LB Update, Vol. 37

Posted: March 7th, 2012 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 80 Comments »

I put out more LB updates than Rush does live albums.  So let’s get to it.

Luke Kuechly – Not all that much to say here.  Proved at the Combine that he does have enough athleticism to warrant pick #15.  Eagles could be interested depending on how FA goes.

Mychal Kendricks – MLB from Cal.  Only goes 5’11, but is a solid 240.  MLB body.  Could play WLB for us, but too short for SAM.  If we do miss on our FA target at MLB and then someone snatches Luke prior to 15, Kendricks is a good alternate choice.  He showed very good athleticism at the Combine and posted top LB numbers in a few categories.

Kendricks is a good downhill LB, but also can be patient and read plays.  That ability means he could fit our system.  I think he could play right away, but that’s based more on perception than informed reality.  He played a lot in the last 3 years.  Had 29 starts.  Did a variety of things well, which leads you to believe he’s a quick learner and can adapt well.  Was a tackle machine in 2011 (107).  Was a sack machine in 2010 (8.5).  Had 4 INTs in his career.  Also in Kendricks favor, Cal has turned out some quality LBs in recent years.  Those guys are versatile and athletic.  If we do miss on Kuechly, Kendricks might be a guy we’d have to use a 2nd round pick on.

James-Michael Johnson – JMJ, as I like to call him.  Good season.  Good Senior Bowl.  Good Combine.  Good player.  6’1, 241.  Not as instinctive as Kuechly.  Not as athletic as Kendricks.  Just a good, solid MLB prospect.  Has a thick, powerful build.  Did have a 37 inch VJ so that shows you his lower body explosion.  You also see that on tape.  Had a great TFL in the bowl game when he read an end around and just blew up the WR for a big loss.

Value?  I think of him as a 3rd round target.  Ready to play?  This is a mystery.  Very experienced player from Nevada, but he faced lesser competition and played a lot of finesse, spread offenses.  Played well in the Senior Bowl, which was top competition in a conventional setting, so he might be ready to go from day one.  He’s still Plan C in my mind, but I do like him and think he can be a good starting MLB in the NFL.

* Those are the only 3 MLB prospects I’m really sold on.

Lavonte David – Played in the 220s this year.  Was 225 at the Senior Bowl.  Bulked up to 233 for the Combine.  The notion of putting him at SAM seemed crazy to me back in December.  David struggled at Nebraska with taking on blockers.  He needed 2-gap DL in front of him to keep him clean.  Then he went to Mobile and worked a lot with the coaches to learn to shed blocks.  Made significant progress.  Is that enough for me to trust him at SAM?  Maybe.

David has the coverage skills Juan Castillo would love.  David is a good tackler.  He wraps up his targets and puts them down.  He was extremely productive in his 2 years at Nebraska.  If you trusted him to shed blocks and hold up vs the run, David would suddenly be of real interest at SAM.

I know many of you are going “Barf. Don’t want another small LB.”  I get that.  And it would have been my take at one point.  I’m now intrigued by David at SAM.  I’d need to believe that he can play at 235.  I don’t question his toughness.  He’ll hit and tackle with anyone.  I just need to know that he can play in the Wide-9 with blockers coming at him.  What I saw in Mobile encouraged me.  Is that enough to make me spend a 2nd round pick on him?  Not sure, but maybe.  Would need to talk with him to really buy in.  Also would like to see him up at 235 at his Pro Day.  If he shrinks back down to 225…I might have to pass.

Nigel Bradham – The poor man’s Keenan Robinson.  Nigel has the frame to be a good SAM.  Solid athlete.  Game tape is pretty good.  Unfortunately, he’s got to be kept clean.  Bradham is bigger than Lavonte David, but plays smaller.  When Bradham is out in space, he can be impressive.  I don’t like him in traffic and don’t think he does well at all when taking on blockers.  Not my cup of tea.  Could be a real good WLB in some systems, but I don’t like him at SAM for us (or really anyone right now).

Keenan Robinson – At one point we wondered if he could be a 2nd round target.  I now think of him as a 4th rounder.  Only ran 4.79 at the Combine.  Lacks ideal instincts.  Does have a good frame and can be a strong, physical player.  If we miss on other SAM targets, K-Rob could still be of interest to me.  There is potential in him.

