Detailed Game Review – PHI 24, WAS 16

Posted: November 22nd, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 88 Comments »

After 3 quarters, the Eagles were up 24-0 and on top of the world. The 4th quarter was ugly, but in the end it didn’t impact the outcome. A blowout became a close win. “Win” being the key word. Last year the Eagles lost every way imaginable. I’m not going to apologize for ugly wins. That victory improved the Eagles to 6-5 and put them alone atop the NFC East. You can argue the merits of that distinction. It would be similar to being the Detmer with the strongest arm.

The problem with this game is that the offense and defense both got cold at the same time. The offense was great for 2 1/2 quarters and then got sloppy. They could not score, nor sustain drives to work the clock. The Eagles defense played brilliantly for 3 quarters, allowing just 193 yards and no points. They flew around the field and played with great energy. They gave up some rushing yards, but kept the Skins under control. The 4th quarter was a very different story. The Eagles gave up 234 yards and 16 points. Ugh.

While the results weren’t pretty, the Eagles did find a way to win. There is something to be said for that. When we see the Eagles win ugly, we tend to pick apart what happened. If we see the Patriots or Packers win an ugly game, our response is generally something more like “Good teams do that. They just find a way to win.”

There really is a lot to be encouraged by in this game. If you stopped the game in the middle of the 3rd quarter, people would be raving about the Eagles and how well they played. The problem is finishing games off. The Eagles just don’t have much speed on defense and that leaves them vulnerable to the passing game. Opposing teams should throw the ball a lot when facing the Eagles. Running the ball actually plays into the Eagles hands. It takes long, sustained drives. It works the clock, which shortens the game. And it allows the defense to be led by the DL and not the secondary. I’d much rather you test Cox-Logan-Thornton than Williams-Allen-Chung-Carmichael. That looks better when Bradley Fletcher is in there, but it still isn’t a compelling group.

How frustrated must Skins fans be? They have Mike Shanahan, a 2-time Super Bowl winner and NFL offensive guru, as coach. They have Jim Haslett, a proven NFL defensive coach. They have a franchise QB in RG3. They have a good RB in Alfred Morris. They have Orakpo and Kerrigan, a good OLB duo. And yet that team is still a mess. Chip Kelly is cleaning up the mess of 2012 and has the Eagles moving in the right direction immediately. Shanny delivered some fool’s gold in 2012 and that raised hopes for this year that aren’t close to being met. Will he stick around for the future? I sure hope so.   


There are a few items to discuss. Chip Kelly called a timeout and then draw late in the half. Why? The Eagles were at their own 38-yd line. There were 17 seconds left and it was 3rd/15. Kelly ran a draw. It gained 2 yards. Had Bryce Brown broken loose for 25 yards, you would have been in FG range. It was worth it to stop the clock and give yourself an outside shot. If you drop back to pass, you have more things that can go wrong (holding call, sack, strip-sack, INT, pass deflection, hit on the QB). Run the draw. Safe play that might break for a long gain. If it doesn’t, you punt and the Skins won’t have time to do anything.

The Eagles got into the shotgun on 4th/inches. This is not my favorite move. I prefer the I-formation or a QB sneak. Lining up in the shotgun and running a dive play is awkward to me. Brown got the 1st down. He ran hard and straight ahead. He did exactly what Kelly wanted.

This was another week with controversial non-challenges. Chip didn’t challenge a 1st half run where Alfred Morris was clearly out of bounds. He also didn’t challenge a play where Riley Cooper looked to have scored a TD. This really becomes a philosophical discussion. The Morris run netted an extra 7 yards or something like that. The ball was at the WAS 20 and it was a 1st down. Is that worth challenging? There is no right/wrong answer, only opinions.

The Cooper play got the ball to the 1-foot line. The Eagles scored on the next play. No harm, no foul. This time. Having seen the Eagles commit way too many Red Zone turnovers in recent years, I think you can argue more strongly that this was a play Kelly should have challenged. I do think the ball broke the plane. I can’t say with absolute conviction that the refs would have ruled for a TD, but I think they would have.

Some questioned Kelly’s decision to go for it on 4th/1 in the 4th quarter. The Eagles weren’t in FG range. I’d rather go for it than punt and risk only getting 18 additional yards. I liked the call. Just didn’t work.


The Eagles were a passing team in the 1st half, having almost a 2-to-1 pass to run ratio. And that was smart. From the first snap you could see the Skins would sell out to stop Shady. They paid no attention to Foles on the read-option. The Eagles played mostly in 3 WR spread sets, but the Skins still focused on the run. They kept 7 in the box and only 1 deep Safety against that look. They did a good job vs Shady, but could not stop Foles and the passing game.

Foles threw a couple of deep balls, but that wasn’t working. The Eagles were able to throw short and create big plays. Celek and Brown turned screens into big gains. DeSean caught intermediate passes and got downfield. There were a lot of RAC yards in the game and that’s great. Those are safer plays. 9 of Foles completions went to RBs or TEs. Only 8 went to WRs.

The big criticism of the offense is that it was too conservative in the 2nd half. I don’t fully agree with this. The focus went on the run game, as it should have. You want to work the clock. The Eagles still mixed in passes. It seemed to me that the Skins just did a much better job of covering than in the 1st half. You watch plays and don’t see players running open as much. And Foles didn’t want to force things. That’s smart. Play to the situation. With a lead, you don’t need to take chances.

I’m frustrated with Shady. He was too aggressive in the 2nd half. If you re-watch the game, you’ll see holes that he passed up. He kept trying to get outside for big plays. That had worked in the 1st half. He needed to show better situational awareness. In the 2nd half, you want to move the chains more than you want big plays. Shady wasn’t passing up huge holes, but he had room to run. If Alex Gibbs studied, the film, he’d have a heart attack. He taught RBs to make one-cut and then get upfield. Shady kept swinging for the fences. Just wasn’t the right thing to do.

We do have to give the Skins some credit. S Reed Doughty played very well in the 2nd half. He came down in the box a lot and either made the tackle or boxed Shady in. That was good defense by him. I do wonder if Kelly should have mixed in Brown or even Chris Polk some. Force the Skins to face a different RB style.

It was smart of the coaches to get the ball to the RBs in the passing game. The Skins have LBs that are big and tough, but not speedy. Kelly probably knew that the Skins would aggressively play the run so one way to get Shady going is to throw him the ball in space. Worked well.


1st/10. 12 personnel. Both WRs are to the left. TEs are stacked to the right. Skins have Nickel D in there, but an 8 man front. Really more like a 10-man front. Both TEs release to the inside. They take DBs to the inside with them. Shady runs a semi-wheel route. Really just has an angled release, then goes downfield. He’s 1-on-1 with Kerrigan. Total mismatch. Foles hits him in stride and Shady gets 49 on the play.

1st/GL. From the 1. Skins were inexplicably in a Nickel D. Had 2 DTs, 2 OLBs, 2 ILBs, and 5 DBs. Mathis blew open a huge hole and Shady walked into the end zone. ILB Perry Riley watched Foles and didn’t go for Shady. That made the TD easy.


* Skins had some success with ILB blitzes, especially on delays.

* Went under C late in the 1st Qtr on 3rd/1. This is a recent wrinkle that Derek Sarley has written about in his film reviews for the Daily News.

* 4-13 on 3rd downs.

* 3-4 in the Red Zone. 3 for 3 on Goal to Go situations. That was critical in this game.



FOLES – Good game. 17-26-298. Didn’t have a TD or any turnovers. Came close to a TD with 2 passes. One was ruled a score and then reversed. The other probably should have been but didn’t get challenged. Looked good from the start. Erased any doubts that the Nick from the Dallas game would be involved. That guy seems to be long gone.

Good mechanics. Could sell his play-action fakes a bit better. Like many young QBs, Foles doesn’t want his back to the defense for long so he’s quick with his fakes. Does a good job of turning his shoulders so he is perpindicular to the LOS before setting to throw. Sets his feet and throws. Not slow, but not in a rush either. Be quick, but not in a hurry. Seeing Foles in the pocket made me feel confident. The guy from the Dallas game was very awkward. Foles was comfortable on Sunday.

