Into the Wild

Posted: October 11th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 257 Comments »

I hate the Dallas Cowboys. That is the Eagles biggest rival in my mind. But there is something special about the Eagles and Giants. My preview for covers some of the strange things that have happened over the years. The craziest, which I’d forgotten about, might be the fact that Vince Young beat the Giants in 2011. Did that really happen?

I’m sure something memorable will happen. Hopefully good.

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As I wrote about in the preview, it looked to me like Eli had a clean pocket and tons of time last week. That will not be the case on Sunday night. Bill Davis will blitz and do whatever it takes to get some pressure. That doesn’t mean the Eagles will have a bunch of sacks. Eli is masterful at getting rid of the ball at the last minute to avoid the sack.

I do think the Eagles will pressure him.

The OLBs were good last week. Another showing like that would be a huge help on Sunday night. Fletcher Cox was a bit quiet against the Rams. He needs to have more impact this week.

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Leads and deficits won’t scare anyone. Last week the Giants trailed 20-10 in the 2nd half. They won 30-20.

Last season the Eagles led 19-7 at halftime of the first game. The Giants then led 21-19. The Eagles ended up winning 36-21.

These games have a tendency to be full of major momentum swings. A good quarter or even a good half isn’t going to win the game. When the Eagles and Giants get together, the game is usually decided in the 4th quarter, often late in the 4th quarter.

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Is this the week Shady has his breakout game?

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Chris Polk will miss this game with a hamstring problem. He missed some time earlier in the year. At a certain point the Eagles have to wonder if the hamstring will be an issue all year long. If so, Polk may need to go to IR. Barner knows the offense and has the skill set to fit in. He also can help in the KOR game if needed.

We all want Polk, but a #3 RB that can’t stay healthy isn’t a good thing.


257 Comments on “Into the Wild”

  1. 1 SteveH said at 7:16 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    I think we need to be judicious and smart with our blitzing. Giants new offense emphasizes getting the ball out quickly, which has Eli with one of the lowest snap to release times in the NFL. I’d rather we were more conservative and tried to jump routes or bait Eli into bad throws (which we know he does).

  2. 2 Jernst said at 8:40 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Thinking the same thing. I can see Davis being excited by his teams pressure packages the last few weeks and getting burned repeatedly early in the game by bring pressure that has no chance to get there with their quick passing game. I’d much prefer they play a bit of chess and fake pressure only to drop into those quick pass windows. Play with Eli’s mind. Have Jenkins drop off of man coverage like he did two weeks ago with that pick 6. We have to remember that Eli is still new in this system. He hasn’t seen all the different ways defenses can defend this stuff. He hasn’t had the reps. I’m sure teams have been trying to pressure him because for years that was the blue print for stopping Eli. They caught a few mediocre teams off guard with that quick pass, up tempo offense. But, this time around I say we play coverage games with his mind all day long. If we do, he’s good for 2 picks tomorrow, book it.

  3. 3 SteveH said at 9:31 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Yeah, zone blitzes could be real key for us in this one. I wish we had Kendricks, he could have been real key for us.

  4. 4 GEAGLE said at 10:52 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    We actually have started doing a good job of generating pressure with our front 4..
    Defensively this game comes down to our corners pressing WRs to disrupt the timing of west coast offense, while being on the look out for getting burned deep since Eli is a good long ball Qb…. CBs pressing while front 4 hits Eli…. Run game doesn’t matter much..I’m confident our front 7 shuts that shit down..

  5. 5 Truthsayer said at 10:55 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I thought that we had gone 3 – 4. Or is that incorrect?

  6. 6 GEAGLE said at 11:19 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah…but no one plays a3-4 on 3rd down..when it’s time to get after QBs we usually do it out of a 4 man line…
    Eagles use a bunch of different defensive fronts in each game.

  7. 7 Jim Xan said at 7:48 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Wouldn’t Tucker be first in line to be promoted to the active roster over Barner?

  8. 8 Mitchell said at 7:55 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Tucker to active roster, Barner to PS?

  9. 9 Truthsayer said at 10:56 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Good questions. Maybe they have seen something they don’t like with Tucker or he may have an injury. We would not know since we don’t get injury reports on PS players.

  10. 10 GermanEagle said at 8:11 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    I got a feeling that the Seahawks/Cowboys game will be a lot closer than most people think..

  11. 11 TommyLawlor said at 8:59 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Real curious to see how that plays out.

  12. 12 fran35 said at 11:40 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Ugh. I hope not. But I agree with you.

  13. 13 RobNE said at 10:21 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I’m not sure. I think thru 5 weeks it’s hard to get a good read on some teams. Dallas is I think really bad against the run, and the Seahawks I think are first in running. Dallas has done well running and keeping the other team off the field. But Seattle is like a whole other level.

    IT does scare me, and Seattle is my pick in my knockout pool. But Seattle could beat them soundly too.

    who knows.

  14. 14 GEAGLE said at 10:33 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Just curious to see Dez go at Sherman.. Unlike those soft Packers, Dez BRyant will not be running away from Sherm today… I gotta respect that… Look forward to that matchup..
    Romo will probably go at this defense, so I would expect the INT faucet to be turned on..

  15. 15 Jernst said at 8:29 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Trying to decide whether I hate the Giants or Cowboys more is like asking me to pick which is worse between repeated prison rapings or having my nipples blow torched off. I think they’re both just awful. In the late 80s early 90s I’d say Dallas without a doubt. As much as Dallas and that damn star still cause a visceral reaction inside of me, the amount of actual hate generated has recently been surpassed by the NY Giants.

    Part of it is the Cowboys consistent mediocrity. They’re just a joke to me at this point. I love beating them, but its hard to hate a bumbling fool that can’t get out of their own way. The other part is the fans. Living in Philadelphia for so long, the fan interaction between the respective teams is interesting. There are no true Dallas fans in the area. They’re all bandwagon fans, none of them from Dallas or with any connection to the team or city, they know nothing about the team, they just wanted to route for a winner in the early 90’s or were just the type of antagonistic people sole desire was to root against everyone around them and they relished the opportunity to take pleasure in everyone around them’s misery. True soulless assholes.

    However, real Giants fans are everywhere up in the Northeast. Proximity breeds contempt. And, Giants fans are the worst. They’re true fans, that know football and know their teams well. They know your team just as well and they know all your warts and weaknesses. But, above all they love to rub it in your face and talk stupid trash, just like their team, before during and after every season (after only if they won). Eagles fans in my experience can be vile people, but mostly it is anger towards opposition when things for us are going badly, rarely do you see Eagles fans gloating and rubbing it in other teams faces win things are going well. We’ve experienced too much heartbreak to mess with karma like that. Giants fans are the opposite. They are full of gloating before the game, and after a win and completely disappear and slink into the dark corners when they lose. Nothing makes me happier than shutting them up.

    Finally, the teams seem to mirror their fans. The Giants have just been full of easily hatable players from Shockey to Eli to their angry red garden gnome-faced coach, but the Cowboys are full of laughable losers that have been hard to take seriously like Romo, Dez and their ridiculous owner.

  16. 16 D3FB said at 2:52 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I think for me I hate the Cowboys more. Likely a large part of that has to do with my age. I’m 23. The first Super Bowl I can remember is Pats-Packers. And I remember it in the sense that I knew there was a big game being played called the Super Bowl, not in the sense of having any kind of rooting sense or understanding of the game. So of course when Cowboys fans of my age go to the well of “how many super bowls have you won?” It makes me want to cause them physical harm. They can’t claim credit for any Super Bowls that occured before they could remember.

