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Posted: August 10th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 77 Comments »

Carson Wentz is trying to go from talented rookie to good QB. Effort isn’t an issue. Wentz will do anything he can to get better. The question is what do you actually do?

Tim McManus wrote a good piece on Wentz and what he’s done to get better, on and off the field. We all know about Wentz working on his mechanics, but here are a couple of other areas I found interesting.

Corrective eye surgery

What’s more important for a quarterback than good vision? Wentz had PRK laser eye surgery earlier this offseason, which is a less invasive form of LASIK.

“Recovery was about a week long. I was borderline blind to some degree for a couple days,” Wentz said during a recent sitdown with ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio.

One of the benefits is Wentz no longer has to worry about a defender poking out one of his contacts, which has happened.

“I knew I wanted to get this surgery when I could,” he said. “It’s been pretty life-changing, honestly.”

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New stretching techniques

Beyond the focus on mechanics, Wentz was schooled in the science of arm and shoulder stretching by House and Dedeaux, and Wentz is incorporating that into his pre-throwing routine. Many QBs seek this type of preventative care when they are older. Wentz hopes that getting ahead of the game will help him in his quest to have a long, healthy career.

“Just some different things to get the shoulder going, get the arm going,” he said. “Some rotational things that I’ve kind of implemented from them. And that’s a big part of the offseason: What I did learn is maintenance, arm care and different things like that. Because God-willing, I’m playing this game for a long time, and I want to make sure my arm is right there with me.”

I like the fact that Wentz is keeping an open mind about how to improve. He’s not just out there throwing footballs into trash cans to show his accuracy. He’s not just reading the playbook over and over, as if REALLY memorizing a play is going to change things. Wentz is taking specific actions in a variety of areas to improve as a QB and team leader.

The old saying is that the devil is in the details. Wentz seems to get that and he’s willing to work on anything he things can help him. That’s a great sign in a young QB.

*****

Zach Berman put up a piece on the situation with the slot receiver.

The speculation that Jordan Matthews will lose playing time at slot wide receiver to Nelson Agholor was not quieted by offensive coordinator Frank Reich, who said Monday that the plan at the position “is a little bit different than last year.”

 “Every spot’s up for competition,” Reich said. “The way we roll things, we’re always looking for guys who make plays. Nelson’s had a real strong spring and camp, so the way we do it is kind of by play. Sometimes we’ll switch guys up.”

The question was whether Matthews is still the team’s slot wide receiver or if he faces competition. Reich brought up Agholor’s name without prompting. Matthews has been the team’s top wide receiver the past two seasons and the slot receiver since 2014, when he first arrived in Philadelphia. When asked if Matthews will keep the same role he had last year, Reich suggested it could change.

“Right now, the whole receiver room is more competitive,” Reich said. “So yeah, I think it is a little bit different than last year.”

Is Agholor really a changed man? Will he actually be a good player?

Will the Eagles trade Matthews?

I haven’t written much about this in the last couple of days because I’m tired of just speculating and thought the smart thing to do would be to wait to see the preseason opener. That will let us see most of the receivers in action. We will have a better feel for where these players are and where the situation really stands.

Chip Kelly used to say that the players set the depth chart, meaning their performance dictated where they were slotted and not draft status or public perception. I think the players will also decide the receiver situation. If the young guys start to struggle at all, Jordan Matthews isn’t going anywhere. If they shine, anything is possible.

*****

Les Bowen had a good piece on C.J. Smith recently.

In Monday’s practice, Smith worked with the second team. He had one of the day’s flashier plays, breaking in front of rookie wideout Mack Hollins and flicking away a pass Matt McGloin fired on a rollout to the right.

“I saw Mack sit down, so I drove to him, the ball came, and I just knocked it down,” Smith said.

Hollins said the main thing he has noticed about the style Schwartz wants from his corners is that “they don’t give up the inside often. It’s hard to get in there.”

Smith said “just make plays and be consistent” is what he has to do to set himself apart.

“Being consistent I think is key, knowing the playbook and not having any mental errors,” Smith said. (This seems obvious, but, hey, for the Eagles’ corners, well …)

“And then, being comfortable and making plays.”

Smith has a huge opportunity. The CB position is wide open. If he continues to play well, Smith could win a starting job.

