Gameday – at KC

Posted: September 17th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 796 Comments »

Week 2 is here.

The Eagles are going light at WR and heavy at DB. The WRs are all healthy and if anything did happen, the way the team uses Darren Sproles, Wendell Smallwood, Zach Ertz and Trey Burton means they could get by for a game.

We’ll have to wait and see how the DBs get used. I think using Patrick Robinson on the outside is the way to go, but Doug Pederson mentioned earlier this week that he’d like to leave him inside and play others outside. KC’s receivers are faster than they are big so I’m not sure this is a good week to use Rasul Douglas very much. Do you play Jaylen Watkins outside? Do you put Dexter McDougle out there?

You can use Douglas against small, speedy guys if you give him Safety help over the top.

If the Eagles win today, it will require a big game from the guys up front. My prediction…Derek Barnett gets his first sack today. Elijah Qualls makes his NFL debut. I’m curious to see how he’ll do as a pass rusher. Qualls flashed in the preseason and showed the ability to get penetration and be disruptive. He’s going to play limited snaps so he needs to give max effort every moment he’s on the field.

Will new PK Jake Elliott have a key moment? It will be interesting to see how he does.

Big chance for the Eagles today. We’ll get a feel for where this team really is. Can they win? Do they play well, but lose a tight one?

If there is one advantage the Eagles have, it is getting KC after their win over the Patriots. The whole world has been talking up KC for the past 10 days. That can go to your head. Will they be focused?

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  • SteveH

    This feels like the Pittsburgh game from last year… I’m hopeful but give the edge to the other team.

  • BobSmith77

    Call it Chiefs 26, Eagles 13. Eagles get behind early, have to pass a bit more than they like, and Wentz throws a few INTs among the 45-50 pass attempts.

  • Gary Barnes

    This is one of those OL and DL in the trenches games. If our units control the LOS on both sides, we win.

    I also have to differ on the “KC has been reading their news clippings and thus will be unprepared” cliche angle…Reid actively coaches against this and will nip that in the bud.. He has had 10 days to prepare and he’ll have his team ready.

    • BobSmith77

      Yeah it is basically a bye week for Reid and he deserves the credit he gets.

      Reid is 16-2 coming off a bye during the regular season; 4-0 in the playoffs.

      Eagles are going to have to weather the storm early here especially on defense. Chiefs are going to wrack up their share of yardage today vs this defense especially passing yards. Eagles need a few red zone stops (at least 2) and to force 2-3 turnovers.

  • Gary Barnes

    Burkhardt and Davis as the announcers…yikes horrible

  • scratcherk

    Game on boys

  • T_S_O_P

    Beer or Rum?

    • Dave

      Beer, rum should only be consumed if the Eagles are losing or playing badly.

  • scratcherk

    Hoping for a lot of Andy Reid moments from Andy Reid

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Thank you and Help request. I’ve got no choice but I’m going to miss most of this game. Bringing offspring to College today. I know I can trust yous guys, but please bring the snark and whine non-stop about drafting OL in my stead. Most gracefully yours, D_E

  • T_S_O_P

    Come on Jake. That would be of course, Jake the Peg, with the extra leg!

  • scratcherk

    Jaylen watkins Starting

  • BobSmith77

    Good coverage by Jenkins. Overrated in coverage including his stone hands.

    He got eviscerated last year in the slot when he had to play against his share of TEs/slot WRs last year.

  • shah8

    DBs look terrible

  • Gary Barnes

    Slice and dice so far

    Nice play by Kendricks

  • SteveH

    Yucky start, Kendricks with the PBU of all people.

  • BobSmith77

    Need a red zone stop. This team get can’t down by double digits early on and come back.

    • SteveH

      Yes, really critical to stop momentum there.

  • scratcherk

    Nice stop!

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Nice stop

  • CrackSammich

    lol. he hit him in the end. absolutely PI. good no call ref

  • CTbirdsguy

    great coverage by Jenkins, its really gonna be a back and forth battle between him and kelce

  • shah8

    Sam Bradford couldn’t play! I thought for sure he would…

  • scratcherk

    Looking forward to Andy abandoning the run, mismanaging clock, doing stupid trick plays. etc etc.

  • Gary Barnes

    Good hold on D

  • shah8

    Alex Smith gonna Alex Smith

  • T_S_O_P

    Tightened up.

  • SteveH

    Awful start but we settled down… Hopefully the O can sustain a drive here.

    • scratcherk

      shrug, just looked like good execution by the Chiefs.

  • A_T_G

    Not a terrible start. If we can drive for a TD now, it will be a good first exchange.

  • scratcherk

    feel like alshon is going to feast today

  • scratcherk

    There we go, run baby

  • SteveH

    O off to a great start. Take it to em!

  • scratcherk

    new cleats torrey

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Nice pocket

  • CrackSammich

    Nice, OL

  • Gary Barnes

    Nice blocking by Kelce and Johnson

  • CrackSammich

    Gotta credit, them on that one.

    • Spooonius

      Yeah, they sniffed that one out

  • BobSmith77

    Who uses more screens today – Eagles or Chiefs?

    • Spooonius

      Chiefs I hope

    • Gary Barnes

      Chiefs, Smith has good touch, Wentz not as much

  • shah8

    This is interesting defense on both sides, really..

    • CrackSammich

      Welcome back, friend.

  • scratcherk

    a run on second and long, nice.

  • T_S_O_P

    Silly screens!!

  • Sean Stott

    I personally love the banality of Fox’s B-crews.

  • BobSmith77

    Big catch and nice execution.

  • A_T_G

    Nice tackle, Peters

  • BobSmith77

    Quick is right – make the safe play and go with the checkdown instead of forcing a throw. Nice maturation by Wentz.

  • CrackSammich

    Oh, you motherfuckers

  • scratcherk

    id rather have the down back

    • Dragon_Eagle

      Your wish has been granted.

      • scratcherk

        I would have declined if i was fat andy

  • Gary Barnes

    PI?

  • CrackSammich

    intrigue

  • CrackSammich

    wooo

  • A_T_G

    Automatic first down! I’ll take it.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Nice First Down

  • scratcherk

    UGH IN THE HANDS!

  • BobSmith77

    Come’on Smith.

  • CrackSammich

    and it continues

  • Gary Barnes

    Wrong shoulder throw

    • scratcherk

      disagree

      • Gary Barnes

        You could clearly see Smith looking for the ball over his one shoulder and then had to turn completely around to try to catch the throw

    • A_T_G

      I think the term is back shoulder.

  • A_T_G

    That was a hell of a throw.

  • shah8

    looking at scoreboard, lots of terrible games today.

  • shah8

    Wentz is acceptably sharp today.

  • Gary Barnes

    FG try

  • scratcherk

    lets see this rookie kicker

  • CrackSammich

    Lets see what you got, rook.

  • scratcherk

    beauty

  • SteveH

    That’s how you start rook.

    Good drive, took up clock, Shame we couldn’t put it in.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Sturgis, who?

  • shah8

    both defenses are doing a lot of guessing and lots of sheltering their weaknesses…

  • T_S_O_P

    Jake the Peg

  • SteveH

    If the D can hold them to no points I’ll consider the 1st quarter a big win. Absorb their opening punch and come back strong.

  • CrackSammich

    god dammit, torrey

  • scratcherk

    anyone else surprised by watkins starting?

  • SeanofDead

    need Dline to make Smith uncomfortable here

  • scratcherk

    hicks ANGRY

  • Ryan Rambo

    Get em’ Hicks!!!

  • SeanofDead

    Hicks aint phuckin around

  • CrackSammich

    UGHHHHHH

  • scratcherk

    dammit, wrapup watikins

    • FairOaks

      I’m not even sure he went for the ball. Just took a bad line, or Hill adjusted after Watkins committed. Ugh.

  • SteveH

    WATKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • scratcherk

    cox hurt

  • CrackSammich

    mother fucker

  • scratcherk

    goodness, it took 11 to tackle him

  • Gary Barnes

    Uh oh, Cox limping off field

  • CrackSammich

    that was like 10 missed tackle.s

  • ConcussedFB

    Tackling.

  • SeanofDead

    way too much time for Smith

  • scratcherk

    alex smith outthrew tyreek hill… will wonders never cease

    • FairOaks

      Scary seeing Smith with all day to throw. Just hope he continues to be inaccurate if we can’t get the pressure on those

  • Gary Barnes

    Now McLeod limping off the field, yikes

  • scratcherk

    theres teh blitz.

  • SteveH

    Good hold after that egregious mistake by Watkins, didn’t cost us points.

  • shah8

    Alex Smith is terrible, and was lucky he managed to throw that away…

  • Sean Stott

    How come Graham hasn’t been in?

    • SteveH

      He was in on the first run stop… I dont think he’s hurt.

    • FairOaks

      Announcers mentioned him as soon as McLeod went out.

      • A_T_G

        Other Graham, I think.

        • FairOaks

          oops, sorry

  • shah8

    My poor, poor, Vikings, with Case Keenum and his three yards passing

    • A_T_G

      Nick Foles is probably available for a first.

