A Different Kind of 5-1

Posted: October 17th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 160 Comments »

The Eagles are 5-1, their best start since they were 5-1 back in 2014. You’ll hear that phrase a lot for the next week.

I remember the 2014 team peaked at 9-3 after crushing the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day. That might have been the peak of the Chip Kelly era. Life seemed so good, but the team went 1-3 down the stretch and didn’t even make the playoffs.

Before that peak, the Eagles had been 5-1 earlier in the season. I was curious to see how that hot start stacked up against the current 5-1 start.


PHI 34, JAX 17
PHI 30, IND 27
PHI 37, WAS 34
SF 26, PHI 21
PHI 34, STL 28
PHI 27, NYG 0

The Eagles fell behind in the opener, 17-0. They woke up and dominated the game after that, but trailing a crappy Jaguars team (3 wins on the year) should have been a sign things wouldn’t be ideal that year.

The next week was a Monday night game that was back and forth. The Eagles scored the final 10 points to win.

The WAS game was another back and forth affair. Both teams led by as many as 10 points. The Skins were in control early, the Eagles late. The Eagles could not put the Skins away and had to hang on for the W.

Things were ugly in San Francisco. Nick Foles was 21-43-195 in the air and Shady McCoy was 10-17 on the ground, raising the question…how the hell was that game so close? Riley Cooper had a chance to catch the winning TD late, but dropped it.

The Eagles built a 34-7 lead over the Rams before QB Austin Davis remember he was Austin Davis and started shredding the Eagles less than ideal secondary. Next thing you know the game is 34-28 and the Eagles are holding on for dear life. Against Austin Davis. Ugly W.

Ah, the glorious shutout. Bill Davis didn’t have a great tenure in Philly, but he gets a lifetime pass from me for delivering a shutout. And of Eli and the Giants no less! What a magical night that was.

Now look at the 2017 games.

PHI 30, WAS 17
KC 27, PHI 20
PHI 27, NYG 24
PHI 26, LAC 24
PHI 34, ARZ 7
PHI 28, CAR 23

The Eagles have been in control for most of those games. They built early leads and controlled the games. That Chargers game looks close, but then you remember the Eagles worked the final 6:44 off the clock. The Carolina game was the one time when the opponent had the ball at the end with the chance to win.

Think about the QBs the Eagles played in the two seasons.

2014: Blake Bortles, Andrew Luck, Kirk Cousins, Colin Kaepernick, Austin Davis, Eli Manning

2017: Kirk Cousins, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Cam Newton

I think you can see the group 2017 is tougher. Remember that Cousins had little experience back then and has now established himself as a good starter.

One of the other big differences is that the 2014 played 4 of the first 6 games at home. The current team has been just the opposite, having to win on the road. The current team hasn’t faced great competition, but playing on the road so much helps me to believe in them. That’s always a challenge in the NFL.

Probably the biggest difference is simply Carson Wentz. I think the current team is more talented, but not significantly. The one position where there is absolutely no comparison is Wentz. Shady is worlds better than LeGarrette Blount, but RB isn’t nearly as much of an impact position as QB.

Carson Wentz is a franchise QB. We can argue how good he is or might become, but clearly this is a guy you want starting for your team. Nick Foles had the amazing 2013 season, but came crashing back to Earth in 2014. He got hurt at midseason and finished with 13 TDs, 10 INTs and a rating of 81.4.  Wentz already has the same number of TD passes, but hasn’t turned the ball over as much and is an actual weapon as a runner.

Records can be deceiving. Stats can be deceiving. The 2014 team got off to a hot start, but there were always signs that the team had some issues. The 2017 Eagles haven’t come close to peaking, but are playing good football and winning games. This team is 6th in the league in scoring and 9th in points allowed. There are difference-makers on offense, defense and STs.

We’ll have to wait and see how things turn out, but this team feels very different than the 5-1 bunch from 2014.


Doug Pederson said he expected Jordan Hicks to practice this week so this wouldn’t seem to be a move in regard to him.