Interesting comment about Schwartz not wanting catches over the middle. I don’t know that Schwartz has ever talked about that. It does make some sense. Force passes to the outside and they should be more difficult to complete. That’s a longer distance, making accuracy more difficult and also meaning the ball is in the air more, which gives the DBs a chance to make a play on the ball.

*****

Jeff McLane has all the details in his article.

Graham deserves a chance to make more money. Incentives are fair for him and the team. If Graham lights it up, the team will be glad to pony up some extra cash and send it his way.

With Fletcher Cox and Tim Jernigan attacking up the middle, Graham could have a big season off the edge.

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  • Greg Tulino

    OK everyone Tramaine Brock is a legit #2 starting CB. He is a FA and we would not have to give up anything to upgrade our CB situation. Assuming the Eagles do their homework and are comfortable with him then I would like to see us snag him. Are you onboard with that? Or is his history too much of a concern and you would rather pass on him.

    • wee2424

      I would take someone with Jack the Ripper’s personality right now if it means improved CB play. While it is way early this team looks like it has the ability to be pretty damn good. It really would be a shame for the CB position to sink the season.

      • Guy Media

        I can’t cross that Rubicon with domestic violence guys. I don’t want him here.

        • Ryan Rambo

          Brock or Barner! Gotta keep one ALL SEASON! Who ya got???

    • Insomniac

      No. You can’t develop CBs if they don’t play.

      • Guy Media

        Correct. I need Mills, Douglas, and Smith on the field for a team that is still developing. And I don’t like Brock’s background.

    • Guy Media

      Nope. I don’t want him. He wasn’t found not guilty because the evidence exonerated him, he simply found some way to get a beaten woman to not follow through with charges. I’m not employing this dude; period.

      “Brock, 28, was arrested on April 6 on suspicion of felony domestic violence and child endangerment after officers responded to a call that evening. Officers reported that an adult woman had visible injuries and was “in a dating relationship with the male suspect.” Brock pleaded not guilty to those charges.”

      from http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20293899/charges-former-san-francisco-49ers-cb-tramaine-brock-dismissed

    • Buge Halls

      You have to wonder, if he’s a “legit #2 starting CB”, why is he on the street? There has to be some issue.

      • or____

        Yeah, it was the dv allegations and SF cut him to make an example.

  • Mac

    Tommy, did you give Wentz a discount?

  • CrackSammich

    In theory, I like the idea of motivating Graham with more money. But it’s not like Graham has ever been the kind of guy that needed to motivated.

    • Guy Media

      No, he certainly plays hard……..but the incentive numbers are set at sack totals in excess of what he’s ever done before in a season. I think the team did a nice job allowing him to earn more money only if he production picks up. So in either case he’s going to have to play out his current deal.

    • Ark87

      I like it too. I want him to get rewarded for production. I kind of hope it doesn’t influence him, in a way. I really like the units that are trained to get those hands up if they aren’t going to make it, stay in control. If you desperately lunge like Curry does, you take yourself out of the play, and the Russel Wilsons of the world will make you pay dearly.

  • Dan in Philly

    I didn’t live in Philadelphia when McNabb was a young QB, Vick was an old pro, Kolb and Foles weren’t that talented. Wentz is really the first potentially high level QB I’ve ever followed from the draft on. It’s hard for me to say he’s on the right track since I’m not sure what the right track is, but speaking as one who has spent years getting better at my craft of accounting, I like the cut of his jib.

    Some positions talent, size, speed, and such matter more than work. Nobody out works Jordan Matthews, and he gets all he can out of his talent, but he will never be as good as Dez Bryant has been for years. QB is different. You have to be talented, yes, but to be the best you have to devote all you have to it. I’ve never seen more talented QB than Jeff George, but he never became a good QB, likely because he just didn’t love it enough to make the sacrifices necessary. Wentz seems to love the game and love the position enough to embrace the rigors required. I look forward to following his journey over the next decade or so.

  • GermanEagle

    So after all this TV pre season drama I have signed up for the 7 day free trial of NFL gamepass.

    However when trying to watch last night’s game the server was down so I didn’t get to see one frigging play!

    Anyone else having the same problems??

    • Anders

      Game pass should be terrible right now. It seems to get worse every year

      • GermanEagle

        Have you had the same issues?!

        They are still robbing your money. I don’t understand why they can’t cope with many fans accessing at the same time?!

