2015 Offseason Overview
Posted: March 10th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 2,148 Comments »Happy Free Agency Day!!!
Be patient. Signings don’t officially start until 4pm. Give the Eagles til 430pm before you start complaining about the lack of activity.
Normally I put together a comprehensive offseason plan every year. I’ve been working on it for a couple of weeks, but kept hitting some odd stumbling blocks. The biggest is Marcus Mariota. A normal plan involved signing 1 or 2 key free agents, 2 or 3 mid-level guys and then focusing on the draft.
This year is different. If Chip Kelly really wants to move up for Mariota, the Eagles have to be aggressive in free agency. That could mean 5 or 6 signings. He can’t count on a draft pick until the 4th round. And those guys rarely step in and do much as rookies.
Then the Eagles traded LeSean McCoy. That wasn’t part of my plan and affected my thinking quite a bit. I was surprised at cutting Todd Herremans, Trent Cole and Cary Williams. I figured 2 of them would be back on reduced deals. So clearly I had no idea where Chip was headed.
Most people feel like Chip is thinking this way…load up the defense with talent, the offense can have some of its success due to the scheme. That is an over-simplification, but is probably somewhat right. Chip was willing to pay Frank Gore $5M a year. He was offering Jeremy Maclin just under $10M a year. You can’t say that he’s ignoring the offense. He just feels like that is the side of the ball where he can be more frugal because he can succeed with lesser talent. Anyone who watched the secondary for the last 2 years knows that group could not succeed with lesser talent.
First, let’s talk about the team right now. The Eagles went 10-6 each of the past 2 years. They have a talented roster and a pretty good mixture of youth and experience. Kelly is trying to do something very hard. He’s trying to make a good team great.
Can the Eagles go from a good team to a great team this offseason? Yes, but unfortunately that isn’t likely. It is more realistic to think of that as a 2-year process. And that would require that Chip Kelly and Ed Marynowitz make plenty of good moves and hit a couple of home runs.
Let’s look at the starting lineup as of right now.
QB Nick Foles
RB
WR
WR Jordan Matthews
WR Riley Cooper
TE Brent Celek / Zach Ertz
LT Jason Peters
LG Evan Mathis
C Jason Kelce
RG
RT Lane Johnson
OLB Brandon Graham
DE Fletcher Cox
NT Bennie Logan
DE Cedric Thornton
OLB Connor Barwin
ILB Mychal Kendricks
ILB Kiko Alonso
S
S Malcolm Jenkins
CB
CB Byron Maxwell
P Donnie Jones
K Cody Parkey
LS Jon Dorenbos
The Eagles thought they had RB solved with Frank Gore. That is now back to wide open, with Gore leaning toward going to the Colts. We’ll see how that plays out.
With Maclin headed to KC, there is a hole that must be filled. If the Eagles didn’t want to make a strong push for Mariota, they could focus on getting a WR early in the draft.
RG is a mystery spot. The Eagles have Allen Barbre, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner on the roster now. Barbre would be the most likely option at this point. Gardner and Tobin each made multiple starts at RG in 2014. They were adequate, but nothing more. Reportedly the Eagles made a run at Orlando Franklin, but he got big bucks from the Chargers. The Eagles could use a pick on a G and have him compete with the guys on the roster.
My guess is that the Eagles will land a good Safety in free agency. They did so last year with Jenkins. They made a strong run at Devin McCourty, but Emperor Belichick blackmailed him into staying in New England. The media calls it “re-signing” but we know what really happened.
More than a few people have asked about Nolan Carroll taking over at S. I don’t see that happening. I think he could make the move, but the goal is to get good Safety play. I don’t think Carroll would move there and thrive. I’d rather keep him as a backup CB and Dime LB.
The other starting corner spot will likely be another free agent signing. There have been rumors about Tramon Williams. The Eagles have Jaylen Watkins on the roster. They will almost certainly draft at least one CB. Those guys need time to develop. Signing a veteran buys the Eagles a year or two.
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I do think Chip wants to make a run at Mariota so he needs to fill holes with FAs where possible. Who might be targeted in the next week?
RB
I’d love to see DeMarco Murray drop his price and come to Philly but that isn’t likely. I’ve been a fan of Justin Forsett’s since college (Cal), but Kelly might want a more physical runner. Several guys are coming off injury. Ryan Mathews is the most interesting. He has big time ability when he’s healthy. Stevan Ridley is coming off a torn ACL and has fumbling issues, but is very talented. Roy Helu is healthy, but isn’t a proven starter. He could be an interesting name. He is a good receiver and solid runner.
WR
Houston cut Andre Johnson and you can’t help but wonder if he’s a guy they might like on a short term deal. Johnson is a descending player to be sure, but still caught 85 passes last year. The most interesting young guy is Michael Crabtree. He is inconsistent, but part of that is on the erratic SF passing game. Crabtree could thrive in Kelly’s system. I would not break the bank for him. Also not sure if he’s Kelly’s kind of guy. Seems like a bit of a prima dona and isn’t a great blocker. I have no idea if the Eagles are the least bit interested in Percy Harvin. He’s certainly a great talent. One guy I like as a reclamation project is Hakeem Nicks. He’s got huge hands. Good RAC skills. Can be physical. Not sure why the drop-off in recent years.
Eagles could be patient and see if any other veterans are cut (Mike Wallace, Pierre Garcon). They could also try to trade for Vincent Jackson, who they looked into last October.
RG
There aren’t great options. Clint Boling of the Bengals is interesting. I was a huge fan of his coming out of Georgia. He isn’t the athlete that Kelly normally wants, but Boling looks better on tape than he does on paper. Does a solid job of blocking on the move when you watch him. Played mostly LG in Cincy. Played lots of RG in college. Also has LT and RT experience. Not worth throwing big money at, but worth talking to. Stefen Wisniewski has played mostly C in the NFL. I haven’t had a chance to study him yet. I don’t have a good feel for what’s going to happen at RG.
S
There are 2 key targets…Rahim Moore and Marcus Gilchrist. Moore is more of a centerfielder type. That’s what I think the Eagles need, but they prefer interchangeable Safeties. They like versatile guys. That would be Gilchrist. Put on the SF game and you see him deep a lot. Put in the DEN game and you see him in the slot a lot. There are other times when he plays in the box. Gilchrist isn’t a great player, but he fits what Bill Davis wants and could team well with Jenkins. Da’Norris Searcy is an interesting option as well. Ron Parker is a player being mentioned as a possible target. I have watched some tape of him, but he failed to stand out.
CB
Tramon Williams is the player who makes the most sense. He’s older, but that’s fine with the Eagles plan. They only need someone to start for a year or two. Davon House is a good young player. He’s got upside, but is also a risk since he doesn’t have a ton of starting experience. I cannot imagine the Eagles will try to bid for Darrelle Revis. He’s going to cost a ton. Mid-level guys like Alan Ball and Walter Thurmond III could be of interest.
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My number one goal is getting a good Safety. My preference is Rahim Moore or Marcus Gilchrist.
I also want a veteran CB.
RG is a spot that can wait. The Eagles have bodies there. If the right guy is available at the right price, sign him. The only one who stands out to me is Boling.
There is no RB I covet. I love the thought of Murray, but only at the right price. I think his downhill, power style would be fun to watch in Chip’s offense.
WR is another spot where there is no clear-cut target. I do admit that it would be fun to see Andre Johnson playing for the Eagles.
As much as anything, I”m looking forward to seeing what Chip does. I haven’t had a great feel for his moves so far this offseason. He does things in his own way.
The key to the offseason is figuring out what to do at QB. Do we go for Mariota or build around Nick Foles? Is there someone else Chip secretly covets? I’ll cover QB in a separate post. For now, let’s focus on finding some good free agents.
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Why haven’t the Eagles signed anyone yet? Asleep at the wheel!
considering we keep giving away talent, and havent been able to sign any,. would you be dying to come here?… surprised Maxwell isnt trying to back out of our contract…. before free agency NFL players probably viewed the eagles as a team that would try and get over the hump this year…. then you watch them jettison 9 players, get a #1 CB, and a backup ILB Jones, and traded for Kiko….. with uncertainty about chip wanting to go young at QB… teams prolly started off looking at us as contenders, and i doubt they have that same opinionm of us now
Virgil Green, who some of you coveted, is re-signing with Denver.
they clearly arent listening to me
How far does Murray’s price have to fall? I would take him at 6.5/year
Think Cowboys would re-sign him at that price. I think he takes the money from Oakland, JAX, or TB. TB has been linked to him. If they signed him, I wonder if Doug Martin is attainable.
I would love to pay him in the Jamaal Charles area, with some protection against him falling of the face of the earth
Safety has to be the priority. Plenty of CB in FA and Draft
Sign some S now, and draft CB and WR/RB early.
Polk and Sproles can handle, althought i like to see Gore in green uniform. My favorite non-Eagle player.
Trade-up for a top WR sounds good to me too, if we don’t sign anyone very good in FA.
You’re suggesting these things without factoring the possible trade up for Mariota. Not saying it is or isn’t going to happen but if Chip is trying to fill all the major holes through FA then it makes it seem like we will try to make that trade. Which would render us with no picks to grab these players you are suggesting.
Yeah, earlier, when tempering was able, I think he was going all-in for Mariota because plenty of cap space usually compensates lack of picks, but we have many holes.
Those are very important now
I agree. I would love for him to stick with Foles and build up the roster but with such secrecy who the hell knows what Chip is thinking.
Can you say Nate Allen?
It’s better start Nolan Carroll at CB than Allen at S.
“Trade-up for a top WR sounds good to me too, if we don’t sign anyone very good in FA.”
NOOOOO
I prefer a guy like Crabtree, but we must not let Cooper be the WR1.
Nicks would be very interesting.
I do wonder what AR would want for Knile Davis.
I like Nicks but can he stay healthy? Doesn’t seem like the same guy after the foot problems with the Giants
Started to show old form toward end of year.
Apparently the Pats are going to decline Brandon Browner’s option and the Pats are allowing him to guage other teams’ interest. Jeff McLane says he’s a “name to watch” for the Eagles. That’s vague whether he’s just speculating or has sourced info.
Per local radio, he wasn’t that good.
https://twitter.com/RacistChip
must follow, the WR part is great
ROFL – I love comedy.
“If only Cooper and Maehl were my starting wideouts…Oh Wait!”
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That account is hilarious.
amazing
Do you have that video of Steven A. over in Africa helping out the people of his race , that he pretends to care about so much?
Quasi-WR option available!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
20s21 seconds ago
The #Saints have called around, open to shopping many of their players, source say. One notable player included: TE Jimmy Graham. For real.
Graham = Cracker = #culture
Get that man!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
24s25 seconds ago
Jimmy Graham signed a 4-year, $40M deal last year. Has a $5M roster bonus due in 2 days. Clock is ticking for a #Saints deal.
When did OG Jahri Evans become a FA?
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He’s been mentioned as a possible cap casualty, but it hasn’t happened yet.
Would love to see philly sign Moore out of Oakland. Kind of a sleeper who wouldnt cost too much. The same can be said about the Safety Moore from Denver. He’s only 25 and would be a great compliment to Jenkins. As for half-back, im not too sure. Cj Spiller would be nice, but hes gonna get paid a lot. Ryan Matthews would fit, but hes fragile. Murray for a decent price is ideal, but if hes going to take less money it will be with Dallas. Forsett is getting up their in age, and this year might just be a one year wonder. I feel like we have to at least fill a 1 guy at every hole if we are gonna sell this draft for mariota, which im fine with.
can not allow Ryan Mathews to bring is soft brand of football into our city…
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Forsett or draft a kid in the 4th
you are right. not sure which back slips to the 4th that kelly would like. the draft is extremely deep at rb though so im sure he’ll find someone. as of right now i trust polk as our goaline runner, sproles as the 3rd down back, and potential pick/sign to have a rb by committee.
OK 20 minutes…You’d think at my age…over 50…I wouldn’t be so excited about FA like this. I have my loud Hawaiian print towel ready to dry off after our FA splash…Aloha.
Don’t make us all sit around and contemplate how sad our lives are that we’re getting all excited about this.
Jay Glazer
@JayGlazer
40s40 seconds ago
The Saints and Seahawks are trying to finalize trade Jimmy Graham and a 4th rounder for Max Unger and Seattle first rounder
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The rich get richer…
Wow, that’s crazy
It’s what happens when you constantly push salary to future years. You’re forced to make moves like this.
Sorry, but Seattle is stupid, trading 2 1st rounds picks in a row?
Jimmy G and Marshawn? W/ that defense? I’m glad we played them last year.
But Wilson just lost his 2 best OLs, they have zero OL right now.
don’t even need them. he’ll just bootleg, very rarely throws from pocket.
I am not sure if another Jimmy Graham could have been had at #31…
Ryan Mathews is the softest RB in the NFL.. going into the chargers game chips first year, i said he was so soft that the would fumble…. guess what happened?
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If we wanted to trade for Marriotta, i thought we needed to make 5-6 signings….how many signings do we need make after like 3 extra unexpected cuts? i also not sure that we are done cutting people so there could be more.
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i love how in one breathe we can just casual fill whatever holes in the draft, but in the next breathe we are trading away everything for a Hawiian QB to come play in the NFC east…. are we going to have draft picks or not?
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we have a lot already invested in the OL, yet we felt the need to try and sign one of the two most expensive Guards in the market, we missed… yet we can be ok letting Tobin, Garner, and Barbre compete for the starting spot? then what the hell were we trying to spend 30mil on a guard for?
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If they dont end up with Rahim, or Gilchrist, i have no words to even describe what I would feel..
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Lets see, as of now we need to draft:
1) starting caliber Guard
2) WR
3)CB
4) OLB (we need a 4th, Braman doesnt count)
5) might need a RB
6) Might need a TE (lost Casey, prolly Celeks last year, we probably want to carry 4 TE’s anyway)
7) might want to get an interior pass rusher this year, so he can be ready to replace Curry when we lose him after this year
8) possibly a safety
,…
how many draft picks are we trading away for another young QB, as if the one we have is done improving?
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Gilchrist, Rahim, Clint B, Forsett, maybe Cecil Short or Denarrious Moore,
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if we cant get one of those players just put an end to free agency. Rather fill the roster with undrafted young players then to just sign free agents just to sign them
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im surprised Maxwell isnt backing out of his deal with us considering what we lost and how little we added. fingers crossed he is already bering held prisoner at Novacare until he signs the damn contract
that’s a lot even if we were just drafting players, especially considering how we’ve been drafting
Why don’t you wait a couple of days and see what we actually end up doing before you go into rant mode?
im surprised Maxwell isnt backing out of his deal with us considering what we lost and how little we added. fingers crossed he is already bering held prisoner at Novacare until he signs the damn contract
I have to admit that crossed my mind as well..
Think this has crossed all our minds:/
RE: Foles or Mariota
Interesting dilemma. If Chip moves on from Foles, what would the real reason be? I tried to think of some and here goes:
– Chip thinks MM is a special player
– Org is worried about Foles health (or lack thereof)
– Thinks Foles 2014 was more indicative than 2013
Another thing to think about is if Chip doesn’t get MM, does that mean Foles is constantly looking over his shoulder? Does he lose faith in the club or Chip?
What happens if Chip goes after a completely different QB in the draft and jettisons Barkley?
Lots of interesting story lines moving forward.
Try Bradford or Mariota pal! Hahahahahahahs
I really hope this isn’t true.
Schefty reporting it’s true.
Its brilliant! Gets us to #10 with conditional pick and Bradford to offer the titans for Mariota. Im all over this shit, Chip is the mad genius!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
51s51 seconds ago
#Saints have a deal. They’re working out the logistics of sending TE Jimmy Graham & 4th to #Seahawks for Unger & 1st (@JayGlazer noted 1st)
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
53s53 seconds ago
Saints have spoken to Seattle and at least one other team about a potential Jimmy Graham trade as @JayGlazer and @RapSheet reported.
So you’re saying there’s a chance….
Riley Pooper straight up for Graham!
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
34s35 seconds ago
Trade final: Jimmy Graham to Seattle, per Seahawks official.
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Rahim Moore may not sign for a few days. He had a nasty case of compartment syndrome in 2013 and almost lost his leg. Teams may want to get him in for a medical before offering.
ya not sure if thats something that just comes back though or lingers. I suppose its always smart to be safe and check though, good point.
True, but all of these rumored signings are contingent on passing the physical. There were reported signings last year(Saffold by OAK, Schofield by Lions) that were scuttled by the medicals.
seahawks are getting Jimmy Graham, saints are getting Center Max Unger and draft picks
Unger and a 1st for Graham and a 4th
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
27s27 seconds ago
Kiko Alonso has already been in and out of Philly for physical. Will
officially become Eagle momentarily. Back to Calif to finish rehab.
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So am I the only one with espn on the tv…phone in my hand….tablet open…?
depends what you’re doing with your other hand…
Holy crap!!
Graham to Seahawks!!!
beat me by a while on this. dang
When will we be contenders lol some teams are straight up stacked
dont we have to spend some money here, Im getting impatient and its only just started
Some teams are like dream teams.
takes time…we were terrible. some eagles fans are delusional.
This. 4-12 does not mean we were a stacked team before. Takes time to turn over a bad roster with only a few pieces.
I liked the strides the D made over last year. I’d like to see that from Foles this year, but no one has any idea who our starting QB is going to be next year.
we’re treading water. need a franchise qb AND years of good drafts or a great draft
Aaron Wilson
@RavensInsider
32s32 seconds ago
Haloti Ngata traded to Detroit Lions, according to a source
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Haloti Ngata Traded to the Lions….
Why would Ravens trade Ngata away? Too high a price tag? What did they get?
he didn’t want to take a pay cut. They didn’t have $$ to keep him.
So Lions giving him Suh’s money?
his rookie $, basically. They’ll probably extend him. Good move for them.
T minus 5 minutes and counting….
Some blockbuter moves, none involving Eagles.
Saints traded away their 2nd biggest star!! Fire Sean Payton. Send him to some college job!! He is too arrogant, overbearing!! Maybe even a racist!!
half racist
jimmy graham to seattle
Sam Bradford?
Whoaaaa
Sam Bradford to Eagles. Don’t like.
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
20s20 seconds ago
Filed to ESPN: Rams close to trading QB Sam Bradford to Philadelphia for Nick Foles and draft-pick compensation, per sources.
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That’s terrible.
Why
Hahahahahaha YES!!! Foles going to play with a top ranked defense in a city who will appreciate him. Good for him!!! Hahahaha Sam Bradford hahahaha i can’t stop laughing
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/575385148763561984
Why isn’t Foles worth more than Bradford? Shouldn’t we be getting picks, too?
I’m not the biggest NF fan, but this better be a First that’s coming back.
We’re sending them picks with Foles. Terrible.
and we’re taking sames $13M? CK must HATE foles
I can’t believe this. This cannot be happening.
awful if we are giving up picks.
WHAT??? WHY SAM BRADFORD???????????
ewwwww Bradford…why?
Please tell me we are going to flip stupid Bradford. But STL couldn’t trade him with that salary, why should we?
I blame Pat Shurmur. Why’d Chip start listening to him now?
We’re giving them a pick!?!? Fuggin kidding me
said each side is swapping. guess how NO and Sea did 1st and 4th.
We’ll see who gets a pick. That detail is often misreported when player-for-player trades are first announced.
