Wednesday Night Update

Posted: January 28th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 41 Comments »

There is a bit of Eagles news from today.

Bicknell has done a good job with the WRs in 2 years so I’m glad he decided to stick around. DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper all had their best seasons under him. Jordan Matthews had a terrific rookie season playing for Bicknell. To be sure, playing in the Chip Kelly offense is the key to the stats, but coaching has been part of the success.

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We learned today that 2 more candidates for the personnel job won’t be talking to the Eagles. Tim McManus provides a full update on the situation.

Some teams have blocked candidates from talking to the Eagles.

Some candidates have said no, seeing this as a lateral move or possibly having concerns about the politics of the front office.

Is it possible the Eagles are waiting on someone from the Super Bowl teams? I don’t get the feeling that is the case, but you can’t rule it out at this point. Bob Quinn of the Pats, Trent Kirchner and Dan Morgan of the Seahawks could all make some sense.

Kelly is being choosy. That’s smart. He is trying to find someone to be his right-hand man. You don’t want to rush into that decision. It is frustrating that Kelly hasn’t been able to find someone yet, especially the guys we wanted. That said, the key is to hire the right guy. Who was Scott Pioli when Bill Belichick hired him? John Schneider wasn’t a household name when Pete Carroll chose him.

We should get a better feel for this situation by the middle of next week. There won’t be any more waiting on teams at that point. Kelly will need to poop or get off the pot.

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41 Comments on “Wednesday Night Update”

  1. 1 A_T_G said at 11:42 PM on January 28th, 2015:

    Lesson from the Super Bowl:

    The Seahawks have been accused of cheating through the use of steroids and the Patriots have been accused of cheating through improper ball inflation. So, while many blamed Green Bay’s loss on not having big enough balls to go for the win, both teams participating in the Super Bowl have taken illegal actions that result in unnaturally smaller balls.

  2. 2 Anders said at 4:46 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Because the Pats and the Hawks are the only two teams who cheats.

    Two facts we have to remember: Every team changes the balls to fit their QB and you can bet at least majority of your favorit players use some kind of HGH or steriods.

  3. 3 GEAGLE said at 8:14 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    thats a dumb statement… i dont believe my favorite players are on HGH or roids… cox isnt a roid head, neither is kendricks, barwin, bennie logan, Meco or Curry……. what everyone elses favorite players do is not my concern

  4. 4 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:23 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I’m pretty sure the OP was being funny.

  5. 5 Greg Richards said at 7:05 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    That just goes to show that the Eagles need to start cheating more. Instead of spending all his money on putting windmills on the top of the stadium to help save the planet or build playgrounds in the inner city, Lurie needs to use his money for nefarious purposes.

  6. 6 A_T_G said at 7:27 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I thought it meant that, instead of having him lift and get bigger, we should be trying to get a smaller Cox.

  7. 7 GEAGLE said at 8:12 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    forget cheating… i would rather dump our money into building the scariest DL and OL in the NFL anfd just start beating the crap out of teams in the trenches

  8. 8 unhinged said at 10:03 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    To that end if A Armstead is still on the board at 15 I would love to see us move up.

  9. 9 GEAGLE said at 10:21 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    armstead will fall to #20…. not sure how chip will feel… elite talent, underachiever everyone is waiting to realize his potenial.. bad enough that coaches wanted him to move to LT but he refused..
    ..
    personally i would say, we pass on Armstead, more likely to go after oregon players jake fisher, Grasu, Tony washington, pass on underachieving DE Armstead, and next year pounce on Oregon DE Deforrest Buckner(hard working over achiever)
    ..
    if i cant have Danny Shelton at 20, i would rather trade back to the 27-37 range and draft kendricks while scooping up an extra 3rd round pick or two, unless something crazy like Bud dupree falling to 20
    …
    i think the WORLD of what Arik CAN BE, but im getting tired of waiting for the light bulb to go on for that kid… deforrest Buckner IMO screams Chip Kelly DE more than Arik does…. heck cant imagine chip drafting a player high, who coaches wanted to move to LT, but the player refused. chip wants versatile all in players who will sacrafice anything for the good of the team

  10. 10 GEAGLE said at 10:25 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    arik is an entitled spoiled brat, grew up with silver spoon, and from day one everyone told him how great he would be. his dad is a NBA agent, his brothers were good athletes, arik has grown up around pro athletes his entire life and he thinks he is alot better than he really is…. if he will realize his full potential, he would be a great pick..but i been waiting for that kid for a while, and im tired of waiting for him to play hard and like a beast for 60 minutes

  11. 11 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:18 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    So the moral of the story is – you need big balls to win in the NFL!