Had another good game as a runner. Made the Skins pay for not taking him seriously. Ran 9 times for 47 yards and a TD. By comparison, RG3 ran 10 times for 44 yards and no TDs. How many people thought Nick would be the more productive runner? You probably could have won a ton of money in Vegas with a prop bet on this.


Early deep ball to Riley was a pretty good throw. Just missed connecting for a 90-yd TD.

Hit DJax on 3rd/11. Sat in the pocket and made a good throw. Ball was thrown to good spot, away from the DB. Was that intentional?

Had to run for his life on early 3rd down. Pressure came from left side. Nick went right and held the ball a bit, but then wisely threw it away.

Good throw to Shady down the sideline for a gain of 49. Put some air under it so Shady could adjust, but threw it flat enough that no defender would be able to make a play. Tough balancing act.

Nothing pretty about his TD run except the result. Got near the GL and then used his size to fight his way into the end zone.

Got great protection to open the 3rd series. Had no one open so took off running for a gain of 15.

Good job on screen to Celek. Looked right. Gave quick pump fake. Looked back left at last second and made quick, soft throw.

Hit Riley on dig route with good throw. Riley was able to add RAC yds since he caught the ball on the move. Hit DeSean on a drag route on the next play. Short throw that turned into a gain of 26 due to RAC yds. Pass to Riley was perfect spiral with good velocity. Pass to DJax was a soft, touch throw. Both guys were able to pluck the ball on the move and get upfield.

Ran screen to Brown in the mid-2nd. Smith lined up in the backfield and went in motion to the left. Decoy. Foles looked his way and pump-faked, then turned and dumped the ball to Brown. Lots of room. Gain of 24.

Took a big hit from Fletcher on delay blitz. Got sacked. Ball came loose, but they ruled Nick down. I was nervous that replay might show this was a fumble, but nothing came of it.

Tried to run on 3rd/3 inside the 10. Looked like he should have given the ball to Polk. The OLB went for Polk, but team only needed 3 yds and Polk is a good downhill runner. Foles got 2 of the 3 yds. SS focused on Foles and went hard after him the second he saw it was a keeper.

Took a sack late in the half that basically killed that drive.

Scrambled on opening drive of the 2nd half and got a 1st down, then slid.

Scrambled for 10 yards in the early 4th.

Made one very bad decision in the 4th. On 3rd/long, tried to force a ball to Cooper. CB undercut the route and almost picked it off. Foles was greedy there and got away with it.

Scrambled on 3rd down late in the game. Looked like he got the 1st, but Shanny challenged and replay overturned the call.


SHADY – 20-77 on the ground. 4-73 as a receiver. Ran for a pair of TDs. That was good to see. Shady hadn’t had a rushing TD since the first Giants game. Got the team going with big catch/run down the right sideline. Thought he had a TD, but got tackled at the 4 for only a gain of 49 yards. Slow. Lazy. Missed a blitz pickup on 1st/GL. Riley did a delay blitz and Shady didn’t see him til the last minute. Forced Nick to move in the pocket and throw the ball away. First good run came late in the 1st Qtr. We used a spread set so there were 5 blockers for 5 defenders with one DB for Shady to beat. He got by that guy, but someone else grabbed him down by the jersey. Got 9 yds on the play. Had a great run in the mid-2nd. S fired into the backfield and Shady unleashed one of his Barry Sanders cuts on the guy and went around him. Shady got up the field for 10 yds. Meriweather tackled him and Shady started jawing right in his face. Got called for taunting, which moved the Eagles half the distance to the goal. Had another incredible run when that drive got down to the Red Zone. Was running outside zone. Fletcher shot a gap to get him and Shady hopped away from that and kept going wide. Turned upfield. Eluded Meriweather and Kerrigan, then cut to the inside. Got inside the 10 and had a chance for a TD, but went to the ground and grabbed his hammy. Scary moment. Shady was in pain. Was out for the rest of the half. Came right back in the 3rd Qtr. Caught a couple of passes on that drive. Short stuff, but kept the chains moving. Drew a flag on one when the LB horse-collared him. Would have been a TD without that so the guy had to. Ran for 1-yd TD up the middle to finish that drive.

Had a couple of great runs in the 2nd half. Made defenders miss in the backfield. Just wicked moves. Unfortunately, started looking for too many big plays and trying to get outside. Made poor choice on 4th Qtr run. Didn’t have room up the middle, but could have gotten a yard or so. Decided to cutback. That was closed off. Tried to run around that guy and was tackled for a loss. Did this on a few plays. On one drive, had runs of -5 and -6 yards. Clearly the Skins were loading the box and selling out to stop the run. Shady just needed to focus on getting a yard or two and not trying to get into space.

B BROWN – 4 carries for just 2 yards. A couple of those runs came on 4th/short. Did go 2-28 as a receiver. Caught screen in the mid-2nd and got upfield for gain of 24. Play had a chance to be huge, but got tripped up and couldn’t keep his balance. Caught screen before the half. Didn’t get many yards, but did manage to get out of bounds. Best run came on 4th/inches. No hesitation. Hit it hard. Got a yard. Was stuffed on 4th/short in the 2nd half.

POLK – Only used for 1 snap at RB. Got in the game late in the half. Didn’t get the ball on option play.


CELEK – Didn’t really have a clean block on Foles TD run, but did get in the way of a defender. No style points, but effective. Caught screen pass to open the 2nd Qtr and went flying down the field. Tackled as he got into the end zone. Originally ruled a TD, but replay showed he was down at the 1-yd line. Slow. Lazy. Good block on 4th/inches. Got into his defender, turned him sideways and made sure the guy didn’t get penetration. That gave Brown space to attack. The screen was the only pass that came his way.

ERTZ – Caught pass in the late 1st Qtr. Crossing route. Got a gain of 15. Was given a clean release on that play and just ran away from the DB. Had a bad drop on easy pass over the middle in the early 3rd. Came right back to him on the next play. Made this catch in traffic, took a big hit, bounced off that and got 5 extra yards. Finished 2-31.

CASEY – Had a good block on 3rd Qtr play-action pass.


D JACKSON – 4-82. First catch came on 3rd down on the opening drive. Caught the ball near the sideline and then took a huge hit. Drew a flag. DB hit him in the helmet. Best catch came in the mid-2nd. Caught pass on drag route. Had Wilson trailing him and got the ball on the move. Added almost 25 RAC yards. Able to turn on the jets and get wide and then down the sideline. Caught pass along the sideline late in the half. Caught pass on deep crossing route in the early 3rd and got 22 yards on that play. Easy. Wide open and running in space.

AVANT – Quiet game. Had pass come his way in the late 1st Qtr. Was open on crossing route. Jason reached for the ball with one hand, but couldn’t hang on. Looked like pass was too far out front of him. Caught short pass in the early 3rd. Came over the middle on 3rd/5. Came up just short of the sticks. Bobbled the catch or might have gotten the 1st. Had a DB right there so it wasn’t an easy catch.

COOPER – 3-37. Sounds like a quiet game, but was more impactful than that. Targeted 7 times, the most of any Eagles receiver. Foles went his way with a deep ball on the opening drive. Looked like there should have been a penalty called on the Skins for PI. CB grabbed Cooper downfield. Cooper wasn’t able to adjust to the pass and make the catch. Hard to say if the contact was the reason, but it didn’t help. Best play was catch in the mid-2nd. Eagles were backed up inside the 10. Riley ran a dig route, which is a deep cross. Used a push-off on Amerson to create separation. No flag. Got the ball over the middle and added RAC yards for a gain of 23. Had a pass come his way in the end zone in the mid-2nd. CB held Coop or it probably would have been a TD. Drew the flag. Had a nice catch along the sideline wiped out by OL penalty in the early 3rd. Caught a slant pass inside the 5. Short, quick throw. Should have been a TD, but Riley’s back was to the GL and they ruled him short. Chip decided not to challenge. Cost him a TD. My take…Cooper was slow, lazy.

D JOHNSON – Inactive

MAEHL – Only played 5 snaps.

SMITH – First game as an Eagle. Had one snap on offense. Came in the mid-2nd. Lined up in the backfield and then went in motion to the left. Decoy. Play was RB screen to the right.


