Big Time Statement Win!!!!!
Posted: September 10th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 258 Comments »Just having a little fun with that title. It was great to see the Eagles win in Washington today, but there’s no need to try to make it into some franchise defining moment. It was a good win, on the road, against a division rival.
Here are some things that stood out to me.
Injuries – Ronald Darby is out for a while, if not the season. His ankle was not a pretty sight. It’s not something you can rest for a month and get back to playing shape. The Eagles overcame the situation by using a variety of players in a variety of ways. Give Patrick Robinson a lot of credity. He struggled this spring and early in the summer, but moving to the slot got his confidence back and he played well inside and outside today. My guess is Robinson stays outside with Dexter McDougle taking over in the slot. Jason Peters left with a groin injury. Big V took over at LT and did a good job.
Jason Peters says he'll play in Kansas City.
— Tim McManus (@Tim_McManus) September 10, 2017
That’s good news.
Caleb Sturgis got hurt on a kickoff late in the game. We have to wait and see what his condition is.
You don’t like injuries, but it was good to see the Eagles overcome them.
Defense – Kirk Cousins has a lifetime QB rating of more than 100 against the Eagles. The Skins averaged 28 points in their 5-game win streak. Put simply, their offense dominated the Eagles defense for 2 1/2 years. That changed today.
The Skins got 264 yards. They scored 10 points on offense. The Eagles defense had 4 sacks, 3 takeaways, scored a TD and one of the takeaways came in the Red Zone, preventing sure points. Skins RBs were 13-34 on the ground. Cousins ran for 30 yards himself, but you’ll never complain when he leads that team’s ground attack.
Nelson Friggin’ Agholor – Best game of his NFL career. Agholor hauled in a 58-yard TD to open the scoring. Carson Wentz did the hard work, but Agholor got open and caught the ball. He wasn’t doing that stuff last year. Agholor was open a lot in the game and caught 6 of 8 passes thrown his way. He finished 6-86-1. He was open for another deep ball, but Wentz was off-target. I loved the fact Agholor played with confidence. He wasn’t hoping to be good, he expected to have success.
Those Plays – If you watched the game, you know what I mean. The Eagles were in scoring position with a promising drive when Wentz threw a lateral to Agholor. The ball was off-target and the Skins recovered it. The Eagles later faked this play and threw a screen off it. Didn’t work well. They had some other WR screen passes that didn’t work well.
Pederson has two choices. Either coach the absolute hell out of those plays so that they are executed flawlessly 99 out of 100 times or quit calling them. My vote is to quit calling them, but that doesn’t seem likely. The timing on the plays wasn’t good. The throws weren’t good. The blocking was awful. I’m sure the plays make sense in theory, but if your players can’t execute them consistently, get rid of them.
One side note…I was happy that the botched play to Agholor didn’t affect him. Last year a play like that would have destroyed his confidence.
Zach Ertz – Last year Ertz was 6-58 in the opener. Today he was 8-93 and he made some big plays. This might actually be the year that Ertz plays at a high level all year long. He and Wentz have great chemistry and that showed today. Wentz trusts him and Ertz made some tough grabs.
The Blitz – Jim Schwartz was aggressive all day vs the Skins. He blitzed more than he does most of the time. He sent LBs, CBs and Safeties. He attacked up the middle and off the edge. The blitzers didn’t get any sacks, but one blitz was huge. Schwartz had multiple guys go up the middle on a Red Zone play. Cousins threw falling away and his pass sailed over Jamison Crowder’s hands and right to Jalen Mills. That prevented points and may have saved the game. Schwartz prefers to rush four and cover with seven, but he wanted to make darn sure Cousins didn’t get comfortable in the pocket. And he never did.
Blocking – The O-line struggled this summer. I thought playing extended snaps together would get them into a rhythm and things would be fine. Nope. The OL struggled today. Wentz was under way too much pressure. Run blocking wasn’t as good as it needed to be. And you can’t blame this on the Peters injury. I actually think the line was better with Vaitai in there. Sometimes losing a key player will get everyone else to step up their level of play.
Wentz – 26 of 39 for 307 yards. 2 TDs, 1 INT. Rating of 96.8. Wentz had a good game. He had some real highlight moments and he had some poor plays as well. The good far outweighed the bad. His deep accuracy was a problem. The Eagles missed at least three long TDs due to errant throws. Wentz has to get better at that so he can take advantage of his new weapons.
His ability to avoid sacks and keep plays alive is a huge plus. Wentz is so strong that he’s not going down on casual contact. He’s incredibly elusive for a big man and he can give rushers fits. The best part is that he keeps his eyes downfield and that can lead to some big pass plays.
STs – Dave Fipp’s guys did not have a good summer, but that all changed today. The coverage units were great. Caleb Sturgis was 3-3 on FGs (but did miss an extra point). Donnie Jones had a strong day, pinning the Skins at the 1-yard line with one punt. The return game was the only thing lacking.
*****
This was far from a perfect performance by the Eagles, but they played well overall and won the game. Great way to start the season.
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first!
Nobody cares! This isn’t Spud’s page.
Unless you’re talking about the first win, then we care.
Is there an equivalent of bootleg streams for those of us who shamefully missed?
Go to Reddit about an 30-60 minutes before a game but they get taken down quickly too.
Yea I’m looking for like a replay stream, or somebody uploaded their dvr version of it. I know how to find the live bootleg streams.
NFL game pass + VPN is the way to go
Buy game pass from nfl. Worth the $100
Kodi (on an Amazon Firestick) has the replays…you should be using a VPN if you do this for safety.
No DVR?
