Detailed Game Review – CAR 30, PHI 22

Posted: November 30th, 2012 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 47 Comments »

When a team falls to 3-8 and plays the kind of crappy football the Eagles are, there is no reason to chart every game in great detail in the normal sense. There is a need to focus on the young and new players since they could be keys to the future. Obsessing on coaching decisions and veterans who might or might not return is somewhat pointless. With that in mind, here goes.   

While I didn’t care about the outcome for any real reason, I did want the Eagles to win for the simple fact I wanted to enjoy watching the team for one night. When they got down 14-3 on a pair of embarrassing TD passes, I got really worried. Losing wasn’t going to kill me, but seeing the team fall apart would have been ugly. Reid might have been fired the next day and things might have really gotten wild.

Instead, the Eagles started making plays and the next thing you know it was 15-14, in our favor. That was very encouraging to see. You want the young guys and backups to show some professional pride, as well as showing us they can make some plays. The Eagles got the best of the 2nd and 3rd Qtrs, outscoring Carolina 19-7, but that wasn’t enough. It was a loss, but not an ugly won like the WAS, DAL, NO, and ATL games were. There were some positives in this game. I didn’t come away totally bummed.

Worth noting…the Eagles only had 16 plays in the 2nd half. There were 2 turnovers by Brown, a fumbled KOR, and a failed 4th down conversion. Drive killers/eliminators. Also, the defense could not stop the Panthers in the 4th Qtr. No punts. Ugh.


Does it matter? Reid stupidly went for 2 down 14-12 in the 1st half. He explained that on his chart that was the right move. If so, throw that chart away and get a new one.

I hated the call to run the ball on 4th/inches. QB sneak. Foles is 6-11, 375 pounds (approx). Why not let him fight for inches?

Other than that…nothing worth really discussing.




FOLES – Up and down game. 16-21-119. No TDs. No turnovers. But that was only due to the fact the Panthers had Edward Scissorhands playing in their secondary.

Nick didn’t make any “wow” throws. He did make a few very good passes. He got the ball to Jeremy Maclin on an out route. That ball was on time and accurate. Foles had good footwork and that helped him to deliver a strike. He threw a quick pass to Damaris Johnson on the right side. Nick didn’t have to read on the play, that’s where it was designed to go. He did get the ball out quickly and accurately. Johnson was able to get 8 yards on that play.

There were a couple of throws that worked, but could have been better. Nick hit Brent Celek down the seam for a good gain. That pass would have been even better if the ball got there half a second earlier. The DB hit Brent almost simultaneously as the ball arrived. I was surprised Brent held on. If the ball gets there just a nose quicker, Brent can turn and brace for the hit, which is what you’d prefer.

Foles threw mostly short stuff, but did launch one deep pass. He threw to Maclin about 50 yards downfield. Mac had a CB and S on him, but was open. Foles read the play and then fired the ball down toward Maclin. The pass fell incomplete, but PI was called on the Safety. Legit call, too. I think Foles threw the pass maybe a second or so late. The ball also hung up and Mac had to slow down for it. Foles must work on his deep accuracy and timing. He should have had a TD to Jackson last week. He should have had a TD to Mac this week. WRs don’t get open down the field every play. When they do and you have the protection, you must make the defense pay.

The bad side of Foles definitely showed on Monday night. He made some poor decisions. There were 2 in the Red Zone on the opening drive. Foles forced a ball on 1st down. Maclin was the receiver and was heavily covered. Foles made a dumb decision to force the ball into coverage. Just throw the ball away. On 2nd down Foles bobbled the snap. Looked like the play was going to be Flip 90 and Bryce Brown had room to run. Could have been a 1st down or TD if well executed. That wasn’t a mental error, unless he bobbled the snap because he was rattled by his 1st down pass. No way to know if that’s what happened. On 3rd down, Foles stared at his left and threw to the left slot. How bad was this? The CB broke in, the S broke in, and the CB covering the other WR to that side broke as well. You cannot lock onto a receiver like that. Good QBs will use their eyes to influence plays. Foles stared at a receiver and then threw him the ball. This is Rookie Ball 101…exactly what not to do.