I think we are getting the pick
mclane reporting its a done deal. goddamnit. only qb i hate more than bradford is stafford
McLane is saying it’s for draft picks. Maybe Bradford is getting flipped to TEN?
only thing that could piss me off more is signing nate allen. whelp, i live in myrtle beach, september is still nice, probably go dog shopping here in a month.
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sux being an eagles fan. it’s relentless
yeah me too, 100% terrible. 2 ACLs back to back and not even good before that AND he’s on the last year of his deal.
might as well sign nate. turn the knife.
don’t rule it out. Fletch might even be back.
and sanchez !!
how much do you watch when you hate your starter and hate your backup
I’m sick to my stomach
hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA “bRILLIANT” “gENIUS”… i swear i cant stop laughing,. i think im cracking up
I swear to god you are bi-polar
Yea bro you gonna be ok? You’re an emotional mess right now. Calm down and lets get the details before your heart explodes.
i swear to god im thrilled…. tired of listening to this city devalue him. he went to play for a top defense I like to watch… i would have prefered him going to the bills, but i can live with the rams….
lol Oh ight I was just making sure man you were going nuts I didn’t know which way to think.
chip has gone full retard…you never go full retard…
Foles plus a draft pick for Sam Bradford?????????????????
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
43s44 seconds ago
Excuse me, it’s Sam Bradford for Nick Foles, but picks are supposed to be involved. More to come.
And this is when hell will freeze.
Oh wow..i’m not happy about this at all…let me calm down, gonna take a walk around my office and hope that by the time i come back we find out this news was from a fake account or something
https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/575385983413325824
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
15s15 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.
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I’ll believe it when it’s done. The Pats always win.
Maybe we can trade Sam Bradford to the Rams for their #10 to draft Hundley! lol.
Report: Nick Foles, picks traded to St. Louis Rams for QB Sam Bradford
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/575386862329581568
So who gets picks?
can you just paste the whole tweet in here, so we don’t have to click and be sent off this page to see what you are trying to tell us?
doen’st say anthing you don’t know.
Sorry, it should have embedded the tweet
Let’s have some faith. It’s clear this is a move for MM right? We aren’t getting stuck w/ sam bradford right? This is going to be a 2nd rd pick right? right?
Is Sam Bradford white?
up is down, down is up.
3 weeks sober shot in the ass! miller lite time
please tell me this is a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it soon
after everything else that happened, can you really be that upset? we lost some of our most talent players for nothing.. might as well give away Nick while we are at it…. someone tie MAXWELL up at novacare before he tries to run away and back out of the deal
The Rams blog called looking for you.
Where’s OD, is this what he was talking about?
OD, PLEASE tell me this is a prelude to something more. Because I cannot handle Sam Bradford being the QB of this team. He won’t make it out of freaking TC in one piece.
I can imagine the Simpsons scenes where the angry riot is outside OD’s door.
Think I just popped my knee getting up to get the whiskey..
perfect post, wheres my liquor. Do I have to stay at work
Well this sucks
Sam Bradford? Tommy’s resident Caucasian QB hater is gonna hate this, I look forward to the 5 paragraph review!
What is Chip doing!!!
CK is the new Hinkie. He’s getting injured players to put on the shelf for a year so we can get the #1 pick in 2016.
doubt it. he’d have done it for mariota
Geoff Mosher
@GeoffMosherCSN
41s41 seconds ago
Trade of Foles to Rams agreed upon, per source. Details still be working out.
I want details, dammit. Who gets picks? Conflicting info.
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It better be foles for stafford and #10 pick,nba salary dump style
now that would be interesting. That’s what the cap room was for!
I would love that. Make sense if you can manage the cap, that you can buy high drafts by taking trash contracts
play bradford for (see even wrote stafford above, i hate them both equally) 6 weeks Vick style. play him till he pops. easier to move from 10 to 6.
what the hell!!!!! Why did we trade for BRADFORD?!?!
so we can repackage him to Tennessee
I’m done
Other FA news:
LB Malcolm Smith to OAK
DT Stephen Paea to WAS
LB Brooks Reed, LB Justin Durant to ATL
CB Buster Skrine to NYJ
wow chips falling fast.
Oakland once again acquires a SB MVP — for way too much money.
I had utmost faith in Kelly. I think I have truly lost it. If this goes bad then this franchise is destroyed for years.
Ya know…Frank Gore and Andre Johnson seem like real good stand-up guys. Maclin too. I’m glad they bailed on this dumpster fire like they did. Best decision they could have made in my opinion.
probably heard the trade rumors and decided to bolt.
If this move isn’t a precusor for some kind of unheard of three team parlay into a top pick that becomes Mariota, I’m done. I’m seriously thinking about becoming a bills fan and maybe I’ll come back to philly when the Chip Kelly/Sam Bradford era is over.
If you’re willing to swtich teams just to switch back then you can move on to the bills. Nobody misses band wagon jumpers.
I’ve been a fan for 30 years and haven’t missed a single snap. Been a loyal season ticket holder for every one of those years. I’ve had plenty of opportunities to jump on or off the band wagon. Allow me one emotional break down in all those years, cause ya know…Sam Bradford
Take deep breathes. This could still end well.
LOL if your definition of ending well is getting MM…. i have a different definition
What the hell is Chip Kelly doing?????
This must involve a third team. Why would Chip prefer Bradford to Foles?!
And the best part is Chip wont be speaking until the owners meetings so allot of waiting and chatter before then…
Its for the 10th pick. The Bradford bit is a Cap dump
All in for Mariota it seems
Breer is saying we get Rams’ 2nd round pick.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1m1 minute ago
Looks like the pick going with Sam Bradford to Philly is a second-rounder.
hahahahahaha we ate sam bradfords salary for a 2nd? bwahahahahahhaha howie has to be dying laughing in his new office/former janitors closet
This makes mark sanchez’s incentives make more sense. Of course he may have to play.
Let’s hope that draft pick is #10
Am I crazy to be holding out hope that the draft pick compensation is us exchanging first round draft choices with the Rams? Or did we literally just trade Foles and a pick for Sam Bradford?
2nd rd pick dude,,,
well, there goes any good will Chip Kelly may have had
This pretty much shows us its either Bradford or Sanchez that are the starting QBs going forward this year.. WTF!!! lol
2nd rounder coming to us
might as well cut Jason Peters, Mathis, Celek, Meco… full rebuild
I thought you only cared about the defense???? Where is this you can do anything you want with the offense just dont mess with my Philly D?
wtf you want from me… im like the only person that doesnt mind the foles trade and i probably believe in him more thenm any of you… if i didnt care about offense before, without Foles I really dont give a shit…. btw, im talking about slary cap dumps, not how to build an offense….. wake me up when you have a decent OL
@albertbreer
“Looks like the pick going with Sam Bradford to Philly is a second-rounder.”
ammo i suppose for MM.
Thank god we are not giving the picks away
oh cuz that would make such a difference at this point LOL
We better be getting a 1 or 2 back
Really thinking Bradford goes to TEN as part of trade package. Or Tampa. Or Jets.
but why wouldn’t they just trade directly.
Cap dump. Haven’t you been following the sixers?
Jk
It’s still early. Take a pill, eat a banana and take a deep breath. More trades must be imminent.
If by banana, you mean an entire Xanax bar…I’m way ahead of you.
we get no pick? nothing else? i’m speechless i can’t talk if we get nothing besides a broke qb
Breer says we’re getting Rams’ 2nd round pick.
and now saying a swap of picks and conditional next year, so sounds like we are swapping 1st’s and pick next depending on Foles
What a disappointing start to fa
word to that. I am shocked.
Following the sixers…
Is chip secretly doing whatever Hinkie tells him?
you wish!!! hinkie gets top value for his assets
Well that makes it much better, thoughts of giving up a pick with foles was just crazy
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
35s35 seconds ago
Alright… The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
I guess reporters are still nailing down details.
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Do we swap picks to move up?
At one point, he said we get a 2nd. So maybe we give up a later round pick this year plus we get a conditional pick next year.
If the conditional picks is supposed to be a 2nd rounder, I actually like the trade, assuming we dont fuck it up and actually get Marcus Mariota. Allows us to trade next years 2nd too, and still might end up with the Rams pick in that area.
Pretty great trade, Might just cost next year’s first and 2 seconds to get into striking distance
what is it with kelly and ACL’s. there’s 1500+players on NFL rosters, go after one without an dang blown knee
Bradford’s got an arm. no knee but an arm
sure…I have an arm too. And, just like Bradford I’ve never attempted an NFL pass of more than 20 yards
In yesterday’s thread . . . I suggested the Eagles acquire Bradford for Foles, with a swap of 1sts.
But I was kidding!
Stop kidding. Chip is listening and following your advice.
I still have faith this is working out. Just hang in there people.
You must not have been an Eagles fan (or an NFL fan) very long.
What Chip is doing merits plenty of skepticism. Teams don’t generally get better by stripping their roster of Pro Bowl players and replacing them with totally unknown quantities. Given historical draft and free agency outcomes it’s more likely that this turns into a total franchise-wrecking disaster and sets the team back years than that it produces a Super Bowl champion.
thanks for the personal attack. I’m plenty a fan and not stupid either. I think most of his moves so far have made sense.
Seems like full rebuild should have happened two years ago.
At least Nick is going to a decent situation, the rams are a good team waiting to happen with some competent QB play – he can be it.
If he turns into the quarterback he looked like in 2013, this will go down as a dark day in Eagles history.
he’s on a stacked team he’llbe pretty good.
Jergenson -Snead comes to mind.
It was horrible then, could be horrible now.
yep
Bradford makes $16mil this year and is the only QB in the NFL that can’t out throw Mark Sanchez. I guess Chip really hated seeing safeties play deep against the Eagles offense. With this group of WRs and Bradford playing QB we’ll essentially be running screens and dump offs with the occasional Chris Polk handoff on offense.
who cares it’s MM throwing the ball for us.
Bradford has a good arm
6.29 career YPA. short passer sorry.
yeah he’s terrible.
We’ve got the #10 pick now and a 2016 conditional. Bradford is either sitting the bench or getting re-traded. We’re in full mariota mode.
sow e can someone else to take Bradford now?
we shouldn’t bash him then
yeah let’s talk him up in the blogs in case the are listening
ohhhhh ok wait a second….we exchanged 1st rounders too? I hadn’t heard about that? That changes everything…please disregard every over the top, hyperbolic, over-reacting post I just knocked out over the last 15 min
need confirmation.
ive gone completely retraded just following the comments !!
I posted bad info before. His cap hit with the Rams was that amount but that included prorated SB. That stays as dead money with STL and we’re “just” on the books for his $12M plus salary.
N/M this is a pretty good trade. We move to 10, Sammy B gets dumped or traded. Move to 2 from 10 is WAY easier. This must be the first piece.
yay I like it
A:
Confirmation on swap of 1sts?
Where did you see that we move to 10?
Swap of firsts moves us to #10.
Breer just said swap of picks, didn’t say 1st round picks were involved.
Is that swap confirmed?
If so, a No. 2 in 2015 and 2016 gets Eagles to No. 1 or 2.
Please be right bro! lol
chip is moving earth moon and stars to get his boy. this better work
that seems like an awful big price to pay for Foles. Cmon someone confirm this already, Im dyin hea
someone who is saying we swap firsts needs a GD legal cite. Now please.
Breer is saying a swap of picks and a conditional next year for us. Sounds really vague tho. And espn and shefter still saying pick from us. So let’s wait before we punch a baby
WHATS STEPHEN A SAYING ??
I’m fed up. I think Nick can be a franchise player. Better get MM or this whole shit is a bust
Foles can’t run nearly as fast as the 1-legged Bradford, apparently.
Not only must they get MM, he has to be a flat out stud. If he’s anything less than a franchise quarterback, this trade could be a disaster.
nah, if Foles is just average, they gambled on a franchise QB. Now they better get MM first
That’s why I said “could” be a disaster. If Foles turns out to be a franchise QB and MM doesn’t, say hello to one of the worst trades in NFL history.
I hope Byron Maxwell is on a plane to Philly
ID BE ON a plane out of philly if i were him
You mean, before he’s traded?
Didinger said the Rams must be thrilled, they were even thinking about cutting Bradford even with the 13 million owed to him cause of the injuries
Total N.B.A trade.
But only way this makes sense is if Eagles get to No. 10.
Otherwise . . . wtf?
If it doesn’t get them to 10, Chip is either drunk or has been paid off by Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones to sabotage the Eagles.
True he said unless this is something for the grand plan, whatever that is.
Ok . . . so where’s Part-2 of the Trade-Up-The-Ladder to No. 1?
Why hasn’t it been announced?
OregonDucker ?
We just traded Nick Foles for Sam Bradford for a swap of picks.
My guess is that is swap of 1st’s
Correct, ACV is wondering how we go from 10 to 1,2,3 to pick Mariotta
“Let’s look at the starting lineup as of right now.
QB Nick Foles”
Oh look at that. I just pooped myself.
For clarity, i’m hoping for swapped first this year — that’s me reading the tea leaves — need confirmation.
Albert Breer reported it
reported what
No, he just said swap of picks, he didn’t say 1st round picks
you could be more specific.
i tossed this trade out before, but didnt have Bradford invovled. cant stand him, and his 16m salary. guess eags can cut him.
they gotta eat the salary unless they can move him. But thats gotta be why they cleared all of this salary — maybe why they were so focused on that maclin number.
Someone may have already posted this and I apologize for asking, but does anyone have the details on this trade?? Freaking out and can’t find anything other than the EAGLES are giving up picks in this trade which makes no sense. Several people have indicated there’s a swap of picks. Can anyone post a link?
Not known. Schefter initially said pick and Foles for Bradford which is crazy. Albert Breer said Bradford and change for Foles. Next update was that pick was a 2nd. Then he said it involved a swap of picks(didn’t say what round) and Eagles getting a conditional-pick next year.
Thanks Greg. On Albert Breer’s Twitter now (and I hate twitter).
Eagles traded ONE asset, for TWO assets. He’s going to sell the farm for Mariota. Book it.
Breer came to Philadelphia to be there for something big today.
Acquiring Bradford with anything LESS THAN a swap of 1sts can’t be it
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
28s28 seconds ago
And the conditions on the 2016 draft-pick compensation in the Rams/Eagles
deal is somewhat complex. They’re still working that out.
Huh?! 2016?! Is Mariota staying one more year in college???
Genius!
Conditional 2nd rounder in 2016.
We would be swapping 1sts this year and getting a conditional pick next year dependent on if Foles reaches some sort of mark as the starter this year for the rams
OK . . . here’s the deal.
Eagles flip Bradford to the Jets.
With Foles to the Rams and Bradford to the Jets . . . there’s no one standing in thew way of Mariota dropping to No. 20.
EXCEPT THE TITANS!!!
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
1m1 minute ago
QB Jake Locker is retiring. Wow.
lets trade anyone for him
please don’t say we are swapping one’s unless someone is reporting it.
Its Albert Breer who is reporting it.
Nope. Said swap of picks, didn’t say 1sts.
True, but swapping 2nd’s for Foles. Whats next, trading an all pro RB for an injured linebacker?
Who in their right mind would do that?
From reading other sites we get Bradford, swap firsts, and get a conditional second next year. Conditions on the second round pick are yet to be finalized.
what other sites?
I bet Rams get to unload his contract, get Foles and my guess is they will get a 2nd from next season from Eagles. That would actually make some sense in terms of value to move from 20 to 10. Foles aint worth that.
I’m 33 years old. Today is the craziest football day of my life.
I’m soon to be 56. Craziest week in Eagles football during my life.
How much less than the speculated 3 first and 2 second, would it take to move from 10 to 1 compared to 20 to 1?
that is THE question
the first question is do we get their #10 pick
Amen. Really NEED the details on this swap.
but isnt it more fun to just sit here and assume
NO
Draft chart is to be taken with a pinch of salt, but a 2nd round pick moves from 20-10….
We don’t know we are at 10 yet… And if we are, do we still have a 2nd? Just wait
2 1st and 2nd could do it most likely. Much easier to stomarch drafting 10th over 20th
Haloti Ngata was traded for a 4th and a 5th… SMH
Saw that and had the same reaction. Surprised Chip didn’t jump all over that.
Too busy trading QBs.
It’s actually a 4th OR a 5th
even better. awesome
Malcom Jenkins tweets, Calm down people, let the mad Scientist work. Does he know something no one else knows?
yes
Do you know? Please tell!
Don’t discount the value Bradford has in a possible trade.
Yes, B-I-G contract — which expires after 2015.
Bradford, even with all his problems, is still better than Geno and Metz.
Of course, he can’t stay healthy.
But include Bradford with a 2nd and swap of 1sts . . . there’s value there.
So swap of 1st is correct?
Has to be.
Deal makes ZERO sense otherwise.
That’s what albert breer is reporting…but other sites said that the rams would get picks not the eagles….i don’t know what to believe anymore
J:
I can see a 2nd in 2016 going to the Rams.
But not in 2015.
If no swap of 1sts . . . .
Then Kelly’s going to introduce Bradford as the Eagles future at QB.
Especially if we can eat some of the salary. Not a typical NFL deal, but this isn’t a typical offseason.
Dead money is all gone. He’s free to restructure. We can cut him for no charge.
if no dead money why did we take him. Rams could cut him and just trade for Foles.
what if he’s worth a sixth to someone?
We percieve him as asset either as backup with reworked $ or in a trade on.
I don’t care if we get their # 10 pick. But I don’t know and everyone just keeps posting what they think.
True and we can afford him at the moment. If he could stay healthy, he’d be better than Sanchez.
wait, no dead money but is there guaranteed money? cap v. cash?
I think salary guarantees if he makes opening day roster.
there are conflicting posts above how we provided some benefit to the Rams for taking Bradford. I am very confused.
Unless there is some crazy condition in his contract (not totally out of the realm of possibilities he was last of the monster 1st overalls) we aren’t. Conflicting reports likely due to people not understanding how NFL cap works and repeating bad info.
OT–how fast does this thread get to 1000 replies if Tommy doesn’t start a new one???
less than an hour at the current rate
I think I added 200 posts by myself when I was initially freaking out thinking we traded Foles AND picks for Bradford.
2 Ten win seasons in a row and let’s blow it up! Not like we’re talking about unloading old guys. This is crazy
so you admit he got you two ten win seasons in a row. maybe he’s not an idiot?
Never ever said he was an idiot, I’m just wondering what the hell is happening. I think it’s crazy, not saying he’s not going to end up looking like a genius here.
i should have said crazy, not idiot. i’m with you in being like wtf, but i have to assume he isn’t doing all these things randomly. i mean the dude plans eveything
Maybe he’s a good coach and can win with someone else’s roster, but a crappy GM.
Sorry, but the talent differential between Foles-McCoy-Maclin-Jackson and Mariota-Chris Polk-Riley Cooper-Jordan Matthews is enormous. He’s taken an offense that was loaded with Pro Bowl talent (albeit still unproven in Foles’ case) and decimated it. Unless he replaces it with better talent, it is completely legitimate to criticize what he’s doing.
except that FA just started, and there’s a draft, and we had a lot of money tied up in that loaded offense. so it’s really not legit to assume we know where this is headed. you are criticizing something you’ve only seen a fraction of.
Granted. However, he appears to be taking enormous risks right now. What if another team decides it wants Mariota and offers a better package for him? Disaster. What happens if we get Mariota but he turns out to be just a nice college system QB who doesn’t have the ability to win at the NFL level? Disaster. What happens if the free agents he signs to replace the good players he dumped aren’t as good, or the draft picks he makes are busts? Disaster.
