BAL-PHI 2nd Half Thread
Posted: September 16th, 2012 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 213 Comments »In a word: ugh. The Eagles have the talent to play with anyone in the league, but once again mistakes are the theme of the day. The good news is that Michael Vick isn’t the problem. He did throw a terrible pick, but the D bailed him out and got the ball right back. The RBs have been the bigger issue. Shady McCoy dropped an easy pass on 3rd/1. Shady got hit and fumbled on 3rd/2, when we were in the Red Zone. Bryce Brown didn’t get the hand-off cleanly and fumbled on 3rd/1 when we were once again in the Red Zone. Barf. We should have a minimum of 13 points. Instead, we trail 17-7.
The defense has been inconsistent. Biggest problem is Ray Rice running vs our Nickel. Not sure who’s to blame for this.
We’ve outgained BAL, 222 to 179.
We’re running a balanced offense. Shady has 14 carries. Vick has thrown 13 passes.
We must play the run better.
We must quit turning the ball over.
We can still win, but confidence is not high.
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i actually didnt believe you that shady had 14 carries. had to look it up. wow. when did that happen? lol
Ravens making the plays the Browns didn’t make.
Interesting, Cox is out there to start the 2nd half with the first team dline.
DEMECO!
demeco ryans with the INT! wow!
i’m not sure he was ever touched down on the return
With our luck, this will negate the INT.
Re: Ryans’ INT
Ravens’ RT throws Babin to the ground.
No penalty.
Any wonder why the game is chippy
was that babin? i thought the # was in the 70s
It was Hunt getting bodyslammed. Point is still valid…
Thanks for the correction!!!
Is it okay to hope they just score before reaching the RZ so as not to tempt fate running plays from inside there?
i’m ok with them scoring in any way possible.
My fault guys. Apparently all I had to do was ask.
Ha, yes.
there you go. 23 yard pass to mac.
Good God refs, just make the call!
what in gods name is going on right now?
…oh no…
Oh jesus, anyone but Kelce!
Crap. No back up center, really, either. Looks initially like Kelce hurt his knee.
yea, that does not look good at all.
Re: Kelce
In Mudd’s system, I can’t imagine a more critical player than the center.
Jeff Saturday never missed a start in Indy. He was so key.
Losing Kelce . . . ugh . . . is it worse than losing Vick?
That depends on your view of Vick vs Foles
What a beautiful job of getting down by Maclin.
Wow, that did not look good for Kelce.
Okay . . . losing Vick would be worse than losing Kelce!!!
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T-Law:
Is Bryce Brown headed toward the “Ronnie Brown treatment” by MM/AR?
Brown caught a pass in this drive
We’ll have to watch that. They love Bryce so might be more patient with him.
Huge sequence. D came up with ball, O scored. Clutch.
we scored a TD because we didnt make it into the RZ. had we gone another 3 yards, we would have turned it over. lol
T-Law:
Has Hunt lost his place to BGraham?
Graham has been making himself get noticed, that’s for sure.
Great job by the D to get the 3 & out. DRC might have held a little, but he’s not the only guy in this game to get away with something.
If nothing else, we’ve shown improvement from last week. Even if we lose, the team should have some confidence going forward.
the Eagles have NO backup linemen now
Did they dress only 7?
yeppers sports fan
the only inactive OL is Menkin. dennis kelly should be there. i think he is the only backup left
I think Brent Celek is my favorite Eagle.
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good grief can we stop with the injuries?
We’re paying for every yard in guts and blood. And injuries.
Hey dumble dumble
McCoy didn’t fumble
Celek jumped over Ed Reed
Who is backing up at c right now?
dallas reynolds. bell is in for king at LT
wow, the refs are trying to get someone killed! you can see the one ref signaling for a deflected pass, but no one blew a whistle…
yeah, apparently he can’t whistle and signal a deflected pass at the same time.
Re: more on Bryce Brown
He’s had — by my count — two snaps since his fumble. Both were play action passes.
I’d like to see Brown just run over DBs rather than trying to juke them. McCoy can get a way with that. Brown needs to use his size to get over them.
