Butt-Kicking

Posted: October 8th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 479 Comments »

The Eagles didn’t mess around on Sunday. They were the better team going into the game and they played like it all game long.

Carson Wentz threw 4 TD passes, including big plays to Torrey Smith and Nelson Agholor. The Eagles OL controlled the line of scrimmage for much of the game and the run game was effective. The defense gave up nothing on the ground and made the Cardinals earn every yard through the air, until backups gave up some garbage yards late in the game.

And don’t forget about STs. Dave Fipp’s units dominated. Kenjon Barner had 110 punt return yards. Patrick Robinson blocked a FG. The coverage units were outstanding.

This was a butt-kicking.

The Cardinals were lucky to be 2-2. Injuries have really hurt them and anyone watching the game today could see how flawed Arizona is. They have issues on offense, defense and STs.

The Eagles played their first complete game of the year. It wasn’t perfect, but you saw the Eagles making plays where they had been close in recent weeks. You could sense this team was going to have a breakthrough game at some point. That happened Sunday.

Today’s win improved the Eagles to 4-1 on the season. They now have a three-game winning streak. They are 2-0 in the division and 3-0 in the NFC. It is too early to think too much about playoffs, but the Eagles are winning the right games and putting themselves in good position.

There isn’t a whole lot of time to celebrate this win. The team will play at Carolina on Thursday night in a battle of 4-1 teams. That is going to be the biggest game of the year so far.

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  • GermanEagle

    Again: DAK looks good…

    • SteveH

      We’ll give him this one. Green Bay isn’t even good enough to get hands on his butterballs to drop them.

    • Howie Littlefinger

      Worth noting he’s throwing against backup DBs

      I would take Wentz over him all day everyday and twice on Sundays but yes he seems like he is a good qb

  • mtn_green

    Wow just wow.

  • Ankerstjernen

    I’d just like to note, that the packers 5th round pick, RB Aaron Jones, has something like 6 yards/carry and just made an amazing sideline catch to boot. He was their 3rd string RB until this game. He runs between the tackles and splits out wide. I’ve already seen him chip the DE’s like a veteran. But we have Pumprhey, the 170 lb gadget players on IR, so no hard feelings here…

    • Forthebirds

      So after a 34-7 blowout, you’re talking about Pumphrey?

  • GermanEagle

    DONt get me wrong. I would always take Wentz over Dak, but the people who seem to wish the latter is not the real deal always cracks me up.

    • xeynon

      What do you mean by “the real deal”?

      If you mean “decent starting NFL QB”, clearly he is that.

      If you mean “transcendent player who can carry a team when need be”, no, there is no evidence of that. He’s had few opportunities where he’s faced that kind of adversity and when he’s had them he’s failed.

      He looks like a guy who will end up in the Eli Manning tier of QBs to me. Should be respected, nothing to be scared of.

      • ChoTime

        How many transcendent QBs are there in the league right now? 2.5 or so?

        • GermanEagle

          I take the under.

        • xeynon

          The norm is probably only 2 or 3, right now I’d say Brady and Rodgers, but there’s another tier right below them (the Wilson/Newton/Roethlisberger/Ryan tier) that I don’t think Dak belongs in either.

          • ChoTime

            I would agree, but I’d slip down Ryan and Cam down a notch and maybe move up Brees… well, maybe not anymore. I heard a talk-show guest say something I thought was clever. There are two types of QBs, trucks and trailers. Trucks can pull the team, trailers have to be pulled. He mentioned Ryan was a trailer, in other words he had to have things built around him to be successful. A high class trailer, of course!

          • Forthebirds

            I think Wentz is getting close to that second tier. He will be there by the end of the season.

      • Howie Littlefinger

        Eli Flacco with a touch of RG3…

        particularly the 1st season of the latter comparison. I think the plan should be to make him beat you.

        • Ankerstjernen

          This is it exactly. When the opposing teams gameplan should be to try and force them to beat you through the air, you know they are not starting Brady or Rodgers-caliber QB behind center.

    • A_T_G

      I will reserve judgement until we see how he does during Elliot’s suspension next year.

    • unhinged

      You will hear a lot of Dak dissing because every football fan not from Texas …and even some from Texas are sick of the “America’s Team” BS that floats in all directions this time of year. It may not be fair to him or even accurate but there’s a principle at stake.

      • Forthebirds

        Dak is a terrific young QB, but Wentz is terrificer.

  • Ankerstjernen

    So far in this game, the refs have gifted Dallas a TD with a bogus roughness call where there was almost no contact, Green Bay has lost their two starting CBs leading to completely broken coverages that makes Dak look like Rodgers more talented twin and missed not one but two extra points on flukey special teams plays.

  • ChoTime

    Carolina is a solid team. Cam isn’t a sitting duck like the last few QBs, and they aren’t depleted or low-talent. They have a good defense. Of course, I’ll be working and won’t get to watch.

    I kind of doubt Wentz puts up Peyton Manning numbers on Carolina.

    Was the offense’s efficient, smooth, non-butterfingers look today the new normal or a blip?

    • meteorologist

      It’ll be streamed on the Amazon’s video streaming app fwiw

    • Howie Littlefinger

      On short week doubtful. I’m at the point where I really believe this team has the ability to beat anybody on any day/night.

      Wentz is unbelievable and gives us a chance every game.

    • SteveH

      If we get Fletch back that will help a ton. Pressure up the middle will help keep Newton from scrambling.

    • Ark87

      And Cam looks like his arm is all the way back, didn’t look right at all early in the season. It’s going to be a tough game. Hopefully we show up and play our best game

    • scratcherk

      Carolina D is susceptible to the deep ball. Not exactly our forte but it can happen. Their o line is very suspect as well

    • Guy Media

      He holds the ball too long, their OTs suck, and their WRs aren’t fast. There are several favorable matchups for us vs. that team.

      Now Kawon Short vs. Kelce…………

    • D3FB

      Think we’ll have to switch up the mode of attack. They have really good DT’s and LBs. Meh at Edge and DB.

      • ChoTime

        Unfortunate, because I like this team better when it’s run first. Wentz is going to have to put on the big boy pants.

  • meteorologist
    • Guy Media

      Joe doesn’t know squat here. Dak is a game manager with unbelievable luck and way too much protection from the refs.

      • xeynon

        He’s right about Wentz though. I’m fine with Dak being Philip Rivers to Carson’s Brady for the next decade. 🙂

        • Guy Media

          I’d rather Dak take a huge injury and get exposed as a gimmicky fraud like RG3 and be out of football by year 5.

  • Nailed It!

    Dallas still sucks no matter what you guys say.

    • Howie Littlefinger

      Well yeah thats still a given. They are forever over hyped.

      Dak reminds me of a slightly better Kurt Cousins actually

  • SteveH

    There’s one of those butterballs from Dak. Though credit to Dez for breaking it up.

  • A_T_G

    So, did the Giants lose their top 3 WRs today? That’s horrific.

    • GermanEagle

      Top 4 actually.

    • SteveH

      Yeah… That’s too bad…

      • Guy Media

        tears

    • D3FB

      STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM GREG WARD MOTHERFUCKERS

    • ChoTime

      Somehow I feel sorry for OBJ, maybe because he seems more like a kid than a man to me.

      • Forthebirds

        Hate to see any player injured, but after the dog piss end zone episode, I’m all out of sympathy for him.

  • ChoTime

    not watching the game, but how crappy are both the GB and Dallas D?

    • Ark87

      GB is taking people out of the stands to play in the secondary, they just now started to slow Dallas a bit. This drive for GB is huge

      • A_T_G

        And people from the stands in Dallas are not great as GB corners. The only thing worse might be people from the stands in the cheese state.

    • SteveH

      They’re both crappy. And Green Bay as per the norm has even more injuries during the game. I’ve never seen a team so injury prone as the Packers.

      • Howie Littlefinger

        King looked good that one play he was in

        • SteveH

          Heh, the Packers could use a healthy secondary, their zone defense they’ve been forced into looks even worse than ours.

