Player Updates

Posted: June 1st, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 32 Comments »

We’ve only had some OTAs so there just isn’t enough info to make hard evaluations, but I will throw out some misc thoughts on a few players.

* Russell Shepard – It is great to hear that he’s learning from Jason Avant. Shepard is a project. He needs to develop WR skills. Shepard is a player that Chip Kelly would love to have as part of the offense because of his talent and versatility, but he must have functional skills at a base position. That spot is WR. Unfortunately, Shepard doesn’t have the skills yet. He is an ideal practice squad candidate. Shepard is catching balls after practice. He’s working hard. I just don’t know that there is enough time this spring/summer for him to get where he needs to be to win a roster spot.

* Danny Watkins – He’s the LG. Then the backup LG. Yesterday he was the RG. I don’t think Chip is necessarily down on him so much as he’s curious. He wants to move Danny around and see how he reacts, as well as how he plays at the different spots. Watkins isn’t going to stand out until he gets a chance to run block. That’s when he’ll impress Chip and the coaches. Until then, it is a matter of knowing his assignments and showing good movement skills.

* Antonio Dixon/Bennie Logan – The pads aren’t on so there is virtually nothing to see with the DTs. Dixon already got an A+ though by showing up in good shape. That’s his way of telling the Eagles “I get it. I’m taking this seriously now.”  When in shape, he’s been a solid player. If he can be the backup NT, that frees Logan to play the 3-technique spot. And yesterday, Dixon was the backup NT with Logan as the backup 3-tech. Logan is more likely to handle the 3-tech spot well as a rookie. NT in the NFL is unlike anything the college kids have experienced. Better to do that when you’ve got some experience under your belt.

* Casey Matthews – I wish Casey had skipped a day of practice. That way he’d have gotten talked about and we’d know for a fact he was alive. Right now…I have no idea if he actually exists.

* Matt Barkley – One benefit of him being the workaholic QB and running the 3rd string offense is that he’s the smartest player out there. That means he is getting guys lined up correctly. He’s running the show. That will help when/if he gets reps with the starters. The vets can see how smart he is and his leadership skills.

* Ifeanyi Momah – I’m glad to hear that he’s getting reps with the 1’s. I don’t want to make him out to be something he isn’t, but playing with the starters should bring out the best in him. We need to see what that is. Can he contribute in 2013 or is he a developmental guy? We’re not looking for answers right now, but a few hints would be nice. Sounds like he’s making progress.

* Curtis Marsh – If Cary Williams absence has one good effect, it has to be giving a boost to Marsh’s confidence. Marsh is playing with the starters. We know Marsh had talent coming out of Utah State. Can we get that out of him at the NFL level? One thing that can help young guys is a confidence boost. Sometimes the hardest people to convince about a player’s talent are the players themselves. Marsh is out of developmental time. He must show he can contribute this year.

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Sheil Kapadia posted some good practice notes. Sadly, Sheil is now ineligible for the Pulitzer Prize. He made up a quote that he used in the notes. That’s actually forgivable, especially since he told us it was fake. The problem is that the quote wasn’t compelling enough. Fake quotes must be controversial.

Tim McManus wasn’t about to let Kapadia steal the spotlight so he talked to Fletcher Cox and Vinny Curry and wrote a good piece of his own. Or did he. Maybe he got the quotes from Sheil…


32 Comments on “Player Updates”

  1. 1 the guy said at 12:58 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    From Sheil’s writeup: “11:21 – Our first teach period. Garbage cans are set up as offensive linemen.”

    Looks like Trash Can impressed enough in film study to get some reps.

  2. 2 ICDogg said at 6:44 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    I hope our O-line plays better than Garbage.

  3. 3 James said at 1:28 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    Hopefully one or both of Dixon/Thornton can step up and be a solid starter. Cox-Sopo-Thornton to start and then Dixon filling in for Sop and Logan going in to replace Thornton from time to time. Curry is a mystery, hopefully they can utilize him. If he really did keep the same speed and jumped 20 pounds in muscle that is great news. Geathers is intriguing to me too. Would be great to have a D-Lineman really jump out to free up Cox and unleash his beastness.

  4. 4 GEagle said at 2:02 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    Whats really intruiging is all these players are so young. Most havent even grown into their grown man strength..About once a Month I remind myself that Cox is only 22 years old, and I quickly get all warm and fuzzy inside..
    Thorton yesterday said that he is weighing 310lbs and still trying to add more muscle…
    I feel like Azz needs to get something good out of either Gaethers or Dixon.
    One roster addition to keep an eye in the next year or two is Browns pass rusher Jaabal Sheard. Billy Davis has worked with him..8.5 sacks as a rookie, 7 sacks last year..New DC came in and brought Kruger and Mingo into the mix…there were rumors that Browns wanted to trade Sheard around the draft..since then they drafted Mingo so Sheard might very well be up for grabs.

