Monday Morning Notebook

Posted: October 2nd, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 222 Comments »

The Eagles did something pretty special on Sunday. I’m not talking about winning on the west coast or rushing for more than 200 yards. I’m referring to them running a screen pass that actually worked.

There was a time when the Eagles were the best screen team in the NFL. This year the screen game has been a mess. It was very encouraging to see Carson Wentz fake one way and then dump the ball to Wendell Smallwood, who got behind a convoy and went up the field for 24 yards. Good design, good execution. Big gain.

Screen passes are simple in theory. You let the defense get into the backfield and then you throw around/over them and get the runner/receiver into space. OL release and go downfield to block. If the runner/receiver can read blocks and make some moves, you can get a big gain on somewhat of a safe play.

The problem is that screen passes must be executed by a whole group of people. Timing is crucial. If rushers get upfield too quickly, the QB doesn’t have time to get the throw off. The back must release and get to the right spot. The QB needs a good throwing angle. A lot can go wrong and all of this has to happen in less than two seconds.

The Eagles executed well on Sunday and that offers hope for the future. Smallwood is a player you want to get the ball to in space. He’s perfect for screen passes. Let’s hope the Eagles can execute those well in the coming weeks.

*****

Beau Allen is no Fletcher Cox, but Allen had a sack and TFL against the Chargers. He showed some quickness and always plays hard. Cox impacts plays just by being on the field. Allen won’t ever get to that level, but he can be a solid player if he can make plays like he did on Sunday.

*****

Nelson Agholor is on pace for 48-692-8. That would be a good season for him. He’s probably never going to catch 70 passes for 1,000 yards, but if he can become a playmaker from the slot, like he’s done this year, that makes him a valuable weapon in the passing game. Right now he’s 12-173-2.

For the 2016 season, he was 36-365-2. He’s already matched the TD total and is almost halfway there on receiving yards.

Beyond the numbers, Agholor is making plays consistently. He’s not perfect by any stretch, but you don’t have the regular drops and mental errors that he made regularly last year.

*****

Lots of praise for Jake Elliott, and rightfully so. He was 4 for 4 a week after hitting a 61-yard FG to be the Giants. This guy is becoming a weapon. Any time the Eagles get inside the opponents 40, I feel like the team is in field goal range.

Elliott is also a weapon on kickoffs. He had 7 of them against the Chargers and all of those were touchbacks. That saves wear and tear on the coverage units and it eliminates the possibility of a long return. He’s kinda decent.

More than a few people have brought up the question of what happens when Caleb Sturgis is healthy. We’ll have to wait and see. If Elliott is still killing it at that point, he might just keep the job. If he’s more up and down, Sturgis might get the nod.

The Eagles liked Cody Parkey, but then Caleb Sturgis beat him out. They loved Sturgis, but he got hurt and now Elliott is the guy. The Eagles are going to be loyal to whoever does the best job.

*****

This was cool.

*****

What an amazing run. Having a RB who can physically destroy tacklers adds to the fun of big plays. Speed is great. Elusive is too. But physicality and power is primal and makes those runs even more satisfying.

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/914619947707330560

Feels like plays like that give an emotional lift to the whole team.

*****

We knew Torrey Smith didn’t have great hands. The stats showed that. His game tape showed that. But some of his drops this year have been brutal. He had a TD in the KC game, but dropped it. He had a big gain on Sunday and possible TD, but dropped it. Wentz continues to throw him the ball, which he should. Smith can be a playmaker so he’s worth some risk.

Smith needs to get better if he wants to stick around for more than just this year.

*****

The Eagles were 9 of 16 on 3rd downs and 1 for 1 on 4th downs. That’s how keep the chains moving and dominate time of possession. While that stat is still overrated by many, there are times when it does have meaning.

At the start of the final drive, the Eagles had already run 61 plays, compared to the Chargers 53. The Eagles had run the ball a lot and you have to wonder if being on the field that much on a hot, sunny afternoon and having to tackle Eagles RBs so much wore down their defense.

The Eagles ate up the final 6:44 and it didn’t require any magic. There were no sensational moves. Just good blocking and physical running.

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222 Comments on “Monday Morning Notebook”

  1. 1 Anders said at 2:37 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Didnt see the game, but heard they rotated LG again and that Wis was the far surperior player again.

    I hope they from next week just play him.

    In regards to Blount, he seems like one of those guys you wonder how he would have played had he not wasted the start of his career

  2. 2 D3FB said at 2:56 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    They whole LG situation is stupid.

    They pulled the trigger on benching Sem after 1 bad game. Which was too quick.

    Then they institute this dumbass rotation, which is stupid on so many levels. Then Wiz clearly outplays Warmack last week and they still keep it up. And it seems like they are going to continue. If you’re going to force the rotation it should at least be to get Sem reps.

  3. 3 Ankerstjernen said at 3:38 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Its a really weird situation when one player is clearly better than the other. And what does it do to the locker room, when everyone can see that coach is taking the better player off the field, which makes life harder on everybody else? I don’t like this one bit.

  4. 4 Guy Media said at 6:22 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    “Its a really weird situation when one player is clearly better than the other.”

    The roster is supposed to be a meritocracy. When we can all see a guy lacks merit, you’re correct that the locker room saw it sooner than we did.

  5. 5 Ankerstjernen said at 8:39 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    ..and how does that not create some displeasement with the coaching staff. Imagine you are the RB who suddenly have no holes, or the QB who is now getting pummeled because the coaches are keeping the best of the available players on the bench. Or the gassed DL-men who has to get back on the field after a quick 3’n out because the guard blew his assignment again. coaches preach effort and accountability as foundaional traits fo a winning culture. These guys are supposed to go out there and give everything, take all the hits and risk serious injury on every play because winning is what matters at all costs and above all else, and every single play is vital, right? But if the coaching staff is then dicking around and not putting the best players on the field for whatever weird reasons, (contract speculation, planning for the future, coach simply having favourites, etc.), then that should demoralize everybody else. Who wants to give a 100 percent – in practice or in game – when the coaches are not fielding the best players? I really think this is detrimental to the kind of culture that a winning team needs. Something to monitor.

