Detailed Game Review – PHI 23, TB 21

Posted: December 12th, 2012 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 50 Comments »

Eagles. Bucs. Rookie QB. Comeback win. 23-21 final. Back in 2006 it was the Bucs who pulled off the miracle when Matt Bryant hit a 62-yard FG at the end of the game to win. This time around the Eagles came up with the W. Both times rookie QBs beat veterans.

The 2006 Eagles overcame the loss and still won the NFC East. The 2012 Eagles overcame the victory to maintain the #4 position in the NFL Draft. How times have changed, huh?    

It was fun to see the team win. Watching Jeremy Maclin jump up and then sprint down the field after his score was cool. Seeing Andy Reid hug Duce Staley and Howard Mudd was weird but cool. There is a lot of beef in that trio. Mudd actually got Reid off the ground. That definitely is the top feat of strength in the upcoming Festivus celebration.

Re-watching games is interesting. Your perspective on players and the game can change. Some losses aren’t as bad. Some wins aren’t as good. I came away confused by this game. The Eagles were lucky to win. There was the dropped INT by the DB on Foles 3rd down pass at the end of the game. There was Maclin’s non-fumble that sure looked like a fumble. It took Avant making a miracle catch to jump start the first FG drive. The Eagles actually benefited from Foles missing Cooper and Avant when both were wide open for long TDs on the go-ahead drive. Had Foles hit either guy for the score, there would have been about 90 seconds left and the Bucs would have only needed a FG to either win or tie (depends on Eagles and the 2-pt conversion).

Before you think I’m totally down on the Eagles, that’s not the case. Nick Foles was every bit as impressive the second time around. I loved the way the offense clicked on those final 2 drives. That was fun to watch. Everybody did their part. That was good team football. I’m very curious to see if the team can build off that or if it will disappear since the Bucs dreadful secondary won’t be on the field. I thought the Eagles had coverage issues. Wow. The Bucs make us look like the 2002 Bucs.

The one thing that stuck out to me while re-watching the game as how much more aggressive and physical the Bucs were. Ronde Barber shed a King Dunlap block to tackle Maclin on a WR screen. The Bucs WRs blocked our LBs. Our defenders struggled with getting off blocks. Their DL won more individual battles with our OL. Trent Cole got blocked by a TE on multiple plays.


Not too much to say. No crucial decisions. I didn’t like the fact we kept trying to run outside, but the Bucs have the #1 run D so I don’t know that going up the middle would have made a big difference. Also, we played mostly from the shotgun. That can have an impact on what run plays are called, especially against a defense that shoots gaps and attacks as much as Tampa.


* Dick Stockton was awful. He said that Foles is “6-6 and weighs 243 yards”.

* The refs reviewed the final play for ever. It was clearly a TD. I’m a paranoid Eagles fan and I know it, but it almost felt like they were looking for a way to overrule it. “The receiver did catch the ball, but failed to establish…Prima Nocta. Yeah, Prima Nocta. So the ruling on the field is overturned and the heroic Bucs are winners over the lesser Eagles, who will serve as their love-slaves in the afterworld.”

* I really got confused when I couldn’t make out the ref’s ruling and heard all the cheers. Didn’t realize just how many Eagles fans were down there. Impressive.

* How beautiful was it to beat the Bucs on the day they celebrated the 10th anniversary of their SB win? Stockton and John Lynch kept talking about the 2002 Bucs. Simeon Rice and Derrick Brooks were up in the booth with them, but not mic’d up. That was worthless. And what was Rice wearing? He had a white T-shirt and these ultra-thin suspenders. Weird, just weird.




FOLES – First win. First comeback. Good game. 32-51-381. 2 TDs, no INTs. Ran 3-27. Had one TD and 2 first downs. That’s being efficient as a runner.

Maybe the biggest thing for Foles was pocket presence. He was sacked 6 times. He was hit quite a few others. That didn’t take a toll on him. Foles stayed focused on his receivers, keeping his vision downfield rather than shifting it to the rushers. He moved really well in the pocket. He was able to slide left and right, and to step up in the pocket. He bought time, but never panicked. This showed excellent toughness and discipline, both key traits in a good QB.

The comeback was great. Foles led the team on 64 and 72-yard TD drives in the final 7:21. I think Foles did this with style points. There were no fluke plays. There wasn’t a pass to Maclin that went for a 50-yard TD. No defender fell down for him. Foles moved the team down the field methodically. The game-winning play was all about execution. Jason Avant said after the game that Tampa had the right defense for that play. It wasn’t favorable to us, but Maclin got open and made a terrific catch. Nick threw a perfect pass. Great execution.