Chris Maragos might be done for the season. If so, the team could add a LB to take his spot. That would help the depth at LB if Hicks did miss time in the future.


160 Comments on “A Different Kind of 5-1”

  1. 1 Sean E said at 1:02 AM on October 17th, 2017:


  2. 2 HawaiianEagle said at 2:01 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish in this league.

  3. 3 ChoTime said at 12:53 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Eh, no one reads the last post on an Igglesblitz. It’s usually after the “new thread’s up guys” PSA.

  4. 4 Buge Halls said at 8:11 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I say this every time some rookie comes on here with the “first” nonsense…NOBODY CARES!!!

    Go back to Spuds’ page for the games like that.

  5. 5 eagleyankfan said at 10:07 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Yeah – I thought that garbage stopped over 5 years ago. They are trying their best to bring it here though…

  6. 6 A Roy said at 2:11 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  7. 7 Sean E said at 12:56 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I’ve been here longer than you have, FOH

  8. 8 Buge Halls said at 10:56 AM on October 18th, 2017:

    Sure okay fine – if you had been, you’d know that nobody does that here

  9. 9 Masked Man said at 4:03 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    All we have to do is go to sleep 6 more times and wake up 6 more times.

    Then it will be Game Day!

  10. 10 Rob Jarratt said at 7:31 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Or, you can use the tried and true sleep therapy for losing weight: a coma for 144 hours or so.

  11. 11 Dan in Philly said at 4:41 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I don’t think you can draw definitive conclusions yet about how good this team really is. The season is only 1/3 done, time will tell.

  12. 12 Guy Media said at 5:13 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Monday will tell us a lot.

  13. 13 eagleyankfan said at 10:08 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    and then, after that – the following week will tell :). take it week by week, no matter who they play…

  14. 14 Guy Media said at 5:13 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I hope this doesn’t end up like 2014 in terms of having a team full of gutless cowards choke a must-win division game at home!


    I really can’t remember a worse example of this team laying down on the job in a game we had to have. I hope those days are long gone.

  15. 15 Brian said at 9:17 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    The next week was even worse.

  16. 16 Guy Media said at 6:46 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Dude, you’re not kidding.

  17. 17 daveH said at 12:15 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Helped free us from Chip.

  18. 18 GermanEagle said at 7:56 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I’m tempted to take the Skins in our spread predictions at work.. *emotionalhedge

  19. 19 scratcherk said at 8:16 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Bad GE, bad!

  20. 20 Sb2bowl said at 4:05 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Take them. We’ll win and I’ll love you even more!

  21. 21 GermanEagle said at 5:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Brother love.

  22. 22 scratcherk said at 9:09 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I maintain that PFF is worthless but apparently Patrick Robinson is their #1 rated CB.

  23. 23 ChoTime said at 10:04 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Why is there a but? heh 🙂

  24. 24 BlindChow said at 9:26 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    We didn’t play Blake Bortles in 2014. Henne started that game.

  25. 25 mtn_green said at 9:35 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Don’t forget to read Fran Duffy all 22.

  26. 26 eagleyankfan said at 1:46 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    This is just ridiculous. Cox played like a beast. DL was exceptional. Watching those videos can’t help notice Jenkins in just about all those plays as well. Players maintain their gaps. Just a wonderfully executed game plan on D.

  27. 27 bsuperfi said at 9:57 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    This Washington game is making my Spidey Sense act up. I’m not sure if it’s completely irrational or not. I get that we’re playing great ball, coming off a pseudo-bye, playing at home, etc.

    But the other side has stuff going for it too: I think Washington is sneaky good, and while I only trust DVOA so much, I think it’s a good general guide. This is a division game where anything can happen. And while last week felt like a loss wouldn’t kill us and a win would put us over the top, we’re getting so much hype and are flat out expected to win this game. This is all amplified by being on Monday night right as the national hype got out of control.

  28. 28 ChoTime said at 10:05 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    This does seem like the perfect time for a glass of icy water thrown in our collective faces, doesn’t it? Almost everyone is happy. Carson looks good. Even the national media is taking notice. And WAS is a solid team.

