Quick Jets Review & Roster Talk

Posted: August 31st, 2012 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 28 Comments »

No time for a lengthy DGR right now.  I will post some quick thoughts on what I saw:

* Demetress Bell played a bad game … BUT… he was not as bad on the re-watch as I expected. I do think he’ll make the team.  There is something to work with.  His head is a mess right now, but he does have talent.  There were some good moments in the game.  All depends on what Mudd thinks of Bell’s ability to get going.

* Trent Edwards played well … BUT … his TD to Mardy Gilyard was a major mistake.  Trent floated that ball into the endzone.  Should have been broken up or picked off.  3rd string DBs didn’t come close to it.  Trent was under pressure on the throw and that’s why the ball floated, but the point is that a veteran QB has to know not to take that chance.  If he does that in a real game, the ball is picked and headed the other way, with a convoy of blockers.

Some people see me as anti-Trent.  That’s not the case.  I have followed him since Stanford.  I watched a bunch of his BUF starts.  I am thrilled that Edwards has been able to pull himself off the scrap heap and have a good preseason showing.

Preseason football is tricky.  I’ve gotten burned over the years by over-valuing veteran players who got the best of 3rd and 4th string competition.  You can’t focus on just results.  You must project what you see to what it would look like vs real competition.  I think Trent has been good enough to warrant serious discussion for a roster spot.  I do not think he’s been so special that he’s a lock.

I won’t be the least bit upset if the Eagles keep him over Kafka.  I like both guys and don’t have a preference in terms of who I like more.  I’m keeping Kafka based on the fact that he had a better mini-camp and Training Camp.  I only got to see him for a handful of plays in the PS opener.  He was okay, but unimpressive.  He was also facing the Steelers #2 defense, a good unit.  Somehow fans have decided that if Kafka played more in the PS he would have sucked.  I’m not sure I get this.  Kafka might have struggled, might have been solid, or he might have lit it up.  We don’t know.

I’m not going to be upset with either guy getting cut.  Both have done things this summer to show they deserve the job.

* Dallas Reynolds outplayed Steve Vallos.  Dallas started at C and then played RG.  Good showing.  I think he’ll be the top interior backup OL.

* Dennis Kelly is talented, but a rookie.  You saw both elements.  I think he’ll be the 6th OL this year.  He’ll play at G or T if someone gets hurt.

* TE Chase Ford had a good game.  Real good.  Made a diving catch on the first drive.  That was impressive.  Had some really good blocks.  He had the key block on Brown’s TD run.  Also did well in pass pro.  Locked up a LB/DE for several seconds by himself on a pass play.  Might have played his way into the mix for a practice squad spot.

* Emil Igwenagu has gotten better and better.  He had a couple of catches.  One was impressive, even though it was a short throw.  He blocked well on several plays.  I think he could develop into a good FB over time.  Needs reps.  Might be a practice squad guy, here or elsewhere.

* Bryce Brown’s numbers weren’t great (9-20), but he had a good game.  Ran well, but that’s not news.  He’s done that all summer.  Was 3-30 as a receiver.  One was a screen that he took 19 yards.  Showed good burst on that.  Also finishes plays well.  Will lower his shoulder and take on defenders.  The other catches were short throws, but nice grabs.  One was a little swing pass that he struggled with at Lehigh.  Caught it smoothly and looked natural.  Didn’t get a lot of work as a pass blocker.  Had one good cut block on a DE.  Fired into his legs with no hesitation.  Got the guy down.

* Not much new to add to Chris Polk talk.  Terrific game.  He’s gotten better each week, which I love in a prospect.  Looked faster than any other week.  Still a tough, physical runner.  I’m starting to see the guy I loved so much at Washington.

* Damaris Johnson had no highlight plays, but was solid.  I do think he needs work on catching punts.  Looks like he lets the ball get into his body, which is dangerous as it will bounce off the pads.  Not a hands issue.  Simply needs technique work.

* DT Ced Thornton was terrific again.  Love watching him this year.

* DE Monty Taylor had a very good game.  He was a force off the edge, both left and right side.  He wasn’t just getting the best of one bad player.  Taylor was disruptive all game long.  I really wonder if the Eagles will think long and hard about keeping him on the final roster.  He would be a 6th DE, but wouldn’t play.  Really impressive potential due to his size and natural athleticism.

* I’m happy to say that Jaiquawn Jarrett was even better on tape than live.  Very active game.  Only had 2 tackles, but he was right there to make stops on another 5 or 6 plays.  That may sound like I’m trying to come up with a positive angle, but this is legit.  Jai-Jar was aggressive.  He came up quickly vs the run.  He was good in the box.  He showed some range in coverage.  Problem he had was that the Jets offense stunk so much that by the time he got to the ball, the play had been made by a teammate.

* Phillip Thomas had some good moments.  I just don’t think he showed enough to make the final roster.  I think he definitely played his way onto the practice squad.  I won’t be shocked if he makes the final 53, I’m just thinking it isn’t likely.  Has good long term potential.

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I haven’t had time to type out a full roster post.  I’ll do that later.  For now, there are podcasts.



