Sunday Practice Wrap

Posted: August 4th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 57 Comments »

The Eagles had Saturday off, but were back in action on Sunday. Chip Kelly seemed very happy with the practice at his PC afterward. Let’s catch up on some highlights.

* Jason Peters was out there for half the practice, then left with trainers. He’s still having hamstring issues. I’m not too concerned yet, but I’d be lying if I said this didn’t bug me a little. Lane Johnson took over for him at LT. After practice Kelly talked about how that’s the plan, for Johnson to be the backup LT. What they don’t know yet is how they will fill RT when he slides over. They can put Todd Herremans there or they can put Dennis Kelly there. When Herremans slides outside, Danny Watkins takes over at RG. The Eagles are still figuring out the best combination.

* WR Arrelious Benn came back and played today. Kelly noted that he liked what he saw. Kelly said he was expecting Benn to be rusty since he’d missed several days in a row, but Benn wasn’t. Kelly referred to him as “Rejus”. That’s been Benn’s nickname for years.

* There was a fight today. First one of camp. DE Clifton Geathers fought the rest of the team, everyone who went to Woodstock and all the extras from Spartacus. Why? That would make it a fair fight. This man is frightening.

* Chip Kelly is very hands-on with STs. This is good news. That unit has struggled for several years here in Philly. They need better coaching and some serious attention.

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Peter King and Andrew Brandt were at Eagles practice. I’m sure Pete will have a full article in MMQB. For now, some tweets.

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Jimmy Bama’s notes are here.

• The defense as a whole was good in coverage today, as Nick Foles explained. “You probably saw today that we checked down a lot more to the backs than we have recently,” said Foles. “That’s a credit to the defense for playing well today, but it really gives us the ability to go through our whole read progression, and get it down to the backs.”

Both Vick and Foles did indeed check it down quite a bit today. I thought Vick looked especially sharp in doing so. Vick was getting the ball out much quicker today, and was throwing accurate passes. He has come on a bit in the last few days.

• Damaris Johnson has a series today during 11-on-11’s in which he caught a short pass, then ran 50 yards down the field to finish the play. He then had to sprint back, line up, go in motion one way, go in motion back the other way, get into his route, catch another pass and finish down the field again. A big “Chip Kelly theme” is endurance. To run a fast paced offense, you absolutely need to be in shape, and Johnson’s series was a great example of that.

Many people talked about the defense doing a very good job in coverage today. The WRs were struggling to get separation. That’s good for the DBs, but not so good for the WRs.

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Sheil Kapadia has his notes posted. He saw good stuff from Vick and DJax.

1:52 – Vick gets the first-team reps during 7-on-7s and connects with Jackson time after time after time. It felt like Jackson caught about 70 balls during today’s practice. He was open all day and didn’t have a drop, as far as I could tell. The speedy wide receiver is having an excellent camp.

2:06 – In 11-on-11s, Vick throws a beauty to James Casey in between the linebacker and safety. He then rolls to his right off of play-action and delivers a dart to Jackson in front of Williams.

Foles with good moments here too. He finds Casey and then connects with Momah while rolling to his right. Don’t think either QB threw an incompletion during this period.

Vick’s back up. He squeezes one in to Jackson between Mychal Kendricks and Nate Allen. Jackson’s catch rate during team drills in camp has to be over 80 percent.

It really is great that DeSean is playing so well. Can’t wait to see him in action this week. Also excited to see how Vick plays.

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Here is some LB talk from PE.com’s practice notes.

* Outside linebacker Chris McCoy continues to excel in coverage. He was able to hold his own against receivers throughout practice and nearly made an interception.

* Inside linebacker Casey Matthews looked good in pursuit and flowed to the football. He ran 10 yards from his inside linebacker position to meet running back LeSean McCoy in the hole on a stretch play as McCoy tried to turn the corner.

* The best play of practice came toward the very end, when inside linebacker Mychal Kendricks showed off his explosive athleticism by leaping high in the air to intercept a Nick Foles pass near the left sideline.

“Mychal Kendricks’ skill set is great to blitz, but Mychal Kendricks’ skill set is great to cover,” head coach Chip Kelly said after practice. “I would argue he may be our best cover linebacker. So you’re kind of caught in that.

“You look at the play he made, the dive and catch on the interception, I’m not sure we have another linebacker with that skill set. So it’s tough when you have that – I shouldn’t say it’s tough. It’s nice to have a guy that has that skill set that can do both. So I think we’ve got to be conscious of, yeah, he’s great to bring on blitzes. But he’s also great in coverage, so we have to mix and match. But the ability, what it ends up being for Mike, is he’s truly a three down linebacker.”

