DeSean Day

Posted: June 5th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 80 Comments »

DeSean Jackson is coming off a couple of lackluster seasons. 2011 was largely affected by his obsession with a new deal (actually the lack of a new deal). His numbers in 2012 were actually hurt by the erratic play of Mike Vick. No matter how you slice it, Jackson wasn’t producing as hoped.

What can we expect in 2013? That is a big question, for DJax and the Eagles. At his best, Jackson can be an impact player. He has game-changing speed. The problem is that the guy we saw from 2008-2010 just hasn’t been around enough in the last 2 years. Instead of progressing, he flat-lined. I do think part of that was scheme. The coaches fell in love with deep routes and sent Jackson streaking down the field a lot.

Chip Kelly has high hopes for Jackson. That said, Jackson isn’t going to be given anything. Like everyone else on the roster, he must play well and earn his starting role. Recently Jackson found himself running with the 2nd and even 3rd team. This could have been a message from Kelly. More likely it was the doing of WRs coach Bob Bicknell. Whether Bicknell meant it as a message or was simply rewarding other players or experimenting with combinations is irrelevant. The move got Jackson’s attention.

He went and met with Kelly to discuss the situation. Tim McManus broke the story and got some good details from Jackson.

“I think one of the biggest reasons was the offense was kind of new to myself and I never really had to learn every position in the offense [under Andy Reid],” said Jackson. “At the beginning of the process I didn’t know the full offense and I didn’t know every play, so that probably had to do with why I was moved to different teams and things like that. Now I am all-in on the offense and I’m very familiar with the whole system. It’s a good thing that I am able to learn that and know what everyone is doing instead of one person.”

The 26-year-old admits that it’s been an adjustment going from Reid to Kelly.  Jackson, a six-year veteran, said he is being asked to do certain things that he hasn’t done since college. From all the sports science to the radical tempo change, there is a new-wave approach that can take some getting used to.

If Jackson will truly embrace Kelly and the new offense, the results can be great. The offense was in a rut in previous years, which was partly tied to sending Jackson deep over and over. Kelly is going to be different. He wants quicker passes, with some deep throws mixed in. Jackson has the potential to thrive, but he must fully buy-in.

I do think it is a good sign that Jackson went and met with Kelly. He could have sulked. He could have complained to the media. Instead he took the right approach and dealt with the issue. Kelly isn’t going to coddle players, but I don’t get the feeling he’s going to be a Parcells type that plays mind games either. Chip says here is what is expected of you. Do this and you’ll be fine. DJax now knows what is expected of him and seems to be meeting the expectations.

DeSean has so much more potential than what we’ve seen in the last couple of years. It would be great to see him find a role that allows him to be a playmaker and not just a threat. As good as Jackson is, he has scored a total of 6 TDs in the last 2 seasons. In the previous 2 years, Jackson scored 20 TDs, as a runner, receiver and returner. We need that player to re-emerge.

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Reuben Frank has a story on Jackson that is a bit less fun to read. Jackson recently parted ways with agent Drew Rosenhaus. Now Rosenhaus is seeking more than $400,000 from Jackson. This is money that Rosenhaus loaned to Jackson.

Jackson has to deal with this and find a new agent. Hopefully these off-field issues won’t affect his play.

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Tim McManus wrote a very good article on Kenny Phillips and the situation with his knee.  You can see from this piece just how difficult it is to deal with the situation.

Phillips is trying to be cautious so that he doesn’t hurt the knee. There is no injury or setback. He’s trying to prevent that from happening by resting at times.

The Eagles are being patient with Phillips, but also have to be bothered a bit. If you can’t count on the guy, how do you fit him in?

Oddly, the offseason is the worst. There are regular practices and workouts. During the season, things are more limited due to the grind of playing in full games. It is possible that if Phillips could get through the grind of the summer, he could be okay for the season.

Keep your fingers crossed, but don’t count on anything.

