Mr. Right

Posted: October 16th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 182 Comments »

It is easy to look around the NFL right now and feel that Doug Pederson is doing one heck of a job. He should be getting more credit than he is for the Eagles hot start.

Look at the Giants. Ben McAdoo helped them go 11-5 last year and expectations were sky high this season. Right now they are 1-5. A lot of things went right for the Giants last year. This season McAdoo has had to deal with all kinds of issues and hasn’t been able to push any of the right buttons. He’s got players openly quitting on him. That is a terrible sign for a coach only in his second season.

Part of the problem is that McAdoo inherited a veteran QB and the organization wanted to win right away. They signed a lot of free agents rather than trying to build a core of players. They went with the mercenary route. That worked great last year, but not so much in 2017.

Whether fair or not, McAdoo has become a punching bag for fans and the media.

There are all kinds of problems in Cleveland. The team didn’t see Carson Wentz as worthy of a high pick in the 2016 draft so they gladly traded back with the Eagles. The Browns aren’t the first team to miss on a QB, but they are a mess because they have so little that is going right. They are 1-21 since passing on Wentz and haven’t built anything special. They don’t have a dominant OL. They don’t have a shutdown secondary. There isn’t some fierce pass rush.

Now we’re hearing reports that Hue Jackson wanted to and expected to draft Deshaun Watson back in April. He and team management clearly weren’t on the same page and they traded the 12th overall pick to the Texans, who then selected Watson.

Jackson does not have a good roster, but also hasn’t exactly gotten the most out of the group.

The Bucs are a disappointing 2-3. Dirk Koetter won’t be mistaken for Vince Lombardi anytime soon.

The Raiders went 12-4 last year, but are off to a 2-4 start this season. Jack Del Rio is catching some flak for his team’s struggles.

Pederson has the Eagles off to a 5-1 start. His young QB is playing at a high level. Things look good in the short term and for the long term. Pederson has shown a good feel for game management, motivating his team and developing young talent. Pederson is pushing the right buttons.

Go back to Andy Reid’s first few years. He was trying to build a winning team and establishing the right culture. Reid was aggressive and creative. Everyone remembers the onside kick against Dallas. He used that tactic in other games. The Eagles ran some brilliant fake FGs back in those days. There was a fake punt that turned into a long TD for Brian Dawkins in 2002.

There were trick plays on offense. Torrance Small had two pass attempts in 1999. Duce Staley had one. Brian Mitchell was 1 for 4 as a passer in 2000. Donovan McNabb caught some passes. In 2002, James Thrash ran the ball 18 times.

Pederson is aggressive in his own way. He goes for it on 4th down as much as any coach in the league. He’s not afraid to take chances. Pederson went for 2 after the Eagles scored to take a 16-10 lead on Thursday night. These moves can have strategic value, but the players also love them. They like having a coach who will take some chances. In this regard, Doug Pederson is more like Chip Kelly than Chip Kelly ever was.

The Eagles have been good enough on offense that they haven’t really had to do all the gadget stuff that Reid did. Pederson has done a bit of that, but not too much.

Pederson is getting the most out of his players, whether offense, defense or STs. Nelson Agholor is actually playing like a 1st round pick. Jake Elliott has been amazing as a replacement kicker. LeGarrette Blount is averaging more than 5 yards per carry and is playing at a high level. Patrick Robinson was a veteran minimum signing and he’s playing some of the best football of his career.

Pederson isn’t going over positional details with each of these players, but he has created the overall atmosphere that has allowed players to thrive. Pederson has shown a good knack for knowing how to handle players. When Lane Johnson got suspended last year, Pederson put rookie Halapoulivaati Vaitai in as the starting RT. This looked like a bad decision after the first game. Pederson didn’t panic and Vaitai got a better each week.

While Pederson is patient, he’s also realistic. He made Isaac Seumalo the starting LG in the summer. The coaches felt Seumalo played well enough as a rookie that they needed to get him on the field. Seumalo was up and down in the preseason and then struggled for two games in the regular season. Pederson decided to bench him and go with a combination of Stefen Wisniewski and Chance Warmack. After three games of platooning them, Pederson went with Wiz.

The coaches wanted to see both players in action. They hoped Warmack would impress and earn more reps. That didn’t happen so Wiz got the job. Pederson was patient enough to let things play out, but reasonable enough to not force the issue when it was clear Wiz was the better player.

Players love that. They want a chance to show what they can do on the field. They want a chance to compete. Players also want to know they won’t be benched at the first mistake. Pederson has done a really good job of handling these situations so far.

Pederson also seems to be on the same page with both the personnel department and his coaching staff. That isn’t to say it is all sunshine and rainbows (or chocolate pudding and PBR), but the differences tend to be small and they get worked out.

One of the benefits of the up and down 2016 season is that Pederson showed he could handle adversity. There was the Sam Bradford trade a week before the season started. There was the Johnson suspension. There was the meltdown in Dallas. There was pretty much Agholor’s entire season. There was the debacle in Cincinnati. There was going for 2 vs the Ravens, not getting it and losing. Pederson developed some thick skin and that should help him and the team going forward.

Jeffrey Lurie is getting everything he hoped for when he hired Pederson.