Nick’s decision-making has really improved. He still has his rookie moments where you shake your head and wonder what he was thinking, but they are becoming fewer and fewer. His decisions on when to run were excellent, except for one play when he was hesitant and got sacked for minimal loss. Couldn’t make up his mind on that play.

The other players seem to respond well to Nick. He replaced a popular veteran in Mike Vick. There can be some awkward moments when that happens and not everyone buys in, but I’ve seen none of that. Foles adjusted the 4th down play where Avant caught the pass and set up the TD. Reid let Foles pick the final play to run. Foles did a good job of getting the team to the line so he could spike the ball and we could even get the final play off. Foles isn’t just playing the position of QB, he’s acting the part. He’s become a team leader.

-Misc Plays-

* Hit Avant on 3rd/17 along the sideline. Jason made a spectacular catch. Foles was getting hit and still got the ball off. He put it up in the air where Jason had a chance to make a play on it. This was a stab in the dark, but a smart one. And it paid off.

* Deep balls remain an issue. Missed Cooper going down the left sideline by about a foot, maybe 18 inches. That was a pretty good throw. There was a play late in the game when Nick correctly read a blitz. He had Mac and Coop running deep and open. Foles went for Coop and the ball was too far out in front. He did have to get rid of that prior to getting hit. There was a play where Avant was wide open down the right side. Nick put the ball right on the sideline and Avant had to make a tightrope catch. If that ball is 5 feet more to the inside, Avant had a chance to catch and run. He might have scored.

* Nick ran for the Eagles first TD. It was supposed to be a screen to the left. The whole Tampa defense went that way. Nick waited for a minute and then took off since there was only one defender to the right side. Nick got a good block by Mac and scored easily. It was an incredibly s-l-o-w run. I couldn’t believe no defender chased him down.

* The next TD came in the 4th Qtr. Nick moved up in the pocket. He leveled off and moved at an angle rather than just forward. This kept him from going beyond the LOS. Nick was straddling the line when he found Harbor open at the back of the end zone. Nick made a good throw. Mac was open on the play, but Ronde Barber was kind of between Nick and Mac. While Mac was more open, the better throwing lane was to Harbor. Good decision.

* That play required Nick to throw off balance and to lead his receiver, while throwing the ball into traffic. It wasn’t easy. Nick did a similar thing on the final drive and the pass was almost picked off. Initially I thought that was a terrible decision, but it really was a bad throw. He didn’t lead the receiver and that allowed the CB to play the ball. If Nick leads the receiver, it might have been caught. There was an earlier play where Nick tried to hit Avant on the right side on a 3rd down. Avant was wide open. Nick was getting hit as he threw and couldn’t get much on the ball. The DB broke the pass up. The 2-point conversion attempt was another play where someone was open and Nick couldn’t get him the ball. Nick was going to the ground and tried to hit Dion right by the pylon. The ball short-hopped.

If Nick can improve on speeding up his delivery and getting more velocity on these off-balance throws, he can start to complete more oddball passes. Not all passes in the NFL are thrown from a clean pocket with proper mechanics. The QBs who can hit these tough throws drive defenses mad. Rodgers is very good at them. Romo can be. Eli too. Favre was masterful at them.

* I like the fact Nick isn’t doing the same thing over and over. He threw some quick passes in the 2nd Qtr when the coaches were trying to jump start the offense. Nick isn’t afraid to throw short to his first read and only get 4 or 5 yards. He also will throw deep. He is good with WR screens. Vick somewhat fell in love with the deep ball. Kevin Kolb had the one game vs WAS when he completed 15 or so checkdown throws.

* I want to go back to mental toughness for a second. Final drive. Foles makes a bad throw on 3rd down that should have been picked off. The DB can’t make the grab so the Eagles are still alive. Foles doesn’t panic. In the huddle he makes an adjustment and has Avant run a seam route. The outside WRs push the CBs and Safeties deep, leaving a huge void in the middle of the field. Avant is wide open. Nick anticipated this after just almost costing his team the game with a bad throw. That’s focus. That’s mental toughness. Then he executed the pass to Avant for the 1st down. Then he got the team set up and spiked it. Foles then chose the final play and hit Mac for the winning score. That is amazing focus.