Foles later threw across his body as he tried to get the ball to Bryce. That was almost picked off. Dumb decision. Foles also threw a short pass to Brent Celek that got him popped by the DE. That was another questionable decision. Celek didn’t know the defender was coming at him. The QB shouldn’t lead his receivers into big hits if he can help it.

Foles did make a good audible on a run play. CAR showed a double A-gap blitz. Foles checked into a different run and Brown was able to get upfield for the 1st down. Foles has the brain. He has the arm. He must work on handling the speed of the game. He needs to make better post-snap reads. He must trust his eyes. He must get the ball out quicker. These are standard rookie issues. They don’t mean Foles can’t play, but he must overcome them if he has a chance to be a successful starting QB. It would help to see progress this week, especially in the Red Zone and with the deep ball.


LEWIS – Backup RB. 5-24 with long run of 11. Solid showing. Hit the hole hard. Tough to bring down on one run. Elusive in traffic.

B BROWN – Huge game. 19-178-2. Had runs of 65, 24, 19, 19, and 11. Kinda decent, huh? Excellent combination of size, speed, and strength. His speed really stood out. Brown showed this in a few ways. He was able to get to the outside on edge runs. He was able to get to the second level when there was a hole at the line of scrimmage. He was also able to turn a good run into a long touchdown. Brown really showed an extra gear on that play. You don’t see 220-pound runners go 65 yards for a score very often. That was the Eagles’ longest run in a couple of years.

Brown showed good vision by being able to find the right hole to hit. I think vision is the most critical thing a RB needs. He must be able to read his blocks and find holes in the defense. On most plays, Brown stuck with the design. There was one run where he cut back all the way to the other side of the formation. Not only did Brown find the holes, he had the ability to get there. He ran hard, but stayed under control. He had good feet. Brown used his size and strength well. There were a couple of third down runs where he was stopped at the line, but ran through initial contact and got the first down.

I loved a run play that went to the outside left. Brown got a good block from King Dunlap and was out on the edge. He used his speed to get by a defender and then turned upfield. Brown had gained about 10 yards and had to deal with another defender. The easy move would have been to step out of bounds. Instead, Brown cut back to the inside and added almost another 10 yards to the run. That play went for a gain of 19. It drives me nuts when players voluntarily go out. The sideline doesn’t miss tackles. Always try to stay inbounds, especially if you aren’t a small guy.

I do want to stress that Brown wasn’t just getting lucky due to terrible defense. Both he and Shady had long runs in the Saints game due to their crappy D. The runs Brown had vs CAR were due to good blocking and skill. I did mention in my preview that Brown’s N-S style of running might do well with the current OL. Blocks don’t have to be perfect. They don’t need to be sustained as long. Shady’s style of running puts a lot of pressure on the OL. Brown’s actually is easier on them.

As exciting as it was to see Brown light it up and look like a star runner, he had a pair of very costly fumbles. Both came in the second half and hurt the Eagles’ chances to win the game. Brown must learn that fumbles won’t be tolerated. All those yards and big plays are no good if you can’t be trusted to keep the ball.

One interesting note…one successful play was the direct snap to Brown. Foles acted as if the ball was over his head, but he snap went to Brown. This worked well 3 times, but resulted in a TFL after that.

HAVILI – We did very little from the I-formation. There were a couple of good blocks, but we ran from the shotgun quite a bit.


CELEK – 2-19. Gain of 16 on seam route. Gain of 3 on dump pass. Took big hits on both. Very good game as a blocker. Did a good job of sealing the edge on outside runs. Got on LBs on runs up the field. Also helped Kelly in pass pro on several plays. Did a good job.

HARBOR – Didn’t play much.


MACLIN – 5-55. Ran good routes. Actually showed some effort as a blocker. That was encouraging.

D JACKSON – 1-9 as receiver. Got hurt running an end around. Only gained 2 yards when DE drove him into the ground and broke a couple of ribs.

COOPER – 1-7. Only had 2 passes come his way. Had a very good game as a blocker. Came in and got a S on 19-yd run to his side. Sealed defender on short TD run. You want big WRs to make an impact in the run game and Cooper did just that.

D JOHNSON – Only caught 2 passes for 13 yds. I do like the way he plays. Doesn’t look like a rookie. Runs good routes. Catches the ball naturally. No hesitation. Had a good block on Brown’s long TD run. If he doesn’t do his part, the play gains 5 yards, not 65.