No DVR and out of area. So of course on the week it was a national TV game I missed…
Gonna be a long season
You can buy an older used Tivo on Craigslist for under $30 (there are always a lot for sale). Try to find one with lifetime service that way you’ll have no monthly fee, otherwise Tivo will charge you $15/month.
Then get a Cable Card from your provider for about $20.
No monthly fees and all the Eagles games on DVR for less than $50.
next time you’re out of the area, use usatvnow – they stream channels out of Harrisburg – that’s how I watch them in VA when they don’t play the ‘Skins
You can usually find a game replay on youtube within hours after game. Might take some effort but its there.
https://www.nflfullhd.com/category/philadelphia-eagles/
It should be up tomorrow
If Darby hadn’t gone down this win would feel more triumphant. Taking down a team who’s given us trouble lately is satisfying.
Wentz threw 607 pass attempts last year (5th in the NFL).
Threw 39 today (624 season pace) and I bet he exceeds the total from last year. Hope Wentz doesn’t end with a sore elbow again like he did lat year. Never really got fully discussed including when that injury happened & how much it bothered him down the stretch last year.
Eagles still managed to dominate TOP today at 34:16. Last year they were 1st in the NFL too (32:31) by a decent margin (next was Texas at 31:32).
I don’t think we’re going to stop throwing unless the run game gets a lot better.
The run game will get better only if Doug sticks with it. Up 13 he had an opportunity to do so. But abandoned the run early when he had no reason to do so. Idiotic play calling and design.
He got a real off-season this year.
We’ll have games where he only throws 25 time because the running game is working better and/or the team is up big in the second half and doesn’t need to throw the ball. Watching the game today I didn’t feel like Doug was calling too many pass plays given that we couldn’t run the ball when we tried.
I like the fact that Kirk-Cousins-face is in place to replace Eli-Manning-face when the time comes for him to step up. Good work by Cousins on that front today.
No high five parties today.
YOU LIKE THAT?!?!?
Sturgis hip injury not a concern, evidently. Peters on track to play next week. Ronald Darby potential mid-season return according to Dr. David Chao, depends on whether there’s ligament damage or not.
Just got done posting about Dr. Chao on BGN – he’s a quack (do a quick Google search and you’ll see).
Based on what we saw on TV, I’ve got to think he’s done for the year and I just hope it isn’t career-ending.
My understanding from friends in the medical field, doctors are human and make mistakes just like the rest of us and get sued more often than you can imagine. Not sure I’d call him a quack (yes I did read his timeline with the Chargers).
For a doctor to lose a med mal suit, he has to have goofed big time and more than once (on the same case). Juries have a strong pro-doctor bias and anti-plaintiff bias. Since med mal cases are extremely expensive to run and low%, getting sued and losing is a pretty bad sign. That being said, _hit happens.
Regardless of the past, he’s as reliable as you can be given he only works off the video
I’m not going to worry about the diagnosis of anyone who is not (A) a medical who (B) has examined Darby personally. Anything else is just uninformed speculation.
lol career ending?
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Chao is absolutely NOT a quack when it comes to discussing injury recovery times. What he got in trouble for has little or nothing to do what he does on twitter.
Regardless of the past, he’s as reliable as It gets, given he only works off the video
I probably should have been shanked in a Steelers/Redskins bar after that Cox “touchdown”. WOOOOO
lol, did you leave fast?
I believe I screamed loudly with my arms up, admitted that it was a bad call, and then screamed again with my arms up.
I was unaware that one could stock two varieties of stupid assholes in one bar.
Welcome to Virginia. There’s the bar down the street with the huge Confederate Flag on the wall with largely the same demographic. Then you’ve got 3 varieties.
Wasn’t much to do in the punt return game. I don’t know that any were returnable.
wentz makes plays but he is really bad when comes to the deep balls. almost always under thrown (plus that one where he over threw torrey later in the game)
Yes, that was the case today. In the past he has been long, and at times right on.
Last year he just overthrew everyone. It’s a simply a calibration test or so I hope..
The head coaching position in Indianapolis appears to be opening up. Any takers?
I can’t see a situation where they would not hire an offensive coach with Luck.
So, that rules you out then?
Not necessarily. I would just follow the James Franklin method to coaching…I’d hire coaches to coach and I would stick to recruiting;-)
OK, I’m at halftime on the replay.
One thing that stands out that I had not read yet, Breeland and Norman played very well at CB for the Skins.
I can’t believe how much pressure Wentz was under. It’s pretty clear he is something special.
I love, love, love the blitzing on defense.
On to the 2nd half
Small nitpick, but can someone explain why they went for 2 at the end of game? What’s the difference between a 12-point lead and a 13-point lead? The opposing team still needs 2 TDs. Failing the conversion would make it a 1 TD, 1 FG game.
Secondly, taking the timeout before the 2-minute warning made no sense unless it was coming down to a delay of game.
Wasn’t it because they thought Sturgis got hurt?
Oh Ok. I missed the end of the game and was wondering why they went for 2
Yep, so was everyone. In the post game pressed, Doug said it was because of injury.
13 point lead they need TD and field goal to tie, 12 point lead, need td and Field goal to win. no brainer on the 2 point conversion. kicking an extra point would have been the same as not converting the 2 point.
No. They had an 11 point lead; that is a TD and FG from tying. Getting the one extra point would make it a two TD lead. You normally want the one point there. Not much reason, unless you just want to practice a conversion play. Or if your kicker is injured, which may have been the reason.
Reposting this, because I seemed to hit the exact moment of a new post from T-Law.