  6. 6 xmbk said at 8:48 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Teams are developing players all the time, esp early in the season. They’ve run for 200 the last 2 games. If it starts to hurt the team, you’ll see a change.

  7. 7 or____ said at 10:34 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    No why don’t you understand that if we had just stuck with one LG, we could have one at least one of the last two games!

  8. 8 Ankerstjernen said at 12:35 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yes, I guess these are the kinds of things that a coach can get away with if the team is winning. Real hard to justify such an approach if they are losing the close games though.

  9. 9 scratcherk said at 8:59 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Wis may be outplaying Chance, I dont know. But people keep saying it like it’s a fact. Not sure how people seem to know that without breaking down the tape.

    Also it’s not like Wis is a future HOFer or even a probowler that we’re benching for Chance.

  10. 10 Ankerstjernen said at 9:16 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Plenty of people have pointed it out from the tape study. Warmack is simply not reliable in pass protection. He lunges, reaches and gets off balance when defenders cross his face and he has a very weak grasp of how to handle stunts. Slow feet and/or slow brain is putting him in bad situations where the defender gets an inside track to the QB almost immediately after the snap. Wiz is no world beater, but he is technically sound and he knows his assignments. That’s a huge difference.

  11. 11 Masked Man said at 9:48 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Just watch a few replays, right? With Wiz, it’s the footwork and knowing the assignments. He reacts quickly and the neat feet get him in the right position. One step, bang, he’s blocking. Technically sound.

  12. 12 Ankerstjernen said at 12:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Knowing where you are supposed to be and what side you are supposed to lead the defender to brings you a long way as a guard. Wiz is not a special talent in terms of athleticism, and he will get beat 1v1 against good interior linemen. But even when he gets beat, he stands in their way, slowing them down for a second. When your guard can do that consistently, you can work with that as an offense/coordinator. With Warmack its a handful of plays every game where he just completely seems to whiff on a defender that goes right through unblocked. Those plays usually end up killing a drive, an opportunity to score and possession of the football and can literally make the difference in a close game. And sometimes they get your QB injured for the season and/or beyond. It just seems to me, if you are playing that guard in stead of a better option, you are playing with fire.

  13. 13 D3FB said at 1:07 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He is and it’s not close

  14. 14 Guy Media said at 6:21 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Where do you lay the blame on that? Pederson? Reich? Stoutland?

  15. 15 Anders said at 6:40 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Stoutland as it is him who determines the starting 5.

    Yes, Doug could overrule him, but thats not very common because if the HC needs to overrule the OL coach on OL matters, he should fire his OL coach

  16. 16 Guy Media said at 6:42 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Thank you

  17. 17 xmbk said at 8:42 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It’s not like they don’t discuss it during the decision making process.

  18. 18 xmbk said at 8:46 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    So. Much. Anger.

    I don’t understand the move. But it’s not being done willy-nilly. Way too much happening behind the scenes for fans to dissect every decision, even with all the beat guys in Philly. I don’t think we’ll see it all season (unless they keep running for 200/game, in which case they should keep it up until the SB).

  19. 19 ChoTime said at 12:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I think it’s weird, too. The guy has physical tools and was a high draft pick, so presumably the coaches think he has potential and are giving him PT to try to draw it out. That’s pretty normal, if often a failing proposition.

  20. 20 D3FB said at 1:06 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Stoutland

  21. 21 xmbk said at 8:41 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    They clearly want someone with long term potential to step up, Wiz obviously not being that guy. I’m thinking they want Warmack, maybe because they have Center plans for Seumalo. Of course, it’s not ideal that he couldn’t handle LG if he’s moving to C, but there has to be some kind of hidden logic here.

  22. 22 D3FB said at 1:10 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Explain how Warmack is a long term piece.

    Please. I’ll wait.

    Is it because he was a high draft pick? Because Stoutland is going to magically fix hm?

    Why is Wiz not? His contract says he’s more of a long term piece than Warmack. He’s only 28.

    The logic is pretty simple. Stoutland is a nepotistic fuck.

  23. 23 xmbk said at 4:19 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    You seem kinda worked up over this one. I thought Wiz was 30, so my bad on that one. Did kind of shoot my theory to hell, but I wasn’t that attached to it. I’ve been down on Stoutland for a couple years, but I’m still inclined to think there’s more to it than nepotistic fuck, though that would make a cool headline.

    I don’t think this is something we’ll see much longer. But I do see the merits of not changing something after back to back 200 yards games.

  24. 24 Ark87 said at 5:29 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    on the flip side, he could have just given Warmack the job, while the rotation was unconventional I appreciate that it revealed Wiz to be the best option when convention would have kept him on the bench. That said, not sure why the competition continued this week. Then I’m not sure why the constant switching has no obvious impact on the O-line, goes against everything I’ve been taught about. Guess it pays for the LG to be between 2 veteran players who have been on the team for years.

    Anywho, I expect it all to be settled next week. I am surprised Sem is this deep in the dog house. I thought it was going to be a 1 game wake up call thing. Dude must have showed up to the game high or something because they buried him.

  25. 25 Guy Media said at 6:20 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    One of the things I wonder about with Blount is how much he was caught up in the league trending away from bigger backs. And loser/liar Todd Haley causing Blount to quit on the Steelers, only to win a title with New England that year, was amazing.

  26. 26 xmbk said at 8:36 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    No upside to Wiz. They really want someone to step up, long term.