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57 Comments on “Sunday Practice Wrap”

  1. 1 Weapon Y said at 10:57 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    Tommy, do you get the sense that Vick has outplayed Foles at training camp? From the notes written by yourself, Jimmy, Sheil, Tim, and Brandon, it appears that Vick hasn’t been great, but is putting daylight between himself and Foles. Meanwhile, Barkley and Dixon are completely out of the race. I know you used a great analogy in OTAs: that Nick Foles had the lead, but it was like having the lead in lap 12 of the Indy 500. This would be more like lap 200. It’s still not decisive, but the sense of urgency has to be greater.

    Alternatively, Chip Kelly could give us a surprise plot twist: he promised the job to G.J. Kinne from the beginning, and this competition was a decoy.

  2. 2 TommyLawlor said at 11:14 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    Adam Caplan said on Twitter today he still thinks Foles is in the lead. Others say Vick.

    I haven’t seen them play so I can only go off what I’ve read. Sounds like Vick has been more impressive with the pads on, while Foles has been better with them off.

    Preseason games are really going to decide this.

  3. 3 GEagle said at 11:39 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    I like that they seem to be one upping each other. When one has a good day, the other one answers and it seems like the competition is pushing both playerrs

  4. 4 Jernst said at 1:53 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    that’s really the best possible scenario that we can hope for in this situation and it seems like Chip’s insistence on competition is working just as planned.

  5. 5 GEagle said at 3:16 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Yes Sir…as for Today, if Nick Foles can do what he did today in a real game, Watch Out!! I was actually happy with how all 3 looked today, but Nick was flat out impressive! This was the best zI had ever seen the young man look…He had a down day late last week and Vick played well, but then Foles answered with a Big Day(allegedly, since I wasnt there that day), but Today I doubt anyone will say that he wasnt impressive..

    I actually think most of the competition just started, especially since they have been pretty close all year. Seems like they are now getting comfortable in the offense, which is a good sign, because you want to see things come together the week of the first preseason game. I expect Vicks seniority will get him the start on friday, but we will probably see both QBs play with the same offensive players so tha chip can better evaluate their performance

  6. 6 Jernst said at 3:44 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Thats good to hear! I’m glad Foles is coming on strong. He looked down right bad the one day I was at training camp. I was shocked after reading all the rave reviews of his play. Having him establish himself as a legitimate QB would be the best possible scenario. I just haven’t seen the arm strength needed to really challenge the entire field yet. Can’t wait to see him in the preseason!

  7. 7 GEagle said at 3:46 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Benn also looked good today building off a good practice yesterday. Man I hope this kid can play 16 games for us…
    ..
    saw atleast 3 PBU’s from Mykal “My man crush” Kendricks lol
    ..
    Ertz made a couple smooth catches

  8. 8 SteveH said at 10:59 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    Re: Clifton Geathers fight

    Q: Who’d you get into it with today?

    A: I don’t know. I kinda blacked out.

    “I don’t let up. I never let up. Never will. I’m going to finish you.”

  9. 9 TommyLawlor said at 11:12 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    Yep.

  10. 10 ICDogg said at 3:34 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    It’s all in Clifton Geathers’ new book, “Lessons I Learned From Uncle Jumpy”.

  11. 11 mksp said at 11:18 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    The laughed out loud to this:

    Q: Who’d you get into it with today?

    A: I don’t know. I kinda blacked out.

    Q: What started it?

    A: It’s hot outside.

  12. 12 SteveH said at 11:49 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    It’s sort of a half non-sequitar, which makes it even more terrifying lol.

  13. 13 Tumtum said at 5:01 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Really starting to like Clifton.

  14. 14 TommyLawlor said at 11:52 PM on August 4th, 2013:

    A reader on Twitter just mentioned that he’s been having trouble accessing the site since Saturday on his iPhone. Anyone else? Has worked fine for me.

  15. 15 Sb2bowl said at 12:48 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Doing okay here; haven’t logged in thru iPhone lately but can read and browse no problem.

  16. 16 TommyLawlor said at 1:55 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Guy responded back that his iPhone and computer had problems. That really has me stumped.

  17. 17 D3FB said at 3:14 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    guy otc is a hack anyways, no loss.

  18. 18 planetx1971 said at 1:37 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Now that someone else mentioned it & feel sure it’s not just my equipment, I’ve had trouble for a while too. Sometimes it won’t let me on @ all bit even more often, on my phone AND the PC, I’ll just start reading the days new article and BLAM the site just shuts down. Drives me crazy because this is the very first AND last site I check every day……

  19. 19 Tumtum said at 5:05 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    So you load the site and then lose it? That really sounds like a router.