Overall, I’m not really that impressed with our offensive scheme. Seems pretty vanilla and basically just uses the same things a lot from different formation and with different personel. Not really THAT unhappy with he play calling in general, just seems really limited and ends up having the offense being kinda obvious. Having some Chip Kelly flashbacks about just executing 4 running plays to each side really well. Not something I look back on with happiness.
I had hoped Doug would have spent more time this off season, adjusting and perfecting his playbook. The comparison will obviously come up a lot, but Doug needs to show he can do what Reid did so well throughout his tenure with us, and now is doing in KC. Created a great offense there, basically twisting everything from the bottom up to fit their roster. Not really a knock on Doug as the HC, more a knock on Doug the effective OC.
This is now me saying I want the KC offense BTW. Or necessarily the Eagles offense under Reids most succesfull years with us. I just want the feeling KC fans must have about their offense. Nor that i expect anything groundbreaking or want loads of gimmicky college things that no team has tried yet.
KC’s offensive line looks absolutely dominant. That’s going to make a lot of offenses look great. Ours… well, we rushed for ~50yds today, and our QB was under pressure all day.
While that is true, isn’t that just also vintage Andy Reid? The man had flaws and while it was sometimes infuriating drafting linemen in the first couple of rounds when we had no LBs, CBs or safeties, the man always had strong lines and benefitted greatly from it.
And again, its not that I want KCs offense. Sproles might do a decent Tyreek Hill impression, but we’re different. I just wanted more from Doug. I think some of our offensive struggles straight up comes from the coaching side, not because we lack players or execute badly. Not all of the blame, obviously, but I think theres improvements to be made. DOnt steal a good offense, make your own, suited for your own strengths is basically what im saying, and I think its kinda naive to just claim that us not being great offensively is because we dont have the personel.
This is not a fire Doug thing. This is more hoping that Doug develops into that coach. There was all shorts of talk about how Kyle Shanahans falcon offense last year now that they finally got his scheme. Bullshit. that may be part of it, but it was also a lot of adjustments and evolving from Shanahan. And a lot a good players, which help.
I see the wide receiver screen bullshit as Doug trying to manufacture a run game where we don’t have one. Problem is, Wentz can’t throw a swing pass to save his life. Couldn’t last year, can’t now. As with all things, the coach looks like a genius when things are going well, but looks stupid when they aren’t. They gotta figure out another way to make the ground/”ground” game work, because these swing passes aren’t, and our screens are found out every time.
Agreed.
My comments aren’t really a reaction to this game, more of some overall/macro kinda thoughts i’ve had for a while during the off-season while evaluating Dougs first season.
Also, I think its worth mentioning that Doug hasn’t had a lot of time, neither to build or develop the offense. I dont think he has found firm ground of what he wants to do.
Look at our RBs. Blount is one type, Smallwood and Clement another, Sproles and Pumphrey a third.
Look at WR. Alshon is huge and physical, Mack is huge but fast. Torrey and Gibson are speedsters, Ags in there as well.
You need players who do different things, but you have to find that expression and style you think will work, and Doug hasn’t had a lot of time to do that, even by NFL standards and considering we basically had/have to built an entire backfield and WR corps. Kinda had to built an OL too. When Doug got here, Lane Johnson was basically the only long term guy there. Reid is in his 5th year in KC and lets be honest, his first couple of years that wasn’t a pretty offense IIRC.
I have more questions about Stoutland than Doug right now. The line shouldn’t be this disorganized with everyone healthy.
Dave Spadaro: ‘I thought we had Aaron Rodgers out there scrambling and making plays’
Ridiculous caricature of a reporter although I do find him entertaining.
To be fair, that TD to Ags has Rodgers written all over it, from the swinging of the ball one handed to making a dangerous pass off balance with little effort.
Rodgers’ pass would have been a tight spiral.
Actually Wentz today reminded me more of early McNabb including lousy touch on short passes or in the flat.
Scrambling around and making timely plays even though McNabb was more of a pure running threat.
Just wish that Wentz would be willing to get rid of the ball a bit earlier if no one is open.
Ditto on making risky throws including that jump throw to Jeffrey into double coverage. He keeps that up and he’ll finish with 15+ INT this year.
To me the clearest comparison is Roethlisberger. Both big, very strong, but surprisingly athletic and elusive guys who are hard to bring down but look to throw first, second, and third and only run as a last resort. I think Rodgers is a bit faster and has better touch but is also easier to bring down if you get a hand on him.
I was specifically talking about the TD throw to Ags, not an overall comparison for Wentz.
Big Ben is a good one though, although I think Ben is a little more physical and Wentz is faster and more agile, even compared to a young Roethlisberger. Good comparison as passer though.
I’d say young Roethlisberger had a stronger arm that showed on deep throws earlier in this career than Wentz.
It isn’t a bad comp though.
Hi scrambling, yes, I can see that. His accuracy? nope. Not a question.
I still think Favre is the best comparison. Gunslinger. Takes risks. Makes plays he really shouldn’t and makes some dumb mistakes he shouldn’t. But, overall, wins games somehow.
To be fair, Wentz is much better than Rodgers was his 2nd year in the league.
Spadaro claims do have a bit of statistical validity today:
“Carson Wentz excelled under duress, completing 6-of-10 such passes for a career-high 117 yards and his 39-yard touchdown pass to Nelson Agholor in the first quarter. Wentz threw just one TD under duress in all of 2016.” (ESPN Info & Stats)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88a0150972f0c4b064a607e1fab1bc84b50a57d9b53fba0a6e4a1a4dec674b69.jpg
http://video.nfl.com/films/vodzilla/76942/Timmy_Jernigan_crushes_Kirk_Cousins_with-DTYHyuim-20170910_120636371_5000k.mp4
Yes.