Chip has done nothing – NOTHING – to give me faith in his abilities as a talent evaluator. This is a guy who wanted to draft Taylor frickin’ Hart in the 3rd round last year. I don’t see why he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Apparently we get Bradford and 10th pick, along with a second round pick. As everyone has been saying, I am now officially thinking we are going after mariota.
Source please.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 17m17 minutes ago
Alright … The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
but we dont know what round, we’re assuming first, but could be second, but it’s probably a first.
Im gonna shut up now. im just saying what is floating.
Apologies. Just scared to death of the assumption that we swapped 1sts. It’s the logical conclusion, but I don’t want to count my chickens before it’s officially reported by someone.
Respect
That is just people seeing swap of picks and a previous thing about a 2nd and making assumptions.
Respect. It is an assumption.
Re: Why did Kelly Acquire Bradford?
Ray Diddy says Rams were going to release SB.
But Kelly’s taken control of his contract.
And, despite injuries, SB has some value.
Yes, SB’s contract (in last year) is huge. But the kid remains highly talented.
Better than Geno. Better than Metz
Not sure if it was a positive they were going to release him, but Diddy said they were thinking about it. it’s a lot of money to unload, like the money they should unload to get rid of Riley IMO
They had better be getting rid of him. Bradford has been in the NFL for four years and his career passer rating is lower than Foles’ was last season. He’s also injury prone. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call him a bust at this point.
He’s the Jim McMahon of injuries
Remember when Chip said he wasn’t a system coach and adapted his scheme to the roster he had rather than the other way around?
Yeah, he lied.
It’s more likely that he’s the next June Jones than that he’s the next Belichick.
this needs more love
John Middlekauff
@JohnMiddlekauff
13s13 seconds ago
Talked w/ 2 NFL QB coaches & asked them Foles or Bradford? Got two different answers. Only time will well
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for eags it’s neither, this is all about getting MM
If you (universal, not you in particular) like Bradford better than Foles, it’s because you don’t think much of Foles. Not that it matters from an Eagles perspective. There is no way he’s the starting QB here next year. Makes no sense.
Do they get Bradford to do a new deal?
he’s not staying here.
What do you think is going to happen?
He’s getting flipped to another team or dropped once we take MM. Maybe he stays on the bench, but no way he’s starting.
Diddy says has the speed Foles doesn’t have, but still, can Chip possibly think he can keep him from the injuries?
Am i reading this right
If it wasn’t for Shurmur possibly selling him to Kelly, I’d agree.
Still could do a new deal making it easier to move him.
i’m looking at BS’s contract on spotrac, i think he’s out of guarantees. signed 6yrs 79m, 50m g’d, and has 2yrs 26m left. assume he’s out or not much left
Bradford is not the end game here guys! Come on leveler heads will prevail!
AS I YELL FROM MY OFFICE
What is the trade???!!!!
Sort by newest, just posted
Is it a swap of firsts plus their second??? Can someone confirm????
No one knows. Some people are incorrectly assuming that swap of picks must involve 1st round picks
And this is what scares me. Don’t want to leap to any conclusions positive or negative til we hear.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 17m17 minutes ago
Alright … The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
But what round?
why do we think the jets want Bradford if we think he sucks?
people are nuts…
There is a gap between what fans think and coaches think.
Your view of QBs would be skewed too if you hadn’t seen a competent one since Kenny O’Brien…
Maybe this ends in us moving up to draft Mariota. Otherwise I don’t understand.
yeah 100%, if there was a question before there isn’t now.
yeah 100%, if there was a question before there isn’t now.
Is that Breer tweet all we know??? So the 2nd round pick is not automatic??
he just said on nfl network that theyre still working out the details of next years conditional pick. but we’re definitely swapping 1st rounders this year
They were going to release him away. I’m still doubtful but I view it as 20 to 10 for foles and a conditional next year for taking Sams ridiculous contract.
Initially said pick going to Eagles was 2nd but then updated said trade involved swap of picks and a conditional 2016 pick. That 2016 pick could most likely be a 2nd or maybe a 2nd is involved in the swap of picks next year.
Locker just retired…sounds like we have to go to #2 for Mm
Titans are happy with ZMettberger, so I heard
Me too. But never know
hah retired? damn, that’s sad
watch us release Bradford… straight up sam hinkie trade
Posted this below but applies here too lol
that’d be fantastic, but i think that’s why we have so much cap room. Maybe we can move Matty B to the jefts for a mid round pick?
Matt Barkely could be worth a 5th rounder, at best.
they will release Bradford… they cant trade him at that salary, no one will give us anything because everyone will know if they wait, we will release him
2 hours ago, the Rams fans probably said the same thing. That’s why it’s so strange.
+, apparently, Bradford has 0 dead for us.
Would make a ton of sense. Doubt he has much trade value, but us restructuring and eating cap then trading him could increase his value. Super Hinkie value deal
no one will trade for his contract, especially when everyone knows just to sit tight and we will release him
Just thought of something. Chip may think his sports science will keep Bradford healthy. Just a shot in the dark
First he’d have to get healthy, right?
That would be the very definition of hubris.
Well Chip right?
It’s time to start double shots
The only parameters that would make any sense are a swap of 1st round picks. The 2nd round pick would be a nice bonus.
My heart is beating SO fast
What is going on in our division? Anyone?
Our cheerleaders will all be wearing grass skirts and coconut bras…
Ok I like that
shootz!
May be the only reason to watch them this season
Heard Vince Willfork is talking to Steve Jones.
I personally do not think Bradford is whiter then foles.
they are very close
Bradford is part Native American I think.
what?
Yeah, 1/16th Cherokee per this old NYT article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/sports/ncaafootball/11bradford.html?_r=4&
i’m 1/32nd. high cheek bones, dead giveaway
What are the conditions on the pick???
Can you sign and trade in the NFL? Bradford has limited value at his cap value, but if we were willing to eat some cap he becomes interesting… not sure if it is possible.
Rand Getlin
@Rand_Getlin
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Source: WR Dwayne Harris will sign a five-year deal with the #Giants worth $3.5M per year. $7.1M fully guaranteed at signing.
He updated it to say it’s $7.1M fully guaranteed. I like Harris but that’s a lot of coin for a #4 WR/STs guy.
does Bradford ever make it to novacare?
Consensus: Should be a no, im guessing
He might get to the Novacare center….
Real question is if he’s in a wheel chair or not
He’d make it to Novacaine.
If for some reason Nick Foles thought Chip Kelly was racist, wait until he gets to St. Louis!
So what if Sam Bradford will be the fall back plan if the Eagles miss out on MM? I still have Gil Brandt’s words in my ears.
The Eagles could trade back from #10 to collect more picks and we’d have fun discussing an actual Eagles draft this year. Just something to think about…
I think that’s the MS deal.
MS?
Marcus Smith
What’s the point of acquiring Bradford???
swapping 1st rounds picks, so its easier to trade for Mariota
Sounds like Bradford was possibly going to be released – so what’s the point of acquiring him? He doesn’t represent any real value in terms of moving up to #10.
its a salary dump. they switched picks with us so they dont have to take the massive cap hit
he’s out of guaranteed money. guess chip wanted BS tossed in just in case eags can get MM?
Who says Nick Foles would have been enough?
Bradford was never going to be released — where’d you hear that?
Taking Bradford and more importantly his salary off of the Rams books when they were considering cutting him anyways, and would definitely cut him if they traded for Foles, is more us giving them something than them giving us something. Rams are thrilled to be able to move on from Bradford without the cap hit. We have the space to accomodate his $12mil hit (4mil will still be taken by Rams because it was from signing bonus). We now can either eat his $12mil cap hit or trade him to a team that might want him.
Haha this is an amazing ride with Chip! Would not have it any other way! We wanted in innovater someone who didnt give a shit about common ways or preconcieved NFL norms! Well here we are baby soak it up drink it in!
Hope you’re right. The guy who invented “New Coke” was an innovatory, too.
But he was a genius in the end!
Classic Coke was a big winner. I wonder, though, what did happen the the New Coke guy? Is he in the Eagles front office?
Hold on to your hat.
I honestly think the real reason why Chip got rid of Foles were his Uggs.
That’s what Stephen A Smith said.
Screaming A. Smith needs fired.
foles was too white. apparently chip is a bit of a racial goldilocks
DIddy: This is to me is beyond scary because they have an awful lot to do.
ODUCKER staying quiet on all this??
Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Shady McCoy, now Nick Foles. That is a lot of talent to lose. Here’s to hoping it works out. I am not comfortable with having Sam Bradford on this team.
he was complaining about you earlier
Bradford cant possibly have value does he? That was the Rams offloading his salary. So it would seem that we would have to get their 10th pick
You have to believe he does. From a PR perspective, bradfords reputation is bad, but you have to think coaches have a idea where he is injury wise and a different thought of his potential.
We get an injury prone, salary polluting QB and they get a young budding Qb who is cost controlled. I would have to think we get up to 10 otherwise I’ll just be sad
Cause to be very, very sad.
All signs are pointing to this being something further. I wouldn’t bet that we are expecting to put Sam on the field in any capacity.
Theoretically the Eagles could sign Bradford to an extension and give him a roster bonus instead of a signing bonus. Then they could trade him and eat the cap hit this year. Basically, you’re saying we’ll pay him the money and take the cap hit and as a result we want better return in a trade.
Hmmm…
Interesting speculation. Thanks again for all the updates.
They could also cut him with no cap casualty
Another team, yes. We’d basically be trading Bradford and cap space. NBA style trade.
highly doubt that… he will be waived at some point I assume
guess seding Bradford is just an afterthought. STL is going with foles, so put him in the trade or cut him, 6 one way, half a dozen another to STL. maybe chip wanted Sam as a backup in case eags dont get MM in draft.
he’s got to agree to the restructure
Is it the pretty boy factor? We have 2 of them now.
you don’t think fletcher cox and beau allen are pretty>?
Could be worse.
No one will trade for Bradfords contract. get real. everyone knows we dont want him and they just have to wait and we will release him..
…
this is a sam hinkie trade, dump Foles for picks… Bradford will be waived
maybe the trade was already in place.
As long as we get MM or Hundley. Otherwise Sam and Sanchez compete for strating qb.
This is what I don’t understand.
Rams could have cut Bradford at 4:00.01 p.m., today, and immediately added $12M in cap space.
Zero dead money.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/sam-bradford/
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Only reasons Eagles take Bradford?
He’s insurance in case deals fall through?
He’s Kelly’s guy for the future (despite 9.25″ hands)?
Or he’s being flipped to someone with lots of cap room . . .
Jets, Titans, Bucs all in Top 6.
Or — since we’re dealing in the fantastic today — the Eagles (i) have a new 3-year contract ready to go in which Bradford’s cap number is cut in half, making him now a much more attractive asset, (ii) Bradford’s traded to the Bucs as part of deal for No. 1, and (iii) the Eagles happily eat $6 million in cap dollars to make this happen.
Otherwise . . . again, why is Bradford here.
As usual, want to upvote you more than once.
You guys please. We traded up for either Trae Waynes or Bud Dupree. Hundley in the 2nd round after we trade up for him.
why waste it, take mariota call it a day
The Mike Ditka, Ricky Williams love affair comes to mind.
Because MM isn’t the end all or be all for this team. It might be for CHIP though.
This is a good point because a young qb without a supporting cast will have a hard time developing in the NFL.
We’re not done with FA yet so everything could change. We could get a premier WR or OL if we don’t get help from FA but this is Chip we’re talking about so who knows?
awesome, dream come true… always wanted a Hawiian QB to help us win those NFC east snow bowls in December
…
trying to figure out what got worst? eagles offense or niners defense?
Keenan lewis wants to leave nola. If we can make that happen i don’t care about the offense anymore.
if you still think Hundley will fall to round two I still have that bridge for sale…. and I dont even like the kid, fat chance he makes it past #30
chip is getting Mariota. i’d hate to be the team that prevents chip from getting his boy. he will burn that city to ashes
If they did this to trade up for Mariota, I think it’s a risky move. If they did it to trade up for Waynes or Dupree, and plan to draft Hundley in the second round, it’s a flat out awful move. Hundley is not that great a prospect.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
hahaha hell yeah!!!
WOOHOO!!!
guess i got a good laugh out of all this
IF we’re getting the #10 pick and don’t trade for Mariota, that’s prime position to land one of the top WRs.
Who’s going to throw to them?
Not Sanchez…
Sammy B might get through a few drives Week 1 before his knee explodes
Kevin White… YES PLEASE
If nothing else, we know Chip will like his name!
G.J. Kinne.
can someone explain how/if we helped the Rams by taking Bradford? did we save them cash and/or cap room?
They saves 12 mill in cap room and potentially get their QB.
thanks I didn’t think NFL worked NBA style. Is that b/c his contract for 2015 is guaranteed?
No, doing a trade versus a release doesn’t matter. The cap hit is the same unless the release is designated a post-June 1st cut. In that case, a chunk of the hit goes against the next year’s cap but you don’t get the actual cap savings until June 1st. If we were just interested in the picks, we wouldn’t have accepted Bradford in the trade. We either want him for ourselves or for a trade asset.
so it doesn’t save STL money?
That’s my understanding of the NFL CBA workings, but I’m no expert. I’m waiting to see one of them explain it.
It does save them money, but no kore than if they cut Sam outright. Chip too Bradford for a reason. Deal makes sense for Rams. Nobody knows what crazyness is oing on inChip’s mind
so are you or Anders correct? or we just took him to kick the tires b/c Rams were cutting him.
GR is right
saved them $12mil in cap space
Taking Bradford and more importantly his salary off of the Rams books when they were considering cutting him anyways, and would definitely cut him if they traded for Foles, is more us giving them something than them giving us something. Rams are thrilled to be able to move on from Bradford without the cap hit. We have the space to accomodate his $12mil hit (4mil will still be taken by Rams because it was from signing bonus). We now can either eat his $12mil cap hit or trade him to a team that might want him.
The Rams have become a much better team
If I am Rams fan, this is really encouraging even with moving down to 20
I’m betting they are pretty happy.
mostly because the nightmare of Sam Bradford is finally over
And it frees up some money.
Sort of. They need to capitalize in the draft at the CB and receiver position right?
We’re all set at those two positions right?
Im confused, just to be clear, im not a rams fan.
if you are referring to the eagles, I am not one to look at Riley cooper as a “sorry player” as most put it or to Jordan Matthews as average.
I look at production and the eye test. People laughed when I said Jordan Matthews would get over 700 yards last year. (at least I think I said 700).
I hitch hiked to Lincoln financial field to watch them practice last year from Maryland.
To me, I like our wideouts. Do we sign a free agent? it would help. Do we draft someone? certainly.
But Our priority, is QB and FS now. CB is right after, and OL and LB, then RB, and WR.
We will address all of these positions. Some with stronger moves. I think the stronger moves goes to the higher priority.
FS is the problem. I hear the draft is weak at Safety and the Free agent market is also weak. That’s our issue at the moment. Mccourty would have bought us time.
I think we try to convert someone in the offseason. I really think the eagles want to interchange their corners. where they can all play multiple positions. I wont be surprised if jaylen gets some play at safety.
That acrobatic interception he made tells me everything I need to know. he has potential. but of course, people don’t buy potential. they look at numbers. but what comes first? potential or numbers? you gotta see the potential first.
Your glass is half full. That’s a good thing.
Respect.
Malcolm Jenkins @MalcolmJenkins ·
Calm down people… Just let the mad scientist go to work. #woosah
the fact that we traded Foles should be a signal it’s happening.
100% yes
It’s = ?
MM of course
Didn’t want to assume. Might agree – or the top WR and Hundley in the 2nd…
if it’s only that I’ll be wicked depressed.
Im getting scared… Seems some people are hearing its not a swap of 1st’s…. I would hate if it isnt
There wouldn’t be a point to the trade otherwise.
No one is hearing anything. The exact details haven’t been reported yet. People are speculating.
Mm or bust. Leaves a lot of room for ‘or bust’
For those who are upset at Chip, I can’t help but be glad we’re not the Saints. Just traded one of the top two tight ends to SEATTLE. Ugh.
Many teams have given up “top players” this offseason. The thing I try to remember, is that I am not a coach or football expert. I watch tape and read, but the coaches and management know more than we do.
It was apparent when Andy Reid lost his mind here. We will know when this thing is failing. Now is not the time.
I know alot of people bust on that NJ reporter Elliot Shor Parks.. But hes been on point this off season!
Agreed, he had the Rams talk first
More on point than the most vocal basher of him
heyoooooooooooooooooo
We remember his clickbaiting poorly spelled, grammar free, posts on BGN. Then see nj . Com as a poor continuation of it. Speculation disguised as reporting.
Bradford? Screw you guys, I’m going home.
Given we don’t know much of anything, I would not jump ship so soon. no signs the eagles are incompetent. they must have a plan.
Funny thing(not haha funny)is i was just playing Madden and playing against the steelers with Branford and shady for on the other team when i got the news about fOles.
The end
well this explains everything
woah. surprise ending.
Now we know who to blame.
Mike Triplett
@MikeTriplett
56m
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On top of everything else, just heard from #Saints CB Keenan Lewis, says he wants team to guarantee final three years of deal or let him go.
I would sign him in a heartbeat
That would be hawt
We don’t have that much cap space left but yea do itttt
Makes so much sense, he sees that crappy cap situation. EAGLES w the CAP SPACE GO GET THAT!
Team is in salary cap hell. Sean Peyton is a hell of a coach. Horrible at managing his assets. That team needs to start seriously consider who’s going to replace Brees in a few years too.
New Orleans and San Francisco battling for the basement.
Anyone feel like they watching the real life version of Draft Day?? lol
Seriously!
I was just thinking that LOL
Ha. I didnt like that movie all because it was so fake…or so I thought
lol last week i was talking to someone about it and i think i said “that kind of shit literally never ever ever happens”
Forrest Gump-THe Eagles are like a box of chocolates
Chip = Forrest
MM = Jenny
Does that mean MM is going to romp around with half the NFL before playing out his final season for the Eagles?
Maybe. But it won’t stop chip from following him..
Mike and Ricky
White chocolate. Chip is racist!!
Chip is getting screwed. His cap person =/= Jennifer Garner.
hahaha eeew Roseman
Any news on Maxwell yet?
done deal
So Kelly can trade him now?
Is Jason Sehorn available? He would be a good fit for Kelly’s #culture.
Has it been reported yet?
He 6 years 60 mil 25 guaranteed
I’m not believing anything till Eagles announce it.
6yr/60m/25m guaranteed
Another thought to throw in – maybe they’re targeting Kaepernick?
I hope not, but don’t forget that nugget.
nah their GM came out and said hes not going anywhere so doubt that.
and you believed him???
100%
Say no to drugs.
Which of the new Colts will be the first to say, “Dream Team”?
hopefully gore
Wait! It was Jim Irsay! Of course!
“Let the games begin!!!! Building that MONSTER!!!!!!!!”
That guy’s such an effin’ choad.
Can’t wait for “The Monster” to go 7-9 and miss the playoffs.
