Afternoon Updates – Kolb Finally Traded

Posted: July 28th, 2011 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 99 Comments »

First, some new news.  Kevin Acee of the San Diego Times Union reported on Twitter that the Eagles are one of 3 finalists for RB Darren Sproles.  We’re competing with New Orleans and San Diego.

This is interesting news.  We just signed a bunch of UDFA running backs that are medium to small sized.  They are athletic and shifty.  They can catch and some have RS ability.  That describes Sproles as well.

Sproles is an explosive playmaker.  One out of 16 touches (rush or reception) in his career results in a gain of 20 or more yards.  Oddly, he’s never had a run of 40 or more yards.  I love the thought of  adding Sproles for his ability as a RS.  He has 2 career PR TDs and 2 career KOR TDs.

I like the idea of adding him on offense, but I was hoping for a player who would offer more impact in the Red Zone.  Sproles isn’t going to make much of a difference down there.  He is dangerous in space, but won’t run over many defenders when he’s in tight quarters.

Sproles would give Big Red and Marty another toy to work into the offense.  Those guys do love their playmakers.  No word on which one of the 3 teams is in the lead for Sproles right now.

Darren’s stats at

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Adam Caplan, and others, are reporting the Kolb deal is done.  We get DRC and a 2nd rounder.  Nice.

Kolb is reportedly getting 5 years for $63M with $20M of that guaranteed.  Wow.  Good for Kevin.

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Jason LaCanfora tweeted that Winston Justice will start on the PUP list.  He can be taken off that at any time.  Not a huge deal, but something to watch.

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ProFootballTalk is reporting that Vick and the Eagles are discussing a long term deal.  We knew this was going to happen.  Good news.  PFT speculates the deal could help create some Cap room for the Eagles this summer.  Maybe Sam can elaborate, but I think the Eagles have plenty of money to spend.  They’re looking for the right targets.

99 Comments on “Afternoon Updates – Kolb Finally Traded”

  1. 1 Iskar36 said at 3:10 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Is there any logical advantage to putting Justice on the PUP list? Do the eagles need to do that for any official reason? I’m under the impression that his injury shouldn’t be too much of a concern in terms of the start of the season, but I’m just confused as to why put him on the PUP list now.

  2. 2 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:13 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Eagles start guys on PUP list about every year. If they aren’t able to practice now, there is no reason not to put them on. Physically Unable to Perform.

    Should something go wrong or the injury not heal as expected, the player can stay on the PUP list into the season and still have hopes of playing later on.

    Smart move. Nothing tricky or complicated. No cheating or any weird angles. Just being cautious.

  3. 3 nicolajNN said at 3:15 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Honestly I wanted Sproles the last 3 years, I hope we get him. It’s interesting that after having tried to get a big back for the last few years we are now adding smaller guys.
    On the red-zone thing, how good was Shady there and isn’t it possible that he will improve more down there?

    Good for Kevin and very good for us.

  4. 4 Iowa Eagle said at 3:17 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I believe Kolb will be a pretty good QB, but doesn’t it sound like we pulled off a hell of a deal when you put it this way… “Philadelphia Eagles trade their 2nd string QB to Arizona for DRC and 2nd rounder in 2012..” nice.

  5. 5 eddie said at 3:21 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    tommy, now that the roster limit is 90, how close are we at that limit? also with he pervious limit it seemed like the lower level players didn’t get enough reps, now with even more players sharing the already small reps those players got, do you think it will affect those players; for example Sapp, T’eo, our 3rd string QB, 3rd, 4th, 5th string RB, Etc

  6. 6 Mike said at 3:23 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Don’t forget, Todd Herremans started on the PUP last year with his foot and everyone made a big deal about it. Herremans started the season and was fine. Although, the Winston thing does feel a little different than Todd’s situation last year, based on Winston’s comments yesterday (I know Tommy, players are the worst source for info).

    So far today we added two pro-bowlers to our defense. Now sign Sproles and Tulloch and I’ll be a happy man.

    It’s a shame about Hanesworth, he could have added a major impact to our D-line.

    Tommy, the back-up QB market is thin, I don’t want Vince Young but who else is out there? I’m not big on Delhomme. Is Seneca Wallace available?