A winning team.

A young QB who looks like a star in the making.

A cohesive organization with a strong culture.

Pederson has to show that he can guide the Eagles to more than just a fast start, but this sure has the vibe of a playoff team and there is every reason to be encouraged about the next few months and years.

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  • Atvcar

    1st 😉

    • Sean E

      damnit

  • Flyin

    What fun it would be for the teacher and the pupil to face off in the big game.

    • Stephen E.

      That would be a great SB. I don’t care what kind of fan you are!

  • Howie Littlefinger

    The Giants were able to run on Denver. We should be able to as well.

    Carson is great on 3rd down but deserves some specific recognition for how he converts so many 3rd and longs. He is the new “Madden QB”. Its just fun to watch and must be so demoralizing for opposing defenses.

    • FairOaks

      Cowboys weren’t able to run on Denver. Why should we? 😉

      I guess you can never be sure what the matchups would bring. Giants shuffled their OL and it seemed to make a difference — or maybe they were harder to gameplan since that wasn’t on tape.

      In the end, it can be hard to predict week to week what the matchups will let you do, and predict based on another team what yours can do. Denver could well have been reading the papers about the Giants disorganization, and all the injured WRs, and not put in the same preparation they normally do. And maybe they will learn from that and make sure not to make the same mistake against us.

    • Guy Media

      Denver is an embarrassing bunch of miscreants who just put a rather large pot of money from a suicide pool to sleep on me. I hope the rest of their season holds misfortune of every possible type.

    • kajomo

      It to mention Emmanuel Sanders just got hurt. He is the type of WR thatcan tear up our CBs. If he misses the game I don’t think the Broncos can score enough to keep up with us

      • Howie Littlefinger

        Truth! saw that and didn’t make the connection

  • Flyin

    This team is playing as a team which is the greatest strength a team can have. As noted in earlier posts, the sum is greater than the parts,

  • Insomniac

    So here’s some nightmare inducing food for thought. What if we stuck with Chip?

    Do we get Wentz or are we stuck with Bradford?

    We’re stuck in a 3-4 with Billy Davis or his replacement (lets be real no one wants to work with Chip). Graham never plays DE again and doesn’t get to where he is today. Well maybe Curry continues to play very well in the 3-4 so maybe there’s that?

    Rowe and Matthews would never be traded. So we don’t get Darby from the Matthews trade. Rowe would be a starter but seeing how he can’t play worth a damn with a defensive genius scheming for him, it’s fair to say he still won’t be good.

    Bennie Logan gets resigned, which means no Jernigan. Which would contribute to another year of no pass rush.

    Barwin gets resigned? Love the guy but he wasn’t the same pass rusher in his last year here compared to before. We would also not sign Bradham because of the 3-4 and no connection to Schwartz.

    Ah yes the OL. Lets not think about that, but here’s a reminder that the donkey only drafted one OL and didn’t bother trying to fix it in his time here. No Brandon Brooks because OG is apparently plug in play according to him.

    JP probably would have left the team for a contender because screw Chip Kelly and his offense.

    We let Demarco Murray stay because Chip wants to make an example out of him to stick it to the media. Another aha I’m so smart moment by Chip but he still runs Murray on sweeps and stretch runs 9 times a game..

    Ags never finds his hands again and makes the HoF as the most productive stump for hands WR of all time. Jordan Matthews is second and Josh Huff is in third.

    I didn’t expect Doug to be this good and I’m pleasantly surprised at the strides this team has made. Give credit where credit is due because we could have been stuck with much worse situations.

    Also obligatory Chip Kelly bashing because the Broncos lost.

    • ColorSgt

      I don’t like this game, and I need to sleep. These nightmares are going to turn me into an insomniac.

      • Mac

        +1

    • Sb2bowl

      When we hired chip, I thought he was going to be amazing; turns out he was an uncompromising ego maniac with social anxiety tendencies.

      In another dimension, he’s still our coach, we’re 1-5, and Bradford is contemplating retirement while taking up $25m of our cap each year for the next 3 years.

      Thanks for this troubling thought early on a Monday

      • Insomniac

        Anything to make Mondays more miserable!

    • wee2424

      Remember Chip was GM as well. There is no way he would have jettisoned the guys he brought in to get Wentz. Even if he were willing too I don’t think he would have had the savy to pull the trades off.

      He would have continued to destroy this team leaving the city in football hell for god knows how long.

  • Masked Man

    Doug Pederson is a Coach of the Year candidate right now. Also have to give credit to McVay with the LA Rams too at this point. Those are the two most surprising Win-Loss records of 2017 to date. Biggest year to year turnarounds.

    • Dragon_Eagle

      If Todd Bowles keeps the Jets competitive, he also deserves a nod.

      • Masked Man

        Agree. Don’t you ever sleep, Dragon?

        • Dragon_Eagle

          No. Off to work, now.

          • Masked Man

            Go Eagles!

    • Howie Littlefinger

      Yeah maybe both can thank the Bills come January lol

  • Guy Media

    This is not me saying we should be 14-2 but other than @ Seattle I’m not going to be much in the mood for a loss in any game left on our schedule. That 100% starts with a must-win vs. Washington on Monday night. We need to put a stranglehold on this division by putting Washing down 2.5 games and holding a 2-0 tiebreaker over them for the division title.