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Here’s an interesting note from Jimmy Bama:

• One thing I forgot to note yesterday during my post-practice recap was Antonio Dixon, who I had a chance to speak with yesterday. In previous recaps I had noted that Dixon looks far better than he did last year. Dixon said he currently weighs 326, and wants to be down to 322 by the start of training camp. He said that at this time last year, he was right around 350.

Dixon looks worlds better than the last 2 summers. I definitely can’t wait to see him with the pads on.


80 Comments on “DeSean Day”

  1. 1 ACViking said at 1:59 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Re: DeSean to the Corner


    You suggest that D-Jax’s run w/ the 2nds and 3rds was likely the decision of Receiver Coach Bob Bicknell — because D-Jax isn’t learning his lessons, i.e., the role on every play of every receiver. ( I think recent comments of Chip Kelly regarding the “depth chart scandal” supports you on Bicknell.)

    Question: If Bicknell is running D-Jax w/ the back-ups because he’s not up to speed on the playbook, do you think it’s fair to infer that Iffy Momah is very up to speed on the receivers’ roles on every play and thus running some with the 1’s?

    Also, is Cedric Thornton being sent a message? I know you wrote that you don’t think so . . . but after reading about D-Jax, I thought CT’s disappearance may be a fair topic to revisit.

    Over at Jimmy ‘Bama’s place, he traced out a doubles/doubles spread formation with a SE and FL on each side and a single back set off and back from the QB at pistol(?) distance. J’B wrote that we should expect to see lots of that formation this season.

    Do you have any thoughts on what Chipper’s theory is with this formation. Is it as simple as “if the defense puts little guys out there, we run; and if big guys are out there we pass”?

  2. 2 poetx99 said at 2:11 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    i don’t know chip’s theory, obviously, but it’s a formation that makes a lot of sense in a ‘pick your poison’ offense, because it is symmetric.

    desean and maclin are both elusive guys who can do well with a bubble screen as well as require help deep. if you line both of these guys up on opposite sides of the field and pair them with flexed out TEs (or a larger WR), NOW, a defense has to aggressively defend both flats. they HAVE to roll a safety to djax’ side in case we go deep. they HAVE to walk out an LB or S (or Nickel) to be with the TE/WRs flexed out. and those defenders HAVE to be able to tackle well on the bubble screens AND have the ability to cover deep. more importantly, celek and casey/ertz are also good receivers and can run most of the route tree credibly.

    so if you think you put a good tackler out there to crowd the line and stop the short stuff, they better be able to check an above avg receiving TE in man coverage.

    oh. and as we do all that, you’ve taken 4 people out of the box. that means there are a maximum of 7 defenders in the box. the read option (or option threat) / play design removes one of those defenders. so now you have shady with his choice of holes along the entire LoS, and, at worst, one man to beat. generally, though, because of the zone scheme, that one man will be backside pursuit.

    THAT is what that formation does. on any given play you can go deep to either of your downfield threats. you can hit the big receiver/TE on a quick slant (middle is vacated b/c of the 4-wide). you can bubble to either side based upon alignment (no ‘tells’ in formation, plus we have option routes). and you can run to anywhere, between the tackles or outside.

    try designing a defense against THAT, and this is before we get into the pace of the no huddle.

  3. 3 ACViking said at 2:19 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Very nice breakdown.

    Training camp will tell the tale. If we’re not reading about lots of +5 runs and +20 completions, then I’ll be very disappointed.

    As an aside, if you go back and watch highlights of the “House of Pain” game, you’ll see the Oilers using a comparable formation.