  7. 7 Thunderlips said at 3:24 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Nice news on the Kolb front. We’ll now have back to back picks (#32 and #33) in the 2012 draft.

  8. 8 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:25 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The guys at the bottom of the roster won’t get many reps at all. They also will get limited attention from coaches. In the past the coaches got to work with them in May, June without starters around. That helped the young/new guys.

    Now, every man for himself. Guys better perform at a high level if they expect reps and attention.

  9. 9 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:25 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @ Thunderlips…

    I like that. Well done sir.

  10. 10 Arby said at 3:26 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sproles? Really??
    What is this: “Revenge of the Smurfs”?

  11. 11 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:27 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Funny tweet from Andrew Siciliano:

    “In the last 18 months, the Eagles have traded two QB’s for two 2nd round picks, a 4th round pick, and a 25-yr old CB with 13 career INT’s.”

  12. 12 TheDriver said at 3:29 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Hey Tommy, been reading you for years. Eagles fans are lucky to have you.

    So, now that the Eagles have a cheap DRC on the roster, what do they do with all this cap room?

    Are there any under-the-radar guys they might add – that is, some names that might not have been previously linked to the team?


  13. 13 Thorin said at 3:31 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    You know, Derek always used to hope and pray for the Eagles to sign a short yardage back too. They never do. Every summer we hear about how they’re going to go get a bigger back to supplement their shifty starter, and I can’t remember it ever happening (unless you count the cursed FB).

  14. 14 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:36 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @ Thorin…

    Eagles have tried. Mike Bell was the power runner last year. Tony Hunt in 2007. Charles Scott was drafted to be the long term power runner.

    Eagles are lousy at getting a guy and using him or just pick terrible guys.

  15. 15 McG said at 3:38 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I know most of you don’t like it… but I’ve been banging the Sproles drum for awhile now. I will be happy if we get him, maybe Havili makes the squad as our 3rd RB?

  16. 16 Tommy Lawlor said at 3:42 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Havili might factor in at RB. Possible.

    RE: LBs in practice today (from Twitter)


    MLB – Casey Matthews
    SLB – Moise Fokou
    WLB – Jamar Chaney

  17. 17 coldtaxi said at 3:45 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The Eagles website twitter account just posted that Casey Matthews is lining up with the 1s at MLB for the first practice of training camp. Hold on for an exciting year!

  18. 18 CVD said at 3:46 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    How can u not love it. We got a probowl corner and probowl dend and still have a lot of cap space if we wanted to use it. Not to mention we picked up a 2nd round pick.

    I think Kolb is a good QB but he may have a tough time in AZ. They better get some good olinemen, or I will be hearing a lot of told u so’s from people

  19. 19 McG said at 3:49 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    And the winner is… Tommy!

    I think at some point he predicted those 3 as our starters…

    Is it too early to be pumped about young smart football players getting their shot?

  20. 20 McG said at 3:51 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @ CVD

    There are some amongst Eagle fans who seemed to have the idea that we were going to purchase a superbowl this year. I think you hit the nail on the head… this is something to love.

    Plenty of cap space to make Vick, Jackson, and Cole the deals they deserve. I read somewhere that Vick and the Eagles FO are already working on his new deal.

  21. 21 nzflyer said at 3:56 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    Now can everyone put the Kolb for Petersen talk away and admit they were wrong. Don’t know how many times Tommy told yous, yet still you persisted. If those are the exact details for the trade, I think that is great for everyone, for us, the cards, even for both Kolb and DRC.

    And then the news that we’ve agreed to terms with Babin, excellent. Now just waiting on Big Al to come to us. Come on Shanny, we’ll trade you Parker(We have Babin plus depth to fit that) straight up Big Al. Thanks

  22. 22 Gotta hate the Cowboys said at 3:57 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Tommy, thanks for all your insight into everything you write, you help the avg. guy look beyond the every day decisions that go into creating a team. Any ideas on a RT if Justice can’t go this year? Anyone you would advise to pick up in FA?

  23. 23 nzflyer said at 4:04 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Oh yeah,

    Im still on the Portis train. Just can’t shake that I think this will be a good fit for him

  24. 24 eagles nut said at 4:06 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The Eagles will either re-sign Bradley or sign another veteran MLB. Whoever they sign can’t practice until August 4th so it’s a good opportunity for Matthews to get reps with the starters.