    That being said I would consider the Giants more of a rival. They are a well run organization. I may not like them but I respect them.

    For me it breaks down to the Cowboys being that dickhead in your office that has a bit more money than he knows what to do with, a cocaine habit, and is the guy constantly telling terrible jokes, and being the office kiss ass. The Giants on the other hand are the guy in your department who you are constantly battling with for promotions. He may be a bit of a prick however does quality work, but due to the natural tension that occurs the two of you don’t get along.

  17. 17 cliff h said at 8:17 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    agree, it’s Cowboys by a landslide for me. being 43, i remember Buddy coming in basically saying ‘2-14 is fine as long as those 2 are against dallas’. then have aikman/johnson years coupled with reggie and randall not getting it done took it to a new level of hatred. ‘allas fans are simply the worst. i cant even imagine being from dallas fort worth area and having to deal with other fans that are so totally clueless. why i dont have issue with Giants’ fans, they are very similar to us, very knowledgable, dont live in some fantasy land like cowboys fans-they’ll admit a guy sucks, have no problem infighting to the death but the moment an outsider voices up they all turn and gang tackle. most Giant fans are fans for a really good reason, know plenty and can enjoy a game with them. i see someone wearing a cowboys logo, i want to punch them right in the face, i know there’s about 99.9% chance that they are a total tool.

  18. 18 Jernst said at 11:21 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Living through the Aikman/Irvin/Johnson years solidified my Dallas hatred for eternity. Dallas fans are a joke. Theyre not even worth talking to. They couldn’t even tell you half the players on their own team.

    Giants fans are this guy:

  19. 19 Jernst said at 11:15 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    well said

  20. 20 Henly125 said at 8:59 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    I completely forgot about Vince Young beating those bums. Hah!

  21. 21 TommyLawlor said at 9:00 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    Glad I wasn’t the only one.

  22. 22 anon said at 10:47 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    historic game. Riley Cooper with the TD to end the game.

  23. 23 BlindChow said at 1:59 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Vince Young threw three interceptions just to make it fair.

  24. 24 A_T_G said at 11:23 PM on October 11th, 2014:

    I wonder if Davis will try to work Carroll and/or Wolff onto the field more tomorrow if DeMeco and Mychael are both out, rather than trusting Mathews and Acho to fill those shoes. Getting the lead early would help that strategy.

    Wolffe hasn’t shown that next level some were expecting. Maybe the opportunity comes tomorrow in the form of three-safety sets.

  25. 25 GEAGLE said at 10:23 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Meco isn’t sitting out.. No way

  26. 26 BobSmith77 said at 12:27 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    As for Eagles biggest rival, it is the Giants and vice versa. Played a bunch of interesting games the past few years & I don’t expect this one to be any different although I see an ‘L’ for the Eagles tomorrow.

  27. 27 NinjaP said at 6:54 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Barner is on IR tommy, get your stuff together man,

  28. 28 Average__Joseph said at 8:04 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Actually, he is not on IR:


    Just a little digging would have confirmed Tommy being right.

  29. 29 Anders said at 7:30 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    One of the worst games was the 2006 game. Was leading big, Eli tied it and Kearse got hurt in overtime and of course we lost with Eli throwing a TD to Plaxico

  30. 30 anon said at 7:41 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Crazy to think they’ve had so much continuity at QB

  31. 31 cliff h said at 7:51 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Ell has to be the most infuriating QB i’ve ever watched. the guy can look like hot steaming pile my dog left out in backyard for 3 to 3 1/2 quarters, then all of a sudden he turns it on and looks like All-Pro. probably even worse now with new rules where up 14-17 means almost nothing unless 2 minutes left in the game. miss the good old days of getting JJ’s D 10 pt lead and calling it a W.

  32. 32 GermanEagle said at 8:01 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I might be in the minority here but in terms of hatred Dallas is on top my list be far, followed by the Redskins and then the Giants.

    It’s just that Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are the bigger evil of those three. Eli still sucks though.

  33. 33 cliff h said at 8:30 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    really, JJ and Snyder are my favorite parts of those 2 franchises. both need to live forever. Snyder is a scumbag, i wouldnt doubt he has a hidden warehouse where he’s harvesting organs. but JJ, i’d gladly give him my spare parts to keep him alive. he’s too busy pickling his 3rd or 4th liver by now, and running thru C-graded strippers to plan too far ahead. say what you want about JJ, guy maybe a terrible owner (thankfully) but he’s living life up.

  34. 34 GermanEagle said at 8:36 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I know what u mean.

  35. 35 fran35 said at 9:24 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Agree wholeheartedly. I hate the Cowboys with every fiber of my being and love to watch the franchise flounder. I don’t have any type of hatred for the gnats, but they are our best rivals historically. I actually respect the team, coach, and most of the players as well.

  36. 36 GermanEagle said at 9:35 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Respect is the proper term being used in connection with the Giants, and I’m not saying that because I live in Queens now.
    So while I dislike Eli, I gotta say I am still rooting for CuJo and Patterson, just not when they’re playing the Eagles of course.

  37. 37 Gary Barnes said at 9:29 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Some personnel decisions have come back to haunt a bit this year so far….trading Brown and Polk cannot stay healthy; letting DJax go for nothing and not having the same deep game which helped stretch the field; having mediocre backups on the OL & ILB which has hampered production; Wolfe not progressing enough to beat out Allen and 1st pick Smith struggling to make an impact…far from the end of the world, but the health luck we had last year has vanished and other teams seem to know exactly what Chip will do

  38. 38 GermanEagle said at 9:33 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    If I didn’t know what the Eagles record was, after reading your post, I would think they’d be 0-4 instead of 4-1.

  39. 39 NorCal Philly said at 12:26 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Upvote for JPP math which is almost as good as Steiner math.

  40. 40 Gary Barnes said at 1:12 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Huh? If we were 0-5, I think my post would be a bit stronger than pointing out some personnel issues that have caused us some problems. But hey if you want to ignore anything realistic and paint anyone who does point out reasonable criticisms with a broad brush I cannot stop you

  41. 41 MaggieMagpie said at 2:33 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Reasonable criticism is great. Wishing to change the past, however, doesn’t help. Saying the Eagles “should” or “should not” have done some action in the past is kind of pointless. Let’s stick to analyzing what the team is doing now.;~). Reasonably.

  42. 42 GEAGLE said at 10:54 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    How has Polk injury negatively effected us? When have we gotten around to using our 3rd RB in games?

  43. 43 Gary Barnes said at 1:15 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    With the running game struggling, Polk could have been another option to try and he does have some power/straight ahead ability which might work a little better – not a big issue, but without Brown & Polk, depth does become an issue

  44. 44 GEAGLE said at 1:50 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I adore Chris Polk… But so far, you can’t say that we miss bryce brown… If it were up to me, Polk would have been getting carries these past couple of weeks…

    But we haven’t used him yet, and his injury will probably be healed and he will be back before we ever give a snap to a 3rd RB…

    I see no reason why getting a 3rd or 4th for Bryce was bad in hind site..

    Polk is so much more valuable than bryce..I know everyone complains about Polks health, but in reality, he hasn’t missed many Eagles game… His health is usually offseason issue

  45. 45 BlindChow said at 12:28 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Releasing Jackson has nothing to do with the failure of our deep game. We’ve had guys running open deep all year. Foles just can’t hit them anymore. Last year he hit Jackson and the much-slower Cooper regularly.

  46. 46 Gary Barnes said at 1:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I agree that Foles has missed a bunch of opportunities and he’s also forced several that did not need to be thrown, but his timing with DJax did seem better. If we can complete more of those, it causes the D to back off and stop focusing so hard on the run game. Hopefully, the timing will improve as the year goes on.