  29. 29 D3FB said at 10:40 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    It’s a division game but it’s also a team that’s constructed in a fairly similar fashion to the Eagles.

    Eagles D is better overall but both are legit, both deep at Edge with speedy LBs. Both are tough teams to run on. At full strength Eagles better at IDL, S, LB but Redskins better at CB, Edges probably a push.

    Both offenses are built around good OLs. Run the ball with WCO and 3-4 shot plays a game. Both RBBC, good TEs, veteran WR1s that are underwhelming, shifty and fast slots.

    Plus in the same way we’ve had the Giants number for a decade, the skins seem to have ours over the last 3-4 years.

    A little bit of pessimism is probably prudent. It’ll be a tight game and whoever makes a mistake late is catching an L.

  30. 30 GermanEagle said at 12:29 PM on October 17th, 2017:


    Thanks for finally some objective here!

  31. 31 John Galt said at 12:33 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Agree totally with your analysis, although it sounds like the Skins will definitely be down some corners. Even so, it will be close – our games with them always are.

  32. 32 Chiptomylou said at 3:29 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Yep, this SCREAMS trap game. Redskins are not a bad team whatsoever.

  33. 33 ChoTime said at 10:08 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    Tommy, I thought you might have mentioned the 1992 Eagles team, that also started 5-1. I remember the Sports Illustrated cover at the 5-0 point, which I believe featured Charlie Garner. Was that our last gasp as a good team in the 90s?

    (If I recall correctly, I was on a camping trip with my college cross country team when I saw that cover.)

  34. 34 Someguy77 said at 10:26 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    1992 team was probably the last Eagles’ team in the 90s that had any realistic hope of making an extended postseason run. I remember a lot of people including my high school self being psyched that the Eagles had a chance in Dallas and instead were just thoroughly trounced.

    1994 team though started 7-2, the rumblings about Kotite’s future in Philly started, and the bottom fell out with them finishing 7-9 including Cunningham getting benched for freaking Bubby Brister.

    Much worse collapse than even what happened with the 2014 Eagles team that reached 9-3 and finished 10-6.

  35. 35 FairOaks said at 10:26 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    It was 4-0 with the SI cover. The team skidded a bit after that, and was 7-5 at one point, but finished 11-5 and won a wild card playoff game (the first playoff win since the Vermeil era). Next season they also started 4-0 but then Cunningham got injured for the year and they lost the next six. 1994 was the last gasp for the Kotite era, as the team started 7-2 and lost their last 7.

    1995 and 1996 were also good teams, as Rhodes stacked the team with veterans, and motivated them both to 10-6 records. They got a wild card playoff win the first year. But that was the last gasp; Rhodes had a terrible next two years as the bad (downright horrid really) drafting caught up with the team. 1992 may have been the last year as actual contenders; Reggie White was let go in free agency after that year. Maybe 1993 if Cunningham had not been hurt. Eagles remained good for a few more seasons, but weren’t really Super Bowl threats.

  36. 36 D3FB said at 10:41 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    I was 18… months

  37. 37 ChoTime said at 12:51 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Damn. I could be your dad. I still don’t feel old yet inside. *sigh*

  38. 38 sonofdman said at 2:03 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Really? Did you know his mom in college?

  39. 39 ChoTime said at 2:07 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    What do mean by “know?”

  40. 40 sonofdman said at 2:27 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    That’s between you and her 😉

  41. 41 Tumtum said at 1:53 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Pipe down young buck.

  42. 42 Mac said at 1:56 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    You missed out. It was the best of times and the worst of times all wrapped into one insane football team.

  43. 43 Sb2bowl said at 4:03 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I was 9 going into that season. I remember my mom crying when ESPN revealed that Jerome had been killed along with his cousin in a car crash. Sucked.

  44. 44 P_P_K said at 9:34 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Awful death, but you know you’ve got a cool Mom.

  45. 45 Sb2bowl said at 7:47 AM on October 18th, 2017:

    I do. She’s pretty alright

  46. 46 unhinged said at 4:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Pre-concussion days.