Bobby Wagner – He missed the Combine with the pneumonia.  That already tells me that he’s not tough enough for Philly.  SAM LB here better be able to run up a hill of burning tar with a broken leg  just to touch a mini-statue of Ron Jaworski.

Okay, if we cut Wagner a break for being sick, he is still a good SAM candidate.  Short at 6’0, but big enough at 240.  Looks athletic on tape.  Would be nice to know how he stacks up against the competition, numbers wise.  Can cover and play the run.  Has the kind of build and strength to be able to shed blockers.

If we address MLB in FA and want a SAM who can play the run, Wagner could well be a 2nd round target for us.  David has the better cover skills, but Wagner is thicker and should be a more physical player.  At that point you’re choosing which kind of LB you want.

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Audie Cole – Not a SAM candidate for me anymore.  MLB.  Would be a 2-down run stuffer type. Not sure he can start in the NFL.

Demario Davis – I’m listing him down here because I’m not sure what to do with him.  He’s 6’2, 235.  That build can play anywhere.  Had a terrific showing at the Combine.  Looked like an OLB with the way he moved.  Played MLB at the Senior Bowl and Mike Singletary liked him.  Put on his game tape and maybe his best asset is his ability to move laterally.  That’s ideal for MLB. Quality prospect, but doesn’t have a definitive skill set that puts him at OLB or MLB.

I think of him as a 4th round type player.  I’d love to add Davis and then find a spot for him.  Let him compete at all 3 spots.  Might just be good enough to start in the NFL.

Sean Spence –  I like Sean a lot, but he’s only a WLB here.  Just don’t see him as a likely target because of that.  If he falls far enough…maybe.

Dont’a Hightower – If you watched him in the positional drills at the Combine you could see he’s a downhill player and doesn’t move well laterally.  That makes him a bad fit for our system.

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Some RB talk over at ScoutsNotebook.

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Some local writers are calling for the Eagles to go after Peyton Manning.  Uh, no thanks.  If he was good to go, Indy would have kept him.  Peyton might be okay, but might not.  Big roll of the dice.  I think we’re better off sticking with Mike Vick and working on his game than hoping Peyton’s neck is okay and he’s able to play up to his previous level.

I understand the fascination with adding a Hall of Fame QB like him, but I can’t stress enough that there is no guarantee you’re getting the HOF version of Manning.  Neck injuries aren’t something you can overcome with hard work and grit.

Teams with no QBs are smart to roll the dice on Manning.  They could hit the lottery.  The risk/reward thing works for them.

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Quick note about Brian Rolle.  I’m not against upgrading him.  I do think he played well enough as a rookie for us to be comfortable with projecting him as a starter for 2012.  I think he’ll be a better player this year.  If the 2011 version of Rolle was his ceiling, then it would be imperative to upgrade.  I just don’t think that is the case at all.

80 Comments on “LB Update, Vol. 37”

  1. 1 nopain23 said at 6:07 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    hey t
    seattle let trufant go today..any chance we send AS22 there way for a 3rd?

  2. 2 TommyLawlor said at 6:16 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    They have Browner, Sherman. Big, physical CBs. No go.

  3. 3 nopain23 said at 6:35 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Well it looks like the Iggles are going to have to let ASS22 walk with no real compensation.he’s expensive and a very poor tackler.They really should have made that deal with Detroit last year.rumor had it they offered a 2nd and the FO wanted a 1st.

  4. 4 hallcr3 said at 6:40 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Dude, it’s only March 7. There’s still plenty of time to get some sort of deal done, either for 2012 picks or 2013 picks. Or we can keep him. Nothing to be worried about now.

  5. 5 Alex Karklins said at 7:13 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    If Peyton goes to Washington, I think you have to keep him. Nobody has the Mannings’ number like Asante.

  6. 6 rdw56 said at 8:55 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Dead on. Asante has real value. He’s still an excellent zone cover guy and playmaker with little wear and tear. Teams like Detroit and Carolina looking to take another step have a shot at a CB with all-pro potential with a solid 3 years in the tank will pay at least a 3rd. I’d offer Detroit a 4th and Asante for their 2nd. They’d get a potential star CB and a good depth pick.

  7. 7 A_T_G said at 7:13 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    The rumor was distorted. I believe it was later clarified that Detroit offered a second day pick.

  8. 8 Tyler Phillips said at 9:36 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    which is a 2nd or 3rd, shoulda taken it regardless.