We’re still learning about Nick, but he sure seems to have what it takes between the ears and that is a huge part of being a good NFL QB.


LEWIS – 1 carry for -4 yards. Had no chance on the play. Caught a pass late in the 1st half and went up the sideline for 28 yards. That set up a long FG attempt. Dion played a fair amount in the 4th Qtr when we were passing a lot. Did a good job in pass pro.

B BROWN – 12 carries for 6 yards. Not his fault. Tampa played swarming run D. Bryce had one good run when he got loose to the left side for 11 yards. 2-6 as a receiver. Did have some good pass blocks in the game.

HAVILI – Only played 11 snaps. Quiet game.


CELEK – Got hurt on the first play of the game. Caught a short pass. Took on one defender and was then hit from the side by a LB and that gave Brent a concussion.

HARBOR – Good game. Was the only TE after Celek went out. Clay was targeted 6 times and caught all 6 passes. Gained 52 yards and had a TD. Looked good. I’ve always wondered why he’s not more a part of the passing game. Had some good blocks in the game. Was good on WR screens. Clay would go to the outside and seal the CB. Did this well several times. Non-factor as a run blocker. Helped in pass pro.


MACLIN – Good game. 9-104-1. Did a good job of keeping the chains moving. Got RAC yards on the WR screens. Possibly had a TD on one, but Foles threw an errant pass and Mac couldn’t make the grab. The catch on the final play was very impressive. Mac ran a good route to get open. Made a quick cut that created just enough separation and gave Nick a good passing angle. Mac made the sliding catch and never came close to letting go of the ball. I was most impressed by him as a blocker. Mac put a DB on the ground on Nick’s TD run. He had a good block on Dion’s long catch and run. Very encouraging to see him doing the little things and playing like a stud WR.

AVANT – Great game. 7-133. His catch on the left sideline was one of the best grabs I’ve ever seen. He went up, extended his arm and secured the ball. In the air. With one arm. He then came down and got an elbow on the ground before going out of bounds. This netted 20 yards on 3rd/17 and set up the first points of the game. Prior to that play we had 31 yards of offense. Avant did a great job on his 4th down catch late in the game. The catch itself was simple (but did have to be made). Avant fought to get into the endzone, but when he realized that wasn’t going to happen, he went down. He jumped up and got the ball to the correct official so it could be spotted quickly. Jason said he didn’t want to put it on the ground where Tampa could mess with it. Love the fact he was thinking like that. Smart football. Avant caught a 39-yard pass down the right sideline when the DBs lost sight of him and he got wide open. Sloppy throw from Nick made that catch really tough. Turned it into a tightrope act. Avant caught a short throw and added 10+ RAC yards to get the 1st down and move the chains. Excellent job of blocking, as always. Was used to chip on DEs at times.

COOPER – Good game. 4-37. Also blocked well. Had the key block on Dion’s catch and run.

D JOHNSON – 2-20. Long play was 14. Got good RAC yards on that.


* Foles was sacked 6 times. Could have been 10 if he wasn’t moving so well in the pocket.

* Eagles rushed for a total of 29 yards.  Foles had 27 of them.

* Not a good day for the O-line.

* The Eagles did seem to do a pretty good job against the blitz.  4-man rushes were the big problem.  Stunts were somewhat effective.  This was more about individuals losing 1-on-1 battles than anything else.
DUNLAP – Struggled in pass pro. Did a good job at times, but not consistently. Hustled outside on the WR screens. Effective on those. Had a good run block on the one positive run that came to his side. Generally struggled with Tampa’s attacking style. Most discouraging moment was when Te’o-Nesheim beat him cleanly with an inside move and hit Foles hard.

MATHIS – Had the best game up front. Didn’t have any highlight blocks like he did against Dallas.

REYNOLDS – Rough game. Gerald McCoy got the best of him a couple of times.

SCOTT – Rough game. Gerald McCoy also got to him. Jake is a solid athlete, but Tampa’s lateral quickness gave him fits. Would set hard to block, only to see the DL cross his face and attack the inside. Won his share of battles, but easily his worst game as an Eagle.

KELLY – Rough game. Struggled a lot. Had problems with speed rushers off the edge. I do give Dennis credit that even when he was beat, he rode them as wide as possible. A few times this allowed Nick to step up in the pocket. Had problems with power moves as well. Michael Bennett gave him fits early on. Kelly gave up a sack on the final drive. Didn’t fare much better as a run blocker.