DUNLAP – Had a solid game, believe it or not. Did give up a sack.

MATHIS – Good game.

REYNOLDS – An improving player. Has become very effective on fold blocks. That’s when the G down blocks and the C pulls around him to take out a LB. Those blocks led to good gains by Brown on a few runs. Did a good job on the 2nd level. I would say he had a flat out good game, but there were a couple of problems. Biggest issue was on 4th/inches. Got driven back by DT and that blew up the play. Reynolds has worked hard to move quickly at the snap. The problem is that by focusing on quickness, he’s not able to be as strong at the point of attack. Will occasionally get driven back off the ball.

SCOTT – Good game. Did have another false start.

KELLY – Got his 2nd start at RT. He showed good progress from last week. Kelly missed a few blocks, but had a solid night overall. He was comfortable in pass protection. He moved his feet well. There was one play where Charles Johnson fired off the ball. Kelly engaged him and sustained the block for a second. Johnson fought off the block, but Kelly stuck with it and rode him wide so that Foles still had a clean pocket. That’s what you want to see from a young tackle. Kelly was good initially, but then didn’t panic when the defender got loose. This is the NFL. Players don’t stay blocked. You must be able to stay with them.

Kelly’s pass pro skills are solid. He moves his feet pretty well. He is quick off the ball. Takes good angles. He isn’t a great athlete, but could become a Runyan-like pass blocker. When DEs start to get by him, Kelly will use his hands to ride the rusher wide/deep. Kelly did get plenty of help from Celek. The coaches tried to protect Kelly so he wasn’t 1-on-1 over and over.

Kelly did some good things in the run game. He had a key block on Brown’s long touchdown run. The defensive end on Kelly’s side dropped back at the snap (due to a zone blitz). Kelly made sure the guy stayed back. Then Kelly stepped upfield and sealed the linebacker. That gave Brown a clean alley to run through. Kelly stayed active on run plays that went away from him. He got linebackers on some. Other times he sealed a backside lineman. Kelly didn’t stop and watch. He found someone to block.

The bad blocks came in run and pass. Kelly failed to control Charles Johnson on a run to the right side. CJ got off the block and stripped the ball from Brown, who wasn’t expecting contact at that part of the run. CJ also drove Kelly back in pass pro on the play where Foles was sacked. The RDE got the sack, but Foles had nowhere to go since Kelly had been driven back to him.

At the least, Kelly is showing he could be a good backup OT. I think he’s shown starting potential.





COLE – Woke up. Had 2 TFLs. Just missed a sack. Got by the LT and hit Newton just after the ball was out (screen pass). Credited with 4 solo stops. Did lose contain on at least one play to his side.

BABIN – Very undisciplined, which I think helped cause his release. Lost contain on a handful of plays. Worst one was final 3rd down play. Took hard inside angle after play fake and let Newton roll out and have time/space to get the pass off cleanly. Worst part of that play is that CAR ran it at the end of the 1st half. Jason had seen it, but fell for it the 2nd time. Also had a dumb offside call late in the game. Did hustle. Chased the ball all over. Just didn’t do it within the framework of the scheme. 4 tackles. Credited with a sack.


JENKINS – Quiet game.

TAPP – Barely played, which was good.

GRAHAM – Backup LDE. Gave up contain on one play when he went inside and got close to sacking Newton. Mostly bull-rushed. Does that a lot normally, but I wondered if this was partially by design to try and box in Newton on pass plays. Credited with 1 tackle.

COX – Got hurt early and left the game. Only 5 snaps.

PATT – Had a nice sack. We ran a stunt where the LDE, LDT slanted inside and Patt looped around them. Newton tried to fake Patt out, but didn’t work and he went down. Led all DTs with 44 snaps.

THORNTON – Got push/penetration on a few plays, but didn’t make any plays.

CURRY – First NFL game. He was credited with 5 tackles. He didn’t get a sack, but came close. Unfortunately, Cam Newton showed how elusive he is and got away. Curry didn’t give up on the play and chased Newton down. Newton gained 3 yards, but you love to see a young player sticking with the play like that. Don’t give up.