      • SteveH

        Or a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, maybe 5th…

      • shah8

        Imagine if they had kept Joe Webb!

  • SteveH

    Looks like Cox will be back, Mcleod out, but maybe not serious.

  • A Roy

    Well, 1 qtr and we’re in this thing.

    • A_T_G

      About to be up 10-3. I can live with that.

  • SteveH

    Wow holy shit that sideline pass was 10000% better than last week.

  • scratcherk

    wow much better swing pass

  • scratcherk

    Thank you undisciplined Andy team!

  • SteveH

    #23 for KC… He’s someone to target.

  • A_T_G

    You can’t contain Nelson Agholor.

  • scratcherk

    three man rush,,, sack…

  • SteveH

    Man that was shitty between Seumalo and Kelce, looks like it was more on Seumalo.

    • Ryan Rambo

      Agree

  • shah8

    That was a double plus ungood pocket movement, Wentz.

    • Ryan Rambo

      Lol @ ungood.

    • A_T_G

      We have always been at war with collapsing pockets.

  • CrackSammich

    great play calling…

  • A_T_G

    Justin Houston is pretty good.

  • Dave

    Win or lose, the pace and excitement of this game is awesome.

  • A_T_G

    The gunner grabbed his hammy.

    • T_S_O_P

      Saw it too. Was it McDougle?

      • A_T_G

        I didn’t see.

        • A_T_G

          There it is, Watkins.

  • scratcherk

    i cant be upset with the way eagles are playing

    • SteveH

      I’m upset with that sack… 3 man rush should not get free up the middle like that. Really hurt the drive.

      • scratcherk

        agree, other team gets paid too but yea that was bad

        • SteveH

          Yeah but they didn’t even really make a play, Seumalo just looked like he passed the guy off when he didn’t need to. More a mistake on us than a great play on them.

  • Crus57

    if you took a drink every time one of our OL is stood watching a KC player make a tackle next to them do you think anyone would make it to halftime?

  • xeynon

    We can play with this team, but our offensive line has to improve or it’s going to be a frustrating season. Seumalo, Peters, and Kelce all with really bad whiffed blocks on that series.

    • SteveH

      Yeah man, OL is still a work in progress, I hope we get better.

  • CrackSammich

    Watkins limping now

  • shah8

    wondering what’s happening to Mariota. So far both game, rather low on y/a… Have heard tell on consequential drops…

  • scratcherk

    OT: but Rowe starting for Patriots, woot!

    • xeynon

      Would be nice to recoup a higher draft pick next year.

  • scratcherk

    Kendricks earning paycheck

  • shah8

    Alex Smith gets a free play, and doesn’t bomb the damn ball…

    • CrackSammich

      Cox hit his arm

    • scratcherk

      hey may have tried, got hit

      • shah8

        but I don’t think he was trying to throw deep. I think he tried a regular pass play…

  • SteveH

    Kendricks with another good play… Dude is really keeping up his good play.

  • scratcherk

    Rasul!

  • CrackSammich

    Rasuullllll

  • xeynon

    Run defense looks really good.

  • T_S_O_P

    War Kendricks

  • scratcherk

    NCIE!

  • CrackSammich

    completely free downs now

  • A_T_G

    The trifecta – you get embarrassed, penalized, and rocked by Cox.

  • xeynon

    Classic Andy play there. He really is great at play design.

  • scratcherk

    Lets get Alex uncomfortable

  • CrackSammich

    Come on, Long.

    • xeynon

      Long hasn’t been impressive so far.

      • CrackSammich

        Not at all.

  • scratcherk

    BOOM BOM BOMMMMMM

  • xeynon

    “Western Virginia University”? That’s a new one.

  • SteveH

    KENDRICKS !!!

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Kendricks Rox

  • A_T_G

    That sack should go to Bradham with the read on the RB.

  • scratcherk

    Good job D!

  • shah8

    Alex Smith isn’t really an acceptable quality QB. Jesus.

    • scratcherk

      you like to overreact alot i believe.

    • xeynon

      He’s the classic game manager. He won’t lose you the game but he won’t win it for you either. You need everything to go great to win in the playoffs with a guy like that.

      There’s a reason Andy spent his first round pick on a QB this year.

  • CrackSammich

    Just real tip top tackling out here today.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Poor Tackling

    • A_T_G

      Playing contain

  • Spooonius

    Why do we hate Kendricks again?

    • scratcherk

      see last few years.

      • Dave

        He is not a read and react player. But he absolutely has skills.

      • Spooonius

        I know, but I’m going to give him a Kelly/Davis pass if he keeps playing like this

    • SeanofDead

      He never played for the Bills

    • RC5000

      Cause he got hurt all the time duh.

      • Spooonius

        Oh, yeah I forgot! What an a-hole!!

    • xeynon

      I don’t hate him, but he’s a player with glaring weaknesses as well as real strengths. He’s a great blitzer and downhill attacker in the run game but he’s lost in coverage.

    • ChoTime

      never swim away from a shark

    • FairOaks

      The theory was that he’s not as good in coverage as he is blitzing or playing the run. And last year, they rarely blitzed and played the nickel a lot, so there wasn’t much way to use him to his strengths. He’s a good player and worth his salary, so the thought was it may be possible to trade him for a substantial return.

      But maybe the usage was dictated by the CB play last year and hopefully he can get on the field more this year, and play more to his strengths.

  • CrackSammich

    For real, where is Graham? I feel like that whole series was the backups.

    • scratcherk

      hes credited with one tackle and one assist. shrug.

    • A_T_G

      He got called for offsides.

  • SteveH

    Tense game… every point counts in this one.

  • SteveH

    Whew, Sproles making things count.

  • SeanofDead

    Keep on feeding Sproles

  • scratcherk

    come on with these drops.

  • CrackSammich

    god fucking dammit torrey

    • Spooonius

      Man. He’s got to get going.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Way to go Ertz

  • meteorologist

    Yeah Torrey doesn’t have talent to be more than a mediocre deep threat. No RAC, no hands, no blocking

    • xeynon

      Hands and ability to fight for the ball are not his strengths. He’s a deep threat and not much else.

  • Spooonius

    Looked like contact to me.

  • xeynon

    That’s a catch a top WR should make. On the other hand, Ertz is a really nice third down safety blanket.

  • Dave

    ugh!. clunk off of Ags hands

  • CrackSammich

    good awareness of the flag

  • CrackSammich

    well damn, dee. gotta give him credit for holding on…

  • meteorologist

    Horrible throw by Wentz. His deep accuracy is officially a concern for me

    • T_S_O_P

      Donovan’s deep ball wasn’tall that until we bought Jeff Blake into the QB room.

    • xeynon

      He has the arm strength but needs to improve his mechanics. Fixable problem.

      • ChoTime

        He gets it there, but it seems to require a lot of effort on his part. And of course, he misses.

        • xeynon

          Most QBs have to wind up and step into deep throws.. The Vick/Rodgers types who can just flick it 60 yards are rare. Won’t stop him from being an elite QB if he can improve the accuracy.

          • ChoTime

            Maybe I’ve been spoiled by Vick, McNabb, and Randall, who all had world class cannons. In any case, I consider the deep balls a weakness, and there is plenty of evidence that this is the case.

        • RC5000

          Not really. He has plenty of arm.

    • RC5000

      That was a long throw against the grain.

      • meteorologist

        True. But still not even close

  • SteveH

    Damn, Seumalo got beat again. Not a good game.

  • BobSmith77

    Need some better OL protection especially in the interior.

  • CrackSammich

    seumalo having an awful game.

  • scratcherk

    seumalo officially starting to worry me

    • xeynon

      Yup, he looks like hot trash today. An OG should not be giving up multiple sacks in the first half.

    • SteveH

      Yeah bad game. He’s playing worse this year than he did in his rookie year.

    • Gary Barnes

      This is why some of us did not want him replacing Kelce at C this season and why it is good for him to go through the growing pains at OG

  • scratcherk

    smith getting knocked around

    • xeynon

      He said known as a guy who’s good at getting it out quick and avoiding hits. That we’re getting to him is a good sign.

  • A_T_G

    It is almost halftime?! How did that happen already?

    • SteveH

      Really fast game, not a lot of change of possession so far.

    • xeynon

      Fair amount of running, few incomplete passes, not many changes of possession.

  • ChoTime

    nice hit he’s going to feel that tomorrow

    • A_T_G

      Hope he starts feeling it at halftime.

      • xeynon

        Our offense has potential but is clearly not at the point where we can count on it to score 30 PPG. If we’re going to go to the playoffs we may need to win some 10-9 slugfests.

  • scratcherk

    fake blitz??

  • scratcherk

    Big COXXXX

  • ChoTime

    cox representing

  • scratcherk

    fuck.

  • CrackSammich

    fuck

  • scratcherk

    ol reliable withthe fumble

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

  • ChoTime

    I love watching fat guys in green laying on opposing qbs

  • BobSmith77

    Tried to do too much there.