COLE – Bad game. 1 assisted tackle. Was single-blocked by the TE on multiple plays. Maybe the most discouraging play was when Trent got into the backfield and flushed Freeman. Trent was there to chase him, but Freeman started to pull away. Josh isn’t a statue by any means, but I’d hope Trent would win that race most of the time. Trent did get pressure a few times. He did have some good moments. I was just disappointed with his overall performance. There were multiple plays when he was sealed easily on run plays and Martin went to that spot.

JENKINS – Had a sack, but wasn’t regularly disruptive. No other tackles in the game.

GRAHAM – Okay game. Had a couple of tackles, including a TFL. Partially responsible for Jenkins’ sack. Graham got free to the inside and made Freeman move. Jenkins was then able to get to him. Brandon wasn’t getting consistent pressure, but did move the OT backward more than a few times.

COX – Best DL in the game. Got penetration multiple times. Wasn’t always able to make the play, but did have a sack and TFL. Credited with 4 solo stops. Stuffed Martin on the Bucs final play of the game. That got the ball back for Foles and the offense. TFL was odd. Read a screen and was right there by Martin. Freeman threw him the ball anyway and Cox made the tackle easily.

LANDRI – Too quiet. Had 1 tackle.

TAPP – Only played a few snaps. Saw time at both LDE and RDE.

HUNT – Played both sides. Showed good speed off the ball, but didn’t make any plays.

THORNTON – Had some good moments, but not enough. Credited with 2 tackles. Called for facemask penalty when tackling Martin. Got away with hands to the face penalty on another play.

CURRY – Quiet game. Made 1 impressive play. LB disrupted a run and Vinny was there to hit Martin from behind for the TFL. Tampa took advantage of that pursuit hustle. They ran Flip 90 to his side and Martin got by him easily. Vinny was a non-factor as a pass rusher. Still needs work in that area.


KENDRICKS – Moved to WLB for the first time this year. Good game. In on 7 tackles. Had a TFL. Created a TFL for Curry with good penetration. Had 3 PDs. Had a chance to pick off all 3, but couldn’t do it. None were easy plays, but the defense needs someone to step up and make a big play to come up with a takeaway. I thought Kendricks was good in coverage. Run defense was very up and down. Too often struggled to get off blocks.

RYANS – Led the team with 7 tackles, but I didn’t think he had a strong game. Too often he was making tackles downfield. Part of that is that blockers were getting too him easily, but a veteran LB like Ryans should win more battles than he did.

CHANEY – Good game. Was in on 4 tackles. Had a PD. Played up on the LOS at times. Off the ball at others. Did a good job of covering TEs. Didn’t look like his first start since the PIT game. Seemed comfortable out there. Benefited the most of anyone from the schematic changes.


ALLEN – Typical Nate. Mixture of good and bad. In on 5 tackles. Had some good moments in coverage. Downside is that he was sloppy as a tackler on some plays where WRs were on the move. Seemed okay in run support.

ANDERSON – Good game. Honestly, I had serious doubts about him getting the start. Colt played on defense back in 2010 and you loved his effort, but his limitations were obvious. He played some vs DET this year and struggled. I’m glad the coaches didn’t listen to me. Colt played well. He had 5 solo tackles and was excellent in run support. A couple of the tackles were right at the LOS. He flew up quickly and decisively took out the legs of the RB. I was just as impressed that he seemed to be in the right spots in coverage. There were a couple of deep balls where he was right there to make the tackle if the pass was completed. Late in the game Colt was held by an OL and that helped get the ball back for the winning drive. Colt had a chance to make a diving INT, but was unable to hold onto the ball. I assume he was just trying to fit in with his teammates.


NNAMDI – I don’t know what the heck to say. I thought he was awful when I watched the game live. Seemed less bad when I re-watched, but that might have only been since my expectations were so low. No matter how you slice it, got beaten too much. Gave up TD on 3rd/GL. Was in good position, but was slow to react and play the ball. Had 6 solo tackles. Did play harder than recent games. Made a leaping attempt to get a pass and took a really hard fall that kept him out for a while.