  4. 4 poetx99 said at 3:13 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    thanks. i really think this team will avg 5.5 – 6+ ypc in the running game. especially if vick is QB. with the zone blocking and stretch/boot combo, ATL did that. but the thing is, they did that against stacked boxes and with NO credible passing game, and no receiver outside of crumpler.

    a similar commitment to running, PLUS the zone concept (lateral movement to spread out defenders allowing back to read the hole and make defense pay for overpursuit), PLUS the deep threats PLUS the bubble screens and short game, PLUS the high tempo are really going to give defenses fits.

    the higher yards per carry, if done right, should also result in higher yards per completion, as you point out. the spacing and concepts should force a lot of man coverage, or zones with gaping holes.

  5. 5 Mac said at 2:41 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I think you got me a little bit too excited. I may or may not have extra laundry to do.

  6. 6 Anders said at 2:48 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    If we go to that formation, I dont see how they can have 7 in the box as you would need 2 deep safeties or you are 1v1 in one side with a fast WR like Jackson or Maclin (hell even Momah when those long legs begin to run)

  7. 7 poetx99 said at 3:04 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    you’re right. in that formation you would force single high safety (man-free) which you could damn near bet would be at least shaded to djax’ side. so if you walk out one safety and one LB, that leaves a max of 6 in the box.

    i was typing too fast.

    so that’s 6 in the box, one S deep. optioning the backside DE, gives you 5 on 5 blocking at point of attack. and we’ll be patient enough to take 5, 6, 7 yards a pop. NOW the defense flirts with dropping that high safety down into the box. play action. and that’s a 9 to desean or a skinny 8 to maclin.

    one of the things i picked up from sheil’s accounts of practice is that they also throw the bubble to the TEs. that means that maclin or desean or damaris can look like they are blocking and slide up into a seam route.

    deep middle is gonna be WIDE open because i can’t see LBs getting deep pass drops when they are worrying about stopping inside and outside zone and flowing to either sideline on bubbles or bounced runs.

    it will be fun to watch.

  8. 8 PK_NZ said at 11:27 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I get the feeling anybody playing man D is going to struggle against this offence, zone with plenty of hidden responsibilities on the other hand might do well… especially if Vick is the QB…

  9. 9 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:24 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    love the write up.
    my only concern is that all of this might make the O a little predictable.
    saying “the offense takes what the defense gives” is similar to saying “the defense dictates what the offense will do” which in the hands of the right defensive mind puts the defense in control.

    a (theoretical) example:
    put 2 Defenders out wide on one side, and 1 on the other side. that leaves 8 men in the box.
    seeing one side of the field with less defenders would (in my mind) spell a quick throw to that side of the field.
    What if the DC plans for this? if they line up this way, they know in advance where the ball is going to go. all it takes is one or more of those 8 men in the box to slide over into the passing lanes, maybe?

    i dunno. maybe i’m just talking out my ass. lol

  10. 10 Neil said at 4:32 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Basically what the scheme is built around is the idea that if you throw or run away from where the defense is most fortified in their presnap alignment, they can’t get to the weak spots fast enough after the ball is snapped. The best counter for the defense that works against this is presnap disguise, but the offensive system counters THAT by being a rapid no huddle. It doesn’t matter if a defender lined up in one place initially to trick the offense if he doesn’t have time to move into his real spot before the ball is snapped. A DC can’t plan for this except by having talented and disciplined players. And that kind of defense will be able to beat any offense more often than not.

  11. 11 GEagle said at 5:01 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Good stuff Neil. IMO to beat that offense, you need Discaplined, high caliber players who are so good that they can just win the majority of the individual battles playing out of Vanilla Schemes..But if the offensive and defensive players are closly matched in IQ,Talent,Execution, I think that type of offense is tough to slow down
    Because of the high tempo, there will be times that just playing a basic defense is better than trying to audible into the RIGHT defense, because as you pointed out, with little to no time before the ball is snapped, if the offense catches the defense mid audible/adjustment they can get burnt for a big play.

