Posted: April 3rd, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 146 Comments »

WR Odell Beckham, Jr. could be the Eagles best choice at pick 22. He is a good fit for Chip Kelly’s offense and a very gifted, athletic prospect. He would also be good value in that range. I’d love for the Eagles to find some way to get Sammy Watkins from Clemson, but that’s just not happening. He should be a Top 5 pick and the Eagles aren’t likely to sell out to move up for him. Beckham is more of a 20 to 30 guy in terms of value.

Beckham is 5-11, 198. That’s not huge, but it is a good, solid build. He has the kind of strength and physicality that Kelly wants from his WRs. Beckham is a good blocker on runs and screen passes. He will engage defenders and work to sustain blocks. He’ll occasionally catch a DB off guard and “ear-hole” him.

Beckham isn’t a player that goes down on first contact. He is deceptively strong. You don’t see a huge guy, but tacklers do have to work to get him to the ground. He’s able to handle contact off the line of scrimmage and downfield. Beckham will work the middle of the field as a route runner and after the catch. He’s not shy about contact.

Kelly needs WRs that have good RAC skills and Beckham certainly is gifted in that area. He is elusive and has good vision. He has an excellent burst and good speed. Beckham ran a 4.43 at the Combine. That speed shows up on game tape. He’s not a guy like DeSean that can just outrun every defender, but Beckham beats most guys. His burst allows him to create some initial separation and makes him dangerous any time the ball is in his hands.

Beckham has good hands. He plucks the ball naturally. You will see him make some circus catches from time to time. He’s able to adjust to errant passes, especially on short throws. He can go down for the ball or reach up high. Beckham is very good on slant passes. He can reach out and snag the ball on the move. He has outstanding body control, which is a highly underrated key to being a good receiver.

LSU runs somewhat of a pro style offense and you see that in Beckham’s game. He runs good routes. So many WRs run mostly bubble screens and go routes. Beckham runs the full route tree. He makes crisp cuts and moves fluidly down the field. He also moves around the field. You see him in the slot and out wide. You see him right and left, short side and wide side. Beckham is comfortable in multiple roles.

Beckham was used as a runner and PR/KOR. He is a weapon with the ball in his hands and LSU wanted to take advantage of that. He had a pair of PR scores in 2012 and averaged 26 yards per KOR in 2013.

Beckham started 9 games as a Freshman and was a full time starter in 2012 and 2013. He finished his career with 143 receptions. 2013 was his best year. Beckham was 59-1152-8. That was good for 19.5 yards per catch, which shows you his big play ability.

Combine numbers:

40 – 4.43
BP – 7 reps
VJ – 38.5 inches
BJ – 10’2′
3C – 6.69
SS – 3.94

You may wonder about the 7 reps. Beckham has long arms (32 3/4). Doing bench reps for a WR with long arms is tough. By comparison, Brandin Cooks is 5-10, 189. His arms are 30 3/4 and he did 16 reps.

Beckham would fit right in with the Eagles. He could play the slot a lot and let Mac and Cooper focus on playing outside. Beckham could help as a RS right away. His RAC skills would make him effective on screens. Kelly talked about the importance of being able to beat man coverage in a recent interview. Beckham is a good athlete, but also can use his route-running skills to get some separation from DBs.

In terms of a pro comparison, he might remind you of Victor Cruz, minus the awful salsa dancing of course.

Some highlights for your viewing pleasure.


146 Comments on “Beckham”

  1. 1 dislikedisqus said at 7:26 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I’d love to see them get him but they have to believe he has the patience to endure 6,000 questions asking him to compare himself to DJax.

    It is hard to see them trade up for a WR after just letting DJax go so I think Evans won’t be here, sadly.

  2. 2 Charlie Kelly said at 7:36 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    so now we will shy away from getting a WR because we released our best WR and dont want another good WR to respond to questions about being compared to desean?? Thats a head scratcher.

  3. 3 Charlie Kelly said at 7:37 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    if thats the case lets fire chip and howie now so that bullish doesnt happen. lmfao

  4. 4 Robyn said at 8:06 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Well at least we know Brandin Cooks won’t have that problem.

  5. 5 dislikedisqus said at 7:33 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Yeah, that was a cool interview. Guy has the right mental makeup to step in, for sure. And those numbers are insane. And that first RAC clip – wow!