    And the combo of Denver, San Fran, Dallas(2), Chicago, Rams, Raiders, and Giants can all kiss my grits; they’re trash this year.

    • Masked Man

      The Eagles look like they could win 7-8 of the next 10 games!

      • Guy Media

        That would be an amazing outcome, but a very tall order indeed. I guess we’ll find out how ready this team is to be the type of team that wins almost all of their “should” win games. I had them at 10ish for the season with the division title being a big “maybe”, but not much more than that. But it needs to start with a win vs. Washington on Monday. And I’m not interested in any of that “it’s hard to beat a team twice” crap, as they beat us 5 times in a row.

        • Masked Man

          Yeah, Washington in 7 days. But I am counting on them for 12 wins now. My preseason prediction was 10 wins. But as of Thursday they exceeded my expectations. So I raised the bar on them a couple more games.

          • Guy Media

            This team has clearly been handling their business and I’m lacking respect for anybody left on our schedule other than Seattle. But I just want to get Monday night taken care of properly.

    • GermanEagle

      *look above

      • Guy Media

        Luckily, my bluster doesn’t make it into the locker room. WIN OR DIE!

    • Sb2bowl

      Take care of divisional and conference games; play one at a time. We “should” go 7-3 over the next 10, maybe 6-4. Even if we finish 11-5, we’ll be hosting a playoff game come January.

      But, as you stated- take care of Waste team on Monday night. And keep the foot on the gas pedal.

  • GermanEagle

    THIS is just a friendly reminder that there are no gimmies in the NFL.

    *Thanks to me for changing my survivor pick from the Pats to Broncos…*facepalm

    • Geoff

      I feel you… last year I made a playoff bracket with the Pats winning it all (it hurt to do that, but I couldn’t see anyone else winning). But I let my wife pressure me into changing it to Kansas City because she hates the Pats even more than I do.
      Btw, who the heck are the Broncos this year??? Kill the cowboys, dominated by the Giants???

    • Guy Media

      Denver’s screw up = our free lesson to not screw up.

  • Gary Barnes

    I’m still skeptical until we win a playoff game – things are definitely going in the right direction, but the media and fans tend to over-react both to losing and winning. Eagles are somewhere in between and we will not know for sure until it is one and done time.

    • wee2424

      Yeah, going against another playoff caliber team with a young but impressive QB who has never felt the pressure or atmosphere of a playoff game before. At least Wentz has the right type of personality and DP had had experience calling plays in the playoffs with KC. I believe Schwartz does too, but he is a veteran regardless.

      • Gary Barnes

        I’ve just been burned too many times with Eagles teams that look great at certain times of a season and then lay an egg when it counts most. This Eagles regime, like all the others before them, need to prove they can win something significant before I’ll be fully on board. All looks good now, but there is a long way to go before we can achieve the goal we all want.

    • Mitchell

      Totally fair however I will say this year feels different than previous. I feel as though the Eagles are winning games which would have been won by the opponent in years past. There’s nothing lucky or bizarre about how they are winning, just good solid football including: not turning the ball over, converting on 3rd down, getting a running game going, involving multiple recievers and a dominant DL in a defense that will get better once Darby returns. Overall Im pleased but until they win a playoff game, it doesnt mean much.

      • Gary Barnes

        Agree it “feels” different than recent years, but like you said it does not mean much until we start achieving tangible goals i.e. win the division, win a playoff game etc. that prove we can back up the talk.

        Last season we beat the Steelers, Vikes and Falcons; games that few thought we could yet we missed the playoffs and finished 7-9. We’ll see if this season turns out to be different.

      • anon

        Feels different because we are 5-1. Everything feels different when you’re winning.

    • RC5000

      Skeptical about what specifically?

  • P_P_K

    Will Eagles be #1 in this week’s Power rankings?

    • Bert’s Bells

      It’s now clearly the Giants.

      • P_P_K

        They’re undefeated with ODB out of the lineup.

        • FairOaks

          ODB missed their first game 😉

    • GermanEagle

      Who cares?!

      I am sure that Lurie has already ordered Power Rankings #1 rings for all the players…

      • daveH

        How many weeks ahead does one have to order Week 5 Power Rankings 1 rings. . ?

        • GermanEagle

          1 week.

      • Sb2bowl

        Hopefully they have “The Gold Standard” stamped across the base

      • P_P_K

        Who cares? Me cares and so do all my Eagles brothers up here in Pats country. It’s a pleasure to find anything to brag about. It’s been a long, hard bunch of years. We’ll take what we can get.

        • GermanEagle

          I was kidding, mate. 😉

          • P_P_K

            Of all people, GermanEagle, I would have thought you would know better than to kid about such a sensitive subject.

            p.s. Me, too. 😉 }}}

  • wee2424

    I never thought I would say this (would not believe they were a top 4 team like many rankings had us), but I think we would have to be either #2 or #3, dare I say #1.

  • wee2424

    The great thing regarding the game against Washington is that this team probably hates Washington more then any other team in the league. I don’t see 5-1 going to anybody’s head.