Brandon Graham.
Cox got a lot of attention today for the TD fumble recovery but Graham was a beast today. Best Eagles’ player on the field today.
Reminded me a lot of last Sept/Oct when he was generating constant pressure and one of best DEs in the league.
Almost wonder if he will be like Cole who was such a great player early on in seasons but tended to wear down as the season went on.
“Kirk Cousins struggled to stretch the field Sunday, completing 3-of-13 passes thrown more than 10 yards downfield for 56 yards. His 23.1 percent completion rate on such throws was the worst of his career (min. 10 attempts). Last season, Cousins completed 56.1 percent of his passes thrown 10 or more yards, third-best among qualified QBs. (ESPN Stats & Info)”
Skins really missed Jackson today especially after Darby went out.
Almost seemed like a custom-made game where Jackson would have had at least one big play because he wanted to stick it to the Eagles.
Also kinda a big thing to keep in mind about signing Torrey Smith. Even todays stats aren’t impressive, 1 for 30, but I think you could see him stretching the field and making room. Have to find a way to hit him and use him in other ways, but he’ll have an impact throughout the season, that might not be visible on the stat sheet.
There was a play where Pryor got open just short of the end zone on a long pass and dropped it. That was a TD if Jackson was there.
Pederson will get Carson killed. Bad play designs, bailing out on running plays. and poor run play executions. Let the Pederson watch begin. Even in a win, he is on the hot seat.
Yeah including not pounding the ball inside the red zone with Blount and instead trying 2 pass attempts inside the 1.
Even Spadaro said he wanted to see Blount just get 2 carries there and just pound it as the Patriots did last year with Blount.
The WR screen on 3 & 12 that went no where and the shotgun stretch run with Blount on 3 & 1 in the 1st half should out as poor play calling too.
I bet your right about teams continue to bring the house and pressure often to see how his OL & Pederson adjust.
You sound less worried about Darby than I am but I guess Jalen Mills stepping up to make a huge pick can lend a little hope for this beleaguered secondary. If they can keep playing at a high level even w/out Darby they’ll need continued excellence from the rush and they’ll need to step up. So painful to lose Darby in the very first game of the season.
I asked this question after each of the 1st three pre-seasons, but can we “””now*** hit the panic button on the offensive line? They suck.
When Blount comes in on 1st down, this offense is way too predictable. It seemed like there were a bunch of run blitzes and 8 or even 9 games in the box at times too.
For a power runner too, Blount just tripped up/arm tackled at least 4-5 times today. Figure that a power back should be breaking arm tackles routinely especially if they the first tackler.
The thing with power runners is that you have to continue feeding them to wear the other team down. We didn’t do that and Blount couldn’t break off longer runs.
I wish the offense would play quicker. Why are the snapping with 3 or 4 seconds left on the play on almost every play?
I think Wentz is just taking his time at the line of scrimmage trying to figure out who is going to miss their block so he can plan his scrambles ahead of time.
Blount is supposed to be more of a second half of season runner. I thought the same thing today but maybe he’s a guy that gets better as he gets in better game shape.
I didn’t see him get arm tackled once. He did get tackled by his ankles/feet several times running through traffic.
I should clarify and say stopped/tripped up by an arm. Figure he would be able to plow through them especially in the 2nd half.
I was glad to see most of the run plays with Blount between the tackles though.
I went over to the other Eagles sites, why the hell are people hating on Agholor? Do they want him to remain a bust or something? He was the best WR on the field today and it even boggles my mind to say that.
I harped on Ags for over a year. However, if he keeps this up, I’ll gladly eat humble pie.
You gotta ignore Token. He’s always looking for the rainy lining in the sunshine.
Him and shah8 got blocked the moment that feature became available.
Good grief; I HATE Agholor’s production here over his first two years, but how can you rip the guy today?
It seems to mostly just be one guy on Kempski’s, One very vocal poster.
I try to ignore style points in week 1. Basically preseason week 5. Only thing that will matter from today when the season winds down is the notch in the win column, and if Darby is out for the season or not
Would have been an even bigger win if not for the flukey tipped pass interception TD return. That really kept the game closer than it was for a long time.
Nice to see the Scott Tolzien era is off to a great start in Indianapolis. 46-9 isn’t embarrassing.
Just finished watching the DVR of the game.
I watched the BG hit on Cousins at the end of the game frame-by-frame several times. It is pretty clear from the one angle that BG’s elbow hit Cousins elbow causing Cousins to lose control of the ball before his arm started forward. When he did start his throw, the ball was floating above his hand and his fingers just grazed the ball.
Terrelle Pryor does not have good hands and lacks concentration.
The defense game plan was just awesome and execution was terrific.
The offensive line is a mess. Doug should probably thin out the playbook.
Wentz looked absolutely awesome. It’s easy to nitpick his missed passes, but he had a 67% completion percentage. This isn’t 7 on 7s…it’s unrealistic to expect him to be much better after facing that much pressure.
Our RBs did not do a good job pass blocking today either.
I actually thought that was what happened, it looked like Graham hit Cousins’ elbow early and that made him lose his grip… I just wasn’t sure if he got the elbow before or after the arm started forward.
I liked the comment ” it looks like. …” And if it’s not obviously conclusive the call on the field stays
I feel like I saw good pass protection from RBs today actually, there were a couple of impressive ones that stood out.
The only nitpick for me is the two misses to Smith that could have been TDs
Add the end-zone jump ball to Jeffery that almost got picked off because it was underthrown. A little higher and Jeffery comes down with that every time for at TD.
Blake Bortles passed for 125 yards, yet the Jags beat the Texans 29-7? The fuck is happening.