Re: Bryce Brown . . . questions answered.
Pound the rock
that was a terrible idea to throw that one… phew.
Missed INT in RZ . . . Eagles will now score.
Never fails
good call!!
Terrible challenge.
I think it was the right move. Very much looked like a first down to me.
Edit: Kudos phillychuck. I am a dummy.
I don’t know the actual rule–the refs missed the spot by about a foot, but it’s not worth rsiking a time-out to challenge that.
Surely that depends on whether they would’ve gone for it on 4th and a foot like it should’ve been. I think it would’ve been dumb and you just take the points, but wouldn’t put it past Andy to make that call.
after the replay, i think vick has it… he looks to get inside the 5, but i can’t see if his elbow goes down.
ah. didnt see where the first down marker was. probably still short.
Looks like the 4.5 yard line…
Spot is about a foot short–does that qualify for a successful challenge?
Do you go for this first down? Or kick?
Behind by 3 I think you kick it
Yep.
i’m thinking the O is playing pretty well and the D did great last series. get the points to tie it up.
They made the right decision. Needed to tie it up.
T-Law:
Really looking forward to your opinion on Reid using a challenge and TO on Vick . . . .
That’s the kind of play rarely reversed.
Smart decision to kick. Backup C is in the game. Backup LT too. Ravens would have taken crazy chances. Not worth the risk.
yeah take the tie score
17-17.
The Ravens have either chosen to stop running between the guards.
Or the Eagles have made some dramatic adjustment that’s caused the Ravens to go elsewhere.
I’d expect the Ravens to start matriculating on the ground again.
Who is the emergency O-Lineman?
Andy
what happened to dennis kelly? is he active?
Inactive
am i looking in the wrong place for the inactives?
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Maclin-Jackson-Active-For-Eagles/d2aecc14-10e5-4456-bc76-bd107f68fbd0
it doesnt list dennis kelly as inactive. maybe they goofed.
This game is going to end around 6PM with all the stoppages and the refs being slow.
Love Landri’s technique. Introduce LG to QB.
He’s coming up big with pushing the pocket. Love me sum Landri!!!
Funny, I don’t recall you ever mentioning the guy before.
Re: Nate Allen
Wow . . . he looks like a completely different player this year.
Really does.
I be Landri would be a pretty good O-guard.
D-Bell.
So far, so good at LT.
How many sacks have we had so far this year? Not a lot right? Though we do get some pressure o
What’s with the short, low punts from Henery?
Henry’s punts very disappointing today.
i thought one or two early in the game were pretty good, but lately not so good….
3 & out 3 in a row for the D
Nnamdi burned early.
But whatever’s going on out there, the Ravens’ WRs are NOT open
Wow I like this new Desean!
desean jackson. my god.
another INT?! jesus.
Hey dumble dumble
Celek didn’t fumble
Deflected it to Ed Reed
Well, I guess that was ballgame. I think we’ve all seen this movie before.
One step forward, two steps back.
Way to keep momentum.
DRC & corner routes.
Like corn beef & catsup.
How lucky can Ed reed be
Didn’t that ball hit the ground?
Reid clearly thought about challenging…
Re: Vick’s 2nd INT to Ed Reed
T-Law:
I know the ball was tipped. But Vick has to have better vision out there.
In the 5-10 yard area, Vick seems to be struggling seeing defenders close to Eagle receivers.
Granted, Vick could have made a better pass. And maybe Celek should have caught that ball.
But Vick’s close-field vision seems to be sub-optimal.
IS IT A HEIGHT PROBLEM?
Agree with your point in the main, but I’m not sure you can put any of that INT on Vick – He hit Celek in the hands in a catchable position; all on Brent in my opinion.
I thought the 2nd int was a great throw, cant blame Vick for ball bouncing of the shoulder pads right to Reed
Why don’t you decline that penalty. I hope this doesn’t backfire.
Fletcher Cox . . . really stepping up.
May be solidifying a death-grip on a starting job.