  9. 9 iskar36 said at 10:01 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    While you’re right that now, a second day pick means 2nd or 3rd, I think the person who wrote the original article came out and actually said second day pick meaning 4th-7th round (traditionally the second day of the draft). I wish I could find the tweet, but he definitely clarified it as a later round pick.

  10. 10 Joe Malone said at 6:32 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I still remember when Trufant, Samuel, and nnamdi were the hot tickets in the 08 Free agency. Good times. Still glad with the decision we made.

  11. 11 Kirk Belmont said at 6:20 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Hey Tommy,
    What do you think about signing Erin Henderson as a SAM?
    I was reading a profootballfocus article about him. He is young and still seams to have a lot of upside. We could sign him and then draft Luke.

  12. 12 TommyLawlor said at 6:41 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Erin played WLB for the Vikings. They do some different things with their LBs. Henderson has a SAM body at 6’3, 244. He is young and has some upside. If the Eagles decide they want to sign a SAM target in FA, Erin could be it. I haven’t studied tape of him so I can’t offer great insight. I think he’s a better run defender than cover guy.

  13. 13 brza said at 6:05 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Maybe I’m swayed easily but after reading that PFF article I am sold that Erin Henderson should be our major LB target in free agency. He sounds like exactly what we’re looking for at SAM. He was a top run stopper, graded out well in coverage and played MLB in their Nickel packages.

    I’m on board for signing Henderson to play SAM and then doing whatever we can to get Kuechly. Kendricks would be our fallback option.

  14. 14 JRO91 said at 7:42 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    I kinda like this idea too, but I would change one thing (maybe)….sign henderson in FA, saving $$$, If Cox is there at 15 take him and draft Kendricks in the 2nd. DT are much more valuable then a MLB. If Cox is grabbed before our pick and Luke is there. Take Luke.

  15. 15 brza said at 8:21 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    I thought about that too but I think maybe the general perception that DT is more valuable than MLB may not be correct, at least not this year for this team. There seems to be a lot of good fits with huge potential at DT available in the draft this year. There is only one option (possibly 2) at MLB in the draft.

    Kendricks is more of a risk as THE answer for an instant starting role to me than Wolfe or Worthy as just a rotational player that may need to start in a year or two.

    Plus when looking at FAs, guys like Lofton, who may not be a good fit, and Tulloch, who isn’t elite, will be looking for $8M contracts. Even Hawthorne will probably garner something over $5M per season. Washburn turned Landri, a guy who was cut and available for weeks, into a stud in his rotation. We could also probably sign Jason Jones for less than $4M (cheaper than any MLB FA except maybe Connor or Fletcher but they aren’t really long-term answers) per season because he flopped as a DE and is too small for most systems at DT.

    I think in the Eagles’ situation they MUST disregard standard position values and go after Kuechly because he has just as much upside as Cox but he also fills an immediate need and the gap between Kuechly and other MLB options is much larger than that between Cox and other DT options (trades not included).

  16. 16 rdw56 said at 8:49 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Mayock said this well a few weeks ago suggesting he sees Cox as equal to Kuechly and all things equal you always draft the DT. But all things are not equal. We are deep at DT and desperate at MLB which is why he said Luke is our guy. You are dead on. Unless there is something with Patterson we don’t know or Reid just goes bananas over someone like Floyd or Poe he’ll take Luke.

  17. 17 Eric Weaver said at 8:54 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Deep at DT this year, sort of. After this year? Who knows.

  18. 18 rdw56 said at 11:03 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    The DL was terrific while absorbing injuries to Graham, Parker, Tapp and Cole. Babin and Jenkins are the old dogs but not beat up. They have two years left at the top of their game. Patterson was terrific. His role is not sacks. He played with an issue and the operation was to remove it Dixon was getting all-pro mentions. Landri was fantastic in his role. Laws has been disappointing as a 2nd rounder but when healthy adequate in the rotation. Thornton is a guy with potential they’ve invested time in. 1 to 6 they match anyone in the NFL. Patterson/Dixon have 3+ years left.. They could easily pass on DL this year entirely in the draft and FA (parker w/b cheap insurance) and give Graham, Dixon, Thorton and Hunt a chance to hit their potential. They have the 2013 AND 2014 drafts to replace Babin and Jenkins and I’d not write off a 3rd year from either. If Graham comes back, Parker is healthy and Hunt shows more of what he showed at the end then Babin and Cole are getting fewer snaps. This is rosy scenario for sure but hardly pie in the sky.