    • Stephen E.

      It used to be the Giants whenever anyone asked, but yeah, finally getting that first win after 5 losses in a row? They probably aren’t done getting revenge.

      • iceberg584

        Plus the Redskins have been a notably dirty team over the past few years. (besides the well-known fight in 2014 after the Chris Baker hit, there was the fight after Sproles was hit in the head while fielding a punt last season).

      • wee2424

        Not to mention that the Skins are 2nd in the NFCE so I’m sure considering the history with the Skins the players want to make damn sure that they out of all teams do not catch up. Add the fact that out of all teams they do not want the Skins to come to their house and beat them on prime time television.

  • eagleyankfan

    Wasn’t McAHairDoo the Eagles 1st choice?

    • or____

      Any “we knew their first choice” is speculation/rumors at best. I think Gase was their first interview target anyhow.

      interview order does not tell you priority of preference anyhow.

      • Bert’s Bells

        I think Duce was actually the first interview, wasn’t he?

        • or____

          Good point, but I believe that the cumulative count of people who believed that was legit was zero, including Duce. I love him, especially as a coach, and am pumped he’s our RB coach. In fact, a facial expression of his is my fantasy football team logo.

          • Bert’s Bells

            Right on. I was just making a point of fact.

            Lurie did him a solid by giving him the chance to interview. He clearly deserves the shot.

        • Someguy77

          He was but if you are the first candidate being interviewed for a meaningful position your chances of getting it are incredibly low.

          Not much better to be the last candidate either if they are doing a dozen interviews.

      • Sb2bowl

        Gase wanted personnel control, and we weren’t going down that route again after the Chip fiasco.

        • Masked Man

          Nope. An outsider may never have that much control again. As a matter of fact, Howie may keep that level of control for life.

      • FairOaks

        Pederson was quickly identified as the “leading candidate” shortly after Kelly was fired, I think. We interviewed Staley first, but Pederson was identified that way before we interviewed anyone else (or even before names came out).

        It’s possible Pederson’s interview did not go as well as hoped, and the Eagles were then more seriously looking around at other options, but sure seemed like he was their initial preference before the interview, at least.

        http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/01/eagles_coaching_rumors_doug_pederson_leading_candi.html

        • or____

          Perhaps. I still say we know nothing concretely. A lot gets jumbled int he media interpretations/speculation/rumors. And really, who cares? It’s years later and we’re in first place.

          • ChoTime

            But we have to know who was Wrong!

            If only these guys wrote tell-all books, I would totally buy them.

          • or____

            Well we know the giants were wrong (so far) for hiring Macadooodoo….right?

            Haha, I mean, the alternative is accepting that we just don’t and won’t know some things….

          • ChoTime

            I haven’t really analyzed the Giants. How many games did they win last year? How many of their starters are injured this year?

    • Patrick

      I think our first choice was Adam Gase, but also that we really wanted to interview Doug, and then the Dolphins just kinda got Gase done before and we weren’t willing to match, at least before conducting due diligence, which we couldn’t do without talking to Pederson, who was still in the playoffs.

      Maybe afterwards, McAdoo and Pederson were the 2 most likely. Apparently we weren’t after Hue Jackson at all, and IIRC we interview Dirk Koetter, who Tampa then hired, and the Lions and Bengals DC’s Austin and Guenther.

      Jury is still out, but once line i saw at one point that I think was a pretty good one: Pederson might not have been the best choice in the moment we made the hire, but has slowly been developing into quite a good hire. its obviously disregarding the whole potential talk, and purely looking at who was the best in the moment, but can now be brought back to potential and whether Doug can turn into a SB winning coach.

      Credit to Douggy P. Hue Jackson seemed like a perfect candidate. HC experience, development of players on his offense and creating a tremendous offense as an OC, but he actually seems to be slowly burning out after being hailed last season. Some weird decision being made, both regarding rosters and starters, particularly Kizer, but also just plain in game coaching. Gase is a weird one. Dolphins look like a shitshow and lost their QB who to begin with wasnt that good, but they’re 3-2 and they were actually good last year.

      You never know. Hell, as Tommy wrote a little while back about Andy Reids Chiefs being the best team in the league based on a strong 3-4 defense and a run heavy offense with kinda gimmicky pass concepts. You know, exactly what he was doing in Philly. Or not.

  • xmbk

    I wonder if Morelli’s crew calls even one penalty against Carolina if they knew the Eagles would go for 2. Probably was just the token “look, we called a penalty on them”. Eagles were so dialed in they only needed 1 penalty.

    • FairOaks

      I think they called an illegal formation (declined) and delay of game (wiped out by an Eagles personal foul) on Carolina as well. It wasn’t that horribly blatant of not calling against Carolina at all — it was just that it seemed they called marginal penalties against the Eagles, and never Carolina, which (since both teams were playing in that area) mean it was lopsided against us.

      Morelli does seem to have somewhat of a bias for the home team. But the worst ones, by far, were in the two most recent Eagles games. The two previous to that (also on the road) were also somewhat lopsided, just not as bad. The time before that, in 2012 against the Panthers, we had him at home — and he called 6 penalties for 101 yards on them, and 5 penalties for 30 yards on us, so it was biased in our favor that game.