    • unhinged

      If Dom Capers was the EVER the DC in Philly, Jeff Lurie would be getting a constant earful. He must have some dirt on Ted Thompson.

    • Guy Media

      garbage

    • A_T_G

      Porta-potty on a construction site across the street from a Taco Bell.

  • Ankerstjernen

    I dont mean to keep annoying everybody with this. But is there a rule against calling holding or interference on Dallas’ CB’s It seems like there is a special rule against that. No? No special rule allowing Dallas CBs to manhandle opposing wr’s?

    • A_T_G

      There you go, sort of…

      They called holding when it should have been PI, giving the Pack 5 yards instead of at the 1.

      • Ankerstjernen

        Yes. Makes no sense. Holding is 5 yards. If these are the rules, we need to get Mills to just grab a jersey and pull these receivers down the moment they get behind him and the ball is in the air.

        • Will Ft. The Roots

          Its also a first down. Mills wasnt even bad today.

          • Ankerstjernen

            I think Mills is doing a tremendous job, all things considered. People get caught up in this storyline about his long speed. I swear, if he had run a 4.30 at the combine and played in the exact same way, everybody would be talking about how we stole a starting CB in the 7th round right about now.

          • Forthebirds

            He and the other DBs are playing better than anyone expected them to.

        • A_T_G

          The difference is if it is before the pass or while it is in the air. The CB literally let go in order to swat at the ball.

    • Guy Media

      The league is bullshit with how they officiate certain teams. Dallas, New York, and Washington happen to be 3 of them.

      • daveH

        Well our man Jason Peters seems to jump at least once a series. .. watched J Pier Paul life up in neutral zone repeatedly. .for called twice that i know of

        • Guy Media

          Who are you to question the world record reaction time of Peters?

          • Ankerstjernen

            He is so fast, he moves before the reflection of the snap reaches the camera.

          • Forthebirds

            The frame rate of non-digital movie cameras is 24 frames per second, which appears to us as normal speed because the human eye actually sees in 24 “snap shots” per second. Jason Peters moves off the snap in the equivalent of 40 frames peer second; Hence, the camera doesn’t pick it up, and the refs think he jumped off sides.I thought I back you up with the scientific explanation, which you probably didn’t want.

          • Ankerstjernen

            I was waiting for it to arrive from somewhere..!

          • daveH

            Ha! Just another one of his fans.

            I worry every time but then I say to myself, self don’t worry he knows what he’s doing.

      • Forthebirds

        The league wants the Cowgirls to win, but the girls just won’t oblige.

  • SteveH

    oooo the old flip 90, love the call.

  • SteveH

    How about that, the Packers start an actual running back at running back and suddenly the running game looks good.

    • Ankerstjernen

      Good thing we traded up to draft Pump in stead of getting this guy.

      • GermanEagle

        Just. Let. It. Go.

        • Ankerstjernen

          Hahaha. No! NEVER!

          • xeynon

            Look at it this way – if they’d taken Clement in the 4th round and Pump was the undrafted free agent, would you be upset with how things have gone?

            Every team has misses in the draft. Forget about it.

          • Guy Media

            I would because Clement had a UDFA grade on him.

          • Dave

            I’d say Doug will have a dilemma with Clement when Smallwood is healthy. Barner seems to be a better RB and will be fielding punts. Not sure where that leaves Clement on game day.

  • mtn_green

    The lazer to ertz for td can’t be defended. Seen it in a couple games now. Low lazer right at numbers over middle brutal and works great from 15 yard line on in.
    Fade to burton was beautiful and impossible to defend too.

    Can’t believe eagles can finally score in red zone, been so long.

  • Someguy77

    Yeah its early but . . .

    FiveThirtyEight ELO ratings went from 1550 to 1572; chances of making the playoffs from 61% to 75% after the victory today moved the Eagles to 4-1:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nfl-predictions/

  • scratcherk

    Now I’m legitimately concerned that the giants might go 0-16

    • Guy Media

      Whoever they draft will never get good blocking and be a bust as a result.

  • Ark87

    God, Rodgers is a gd sorcerer.

    “Jordy can you move in just a tad? Thanks”
    Wide open for a touchdown

  • Guy Media

    What an amazing win. We needed that badly.

    No we’re on to kill Cam week.

    • GermanEagle

      NOt sure about that. In fact it’s going to be first game of the season when I am like: just enjoy it. We have nothing to lose.

      • Guy Media

        I just hate that dude a lot. I don’t expect a win in a tough road situation, but I want a win badly because of how much I hate Cam.

        • GermanEagle

          If I could choose, I’d rather win against the Skins.

          • Guy Media

            Always take a division over a conference over a non-conference.

        • Dave

          You don’t like Icons and Entertainers?

          • Guy Media

            ding ding ding. And guys who run that much.

  • SteveH

    Now Burnett down. 2 more dbs out during the game. Someone needs to run a statistical analysis on Packers injuries over the last 10 years, I’m convinced it’s beyond coincidence at this point.

  • xmbk

    Nothing wrong with a 4-1 team thinking about playoffs.

    • Guy Media

      And still the #1 seed in the conference until we lose.

  • GermanEagle

    When does Bailey ever miss!?

    • Dave

      Speaking of kickers, Sturgis has to know he is gone when healthy. Maybe Howie can get a conditional 7th for him;-)

      • Guy Media

        I think they can absolutely get something for him because they can freeze him out on IR for as long as they want.

      • A_T_G

        TB?

  • Someguy77

    Spadaro had some interesting points in the 5th quarter post game:

    – Talked about how embarrassed and angry Blount was in the locker room & the day after the Chiefs’ game that he didn’t get a single carry.

    Blount has used that since as motivation and deserves credit for using it for that purpose instead of sulking. Blount has also been much more vocal in the locker room since then too praising other teammates.

    Big change of pace for a guy who has had a long-running rep for being kind of a mixed presence in the locker room.

    Spadaro it has helped the Eagles have been ahead the past 3 weeks including in the 2nd half and been able to use Blount more as the Pats used him last year. Suggested it was pretty ideal if Blount can continue to be used in that fashion while getting 12-14 carries/week.

    – Agholor does tend to disappear from a production standpoint but understands he will get his opportunities during a game. Unlike last year where Agholor dealt with confidence issues & disappeared on the sidelines by himself, he isn’t doing that this year. Instead he as played with a bit more of a chip on his shoulder since this summer.

    Now has 3 TDs in 5 games and has been a meaningful contributor this year.

  • SteveH

    Big hold there for the Packers. Getting a TD here by the Packers would put a lot of pressure on Dallas, even if they were to score a TD in response it would only take a Green Bay FG to win.

  • A_T_G

    How in Jerry Jones’ multi million phallic distraction, has no one suggested shades on the west-facing windows?

    • Ark87

      weirdly enough, I think it helped the defenders there. Your eyes adjust to the bright light. The Receivers on the other hand are constantly going from a dark room to blinding light.

      • Dave

        I would just wear an eye patch and quickly move it to the other eye when I get in the shaded area;-)

        • Ark87

          Only the Buc’s are allowed to do that

  • Someguy77

    First time in a long time I remember the Eagles showing some swagger and moxie during a game including guys who don’t do it – Ertz, Agholor, and Curry.

    Even that Smith TD was a team celebration was something that they had obviously planned out well in advance with 5 guys there including Wentz.

    If they can go down to Carolina and beat the Panthers in a physical style coming off a short week, I’ll be really impressed. Panthers beat up the Pats physically two years ago and embarrassed the Pats’ defense.

    Klecko added it was a ‘statement game’ and I completely agree.

    • Guy Media

      I agree; it was a very enjoyable game all day long.

    • xeynon

      Winning in Carolina would be more than impressive, it would indicate that they are truly one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference and a legit contender.

      • Someguy77

        Yeah especially since Cox will likely be out as well as Johnson.

        • A_T_G

          No Cox, no Johnson, no Smallwood? Do they have my wife updating the injury status?

