when LBJ made the decision to come home…sure they had the first pick in place but not love….that is all I am saying….

  79. 79 D3FB said at 7:50 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Love kind of was because Lebron came back on the condition that they trade Wiggins for a third member of a big 3.

  80. 80 RobNE said at 3:28 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Right now there are two teams that can win the title, and one would have needed a lot of luck. Durant was a FA that went to the most successful regular season EVER in the history of the game. Tell me more about how a bad team is supposed to get good, and how draft picks aren’t really that valuable to such a team. Should the bad team just sign Durant? That would be great!! Should the bad team offer LeBron more money than other teams? Oh what’s that it can’t, even worse the current team can pay more than the bad team b/c of the soft cap rules. #RTArmaggedon.

  81. 81 Ark87 said at 3:32 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Which is why Basketball needs to get rid of the series ASAP. Be the absolute best, have 2 of the top 10 players in the league or don’t bother. Best of 7 smothers the underdog. If it was more like the NFL, if you get in, you have a chance.

  82. 82 ChoTime said at 4:20 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I don’t know, I kind of like the better team usually winning.

    By the way, the better team does not _always_ win. That is nonsense. The Warriors were the better team last year, for example.

  83. 83 Ark87 said at 4:29 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I was a child when Little Giants came out. Forever endeared me to the romanticism of the under dog that may lose 99 of 100 times but that still leaves…

    one time.

    Still found it in my heart to grow up to hate both teams.

    Best of 7 made the whole NBA season and post-season a forgone conclusion the moment the Warriors got Durant. Unless he came down from a layup and landed on a landmine. Then who knows what would have happened!

  84. 84 A_T_G said at 5:54 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    When land mines are involved, tanking is the best option.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9e873fc7351b76ca85b3e6287e220671d9b32ac12112cbb16ebee4421439e8a.jpg

  85. 85 ChoTime said at 11:40 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    That’s a good point. I’m not a huge LeBron fan, but them winning the ‘ship last year was epic. I do enjoy a good story.

  86. 86 ChoTime said at 4:19 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    You’re right, the NBA has no parity and never has. It has always been dominated by the teams with the big stars. Dynasties or semi-dynasties are the norm. This is due to the combination of the disproportionate value of one star NBA player (similar to NFL QB) and restrictive free agency rules.

    It will always be an uphill battle, of course, but Houston is the team that has done things the right way. They haven’t gotten over the hump. They blew it when they brought on board Dwight Howard and he turned out to not be the answer. Imagine, though, that they were able to get Durant instead. They would have been right in the mix.

    San Antonio has also done things the right way (even right-er, really), but the difference is they have managed to acquire HOF-type players when they had a chance. Remember, Kawhi was a trade for a mid-round pick; it involved no tanking at all.

    By the way, I think Durant to the Warriors sux… big time. No way do any of those guys get as much props from me as any other champs in modern history.

  87. 87 Julescat said at 12:01 PM on June 23rd, 2017:

    NBA players are basically just mercenaries. The good players all show up on one team and make the regular season unbearable if your city isn’t the chosen team. The joke of a salary cap doesn’t help. The “superstar excepted from the rules” officiating also waters down the end product.

  88. 88 BobSmith77 said at 11:38 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I wonder if Fipp employs alternative teaching techniques like Mr. Migayi employed with Daniel-son.

  89. 89 Ark87 said at 11:42 AM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Just to be clear, Flip and Fipp are different people. And I’m pretty sure in Philly our alternative training techniques are legally required to look like Rocky.

  90. 90 kajomo said at 2:32 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I just picture Carson back in ND training like Rocky in Russia

  91. 91 Ark87 said at 3:23 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Goodell’s cronies following him in their shady car to make sure he isn’t doping.

  92. 92 sonofdman said at 3:50 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    We should try to convince them to follow Lane Johnson to keep him from doping.

  93. 93 A_T_G said at 5:46 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Now I am picturing him stiff arming a blitzing safety while he throws a laser, then yanking the guy in, face mask to face mask and saying, “I vill break you.”

    I realize legally, Carson must assume the Balboa role, but still.

  94. 94 P_P_K said at 12:15 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Wax on, wax off.

  95. 95 Pennguino Mack-Attack said at 12:23 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Maybe the Eagles are grooming Flip also. They blocked him last year for interviewing. Doug still calls the plays and manages the offense. Maybe in a year or two the let the OC go and promote Flip to OC to continue to work with Carson

  96. 96 Media Mike said at 2:40 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I like all 3 and hope they’re here until Wentz hits his stride as a perennial all pro.

  97. 97 RobNE said at 3:24 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    so, next year then.

  98. 98 Ark87 said at 3:51 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I think that’s the real motivation behind the interview block. The franchise gave up a lot to get Wentz. Lurie isn’t going to allow a coaching carousel jeopardize that investment.

  99. 99 unhinged said at 4:24 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Personality wise there’s nothing not to like about Doug, but I think his tenure as HC is going to be measured substantially by how consistent his offense is. If Wentz plays well enough, but we lose by lack of execution or turnovers, he will feel a lot of heat from the media and the fans. I think he’s up to the job, but he’s still got to prove it. I think growing pains will be tolerated more for Wentz than for Pederson.

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 6:59 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    My favorite thing about Doug is the TMI in the press conferences. He always says way more than he needs to and I love it.

  101. 101 Insomniac said at 1:03 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Did anyone think that a member of the Carr family would eventually be the highest paid player in history?