        • Anders

          I havnt had it in a few years, but seen many people complain on twitter

          • GermanEagle

            Great…

            I used to have the gamepass for a few years when I was still living in the U.K. but it was working just fine 4 years ago.

            I can’t believe they’re having the same server issues in the year of 2017!!!

            So it looks like no Eagles tonight. 🙁

          • Anders

            Honestly it worked great when I last had it 3 years ago, but it seems it get shittier every year

          • Frencheaglesfan

            What’s wrong with GamePass? I’ve been having it for years and except the price I see nothing to complain about? Know that my only other options were to download torrent days after or shitty quality illegal streaming.

          • Anders

            I have just seen people complain about games that never start or is forever buffering ever 10 sec.

          • GermanEagle

            Mine last night has never started… I am afraid I will have the same issues for tonight..

          • GermanEagle

            Hello mate
            I’ve tried to watch the game last night but the server was down for over an hour since kickoff. Then I just gave up…

    • Buge Halls

      This is why I use Kodi and streaming! The NFL needs to realize that the future of all TV is not huge cable deals, but streaming. I live in Virginia and would happily pay $100 or so a year to stream the Eagles games (a few years ago there was a deal with Madden NFL where you got free streaming – I promptly sold the game though). But I will not pay almost $300 for the Ticket – especially when I can count on at least 50 – 60% of the games to be on TV (and I really don’t care to watch Jacksonville play!)! I remember years ago when the ticket first came out they had a pay-per-view option for each game.

      The NFL needs to drop their exclusive deal with Direct TV and get up to date with a good streaming deal.

      • GermanEagle

        I like the gamepass concept, as long as it’s working. Also their app is not being supported anymore. Only God knows why…?!

      • RogerPodacter

        i wish there was a way that each individual team could set up something to stream their games, and only their games. heck, during bye weeks, and offseason they could play classic games, and fill time with interviews and stuff.
        i would gladly pay for something like that. I don’t want to pay the *league* something to get all games that i don’t want.

        • Mac

          For real. It is beyond absurd that this doesn’t exist.

          • sonofdman

            It does not exist on purpose because if individual teams could sell streaming of just their games, the pooled rights to broadcast/stream all of the NFL’s games would be worth a lot less. That is why the deal with DirecTV is worth $12 billion over 8 years.

            I too would much prefer to purchase a yearly package for just the Eagles games or be able to purchase streaming of individual games on a pay per view basis, and there are some legal arguments that the NFL teams should not be allowed to pool their rights to stream games, but since the NFL can act as monopoly in this instance giving consumers what they want isn’t necessary or even compatible with maximizing their money.

  • eagleyankfan

    “It does make some sense.” — not to me(million miles away :)). Conventional wisdom has always been – funnel to the middle because that’s where the help is…that makes sense to me…leaving our below avg CB’s on the outside vs. top wr’s can’t be a good thing — but I’ll just assume the DC has a plan for that…

    • or____

      Last time I checked, the sidelines are at least as effective as our stellar safety tandem. In fact, I don’t believe either sideline at the linc has ever given up a pass. I could be wrong on that…

      • FairOaks

        They have fewer interceptions though…

      • eagleyankfan

        or – CB plus sideline against Odel – Odel wins. Or CB plus safety vs. Odel — maybe safety wins. I guess though, if the thinking is to stop those crossing patterns that every team is running is a good thing. Maybe the best take away is – the DC has a plan.

        • or____

          Usually anybody v. Odel, Odel wins.

          • sonofdman

            Other than the kicking net that is.

          • or____

            2shay

        • Ark87

          thankfully, we’ve done a pretty good job not letting stars absolutely go off on us. OBJ, Dez, Zeke, Antonio Brown, Julio Jones.

          Didn’t shut them down, but they didn’t dump gasoline on our defense and burn it down either. Kudos to schwartz on that.

    • sonofdman

      It seems to me (anecdotally) that is recent years more and more offenses are set up to attach the middle of the field and Qbs are most comfortable throwing up the middle of the field. Maybe this in in response to the conventional wisdom of defenses funneling to the middle.

      If this is so, then it makes sense for a defense to focus on taking away the middle in order to stop what current offenses do best and take away what makes Qbs most comfortable.

    • ChoTime

      Yeah, encourage the QBs get the ball to the most talented guys on the field where they have no help (incidentally being guarded by our least talented guys on the field).