  19. 19 Mac said at 11:27 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Patterson’s health might be ok.

    Jenkins might have his second consecutive healthy season.

    Derick Landri might sign up again.

    Dixon might fully recover from his injury last year and adapt to the wide 9.

    Yep, we’re set at DT.

  20. 20 brza said at 11:47 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    And the world might end in 2012.

  21. 21 Mac said at 4:19 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    Just pointing out that not one of our current DT’s is a lock to play out the whole season. Therefore, spending a high value pick at DT makes some sense to me. And yes the world may well end in 2012, but since no one knows when it will end what’s the point in speculating?

  22. 22 brza said at 5:21 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    I’m just pointing out that not one of our current players is a lock to play out the whole season. I don’t think you can base the first round pick on whether we think our DTs will get injured or not. We know that our current LBs aren’t capable of getting the job done consistently whether healthy or not.

    I’m just saying there are a lot more options at DT than there are at MLB.

    Either way we’ll find out soon enough if Landri will be resigned and whatever players get added before the draft will impact who gets targeted in April.

  23. 23 rdw56 said at 10:38 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    mac, Pattersons surgery wasn’t to improve his health but preventive to correct some he’s played with his entire life. Jenkins has been reasonably healthy his career. Dixon had an arm injury that’s nit career threatening and Landri will be easily resigned or replaced. I’d worry more about Mathis getting together with Herremans in his van,getting a buzz on and making a wrong turn at a demolition derby.

  24. 24 Anders Jensen said at 4:39 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    After reading the PFF article, I think signing Hawthorne and E Henderson would be a very smart move. That way we can still take BPA at 15 without worrying about the newly signed FA.

  25. 25 the guy said at 6:27 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    The Eagles’ plans are obvious.

    Sign Peyton Manning as the new starting MLB.

  26. 26 TommyLawlor said at 6:43 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Yes!!! Smart as a whip. I can see him easily making the transition from QB to MLB and being a physical presence. Great idea.

  27. 27 D3FB said at 6:47 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Between him and Chaney you may be able to have 1 whole functioning neck!

  28. 28 TommyLawlor said at 6:53 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Someone get me a surgeon. Or a really good set of pliers and some duct tape.

  29. 29 brza said at 4:20 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Wait I thought the plan was to sign Manning, Moss, Plax and then draft Burfict in the 2nd?
    Manning’s brains, Moss’ speed, Plax’s height and RZ ability, and Burfict’s nastiness/finger-pointing ability makes the perfect MLB. He would be enshrined in Canton before he ever played a down.

  30. 30 sonofdman said at 11:02 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    He’ll work perfectly with Juan. They both spent years studying defenses to try to beat them, so now they know what gives offenses trouble. Not to mention the dinner conversations that must have gone on in the Manning household!

  31. 31 Mac said at 11:30 AM on March 8th, 2012:


  32. 32 Septhinox said at 6:45 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I know Vontaze Burfict has pretty much killed his stock, but at what round does he become a value?

  33. 33 D3FB said at 6:47 PM on March 7th, 2012:


  34. 34 TommyLawlor said at 6:54 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    For teams that use a downhill, attacking style…5th round. Could go as early as the 4th, but I don’t see that as likely. Easily could be UDFA.

    Not of interest for the Eagles.

  35. 35 iskar36 said at 8:56 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    This is more of a curiosity about the combine than it is about Vontaze Burfict because from everything I read, I was never particularly interested in him. That being said, as recent as maybe 2 or 3 months ago, Burfict was mentioned with Kuechly and Hightower as 1st round LBers. Hightower and Burfict’s stocks fell a bit prior to the combine, but going in, if I recall correctly, it sounded like they were both 2nd rounders. To me, I would have guessed that means that based on game tape, he was at least a solid prospect. When Burfict had a terrible combine, I expected his stock to fall, but you’re saying it not only fell but he may now not even get drafted. My question is, why does the combine have that strong of an effect? If his game tape looked solid (and I’m basing that not on anything but the fact that he was highly rated prior to the combine), shouldn’t that outweigh a combine performance at least enough to keep a guy in the first 3 or 4 rounds?