  6. 6 Charlie Kelly said at 7:32 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I like Odell more then cooks. Odell is a legit outside WR. Cooks not so much. And the way odell competes for the ball in the air at his size, kind of reminds me of steve smith.

  7. 7 Anthony Hart said at 8:26 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    You’re reading too much into Cooks height, he’s about as tall as DeSean. Watch his game video, he plays outside and wins vs double and sometimes triple coverage.

  8. 8 Charlie Kelly said at 5:53 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    nah its not his height, its his catching radius… and i have watched his game video. He is a slot guy in the NFL.

  9. 9 ezgreene said at 7:32 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I have a hard time imagining a WR in the first. Doesn’t seem like Kelly valued WR at Oregon, and there’s two starters firmly in place.

  10. 10 Charlie Kelly said at 7:34 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I think thats has more to do with the fact that he couldnt get the top WRs to go oregon. He is in the NFL now and great WRs takes the heat off the running game

  11. 11 anon said at 12:06 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I think he saw how we got dominated last year in man coverage. I think he’ll put more of a premium on having someone that can do that consistently. But you’re right, we also need pass rush and i think that’s something that he really values.

  12. 12 lewis don said at 7:31 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Who in this draft is the best at beating man coverage at the Wr position?

    Odell my pick for Wr for us in the draft, and cooks would def be another one id like to see out there.

  13. 13 nicolajNN said at 7:36 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    And as a bonus he should be able to provide some serious competition for Henery

  14. 14 Charlie Kelly said at 7:40 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    We need a flat out upgrade on our kicker. the kid cant get it into the end zone.. thats a problem

  15. 15 lewis don said at 7:32 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I dont trust henery…Miss the old akers…

  16. 16 mike5832 said at 7:38 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I like cooks a lot. I have been watching his tape all year. its unfortunate that the desean thing got so out of hand….but cooks or Lee would be the best fit. hands down. cooks was the best WR in my opinion, first team all American, Biletnikoff award winner (excuse my spelling) overall beast.

  17. 17 Charlie Kelly said at 7:43 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Odell is the better pure WR.

  18. 18 mike5832 said at 7:50 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    true. I just went and watched more of Odell. can’t decide who is the better playmaker. Odell is a beast with YAC but I wanna say that Cooks still looks better overall to me. just my opinion

  19. 19 Charlie Kelly said at 7:56 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    i want a WR that can make plays and snatch the ball in the air, since throwing accurate catchable balls is foles strength, and thats odell. (between odell and cooks)

  20. 20 lewis don said at 7:33 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Yeah Odell I believe has better hands. but cooks toughness and quickness. Id like to see us draft them both.

  21. 21 ceedubya9 said at 7:49 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    If I’m looking for a DeSean replacement, then I’m getting cooks all day. Otherwise, Bekham seems like a better overall fit for what Kelly might want to do. Still, they may want to just trade up for Evans. If he gets down to 12-15 I wonder if they might try to make a move…

  22. 22 anon said at 12:05 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Looking at the breakdown of these guys Lee looks terrible compared to the other top 4 prospects he’s grouped with. His drop percentage is up near 12% which is dumb high (landry is at 2.5%, most WRs are 4-6%), he also ran very few deep routes, which could be a product of the offense, but could be a product of his skill set.

    Cooks is a great YAC/RAC receiver. But he beasted the combine so might go higher than ODB, though they’ve both been getting lots of praise.

    Landry is more of a possession receiver and all around BEAST. If we can get ODB and Landry we’d be too stocked at WR but Foles would probably be the best QB in the league.

  23. 23 lewis don said at 7:34 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    by too stoked you mean having too many reliable targets?

  24. 24 ceedubya9 said at 7:51 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Give me someone like Latimer to go with my ODB.

  25. 25 jshort said at 7:48 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

  26. 26 jshort said at 7:51 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    That puts closure on Djax….and what they might be looking for in a WR.

  27. 27 Charlie Kelly said at 7:59 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    no it doesnt, thats a flawed article based on targets and the “trust who ever is in charge of team(chip)” article.. lol..

    Desean creates space for players when he doesnt get the ball…

    “Darren Sproles can do a lot of what DeSean can do on underneath routes, but with surer hands and better route running skills.”

    No darren can NOT do a lot what desean can do.. lmfao cant even belive they said that

  28. 28 jshort said at 8:06 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    should have put…..That puts closure on Djax for me. It’s done, he’s not coming back and he wasn’t worth the money ….To me anyway.