  • SteveH

    If I’m the Packers I was going for it on that 4th and 1. Their D has barely been able to hold the Cowboys all day and have injuries piling up to boot. They need to put points up every possession.

    • xeynon

      Don’t think I do it from my own 28. If you don’t get that’s basically guaranteed points for Dallas.

    • Ark87

      I was with you, and then obviously you punt or how else can you get a pick 6?

  • Dave

    Yeah!

  • Guy Media

    Randall is a GOD for flipping the ball at that fraud Dak

  • scratcherk

    Suck it Dallas

    • Guy Media

      No. Beg to suck it and get turned down Dallas!

  • SteveH

    Nice off target throw Dak. Can’t drop a butterball if it’s that slow!

  • CTbirdsguy

    Troy Aikman: “This young man needs to grow up” eyyyyee rolllllllll

  • Someguy77

    Graham isn’t getting enough praise for having a great game again today. Very quietly has become one of the better DEs in the NFL even if he only had 5.5 sacks last year.

    Had 1 sack today along with 1 hit and 3 hurries. He is on pace for a 12 sack season although I bet he ends up with <10 as he fades a bit as Cole used to as the season progressed.

    • Guy Media

      Howie told him that he wasn’t getting paid more unless he produced more. It’s working well.

    • Dave

      Not sure about that assessment. He has been a monster for years. Outside of the Pro Bowl voting, other teams hold him in high regards.

      • xeynon

        I don’t know if I’d call him a “monster” – to me that’s a Julius Peppers/Michael Strahan/Von Miller type guy who will take over a game 3 or 4 times a season. Fletcher Cox is the only player we have in that category. But Graham is a very solid, consistent, high level performer.

        • Guy Media

          exactly.

        • Dave

          Those guys are/were perrenial All Pros. I don’t think Graham sniffs their quality of play. That being said, I still think he his QB pressures are underrated.

      • Someguy77

        Monster? Nah.

        What has been impressive is how much stronger he has gotten the past 2 years. His upper body strength is notably more evident especially when he uses a forearm move or even bull rushes a T now.

        • Dave

          QB pressures are not as sexy as sacks.

          • Guy Media

            nor as effective. Ask the DC

          • Dave

            Pressures lead to INTs.

          • Guy Media

            They do, but they’re not as good as sacks. Ask the DC.

          • Someguy77

            Understandable because the percentage of drives that end in a scoring opportunity when a team has a sack dramatically drops.

            INTs are pretty rare events

        • D3FB

          He’s always been strong, it’s just that he’s developed a more complete array of pass rushing moves making his power more viable. There was a stretch where all he would do is bull rush and everyone knew it was coming and it wasn’t effective.

    • Will Ft. The Roots

      Id say Patrick Robinson. He balled out today. He was able to keep up with AZ’s track team and break up some plays.

      • Guy Media

        Robinson did great work.

  • Someguy77

    Robinson played as well as he has at times in the slot and even outside today has been nothing short of shocking.

    This team has very little speed outside at CB without Darby but they generally tackle pretty well (not a fan of Douglas’ style) and have been able to get enough pressure upfront.

    Eagles invested a ton of money in the DL and it has paid big dividends so far. It is the defining characteristic of this team and every good-to-very good/great team generally has at least one.

    • Guy Media

      Bigger, but slower CBs, is going to be good enough for next week. I’m glad Darby should be ready for Washington.

      • Someguy77

        Did they say that? I thought he wasn’t going to be back until after the bye at the earliest.

  • SteveH

    bad timeout by GB, they might need that later.

    • Guy Media

      Not after they get another takeaway here.

  • Someguy77

    Merrill Reese made me laugh when Quick was talking about player names. Said he thought ‘Frostee Rucker’ was the most entertaining name in today’s game and Reese just deadpanned (‘for a snowman maybe’).

    It was a subtle thing but one of the things that makes him so good. Really going to miss him as much as I miss Kalas doing Phillies’ games.

  • SteveH

    Ughhhhh the Packers blowing 2 timeouts is killer right now. The Cowboys can almost run out the clock with a touchdown.

    • Guy Media

      or just turn it over.

      • CTbirdsguy

        one of these times it’ll work

  • Someguy77

    Is Dave Fipp going to be one of those incredibly rare coaches who goes from a special team coach to a head coach?

    Eagles have different players and haven’t missed a beat since he has been the coordinator. Incredibly underrated to have an advantage in special teams almost every week.

  • anon

    goff looks like the real deal

    • xeynon

      Having a coach who has any idea whatsoever what he’s doing coaching offense helps.

      No team that’s trying to develop a franchise QB should hire a defensive coach.

  • Guy Media

    These refs SUCK! That’s not a first down.

  • sonofdman

    That is a ridiculous spot

    • A_T_G

      Does winning the challenge really gain anything? Dallas doesn’t kick a FG, do they?

      • Dragon_Eagle

        Creates an opportunity, 4th down, to get ball back

        • Dragon_Eagle

          🙂

        • Ark87

          basically end the game, very very small chance though

        • A_T_G

          So, yep, definite was going for the reverse jinx there…

          • sonofdman

            Nice work!

      • sonofdman

        I guess it does.

      • xeynon

        It does lose him a timeout if it’s not overturned.

        McCarthy won a Super Bowl which gets him off the hook but he’s an underrated terrible game day coach.

  • SteveH

    Terrible, packers shouldn’t have to challenge here.

  • sonofdman

    he pulled it back on his own. you can’t give forward progress on that

  • Dave

    Damn, I just watched an interview with Donny. He makes Deuce look small.

  • Guy Media

    SIT DOWN ZEKE! AND TAKE YOUR SUSPENSION

  • SteveH

    YEAHHHHHH GO PACKERS!!!!

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Not done yet

  • SteveH

    Ahhhhhhhhhh goddamnit. Really. Fuck. The Packers need those timeouts.

  • sonofdman

    Once again, he pulled the ball back on his own and should not get forward progress.

    • A_T_G

      I was just going to ask that.

    • CTbirdsguy

      right…it makes sense when breaking the plane of the end zone, or when going out of bounds….but why does the ballcarrier get credit for those yards when he pulls the ball right back?

      • CTbirdsguy

        I guess forward progress was stopped, and the ball was at the 19 yd line, end of story

      • sonofdman

        exactly

  • Ark87

    Turns out it was a brilliant challenge

  • Someguy77

    Pederson at the Linc:

    8-2 overall
    3-1 vs NFC East foes
    +100 point differential (very impressive)

    • xeynon

      The evidence suggests that Pederson is a good coach.

      • kajomo

        Remember when people wanted McAdoo instead. Or Gase

      • Someguy77

        Starting to add up. Even with a loss Thurs., the Eagles have 3 winnable games at home (Skins, 49ers, Broncos) and then a bye.

        Things are shaping up pretty nicely to go into the bye at 6-3 (lose Panthers game and one of the home games) or even better which would be outstanding.

  • SteveH

    Fucking hell Packers.

  • Guy Media

    Big INT coming up

  • SteveH

    This is so painful. Especially that timeout wasted on defense earlier in the drive. What the fuck was that.

  • kajomo

    I know we are biased, but if heathy we are just flat out better than the cowboys. We can shut down the run game and keep pressure on Dak. Their defense cannot do the same to us.

    • Guy Media

      We had them dead beat last year until Pederson gave the game away.

    • xeynon

      We’ll get the chance to prove it on the field later this season.

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Dak should be channeling some of that Tony Romo 4th quarter magic about now.

  • CTbirdsguy

    Do the packers let them score here??

    • xeynon

      No. Why the hell would you let them score?

      • Ankerstjernen

        Maybe you realise your defense cant hold them and you just want to make sure there is enough time on the clock for Rodgers to do his thing.

  • SteveH

    These long gainers on first down are murdering the Packers… The way they are playing defense it’s like they want the D to try to win the game rather than Rodgers.

  • SteveH

    Probably the best possible result there. Packers get 1:13 and a timeout.

  • sonofdman

    at least there is still 1:13 left for Rodgers

    • xeynon

      The Cowboys’ defense is BAD, too.