Jimmy Bama and I break down the roster in detail.  Each show is about 45 mins.


28 Comments on “Quick Jets Review & Roster Talk”

  1. 1 ACViking said at 12:04 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Re: T-Law’s take on S Phillip Thomas

    To paraphrase the very colorful former AFL coaching legend Lou Saban, caught by NFL films, as he watched the refs blow a call against his Buffalo Bills:

    “You’re killing me, Tommy. You’re killing me.”

    (Here’s the link to Saban at 6:04-6:06 — all passion all the time. The piece is a really entertaining collection of coaches in action — including former Eagles HC Joe Kuharich, the dark-haired guy in a suit with sunglasses.

    GREAT STUFF, T-Law . . . Actually, I’d be trilled to see J-Jarr pull it together and eventually replace Coleman. That would mean he’s mastered the defense and is playing fast, fast, fast.

  2. 2 TommyLawlor said at 12:17 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    I know that Saban quote. All time classic.

  3. 3 JRO91 said at 12:16 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Jose Hanson is going to be cut per Adam Caplan…..I guess Boykin/Hughes will be the guys. This probably helps Lindley out too….

  4. 4 TommyLawlor said at 12:18 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Predicted the Hanson cut in the podcast. Doesn’t make sense to keep him.

  5. 5 JRO91 said at 12:21 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    It does seem like a lot thougth to ask Boykin to return kicks, play slot corner and possibly be a gunner on punts…I know he was the jack of all trades @ Georgia, but this isn’t the SEC anymore.

  6. 6 TommyLawlor said at 12:31 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    For now, slot guy and KOR. Marsh, Hughes can be the gunners.

  7. 7 Anders said at 12:31 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Just listing to the podcast where you argue against him and I read on twitter he is cut 🙂

  8. 8 ICDogg said at 1:01 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    was doing the same at the same time

  9. 9 Mac said at 12:45 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Maybe we can trade Dixon to Atlanta and bring AS22 back.

    (hint for other readers this is sarcasm)

  10. 10 Mac said at 12:42 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    I think Lindley has a legit shot to make the team if he’s 100% healthy. We’ll find out soon!

  11. 11 T_S_O_P said at 12:54 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    I’d like both our 4th rounders from that draft to survive the cut.

  12. 12 JRO91 said at 12:18 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Mardy Gilyard gone too……

  13. 13 JRO91 said at 12:42 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Chad Hall is getting waived?!? say it aint so…….

  14. 14 TommyLawlor said at 12:47 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Prime PS material.

  15. 15 Anders said at 1:00 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Would a WR needy team like the Rams pick him up?

  16. 16 E_P said at 1:01 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    The Rams? They already have 7 marginal receivers as it is.

  17. 17 Anders said at 1:03 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Yea but Hall can something they cant, catch the ball instead of dropping it.

  18. 18 E_P said at 1:05 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Danny Amendola is the same player, but better.

  19. 19 Scott Buchanan said at 12:43 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Grimm and Asante cut in TB..could be an upgrade at S for us Tommy?

  20. 20 Mac said at 12:48 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Does being this close to the deadline mean we aren’t going to see trades, or would we keep a player (say Polk for example) on the 53 and then trade him.

  21. 21 ian_no_2 said at 1:02 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    It’ s interesting to hear that you’re not anti-Trent: surely the decrees of the Council of Trent should be viewed in their 16th Century context first of all before we start taking sides. It’s probably better we don’t talk about religion at all on a football board.

  22. 22 ian_no_2 said at 1:12 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Even though Adam Caplan hasn’t said as much, I get the feeling that he’s following FB trades and cuts because the Eagles are calling around about FBs.

  23. 23 ian_no_2 said at 1:31 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Just over at Eagescap.com which says before the roster pruning the team has no cap room, tho rookie/ journeyman cuts open up a little. Cutting Hanson frees up $950K, one of the top potential cap savings. Cutting Demetress Bell would be a big bad cap hit, freeing up only $100K. Another way to free up space would be Atogwe (whom I like) who would free up $1.05M.

  24. 24 dislikedisqus said at 1:53 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Lindley survived per Caplan. 6 cbs.

  25. 25 ChaosOnion said at 1:58 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Is there a good reason for the Eagles to keep a true FB? Any passing plays to the FB can be replaced with two back sets. In the very rare situations the Eagles use a lead blocker, Clay Harbor (or one of the plethora of DE/DTs they will keep, throw Phillip Hunt in there!) can do it.

    Why would the Eagles keep a FB and lose either Brown or Polk? Brown has great upside and Polk is a complete back. Why keep a FB?

  26. 26 Kevin_aka_RC said at 2:05 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    11 DL, Polk vs. Brown, McBrier vs. Henry, Kafka vs. Edwards. 3 guys gotta go. MAKE SOME MOVES HOWIE!

  27. 27 iskar36 said at 2:10 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    So far, Dixon hasn’t been cut. I don’t see how he makes the team, so hopefully the eagles are working out a trade.

  28. 28 T_S_O_P said at 2:13 PM on August 31st, 2012:

    Otogwe and Phillips gone, we are either activating Colt or looking at the waiver wire.