  20. 20 planetx1971 said at 5:38 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I had that thought, but the internet on my PC is through my cable company & the internet on my phone is through Straight Talk. So I’m stumped….. doesn’t happen all the time obviously, but boy does it irk me when it does.

  21. 21 planetx1971 said at 5:43 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I doubt it matters but my phone is an Android & my laptop is a Sony Vaio…

  22. 22 Tumtum said at 5:03 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    His first problem is that he is using an Iphone and probably an Apple computer.

    Wonder if he is accessing from the same router? Could be there. Could see how a setting might get changed to make it not play nice with wordpress.

  23. 23 Anders said at 1:59 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Im getting really pumped for the upcoming season. Cant wait to see Jackson have a possible better season than 2009 or 2010.

  24. 24 GEagle said at 1:02 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    yeah, I’m pretty jacked up already myself:

    Oline and the Run game. last time we saw Peters and Shady on the same field they were one of the most unstoppable forces in football. Who knows how much better Bryce will be this year. heck, he doesn’t even know how glorious it is yet, to run behind Peters mauling 2-3 defenders in front of him. I also expect Polk to get a few touches. Bryce had a interesting comment about him, that his speed is so deceptive that it should allow him to get around the corner because defenders just won’t expect it..

    The way Reid allowed Defenses to shackle Desean was pathetic. pumped to see a coach use a dedicated Desean to his full abilities, but I’m also very excited about young guys like Maris,Rejus,Shep and Moh…Mosher needs to slow down with the Shepperd love. 1st he writes an article about how “Dominant” Shep has been, and today he writes an article about Shep possibly becoming our starting WR…Whoaaaaa Nellie. Slow your horses Geoff. hasn’t Dion Lewis’s camp dominations of the past taught us anything? Lol

    very excited to see which of our young defenders will take that next step. prediction, Kendricks has the biggest year, followed by Cox and Boykin…Really like the reunion of Meco and barwin. Graham and Thorton are X factors.
    Cox will screw up Chips plans and never allow us to become a predominant 3-4 team. he will grow into such a disruptive force that we won’t be able to justify making him 2Gap…that’s the dream ATleast lol
    ..
    Me thinks Kendricks is in for a Big Year!!

  25. 25 Jernst said at 1:56 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    So true about Reid and DeSean. Sending him on repeated 9 patterns while both safeties and the corner to that side bailed out by 30 yards at the snap was just pure laziness.

    And, I completely agree with comment about Cox. Hopefully, (and I have no reason to suspect otherwise from what I’ve seen so far) Chip is smart enough to not waste a talent like Cox’s holding the point in a 2-gap 3-4.

  26. 26 GEagle said at 3:22 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    It was either pure Laziness, or a complete lack of immagination…either way it was the equivalent of malpractice how he didnt aid Desean at all. Just let him be taken out of games, while not making defenses pay for the attention they give Desean….I expect that Chip will happily welcome DCs giving Desean all that attention, because he knows how to make them pay for it. He isnt stubborn in his philosophies. I think he is much more concerned with putting up points, then putting up points with the “chip kelly offense”..while Reid seemed to stubborn in wanting to put up points “His way”, instead of adjusting to what defenses were giving him…..Reid was playing Checkers these past two years, and Im hoping and expecting Chip to play Chess!!!

  27. 27 Jernst said at 3:39 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I’m so looking forward to a coach that does the obvious thing (8 in the box, throw over top…Safeties and CBs dropping 30 yards at the snap, throw short or run and make them get back to a base defense.) I got so tired of watching other teams cheat so far in one direction and watch us not take advantage of it and force them to get back to base defense, but rather keep throwing into what the other team expected.

  28. 28 GEagle said at 3:43 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    AMEN….Preeeeeeeach!!!…the refusal to take what the defense gave us was maddening, and then to become predictable on top of that is just the perfect cocktail for failure…Andy went from genius, to predictably irrational,

  29. 29 Jernst said at 5:00 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I always felt Reid played the game on the chalk board the week prior and not on the field as it was happening. If he saw something on the film that he felt could exploit in the passing game he was going to exploit that weakness whether or not it was still there and regardless of what his eyes and common sense would tell anyone watching what was going on.

    The Oline is injured and not able to block for the QB, your QB is off target and playing poorly while running for his life, Safeties are playing 30 yards deep, you’ve given up 6 sacks already and haven’t hit on one big play, while your RB averages 6 yards a carry…keep sending 5 out, take 7 step drops with no hot reads and keep chucking it…cause hey…we saw some things on the tape we thought we could exploit. HOLY HELL…what about what’s going on right in front of you in real time!!! God I’m surprised I didn’t stroke out with the number of times we had to endure that recurring explanation after a mind blowing loss.