PETERS – Started. I didn’t think he had much of a chance to play, but got out there and had a solid showing. Orakpo tried running around Peters early on, but Jason just rode him deep, wide. Good block of Orakpo on Shady’s first TD run. Got under his pads and moved him off the ball. Called for illegal hands to the face when pass blocking Jackson in the early 3rd. Jason got his hand up by the bottom of Jackson’s facemask. Could have also called him for holding. Whiffed on block of OLB in the mid-4th and Shady was tackled for a loss. Good game overall.

MATHIS – Good game. May have kept Foles from getting killed on opening drive. Perry Riley looped around on blitz and got by the OL. Mathis saw him at the last minute. Got a hand on Riley to slow him just a bit. Still hit Foles hard. Had to hold Orakpo on the next play. Skins had a blitz that confused Evan and Peters. Orakpo slanted inside and had an open path to Foles. Smart to hold. Loved what Evan did on Celek’s screen. Didn’t run down the field like a cheerleader. Saw guys chasing so he slowed and basically took out 2 guys, Cofield and Doughty. Great block on Shady’s first TD run. Downblocked on DT and caved the guy in. Moved him a couple of yards to the inside. Good job on screen to Brown. Blocked DL downfield and got a bit of a shove on LB chasing the play. Gave up a sack in the 3rd Qtr, but really wasn’t his fault. Coverage sack. Foles held the ball waiting for someone to come open, but didn’t happen. Good down block on 3rd Qtr run play. Really moved the DT down the LOS.

KELCE – Very good block late in the 1st Qtr. Was able to get into the NT and move down the line. That created a hole for Shady right up the middle. Good block on Brent’s screen. Got upfield and dove at DB. Didn’t hit him, but kept the guy from getting to Celek. That’s fine on a play like that out in space. Held Cofield on pass in the 2nd Qtr and drew a flag. Good call. Put a nasty cut block on Fletcher on screen to Brown. London could see him coming so it wasn’t dirty. Hit Fletcher low and hard. Got him off balance and forced an awkward fall. Actually stayed there and helped Fletcher up. Gotta be nice to senior citizens. Kelce had some issues with Barry Cofield in the season opener, but not on Sunday.

HERREMANS – Did a good job on Foles TD run. He and Johnson moved DT off the ball. Todd stuck with the block. Very good block of Fletcher on 3rd/1. Totally kept him out of the play. Great block on Celek’s screen. Hit DL as the guy was turning and put him on the ground. Didn’t try to kill the guy, but hit him hard. Kerrigan lined up at DT and rushed up the middle in the early 3rd. Got some penetration, but Todd kept control and gave Foles room to work with. Got beat by inside move of OLB on 4th Qtr pass play. Might have held on the play. Gave Foles time to get rid of the ball.

JOHNSON – Good game. Wasn’t overly aggressive with his pass sets. Got moved back by Kerrigan at times, but was able to re-set and anchor. Good block on Foles TD run. Helped with DL at the snap, then got on Fletcher. Failed to read a stunt late in the half and Orakpo looped around him and sacked Foles. Those plays are tough on veterans, let alone rookies. Good block of Orakpo on 3rd Qtr pass. Stuck with him as he tried to round the corner. Lane eventually got him off balance and pushed him to the ground. Excellent block on Shady run to his side. Helped move DT off the ball and then completely drove Fletcher out of the play. Good down block on 4th/inches. Caved that guy in. Kerrigan was offside or close on 3rd Qtr pass play (guessed the snap count), but Lane kept him blocked. Beaten by Kerrigan in the early 4th Qtr. Foles got hit and the pass fell incomplete because of that.







Dealing with the speed and elusiveness of RG3 and the power of Alfred Morris is not fair. That really is a deadly combo. Bill Davis focused on stopping the run and even when the Eagles did the right thing, the Skins were able to get positive yards. They ran for 191 yards. It still felt like the Eagles didn’t play bad run defense.

I thought Davis did a good job of calling this game. He took some chances with blitzes, vs the run and pass. He mixed in stunts and slants. He was trying to create negative plays without being too risky. The Eagles did come up with 4 TFLs and would have had more if Morris wasn’t so hard to bring down.

Even on the final drive, Davis stayed creative. He rushed 3 guys on one play and then 4 or 5 right after that. He blitzed up the middle and off the edge. He used different combinations and different looks. Davis wasn’t going to play a standard prevent defense. My one complaint is with so much off coverage. I do understand Davis didn’t want receivers getting behind the defense, but they did a couple of times. I would have played more press, with the Safeties staying back.

In the 1st half, WAS ran 28 times for 160 yards. They didn’t score a point.

In the 2nd half, WAS ran 10 times for 31 yards and scored 16 points.


* 1st/10. Play-action pass to Paulsen. Someone blew coverage and left Paulsen wide open. Nate Allen was the underneath cover guy. He didn’t seem to think Paulsen was his guy. Cary Williams ran downfield with a WR, but it was hard to tell if the D was in man or zone. Luckily RG3 threw the pass 5 yards too far.

* 2nd/5. From PHI 5. Skins decided to throw the ball. RG3 dropped back. Coverage was tight so he held the ball. The Skins tried to block Barwin with a RB. Connor beat the back and hit RG3, knocking the ball up into the air. Fletcher Cox caught it and took off upfield. He then got the ball to a teammate, but that was a forward pass so the extra yards didn’t count. Trent Cole got a hard rush from his side. That gave RG3 nowhere to run. Cole saw the ball in the air. It was hilarious to watch him try to catch it. He looked so awkward, squatting and waiting for the ball. Don’t think Trent will ever get snaps at TE.

* 1st/10. Thornton at LDE. Cox, Logan inside. Cole at RDE. Thornton stands up as a rusher. Comes off the edge and gets into the backfield. Logan drives the C back to RG3. Those guys force RG3 to move from the pocket, where Cole gets him for a sack. Great rush with no blitzing. Cole made sure to jam the TE at the release so Trent then had a strange rush angle. Made it easier for him to get to RG3.

* 2-pt Conv. The Skins ran a simple pick play and Nick Williams was wide open.



COX – Cox was darn near invisible in the first meeting between these teams. That wasn’t the case on Sunday. He was all over the field. He chased Griffin play after play. Cox recovered a fumble and almost had an interception. He made the tackle on a screen pass that he read perfectly on 3rd/long. Hustled out wide to get to the RB.

Called for roughing on the first play. Great hustle to get out wide, but should have pulled up instead of hitting RG3. Had a wild time on 2nd Qtr run. Got off the block of the LT and grabbed Morris. Had him solidly, but wasn’t able to make the tackle. Gave up another 5 yards. Morris is very strong. Good play vs the run in the late 2nd. Got into the LG and moved him back a step. Then flowed to the outside, where the play was going. Shed the block and tackled Morris. Only gave up a yard on that. Drove the RG back into RG3’s face on 3rd Qtr pass play and forced the throw to be high and off target. Made a terrific play on a screen in the late 3rd. Read the play and stayed near the RB. Actually got the ball. Originally ruled an INT, but replay showed that the ball hit the ground. Good job vs the run in the late 3rd. Got off the block of the LT and grabbed Morris as he started upfield. On the next play he moved over to LDE. Fought off the RT and limited Morris to just a yard on 3rd/2. Collapsed the pocket on pass play on the final drive. RG3 scrambled. Cox chased him and made the stop, limiting the gain to 1 yd. Great speed, hustle. Got pressure on the game-saving INT, but also got help. Lined up at LDE. Started rushing. Was battling the RT. The RG shoved Fletch in the side, which helped him to get around the RT and into RG3’s face. That’s when the gift, aka lob pass, went up. Credited with 5 total tackles, a pass deflection and a fumble recovery.