  12. 12 poetx99 said at 5:22 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    yep. but this also puts pressure on your DL to win 1×1 on damn near every down. or stunt. and if you stunt against a zone blocking team running a read/option, you MAY get a TFL, but more likely, you’ll turn a 4yd run into a 18yd run. assuming health and that LJ is as advertised, you also have 4 to 5 above average man blockers. and if vick is at qb, you are also having larger than normal cutback lanes as likely the backside DE and LB are staying home.

    as a DC i would play bend but don’t break against this and hope that the eagles continue to suck in short yardage. in addition to the eagles, that was also the falcons’ shortcoming while gibbs was there. their OL overachieved and they got explosive run plays between the 20s, but they couldn’t consistently knock anyone back off the ball in the red zone and therefore didn’t score as many points as their run dominance suggested they should.

    again, we’ve seen that over the years with the eagles. on the present eagles, kelce is the only one i worry about as a drive blocker. if herremans kicks in i’m more than comfortable running over RG in the RZ or short yardage. but if peters is healthy, running behind him and mathis should be automatic.

  13. 13 poetx99 said at 5:14 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    that was actually part of the problem w/ andy and marty. the key to stopping the defense from dictating is balance and patience. teams would assign extra defenders to stop the over the top stuff (remember the lolskins playing their safeties 30 yds downfield?), or send secondary pressure off of short corners to kill our deep passing or PA game. the answer to that should have been shady up the middle, but andy and marty thought we lost style points by running on consecutive downs. (unless we were down by 3 TDs and then somehow that was the desired plan of attack).

    but the thing is, if we go 4-wide (doubles), single back, gun. that leaves 7 in the box. one is optioned, so that’s 6 defenders, 5 blockers. shady makes at least one guy miss on damn near every play. worst case, that’s at least 4 yds a pop which is enough to move chains. unless teams had four darelle revises, i don’t see them giving us consistent cover zero against 4 wide. they can’t win that.

    with doubles, as tommy points out, we can get free releases for djax and mac on every play, AND the big receiver (flexed TE or Benn/Cooper/Momah) has enough speed to beat a safety or LB deep, and enough route running to easily beat a defender to an open spot in man or some kind of combo-zone.

    they can’t have less DBs than we have receivers. that’s easy check and pitch and catch. and now that there are option routes (can’t believe we didn’t have them before), if they play off 10 yds, we can bubble or hitch all day, and take 5 yards a pop that way.

  14. 14 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:57 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    all of that makes perfect sense.
    what i’m thinking is this…
    if i’m a DC, i’m going to align my D to show what appears to be a weakness, knowing full well what that weakness is and that the offense is going to try to exploit it. that lets me design around the fact that i know what the O is going to do. the DC only has to make it look like it is a weakness.

    yea, being a little more flexible on O will probably solve the problem. i’m just afraid that we will fall into the trap of last year’s D where the opposing offense knew what our D was going to do on every play (all DL are playing the pass) and can then plan around it accordingly.

    again, i love the idea of going for yards before points (move the chains rather than go for 70 yard td passes every down), but i’m hoping (and i’m assuming) that Chip has already designed ways to make the O less predictable than that.

    side note: once again, i love the community at this place. such a great place for great football talk. thanks guys.

  15. 15 GEagle said at 7:25 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    A good OC/HC play caller has to be able to snif out if he is being baited into something, and ignore it. IN CHIP WE TRUST!

  16. 16 PK_NZ said at 12:22 AM on June 6th, 2013:

    That’s why Kelly wants to run the fast pace offence, to prevent DC’s getting in complex coverages to do what you said about showing and countering a weakness… Makes perfect sense in theory, remains to be seen how it translates on the field…

  17. 17 Ark87 said at 8:52 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Exactly what I think when I hear the concept come up. Typically a defense will set up a trap with a pre-snap disguise, a tempting target that will be atleast a first down, and dare you to take a shot. When in actuality the only thing they are truly going to give you is the dink and dunk pass.