  • shah8

    damn.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Hold em to 3

  • scratcherk

    theres BG

  • BobSmith77

    Eagles’ DL has been even more dominant than last week. Relentless so far.

  • ChoTime

    Damn, i guess sproles isn’t westbrook reincarnated, ater all

  • ChoTime

    I tole you fools this is a great DL!

  • scratcherk

    MOAR HITS!! MOAR

  • A_T_G

    I am interested if there was a plan to push more of the 1st team DL reps to the end of the half.

    • CrackSammich

      certainly felt that way.

  • SteveH

    Great hold… D is showing up huge today.

  • scratcherk

    At least we got in Smith’s head

  • A_T_G

    Predictions: do we see Smith in the second half or not?

    • CrackSammich

      fuck him. put in the Mack truck.

      • A_T_G

        I meant Alex, but I appreciate the conviction.

    • xeynon

      His toughness has never been quesrioned – I think he’ll be back in there. Won’t be very effective if we can keep up this pressure on him though.

  • ChoTime

    oh, god, “swagger,” the key to winning in the nfl

    • meteorologist

      Know who tends to have more swagger? Players who are good

      • ChoTime

        exactly. also check out recent studies that show dominance postures don’t work

  • scratcherk

    run back for TD

    • scratcherk

      or touchback. same differnece

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Holy Shit

  • CrackSammich

    Holy shit

    • xeynon

      The feed I’m watching is a few seconds behind the broadcast so I’m not sure what these reactions are to immediately.. pretty entertaining way to watch a game.

      • SteveH

        lol, you see 3 “holy shit”s and you know something crazy is coming.

  • A_T_G

    Holy shit.

  • ConcussedFB

    Just the way they drew it up.

  • SteveH

    IT IS BETTER TO BE LUCKY THAN GOOD!!!

  • scratcherk

    WOWOWOOW

  • ChoTime

    just like they drew it up

  • FairOaks

    Damn. not a good deep pass again, but that turned out extremely well, and may cancel out the Sproles fumble.

    • FairOaks

      … or not.

  • Spooonius

    Torrey tried to make a block!

  • shah8

    Nelson Muntz “ha HA”!

    • shah8

      uh, okay… dang….

  • CrackSammich

    lol, stat counts for Wentz, and Ertz just beat last year’s RAC totals

  • ChoTime

    ertz is so overpaid

  • SeanofDead

    wtf

  • Spooonius

    Crap.

  • SteveH

  • Checkdown Charlie

    He’s a bum

  • CrackSammich

    lol. that’s fair, honestly.

    • SteveH

      Yeah we didn’t deserve those points lol.

  • A_T_G

    I had a bad feeling…

  • scratcherk

    fffff

  • ConcussedFB

    Damn

  • meteorologist

    I knew it when Reid called the timeout and he still followed through and kicked it..

  • A_T_G

    Snap looked bad. Behind the holder.

    • ChoTime

      Laces out, Dan!

    • SteveH

      Yeah it got down in time though it looked like.. I mean it’s a 30 yarder, he should be able to chip shot that.

  • anon

    huge arm but cant throw deep – damn.

  • Spooonius

    He got his 1 miss out of the way for the season. 100% from here on out.

  • SteveH

    I hope Wentz hits a bomb 2nd half so we can stop talking about deep accuracy.

    • anon

      we could also discuss the fact that torrey can’t catch

    • ChoTime

      I don’t think anyone’s said he isn’t capable of occasionally connecting.

  • xeynon

    Why did we bring in a rookie kicker when there are some proven NFL guys out there?

    • ChoTime

      potential!!!!!

    • A_T_G

      Sturgis is hurt-again-and in his last contracted year.

  • ChoTime

    well, that was fun. It looks like we’re going to continue to have crap offense and great defense, just like last year. I probably won’t get to watch the 2nd half. Wentz will probably light it up.

    • SteveH

      This game is pretty wild, surprised you’re turning it off.

      • ChoTime

        no, I have to take my family to the waterpark.

        • anon

          damn, i hope they recognize the sacrifice

  • Tumtum

    Good lord give’th and he taketh away

  • ChoTime

    Why does Howie Long look like he’s in his late 30s? Isn’t he 60 or something? He looks exactly like that in rl too

    • Tumtum

      Well his son is like thw oldest eagle…

  • SeanofDead

    Props to Schwartz and co….
    Kareem Hunt 5 carries for 8 yards
    Hill 2 rec for 18 yds
    Kelce 5 rec 71 yds

    • SteveH

      And most of Kelce’s came off only 1 reception.

  • CrackSammich

    no carries for Blount

    • SteveH

      He looks really slow… I’m happy we’re going away from him instead of trying to make it work.

      • ConcussedFB

        He looks like he’s carrying a refrigerator on his back.

        • Patrick

          Isnt that pretty much Blounts MO? Im fairly certain he is of the belief that the season starts around november/december and that theres no need to get in shape before then. Thats when you have a fairly good idea about whether its worth getting in shape for the postseason, or he can stay in off-season mode.

  • bobeph

    some of yall thinking the eagles were gonna win, LOL

  • Insomniac

    Andy iced us. Is this real life?

    • A_T_G

      Master of the timeout.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Finally

  • Insomniac

    Tipping in Philly

    Wentz – 1
    Shady – 0

  • SteveH

    We’re getting yards but not sustaining drives long enough to score points.

    • Tumtum

      Carson needs to get his touch game together.

      • SteveH

        Touch looked good on that dime to Torrey Smith. He fit the ball in a ridiculously tight window to Alshon too he just couldn’t make the grab.

    • xeynon

      It looks like the defense will be good enough to keep us in every game this year. Offense just has to find a way to score enough points to win, doesn’t have to be spectacular.

  • CrackSammich

    Hicks needs to work on that dawk leap

  • CrackSammich

    They not calling that horse collar? thats a gift

    • FairOaks

      Sure looked like it was in realtim

    • bentheimmigrant

      It’s only horse collar if you pulled them down. He threw him forward.

  • Insomniac

    1. Jernigan is a monster.
    2. We still can’t tackle.

    • xeynon

      Jernigan is a definite upgrade on Logan. Bennie is a good run stopper but the best you could hope for in the pass rush from him was the occasional mop-up sack. TJ is a legitimate pass-rushing threat.

      • Insomniac

        Jernigan is probably just as good as Bennie as a run stopper too.

  • CrackSammich

    awww, i saw the 6 and hoped it was barnett

  • SteveH

    Man this game is a slugfest, both D’s playing outrageously good.

    • bentheimmigrant

      At this rate we’ll be sending WRs to play in the secondary. Better figure out how to score soon.

  • Insomniac

    BG opening up the gap.

  • SeanofDead

    Dline is taking over the game

  • anon

    Remember when we had no pass rush? remember when we had billy davis? Love this version of the eagles defense.

    • xeynon

      Graham, Curry, and Cox are all much better fits in a 4-3 defense than they were in Davis’. Still, gotta credit the personnel department as well – Jernigan was a big addition.

  • A_T_G

    Nice touch on that pass.

  • scratcherk

    how many runs do we have/

    • FairOaks

      8, all Sproles (40 yards). And one Wentz scramble if you count that.

      • xeynon

        There was at least one Smallwood carry (stuffed for a loss) as well.

        • FairOaks

          Whoops, yeah, it was cut off on the stat sheet when I looked at it. Now Smallwood has two runs, after that 8 yarder, so he was -2 on the first.

  • scratcherk

    good protection

  • CrackSammich

    Was that Celek stoning Houston 1 on 1?

    • Insomniac

      Yes but Houston seems like he was playing contain.

  • CrackSammich

    MACK TRUCK

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Hollins busted his cherry

  • scratcherk

    MARCH BABY!

    • CrackSammich

      no no. superbowl is in february.

  • xeynon

    Mack Hollins reminds me of a faster Hank Baskett.

  • Insomniac

    I think Hollins could have gotten more if he ran outside instead of inside. Still a great route and nice sell.

    • laeagle

      Hollins looks like a player. Great body control once he catches the ball, and he catches the ball.

  • Dave

    News flash, Sproles is still fast

  • scratcherk

    lol “there is THAT run”

    • A_T_G

      Singular.

  • scratcherk

    Blount it baby

  • A_T_G

    Pass on this drive have been pretty close to perfect.

  • CrackSammich

    hell of a block by celek.

  • A_T_G

    Push off

    • A_T_G

      Or not. Woohoo.

  • CrackSammich

    fuck you thats a TD

  • SteveH

    TD what the fuck.

  • SteveH

    Why the fuck did we have to blow a challenge there???? anyhow…

    TOUCH DOWN IIIIIIIIIGGGLESS!!!!!!!!!!

  • xeynon

    Challengable play no?

    • FairOaks

      Yes, and Doug did quickly.

  • Insomniac

    Refs please.

  • CrackSammich

    go for 2. cant trust PK

    • FairOaks

      Just need to be careful kicking from the hashmarks it looks like 😉

    • RC5000

      No point in trying out a rookie kicker if you’re not going to use him …

  • SteveH

    Wentz perfect on that drive, huge drive by the O.