  27. 27 Guy Media said at 6:16 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    “More than a few people have brought up the question of what happens when Caleb Sturgis is healthy. We’ll have to wait and see. If Elliott is still killing it at that point, he might just keep the job. If he’s more up and down, Sturgis might get the nod.”

    Magically Sturgis doesn’t have to be declared healthy enough to worry about it until next pre-season starts.

  28. 28 eagleyankfan said at 7:51 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Wally Pipp’d

  29. 29 xmbk said at 6:21 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Way too many big plays, a week after getting dinked and dunked. Really curious what happened on that first td, can’t believe there wasn’t deep help, only 4 rushed.

    Saw Barnett and Graham covering wr, that’s ok but the rush better hit home fast. Seems like Schwartz is still experimenting.

  30. 30 Guy Media said at 6:23 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’d love to know what crack was being smoked by Kendricks, Hicks, and McLeod to allow that nonsense TD run.

    And Keenan Allen has some balls putting together that kind of a game after putting my money to sleep in 2015 and 2016 with all of those missed games.

  31. 31 P_P_K said at 10:54 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I thought I saw some sort of linebacker blitz, so when the rb got past the line there was all that open turf.

  32. 32 Will Ft. The Roots said at 6:36 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Both Safeties were up near the LOS and Douglas was on an island and drowned.

  33. 33 Guy Media said at 6:41 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yeah, I’d question Schwartz heavily on that.

  34. 34 xmbk said at 8:33 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Why was he on an island against a fast receiver, with only 4 rushing? I can’t believe that was the design.

    My concern is that Jenkins hasn’t been showing good centerfield instincts this year. I was hopeful that getting him out of the slot would help with deep balls.

  35. 35 Will Ft. The Roots said at 9:41 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Jenkins wasnt playing centerfield. They usually have him around the LOS or roaming around underneath.

    Looks it was some kind of zone. Maybe the DC will give some clarity.

  36. 36 Duracell said at 8:21 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Looked like it may have been quarters coverage to me. If so, it was both a good route to attack the coverage and poor execution by the secondary.

  37. 37 FairOaks said at 11:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    This article thinks Douglas had outside leverage, and McLeod may have supposed to have been the inside leverage, but bit on a pump fake.

    http://www.mcall.com/sports/football/eagles/blog/mc-spt-eagles-five-takeaways-20171002-story.html

    Douglas was way late in reacting to the move back to the inside though. Mills raced back from his guy and got closer, but not close enough.

  38. 38 xmbk said at 5:56 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Thanks, certainly seemed like a safety should have been there.

  39. 39 ColorSgt said at 7:19 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    This was a game that was easily a loss both on paper before the game and on the field during the game. This was a game they would have lost last year. While it was far from a must win game, I think its a big one for the momentum of the season. Good teams find a way to win, and that’s what this team is doing even with key injuries. Far from perfect, but this was a very good game.

  40. 40 eagleyankfan said at 7:53 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Why was this ‘easily a loss both on paper’….SD was 0-3. Eagles are playing terrible…so just wondering how this was ‘easily a loss’?

  41. 41 ColorSgt said at 11:07 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Trap game. Travel to west coast. I don’t think the chargers are a bad team either. They’ve lost some close ones including this game. And I’ll clarify that I didn’t expect the eagles to lose, but I thought it could go either way. So it easily could have been a loss.

  42. 42 Insomniac said at 8:25 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Easy loss? What.

  43. 43 ColorSgt said at 11:08 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    See below.

  44. 44 ChoTime said at 12:32 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    A better way to say it was “This was a game that was easily a toss up…” etc.

  45. 45 ColorSgt said at 5:45 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Fair enough. As an Eagle’s fan I was prepared for a loss. Conditions were set up for one. I guess I thought other people were thinking along those lines too. Regardless, my main point is it was a good win, which I think we can agree on.

  46. 46 Rob Jarratt said at 7:24 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    And Wentz was 3-3 passing during the last possession. Nothing spectacular, but Brady-seque in moving the chains. It can be utterly demoralizing to a team trying to get the ball back when its opponent takes three downs to move up 11 yards. Being here in Maine, I have seen Brady do just that over this century. Good for Wentz and the team.

  47. 47 Dave said at 7:45 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Damn, JMatt needs thumb surgery and is out a month. He has 10 catches for 162 yards and 1 TD.

  48. 48 scratcherk said at 8:25 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    poor guy has been snakebit after being traded

  49. 49 ChoTime said at 12:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He’s going to become a legend, just like Sam Bradford.

  50. 50 eagleyankfan said at 7:55 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Hoping for the holy trinity of Cowboys/Giants/Redskins losing in the same week…

  51. 51 Forthebirds said at 9:55 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Add the Pats to yesterday’s losing teams. Not quite the holy trinity but I sure like it when they lose.

  52. 52 Ark87 said at 7:57 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Not sure, but I think Wentz hit all his deepish throws yesterday, or at least most. Ertz, Ags, and the Smith drop were all perfect passes.

  53. 53 scratcherk said at 8:24 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    the pass to marcus johnson was ill advised but i guess it was where it was supposed to be

  54. 54 Ark87 said at 8:54 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Ah, forgot about that one. See if we are going to throw any passes like that, I want them to go to Alshon, stupid to force a ball to Marcus Johnson

  55. 55 RogerPodacter said at 9:20 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    i think Johnson was out there 1 on 1 against his defender. i think the WR(s?) on the other side had a few more defenders out there.
    i don’t really like the call to throw that one, but i can see the merit of letting your guys make a play for you.

  56. 56 Ark87 said at 9:38 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    There was a safety right on top of him as well wasn’t there?

  57. 57 RogerPodacter said at 10:38 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    i could be wrong!

  58. 58 xeynon said at 11:58 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Nah, that was one-on-one. Hayward had great coverage though.

  59. 59 Sb2bowl said at 2:53 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Hayward had a great day yesterday

  60. 60 Will Ft. The Roots said at 9:39 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He broke up the pic. Im not mad at MJ or Wentz for throwing it.