  29. 29 Charlie Kelly said at 8:07 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    wasnt worth the money? smfh

  30. 30 Malcolm Jones said at 8:39 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    The reason they say not worth the money is because I think we are leaning towards a New Orleans offense; where no one man is the big play guy but everyone has big play capability. With Desean, he is the big play guy but when he is gone it seems like the offense falls. Next year our offense wont rely on the big play WR, but will be a pick ya poison offense. IF you shut down or double team Maclin, Cooper should prevail, and if you shut down Coop, Ertz will murder you, and if you shut down Ertz, Benn, Mccoy or sproles will get you. So in this offense the WR is less valuable than a smart QB who can spread it around and a coach whose system lets you plug the next man in and get production.

  31. 31 Charlie Kelly said at 8:43 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    jimmy graham is about to break the bank in NO.

    and you mentioned Benn.. uhhh.. smh

  32. 32 Malcolm Jones said at 8:44 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Benn hasn’t got to see a down and isn’t special by himself, but when he is put with the right guys, he can be a really good piece in the slot.

  33. 33 Charlie Kelly said at 8:50 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Benn hasnt seen a down because is freakishly injury prone.. dont even count on that guy, pretend he isnt even there. they guy didnt even make it to a preseason game for cchrist sake

  34. 34 anon said at 11:54 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Dude enough — i’m as annoyed as anyone but what’s the point? I was really excited to talk about Jarvis Landry but there’s a whole page of this tired DeSean stuff.

    Yes I agree he’s a great WR, i think people are undervaluing him, i think he’ll be hard to replace but he’s gone. Just like when you break up with a g/f it sucks, but then you move on and find some other chick to obsess about which what we’re trying to do.

  35. 35 Charlie Kelly said at 1:07 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    lmfao.. you posted this comment in response to me talking about the ghost arrealious benn? really bro? like for real? Wasnt even talking about desean.. jesus christ.

  36. 36 MichaelFloyd84 said at 7:53 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I’d rather not spend a first round pick on a sub 6 foot WR. I’m tired of stalling out in the redzone while watch other teams with monstrous size WRs score easily.

  37. 37 Charlie Kelly said at 8:01 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    yeah but odell has a 39 inch vert, you know of when we had a WR like that? yeah me either. Odell can be a factor in the rezone because of this and his strong hands. But yes i would LOVE to have kelvin over odell

  38. 38 TommyLawlor said at 8:19 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Cooper and Maclin are your RZ threats. Both guys are good in there.

    And Beckham is almost 200 pounds. He can play in traffic.

  39. 39 Insomniac said at 10:01 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    But is he better than this guy?

  40. 40 MichaelFloyd84 said at 5:44 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Cooper, Ertz I understand. But self tacklin Jeremy Maclin isn’t a guy that will fight to get into the end zone or catch a fade over a corner. He plays much smaller than his size. What’s so wrong with wanting a 1st round WR to be Gordon/Dez/Julio/Marshall/Demaryious/Jordy sized. Every other team drafts beasts but we have to make due with undersized guys and being bad in the redzone is looked at like its a coincidence.

  41. 41 holeplug said at 9:18 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    RZ won’t be as big a problem b/c Foles is QB now

  42. 42 Charlie Kelly said at 9:28 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    pretty much, but man imagine Foles and kelvin in the red zone.. we would be dominate!!! and thats what its about, not being good, or even very good, but dominate!!

  43. 43 Charlie Kelly said at 9:29 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    PLUS kelvin can get down field

  44. 44 mksp said at 7:49 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Kelvin also runs sloppy routes and has questionable hands and is like 24 years old. No thanks.

  45. 45 Charlie Kelly said at 5:57 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    He is a raw route runner and has drops, but he can make all of the catches, his hands arnet questionable, his concentration needs to improve. But he can play the slot and block, i have seen him line up in the slot and block rushing LBs. Chip will LOVE THAT!!!

  46. 46 ceedubya9 said at 7:55 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Redzone stalling was as much of a problem when Foles was in there in that second half of the season. Like Tommy said, Cooper is big and so are your TEs. Maclin has proven to be a reliable redzone threat in the past. Size is good, but good routes also helps down there too. I think Bekham would be good down there.