I said this yesterday but we shouldn’t absorb Bradford’s contract if the Rams did include him in a deal for Foles. Well shit that effectively cut our 30m cap space to like 14m but it’ll be a 3.5m dead money hit if we cut him.
do we automatically eat that 14? of if we move SB or cut him do we get $$ back?
its $12mil and if hes cut we eat it. If he’s traded the recieving team takes it on
We can cut Bradford for 0 cap dead money, Rams eats the 3.5
what is “dead money” as opposed to counting against the cap?
Couldn’t the Rams just cut him?
Dead money counts against the cap even if he is cut (or traded).
yes, guess he’s just a throw in. stl didnt need him around with foles as obvious #1 now. maybe eags gave conseridations on the 2nd, to get rights to bradford. just in case it doesnt work with them drafting MM.
I’m hoping the deal for MM is done. If I have to wait a month to see how that plays out, I can’t make it.
If it’s not already done, the price just skyrocketed. Noone’s going to believe Chip’s going into the season with Bradford and Sanchez.
see if Bradford even comes to philly. if sam is cut tomorrow, chip has his boy in his back pocket.
O sweet. Fuck Bradford then!
I hope foles doesn’t blow his knee on that artificial turf over there.
Philadelphia Eagles
@Eagles
23s23 seconds ago
OFFICIAL: #Eagles acquire LB Kiko Alonso from Buffalo in exchange for RB LeSean McCoy.
oh we didn’t want to back out on that now?
Whaaaaaaat! We traded Shady? Who’s going to run the football!
Ricky Williams . They need to make the dirty thirty happy.
I’m glad this leaked earlier, would’ve been one crazy day otherwise.
What? They traded McCoy? WTF?
now we’re losing Shady? As long as keep Mac I’m ok…
or if we get McCourty…
or if we get Maxwell…
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
35s36 seconds ago
As @AlbertBreer said, #Eagles-#Rams are swapping picks (don’t know which round yet) and a 2016 conditional going to the Birds.
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thanks McLane for the update.
just saw swap 1st round picks 2015 on NFL network
Either Howie has been working the phone hard and knows that MM is dropping to 10 or..we’re taking someone else and Brandt was right, In before it’s Jake Fisher and everyone gets their minds blown.
If you get to 10, I think you can package Bradford and some other picks/players to get Mariota
exactly
who the he// wants Bradford
No one wants Bradford though. He’s getting flat out released
I think we can get to 2 with our first next year’s first and maybe a second. Won’t be nearly as crazy. we straight raped the rams on that trade.
Bradford has been so feeble, it’s hard to see who would want him. Of course there is the possibility that Chip found the one person who likes Bradford, and that is why he made the deal.
I doubt it, I think its just getting him farther up board for now. I suppose other factors could be setting up, who knows
I’m glad to see Saints get weaker and Colts get stronger. Move players to the AFC please. Even Bills and Dolphins got better.
Not glad to see the Seahawks get stronger though.
Rams stronger, too.
They still have the draft
Yeah but seahawks got stronger….
Tell that to the defensive tackles they’ll have to face.
we can’t have everything.
RNE:
What have Colts done? AJ & FG? Anything else?
isn’t that enough? they were in the AFC championship game. They signed Trent Cole too.
Great!
Thx
The solve any confusion:
When a team cuts a player any of their gaurenteed money (signing bonus) is prorated to the crrent cap year. Team typically only cut players when the current year base salary is greater than the prorated guarenteed money. This is why we wont cut Cooper right now.
In the event of a trade all of this holds true. The team still is on the hook for the signing bonus money. However in the event of a trade the team recieving the player takes on all non-guarenteed money (base, roster bonus, work out bonus etc.). So a player like DeMeco can be cut with no penalty because the Texans paid all his signing bonus upon trading.
So…we are taking on all of Bradford’s base salary. We can cut him or trade him at any time and it will cost us nothing. We in no way helped the Rams financially. They could hav cut Bradford and been in the exact same financial situation.
awesome
Well articulated.
thanks. I kept wishing for an NBA style never done before move.
K:
That’s exactly why the question is:
What is Kelly planning . . .
beyond taking control of the contract of a player who may have been of interest to TB or TN?
(Very Tom Hagen-esque, if so . . . “what’s in it for the Tattalaglia family? my compliments.”)
How does #10 pick help Chip get MM? The Bradford/Sanchez QB committee is not inspiring me.
10 is closer to 1 than 20. Anders works in math, Anders pls check my work.
I’ll get back to you on that.
Your math frightens and confuses me…
loved this skit
RIP, Phil.
Touche.
How do you not think it does?
I did not know that Bradford wasn’t costing us a heap.
Cool.
Its worth more than 20
History of draft trades since 1967:
8 deals with a team moving from 9-13 to 1-3.
Cost: ranges from, swap of 1sts, plus two firsts to just a 3rd.
Typical cost: 2nd and 3rd, plus swap.
VERY AFFORDABLE if you use 1 pick from 2016.
the ladder is coming!!!
Has to be.
If history teaches us anything, it’s that the move will cost a 2nd and Kendricks.
Kelly holds onto to Bradford to try to move him at some point for a future pick.
who knows now up top they are saying may not include # 10. How can that be?
and please not Kendricks. Give the pick(s) instead.
Thanks for the history.
Look up the Pro Football Reference draft pick trade value chart. It was devised by Jimmy Johnson to assign trade value to draft picks and has been adopted league wide. (I am sure there are tweaks here and there.)
#10 = 1300 points
#20 = 850 points
2nd rounder is at least 270 points, at most ~500 points.
Eagles net [720,950] points in trade value. That is a whole first round pick in value, #22-#27.
So your point is that a trade up from 10 is a lot less costly, right? But I don’t see who our trading partner is. If it isn’t Tampa or Tennessee, can there be a safe trade up?
It could be moot at this point if the 1st rounders were not swapped, but if they were, TEN has been rumored as a partner. Also, NYJ were rumored to be more interested in Bradford than Foles.
Can’t post it by here’s a screen cap of NFL Network reporting it’s a swap of 1sts:
https://twitter.com/danlevythinks/status/575401190726451200
Thanks Greg! its official
yeah bitch!
Nate Allen sighting!!!
you da man with the updates, thanks
philly sports radio must be awesome/…..cant wait to come home
It is but they exaggerate when describing some things. but it is entertaining. you can listen online though
i just wanna hear everyone cry and complain… im overseas, can i listen to local radio? stream sportcenter or CSN? ill be home thursday, so not the end of the world
Im jelly. (jealous). You can, but I don’t have the wherewithal to explain. I use to scan the internet and do stuff like that. I got local radio once in Ethiopia but it was hardly worth how long it took me to do it.
People are going in. Ennis is telling people to look at the big picture.
Theres probably an app for that
so who’s better a healthy Bradford or a healthy foles?
a healthy mariota
ok ok
neither exist
ha
Foles
bradford is extremely accurate and can make all the throws. problem is he’s made of glass. those smoothies have their work cut out for them
that’s what I thought, he is a good qb just gets hurt, but acl is a freak accident too
Adam caplan on espn reporting eagles and Demarco murray have mutual interest
crap
Wtf nfl network reported murray intested in joining eagles lol
we’d be stacked if the $$ is right.
guys is going to be over the hill real quick, but if he runs strong…
“if the $$ is right.” And you can be he’s going to go off on Dallas twice a year.
Is it Jason La Canfera?
Adarn Schefter
Oh damn..there’s actually credibility then
kidding I threw the R and N in there for the fake accounts
I was hoping it was just a typo 🙁
Caplan was on
Caplan said it on ESPN also
Only guy I thought was a better fit in Chip’s offense that was available this offseason. Of course, just cause he’s interested doesn’t mean the Eagles are . . .
Was reported as mutual interest
😀
Looking like we do get that 10, thank god
Just popped in to say:
TOLD Y’ALL NICK WAS GONNA BE TRADED!
FUCK YEAH!
Chip killing it.
PS.
Chip is a motherfucking GENIUS.
don’t go! it’s crazy in here. Your friend is losing his sh*t.
Ok Mr.Accurate calm down now
Good call man, you are THE MAN!!
Cant be right, somebody on this blog promised me Nick Foles and Cary Williams would still be on this team
and maclin
But did you receive word of it in an e-mail?
STICK AROUND!!!
I think we’re all missing the important point here: Bradford will make his money.
EDIT: As all of you know, I’m an idiot. Please go about your day…
Not if he is cut
highly unlikely.
Praying you’re right.
Oh, then I’m very much against this trade!
lol
The story of my life: I was distracted looking up pictures of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer. A tale as old as time…
I have never had a beer in my life, is today the day lol
go right for the hard stuff
Picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
Think on the bright side…colts had to go 1-15 for their QB.
Then of course RG3, RG3.
bring in Demarco and Moore now
Moore who?
Rahim and Denarous bring em both
This has to be the first shoe to drop for Mariota
the first knee to break
Sam doesn’t save Rams any money so I’m think TEN or TB wants him in our trade
just hope it all happens now. I can’t take a month of will we be stuck at 10.
NFL-Network says Shady McCoy is about to step up to the podium in Buffalo. I bet he goes the wrong way and cuts wide…
This is a lovely comment.
Mahalo, my friend! Good to see you posting…
He’ll get there, but he has to try cutting back behind the sponsors logo wall first
Already loses 5 before his first play…
Good tip for Shady. His first.
Is there any concrete information about the conditions on the 2016 pick???
said they’re still working out the details
Nfl network reported it. Just watched and others have posted links.
What is the condition on it??
Conditional pick in 2016 but the swap in 2015 was confirmed.
Dude I am asking WHAT IS THE CONDITION that affects the pick.
They are literally still agreeing this kind of thing dude, nobody knows yet.
Fair enough – all I was trying to figure out was if there was any more concrete information available about that.
Probably tied to playing time, making the playoffs, or being voted to the Probowl.
Haha I understand what possible conditions could be. I just don’t know if there is any info available yet about what the condition(s) is/are in this case.
Sorry, that hasn’t been reported.
This is fun, I’m having fun
Some people are still disagreeing that there is a #20 to #10 swap!!
Its Jeff McLane, he knows shit.
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that NFL Network’s graphics department heard swap of picks and assumed it was 1sts involved
Quite a lot of other people have reported it now.
What is the condition on the 2016 pick?
Not yet reported as final details of that being hashed out.
#10 maybe not part of it now according to Les????
I would have to do my incredible hulk impersonation if they did.
you trying to kill us?
Les Bowen saying it doesn’t include that now!
Around the league news:
Giants sign OT Marshall Newhouse
Giants sign LB Jonathan Casillas
Giants sign WR Dwayne Harris
Vikings sign QB Shaun Hill
Bears to sign WR Eddie Royal
Jets sign CB Buster Skrine
Broncos sign TE Owen Daniels
Colts sign LB Trent Cole(for real this time)
The Giants just spend quite a big deal of money for crappy players or pure ST guy.
Colts gave Trent Cole more money than we gave Brandon Graham
Cole is better than graham. All those guys getting cut next year.
I love Cole, but he’s done. Still adequate but hasn’t been a force for years. Not in love with Brandon either, but he’s got more upside at this point.
LeSean said to Buffalo press conference, It feels good to be appreciated.
aka, good to get more money
Yep
that’s how you measure your worth and appreciation
wait until he dancing around for a 12 yard loss on first and 10
“…the people here are so nice.” TRANSLATION: “People don’t complain when I pour alcohol on their head.”
Les Bowen throwin shade on the first round pick swap.
it’s les. what he does, confuses people. it’s a solid trade, young qb for 1/3 of 1st and a 2nd.
Got the roster blowing up on a Tuesday
Acho shout-out
Jim Thomas
@jthom1
2m2 minutes ago
I’m told by Rams that Bradford-Foles trade does NOT involve swap of first-round picks.
Someone needs to get fired at NFL Network.
Damn, so just a conditional 2nd next year?
Maybe we get their first, but don’t give them ours? That would not involve a swap!
Then what the hell are doing, if we don’t get 10 this is a waste
yes, and we all go back to drinking heavily. They cant do this to us
There’s simply no way this deal happened without swapping first picks.
awesome trade!!!
That can’t be right. Not with Bradford’s salary.
That’s because it’s not right.
Bradfordzzzz
If the Eagles have the 10th pick, and the amish Hawiian Mormon doesnt open his mouth, speak up and pull an Eli Manning, i hope some other team steals him from under our nose… if we have to move mountains for this kid, he better speak up and do his part!
Hes Samoan
We really dont know if we have 10 yet… So many conflicting reports.
wait so now you are on board again. Down below you said Chip is the biggest loser.
amish Hawaiian Mormon?
or amateur hawaiin moron?
Wow, impressive auto-correct translation skills.
Still no confirmation!!! People disagreeing with NFL Network, Jeff McLane!! What the hell is going on!!!
Sheil Kapadia
@SheilKapadia
18s18 seconds ago
@jeff_mclane Scott Hansen said it, credited Albert Breer. Obviously could be a screw-up.
If Hansen blew it, fire his ass.
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dont make me hate Hansen, I like my red zone
So Jeff McLane’s sources are Scott Hansen and Albert Breer? Journalism.
if we don’t get the 10 then what?
we really are going with Sammy b?
No point to this trade without #10.
So…….. if we didn’t swap firsts, that pretty much leaves us staring down the barrel of a bradford/Sanchez QB combo going forward huh.
The tone of Shady’s press conference is that of someone who was dumped and is now characterizing it as “mutual.”
At least its a more amicable split than Desean’s. That was of the keyed car/TV out of the 2nd story window variety.
how in the F do we not have better info available on this yet????
Re: If No Swap of 1’s w/ the Rams
What’s the point of getting Bradford?
To provide camp competition with Sanchez?
Does that put things in a painfully sober perspective?
This can be only explanation, but still does not make sense
What the hell is goin’ on in Philadelphia?!?!
understandable, obviously no commitment to him going into the last year of his deal.
We don’t like white people? SAS got it mixed up
Foles took note that he is probably throwing to Riley Cooper and Jordan Mathews and said… fuck it.
likes hes going to be a starter. Ill be a fan from afar, wish him luck.
Marcus Foles? Family members tend to overreact and overstate.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
1m1 minute ago
DeMarco Murray took note that Sam Bradford is headed to the #Eagles. They ran the same offense in college. #Eagles in the mix.
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No swap according to Rams
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Who is “Rams”?
Reporter from Rams was told by the Rams, as heard by Mikey Miss…Take it for what it is
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 2m2 minutes ago
To be clear, never said anything about first-rounders being exchanged in the Rams/Eagles deal. Just that there will be a swap of 2015 picks.
Please stop regurgitating that there is no 1st round swap. There absolutely is. There would be no point to the trade otherwise.
Unless the point was to infuriate us…
as he drives toward the toll booth
I’m identifying a common theme in your movie references.
Look one post below my friend.
then how do you explain this:
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 2m
2 minutes ago
To be clear, never said anything about first-rounders being exchanged in the Rams/Eagles deal. Just that there will be a swap of 2015 picks.
He is hedging. Seriously look at this trade objectively. We objectively got a worse QB, the most important position on the team and a player Chip has raved about. In return, we get his bloated contract and a conditional 2nd? No. That is not near enough compensation. Please take it to the bank – they swapped 1st round picks.
I agree but I am freaking out given that no one is saying anything. The Frank Gore thing is making me not be able to relax about any of these details.
You’re right, it’s a stupid trade w/o the first round swap or the 2nd rounder outright. Did Kelly get fleeced?
Still doesn’t say NO to 1st swap…
but don’t they understand how anxious I am and that I need clarity on this??
Oh gawd @!#$ it. Wish someone from the Eagles, Rams, or NFL would report official details of the trade and stop jerking us around.
It’s only going to hurt.
This is the Eagles.
People from Rams reporting no 1st round swap.
why is this so hard to report?
WTF is happening?
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu267/BoogaFrito/Its%20Happening%20Chip%20Kelly%20FINAL%20eyes%20WATERMARK.gif
i am in full on panic mode
PAGING JEFF LURIE!!!
Do YOU know what the hell’s going on?
Now would be the IDEAL time to get him to distractedly sign-off on a switch back to kelly green…
Package deal
Cybil?
Ian Rapoport: “Demarco Murray’s market is now really starting to percolate.”
Someone’s been nosing through the thesaurus…
My coffee does that! ANd my ass when I have diarrhea
or the coffee machine
Word of the day calendar.
imagine bradford and murray running the read option?
haha I don’t think so
Try to imagine two more injury prone players at their positions . . .
Ok, besides CJ Spiller
Jake Locker+Ryan Matthews?
Derrick Rose. Greg Oden. You didn’t specify it had to be football.
the guy from the Unbreakable movie. He was fragile.
Well they played together at OU in a spread offense
when they were youngsters
Why haven’t they announced the Maxwell signing??
Seriously how the hell does a news organization not have quality control procedures in place to make sure they don’t report false information? Absolutely pathetic.
You’d be surprised.
No idea…
The Ravens didn’t tender CB Anthony Levine but he played quite well with Baltimore. CB/S versatility and a good STs player.
haha this cracked me up coz with all thats going on you still can report on other things too.. You the man lol
right I am locked in. If we get MM, it’s all gravy. If we get Bradford as QB, I don’t care what else we do.
Truth. Going nuts just listening to NFL network and trying to keep up with the board.
Colt Anderson to colts
He was just extended by the Colts.
Anderson Philly to Colts
If we don’t get #10 out of this I will puke.
Aim away from your keyboard, my friend…
Find a toilet, quickly
Breer just said it’s NOT a first round swap.
lol no he didn’t bruh
Yeah, he did on NFL network. He specifically said it’s not a trade of firsts. Didn’t specify what the swap is which is even more frustrating. I have no idea what the !@#$ is going on.
No, he just said he didn’t know which round, not that it wasn’t a first.
If that conditional 2016 pick is most likely a 1st, I’d take it.
I would think it would have to be the Eagles would be taking a Net $11.5 cap hit (Bardford 13 – Foles 1.5) and a swap of 2nds with a conditional 2/3 next yr doesn’t get that done
So no swap of firsts?
Ugh, the Sanchez deal is starting to make sense, nonsense now
yup
Just read that Bears are getting McPhee and Lions are getting N’gata. Both teams are possibly switching D’s to 3-4. I like Minnesota’s chances of being the challenger to Green Bay in that division.
In these times of the Eagles doing things that make us want to throw a chair through the computer, try to tell yourselves it’s just football. A TV show basically.
Mark Sanchez is Kelly’s desired QB?
WTFIT?
Patience grasshopper, patience…….
oh we’ve been looking for you.
You are finally here! Grace us with your wisdom oh wise one! Tell us the end is not nigh!
The end is but a beginning…..
c’mon tell us something. What is the Bradford trade for, did we get picks?
Please tell me Kelly isn’t totally in love with Bradford and would do everything to get him. Please. I need to hear that. 😉
Repetitive accuracy man… Bradford tears ACLs like clockwork
That’s headline material!
One thing is certain, the Bradford era will be longer than the Gore era.
I’m going to rip that pebble out of your hand in a minute
OD:
I’ve done the draft math —
Unless the Eagles part with a VERY GOOD player, and re-do Bradford’s contract — I just don’t see this happening.
That’s the rub AC. Let’s see the next move and then judge the total picture. The painting is not done yet.
does it end with paint spilled all over the floor or a picture of MM?
We dont know the terms yet, correct? Am I missing something?
No we don’t. It’s just the bad momentum that’s killing basically ALL OF US at the moment. It would make absolutely no sense without the swap.