Why is Andy Reid so stupid? Take the field goal idiot.
wait. did i miss something? what happened?
That decision is indefensible. You HAVE to decline the holding call.
Why the fuck did Reid accept the holding penalty?
T-Law:
Also looking forward to your Nnamdi analysis.
Terrible job on 3rd/long. Weird.
Why did Reid take the holding penalty on 4th and 6?
Did anyone see what constituted roughing? Being as non-partisan as I could possibly be, and I had trouble coming up with anything.
Babin lightly touched Flaco on the legs.
i want to say it was because he hit him in the legs, but vick took a shot to the legs earlier in the game (on a running play) where he got hit in the legs with no call. fuck if i know…
Thanks Houston.
So that DeMeco guy…think we should keep him?
Leaning toward yes.
Demeco Ryans is as good as advertised. Holy crap it’s great to have good linebackers.
I love our Defense.
Gotta give the D tons of credit today. Playing about as well as a D can play given we’ve turned it over 4 times and we can’t punt worth crap.
This defense is HUGE. I hope Castillo will finally receive some credit.
Good game.
Also Jimmy noted on twitter that Browns are doing fairly well today, Richardson have more than 100 rushing yards. So the D and Castillo should get some credit for the performance last week
Would be huge if we could keep this drive going.
3rd/17 too much to ask vs BAL.
How about a decent punt?
ugh. awful punt by henry. what the hell is going on with him?
Good question. Doesn’t like The Linc?
This has the making of a heart breaker. Watch us get ahead only to be beating inside the last 2 minutes
can someone explain the ravens RG doing a little shake before most plays? shouldnt that be a false start? ive seen it a half dozen times so far.
there it is again on 3rd & 22. weird.
It should be
Exactly!?
How can you lost track of ray rice?!
Someone asked about a read-blitz last week.
Well, Coleman just did that, let Rice go, and big play for Rice
These refs blow.
these refs are making a complete mess of this game. jesus. just spot the ball! lol
Time for Vick and the offense to save the day. They can do it. Will they?
How long until the Alex Henery apologia ends and we can recognize that it was a mistake and we should get a real K? Week 5? Week 12?
No negative plays, please.
On other fiekds, Saints are 0-2, and Eli is clutch again…
just outside the RZ. get the TD now. lol
Looking for the Ravens to go back-side blitz on Vick before 2 minute warning
Please don’t fumble, please don’t fumble, please don’t fumble.
Even up call on the roughing, except it only nets us 3 yards.
The scab officials can’t even do make up calls right.
i’ll take that offensive pass interference to even it up, though.
Mike Quick thought that was a penalty before the “flag” was thrown. Of course, Mike Quick is a massive homer.
and now we get this “fumble”… ugh.
Anyone else super nervous right now?
My heart’s gonna break before the end…
yessir. even if we do pull ahead here, their kicker has been nailing them all day.
I feel like I’m about to spontaneously combust.
Nope. We got this.
Sorry, I assumed this was being contested under the rules of the NFL. I take back the “we got this” thing.
I’m dyin’ here!!!
Even if we score, the’ll have time to come back with 2 timeouts…
Of Course, but we’ve been heartbroken so many times over the last few years that I pretty much expect a turnover.
Ok, refs want to hear you even if it’s not…
cut away to the steelers game.,…..wtf I hate living in PGH!!!
Refs just called a pass a fumble. Should be overturned. Terrible call. Terrible play as well.
This is the worst officiating I have ever seen.
Awful.
If they rule it a fumble, it will cause a lot of noise…
I agree… BUT… Eagles may have gotten away with quite a lot of pass interference this game (and that offensive pass interference to negate a TD…thank god!)
i dont understand that play call. i didnt see any receivers even on that side of the field.
Ok defense. Times Yours!
YES! TD!
TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
almost two whole minutes to go… two timeouts. come on defense. you gotta hold up here!
I have to stop watching football games. it can’t be good for my heart.
Super-kicker and the Raven’s O. Gotta kick it out of the end zone.
Really need a turnover. Their Kicker apparently can’t miss. Ever.