  47. 47 Charlie Kelly said at 8:12 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    The thing tha pisses me off the most is if desean was 6’3 210, with the same exact career, eagles fans would worship him as god.. he has always been the underdog because of his size. thats why i always though he was perfect for us in philly. because we are always the underdogs.

  48. 48 Malcolm Jones said at 8:34 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    My problem with Desean is he can give you Miracle in the meadowland

    s II or give you the New Orleans Saints play off game…..The Highs are great, but the lows are crippling.

  49. 49 Charlie Kelly said at 8:35 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    yeah.. same thing goes for dam near every player that has ever played. lol.. not everyone is consistently great. And desean helped us in the saints game.

  50. 50 Malcolm Jones said at 8:42 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    That is exactly why you can’t just depend on having a desean, because when desean is gone so is your offense…but in New Orleans every year a new Wr was plugged in (some no name guy) and was productive. That is what we are doing here.

  51. 51 Charlie Kelly said at 8:44 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    No it was colston and jimmy gramham. how do you forget about jimmy freaking gramham and colston? smh

  52. 52 Malcolm Jones said at 8:52 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Jimmy played in the superbowl? I remember Adrian Arrington, Colston, Henderson, Meachem, Moore and Roby. Shockey was still the TE…my point is alot of no name guys won the trophy.

  53. 53 Charlie Kelly said at 8:55 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    So you are talking about years ago… lol.. and every year an unknown guy was plugged in? they plugged jimmy graham in.. lol.. and colston was a no name? shocky too? false. how many super bowls did we win when reggie brown was our top WR? zero.

  54. 54 Malcolm Jones said at 9:06 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    The point is Kelly feels like his system is what made Cooper have a break out year, its what made Mccoy win the Rushing title, and it was what made Desean have the outstanding year he had. And if it was indeed the system….then forget the names and plug in any WR who is atleast has good hands,good YAC, good routes, and blocking ability and we should keep rolling. WHy pay Desean when I can pay Meachem, Moore, Henderson and get production spread out. When it’s time for Desean to get paid he is going to go to the money.. when Cooper gets paid, he knows the system benefits him and is the cheaper option thus long term success over short term success (great guys who leave for the pay).

  55. 55 Charlie Kelly said at 9:11 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Soooooo… “plug in any WR who is atleast who has good hands,good YAC, good routes, and blocking ability” So plug in any WR that is very good. lol.. Those guys you mentioned cant even do all of that. The point is the saints have jimmy graham/sproles/kenny stills creating space. and with a HoF QB pulling the trigger. kelly needs a WR that will make defenses draw coverage to them to open up the running game.

  56. 56 Malcolm Jones said at 9:14 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Jimmy/sproles/and kenny barely got pass us and got murdered by the champs….Graham cant do it alone and sproles was thought to be replacable by the saints who have thomas and ingram. The QB runs the show… the good ones make any WR good. (see Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers)

  57. 57 Charlie Kelly said at 9:17 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    so this grand scheme/system you want applied that saints do, got murdered by the champs, and thats what you want/expect the eagles to do?? smh..

  58. 58 A_T_G said at 8:52 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Is it wrong that I read “smh” as an invitation?

  59. 59 ceedubya9 said at 7:57 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    It helps having that guy Drew Brees something or rather…

  60. 60 Malcolm Jones said at 8:43 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    He helped after a bad/average db was put in the game.

  61. 61 Charlie Kelly said at 8:46 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Like i said he helped.. lol.. Good CBs slow down good WRs all the time. i guess cowboys should cut dez sionce our DBs (sconces and flecth) got to him pretty good..cmon now.

  62. 62 holeplug said at 9:16 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Dez torched our secondary in both games last year

  63. 63 Charlie Kelly said at 9:19 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    no he didnt, we held in check for most of those games… he broke a couple that inflated the stats.. the 1st game he saw 17 targets… only got 8 of them.

  64. 64 Jerry Pomroy said at 9:23 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    DeSean is gone brother. Not every player we look at as a possible WR need be compared to DeSean. That’s like your girlfriend breaking up with you and ask you do is compare the new girls you meet to your ex. It just never works. Fresh slate, new day.

    I like ODB a lot, but like Jordan Mathews even better.

  65. 65 Charlie Kelly said at 9:27 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Im not comparing him to any WRs that we are looking at.. Where did u even get that from?

    I like Jordan Mathews as well. Dude has a great work ethic, underrated long speed and those huge hands chip loves.

  66. 66 Jerry Pomroy said at 9:28 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    That was actually meant for a different comment. My bad.