Edit: Sweet baby jesus, the Jaguars had 10 sacks today. And the Texans none. So much for that vaunted pass rush.
But the Gus Bus left town, I don’t get it.
I wonder how many passes Wentz couldn’t step into his throws because of the OL.
I guess I’ll be watching my daughters playing soccer the next 7 Sunday’s afternoons.
Why?
Did you save the receipt? Can you have them returned?
Keep it up my good man.
I posted that earlier about ya and got 2 very qwick upvotes.
She’s probly very good so that will help.
Just for good luck.
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I got to listen to the game on Serius/XM and had the Washington announcing crew. Man do they stink.
Unbelievable, the Pederson haters writing for local papers used this game as an example of what Lombardi was talking about. After reading a particular column by a guy with the initials MH, you’d think the Eagles lost.
MH questions some of Pederson’s playcalling, in particular the screens to wide receivers. The fact is if there’s one thing I learned about Pederson is he attempts to compensate from a poor running game by keeping the defense off balanced. The fact is there wasn’t anything wrong with those plays being called, but the execution was lacking. Wentz, as good as he played, was far from perfect on those plays as well as the blocking.
The same writers cried when Andy did the same thing. Then they ironically say that Andy is smarter than everyone, when he actually is. Then they say it about Chip and mean it. Some people are funny man.
Except the Eagles have never executed those well, going back to Pinkston. Screens fine, but those? Ick.
But no way was that anything near a validation for Lombardi. Pederson is still fine.
That’s not totally true. The Eagles have had some success with that play. Going back to Pinkston, who couldn’t break my grandmother’s tackle is not a good example, especially when you are going back 12 years.
Reid continually tried it, and Kelly did too, and I’m hard pressed to think of many real successes. Lots of -1, 0, 1, 2 yard gains. The fumble one was particularly badly executed, and admittedly the last one was a good Jeffery block away from being pretty good, but… wouldn’t bother me to never see the Eagles run that play again. Helps to have a QB with a quicker release, which the Eagles have not had.
Another thing to take into consideration is under Reid and Kelly, at least the Eagles had a running back. With a decent running attack this type of play will not be called as often.
They missed 2 and hit 2 today? So…
It has become passe to rip media columnists but Marcus Hayes/Bob Brookover usually deserve their share of criticism.
If your team can’t execute that play to save their lives, then calling them is bad and you should stop doing it.
I don’t agree. If a play doesn’t work because of execution, you shouldn’t give up on it altogether. At least this way they know they need to practice it.
C’mon AGs !! Way to show up, way to be fast & athletic LIKE YOU ARE! !
Whata HUGE addition to the team.
stay after it man and have a fun and great career !!!
If he keeps that up, it’s like a third FA signing at WR but with no cap hit. Night and day. Sure helps to have the other teams’ corners focusing on other WRs of course, but he looked great.
Pathetic. Billionaire asswipe Spanos leaves San Diego because tax payers wouldn’t give him hundreds of millions of dollars and gets served some humble pie.
https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/906976838647468037
Er… that was Rams vs Colts. Not Spanos, but the other owner who ditched his city (St. Louis) for LA.
But I’m sure the Chargers will be similar.
Oops! Even worse for Spanos as they are the #2 team.
#4 after USC and the LV Raiders.
#5, don’t forget the LA Temptation.
the NFL is killing itself
I don’t know if it is ‘killing itself’ or if the owners behave the differently from other professionals sports owners.
Owners get the fans they deserve.
https://www.stubhub.com/los-angeles-rams-tickets-los-angeles-rams-los-angeles-los-angeles-memorial-sports-arena-and-coliseum-12-10-2017/event/9884628/?sort=price+asc
Where the F are those $6 tickets for our game out there?
Probably appear closer to the game when they don’t sell
But how can I book airline tickets and a hotel on spec????????????
Most hotels have 24 hour cancellation. You’ll be good there.
I’m not headed out for either game, but I like to demand utter surety at all times.
The Chargers have to play in the LA Galaxy 18k capacity stadium.
The Rams and shitbag Kroenke play in the coliseum.
Tickets for either Eagles game out there are still way too expensive!
And that’s clearly a picture of the stadium well after the game was out of hand. That game was clearly over in the 1st.
More pics here from early in the game…
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/nfl-fans-rams-colts-crowd-attendance-la-los-angeles
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJY4diXVYAARJLN?format=jpg
The scoreboard says its 0-0. Which means that had to be with 13:27 left in the first quarter.
Maybe they are late-arriving fans…
这个博客不简单，看了还想接着看。
“Pederson has two choices. Either coach the absolute hell out of those plays so that they are executed flawlessly 99 out of 100 times or quit calling them. My vote is to quit calling them, but that doesn’t seem likely. The timing on the plays wasn’t good. The throws weren’t good. The blocking was awful. I’m sure the plays make sense in theory, but if your players can’t execute them consistently, get rid of them.”
I’m glad Tommy said it. Those plays suck. Get rid of them.
what upsets me is he seems to really like that crap. Like he has a larger strategy built around those stupid plays. Oh ho, now that that was a complete disaster, we’ll fool them into thinking we are calling that play again, but it will in fact be a fake, and we will throw to someone else behind the line of scrimmage the other way!
He doesn’t seem to get the idea that those plays (bubble screens, jet sweeps, and variants of the 2) only exist for when you have someone absurdly dynamic with the football in their hands, and you are manufacturing extra touches for them. Otherwise get the ball to your guys downfield with the forward pass like god intended.
I like Doug, so it does pain me to have to think about how long it’ll take to get play calling stripped from him and given the Reich.