  47. 47 MaggieMagpie said at 2:28 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    How many games has Washington won?

  48. 48 GEAGLE said at 10:21 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Cowboys are not our biggest rivals… Maybe the FANBASE feels that way, but most of the players already admitted that the Giants are the main rival not the Cowboys,,
    Personally I’m more interested in who our players hate, then 40yr old fans hating the Cowboys over some ish that happened two decades ago..
    Can’t wait to smash this group of midgets

  49. 49 SuPaFrO said at 11:00 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    I do agree with you it is more the FanBase. Personally i hate the Cowboys more because i am from Southern California and here everyone’s a Raiders or CowGirls fan. So there have always been shit talkers here all my life ( I’m” only” 25) I do now just ignore them because they REALLY are all DUMBASSES. Point and laugh. Right in front of their faces

  50. 50 GEAGLE said at 11:17 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Like seriously… They are going to have to accomplish something in November/December before they even deserve to be taken serious… It’s hard to hate them anymore, when I can’t help but laugh at them..

    Can’t have a rivalry with a group of clowns.. What’s that say about us? Respect the Giants more, so beating them means more… Tho losing to the Cowboys is extremely Embarressing

  51. 51 NorCal Philly said at 12:29 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    At least here in NorCal folks hate the ‘boys just as much as anyone anywhere. Me, I have equal disdain for them and the Football Giants; RacialSlurs are a distant third.

  52. 52 GEAGLE said at 10:35 AM on October 12th, 2014:

    Nothing worse than waiting Til 8pm for an Eagles game when the 1pm games blow..
    Steelers vs. Browns on CBS
    Packers vs. Dolphins on Fox
    Whack… I don’t even have fantasy players in these games..
    Hate these night games

  53. 53 ACViking said at 12:12 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    GE wrote:

    “Nothing worse than waiting Til 8pm for an Eagles game when the 1pm games blow . . . .”

    Actually, something worse does exist.

    Waiting for a Monday Night game when the 1pm games blow.

    E-A-G-L-E-S . . . . Daje!

  54. 54 GEAGLE said at 12:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Waiting Til Monday before a bye week would be just cruel
    Ditka: “Giants can beat the Eagles with ease”….. Fool, concussions have taken a toll on that Brain

  55. 55 ACViking said at 12:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    You’re at your best on game day.
    no doubt

  56. 56 GEAGLE said at 12:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Lol I should be in rare form by tonight….Giants make me extra Ornery
    Plus I’m having fantasymfootball disaster… Bye weeks have me starting Darren McFadden and Storm Johnson as my runningbacks today..sigh

  57. 57 MaggieMagpie said at 2:27 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Speaking from the west coast, we like “night” games. For starters, they are aired across the continent. They start 3 hours earlier out here, so we can sit down with our dinner, in front of the TV and mindlessly cheer or boo with our stomachs full. Nothing like chowing down dessert while watching the Eagles frantically try to stop the opponents’ second-half comeback, then put together a 10-play drive to score with 1:37 left, to win the game.

  58. 58 ACViking said at 2:28 PM on October 12th, 2014:


    Spent a couple years in the pacific time zone.

    Agree. Night games were the best. Up early Monday and no worse for the wear.

    (Tuesdays back then)

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 12:22 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Nationally, everyone is picking the Giants., puts a big smile on my face. I feel so uncomfortable going into games when all the national dopes are picking the Eagles..

  60. 60 ACViking said at 12:30 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Re: Biggest Rivals

    It’s all era driven. Nothing remarkable about that.

    In the early ’60s, the biggest rivals were Cleveland and the NYG. The Cowboys were a terrible expansion team.

    From the mid ’60s – early ’80s, the biggest rival became Dallas. Because (a) the NFL reorganized its divisions, moving Cleveland out, (b) both the NYG and Washington were as lousy as the Eagles, and (c) the Cowboys routinely kicked the Eagles ass . . .

    PLUS ‘Boys MLB LeRoy Jordon cheap-shotted Tim Brown in ’67 and knocked out 6 teeth. (It took 3 years to get even, but DE Mel Tom did when he blind-sided Staubach after an INT and dropped him with a forearm to the side of the head.)

    In the ’70s, even when Washington became a perennial playoff team, the hate for Dallas never sagged. And the Giants were terrible anyway.

    Even Vermeil fed the Eagles-Cowboys rivalry. He knew that to win the NFC, the Eagles had to beat Dallas.

    But things changed in 1981 — when the Giants drafted Lawrence Taylor (after the Saints passed on him for RB George Rodgers. Ugh.)

    From that point on, the Giants became relevant. And it’s not really changed.

    After the Vermeil era, the only other time the Cowboys mattered was during the Jimmy Johnson-era. And at that point, EVERY fan of every other team hated the Cowboys. But the Birds were no match for that crew.

    What Buddy Ryan so eloquently said on Thanksgiving Day 1989 applies today . . . “aw, who the hell are the Cowboys?”

  61. 61 SteveH said at 12:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I think the Cowboys get a little bonus hatred cuz they’re so arrogant, plus the whole “America’s Team”. Throw Jerry Jones, an almost caricature of the maniacal oil baron team owner (seriously he could play the villain in a movie) and that’s a lot of bonus non-era points against them.

    I agree the eras probably matter most though, having grown up during the Cowboys dynasty definitely influences how I feel about them.

  62. 62 ACViking said at 12:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:


    In the pre-1989 NFL world — before Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys — fans hated teams because of their players and coaches.

    I think Jerry Jones created a whole new category, maybe making the Cowboys sui generis.

    Fans dislike the Cowboys — no matter how mediocre they are — because of the owner.

    As an side . . . I do dislike the Jets (despite like Ryan) because of Woody Johnson. The guy inherited a share of the Johnson & Johnson empire. Hasn’t done a lick of work in his whole life. And talks as though he knows how to run a football team.

    Jones, at least, is self-made and a brilliant business guy. Johnson? Silver-spooned.

  63. 63 GEAGLE said at 12:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    This week espn keeps talking about how it’s the anniversary of the Hershel Walker trade and that without that trade, jerry jones would never be the mogul he has become… Ridiculous that the dumb vIkings created this monster.. I’m too young to remember a Cowboys world without Jerruh, but it’s crazy to see how 1 trade had such a huge effect on a franchise,,
    Sure you can speak on this infinitely better than I can

  64. 64 ACViking said at 1:15 PM on October 12th, 2014:


    I lived in Dallas from ’85-’97 . . . saw the Cowboys implode w/ Landry and then the whole Jerry – Jimmy drama.

    Jimmy Johnson took enormous heat in the media when that deal was made. In hindsight, Jones may have been sourcing the stories.

    The immediate perception was Johnson traded a Pro Bowl RB — and the only talented player — for a handful of mediocre JAGs a couple of draft picks.

    Johnson kept his mouth shut, and he waited. As soon as the ’89 season ended, he started cutting loose the Viking players he’d acquired.

    Naturally . . . more media heat.

    Then Johnson explained that the Vikings agreed, as part of the trade, that if the players acquired by Dallas were not on the Cowboys’ roster, the ‘Boys would cash in on the *Conditional Draft Picks* that were also part of the deal:

    – Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1991

    – Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1991

    – Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1992

    – Minnesota’s 3rd round pick in 1992

    – Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1993

    Those picks were *in addition to* the Vikings’
    1st, 2nd and 6th Rd picks in 1990.

    The point being that EVERYONE missed the key to the deal . . . the conditional picks.

    Especially, Vikings GM Mike Lynn.