    The Jordan Mathews was meant for you.

  67. 67 Charlie Kelly said at 9:29 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    ahhh gotcha

  68. 68 Jerry Pomroy said at 9:35 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I think Mathews is probably the most complete WR in draft both in skill, natural ability and physical measurements. I don’t know why exactly yet, but he reminds me of TO.

  69. 69 Charlie Kelly said at 9:38 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    He could be, but that short area qucikness doesnt seem to be there, he def has the straight line speed. and while he has the huge hands and size, he doesnt seem to have the elite body control and doesnt go up and pluck the ball as often as you’d like.. so that kinda puts some other WRs in front of him.. but he will be a good pick up for us or anyone else..

  70. 70 Charlie Kelly said at 9:31 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    oh and ODB!!! what a nickname!! ahahahaha love it!!

  71. 71 meteorologist said at 8:34 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    6’3 210 people don’t do what desean can do. Just can’t seem to explode the same. Like in the Miracle punt return.

    I appreciate him as the special talent he is. Doesn’t mean we don’t move forward as a team

  72. 72 Charlie Kelly said at 8:38 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    ok make it 6’1// smh..

  73. 73 anon said at 11:47 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I remember that game. Thought it was over so took the g/f to the bedroom for recreational activities and missed it. Now i watch every minute — even of the Dallas game.

  74. 74 meteorologist said at 4:24 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I remember listening to it on the radio in the car. Got home pretty much just in time to see the punt return. Incredible feeling… I watched it through one time, but now I just skip to the part where we make our comeback.

  75. 75 ceedubya9 said at 8:01 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I was watching in a TGI Friday’s, and then when I saw it get out of hand, my wife and I left to go do other things. Got back home to see the score tied and DeSean about to receive a punt. After getting over the shock of how we got to this point, I remember telling my wife “It would be funny if he ran this back for a touchdown.” Ha, man what a game.

  76. 76 SteveH said at 9:25 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Didn’t we have a thread where you could air your grievances and move on? Let it go dude.

  77. 77 Charlie Kelly said at 9:31 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Nah… cant/wont untill the eagles give me a solid reason to let it go… they havent as of yet.. maybe you should slow down on the kool-aid

  78. 78 A_T_G said at 9:31 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    And that is your choice, but go post in that thread.

  79. 79 Charlie Kelly said at 9:35 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    ill post where i want..

  80. 80 Caveman_Bob said at 10:13 PM on April 3rd, 2014:


  81. 81 SteveH said at 11:20 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    The whole idea of that other thread was to give you a place to vent, so that you don’t fill up threads that aren’t about DSJ with DSJ talk.

  82. 82 Charlie Kelly said at 1:10 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Its not a “thread” its a post, an article. And i left that comment on this article because its new and relevant to what i was thinking at the moment.. , who goes back to old articles and leaves comments.. then no one will read them… and i talked about a lot more then desean in here.. why dont to stop telling me what to do and actually add something to the convo..

  83. 83 Malcolm Jones said at 9:34 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Kelly doesnt feed the media…you will probably never get your answer…if you ask me…the charity event where all the players said the same thing was Chip kelly giving you your answer in advance.

  84. 84 Charlie Kelly said at 9:35 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Well thats good enough.

  85. 85 Cafone said at 2:04 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Maybe they have… They signed a damn good receiver that we didn’t have last year: Jeremy Maclin. Remember his numbers were always affected by having Jackson lining up next to him. Across from Riley Cooper in a Chip Kelly offense there’s no reason he can’t put up numbers similar to Jackson’s last season.

    In fact, he may put up bigger numbers. This article on BGN raises an interesting point. Maclin’s numbers went up with Foles rather than Vick at QB, Jackson’s went down:

  86. 86 Charlie Kelly said at 2:13 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    No they havent. His numbers were inflated due to having jackson on the otherside. lol.. And theres a reason he cant put up numbers that desean did.. he isnt as talented.

    And that article is

  87. 87 laeagle said at 2:17 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    HEY! I HAVE A GREAT IDEA! I’ll post after every one of your posts, and say, “Yeah! I agree with you!”

    Would that get annoying? Probably. A whole lot of posts with me saying the same thing over and over.