Just gotta wait. I’m trying not to freak out either. Taking on less talent, more injury and a HUGE contract while giving up a POTENTIAL franchise QB doesnt get you a return…? Kelly can’t be that stupid. I know there is the Shurmur connection, but geez
Don’t want an owner like Jerry Jones, but at least give me one that says WTF are you doing here?
Howie, chilling for a year counting his cash, ready to take back his rightful place next year.
Seriously though, Chip has lost his mind. Then again, he’s the genius.
that’s why they play the games
A.J. Hawk to Bengals
Rams re-sign TE Lance Kendricks
Vikings re-sign G/C Joe Berger
S Marcus Gilchrist visiting Jets
Blood pressure to 200 and counting…
rams bills superbowl.
book that!
One thing to keep in mind as the media and former players turn on our team: Nobody will ever hate the Eagles as much as we do.
Sanchez? Seriously?
Kelly has 60 days to fix this.
I think you’re forgetting a certain G. J. Kinne…
The Tulsa Tulip!
Note: The Tulsa Two-Lip is a dance I strongly recommend stretching beforehand…
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 25s25 seconds ago
Suh, Maclin deals not done yet, per league sources.
I think the teams/agents leak that so they can pretend like they hadn’t agreed to the deals before FA officially started.
or mac just heard about glass joe and said sign me back up
Wow
an hour forty minutes later and we know just as little
I somehow know less. Like, my pants are on backwards for some reason.
All you can do now is: jump, jump!
GREAT call!
Guy reporting on winners and losers so far says this:
Winner: Sam Bradford:
He’s going from Brian Schottenheimer to Chip Kelly. Bradford has a
unique chance to salvage his career for an offense that can’t help but
put up big numbers.
Losers
Mark Sanchez: Remember when he looked like a decent bet to start Week 1 for Philadelphia? That was a great day.
Another loser:
Marcus Mariota: Chip Kelly could still make a play for his former pupil, but it’s looking a lot less likely now. Landing in Philadelphia would have been the least bumpy transition to the NFL for Mariota.
yay sam
sure he can, blow his knee for a 3rd time, or break his shoulder for 2nd (at Least) time.
To echo RobNE, an hour and forty later and all we know is Foles is NOT going to be the Eagles QB for the next 1000 years.
i am dying
If Kelly had moved on this deal with the Rams sooner . . .
I bet he could gotten Scott Wells and Jake Long, plus Bradford, for Foles.
I guess the seahawks trade is how caroll is going to fix goal line play. Run it? Never throw it to jimmy.
Not even Brandon Browner can jam Jimmy Graham
Maxwell still not officially signed, coming from CSN
Been traded
For a 10th round pick?
What?
Kidding.
As Greg said further down, likely just to give perception that deals were not agreed to prior to FA opening
But other deals are done, they can stop pretending now and get the thing done
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
10 Sek.
Details of the Rams/Eagles trade still fluid — People here at NovaCare and in St. Louis still ironing it out.
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
28s28 seconds ago
Details of the Rams/Eagles trade still fluid — People here at NovaCare and in St. Louis still ironing it out.
Nobody knows anything.
I take no news over this wildly bad news from the Rams beat writer any day right now.
I am glad that doesn’t discourage them from reporting the details.
This is how I feel about this proposed trade:
http://i.imgur.com/0GvRGYJ.jpg
I need further moves as nearly $20 million of cap on Sanchez and bradford would be disgusting.
Sam might actually be a decent QB if he wasn’t made of glass. Not happy if we’re not getting the 10th pick out of this.
yeah
is acl really a glass man injury or more of a freak thing?
is maclin made of glass?
what about those guys that celebrate and tare the acl?
what about cruz?
2 back to back
Quantity of injuries and frequency is disturbing. He’s also a career 58% passer admittedly for a horrible team but I don’t know how Chip can consider this a step up.
The Bucs released T/G Anthony Collins. He’d be a good signing to compete at RG.
the whole world is at stake and you are talking about RG.
Love this guy. Altough, according to the multi tasking he obviously can do, maybe he’s a female football fan after all.
we need him on that wall while we just sit here and worry about Bradford from the comfort of our chairs.
Unfortunately, I am starting to wonder if I can handle the truth.
I am a Kelly fan but it is weird to have basically a whole new team coming this year.
it’ll be fun to watch
Percy Harvin released
Wait there is no swap of first round picks???
Les Bowen
@LesBowen
7m
7 minutes ago
Asked Nick’s dad, is this good 4 Nick. “Who knows? We’ll see. He loved the
Eagles, thought it was going be really good there. Things happen”
thanks Les how about telling us the details of the trade.
Wow, so they don’t get a call from Kelly either, at least we know it’s not just the stars who he’s dirt to.
You gotta give it to him CK is relentless, only cares about making eagles better.
where does the tweet say Kelly didn’t call?
From their reactions seemed like they just found out no?
Can’t let them know early or the trade leaks. Sometimes that derails deals.
I think you are reading a lot into it.
Less Les is best.
Let’s keep this blog that way.
Less Les and more Moore?
I’ll bang that drum all night.
Bradford/Sanchez would be as dynamic a battle at QB as was the epic Peete/Detmer battle.
Pete Liske vs. Mike Boryla
Rams traded for another QB today:
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
51s52 seconds ago
Texans traded QB Case Keenum back to the St. Louis Rams for a 7th-round pick in 2016, per league sources.
How is that possible? This was the pick they gave up for Foles?!
They are loading up on central Texas area quarterbacks…
Kinne was worth at least a 7th!
If there is no mariota I don’t get this coach, what is the difference between bradford and foles?
Curly hair vs. Straight hair?
one did vote for pedro the other did not
One was MVP of the Pro bowl.
1300 value of 10th overall
850 value of 20th overall
For a net value of +450 (in draft assets)
450 is the same value as 45th overall in the draft
So If the trade is in fact Bradford+Conditional 2016 1st? for Foles and a swap of 2nds, I think this adds up better in the Eagles favor than the originally reported swap.
That would give the Eagles
Pick 20 (850)
Conditional 2016 1st: Many regard this the same as a 2nd since it is a future pick. Personally I think it holds more value than a typical 2nd round pick so let’s just say 500 points (Pick 40). A swap of 2nds would also add 100 points.
So option A (Swap of 1sts) we’d have: 1300
Option B (Conditional/swap 2nds): 1450
If we dont get a Rams 1st in any way this trade was garbage
What if that conditional pick is most likely a 1st in 2016?
I was thinking the same.
Yeah, that’s what I interpreted it would be in this quick analysis.
We’d trade the conditional pick, along with our first to Tennessee. (among other picks). I placed a 500 point value on the 2016 conditional 1st which would equate to pick 40 this year
We need ammo this year not next, if we’re dead set on Mariota.
http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Raw-Sewage.jpg
Upvote for a Naked Gun quote. I will always upvote any Naked Gun quote from the first two movies.
riley’s dad and bradford’s dad grew up together…oh boy
hahahah
Baloophi . . .
Is Bradford the NFL’s version of Garp’s house now?
I think a better title might be “A Prayer for Ow, My Knee-y!”
Remember, there could be a 2 or 3 team trade in all of this…This could just be step 1
it better be
Yawn. Anyone think if I go watch an episode of Marco Polo maybe this shit will be sorted out by the time I get back?
watch a season just to be safe… get away while you can!
A little distraction watching a man open up trade options and journey into uncharted waters? Sounds like just the thing.
I liked that series, just one season so far right?
I think so. I would describe it as just entertaining enough to keep me coming back for the next episode.
Never had an actual star Dallas Cowboy come to the Eagles that I can think of, someone in their prime, we lost one to them.
I can’t either but I don’t remember nearly as far back as some others here. In fact I’m having trouble thinking of any Cowboys we’ve ever acquired period. I assume it would be bad for business.
Just their placekicker from the 90’s, Chris Bonei, or however you spell that. He came here after he had a few Super Bowl rings of course.
In my country we start revolutions for less than that, rise up eagles nation
Only in a small Moroccan cafe
Oui…
We need some more news to hold us over until we find out what the real trade details are. Come on, reporters, tell us we signed somebody else!
Blake Arnold
@Barnold1993
1m
1 minute ago
Schefter said tons of picks are in the Eagles – Rams trade on ESPN.
Don’t think those are all going to Eagles.
What are they?
there are no answers only more questions.
Like what? Like this?
do you like green eggs and ham? would you like them with Sam Bradford?
I will put him on a train, I will put him on a plane. I do not like this in the dark, I do not want him on our park.
No one has reported that yet. Two teams still working out exact details.
I know. I’m just feeling impatient.
Damn, I had just finished my 7-round mock draft.
LOL
Don’t have to be all, just the important ones. 😉
So, the Rams 1st for the next three years and we send them the 7th they used on Chevy Case?
How can you not be excited about giving up picks to acquire a QB who’s in the last year of his rookie contract at $12m — who hasn’t thrown a pass since Week 7 of the 2013 season — and whom the HC thinks may not beat out Mark Sanchez?!?!?!
It’s all good, though
But, no turnovers last year!
My class starts in 5 minutes. I can’t pay attention until I know these details.
Zumba?
LOL – I wish.
Does it seem like they are testing the fanbase reactions to close the deal or what? so many reports.
the eagles give no fucks about the fan base man. come on
its all about making money and winning (since winning brings money)
so making money is at the fore
…
Dude it is not the time for rational thinking and making sense, today is the day of insanity
Malcolm Jenkins tweets: I don’t like the cowboys but I do like @DeMarcoMurray …. Come on over to the dark side bro! We’ll treat you good!
at least someone is talking
Geoff Mosher retweeted
John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff 6m6 minutes ago
I’m told Maclin is currently on his way to KC, ink may not be dry but it’s a done deal
Maclin and gore have some awesome agents that saved their ass. Herremans and cole should thank us
. if the day chip was hired we were told he is going to blow up the offense, we will get rid of shady,Maclin, Desean, Foles it would have raised some eyebrows but atleast we would think we would be getting a bunch of valuable draft picks to help us rebuild…….
…
Recap:
Trades: shady, Foles for Kiko and Bradford
….
Defense:
lost: Cole, Cary,Bradley, Nate, Casey Mathews, Trent Cole
Added: Maxwell. brad jones, Kiko
….
Offense:
Lost: Foles, Shady, Maclin, Herremans, James Casey, Brad smith (desean)
Gained: Bradford
But we have Bradford now!
Hatters gonna hat. #millinery
Yes, if the season began tonight, I’d be quite upset.
Just a recap of the 3000 moves that happened so far. I wasn’t offering an opinion
I like how you don’t take draft picks (whatever they end up being) into account in the Foles/Bradford trade.
It is almost as bad as that one time the Cowboys got noone back in a trade for Hershel Walker (well, except draft picks, but they don’t count).
hahahahaah WOW whatb draft pickls you blowhard? do you know what they are? i dont, so stop drowining in the kool aid its making you act like a bitch KLOL.. what type of clown takes offense to a recap of what we know so far? i didnt even include an opinion you clown lol i didnt trade away your favorite players, take your thong out your ass
I was just joking around with you. Calm down.
And my choice of underwear is none of your business. I think it is comfortable and my wife likes the way it looks.
Why does this offseason remind me of a kid (Kelly) who was taken off his Ritalin (Roseman) cold turkey and we are seeing what happens as a result?
Awesome.
Report from Jan that some teams at top of draft prefer Bradford to Winston/Mariota:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/2/9/8006213/nfl-rumors-sam-bradford-marcus-mariota-jameis-winston-eagles-rams-draft
Found that very interesting. It is not possible that there was a bidding war for Bradford. Right? RIGHT??????
Not a Raiders’ fan. Just what officials in the front offices’ that prefer Bradford and his contract have been doing.
http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-04/366106740-22142800.JPG
Or this. I thought this was largely a joke until an ER doc friend says he has treated people who DRINK gasoline to get intoxicated-like effects on more than one occasion in Philly.
http://www.npr.org/assets/img/2012/10/05/istock_000011242384medium_wide-f35f72a8710754d451bc60617ac35734228b38af.jpg
GR:
That’s one operating premise.
But how much, in draft picks, is a guy who’s started only 49 of 80 games — and none in 1.6 seasons — on a 1-year $12M contract worth in a trade?
I’m all for packaging Bradford with a 2nd in 2016 and a 3rd in 2017 to Tampa Bay for a swap of 1sts.
But I cannot believe Tampa’s that crazy. Or TN.
Deal would still have to include a blue-chip Eagle player. And there’s only 3.
I heard LeCharles Bentley is about to sign with the Eagles.
going to catch train, don’t let anything happen for 10 minutes thanks.
There’s one thing this offseason has shown beyond doubt. GE ain’t got no crystal ball!
I personally like GE, but hopefully he learns that his views and/or sources are not set in stone. I like his enthusiasm though.
he’s gotta be less of a prick.
I meant the GE that doesn’t sprekenzideutsch 🙂 FWIW, I like GE too, but he gives as good as he gets, so him eating a bit of Philly crowsteak sandwich when he’s wrong on 80% of his predictions wouldn’t be a bad thing for this blog.
Too much going on now to be petty. Let it slide.
Oi, whAt did I say wrong?
Schefter said compensation picks will be based on Bradford’s playing time. Tgat doesnt sound like he gecomes trade bait. Please convince me I’m wrong
could be playing time with another team as well…
Sure it does. If another team views Bradford as a possible starter, trade them Bradford and the conditional picks along with our number one and some other picks to move up and get Mariota.
I mixed that up a little bit, but the main point remains, Bradford could play for someone else.
Be funny if we say yeah we’ll give you this pick if Bradford starts this many games “for us” and then we trade him to another team.
What does this mean, exactly?
Does Kelly value Bradford — who’s started 49 out of 80 possible games — so much that he’s willing to send picks to the Rams?
For a guy on a 1-year $12m deal?
Need some help understanding this deal.
Seriously . . . .
It could be that picks coming our way are conditional. For example, the Rams give us a lesser pick if Bradford plays a lot and give us a better pick if he is injured and does not play.
Schefter just said on Sportscenter two seconds ago that the conditions on the pick have to do with Bradford’s playing time. Does that mean Eagles are planning on keeping Bradford??? Or are the Bucs/Titans interested in Bradford and they are dictating the terms of the conditional pick to the Eagles????
Like the Stevie Johnson/Bryce Brown trade.
Exactly.
I understand that. The reason I am confused is because this would imply the Eagles are planning on keeping Bradford.
Or do I have this mixed up?
I’d presume the conditional pick would get better the less he played, because if he’s adding a lot of value less value would need to transfer in the form of the pick. Is that wrong?
Yes they are dead serious about keeping him. Why?? No clue
Yes. But the swap is still important. Because TB and TEN won’t want to slip that far, probably.
Yes. He is our qb. Time to accept it… Sorry
Trade is official. Hopefully details leak soon.
LeSean McCoy live on NFL Network: “I’ve never played on a team that has a great defense.”
LeSean: “[in our scheme] the backside A gap was always open [to defenders].”
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
17s18 seconds ago
Former Jaguars LB JT Thomas reached agreement with Giants: 3 years, $12 million, including $4.5M fully guaranteed.
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If Bradford is our QB for 2015… I can picture Howie at Ikea eating Swedish meatballs and pondering how to decorate his new GM office in 2017.
2016 with a top 10 pick
Aww…
LeSean McCoy on getting traded: “I was shocked just like the rest of the world was shocked.”
He is so right about the rest of the world…
You’d be surprised what shocks folks wearing “Seattle Back to Back Super Bowls Champs” t-shirts.
Unfortunately it’s usually some form of village judge carrying out an ancient punishment…
There are no infos on the official eagles website.
There will be as soon as this thing is all sorted out. Most def. 😉
Frank Gore officially to Colts. Go to hell, Frank.
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
11s11 seconds ago
Colts officially announced deal for former 49ers/Eagles RB Frank Gore. It includes $8.5 million guaranteed.
Or $1M more than Eagles were offering.
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8.5m guar.? Wow. 1m more than reported. Now I’m glad he didn’t sign with us, at least for 8,5m guar.
Is Indianapolis that bad?
McCoy struck me as a kind of a bitch while he was here given his off-field behavior/comments and how he acted at times on the field.
Bills’ PC today did little to change my feelings about him or his maturity.
I don’t think Kelly should have told him before the trade was made. Once it leaked out there, he should have given him a call.
Yes. Problem is with league rules, maybe? Idk. Sounds like Chip should have called.
Who the fuck knows if he called or not. Who cares, why does everyone make this to be a big thing. Maybe Shady was a huge prick behind the scenes and didn’t deserve a call?
You still call the player and act professionally even if the player in question will still trash you in public.
Oh you do do you? Do you think Chip somehow acted unlike any other NFL coach in this situation? Do you have Chips phone tapped? Do you know what every NFL coach does every time a player is cut?
We aren’t getting many answers tonight, but let me see if I can get us all a few here: yes, no, no, no.
considering what mccoy has meant to the organization / fans over the years, yeah. Lurie should have called. Can have people acting all salty.
Remember when our coach said most important quality of a QB was durability…. Peperidge farm remembers.
Lol
Evan Silva
@evansilva
2m
2 minutes ago
Think smart money is on Sam Bradford never playing a snap for the #Eagles.
THANKS EVAN SILVA FOR THAT SUBSTANTIVE REPORT.
Yeah, I’m starved for anything right now.
Have to think that is the case and that the ‘Quest For Mariota: Chip’s Desire’ continues full bore.
Bradford just possibly helps to facilitate it.
Chip could get his gold, and his gold mine . You know what we might get.
No sorry. Bradford has no value when team know we will just cut him. See desean situation
But DeSean was on the Eagles.
Nevermind .. He is our first a chose QB .. Shurmer must be running the team lol
Of course not. we will just waive him hibkie style
OT…i dont watch much espn and just discovered Britt McHenry. She is worth watching for sure.
Worthless without pics….
Google her
too lazy share pics.
I posted one. Click view
Many here are suffering from premature evaluation!
Between Bradford and Alonso, how many complete ligaments have we acquired?
I’m back is the trade clear yet?
https://twitter.com/KevinCManahan/status/575411127984717824
https://twitter.com/KevinCManahan/status/575417316344733696
I may have underestimated the value of a QB made of glass.
That’s a lot of chips…
As we’ve heard from Stephen A though, Chip doesn’t like those chocolate chips.
Bet you bite a chip.
Bradford is prob getting released No one trading for that contract when they know we will just release him
Nevermind.. Bradford is seriously our franchise Qb…wow. Laugh or cry?
OD called this one, whered he go?
Andrew Brandt
@adbrandt
54s
54 seconds ago
Hearing Eagles-Rams draft compensation swap will involve both this Draft and 2016 Draft.
Andrew Brandt @adbrandt 1m1 minute ago
Hearing Eagles-Rams draft compensation swap will involve both this Draft and 2016 Draft.
Well, someone is full of whatever Baloophi calls it.
Flim flam?
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
27s27 seconds ago
Rams-Eagles trade now official. Rams trade QB Sam Bradford and undisclosed
draft-pick compensation to Philadelphia for Nick Foles.
Disclose it then!
Enormously helpful
at least now the confusion is official?
It helps, AC. Because Bradford + picks at least says that Chip is not fallen crazy in love with Bradford. Crazy in love and just flat out crazy.
Lifetime supply of fried ravioli for the Eagles’ FO?
Goes against sports science mantra. Berries for smoothies.