    • A_T_G

      If that kind of QB play becomes the regular for the next decade, we are going to be soooooo spoiled.

      • SteveH

        What I like is things had become a little uneven, but he settled down, refocused, and we delivered. After a decade of Donovan Mcnabb it’s so nice to have a QB who doesn’t get into a death spiral he can’t pull out of.

        • xeynon

          Donovan was a good, at times great QB, and way more resilient than people give him credit for. It’s the near decade of Kolb/Vick/Foles/Bradford I want to forget.

  • A_T_G

    Psst.

    Hey, guys….

    We are winning.

  • A Roy

    I don’t think we have road games this year. The cheering sounds like another home game.

  • SteveH

    Yo Dean Blandino is high as fuck every time he’s on camera. Dude’s eyes are so wide you’d think he just saw a ghost.

  • xeynon

    One underrated thing about Wentz’s game: while touch still isn’t his strength, he’s good at the back shoulder throw. Both knowing when to throw it, and placing it where his receiver can make a play on it. I can’t remember an Eagles QB throwing it as well as he does (not even Donovan was ever good at it).

    • Dave

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but he didn’t throw the back shoulder last year.

      • Insomniac

        He did a few times in the RZ.

  • CrackSammich

    arizona needs to figure their shit out. theyre my survivor pick this week.

  • scratcherk

    Baby pooped during TD. let me just say:

    WWWOWOWHOOOHHHHOOOOOO!!!!

  • SeanofDead

    I really hope Andy doesn’t change up his calling now that they are behind

  • scratcherk

    fumble bitches

    • scratcherk

      NM

      • FairOaks

        Yeah, no, not all that close. Forward progress stopped and he was on his back on the ground anyways.

      • A_T_G

        Those are some opaque green glasses.

        • scratcherk

          they’re prescription

  • CrackSammich

    watching this at work. I’m scaring the fuck out of my coworker cheering for that “fumble” and whatever we’re calling that ertz circus catch

  • Insomniac

    You know if Blount doesn’t work out as RB, Goode looked pretty good with the ball in his hands.

  • scratcherk

    Douglas playing well

    • Insomniac

      So is Mills.

      • CrackSammich

        Not giving Alex enough time to throw deep.

        • Insomniac

          Lets keep it that way, we’re trying to keep the speedsters in front of us. Bend and don’t break defense.

    • xeynon

      I like him. He’s never going to win a footrace but he’s tough, nasty, resilient, physical, long-armed and instinctual. Richard Sherman has demonstrated that that combo can make a guy an elite NFL CB even if he doesn’t have elite speed.

  • CrackSammich

    NOPE

  • Ryan Rambo

    Let’s go D!! (That’s what she said!)

  • A_T_G

    Douglas reacts quickly to the throw…hopefully that doesn’t expose him to double moves.

    • A Roy

      They have him set up for a double move. Hope the d-line can keep pressure.

  • A_T_G

    Dammit.

  • scratcherk

    fuck.

  • CrackSammich

    blah. knew it would happen eventually.

  • CrackSammich

    FLAG DOWN

    • CrackSammich

      nevermind

    • FairOaks

      after the play damn

  • SteveH

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH omg I’m dying. GODDAMNIT.

  • shah8

    well, my feed caught up. Sucks.

  • Insomniac

    Not holding 🙁

  • A Roy

    Why is that not holding on 72?

    • Insomniac

      Probably not enough proof, at least from that angle.

  • scratcherk

    really thought we would shut down hunt today

    • SteveH

      Outside of 1 run we have.

  • SteveH

    That missed FG better not be the difference in this game… You knew it could happen with a rookie kicker but…………

    • meteorologist

      Literally any other play could be “the difference”. A missed block here, a drop there. It’s subjective which play you choose to pin all the blame on

      • SteveH

        yeah a 30 yard kick though…

  • SeanofDead

    Corey G with a pathetic attempt there

    • SteveH

      Backups man, injuries biting us.

      • SeanofDead

        dude is a 10 year vet though

        • SteveH

          Well, Buffalo didn’t seem to have any urgency to keep him… He’s a stopgap measure in a weak secondary.

        • Crus57

          runs confuse him, see last week’s WAS TD where he ran into his own man

        • Insomniac

          He’s old.

  • meteorologist

    On the bright side, Rasul Douglas looking confident and good.

  • xeynon

    You could’ve driven a truck through that hole.

  • Insomniac

    Andy’s face was redder than his shirt.

  • CrackSammich

    a little early in the season for the fumblerooski

  • SteveH

    Lol, Wentz went to throw and it hit Brandon Brooks’ back.

  • scratcherk

    dont like the negative fantasy points for those fumbles!!!

  • xeynon

    Would really like to see this team add a big play RB this offseason. Both running games have largely been stuffed today but the Chiefs have a guy who can bust a run if he gets a seam and we don’t.

    On a side note, I’m more annoyed than ever at Chip for trading Shady for a crappy, injured linebacker. I’m his one season in charge he might’ve stamped himself as the worst GM in modern NFL history (yes, including Matt Millen).

    • SteveH

      It’s not at all what he intended to do but at least that linebacker ended up helping us get Wentz.

    • Insomniac

      There’s some good ones in next years draft not named Barkley. Not sure if we’re going to invest in one though.

      • xeynon

        Barkley will be a high first round pick – we don’t need to invest those kinds of resources but I’d like something more than a role player like Pumphrey in the 4th round. Should be possible – Kareem Hunt was a third rounder.

        • Insomniac

          If we’re taking one then I assume it’ll be in the 2nd round.

          • A Roy

            We’ll have to get a 2nd round pick, then

          • Insomniac

            I believe in Howie.

    • RC5000

      Hunt had a giant hole and no one was back there. . Sproles & Smallwood would’ve scored there.

  • RC5000

    Wentz is averaging 9.5 yards per attempt

    • xeynon

      I though he was just a dink and dunk guy who can’t take the top off a defense?

  • SteveH

    Damn Sproles badly fucked up that blitz pickup.

  • scratcherk

    Great play by wentz

  • SteveH

    WENTZ ! BIG PLAY.

  • bentheimmigrant

    It seems like every other play KC have a DL with their hand down in line with the ball. Can we have a flag please?

  • scratcherk

    seems like so many foot tackles this year that could have been big runs

    • CrackSammich

      give him a break. hes smaller than you

  • CrackSammich

    god this is a good game

    • xeynon

      Agreed. Even if we go on to lose this I’m very encouraged. KC is a top 10 team (at least) and we’re going toe to toe with them in their house.

      • meteorologist

        Maybe the toughest matchup in the NFL this year. Chiefs @ Arrowhead

  • CrackSammich

    MACK

  • scratcherk

    im loving hollins

  • CrackSammich

    can MACK be our HEATH?

  • A_T_G

    Chiefs DL is twitchy. We need a hard count.

    • scratcherk

      surprised wentz hasnt used more, he’s got the ability

  • FairOaks

    Damn I think Seumalo picked up a blitz when he was already engaged with another

    • Insomniac

      That JP and Seumalo chemistry.

  • CrackSammich

    MACK

    • Ryan Rambo

      MACK 10!

  • Ryan Rambo

    HOLLINS!!! HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA!!!

  • scratcherk

    JP good for one of those per game

    • scratcherk

      guess it was seumalo

      • Ryan Rambo

        With the Peters impersonation

  • SteveH

    wow, Seumalo again… That’s a momentum killer.

    • bentheimmigrant

      Pretty sure peters did too.

  • SteveH

    Damn, we were rolling until that false start.

  • scratcherk

    love carson’s awareness. most ealges qbs would have gotten a Delay there.

    • SteveH

      Yeah, seems like an Eagles tradition to get a couple dumb delay penalties every game.

    • bentheimmigrant

      I’ve never been convinced a timeout is worth 5 yards. Especially in a one score game.

      • RC5000

        Easily worth it in red zone.

        • bentheimmigrant

          Maybe. But being short timeouts at the end of the game can easily cost you a W.

  • scratcherk

    are we in FG range?

    • scratcherk

      “insert rookie kicker joke here”

    • Insomniac

      Are we at the 10 yard line?

      • A_T_G

        Don’t get him too close, it messes with his head.

  • A_T_G

    This drive seems to be fizzling.

  • scratcherk

    lot of contact

  • scratcherk

    come on jakie

  • scratcherk

    nice

  • CrackSammich

    oh, that butthole clench right there

    • scratcherk

      my anus sphincter gains a lot of muscle mass after a football season

  • Spooonius

    Whew!

  • SteveH

    Phew, nervous as fuck for that FG…

  • A_T_G

    Wow, is this a good game.

    • SteveH

      back and forth for sure, glad to see we can hang with a good team like KC.

      • A_T_G

        Yep. Regardless of outcome, this is a positive data point for the team progress.

  • SeanofDead

    well…nice kick kid

  • CrackSammich

    need a pick, need a pick, need a pick, need a pick

    • xeynon

      I will also take a strip sack with a fumble recovery by the Eagles. Return for TD optional.