  102. 102 Sb2bowl said at 1:33 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Just goes to show you how much of a crap-shoot the draft really it; a number of teams were turned off and didn’t draft him simply because of his last name.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/texans-passed-derek-carr-twice-draft-they-never-talked-me

  103. 103 Insomniac said at 4:45 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    We can add Osweiler to that list now. Jokes aside, I thought Carr was a very good QB prospect despite his flaws. The current Carr on the Texans would be very terrifying.

  104. 104 Media Mike said at 4:47 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    My favorite guy in that class was Teddy.

  105. 105 Insomniac said at 4:49 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I liked Teddy as well but his arm strength bothered me a bit.

  106. 106 Media Mike said at 4:51 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I liked Teddy the best from the neck up and from his 2nd to last year at Louisville.

  107. 107 Bert's Bells said at 4:54 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Any QB on the David Carr era Texans would be terrified.

  108. 108 Sb2bowl said at 11:03 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Thankfully the Texans are the Texans, and that didn’t happen. But then again Carr may have not developed with that o-line. And having Cooper to throw to doesn’t hurt either.

  109. 109 D3FB said at 7:43 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Dude had legit red flag issues too. He was a nightmare in the pocket when pressured. His junior year bowl game basically made Margus Hunt a second rounder and his senior year bowl game against USC you could just draw a thought bubble with “AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHH HAAAAAAAALLLLPPPP”

  110. 110 ChoTime said at 4:14 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    “Dating Beautiful Russians” on the sidebar with an absolute hottie in red. Nice.

  111. 111 eagleyankfan said at 7:22 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    That’s mostly you ;). Your history is used to determine what advertisements to put up…

  112. 112 D3FB said at 7:40 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    It’s 2017 and we still get someone not understanding internet ads every other week.

  113. 113 ChoTime said at 11:37 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    I was just sharing. If you guys didn’t see it, you missed out!

  114. 114 sonofdman said at 4:19 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Every time I see a picture with Prince Harry in it, I always think it is Carson Wentz and get excited to read the corresponding article, then after a few seconds I realize it is not Wentz and get annoyed that my time was wasted with stupid British too-short fake Wentz.

    I can’t be the only one this happens to, can I?

  115. 115 ChoTime said at 4:22 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I am reminded of him when I see Prince Harry, too.

  116. 116 A_T_G said at 5:39 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Been there, done that, cursed the archaic institution.

  117. 117 Media Mike said at 4:25 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    LOL Chiefs

    https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/877983589379391488

  118. 118 Insomniac said at 4:47 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’ll take Andy back as long as he brings back 300 pounds of ribs with him.

  119. 119 Media Mike said at 4:52 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Doesn’t he walk around with those as part of his anatomy already?

  120. 120 Insomniac said at 5:50 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’d say it’s closer to tree fiddy.

  121. 121 Bert's Bells said at 4:52 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I don’t eat meat but dat KC barbecue….

  122. 122 Insomniac said at 5:49 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiU494V2cT4

    I hope we can get something like this with Wentz and Alshon someday. We need some more fades this year Dougie.

  123. 123 dandynator said at 6:49 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPsFzzWlUGI

    just saw this and thought i would share. Barnett = Orakpo im okay with that. Love the fact that he will stuff the run, with B.G and #91 i like that group. Hope like he says develop a good counter. What yall think of his postential? D3FB? i know this is a post about wentz but ..

  124. 124 Media Mike said at 7:03 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I’m on the record as being greedy and unreasonable, so I’d more than Orakpo’s sack numbers out of Barnett to feel good about the value.

  125. 125 A_T_G said at 8:20 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I thought the report was solid and fair, except for the Orakpo part. He is going to compare to Orakpo because they both only have one move? That seems to be an overly conservative view of his ability to grow.

  126. 126 Media Mike said at 8:25 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    I agree. I was just more saying what level of production would make me excited about Barnett’s career. And I know I was spoiled coming up with Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, William Fuller, and Hugh Douglas all back to back to back.

  127. 127 ChoTime said at 11:37 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Yes, pessimistic just like the guy who implied Wentz would only be All-Pro _next_ year.

  128. 128 Ark87 said at 7:39 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    This is roughly how I saw him on draft night. He has similar measurements, a great motor, and great reaction time off the snap like Curry. The main difference is that Curry’s 1 trick was speed to power, while Barnett’s exceptional trait was his ability to bend around the edge. That’s one of those things that you can’t really teach to the extent that Barnett does it.

    People hear he broke Reggie White’s college record and were thinking of him as a freak, so I was sort of sounding like a downer on draft night. Surviving in the NFL without special traits isn’t easy. His potential rides the spectrum between bust (if he doesn’t acquire a diverse and polished set of techniques), to dependable productive #2 pass rusher who has a pretty long career (which is very valuable by the way and great value for where we picked), with an upside of being like a Freeney who’s trademarks were his bending around the edge and spin move.

    I’d place my bet on the middle option, but he definitely has the upside to be a stud #1 pass rusher.

  129. 129 D3FB said at 7:39 AM on June 23rd, 2017:

    Orakpo was my comp for Barnett predraft. I think he’s a well rounded guy who has 10-12 sacks most years and 7 or 8 in down years.

  130. 130 Media Mike said at 7:00 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Sixers at 1 tonight. Flyers at 2 tomorrow night. Some clutch trades hopefully as well!

  131. 131 daveH said at 11:05 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Didn’t even see who their pick was yet. ..

  132. 132 daveH said at 11:32 PM on June 22nd, 2017:

    Couldn’t find any draft news on sixersblitz … what a ‘guan y’all?