  61. 61 ChoTime said at 12:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It was basically a punt.

  62. 62 Buge Halls said at 8:15 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I loved the run game yesterday, but then to take a step back, it was against one of the worst run defenses in the league. Let’s see if they can keep it consistent! 3-1 feels pretty good, especially getting wins on the road this year!

  63. 63 sonofdman said at 9:48 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’m happy they did what they were supposed to do against a bad run defense. Too many times in the Reid era against bad run defenses, they would come out passing and it seemed like Reid was thinking that the other team expects us to run so we’ll surprise them and pass.

  64. 64 Sb2bowl said at 2:52 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I loved that the Chargers knew what was coming with 6 1/2 minutes left in the game, and they couldn’t stop us. We mixed in just enough passes to keep them honest, while opening up holes in the run game.

    I’ll take a stat line of 14/25 for 200 yards and a TD for Wentz when it gets us a W.

  65. 65 Mac said at 3:40 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Oh my gosh… you know what’s better than doing something that’s almost guaranteed to work? SOMETHING UNEXPECTED!

  66. 66 ChoTime said at 12:35 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Even if you just get 2-4 yards on a run, that puts you in a better position than making a young QB sit back there and throw to people who are waiting for it. Wentz should be protected, not leaned on as if he were prime AR or Peyton Manning.

  67. 67 Mitchell said at 9:01 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yesterday felt like a close game during the Chip era, except the Eagles won this time.

  68. 68 scratcherk said at 9:08 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    and we won TOP

  69. 69 Gary Barnes said at 9:12 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Very good win on the road, offense played consistently well and they are starting to utilize the various skill players more effectively. I like the balance b/t run and pass and especially thought the OL did a great job controlling the LOS.

    Defensively, it was more of a mixed bag. Pressure was pretty consistent, but the coverage was very leaky and we gave up too many big chunk plays. We have some injuries back there, but still we need better performance.

    ST were quite good even after the loss of Sproles. Sure, Barner is not dynamic, but steady and Elliott is quickly becoming quite a revelation.

  70. 70 Masked Man said at 10:13 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Hey Gary! I actually predicted that the Chargers would score 24 points. Phil Rivers is a tough competitor. And those wide receivers he has are very good, especially Allen and Williams. I think that, without Cox, C. Graham and Watkins, it turned into a long day for our starting safeties and young corners. But they did enough to get the win.
    I had predicted that the Birds would score 30 with two passing TDs, a rushing TD and 3 FGs. But Torrey dropped a big time pass by Wentz, and I think that led to one of Jake’s 4-4 FG attempts. So the score was closer than I thought.
    Barner looked a little sluggish on STs didn’t he? Maybe he’s out of football shape or something. As you say, he wasn’t that “dynamic.” Give him a few weeks in Philly to workout, practice and drink a few smoothies. Maybe some of that dynamism will return.

  71. 71 Gary Barnes said at 1:57 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Barner will be ok, but never Sproles. Just a different level talent.

    The offense won the game for us. The defense and/or ST have won other games for us. Usually those performances balance out over the season and the team starts winning games with all 3 units playing well. They call that “peaking at the right time” i.e. for the playoffs. Hopefully, we’ll get there.

  72. 72 TO BLACKS said at 9:53 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I was right about Jeffrey & Torrey Smith, they both suck that’s why they were let go by their respective teams.

  73. 73 Frencheaglesfan said at 11:31 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Except Cousins on week 1 it seems that every QB we face decide to bring their A game against us (Yes Eli “A game ” is throwing few picks in the process). I would like this trend to stop please.

  74. 74 Tom33 said at 11:46 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    That’s definitely the “glass half full” way of looking at it. After a few weeks of the same thing every time, it might not be the opposing QB’s

    I hope you are right though!

  75. 75 DJH said at 12:30 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yeah, I’m with Tom in this. I think QBs throw against us with confidence and results follow. We’ve given up a ton of 4th quarter points and I wonder if stats will show teams are simply throwing at us more in the fourth. More throwing = more yard and points.

    Our pass rush is solid but unless we figure out DB teams will stick to the blueprint that Giants and Chargers used.

    Darby’s return will be helpful.

  76. 76 ChoTime said at 12:37 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    We give up cushions because of poor CB quality, thus QBs often have a short man open. This leads to high opposing QB rating and helps them get into a rhythm. There’s not much we can do about it right now.

  77. 77 bsuperfi said at 1:32 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    This seems like the case. Though it doesn’t seem to help much. Receivers just run past our corners on slant patterns and the like. I wouldn’t mind seeing the corners being more aggressive at times, even it it means we’re more susceptible to the long ball. At least we’d go down swinging.

  78. 78 ChoTime said at 2:15 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I don’t know, maybe they were trying to be aggressive yesterday and that caused the big plays. Just guessing, I didn’t really see that much detail and am not qualified to analyze it.

  79. 79 Tumtum said at 2:37 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Did notice on one double A Gap blitz that the pressure was totally picked up. THINK Allen may have gotten 30 on that.

  80. 80 bsuperfi said at 2:47 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about. You could feel it happening before Rivers even threw the ball–when a good QB has time on a blitz, trouble is coming. Good point.

  81. 81 ChoTime said at 5:38 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Rivers had _huge_ time on some of his throws, and I assume its because they were doing max-protect type things and we were doing max-cover (that’s not a word, I think) things. But eventually the DL has to break through, or it’s going to be ugly. Can’t cover forever.

  82. 82 BlindChow said at 4:38 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It looked like the one big TD play was because Douglas bit on a slant fake and couldn’t recover. Didn’t notice how far he was playing off, though.

  83. 83 Tumtum said at 2:36 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Well to use the boxing reference, we are raising our fist in victory after the final bell. If what we are doing keeps winning games, I can live with it.