  25. 25 nicolajNN said at 4:09 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Having watched footage on PE. com it is Fokou at WLB and Chaney at SLB. I saw them shifting to have Chaney covering Ingram

  26. 26 Iowa Eagle said at 4:23 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Can’t watch pratice at work, since we got the D Line and Secondary picture more in focus could you do an article about LB’s Practice today and any other thoughts on the LB situation.


  27. 27 Shawn said at 4:30 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    “The Eagles are getting ripped off. There is no way in hell that a promising, potential franchise quarterback is worth only a second-round pick and a cornerback with motivational and tackling issues. Philadelphia should have easily been able to obtain Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a first-rounder. Rodgers-Cromartie is highly talented, but plays when he wants to play. That being said, the Eagles have gotten the most out of a similar character in Jason Peters, so maybe Andy Reid can work his magic on the former Tennessee State product.

    As for the Cardinals, they got their man. Kolb and Larry Fitzgerald have worked out a lot this offseason, so they’re familiar with each other. Kolb still has some growing to do, but he could easily develop into the franchise quarterback Arizona has been looking for since Kurt Warner’s retirement.”

    -Walter Football

  28. 28 Boyboy said at 4:36 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    More work to be done…

    Tommy, we often talk about MmmBop being a solid nickel back, but can we do better? Who is still out there?

    Reason I ask, is because the goal is to win a Championship. To me, if you can upgrade, do everything in your power to do so. Maybe Hanson is adequate, but is there someone out there who is better?

    I think the same thing along the offensive line. We don’t really have a center right now. I’m not counting on JJ and we don’t know what we have in Shipley. Who knows for sure at RT? Looks like Justice is going to the PUP.

    What about Saftey? That’s a lot of youth and…..Marlin Jackson. *sighs*

    LB? There again, no proven players.

    The idea isn’t to make moves to (just) make us better than last year, the idea is to make moves to make us better than the Packers this year.

    Does anyone believe that we’re better than the Packers right now?

    Like Ray Didinger used to say about our pre-T.O. wide receivers….”maybe this offense doesn’t need a true #1 WR, but it needs better receivers than are there now”. That applies to all positions. Speaking of which, the anti-Plaxico people like to mention that Riley Cooper is our #4 WR….what in the hell has he ever done to solidify himself? We NEED red zone help!

    We’re plenty of room under the cap, and re-working Vick’s contract will give us even more. We should be able to go out and sign just about anyone we want. I don’t want to hear that there aren’t players out there who aren’t better than what we have at certain positions now. That philosophy hasn’t netted us a Championship yet.

    just sayin

  29. 29 McG said at 4:49 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    More outside the box thinking… (that for the record I don’t think will actually happen)

    What if our starting o-line was:

    LT – Peters
    LG – Herremans
    C – Jackson
    RG – McGlynn
    RT – Watkins

    Again I highly doubt that is the plan, but, “what if” would it be terrible? Could Watkins beat out King Dunlap for the RT spot?

  30. 30 Dan said at 4:54 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    CB and DE can be crossed off the list.

    Next up:

    Backup QB
    Veteran Safety

  31. 31 Iowa Eagle said at 5:03 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Couldn’t we consider Marlin Jackson the “Verteran Saftey”?

  32. 32 Dan said at 5:05 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    As long as he doesn’t tear his ACL on the way to practice. Doesn’t he have a $5 mill salary? I’m surprised he didn’t get cut already.

  33. 33 Iowa Eagle said at 5:09 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Yeah I can’t believe we’re paying him $5mil, but Caplan and several others are really pushing the belief that he will have a great year… (If he avoids injury, like you said)

  34. 34 Jeppe said at 5:25 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The fact that we are allowed to have 3 QBs dressing gamenight must have a positive influence on our chances signing VY… While he is adjusting to the WCO we can have Kafka as backup…

  35. 35 CVD said at 5:30 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    As long as he doesn’t tear his ACL on the way to practice. .

    dude that is hilarious.

  36. 36 theguyotc said at 5:30 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Vince Young was just released by the Titans.

    Not sure if I’d want him, but he’s an experienced winning quarterback who we’d hope wouldn’t have to even see the field.

    And if the influence of Andy Reid and Mike Vick can’t get through to a guy, I doubt anyone could.