    In retrospect I’m actually amazed at how dominant our offense was in 2010. In 2010 we would gain the lead with passing…when everyone knew we would be passing….and then close games out with Shady…busting huge runs when everyone knew we would be running to burn clock. It reminds me of of JoePa in his glory days. He might as well have told the opposing defenses what he was going to do. He was more about doing what his team did well, superior execution and daring the other guys to stop you.

    I guess what I’m saying is, it’s not as simple as people make it sound, like you alluded to. At the end of the day it’s more important to establish an identity that you can fall back on when gimmicks fail to give you an edge.

  18. 18 TheRogerPodacter said at 9:43 AM on June 6th, 2013:

    once again, thanks for the great discussion on this, guys!

  19. 19 GEagle said at 12:48 PM on June 6th, 2013:

    Yeah man…I seriously dont think you can find a football discussion of this caliber, on any other site. Good stuff men!

  20. 20 shah8 said at 5:07 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Oh, so we’re gunna be going *updated* run ‘n shoot!

  21. 21 poetx99 said at 7:15 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    run run n’ shoot.

  22. 22 Neil said at 2:12 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    The fact that on Momah’s day off after the rookie camps he was out signaling plays with the coaches seems like evidence Momah is at least enthusiastic about learning the offense. Could be a situation where they want to send a message to the team that that kind of dedicated approach will be rewarded, or it could be that Momah just knows the offense better.

  23. 23 micksick said at 2:38 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    no its not fair to say momah is up to speed on everything based on desean playing with the 2nds and 3rds a few times, LOL

  24. 24 ACViking said at 3:06 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    What’s your assertion based on? LOL?

    According to Jackson’s own recounting of his meeting with Kelly, D-Jax was pushed down because he did NOT know the roles of the all the receivers. That’s Jackson talking. And he admitted not knowing all the receivers’ roles.

    Momah is getting some time with the 1’s. According to Jackson’s understanding of why Chip sent him the 2/3 message, it would seem that to run with the 1’s, Kelly (and Bicknell) want their receivers — and that includes Momoh — to know all the receivers’ responsibilities. That’s a requirement, in fact, per D-Jax.

    You’re essentially arguing that Kelly’s willing to waste very valuable practice time playing an unprepared Momah. That’s not the least bit consistent with what Kelly’s said. Or what Jackson said.

    So maybe you could layout your reasoning for the LOL.

  25. 25 GEagle said at 4:14 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    All this Momah talk….anyone hear how Benn looks out there moving around on those rebuilt knee’s? That Kid has the potential to be a huge addition to this team. I also havent heard anything about Sunshine Cooper, but he better make some noise in this years camp

  26. 26 Anders said at 4:36 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    You wont hear about guys like Cooper and Benn when the WRs cant block and there is no press coverage.

  27. 27 GEagle said at 4:49 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    More concerned with Benns level of speed, how fluid he is getting in and out of his breaks, cutting. I know the players that depend on Physicality cant really show their worth til TC, but because his knees have been an issue, Im desperate to know how he looks moving around. Literally, all I heard about him all offseason was that he made a nice deep catch, and that he looks “really well put together”…Because we have been getting negative Intel about how Phillips(who came with similar concerns as Benn), The optimist in me would like to think he looks fine, since nothing has been reported and he plays a position where its pretty obvious if you arent healthy.

  28. 28 Anders said at 4:58 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Phillips got much worse knees than Benn and I suppose no news is good news as I havnt seen a single report about him missing time.

  29. 29 GEagle said at 5:09 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Same. No reports of him missing time, or looking bad. So Im taking the No news is good news aproach as well(fingers crossed of course).

    I was expecting Big Things out of DeShizzle, I really hope all his outside crap isnt a distraction. He seems to like his contract and like being an Eagle, I hope he is smart enough to realize that his leash is probably No where near as long as it was under BigRed..If he wants to see that top 10 WR money he is due next year, he better check his BS at the door and produce both on the field and in the locker room

  30. 30 RC5000 said at 7:13 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    There was a shot or maybe two of him during yesterday’s practice. #17. I’m sure you can find it on the Eagles website, he looked good but it was a drill.