LOGAN – Another good game. Looped out wide on opening play. Had a chance to get to RG3, but took too inside of an angle and let RG3 outside. Can’t let him get wide. Hustled down the LOS to tackle Morris on 1st Qtr run play. Drove the RG into the backfield and flushed RG3. Tried to sack him, but couldn’t get close enough. Hustled out wide on Morris run and should have had a TFL when Morris stepped out of bounds, but the official missed the call since he got hit by a player. Ran a stunt in the early 2nd Qtr where Logan looped wide. RB was right there to be hit and Logan tackled him. Helped collapse the pocket on 2nd Qtr pass and flushed RG3 out. Got some pressure on 4th/1 pass play in the early 4th Qtr. Looped outside and got up the field. Saw RG3 going to pass so Logan jumped to try and affect the throw. Pass was off target, but not sure if it was due to Logan or just a sloppy throw. Drove the LG back toward RG3 on the final drive. 3 solo stops and a TFL.

THORNTON – Had 5 solo tackles and 2 TFLs. Great play on the opening drive. Controlled the RT and pushed him back. Guy hit the RB in the backfield and the RB fell down. Showed great hustle on the play where Morris wasn’t called out of bounds. It was Thornton who ran from LDE to the far sideline and made the tackle. Next play was a run to his side. Ced pushed the RG backward and blew up the play, getting a TFL. Showed good speed in the 2nd Qtr when he chased RG3 on scramble play. Impressive play vs run in the late 2nd. Slanted to the inside from LDE. Saw ball going to the outside. Shifted back that way and got Morris as he got to the LOS. No gain. Had perfect 2-gap play to open the 3rd Qtr. Fired into the RG and moved him back. Shed the block and grabbed Morris for short gain. Offside in the mid-4th. Played NT and DE on the final drive. Got one hit on RG3.

CURRY – Another good showing. Used hard inside move to get a bit of pressure on 3rd down pass play late in the 1st Qtr. Did terrific job vs the run on early 2nd Qtr run play. Got past the LG and into the backfield, but the RB cut inside of him. Curry turned around and was able to get in on the tackle of the RB. Made a great 2-gap play in the early 2nd Qtr. Skins were in the RZ. Curry fired into the LG and then looked for the ball. RG3 kept it on an option run. Curry shed the block and grabbed RG3. Limited him to a short gain. Crucial play since next up was Barwin’s strip sack. Used hard inside move in the 3rd Qtr to force RG3 to move and throw to checkdown receiver. Got some pressure on 3rd Qtr pass play. Flushed RG3 out of the pocket and forced him to throw the ball away. Helped blow up run play in the late 3rd. Drove OL into backfield, forcing RB to stay deep. Stood up on that play. Lined up at LDE on 3rd/long and drove the RT right back into RG3’s area. Shed the RT on late pass play and jumped at RG3, which affected the accuracy of a downfield pass. Only credited with 1 tackle, but was active and disruptive.

GEATHERS – Quiet game. Got some pressure on 3rd Qtr pass play. Was generally stout vs the run, but didn’t have standout moments.

SQUARE – Solid showing. Developing nicely as a backup NT. Uses his hands really well. Able to fight off blocks. Got some penetration on 2nd Qtr pass play, then hustled out wide after the pass was thrown. Very good motor. Works to get off blocks. Showed great hustle in the early 2nd Qtr. TE Reed caught a pass along the sideline and got downfield about 10 yds. Square was there with a DB and LB to knock him out of bounds. Got hit on RG3 on final drive. Was due to effort and good downfield coverage that forced him to hold the ball.


COLE – Bit of a breakout game. Had 2 sacks and a TFL. Has been generating pressure all year, but finally got the payoff. Got blocked by TE Paulsen on outside run by Morris early in the game. Can’t give up the edge like that. Used hard inside move to flush RG3 on pass play from his own end zone. Helped Goode come free for a sack. Slanted hard inside on pass play and occupied the OL so Goode could sneak around behind him. Good job on outside run in the late 1st. Fought off block of LT and stayed wide. Got to Morris in the backfield, but couldn’t quite make the tackle. Forced him to stay deep which should have led to TFL, but refs blew out of bounds call. Got first sack late in the half. Beat LT Williams cleanly. Trent used his hands to knock away Williams hands and then turned the corner. Williams held him as Trent got away, but Trent was still able to drag RG3 to the ground. Got good pressure on 3rd Qtr pass play. Helped that Curry was driving RG3 Cole’s way. Got TFL in the late 3rd. Morris ran to Trent’s side. Trent fired off the ball and pushed back 2 TEs, then made the tackle. That was great run defense. One huge error. Failed to cover the FB on the pass play that turned into a long TD. Was okay initially, but then got caught watching RG3 and Young went further down the field. Wide open. Trent hustled in pursuit, but got tangled up with Chung and took a big hit to the head. Lost contain a few times in the 4th Qtr. Trent has to know he can’t do that vs RG3. Got the initial pressure on the final play. Drove the LT into the backfield and that pushed RG3 over toward Cox’s area. Only had 3 tackles in the game, but all were impact plays (sack or TFL).

BARWIN – Good game. Had 5 solo tackles, a sack, FF and pass deflection. Also did a very good job of setting the edge on run plays. Batted down pass on the opening drive. Set the edge on a run play to the outside and helped create a TFL. Made a form tackle of Hankerson on pass play in the early 2nd Qtr. Hustled down the LOS on run away from his side. Curry forced cutback and Barwin was there to make the stop. Tackled Morris on 2nd Qtr run that came at him. Chased Morris to the other side of the field on a 3rd Qtr run and helped tackle him. Lined up over RG on 3rd Qtr pass play. Faked blitzing and dropped back. Helped stuff Morris on 3rd/2 to open the 4th Qtr. Unblocked on the play. Helped to break up a 4th Qtr pass to the TE. Bit on run fake on bootleg play where RG3 got wide and threw a long TD pass. Pressure from Barwin could have made a big difference on that play. Rushed off the edge on late pass play. Got by the RT and forced RG3 to scramble and throw on the move.

GRAHAM – Made a great defensive play in the 1st Qtr. Fired into the backfield and knocked the crap out of Morris for a TFL. Friggin beautiful play. Played ROLB in the 4th. Totally bit on a run fake and let RG3 get outside too easily. Fired into the backfield on 3rd/2. FB went by him. I think Graham was designed to go hard inside on this play. Used a hard inside move on the next play and got inside the LT and pressured RG3. Beat Williams again to the inside on the next play, but RG3 got rid of the ball quickly. Drove the LT back to RG3 on pass play on the final drive.



RYANS – Led the team with 7 total tackles. Didn’t have any impact plays. Good stop of Morris on run when WAS was backed up near their own end zone. Squared up and made a strong tackle. Did a good job on screen pass in the 1st Qtr. Read the play and flowed out wide. Fought through block to help Cox push the RB out of bounds. Hustled out wide to tackle RG3 on 4th Qtr run play. Moved to his right and got the FB on 3rd/2 run, but couldn’t stop him short of the sticks. Tackled Garcon after short catch over the middle in the mid-4th. Got him down smoothly. Garcon has great RAC skills so it isn’t always easy to do that. Missed tackle of Helu on cutback run in the 4th.

GOODE – Interesting player. Had 5 total tackles, a sack and a PD. Pretty good play vs option. Scraped to the outside by design. Took on the TE, who acted as a blocker for RG3. That was good. Couldn’t get off the block to tackle RG3 for a loss, though. Flew up the field on Morris run. Got into the backfield, but couldn’t make the tackle. Got hold of FB on 3rd/1 run, but could not stuff him for a loss. Gave up the yard. Hustled out wide in pursuit of RG3 on scramble and got him out of bounds. Got a sack in the 1st Qtr. Lined up tight to the line. Cole slanted inside and Goode scraped off his backside. Blockers never saw him and he was able to get a hand on RG3, then drag him to the ground. Failed to knock Reed out of bounds after catch near the sideline. Gave up another 5 RAC yards. Used a delay blitz in the 3rd Qtr to get pressure and force an off-target throw. Blitzed up the middle in the late 3rd and forced rushed throw by RG3. Cox almost picked it off. Blitzed on 3rd Qtr run. Hit the OL, but didn’t go so well. Got thrown to the ground. Came on a delay blitz on the final drive and deflected a pass. Fell incomplete. Had good coverage of TE on 4th Qtr pass play. Ball went elsewhere. Blitzed up the middle on final drive. RB tried to stop him, but Goode knocked him back a step. That helped to flush RG3. Called for holding on 3rd/10 on final drive. Crucial mistake. Forced Helu out of bounds on pass play on final drive.