And you’re 100% that we lack a player to take advantage of those plays.
it’s more that torrey smith and alshon aren’t screen blockers
how about both. There are in fact, multiple reasons to tear those sheets out of the playbook.
They are important building block plays because all of them draw corners closer to the line of scrummage, which can help set up deeper routes later and can assist in the run game.
Chip executed them pretty well, and you should get 3-4 yards if everyone does their jobs and more if the defence messes up. Problem for the Eagles is Wentz throws them horribly – needs to get out fast and flat not the loopy way he throws them, and WR’s need to properly block.
calling those plays is fine – it helps set up other stuff, but on 3rd downs they are stupid if we struggle to execute them properly. Hopefully they get dialed back in the game plan for a few weeks until they can improve the execution.
We don’t really have a DeSean type to make them worth while however.
Smith is a good deep threat, and it helps not just on deep bombs, but the intermediate slants and other plays.
They are also good zone beating plays since it can be though to match up hat on hat, but Washing saw the formation and just played man.
SO EXCITED TO HAVE FINALLY BEAT DOWN WASHINGTON!!!
There was a lot to like today. Graham and Cox rushing the passer, the run D overall, tackling looking a lot more competent than last year. Wentz making some plays, big game from Ertz, big game from Ags, Sturgis was good on FGs. Mills and Robinson really battled and competed a lot harder than McKelvin or Carroll did last year.
What I didn’t like
-Lane needs to man the F up, that batted pass was 100% his fault and he didn’t block that well all day.
– The rest of the line was way too up and down
– Gave up a few 3rd and longs
– Watkins SUCKS. That long pass play to Pryor was 100% the fault of Watkins. Watkins shouldn’t have made this team, let alone be active over McDougle or Douglas.
– The only thing that sucks more than Watkins coverage is Pederson’s nonsense WR screen / swing pass calls.
So great to be 1-0!
I felt like i was seeing Watkins making a few plays ..
He downed a punt nicely at the 1, and had a nice tackle in support, but you absolutely cannot get toasted like he did by Pryor.
He sniffed out some sort of screen or swing pass very nicely. After watching our guys get blown up behind the LOS all day and most of last year on similar plays, for 1 play Watkins was Jesus Christ in my eyes. Robinson also got in on that action all game long. Seems like the DB’s are actually taught to tackle.
Not sure what Watkins was doing out there in man coverage, why was that his assignment? McLeod was serving as a traffic cone for both Pryor and Watkins to go around, don’t know what he was doing. Also we let Pryor beat us deep twice with no safety in sight. Once it was overthrown and once it was dropped (if I recall). That was disturbing, and that was early with a healthy Darby.
Okay, leave the Lord’s name out of this! In fact, leave Him out of it completely!
Pryor beat Darby pretty good earlier in the game, but thankfully dropped the pass. Pryor is a tough matchup, but hopefully his hands continue to be an issue.
Yeah, that was a bad drop.
But we’re talking bout Shaft
Pryor is the premier size/speed specimen in the NFL. He is gonna do that to a lot of people this year.
Not to get all Belichick, but on to Kansas City…………….
how y’all feeling about that game. I think we’ll get an even better pass rush, but God help us with Hill in coverage. Losing Darby robs us of a guy who can somewhat run with Hill.
And our line had better be ready to block some real defenders like Houston.
Unless we can get a run game going and/or get up early for one reason or another, it’s going to be tough sledding. Defense will keep us in it either way, I think. Arrowhead is going to be tough. CW will be running for his life the whole game, stay healthy, make a couple of those game-changing sandlot plays, we have a chance. Haven’t seen anything with consistency that says “this is what we reliably do well, and it will work on KC because this, this is how we win” The defense will keep us in. The football gods will decide whether to gift us a magic CW scramble TD pass, or if the defense or ST gets an extra touchdown to deliver us a W.
Arrowhead isn’t quite as tough as it used to be in the 1980s and 1990s.
KC overall and (home) under Reid:
2016: 12-4 (6-2 including a home loss to the Steelers)
2015: 11-5 (6-2)
2014: 9-7 (6-2)
2013: 11-5 (5-3)
23-11 at home (.676) and 21-14 (.600) on the road including the playoffs.
Why don’t the Chiefs have to cry and threaten to get a new stadium or they’ll move?
They have gotten their share of renovation money over the years at Arrowhead Stadium.
It’s no Foxborough, because they’re no Patriots. But that’s still pretty good. It’s almost as loud as Seattle. Which will make the offense’ job harder in a game they may be over-matched to begin with.
Brady at home: 120-22 (.833)
Brady on the road: 88-40 (.688)
Much tougher to beat Big Ben in Pittsburgh too during the course of his career:
Home: 76-25 (.752)
Road: 61-42 (.592)
Rodgers and Flacco have interesting splits:
Rodgers
Home:58-16 (.784)
Road: 42-36 (.583)
Flacco
Home: 55-16 (.775)
Road: 39-44 (.459)
Wilson:
Home: 39-7 (.848)
Road: 25-21-1 (.531)
Flacco has the biggest split difference among any NFL starting QB (min of 50 career starts)
Reid has never been a particularly impressive coach in regards to his home record including his time here in Philly.
Great and interesting research, as usual.
I still think it’s a big ask. Even if the Chiefs aren’t especially better at home (still darn good imo), we are especially worse away. Finishing 1-7 last season on the road. Compared to 6-2 at home
Reid isn’t coming off a bye although the extra prep time does help.
The Chiefs might be ‘smelling themselves’ a bit though after that victory in NE.
Chiefs’ defense is already missing Hali for the year and you can add Berry too. Peters is questionable already too.