  31. 31 GEagle said at 7:21 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    thanks man, heading over to take a peak

  32. 32 RC5000 said at 7:27 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    They just interviewed Benn at Union Soccer game pre game. Sorry but it was quick and over, sounded good. Lane Johnson walked over at end of interview

  33. 33 GEagle said at 7:30 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    thanks again, Im sure It will get posted soon. Do you happen to know if it was a CSN interview? Loved how hungry, and honest about his career he sounded when he arrived here.

  34. 34 RC5000 said at 7:49 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Yes it was on CSN, just a quick whatever interview. Doubt you’ll see it anywhere from an MLS Soccer game pre game show.

  35. 35 poetx99 said at 5:24 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    i’ve heard that benn looks pretty good. and that he gets work with the 1s also (not necessarily consistently, but enough for the reporters to take notice). he’s supposedly getting open and catching. so that’s a very good thing.

  36. 36 GEagle said at 6:26 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    thanks man…great to hear. Very excited about his potential

  37. 37 micksick said at 5:39 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    momah is playing with the 1s and 2s because everyone is being switched around to the 1s and 2s and 3s, not because momah has everything down more the desean. LOL

  38. 38 TommyLawlor said at 3:00 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    poetx99 did an excellent job.

    Simply put, it combines the spread with bunch sets. You spread the defense out horizontally, but can still be creative with receivers and their releases. They can’t be pressed when bunched like that. Helps with screens, but also when the receiver wants to explode upfield.

    Andy Reid loved using bunch sets. That was one of his strengths.

  39. 39 poetx99 said at 4:04 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    thanks. the thing i hated w/ andy’s offense (and i’ve said it a jillion times before) is that the use of the ‘tight bunch’ invited secondary pressure, which is precisely what teams, starting w/ leslie frazier, did to neutralize vick’s mobility.

    it may have been you, but someone mentioned seeing in practice that out of twins, they actually sent the flexed TE on a wheel route. that’s crazy. you’ll have to account for a multiplicity of routes out of that alignment and can’t just key and say ‘oh, short slot, watch the shallow cross’.

  40. 40 TommyLawlor said at 3:04 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    RE: Thornton

    He hasn’t been on the field much today. Sounds like he may be nursing an injury. Everything I’ve heard is that the Eagles are high on him.

    RE: Momah

    Hard to read this. Could be that he’s a player Kelly has very high hopes for and is trying to mix in aggressively. Could be that he has done great work in the classroom meetings. Or could be random. We don’t know how many snaps Cooper or Benn are getting with the 1’s. Momah sticks out like a sore thumb. He’s an attention-grabber.

  41. 41 ACViking said at 3:12 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Thanks, T-Law.

  42. 42 GEagle said at 4:08 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Thanks, been wondering why Thorton was on Last nights episode of “Without a Trace”

  43. 43 joe said at 2:31 PM on June 5th, 2013:


    Sorry if this has been asked or if it’s personal, but why don’t you move to the Philly area? I think we can all agree we’d rather be getting scouting reports from you over Kempski or the other bloggers.

  44. 44 robspassky said at 2:53 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Not that Tommy wouldn’t do a great job, but I don’t have any problems with Sheil or Jimmy’s reports. They do a fine job.

    Anyway, the best TC reports I ever read were by some other guy on TATE. Wow, what was his name again? “PhillyPhreak54,” I think? Unfortunately he stopped after just a few years. I’d support a Kickstarter to give that guy a ticket to Philly for Training Camp, but I have no idea who or where he is.

  45. 45 TommyLawlor said at 3:05 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    PP54 is a guy named Jay. Great guy. Unfortunately, last I heard he had moved to Texas. And yes…he was the master of TC reports. Epic work.

  46. 46 Iskar36 said at 3:30 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Oh, I should have read this before posting. Same exact feelings.