  • CTbirdsguy

    two missed PATs for the packers…..

  • A_T_G

    I forgot how frustrating it is to root for a bad defense.

    • Someguy77

      How could you forget watching Eagles’ football for much of the past decade?

      • A_T_G

        Selective amnesia.

  • kajomo

    This is why you don’t go for that 2pt conversion.

    McCarthey is a moron. AR just makes him look good. Any other QB and he’d be fired years ago

    • xeynon

      Yeah, I agree, McCarthy is right up there with Barry Switzer as one of the worst coaches to win a Super Bowl.

      • Guy Media

        Brian Billick. Tom Coughlin.

        • xeynon

          Billick maybe, he was a supposed offensive genius who rode a historically great defense to a title. Tom Coughlin was a pretty decent coach.

          • Guy Media

            He’s a blowhard asshole who lucked into two titles and should have had his ass beat by a player for all of the camp Coughlin BS mind games.

          • xeynon

            He won a lot of games with the Jaguars before he ever went to the Giants.

            Obviously I didn’t like him when he was coaching an archrival, but he wasn’t a bad coach objectively.

          • Guy Media

            “Objectively?”
            Define please.

          • xeynon

            Measured by games won, division titles, playoff berths, etc.

          • Guy Media

            All cheating and luck.

          • D3FB

            I have no clue how he’s the same person who was the OC for that amazing.Vikings offense and was in charge of all those awful Ravens O’s.

  • SteveH

    Man, those missed PATs are haunting right now.

    • kajomo

      And the 2pt conversation fail

      • xeynon

        Good chance they went for the 2 pt conversion precisely because the kicking game is unreliable.

        • kajomo

          He made the a FG and previous XP. He would likely have made it

          • xeynon

            I’m listening to the Packers’ radio feed and they said there’s an issue with the long snapper.

          • kajomo

            It’s ok AR bailed them out again

  • Ark87

    just a field goal to go to OT, but even if they make it into OT, a coin toss might decide GB’s fate, don’t think they can stop Dallas when they are this tired and going this deep into their depth chart

  • Dragon_Eagle

    With those 2 XP misses, no FG try feels comfortable.

  • SteveH

    I dont understand an inside run there. Even if it busts you’re still calling a TO.

  • A_T_G

    Wow, was that risky.

  • Someguy77

    Prescott continues to play well and I wonder when the conversion is going to shift to the fact the Boys don’t have very good receiving options. They don’t have a single playmaker who can catch the ball.

    Bryant has a big mouth & ego but isn’t a big-time WR anymore. Witten gets open & is steady but has little speed & zero YAC. Beasley is overrated as a slot WR. Rest of the guys are nothing special.

    • Dave

      Bryant seems to be a shell of his former self.

      • Someguy77

        Injuries the past 2 years have really robbed him of speed. He can be single-covered now by a solid physical CB.

        • Dave

          He was never fast though. More more about body control and good hands.

          • Someguy77

            Burner no but once he got going he had good speed especially for someone his size.

      • A_T_G

        I will take credit for that. I took one for the team, drafting him in fantasy and assuring his mediocrity.

  • sonofdman

    I have no sound on. Did they say what is wrong with Jordy Nelson?

    • A_T_G

      No, just that there must be something wrong.

      • sonofdman

        Thanks

    • Guy Media

      F-ing thief stealing my money in fantasy.

      • sonofdman

        I have him and Rodgers. I wanted the double points, but I will take the Dallas loss!

  • Guy Media

    DIE DALLAS DIE

  • SteveH

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK THE COWBOYS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Dave

    I’m going to sleep well tonight.

    • Howie Littlefinger

      We all are. For today the good guys won and the bad guys lost

  • Ark87

    Aaron Rodgers is a bad man

    • xeynon

      Aaron Rodgers is what an elite QB looks like.

      Dak is not.

      • Howie Littlefinger

        Your absolutely right. Fair or not I almost expected it and said as much when he had a minute left and a timeout in his pocket

      • Someguy77

        Not a fair comparison. Rodgers is All-Time QB and I don’t get the hate Prescott continues to get here.

        He played well today and the Boys’ receiving corps don’t impress me in the least.

        Eagles should match up with them pretty well especially if Darby is back.

        • Guy Media

          Dak is an overrated game manager who has been gifted an all pro line and RB along with a strong WR corps w/ favorable officiating from the league at all times.

          • Someguy77

            The Dallas WR corps isn’t that good and the Eagles might have a better group especially with how well Ertz has played.

          • Guy Media

            So? Wentz is vastly better.

          • Howie Littlefinger

            LMFAO u serious guy?

        • Howie Littlefinger

          Dak is ok. He is not Eite. Its the Dallass over hype that gets Dak hate

        • xeynon

          I don’t hate Dak, I just hate all the slurping of him the media does. He’s a top 15 QB, which is pretty good. He’s not an elite player and I get fed up with people saying he is.

          • Someguy77

            What does ‘elite player’ mean though? I would put him the conversation for Top 10 at QB right now especially given how some veterans have looked early on his year including Manning, Big Ben, and Rivers.

          • xeynon

            I don’t know what “elite” is, but I do know the Skip Baylesses of the world won’t shut up about how it applies to Prescott.

            I’d define it as maybe top quartile, a guy who’s a perennial All-Pro or at least will perennially be in the conversation for All-Pro. Prescott isn’t in that class to me, at least not yet.

          • Someguy77

            Skip Bayless is an entertainer at this point and I don’t tend to put any stock in what he has to say.

            I doubt he actually believes half of it. Just his shtick & it has made him an incredibly rich man. Kind of like Eskin in Philly. Long ago stopped doing reporting and breaking stories.

            Instead he has a gimmick that kind of flamed out here several years ago when he lost his primetime radio slot.

        • ChoTime

          Recall the same thing happened with Romo, until Romo got broken and wasn’t threatening anymore.

          One difference is that Romo was, in fact, elite, even if he had a punchable face.

  • Patrick

    Aaron Rodgers is approaching Madden 04 Mike Vick levels of unfair.

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Another last second back-breaking loss for a division rival. I’m having fun this season.

  • SteveH

    I’m loving how happy the Cowboys were after Dak scored, and now they’re crushed.

  • Dave

    Joe Buck talking up Mike McCartney…yuk. He is a horrible coach riding the coattails of HOF QBs.

    • kajomo

      100 upvotes

    • Guy Media

      Joe Buck is slime.

      • Dave

        He looks like he’s trying too hard to be trendy with that scruff.

        • Guy Media

          I wish somebody would slap him so hard that the scruff would fly off.

      • Howie Littlefinger

        My son is just getting into football but has always hated dallas. He asked if Buck was a cowboy fan…

        I said yes and I think he’s a Aikman fanboy as well lol

        • Guy Media

          And what’s still funny is that Aikman calls a fair game.

          • Howie Littlefinger

            He tries but he is obviously biased. I don’t hold it against him tho

          • Guy Media

            I think he’s actually really fair during Eagles / Cowboys games.

          • Howie Littlefinger

            I think he over compensates. Before I knew who he was I knew he liked the cowboys. He is mindful of his biased but it definitely shows.

            Like I said I don’t fault him for it.

          • Guy Media

            I really don’t see any from him other than Cowboys-centric anecdotes.

          • xeynon

            I actually like Aikman as a color analyst. He’s not the very best but he’s pretty good.

          • Someguy77

            Yeah I like Aikman too. Collingsworth is good too when he doesn’t stuck on an issue or two or into one of his diatribes.

          • Guy Media

            Or try to sell his fake “stats” from Pro Football Fraud.

          • fran35

            Yep, as much as I hate saying it, Aikman has always been good

          • Guy Media

            Agreed. I hated him as a player, but I like his color work.

      • Someguy77

        Don’t get all of the Joe Buck hate. Like him as announcer even if he does get a little flat at big moments especially in the MLB playoffs.