  36. 36 D3FB said at 9:13 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Burfict was okay but not great in the early part of the year. His game against USC in the middle of the year was probably the high point. His stock went into freefall when he was benched for parts of the last two regular season games, he then was barely used in the bowl game. Anybody who was saying in December or January that Vontaze was going to be a first round pick clearly had not watched him play this year at all.

  37. 37 TommyLawlor said at 9:28 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I was saying Burfict wasn’t going to be a 1st or 2nd Rder back in January.

    He had an okay 1st half of 2011, but became a major problem down the stretch. He then went to the Combine and put up numbers that were terrible. Not so-so…flat out terrible. That shows poor work ethic. Is this a guy you give $500K a year to? No way.

    His game tape was never as good as many made it out to be.

  38. 38 Eric Weaver said at 8:56 AM on March 8th, 2012:


    Obviously there are differences, but Brandon Spikes tested poorly at the Combine last year and that dropped him. Are there any similarities there? Of course, Spikes had good film while at Florida while Burfict was all over the place as far as good and bad.

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 7:17 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I see what you are saying about the QB situation. You don’t want to go into the season with a guy at the helm is an injury concern and has a real possibility of not making it through a season, so we should definitely feel more comfortable with Michael Vick than Peyton Manning.


  40. 40 TommyLawlor said at 7:25 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    How dare you question me!!! I wrote that post before sniffing any airplane glue so I know it can’t be wrong.

    Joking aside, as you know the difference is that Vick has durability issues while Manning might have significant performance issues. Are you getting the classic Peyton or will he be a lesser version? That’s what makes it a roll of the dice.

  41. 41 Thunder_lips said at 8:27 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    New Peyton sucks. Bring back Peyton Classic.

  42. 42 sonofdman said at 11:04 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Crystal Peyton?

  43. 43 the guy said at 7:31 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    This will be Vick’s year I tell you! He used the year off [due to the lockout] to do nothing but study game tape and work with trainers on passing the ball and sliding!

    Seriously though, I heard somewhere (forgot where) that Peyton Manning was fairly recently unable to throw a ball to his left. That’s a bit different from the inevitable mid-season Vick injury that everyone but him saw coming.

  44. 44 the guy said at 7:35 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I swear I didn’t see what Tommy wrote until after I posted that. That’s just great minds thinking alike.

    Well, it’s at least minds thinking alike.

  45. 45 BC1968 said at 7:54 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I’d like to believe you but what are you swearing on? That makes all the difference in the world.

  46. 46 Ben Hert said at 11:21 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Hope he doesn’t have to do a walkoff with Hansel…

  47. 47 Liam Garrett said at 1:06 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    Hansel’s so hot right now.

  48. 48 sonofdman said at 9:00 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    Peyton already has perfected blue steel:

  49. 49 iceberg584 said at 12:21 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    Brian kind of pokes fun of it on his site, but the Didinger article calling for Lurie to pursue Peyton reads as a transparent attack on Vick to me. He hasn’t liked Vick since he came here, and the outlandish idea of trying to outbid half the league for Manning feels like another salvo against Vick.

  50. 50 rdw56 said at 10:42 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    I agree. Love Ray but he has his biases. He’s a huge dog lover and he’s not getting over that. peyton is far too much money

  51. 51 austinfan said at 8:10 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    From 2008 to 2010, Eagles scored more points and gained more yards than the Colts.
    And that was with McNabb, Kolb and Vick.
    And it’s not like Peyton didn’t have talent, Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Collie, Gonzalez, Tamme
    And he had a decent OL coach, what was his name?
    Maybe Peyton is a tad bit overrated these days?

    David is a possibililty, but not sure I’d go that high for him.
    McClellin is a guy I’d defintely use one of the 2nd rd picks to snag if he’s still there.
    Irvin is a guy I’d think about, he’d have to be a pass rusher for a year or two while he learned, but he tested at the combine like an elite LB, 4.03 SS, 6.70 cone, this is no stiff.
    Travis Lewis came in at 6- 246, perfect for SLB, but ran 4.88, at his pro day, I’m expecting 6-2 236 and a 4.70, might be worth a 3rd round pick?
    Davis seems to excite people who watch him, a nice trait in a LB, think you might have to use a 3rd rd pick, though he could fall to the early 4th rd pick

    I’m not sold on Robinson, he was soft in college, now he’s slow? 4-5th round, he’s not as good as Wright last year.
    Audie Cole actually ran pretty well almost as fast as Robinson, he’s bigger, tougher and might just be a better bet at SLB
    Tank Carder tested very well, has been a solid player at TCU, certainly a better prospect than Matthews last year.
    I like Acho, he’s not that big, not that fast, but put the fastest 10 yard split for the LBs, is an intelligent, instincual player with intangibles that go through the roof, as a Texas fan, I’d take him over Robinson. At worst he’s an upgrade over Gaither.