    When Johnson started cashing in on the conditional picks, Lynn tried to bad-mouth the move and say that wasn’t the “intent” of the deal.

    That wasn’t Lynn’s intention.

    Johnson? Picked Lynn’s safety-deposit box clean.

  65. 65 GEAGLE said at 1:22 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Lol Imagine if chip kelly did something like that today, and couldn’t explain to our media that the players we “traded for” really were just going to BE converted to an insane amount of high draft picks? Our media and FANBASE would be in serious rare form lol

    Espn 30 for 30 about that trade is going to air soon.. Jimmy talks about how he would go into a press conference so happy about the trade, while everyone else in the room wanted to kill him, and he couldn’t tell the media the truth…
    If that happened in Philly today, he would be getting death threats lol… Tho If an exec ever would dare do something like that in this city it would prob be sixers GM SAM Hinkie ..
    Love to hear how Jimmy johnson talks about Jerruh behind closed doors.. He must think of him as the biggest Doufus…

    One aspect of the story I haven’t seen yet, was how did Jerruh initial act towards the trade? I assume he understood it from the beginning….. If that happened today, we would prob just immediately cut the players we traded for so the media knows we really did the trade for the draft picks….. Closest comparison I can think of is the Ricky Williams trade

  66. 66 ACViking said at 1:29 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Publicly, Jones and Johnson were on the same page.

    Back in ’89, Jones — who’d mortgaged every thing he owned to get the Cowboys — was much more focused on the business end. Johnson handled the football side.

    But the stories in the media . . . ouch! I’m thinking now that Jones was behind them.

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 1:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Thank you sir… Your wealth of football history has no limits…

    You are like the Igglesblitz version of the “ITalian Ray Didinger” 😉

  68. 68 ACViking said at 1:35 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    gazie mille

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on October 12th, 2014:


  70. 70 SteveH said at 1:24 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I never knew that about the conditional picks. I can’t even imagine Lynn’s reaction once he figured out what had happened.

  71. 71 ACViking said at 1:26 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    The Vikings fired GM Lynn after the 1990 season . . . when the fleecing became clear.

  72. 72 SteveH said at 1:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Haha, in my mind I picture him figuring it out, and just a bead of sweat slowly rolling down his face as he realizes the clock has been ticking on his job this whole time.

  73. 73 ACViking said at 1:37 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    tick tock, tick tock.

    great visual.

  74. 74 SteveH said at 1:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    My dislike for Woody Johnson is somewhat negated by how inept he is. He’s easy to laugh at.

    People complain a lot about Lurie as an owner but I think we have it really good. Seems like a pretty decent guy, or at least he’s never been caught doing anything shitty. We could have ended up with a Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder or Jerry Richardson or Jimmy Haslem.

    Snyder is the absolute worst owner, I think he gets less hate because he doesn’t have quite the same bombastic, grandiose ego that Jerry has, but the more you learn about him the more you realize he is possibly the most petty, vindictive, insecure, pitiful excuse for a human being to walk the earth.

  75. 75 ACViking said at 1:30 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    StH . . . beautiful!

    Ineptness does have its privileges.

  76. 76 ACViking said at 1:32 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Among all the owners listed who’re “front guys” for their franchises, Jerry Jones has by far made a bigger impact on how the other owners — and the NFL — do business.

    He’s made a lot of money for himself and his brethren.

    I respect the hell out of him for that.

    As a football guy? Bozo the Clown.

  77. 77 SteveH said at 1:33 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah, he’s definitely a shrewd businessman. Lost in all the Ray Rice controversy recently is the lawsuit for sexual assault against him. He must be thanking his lucky stars that there was so much else going on during the news cycle that that story faded fast. During a slow news period it would be absolutely dominating the headlines.

  78. 78 Ark87 said at 12:42 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I have special categories for each teams in my head. The Cowboys are straight up the enemy, hated enemy. The Redskins might be as well if they weren’t so humorously inept for the past generation. Which leaves the Giants, their organization is way too similar to ours to truly despise the way I hate the Cowboys. They are truly our biggest rival in my eyes, as there is a form of respect deep down to go with the proxy.

  79. 79 ACViking said at 12:50 PM on October 12th, 2014:


    I like how you broke that down.

  80. 80 P_P_K said at 2:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Only an Eagles fan could so well articulate his hatred of rival teams. Well done, sir.

  81. 81 SteveH said at 12:40 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Got a feeling Malcom Jenkins gets a pick tonight. Hate waiting for the late game, its like I waste the whole day just waiting for the Birds game to start.

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 12:51 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Thinking we get Two INTs Tonight and Boykin gets a pick tonight… Because he will be on Cruz and Eli will try to force balls to cruz while he is under pressure…
    You want to hit Eli a lot tonight…but you don’t want to sack him. Eli won’t throw the ball away, he will force throws under you want to rush him into throwing up a few balls that our boys can capitalize on…our defensive front is going to eat this midget line alive… Expecting the front 7 to put on a show tonight…they will do their part…hopefully the corners do their part… Imperative that they press the WRs and disrupt the timing of this Westcoast offense,,but while we are pressing them we have to keep our eyes open for WRs faking the short pass and then trying us deep. Eli is a good deep ball QB and even tho he is now running a dink n dunk pFfense he willl try to lull our corners to sleep with short passes, that’s when Cruz will fake a quick short route and turn up the jets and test us deep…boykin does well against Cruz…he will be ready for it….but Cary and Brad are going to have to watch out for that against ODB…

  83. 83 GEAGLE said at 12:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    i would say that our offensive and defensive lineman tonight win about 70% of the individual matchups against the midgets lines… If that holds true, we win

  84. 84 BlindChow said at 12:57 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Prediction: Huff fumbles on a kickoff return.

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 1:04 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I see you are getting an early start to your disgusting weekly negativity… You are like the worst Eagles fan imaginable on Gameday.
    Not even sure you really like the Eagles.. Might be some closet broke back mountain cowboy queer..

    It’s one thing to have a bad feeling about the game…but to see the same “fan” bring NOTHING but negativity week in and week out on game day is pretty disgusting….
    Enjoy.. If people copy and pasted your Gameday comments into one thread, but hey, enjoy your les miserables

  86. 86 BlindChow said at 1:24 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I love how easy it is to make you mad. I say “Dance!” and right on cue you start dancing.

  87. 87 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    So anything interesting on tap for the early games?

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 1:06 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Crap games.. Browns/steelers CBS
    Fox GB vs. MIami

    Prob watch the Browns since they have the best defense of the 4 teams

  89. 89 SteveH said at 1:07 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I’m watching Bills Pats. Mostly cuz I’m amused by the relentless suck train that is Buffalo.

    Edit: For example, 3rd down and 5? Better leave Gronk uncovered! I love the Bills.

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 1:09 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Where do you live that you get the Bills game? I like watching the Bills D when it’s at full strength…

    When It comes to watching non Eagles games, I typically watch the team with the best defense on TV,,,

  91. 91 SteveH said at 1:10 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I got Sunday ticket. I’m out of market for Eagles games so its pretty much required for me unless I want to watch 6 or 7 games a year at the bar.

  92. 92 SteveH said at 1:21 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    How desperate do you have to be at quarterback to lure Kyle Orton out of retirement and give him 5 million dollars.

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 1:26 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Lol EJ Maunels college coach allegedly told the bills predraft that EJ would only be a backup QB in the NFL and that EJ should be a 3rd round pick…the friggim kids college coach tells you that, and you go on to draft him in round 1? Say what? lol
    If his coach told you he should be a 3rd round pick, he probabky told all the other teams who asked that he was a 3rd round pick…so why the hell would you feel like you have to spend a first round pick to secure him?
    How does Doug Marrone survive such stupidity?