Without Berry and Peters, that Chiefs’ secondary is mediocre at best.
I’m not worried. If the pass rush is strong again, Alex Smith is way too much of a check-down artist to stay in the pocket and throw deep.
I like your optimism. I just can’t remember when we’ve every played well in arrowhead.
1972 …
QB Pete Liske (a CFL refugee from Penn St) had 3 long TD passes and the 0-5 Birds upset KC 21-20 for one of their two wins on the season.
(I’m hoping the Birds won after ’72. But that one was unforgettable.)
Thank you sir! And we’ve lost every game there since then, right?
Just checked. Birds won in KC in ’01 and ’05.
yeah but did we look good?
In 2001, 23-10 win. McNabb had 112 QBR with 2 TDs. Averaged 10 yards per attempt. Staley ran for 80 yds. Cory Simon with two sacks.
In ’05, Eagles handed KC it’s only home loss that year — coming back from a 24–6 deficit to win 37-31. Another huge game for McNabb with 369 yds passing and 3 TDs. Shelly Brown with 2 Ints including a TD.
The ’05 game is one of my all time favorites. When the eagles were down big early, there was a clip of Hollis Thomas and Sam Rayburn having a great time on the bench. They were so confident that you would have thought they were up 30. I must have watched that one a thousand times. I’d probably still be watching it today if the TiVo hadn’t died!
Of course it took 2 minutes to find it on YouTube. https://youtu.be/B44kldABq-0
Why can’t I remember those wins? Maybe the vile choke in 92 there that seemed to wreck that whole season has left a permanent level of disgust in my mind.
Dave Kreig to JJ Birden. Ruined the year
I don’t think I’ve heard the name, Pete Liske, since 1972.
We’ve only played there 4 times in the past 45 years. We are 1-3 with the last lost being in 2005 by the score of 37-31.
Doesn’t mean anything.
My point exactly.
That half the game not to be worried about. I’m more concerned about the other half.
Jalen Watkins GOAT
You know Preston Smith and Kerrigan is some of the better pass rushers in the NFL?
Only the very fastest men in the world can kinda run with Hill. You contain him with the pass rush, not the coverage.
I don’t think I’m scared of the Cowgirls right now. Giants might still be a threat with OBJ against our CBs.
The Giants couldn’t block a toilet with a massive dump, let alone our d-line. We’ll slap them around twice.
Agreed – only thing i expect when we play the giants is excessive Eli Face.
Knowing us, our pass rush doesn’t show up that day.
Does this mean we can pump the brakes on the statements about neither us nor the Redskins being a play-off team, because neither Dallas nor NY looks like one today either.
God, some people on twitter were unbearable because we didn’t look unbeatable. I get that we weren’t great, but shit give the team a chance.
giants have no o line
More terrible NFL commercials. I don’t think the pregnant one can top the awful bengal baby family BS though.
Chevy “real people” commercials are the absolute worst. They insult the audience’s intelligence.
But now Mazda is doing literally the same commercial.
Accually a great idea … If i was writing ads id do an entire series of blatant copy of other ads but for my product. . .
It’s actually a pretty bad idea unless yours becomes the memorable one. Energizer Bunny was a ripoff idea, after all. But at that level of advertising, you’re not doing it to get your name out there. Think anyone doesn’t know what the fuck a Bud Light is at this point? It’s affirmational. You buy a Bud Light, see it in a commercial, subconsciously feel better that the product in your hand is the one on TV, and so you buy it again. If you were looking at a Chevy previously, and then saw that car, then you are more likely to buy the Chevy. Or now, you just think of Chevy’s every time you see a Mazda.
inb4 hurr hurr bud light sucks.
For the big boys, advertising is a way of preserving market share by crowding out thought space of the competitors.
Its a zero sum game of brand awareness, in that there is a limited time to expose your brand in competition with competitors. Plenty of studies have shown that simply ensuring that the audience is aware of your product and has it fresh in memory is enough to boost sales by influencing the consumer mind set in the lead-up to the purchase decision. It doesnt actually matter wether the commercial is good, or informatinve, or even makes any sense at all. What is being said and by who matters less as long as people look at it. As long as it is not emotionally offensive to the audience, all you need is to activate the logo and the name in the minds of your target group to acheive your goal. Which is why a picture of your beer bottle between two large breasts will remain the best marketing solution for any beer brand from here and to eternity.
Yup…the volvo commercial is pretty decent though
Especially considering that Chevy is a vastly over priced, low quality product.
The sad thing is they don’t actually insult their audience’s intelligence.
There’s no way they were paid actors, there’s even a disclaimer!!
I thought the one with various players and football field across all sorts of geography was pretty neat. Not a fan of the music but it kind of worked, I dug it. Of course I can’t find it because I suck at describing it.
Enjoyed the Josh Norman Samsung commercial at Dez Bryant’s expense. Can always get being that.
I’m glad we didn’t need to draft Jason Witten and the career “accomplishments” of LJ Smith really helped us so much.
Thats not Andy’s fault right .. no tears over missing earl Thomas any more, our pick instead is pretty impartant to this team
Graham is a useful NFL player; LJ Smith was a turd.
Ok. But i Remember asking a big college fan ( & Niners fan) about our LJ pick and he loved it ..at the time
But Rutgers isn’t even a big college program!
Nope. Witten no doubt wudve been a great pick for us
Dak Prescott is legit
no
We don’t talk like that around here. Go wash your mouth out with soap
Just like Aikman rode Smith and that OL’s coattails, Dak is doing the same thing with Elliott and the current OL.