  12. 12 A_T_G said at 9:53 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Wait, what? That is the opposite of the moral.

  13. 13 MagOvertheRainbow said at 12:51 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    So how come it’s a good thing when Bicknell says he has decided to stay with his current team, but when another guy decides to stay with his current team instead of coming to the Eagles, it’s a disaster?

  14. 14 BlindChow said at 1:34 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Because most of us are rooting for the Eagles and not the other teams.

  15. 15 Media Mike said at 5:01 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Correct 1 Eagles vs. 31 teams that aren’t the Eagles.

  16. 16 Dominik said at 7:58 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    That’s more of a loss for the 9ers, Maggie. Guess if a WR coach decides to stay put despite someone would hand him the keys to the Offense (HC comes from the defensive side) of a pretty talented roster, it speaks volumes about the ownership of that franchise. Maybe the $$ wasn’t there, too (York is known for being cheap), but it would have been a great chance for Bicknell and he didn’t want to take the job.

    I’m happy he’s back, from all what we can tell from the outside, he did a pretty good job. Cooper 2014 was flat out awful, as bad as you can play as a starter in this offense, but Coop 2013, DJax, Mac, Pope – all played well. To be fair, we’re talking 1st and 2nd round picks (+ Coop) here, but still – they delivered, can’t ask for more from a position coach.

  17. 17 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:24 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Because the reporters that cover the Eagles have to sensationalize everything.

  18. 18 Mitchell said at 1:36 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Round 2 Pick 1 (TENN): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Jalen Collins, CB, LSU (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (B)
    Round 3 Pick 2 (TENN): Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, Louisville (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 1 (TENN): Mike Davis, RB, South Carolina (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (C)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Antwan Goodley, WR, Baylor (C)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Trey DePriest, ILB, Alabama (C+)

    This is my fav so far. I think there is something in here that everyone will like.

  19. 19 SuPaFrO said at 2:13 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Where’s Coates?!?

  20. 20 Media Mike said at 5:33 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Living on in ours hearts and minds while dominating mid / late 90s Madden……………….or you weren’t asking about Ben Coates.

  21. 21 Mitchell said at 11:43 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I settled for 2 other amazing receivers in Smith and strong.

  22. 22 Media Mike said at 5:21 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Round 1 Pick 20: Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Hauoli Kikaha, OLB, Washington (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Chris Hackett, FS, TCU (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (A)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Jean Sifrin, TE, Massachusetts (C)

  23. 23 IrishEagle25 said at 5:54 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Round 1 Pick 20: Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A)
    Round 1 Pick 28 (DEN): Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio) (B)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Ameer Abdullah, RB, Nebraska (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Tony Washington, OLB, Oregon (B)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State (A)

  24. 24 GEAGLE said at 7:34 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    landon collins wont even be on the eagles draft board…. we have no use for strong safety in our scheme

  25. 25 Mitchell said at 11:45 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I tried to argue this on the Bleeding Green boards and they thought I was ridiculous…. Is he a playmaker? Kinda but we all know what happens with Alabama dbs

  26. 26 GermanEagle said at 6:10 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I was hoping for a Jane with your fourth pick.

  27. 27 GEAGLE said at 7:57 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    good chance the eagles have a level of interest in your first 5 picks… more than who we draft, im concerned with getting extra picks this year..
    …
    if i cant have Danny Shelton at 20, or if i dont find a player available at 20 that i never imagined falling to us, i would so much rather trade back like we did last year to 26 and get an extra 3rd. from 26 the vikings offered us a chance to trade back again but we turned it down because we thought arizona would have stolen maaaaarcus Daaaarling. but if we arent surprised by a player being available at 20, wouldnt mind trading back twice, getting two extra 3rds, and end up making our first pick in the top 5 of round two…. which would mean we have no first round pick, but we would have two second round picks(top 5 and #20), three 3rd rounders and two 4ths(bryce brown)
    …
    then if we really want to get carried away, we can try to trade away our 2016 first rounder for a pick in the middle of round 2, if we improve enough that 1st round pick next year will be a late round 1 pick anyway… so i wouldnt mind trading a late first next year for an extra 2nd this year…….. also wouldnt mind trying to get a late second or a mid 3rd for Vinny Curry, since we will lose him after this year.. if someone is offering much better draft pick then the compensatory pick we would get for losing him in Free agency, i would consider it… of course Id rather trade vinny for an OLB…

  28. 28 Media Mike said at 5:10 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    I appreciate taking time to make the right hire, but I’m still hopeful it isn’t some stiff working off of his father’s rep or an in-house flunky.