      Most of his games don’t have a dramatic difference like that, but most do seem to call slight more on the road team. His second worst game last year he called 11 penalties for 106 yards against the road 49ers, and 5 penalties for 40 yards against the home Bears. The rest of his games were closer. But yes, the last two games he has done with the Eagles are grossly out of whack — and they were games the Eagles were not desperately holding on to stay in, but rather carried the play.

  • Someguy77

    Rodgers’ injury really changes the dynamic of the NFC. Doubt the Packers even make the playoffs now and there isn’t a team in the NFC Central that is that decent. Maybe the Vikings with that defense but too many question marks on offense.

    Maybe the Panthers are a better team than showed on Thurs but it seems the Falcons, Seahawks, and Eagles are clearly better than the rest of the NFC.

    Makes the game in Seattle on Dec 3rd that much more interesting including as a possible NFC playoff game and even possibly a significant game as to who gets a 1st round bye.

  • Someguy77

    Balance:

    What really struck me looking at some of the Eagles’ early stats is how they have had only 1 100+ rushing or receiving game by a player so far (Blount with 136 rushing yards vs Rams).

    You would think that if I had told you that before the season that this team would be 4-2/3-3 right now instead of 5-1.

    • Someguy77

      Wentz has already had 3 300+ passing games already too. Just spreading the ball around.

      Last year, the Eagles had 2 100+ receiving games through the first 6 games (Matthews with 114 yds vs Browns in Week 1; Sproles with 128 yds vs Steelers in Week 3).

      Went on to have 6 100+ rushing or receiving games – 2 100+ rushing yard games by Mathews and 4 100+ passing yard games (Matthews; Sproles, 2 Ertz) last year. Went 4-2 in those games (Browns; Steelers; Falcons; @ Skins; @ Ravens; Cowboys).

    • Sb2bowl

      Did I miss the Rams game?

      • Stephen E.

        Yes, the San Diego Rams.

        • Sb2bowl

          They have Geoff Rivers as their QB, right?

  • DrGeniusPhD

    You could also say “Jeffrey Lurie is getting everything he hoped for when he re-hired Howie Roseman.”

    • Sb2bowl

      Howie 2.0 certainly is an upgrade over the original. Hopefully we can sustain this success.

      • P_P_K

        Carson was the draw to the inside straight. since he’s a winning hand, Howie takes the pot. If he was a bust, Howie would have lost big.

        • Tumtum

          Oh yeah. He was all-in.

          *edit*****IS***** all-in

        • Bert’s Bells

          Right. That’s the nature of the business. You take a big risk, you get big rewards —or big failure.

          Some of it is luck, some of it is “putting yourself in a position to win”.

        • Sb2bowl

          He is great with big-picture views; knew the landscape, all of the teams potentially looking for a QB, and pulled the trigger when they zeroed in on the one that they wanted.

          He went all in, knowing that his career rested on the shoulders of a man-child from North Dakota. Howie may be small in stature, but he gives Big-Balls Doug a run for his money in the cajones department.

          • ChoTime

            Unknown how ballsy it was, since Big Daddy Lurie was bankrolling him and had his back. Regardless, everything is looking roses right now.

          • Sb2bowl

            Lurie seems like a patient man, but if this doesn’t work out I don’t know how long that leash extends.

          • Howie Littlefinger

            I agree Cho, He was kinda playing with house money but still.
            If we win a game in January he should probably be executive of the year

          • ChoTime

            I don’t mind Howie and Dug as GM and Coach of the year, assuming everything goes as it currently is (it probably won’t but I am having fun).

        • unhinged

          I would be very interested in who was the loudest voice in the building pushing for CW. Not underestimating HR, but he’s smart enough to know that he needs input from a lot of folks to pitch to the owner. And Lurie has been vocal about the frustration of being competitive but never good enough. Maybe CW was an easy sell because Lurie liked him from the get-go.
          If Wentz was to be a bust though, I really wonder if HR would have to pay. The owner values him, and picking winners is an inexact science.

        • Someguy77

          Apt analogy

          • P_P_K

            Got my start playing in the high school cafeteria.

  • GermanEagle

    So who thinks that Curry is still as good as gone next year?!

    • FairOaks

      We may have to decide between Curry and Jernigan. Would be nice not to, but dollars may be tight. Graham will be pushing for an extension too, I’m sure. It’s hard to pay four players big $$$ all across the DL.

      Cox’ cap number jumps to 17.9 million next year (from 9 mil this year). Curry goes from 9 to 11. Graham will be 7.5 (though maybe higher if he hits some of his incentives). Do we want to keep Jernigan? He’s probably 10+ AAV, though you can always play games that first year to keep the cap number low. Extend Graham? How much money can you devote to the DL? Hicks/Kendricks/Bradham are also not cheap to keep together. At some point you are probably planning on Barnett replacing either Graham or Curry. When and which one? Howie has his cap work cut out — and we may have to lose players we want to keep. Something has to give somewhere. We may need to extend Darby as well, etc.

