2015 Offseason Overview
Posted: March 10th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 2,148 Comments »Happy Free Agency Day!!!
Be patient. Signings don’t officially start until 4pm. Give the Eagles til 430pm before you start complaining about the lack of activity.
Normally I put together a comprehensive offseason plan every year. I’ve been working on it for a couple of weeks, but kept hitting some odd stumbling blocks. The biggest is Marcus Mariota. A normal plan involved signing 1 or 2 key free agents, 2 or 3 mid-level guys and then focusing on the draft.
This year is different. If Chip Kelly really wants to move up for Mariota, the Eagles have to be aggressive in free agency. That could mean 5 or 6 signings. He can’t count on a draft pick until the 4th round. And those guys rarely step in and do much as rookies.
Then the Eagles traded LeSean McCoy. That wasn’t part of my plan and affected my thinking quite a bit. I was surprised at cutting Todd Herremans, Trent Cole and Cary Williams. I figured 2 of them would be back on reduced deals. So clearly I had no idea where Chip was headed.
Most people feel like Chip is thinking this way…load up the defense with talent, the offense can have some of its success due to the scheme. That is an over-simplification, but is probably somewhat right. Chip was willing to pay Frank Gore $5M a year. He was offering Jeremy Maclin just under $10M a year. You can’t say that he’s ignoring the offense. He just feels like that is the side of the ball where he can be more frugal because he can succeed with lesser talent. Anyone who watched the secondary for the last 2 years knows that group could not succeed with lesser talent.
First, let’s talk about the team right now. The Eagles went 10-6 each of the past 2 years. They have a talented roster and a pretty good mixture of youth and experience. Kelly is trying to do something very hard. He’s trying to make a good team great.
Can the Eagles go from a good team to a great team this offseason? Yes, but unfortunately that isn’t likely. It is more realistic to think of that as a 2-year process. And that would require that Chip Kelly and Ed Marynowitz make plenty of good moves and hit a couple of home runs.
Let’s look at the starting lineup as of right now.
QB Nick Foles
RB
WR
WR Jordan Matthews
WR Riley Cooper
TE Brent Celek / Zach Ertz
LT Jason Peters
LG Evan Mathis
C Jason Kelce
RG
RT Lane Johnson
OLB Brandon Graham
DE Fletcher Cox
NT Bennie Logan
DE Cedric Thornton
OLB Connor Barwin
ILB Mychal Kendricks
ILB Kiko Alonso
S
S Malcolm Jenkins
CB
CB Byron Maxwell
P Donnie Jones
K Cody Parkey
LS Jon Dorenbos
The Eagles thought they had RB solved with Frank Gore. That is now back to wide open, with Gore leaning toward going to the Colts. We’ll see how that plays out.
With Maclin headed to KC, there is a hole that must be filled. If the Eagles didn’t want to make a strong push for Mariota, they could focus on getting a WR early in the draft.
RG is a mystery spot. The Eagles have Allen Barbre, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner on the roster now. Barbre would be the most likely option at this point. Gardner and Tobin each made multiple starts at RG in 2014. They were adequate, but nothing more. Reportedly the Eagles made a run at Orlando Franklin, but he got big bucks from the Chargers. The Eagles could use a pick on a G and have him compete with the guys on the roster.
My guess is that the Eagles will land a good Safety in free agency. They did so last year with Jenkins. They made a strong run at Devin McCourty, but Emperor Belichick blackmailed him into staying in New England. The media calls it “re-signing” but we know what really happened.
More than a few people have asked about Nolan Carroll taking over at S. I don’t see that happening. I think he could make the move, but the goal is to get good Safety play. I don’t think Carroll would move there and thrive. I’d rather keep him as a backup CB and Dime LB.
The other starting corner spot will likely be another free agent signing. There have been rumors about Tramon Williams. The Eagles have Jaylen Watkins on the roster. They will almost certainly draft at least one CB. Those guys need time to develop. Signing a veteran buys the Eagles a year or two.
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I do think Chip wants to make a run at Mariota so he needs to fill holes with FAs where possible. Who might be targeted in the next week?