MATTHEWS – Played OLB. Got in on a couple of tackles.

KNOTT – Inactive.


ALLEN – Quiet game. Was only in on a couple of tackles. Made good tackle of Garcon on end around on opening drive. Took good angle and made form tackle. Came up and made a big hit on Garcon after catch along the sideline in the early 2nd Qtr. Tough shot. Blitzed off the edge in the early 2nd Qtr and forced RG3 to make a tough throw over him. Nate jumped to try and get the ball but couldn’t quite reach it. Couldn’t get off block by Paulsen on run play in the late 2nd Qtr and Morris ran through that area for a good gain.

CHUNG – Active game, but not always good. Got burned on opening drive. Bit on fake and didn’t contain backside on end around. Had a chance to tackle RG3 on scramble near his own end zone, but was a step slow in getting there. Tackled Morris downfield on several runs. Was around the ball a lot. Made a horrible play in the early 4th. The FB caught a pass down the sideline. Chung hustled over to make the tackle, but took a poor angle at the end and missed. Even worse, he hit Cole (in the head) and forced him to miss some plays. Had good coverage of Garcon on play on final drive. Undercut the route and forced RG3 to throw the ball wide. Had pretty good coverage of Garcon on deep ball. Chung stuck with him and didn’t let Garcon have the freedom to adjust to the ball easily. Pass was off target by a couple of feet.


COLEMAN – Came into the game when Chung got banged up. Helped tackle RG3 on early option play.



WILLIAMS – Not a strong showing. Lost track of Garcon on 3rd down play and gave up completion for 8 yds, 1st down. Failed to do anything good on 3rd/short. Covered his WR, but never noticed the RB had the ball. Cary could have made the play or at least kept Helu boxed in. Did neither. Beaten for good catch and run in the mid-3rd Qtr. Just looked a step slow on the play. Did make the tackle. Gave up 13-yd completion to Moss on 3rd/10. Was in off coverage. Slow break on the ball. Did make the tackle. Beaten by out ‘n up route on final drive, but the pass was off target. Drew a penalty while battling with Garcon in the 4th. Garcon was called for facemask. Shocking to get that called. Covered Garcon on 4th Qtr pass play, then let him go free down the field. Chung picked him up. I don’t know why Williams let him go. Didn’t see anyone else in that area. Gave up catch to Garcon on the final drive. Played off and was slow to break on the ball. Was in on 5 tackles and credited with a PD.

BOYKIN – Didn’t play a ton of snaps. WAS used 2 TE sets more than 3 WRs. When Boykin was in the game, he was pretty good. Was slow out of his break in the early 3rd and left Nick Williams wide open for easy catch on 3rd down. Moved the chains. Hit a RB after short catch in the early 3rd and knocked the ball loose. WAS got it back. Had tight coverage of Garcon on the final drive. Pass was thrown too wide and fell incomplete. Broke up 4th Qtr pass near the sideline. Had a chance for a pick-six, but wasn’t able to get both hands to the ball. Hustled downfield to push Garcon out of bounds after catch/run in the late 4th. Had good coverage of Robinson on pass play at the end of the game. Tried several moves, but Boykin stuck with him. Pass went into the end zone, but was incomplete. Was in zone coverage on the final play. Didn’t have anyone in his area, but kept his eyes active. Saw the lob throw and headed for the end zone. Jumped up and picked it off. Made sure his feet were down inbounds. Clutch play. Credited with 3 solo tackles, INT, FF and a PD. That’s excellent production.

CARMICHAEL – Mixed game. Too good to be bad, but still gave up catches, yards and a TD. Made terrific play on 3rd down in the late 1st Qtr. Skins used bunch formation. Eagles DBs lined up correctly and each took the right guy. RG3 tried to hit Roc’s guy over the middle, but Roc managed to get his hand in there and knock the ball away. Showed good anticipation in reading the play well and expecting the pass. Showed good body control in being able to reach and break it up without drawing a flag. Got in on tackle of Morris on run play to his side in the 3rd. Not bashful about contact. Threw Morris to the ground. Beaten to the inside by Moss on 3rd/long, but the pass was off target. Should have been a 1st down. Helped tackle RG3 on 4th Qtr run. Roc went low while Ryans went high. Gave up catch and run to Robinson in the 4th. Played off and got caught turning the wrong way. Gave up long TD to Robinson. Actually had good coverage on the play, but failed to make a play on the ball in the end zone. The WR located the ball and turned for it. Carmichael never saw it. Tackled Helu on run to his side in the late 4th. Beaten for 28 yds on 3rd/25. Moss went upfield and then cut hard to the inside. Carmichael just didn’t have the quickness to make that break and stay right on him. Excellent play design and execution by the Skins. Had good coverage of WR on final drive. Inside route. The WR tripped on Roc’s feet and the pass went flying by. Made a break on the ball on pass play late in the game. Missed the ball by inches. Led to a gain of 17 for Garcon. High risk. I have mixed feelings on that. Want players to be aggressive, but those 17 yards were almost very costly. Credited with 5 solo tackles.



JONES – Great game. Averaged 50.7 yards per punt. 4 of them were downed inside the 20. Had a 70-yd boomer late in the game that really backed up the Skins and helped the Eagles seal the win. NFC STs player of the week.

HENERY – 1 of 1 on FGs. 4 of his 5 KOs were touchbacks.

KOR – Boykin got the call as KOR. Had one go for 18 yards. Was hoping for better against such a poor STs unit.

PR – Damaris was inactive so DeSean was the PR. Made one odd catch, late in the 1st Qtr. Ball hopped and DJax caught it near a defender. Made me nervous. Why risk that? Honestly, DeSean made me nervous on a few punts. Doesn’t look smooth with some catches. Returned one punt for 6 yds.

– MISC –

* Chris Polk had good tackle on opening KO.

* Brandon Boykin downed a punt at the 2 in the 1st Qtr. Great hustle.

* Graham got pressure up the middle on punt late in the 1st Qtr.

* Nick Williams muffed a punt, but was able to recover. 3rd Qtr play.



88 Comments on “Detailed Game Review – PHI 24, WAS 16”

  1. 1 Jerry Pomroy said at 7:42 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Well I guess I’ll start it off. I love Shady but he pisses me off when he doesn’t run to meet the situation. I love that he’s shifty & I get that with the inside zone runs he’s got a free defender crashing, but dammit hit your holes. If you make it through into the 2nd level, then do your dancing. This dancing behind the line when unnecessary is unnerving. Would’ve been an even bigger issue had the ball come loose on one of the plays where he got stuffed for big losses in the backfield. Shady…Watch some tape on Terrell Davis. Hit the hole, make a move & off to the races. Yeah, you can shake & bake like only the great Barry Sanders, but do your shaking after you’ve busted through the holes your blockers are creating. I guarantee you’ll see more longer runs & TDs because of it.

  2. 2 R Mitchell said at 11:56 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    I understand what you’re saying but you have to understand that is how McCoy runs. That’s just his style. He’s not a Terrell Davis, Frank Gore, or an Alfred Morris type of runner, he shakes and dances to try and get his big yards. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. How many times over the years (since he’s been here) have we seen him get trapped in the backfield, spin out, and dust everybody for a 10-20-30 yard gain? That’s just the way he runs

  3. 3 Michael Jorden said at 3:29 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    It really is great that he can make something out of nothing and most often he’s successful – part of what makes him I would say our greatest weapon on oFF.

    The problem is it just isn’t necessary in some instances- especially when we’re working to grind out the clock. That should be trust your blockers, hit the hole and move the chains time.

    It’s probably what DeSean got on him about afterwards leading to the Cooper / LeSean barking. If that’s what happened, I like that DeSean said something to him about it.

  4. 4 ACViking said at 7:47 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    ATTENTION: Andy124 . . .

    Regarding your comment in the prior post about Roseman —

    You nailed it home that all we can do is evaluate him as someone “constructively responsible” for what the organization does on the personnel side (without knowing Pres. Smolenski’s veto power based on finances, if any).

    Just wanted to tip my hat to you.