  47. 47 joe said at 3:58 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I agree that Sheil and Jimmy are doing a fine job reporting things as they see them. That isn’t really Tommy’s thing though, IMO. I meant that Tommy is relying on what other people see to make assessments, and I would love to see Tommy do what he currently does (1 or 2 nice detailed posts a day) only with the added bonus of actually being able to see practice with his own eyes.

  48. 48 GEagle said at 4:11 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I think Sheil and McManus are two of the best that this city has to offer. But in terms of TC coverage, I dont think anyone Brings it Like Kempski..that man gets me through my workday during the dog days of summer

  49. 49 TommyLawlor said at 3:05 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I’ll cover this in a post in case others wonder the same thing.

  50. 50 Iskar36 said at 3:30 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I’d love to have Tommy at practices and giving us scouting reports, but I wouldn’t diminish Kempski’s contributions to what has been happening at practices. He and Kapadia have done outstanding jobs providing details of what is going on at practices. As much as I love Tommy’s work, Tommy would be an additional pair of eyes with additional insight, not a replacement or for either.

  51. 51 poetx99 said at 4:09 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    this. i’m a huge fan of what tommy does. let’s not diminish the other guys in our efforts to big him up, however. especially guys who are actually providing valuable coverage and insight.

    -resists urge to bash the rest of philly sports media –

  52. 52 Ark87 said at 8:32 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I’m with Iskar, Kempski and Kapadia are awesome. But I agree with the sentiment that it would be nice to get Tommy to check out the TC practices (when the pads go one).

    To that extent I wonder if we could raise a fund to get him up in philly for a few days to check out some practices.


  53. 53 micksick said at 2:37 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Love desean, i think its a good thing he is learning all the positions, and i also thinks its good he went to chip to talk. you can tell when he talks he is getting more mature. I think desean has gotten a bad rap, most fans just focus on how he talks on twitter and how he dresses and takes pics on instagram, but he has his priorities straight.

  54. 54 TommyLawlor said at 3:08 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I think DeSean makes some of us a bit nervous because he seems as interested by being a star as by being a star WR. You can’t do both. Football is something you have to give your life to for the 5 to 10 years you’re in it.

    If DeSean ever maximizes his talent, I think he can get back to being a star WR and impact player. I think the change to Kelly will be good for him. I certainly hope so.

  55. 55 Mac said at 3:11 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I just hope he gets his act together while in an Eagles uniform. Cunningham is (in my mind) one of the greatest football oriented athletes of all time, moderately limited by his desire to be Arsenio Hall, and playing for a coach who sometimes forgot that offense exists.

  56. 56 micksick said at 5:45 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    i mean interested in being a star? i mean whats he really doing tho? He isnt in movies, or tv shows. he basiclly just funds a rap label. he doesnt even rap that much, as for the doc thats something that been filming for his entire life and really its all his brother doing that stuff, its not like he has a reality show on the E! channel, or dating someone who does (or did (hank basskett))

    I think chip, being a master at space and manipulating space on the field, will be able to maximize not only desean value but lesean. I cant wait.

  57. 57 TommyLawlor said at 7:17 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Running the rap label isn’t as casual as what you make it sound, from what I understand. I’m not saying he’s doing that 24/7, but that can be a distraction.

    DeSean has been involved in several causes and he’s been on TV shows. I love the fact he’s trying to do some good things, but again…is it a distraction from football?

    If DeSean was playing at a very high level, I wouldn’t complain for a second. That hasn’t been the case. I think he’s been an underachiever. If he asked me, I’d tell him to put aside the distractions and focus on football for a few years.

  58. 58 Ark87 said at 8:26 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    ” I think desean has gotten a bad rap”

    Mostly because he produces bad rap, bazinga!

  59. 59 ACViking said at 3:19 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Re: Bunch Sets

    T-Law mentions in the comments below, regarding the doubles/doubles formation Jimmy ‘Bama wrote about, that Andy Reid also liked to use bunch sets.