RB
I’d love to see DeMarco Murray drop his price and come to Philly but that isn’t likely. I’ve been a fan of Justin Forsett’s since college (Cal), but Kelly might want a more physical runner. Several guys are coming off injury. Ryan Mathews is the most interesting. He has big time ability when he’s healthy. Stevan Ridley is coming off a torn ACL and has fumbling issues, but is very talented. Roy Helu is healthy, but isn’t a proven starter. He could be an interesting name. He is a good receiver and solid runner.
WR
Houston cut Andre Johnson and you can’t help but wonder if he’s a guy they might like on a short term deal. Johnson is a descending player to be sure, but still caught 85 passes last year. The most interesting young guy is Michael Crabtree. He is inconsistent, but part of that is on the erratic SF passing game. Crabtree could thrive in Kelly’s system. I would not break the bank for him. Also not sure if he’s Kelly’s kind of guy. Seems like a bit of a prima dona and isn’t a great blocker. I have no idea if the Eagles are the least bit interested in Percy Harvin. He’s certainly a great talent. One guy I like as a reclamation project is Hakeem Nicks. He’s got huge hands. Good RAC skills. Can be physical. Not sure why the drop-off in recent years.
Eagles could be patient and see if any other veterans are cut (Mike Wallace, Pierre Garcon). They could also try to trade for Vincent Jackson, who they looked into last October.
RG
There aren’t great options. Clint Boling of the Bengals is interesting. I was a huge fan of his coming out of Georgia. He isn’t the athlete that Kelly normally wants, but Boling looks better on tape than he does on paper. Does a solid job of blocking on the move when you watch him. Played mostly LG in Cincy. Played lots of RG in college. Also has LT and RT experience. Not worth throwing big money at, but worth talking to. Stefen Wisniewski has played mostly C in the NFL. I haven’t had a chance to study him yet. I don’t have a good feel for what’s going to happen at RG.
S
There are 2 key targets…Rahim Moore and Marcus Gilchrist. Moore is more of a centerfielder type. That’s what I think the Eagles need, but they prefer interchangeable Safeties. They like versatile guys. That would be Gilchrist. Put on the SF game and you see him deep a lot. Put in the DEN game and you see him in the slot a lot. There are other times when he plays in the box. Gilchrist isn’t a great player, but he fits what Bill Davis wants and could team well with Jenkins. Da’Norris Searcy is an interesting option as well. Ron Parker is a player being mentioned as a possible target. I have watched some tape of him, but he failed to stand out.
CB
Tramon Williams is the player who makes the most sense. He’s older, but that’s fine with the Eagles plan. They only need someone to start for a year or two. Davon House is a good young player. He’s got upside, but is also a risk since he doesn’t have a ton of starting experience. I cannot imagine the Eagles will try to bid for Darrelle Revis. He’s going to cost a ton. Mid-level guys like Alan Ball and Walter Thurmond III could be of interest.
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My number one goal is getting a good Safety. My preference is Rahim Moore or Marcus Gilchrist.
I also want a veteran CB.
RG is a spot that can wait. The Eagles have bodies there. If the right guy is available at the right price, sign him. The only one who stands out to me is Boling.
There is no RB I covet. I love the thought of Murray, but only at the right price. I think his downhill, power style would be fun to watch in Chip’s offense.
WR is another spot where there is no clear-cut target. I do admit that it would be fun to see Andre Johnson playing for the Eagles.
As much as anything, I”m looking forward to seeing what Chip does. I haven’t had a great feel for his moves so far this offseason. He does things in his own way.
The key to the offseason is figuring out what to do at QB. Do we go for Mariota or build around Nick Foles? Is there someone else Chip secretly covets? I’ll cover QB in a separate post. For now, let’s focus on finding some good free agents.