  • Insomniac

    I miss the good old days of Alex Henery.

  • shah8

    An aside…really does look like Carson Palmer’s goose is cooked. and Blake Bortles needs to gtfo.

  • CrackSammich

    oh come on. how many missed tackles is that now

    • Insomniac

      At least 20.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Didnt need that return

  • RC5000

    My feed is behind so I can’t stay in the thread .

    • scratcherk

      your presence is missed.

    • A_T_G

      Been there, done that.

  • scratcherk

    akeem hunt almost tore our new kicker’s acl

    • xeynon

      Guys named -eem Hunt killing us in this game.

      • A_T_G

        Strang, because Wentz is a big Hunt-er.

        • CrackSammich

          Doesn’t play defense, unfortunately

  • CrackSammich

    ok. thats one. 2 more.

  • scratcherk

    nice, ill take it

  • SteveH

    YEAH ROOK!

  • scratcherk

    it was tipped

  • SteveH

    HUGE play by Douglas there. Big stop, god this is a great fucking game.

    • bobeph

      why do you use the f word so much,

      • SteveH

        I don’t mean to be rude but fuck off.

        • bobeph

          oh, OK,

  • TXEaglesFan

    Finger wag and the clapper

    • scratcherk

      I think you can take antibiotics for those

  • SeanofDead

    3 and out bitches!!!!!

    • bobeph

      please refrain from the cursing, sir

  • Spooonius

    I thought it strange that Kelce didn’t even run a route. Great play by Douglas!

  • scratcherk

    Wentz left that dude jock strap there

    • FairOaks

      Houston

    • A_T_G

      “That dude” was Justin Houston!

  • SteveH

    We’re going to get this win. I can feel it.

    • scratcherk

      you shut your filthy mouth

      • SteveH

        Haha yeah, just remember my jinx powers are weak.

    • bobeph

      only thing you feel is a warm turd in your butt

    • Spooonius

      Dammit!!!!!

  • SeanofDead

    Carson just crossed dat dude like AI

  • Spooonius

    Damn! That was on Houston too

  • CrackSammich

    smallwood certainly fucking tried.

    • SteveH

      It seems like every time he gets the carry the blocking is atrocious.

  • scratcherk

    these fuckign tips….

  • CrackSammich

    thats not the pick i was asking for

  • SteveH

    That’s my fault guys.

    • A_T_G

      Yup.

    • Spooonius

      We’ve all been there.

  • CrackSammich

    not a tip. nailed him in the helmet.

  • Spooonius

    Goddammit. Plenty of time left though. Please keep them out of the endzone

  • scratcherk

    jernigan blew that dude up

    • Insomniac

      So. Much. Penetration.

  • CrackSammich

    add another 3 missed tackles.

  • ChoTime

    damn, I come in and the first play I see is Carson nailing the back of some dude’s helment for an I

    • CrackSammich

      leave.

    • TXEaglesFan

      Turn it off

  • FairOaks

    Two batted passes in a row. Second one way too low and hit a helmet. Wentz does need to do better than that.

  • scratcherk

    UN FUCKING BELIEVALE

  • A_T_G

    HOW?

  • Checkdown Charlie

    That hurts

  • FairOaks

    Vinny… that may have taken them out of FG range, and instead Smith runs for a 1st.

  • CrackSammich

    Hate to cheer an injury, but…

  • CTbirdsguy

    I watch more eagles than any other team obviously, but why is there so often missed sacks and flying d linemen piling on top of each other…..

    • CrackSammich

      coaching

    • ChoTime

      1. our DL gets near the QB more than most

  • SteveH

    That missed Vinny Curry sack…… just like Chris Long missing the sack last week. We really really need to get our DL to wrap up on these sacks.

    • Insomniac

      The missed FG might hurt a lot more if we come back.

  • xeynon

    How many easy sacks are we going to miss this year?

    • Insomniac

      20.

  • Insomniac

    I hope Tommy counts how many missed tackles we had when he goes over the game tape.

    • CrackSammich

      That’s an easy Kempski article.

    • xeynon

      If we go on to lose this game we can clearly fault turnovers and missed tackles as the cause.

  • scratcherk

    hate that fucking play

    • xeynon

      It’s a good play. I’d like to see us run it.

      • truehaynes

        To ertz?!

        • xeynon

          Maybe Burton, Sproles, or Smallwood. Somebody with more RAC ability than Ertz.

      • scratcherk

        yea… me too…

  • CrackSammich

    fuck.

  • SteveH

    Man…. That missed Curry sack is going to be haunting.

    • xeynon

      Game changing failure to make a play there.

      • SteveH

        Couple of big plays swinging the momentum of the game… Sproles fumble, missed FG, Wentz int, Curry missed sack… In tight games you need to have those big plays swing in your favor. It’s not over yet though.

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Fuck Kelce

  • CrackSammich

    okay, time to nut up, Carson. lets do this.

  • shah8

    think that’s game…

    • scratcherk

      go away

    • ChoTime

      of such comebacks are Legends made…

      • shah8

        The game hasn’t looked like one where we’d see the sort of offensive execution needed to answer this TD.

        • ChoTime

          just needs one crazy schoolyard play

          • shah8

            and what happened the last time we had a crazy schoolyard play?

          • ChoTime

            Crazy schoolyard plays giveth and taketh away.

    • xeynon

      It’s a one score game and there’s still a lot of time left. Relax.

  • SeanofDead

    two turnovers on our end of the field leading to points for Chiefs…Gonna need some Carson heroics here

  • A_T_G

    An Andy Reid shovel pass. Tricky, indeed.

  • SteveH

    I gotta hand it to big red, that was great timing to call that play. Same one that ran vs. the Pats last week.

  • CrackSammich

    alright. this time last year, wentz would have thrown a pick right here. lets see if hes grown up.

  • SeanofDead

    Damnit…that missed sack would’ve taken them out of fg range…

    • scratcherk

      ability to finish when u get your hands on QB, so underrated. fortunately i think barnett has it.

  • truehaynes

    Vinny curry threw the game

    • CrackSammich

      fuck off with this. two dropped bombs by torrey, one in the endzone, a missed field goal, and youre gonna blame curry.

      • bobeph

        shutup

      • truehaynes

        Didn’t see the first half

    • Spooonius

      No, he missed a tackle.

  • meteorologist

    Andy still has it, unfortunately

  • Ryan Rambo

    Houston is a problem.

    • Insomniac

      Ertz was blocking

  • scratcherk

    going to have to hear all the whining about lack of running all week

    • scratcherk

      not htat i disagree

  • FairOaks

    Leaving Ertz to block Houston alone… hrrm. Need to get that ball out.

  • CrackSammich

    There better be a fake punt coming.

  • xeynon

    Can we get a call for a blow to the head on our QB?

  • Insomniac

    Ertz almost got Wentz killed twice on that drive. Yeaaa..

  • CrackSammich

    no. now thats game

  • scratcherk

    ugh

  • Checkdown Charlie

    Another nail

  • bobeph

    and yall thought the eagles would win today, LOL

    • xeynon

      Blocking you now.

      • bobeph

        cool, you a democrat?

  • Insomniac

    Pick 6 or it’s game over.

  • CrackSammich

    another missed tackle.

  • Tumtum

    Expected the loss. The way it shakes out sucks. Kelce is a strait ass.

    • Insomniac

      More obnoxious than Shady but still I’d take him over Ertz any day.

    • xeynon

      If you don’t want him to make an ass of himself, you gotta shut him down. That simple.

      • bobeph

        faggot

  • bobeph

    xeynon takes it balls deep

  • truehaynes

    This team sucks

    • CrackSammich

      fuck off.

      • bobeph

        whore dog

    • xeynon

      No reason to overreact. This was a knife’s edge game until midway through the 4Q. We just had a few huge plays go against us.

    • FairOaks

      Was an excellent game. It turned on a couple of turnovers. Curry had a chance to erase one of those, but didn’t.

  • ChoTime

    now that was sad

  • truehaynes

    Let him fucking score there

  • anon

    lots of WR money looks wasted

    • xeynon

      One Eagles loss and the hot takes start flying fast and furious. As a fan base we’ll never change.

    • RC5000

      OL is the bigger problem. Weak running game was what hurt us the most today and McLeod’s injury didn’t help. Also missing Darby.Peters groin also may be an issue. Carson needs to clean up istakes and Pederson needs to be better.

      Chiefs are a tough team to beat.

    • Insomniac

      I’d like to see Hollins take Smith’s spot.

  • Insomniac

    It was a good game until the end. The team is getting better and I think they can take the next step if we get our run game figured out.

  • ChoTime

    A statistically even game, except for 2 turnovers. Depending on how good KC actually is, maybe not a disaster.

    • Insomniac

      Chief’s missed tackles – not many.
      Eagle’s missed tackles – stopped counting after like 15.

      • ChoTime

        Yeah, frustrating. The interesting thing is that both teams earned about the same yardage/play, when it’s all tallied up.