  5. 5 Andy124 said at 8:37 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Thank you.

    So for my part, assume that praise and hope directed at Howie is of that’ Howie-as-a-symbol’ variety. Also, expect some lame puns using Howie in place of ‘How we’ at some point. If Bennie Logan makes the pro-bowl… “That’s just Howie draft!”

    For the sake of discussion, couldn’t we say that Lurie’s comments and decision to keep Howie provides some circumstantial evidence that Howie’s input was at the very least, less bad than his peers, and potentially, significantly better? This in no way conflicts with your point about not “knowing”, as a touch of circumstantial evidence gets us a long way away from “knowing” anything. Apologies for any laymen’s butchering of legal terms.

    And I don’t know what you and GEagle are talking about, but it’s making me want to make some lasagna. 🙂

  6. 6 ACViking said at 8:50 PM on November 22nd, 2013:


    Love the Howie puns.

    On substance, I don’t question Lurie’s trust in Roseman. As you rightly wrote, his title is strong circumstantial evidence of that fact.

    I was only driving at the absence of any clear indication as to who decides what and how, and when that all happened.

  7. 7 ACViking said at 8:01 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Re: Coaching Aphorisms


    You worked in the philosophical principles of both John Wooden and Woody Hayes in the same post.

    Can’t imagine two more polar opposites. Well done.

  8. 8 GEAGLE said at 8:12 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    A Zio…come va? Tutto apposto?

  9. 9 ACViking said at 8:15 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    tutto e buono. felice di vederti qui

  10. 10 GEAGLE said at 8:25 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    O finalmente portability I mie due cuccoli a casa..non mi rendezvous conte che avere cani cosi Govani e proprio come avere bambini apena natti…..tante gente mi a disrespettato Su PhillyMag per MESI perche mi piaceva Billy Davis! mi piaceva Nick FOles, e pensavo che aveviamo una difesa piu buona di quello che tuti pensando…la mi opinione era differente di quello che pensavamo tutti…e tuta la gente su quel sito mi anno tratato come se ero un Merda Tutto il Offseason…alora adesso che FOles,me la difesa mi anno vindicato…la devo mettere nel culo di tutti I stronzi che mi anno tratato come se ero stupido..

  11. 11 ACViking said at 8:34 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Ricordo che all’inizio di questa stagione, si erano impegnati a sostenere Davis. E non importava cosa hanno scritto. Mai fermare.

  12. 12 GEAGLE said at 3:40 PM on November 23rd, 2013:


  13. 13 ACViking said at 8:17 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Ho pensato che sei scomparso

  14. 14 GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    No no..sari sempre qua…dovevo imbarratzare quelli che mi anno tratato come un pezzo di Merda alora mo che FOles e la difesa mi ano vindicate dovevo buttariello in facca. Mo Sto qua

  15. 15 TommyLawlor said at 2:12 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    What? Don’t you remember when John Wooden punched the player from Clemson?

    Wooden was a genius. Woody less so, but still pretty smart.

  16. 16 GEAGLE said at 8:10 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Really nice review TY Law…but I have to really really disagree with you on one topic, the roughing penalty Cox was called for. And your desire for him to pull up…sorry but in that situation, I completely disagree. Im from the buddy Ryan school of defense: “The first 15yard penalty is on me”-Buddy Ryan…early in the game you don’t pull up, you BLAST the living snot out of him, take the penalty, set the tone, and let their QB KNOW right off the bat what type of day it’s gonna be!!!

  17. 17 TommyLawlor said at 8:16 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    It worked out well for us this time, but I’m never for giving a team 15 free yards.

  18. 18 GEAGLE said at 8:18 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    I’m really really enjoying the way both of our Line coaches have our young guys using their hands as violent weapons. I think for young players, it’s impressive how violent and technical their hand use is becoming on both sides of the can see that Violent Punch Tre Thomas was working with Lane on…Benny and curry have some violent hands for being so inexperienced…

    I’m blown away at how these college coaches came in and are Genuinly coaching guys up…impressive and exciting!

  19. 19 ACViking said at 8:20 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    I think there’s an argument to be made (and I’m making it) that college line coaches have much to offer in the way of instilling — and instilling — fundamentals in young and inexperienced players.

  20. 20 Mike Flick said at 8:21 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    As opposed to pulling guys out of the old folks home?

    Reid was calling guys out of retirement a little too often.

  21. 21 Anders said at 8:26 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Mudd actually coached a very good offensive line in 2011. Cant really blame Mudd for 4 out of 5 starters getting injured with little talent behind it.

  22. 22 theycallmerob said at 2:22 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Similar issue to what Juan Castillo is running into in Bmore. Both coaching styles worked well, but were very reliant on specific personnel types/traits. Mudd came in here with an All-Pro LT, very good yet flexible Herremans, and was able to nab Mathis and Kelce. But you’re correct, no depth.
    On the Ravens, the current OL (many of whom looked great in the playoffs last year) are really struggling in the run game, of which Castillo coordinates. They need a year or two before talent is in place. But like Mudd, injuries are also hurting.

    With so much young talent, particularly on the DL, I’m still glad proper technique is being instilled so tenaciously and obsessively. Clear to me that the immediate switch to the 2gap was well orchestrated from the start.

  23. 23 theycallmerob said at 2:16 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Tra and Duce are two guys I always hoped the organization kept around….glad to see they’re both coaching, but more importantly coaching in green and doing it well! Tra in particular (hired after internship with Kelly, if I remember right) is underrated. And to learn under Stoutland….
    Kelly needs to draft another flex-type guy (Rich Man’s Casey, or a Less Homicidal Hernandez). Then hire Westbrook as the position coach. That would complete my fantasy.

  24. 24 GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Absolutely….also, Bill Lazor should get a ton of Credit. I think Lazor is definitely going to be a HEADCoach some day… Really glad Andy didn’t poach Duce and Tre away…loving having Tre mentor Bamiro and Lane. Google this recent Tre interview where he is talking lanes recent progress, exciting stuff…
    Westbrook would be high on my dream list, but no player coaching addition could make me happier then Dawk as an assistant safety coach

  25. 25 ACViking said at 8:21 PM on November 22nd, 2013:


    I never expected to see you dipping into Woody Hayes’s well of wisdom.

  26. 26 ICDogg said at 8:26 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    “It would be similar to being the Detmer with the strongest arm.”

    Almost spit out my drink reading that.

  27. 27 TommyLawlor said at 11:41 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    I almost made a joke about the sexiest Lawlor or the smartest Kempski, but figured the Detmer line worked better.

  28. 28 GEAGLE said at 9:23 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Walterfootball updated his mock after this weeks games like he does every week..he doesn’t always change the player he mocks or the teams description..this week he changed everything about the eagles, not just the players he mocked towards us and this is what the Fool wrote:
    he didn’t mock an OLB to us til round 3 and that’s fine, but it’s his description that has me in generation Kill mode lol: “Trevor Riely OLB/DE Utah….Brandon Graham has predictably transitioned to the 3-4 quiet poorly, and Connar Barwin has been a mild dissapointment. eagles need help at OLB”

    How can people be so worthless?

    Im a 365 day a year draft freak, and I have no idea where to look for decent mocks. Like they are all so bad. you can’t read a round 1 mock without the eagles either taking a QB or a CB…

    Yet THIS past game against the Skins, we finally saw the value of having a menacing force coming off the edge with Cole having a monster game, and just how much that position can help our defense,,the problem is as good as Cole was, we all know we aren’t getting anything close to that type of production out of him consistently…it’s tricky because we have some coin tied up in that position with Trent n Brandon. Gonna be interesting to see how we go about it in the offseason….BUT SEEING Trent play like that this week just increased my desire to find the long term answer sooner rather then later

  29. 29 Anders said at 9:39 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    I do not care if its CB or OLB mocked to us in the 1st.

    Walterfootballs 2nd round pick for us is nice (I love Joyner, he reminds me of Honey Badger), but his description is so of base:

    “Philadelphia’s defense is terrible for many reasons, one of which is the safety position. Nate Allen is garbage, while Patrick Chung can’t stay healthy.”