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Why haven’t the Eagles signed anyone yet? Asleep at the wheel!
considering we keep giving away talent, and havent been able to sign any,. would you be dying to come here?… surprised Maxwell isnt trying to back out of our contract…. before free agency NFL players probably viewed the eagles as a team that would try and get over the hump this year…. then you watch them jettison 9 players, get a #1 CB, and a backup ILB Jones, and traded for Kiko….. with uncertainty about chip wanting to go young at QB… teams prolly started off looking at us as contenders, and i doubt they have that same opinionm of us now
Virgil Green, who some of you coveted, is re-signing with Denver.
they clearly arent listening to me
How far does Murray’s price have to fall? I would take him at 6.5/year
Think Cowboys would re-sign him at that price. I think he takes the money from Oakland, JAX, or TB. TB has been linked to him. If they signed him, I wonder if Doug Martin is attainable.
I would love to pay him in the Jamaal Charles area, with some protection against him falling of the face of the earth
Safety has to be the priority. Plenty of CB in FA and Draft
Sign some S now, and draft CB and WR/RB early.
Polk and Sproles can handle, althought i like to see Gore in green uniform. My favorite non-Eagle player.
Trade-up for a top WR sounds good to me too, if we don’t sign anyone very good in FA.
You’re suggesting these things without factoring the possible trade up for Mariota. Not saying it is or isn’t going to happen but if Chip is trying to fill all the major holes through FA then it makes it seem like we will try to make that trade. Which would render us with no picks to grab these players you are suggesting.
Yeah, earlier, when tempering was able, I think he was going all-in for Mariota because plenty of cap space usually compensates lack of picks, but we have many holes.
Those are very important now
I agree. I would love for him to stick with Foles and build up the roster but with such secrecy who the hell knows what Chip is thinking.
Can you say Nate Allen?
It’s better start Nolan Carroll at CB than Allen at S.
“Trade-up for a top WR sounds good to me too, if we don’t sign anyone very good in FA.”
NOOOOO
I prefer a guy like Crabtree, but we must not let Cooper be the WR1.
Nicks would be very interesting.
I do wonder what AR would want for Knile Davis.
I like Nicks but can he stay healthy? Doesn’t seem like the same guy after the foot problems with the Giants
Started to show old form toward end of year.
Apparently the Pats are going to decline Brandon Browner’s option and the Pats are allowing him to guage other teams’ interest. Jeff McLane says he’s a “name to watch” for the Eagles. That’s vague whether he’s just speculating or has sourced info.
Per local radio, he wasn’t that good.
https://twitter.com/RacistChip
must follow, the WR part is great
ROFL – I love comedy.
“If only Cooper and Maehl were my starting wideouts…Oh Wait!”
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That account is hilarious.
amazing
Do you have that video of Steven A. over in Africa helping out the people of his race , that he pretends to care about so much?
Quasi-WR option available!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
20s21 seconds ago
The #Saints have called around, open to shopping many of their players, source say. One notable player included: TE Jimmy Graham. For real.
Graham = Cracker = #culture
Get that man!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
24s25 seconds ago
Jimmy Graham signed a 4-year, $40M deal last year. Has a $5M roster bonus due in 2 days. Clock is ticking for a #Saints deal.
When did OG Jahri Evans become a FA?
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He’s been mentioned as a possible cap casualty, but it hasn’t happened yet.
Would love to see philly sign Moore out of Oakland. Kind of a sleeper who wouldnt cost too much. The same can be said about the Safety Moore from Denver. He’s only 25 and would be a great compliment to Jenkins. As for half-back, im not too sure. Cj Spiller would be nice, but hes gonna get paid a lot. Ryan Matthews would fit, but hes fragile. Murray for a decent price is ideal, but if hes going to take less money it will be with Dallas. Forsett is getting up their in age, and this year might just be a one year wonder. I feel like we have to at least fill a 1 guy at every hole if we are gonna sell this draft for mariota, which im fine with.
can not allow Ryan Mathews to bring is soft brand of football into our city…
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Forsett or draft a kid in the 4th
you are right. not sure which back slips to the 4th that kelly would like. the draft is extremely deep at rb though so im sure he’ll find someone. as of right now i trust polk as our goaline runner, sproles as the 3rd down back, and potential pick/sign to have a rb by committee.