  94. 94 SteveH said at 1:30 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I think it is organizational. From the top on down. Bad owner, bad GM, bad coach.

  95. 95 GEAGLE said at 1:32 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Whoa…bills owner RIP was one of the best….but he was prob too old to have much Imput by the time that pick was u aren’t wrong
    Doesn’t really matter tho..Ralph Wilson passed away, new owners coming, no chance in hell that current bills employee survive the change in owners.. New owner going to want a new GM, who will want to appoint his own coach…ATleast I assume.

  96. 96 SteveH said at 1:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    He might have been a good owner in the sense that he was a decent guy, but during the last 2 decades of his ownership he was responsible for putting place the people who have saddled the Bills with the longest playoff drought in the league. As a football guy, at least during his twilight years, he was not a good owner.

  97. 97 GEAGLE said at 1:41 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    True.. You can be good on the business side, crappy on the football side.
    Ralph Wilson’s legacy is more about saving the NFL, then the football side of things,.

    Sucks that Donald trump didn’t get the team.. He would have been an interesting addition to NFL owners, and he could have been good for a small market team

  98. 98 SteveH said at 1:43 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yes, but then we’d have to look at that ridiculous hair piece. I can’t condone that under any conditions.

  99. 99 MaggieMagpie said at 2:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Donald Trump is too much like Jerrah. Hire the guys who give the best yes-man answers, then constantly interfere with the front office and coaches. Draft whoever is getting the most headlines, never mind if they can actually play. Like the Jets saddling Ryan with Tebow a couple of years ago. That stupidity may have even seriously messed with Sanchez’ mind.

  100. 100 anon said at 2:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    everything you don’t want about football.

  101. 101 GEAGLE said at 2:28 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Not so sure,, he has his crazy persona, but if you pay attention to trump business, he tends to keep his baffoon side out of his business ventures,,
    I also wonder if someone with an ego like him could do some good for a small market franchise.. I would t want to see Donald own the Jets… But he could do some good for a small franchise like the bills or Jags

  102. 102 anon said at 2:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    it’d be first about revenue generation (and trying to move the team) second about good football play. As much as we hate jerry jones you know that he wants to win as much as he wants to make $$.

  103. 103 GEAGLE said at 2:38 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I don’t know that at all about Jerruh.. He created a culture where he gets to make money whether he wins or not….

  104. 104 ACViking said at 2:43 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Spot on.

    Which is why he’s a great business man.

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 1:27 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Cameron Wake is such a friggin beast… Ageless beast
    And the Dolphins block a punt…stop trying to be like us Lazor. Love to see a crappy AFC team give a NFC playoff contender a loss… Let’s go dolphins
    Anon your boy Jarvis Landry almost got his TD

  106. 106 ACViking said at 1:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That’s why former Miami GM Jeff Ireland needed to trade-up to draft Dion Jordon.

    Now he’s out of a job

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 1:37 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Idiot should have drafted Ziggy Ansah if they wanted to stay with the 4 man line…

  108. 108 ACViking said at 1:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That deal still ticks me off.

    I think Kelly was banking on Jordan to eliminate the need for a ROLB for the next 10 years.

    LJ’s very good. But a great O-line coach can coach up non-1st rd guys.

    But freak athletes at OLB? They don’t fall out of trees.

    (And who knows if Jordan gets busted for whatever he did if he’s an Eagle. Can’t assume anything.)

  109. 109 anon said at 1:43 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Agree it’s the key to the defense — especially the type of 34 they want to run.

  110. 110 GEAGLE said at 1:45 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    It ticks me off… But I think it worked out well, because I think kellys plan would have blown up in his face,,in that I think his plan was Dion at #4 and then he figured he could get his boy Kyle Long for the OL in round two… Long ended up getting picked in round 1, so getting Lane ended up being the smart move…
    Especially since I guarantee dion will be an eagle sooner or later.. When it’s all said and done we will have Lane, Dion and Ertz…so Longterm everything will have worked out..
    I know we will get dion whether it’s via trade or when he becomes a free agent…I used to think we would eventually get Kyle Long too, but I’m not sure sure…I get the impressioni et is very happy in chi town

  111. 111 ACViking said at 1:51 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    One hopes you’re right

  112. 112 anon said at 2:53 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    landry got his first TD

  113. 113 SteveH said at 1:29 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Hahaaaa, Bills just penalized for slapping his own player on the helmet in congratulations. Gave the Pats a first down after they stopped them short on 3rd and 1. It wouldn’t be an NFL game if the refs didn’t completely fuck up in a critical spot at least once.

  114. 114 SteveH said at 1:42 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    rofl… Bills player shoves Edelman on a deep pass before the ball gets there and then the ball hits him in the head. Turn around you dope!! Bills are so funny.

  115. 115 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:52 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    1 minute 3 seconds into the 2nd quarter and Tampa Bay is down 0-35. How in the world did that team win a game??

  116. 116 SteveH said at 1:53 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Holy shit. Your guess is as good as mine.

    Jesus Christ, Joe Flacco has 5 TD passes in the first 16 minutes!!!

  117. 117 GEAGLE said at 2:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Lovie has some decent parts on defense too…

  118. 118 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Well, I suppose Mariota will like Florida weather.

  119. 119 SteveH said at 1:57 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Patriots offense has fallen off so hard. So many of their moves haven’t worked out lately.

    Worst move of all was thinking they could replace Welker with Amendola. Welker train rolls on in Denver, Amendola can’t even get on the field.

  120. 120 anon said at 1:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    when youre successful for so long sometimes you start to believe your own hype.

  121. 121 SteveH said at 1:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I really think that’s true in this case. Wonder if Randy Moss’ success got in Bill’s head, thinking he can just grab whoever off the street and still have success.

  122. 122 anon said at 1:59 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Exactly — if you believe in the QB then you think he can turn coal into diamonds.

  123. 123 SteveH said at 2:01 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Oof, painfully awkward interview with new Bills owner on Fox now. Almost as bad as bringing in Mike Carey as an officiating expert.

  124. 124 SteveH said at 2:06 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Joe Flacco very good chance to break the all time TD pass record, unless the Ravens call off the dogs. 38 minutes to get 3 TD passes.

  125. 125 anon said at 2:07 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    yeah lovie smith should have stayed retired. that team does not have the answers despite all the individual talent.

  126. 126 ACViking said at 2:12 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Besides hiring Pettine . . . has Ray Farmer made any notable moves in the post-Banner era that have made Cleveland a team that looks like it could be very good in a another season or so?

    Banner and Lombardi cut loose Chudzinski.

    Then Haslem cut loose Banner and Lombardi.

    I don’t know the answer. But Banner and Lombardi left that organization in far better shape than they found it.

  127. 127 SteveH said at 2:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Haslem is an idiot. Possibly certifiably so. Banner might be reviled in Philly but he isn’t the worst front office exec in the league by a long shot.

  128. 128 ACViking said at 2:13 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Kelvin Benjamin continues to produce. BIG TIME.

  129. 129 GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    FUCK!!! I benched him today for steve smith

    Ravens up 35-0 in the second Quarter…. Let’s see how Ravens “prevent” looks against Glennon and the Bucs

  130. 130 anon said at 2:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I benched Steve Smith for Vincent Jackson. Figured he couldn’t have 2 big games in a row.

  131. 131 ACViking said at 2:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Well, Smith has a 56 yard TD.

    Good move.