    Continue that thought exercise…

  88. 88 Charlie Kelly said at 2:22 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Do what you want. doesnt bother me at all.

    and if you are trying to say i post the same thing over and over again, guess u didnt read the comments of me talking about other WR prospects. Step ya game up buddy

  89. 89 eagleyankfan said at 8:23 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    did you eat paint chips as a kid?

  90. 90 D3FB said at 12:26 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    I don’t know why but this made me laugh harder than I should have.

  91. 91 Charlie Kelly said at 5:53 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    thanks for adding to the convo.

  92. 92 eagleyankfan said at 6:32 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    It’s a quote from a movie. Just having fun.
    It wouldn’t matter if DJ was 10′. It had to do with his attitude, not his size or his play or his fondness of the Yankees(ok, that I made up)

  93. 93 Daniel Lee said at 8:35 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Read some about Beckham and his inability to beat press coverage and disappearing in games at times. Didn’t watch enough but anyone can speak to this?

  94. 94 Charlie Kelly said at 8:38 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    where did u read it at?

  95. 95 Daniel Lee said at 12:04 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Kyle at igglesnest. Here’s the twitter link

  96. 96 Charlie Kelly said at 1:15 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Thank you. Although not sure i agree with him.

  97. 97 Anders said at 4:10 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I disagree with him. He is cherry picking something he is not doing with other prospects. Every college prospect will rip of majority of stats versus lesser talent.

    By his token Khalil Mack only has 1 game with production against NFL talent, rest of tape is either versus crap competition or him been a non factor versus Baylor

  98. 98 mksp said at 7:51 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Kyle isn’t great at……this.

    ODB shows more NFL skills (route running, hands) than Evans does, just doesn’t have the physical talent.

  99. 99 GermanEagle said at 8:59 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Any advise of how to get David out of my mind everytime I am reading the name Beckham is much appreciated.

  100. 100 Insomniac said at 9:25 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Watch more American football.

  101. 101 GermanEagle said at 9:59 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Having lived in London for 6 1/2 years and being born and bread in Germany is not making this any easier, despite watching every Eagles game live since the invention of the Internet. But ok, since living in NYC now I am trying to watch more NY football, Jets that is.

  102. 102 SteveH said at 11:22 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Oof, watching Jets “football” probably isn’t going to help.

  103. 103 anon said at 11:45 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    If you watch the defense you won’t be able to watch the eagles after.

  104. 104 GermanEagle said at 5:27 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Lol , I was kidding. However I am seriously considering going to a Jets game this year to watch Mike Vick play.

  105. 105 A_T_G said at 9:26 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Easy… David who?

  106. 106 GermanEagle said at 9:57 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    This is so real…Not! Lol

  107. 107 Jamie Parker said at 11:12 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Now THIS is what we come here for. Look at the funyuns on her!

  108. 108 planetx1971 said at 5:08 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    Aye Carumba!

  109. 109 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:43 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Any advice as how to not read ODB as “Old Dirty Bastard”?

  110. 110 Insomniac said at 9:45 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Can I expect a follow up post on the guy playing opposite of him? My mancrush on Landry rivals Anders and his mancrush on ODB.

  111. 111 anon said at 11:44 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    Landry is a beast, though maybe that’s b/c of ODB, but i think Landry is the more well rounded – possession type receiver. I’m e-mailing Kelly tonight letting him know.

  112. 112 Insomniac said at 12:16 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    ODB doesn’t help when Landry rips balls away from DBs and make them look silly regardless of tight coverage, Lets just say both benefited from each others presence.

  113. 113 anon said at 1:00 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I’m right there with you on him.

  114. 114 Insomniac said at 1:18 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Hope he tests well at his pro day. Landry in a midnight green #81 uniform would make Avant proud.

  115. 115 A_T_G said at 6:29 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    So we should draft both, just to be safe?

  116. 116 Anders said at 3:58 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I have a huge mancrush on Landry as well. He is a more dynamic Avant and that is a huge compliment in my book.

  117. 117 TommyLawlor said at 11:48 PM on April 3rd, 2014:

    I’ll be covering all of the top WRs. This isn’t to say that we must go get a WR in the 1st round. Just happens that there are lots of good ones and that could be the pick.

  118. 118 Cafone said at 1:50 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    WRs are obviously more topical at the moment, but I am looking forward to reading your reports on potential OLB picks. It just seems like more of a need right now despite Jackson’s release. It also seems like a position that might be tougher to fill with a later round pick.