  30. 30 xlGmanlx said at 2:33 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    It isn’t unheard of for a college coach to take a team to the NFC championship game and the SB in their first two years out of college after heavy recruitment. I’m not saying that it is going to happen, just saying something similar has happened recently. Those are better odds then losing your first SB attempt.

  31. 31 GermanEagle said at 2:58 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    The longer the TC lasts, the more shocked I would be to not see Vick start the season opener against the Redskins.

    All I’ve been reading is that he looks ‘sharp’, and one twitterer even posted that he’s thrown one interception all training camp.

    Cannot wait to see Vick against the Pats on Friday!

  32. 32 GEagle said at 1:08 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    can anyone think when the last time a preseason game had so much heat? I really can’t remember the last time I was so pumped for a preseason? the closest i can come up with is the TO bomb against the Ravens preseason?…I remember sitting in the Flight Deck section for the preseason game against the Pats, when midway thru the 2nd quarter, rumors started spreading thru the crowd at the Linc that we signed Vick(but that wasn’t actual excitement for a game)…

    I’m just hoping we can get through the preseason without any significant injuries.

  33. 33 planetx1971 said at 1:48 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I am green (Kelly) with envy that you get to go to all this stuff. I grew up in Lancaster, pop & grandad were both huge fans but all I ever made it too were a bunch of Phillies games. My fiancée & I are determined to make the pilgrimage down for a game all the way from Vt. But finding tickets, a place to stay that isn’t crazy expensive, all seem REALLY daunting…..

  34. 34 GEagle said at 3:31 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    im a maniac tho…I usually spend my summers on beaches in Europe lol, because of the coaching change, I literally saved my vacation days to go to these practices…Thats not normal.
    ..
    when you(and all you other long distant bird fans) are ready to make the trip to the Mecca of Eaglesdom, make sure to let us know, and some of us locals will be sure to point you in the right direction with Affordable motels, while steering you away from the disgusting ones, and telling you the “Must try” food joints(staying away from crappy tourist crap like Geno’s and Pats steaks lol).. When you do make the trip, make sure you take in the entire experience. If the game starts at 1pm, make sure you are Tailgating in the parking lot with Beer and Food at 10am, getting Rowdy!! lol

  35. 35 planetx1971 said at 5:24 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Thank you for the sage advice. Now & in the future. I will ABSOLUTELY take you up on your advice to be my “tour guide” as it were, and let you steer me in the right directions. BTW, Tailgating was absolutely at the top of my list for when we make the trip. Thanks GEagle, MUCH appreciated!!

  36. 36 I Got Jokes, Calm Down said at 5:53 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    man i cant wait for this 1st preseason game!!! and its so close!!! Thank the lord!!! amen!!

  37. 37 I Got Jokes, Calm Down said at 5:55 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    wonder how jake knott has been doing? seems like some other LBs getting the shine while no mention of knott.

  38. 38 Jernst said at 9:46 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    aw man … I think Clifton might actually be a little slow.

    Clifton Geathers
    ‏@ClifGeathers
    16 Jun
    “Out eating with some newly meet friend’s what a great time today happy farther day to all the farther”

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 12:14 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    We can hope it was a typo… twice? To be fair, his fingers are bigger than the keypad.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtbPOXFk00&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8DtbPOXFk00

  40. 40 Andy124 said at 12:38 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    damn you autocorrect…

  41. 41 planetx1971 said at 1:40 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    YOU wanna be the one to tell him he’s “slow”? If you get the chance, let me know? I wanna watch …….

  42. 42 Jernst said at 1:51 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Hahaha…so true! I should have never attached my name to that comment. I’m gonna be looking over my shoulder for some giant scary masked marauder for the next few weeks.

  43. 43 A_T_G said at 2:32 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    If you do get cornered by him, just fall to the ground whimpering, “Please, spare me! I am a farther! I have a sorn and darughter that need me!”

  44. 44 Jernst said at 3:00 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    haha hilarious

  45. 45 TommyLawlor said at 9:20 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Those free glasses are making you funnier.

  46. 46 eagleyankfan said at 9:48 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Would love for 2 players to prove me wrong. However, I’m not letting tweets sway my decision. I’ll let game play prove me wrong … or right…

  47. 47 eagleyankfan said at 9:53 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Boykin promoted and given a shot? Sweet. Hopefully the Peters injuries aren’t “2013 Jeter like”

  48. 48 austinfan said at 9:54 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    Some thoughts:

    QB – as long as both QBs are playing well, let the best man (and not the lesser of two evils) win.
    RB – what, me worry? Brown doesn’t seem to be fumbling too much, Polk may be a revelation.
    WR – DeSean is rising to the challenge, D Johnson is going to get lots of PT, after that ??? But guys like Momah and Salas need time to evaluate, so someone may step up. Still, it’s been a revolving door at the end of the roster (Gibson, Amendola, McNutt, Cunningham, et al).