    Benjamin’s was only 7 yards

  132. 132 GEAGLE said at 2:24 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Nice!!! I’m too afraid to check my fantasy stats,, I have storm Johnson at RB Today lol.. Darren McFadden is just as bad…
    Crappy position of having Jamaal Charles on a bye week, Reggie bush ISNT playing.. Saints RBs are on a bye.,.and this week I was dead last in waiver wire position…so I wasnt able to get anyone I wanted on the waiver wire

  133. 133 anon said at 2:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I think Storm Johnson got one too.

  134. 134 GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on October 12th, 2014:


  135. 135 GEAGLE said at 2:14 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Struggling with a few college prospects:
    How does top WR Amaric Cooper compare to Sammy Watkins?
    Safety Landon Collins vs. HaHa Clinton Dix

    Jalen Strong vs, Kelvin Benjamin/MIke Evans.
    Oregon Safety Erick Dargan vs. Ed Reynolds

  136. 136 anon said at 2:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Jets might have a contender if their QB/WRs were even halfway decent. Gotta be a lot of pressure knowing you’re holding your team back.

  137. 137 ACViking said at 2:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    All sins forgiven in the NFL if a team has a good QB.

    Something’s not right with the picture.

  138. 138 anon said at 2:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Fantasy football is a billion dollar business.

  139. 139 ACViking said at 2:20 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Does the NFL get a slice of that pie?

  140. 140 SteveH said at 2:21 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I’m willing to bet their is some increased viewership because of fantasy.

  141. 141 ACViking said at 2:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    You’re right about that.

    First, gambling increase viewership.

    Then fantasy football exploded the viewership numbers.

    But does the NFL need so many passing TDs to keep folks interested?

    I played fantasy football back in the ’80s. And — like today — it was all aobut trying to get information all day long.

    Once people are hooked, why keep mainlining them with the heroine of high scores?

  142. 142 anon said at 2:27 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    fantasy is way more fun and easier when you have 32 teams built like the Broncos than when you have 32 built like the Jets.

  143. 143 ACViking said at 2:31 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Easier, yes.


    Back in the day, if you drafted whomever the Rams had at RB (Dickerson, then Bell, then Highsmith), or the Steelers Barry Foster, or Emmitt Smith . . . you were in the running to win the title.

    A great RB and a great PK.

    I won a title with Stan Humphries at QB. So many were bunched together back then.

  144. 144 SteveH said at 2:28 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Because rich people want to get richer. The NFL is going to keep pushing the scoring envelope because they believe the excitement drives viewership. It’s a dangerous game, because even though the changes they make are somewhat small, it also chips away at peoples perception of the integrity of the game.

    As with most things, if they keep pushing long enough the whole thing will collapse.

  145. 145 MaggieMagpie said at 2:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Unfortunately, there are so many areas in our current western world culture where “integrity” has been removed from the dictionary.

  146. 146 ACViking said at 2:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Flacco has 5 TDs passing in 19:37?


    If he breaks the records, I think the NFL seriously needs to think about allowing DBs to play bump-and-run Pre-1979.

    Watching Flag Football is really not that fun.

  147. 147 SteveH said at 2:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Flacco had 5 TD’s in the first 16 minutes, if you can believe it.

  148. 148 ACViking said at 2:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I can hear Vince Lombardi screaming, “What the hell’s goin’ on out there!!!”

    It’s just not right. Structurally. The NFL cannot be taken seriously if every season a couple of QBs toss 7 or 8 TDs in a game.

  149. 149 ACViking said at 2:20 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    hasn’t happened yet this season.

    but, jeez, if Flacco wants the record, it’s his.

  150. 150 SteveH said at 2:20 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    It looks like they’re going into cruise control, last 2 drives Ravens haven’t done anything. Shame too, I’d love to see him throw like 11 or something stupid like that.

  151. 151 ACViking said at 2:22 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    11 . . . that would be awesome.

    Totally blow up the NFL.

  152. 152 anon said at 2:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Tennehill doing his best nick foles impression.

  153. 153 SteveH said at 2:20 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Controversial hot take: I think Moose Johnston is the best announcer Fox has.

    Edit: Not to be confused with me thinking he is a great announcer, I just think he’s the best Fox has.

  154. 154 ACViking said at 2:21 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    He has his days as an analyst. To be sure.

    I’m not in the Al Michael’s camp anymore.

    Ego grew way too big.

    Back in the “Miracle on Ice Days,” he was tops.

    NO ONE TOPS COSELL . . . however.

  155. 155 SteveH said at 2:23 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Isn’t Michaels with NBC? He is also a ridiculous NYG homer.

  156. 156 ACViking said at 2:26 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    He’s NBC’s go-to guy.

    Out of control ego. Stories abound of his arrogance with regular folks (like drivers).

  157. 157 SteveH said at 2:31 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Gross. What a putz.

  158. 158 MaggieMagpie said at 2:43 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Too bad. He gained lot of respect for becoming a news reporter, when he was the only announcer on the air, when the 1989 earthquake struck in San Francisco. Must have gone to his head.

  159. 159 Sean Stott said at 2:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Moose is aight except for the suits he wears.

  160. 160 SteveH said at 2:30 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That’s a link to the funny play I mentioned earlier where the Bills guy shoves Edelman then gets hit in the head by the ball a second later. Top notch pass D!

  161. 161 ACViking said at 2:33 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Brian Hoyer . . . .

    From the Michigan State QB factory.

    Belichick cut loose Hoyer in favor of the Arkansas razor.

    And Cleveland spent a 1st Rd pick on a QB who may never see the field for them . . . and may never get back a 1st Rd pick for them.

  162. 162 anon said at 2:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That first round pick paid for itself through season ticket purchases.

  163. 163 GEAGLE said at 2:36 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Good Ol johnny jackass… The welfare lipstick on a pig version of Doug Flutie
    ..Who is the jackass QB coach who johnny texted on draft night and suckered them into picking him LOL

  164. 164 ACViking said at 2:37 PM on October 12th, 2014:


  165. 165 GEAGLE said at 2:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That’s the level of coverage these idiots give us in philly.. Johnny jackass trying to figure out ways to rig his sleep monitor like a criminal trying to get out of his house arrest ankle bracelet… THATS Chip Kellys dream QB… Screw Nick FOles, What if chip “wants to trade up for johnny many media members typed that? 95% of the media working in philly.. Yet Chip Kelly’s wet dream ended up FAlling all the way to 22… Lol wonder if Johnny texted Chip kelly lol..
    ….Chips researching how he can use Cocaine and alcohol to His QB’s advantage …smh

  166. 166 ACViking said at 2:36 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    A . . .

    great point about the tix sales. and if Hoyer keeps delivering, Browns fans won’t care.

    but from the personnel side, what does Ray Farmer do?

    Hoyer’s a FA after this season.

  167. 167 anon said at 2:38 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    On the personnel side it’s truly terrible. They could have continued to move back and collect picks (many of which are grace a joe banner) and take a talented WR – JMATT, Cody Lattimer, K. Benji, etc.

  168. 168 ACViking said at 2:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    pair Josh Gordon w/ Benj / JMAT / CodyLats?

    and still have more picks.

    Farmer may have missed and missed BIG on that one.

    Hoyer doesn’t do anything but win.

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 2:47 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah but he will have two top 10 picks in this draft for letting the bills draft sammy Watkins

  170. 170 ACViking said at 2:59 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Well played.

    Farmer could have had the world.