      • Tumtum

        All late

    • xeynon

      It’s not a disaster. KC is a legit contender, Arrowhead is a very tough place to win and we were right in it until the end. Just didn’t get the big plays we needed.

      • truehaynes

        The curry missed sack was the nail

        • Tumtum

          I can thumbs up this one.

      • ChoTime

        One reason I don’t like QBs who rely on big plays *wink*

        • xeynon

          Wentz (1) doesn’t “rely on” big plays and (2) wasn’t the reason we lost today.

          It was our defense and S/T that didn’t make plays that were there to be made, not the QB.

          • ChoTime

            Are you sure about that? He has a lower-than-average yards/attempt, but on the other hand his scores seem to be flukey/athletic/chunk plays.

          • Tumtum

            Sure didn’t look like it today….

      • meteorologist

        Arrowhead is one of 2 stadiums that has a significantly above-average home field advantage. Per Bill Barnwell I believe

    • Tumtum

      Lots of flukey stuff for sure. D was outstanding but broke down for aome big plays at the end. That really can’t happen.

      • ChoTime

        Yeah… we just looked a bit undisciplined, a bit green from what little I got to see.

        • jshort

          Not a bad loss, don’t want to be peaking in Sept.

        • Tumtum

          I think more fatigued. For instance Vinny Curry does his pattened beat his man for free sack but half ass efforts for sack as he goes to ground. Smith runs for first down.

    • xmbk

      I’m gone go with definitely not a disaster, unless 16-0 was your target. 😉

  • bobeph

    cracksammich just jumped off a bridge, bum loser

  • xeynon

    Dear Fox: not so many crowd shots in places like KC where seemingly 3/4 of the population is morbidly obese please.

    • A_T_G

      Fun fact: you can replace KC with America or 2017 in that sentence.

  • scratcherk

    Cant wait to see Dak get destroyed

    • Insomniac

      If our DL plays like this every week then we’ll sweep the Cowgirls.

  • truehaynes

    Take went out

  • truehaynes

    No reason to get your qb hurt

    • Tumtum

      Take a deep breath. Stop posting. Lol

    • xeynon

      I want Wentz to get as much game experience as possible.

  • scratcherk

    Seumalo was trash today

    • Tumtum

      Yes x100

    • xeynon

      Still too many mental lapses for him. Hopefully he improves as the season goes along.

    • CTbirdsguy

      chalk another sack up to him

    • Insomniac

      first year starting, give him some time.

  • truehaynes

    If curry wraps up this is a different game

    • FairOaks

      If the new kicker doesn’t miss a chip shot, he negates the effects of the first turnover. If Curry gets that sack, he negates the second, and we’d have had a 3-point lead with the ball.

      Would also have been nice to not make those turnovers in the first place. Or get a couple of our own. We were close, but not quite there. We played a very good team even — maybe even a bit more than even — outside of the turnovers.

  • CTbirdsguy

    I’m glad I focused on lane Johnson that play….we can all appreciate him destroying his man right there out of frustration

  • shah8

    There was someone talking smack about Bennie Logan. Show up, fool, and answer for your damned jinx!

    • Insomniac

      Jernigan >>>>>> Bennie.

    • xeynon

      Even a blind squirrel blunders his way into a coverage sack every once in a while.

  • Tumtum

    Seao finally gets credit for his suck

  • xeynon

    Carson really needs to learn to unload the ball. That one was not actually Seuamalo’s fault.

    • Tumtum

      He deserved it though

      • xeynon

        Yeah, he was awful today.

  • FairOaks

    Probably should have used a TO there. Not that it matters a whole lot.

    • TXEaglesFan

      Should have used that to huh?

      • FairOaks

        Damn. Yeah, would have 27 seconds instead of 5 here, with one timeout left even, and this would have been somewhat possible.

  • Tumtum

    Gimme an Ertz trash TD. I deserve it!

  • xeynon

    That was a weak effort by Jeffrey. Go up for the damn ball if you want a top 10 WR contract.

  • jshort

    Thought i’d throw in a half hearted “time to fire Pederson”….ahhhhh , not yet.

    • xeynon

      Sad thing is there will be plenty of people calling for that. I didn’t see anything today that I could put down to poor coaching.

    • Tumtum

      Doug had agood game by my eye.

  • A_T_G

    You cannot contain Nelson Agholor.

    (Good grief)

    • Tumtum

      Very nice play by him.

  • FairOaks

    Using a timeout earlier would have saved about 22 seconds. Would still be an extreme long shot, but 30 seconds is a lot better than 8 left.

  • CrackSammich

    whoaaaaa

  • SteveH

    NO WAAAAY!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT

    • Tumtum

      Clearlt im behind u…lol read this about 5 sex before happened.

  • A_T_G

    Why do they have to do this to me?

  • scratcherk

    oh my.

  • CrackSammich

    keep the new kicker

  • ChoTime

    Wentz 7.4 yards/attempt
    Would put him at 13th in the league last year (he ended up 29th, only beating Brock mFin Osweiler).

    • xeynon

      He was at like 9.5 in the first half. Small sample size.

      • ChoTime

        Yeah, well you have to add in the bad halves with the good ones :). He was at 7.9 last week, so the needle is definitely pointing up from last year.

        • xeynon

          Dude, he was getting hammered in the second half. Got balls tipped/batted down, was forced to throw it away or make low percentage throws that went incomplete multiple times because he had had three guys in his face and nobody open, etc.

          Take it from somebody who actually watched the second half – the dropoff in performance in this game was not Wentz’s fault.

          • ChoTime

            I hear you, man! KC is no pushover… still, the point of statistics is everything gets added in–hard games and easy games, sitting ducks and impossible situations.

          • xeynon

            Agree 100%. I just think we have to hold off on any judgments about whether Wentz has taken the next step or not until we have a bigger body of data to analyze (probably half a season’s worth of passing plays).

          • ChoTime

            Of course!

        • RC5000

          No you don’t have to. It’s a team game. You have to put it in context. Chiefs are a great team so far. Running game wasn’t effective and Pederson didn’t run enough.

          He wasn’t great but YPA wasn’t the issue imo. It was the mistake.

    • RC5000

      He was at 9.5 YPA at one point in 3rd. KC took over. No balance with running game & shaky OL.

    • Insomniac

      It seems like Doug was limiting Carson’s ability to throw deep last year. I don’t think it was the wrong decision since Wentz could barely hit anything deep last year with his mechanics and bum WRs. He’s shortening the leash this year now that he has more experience, improved mechanics and WRs. Accuracy on the other hand still isn’t quite there yet.

      • ChoTime

        You might find this article interesting, as it shows DVOA (which is a rate stat, and thus independent of usage) by route type.

        http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/dvoa-routes-quarterbacks

        • xeynon

          Some of it is still down to his receivers though. Even when Carson has thrown catchable deep balls (and he’s thrown a few despite the generally spotty accuracy on them), his receivers have not made the plays.

          He needs to improve, but so do the WRs.

  • scratcherk

    if only he piced it up

    • xeynon

      Too risky.. looked like it was headed out of bounds if he didn’t corral it right away.

    • A_T_G

      Can he advance it?

  • shah8

    one last chance!

  • xeynon

    Nice toe tap by Nelson there. He’s had a quiet day but that was a big time catch.

  • CrackSammich

    Look, for a loss, this shit is worth the price of admission

  • ChoTime

    Guys, what’s going onI, I can’t watch

    • A_T_G

      Scored, on side, Hail Mary…failed.

  • ACViking

    With Full on sidekick, fair oaks point about Unused timeout Is so on point

  • CrackSammich

    Oh just play the game

  • jshort

    Should to have tried to scoop and go.

    • SeanofDead

      Cant advance an onsides recovery

  • TXEaglesFan

    Throw a 6 yard out

    • A_T_G

      Dude, Bradford is gone.

  • A_T_G

    They tricked us into showing the play was going to be a Hail Mary? Why?

  • CrackSammich

    bah

  • scratcherk

    ah.

  • Dave

    one question, why was Ags in for the hail mary and not hollins?

    Regardless, that’s why you keep playing and don’t give up.

  • SteveH

    What a heartbreaker. We hung so tough but it got away late in the game.

  • CrackSammich

    arizona keeping my survivor pool hopes alive right here.

    • bentheimmigrant

      Even knowing that… I still root against that whiny bum of a coach.

  • truehaynes

    So someone said Torrey dropped two long tds?

    • CrackSammich

      one

      • A_T_G

        And dropped is a little strong.

    • FairOaks

      First one was probably just out of his reach — fingertips. Second one was right on the hands, though was battling a defender.

      • SteveH

        He wouldn’t have scored the 2nd one either but it would have been a big gain.

    • BobSmith77

      Wentz struggled badly on deep balls today and lacked touch/too many poor throws on the screens.

      Asked him to do too much though because this running game wasn’t getting it done.

  • SteveH

    Man… I’m gonna be despondent about this loss for a while. Such a rollercoaster.

    • ACViking

      I appreciate that the NFL is as close to a flag football — and hence passing — league as the rulemakers have contrived at this point.