      • Tumtum

        Trust in Howie. It just seems like if there are 2 guys we just can’t live without, we won’t have to.

      • RC5000

        Jernigan. He stabilized the defense with Cox out and he’s 4 years younger than Curry to boot. Plus we drafted Barnett in the 1st. We have depth at DT but Jernigan is 2nd best clearly.

        • Guy Media

          Yes

    • Sean E

      He needs to be restructured to stay. I don’t like him making more than BG.

    • Tumtum

      Don’t have a feel yet. Didn’t think he was going anywhere this year though. I would hope he is willing to accept a restructure that is more in-line with his production and write off the first 2 years as free money.

      This of course is all subject to change. I could really see him getting double digit sacks this year. If that happens he has no incentive to restructure.

      • D3FB

        You think he’s going to go from 1 sack in 6 games to 9 sacks in 10?

        • Insomniac

          Not saying it can’t happen but not going to complain if it does happen.

        • Tumtum

          Dear god no, I don’t “think” he will. It is something that could happen, and would make my other points moot, so I qualified it. If I remember what I wrote…lol.

    • Sb2bowl

      Still hard to say. He’s got an $11m cap number next year; I could see them restructuring him to lower that number next year. He’s a good player, but they are paying him at an above average rate.

    • D3FB

      HI

      You don’t pay $11 mil for run defense DEs.

    • Guy Media

      I still do. I think he balks at a reduction.

  • anon

    Breeland and Norman pay be out this week??

    • GermanEagle

      I read two weeks ago that Norman was almost certainly going to miss the Eagles games.

      Haven’t seen any update on the recently injured Breeland though..

    • kajomo

      Jonathan Allen is going to miss the game too

  • Ryan Rambo

    Nice!!

    Free agent CB Nolan Carroll is working out for the Redskins on Monday.

    • wee2424

      So Smith is toasting Carrol next Monday?

    • Tumtum

      Nice indeed.

    • GermanEagle

      Ah, I see! The Skins trying to copycat the Eagles by signing the former players of their upcoming opponent the previous week. *Smart

      • A_T_G

        And they can’t even do that right. Lolskins.

  • GermanEagle

    Jonathan Allen to miss the Eagles game. Feel almost like playing the WR- less…

  • Howie Littlefinger

    Howie deserves some credit but how about MR Lurie:

    Fires Chip
    Un Banishes Howie (Almost everyone thought this was dumb, but not me 😉
    Hires Dougie P

    Give that man his due. He just wants to win. Such an underrated owner.

    • daveH

      Philly Philly.

  • ChoTime

    On the Herd, Colin opined: “The Eagles have a loaded roster.”

    Wow! Is this true? I remember in our offseason debates, there was a mix of the usual optimism and strong skepticism, especially regarding CBs, OL, RB, (and QB). But we are getting strong performances out of Wentz, Blount, the OL, and the CBs are not causing us to lose and even making some nice plays. So are we loaded? Or is it just that everything looks good when you’re winning?

    • Mac

      I would say the roster is decent. I might even be tempted to say that we could be watching the best defense in the league if it weren’t for the injury to Darby. The D-line is Superbowl worthy.

    • Bert’s Bells

      A little of both.

      You get LBs playing to their potential, debatably the top safety tandem (even pre-season), a notorious pass rush. That’s “talent” across the defense. Plus Darby. Plus the JAGs at corner holding their own.

      On offense, B+ plus line that generally ranks highly. And good skill players that are looking great with WEntz. Ertz is the poster boy here. Blount and the RBs, to me, are still a question mark but they’re looking good.

      And one more thing, Donnie JOWNS.

    • Dave

      I think a lot of the offensive success is due to Kelce’s return to form from 3+ years ago. He surprisingly went from a weak link to a strength. When he failed, the whole offense was ineffective.

      As for defense, LB play has been much better and the scheme to keep the CBs from giving up the big play (big cushions, safeties over the top) has not been exploited yet. CB is still a huge concern.

      Compared to other contenders, I’d say we are deep.

    • Ark87

      Things are just going right, almost everyone is the best version of themselves right now. You know things are going well when your kicker gets hurt, so you pick up a random dude who kicks like a random dude until a crazy game winner and then suddenly can’t miss and now the injury gave us a younger and better kicker.

      But it’s not all luck. We’ve had a slew of key injuries and Pete MorellI and we are still winning. Right now you either feel like the Eagles are a team of destiny, or that this is a dream and reality is lurking.

      • A_T_G

        I wonder if we can turn that into a verb.

        “The canoe trip was fun until we both reached over the side and Morellied it.”
        “I got Morellied by the lights this morning and was 20 minutes late.”
        “The barber Morellied my haircut and now I have to hold my head at an angle to hide it.”
        “My book report wasn’t long enough, so I tried to Morelli it when I printed it. The teacher noticed there was nothing on the back though.”

        Or, more opaquely, “She Morellied that jawn.”