DRC – Good game. He broke up three passes and had two solo tackles. He laid a big hit on tight end Dallas Clark. That shocked me. Rodgers-Cromartie just doesn’t do stuff like that. A couple of plays later he made a clean tackle of Martin in the open field. That was even more of a shocker. Rodgers-Cromartie was very good on downfield coverage. That covered several plays. Tampa likes to throw deep. Broke up one of them. Had a chance for a possible INT in the 2nd half on a short throw to his side. Instead hit the guy and broke up the pass. I’d like to see a guy with DRC’s athleticism go for the ball on plays like that when he can see it and attack it. My biggest complaint was his effort on a catch and run that resulted in a touchdown. Chaney was covering the WR initially (I think we were in zone). DRC was back at the GL. His job was to attack wherever the ball went. Instead, he waited for the receiver to come to him. Easy TD. Bad effort.

BOYKIN – Quiet game. Tampa didn’t throw his way much.

MARSH – Played in place of Nnamdi for a while. Had one highlight play where he went up and broke up a downfield pass in the air. Watching the game live, I was impressed with Marsh. The re-watch wasn’t so good. Looked slow. His receiver had a step on him several times. Would really like to see him in action to know if he’s worth keeping or not.



MCBRIAR – 7-343 (49 per punt). Long was 66.

HENERY – The dream is over. Had hit 578 straight FGs, dating all the way back to 1962 (numbers/dates are not exactly exact). Went 1 for 3. Was ready to kick 53-yd’er late in the half when a blocker was called for false start. Moved it back to 58. Henery hit the left upright. Close, but no cigar. The ball did hit near the top of the upright. That would have been good from 65 or more. Missed a chip shot in the 2nd half. The laces were pointing in, a big no-no. I don’t know if that is why he missed, but it didn’t help. Really pulled the kick so the laces may not have made a huge difference.

PR – Damaris had an 18-yd return that helped spark a FG drive. He also muffed a punt that set up Tampa for a TD drive. Not good. That is 2 critical ball handling mistakes for him this year. Both led to TDs. The frustrating part is that I thought he made good decisions about when to field the ball. Just got careless on that one play.

KOR – Boykin had one good return of 32 yards. Other was not so impressive…just 23 yds.


* Roscoe Parrish had a 30-yd PR.


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Jimmy Bama did a fantastic breakdown of Foles pocket presence.  Great stuff.


50 Comments on “Detailed Game Review – PHI 23, TB 21”

  1. 1 Anders said at 1:24 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I really fear Cole is done. In previous years a TE would never have been able to handle Cole 1vs1.

    I really hope the LBs can benefit from the scheme change.

  2. 2 TommyLawlor said at 3:07 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I don’t know what to say about Trent. It is possible that he’s just gotten old. Hate to think that, but possible.

  3. 3 Ty-Philly said at 5:28 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Too much hanging out with babin this offseason. I think he rebounds with a good year next year.

  4. 4 Cal Setar said at 6:13 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I said this above, but I wonder if maybe it has something to do with their specific offseason training for playing in the Wide-9. You’re going all out for a couple snaps, then rotating off, then going all out again. Sprints over a marathon kind of thing. Could also explain why we keep seeing Graham drop off in the second half of games.

  5. 5 austinfan said at 9:19 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Kinda of doubt it. Though as I said above, hard to judge the DL off Sunday or Thursday, you spend two years doing it one way, two weeks another way, you’re gonna look a little awkward. Same with the LBs.

    I think Cole was never well suited to the wide 9, he wasn’t very fast (why he was never looked at as a 3-4 LB), and his strength was always his leverage off the snap. But the explosion isn’t there – we saw this with Douglas in 2002, 12.5 sacks, MIA in the playoffs, mediocre in Jax in 2003. DEs often fall off fast. Cole may be our #3/#/4 DE next year because he’s too expensive to cut, but if he’s starting, the defense may be hurting.

  6. 6 ChaosOnion said at 1:36 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Did Nnamdi look better before the hard fall? He seemed a bit hesitant when he came back into the game.

  7. 7 TommyLawlor said at 3:08 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Not all that much. They were really struggling on offense then and didn’t test him that much.

  8. 8 Mike Flick said at 1:41 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I think Maclin’s fumble, non-fumble was nonrenewable because it was whistled dead before the defender was able to recover it.

    There is one shot where the official is clearly waving it dead when the ball was 10 yds down field and no one was close to it. You need to show that it dropped and you clearly gained possession before the whistle blew.

  9. 9 TommyLawlor said at 3:08 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    You’re right. Still, lucky break for us.

  10. 10 Mike Flick said at 7:51 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    All the times it goes against us, having one lucky break is a start to even it out.