  84. 84 bsuperfi said at 2:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Can’t argue with the Ws. II just hope it’s sustainable with this secondary until Darby gets back and then integrated.

  85. 85 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Some of it, too, is that we just faced 3 veteran QBs in row (A. Smith, E. Manning, P. Rivers) who already have AARP membership. They know how to play, especially against a depleted secondary.

  86. 86 scratcherk said at 11:48 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/914820114809278464

  87. 87 Mac said at 3:37 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Lurie: the fans are so tired of Andy, and these last few years have been pretty bad.
    Roseman: and now for something completely different…
    (Chip year’s ensue)
    Lurie: you know what… I really miss Andy. I just wish he would have done a better job with the run game, and found a better replacement after Jim Johnson passed away (RIP JJ).
    Roseman: and now for something completely different… (that seems eerily similar to what we had a few years ago).

  88. 88 Tom33 said at 11:49 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    OT – but was watching the Indy/Seattle game last night and saw our old friend MSII make a few plays and look like an effective pass rusher.

    How does a guy go from “bust” to that in a few weeks? Is it attitude? Opportunity? Coaching? Not saying the Eagles miss him at DE this year, but it definitely jumped out at me watching him get a couple sacks and create the fumble that broke the game open.

  89. 89 Fufina said at 11:55 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He looked ‘ok’ in 2016 and had a semi decent camp in 2017. Our DE depth is just fantastic now.

    MSII always had the athletic tools to become a quality NFL player, and the work ethic and brains to slowly put it all together in time. However the problem was that he showed no real ability to put his hand in the dirt and have NFL pass rush moves (he played QB initially in college). In college he stood up and beat people on stunts and with athleticism.

    It has taken him time to develop the moves and instincts to be a decent NFL player and it wouldn’t surprise me if in 2-3 years he had a shock break out year with ~10 sacks.

  90. 90 meteorologist said at 12:44 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Still wouldn’t surprise me if he’s out of the league in 2 years

  91. 91 Sb2bowl said at 2:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He was playing against a backup QB, in obvious passing downs against a horrible offensive line. When he can pin his ears back and beat people with speed, he has a chance.

    He didn’t want to be in Philly anymore- it was clear. So he gets a fresh start some place else. And I think Seattle will fit his personality in a much better way than Philly did- he didn’t have the mindset to succeed here.

  92. 92 ChoTime said at 12:38 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I think he has a total of 20 tackles in his career.

  93. 93 Tumtum said at 2:34 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Attitude and opportunity. He didn’t have the right mixture here.
    You probably would have looked good vs the effort where he made his play.

    In a related note: Seattle’s defense is VERY over rated.

  94. 94 Corry said at 5:06 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Sometimes getting released and losing your job is the kick in the pants you need to start focusing better.

  95. 95 scratcherk said at 11:50 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    another reason PFF sucks:

    https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/914852521088360448

  96. 96 SteveH said at 1:21 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    What dangerous throws? The only one I can think of is the one he heaved towards Marcus Johnson in the end zone, and that was a jump ball type deal.

    PFF has a real hate boner for Wentz it seems.

  97. 97 Gary Barnes said at 2:10 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I do not remember who the WR was on another play, but Wentz threw into double coverage and it should have been picked. I believe it was in the first half.

    Criticism of Wentz is ok, no QB is perfect especially in their second year. I’m confident Wentz can handle whatever comes anyway.

  98. 98 RogerPodacter said at 2:11 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    i thought that one of the throws to the endzone near the end of the game was somewhat ill advised, but its hard to get a good view of it from the TV feed.
    yes, i realize i’m splitting hairs on this one.

  99. 99 ChoTime said at 2:14 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    72 correlates to about average performance for an NFL starter in their system. Wentz’s 91 QB rating would have ranked about 16th in the NFL last year

    So given the 72 means average, and the QB rating is about average, what’s crazy or biased or weird about the PFF grade?

  100. 100 Tumtum said at 2:30 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    You saw a bunch of dangerous throws? Do they clearly don’t take into account his ability to move in and out of the pocket, or his ability to make the cross body throw to Blount early on.

    Sure no rating system does, but they don’t really admit flaw in their ratings do they?

  101. 101 ChoTime said at 5:36 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Why is it a flaw that a single number rating doesn’t capture the entirety of a player’s performance? I don’t think you’d run into many stats guys who say it does.

  102. 102 laeagle said at 7:47 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    When your single number rating indicates that a shitty QB like Kizer had a game on par with Wentz yesterday (in which he was VERY, VERY good, even if it doesn’t show up on the stats), your single number rating isn’t capturing anything worthwhile at all about a player’s performance. Then your single number rating has no point for even existing. Combine that with a textual “analysis” that’s based on watching broadcast footage, and you have a steaming pile of horseshit.

    I know it’s popular to bash on those guys, but sometimes things are popular for a reason. They are classic examples of what happens when you cannot ever admit you are wrong because of “losing face”; what happens is, you turn into a giant asshole. (not you, but them, I mean).

  103. 103 ChoTime said at 9:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yeah. Well, sometimes there are anomalous results, but that does sound very bad. I would hope they can explain why they got that result and try to understand why it happened. Of course you know some of the best QB ratings of all time belong to punters because they hit a TD on their one attempt of the year, for example 🙂

    Back in the mid-late Reid years, the Eagles were always near the top of Football Outsiders’ DVOA, even while not winning a huge amount of games, to the point that it was a big bone of contention. However, in the end they usually did perform well enough to seemingly validate the results (for example, in 2008, when they were maybe a play away from the Superbowl).

  104. 104 Tumtum said at 10:37 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It is a flaw when they make the rating and then follow it up with narrative as if Wentz had a bad game.

  105. 105 laeagle said at 3:03 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I think the problem is that they gave Kizer a similar grade. That’s just nuts.