  37. 37 CVD said at 5:31 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    wait 5mill for marlin? r u sure? dude he is def getting cut if he is getting 5 mill. we can just sign tulloch and cut marlin.

  38. 38 CVD said at 5:35 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    The pace slowed down for a moment so we’re going to bring you one from left field. Our twitter follower @SkrPnchBoxing alerted us to some tweets from Vince Young’s friends congratulating him on his move to the Eagles. The tweets have since been removed. If he’s right, great scoop. If he’s wrong, don’t blame us

  39. 39 Dan said at 5:42 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sorry guys, Im not sure how much he is getting paid. It was a guess. I looked it up: he signed a two year 6 mill contract

  40. 40 ian no 2 said at 5:55 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Walter C agrees with my earlier comments against the DRC deal. It makes sense from a financial standpoint and I hope DRC bounces back, but leading the league in penalties and missed tackles is more than a matter of adding some more intensity or coming back from a bad year as Asante did. DRC is this year’s fig leaf after Sheldon’s expulsion from paradise. The Eagles have saved so much cap space but it remains to be seen how they can improve the team with it (RT?) and whether they will just get to the floor. At least they have a 2nd, what they paid for Kolb. I’d rather see Brandon Hughes out there than DRC, but as I said I hope for the best.

    If Sproles is signed, it means Buckley is probably gone, the second time Sproles has forced Buckley out into the street. If Sproles has indeed lost a step, then maybe the Eagles are better off with their stable of rookie scat backs.. Cooper can return punts and KOs and Locke and Devine can return KOs.

  41. 41 nzflyer said at 6:07 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Ocho to Pats. FUNNY!

  42. 42 eagles nut said at 6:22 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Schefter says Young is eyeing Eagles and we’re considered the favorites to sign him.

  43. 43 CVD said at 6:25 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    good news

    The Cowboys may have been clearing some dead weight from the roster and their cap, but Andre Brandt points out that they’re going to start the new league financial year with $21m of cap charges for the players they just cut loose. That’s got to sting

  44. 44 GermanEagle said at 6:26 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The Bears just traded TE Olsen to the Panthers! Wow, Carolina is really being aggressive!

  45. 45 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:29 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The whole Vince Young thing is pretty crazy. Great, great talent. Can he handle Philly? This place is pressure city.

    Andy knows what to do at QB. I trust him. That’s one position where he’s got a great track record.

  46. 46 Tommy Lawlor said at 6:30 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @ ian…

    2008 – DRC solid rookie year
    2009 – DRC was outstanding, one of best CBs in league
    2010 – DRC struggled

    Why is it that we focus on 2010 and ignore the other 2 years?

  47. 47 CVD said at 6:33 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    what the hell?? this has to be wrong

    The Eagles later confirmed the deal and said they were sending a 2012 second-round pick to Arizona

  48. 48 CVD said at 6:43 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    From what ive heard people say about him, DRC reminds me of a desean. I think when things are going bad, he is at his worst. When things are going good, he talks a lot of junk and is a stud. I don’t think that is a good thing, but now he is with a winner and he should play like he did in 08 and 09. I am very excited about him.

    Our defense is looking good right now. With our offence we should be playing with the lead most of the time. Cole and babin will be attacking and DRC and Asante will be looking for some picks

  49. 49 Iowa Eagle said at 6:49 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    The Eagles new what they were doing… no need to rush the Kolb trade if we new our 2nd string QB (VY) wasn’t getting released until the actual deadline (4PM Today) But we still managed to pull it off just before Young was cut…

  50. 50 Cowboys Suck said at 6:51 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Tommy Any idea on what they will do at RT? All we have there now is King D. With Justice hurt who knows. That to me is our biggest need because it’s the blindside for VICK. Nobody seems to be talking about RT for the Eagles? Is Justice going to be ok by the start of the year?

  51. 51 theguyotc said at 6:54 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    What’s your priority list at this point?

    1) Backup QB
    2) vet LB
    3) vet S
    4) Backup RB

  52. 52 Big Don said at 7:03 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sav to the skins?

  53. 53 Dewey said at 7:29 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Carolina being aggressive sucking. They overspent at RB (Stewart and D’Angelo? And Goodson isn’t too bad.

    Why would the worst team in the league spend all that money to stay the same.