Curry played at right end. He was quick off the ball, but not explosive. I thought he showed good strength when he used his bull rush. Curry gave excellent effort. He was effective against the run. With the release of Jason Babin, Curry should get regular playing time the rest of the way. I look forward to seeing what he can do. If he continues to bring that kind of energy to the field, I think he’ll get his first sack in the next few weeks.


KENDRICKS – Up and down game. Credited with 3 tackles. Did a good job in coverage. Highlight moment was when he covered Steve Smith on a crossing route near the goal line. Stuck right with him and broke up the pass. Didn’t look good in the 4th Qtr. Called for holding on 2nd/14 pass play. Pass was incomplete so it would have been 3rd/14 if not for the penalty. Dumb. Didn’t play the run well late. Needed to get off blocks and to the ball.

RYANS – Good game. Typical DeMeco…10 tackles, 1 TFL. I loved one pass play when he knocked a receiver to the ground as the guy was trying to run his route. Did it right at the LOS so it was legal.

JORDAN – 2 tackles, 1 TFL. Played CAR’s option well a couple of times.


ALLEN – Had 3 tackles. Covered well, man-to-man, on some plays.

COLEMAN – Not a good game. Involved in 2 easy TDs. Fell for a look-off by Newton and left the middle of the field wide open for long TD to TE. Blitzed on later play. So did slot guy on other side. One was at fault. Kurt’s blitz came from deep and he didn’t get anywhere near Newton. Tackling was erratic. Whiffed on Newton inside the RZ. Had some other coverage issues as well.


I’m not going to comment on the CBs as individuals. There were several blown coverages where it was very hard to tell who was at fault. Nobody had a good game. All of them gave up completions. None of them did much as tacklers. Other than that, great game.



MCBRIAR – 2-82. 1 punt inside the 20. Neither was returned.

HENERY – 3 of 3 on FGs. 1 touchback on 6 KOs.

PR – Damaris had his best night. 2-32. One PR got 18, the other 14. Elusive on both. Came close to breaking one, but didn’t have the speed to get loose.

KOR – Boykin had his best return of the year, going for 44 yards. Unfortunately, he fumbled on the play. That’s the 2012 Eagles in a nutshell.


* Colt Anderson had a couple of really good tackles on KOs.  Both came inside the 20-yd line.

* Casey Matthews got blown up by a block on KOR.  Drew a flag for illegal  hit.


47 Comments on “Detailed Game Review – CAR 30, PHI 22”

  1. 1 Anders said at 7:57 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Nice to know that Reynolds is improving and that Kelly seems to atleast be a legit backup tackle for the future.

    I would really love to see Menkin play this year. Would also love to see more of Matthews, Sims (he cant be worse than Coleman) and Marsh (NA might not be here next year, Marsh deserves some playing time to show the new coach what he can do)

  2. 2 Ark87 said at 8:21 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Kelly is a legit back-up now. If he gets any better we’ll have trouble keeping him past his rookie contract unless we start him. Such is the state of O-lines in the NFL.

  3. 3 Mac said at 10:38 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Yeah even if they put him in at TE to run behind him…

  4. 4 Ark87 said at 10:43 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    now imagine this set up, turn into a mega running team next year. Run 2 TE sets as the base set, except our TE-s are Jason Peters, and go get Austin Howard back. They both were TE’s at some point right? They’re good for a 4 yard route right? The YAC would be brutal hahaha.

  5. 5 Mac said at 10:44 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Hey, I have had that same thought about Peters! I mean why not jumbo it up and smash some people?

  6. 6 Cafone said at 4:14 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    We’ve got the running backs for it. We just need a coach that will give them the ball.

  7. 7 GFF said at 5:43 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Then pray for Copeland of LSU to declare early and we draft him. That dude leading for BBrown? Like a double barrel of Christian Okoye.

  8. 8 Mac said at 10:15 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Seems like a good kid… wouldnt mind seeing him get a shot.

  9. 9 LostInChiTown said at 10:02 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Tommy – crazy draft thought. We don’t know if Foles is the answer at QB and this draft doesn’t have a great stock of QB’s from what I’ve heard. What if we traded our 1st round pick for a bounty of 2014 & 2015 picks. 2014 is supposed to be a much better year for talent, right? Basically, we put ourselves in a position to do what the Skins did in trading for RG3, only we start with extra 1st round picks so as not to cripple ourselves in future drafts. Foles or Vick with a restructured deal could be fine next year if our next coach relies mostly on the run game. Shoot, Alex Smith made it to the NFC championship game. Nothing seems to set back a franchise like missing on QBs and I’ve been spoiled by the Eagles stability.