  106. 106 ChoTime said at 5:41 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    You mean in week 1? He had respectable stats that game, but JaredGoff2016 stats since.

  107. 107 sonofdman said at 6:06 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    No. For yesterday’s game. The one in which Kizer and Cleveland almost got shut out by Cincy.

  108. 108 ChoTime said at 7:18 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Looks like he had a 43 QB rating. Apparently he had 5 drops, and those aren’t factored into his performance? But that does look pretty bad. I’ve never been interested in PFF’s stuff, so I don’t have anything more than that…

  109. 109 Tumtum said at 2:29 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    That was the only one for sure, and fully intended, as you say.

  110. 110 P_P_K said at 4:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’ve never heard that expression before. If it’s not copywritten I’ll be using it.

  111. 111 A_T_G said at 10:57 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Do not visualize an angry erection with a C in a circle stamped on it. It is not a pretty visual.

  112. 112 Tumtum said at 2:27 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Carson sucks….

    Workin on my stand up, how did I do?

  113. 113 RC5000 said at 5:51 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yup. I thought Wentz played one of his best games despite the stats and he had some nice audibles. He had a “mature” game . Better blocking and a running game help.

  114. 114 xeynon said at 11:56 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    That 68 yard Blount run was a thing of beauty. For a 250 pound runner, he’s got pretty good speed and change-of-direction ability, and he is a load to tackle when he gets up a head of steam. He absolutely destroyed Desmond King on that play. I hope to see more of the Eagles pounding demoralized defenses into submission in the 4th quarter using him.

  115. 115 Tom33 said at 11:57 AM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’ve watched the replay of that run about 20 times this morning already!

  116. 116 Sb2bowl said at 1:34 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It was great- he made people miss, and made people hurt. Glad he’s playing like he can

  117. 117 Tumtum said at 2:26 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    The kinda cool thing about Blount is that he doesn’t really take any big shots at all. He gives out the punishment, doesn’t seem to to take it. Like there are backs that break tackles and shrug off huge hits. He is the one it feels like that initiates contact. By the end of the game (when we actually use him more than 5-7 times, there are guys that just aren’t really willing to even try and square up.

    All Blount really has to do is jump over a half assed low attempt and he has so much room.

    I love it.

  118. 118 bsuperfi said at 2:50 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    This description of big backs who take big hits reminds me of Eddie George. That guy could run, but he was so upright that he sometimes took some nasty shots. It’s a shame–I really like watching him (and the rest of that Titans team) play.

  119. 119 RobNE said at 3:51 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Earl Campbell.

  120. 120 sonofdman said at 12:08 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’ll share credit for that. I had them in my suicide pool also.

  121. 121 sonofdman said at 12:08 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    And I was playing against Cam Newton in fantasy.

  122. 122 Ryan Rambo said at 12:39 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    https://youtu.be/DGUT3GInsAI

  123. 123 RogerPodacter said at 1:00 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    cool breakdown of the Alshon TD

  124. 124 anon said at 1:35 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Lots of hate for Philly Blount last couple of weeks. That shit is undeniable right now. Also super clear HPV was the issue with the line, run blocking is way better right now.

    Propose benching Smith. Put in Mack truck on the outside.

  125. 125 A_T_G said at 2:16 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Sem, not HPV, but otherwise agreed. I was down on Blount in the preseason. It appears now he was pacing himself.

  126. 126 Tumtum said at 2:21 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I feel like everyone is loving Blount right now, aren’t they? First couple weeks I certainly agree with you. Now the haters have receded into the dark. As soon as he has a bad game they will be back in force.

    Think by HPV you meant Seo.

    Can’t bench Smith, he is like the leader of the offense oddly enough.

  127. 127 ChoTime said at 5:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I had thought he was overrated, and did a statistical comparison with Ryan Mathews (who I think is underrated). What surprised me is that he actually measured up quite well, although of course their strengths are slightly different. The fact that he’s not injured helps, too.

  128. 128 37OHSSV_O773H said at 3:02 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Blount looked like Lynch in full beast mode.

  129. 129 GermanEagle said at 3:51 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Any [injury] news on Fitzzzzzz?! Last night an Eagles fan seem to have predicted his career ending, but I can’t find any related news…

  130. 130 CrackSammich said at 4:57 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I have no news, but it looked like a collar bone break from the way he feel.

  131. 131 Sean E said at 5:13 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Huh? I thought he caught the game winner?

  132. 132 Ark87 said at 5:18 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He got hurt making the game winning catch, was pretty awkward, everyone is cheering like crazy and a legend that is basically their Dawk, can’t get off the turf. But to be fair they may have mistaken him being super emotional or something I suppose.

  133. 133 Ark87 said at 5:15 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    So apparently the Chargers are stuck in that hell hole until 2020 when that mystical stadium they get to share with the Rams is complete. Why did they make the move so many years before they would have a home?

  134. 134 or____ said at 5:39 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I believe the welcome had long expired in San Diego and it was like, no really, we will kill you if you don’t leave by the time we finish this breath…

  135. 135 Dave said at 6:30 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    For the same reason the Rams left St. Louis. They are vying against each other to build a fan base in LA. Plus they both burned every bridge with their respective former cities/fans.

    The Raiders cannot move to Vegas for 3 years because there is no available stadium that meets the minimum NFL standards in Vegas.

  136. 136 DJH said at 6:11 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Question for those of you who recorded the game:

    On the final drive, Smith caught a pass and feel 1 yard short of the first. I think the first set of downs, maybe the second. It’s obviously moot (or mute) now, but watching live it didn’t look like he was touched down. Looked like he could have hopped up and ran it to the house.

    Can anyone confirm or deny?

  137. 137 sonofdman said at 6:15 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    After listening to Stockton and Schlereth yesterday, I wish it was mute.