Berries and smoothies in St Louis? Hell no – smoking section, crappy Budweiser product, and mediocre chain restaurant food!
There are some exceptions including really good Croatian food, surprising Vietnamese joints, etc but the food scene in St Louis generally sucks.
McClane said they were still working on it. But that was all of 20 minutes ago.
there could have been 5 other trades in that time!
If it is a lifetime’s supply of Imo’s Pizza, the Eagles really lost this trade.
So the Eagles do agree that there has to come from from the Rams. At least we know that. Now we hope it will be enough.
https://twitter.com/SheilKapadia/status/575397773698183168
wheres my downvote
LOL!
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
Sanchez YPA with Chip last year 7.8…
not a peep for Rahim Moore or many others for that matter.
Philly Sports Talk
@_Philly_Talk
3m
3 minutes ago
We did NOT get the 10th pick according to @RapSheet
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is @rapsheet part of the eagles? why the “WE”?
Philly Sports Talk quoting Rapaport. But Rap Sheet didn’t post this on Twitter yet.
Does this indicate no swap? I think it does, just picks elsewhere is my guess. Get ready to cry
Hoping for 2016 1st.
ya more ammo from 20 I guess. Or its Hundley time
But aren’t the Rams supposed to be good next year? I can’t imagine that pick being that good.
I think the idea is ammunition to move up for Mariota.
Agreed, but if the value of the pick is perceived to be back of the first round, wouldn’t that make it’s value less exciting for Tennessee, etc? Oh well, at this point it’s all speculation anyway
So, would a 2016 1st help us while we keep our 20th? Or would the #10 helps more.
Guess it depends what we have to give up for the 2016 1st.
i mean you can only do so much.
sounds like we are rolling with Bradford or what do you all think?
Ah fk! lol
The horror. The horror.
I just don’t think Bradford sucks like everyone else.
he’s no foles but really?
acl is a freak accident
it’s mostly his knees that suck. Also his arm.
I thought Bradford had a gun
Bradford is basically Sanchez.
Pop-gun variety.
He had his own unique way of sucking!
I think, talent-wise, he’s very promising.
But he’s missed nearly half the games he could have started over a 5-year period.
His numbers are pedestrian.
He takes sacks — like Foles did in 2013, when he was great.
And he’s on a 1-year deal at $12 million.
Just perplexing.
Kelly is going to go all Col. Kurtz on us next year?
Does this mean he wipes out all resistance in the NFC East but in the process destroys the Eagles too?
nice work
Decent book and I did enjoy the uncut movie version.
Thread count reach 2500 is Tommy doesn’t post tonight?
T-Law’s picking up the pieces.
How far has Shurmur gotten inside Kelly’s head?
ODed on Funyons and his keyboard is sticky and non-responsive.
FakeWIPCaller
@FakeWIPCaller
1 Min.
The Eagles should trade undisclosed draft picks for Mariota
This guy is great
Top shelf
So who’s left on the offense that Kelly can jettison?
Part of turning the page in 2015?
Peters, Mathis n Celek
Kelly’s just daring Mathis to bring up the contract again.
Honestly the only valuable players we have at this point are Kelce, Peters, L. Johnson, J. Matthews, Fletcher Cox, and Mychal Kendricks. Pretty sure that’s it.
Maybe TB wants Kelce?
dont say that.
Dont underestimate the value of Kiko Alonso.
Kiko
I don’t see why we just don’t go all the way now and get rid of Meco, Celek, JP and Mathis… Would it be that much of a difference from now? We wasted enough time doing this crap in year 3, atleast do it right, so we can put it behind us and start building
rip off the band aid quickly.
bingo
Enjoy St Louis Foles. It isn’t quite purgatory in the US but it is kind of close.
Well until he is in LA
Currently 83 degrees and sunny on my patio…
Foles in LA would be a taller version of Pat Haden.
You’re in CA? I moved to San Clemente last year and haven’t found a good crew to watch games with. Where do you head for gameday?
after today . . . Baloophi’s NOT GOING to watch.
Right, Baloophi?
I have to. Pain is the only way I feel alive.
My living room. BUT, stay tuned for the draft… I usually try to gather IgglesBlitzians for mayhem at a bar…
It all depends on where you live in LA and as long as you don’t have to commute a long distance every day.
I lived in SF/Silicon Valley for several years but I agree. LA is an okay place to visit but no I wouldn’t want to live there.
its not Oakland
John Middlekauff
@JohnMiddlekauff
48s48 seconds ago
#Raiders & Jags both want DeMarco Murray & have the most $ but Philly still being very aggressive I’m told
Very surprised..money wont be that far off from McCoy’s. Why?!
Running style.
1800yds 12 tds
Honestly you can go get a RB in the draft. An impact ILB though? Good luck.
Yea Alonso will be awesome. But money had to be a huge play in trading him. Maybe since they couldnt get McCourty they are on plan D
Again its running style. Chip wants to run a bunch of plays. That means no going backwards. Muray woud keep us “on schedule”. Also think losing maclin was not expected. Now we have more offensive holes than we thought we would. Murray is better than amy WR options
I’d guess because Kelly is sick of him.
I don’t think Shady’s running style fit our blocking scheme. Seemed like Chip was pretty fed up at times at Shady seeking the big play. Honestly I thought Shady would be more impactful on screens for us but we hardly used those this past year (maybe because of OL continuity issues).
I personally prefer a bruiser to a scatback for our attacking. A one cut and go guy with some power and some speed is perfect. Doesn’t need to be a burner, doesn’t have to be Jerome Bettis, just some of each. As long as he can catch screen passes his hands are good enough.
Because Murray runs hard and goes north?? He’s really used though so I’m confused too,
Unless Demarco Murray has the kind of genes that Emmitt Smith had, his production will decline next year. Probably, quite a bit. Injury likely, too.
But he’ll bounce back in 2016. Just nothing close to this season’s production.
That’s what the history of RBs with 350+ carries in a season shows.
Best option out there given the situation.
Well, Kelly’s throwing around money like there’s no tomorrow.
Give Murray some.
I like him in this offense. He carried a big, big load though last season.
yeah my issue too (everyone’s issue).
I feel about this offseason like a senior citizen who is confused and baffled while trying to use a phone menu.
Can’t I just talk to a live person and understand what is going on already!
Phone Menu: “Press 2 to select Frank Gore.”
User: Presses 2.
Phone Menu: “You have selected Demarco Murray. Press 1 if this is correct.”
User: “What the hell, that will work.” Presses 1.
Phone Menu: “You have selected trade Nick Foles for Sam Bradford and draft picks. Please pay attention to the following menu to select your draft choice compensation…”
That’s great stuff. Really excellent.
Thanks AC!
Soooooo…. The eff is our compensation then, if we’re not getting #10. And conditional picks, as others have indicated, say to me that we’re planning on playing him, unless we’re counting on trading Bradford and having someone else play him.
no way
Are the Eagles and Rams really still talking about what picks are going to be involved I thought they had to agree beforehand
No
Is this all part of getting MM?
Yes
do you have the pick information? what’s step 2?
I want to believe Ducker, I just don’t.
I am at this point 5% sure OregonDucker is actually Chip Kelly.
Yessss. Chip Kelly is negotiating with the Rams, with Murray and from time to time he says f*ck it, I’m going to Igglesblitz.
source?
Yall some gullible dudes smh
Is this part of what you have been elluding to?
OD has been right.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
7s8 seconds ago
What’s crazy about the Sam Bradford for Foles trade? It was basically dead twice over the last two weeks. Until right at the deadline.
Guy has to have some serious sources. OD always menioned this deadline thing. We all don’t know why, but there has to be something to it.
I hate to repeat myself but I am now 23% sure OD is Chip Kelly.
We have Belichick here (despite tepid denials).
If MM gets done, then Kelly’s on this board.
Let’s see St Louis wants Foles, TB wants Bradford, we want MM. seems easy enough.
Please please tell me this is part of the plan to get MM. How does giving a 2nd round pick for Bradford help this?
we better get #10
I think #10 is dead.
Didn’t we let him go last year?
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
7s8 seconds ago
What’s crazy about the Sam Bradford for Foles trade? It was basically dead
twice over the last two weeks. Until right at the deadline.
You’re correct there isn’t an actual deadline but it seems like the start of FA was an artificial self-imposed deadline.
What deadline?
deadline to legal tampering?
Yeah, it is weird to keep referring to it as a deadline. It’s not like if the trade didn’t go through by 4:00 pm today they could no longer do it.
yea poor choice of the word deadline
He keeps on using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
maybe he love the walking dead so much that he wants to use “dead” as much as possible….#reachingandbored
Yeah, weird phrasing. More of the start of FA, but whatever. Someone just tell us the damn picks already.
fwiw . . .
OregonDucker’s made sounds about links in the trade-chain giving way.
Maybe he’ll be prophetic about MM when all’s written and done.
If I would be a betting man (OK, I am, to be honest), I’d bet he’s right.
Does that mean if we didn’t do this deal our shot at getting Mariota was gone too?
Also if Ducker is wrong, are people going to give him shit like they give GEagle? (unfair question I know.)
Yes, per O.D.
No to other. Low key stuff from O.D.
Yep. People give GE shit not because he was wrong but because of the wall of text rants and general tone of his posts.
ya, conditionals doesnt sound great. The wheels are falling off, spin cycle is broken
It’s not a real problem until the seat comes off…
GUYS.
Patience.
We’re in good hands here.
Why does that sound like something you would hear from a shady financial advisor or your friend who had several drinks but is saying he is definitely okay to drive?
Are we really though? This thing is starting to more and more look like a fly by the seat of your pants operation rather than a carefully orchestrated attack.
Having a trade ready right at the beginning of FA indicates a ple-planned process, not winging it.
I meant FA as a whole, rather than this particular trade, which as someone else posted earlier (rappaport reporting) was dead in the water twice before getting resurrected. Did we resurrect the deal because things were not going our way so far?
No we trade Foles to rams instead of another team.
Doesn’t make it a good idea
Hopefully not this guy’s…
Aloha!
NO one knows the conditions just yet… Lets wait them out
#FUCKWAITING
What’s the record for posts following a Tommy article?
With or without GEAGLE?
Touche.
I’m pretty sure he is in a wheelchair petting a dead bird while he repeats: “pretty birdy”
Picture of Foles up on his screen while blabbering & tears and drinking heavily.
Off my nuts. Thanks court jester
Yesterday’s 1385 (or thereabouts)
We gonna blow by that unless he puts a new one up, but I imagine he’s working his sources furiously as we speak.
Hope.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000477873/article/sam-bradford-deal-doesnt-take-marcus-mariota-off-eagles-radar
I thought this was going to say we got the tenth pick…
I’m not leaving this page what does it say
Just that it doesn’t take MM off of the Eagles’ radar.
No kidding.
Basically says why the hell would Chip want Bradford this may not be over, etc
Box that Sam Bradford will come in to Philly.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/ff1ecc515cb4637a565ebd0e9070ca42/tumblr_mxhw0y5Ugg1ract8ho1_500.gif
ha, well done
ha, well done
I’m going out for dinner in 15 minutes. That’s my new deadline for getting this sorted out. Someone tell Chip.
Cancel.
I want to still be alive to see this shit orchestra through to its conclusion.
Tell her your online eagles friends need you.
That would be the saddest excuse for a dinner date cancellation in the history of man.
So should I even bother trying to play Madden with Bradford as QB for the Eagles?
There’s always Sanchez. Or Barkley.
wow we must have the worst qb trio in the league.
at least our wr are the worst too
RBs might be the worst
TE are high middle of the pack, though.
Kinne is going to be my starter.
only if it lets you work through cap implications of dropping him.
When Nick Foles got hurt and Mark Sanchez took over, Breaking madden had to sim like 100 seasons for him to win a superbowl.
What the F? We’re the one giving up picks.
Adam Caplan
@caplannfl
13s14 seconds ago
Eagles acquire Sam Bradford and 5th round draft pick in 2015 from Rams for QB Nick Foles, 4th round pick in 2015 and 2nd round pick in 2016.
WTF
can’t be right
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
Someone shoot me. Please. This has to be a nightmare.
Yikes.
no way in hell we must also be getting their first or something.
Yea it HAS to be in there right?!
My thoughts too
http://www.american-buddha.com/ghostbust.260h.gif
Stay Puft is definitely more durable than Bradford too.
that doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
So the rams get a lot better and we get worse and give up picks for a horrible contract? IT’S FUNNY AR THIS POINT
This is the official start of me being off Chip Kelly. That is just beyond pathetic. Its so fucking stupid.
Makes no sense
What this is an awful deal.
F’ing terrible
omg
we are done
bradford and a 5th for foles 4th and next years 2
Awful, Awful trade.
Those are the details the Eagles officially released. It’s real. And horrible.
Chip’s gotta go. The clearance of all this cap room was for sam bradford?
Trade Chip for Urban Meyer
Worst trade in franchise history?
Nooooo.
Long list.
This deal actually looks good in comparison to the 5 worst.
It may not be the worst deal in franchise history, but I just walked past a pile of dog poop on the street that looked good in comparison to this deal.
Wow this is a hideous deal.
Hey guys, remember that time when we had the 10th pick and was one step closer to Mariota? Good times.
HAHAH wow
Guuuyys
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Rams get the #Eagles 2nd rounder in 2016. It goes back if Bradford isn’t starter
Still bullshit, but at least it sounds like 1 percent better or something,
Key info to find out is if Bradford is starter for another team and not Eagles does that mean we get our 2nd round pick back?
That’s why I said 1 percent better. You have to think that it counts for the other teams as well.
1% better? Are u high? I don’t think you are understanding. We pay a 4th this year and maybe a 2nd next year for a 5th this year….what can be better?
Dude. The Eagles are dead serious keeping Bradford. Let that sink in
haha i thought for sure that conditional pick would be coming our way. He’s obviously not going to see that second round pick.
We gave up one of our 4ths for their 5th this year. Hahahahahaha Hahahahahaha
Did Ruben Amaro take over NovaCare?
WTF IS GOING ON HERE??????. Can we go back to the tampering period
No way i believe this..theres gotta be more to this story, my health, sanity and furniture depends on it
Holy shit. We got completely robbed. Wow
Wher is OD? Make us all feel better
Roseman is a giddy as a school boy. Kelly is quickly turning in as incompetent a GM as Rhodes was once he got all of the power.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE RAMS 10th? #firechip
OD talk to us please
Hhahahahahag
Holy shit. We got robbed blind. Hahahahahahah Lurie is allowing this? Holy pay shurmer. OMG how can you not laugh at this?
yeah this is terrible.
Holy shot. Am I the only one laughing?
Be honest, you’re still pissed that Nick got traded to begin with. That’s it’s for a bag of moldy donuts just feeds your schadenfreude.
definitely not laughing, this is terrible. The #10 we get this year just hasn’t been disclosed yet….right?
Condition is if Bradford not starting due to injury we get our 2nd next year back
Huge Chip Kelly fan but my faith is being tested. Shocked. Just shocked.
This is so bad it is actually good news. Bradford within NFL circles has more value than i would ever have thought. Eagles must be now moving him for Mariotta. No way they give this much up for just a below average injured vet.
There is no way 2 ACL injured QB with a high salary has value
i mean obviously.
People refuse to accepts it lol
Done with Chip. He got ripped off by Jeff fisher. F this
Sheil Kapadia
@SheilKapadia
29s29 seconds ago
Schefter says if Bradford does not start next year due to injury, Eagles get
2nd-rounder back. Eagles did not mention that in release.
Sounds like it’s injury protection. Need to find out how many games he’d have to miss to get pick back.
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so eagles think that Sam Bradford is a good QB, that’s what i’m not understanding.
This was the big plan all along, i mean clearly the MS contract is set up as injury protection.
Like being happy you might get your pinkie back after they cut off your ring and middle finger.
He’s already on the website, this has been in the works for a while.
Re: Trade Compensation
Okay . . . so the Rams, per Ray Diddy, were going to release Bradford.
Obviously not.
Otherwise, why would Chip Kelly ship off Foles, a 4th, and next year’s 2nd.
Clearly, Kelly knew more than Ray Diddy.
Right? I mean, right?
Kelly was planning on getting really sucky players with those picks. Eagles win, again!
Diddy said they were thinking about it, the Eagles just did them a favor of making the decision
This offseason so far since Kelly got power
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/97/979c055517373cb05c8852d4cd200d129c79bf6ac0e8f1aa5f6b8be0367a57bf.jpg
Trying . . . so hard . . . not to up vote this . . .
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
1m
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Condition to Foles/Bradford deal … If Bradford doesn’t start 8 games, Eagles
get a 4th round pick back. If he’s reinjured, they get a 3..
Sounds like there’s another tweet coming from him
If he spontaneously combusts at the airport, the Eagles get Jaworski.
Well that makes it a bargain then…..NOT. If Bradford don’t play 8 games we are more
Fucked then we are today hahahahaha
it just hit me. What if it is for Bradford to start as an Eagle???? Or worse, there will be a QB competition with him against Sanchez. We can compare completion percentages between the two after every open preseason practice.
Bradford is obviously talented. He was the #1 pick and was great as rookie and has flashed since then. But all the injuries….
He is bad… as in even if he was healthy i would not want him.
that’s what i’m saying.
Stop talking shit lol “that’s my quarterback man(in my TO tears)”. We just acquired our franchise QB!!! Lol nothing to do but accept it and hope this coach hurries up and runs back to college asap
Are we already trying to convince ourselves that this is a good thing? Didn’t take long ;).
Even if Sam Bradford becomes the league MVP for the next 17 years, its still a horrible trade, simply because we got absolutely reamed. The values does not match up, AT ALL.
That’s what happens when you have a novice(in personnel) coach doing the negotiating instead of the GM.
Dude, Bradford is our QB. If we were making moves to get MM we would be getting more picks then we are giving away…. Nothing to do but accept it
Worst. Trade. Ever.
Awful just awful
There has to be another part to this.
Still have to think CK is not done – this is just seep 1…I hope…
but we’re losing draft picks on balance.
Meaning more FA and another “blockbuster” to come…
exactly…this doesn’t seem to help us at all unless the titans have a huge boner for Sam Bradford
They might with Locker retiring…never know anyway…
Bwahahahahahahhahah dudes are straight brainwashed
OMG…we’re turning into the Bills
Over/under on how soon Bradford is booed in Phillly?
Too late
Ive been booing for the last 5 minutes already
Tied Donovan McNabb.
Pretty sure some fans are at the linc booing already
Bradfordzzz
An incredibly sad thought just passed my mind. What if that report from earlier about the Rams increasing their offer for Foles was true. Does this mean that we were holding out for the 5th round pick…jesus…Kelly just got raped in this trade
And here we thought this guy was smart enough to stockpile picks.
If this was the grand plan all along, I’m fully off the Chip Kelly wagon…dude’s a straight up moron
yes, exactly. “i need a 5th” to complete my grand plan, which never included Mariotta.
I don’t know what is real anymore … I feel like I’m living out the ether trip from Fear and Loathing
What a disaster. I mean seriously, a complete disaster.
Why would you give up a qb earning under a $1,000,000.00, for one that is coming off an acl injury and earning over $12,000,000.00. Heck, we could have kept Maclin and Foles, and not be out any more money. Wow!
The salary aspect, along with losing draft picks, along with getting a QB who is probably worse, and has a huge injury history, makes all of this maybe the worst trade I can remember.