  10. 10 Mac said at 10:48 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    I’ve had the same idea in the past. Last year I was worried we couldn’t come away with Fletch or Luke and was hopeful to roll the 1st rounder into a late 2012 1st and 2013 1st… I think the problem with that is that while we may be seeing young talented guys light things up now, they may pull a Barkley/Honey Badger and show us they’re not top flight talent. Not saying I’m opposed to stock piling to make sure we can get our guy in the future, but I think that may be part of the philosophy behind not rolling picks forward. It also probably depends heavily on how the board falls…

  11. 11 Ark87 said at 11:32 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Exactly right. But also keep in mind that next year’s draft is underwhelming for most of us because….well it’s November still. All the hype, all the gushing scouting reports, all the work outs, all the bowl games have not happened yet. True, Colts fans were in love with luck pretty much by October last year and there is nobody even close to that this year, but Luck is a once a decade sort of prospect. I’m sure there will be plenty of players to get excited about by February. There will be gems, Howie and his scouts just need to find them.

  12. 12 holeplug said at 10:52 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    The only reason the Rams got a bounty of picks was b/c RG3 was such a hyped prospect and he is a QB. No one in this draft comes even close to RG3 or Luck in terms of hype so the chances of getting the Rams haul of picks is very slim.

  13. 13 austinfan said at 11:40 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    What you can do is trade down a couple times in the top 10 as teams maneuver for position. Won’t get you a huge haul,

    Wash 10 for Jax 16, 49
    Den 11 for SF 13, 130
    Den 13 for Phl 24, 70, 87
    Cle 5 for NYJ 17,52
    Cle 17 for TB 19, 191
    NE 7, 164 for NO 10, 78
    Bal 8 for Jax 26, 71, 89, 125
    Dal 22 for Cle 36, 1st rd 2008
    Jax 17 fo Den 21, 86, 198

  14. 14 TommyLawlor said at 10:59 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    We could trade for future ammo. We won’t get a deal like the Rams did, but we could get a 2014 1st rounder and other picks to help. Key is for there to be a prospect that some team covets. Could be elite CB or LT or stud DT/NT. You don’t know what player other teams will covet quite yet.

  15. 15 shah8 said at 6:44 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    I think moving down the top of the draft and getting extra high draft picks generally turns out to be a waste. Most teams I’ve ever seen do that–thinking Cleveland last year–tend to use the extra pick on some current ideé fixe. Keep the single pick, and keep scout discipline.

  16. 16 laeagle said at 7:37 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Worked pretty well for the Chargers in 2001. Traded the #1 to Atlanta (for Vick), picked up Tomlinson and Brees. Not a bad haul to get 2 potential hall of famers from one pick.

  17. 17 shah8 said at 7:54 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Chargers also did well in the Manning trade.

  18. 18 laeagle said at 7:57 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Your point about “most” is well taken, though. The patriots made a lot of noise in the mid to late 2000s with all the trading around they did, and I can’t think of a single impact player they got as a result. They kept stockpiling 2nd rounders and then releasing them a couple of years later.

  19. 19 aub32 said at 10:30 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Tommy, I would like to know if there are any viable options at safety coming up either in FA or the draft. Also, are there any options at CB that are better than what we have. I don’t feel that question applies to the safeties as I find it hard to believe that position could get much worse.

  20. 20 TommyLawlor said at 10:58 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Don’t know about FA. Safety class in the draft looks pretty good. I’ll be writing about them.

    CB is interesting. We might hire a coach that wants both Nnamdi and DRC back. Both guys are talented. They are struggling this year, but I think coaching is a big part of that.

  21. 21 austinfan said at 11:27 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    You think Aso has anything left? He’s lost a couple steps, can’t run with speed receivers, and he’s not quick enough to be a zone CB, nor can he tackle, so forget safety.