  5. 5 D3FB said at 2:01 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Yeah the selection of Mingo really confused me considering they already had Sheard and Kruger. He must have been very much the BPA for a team that still has a decent amount of holes.

  6. 6 GEagle said at 7:11 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    It was Odd, but clearly a case of a new coach coming in and wanting “His” guys….Wonder if Sheard gets cut this summer

  7. 7 Warhound said at 11:08 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Guys that got cut become available and guys that failed to sign. Somewhere there is a 31 yr old DB who wanted 9m for 3yrs and will now sign a one yr deal for 3.5m; or somt’n like that.

  8. 8 Geagle said at 11:23 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Yeah but the cuts are About to happen now in June right?

  9. 9 Tumtum said at 11:26 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Florio put a post up about it. That apparently has gone the way of the birds due to teams in general having room under the cap and the CBA. Two player cut before June 1 can be given a post June 1 designation for all teams.

  10. 10 Geagle said at 6:27 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    thanks man

  11. 11 Alex Karklins said at 3:56 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    I think Curry makes more sense backing up Cox at the 3-tech, yet all the reports say he is mostly working as a 5-tech. 5-tech seems awfully crowded at this point (Thornton, Geathers, Curry, Logan, Kruger[?]). Which player is backing up Cox, then? Or, is he never going to leave the field?

  12. 12 Geagle said at 4:08 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    The Lord of Bones(azzinaro) will rotate players. Cox won’t always be in the field, but I doubt any lineman will get more snaps then that 22yr old Boy-Beast..but the back up 3tec is very important because we plan on using Cox as the moving Chess piece of our Line. he won’t always lineup as the 3technique, so his back up should get a lot of opportunities..

    I don’t worry about Curry as much as most fans. First and 2nd round talents, with high charcheter, passion, and true desire to be great will work hard for you. It’s obvious this kid has a true passion to help the Eagles win ball games..Give a kid like that the added fuel of not dressing for most of his rookie year, and I’m expecting a driven and dedicated player who will find a way to crack this rotation and make an he going to be a rotation guy who contributes or a future star..that remains to be seen…It’s awesome to see e Hunger in Curry and Graham. I trust those kids to figure it out as long as they can stay healthy

  13. 13 Tumtum said at 11:30 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Exactly. The world is his oyster. Curry will determine his own role.

  14. 14 Geagle said at 6:28 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Yes sir

  15. 15 Adam said at 1:38 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    5 tech is crowded yes but we don’t know if we have starting talent there yet.

  16. 16 Neil said at 5:31 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    I think Curry saying going up to 280 was an organic process is a big detail. If that’s more his body’s natural weight, the move to 3-4 end is the best fit for him, and I don’t have any doubts about the wisdom of the move like I did at first. Even if we weren’t switching the scheme, he wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense at RDE like we were playing him last season, and would probably have made the most sense as a 3 in the nickel and a LDE in the base defense.

  17. 17 Tumtum said at 1:36 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    I read a couple insinuations that Curry’s weight gain was natural growth and then you just out right said it. I missed the quote though. Linky? Would like to read the article

  18. 18 Neil said at 4:05 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    It’s in the piece by McManus Tommy linked above.

  19. 19 Geagle said at 6:31 PM on June 2nd, 2013: also has interviews that curry did with Spadaro where he talks about he wasn’t really trying to gain weight, just workin out hard and the muscle started packing on because he is growing into his body…don’t know how true hat is, but if it is true, that’s a damn good sign for us

  20. 20 micksick said at 6:22 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    Momah…. highlights…. vs……. northwestern…

  21. 21 Neil said at 6:43 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    He posted those within the last week. I’d search “igglesblitz momah” on youtube.

  22. 22 the midatlantic said at 8:46 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    Can’t blame mick for missing them, he was sick

  23. 23 micksick said at 9:54 PM on June 1st, 2013:

    tru!!! just watched it… meh.. lol

  24. 24 GEagle said at 7:10 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Jason Avant on Cary Williams missing OTA’s:
    “You wish they would come, but you don’t know their reason or their circumstance” …..
    “If you sit down with Cary, he’s definitely committed,” “Guys in the locker room know the guys that are committed to their craft, and Cary is definitely one of those guys.”-Avant

  25. 25 Kevin Cahill said at 11:32 AM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Hi Tommy,

    I’m a bit concerened about Chip Kelly’s reference to “science” all the time when questioned about his methods. Everyone seems to be taking this as a reasonable answer and not looking into the specifics of the evidence that his methods are based on.