      • daveH

        “You know things are going well when your kicker gets hurt, so you pick up a random dude who kicks like a random dude until a crazy game winner and then suddenly can’t miss and now the injury gave us a younger and better kicker.”

        poetry. Sofa king good.
        Whers the save best igglesblitz entries function on my StarTac

      • Someguy77

        Lost a bet today – Elliott has made as more 50+ yards FGs (3-4 including the 61-yard game winner) already this year as Akers ever did here in an entire season (Akers made 2 50-yard FGs multiple times but never 3)

        Parker was 4-4 from 50+ yards in 2014; Sturgis was 4-6 from 50+ yards in 2016.

    • Someguy77

      Used to listen to him occasionally but he seems to have gone the Jim Rome route and just goes with pure hyperbole.

    • SteveH

      This is Colin’s way of minimizing Wentz’ impact on things. The only position we’re loaded at is DL.

      Our WR’s are average (finally), we have a good tight end but our backups are marginal (Burton) or fairly ineffective at this point in their career (Celek).

      Our OL has Peters and Johnson, but before the season no one was saying Kelce or Wiz was much of anything, and Brooks was a good if not pro bowl good guard.

      Linebacker we had Hicks, but people were leaving Kendricks for dead and Bradham has always been solid if not spectacular.

      Cornerback I don’t even need to discuss, and safety Jenkins is a strong player, Mcleod is a decent one.

      Basically a bunch of guys who no one would have mentioned as “loaded roster” type players before the season are playing well this year (Kendricks, Kelce, Wizniewski, Mills, Robinson, Agholor) and that’s helping us a lot.

  • P_P_K
    • Mac

      I signed and I’m sharing this.

      • P_P_K

        Make it something the NFL has to pay attention to.

  • unhinged

    Giants have gone mercenary in large part because their FO has been mailing it in. I am no big fan of McAdoo, but he strikes me as better at coaching than Jerry Reese is at team building.

    • Dave

      I think their problems started when McAdoo went from simply head coach to hipster head coach this summer 😉

      https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/mcadoo.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

      • ChoTime

        He is a funny looking dude. In a few years, he’ll look more like Mike Ditka and that is always a good thing.

        • Dave

          This is an awesome lede from the post:

          “Ben McAdoo has gone from Benny with the Good Hair to Benny with the Slick New ’Do.

          The Giants’ 39-year-old head coach — whose high-school haircut drew heat from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on radio last season and inspired a nickname scrawled on a Barstool Sports T-shirt —showed up for the start of minicamp Tuesday with an unreal, slicked back fade that Fox sports host Duke Castiglione aptly suggested may have been inspired by Miami Heat president Pat Riley.

          Perhaps McAdoo is trying out as Ponyboy in a remake of “The Outsiders.”

          http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/giants-coach-ben-mcadoo-sports-new-slicked-back-haircut-article-1.3244448

          • A_T_G

            I feel like I survived for 40 years thinking the term was “lead” because I had never seen it written to reading it a dozen times in the past few weeks. Weird.

          • Dave

            Ditto!

          • FairOaks

            The original term was “lead”. The alternate spelling has gradually gotten more popular I guess, as there were other uses of “lead” in newsrooms, and the “lede” spelling is specific to the lead paragraph of an article.

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/bury-the-lede-versus-lead

          • Bert’s Bells

            I think it has more to with monotype printsetting than the newsroom, per se.

          • FairOaks

            Sounds like it was to distinguish the lead paragraph term from the term (named for the metal) for the strip of metal between lines of type ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading ). But per the above-linked article, the spelling “lede” really didn’t start until that type of typesetting was being phased out, for whatever reason, in the 1970s — and didn’t really become popular on the Internet until the last 10 years or so.

          • SteveH

            Again, I think there’s some subtle pretension in using “lede”, kind of an insider’s knowledge thing going on. That’s handy info though I didn’t realize that it didn’t become popularized until that late.

          • FairOaks

            Oh, I think that is absolutely the most likely reason it got popular in more common usage the last 10 years. There are some out there calling out the pretentiousness and pointedly still use “lead”.

          • ChoTime

            Weird, I had never noticed “lede” before, but now it’s in my repertoire. I will only use it when talking with Millennials, though.

          • SteveH

            You can use either interchangeably and no one will crucify you for it. Most of my professors just kind of shrug their shoulders and say either one works, though personally I think using “lede” is a bit more pretentious because it makes you seem like you know the industry while remaining confusing to people outside the industry.

        • Someguy77

          Look like Ditka? Nah. Don’t see it.

          Ditka has a more pronounced and broader nose and a more roundish face.

    • Guy Media

      Jerry Reece is a complete dolt.

  • GermanEagle

    OH no!!!!

    “Source: after LB Jordan Hicks left Thursday’s win with an ankle injury, Eagles worked out LBs Donald Butler, Jelani Jenkins & Sean Spence.”

    I really wish Doug P. would stop offering his injury ‘insight’. He’s rarely been right.

    • or____

      Now now, lets jump to conclusions….

    • Guy Media

      I’d be good with Spence if we needed an extra LB in a pinch.

    • anon

      Not Bowman?

      • GermanEagle

        He signed with Raiders.

  • FairOaks

    And keep Barnett as a backup?

    • Guy Media

      That’s the other vital shoe. I’d like starters snaps out of the guy we took at a premium pick.

  • Someguy77

    Funny how Wentz got so much hype early on last after the Eagles jumped out to that 3-0 start yet he isn’t getting it this year despite his play being so much better.