        • Guy Media

          He talks over the color guy who needs to be explaining things CONSTANTLY. He’s smug, anti-Philadelphia in his glee in calling plays that hurt us, is Artie Lange’s / Justin Timberlake’s property, and generally comes off like a douche.

          What’s there to like?

          • Someguy77

            Every fan base claims he is biased against them. He does talk a bit too much over his color guy but all of the prominent football announcers have had a history of doing that including Madden when he was with Summerall. Al Michael used to do it with his announcers too.

          • sonofdman

            Madden was the color guy.

          • Someguy77

            He was the personality guy though who did most of the talking. Different dynamic.

          • sonofdman

            That’s the point. Joe Buck has no personality and he still won’t ever shut up. He is the play by play and constantly talks over the color guy. Summerall never pulled that shit with Madden.

          • Guy Media

            Madden knew what he was talking about however. Joe Buck is absent of knowledge in two sports.

          • FairOaks

            Uh, Madden was the color guy.

        • Dave

          He just truly doesn’t seem to enjoy football.

          • FairOaks

            I dislike Buck in baseball as well, if that helps.

          • Someguy77

            Actually dislike Buck doing baseball more than I do football.

            There are times the last few years in the MLB playoffs that I would say he seem ‘disinterested’ in early round games.

          • Dave

            I need some kind of emotion in my sports announcer’s voice. The monotone is what I want from my doctor, not my entertainment.

          • Crus57

            I like Buck doing baseball for the simple reason that it means he is not doing football.

        • Tumtum

          Well to put it mildly he is a Troy Aikmen dick rider, and Troy is a blatant hater of the Eagles and Cowboys lover. He wouldn’t even talk when the cowstains were blowing that 4th quarter.

          • FairOaks

            To me, Buck favors the Cowboys far more in broadcasts than does Aikman, who I think is remarkably balanced (yet who has far more understandable reason to be a little biased).

          • Guy Media

            Correct. Aikman = fair / skilled. Buck = trash.

          • Tumtum

            Aikman isn’t as blatant as Buck, but if you couldn’t sense his anger at the end of that game you really will never notice it. Buck kept trying to hand it over to him, and he didn’t say a word for like the last 5 min of the broadcast. Buck is more overt because he wants dad’s approval. I wouldn’t say Aikmain’s bias is at all reserved though.

        • A Roy

          He got the job because his father was a hall of fame announcer and a gentleman. Then, he acted like he earned it. (I actually like Aikman as an announcer.)

        • ChoTime

          I started hating Buck in the Randy Moss game.

    • Tumtum

      Seems like a good coach to me..

  • Ark87

    That Packers defender that didn’t realize a lateral is a fumble if no one catches it, just standing there with the ball like “We won”

    Scared the shit out of me

    • sonofdman

      Shouldn’t that count as a lost fumble for Witten? I am playing against him in fantasy and want those points taken away.

    • SteveH

      Me too, though I think the Packers guy might have thought he was giving himself up. IDK. Still not smart.

  • SteveH

    I just texted this to my Cowboys friend

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKdcjJoXeEY

  • kajomo

    Wish the Giants won, but it’s never bad when we win while no other NFCE team was able to manage a win for 2 weeks in a row

    • Guy Media

      I’m glad the Giants lost. I want them so demoralized that they blow the whole team up this off-season and continue to suck for another 5 years.

  • Howie Littlefinger

    I really enjoyed how annoyed Aikman sounded when he had to mention Philly with a blowout win sitting atop the division

    Good times 🙂

  • xeynon

    Crushing, gut punch Cowboys losses are the best Cowboys losses. 🙂

  • Dave

    This touched my heart.

    https://i.redd.it/0ynf52ayrupz.jpg

    • Guy Media

      So wrong / so right.

    • or____

      I cannot condone this at all. That’s wrong.

      • Dave

        I was just told what the actual photo was from…truly horrific. I deleted the post.

        • or____

          Good. Go birds but that’s never ok to joke about, period.

        • Tumtum

          aww I’m so curious

  • SteveH

    Oh man, this is glorious. 2 games up on the Cowboys this early? Am I dreaming? It would have been hard to imagine a better start to the year!

    • Ark87

      I remain more concerned about the Washington, beating them again will be critical. But first things first, Carolina

      • Guy Media

        We get 10 days post-Carolina to prep for Washington. That’s huge.

        • wee2424

          Very true. Haven’t thought of that.

          • Guy Media

            Benefit of playing Thursday, just wish our Thursday game was at home.

  • SteveH

    Oh and! Lets not forget Dak’s crushing pick 6! Glorious.

    • A Roy

      Truly a thing of beauty.

  • Someguy77

    http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/10/08/vice-president-mike-pence-colts-national-anthem-protest/744447001/

    More considerable hours wasted this week talking about what was a pure political stunt which was prearranged on a distractionary topic.

    Instead it distracts focus from the bills about Puerto Rican relief and debt, tax plan, or even Iran nuclear deal which has an important deadline approaching on Oct 15.

    • SteveH

      Not even the competence to tweet out a different picture. Not that it matters, the honesty of the messaging matters not with how divided our society is along political lines. People who believe the players are disrespecting the flag or the vets or the country or whatever it is they believe will eat this up.

    • Guy Media

      All opinions welcome on the Niners protesting, but nobody is welcome to be shocked by it and act like they didn’t know it was taking place. Jed York needs to condemn Pence strongly.

    • fran35

      Wait, I have an idea! Being that this is a football blog, and you are leaving a comment—-ostensibly discussing Tommy’s subject matter–why don’t we just go ahead and open a political discussion about a matter that has no pertinence to this Eagles win whatsoever? Because I definitely enjoy my sports with an overwhelming stench of politics.

      Whether you are on either side of the fence politically, sports should be a relief from the nonsensical world we live in. Any chance we could check the political agendas, and pretend that the Eagles winning and being 4-1 matters?

      • Guy Media

        It isn’t hard for you to downsize the part of the thread in which you’re not interested.

      • laeagle

        Is this directed at Mike Pence?

        • Guy Media

          Ha

      • Dude

        I’m somewhat with you on that, but this blog does a good job of containing it to 1 or 2 threads. It becomes a headache when it gets needlessly interjected every other comment.

        • Guy Media

          Which I don’t think folks do here.

  • Tumtum

    I want Cam!!!! We need Cox for this Thursday!

    • kajomo

      Thursday is a really tough spot and objectively I think we lose. In the grand scheme of things a win is huge, but a loss is not that big of a deal. We need Cox and Darby on the field for the Skins game. That game is extremely important. We win that game and we are almost on cruise control to the division title.

      • Tumtum

        So I thought we would lose at SD. I felt super confident about this game, which meant I felt we would ACTUALLY lose. Now I think Car should be a good match up and don’t have a sense. Why do you think we lose?

        • kajomo

          Short week on the road is really a big obstacle to overcome. Our pass rush has not been anywhere near as effective with Cox out and I expect him to miss this game as well. You beat Carolina by hitting Cam.

          I think it will be similar to the KC game. We hang tough for 3 quarters before these things become too much to continue to overcome.

    • Guy Media

      You’ll get Darby and Cox back for the Monday nighter vs. Washington. I think Thursday is too aggressive of a timetable for Cox.

      • Tumtum

        🙁

        • Guy Media

          It sucks, but I don’t want to rush Cox back if he’s at risk of reinjury. It isn’t like he’s known as a guy who milks injuries.

          • D3FB

            wait what. you’re actually being rational about an injury?

            WHO ARE YOU?!

          • Guy Media

            Cox has earned the benefit of the doubt as he never been flamed for “pain tolerance” issues.

          • D3FB

            Beau Allen tore his pec weightlifting and you flamed him.

          • Guy Media

            Because it was NFI and away from the team. Get injured in a f-ing game will ya.

          • D3FB

            I’ll let him know in the future he should only use light weights when working out.

          • Guy Media

            No, he only needs to get injured while playing. This also applies to practice injuries, car accidents, illnesses, etc. Dumb luck stuff can happen to 31 other franchises. I’m done with it here.

          • Tumtum

            For sure.. but I feel like we need him.