    The NFL’s Tony Montana

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 2:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Society is so predictable… What a joke.. Roger Goodell knew he didn’t have to step down… All he had to do was go underground, wait for the storm to pass, and society attention span would forget all about that slimy piece of shit
    Ridiculous that the media and their fake public out cry are going to let GOODELL keep his job, simply by doing nothing, and just waiting it out…
    This is exactly why we don’t progress as a society…no one really cared about that GOODELL crap, it was just the latest story for the media to sucker us into caring about for a few days… We don’t have the attentions span as a society to forced change…and GOODELL knew it…so he was smart not to step down

  172. 172 ACViking said at 2:42 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    A great line from a great movie . . . .

    The public has a very short memory.

    But corporations? They never forget.

  173. 173 GEAGLE said at 2:51 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    So true

  174. 174 Avery Greene said at 3:57 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Politics aside, when I heard Condeleeza Rice said being the NFL Commish was her dream job, I wanted them to make that change. What a way to send a message to women that the NFL cares than to put an intelligent and highly capable woman in the commish position.

  175. 175 anon said at 4:01 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    think she’s on the NCAA playoff squad. I didn’t know she was into sports like that.

  176. 176 Avery Greene said at 4:03 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    It’s funny when you look at the personal lives of some of these people and realize they’re big sports fans. I think she works at Notre Dame, and sports are pretty big there.

  177. 177 RobNE said at 4:06 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    How is she qualified?

  178. 178 SteveH said at 4:07 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    She watches sports. Duh.

  179. 179 Avery Greene said at 4:10 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    If Goodell can start as an intern in the league and work his way up, than someone who’s accomplished educationally and professionally can probably do the job. She handled heads of state in really tough situations, I think she can handle a couple petulant owners.

  180. 180 MaggieMagpie said at 2:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Regardless of the fans’ level of hatred or a perceived rivalry, most of the players are only 23 years old, from other parts of the country and DON’T CARE who they beat. They are paid professionals and a win is a win. A few veterans might care but that’s all.

  181. 181 ACViking said at 2:42 PM on October 12th, 2014:


    I agree.

    And a couple other factors are (i) the brevity of players’ stays in one place, and (ii) the annual roster turnover because of the cap.

    The Eagles of the ’70s HATED the Cowboys. Hated them. Twice a year for 6-8 years those guys would T-off on each other.

  182. 182 MaggieMagpie said at 2:50 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I wasn’t an Eagles fan then but I hated the Cowboys anyway! Partly because of the “America’s Team” label, which I acknowledge had nothing to do with the players. Didn’t matter. It was an insult to millions of people who didn’t give a rap about Dallas, or even football. And, I’m not even American! ;~D

  183. 183 ACViking said at 2:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    “America’s Team” . . .

    That was an exclamation mark for everyone.

  184. 184 ACViking said at 2:45 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Blake Bortles . . . the real deal?

    On a dreadful team, he’s looked awfully good so far. Considering.

  185. 185 SteveH said at 2:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I’m not sure that I can believe in a world where the Jaguars are allowed to have nice things.

  186. 186 ACViking said at 3:01 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That’s a line I’ve written down for future use . . . w/ credit.

  187. 187 GEAGLE said at 2:49 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Thinking he has a chance to be legit…..but that’s just my initial impression from a far…..haven’t seen much

  188. 188 GEAGLE said at 2:53 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Anon… Your boy landry just caught a dope TD…first of his career…10-10 mIami/GB

  189. 189 anon said at 2:53 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    hopefully Huff will play so well we can forget about him. Landry is a baller.

  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah…I was hoping he fell to the 4th-5th range…wishful thinking

  191. 191 anon said at 2:56 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    yeah i was hoping third, miami taking all of our players early.

  192. 192 GEAGLE said at 3:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Curious to know how good Kelvin Benjamin really is… Part of his production has to be about his game…but I’m sure part of it is also about “opportunity”…. Wonder how the other top WR prospects in this draft class would look if they were the number 1 WR in An offense wifh no RBs.. Only really competing wifh Greg Olson for balls….. KB deserves a lot of credit, but opportunity also plays a role

  193. 193 ACViking said at 3:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Hey, c’mon . . . HB Fuzzy Whitaker just scored for Carolina.

  194. 194 ACViking said at 3:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    that’s a real player

  195. 195 GEAGLE said at 3:46 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I swear I wanted to pick him up in fantasy but I didnt have the balls to start a dude named Fozzy

  196. 196 anon said at 4:03 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    good thing — he’s hurt.

  197. 197 anon said at 3:20 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    it’s a lot of pressure being no. 1 as a rookie. He leaves some things to be desired to be sure. Makes circus catches but also has drops.

  198. 198 Sean Stott said at 2:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    I really look at Tom Brady as the ideal of what Foles can and should become

  199. 199 GEAGLE said at 3:00 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    If you are a FOles fan like myself, you need to spend the next year praying that the Titans ARENT in the position to draft Marrriotta.. Ken Wisenhunt is no fool, he will know how special FOles can be, and I’m sure he will remind Him of his prized pupil Big Ben..,
    I’m petrified that the Titans will be able to draft Marriotta, because a FOles for Marriotta trade would follow..,
    .,,That’s my reoccurring nightmare for this season..
    Need the Titans to win enough games to not be the QB needy team with the highest pick in the draft…my nightmare..
    Wisenhunt would jump at the chance to get a young Big Ben he doesn’t have to go thru rookie growing pains with….
    This is the one situation I don’t trust chip with

  200. 200 Sean Stott said at 3:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That Brady over-the-top rainbow is just the best.

  201. 201 anon said at 2:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    matt prater missed 2 fgs today.

  202. 202 MaggieMagpie said at 3:00 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    As soon as a decent player lands in Detroit, he goes down the toilet. Over many years. Or so it seems. For 50 years, the Lions have had a quality player or 3, but never all at the same time and the good ones eventually give up. Prater just did it in record time.

  203. 203 ACViking said at 3:02 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    What’s the deal in Detroit?

    That team’s gonna miss the playoffs because of a season’s worth of FG kicking that occurs about as often as the 50-Year Storm in “Point Break.”

  204. 204 anon said at 3:03 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    think stafford is as much to blame. but not sure what is going on with them this year.

  205. 205 GEAGLE said at 3:05 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Thinking they lose Calvin in a year or two

  206. 206 SteveH said at 3:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    … to us. Cut everyone and make room for megatron!

  207. 207 Avery Greene said at 3:52 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah this is a conundrum to me. I think they have a ton of talent, but never seem to be able to put it together on either side of the ball.

  208. 208 GEAGLE said at 3:03 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Patriots are the worst fantasy team ever.. Some dude I never heard of catches a Td for them every week it feels like

  209. 209 anon said at 3:06 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    manning on the other hand is super predictable. only ppl getting tds have the last name thomas.

  210. 210 MaggieMagpie said at 3:07 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Thomas beats All Pro corners all day long too.

  211. 211 GEAGLE said at 3:50 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah well I need Peyton start throwing TDs to Emmanuel…if emmanuel starts getting TDs to go along with his yardage, I would have the #1 fantasy WR in the NFL… Maclin will also be elite once our offense gets it together

  212. 212 anon said at 4:00 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    yeah sanders not getting those TDs. It’s funny though i think both Thomas’ are contract year — gonna be expensive with the numbers they are putting up.

    I guess the argument can be — decker left and you see what happened to him?

  213. 213 MaggieMagpie said at 3:05 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Sorry folks. Canadian Thanksgiving is always the second Monday in October and we are having family dinner today. Also a birthday party. Will be watching game, just not at home. Have to take a few food items so won’t bother with laptop. Pumpkin pie. Mmmm. Later.

  214. 214 GEAGLE said at 3:13 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Watching this packers offense to get ready for the Giants offense.