    Yes Chung cant stay healthy, but he isnt even the starter anymore, Nate Allen isnt garbage anymore (he was) and no mentions of Earl Wolff?

    For me there is several potential DE/OLBs for us to take after Mack and Barr (I also think Murphy goes to high for us) and Trevor Riely is one of them. Riely got great size at 6-5 255, so same size as Barwin. My biggest problem with Riely is his age, he will be 26 next year.

    When talking about Barwin, check out his combine numbers:

    Barwin is a freak for that size.

  30. 30 Insomniac said at 11:30 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Do you not like Mosley or do you think he’s more of a ILB than OLB?

  31. 31 D3FB said at 2:07 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Mosley is going to play ILB in a 34 or Mike or Will in a 43. He can rush the passer a bit but he’s the top ‘backer in the country for a reason. OLB’s in a 34 are more versatile DE’s not true backers.

  32. 32 Insomniac said at 2:11 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Move Kendricks to OLB. Problem solved?

  33. 33 D3FB said at 2:28 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Would get killed in the run game. He’s a good blitzer but not a true rush backer.

  34. 34 GEAGLE said at 2:34 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Yeah I have a hard time envisioning Mosely as an olb

  35. 35 D3FB said at 2:19 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Personally I’m not a huge fan of Murphy. He’s an effective hustle player, but he isn’t the quick twitch kind of pass rusher I think we are looking for. Assuming Mack and Barr are gone, which if we make the playoffs is likely the next pack of candidates has plenty to love.

    Attachou, Van Noy, and Michael Sam would all be quality selections.

  36. 36 Anders said at 2:59 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Im not a fan of Von Noy, he cant set the edge and Im not a fan of Sam as a starting 3-4 OLB.

    I really like Attachou

  37. 37 D3FB said at 4:46 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I think part of his struggles in the run game are due to the fact Mizzou’s defense is lining both ends up in track stances like we had w/ the wide nine. Ideally he would be a bit taller but like you said then he would likely be a top 15 selection. I also have a few questions about his ability to drop in coverage as he can occasionally struggle to redirect within the confines of the backfield but again alot of that may stem from how agressive off the ball they have. In summary, elite first step, solid counter moves, underwhelming height, and questions about being able to handle non pass rushing aspects of the position.

    Attachou I took a peek at in the preseason and wasn’t impressed. Looked like a great 3rd OLB but not a starter. After watching him live against Clemson last week I went back to his film for this year, specifically the UNC tape and came away with a much different opinion. His burst is drastically improved. Awareness seems better. He beat Hurst (a top 50 pick) with his burst. Did some nice things in coverage.

    I understand the concerns about Van Noy. He definitely needs to show up to the combine having put on some weight. However he has the best hand usage of all the pass rushers in this class. He is also the most versatile. He could play all 4 LB spots for us. He has a ton of room to grow into his frame. I haven’t really paid a ton of attention to his run game (due to the fact he’s all over the field) but like with Sam part of that may be due to the defense. BYU plays that fast attacking style of defense and while he could do a better job compressing the block back inside he does a good job with leverage. Tackling needs some work but seems like a Kendricks type problem of just being out of control. Overall the kid just makes plays.

  38. 38 Insomniac said at 3:24 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    What do you two think of Hubbard and Jeffcoat?

  39. 39 D3FB said at 4:49 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Haven’t done extensive tape study on either. Hubbard has fallen off the map this year. Honestly for somebody with his size and athleticism that’s concerning. Haven’t seen any Jeffcoat other than casual watching the past few years. Seems like more of a speed ball DE who may latch on as a nickel rusher for somebody. Don’t think he posses enough of an arsenal to be consistently effective. Plus like Tommy I am a bit wary of Mack Brown Texas players.

  40. 40 GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Yea the safety description was as much if a joke as the OLB description…the reason I’m bothered by CBs mocked to us in round 1 is because it shows how inept they are….I don’t care where we pick in round 1, I have a hard time envisioning a better and safer CB prospect than an OLB in THIS draft class round 1….I hate the CBs in round 1…people think Roby and OLOMUi will be the first CB taken, but I think Verrett will be the first CB. Off the board….li like OLOMU but he is Brandon Boykins size which is a problem for me
    In today’s NFL, I just hate taking CBs in round 1…I see basically NO chance that a CB can come in as a rookie and make an impact..teams play their rookie CBs, but I can’t recall being impressed with the play of a rookie CB since probably Janoris Jenkins…and I also happen to think it’s one of the toughest positions to draft/evaluate…Pass Rusher is a MORE VALUED position, it’s easier to evaluate and there is a better chance a pass rusher is really ready to hold his own as a rook then a CB…there are no OLBs in this FA class, OLB is one of the strengths of this draft class, and there are NO top CB prospects who you would even think of drafting in the top 10…so I’d be pretty darn aggrivated if we took a CB in round 1 and left a good OLB on the board

    I saw a mock yesterday with Louis nix and Shede Hagemen falling to the beginning of round 2..WTF? can someone tell me how Nix is really viewed? I see him as high as the 5th pick, and now I see him as low as early round 2, anyone have a clue what his true value is at the moment? How will his combine stack up with dontari’s?

  41. 41 D3FB said at 4:44 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Nix is missing the rest of the season w/ his knees. Expect him to free fall in mocks.

  42. 42 GEAGLE said at 2:43 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Geez…I didn’t remember BRAMA bull having such a freak combine. Good stuff

  43. 43 GEAGLE said at 2:45 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    And again, props on Nate..I was wrong. Thought the damage was done and it was too late for him, like a dog that needs to be put to sleep…
    Anders, who do you view as the most credible mock site?

  44. 44 D3FB said at 2:05 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I don’t completely hate Reilly. Unfortunately he is a bit raw as a pass rusher at the moment and his skill set is more similar to Barwin than what we are look for to replace Trent.

  45. 45 GEAGLE said at 2:13 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Don’t hate him either.. hating the description for why we need OLB,,if Barwin is a dissapointment then I must be clueless.

    This time last year:
    Manti Teo’s girlfriend exsistent and he was thought of as a top 10 pick
    Miller was thought of as a top 5 pick lol JOKE!
    Dion and Ziggy were thought of in the 20s but were moving up
    Geno was a top 10 pick
    Lane wasn’t even thought of as a first rounder

    THe point is today there are guys we think we have no shot at because they will get picked so high, who we can end up finding on the board when we pick in May…there are also players we look at with our #20 pick(assumption) who will climb into the top 10 by May…by the time the draft process unfolds there will even be guys from round two climbing into round 1 and vice versa…I wonder who falls, who rises and how much they fall or rise from where they are thought of today..

    I want to look at 5 updated mocks! and put together a consensus mock, copy it down…and then come April, see how much the mocks have changed since mid november

  46. 46 A_T_G said at 10:37 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    The halftime clock management that baffled me was by WAS. They get a third down stop with about 7 seconds left, call a time out, fair catch it, then kneel on the ball? What an odd string of decisions, particularly when their special teams are decidedly unspecial and their returner was on the practice squad last week.

  47. 47 TommyLawlor said at 11:40 PM on November 22nd, 2013:

    Yeah, I didn’t get that either.

  48. 48 A Roy said at 9:01 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    The time out could’ve been in case they blocked the punt…

  49. 49 Philip Soloninka said at 12:22 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    The Graham TFL looked like a soft-core version of the Clowney hit. Which is still an amazing play, BLEW IT UP!

  50. 50 Vick or Nick said at 12:44 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Chris Polk needs to be our closer back.

    He runs downhill with power and most importantly hits the hole thats there.
    If there’s a yard there, Polk will get it.

    Hopefully Chip realizes this.

  51. 51 Mike Flick said at 8:24 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Lets not go overboard. Shady is the leading rusher for a reason.

    Re-watch the GB game.

  52. 52 Vick or Nick said at 7:49 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I’m not opposed to Shady closing games.

    I just think Polk can do better than Bryce Brown in short yardage/end of game/give Shady a breather.

  53. 53 Jason said at 1:15 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I’m new to the website, could someone fill me in on the “slow. Lazy.”