    (Sorry, don’t know the answer to your actual question)

  138. 138 A_T_G said at 6:19 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    You are not alone…
    https://twitter.com/jimmykempski/status/914614926865338369

  139. 139 Dave said at 6:22 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I just flipped on the game and watched in slow motion. Torrey caught it falling forward in a kneeling position. He rolled over on his back and Trevor Williams (24) clearly reached out and touched Torrey on the side of his thigh just above his knee.

  140. 140 laeagle said at 7:42 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    “Mute: 1) silent, refraining from speech or utterance. 2) Not emitting or having sound of any kind.”

    Just to be clear, a point cannot ever in the history of things that make sense, ever be “mute”. You cannot render a concept or idea incapable of speaking, because that makes no sense. A point can be **moot**. It cannot be **mute** any more than a religion or cup or sock or fantasy or piece of paper or turd can be “mute”.

    I want to find whoever started the “point is mute” fallacy and punch him in the face. He should of kept his mouth shut. (sic)

  141. 141 DJH said at 8:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    None other than Dougie P uttered the phrase this offseason.

  142. 142 laeagle said at 8:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’m glad I missed that. It’s an unforgiveable offense.

  143. 143 ChoTime said at 9:27 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Dug actually said “mute,” not “moot”?

    If so, I’m going to switch from neutral to being a hater.

  144. 144 Dude said at 10:47 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I need to moot your comments. Dug runs the ball. Dug is my guy.

  145. 145 Guy Media said at 9:30 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    https://www.crossingbroad.com/2016/08/both-howie-roseman-and-doug-pederson-give-the-ol-no-comment-on-lane-johnson.html

    scroll down for “mute”

  146. 146 DJH said at 8:29 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    And today he hit us with “pound and ground” when describing the Eagles offense. Heh.

  147. 147 A_T_G said at 6:17 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Who was saying the Denver run D was bad yesterday?
    https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/914634093626839041

  148. 148 A_T_G said at 6:21 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    And a little something for the analytics guys…
    https://twitter.com/jimmykempski/status/914632228147040256

  149. 149 ChoTime said at 7:19 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It’s interesting that we have two 0-4 teams in our past schedule so far, isn’t it? Of course, we contributed to that, but it is something to think about.

  150. 150 Bert's Bells said at 7:20 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Division opponents, even if they’re 0-15, are always tough games.

  151. 151 Corry said at 7:48 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Yeah but PFF has them at 4-0 with their proprietary mysterious algorithm that none of us are allowed to know.

  152. 152 Ark87 said at 9:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    But they play the Chargers next week so, someone will finally win a game?

  153. 153 scratcherk said at 8:49 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Ugh. Are the skins actually decent? Better than the other two I guess

  154. 154 SteveH said at 9:02 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Well they’ve come out and punched the Chiefs in the mouth early anyhow. Surprisingly. The Chiefs kind of look like ass early here.

  155. 155 daveH said at 9:07 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I like how Cousins is ready to play from the very start !

  156. 156 Guy Media said at 9:20 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    No. They’re BS, their fans are BS, and both Oakland and KC choking to them is BS.

  157. 157 GermanEagle said at 9:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    They’re the second best team in the NFC. Behind the Eagles that is.

  158. 158 Guy Media said at 9:29 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’d rather the Giants, Washington, and Dallas be the 14th, 15th, and 16th worst teams in the NFC.

  159. 159 ChoTime said at 9:25 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    They were previously ranked like #5 by DVOA, so yeah, it appears that they are decent.

  160. 160 SteveH said at 9:11 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Think Desmond King had some nightmares about getting hit by a freight train or an 18 wheeler last night?

    Here’s Merril’s runaway train call in case you haven’t heard it:

    https://soundcloud.com/nickpiccone/blount-run

  161. 161 Bert's Bells said at 9:22 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I understand calling football might be difficult, but Reese is just awful. Counting down by five and shouting does poor service to the play.

  162. 162 GermanEagle said at 9:34 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    What did you just say?

  163. 163 Bert's Bells said at 9:38 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Reese stinks.

  164. 164 Guy Media said at 9:39 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Blasphemer

  165. 165 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:42 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Go away.

  166. 166 GermanEagle said at 9:45 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Oh boy. Get ready to get stoned for saying that. Take care..

  167. 167 Ark87 said at 9:49 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Wow, I’ve never heard of anyone regarding Merrill as anything less than a Philadelphia treasure. Have you always disliked him?

  168. 168 Bert's Bells said at 8:46 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Only after listening to him for 8 seasons before Sunday ticket.

  169. 169 Dude said at 10:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I have on several occasions had to follow the Eagles on the radio. I dare you to listen to a whole game called by Merrill and claim that you missed something.

    Most radio announcers are lucky to get the personnel right. Merrill gives you that, the set, the motions; he’ll tell you what the crowd is doing, he’s that descriptive. And he could even do it during the Chip era.

    His passion and love for the Eagles are clear in his voice. If you’re excited about a touchdown, Merrill is on cloud 9. You remember a great play or a great game. Merrill remembers all of them. All of them. And he salts that knowledge in during his broadcast at the right times.

    In short, you, sir, are an idiot.

  170. 170 Tumtum said at 10:40 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Wow I thought for sure he meant Ike

  171. 171 Bert's Bells said at 8:48 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    I listened for years. He’s all schtick. He does get down and distance about 75% of the time which probably pit’s him in the upper echelon of play by play guys.

  172. 172 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:48 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Kempski at his best… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9d47f6f69426ade8f6b803abb91adc0cac88a25324e12ac98cc995cc026a606.png

  173. 173 Ark87 said at 9:50 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    It’s like a green sunshine that grew heads and stole someone’s fanny pack…I like it

  174. 174 Tumtum said at 10:07 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    He can do better. Blount is clearly the center head.

  175. 175 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:21 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I particularly like the stiff arm.