    My problem with DRC is he’s the poster child for this team, highly talented player who underachieved his whole career, has bad technique, loses focus and doesn’t play physical (makes Asante look like Ronde Barber). He’s convinced himself he’s an elite CB who doesn’t have to pay the price to get better.

  22. 22 Ark87 said at 11:52 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Bit of hyperbole on DRC’s physicality. The guy wants to put a hurt on people…he keeps launching on QBS and going high on “defenseless receivers.” Moreover the guy can play press pretty well.

    He will avoid running back like the plague. Most CB’s do though.

  23. 23 Ben Hert said at 3:50 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    I haven’t seen anything that sums up this Eagles team better than you just did. Perfect.

  24. 24 Mac said at 11:51 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Thank goodness. I really hope we can find a top end S in this draft. As much as I love what Coleman brings to the table, he just seems to have more of that Macho Harris athletic ability. If we could transplant Coleman’s head onto Quentin Demps body, we might have a starting caliber S.

    There is zero chance that Bowles sticks as our DBs coach since he moved up to DC right? Ugh… why did we fire Castillo again?

  25. 25 dklausner said at 12:23 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Phillip Thomas. No, no, not the one currently on the Eagles’ PS. I’m talking about the Fresno State safety and Jim Thorpe Award finalist.

    As soon as you watch Thomas play, you’ll fall in love. I’m fairly certain of that. He’s my #1 safety in this class, regardless of what underclassmen (i.e. Matt Elam, another personal favorite) declare. Thomas is cream of the crop, having a spectacular season after missing all of 2011 with serious left leg injury (broken fibula, dislocated ankle, torn ligament) and, in my opinion, will be an immediate NFL starter for whichever team drafts him.

    Total package at safety and major playmaker who can do it all. Thomas has the size (~6’1″, 215 lbs) and strength to play down near the line (have seen him take on OL and shed blocks countless times); good tackler (82 TT, 64 solo) who hits HARD and violently (3 FF) but manages to keep it clean (he’s been flagged for clean hits because of how vicious they looked). Also a lethal blitzer and disruptive force behind LOS (4 sacks and leads TEAM with 12 TFL!). What puts Thomas over the top for me, however, is how he’s performed against the pass; shown impressive range, coverage ability, and ball skills (8 INT leads nation, 3 of which were returned for TD). Instincts are off the charts.

    After the pre-draft process is completed, I think Thomas’s stock settles somewhere in the second round.

  26. 26 47_Ronin said at 4:15 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Fresno State’s P. Thomas is a beast. I’m glad he has been able to come back and play well after the injury. I have not been able to see a lot of Fresno games in Wash DC, but in the Colorado State game Thomas put on a highlight video of outstanding safety play. The level of competition in Mt West is a concern. I’m somewhat excited over the 2013 safety class Thomas, B. Rambo, Shawn Williams, Duke Williams & Josh Evans all look like good prospects.

  27. 27 Gregory Post said at 10:33 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    I heard that Tannehill had the same problem in the beginning of the season, where he was staring down receivers before throwing them the ball. Do you think Foles could be on the level of Tannehill if he progresses, or is there a different quarterback that Foles would be more aptly compared to?

  28. 28 TommyLawlor said at 10:56 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    I like Tannehill quite a bit as a QB. More than Nick. I do think Nick can improve quite a bit, but I’m not sure what his ceiling is. I’d like to think he can be an NFL starter, but he’s got to show progress.

  29. 29 shah8 said at 6:35 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    As with Ryan Mallet, Foles is probably too immobile to be a very serious prospect for starting QB. The one big thing he showed in preseason, for me was better mobility than I thought he had–but that hasn’t really translated into games other than his Dallas intro.

    Tannehill, I don’t think should ever have been starting this early. Has not played all *that* well, and probably is looking at a serious sophomore slump next year. More accurate than Jake Locker, who’s looking just a little too much like Kyle Boller right now. However, is just really freaking raw, rawer than some people are willing to admit. Aaron Rogers treatment would have done him much better. Less chance to adapt bad habits, refine throwing motion, learn a real offense, so forth and on.

  30. 30 Mac said at 10:36 AM on November 30th, 2012:


    Do you think it’s possible we didn’t QB sneak the 4th down due to Reynold’s ankle being messed up?