  54. 54 Philip Soloninka said at 3:13 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I think he’s just being sarcastic, but it could be some super secret reference that went over my head as well…

  55. 55 TommyLawlor said at 11:55 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Just a sarcastic joke. Celek looked faster on that screen than any play I’ve ever seen from him.

  56. 56 SteveH said at 12:33 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Evidence that Chip Kelly’s super secret sports science methods are working? Or was Brent just tweaking at the time?

  57. 57 D3FB said at 2:33 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Do we know the dynamics of the “war room” on draft day? I know alot of teams do it differently. Some its only the head coach, owner, and GM. Others it seems like a damn sweet 16 with all the scouts and assistant coaches and even high level sponsors.

  58. 58 bentheimmigrant said at 6:40 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I like how Dallas do it… Load the room, draft a low-ceiling center that you had a 2nd round grade on, and then celebrate like you just won something.

  59. 59 Dominik said at 6:49 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Loved Kempskis reaction to it after the draft. 😀

  60. 60 Anders said at 7:22 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I thought Dallas was crazy, but I gotta give them. The pick who could have been Floyd turned into Frederick and Williams. So far Floyd have done nothing and Frederick is a very good center and Williams is a good upcoming WR. I bet nobody in Dallas is unhappy with those two picks right now.

  61. 61 bentheimmigrant said at 8:03 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I don’t really have an issue with the picks, it’s more that they came out the next day and said they had a second round grade on him. So they admitted it was a reach, but celebrated like they got the steal of the draft. And we all know where a “reach for need” draft philosophy ends up…

  62. 62 Anders said at 8:14 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    100%. For me it was also more the process than the picks them self. They traded away when Floyd their 10th overall graded player was there and then traded down and ended up with a player with a 2nd round grade. Also I think they was lucky with Williams. I have no clue how he dropped that far.

  63. 63 bentheimmigrant said at 8:22 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    No doubt. Hindsight is of course the best draft board, and looking back at the picks it may look like they came out ok… but that’s more luck than skill, and is completely unsustainable. I’d be furious if Howie was doing that.

  64. 64 Anders said at 8:35 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    100%. As we have seen with the Dallas team, they are hitting on some super stars, but not really much else.

    I rather we have a GM who trusts the process, that way you get quality drafts like the last two instead of a hit or miss draft

  65. 65 dropscience said at 2:07 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Don’t forget the part where part of their board gets published for mass consumption. That’s my favorite part.

  66. 66 T_S_O_P said at 2:48 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    A couple of thoughts:

    I still love the turbo mode setting in Celek’s helmets, i.e. Catch ball, adjust helmet to turbo mode, jets on, woooooosh. He may do that regularly ( adjust helmet after the catch) but I haven’t really seen it. In your description Tommy, is there some love of The Office showing?

    Secondly, I wonder if Curry’s development, as much as Logan’s made Soap surplus to requirements? On the back of that, would Graham of benefitted more from bulking up rather than slimming down?

  67. 67 bentheimmigrant said at 6:38 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I think the adjusting the helmet was he suddenly realised he hadn’t done one of his chin straps… But I much prefer the turbo mode explanation.

  68. 68 Anders said at 7:23 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Isnt it a penalty to not use both chin straps?

  69. 69 bentheimmigrant said at 8:01 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I think so, but I’m pretty sure I saw one of them loose. Plus, they’ve got two clips on each side, so it was technically still done, I think. That, or I hallucinated the whole thing.

  70. 70 Mike Flick said at 8:24 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    The problem is there is a 4 week recharge rate.

  71. 71 Joseph Dubyk said at 12:09 PM on November 23rd, 2013:


  72. 72 A Roy said at 8:58 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Historically, he’s gone into turbo mode right before the ball gets there, making a catch impossible. This sequence is better.

    I think Logan AND Curry developing was coupled with Sopo not doing chit in there were all factors.

  73. 73 Dominik said at 6:38 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Re: from the Howie post

    “I’m finishing up the game review (crazy week) and I wanted to throw something short and quick out there”

    I don’t think you have to (kind of) apologize to us if the Game Review is a little late, Tommy. We all here appreciate your work, we all know that it is a lot of work to do the kind of review you do, we all know you have a personal life.

    There hasn’t to be a “crazy week” for you to take a little time with the DGR. It’s all good, as long as she is posted eventually. 😉

    Thanks for your work.

  74. 74 bentheimmigrant said at 6:47 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    OT, but…
    Your daily Jerruh laugh:


    So, I assume this is his way of setting up the end-of-season staff change. Cause it certainly isn’t his fault the players he picked aren’t getting it done.

  75. 75 Anders said at 7:36 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Lets all hope he lives to be 150

  76. 76 SteveH said at 12:32 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    This is priceless. Jerrah is the best thing that’s ever happened to the Cowboys.

  77. 77 RIP Worms said at 6:51 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Nice write-up, but should have been posted Monday. Slow. Lazy.

  78. 78 A Roy said at 8:54 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Funny how the DGR seems less important after a win. Dissecting a loss feels more normal. Especially after last year.

  79. 79 TommyLawlor said at 11:57 AM on November 23rd, 2013:


  80. 80 The Linc – Nick Foles Over Teddy Bridgewater? | Sports Feedr said at 7:41 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    […] Detailed Game Review – PHI 24, WAS 16 – Tommy Lawlor, Iggles BlitzWhile the results weren’t pretty, the Eagles did find a way to win. There is something to be said for that. When we see the Eagles win ugly, we tend to pick apart what happened. If we see the Patriots or Packers win an ugly game, our response is generally something more like “Good teams do that. They just find a way to win.” […]

  81. 81 Joseph Dubyk said at 10:21 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    i always have the debate about who was better…westbrook or shady? I always have to say Westbrook because he literally had the best field of vision, intelligence, amazing receiving skills and pass blocking skills…shady may be the better runner but I wish he ran with more intelligence sometimes.

  82. 82 Anders said at 11:11 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Westbrook was the more complete back, but Shady can do things Westbrook couldnt, also Shady is much more durable.

  83. 83 Joseph Dubyk said at 11:57 AM on November 23rd, 2013:

    It’s more like Westbrook could do things that Shady couldn’t. Teams had to GAME PLAN around westbrook because he was that versatile. Shady is more durable, I’ll give you that, but Westbrook was the ultimate weapon.

  84. 84 Michael Jorden said at 2:43 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    Teams are game planning around Shady. I liked Westbrooks receiving of course, and he had a great stiff arm. I also think he was better going up the middle / over the pile for short yardage touchdowns, but maybe that’s my bias because I personally liked him better as a player. Shady is in my opinion much more dangerous in space and as a runner in general.

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 2:56 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    I adore shady, but still have a hard time viewing him as the weapon that Westbrook was, maybe I’m biased..the timely punt return, the play where he ignored his stats and stopped short of scoring what could gave been an easy TD so that we could kill the clock. Watching him line up all over the field….just a special player. Feel blessed to have seen Brian’s entire career..
    But it’s so darn upsetting that we didn’t get to see what Westbrook could hAve done in this offense..Andy got so much out if Brian in a pass happy Westcoast offense…Andy was a gReat coach, but it hurts to think what Chip could have done with Donovan,Westbrook and TO…yikes

  86. 86 Gary said at 6:27 PM on November 23rd, 2013:

    “Teams are game planning around Shady.”

    I have to disagree. Teams game plan around our running game, not Shady himself.

  87. 87 Joseph Dubyk said at 8:39 AM on November 24th, 2013:

    Teams are just stacking the box and making Foles beat them… Westbrook had the whole team account for him because he could beat you so many ways. He could beat you in the slot, had safeties “spy” him, make sure he wasn’t slipping out on the screens, etc…

  88. 88 AnirudhJ said at 10:33 AM on November 24th, 2013:

    “When we see the Eagles win ugly, we tend to pick apart what happened. If we see the Patriots or Packers win an ugly game, our response is generally something more like ‘Good teams do that. They just find a way to win.'”

    This is exactly right. I think it’s true because those teams have sustained greatness and so when they win ugly, it feels less like a fluke than when the Eagles do, but if you believe that this is a fundamentally good team – which I’m starting to (and note, good not great) – then you get to take this win as a win and not as a fluke.