  47. 47 Guy Media said at 6:46 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    As I remember them
    91 – Cunningham, then McMahon, injury derailed the best defense of all time carrying us on a deep playoff run.
    92 – Jerome Brown’s vehicular homicide cut the heart out of the D. They started 4-0 and destroyed the Cowboys, got exposed by KC the next week, and lost their edge even though they did beat the Saints in a playoff game.
    94 – That was the crazy Charlie Garner game where we tore up the Niners……….and pissed them off so much that they may not have lost again that year. Loser Kotie also asked for an extension mid-season and then we lost out.

  48. 48 eagleyankfan said at 10:10 AM on October 17th, 2017:

    struggling against a bad Jax was a sign – but struggling vs. a winless(at the time) Giants and Chargers teams are not a sign? I don’t think any of them are a sign…just saying if we’re comparing….

  49. 49 Mac said at 10:15 AM on October 17th, 2017:


  50. 50 GermanEagle said at 12:28 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I’ve got a feeling that the Chargers may run their table…

  51. 51 eagleyankfan said at 1:24 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Always a mystery with what happens with the Chargers each year. Their roster always seems to have pretty good talent at the skilled positions…

  52. 52 GermanEagle said at 1:32 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Good QB, RB and two edge rushers is normally a recipe for an above-average record..

  53. 53 Mac said at 1:32 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Eh, Chargers and Giants are in the same boat.

    QB past his prime, scared of what comes after that (rightfully so) and clinging to the hope that he’s still good enough.

  54. 54 GermanEagle said at 1:47 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Rivers >>> Sheli.

  55. 55 Mac said at 1:52 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    True, but they are also both past their prime. Even die hard Rivers fan boys are saying his passing prowess isn’t the same.

  56. 56 ChoTime said at 2:00 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Looked pretty good against us IMO.

  57. 57 GermanEagle said at 2:11 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  58. 58 Mac said at 2:52 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I think it’s easier to appreciate a good qb from a distance. But reading Charger’s fans thought on him prior to that game… they were talking about how he already wasn’t the same guy (last year).

  59. 59 ChoTime said at 3:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I remember thinking about that as he was ripping apart our secondary.

  60. 60 Mac said at 3:56 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    So far this year his to 300+ passing games have been against Miami and Philly. I think it says more about our corners than Rivers.

  61. 61 Tumtum said at 1:52 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    And always has..

  62. 62 Tumtum said at 1:52 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Their D line has mega good players. They have strong LBs.

  63. 63 A Roy said at 2:07 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Washington was winless at the time, too.

  64. 64 sonofdman said at 2:26 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  65. 65 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:45 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Is it Monday yet?

  66. 66 ChoTime said at 12:54 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    “Technically, “deep” passes are those that travel more than 15 yards past the line of scrimmage, but if we extend that to throws that traveled more than 13 yards past the line of scrimmage, we get these numbers for Wentz this week: 7-of-9 for 146 yards.”


  67. 67 A Roy said at 2:06 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I dislike their criteria. A ten yard out pattern requires a longer throw than a 15 yarder over the middle.

  68. 68 ChoTime said at 2:10 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I suppose they have to make some concessions to such things, and in any case, it still only nets 10 yards. Probably the reason they highlighted the stat was because Wentz was a short-baller last year, and they found this performance interesting in that light.

  69. 69 SteveH said at 3:27 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    The Wentz shortball thing is so annoying. He was a shortballer last year because he had jack shit to throw to. Agholor was putrid, we had no deep threat, Ertz was hurt half the season, and Mathews was a possession guy.

    It’s amazing how these narratives get constructed using only stats, not context.

  70. 70 ChoTime said at 3:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    The stats accurately showed his performance. Very few QBs have ideal situations–the numbers all wash out over time.

    The same stats showed that Alex Smith and Sam Bradford were short-ballers, year after year, no matter who they’re throwing to. I don’t agree that Wentz’s deep balls were acceptable last year. He threw less than others, he connected less than others, and he plain missed. But he worked on it, he has better teammates, and Doug is calling games that put him in a better position.