  31. 31 TommyLawlor said at 10:55 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Possible, but he got blown up on the play and it killed us anyway. You can sneak off the RG or LG if you want. Doesn’t have to be behind the C.

  32. 32 austinfan said at 11:34 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    One thing to remember about Kelly is he was a true freshman in college, most big program OL redshirt their first year to get stronger, Kelly started 3 years at Purdue at LT. He doesn’t turn 23 until January, compare for example to junior entrant Reiff who is almost 2 years older. 6’8 321 on his pro day, with a full off season should play at around 330 lbs next year, which is similar to Runyan (6’7 325). Only negative is 33 1/2 arms, which means he has to have good footwork in pass protection, he can’t “Tra” people.

    The next five games are key, but watching him I think he has a real shot at being the starting RT for the rest of the decade. Playing for Mudd will help him shift to a conventional set, because of Mudd’s emphasis on hand use and striking the DE. The added strength as he fills out should help him become a good run blocker, the key to his future will be his footwork in pass protection.

    It’s nice that Reynolds has become serviceable, but I never want to see him start another game for the Eagles. Tennant must be bad if they’re moving Mathis to center this week, he has too much experience not to start if he can play – which is why they should dump him and sign an OL off someone’s PS – why waste a roster spot on a guy you don’t think has starter potential down the road?

  33. 33 RIP Worms said at 11:49 AM on November 30th, 2012:

    Loved this re: CBs: “All of them gave up completions. None of them did much as tacklers. Other than that, great game.”

  34. 34 Cal Setar said at 12:03 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    This season might be disappearing quickly down the drain, taking AR and the last 14 years with it.

    But boy, it’s hard not to get excited when looking at all the young guys. This draft class has a chance to be pretty special.

  35. 35 ddubya said at 1:01 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Was that first BB fumble actually a fumble. It looked like he lost control after he went to the ground to me. Though the commentary crew seemed to miss it and the eagles coaching staff seemed to miss it. And I haven’t heard anybody on here talk about it. Maybe I had a few too many pops. Strange Andy Reid missing a chance to challenge I thought at the time.

  36. 36 Ark87 said at 1:18 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    I thought his right knee hit the ground, so unless he had been losing control on his way down…..You can actually see the Eagles sidline saying it was down. That looks crystal clear to me that his hand forearm and right knee were all down before it came out.

    Aren’t turnover automatically reviewed? There isn’t a good angle on the football to tell if the ball was coming out on his way down, looked like he had it to me though.

  37. 37 TommyLawlor said at 1:50 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Re-watched closely. Definitely was a fumble. Didn’t appear so live, but it was. Good call.

  38. 38 Ark87 said at 2:09 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    The angle on my link wasn’t too good where the football is concerned. I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the game, either way.This team feels cursed. It’s really uncanny. Staying competitive in a game, then an incredible chain of events makes it look like the Panthers crushed us. It’s not like the other teams aren’t making mistaking big mistakes at critical times. We are just always finding a way to one-up them.

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 10:17 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Andy couldn’t challenge it. It was an automatic review.

  40. 40 knighn said at 1:29 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    4th and inches…
    No hard count? Foles had pulled the Panthers off sides a couple of times earlier in the game with the hard count. Was a little surprised that that they didn’t at least attempt it there!

  41. 41 Mac said at 1:37 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    excellent point

  42. 42 TommyLawlor said at 1:50 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Yep, knighn is on the money with that. Should have tried it.

  43. 43 Ark87 said at 3:36 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    That only works on the Eagles

  44. 44 Matthew Verhoog said at 8:32 PM on November 30th, 2012:


  45. 45 Cal Setar said at 5:38 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Per Roob, David Sims has been getting some 1st team reps in place of…Nate Allen???

    What the what.

  46. 46 Mac said at 10:17 PM on November 30th, 2012:

    Probably due to injury of some sort, right?

  47. 47 Pure said at 10:39 PM on November 30th, 2012: I suggest anyone in a bad mood watch this video. Perhaps our 2012 Eagles could do something like it. Of course, we could avoid phrases such as “I learned long ago that if you ram it just right/you can ram it all day and ram it all night.”, but hopefully you get the point.

    I’m sure we could fit a DJax and Jimmy Bama verse in there too, for Tommy’s sake.