          • Guy Media

            We totally do.

  • SteveH

    Looks like the Rams came back down to earth a little bit today. Seahawks are a tough opponent but it was a road game for them, where they’re significantly worse.

    Raiders lost with EJ Emanuel starting, not a huge surprise.

    • Guy Media

      Odd that Seattle was on a bad losing streak vs. the Rams, but won today.

  • TO BLACKS

    Jeffrey sucks. No wonder he was let go by CHI.

  • Guy Media

    Head – Thursday road game on a short week vs. a decent team = loss
    Heart – KILL CAM! MAN UP! TAKE CONTROL OF CONFERENCE TIE BREAKERS!!!!!!!! = WIN OR CUT PEOPLE!

    • Ark87

      If we win the next 2 games, all aboard the hype train. I will abandon all rationality until I’m stumbling out of the burning wreckage

      • Guy Media

        I’m perpetually hype, but objectively they’re in a bad spot at Carolina. But wins back here at home vs. Washington, San Fran, and Denver should be in order. Get us to 7-2 going into the bye and beating Dallas coming out of it……….then we’ve got some real hype.

  • Insomniac

    The top 2 leading rushers are rookies. Hunt and Fournette. Cook might have been right behind them if he didn’t get injured. When was the last time that 3 rookies were among the top 5 in the league at their position?

    • Guy Media

      What I love it that there are a few guys here who will find out and tell you.

      • Insomniac

        Paging ACViking

        • Guy Media

          He’s a treasure.

    • FairOaks

      Don’t think it’s happened at least since the late 1970s.

      If you go all the way back to 2016 though, Zeke Elliott was #1 and Jordan Howard was #2. Jay Ajayi, who didn’t start a game his first year, was #4 in his first real year starting.

      2012 had Alred Morris (#2) and Doug Martin (#5).

      1983 had Eric Dickerson (#1) and Curt Warner (#3).

      I think those are the only years since 1977 or so which had even two rookie rushers in the top 5. Doesn’t look likely to happen this year either, though. Last year may match this one on that score. The 1983 one may be more impressive overall though — there was some stiff competition with established backs that year. Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Tony Dorsett, Ottis Anderson, John Riggins in his best year, etc. Atlanta’s William Andrews (who I don’t remember at all) was #2 that year; looks like he didn’t play the next two seasons at all. Looks like a knee injury the next preseason effectively ended his career.

      • Guy Media

        The real Curt Warner!

    • Donald Kalinowski

      I hope Barnett and Jones end up being really good players. Dalvin Cook would have been a great fit for this team.

      • Guy Media

        or a prison cell

  • Dave
  • Guy Media

    I have 3 Steelers friends who are apoplectic right now. Evidently Ben gave a real quitter set of quotes today. Y’all think he’s/they’re fried?

    • xeynon

      JFC… he’s been a top 10 QB for more than a decade and won them two Super Bowls. What more do they want?

      • Insomniac

        three Super Bowls and playing defense.

      • Guy Media

        I don’t think anybody saw the Steelers doing anything other than making another deep playoff run again, did you?

    • Insomniac

      Throwing 5 picks probably made him think of retirement again.

      • Guy Media

        He was VERY morose at his locker.

        • Insomniac

          Probably realized he had to live near Pittsburgh for a majority of his life as well.

          • Guy Media

            True. Total armpit.

    • Bert’s Bells

      Screw that rapey MFer.

      • Guy Media

        Yeah, that’s never going away.

    • Dragon_Eagle

      I hope you’re grinning like a madman at your Steelers fan friends.

      • Guy Media

        Only the one who is also a Pens fan.

        • Dude

          My wife is a Steelers fan. It’s a lopsided household today.

        • CrackSammich

          I’ve been getting heavy milage out of the screen shot of their 10-1 loss last week.

  • Mitchell

    The Eagles are winning against other teams like other teams used to win against the Eagles. It is a good time to be a fan! I like how this team is playing.

    • Guy Media

      Today was so much fun.

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Any updates on the head injury to Lane Johnson?

    • Guy Media

      Lane claims he’s fine, but he had a concussion, so good luck being cleared by Thursday.

      • Dave

        I could be wrong, but Vaitai seemed to play well today in Lane’s place.

        • Guy Media

          You’re not wrong.

        • A Roy

          Listening on the radio, the only thing I noticed was that they seemed to run left more than usual.

        • xeynon

          I was watching Vaitai closely – he’s fine. He’s not the dominant player Lane can be but he’s a competent right tackle.

          • Dave

            I guess the question becomes, can he develop into the right tackle of the future once Lane flips to the left side.

          • Guy Media

            We need him to.

          • D3FB

            He can be solid starting RT.

            I’d still prefer them to spend the first on a T as we’ve seen the value of having bookends, but if they go a different direction and just bring in somebody in the 4th round to compete with him for it they’ll be fine.

          • Guy Media

            Your boy from ND going to be there around pick 25-28?

          • D3FB

            Maybe he’s been really really inconsistent.

            He’ll be great in the run game and can be as good as he wants in pass pro but just has 3 or 4 plays a game where he just completely misses.

            He’s basically a better run blocking Jason Spriggs.

          • Guy Media

            Good to know.

          • D3FB

            I’m a big fan of Braden Smith from Auburn but they keep having to move him back to G because of the guys around him.

  • Guy Media

    Wow, Watt. That guy cannot stay on the field.

  • A_T_G

    Watt has the look of a guy that knows his season is over, but isn’t riding off the field on a cart.

    • Guy Media

      Tough guy, but way too fragile.

      https://overthecap.com/player/j-j-watt/1669

      He’s removable via cut at any time after this year if they wish.

      • A_T_G

        Yeah, right. There are more 99 jerseys in Houston than there are people. If they cut him they may as well move the franchise to LA.

        • Guy Media

          Not
          For
          Long

  • teltschikfakeout88

    So has Barner finally won a job on ST’s…or what?

    • Guy Media

      Even I have to admit that. With Sproles gone, Barner is the best PR option.

      • teltschikfakeout88

        The guys has made plenty of plays in ways you would expect of a fringe player…shown out in preseason many times now….been on the street since final cuts and was in great shape…quit messing around and let’s roll with this guy…I know the cards ST are bad but we have endured worse…like Reno mahe….hope we can draft a good KO/WR love is the dude from Uni. Washington…

        • Guy Media

          I’ll keep an eye on that once we switch over to draft mode.

          • teltschikfakeout88

            8 punt return td in his career and is tied for the record with…..Wes Welker….got the rest of the year to break it….

        • Will Ft. The Roots

          Dante Pettis? He’s not a bad WR either

          • teltschikfakeout88

            Yup

        • wee2424

          Wont happen, (coaches would have tried it by now in practice at least) but I would like to see Hollins at KR. Good hands, great size and speed, quick feet, very smooth, physical, and is known for YAC. I know it seems “Maddenish” but you can’t say it doesn’t sound intriguing.

      • Tumtum

        Proud of you.

        • Guy Media

          That doesn’t change the reason why he wasn’t needed on a team that had Sproles, but lacking any other PR on the roster……………it is what it is. Still can’t use him that much as a RB and especially not as a pass “catcher” but he has a job through the end of the year.

          • ChoTime

            Admit it, the guy’s a decent player. Time to choose a new whipping boy!

          • wee2424

            He is our best pass catching back with Smallwood hurt. Not saying he is great at it, but yeah…

      • wee2424

        Yes he is, and if Smallwood keeps getting hurt he is also our best receiving back. We could do worse at PR. He reminds me of a more explosive Mahe.

      • laeagle

        MY MIND JUST EXPLODED LIKE IN THE RUNNING MAN

    • Masked Man

      Barner was dynamic in the return game. Returned for 110 yards today. Very solid in spot duty on offense. Five carries for 23 yards. I think he earned a spot on the team. LG, Smallwood, Barner and Clement in committee looks a little crowded. But that’s a good problem to have.

  • Guy Media

    Could KC please stop dropping INTs!