    How about a true WR?

  54. 54 JonS said at 7:30 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    What about trading for Amobi Okoye?

  55. 55 Morton said at 7:49 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    It’s really too bad that Brandon Graham turned out to be a bust. This might have been an exciting defense if they hadn’t completely blown their 1st round, and two 3rd round picks from the 2010 draft.

    Everyone thought it was going to be Derrick Morgan or Earl Thomas, but the Eagles screwed it up. Now Morgan is probably going to look like a stud 4-3 LDE for the Titans that this team still needs (not sold on Babin returning) and Thomas is already looking like a perennial Pro Bowl safety that this team still needs (not sold on Jarrett or Allen).

    All the draft picks in the world don’t mean anything if you don’t know how to properly evaluate players.

    (and before anyone says something about Graham’s injury being an unpredictable event: he was a severly undersized kid playing defensive line. That is directly related to the injury which was likely caused by stress placed on the ligaments and the cartilage. I know it was a non-contact injury when it actually tore, but that entire region of the body is prone to aggravation from repeated stress. And also consider that Graham looked like a non-factor even before the injury. There’s simply no excuse for picking a projected 3-4 OLB instead of the stud FS (Thomas) or the consensus best 4-3 DE (Morgan) when given the opportunity.)

  56. 56 nzflyer said at 7:58 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    Go start your own team if your so fed up with what has happened. Everyone else is excited with what’s been happening(football in general) and here you are complaining. Get a grip.

    Graham has played one season, if everyone was judged on their first season then nearly everyone will be a bust to you.

  57. 57 netherman said at 8:00 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    rofl @ Morton…dude you are relentless. Anyone want some whipped horse pâté?

  58. 58 ian no 2 said at 8:01 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I’m already guessing who’ll give us a 2nd for Vince Young next Spring.

  59. 59 Jeun said at 8:05 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Derrick Morgan?
    That guy barely got on the field last year. Also, how much of an improvement (if any) is Thomas over Allen?

  60. 60 Dewey said at 8:05 PM on July 28th, 2011:




    Sour grapes for some reason?


    Typical TATER

  61. 61 netherman said at 8:06 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    “Graham has played one season, if everyone was judged on their first season then nearly everyone will be a bust to you.”

    Except for consensus top-DE Morgan who set the world on fire with a whopping 5 tackles total last year and 1.5 sacks.

  62. 62 Alex K said at 8:07 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @nzflyer: Morton is the designated killjoy, whose reputation at (RIP) precedes him. He can find the cloud in front of every silver lining. Personally, I think he’s Spadaro’s evil twin.

  63. 63 Iowa Eagle said at 8:17 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Anyone else notice that Winston Justice looks like he could be Lawrence Fishburne’s brother?

  64. 64 Cafone said at 8:18 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Dr. Morton advises that being undersized leads to non contact ACL tears.

  65. 65 Andrew said at 8:24 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I don’t even know why Morton is an Eagles fan, all he does is bitch.

  66. 66 netherman said at 8:24 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    “Dr. Morton advises that being undersized leads to non contact ACL tears.”

    And now that we know this, am I the only one worried about our WR core?

  67. 67 nzflyer said at 8:27 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @Alex K

    Thanks for letting me know. Maybe it has to do with an unknown mental illness ?

  68. 68 G$ said at 8:31 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Alex K, you made my day. Not just about Morton, but almost every comment writer at is a Negadelphian. Now I understand why Spadaro must exist — as an existential counterweight. Nature seeks balance.

  69. 69 Sokhar said at 8:49 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    “I don’t even know why Morton is an Eagles fan, all he does is bitch.”

    Re-read your quote and I’m sure you can figure it out. 😉 On a more serious note, just ignore the troll. Football is back and the Eagles have made a few moves. Think of it like a nude beach that actually has hot chicks walking around. Inevitably there’s gonna be one old, half-man/half-yeti walking around in a speedo (that would be Morton in this analogy, and perhaps in reality), but you can’t let it ruin all your fun. Just try not to look in that direction.

  70. 70 Alex K said at 8:52 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @nzflyer & G$: I think a stroll through Negadelphia is essential for every Eagles fan, but I wouldn’t want to live there.