  29. 29 GEAGLE said at 8:03 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    this isnt a GM job, this is an assistant GM job…. why would anyone expect some rising front office star league wide to take an assistant GM job with us?… this assistant GM job is to oversea and delegate to the scouts, collect all their data, and make sure chip has all the info he needs when its time to make a decision….. this assistant GM isnt going to get to select players we draft…. chip is the GM….. i really dont get why this is such a big deal, especially since when they finally do hire someone, we wont have enough intel to know if it was a great hire or not…. heck, we wont even know if the guy that gets hired is doing a good job for us or not, lol so im confused as to why everyone cares and why anyone would think they have enough intel to be able to even judge the hire lol

  30. 30 Greg Richards said at 7:09 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    John Middlekauf, formerly an Eagles’ scout and now a sports radio host in SF area, tweeted this:

    John Middlekauff

    @JohnMiddlekauff

    10h
    10 hours ago

    The NFL is like high school, everyone talks. Execs know how Chip really
    views the GM position, like coaches know what Jed really did to Jim

    I asked him to clarify whether he meant the GM position in general or Roseman specifically but he didn’t respond. Just from the quote itself, it’s the GM position in general. So it seems like Chip is just looking for an errand boy. A guy to provide the answer for “I’m taking Oregon guy A and Oregon guy B in the first 2 rounds. Which one should I take in the 1st and which guy should I take in the 2nd?”

  31. 31 anon said at 7:35 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    wow

  32. 32 GEAGLE said at 7:41 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    think everyone is over reacting to this GM search…. when the Eagles were looking for a new head coach, we took our sweet Ol time, and all the fans and media were getting impatient, bullshit rumors about no one wanting to coach the eagles blah blah blah, then we landed chip, the biggest coaching name on the market
    …
    doubt chip is in as much of a hurry as everyone else is… just being thorough, dont over react to the media stupidity. didnt we learn when jason laconfora said no one wanted to coach the eagles just because we didnt hire a coach as fast as everyone would have liked??.. hire someone before march, and problem solved.
    ..
    no reason to over react to being thorough…

  33. 33 GEAGLE said at 7:47 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    first of all, this isnt even a GM search, so cut the crap…,. we have a GM in place and his name is chip kelly… this is like an assistant GM search and we are getting carried away over it not even being febuary yet and we havent hired an assistant GM? LOL.;….ok…. sky is falling? lol

  34. 34 anon said at 7:48 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    we gave chip money and power and the more power to keep him

  35. 35 GEAGLE said at 7:48 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    and….?

  36. 36 ICDogg said at 8:20 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    I’m just replying so I won’t get fined

  37. 37 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:16 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Remember back in 2012 when Reid needed a new Defensive Coordinator and the search took f o r e v e r. We thought he was waiting for teams like Green Bay who were in the playoffs – and then the beginning of the end happened – he promoted Juan Castillio.

  38. 38 GEAGLE said at 8:35 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    remember when Reid was fired and we took so long to hire a new coach, and the media hacks and the morons started saying no one wanted to coach the eagles, and then Howie lands Chip kelly, the most coveted coach on the market that year? whats your point?….
    ..’
    people are shocked GMs and aspiring GMs arent fighting over the eagles assistant GM position? lol
    …
    its going to be Marynowitz, this is all a waste of time

  39. 39 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:41 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    Calm down GEAGLE.

    My point is we never know what’s really happening behind the scenes.

  40. 40 GEAGLE said at 9:22 AM on January 29th, 2015:

    calm down? did you hear me scream or something lol? do you see any exclmation points or words written in capital? how about you calm down son…
    …
    we never know whats really happening, but we will just go into our automatic default negativity, sky is falling mode? gotcha….

  41. 41 NinjaP said at 5:35 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    That moron Lurie should have fired Roseman.