  • A_T_G

    KC ran a trick play where the OL were all standing and pointing when the ball was snapped. Why isn’t that a false start or illegal formation or something. Don’t the OL have to be set and still?

    • Guy Media

      Nobody on Houston went nuts at the refs, so I’m guessing not.

    • Tumtum

      Didn’t someone do that vs us last year? Or was it the Chiefs that did it? As long as their feat are set the ball can be snapped. If their hands are set then they can move them, I think.

      • Tumtum

        Wait.. did we do it??

    • D3FB

      As long as you’ve got 7 on the line, nobody is moving except for one player motioning you’re good

      OL were set and still, just not in stances

  • A_T_G

    Nice tackle by Watson.

    • Guy Media

      He should consider a position switch.

  • SteveH

    So McManus was predicting an Eagles loss today…………………… Is the Howie hatred clouding his judgment that severely? The Cardinals guy he was doing the predictions with had the Cards losing by 10.

    • Guy Media

      The whole combine Inquirer and Daily News staff all picked SD as well. Their pre-fear of inferior teams is just a bad as that segment of the fan base’s.

    • ChoTime

      The Cards had our number for a long time, and a lot of Igglesblitz commenters were quite negative too… or perhaps I’m misremembering things!

    • BlindChow

      There were plenty of reasons to think the Cardinals could pull off a win (which I’m sure McManus enumerated, if you bothered to read it): crucial injuries on our defense, speedy receivers vs. our slow secondary, Cardinals’ stringent run defense, the Eagles’ (previous) inability to play defense in fourth quarters, just to name a few…

  • Guy Media

    Really KC?

  • Dave

    I forgot how young JJ Watt is. At 28, he never missed a game in his first five years but missed 13 last year and was taken to the hospital tonight and looks to be missing significant time again this year.

    For comparison:

    Strahan played until he was 36 and missed 15 games, all coming after age 33.

    Julius Peppers is 37 and missed 2 games in his entire career.

    Reggie played until he was 39 and missed 5 games.

    • Guy Media

      Yeah, he’s been falling apart lately.

    • GENETiC-FREAK

      Wow! Those are some iron men playing that long with limited games off.

    • wee2424

      Wow, I’ve heard his name for what feels so long now that I just assumed he was 30.

  • sonofdman

    Andy Reid is killing me with this Charcandrick West crap. Give it to Hunt.

    • Guy Media

      True.

    • Dave

      This is the first year in over a decade that I am not playing fantasy football. I find football so much more enjoyable now…wish I would have given it up years ago.

      • bsuperfi

        Ditto for me. I think I’ve been playing every year since the early 90s. I used to score our league by hand with a USA Today because it had the best box scores.

        It’s SO much better not playing fantasy this year it’s ridiculous.

  • Tumtum

    In light of ODB breaking his ankle.. I’ll drop the avatar.

  • SteveH

    Just had another awesome thought. By crushing Dallas’ hopes and dreams today, Aaron Rodgers not only made Dallas lose, but also Dak can’t be the hero of the game now. He would have had the “game winning” touchdown, and Rodgers denied him that.

    I grant the Packers and Rodgers honorary Eagles status for the week.

  • P_P_K

    When it comes to butt-kicking, ’tis better to give than receive.

  • Someguy77

    Last 3 weeks – RB carries:

    Today: 26 carries, 114 yards (4.4 Y/A)
    vs Chargers: 36 carries, 200 yards (5.6 Y/A)
    vs Giants: 33 carries, 171 yards (5.2 Y/A)

    95 carries, 515 carries (5.4 Y/A) total.

    Blount – 42 carries
    Clement – 23 carries
    Smallwood – 22 carries
    Barner – 5 carries
    Sproles – 3 carries

    Yeah the Giants (29th in YPG; 23rd in Y/A coming into today) and Chargers (32nd in YPG; 29th in Y/A coming into today) absolutely stink vs run. Cards don’t though (16th in YPG; 4th in Y/A).

    I hope Pederson realizes that he has found a recipe for success with this team offensively. I’m sure scoring early today helped him to not go away from the run early on even with some struggles to run the ball consistently in the first half (1st half – 9 carries, 42 yards).

    Stick with the running game even when it isn’t being that dynamic with the goal of keeping Wentz’s pass attempts to 30-35 and winning TOP by 10+ minutes. Use Blount in a 50/50 mix in the first half or even less & switch to more Blount if they have the lead in the 2nd half. It is when he starts to rip off those longer runs including that 37-yard run today.

    Keeps the defense fresh and allows this DL to assert more of a max effort especially early on especially if they know they aren’t going to be on the field for a majority of the game.

    • Someguy77

      Adding in Wiz/Womack in place of Seumalo has also made a world of difference in the running game too.

      Seumalo somehow managed to escape the usual wrath of Eagles’ media & fans despite struggling including having one of the worst single games by an Eagles’ OL (vs Chiefs) in recent memory.

      If the Eagles had used Blount in the Chiefs’ game and had possibly put in Wiz in place of Seumalo at half, they might have won that game too.

      Give Pederson a lot of credit though since then. This team has won 3 games they probably should have won and Pederson has made some adjustments in his game-planning and personnel which has helped Wentz.

      • P_P_K

        “If the Eagles had used Blount in the Chiefs’ game and had possibly put in Wiz in place of Seumalo at half, they might have won that game too.”
        That’s a great point.

      • wee2424

        Winston Justice still holds that title. Bell is up there as well.

      • D3FB

        Correlation at best.

        “one of the worst single game in recent eagles ol memory”

        What? He gave up 3 sacks and wasn’t great in the run game. Unless you have the memory of a goldfish that doesn’t qualify.

        And Warmack is not good either.

        • wee2424

          Random, but I’m down here in South Florida right now so the only game I have been able to see was the chiefs game. It is killing me not being able to watch and evaluate our young guys. How did Douglas hold up?

          • D3FB

            I think he got hurt early. Robinson was playing opposite Mills.

          • Someguy77

            He did. Robinson got shifted outside in the 2nd qtr.

          • wee2424

            Just read this morning that it was a pre game decision to have Robinson outside to help negate the Cards speedy receivers and have Jenkins mostly play slot. Apparently worked.

            Went on to read that Douglas did play however situationaly.

        • Someguy77

          I thought it was 4 sacks and he was credited giving up another 4 QBs hit/hurries.

          He got eviscerated in pass coverage that week.

          • wee2424

            Pretty sure it was 3.

          • D3FB

            It was 3. He technically gave up a fourth but Carson held the ball for 19 minutes, that’s not on Sem.

          • Someguy77

            It was the most sacks/hits/hurries that an Eagles’ G had given up in a single game in the past 20 years per Jaworski’s check with NFL Films that week.

            It was a horrendous game and one of the reasons that Pederson pulled the plug on Seumalo after just 2 G despite the Eagles supposedly really wanting him to be the starter this year.

          • D3FB

            The Chiefs designed their entire scheme to isolate him one on one vs chris jones and dee ford. Carson also held the ball alot that whole game. Some context is needed.

            Howie wants Sem to start. Pederson is a delegator. Stoutland pulled the plug. Benching a guy after one bad game when he’s got 6 pretty solid games on tape isn’t that justifiable.

          • SteveH

            Wasn’t he not so great in the opener too? And honestly I think Wiz should start full time, even if Seumalo was ahead of Warmack on the depth chart.

          • D3FB

            He was meh in the opener but so was pretty much everybody.

            Wiz should be starting now, but they should have given the young guy more rope. There is no reason Warmack should be continuing to play.

          • SteveH

            Yeah I agree with Warmack not playing, but Wiz has clearly been better than Seumalo and I want the best guy out there right now.

          • D3FB

            Correct, given what we know now fine and given where the season is going. But they should not have benched him at the time like they did.

          • Someguy77

            It was still a really poor game regardless when your at that kind of outlier performance.

            I’m fine with not seeing Seumalo again unless their is no other option due to injury.

            I am a bit puzzled by Womack’s continued amount of play. The Eagles have no ties or incentives to continue to play him as much as they have.