Gotta watch the QB hits there. Could have easily called roughing
Someone talk to me … bandwidth just died so Game Pass is a goner.
Tommy, isn’t it about time you ask Coleman for an INT? This is too much.
or landri for a strip sack.
Wow, can’t believe we pulled this off.
We win. Unbelieveable. 9 tuns in 2 games, and we win.
Wow. This is a team. And what a defense…
I knew we had this. This ain’t 2011 people.
Don’t know about you, but I’m literally shaking right now. Fucking hell.
my heart was pounding since we got in the redzone on that last drive
We fucking won?!?!?!?!
Ravens should have tried to kick the 75-yarder on 4th down. Given what happens against us, it would have bounced over the crossbar.
i would like to let you all know that we held ray rice to under 100 yards rushing.
(99 < 100!!! lol)
We are 2-0 for the first time since 2004.
Mychal Kendricks and Fletcher Cox . . . absolutely great picks.
QUESTION . . .
T-Law — where’s the pass rush? Is the pressure there, just not the sacks?
Boykin is doing more on D than on ST and doing great
Party time on igglesblitz. Bring on the PBR.
And the bookies lose their shirts–94% of the Vegas money was on the Ravens +2.5.
i would love to see the breakdown of yards given up by the defense by quarter. it felt like they absolutely dominated the entire second half.
Vick is 2 for 2 winning w/ the Eagles last possession (excluding kneel downs) the last two weeks.
Very exciting. Won’t happen every week. (Green Bay playoff game.)
But . . . REMEMBER HOPE
I’m just glad Vick is 2 for 2 on having kneel downs on his last possession
And just imagine if the Eagles protected the football . . . BLOWOUTS!!!
Can’t wait to hear the last time the Eagles won back-to-back 1 point games scoring the winning points on their last drive.
oh god. i can’t imagine the last time that might have happened. it sounds almost impossible for it to happen once, but twice??
Kelce with a knee sprain and Reid says “I can’t tell you this one looks good.”
Didn’t we just release the C from the practice squad?
Re: Ray Rice
Juan deserves cudos . . . Rice had 4 yards on his last 6 carries, after going 10 for 95.
Exactly. Good adjustment by him. Good execution by players.
Tolja!
In 2011, the turnovers eventually stopped — when the Eagles were 1-4.
This year, the team is 2-0 . . . and giving the ball away like their Santa Claus.
This offense is very good. (loss of Kelce has to hurt, though)
But what’s really exciting is this defense is PHYSICAL. Not a finesse group at all.
Our starting CBs are great. I cant get to fired up by a single long pass in a whole game
“Who was your next replacement at offensive line?”
Andy: “I talked to the DL. I would have started with the oldest and heaviest.”
I guess that means Cullen Jenkins would have come in at OL. They may think twice about only activating seven linemen again.
If Kelce and Dunlap aren’t ready to go next week, they might only have 7 left…
So honestly, how much confidence did you have in Reynolds?
He surprised me, seemed to hold his own.
having two substitutions in the OL and seing it playing well during the end of the game was quite impressive. I’ll watch the game again and focus on the new OL, but it seemed good in pass pro at least.
Re: Juan’s defense
One other item . . . Eagles’ 2nd half defense: 6 points allowed. WOW.
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I’ll say it again . . . I really like what M-Kendricks and Fletcher C have shown.
And — as T-Law has said over and over — Nate Allen was great coming out of college. And, right now, we’re seeing a young guy playing like Eagles All Pro S Bill Bradley from the early ’70s.
don’t forget brandon boykin. he went up against boldin and played really well
Graham had a good game as well, getting lots of pressure
100% agree. I questioned Allen all offseason. I wanted us to bring someone to push him (and more so Coleman), but Allen has been playing great football. I’ll also add that Boykin has been playing great as well. Great to see some draft picks producing big.
Will Vandevelde be an Eagles on Monday afternoon?
The offensive numbers from the Ravens in the second half suggest great in-game changes from Castillo. Something we haven’t seen last year.
Looked like an excellent game from the defense. Kudos