    For a second, I thought we might get another 15 yards for challenging an unchallengeable play.

  11. 11 TheRogerPodacter said at 3:09 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    right. i’m thinking that the refs discussed it with schiano and told him that they can review it to see if it was or was not a fumble, but there was no way that it could be a turnover so he probably declined to review it from there.

  12. 12 austinfan said at 1:44 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    They’re stuck with Cole next year due to the cap consequences, so much for extending players out of loyalty! He may be exhibit #1 next time a veteran comes and asks his deal to be renegotiated, Howie’s gonna say (if he’s still around), fine, but no dead money.

    Patterson and Jenkins both cost around $4.5M next year, at this point both are more solid reserves than starters, it’ll be interesting to see if they keep them, and how far down they renegotiate their deals.

    Though one factor in looking at the DL is that this is a drastic change to implement with one practice, same problem this Thursday, we may not get a good read until the last two games when they have a full week or two to get comfortable doing it Brasher’s way.

    Chaney look more comfortable than he has since 2010, he was definitely not suited to the wide 9. Kendricks had to shift sides and adopt to a new system, wonder if part of his problems with getting off blocks was simply being back on his heels from thinking too much? Again, the best test for the front seven will be the last two games when they get to practice behind the new alignment and get a better feel for the shift in their responsibilities.

    Anderson is interesting, he’s smart, athletically and size wise he’s not that different from Coleman, but he came out of a small college so it may have taken longer to figure out the pro game. He’s explosive attacking run plays, too bad he’s not 6’0 210 lbs, he’d be a heck of a SS, but I doubt at his size he’ll last 16 games playing that way. Still, you like him showing that he can be trusted to play a few games a year, similar to Jordan, you want your ST specialists to be adequate when forced into action. It’s probably asking too much for him to become the next Mikell (ST specialist who worked his way into a starting role).

    Kelly was a big disappointment, but he’s very young, he has three games to show he can learn and rebound from a bad day.

  13. 13 GermanEagle said at 1:56 PM on December 12th, 2012:


    between your favourite sons in the Eagles D Line, who’s the most disappointing this season, Landri or Cole?!

  14. 14 TommyLawlor said at 3:09 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Tough, tough question. Let me think about that.

  15. 15 GermanEagle said at 3:22 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    No probs. It’s hard for a mum to pick her favourite son sometimes. 😉

  16. 16 Crus57 said at 6:31 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    At this point we just need Landri to get popped for PEDs and he is Sam Rayburn 2.0

  17. 17 P_P_K said at 2:09 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Mudd actually got Reid off the ground. That definitely is the top feat of strength in the upcoming Festivus celebration.

    Great line!

  18. 18 P_P_K said at 2:19 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    “…Prima Nocta. Yeah, Prima Nocta.”

    I had to look it up. If any of you guys are considering inviting Tommy to your wedding, I’d advise against it.

  19. 19 TommyLawlor said at 3:11 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Got the reference from Braveheart. And then The Office used it once in a hilarious scene.

  20. 20 BobSmith77 said at 2:23 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Nice writeup. I would love to see Nnamdi get benched and Marsh to start the final 3 games just to see if he is worth considering next year as a potential solution at CB even as a dime guy.

    At least Nnamdi played hard last week after a questionable effort the weak before. Still gets my nod though for ‘biggest FA bust’ the Eagles have signed since the advent of FA back in the early 90s given the expectations. ‘Okay’ last year and just been picked on from Week 1 this year with questionable effort at times and comments placing blame on his coaches. Glad to see him gone next year too.

  21. 21 ACViking said at 3:19 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Re: Take Aways

    1. Vinny Curry’s reminding me more and more of a guy who starred at U-Miami in the early ’90s named Rusty Medaris — a great college pass rusher, but a guy who lacked explosion off the edge. I love VC’s hustle and intensity. But I’m, so far, I’m not seeing a player who’ll regularly be a 9-12 sack guy who bends the edge and draws double teams. That could change, as it did for Trent Cole. Hope it does.

    2. Nick Foles is not Tom Brady — a 13-year veteran who was nothing but a slow footed game manager his first 3 years as the Pat’s starter. Brady’s still slow as heck; but he’s built up his body, he’s constantly working to maintain his now-excellent mechanics, he’s a film rat, and he loves practice.

    My point is, sometimes I think our expectations of Foles may not be proportionate to his experience. But the kid has a real nice presence, he seems pretty smart, he loves playing the game (by all accounts), and he’s a film rat. Not saying he’ll turn into Brady 13.0. But he’s doing a nice job so far for a rookie on a bad team.