  119. 119 GermanEagle said at 5:25 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    True, however from what I’ve been reading there’s a huge drop off from The top 2 OLB this year, and Dee Ford may be very well gone too.
    I think it will come down to choosing between ODB/Cooks and a CB or Safety at #22, resulting in picking a WR simply because of the bigger need.
    You just have to remember that the Eagles are one injury of Maclin or Cooper away to make this below average receiving corps a terrible one.

  120. 120 mtn_green said at 12:58 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    ODB. Really fights for the ball. Good timing, good hands.

  121. 121 Cafone said at 2:26 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Beckham gets the EDP seal of approval:

  122. 122 baxter322 said at 3:00 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Jordan Matthews and Brandin Cooks would be much better fits. We just lost our two best route runners, 2 guys who knew how to get open and had the best hands on our team. All of those are Beckham ‘ s weaknesses. Beckham rounds out his routes too much, like Maclin, and we can’t start two receivers like that, no matter how elusive.

    Matthews runs a 4.46 at 6’3″ 215, put up 21 reps with 33.4 inch arms and is the most polished route runner in the draft. He’s more of a true #1.

    …but as Jackson’s replacement, you can’t do better than Cooks. Desean isn’t just fast, he knows how to use that speed. Could you imagine if we managed to get both? Or even another pair of lesser receivers, like Robinson and Ellington? In this system, even two guys like Herron and Janis might work in rounds 4 & 5, allowing us to draft 3 talented defensive players.

  123. 123 Insomniac said at 3:22 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Why can’t we? The Bears don’t have any other types of receivers yet they do fine. The Dolphins had a well balanced blend of receivers yet they stunk.

    Beckham is top 3 in terms of hands in this draft. I’d argue that he’s only behind his teammate Landry. Not sure what you’ve watched but Beckham is good enough of a route runner and it’s not like you can’t teach route running. Robinson and Matthews isn’t anything special.

  124. 124 Anders said at 4:23 AM on April 4th, 2014:


  125. 125 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:47 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    but, but, but, ‘big people beat up little people’!

  126. 126 Anders said at 5:05 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Matthews do not run polished routes, he hardly runs any routes unless you think a screen is a route.

  127. 127 Patrick said at 5:34 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    In my opinion, DeSean Jackson doesn’t run great routes either, which I think Baxter argues. Avant does, but I think its a mood point to argue that the offense will suffer much from his release, we all knew that Avant didn’t contribute the same way he used to. I think when it comes to route running ODB is just as good a route runner as DeSean, but I do agree that ODB doesnt have the same pure, natural running ability that DeSean(and to a lesser extend Brandin Cooks does), but people need to understand that DJax is special that way, he runs like an olympic sprinter. ´

  128. 128 Anders said at 7:14 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    ODB runs better routes than Desean

  129. 129 Shane Brown said at 6:28 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Beckams weaknesses are route running and hands??? You obviously have not watched him play. He runs crisp routes and catches everything. Im an lsu fan and watched him whenever i could and what i saw was one of the most well rounded receivers ive ever watched in the ncaa

  130. 130 mksp said at 7:52 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    ODB does not round his routes too much, have no idea where you’re getting that idea from. He’s one of the most polished route runners in the draft, with far more explosiveness than Matthews.

  131. 131 eagleyankfan said at 8:19 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    we just lost our 2 best route runners? oh boy…

  132. 132 RC5000 said at 6:35 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    Beckham is excellent setting up DBs, gets in and out of his breaks quickly and gets separation. He also runs a high percentage of routes for first downs, gets open on corner routes. He is more of a traditional WR who runs all the routes.
    Who says Kelly wants to replace Jackson? We don’t know what he will want in a starting WR. Does he want a tiny WR in the first round to start? There are many small WRs later in the draft, maybe he will draft Thomas. Beckham is bigger than Cooks and a much better run blocker something Kelly MAY want.
    I do like Cooks and Beckham if we go WR in 1st but we don’t know exactly what Kelly wants in his starting WRs. It’s close. Beckham has a significantly wider catch radius and was terrific at times catching Mettenberger’s somewhat inaccurate passes at times.
    You also can’t necessarily go by Cooks and Matthews 40 times without pads. That’s always a tough question. Didn’t think either played up to their times on the field in pads. Cooks is quick and is fast but I don’t know if he’s a burner like Desean. Beckham also covers more ground faster than Cooks with his strides.