  52. 52 Thunder_lips said at 8:31 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    This column is absolutely your “Rush in Rio”.

  53. 53 TommyLawlor said at 8:47 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Damn. Was hoping for Exit Stage Left.

  54. 54 GeorgeFleep said at 9:39 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Very fascinated about SAM. The eagles changed the way they used the position in the middle of the year. Originally wasnt as down hill with chaney. Then came in Fokou and jordan. Obviously Chaney wasnt jar dropping awesome but that position is every bit as critical as MLB. The SAM has to be able to tackle and cover a tight end. Is speed needed more than strength? Obviously he needs to be tall enough. I see the depth at SAM as 1-Chaney 2-Clayton. I would rather eagles address MLB in FA than SAM. I like Keenan Robinson and Tank Carder in the draft simply because their bodies seems to be the only true SAM player out there. Man i love me some southern LBs.

  55. 55 Liman nje said at 9:47 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    i seriously hope the eagles find a way to land Demario Davis. i agree with you Tommy, draft and bring him in to compete across all LBs spot. there is some special about him. he could turn out to be “Trent Cole” of the linebackers. mid round draft steal!

  56. 56 jayanglada said at 10:51 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    Tommy —
    Thanks for your fast turnaround on the many LB issues. As usual, a very complete review of the critical points. A more narrow question: If Wagner at 6’0″ is marginally tall enough to play SAM in the NFL why not Kendricks at only an inch shorter and speedier? Both have solid experience at OLB and MLB.

  57. 57 TommyLawlor said at 11:34 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    6’0 is the cutoff for SAM. Teams prefer 6’2 or above. Same thing as QB. Drew Brees is 6’0. Other guys are 5’11. That’s only an inch, but the point is that Brees is considered very short. People below him better be special to be seriously considered.

  58. 58 ian_no_2 said at 10:27 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    imho popgun arm trumps short, if you have a popgun arm you have that arm on every play, while a short QB gets sight lines and throwing arc blocked on some plays. Therefore it may be that Russell Wilson is better than Mike Kafka, because Wilson has a great arm.

  59. 59 Anders Jensen said at 3:39 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    Is height really that big of a deal for a LB? I would think arm length would matter more because of jamming the TE.

  60. 60 rdw56 said at 10:49 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    gotta disagree here. Kendricks had a stellar 39.5″ vertical. That makes him the equivalent of the average 6-2 SAM, With 4.47 speed his physical talents qualify as elite. If he’s shown he can drop back in coverage with intelligence being 5-11 is not a show stopper.

  61. 61 ian_no_2 said at 11:50 PM on March 7th, 2012:

    I might prefer Lavonte David to Bobby Wagner now. I didn’t really look at David as a SAM I guess because of his size, but he seems to have a very high ceiling even against the run. Good that there are those two options for possibly the 2nd round.

  62. 62 rdw56 said at 10:59 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    The consensus is he’s a plus dropping back into coverage. He’s a smart football guy who w/b an excellent compliment to kuechly. Fast, excellent leaper and very productive. A guy weighing 230 running that fast will hit with power. I would not put rolle at MLB but I think we saw he can hit hard enough to play ir. Weight isn’t the only factor. David is my hope for 51 but I’d take Kendricks or Wagner as well.

  63. 63 brza said at 4:26 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Zach Brown seems to be conspicuously left out of your write-up Tommy. No interest in him anymore or did you just leave him out since you’ve covered Brown enough already?

  64. 64 Ben Hert said at 11:30 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    I think Brown is more of a WLB prospect, but I might be wrong on that.

  65. 65 Jeppe Elmelund van Ee said at 6:59 AM on March 8th, 2012:


    Do you think the team wants Chaney to be the ‘veteran’ player at SAM? I can’t help but think, they want him on the field because of his athletic ability, and I still think Castillo likes him there.