    My main concern is that science when applied appropriately can produce excellent results such as the Wales Rugby squad at the 2011 RWC ( but if the evidence for his methods is based on poor evidence the effect could be detrimental to the team.

    Any thoughts on this?

  26. 26 HipDaDip said at 12:04 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    Totally agree. There is good and bad science done all the time, and when Chip says “it’s based on science” I think he sounds ridiculous. There’s “science” that suggests global warming doesn’t exist, and “science” that the eye couldn’t have evolved and must be intelligently designed. However, even if we knew what work his ideas were based on, in the end we will judge him on wins and losses, not on the justification for his methods (same as going for it on 4th and 3 at midfield in the first quarter, which is statistically justified would still only be judged by the outcome). My impression is that Chip’s vagueness comes from a desire for secrecy, and that he is smart enough and cares enough to make appropriate evaluations. We do this all the time in research… we have to trust that other scientists do their work properly, because we often don’t have access to enough information to judge for ourselves. My main concern would be that his assistants and trainers are thinking for themselves about the research behind what they’re doing, not just accepting it blindly like the media. Regardless, it seems to be having a placebo effect on the players, who think they are getting a leg up and are hyped for this season. If his “science” is only as effective as drinking pickle juice, is that really a bad thing?

  27. 27 Geagle said at 6:35 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    he is just saying that a lot of work has gone into researching our methods…there is a science behind it is just a way of saying “there is a method to my madness but I don’t have the time to get into it”…YES in some cases he does mean, actual science, like the rhythmic beats and the energy it provides…but eliminate the world science, and replace it with the world RESEARCH..same thing

  28. 28 A_T_G said at 12:49 PM on June 2nd, 2013:

    I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to putting leaches in the soaking tubs to remove excess fluids, but if he starts burning cheerleaders at the stake to find out if they are witches, I’m going to have to draw a line.

    Honestly, the stuff I have heard about seems pretty benign. Monitoring fluid levels, paying attention to what players eat, setting a schedule to match biorhythms, etc. don’t seem to have much risk associated. Are there more controversial practices at work?

  29. 29 Kevin said at 2:51 PM on June 3rd, 2013:

    The problem with “science” is definitely what you’re basing it on. There’s the whole issue of “publish or perish”. So a lot of “science” gets published based on shaky or biased studies where a conclusion can be somewhat forced.

    When the idea of plate tectonics was first published, despite solid evidence showing that the continents do “drift” and the surface of the Earth is constantly changing, the idea was virtually unanimously rejected by the geological community for DECADES because the idea just seemed too far-fetched to them or it conflicted with theories they had been throwing their support behind for years and, well, scientists (especially in the late 19th/early 20th century) had huge, huge egos.

    There was a study in the past decade or so on the harmful effects of MDMA that was published. The results were groundbreaking as they revealed that a single recreational dose of MDMA could cause Parkinson’s Disease later in life. Some time later the published study was retracted when it was discovered that the researchers had actually administered methamphetamine, not MDMA, in the study. Whoopsies!

  30. 30 Kevin Cahill said at 3:37 PM on June 3rd, 2013:

    The problem I have personally is that “science” is a buzzword and it means nothing without evidence. This is the area that I find most frustrating as I do not know the evidence that his techniques are based on. I’m now resigned to not knowing the specifics until 10 years from now!

    As people have pointed out so far Chip’s interventions seem pretty benign, the most important in my opinion, include the changes to nutrition and hydration.

    But this raises two questions the first being what was going on under the Andy Reid regime and the second what specifically has Chip Kelly introduced to improve on the previous regime? If the players have not had there individual diets organised by dieticians before the Chip Kelly era I will be shocked, and therefore this situation being remedied will have nothing but a positive effect on the players.

    I just hope that the organisation has done it’s due diligence on the methods that Chip has proposed and implemented i.e. had his methods pier reviewed as to the benefits and the risks and to make sure the benefits far outweigh the risks.

    Overall I find it invigorating to have a coach like Chip in control of the eagles and if he turns out to be half the innovator he comes across as we’re in for an exciting couple of years.

  31. 31 Kevin said at 4:10 PM on June 3rd, 2013:

    I don’t think NFL players’ diets are all necessarily regulated or planned by dieticians or nutritionists. Or maybe it’s just an option available to players that they can take or leave. I recall seeing Chad Johnson (I guess it was Hard Knocks? I’ve never watched but one episode… were the Bengals on Hard Knocks?) taking a cameraman through his daily routine each morning before practice. This included him stopping in the McDonald’s drive-thru on the way to practice and ordering a whole bunch of crap. Obviously that isn’t the recommended diet of any dietician or nutritionist. It’s entirely possible that Eagles players were free to eat whatever they wanted to. Junk food and protein shakes, yeah?

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