      But, jeez, Wentz is just a 2nd year QB . . .

      Can’t call running plays on 2nd and long most of the time.

      • ChoTime

        Yeah, after all, Reid doesn’t coach here anymore.

    • xeynon

      No reason to be despondent. KC is (1) an elite team; (2) an AFC team; (3) playing on 10 days of preparation time and (4) playing at home, which is one of the toughest venues for road teams in the entire league. This Eagles team was not going 16-0, and if you had to pick one game before the start of the season you thought would be a guaranteed loss, this would be right near the top of the list of the ones you’d pick. It’s also right at the top of the list of games they can afford to lose. I’d much rather they beat Washington and lose this one than the inverse, because an out-of-conference loss isn’t going to matter as much in playoff considerations as a division loss would’ve.

      Of course I wanted a W too, and it was within reach. But if they come back with a win over the Giants next week, things will still be absolutely fine.

  • A_T_G

    For those interested, Wentz was the correct fantasy call over Newton, and it wasn’t close.

  • BobSmith77

    Hunt was the difference in the 2nd half. Chiefs rode him to a victory.

    One loss on the RBs and counting.

    • RC5000

      Nah it was a total team win for KC. Hunt had a huge hole on the long run with only stinky Graham back. Many RBs score on that. Other than that Hunt had 12 carries for 28 yards and 3 catches for 28 yards.

  • Ryan Rambo

    So what do you guys think about Alshon so far? I know we’re only 2 games in….just interested in thoughts.

    • xeynon

      Looks like the same guy he was in Chicago to me. The ability to be an elite, top 10 type receiver is there, the consistency is not.

      • Dave

        Had a drop clunk off his hands.

    • SteveH

      He’s played like a very good, not elite receiver so far. I think it’s worth the 1 year rental but we’ll see about a contract extension.

  • CrackSammich

    Am I allowed to root for Goff? I feel like this is a gray area.

    • A_T_G

      Today is definitely okay.

  • kajomo

    Hey remember when LeGarrette Blount was our starting RB? That lasted 1 week.

    Seumalo was absolutely abused today. Where is the promise he showed as a rookie?

  • A_T_G

    Carroll gives up the catch, then recovers in time to miss the tackle.

  • scratcherk

    broncos up

  • xeynon

    This was a tough loss since we had a chance to make a statement and steal a W against an elite opponent on the road.

    Still, it was an early-season loss to an AFC opponent. Those are the kinds of losses that are much less likely to haunt you than blowing games to divisional opponents. If we were going to be 1-1 after two games, a loss here and a victory at Washington is the combination you want.

    Have to beat the Giants in the home opener next week (very doable – I can’t wait to see our pass rush go after Eli behind that lousy O line of theirs) and things will be fine.

    • SteveH

      Yeah I expected we’d more likely lose than win today… It’s just the way that it happened that feels crushing.

      The good news is that we looked like we belonged on the same field as KC, who look like a top 5 team out of the gate this year.

      We took this one on the chin, but we’re a team on the rise for sure I think.

  • RC5000

    Pederson has to commit to the running game more and/or get it straightened out .

    • SteveH

      It’s hard to stick to the run when it’s getting stuffed constantly I think. Really the OL has struggled in both pass and run blocking, Seumalo in particular was awful today.

      • RC5000

        I think KC knew what plays we were running so that’s on Pederson too imo. He didn’t adjust. Tough opponent but the running game really hurt us..

        They teed off on Wentz as game went on. You have to keep em off balance.

    • xeynon

      Hard to commit to it when you have bad run blocking OLs letting plays get blown up in the backfield and bad RBs who can’t salvage things by making guys miss. Even when they have blocked a play well over the first two weeks, the RBs have been unable to break that one tackle that turns a solid gain into a big one.

      • RC5000

        You still have to run the ball. That’s why we couldn’t pass down the stretch and they teed off on us. Chiefs also knew what running plays were coming. Pederson has to get the play calling and runhing game straightened out.

        Sproles Makes players miss and Smallwood only had 3 carries so how would you know if he can make plays? Reports were he did in TC.

        46 pass attempts to 13 RB runs is not going to get you many wins.

  • SteveH

    I’ll tell you what will make this loss feel better, is the Cowboys losing. We’re all Broncos fans right now.

  • Gary Barnes

    Huge pass/run imbalance….50+ passes vs, what, 13 runs? Blount with 1 carry for 0 yards. Smallwood ineffective. Sproles seemed to be their game plan option, but Sproles again can only do so much at this point of his career. Did not see Clement play.

    This shows me again the Eagles do not have a strategic plan for building this roster or a team identity for how they want to play. If the Eagles are going to sign Blount, who has a very defined strength as a RB and needs reps to produce, one, they need to use him enough and, two, they need to commit to using him so he can be effective. If Pederson, Roseman, Douglas etc. were all aligned on signing Blount and using him effectively, something has either changed or they signed him out of desperation or to have a name guy.

    The OL played better overall, but passing 50+ times eventually wears them down. Seumalo struggled, but the rest were at least solid and gave Wentz a good amount of time in the pocket.

    Wentz had a mixed game, but showed a lot of moxie and toughness playing in a loud stadium against a very good D that knew he was going to pass every play. He does hold onto the ball too long, take too many sacks and make some bad decisions, but this was a hard assignment for a young QB and his HC did not make it any easier.

    • Fufina

      Blount has never needed reps to produce his entire NFL career. Has been a short yardage/late game bruiser his entire career, especially with the patriots (barring 2016).

      Run pass ratio really is not that vital in a west coast system, and it only go that extremely unbalanced late when they had to pass against the clock trying to catch up.

      • Gary Barnes

        Blount has said himself he needs enough reps to get into a rhythm – he said it just last week after the first game.

        Run/pass ratio does matter – balance is needed so a defense does not know what is coming, so our young QB can develop effectively, so our young QB does not get killed and so the opposing defense has to play every facet of the offense.

      • Gary Barnes

        They ran the ball 8 times in the first half and 5 times in the second half. That is HORRIBLE and Pederson rightly stated in the post-game PC that the run game is broken and needs to be fixed. If Reid had done that here, he would have been and was routinely killed.

        • RC5000

          Totally agree the lack of running game undid us today the most of anything. They need to commit to it and straighten it out.

      • RC5000

        They need a much better pass to run balance in this league .

    • scratcherk

      Id disagree and say our identity is pass heavy, whether you like that or not

      • Gary Barnes

        Certainly has been that way these first two games. And it was not just in second halves or 4th quarters. Pederson has passed overwhelmingly from the first snap.

    • xeynon

      I have mixed feelings about the running game thing. Wentz was able to move the ball through the air. Whenever they went to the run, it seemed like it got stuffed and we ended up in second or third and long, unless it was Sproles carrying the ball, and as you say you can’t give it to him 25 times a game.

      They need to improve their ability to run the ball for sure, but I think if they’d prioritized it here it would have lessened their chances to win this particular game. So it’s tough to fault Doug for leaning so heavily on what was working.

      • BobSmith77

        Not going to happen with Kelce and Seamulo especially against a 3-4 defense.

      • Gary Barnes

        But it only worked sporadically which is the point.

        Wentz got sacked 6 times, threw one mind boggling INT under pressure, almost lost a fumble under pressure and was generally chased or harassed in and out of the pocket all day. Why? Because the Chiefs D knew they were only going to pass and could rush without worrying about the run. That INT unfortunately led to the winning TD for the Chiefs.

        The pass game had success, sure, but we left points on the field and it places Wentz in a situation where he has to be perfect and the OL has zero chance to impose their will. They are back pedaling the whole game and eventually wore down.

      • RC5000

        There’s no way I wants 46 passes to 13 runs by RBs and Wentz to be teed off on. If it continues he’ll get injured too. But it was a tough opponent.

    • RC5000

      They have a strategic plan it’s probably just not on your timetable. I didn’t think we were getting everything this year.

      • Gary Barnes

        My timetable does not matter, I want them to win a SB every year like any fan. The key is what is their timetable? I’d love to know and understand how they plan to put the pieces together. It is a difficult process – but I do not see a present or future at RB so far this season.

        You didn’t think we should expect to have an effective run game this season?

        With a young developing QB, it is critical to relieve pressure off him and not have him taking regular hits/sacks every game. Plus in combo with our good D, it certainly would help to have an effective run game to help run clock and control games.

        • RC5000

          They clearly went for D – Barnett, Jernigan, Jones, and Douglas… no OL or RB at top of draft and that was ok with me. We tried dream team, fans said build through the draft, now they don’t have patience to do that?

          Shit they didn’t have any WRs when McNabb started until they got T.O.

          It’s year 2 and 1st for Wentz when he was man in camp.

          Defense and WRs are also critical.

          You have expectation of winning Super Bowls instantly? Really …that’s not building a roster or team to me. That’s expecting magic.

  • CrackSammich

    Alright, friends. I’m not sticking around for the postgame butthurt. Same time next week?