  176. 176 scratcherk said at 10:26 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    always frustrated me how andy could never run a qb sneak. such as tonight when they’re half a yard from the end zone. anyway, glad dougie can.

  177. 177 iceberg584 said at 10:28 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Well, it’s hard to complain about design on that QB option run by Smith.

  178. 178 scratcherk said at 10:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    agreed, just a general point

  179. 179 sonofdman said at 11:26 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I can complain. He stole Hunt’s TD, which I need right now.

  180. 180 Howie Littlefinger said at 10:47 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    yeah but Who’s stopping a6’5 240+ ginger giant with god on his side

    That guy gets the ball on 4th and 1 every time

  181. 181 scratcherk said at 10:32 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    ugh skins.

  182. 182 Howie Littlefinger said at 10:44 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Classic Big Red game

  183. 183 Howie Littlefinger said at 10:45 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’m starting to think the redskins are … good?

  184. 184 iceberg584 said at 11:02 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    We might get them without Norman in a few weeks.

  185. 185 Howie Littlefinger said at 11:14 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Its been a good week for football

    and even if they do end up winning they will be having a week 4 bye week! We all know how that goes

  186. 186 Ark87 said at 11:02 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Uhg, I always hit a wall on these “prime time” games around now. These schedules are bull shit for someone living on the east coast with a job. Well, hopefully I get to wake up and find out Big Red pulled this one out.

  187. 187 Nailed It! said at 11:07 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Kareem Hunt is such a stud it’s crazy

  188. 188 Howie Littlefinger said at 11:14 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I don’t watch a lot of college football but tonight I made an exception

  189. 189 daveH said at 11:20 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    There wasn’t 1 Jacksass Chiefs fan in the entire stadium doing that Chief Chop in unison…
    What a bunch of dicks.
    Chiefs Redskins and not 1 player kneels out of respect for the sad abuse of the American Indian.

  190. 190 Tumtum said at 12:00 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Marcus Peters sat. If anyone did kneel for that reason would anyone know that was the cause… not unless they talked about it, which in turn makes it all about them (meaning they are a douche).

  191. 191 daveH said at 7:23 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Indeed.

  192. 192 sonofdman said at 11:31 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Do these idiots still not understand that if the ball comes out when the receiver goes to the ground, it is incomplete?

  193. 193 daveH said at 11:33 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I hate every second of rooting for the chiefs

  194. 194 scratcherk said at 11:35 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’ll root for them any time I’m not rooting for the eagles.

  195. 195 kajomo said at 11:36 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I’ll always root for AR

  196. 196 daveH said at 11:38 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Ha no way. .nothings better than seeing him with a great great great Chiefs team ffffduck it all up and lose his 1st playoff game each season

  197. 197 Howie Littlefinger said at 11:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Nothing is better than seeing our former great coach fuck up? Dude:

    Cowboys, Giants, Patriots, Redskins and Cowboys all lost this week while our team won.

    THATS BETTER by far in my book

  198. 198 daveH said at 7:25 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Yeah those are better. Way better.

  199. 199 daveH said at 12:24 PM on October 3rd, 2017:

    (And watching Dawkins, Westbrook and TO highlights )

  200. 200 daveH said at 11:36 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Not with TE Kelce eagles wing flapping after he scores

  201. 201 Howie Littlefinger said at 11:48 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    To be clear I think he really did that to mock Kelce but he has Alex Smith and we have Wentz

    I think we win that one next time on our field or in LA

  202. 202 Tumtum said at 11:57 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    As much as I dislike that ass, I love Andy more. Go Cheifs!

  203. 203 scratcherk said at 11:43 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Alright fellas. First place eagles!. Woot

  204. 204 FairOaks said at 11:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Wonder how many bets changed on that last play

  205. 205 Tumtum said at 11:54 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Welllll we were first no matter what.

  206. 206 scratcherk said at 11:56 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Quiet u

  207. 207 sonofdman said at 11:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    LOL. The Chiefs just covered!

  208. 208 FairOaks said at 1:11 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    I think it changed the over/under as well. And probably changed a bunch of fantasy games on the last play of the week.

  209. 209 Howie Littlefinger said at 11:46 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Suck it Washington Football Team

  210. 210 ChoTime said at 11:47 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    So close, Redskins, so close.

    https://youtu.be/J8KJe8Ugtd8?t=6s

  211. 211 sonofdman said at 11:48 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Perfect!

  212. 212 Tumtum said at 11:54 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    I don’t know Blues (?). Really good song. Maybe I should do some exploring.

  213. 213 ChoTime said at 12:01 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Aw man, Fats Domino was a classic. Definitely check him out. Not really blues, but more like pop music with that blues background. I believe at that time they called the genre “Race.” (it wasn’t PC)

  214. 214 or____ said at 12:06 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Not pc, kinda like the team names tonight

  215. 215 A_T_G said at 12:59 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    I was hoping KC would get caught with 12 men on the field so the official could announce “Too many Chiefs, not enough Indians. 5 yard penalty.”

  216. 216 Tumtum said at 3:34 PM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Oooo riskay. I listened to him on the way in to work today. I am diggin it.

  217. 217 Sean E said at 11:49 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Can’t believe the bad manners of Justin Houston. Funny tho!

  218. 218 Tumtum said at 12:01 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    All about them stats baby.

  219. 219 FairOaks said at 1:10 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Defensive players don’t get a chance for a TD all that often. Pretty hard to fault that.

  220. 220 iceberg584 said at 11:50 PM on October 2nd, 2017:

    Thanks Andy!

  221. 221 SteveH said at 12:00 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Staying up late alllllll worth it to see the Washteam go home with a loss.

    I hate how fast Kirk Cousins can run. Where the fuck did those feels come from.

  222. 222 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:06 AM on October 3rd, 2017:

    Gruden kinda threw Kurt under the bus at his pc lol