  71. 71 Dave said at 5:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Cho, I know you’re a big fan of football outsiders, but I watched the entire San Fran game and have no idea how C.J. Beathard was ranked significantly higher than Wentz.

  72. 72 ChoTime said at 9:12 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    CJ Beathard? Is that a real person?

  73. 73 Dave said at 9:31 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    My point exactly.

  74. 74 GermanEagle said at 1:04 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    ***Fact of the day***

    Before the Skins went on a 5 game winning streak against the Eagles, both teams really enjoyed splitting their series, with each time winning on the road.

    Thank me later,

  75. 75 Sb2bowl said at 4:02 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    So, we’re going to win the next 5 in a row against them?

  76. 76 GermanEagle said at 5:41 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    *I wish

  77. 77 Guy Media said at 6:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Good looking out, but that trend can start again after we’ve paid them back double for the 5 in a row.

  78. 78 scratcherk said at 1:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Looks like Norman and Jonathan Allen will be out with injuries.

    Also, Breeland and Dustin Hopkins might be out this game too.

  79. 79 GermanEagle said at 1:28 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Isn’t Hopkins already ruled out for Monday?!

    I also read that Breeland might play against the Eagles..

  80. 80 scratcherk said at 2:49 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    dunno, washington post from yesterday said its a maybe on both

  81. 81 Sb2bowl said at 4:01 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Same here GE- they say he’s going to give it a go, but with a sprained MCL that’ll be tough

  82. 82 scratcherk said at 1:24 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Any update on the Eagles injuries? Havent seen anything so far

  83. 83 GermanEagle said at 1:29 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Lane Johnson cleared concussion protocol and is a Go.

    Smallwood that he will play, even though today was only a light practice.

    Darby will still be out. Sidney Jones is still a ways from practicing.

  84. 84 scratcherk said at 2:49 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    anything on Hicks?

  85. 85 Sb2bowl said at 4:01 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Dug seemed to indicate that he would be fine for Washington.

    But you can tell his ankle is bothering him; he didn’t have the same explosion during the Panthers game as he typically does………… the extra rest is going to help him.

  86. 86 GermanEagle said at 5:40 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Is ‘Dug’ the Thug version of Doug??

  87. 87 Sean E said at 5:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    How could it not be …

  88. 88 Sb2bowl said at 6:05 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    When he wins the super bowl, I’ll spell his name correctly.

  89. 89 ChoTime said at 9:11 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  90. 90 Tumtum said at 1:54 PM on October 17th, 2017:


    As much as I hate giving that site 1 extra click.. I can’t stay away and I am sure you guys can’t either. This is really cool though, and something I am totally on board with.

  91. 91 Sean E said at 2:12 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Seems like they should just legalize all of those drugs instead of creating criminals

  92. 92 fran35 said at 8:09 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Also, I think illegal possession of firearms should be legalized if it is done in conjunction with drug dealing. Not allowing one to be strapped while trying to feed the family is simply allowing the victimization of underprivileged minorities. Completely reprehensible.

  93. 93 Tumtum said at 9:46 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    One smaller Euro country did that. Shit who was it…Portugal I think. The lone doc I watched on it from an org that is decidedly pro legalization certainly made it seem as though it was really working out.

    I love the thought experiment. Hard to do something like that on the scale of the U.S in one flick of the switch, but I think we could move toward a system like that. It could fix a ton of issues.

  94. 94 BlindChow said at 10:14 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    The state-wide legalizations are the first step, I think.

    It’s funny how we watch movies about the prohibition era where everyone acknowledges that banning alcohol was a boon to gangsters in the 1920’s & 30’s, yet no one seems to apply that logic to modern day drug prohibition…

  95. 95 Tumtum said at 11:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Concept seemed cool. Instead of spending 99% of their drug budget on enforcing the law and 1% on helping addicts they flipped it and spend 99% on helping people addicted to drugs.