    • SteveH

      Gotta watch the Cowboys lose. That will make things feel a lot better.

  • Tumtum

    Noland Carroll doing Noland Carroll things.

    • Dave

      I’m not a huge fan of Mills, but I’d take him in a heartbeat over Nolan No-Look Carroll.

      • Tumtum

        Mills is really stepping up for a young guy, drafted in the 6th round. I have nothing but respect for him, and really think he is an asset at the moment.

        • Dave

          He didn’t step up last week.

          • Tumtum

            Jumping up and making a great play on the ball in the endzone, saving a TD isn’t? Endzone int?

          • Dave

            The end zone into was due to a blitzes rushing Cousins into a throw right into his hands. His receiver was open for a TD but the pass was nowhere near the receiver.

            He gave up 10 passes for over 100 yards in 15 attempts. I don’t know how that could be qualified as anything other than poor. Just because he didn’t give up a 75 yard TD does not make it a good game.

          • Tumtum

            That wasn’t his guy. He was in zone. How many free INTs have we seen dropped and then lost a game over the years? Give credit where credit due man. He is the best 7th round pick I can ever remember.

          • Dave

            10 catches for over a hundred yards but let’s give the guy credit for catching a ball thrown right at him because other defensive backs have stone hands.

          • Tumtum

            I guess we will see what Tommy has to say in the DGR and then pick this up after.

          • Dave

            That was last week’s game.

          • Tumtum

            Oh got mixed up in the different conversations. DGR from last week seemed to agree with me though. He looks good to me this year.

            Shit I expected to get gutted by Hill and we didn’t . Even when McLeod got hurt. In my book everyone in the secondary gets a gold star.

          • Dave

            I’m was very happy with the DB play this week. I figured Alex Smith would be under pressure and take the check-downs. It seems the philosophy so far this season is allowing underneath completions and the tighten up the coverage in the red zone when the field is shortened.

            I fully expect Mills will be relegated to the bench next year with Darby and Jones starting and Rasul manning the slot.

          • Tumtum

            One of the biggest things to me all through the last game was how they would allow those underneath catches, but actually doing a terrific job of coming up to make tackles.

          • Dave

            Rasul Douglas and Mills are outstanding at tackling. Far cry from the Assante/Lito days of avoiding contact.

  • SteveH

    It could be worse, Trevor Siemian could be our QB. How did he miss Demaryius Thomas there.

  • Tumtum

    You know I was thinking about the big plays and then I got to thinking about the McLeod injury. Coincident? Think not.

  • RC5000

    The Eagles had 46 pass attempts and 13 rushes by RBs. You can’t win much with that imbalance. Credit to KC too but we can’t keep doing that.

    • Gary Barnes

      It was worse, Wentz scrambled 4 times when pass plays broke down too.

  • Tumtum

    Watching Rob Kelly carve up a good Stl. D makes me like our D even more.

  • Tumtum

    Hello? DirecTV. Where my Dallas game go? I dont need skins twice.

    • jshort

      weather

  • jshort

    Was nice to see Stiff arm get his first couple NFL catches today.

  • BobSmith77

    This was a very Reid-esque game including the post game where Pederson gave generic answers about needing to improve things & giving credit to the other team in the post-game press conference.

    Pederson seems like he is learning a bit in regards to the post-game press conference. Going to get criticized to a degree regardless and even more so when the Eagles’ lose. Why give the Eagles’ beat writers any red meat or candidly answer a question?

    • Dave

      McLane and Roob don’t need red meat, they can sling it with or without any explanations.

    • ChoTime

      The run/pass ratio, the gameplan to put too much weight on one man’s shoulders, reminds one of mid-late Reid/Eagles.

  • BobSmith77

    Wentz got sacked a career-high 6 times today and hit another 10 times officially (little debate on the post-game about that number).

    Wentz isn’t going to make it through the season taking anywhere near that kind of weekly punishment.

    • mksp

      a lot of that was on him

      • RC5000

        I put it more on lack of a running game and KC teeing off on him.

      • BobSmith77

        Some of it was but 4 of those sacks came in the 2nd half when they got behind and Chiefs unleashed their share of pressure especially in the interior.

        Ertz had a good game receiving but he got blown up a few times on pass production today. Houston went right around him on his sack.

        RB blitz pickup wasn’t much better. Sproles is just too small to pick up blitzes up the middle.

        • mksp

          He needs to pull the trigger when he has time. Make some NFL throws. Can’t wait for someone to get wide open every play. Kind of down on him after this game.

    • SteveH

      I think Wentz is in that Cam Newton/Roethlisberger mold, can take an obscene amount of punishment and keep on trucking.

      • Gary Barnes

        Both those QB have been injured/banged up a lot during their careers – not what I’d like to emulate with Wentz. I’d like an Eli-like career for Carson.

    • Dave

      Kansas City and Washington both had good defensive lines. Eventually we’ll play a team with a good secondary and bad defensive line.

  • BobSmith77

    Still don’t know what to make of Wentz’s performance today. Made some nice plays with his legs & a few nice throws including the TD to Agholor. Also had at least 4 drops again today (Smith 2, Agholor 1, Jeffrey 1).

    Pederson said Wentz threw some nice deep balls today that were accurate in the post game. I bet the numbers on his pass attempts on 20+ yards would refute that and the game tape.

    Struggled again today with the screen passes and should have just thrown it away on the deflected INT. Also had 3-4 balls that the Chiefs’ DBs/LBs dropped and could have intercepted too.

    I guess I would say it was satisfactory and the coach asking him to do too much like it a lot way too often in the 2nd half last year.

    • Dave

      What would you do if you’re offensive line cannot open holes for the running game? Pass the ball or keep getting stuffed for no gain?

      • BobSmith77

        Sproles ran fairly effectively and they had 3 carries to Smalwood/0 to Blount.

        Media guys are going to pound on Pederson about it this week and there is some valid points of criticism.

      • A_T_G

        I’d use a hard count to keep the DL from teeing off quite so much.

        • Dave

          I don’t think that was possible today with the noise level. At home, yes.

      • Gary Barnes

        I would have Wentz run more which he did and get the screen game going

      • ChoTime

        6.3 yards/carry by my count.

        • Dave

          QB scrambles inflate that greatly. Wentz was 4 for 55.

          • ChoTime

            Still 4 YPC without the scrambles. You can work with that.

          • Dave

            The gains were in the first quarter. After that, little to no running room.

    • RC5000

      He was very good through the tipped ball int. Still expect growing pains and it was a tough opponent and place to play.

      I have always said he makes a big mistake 1 or 2 times a game and that’s my biggest concern with him. If you do that you have to be like Favre and pull it out in the end.

    • Gary Barnes

      Wentz was up against it today even before Pederson went pass-heavy and largely ignored the run game.

      KC has a very good D and Arrowhead is very tough to play in. The INT was an attempt by Wentz to throw it away according to his PC, but it bounced off a helmet and was an easy pick. Bad execution unfortunately.

      Wentz is really good at the mid-range throws, flawless really. The touch on short balls is erratic and the long ball needs work. 18 games into his career, it will hopefully come with more time.

    • Tumtum

      Usually plays like the ones where Smith “dropped” it, you call those a PBU. If I am not wrong…

      I’m probably a bit down on Carson honestly. I feel like his touch outside the hash marks really needs improvement.

  • Gary Barnes

    Play calling and run/pass ratio rants aside, this team overall played a tough, strong and relentless game vs a very good opponent on the road. Kudos for that.

    Any word on McLeod or Watkins injuries?

  • BobSmith77

    Play of the game though was the Curry missed sack and Smith somehow scrambling for a 1st down.

    I don’t know how Curry missed wrapping Smith up when he had a clear shot at him. Chiefs have to punt there if Smith gets dropped & it is still a 13-13 game.

    • Tumtum

      Is it bad I feel like he was tired, and he kind of half-assed it after beating his man?

      • Gary Barnes

        I think that is unfair – Curry played hard from what I saw and the missed sacks seemed to be a result of over-running Smith rather than dogging it

        • Tumtum

          I hope…but I just couldn’t help but think “why are you leaving your feet right now?”

    • Will Ft. The Roots

      We miss about 3 sacks a game

  • BobSmith77

    Chiefs’ defense really impressed me today even without Berry and Peters supposedly at 80-90%. Logan had a pretty good game too and was able to cause problems for Kelce (big shock) most of the game.

    Did a nice job of mixing up the pressure in the 2nd half and using Sorensen in some creative ways to generate pressure on a few blitzes.

    • Tumtum

      Hard for me to evaluate interior O-line, but I wasn’t able to see any plays where I could point Kelce out for something bad. Seo made him look bad a couple times for sure though.

  • BobSmith77

    Seumalo gave up 3 sacks and 3 QBs hit today. Woof.

    Curious to see other OL stats and if this was the worst game in pass protection for an Eagles’ OL since the infamous Winston Justice debut vs Giants.

    Here is his game footage:

    https://media.giphy.com/media/26FPy3QZQqGtDcrja/giphy.gif

  • Dave

    Tommy has a new post up↗️