    Joe Gibbs killed the Buddy Ryan Eagles in the 1990 playoff game with bunch sets.

    Also, the formation Jimmy ‘Bama sketched out is a variation of the classic double TE-single back formation loved so much — and brought to Philadelphia — by the greatest passing guru . . . Sid Gilman. (Gibbs comes from the Gilman tree.)

    Not only does putting doubles on both sides keep the formation balanced. But it stretches the field horizontally even more than just your basic double TE/WR formation would.

    So when the offense wants to stretch the defense vertically out of this doubles formation, the passing lanes are (should be) more pronounced because this doubles formation puts tremendous stress on the interior of the pass defense.

    In theory, this all sounds great.

  60. 60 ACViking said at 3:29 PM on June 5th, 2013:


    What do you think of the NFL returning to the wider hash-marks still used in college?

  61. 61 TommyLawlor said at 4:02 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I like things the way they are, for the simple reason that it makes CFB and the NFL different. I follow both games closely. I like there to be some quirky differences.

    That’s probably not the logical or technical answer you wanted, but it is honest. 🙂

  62. 62 ACViking said at 4:53 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    As Mrs. Stites said more than once, “Honesty is the best policy.”

  63. 63 Flyin said at 10:29 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I definitely don’t want to see untouched ball carriers downed by grass rather than player contact.

  64. 64 GEagle said at 4:05 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I really hope Desean battling over Half a Mil doesnt become a distraction

  65. 65 A_T_G said at 5:45 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Was DeSean Day a reference to Dre Day and DeSean’s aspirations?

  66. 66 GEagle said at 5:46 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I believe it was Sheil Kapadia who Chip hammered today during his session with reporters. Atleast Chip was curtious enough to package it under the guise of a joke.

  67. 67 Flyin said at 9:31 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Was that the psychological tests question? I figured he was referring to JimmyK (Tommy wasn’t present)?

  68. 68 GEagle said at 9:39 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    yes, Im pretty sure it was Sheil who asked about the Psych question…you can tell chip was annoyed, but was curtious enough to say what he said in a joking manner laughing it off..”we need to do pyschological tests on some of you guys with the microphone”-chippah
    I didnt hear Sheil ask him another question after that

  69. 69 Flyin said at 9:53 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Players may not be taking psychological “tests”, however, psychology is a science which I’m confident Chip observes, teaches and utilizes with all the players.

  70. 70 GEagle said at 8:01 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Yimmy lol provides a glimmer of hope “I took my first hard look at Kenny Phillips in action today. There weren’t many plays where he had to go into a full sprint, or deal with a LeSean McCoy juke, but I thought he looked reasonably agile. He will be a player I’ll continue to watch. But so far, at the very least, he’s not limping around out there like Marlin Jackson was a few training camps ago”-Kempski

  71. 71 Flyin said at 8:58 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    I love the fact that players have been rotating with the 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. This is a team game and the guys need to be comfortable playing with their teammates. You never know when someone will have to step in due to injury, illness or just the basic fact that this team is going to be going full throttle and guys will need a breather. The next man steps in and has the confidence since he has played along side the other guys and vise versa.

    To me, this is building team chemistry, not 3 teams.

  72. 72 poetx99 said at 9:08 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    good point. similar to the locker assignments.

  73. 73 Flyin said at 9:23 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Exactly, Chip is building a bond of unity. And leaving egos by the wayside.

  74. 74 Flyin said at 10:07 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Psychology lesson 101… Tommy posted this months ago, however, I get the sense this is a similiar version of Chip’s mindset and intensity… about how to defeat the opponent…

  75. 75 Flyin said at 10:34 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    Has any one listened to a player interview who wasn’t breathing heavy? Good sign! Guys are working!

  76. 76 GEagle said at 11:41 PM on June 5th, 2013:

    true that!

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