      Not how I would have drawn it up…

      • Mac

        We may end up with a fair amount of 3 safety looks this year. Help is on the way!!!

  • Ark87

    “PRK is a less invasive form of LASIK”

    NOOOOOOOPE! DON’T DO IT GUYS!

    Ok lasik, they take the outer layer of your eye, use a laser to cut a circle almost complete, kind of like a can opener, flip back that outer layer, do the work, set that layer back. Do their work with the laser to reshape your whatever to see straight, place that outerlayer back in place, you’re all better in a few days.

    PRK, they use a chemical solution on that spot on your eye, and SCRUB THAT SHIT OFF! While your eye is propped open. And you are quite awake. Then they do their work. Then you have to wear a “Bandage contact lense” for a week or more, while that outer layer grows back. and it suuuuucks. Feels like the worst sand in your eye feeling you’ve ever had. Constant eye drops. And you can’t see for crap, until it completely heals. And even then, your visual acuity is only worth a damn if they aren’t dry.

    The only pro is that there are less complications and it has a higher success rate.

    Edit: I had PRK

    • or____

      Less complications and higher success rate.. that sounds like a great argument FOR it.

      I’m sorry you had all that discomfort and I’m sure it sucked, but it sounds like PRK is better.

      • Ark87

        It was the predecessor to Lasik. The success rate thing is marginal. The time it puts you out of action ( you are nearly blind as those flaps are growing back uneven and such) is crappy.

        The military and active individuals must use it. Basically that eye flap thing in Lasicks can jar lose, and become misaligned causing all sorts of medical complications.

        My overall point is that it is much much more invasive. And for all you folks that read that and say “wow, that’s the hip new less invasive thing for correcting vision, athletes do it, i want to too”. nope. It’s the old-school method. It sucks. You only do it out of necessity.

        • or____

          Fair enough.

        • scratcherk

          Both are equally invasive. You have to get to the stromal layer in both procedures, its just a different way to get there. Either take the top layer off completely and let it heal up or flap it open. If it was my eye, I’d get PRK.

          • Ark87

            the semantics of invasive aside, difference in recovery times is dramatic. Also PRK doesn’t necesarrilly reach peak acuity for months, that’s a bummer. Wondering if the procedure didn’t work or if that layer is still smoothing out.

          • scratcherk

            Might want to check with your ophthalmologist again. See if you have higher order aberations, posterior curvature issues etc. Some can be enhanced.

          • Ark87

            Oh I did the PRK. I can tell you it worked. But if you have the option, I highly recommend Lasik. The recovery for PRK was miserable. Used up all my vacation time. Couldn’t drive, work, go on the computer, could barely operate my phone for audio books. They even told me not to work out if I didn’t have to (not sure if that was about not getting sweat in my eyes, or a blood pressure thing). I dread the day my vision deteriorates again (natural as you age). Got a big decision to make when it happens.

    • scratcherk

      Some people need PRK due to corneal thickness, amount of treatment etc. Also if you’re in a contact sport, you dont have to worry about the potential flap dislocation with trauma associated with LASIK. That being said, I know that many of the Lions players got LASIK and no one ever had a flap dislocation.

      • Ark87

        yeah, it’s rare, but a real problem when it happens, so the military won’t allow lasik. PRK only.

    • A_T_G

      Without question, both methods are preferable to Tommy’s in-home LASIK procedures, where success is unheard of and recovery time is measured in decades.

      Free sunglasses notwithstanding.

      • Ark87

        The sunglasses have green lenses right? If so I’m in.

    • ChoTime

      Nasty. I have this weird thing on both eyes that looks like a pinkish vein that’s creeping slowly from the inside toward my pupil. Apparently, it’s not a big problem except it makes me look tired and eventually it will start to obscure my vision. I’ve heard that it’s a very painful surgery, and the thing will start growing back anyway.

      • Ark87

        man that sucks. At least the eye doctors are relatively honest. Made me watch a whole informative video before signing a waiver like. Hey, you’re going to get old and your vision will go to crap again. But hey you can do the procedure again or get glasses, and the glasses won’t be as thick. Oh man :-/

        Anyway, eye surgery freaks me out, they loaded me up on Klonopin, but I was still totally clenched up when they were scrubbing my eyeball, and they were telling me to relax, HAH. They numbed it, but I could definitely feel it.