  133. 133 GermanEagle said at 5:29 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    OT: what does smfh stand for? #shakingmyfurryhead

  134. 134 ceedubya9 said at 8:05 AM on April 4th, 2014:


  135. 135 Arby1 said at 8:31 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    Just read that smh originally meant: so much hate, before morphing into: shaking my head.

  136. 136 A_T_G said at 9:33 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I thought it meant smack my head, as in “Help me, I am saying such dumb stuff, please smack my head!”

  137. 137 Shane Brown said at 6:15 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    By far my favorite prospect in this draft. This dude just catches EVERYTHING. Suprised that you didn’t mention his huge hands, which chip will love. Not only does he run every route well, but this dude puts the effort and energy into every play he is on the field. Even if he knows he is the quarterbacks last read on a play, he still goes 100%. Love the fact that he makes blocks downfield too. I think he is the best fit for our offense out of all the receivers, besides sammy watkins but like you said hes top 5.

    So huge hands, catches absolutely everything, high motor, consistent, runs crisp routes, catches the ball in traffic and doesnt shy from contact, and he returns kicks. Talk about Exactly what we need

  138. 138 Shane Brown said at 6:23 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I see a lot of you guys talking about Brandin Cooks. I like cooks playmaking ability, but imo he has trouble catching the ball in traffic. Look at his tape, and you will see that he will drop the ball on occasion when he is about to get hit because he is too worried about bracing for the hit. He also drops the ball when hes open on occasion because he starts running before securing the catch. Now these are just things that happen on occasion, and i think hes a good WR. These are just things that you don’t see out of beckam.

    And for those of you who want marquise lee, great player, but i never agree with drafting someone who has a history of injuries.

  139. 139 ztom6 said at 10:00 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    I agree with you on Cooks and I think he will get overdrafted.

  140. 140 A Roy said at 7:16 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    *off subject*

    Tommy, I was just read an article saying that PBR is up for sale. They said the brand is growing due to “urban hipsters”, who like it because it’s light, fizzy, and cheap. Care to comment?

  141. 141 lewis don said at 7:44 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    “Kelly needs WRs that have good RAC skills and Beckham certainly is gifted in that area. Beckham has good hands. He plucks the ball naturally” – You had me at Kelly needs, and Beckham has….

    One thing is for sure, there are alot of good Wrs this draft. I cant compare to previous years, but I like many prospects. But I agree that we should get this guy.

    My only concern is when we should get him. How long has it been since we drafted a Defensive player with our first pick? (too lazy to look that up).

    We have to address the defense. As close as we are to getting an explosive offense. I am worried we will suffer defensively. Unless B. Logan, and Cox make huge strides this year, our QB pressure will be pedestrian and our corners arent quick, or good enough to hold coverage very long without giving up short yardage. that means another year of watching teams marching down the field, putting more pressure on the offense.

    On the other hand, how much better can these picks make the defense. Maybe we do boost the offense and draft later for the defense. It could certainly pay off. But Im a believer that defense wins championships. Our defense is just not there.

    idk, this draft is gonna have to depend on whos available.

    My strategy would be draft the best defensive player unless a great Wr is left on the board. If mike evans somehow slips to 22…we just gotta take him.

    But will odell make it out of the first round?

  142. 142 Anders said at 8:34 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    2012 Fletcher Cox? In 2012, the first 3 picks was defensive and the 4 of the top 5 was defensive with Foles in between Curry and Boykin(g)

  143. 143 lewis don said at 9:24 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    How could I forget..

  144. 144 eagleyankfan said at 8:33 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    If this is what this off season is going to be like – I’m sold. What I liked — a few times he caught the ball near the sideline and tried to get more yardage instead of just stepping out of bounds. A few times he caught the ball around the hash mark and turned inside. Inside is where more defenders are going to be. He didn’t seem to care. What I didn’t like, for 1 millionth time we read on how great a return guy is in college only to come to the Eagles and we never hear about him again. I wouldn’t mind if I never read that again as it doesn’t carry any weight.

  145. 145 illadelphia iggle said at 8:58 AM on April 4th, 2014:

    If he is on the board at #22 I say pull the trigger. This guy shows tremendous effort, and good use of athleticism. I like when the Eagles draft players from the SEC.

  146. 146 Sean Stott said at 4:57 PM on April 4th, 2014:

    So conflicted. I want Beckham, but I also want Pryor. I really believe Pryor will be available.