  96. 96 Dave said at 5:09 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Malcolm Jenkins and Chris Long seem like fairly intelligent people. But for the love of God, are they unaware who Jeff Sessions is? No rational person believes this administration is going to make any changes in the law that show any type compassion toward minorities.

  97. 97 Sean E said at 5:35 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Is that what you heard on CNN?

  98. 98 Julescat said at 5:51 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    keep your liberal talking points out of my football site

  99. 99 Insomniac said at 6:31 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    and keep your conservative talking points out of my football safe space.

  100. 100 Julescat said at 6:45 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    cool. let’s keep it all about football.

  101. 101 Dave said at 8:25 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I apologize. Sometimes I forget bigots have feelings too.

  102. 102 Tumtum said at 9:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    So what would you purpose they do? Keep their pay checks and spend them selfishly because they can’t see past party lines that people from other countries can’t even see? Or would you like them to try and effect change with the officials in office due to our democratic methods of electing leaders?

    You seem like an intelligent dude too, but like many others politics seem to be the drug of the worst kind.

  103. 103 Dave said at 7:46 AM on October 18th, 2017:

    Tumtum, I’m surrounded by racist’s everyday and know quite a few racist cops. The one thing I know for certain is that they are not going to change their views based on NFL players kneeling for the anthem. If anything, it strengthens their beliefs.

    I think the only way the players can effect change is by educating the nation’s youth on social issues. Furthermore, they need to reach out to rural white youth, whose parents and friends have taught them racism and bigotry is the norm.

    They could literally go county-by-county that voted for this adminstration and send players, women, Muslims, Jews, immigrants, and every other type of person being discriminated against and let children know that we are all equal.

    Many (not all) of these youth lose their parent’s discriminatory views when they go to college. It’s hard to hate a minority when your chemistry partner/roommate/advisor/professor is a minority.

    It’s the kids that don’t go away to college or have any interaction with others who are different then them that continue with the discriminatory views throughout their lives.

  104. 104 Tumtum said at 1:38 PM on October 18th, 2017:

    I think educating the youth is absolutely the key to solving racism. It will even solve the type of bigotry you clearly don’t even realize you possess, but most certainly have ingrained within you. It is very unfortunate that the wrong road lead you to the right destination. Ending up in the right place is enough for now, when so many don’t.

    I just hope if Jeff Sessions agreed with you, you could find it in your self to stand your ground.

  105. 105 Dave said at 2:54 PM on October 18th, 2017:

    “It will even solve the type of bigotry you clearly don’t even realize you possess, but most certainly have ingrained within you.”

    I don’t follow. Care to explain?

  106. 106 Tumtum said at 9:30 PM on October 18th, 2017:

    I mean not really because I don’t want to go down this road. I’ll just leave it at this: assuming how someone thinks because of where they are from is prejudice. Hating someone because of who they voted for is probably worse.

    I don’t want to get contentious because I do like talking about the Eagles with you. Just wish we could keep the politics and real-world issues away from here. While many around here seem to be very well aligned in that area, I am someone who dislikes discussion of the entire business all together, and it reduces my desire to come to this site.

    I love debates, but conversations where both parties often become so blinded by vitriol that the conversation devolves to insults, is unappealing.

  107. 107 Dave said at 8:53 AM on October 19th, 2017:

    In the past year I have come to the stark reality that many of my extended family, clients, sales reps, golfing buddies, longtime friends, and many other associates across much of the state of Pennsylvania have based their entire political affiliation on their latent white supremacist viewpoints.

    These viewpoints are no longer hidden and are proudly discussed in the open. I have yet to have one conservative friend to distance themselves from these viewpoints.

    I will not sit silently showing my disgust for their white supremacist viewpoints.

    With that being said, we can end this discussion and move on to more enjoyable discussions of our mighty birds.

  108. 108 Tumtum said at 11:07 AM on October 19th, 2017:

    I know I can’t change you..your friends..or anyone else. It’s why I don’t try and really don’t want to discuss those topics here.

  109. 109 TO BLACKS said at 2:42 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  110. 110 A_T_G said at 5:07 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Maybe I am the only one that missed it, but I liked seeing that Sem is still being used and developed. Developing OL is tricky because they don’t (usually) rotate.