    Unfortunately, while the rest of us are dancing in the streets after an Eagles Super Bowl win (this year, next, or whenever), there will be some who can only muster a: “well, at least they didn’t [foul] it up too badly . . . ” And that’s just sad.

  71. 71 CVD said at 8:53 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    dude u have issues. BG played better than any other rookie dend last year. care to argue that? but that aside, u got problems. this aint, we are actually eagle fans here

  72. 72 Alex K said at 8:54 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @Sokhar: LOL!

  73. 73 Naik said at 8:55 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Weaver cut for failing his physical …

  74. 74 nzflyer said at 8:58 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sad to see Weaver go. Even though it was expected. Hope he can get another shot somewhere else if his knee allows.

  75. 75 Alex K said at 9:09 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I’m getting convinced that Young could be the answer at backup QB, but I’m really not high on Sproles, other than as a RS. I think that he would require too much money, and McCoy is already a better Red Zone option, to piggyback on Tommy’s earlier comments.

  76. 76 mcud said at 9:12 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sorry to hear about Jeff Owens as well. If memory serves, he wrecked his knee on his very FIRST snap in the NFL. Poor kid…

  77. 77 nzflyer said at 9:13 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    @Alex K

    Totally agree with you on Sproles, I had a little interest with him before our UDFAs were signed, but now with the type of backs we have, if we were going to add a FA RB I want a different type of back. Someone who can excel at Pass blocking, hence why I am on the Portis train.

  78. 78 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:20 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    You guys are being harsh on Morton. His schtick is rusty due to the weird offseason. He lacks his normal subtletly.

  79. 79 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:23 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    RE: cuts

    Really hate to see Leonard Weaver go, but it had to be done. His tweets about rehabbing and playing this year … not realistic. I wish him the best. I just don’t want some fans to be mis-lead. Weaver suffered a devastating injury and has major issues to overcome. I hope he’s able to one-up JR Reed and come back even better than Reed did.

    Jeff Owens wasn’t going to be a great fit for the new scheme if 100% healthy. I do hate that in his first NFL game he tore up his knee while hustling in pursuit. Football can be a cruel mistress.

  80. 80 nzflyer said at 9:47 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    rumours have it that Weaver found out he was cut by a reporter?!?!?

    Not cool.

    Not cool at all.

  81. 81 Arby said at 9:53 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Some great guys leaving the team this week: Weaver, Akers, Q, Kolb and maybe Stew. Wow, what a week…

  82. 82 Arby said at 10:10 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    And now, Clark Judge is reporting Vince Young is on his way to Philly! Sounds like it’s happening. I’ll never forget his incredible performance in the college championship game a few years back. I thought he was a “can’t miss” superstar on the verge.

  83. 83 Arby said at 10:14 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Correction: “expected to sign”, not “on his way to Philly”

  84. 84 nzflyer said at 10:16 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    with Jonathan Joseph signing with the Texans, does that mean the spots left for NA are Dallas or Jets ? If he goes to the Jets, that may make their redzone a fortress, which means if they make the Superbowl to play us it will be mega chess playing(mega mega hard to beat him AND Revis. If he goes to Dallas, that means we have to play him alot, which would suck.

  85. 85 Iskar36 said at 10:21 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    If this is true, I am a fan of this move. I know Tommy has his concerns about Young, but honestly, of all the QBs that were available this offseason, I think Young is the one with the most pure talent. There is no question that there are legitimate concerns about him, particularly on the mental aspect of the game, but if he is going to succeed anywhere, it will be in Philly under Andy Reid. On top of that, the media aspect of things shouldn’t be too much of a problem for the time being at least. He is the back up QB, so at worst, no one will care about him, at best, just like any #2 QB, he will be the favorite person on the team.

  86. 86 iskar36 said at 10:25 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    Even if NA doesn’t go to the Jets, does Dallas even have the cap space to sign him?

  87. 87 Sjampen said at 10:31 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Regarding Vince Young, i recall that a certain Eagles QB said that he was lazy and got by with his pure talent when he was a Falcon. Now, Vince Young didnt go through a prison experience, yet at least, but the Eagles organisation and team can handle a lazy guy. I am however not happy with Vince Young bashing his team, causing a show on the sideline and being a me first player.

    If Vince just want a second chance to start over and be humble, working his ass off and learning from Mike Vick how to be a MVP, the fine. If hes still a selfish, loud, douchebag, then he can go play in Texas with the rest of them.