          • D3FB

            Again 6 solid games 1 bad game =/= trash.

            And for Warmack they don’t, except his ties to Stoutland.

          • Someguy77

            You think he played that well in the opener and are you talking about the 5 games last year?

          • D3FB

            I think he played ok for a guy making his first start at a new position where he didn’t get a ton of reps in the preseason with his blocking partners and the OL as a whole struggling.

            And his games last year yes. He was up and down in the first start last year but got better as the year went on.

    • wee2424

      If he were to stray away from it then it will probably be this Thursday. This is a tough matchup in about every way minus the fact that our CBs are finally going to be going up against WRs that aren’t track stars. However they are talented.

      • Someguy77

        Panthers have a good/very good defense but it has been possible to run the ball on them (4.0 Y/A; 17th in NFL).

        Been tougher to pass against them. Eagles are likely going to have to be patient next week too even if they don’t have much success running the ball in the 1st half & are down at half.

        Eagles can’t just give up a big play to McCaffrey (Stewart is slow as molasses at this point) or one of their WRs downfield.

        Like how the Eagles’ defense matches up although having Cox obviously makes a big difference.

    • D3FB

      5 yards per attempt isn’t running the ball poorly.

      • Someguy77

        14 of those came on one of Blount’s carry. 8 for 28 isn’t very good and Pederson mentioned it in his post-game (e.g., lack of run success early on).

        Still impressive production for a running game with a veteran who has a lot of wear on the tires, a backup RB type (Smallwood), and two guys who are practice squad/marginal NFL RBs (Barner/Clement).

        • D3FB

          I mean sure I guess good for Doug for not airing it out with two and three score leads?

          • Someguy77

            Continued to mix it up although he did pass more early on especially on the 1st drive of the game.

          • D3FB

            My point is that the argument that we are winning because the run and have to run to win and pass too much is awful and play football like it’s 1995 is a bit of drawing the bullseye around the arrow.

          • Someguy77

            Maybe but I would disagree with this personnel and OL mix.

            They don’t have a decent receiving RB or a RB that is decent at pass protection which hurts a bit and Wentz still seems like he makes too many ill-advised decisions/holds on to the ball too long.

            Rather minimize that to 30-35 ties/game than having him throw it 45+ times. Took a beating doing that in the first 2 games of the year doing that & increases odds he takes a hit that knocks him out.

          • D3FB

            Disagree passing with this OL mix? We have the best pair of T’s in the league, both wiz and brooks are above average pass blockers. Kelce’s fine.

            Smallwood has improved in both. Both Barner and clement are ok at it. Pretty much only Blount is straight up butt.

            There are going to be game this year where it’s close and the run game isn’t doing much. We’re gonna have to be able to open it up rather than getting a bunch of 3rd and 6 because we were sticking with the run game.

          • Someguy77

            Sure the run game might struggle at times but you really want to see put that weight on Wentz on a weekly basis?

            Eagles are opening it up early by passing particularly early on but they are keeping it to under a 60/40 pass/run ratio and mixing it up.

            It isn’t 1995 anymore where you need to run to establish the pass or have a RB who gets 25+ carries game.

            Don’t see this team being in a position to succeed either if you have Wentz throwing it 45+/game either most weeks.

            I would bet good money it is a matter too of not if he gets hurt but when too from a hit he takes.

          • D3FB

            They called 36 passing plays today on a day when the MO was chew clock from the early second quarter against a team who gave up.

            Wentz is gonna have to throw it 40+ times to beat some of the better teams on the schedule.

        • ChoTime

          Remember that the nice 5.0 YPC carries we all love to see are not composed of one 5 yard run after the other. They are, and always will be, 2s 3s 8s 1s 12s -4s 24s. The outliers matter when you are talking about average.

          There’s an argument to talk about the mode, which is the most common number. If you run 2 2 5 2 2 2 10 2 2 2 2 2 2 20 2 2 2 15, the mode would be 2 and that would not be very effective running (although it could be effective offense if the passing game is working).

    • daveH

      Even AR seems to have learned that

  • CTbirdsguy

    I just saw on Twitter that Jerry Jones just said “any Cowboys player who “disrespects the flag” won’t be allowed to play.” Meanwhile, the Cowboys are miles ahead of the rest of the league in recent suspensions due to DWI’s, assaults, domestic violence, and PED use (do I need to mention Greg Hardy…). If Dak and Zeke and Dez go ahead and kneel anyway next week, I will begrudgingly grant them a lot of respect.

    • P_P_K

      Jerry Jones has proven by his hires that he has little concern with ethics or morality.

    • FairOaks

      I think that is a phony story that dates from last year (made up somewhere on the Internet), and is being regurgitated now.

      http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/

      Jones knelt with the team a couple weeks back.

      • D3FB
        • FairOaks

          Ah, OK, thanks. That sounded very close to stories that made the rounds a couple weeks back. Sounds like he doesn’t want something to happen during the anthem itself but worked out ways the players could do stuff right before (which he joined). A little different than mandating behavior from on high. (As mentioned, the occasional assaults etc. not as big a deal.)

          • D3FB

            I just sincerely hope one of the players does it.

          • FairOaks

            Yeah, that’d be great. However, it seems like the kind of statement made after talking with the players and knowing nobody would.

  • wee2424

    Will Fuller can play.

  • Nailed It!

    Deshaun Watson is pretty effing awesome. Love seeing guys prove the draft guys wrong.

    • daveH

      Sick pass. . Sick catch.

    • wee2424

      Yeah. He is a just a winner. I’m excited to see how he progresses in year 2. Yes I know it’s very early in the year to say that.

      • Nailed It!

        Yeah it’s still very early but the guy just looks the part of a franchise quarterback.

      • daveH

        And i am also happy to see Jarred Goff progressing a ton as well

        • wee2424

          See my comment above. Not the one you just replied to.

          • daveH

            Very interesting insight. . NFL had some serious challenges: player injuries may be seeing a record this season. .they can’t afford to lose every star and have full viewership by the second half of season …

          • Tumtum

            I blame the CBA.

          • daveH

            Sorry not sure how that affects injuries .. i think the NFL can’t handle its violence; dangerous enough just having these guys run around 6 days a week

          • Tumtum

            It seems like with limited practicr times players are kept in bubble wrap until they are asked to go full bore. It seemed like in the past guys were able to gradually rachet up how hard they went.

            Just feels like practice rules amd injuries are correlating positively, to me.

          • daveH

            Got it now. Trending right along with bodies too big for humans to be crushing each other year 10 by the things they get a rookie paycheck

    • ChoTime

      Let me tell you young fellers about a man, went by the name of Griff. Griff the 3rd, that’s what they called ‘im….

      • P_P_K

        Rolled into town and folks figred there was a fella’ with a big iron ready to set things right. Rolled out of town all too soon, leavin’ the women folk and others sad and dejected…

  • SteveH

    My Cowboys friend is now crying bloody murder about how the officiating cost the Cowboys the game??? What a salty motherfucker. It’s sad when you need to resort to blaming the refs, especially when the worst call of the day benefited the Cowboys.

    • wee2424

      Take away that horrid call and the game could have been farther out of reach then it was for them.

    • Tumtum

      There were quite a few pro-cowboys ref gaffs.

  • daveH

    That was easy

  • wee2424

    Can’t help but think how the past 3 drafts at the QB position really saved the NFL. There was a stretch in which no or very few good QBs were coming into the NFL destroying parity and quality of the game. Combine that with the best ones retiring or getting very old by even QB standards.

    Funny how lasts yeas draft was supposed to be weak at the position, but the opposite safely appears true.

  • SteveH

    Ok everyone stop scoring points… You’re starting to mess up my massive day on Fanduel.

  • daveH

    DeShaun Watson another sick pass& catch

    • daveH

      And another one .. wow, 5 TD passes. .nice highlight reel in a loss

      • SteveH

        I’m not happy. His garbage time heroics cost me some $$$.

        • daveH

          He was throwing lasers into tight coverage it was beautiful but sorry bout the moola