    TE – Celek better get some hands, I’m disappointed in Carrier, year on the PS he needs to step it up.
    OL – Peters hammy is a nagging worry, but not unexpected. Otherwise got to get Kelly back on the field for reps, and who is stepping up at backup C?
    DL – If Geathers gets into gear, this could be a very good DL, he could be a great run down two gapper at DE, with Thornton and Logan off the bench.
    LB – McCoy and Long are adding depth outside, but with Phillips gone, who’s the backup ILBs? Fortunately, that may be the easiest spot to fill on a 3-4.
    CB – If Boykin and Marsh step up, this goes from a weakness to a strength.
    S – the Magical Mystery tour continues.

  49. 49 GEagle said at 11:42 AM on August 5th, 2013:

    I’m on my way to practice…keeping a close eye on Benn today

  50. 50 GEagle said at 3:33 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Foles was straight up impressive today. All 3 played well, but Foles was very tough to beat today.

  51. 51 Buge Halls said at 1:15 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    It still boggles my mind that after, what, 10 years in the league, Vick is still learning the game. According to this article, he’s apparently finally learned to get the ball out fast. In the spring, it was he has finally figured out how to hold the ball the right way. And for ages now it’s been he’s going to slide instead of trying to run through tacklers. Now he only needs to learn how to study the opposing teams’ defensive schemes before games (tape study and lots of it), learn how to read where the blitz is coming from (tapes again), and learn that not every play has to be a 50-yard bomb (goes back to getting the ball out faster), and an arm’s length list of other skills he needs to finally learn.

    Somebody in an article I read on Philly.com (sorry I can’t give a quote) said something on the line of “Vick has made a career out of making coaches think he’s on the verge of a great year”. Let’s hope Chip isn’t falling for it as well!

    I’m not saying Foles is the answer. Or anybody else on the team for that matter. But we all know what Vick has to offer – eight to ten games followed by a season-ending injury (if the past is any indicator of the future). Foles may be nothing but mediocre, but we really don’t know. Barkely? Who knows.

    My point, this year should be looked at as a throw-away and let’s play the talent we know will be here for a while. Yes, i want the Eagles to win and win now. But a meaningless 6 or 8 wins and us being right in the exact same spot next summer that we’re in now would be the worst outcome.

  52. 52 JoeD said at 2:44 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Even though Vick is currently “winning,” let’s wait til pre-season. Vick usually shows he shows true colors in real game time situations. Once he gets flustered he’l go back to holding the ball to the last second and trying to make something happen that isn’t there.

  53. 53 GEagle said at 3:37 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Im not sure Vick is “Winning”…Its close, but a lot of people still have Advantage Foles. I doubt anyone will say that Vick won today. He actually played well, but Foles was on point..

    I expect Vets like Cole and Vick to start on Friday with Graham and Foles seeing as much time as they do with the first teamers. There is no reason to embarress veterans at this point in the process by benching them. If Chip Kelly starts Foles on Friday, you know he will have to endure a crap storm from the philly media. There is no reason to put Vick in that position, at this point when its so important for him to play his best

  54. 54 eagleyankfan said at 3:04 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    Chip doesn’t have all the players to do what exactly he wants to do. This year, his planning is on who was giving to him. We need to keep that in mind this year. Ever see the TV show Chopped? That’s what Chip has here — a basket of mixed ingredients and he has to make something good out of it. Soon, Chip will have his own ingredients 🙂

  55. 55 GEagle said at 3:39 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    good point…but I do think that a lot of our guys really apealled to him when weighing his decision to come here..but I do suspect that there are some good players here who he will feel the need to replace (*Cough* Cough* Celek* Cough*)

  56. 56 planetx1971 said at 8:38 PM on August 5th, 2013:

    I’m just kind of relieved that by most accounts I’ve red, that Foles is doing well. Because in the event Vick wins this thing his track record of getting injured suggests that Foles will be in there once the nearly inevitable takes place & #7 goes down. I mean, Vick has completed what? ONE season in his career?

  57. 57 Louis Vuitton Outlet said at 9:16 AM on August 6th, 2013:

    Louis Vuitton Outlet

    “fast internet and phone connections to billions of people in far flung corners of the earth.”