    3. Watching Nnamdi now makes me think of former Eagles CB Elbert Foules. That’s not good.

  22. 22 Anders said at 3:33 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Your point about Foles is spot on. If the report from the game against the Bucs is true, Foles had learned the entire Eagles playbook in a very short time (Also picking your own play in a go to situation and combining two plays because it fits the coverage better just show how smart this kid is)

  23. 23 A_T_G said at 7:39 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    There was a story leading up to this week that he was handed the practice script, looked over the plays, handed it back, then went and did it.

  24. 24 Kevin_aka_RC said at 3:41 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Rushers who are “physical” take more time to develop than those who are speed-guys. It takes athletic ability, not skill and practice, to win off the speed rush than winning with your hands/leverage. Aaron Kampman IMO is the closest comparison to Curry (one inch difference in height, same weight). You hope that Curry becomes a top-end run defender who can also make some good plays in pass defense. That said, Curry projects better to LDE than RDE.

    RDE is IMO the #1 priority to us in the off-season.

  25. 25 Kevin_aka_RC said at 3:27 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Great review Tommy!

    That brought a smile to my day, which is needed after this Patterson/Eagles ugliness.

  26. 26 ACViking said at 3:36 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Re: Trent Cole

    “Let’s face it, Tom, and all due respect . . . [Trent]’s slippin’. T[wo] years ago could [a tight end] have gotten to him?”

  27. 27 Cal Setar said at 5:11 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    With the fact that we keep seeing Graham fall off in the second half of games, and Trent’s slow slide into ineffectiveness, I’m starting to wonder if there’s not a conditioning issue at play here with the d-line. I don’t mean that they’re all out of shape of course. But physical preparation and training for the season is so scheme specific at this point, maybe Trent and the guys focused their offseason regimen on whatever would help translate best to playing in the wide-9 with it’s go all out for a few snaps and then constantly rotate. Sprints over a marathon kind of thing.

    Just a theory.

  28. 28 TommyLawlor said at 5:15 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    More Godfather talk? Okay by me.

    AR – the Don
    Howie – Michael
    Spags – Sonny?
    Washburn – Tessio
    Marty – Clemenza

  29. 29 ACViking said at 5:48 PM on December 12th, 2012:



  30. 30 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 3:38 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    That D-Line review is freakin’ depressing, Tommy.
    So much for the “throwing fastballs” approach – more like throwing meatballs out there (except for our penetrating Cox, of course).

  31. 31 ACViking said at 4:03 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Re: Mike Patterson’s Season is Over

    The Eagles are saving a whopping $123,529 by moving Patterson to the non-football-injury IR, instead of the IR for players with football-related injuries.

    That’s the kind of nickle-and-dime move that made players really, really dislike the Eagles front office — i.e., Joe Banner.

    Question: Is this Howie Roseman showing he’s “financially tough” like his mentor was? If so, he’s really missing the forest from the trees. He needed to be tough in the off-season when extensions were being handed out.

    On the other hand, maybe it’s a move to show the distance now between Reid and management.

    Anyway, not a very classy move by the Eagles.

  32. 32 TommyLawlor said at 5:15 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Not good. Team is now working with the agents to solve this.

  33. 33 T_S_O_P said at 4:18 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    With regards the running game going to the outside; this is an indictment of a gameplay that features only one back regardless of what is available on the bench. Just on that one screen play and even on his run for lost yardage, it was worth seeing if the Buccs would have more trouble stopping Lewis than Brown.

  34. 34 shah8 said at 4:38 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    No, no they would not.

  35. 35 TommyLawlor said at 8:05 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I’d have given him a try, but likely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

  36. 36 pkeagle said at 5:48 PM on December 12th, 2012:


    As a follow up to the previous post, what do you think of Tom Clements the Packers OC?
    I have no idea if he would be interested in a HC position but his work with Rodgers as his QB coach reminds me of our current guy don’t you think?

  37. 37 TommyLawlor said at 8:04 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Don’t think Tom is ready to be HC. Good guy, but making him the HC is huge step. Interesting trivia…was the QB at Notre Dame prior to some dude named Joe Montana.

  38. 38 pkeagle said at 8:32 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    That was my initial thought as well but the same was probably said about Reid too and that turned out to be a good hire. Could lightning strike twice?