  88. 88 nzflyer said at 10:34 PM on July 28th, 2011:



    But with all the cuts they have been making, and with the window closing for NA(for a decent payday and a chance to be on an at least competitive team) would he maybe take a paycut to go to the Cowboys?

    How far below the cap are the Colts? that would be a good fit for him. And he would be far away from us. lol

  89. 89 Iskar36 said at 10:41 PM on July 28th, 2011:


    I don’t know the Jet’s cap space situation at all, but if it is close to or better than the Cowboy’s, I would guess the Jets would be the preferable team. At least last year, the Jets had a much better record, and you have to imagine that NA would love the chance to play on the same defense as Revis.

  90. 90 @iskar36 said at 10:50 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Yeah, But I wouldn’t want him to go to the Jets either, they are cocky enough as it is. I want him to go the Colts maybe. Give Peyton a decent D. But that D will still be beatable(which may not be able to be said if NA goes to the Jets).

  91. 91 Iowa Eagle said at 10:51 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    I know it’s getting old, but the Brett Farve rumor… TOMMY didn’t you say that sometimes Dave Spuds drops hints in his articles? What do you make of his latest one: “And look for the Eagles to continue to explore their options at quarterback. Vince Young was released by the Titans on Thursday, so maybe he is an option. Veteran Jake Delhomme is out there. Trent Edwards, too. Same with, um, Bre … oh, forget about it.” (Bre… I assume he was reffering to Brett?)

  92. 92 nzflyer said at 11:12 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Yeah, But I wouldn’t want him to go to the Jets either, they are cocky enough as it is. I want him to go the Colts maybe. Give Peyton a decent D. But that D will still be beatable(which may not be able to be said if NA goes to the Jets).

    *that was my incorrect post up there before. sorry

  93. 93 Flyin' said at 11:13 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Sproles is going to the Saints

  94. 94 Dan said at 11:14 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    Was there any reason why drc’s play fell off last year? Was it because they lost Rolle and Dansby? Will DRC play in the same coverage scheme ?

  95. 95 Hhghjshdidhd said at 11:24 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    5 years/ 50 mill for Jon Beason. Makes the 6 mill/season that Tulluch was offered look like a bargain.

  96. 96 Stephen said at 11:34 PM on July 28th, 2011:

    My dream of Patrick Peterson is finally dashed… Let it be known that I held out hope until the last…

    Darren Sproles would be amazing even if just for the RS play he would bring. Imo we have a lot of guys at RS but no real stud aside from Desean, who we really don’t want to expose too much out there.

  97. 97 Morton said at 12:03 AM on July 29th, 2011:

    You guys do realize that Brandon Graham is done as an NFL player in all likelihood, right?

    Very few players recover fully from microfracture surgery. A simple ACL/MCL tear can be recovered from within a year or two. Derrick Morgan will be back and playing this year, but I doubt we’ll ever see Graham playing in the NFL again. Therefore, he is a complete bust.

  98. 98 theguyotc said at 12:35 AM on July 29th, 2011:


    Excellent point. The Eagles should have seen the injury coming before they drafted him, and gotten someone else instead. I remember when you first posted how you hated the pick back on IgglesBlog, you mentioned how he’d get hurt late in his rookie season and never come back from it.

    The Eagles organization is truly missing out. I don’t know who their current psychic is, but they should fire him/her and hire you instead.

  99. 99 jernst said at 4:59 PM on July 29th, 2011:

    Depending on which literature you read 80-90% of pro athletes fully recover from standard acl repair. 60-70% recover from micro fracture surgery. Certainly, not an insignificant drop in recovery expectations, but according to Morton a 65% chance of full recovery is as good as certain to fail miserably.

    That’s just negative thinking. The part of your incessant rants about how the eagles should have seen this coming is just ludicrous. Injuries happen all the time in football, can’t predict them, especially a freak non contact injury like this.

    Also, from a medical perspective, the notion that an undersized DE would be more susceptible to cal tear is, quite frankly, retarded. And even if your load bearing stress logic was correct, it would logically follow that larger heavier players would be more susceptible to ligament tears as more weight would increase the stress on the joints.

    I guess McNabb tore his acl because he was such an undersized QB…