    Then we could draft a SAM prospect in the 4th (K-Rob), who Castillo talked to during the Senior Bowl.

    I don’t think we’ll get a SAM in FA, because there doesn’t seem to be anyone out there, who we know for sure will be better than what we have.

    My personal preference of our two first picks in April would be one of these following combinations:
    1st: Kuechly
    2nd: Curry

    1st: Cox
    2nd: Kendricks

    Would a LB corps like this be sufficient enough? Maybe, maybe not…

    Rolle – Clayton
    Kendricks – Matthews
    Chaney – Robinson

  66. 66 JRO91 said at 7:47 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Thats a very athletic LB corp, but very young….could be a huge upgrade over last year, or another dissapointing year. I would feel way more comfortable with another Vet there….instead of Robinson sign Henderson from the Vikes for SAM. Chaney could be his B/U and/or MLB backup….

  67. 67 nopain23 said at 8:18 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    I think we iggles fans have to honest and realize that Chaney is nothing more than a really good back up.LK40 in the first is all the FO has to get right.That to me is a successful draft right there regardless of what they do in the later rounds.You pretty much get Luke and give Mudd and Washburn a few projects to coach up and Bobby April a new toy for KR/PR

  68. 68 TommyLawlor said at 8:18 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    If Chaney was healthy, maybe. Neck injury could be serious issue. I hope the surgery goes well and he’s 100 percent, but neck injuries for a LB aren’t something to be taken lightly.

  69. 69 jayanglada said at 7:50 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Today (3/8) is Nebraska’s Pro Day, but is that too close to the Combine date to tell you much about Lavonte David’s ability to hold at a functional 235?

  70. 70 TommyLawlor said at 8:16 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    The Combine was a couple weeks back. That’s good enough for me. There is risk involved, but Lavonte is the kind of kid I think I’d have faith in if the numbers are good.

  71. 71 Matt Grisez said at 8:52 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    What if the Eagles signed David Hawthorne? He has the ability to play all 3 LB positions and would open up what the Eagles could do in the draft. They would be able to take the BPA and be able to target a SAM or MIKE in the draft.

  72. 72 mark_in_jax said at 9:23 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    1st things 1st, I doubt I would take Burfict in any round. 2nd, remember in 2002 when we took Sheppard, Lewis and Brown at 1/2/2? Maybe 2012 will be the year we take Kuechly, Kendricks and Spence at 1/2/3? Talk about saturation drafting! Could keep Chaney, Rolle, Matthews and Clayton who are all signed through at least 2013. We carry at least 6 LBS every year and sometimes 7. LB and ST roster upgrade and stability for the forseeable future. Kuechly can play MLB or SAM in our system based on Tommy’s explanation of last year’s intent.

  73. 73 nopain23 said at 9:31 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Agreed.Luke at SAM..Kendricks at Will…sorry not sold on Rolle and ..Hawthorne at SAM…..thats a gr8 group of talent..right there….tackling no longer becomes a problem.let’s face it if we fix the LBs this defense is a top 5 unit and we won’t have to break the bank for Hawthorne.

  74. 74 D3FB said at 12:37 PM on March 8th, 2012:


  75. 75 nopain23 said at 2:27 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    oops ment luke MLB…my bad

  76. 76 Mac said at 4:21 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    No worries, nopain is scheduled to have lunch with Casey Matthews tomorrow.

  77. 77 NoDecaf said at 10:57 AM on March 8th, 2012:

    Tommy – Off Topic

    Do you know where I could read about the details of NFL contract negotiations? I’m focused more on finding the entertaining stories rather than the, watching-the-paint-dry, day-to-day stuff. There has to be some, “I’m going to kill you cork sucker,” (know that reference?) ash tray hitting the wall shit that has gone down throughout history. Got any leads?

  78. 78 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:19 PM on March 8th, 2012:

    reminds me of the ‘cork soaker’ skit from SNL. ahh…those were the days of quality saturday night entertainment….

  79. 79 dislikedisqus said at 1:04 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    what about Bruce Irvin, the guy is 6-3, 245 with a 4.43 40 at the combine. Or do you think he is a DE or a 3-4 guy?

  80. 80 rdw56 said at 11:01 PM on March 9th, 2012:

    He’s a rush guy and won’t fit the Eagles scheme.