  111. 111 Dave said at 5:13 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I did see that. I find it refreshing the Doug brings in backup lineman throughout the game to block. I’d like having Seumalo, Vaitai, Warmack, etc. in unbalanced line packages. It sure beats having a fullback on the roster.

  112. 112 GermanEagle said at 5:40 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    *Michael Jackson tune

    You. Are. Not. Alone.

  113. 113 Guy Media said at 6:48 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I’m a huge advocate of developing Sem into the starting center for this team in 2018!

  114. 114 BlindChow said at 10:09 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I seem to remember him looking good filling in on the right side of the line last year. Hopefully his issues were related to being out of his “natural” position and not purely talent-related…

  115. 115 A_T_G said at 5:46 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Searching for a kicker? Hmm, can’t relate.

  116. 116 Dave said at 6:35 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I believe the Eagles never worked out Elliot as he was on the Bengals practice squad. I read that when Sturgis went down, Fipp had notes in Elliot coming out of college and chose him over the other free agent kickers.

  117. 117 A_T_G said at 7:58 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    That’s why you do your homework, kids.

    Now get off of my lawn.

  118. 118 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:24 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    1) Trust the Fipprocess.

    2) Trust Fipprocess?

    Let’s go with #2.

  119. 119 FairOaks said at 8:55 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    They signed Rose

  120. 120 Guy Media said at 7:18 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Sooooooooooooo boring to have to wait endlessly for the next game, so……

    Round 2 Pick 7 (TENN): Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A)
    Round 3 Pick 7 (TENN): Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 4 Pick 27: Chad Thomas, DE, Miami (FL) (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 31: Nyqwan Murray, WR, Florida State (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 18: Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 31: Christopher Herndon, TE, Miami (FL) (A)
    Round 6 Pick 31: Davontae Harris, CB, Illinois State (A)

  121. 121 GENETiC-FREAK said at 7:26 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    How you get the 3rd rounder?

  122. 122 Guy Media said at 7:29 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    The Titans REALLY wanted our pick at 31 I guess. Orlando Brown being there at that pick is laughable however. Somebody will talk themselves into him in round 1.

  123. 123 GENETiC-FREAK said at 7:35 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Oh man i really havent kept up with who coming out next year. But the positions i do think need to be addressed are OT, RB, S, TE, LB, DE. If you can do a draft with these positions and get an A for them you the man lol

  124. 124 Guy Media said at 8:05 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    It must be absolutely maddening to run a team, know you suck at certain positions, but not reach for need guys who aren’t as good as the guys who are currently best available.

  125. 125 A_T_G said at 8:00 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Wait, how did you trade up a spot to have KCs first rounder?

  126. 126 Guy Media said at 8:03 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  127. 127 Howie Littlefinger said at 7:51 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    It’s crazy to me the disrespect the media gives this team. Some nfl red big wig goon just used a play from Thursdays game to brag about how good his guys are at making calls real time

    Yea they put us at two but the attitude with it states : for now , I guess , whatever philly never wins SB’s

  128. 128 Guy Media said at 8:06 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    That sounds like an extremely douchey interview.

  129. 129 Howie Littlefinger said at 10:01 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Words can’t do it justice. Just the audacity of it

    I hope this team finally gets a winning Chip on it shoulder.

  130. 130 Ryan Rambo said at 8:19 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Ezekiel Elliott has been granted another temporary restraining order by the Southern District of New York, and will be allowed to play Week 7.

  131. 131 Guy Media said at 8:24 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Only a two weeker until he gets the boom lowered on him .

  132. 132 Duracell said at 8:19 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I don’t know if anyone is watching NBA opening night, but Gordon Hayward’s leg break looked gruesome.

  133. 133 SteveH said at 8:20 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Oh wow, Hayward gone on opening night? That’s brutal for a team with championship aspirations.

  134. 134 Duracell said at 8:23 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Was somewhat reminiscent of the Darby injury. I have no love for the Celtics but hopefully Hayward can be so lucky with the outcome.