Go to dinner now.
no, dont worry, must be just a chip to move up.
Dude Foles has more value than bradford, stop talking about moving up. clearly he just wanted bradford
*Foles plus picks*
Re: Nimble Chip
Tampa and Lovie Smith desperately wanted Bradford.
Kelly out-maneuvered them.
Now Kelly has TB exactly where he wants them.
Right? I mean, right?
Something like this. Probably. Maybe.
Smarter than the average bear?
Guys, if you hire a genius you have to let him do what he wants. That is the only way it can work. I’ve been saying this to myself over and over.
None of us can stop him so it doesn’t matter. We still got absolutely fleeced
Maybe he’s really a moron and just play a genius on TV
AND…he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Just for fun… because Chip obviously doesn’t intend Bradford to play a single snap at QB… I mean, I sure hope he doesn’t… check out Bradford’s scouting report… not that he’ll ever play here. Some highlights are: Peyton Manning-like accuracy, Great decision-maker since freshman year, but the best one: Doesn’t have Stafford/Sanchez level of upside. http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010sbradford.php
Just awful…
I might answer the question Howie or Chip differently these days.
Jason La Canfora
@JasonLaCanfora
16s16 seconds ago
Eagles are assuming Bradford’s contract as is. At least for now. Has 1yr left
and made no approaches on a new contract as part of this trade
I’d think if you want to keep him, you do an extension before making the trade.
but we gave up picks, i don’t get it.
Sounds like we don’t give up 2016 pick if he’s moved to other teams and we’d only be giving up the 4th/5th round pick swap
This is the single most moronic trade ever. Makes no sense on any level. Money, Skills, Picks NOTHING
There was a report a while back that some of the teams at the top of the draft prefer Bradford over Winston/Mariota. Let’s hope that’s the case and Bradford is just a trade chip.
Based on the complex stipulations of the trade, looks like they plan on keeping him
What’s complex about it?
Not necesarily. Stipulations says he has to start for us or we get the picks back. If we trade him he doesn’t start for us and we get our 2nd pick back.
they have to already have the second part of this trade worked out.
I hope.
Been saying that…hope so too…
but that assumes those teams will pay the eagles more than what they could have paid the rams, doesnt wash
yeah i don’t know — but you can’t make a trade that’s this bad on its face right?
Were all hoping not but slowly realizing that we miss Howie of all people
but couldnt those teams have just made a deal to get him? Im not buying this, I think he must like Bradford as a starter.
Maybe (MAYBE, ALL HOPE WE HAVE) is that price is so absurd because we were in a bidding war. But we had Foles, who the Rams liked.
ok, so trying to wrap my head around this. Foles is wanted but were also taking on his contract for them (which I thought would net us more, also if they covet Foles that much). That in turn lets some other team get him from us with picks. I guess but seems like a reach, or hope like you said. Only way that kind of works if the Rams really still liked Bradford and were making it too expensive to get him. Would be a big circle j if it falls that way
Lol wow delusions.. Step back off that ledge my friend. Hate to see you cracking up. In chip we trust Lol
.
I swear some of you sound like cult members lol
Howie Roseman is laughing.
And Lurie?
Just read a headline that said McCoy advise Gore on the Eagles situation. Now there’s a WTF
My bad, Gore’s decision was already made up, he was giving him info on the Eagles’ offense, didn’t bother with the rest.
that’s bound to happen.
well to that I say f*ck Shady. His name is Shady for a reason.
The guy wouldn’t tip someone making less than 1% of what he makes.
Who advised Kelly on Bradford?
Shurmur?
Someone needs to Jimmy Hoffa Shurmer if he’s behind this trade.
Chip is purposely giving away Roseman’s draft picks out of spite. #EGO
And on that note: Byron Maxwell jumped off the plane…
Former Hawk now Eagle, he’ll soar just fine.
He’s not an Eagle yet!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Take, these broken wings…”
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
39s39 seconds ago
Clarity (kinda) on Bradford/Foles trade: If Bradford doesn’t play 50 percent of
snaps next year, Eagles get a conditional draft pick back
Worst ‘Lemon Law’ ever.
More like Lemony Snicket’s “A Series of Unfortunate Events”. Not a bad way to sum up the offseason so far, actually.
What if he’s cut?
We get the pick or we gave the pick and then get the pick “back”?
Who cares
Awesome. That makes it a “genius” trade… Howie just put a GM for dummies book in chips desk lol
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
2m2 minutes ago
Packers free-agent CB Tramon Williams will visit the New Orleans Saints tonight, per source.
Not even Spadaro can muster up any enthusiasm
Lol what is he saying?
Now I have to sell my Eagles Mariota jersey…what’s the URL to that crazy buy/sell place? E what..??
Colts sign DT Kendall Langford
Falcons sign OT Mike Person
Falcons re-sign RB Antone Smith
Patriots sign WR Brandon Gibson
meanwhile colts signing everyone
maybe Chip could just not get up to top 2. He had already moved on from Foles and the Rams was the best offer he could get. So he just took the best he could get. Like how could get nothing for Desean so just had to cut him. Rather than go another year with Foles only to lose him in free agency, trade him now.
Bradford was close to getting cut.
i think his contract gets re-done.
draft a qb
Then he is just being foolish. Flat out and this is even more disasterous than Jackson/Cooper last year.
You’ve decided to move on from your QB, so you pay a king’s ransom (in cap space and draft picks) to replace him with a guy who is older, more expensive, and less accomplished? Who was probably gonna get cut anyway?
That makes no fricking sense. C’mon man.
Something else has to happen c’mon now.
Let’s hope he fails the physical. PLEASEEE
Jason La Canfora
@JasonLaCanfora
46s47 seconds ago
If Bradford ends up not playing for Eagles- which may be the case if Chip
lands Mariota – then the picks go away; still like move for STL
I really hope all we lose on this QB swap is the 4th/5th round pick swap and they got Bradford because TB/TEN like him more than Foles
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This is our only hope. Detriot coveted Foles. Titans want Bradford.
So trade Bradford and lots more for the #2 and everyone is happy.
That makes this all more realistic
I want to believe this, but why would one of those teams not just deal for Bradford? Unless Rams really really really like Foles
exactly. Do they think they can maybe get Bradford and all of Eagles picks for move up? Does that even work rationally?
Yes . . . if Bradford is valued as the equivalent of a 2nd Rd pick.
Then the Birds swap 1sts, include 2015 2nd and 2016 2nd.
where is all this sudden value for Bradford though. Unless rams made it hard for them to deal him. Does the contract come into play maybe. We rework his deal prior to trade?
I don’t know if Bradford has that value to TB and TN.
But *if* he did, a deal could work.
Contract wasn’t a problem for TB or TN. Lots of cap room
But lack of a QB to swap for Bradford may have been.
___________
On the other hand, maybe Bradford’s here to stay.
With Sanchez.
Has to be.
Tampa has Glennon.
Tenn has Mettz.
I wanna go home so bad!! Never wanted to hear philly sports radio so bad… What an entertaining g day
Yeah because only losing that would make this close to acceptable LOL
The sky’s starting to clear . . . .
Mariota is actually No. 2 all time in college QB efficiency behind . . .
(Trumpets)
Sam Bradford.
hahahaha that’s terrible.
hahaha
I’m in total denial, this is unfathomable
Hahahaha
We knew from the beginning that the Eagles will have to give up a king’s ransom to get Mariota.
I hoped it would ‘only’ involve all of this year’s draft plus Nick Foles, now it seems it will involve next year’s draft too…
Just think Viking, we almost lost the Eagles to Arizona in 85 …maybe we could be the ones laughing now
Word is that they were talking trade with Tennessee last week. Titans are said to be VERY high on Bradford. Maybe something was already worked out?
Titans were just working out Marcus weren’t they?…Hmmm
they always do that anyway, but its really hard to spin this angle. Teams really want Sam Bradford, cmon
Yeah, but Casey, you’re a UFA. Didn’t they take your keys and iPad? I can’t trust you.
no one is dumb enough in TENN to think Bradford is worth the #2 pick. the guy is more fragile than peanut brittle
We hosed Wisenhunt once for Kolb why cant we do it again?…I am already drunk from kicking them back after hearing this trade so I am trying to express optimism.
LOL hold your breathe it’s happening. I promise
So was the consensus around the league that Nick Foles wasn’t that good. Or do you think a top team thought he wasn’t good?
Nightmare scenario:
We tried to trade up with Tampa for a ton of picks and Tampa’s GM tells Chip that they will only make the trade if we can get Bradford and include him. Chip makes a terrible deal for Bradford, and then Tampa’s GM (while trying to hold in his laughter) says he changed his mind and doesn’t want Bradford any more.
Hmm not sure if I want to become a Colts or a Rams fan at this point. I am only half joking. I need to buy some more bourbon.
I am in shock/denial at the moment. brain is spinning, feeling nauseous. Don’t understand this trade at all… I was not on the trade everything for mariota band wagon but that makes more sense than this.
Yup. I have no faith in this leadership, and no Chip is not a genius he is just coming off as an arrogant fuck with a big time ego
Bwahahahahaha
lots of former eagles on the colts you have options.
Is today April 1st?
Bad news – I may end up having to buy a really expensive bottle of scotch for my friend with the bet we had regarding Kelly and him being a trainwreck.
Good news – Eagles still have to trade for Mariota.
Better put aside that $200 now though.
I think it’s time to start downing the scotch yourself
Hahahahahaha
hahaha this is total bs this trade.. WTF are you think Chip! I said i would be open minded n throw logic out the window when looking at the offseason.. But man this off season this trade reeks of shit! lol
What’s wrong? Get off your ledges guys, Chip Kelly’s has a plan. Come up off the ledge. U are cracking up. I’m chip we trust… mariota the God! Bwahahahahahahhahah chip knows what he is doing, just relax Geagle! Bwahahahahahahhahah the best are the delusional ones who think this = marriotta
The irony in this is so very rich. You literally pivoted to this position 48 hours ago when they last Maclin. Whatever it takes to feel superior on a freaking message board I guess…
Sorry no clue who you are… Get some attention by writing your own quality posts and if I notice you I’ll start reading your responses. Good luck
Homey, the only one who craves attention here is you. The volume of posts I make has no bearing on the content within. I’m simply calling out a clear bit of hypocrisy on your end since you were cheerleading until yesterday.
Color me unsurprised that the sense irony and humility needed to process such an about face is lost on you.
Can we bet on Eagles getting Mariota again?! Lol.
Welp, the EMB crashed 😀
General managers who run sports talk radio stations in Philly on this trade:
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/73/730239dd1c5f367d9376be6289474bb34376c0f23bc6f11f522a30d410f2a13a.jpg
I wish I had Tommy’s optimism, I really do. But I don’t. Awful.
FakeWIPCaller
@FakeWIPCaller
2 Min.
I’ve never rooted harder in my life for someone to fail his physical #Bradford
He’s on a roll. But that’s the only funny thing at the moment.
The thing is that he usually posts intentionally funny irrational things as a typical sports radio caller would. I think he’s completely serious with that.
You’re right. We are so f*cked up, FakeWIPCaller doesn’t even uses irony anymore.
Lurie sends trusted family messenger ‘Sal’ to ‘accidentally’ run into Bradford’s knees with one of the passenger shuttles in the Philly airport when Bradford gets off the plane.
https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/920973861288589
Says we give up 2016 2nd no matter what but get 2016 3rd back if Bradford doesn’t play at all and 4th if he plays for less than 50% of snaps.
Horrible. I hope JLC is right and Schefter is wrong but I doubt it.
Wow. Tampa or Tennesee better really, really want Bradford.
Until they start laughing in Chip’s face and say: “you thought we were serious?!?!?” Welcome to the NFL Chip!”
Yeah they must have had our nuts on this trade, it doesn’t make any sense.
Glimmer of good news –
Eagles officially announce Maxwell signing. At least he didn’t bail on the sinking ship.
Wow. Dude must be money hungry to the fullest
Seriously wouldnt blame him if he were to back out like Gore
Gore and Maclin owe their agents a monster bonus
I feel like I’m in the middle of the ether trip from Fear and Loathing
Don’t get into the ether just yet. Trust me, save it.
Ah, devil ether. It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early Irish novel. Total loss of all basic motor skills. Blurred vision, no balance, numb tongue. The mind recoils in horror, unable to communicate with the spinal column. Which is interesting because you can actually watch yourself behaving in this terrible way, but you can’t control it. You approach the turnstiles and know that when you get there, you have to give the man two dollars or he won’t let you inside. But when you get there, everything goes wrong. Some angry rotarian shoves you and you think “What’s happening here? What’s going on?” And you hear yourself mumbling…
Maybe we are looking at this all wrong… Any chance Bradford is our new safety?
He is going to be our QB’s coach since we lose one every year.
he’s a box safety… no good.
Glad to see you haven’t lost your humor, mate. I am also in awwww
I swear I’m not mad. Happy for foles. He deserved better
Is there ANY WAY that Grigson can save us from this, any way at all? Come on Colts…
And I just watched the 10 Worst FA signings yesterday on the NFL channel. BREAKING NEWS: Replacing number 1 is…
I give up. I can’t defend this.
just post your it’s happening meme.
I really have struggled to hold my emotions back on this one because the moment I do, D3FB will show up and I’ll get sonned and he’ll point out I’m being an emotional idiot that doesn’t actually know anything about football. Then I’ll go cry somewhere.
It is a terribly old and played out joke but ‘The Bradford-Foles trade is good FOR ME TO POOP ON.’
Can remember the last time that a move by the Eagles was so universally buried.
So 2nd round pick next year is given no matter if Bradford plays or not.. Fucking bs trade! lol
You have to think the Rams were like: oh yes, a pick back is possible. But not YOUR 2nd, no way we do that [thinking to themselves: at the end of the year, that’s close to a 1st…]
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
50s50 seconds ago
These are definitely Chip Kelly’s Eagles. Every player who threw a pass or logged a carry for Andy Reid’s last team is now gone.
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I cannot believe how utterly stupid this trade was.
Everything positive went to Rams. They got a better QB. Way smaller cap hit. Better draft picks.
WTF? This shit is seriously pissing me off. There’s no possible explanation for this. Bradford is a SCRUB, nobody wants him.
Two options 1) Eagles went for Bradford as fallback option and got fleeced 2) This is part of bigger picture trade. Here is my concern with 2); so far birds have made deals that blew up before they got realized, suggesting a lack of deal-making savvy.
hard to do when your motives are so blatent. We must have needed bradford for something. Jets or Titans i think, hopefully.
Why would we even put in all the conditions for him starting? Clearly they like him.
If the conditions say he has to start for the eagles or we get our pick back, and we trade him to someone else before the season he doesn’t start any games for us and we get the pick back next year…I dunno I’m grasping at straws here man
It would have to apply to the Eagles no? I thought once a trade happens you need to sign a new contract terms
You don’t need to sign a new contract Bradford could play out his one year at 12mil for us. When you trade for the player you get his contract too. You can resign them and usually teams do, but you don’t have to.
What I’m talking about, in my initial reply to you, is the trade conditions with the rams. It’s stated that we traded a conditional 2nd round pick next year. If Bradford starts more than 50% of the snaps we send a 2nd to the Rams next year. If less than 50% it becomes a 3rd. If he gets injured it becomes a 4th we send them. If he doesn’t start at all we send them nothing next year. (or something along those lines…I’m not sure what the exact deal was at this time…everything is a blur). So what I’m saying is if the wording of that condition is that, “if he doesn’t start a single game for the EAGLES…”, then it might support the notion that we plan on trading him. If we trade him, he never starts a game for the Eagles and we don’t owe the rams a pick next year at all. Just a thought…
Wheres the lube? This team n fan base is getting screwed up the ass!
“NO Vaseline!!!”-ice cube
where is oregonduck. Does he know anything?
He is really Chip Kelly so he must be preparing for a press conference explaining why this is a good move and we are all idiots.
someone asked him deep down in the comments about an hour ago if this was all part of us getting MM and he replied: “YES”
Has a been right before? on anything?
no
He hasn’t been wrong so far. And he was talking about that strange deadline that Rapoport was talking about.
I’m pretty sure that somebody told me that Chip was smarter than all us fans….
On the field, absolutely. As personnel guy? Who knows.
Was it OD? I am now 70 percent sure he is actually Chip Kelly so of course he would say that.
I have been able to see the logic behind every Chip Kelly move to this point. Haven’t always agreed, but I could at least follow along. This baffles me. Horrifies me. Seriously, “question his sanity” level of shock.
I was going to reply and then you said it even better than I could
I saw the logic in some of the moves, Shady included, but I can’t help but feel like he is trolling this team hard. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see him bounce for college before the season started, at this point. O course that isn’t a reasonable thought…which makes it so reasonable, right?
“As it stands right now, the QB trade doesn’t make sense. Great for #Rams. Head-scratcher for #Eagles.” – Ray Didinger, CSN Philly
Pretty much sums it up.
Gotta give him props for being so cool headed. I’d be throwing out expletives like a sailor on a sinking boat.
“As it stands now”
The thought of Bradford being our starter is mortifying.
glass half full, it’ll only be for 4-6 games till he gets hurt. then, glass half empty, replaced by Sanchez.
Someone smash that glass on me and put me out of my misery by that point
kelly wants to get fired is my irrational explanation
Your explanation is not more irrational than this trade.
Team is heading down south quickly without the players left over from Andy’s era.
that 4-12 team?
Its all an elaborate plan for Chip to return to college and then we can hire Urban Meyer
Hundley/Bradford/Sanchez……nope
Mariotta/Bradford/Sanchez…..nope
Hundley or Mariotta/Sanchez/Barkley….trade Bradford?
Trade Bradford to move up for Hundley somewhere? He aint getting you high enough for……anything
Didn’t you hear?
Bradford is worth a franchise QB, second round pick, and swapping your fourth for a fifth. Makes perfect sense.
cool where is the franchise qb?
Bradford has no value.
… thought every Rams fan 4 hours ago. Maybe we are stupid, but maybe we aren’t the only ones.
yup, trade does nothing to get eags MM. Hundley as target is making sense. now eags have 2nd, 3rd, 3 4th to get some players.
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it’s going to be a rough one.
Still sticking to the ‘Everything to get Mariota’ line come hell or high water.
Ahab is going to get his white whale even if it sinks the damn boat.
Of course Chip Kelly would go after the White whale. He would trade the whale to Buffalo if it was a black whale.
http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/032011/seewhat-deniro.jpg
The Eagles and free agent CB Byron Maxwell have agreed to terms on a six-year contract.
Hard to give a damn right now.
Going to practice some mindfulness and track my progress
http://www.funeralresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/stages-of-grief-300×282.gif
I don’t know that I’ll ever get to acceptance if Bradford is our new QB
This might be a little sad but in the past 3 plus hours there have been almost 1200 new posts and I have read every single one. Even though they have all said basically the same thing.
Now you know why Gore jumped ship. McCoy leaked what he knew was likely to happen (along with shit talking on the Eagles)
Man i heard Shady being traded was a key reason for Maclin choosing the Chiefs!
I think there were $11M reasons he chose Chiefs.
Heard they didn’t even give us the chance to match
That’s what I heard too
Vodka on a Tuesday night it is then!
https://twitter.com/samuel_bradford/status/273566654733111297
Theory: Eagles intentionally tanking season. Positioning themselves for QB in 2016 draft.