    Imagine he will if this team continues to play so well and goes into the bye at 8-1 or 7-2.

    • Masked Man

      “Wentz is on pace to throw for ~4200 yards, 35 TDs, 8 INTs.”

      Is there anybody else on pace to do better with wins to go with it?

      • BobSmith77

        I would have to look but Alex Smith and Brady are on pace to exceed those numbers. Brees is also on pace for a big year too although really hard to see the Saints winning more than 9-10 games.

        Need to look at Cousins’ numbers too. He has played well since the matchup with the Eagles.

    • SteveH

      I think Wentz is a little below MVP level right now, maybe in that 2nd tier of quarterbacks. That could change though, he might get better or worse as the season goes along, but honestly as long as he doesn’t get significantly worse we have to be happy with what he’s doing.

    • ChoTime

      He’s getting crazy hype, man–at least relatively. National radio commenters like Colin Cowherd consistently giving him props. Here in Arizona, local guys are mentioning him as well.

  • Someguy77

    Is DeShaun Watson as good as some of the early hype/reports are out on him?

    One the reporters on the WFAN today said he one of the best QBs in the AFC already.

    • SteveH

      I haven’t watched a ton of him but what I have seen looks like the typical mixed bag from a rookie with talent. Some plays where you scratch your head, other times making wow throws.

      I think he looks like the real deal though, even if it is early. He has command and poise, can make tough throws, has the kind of athleticism that drives people nuts.

      As for one of the best in the AFC, his competition probably isn’t the stiffest in the world. Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, Trevor Siemian, Jacoby Brissett, Jay Cutler, Josh McCown, Matt Cassell…. This isn’t exactly a murderers row of quarterbacks to be compared to.

      • anon

        Can’t tell until year 2. But Clemson coach calls him jordan

    • Guy Media

      RGJr. He’s had a ton of INTs dropped. That’ll catch up with him one the league gets some tape on him.

    • ChoTime

      Way too early to tell. He’ll probably have to learn a lot to stay ahead of the D-coordinators.

    • dandynator

      There is dfinitively something special about this kid

  • A_T_G

    One nice side effect of the Broncos collapse yesterday…
    https://twitter.com/jeffskversky/status/919924614280687618

    • SteveH

      If we could minimize some of these QB runs we’d be historically good, because actual running backs can’t do shit against us.

      • daveH

        Let em run … just don’t let them run ob

  • GermanEagle

    Damn

    Succitup Just kicked his 47th consecutive field goal from inside the 50 yard line. That’s kinda decent (and a new NFL record).

    • anon

      Crazy given the old record was on the old goal posts

      • FairOaks

        They moved the goal posts back, but a 50 yarder was still a 50 yarder (just from the 40 yard line instead of 50). The main thing that changed was the minimum length FG was about 18, instead of 8.

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Random note after yesterday’s entertainment.

    Although it obviously helps the Eagles, I truly regret the loss of Aaron Rodgers for the rest of the season. He’s a great player and not having him there every Sunday weakens the quality of the games.

    That said…and here’s the random thought…don’t count the Packers out at all. Hundley is unknown to everyone outside of Green Bay. Coming in cold like that off the bench against a top flight defense is not easy. Hundley could well turn out to be a real gem and keep the Packers competitive. He’s been there a few years and should know the system. The team has talent and it would only be mildly surprising if Green Bay hung on to claim the division.

    Then again, maybe he craps the bed.

    • P_P_K

      I’ve shouted out to a Cheesehead buddy and asked him if the Packers had any kind of timeframe for Hundley to get on the field, regardless of the injury. Probably not, ARodg wasn’t that old.

      • daveH

        It’s ok to call him ARod ..

    • ChoTime

      You know D3FB was big on Hundley coming out. He’s had time to work on his stuff, who knows what could happen?

    • daveH

      I think Hundley will be good

    • wee2424

      Idk, while I liked Hundley coming out(really wanted the Birds to get him) there is a reason as to why the Packers were willing to trade him in only his second year in a league that demands a good backup QB.

  • Ryan Rambo

    NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Redskins K Dustin Hopkins (hip) is week to week.
    He’s out for Week 7 against the Eagles on Monday Night Football, so the Redskins will be signing a kicker. Hopkins has turned into one of the better fantasy kickers since settling in with the Redskins in 2015.

  • Insomniac

    It’s a shame Eagles legend Frank Gore won’t get a ring when we win it all this year 🙁

    • wee2424

      F Chip Kelly.

  • wee2424

    Am I strange for calculating my comment to thumbs up ratio?

    • Tumtum

      Yep. But I’ll thumbs up since you are into that sort of thing.

      • wee2424

        Lol, and the ratio improves!!!! Anyone wanna add? On second thought I might be upset with myself because it sort of feels like cheating.

        • or____

          As long as it stops there and doesn’t go to “thunbs up… my/your butt….” level…you’re probably ok

          • wee2424

            Lol, for the record it takes me 30 seconds to calculate and I do not harp on it afterwards.

            I occasionally get bored at work.

    • ChoTime

      Is the ratio to total posts or to thumbs’ downs?