    I’m gonna take all the credit if it happens and you and Jimmy will have to give me a shout out on the podcast (or alternatively I’ll accept a failed LB quilt from your own hands!)

  39. 39 the guy said at 5:56 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    A worry about Foles is that while he looked good, as you said he seemed to have spent the entire game in shotgun. Given his college experience, I’d expect him to look better in that formation due to his comfort level.


  40. 40 TommyLawlor said at 8:03 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    That is his comfort zone. He’ll get more accustomed to playing under the Center in the upcoming offseason.

  41. 41 shah8 said at 9:00 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Watch some of Chad Henne. Dude NEVER got better under center. Wierdest thing I ever saw–he’d get the shotgun, and *then drop back some more*, like a shorty. And then take 20 yard sacks! Had some high yardage totals, but much of it was pretty junk–gotta be able to take snaps under center in this game, especially if you hope to have a serious running game.

  42. 42 GermanEagle said at 6:28 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    After reading about that Patterson mess up by Howie I am seriously considering pulling the Eagles D in my fantasy football semi finale! The downside is though: I’ve got the Raiders as my backup D…

  43. 43 TommyLawlor said at 8:03 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Stick with the Eagles.

  44. 44 aub32 said at 11:04 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    I’m not hating on the kid, but can someone please explain to me why he’s getting so much praise for choosing the last play if Avant is saying that the play favored the defense. If he saw a weakness in the defense or recalled a similar scenario in film study of how the Bucs lined up then I would praise him as well. It seems like he just chose a play he was comfortable with, and Maclin did well on the execution.

  45. 45 ohitsdom said at 9:59 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    He wanted to be on the move so he could have a better throwing lane since the O line was collapsing so easily. Also, I think you’re forgetting someone on the execution side. Maclin certainly did his part, but he didn’t throw the perfect pass to himself.

  46. 46 shadrach said at 11:20 PM on December 12th, 2012:

    Tommy, can you illuminate us on what i saw referred to as the “shotgun stretch” play – the delayed, slow handoff to Brown that I keep seeing over and over. It looks like Foles and Brown are huddling up after the snap for a second or two before Brown takes the ball. Brown has to then run with the ball from a standstill after the d-line have time to get in his face.

    Tampa seemed to do the opposite. Muscle Hamster looked like he was running close to full speed before he got the ball.
    What is the advantage of making Brown stand there and wait for the ball?

  47. 47 Ark87 said at 7:51 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    I’ve decided that the Bucs made a critical mistake by shutting down Bryce Brown. If you make us abandon the run, how is Bryce going to fumble the game away, dummies!?

    I’m wondering how much the Bucs’ game plan focused on Bryce Brown. I’d like to see both Foles and Brown have solid performances tonight. These games where one is quiet and the other is amazing is suspect. It smells like teams are picking a threat and selling out.

  48. 48 Mike Flick said at 8:29 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    It is interesting looking at the active roster.

    There are 16 guys that are rookie1st year guys.

    There are 16 guys that are 2nd or 3rd year guys.

    It looks like a combination of crappy 10-11 drafts and a good 12 draft.

    Which 2nd or 3rd year players that we have are guys you think about building your team around? Our safeties? Brandon Graham or Phillip Hunt? Cooper? Mr Fireman? Role players sure, but nothing you have as building blocks for a team, except our kicker build your Special teams around him.

    Looking at the 1st year guys:
    Build the offense around Foles + Brown
    Defensive line around Cox, Curry with Thornton a solid role player
    Build our LBs around Kendricks

    Strange that we could take 1 draft and pick up more than twice the quality of the previous two combined with essentially the same front office.

  49. 49 ohitsdom said at 10:02 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    Good point, although building your linebackers around Kendricks is a bit of a stretch. He’s good, but I don’t think he’ll ever be the star of that group. Ryans has been great and should have a couple good years left. He’s also a great leader and could mentor his successor.

  50. 50 Mac said at 11:08 AM on December 13th, 2012:

    Tommy I’m disappointed in your recounting of our run game. It should have read something like this:

    St. Nick, our athletic freak of a quarterback, dazzled the audience with an astonishing amount of rushing yards. In addition to his record breaking 381 yards passing he produced 4.5 times the amount of rushing yards future HOF RB Bryce Jackson in Tampa including a touchdown run. Every coach in the league is kicking himself today wishing he had drafted a QB who is an effective passer and can average 9 yards per carry.