Lets see next week, without Elliot.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=400951636
ESPN Football Power Index has the Chiefs at 74.9% right now. Interesting to see where this game opens at and if betters ride the Chiefs.
Imagine the Chiefs will be pretty strong favorites (-7 or -7.5)
I’ll take the Eagles at +8
Yeah i’ll play bookie on that one.
Witten 6-49 with a 1 TD. Just keeps going and going and going. NFL Energizer bunny.
Glad we drafted LJ Smith.
Interesting to see how Witten fares as the season wares on.
T. Gonzalez and Sharpe both were very good at 35 but they are real outliers.
Considering Smith hasn’t caught a pass since 2009, I’d say that any receptions by Witten this year are a bonus!
Please tell me that wasn’t the same draft.
Sorry, it was the same draft. We took Smith a round ahead of where Dallas took Witten.
I think I knew that at one point. lol..oh well. Never know what he would of been here. Butterfly effect and all.
Smith 2-61, Witten 3-69, literally the next TE taken and only 8 spots after Smith.
McCoy with 22 carries, 110 yards; 5 rec, 49 yards
Did that despite battling through a cold that had him questionable as of Friday.
Kelly did a lot of things to set this team back but trading McCoy has been a gaping hole that hasn’t been filled since then.
Eagles actually have had a lot of quality RBs over the years. You have go back to the late 80s/early 1990s when they had such a weak stretch of RB options over a 3-year stretch.
We love Shady ..but do we live him at 10M+ per year ??
Given what he has done since 2014, the answer is probably ‘yes.’
This offense was ok today even with the OL struggles.
Still wonder what this offense would look w/Cook at RB though. He would give this teams a lot more looks on 1st and 2nd down especially as receiving threat.
Opposing defenses are nuts to not stack the box even with 9 when Blount is in under a more convention formation especially on 1st down.
Make Wentz prove he can connect on a deep pass with some kind of consistency or that his OL can protect him especially up the middle.
There wasn’t a lot of room to run out there today for any of the RBs. I don’t know that having a a different guy with a higher draft pedigree would have done any better.
Everybody is riding the Chiefs but I was really impressed by the Raiders’ highlights and victory today.
Did a nice job defensively containing Murray and Mariota. Carr came back not looking like he missed a beat either.
Always a lot of talk about what player you would take to build a franchise around right now and I would take Carr over anybody in a heartbeat.
I’m glad you talked about those screen passes. They drive me crazy.
You could also call them laterals. .. because they end in fumbles
Glad we managed to escape with a win and save our season.
Agreed.
I wonder if Dez Bryant will eventually get traded. He just doesn’t seem to have any chemistry with Prescott (which is a good thing).
Interesting comment. . I was wondering how Dez looked ‘flat’ but maybe it’s part of flushing out the old regime
He had some pretty good game last year and is a game breaking talent. He had a poor game and they put up 19. It is incumbent upon their young QB to realize he is the best weapon they have in the passing game by far and to utilize him. Indeed lets hope he is too stupid to figure that out.
There is also the part were Janoris Jenkins shut Dez down twice last year too.
Can’t watch the Sunday night game due to Irma. Giants that bad or cowboys still really good
Giants bad, needs OBJ on the field to have a semblance of an offense. Cowgirls look overrated, I think they’re also a 10-6 team if they continue playing like this.
They didn’t play that poorly. If Elliott had been suspended those 6 games, they would have been overrated and maybe finished 9-7/10-6.
Only watched for a bit. Dallas offense is relatively simple, but the execution is fantastic. Zeke looks unstoppable out there on plays. I have no idea how they keep fielding a competent defense with that bunch of JAGs out there, but the DC needs a raise. Giants offense looked awful, and I don’t expect it to stay that way.
This text made me laugh from a college roommate who is a Bills’ fan (arguably more jaded and bitter than Eagles’ fans)
‘Buffalo controls it’s own destiny in the playoff race’
Lol wow. That’s awesome. How did you respond to that??
That is the logical equivalent of calling yesterday a must win game.
Free Fantasy Football scoop. Grab this guy asap. He’s everything I wish Pumphrey could be.
https://youtu.be/POTLTpOrUl8
looked like the game was going south when deadskins went up 14-13, but Birds responded, ended strong. Defense was great. Agholor looked good. Ertz looked terrific. I live in North Florida. Didn’t think I get to see the game, but saw most of it.as service went in and out.
You like that Kirk?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6428f2618496eb2569d47edc09fe843e1702d0899406a5c2b0d9b7e8437d8606.jpg
DC Area morning news: Showed the one play where our entire defense took a shit, and not a single other highlight. Then trailed off about the score quickly before moving on to the baseball scores. lol!
Do we have the whiniest fans in the NFL? Listening to 97.5… its pathetic.
You would think we had lost the way some people complain
wow wow wow…..escape a road game with a win…not perfect but for the first time of those players playing a full game — pretty darn good. Hoping, as T-Law pointed out, they(read Pederson) learned what works, what doesn’t work…
I disagree on “those plays”. The first one was a mess but running a new wrinkle on it was a shoestring tackle away from Nellie having another touchdown, and they got a first down anyway.
Definitely not a perfect game, but when is it. This was definitely a huge win, ntm season opener vs a team we havent beat in a while! It was a beauty to see Nelson with some confidence and Im psyched to see how much chemistry Wentz and Ertz have. Alshon will definitely bring one of those big deep throws in one of these games and it will be for a TD. Defense played pretty well and I think that is the biggest concern for us (besides maybe the run game?).
I agree with it been a huge win for us over a team that’s been giving us trouble for two and a half years.
Darby out 4-6 weeks.
That’s better than the whole season.