No way
If Cardale Jones just came out this year….
nonsense you don’t trade picks away
Can MM go back for another season? or hide out in the CFL for a season? I’m half kidding.
If there’s any good news it’s that GEAGLE is guaranteeing that Sam’s going to be our QB. Since everyone knows his guarantees always work out, we should be happy with our QB next season.
Give that guy a break. Seriously.
But out. Let the bitch speak for himself
Cue the profanity laced tirade…
Blow me
LOL
Good news I have a new groupie!!!
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Congrats first time I ever noticed you lol
Apologies, Geagle, I just have to find humor somewhere right now. Not a lot to laugh at otherwise.
That was your last time.u I didn’t think I would actually take the time to read two of your posts did you? Lol who are you? Be happy with a response. Don’t puah your luck
I like reading your comments because they are generally good analysis. However you have been wrong like alot of us this off season. You say you aren’t mad or upset but every comment you write has obvious anger in it. So just stop it please. It isn’t fooling anyone.
Welcome to the groupies! Evidently when you criticize bad behavior it means you secretly love the perpetrator.
He actually amuses me. Legitimately amuses me. Only crosses to irritating when he becomes abusive.
I miss Howie Roseman
I still like chip. Foles is with fans that deserve him and I’m getting the defense I wanted. Really don’t care for MM anyway. Rather have a QBS with NO ACL then. Running QB lol.
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Chips still ok in my book but his fans are out of control, lol swear they sound like Cult members to me
How are you getting the defense you wanted? We still have Massive holes at S and CB
Uhhj isn’t it better than any defense pre 2012? Yes? So shut up
Why so angry today GE?
I may be the least angry eagle fan in the world. Swear my face hurts from smiling. Barking up the wrong tree
FA is like what, 3 hours old?!
In which the safeties we wanted after McCourty are still on the market. I don’t see a massive hole at CB. Carroll was a starter in MIA and I think can be a solid 2. OLB is solved. We are stacked at ILB with possibly the best ILB tandem in league if healthy. You have one hole and that’s at the safety position. Will get addressed seeing how hard they went at McCourty. I am very pleased with the defense, not so much offense.
but seriously are the st Louis fans that great?
Is this a good chance to get this off my chest–the Rams have sucked for so long, had so many high draft picks, and got so many from the Redskins, even got a big name coach. It’s probably about time they start winning some games.
They don’t suck. They are like a QB and WR away
Better then our trash who crapped on a quality developing QB for 3 years. Hope we trade Marcus smith too and watch him grow into a beast. Trashy fanbase needs to learn the hard way how to properly judge and support young talent. Kid lost 4 games and front running fools ripped him everytime.. I wanted him in buffalo or the jets, but I’m good with the Rams
wait and see if they still like foles after a few losses. you never know, people always want immediate gratification
Kids going into year 4 and we just crapped on him. Just watch the year he has
2+2=5 now?
I’m going to go get something to eat and I hope when I come back there’s better news.
At a minimum, most of you guys are massively overrating Nick Foles.
But instead of trying to come to terms with your own poor evaluation of him, you’re taking it out on Chip.
Let the process play out.
Perhaps, but that doesn’t make trading for a QB that has played 7 games the past 2 seasons a good idea. I don’t know if I’d give up just a 2016 2nd for him. Only way this makes sense is if TB/TEN think much more highly of Bradford than I(or sane people) do.
Foles has been referred to as a “franchise qb” on here several times. Since when?
Everytime I ever talked about him
Nick Foles value is greater than Bradford’s like by a longshot and even Rams fans will tell you that.
Foles had value. Bradford should have had value just to unload him. Instead the trade went the other way.
this
true.
chip is the coach that knows these guys for 2 years. if the coach wants a different qb why do the fans think he is wrong all the sudden?
hey you can’t ever please everybody
If they would have traded Foles for a 2nd round pick – even a 3rd round pick – it would have been a better deal. This trade is bullshit.
Nick Foles has value. Bradford has none. Quite literally no value. The Eagles traded Nick Foles and #20 to move up to #10.
Forget about what you or I think about Foles. We both agree he has value. If you think Bradford has value you are cray
The Eagles did not swap picks. We are getting a 2nd rounder this year, and giving one next year. Plus like a 4th and 6th involved.
We are not getting a second this year.
According to Bleacher report we are. Checked again. Bleacher Report has corrected their error. Now this makes no sense to me.
Nope
Nope what? Are you disagreeing that Bleacher Report initially made a mistake or are you saying no to something else?
funny thing is, if a month ago you proposed a trade, Foles for Rams 2nd and 5th, i’d of probably said, sure but hopefully little more. but tossing Bradford into mix just pisses me off.
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hopefully Kelly has another trade. dont see many NBA 3way deals but lt’s hope
You’re flat out wrong.
I’m not saying Foles is going to be a franchise quarterback. He may or may not.
But he is younger, cheaper, and has had a statistically better career than Sam Bradford, who in addition to being mediocre for five NFL seasons, is extremely injury prone. These are not opinions. They are facts.
This is an awful, awful trade, in isolation or as part of a process. There is no excusing it.
I just now want Chip to put me out of my misery and hold a press conference and say he is not going after Mariotta and he has loved Bradford from afar since he was in college. If he has any decency he will tell us there are no more moves if he loves Bradford.
I just know myself, and i root for the Eagles, so come the first game of the season i will be all Bradforded up, be able to tell you his college stats, seen his highlights and convinced myself he is best for Chips’ syste…. oh, hell, i have no clue….
So as GM can Chip Kelly trade himself to the Rams? that’s the only way any of this makes sense.
I honestly don’t understand why people are upset! Obviously the trade doesn’t make sense in isolation. Clearly more moves are coming. If Bradford is a piece to move up for Mariota doesn’t that make it better?
were all praying thats the case, its just kind of hard to believe thats possible value wise.
Yes but I see nothing clearly about that
yea it does…I just don’t see that as likely.
Even if he is, we still got raped in this trade. Both QB’s in last year of deal. One is minimum wage the other is making tons. Both are injury prone but have shown promise. Which should be more valuable as a trade chip? Ask that in isolation of names and it’s obvious to everyone but Kelly.
Read somewhere on twitter that teams in top 5 may prefer to take bradford and still have a pick in 1st round than pick a QB. I’m just sayin this isn’t over yet
Bradford has no value.
Read somewhere on twitter that teams in top 5 may prefer to take bradford and still have a pick in 1st round than pick a QB. I’m just sayin this isn’t over yet
so Eags value Bradford as a 3rd’ish i guess, and Kelly’s flipping him for top5. NFL gms arent this dumb
Read somewhere on twitter that teams in top 5 may prefer to take bradford and still have a pick in 1st round than pick a QB. I’m just sayin this isn’t over yet
From the Rams website “If Bradford starts 8 games or more, Rams get Eagles 2016 2nd rounder. If
he starts less, Philly gets Rams’ 4th round. If he gets re-injured,
Eagles get Rams’ 3rd round pick. In other words, Rams are pretty much
guaranteed to give up a 2016 NFL Draft pick.”
So now we are here hoping Sanchez wins the starting job to protect our 2nd round pick. Awesome
We gave up the 2nd rounder regardless
That’s from their message board, right, not an official team announcement?
We are still at 20…And if TB or TEN were stupid enough to take Bradford, we are still VERY far away from 1 or 2.
TENN is at 2..?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000407751/article/2015-nfl-draft-order-top-three-needs-for-all-32-teams
Despite being still in disbelief, I am trying to stay positive.
So, basically, the Eagles have more than 6 weeks to continue working on another trade.
Free Agency is not even 4 hours old. Lots of quality Free Agents left.
Let’s go Eagles!
Sam just ate about 2/5th of remaining cap.
If he stays. Also the guaranteed money of his remaining contract stays with the Rams. So basically the Eagles ‘only’ have to eat his base salary. IF he stays…
Sam Bradford has no value. Nay, he has negative value.
which is 13m. eags can get out from under it with no hit, but it’s on the books. heck, it might be 16m, i looked quickly and was annoyed.
Oh thats right he has a stupid big contract. Makes it so much better.
Imagine you have Dave Spadaros job and have to talk up Bradford. It’s like selling the pope a double bed.
Just trying to have the bigger picture in mind. There must be a plan, must’n it?!
I’m telling this to myself since the news broke that WE are the ones who pay with extra draft picks. Nobody could believe this.
The only approach is: this is too crazy. But oftentimes, that’s just denial.
I don’t envy him today. He’s not taken seriously already and if he even tries to say this is a good trade for the Eagles with a straight face, he’ll probably be assaulted in the parking long.
LOL just get me my safety and I’m fine with all of this
Me too. S, veteran RB, and another CB.
I commend your effort. I have a feeling this story doesnt have a happy ending.
Just don’t get this one… It didn’t put us closer to our “goal” of being in a higher position. In fact, we are in worse position without a second and nick foles. We also have a ridiculous contract on the books. I don’t care what the end goal is, there is no rational thinking on this move. Bradford would’ve been let go and had much cheaper in the next few days.
Bradford’s jersey is in the hall of fame already for his 2010 season. Cant say that about Foles, oh wait.
we need to step back and ask, why weren’t YOU hired as the coach?
Mmm probably because nobody knows who I am.
kelly wasnt hired to be GM either in ’13, maybe for good reasons
maybe he should’ve have gotten his start in 2013 so we didn’t have to wait for him to get his team that he wants.
lot of good coaches, better resumes than kelly, stink as coach/gm.
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honestly, if he flips bradford for another 3rd/4th, then he rec’d about the value i thought Foles had. i’d be happier with trade if bradford wasnt even invovled, man i cant stand him. just the threat of him being qb bothers me.
Fisher is fucking the Eagles for hiring Kotite over Him from 25 years ago.
Either Eagles win Super Bowl or Kelly goes down in flames. Either way it will be entertaining to watch.
This deal as reported has to be wrong, right?
It makes absolutely no sense. Bradford is crap.
Chip Kelly can’t be this horrible as a GM, right?
There’s got to me more, right?
right?
do we want the coach to have the team he wants or the team we want?
He doesn’t want Sam Bradford. He had to take him to get that pick. IMO it is another HUGE steal by the Rams.
what pick?
What pick? As is being reported, we got the Rams fifth round pick in exchange for our fourth round pick and we also give the Rams a second round pick next year. We did not get the Rams first round pick.
what are you talking about we didn’t get anything. we gave up a boatload for a broken qb
Wait a fucking second. I thought I read we got the 10 and gave the 20. Did that not happen?
No. That was initially reported, but was wrong.
We gave up Foles, 2015 4th and 2016 2nd.
We got: Bradford, 2015 5th and possibly another 2016 draft pick depending on how much Bradford sucks or gets injured.
That is why everyone is so unhappy.
Yeah we didnt get the 10….oh my.
Fly or Die mode now. What else can you do once you are on the roller coaster, but take the ride.
Tommy please, speak comfort to us!!!
It won’t do that. If you want a simulation I’ll give it to you:
2 Years ago the Eagles took a chance on a coach who could be special. Sam Bradford (hop in the way back machine, point out all the reasons he was #1 over Suh in the first place). I don’t totally get it, but I believe in Chip and I want Chip to have the guys he wants as that give him the best chance to be special.
When chip gets fired next year we might get some real talk. But Tommy will keep an even keel through all of this.
Tommy is going to need to give me a few more hours to cool off before I can stomach a silver-lining piece.
Marc Sessler @MarcSesslerNFL 5m5 minutes ago
Feels like the Foles/Bradford trade is part of a three-team swap. We just don’t know the third team yet.
I been waiting for this glimpse of hope!
Thats what I’m trying to say!
Makes sense
The first rational tweet I have seen in the last 57 minutes!
I need to logoff and not come back til we hear who that third team is :p
Thats what everyone is saying, but it certainly doesn’t feel that way to me. Unless the Eagles just got dooped, I don’t know of a world where Bradford has trade appeal.
He does if someone else pays his salary and his future salary
That is my point. What team wants to pay to take that player with that salary? It makes no sense.
That would be us. Then we trade.
That would actually be brilliant. Clear all the space to absorb bradford to get the deal through.
Brilliant = genius = chip …?? We’ll see…
Im not quite sure I understand. We pay the salary some how? Is that something that can even happen in the NFL?
We could pay some or all of Bradford’s salary. We have the cap space lol. Then we trade for Mariota
Correct sir
Sweet baby jesus. Give it to me. Asap.
If that’s the plan, you want that already lined up. I don’t give up Foles, a swap of picks this year, and a 2016 2nd for the hope that Tampa or Tennessee might like Bradford.
Completely agree. If there was a three team contingency, you do that at the time… Not hope and cross your fingers after getting ripped off. Sorry for jumping off the kelly train, but by itself this trade does not have any semblance of a rational thought.
It sounds like he’s just reaching for an explanation that makes any sense like the rest of us.
On the bright side, in 2010 if we were to choose between Bradford, Foles or a then highschool player in Hawaii as are starter in `2015, we would hands down have picked Bradfo… jesus, i am trying. i am trying
I love kendricks but at this point I wouldn’t be upset if he was part of deal that got bradford out of here and MM here. Marriota is the only thing that can salvage this offseason.
Help me out here. If a team in the top 6 wanted Bradford, why wouldn’t it have just acquired him from the Rams? This whole three-way scenario depends not only on some other dumbass wanting Bradford but on the Rams wanting Foles more than its top 6 pick. Is that feasible?
As I see it (and while I’m not drunk, I’m as down as everybody) this is the only situation where the Eagles can come out of this as a winner. Rams liked Foles more than they liked, let’s say, the 10th vs the 2nd overall.
Let’s not forget, maybe they want a WR or something with the 10th and didn’t want to give it up.
This all while the Titans want Bradford and, let’s say, Kendricks.
Not saying that’s the case. But that’s the only scenario where we’ll come out of this.
Maybe a team would take Bradford (but not Foles) in addition to a crap-load of draft picks that we are offering to move up.
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
26s26 seconds ago
Chip Kelly is on the phones making these trades. Howie Roseman has
negotiated a few contracts, like the Graham deal. But it’s Chip’s Ship.
oh god
HAHA love this
Already knew that. Depressing nonetheless.
And Graham signed a deal commensurate to his production and ability, that doesn’t wreck the team’s cap.
Looks like Lurie gave the wrong guy control of personnel.
I am praying for a further shoe to drop but i just cannot see how. Only thing that makes sense is that bradford will be our QB next year.
I feel like a rubbernecker passing a car wreck. Can’t look away and can’t bear to watch.
hahaha! No one knows what is happening!
Key point in making this trade. How the hell do you do the deal without at least having Bradford come in and take a physical?
Him failing it might be our only hope.
Wow! Things may change as this shakes out, but it sure looks like Chip is getting schooled by everybody (Rams, Indy, agents).
“Slinging” Sammy BRadford or “in a Sling” Sammy BRadford…
PSA: Don’t spend all night on Twitter waiting for the other proverbial shoe to drop.
Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL 19s20 seconds ago
Told #Eagles plan is keep Bradford, not flip him.
Edit: OR MAYBE NOT?
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 37s37 seconds ago
I wouldn’t. RT @CowboysNation: I think we can end the Mariota to Philly talk.
I hope you guys are having as much fun as I am.
WE DON’T HAVE TO WATCH NICK FOLES “QUARTERBACK” THE EAGLES EVER AGAIN.
Maybe Sam Bradford is good? Maybe we get Mariota. Regardless, no more Nick fucking Foles.
oh
I have not once thought this was the case since I heard the news. My assumption was always “this is part of the bigger plan for Mariota”..
It can’t be true
Just when it couldn’t get any worse
Unless some detail hasn’t been reported, this was by far the worst transaction of my entire life as an Eagles fan.
unless we win games
We were winning with Foles… There’s no way we go through all this upheaval and NOT wind up with Chip’s QB
you could say that about vick or sanchez.
http://media1.giphy.com/media/79rkR9FOX0sKY/giphy.gif
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
9 Sek.
I wouldn’t. RT @CowboysNation: I think we can end the Mariota to Philly talk.
Just a tiny, tiny straw, but I take those.
f dallas
Have this also, but this guy doesn’t have RapSheet’s credibility:
Benjamin Allbright
@AllbrightNFL
4m4 minutes ago
Told #Eagles plan is keep Bradford, not flip him.
Saw it, cried a little and found that Rapsheet quote.
Devner radio host vs national guy.
Grasping at straws I know but all we have right now.
the fact that we get something back if he doesnt play at all lets me know he’s not our guy
Well you have to..for the conditional pick right? It seems more likely that we’re not trading for MM but staying put and getting Hundley.
What are the chances that the Bradford’s Eagles jersey would be a surefire nominee on the defunct ‘Straight Cash Homey’ website in 3-4 years?
I’ll laugh at anyone if they buy a Bradford jersey and he’s only here for a month and a half.
In other news, the stock of Prozac just skyrocketed in Philadelphia. In completely unrelated news, suicides have also skyrocketed there. Back to you, Ben.
less traffic.
This feels like the beginning of the end of Chip’s coaching career in the NFL.
weak sauce comment
usted está loco
Disgusted
lol
Wow. That is among FakeWIPCaller’s all time best!
Geagle you won, Chip broke me, I’m done
Lol I’m not that mad. I was mad 3 days ago when I realized what he was doing. I’m against the timing of the re-build… Don’t hate the moves. Tired of watching dumb fans not appreciate Foles and if I’m being honest, I would rather have Bradford over Marriota or Hundley as long as we can keep him healthy. So I’m not at all upset today, just laughing at all the people who wanna jump off the ledge that ripped me for being upset when I figured out what chip was doing 3 days ago. Funny how the same fools to run their mouth are losing their minds now. I swear my face hurts from smiling 😉
We were winning with Foles… There’s no way we go through all this upheaval and NOT wind up with Chip’s QB.
Also why make all the conditions based on Bradford NOT playing, if we intend to keep him?
I noticed this, if we cut Brad right now the traded would be Foles 4th for 5th 2016 3rd . I don’t know I’m praying there is another shoe to drop because of not I’m pissed
Conflicting reports on that. Schefter said we owe the 2016 pick no matter what.
We could still get a 3rd or 4th in 16 from the Rams – potentially.
Is it me or is there something very fishy about this trade compensation? It seems too good to be true for the Rams… to obvious of a train robbery. It’s like Ocean’s Eleven.
There are a lot of conditions in this trade based on Bradford’s playing time…
nothing in the trade should have been included. you can say he’s shurmur’s qb all you want but Bradford is average and brittle.
It seems like mid 2000’s madden in franchise mode where I would control both teams in a trade to totally fleece the patriots into giving the Eagles Tom Brady for Hank Basket.
I saw this movie about a bus
that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty,
and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called,
‘The Bus That couldn’t Slow Down.
Homer Simpson
The brilliance of….
…giving away Jackson, trading McCoy for a guy with a blown out knee who is far from proven…letting Maclin get away… of course filling the hole opened at guard with nobody…getting a known mediocre guy coming back from a second knee surgery for your QB and has never had a good season AND is expensive and giving away a draft pick.
This is the kind of multiyear building by a guy that decided mike Vick was a better choice that Foles.
I’m actually looking forward to all this. It’s the road to the number one pick.
Look dude… Chip has been scouting this kid since he was 11. In 2 years he will be draft eligible and Chip needs to be in position. Not like this year when he screwed up and fielded a winning team. No no no. He will never lose out on his guy again.
Great! #1 picks are never injury-ridden busts!