  135. 135 SteveH said at 8:29 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I don’t really care about the Celtics but a major injury to a star player on opening night is pretty unusual for the NBA.

    The Celtics really needed Hayward as the 3rd leg of the Irving/Hayward/Horford trio to make the whole thing work.

  136. 136 Guy Media said at 8:31 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Deck chairs on the Titanic, the Sixers are going to be processing all over the faces of both franchises by the end of the 18-19 season.

  137. 137 SteveH said at 8:33 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Agree. Once Fultz gets up to speed that roster is going to be nasty.

  138. 138 Guy Media said at 8:34 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    It already is! Simmons is looking strong and Embiid is going to carry them to some great things this year.

  139. 139 SteveH said at 9:25 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Yo… I just saw the injury… That is far far far more gruesome than Darby’s injury….

  140. 140 Duracell said at 9:34 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Yes, definitely worse. I didn’t watch replays of either, just going what I saw live. I guess I meant it more as they both looked terrible and unnatural and hopefully this one wasn’t as bad as it looked either.

  141. 141 SteveH said at 9:38 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    There’s always hope but I have never seen someone’s foot do that before. Closest thing I can think of are Kevin Ware and Paul George’s injuries but even they didn’t… move… quite like that.

  142. 142 BlindChow said at 10:04 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Tennessee Titans kick returner Marc Mariani had a similar one. Google if you’re feeling brave…

  143. 143 daveH said at 8:37 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Sports are too dangerous now.

  144. 144 Guy Media said at 8:23 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    The NBA doesn’t open until tomorrow night #Trusttheprocess

  145. 145 SteveH said at 8:31 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    So it looks like Zeke is reinstated again for the moment. I know at some point I’m just going to want the whole thing to be over no matter what the outcome is, as injunctions and appeals go on endlessly.

  146. 146 Guy Media said at 8:31 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Only 2 weeks. He’s cooked.

  147. 147 daveH said at 8:40 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I’d rather beat the Boyeees with Zekesterama

  148. 148 ChoTime said at 9:09 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    It’s a non-story to me. They’re not exactly lighting it up with him there.

  149. 149 Guy Media said at 8:43 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    For those of you who enjoy dispensing justice to the scum of the earth; Wayne Simmonds just owned some punk of Florida.

  150. 150 meteorologist said at 9:03 PM on October 17th, 2017:


  151. 151 Guy Media said at 9:05 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Strong………..so what’s that do for Curry’s value in trade?

  152. 152 BlindChow said at 9:49 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Curry has really impressed me. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a rusher cut to the outside, leaving me sighing and thinking “oh no, they lost contain!” only to have Vinny Curry emerge from nowhere and swallow the guy.

  153. 153 Howie Littlefinger said at 10:21 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I always want Curry to do well because I met him once and he is a huge fan and loves this team like we do still.

    Extremely humble guy too

  154. 154 Tumtum said at 9:51 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    As I think about that stat, I think about how important every other aspect of the front 7 has to be working for those numbers to be good.

  155. 155 SteveH said at 9:25 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Warning to the curious: I watched the Hayward injury, you really don’t need to see it. Most gruesome injury I’ve ever seen.

  156. 156 BlindChow said at 9:41 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Has anyone ever read one of these posts and NOT immediately googled it to see the injury themselves?

    If you seriously wanted people not to see it, you wouldn’t have mentioned it at all. (I totally googled the injury.)

  157. 157 Tumtum said at 9:49 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    I wouldn’t have anyway.. and still won’t lol. I do think if someone was on the fence they would def go check it out.

  158. 158 daveH said at 10:38 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Tim Krumrie .. yuck. Scarred. Theisman was bad but no more after krumrie …
    Well, Marco Simoncelli saw live …

  159. 159 FairOaks said at 12:51 AM on October 18th, 2017:

    Krumrie was the one that makes me try to avoid such replays ever since…

  160. 160 RobNE said at 10:41 PM on October 17th, 2017:

    Didn’t see it but really worse than Joe theisman?