    • Mac

      Sounds brutal. My astigmatism prevents corrective surgical options… I’m just glad I can wear contact lenses.

      • Ark87

        I think I also have (had?) and astigmatism. They’re not all the same I’m sure. They were able to fix mine, because of new-ish advancements. It might be worth asking if you’re really interested. The laser procedure itself is completely painless, you just see flashing lights. If you are eligible for Lasiks, and have the cash, I’d argue it’s definitely worth asking your eye doctor about at your next visit to see if things have advanced to give you that option.

        Just that first step of PRK, and the recovery for it after, I shudder at it.

        • Mac

          Thanks, my info may be outdated. I would love to ditch the merry go round of buy new contact lenses every year.

    • RogerPodacter

      anything to do with laser eye surgery makes me think of this Home Movies episode, god i love this one.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-DtIAzWVc

      • Ark87

        loved that show so much, because of that I’ll watch anything H. Jon Benjamin is in. Same with the guy who played Brock in the Venture Bros (Patrick Warburton, never has a name matched a voice so accurately).

  • GermanEagle

    OT:
    List the top 5 QBs with the strongest arm in the NFL.
    Time’s yours!

    • sonofdman

      If 5 QBs are sharing the same arm, it better be really strong!

    • sonofdman

      In no particular order, and of the top of my head based purely and gut feel:

      Cam Newton
      Aaron Rodgers
      Joe Flacco
      Matt Stafford
      Carson Wentz

      • sonofdman

        Maybe Roethlisberger should be on there also, but not sure who he would displace.

      • GermanEagle

        Aaron Rodgers probably has the strongest arm on this planet.

        • A_T_G

          Vick isn’t dead yet.

          • GermanEagle

            Yes I remember those days.

            Starship 7 > Star Wars > Star Trek

        • Ark87

          Rodgers has a cannon for sure. I think Cam might have a slightly stronger arm, that dude can throw 40 yards on a rope, I swear. But Rodgers has way more arm talent. More accurate, and can put uncanny touch on those back shoulder throws. Most gifted arm of a generation, for sure.

        • Mac
      • FairOaks

        Cutler and Roethlisberger may displace Wentz. Wentz certainly has a good arm, but unsure it was top-5 level. I think he has a better idea of where/when to throw it than some of the mentioned guys though.

        • sonofdman

          You may be right, but I wanted to put Wentz on the list. 🙂

  • sonofdman

    Too bad for Graham the incentives are based on sacks and not hurries.

  • sonofdman

    I don’t think they would trade anything for him now, but I could see Arizona signing Jordan Matthews next year if Fitzgerald retires and the Eagles don’t resign him. Bruce Arians seems to like big slot receivers and moved Fitzgerald to the slot when he came to Arizona. Matthews is no Larry Fitzgeral (obviously) but it seems like he would be a good fit in that offense.

  • Seth S. Scott

    Its crazy how excited/worried I am about WR play right now. Its overall exciting to think about Alshon leading a pretty talented pack of receivers. But real games are much different than practice…and we all know Alshon is injury prone (*crosses fingers*) and if he goes down our receiver core gets much much worse.

    • Mac

      In my honest opinion, I did not like the Alshon acquisition due to the risks involved (injury history and pharming hobby). If you take Alshon out of the current mix you have.

      1. Aging Vet who we “hope” plays well with a good qb after year’s of less than mediocre play.
      2. A legitimate #3 WR who is limited to playing in the slot and has questionable hands.
      3. A first round draft pick who has shown us nothing to get excited about for a few years until this spring and summer. (I’m not expecting much)
      4. And some rookies/unproven guys.

      I’m super optimistic, yet my hope for this season is that we have WRs on the field who can actually catch the football when it comes their way so that they’re not a lead anchor dragging the whole team to the bottom of the Marianas trench.

  • Ryan Stocker

    “Wentz had PRK laser eye surgery earlier this offseason, which is a less invasive form of LASIK.”

    Not sure it’s less invasive. I know that it takes much longer to recover from PRK than LASIK. I had a friend that recovered from LASIK in a few days, but my brother had PRK and it took almost a month to get to 20/20 vision. The reason for people doing PRK though, is that it’s less likely to revert your eyes to their old strength when exposed to stress or trauma.