    Like playing the Giants because it plays to our defensive strengths.. Not only will they let us sit in a nickel and Dime all game, eliminating the need for multiple ILBs …but the Giants are also kind enough to put the “move boykin outside” debate on hold for a week since they are kind enough to stick their best WR, Cruz in the slot all game….
    Fans won’t be complaining about boykin snap count this week,,.

    Most of the game Giamts will have 3 WR, 1 RB and 1 TE… Everyone talks about the young backüp RB Andre Williams… And the kid is a quality runner, but he is all types of a liability in the passing game..blocking and as a pass catcher…,
    Really like how we match up with this Giamts team… Any time we need a few yards we can always throw a screen to DRC side…that pussy isn’t tackling anyone short of a first down

  215. 215 ACViking said at 3:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Panthers CB Antoine Cason continues his campaign for the Pro Bowl.

    He’s 28. 6’1″ 195lbs. Former Chargers 1st Rd pick in ’08.

    On a 1-year deal with Carolina.

  216. 216 GEAGLE said at 3:40 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Definitely worth keeping an eye on, especially if you see his competition in this years abysmal Free agent CB market… Only decent young corners hitting the market are all 5’8-5’10… We won’t spend money on corners that lack size when we have boykin and Watkins..
    Id say Cason is def on a short list worth keeping an eye on since we don’t know how renegotiating with Cary will play out, and Bradley hitting the open market…. No way chip goes into 2015 season as contenders with rookie CB… If we play rookies they will have had to have beaten out Capable veterans..

    Buddy Ryan.. “Fastest ways to lose in the NFL, are at QB and CB”

  217. 217 ACViking said at 3:50 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Buddy knew football. for sure.

    but why on earth did he not care abt the offense?

  218. 218 GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    My reoccurring dream is chip holding an emergency press conference to announce bringing Buddy out of retirement as our DC lol

    Would love to be a fly on the wall listening to Buddya thoughts on a chip kelly offense lol

  219. 219 anon said at 3:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Joe Banner on Todd Haley: “Todd Haley gets 50 yards of offense on last two plays of half to pad his yardage stats. Hopes no one will notice how awful he is”

  220. 220 anon said at 3:27 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    41-10 baltimore. someone had a question about prevent defense.

  221. 221 GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    What type of year do the Dolphins have to have in the Pats division for Phylbin to be brought back for one more season?

    He let an absolute mess happen under his nose..but for a team that needs to redo an entire offensive line, he has done a decent job with that team
    Kind of impressed with how they came back from last years mess
    ABy chance miami holds on to this lead at home,, or is Rogers gonna do what Rogers does?.. Come on Miami… Win this game

  222. 222 ACViking said at 3:51 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    It’s the O-coordinator who’s done it.

    That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

  223. 223 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    LAZOR was going to get fired by the Eagles if he didn’t get the miami job.. Word is Nick FOles hated the arrogant prick..
    .. Nick is a friggin quaker, if he hates you, you are probably a prick of epic proportions..
    If chip knew we would get rid of LAZOR, wonder what he exposed him to and what he kept from him..

  224. 224 anon said at 3:57 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Everyone wants that Nick from last year. Maybe he’s gotta eat that relationship for the good of the team.

  225. 225 ACViking said at 4:21 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    “Nick is a friggin’ Quaker, if he hates you . . . epic proportions.”


  226. 226 anon said at 3:52 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Gotta go — you see how he treated Tanny? I just can’t get behind that.

  227. 227 GEAGLE said at 3:53 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Need him to stay one more year

  228. 228 anon said at 3:52 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    If only Rex Ryan had a QB and some receivers. Playing Denver close at home right now — all on the back of the physicality of the defense.

    Broncos at the 1yd line. Popping my popcorn — could be interesting.

  229. 229 SteveH said at 3:54 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Brian Hoyer has 217 yards on 8 completions and the Steelers are getting crushed 31-3. 8 completions and they’re losing by 4 touchdowns. What a mess the Steelers are.

  230. 230 anon said at 3:55 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Maybe you shouldn’t have the same d coord for 40years? Or is Todd Haley the real issue — b/c that’s what i think it is.

  231. 231 GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Weak to average in the trenches…when steelers were Elite, they were tough in the trenches..

    The Lines typically effect everything

  232. 232 GEAGLE said at 3:57 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yeah but aren’t all their young 1st round LBs hurt?

    I would prob be down to trade shady for Laveon

  233. 233 SteveH said at 4:02 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Cam Newton throws a pretty ball. Even when its picked off it looks nice.

  234. 234 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:11 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    That Aaron Rodgers guy can chuck the ball.

  235. 235 anon said at 4:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    what a difference a qb makes.

  236. 236 SteveH said at 4:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Wow… depending on what Branden Oliver and Zach Ertz do I might be a bunch of money today.

    Edit: haha win a bunch of money even. WTF I can’t even type strait today.

  237. 237 anon said at 4:17 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    fan duel? do tell.

  238. 238 SteveH said at 4:18 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Yep. One of my main lineups Is at 123 points with those 2 to go, and its not a super high scoring day so far.

    Now that I look at it, I have a bunch of lineups that might cash in tournaments today. I made a lot of good picks.

    Edit: Jesus I even have an Eddie Royal lineup and he just scored a long TD. Could this be my week??

  239. 239 anon said at 4:22 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    were you smart enough to start joe flacco? Ben Tate?

  240. 240 SteveH said at 4:23 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Not quite that smart, though I would argue starting those 2 would be throwing darts in the dark rather than smarts ;).

    I do however have a bunch of lineups with Andre Holmes, who is started by about .5% of teams. He already has 14.7 FDP.

  241. 241 GEAGLE said at 4:24 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Having a rough day..
    need ERTZ to score more than shady
    Maclin scores more than Cruz

    Run DMC put up more points than Oliver
    Cutler better day than Rivers
    Playing against the Lions defense that scored 23points… Need Eagle D and ST to continue to score

    Needed this win too…. It’s doable cuz I’m tied now… But not very likely

  242. 242 ACViking said at 4:24 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Aaron Rodgers had a rough game.

    Only 3 TDs w/ no INTs and “W”.

  243. 243 anon said at 4:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    SEA vs Cowboys – any predictions?

  244. 244 Avery Greene said at 4:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Seahawks. Sad it’s not the game I’m getting.

  245. 245 SteveH said at 4:25 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Marshawn Lynch goes hog wild and runs for like 180 yards.

  246. 246 anon said at 4:31 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    more rushing Russell or Lynch?

  247. 247 SteveH said at 4:34 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Lynch. Seahawks would be smart to use a power game today I think, rather than misdirection.

  248. 248 SteveH said at 4:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Romo hurt, could be bad.

  249. 249 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    What happened?

  250. 250 SteveH said at 4:39 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Took a huge shot from Bobby Wagner, he couldn’t get up for a while.

  251. 251 anon said at 4:40 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    what’s worse the hit or the punk block?

  252. 252 SteveH said at 4:41 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Romo looks like he might be ok so probably the punt block.

  253. 253 anon said at 4:48 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    cam is killing the bengals with the zone read.

  254. 254 SteveH said at 5:11 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Ugh, Bobby Wagner and Byron Maxwell already out for Seattle.

  255. 255 anon said at 5:15 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    hopefully injuries that last until after we play SEA. Media is going to be all over dallas if they take this W.

  256. 256 SteveH said at 5:16 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Cowboys OL is very very good, its the reason they’re winning. If it can handle even Seattle’s D, both in the run and the pass, you know it must be good.

  257. 257 SteveH said at 5:19 PM on October 12th, 2014:

    Seattle is being dumb, they should be attacking Dallas with Lynch and a power game, not throwing a ton and using misdirection.