OK 20 minutes…You’d think at my age…over 50…I wouldn’t be so excited about FA like this. I have my loud Hawaiian print towel ready to dry off after our FA splash…Aloha.
Don’t make us all sit around and contemplate how sad our lives are that we’re getting all excited about this.
Jay Glazer
@JayGlazer
40s40 seconds ago
The Saints and Seahawks are trying to finalize trade Jimmy Graham and a 4th rounder for Max Unger and Seattle first rounder
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The rich get richer…
Wow, that’s crazy
It’s what happens when you constantly push salary to future years. You’re forced to make moves like this.
Sorry, but Seattle is stupid, trading 2 1st rounds picks in a row?
Jimmy G and Marshawn? W/ that defense? I’m glad we played them last year.
But Wilson just lost his 2 best OLs, they have zero OL right now.
don’t even need them. he’ll just bootleg, very rarely throws from pocket.
I am not sure if another Jimmy Graham could have been had at #31…
Ryan Mathews is the softest RB in the NFL.. going into the chargers game chips first year, i said he was so soft that the would fumble…. guess what happened?
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If we wanted to trade for Marriotta, i thought we needed to make 5-6 signings….how many signings do we need make after like 3 extra unexpected cuts? i also not sure that we are done cutting people so there could be more.
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i love how in one breathe we can just casual fill whatever holes in the draft, but in the next breathe we are trading away everything for a Hawiian QB to come play in the NFC east…. are we going to have draft picks or not?
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we have a lot already invested in the OL, yet we felt the need to try and sign one of the two most expensive Guards in the market, we missed… yet we can be ok letting Tobin, Garner, and Barbre compete for the starting spot? then what the hell were we trying to spend 30mil on a guard for?
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If they dont end up with Rahim, or Gilchrist, i have no words to even describe what I would feel..
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Lets see, as of now we need to draft:
1) starting caliber Guard
2) WR
3)CB
4) OLB (we need a 4th, Braman doesnt count)
5) might need a RB
6) Might need a TE (lost Casey, prolly Celeks last year, we probably want to carry 4 TE’s anyway)
7) might want to get an interior pass rusher this year, so he can be ready to replace Curry when we lose him after this year
8) possibly a safety
,…
how many draft picks are we trading away for another young QB, as if the one we have is done improving?
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Gilchrist, Rahim, Clint B, Forsett, maybe Cecil Short or Denarrious Moore,
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if we cant get one of those players just put an end to free agency. Rather fill the roster with undrafted young players then to just sign free agents just to sign them
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im surprised Maxwell isnt backing out of his deal with us considering what we lost and how little we added. fingers crossed he is already bering held prisoner at Novacare until he signs the damn contract
that’s a lot even if we were just drafting players, especially considering how we’ve been drafting
Why don’t you wait a couple of days and see what we actually end up doing before you go into rant mode?
im surprised Maxwell isnt backing out of his deal with us considering what we lost and how little we added. fingers crossed he is already bering held prisoner at Novacare until he signs the damn contract
I have to admit that crossed my mind as well..
Think this has crossed all our minds:/
RE: Foles or Mariota
Interesting dilemma. If Chip moves on from Foles, what would the real reason be? I tried to think of some and here goes:
– Chip thinks MM is a special player
– Org is worried about Foles health (or lack thereof)
– Thinks Foles 2014 was more indicative than 2013
Another thing to think about is if Chip doesn’t get MM, does that mean Foles is constantly looking over his shoulder? Does he lose faith in the club or Chip?
What happens if Chip goes after a completely different QB in the draft and jettisons Barkley?
Lots of interesting story lines moving forward.
Try Bradford or Mariota pal! Hahahahahahahs
I really hope this isn’t true.
Schefty reporting it’s true.
Its brilliant! Gets us to #10 with conditional pick and Bradford to offer the titans for Mariota. Im all over this shit, Chip is the mad genius!
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
51s51 seconds ago
#Saints have a deal. They’re working out the logistics of sending TE Jimmy Graham & 4th to #Seahawks for Unger & 1st (@JayGlazer noted 1st)
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
53s53 seconds ago
Saints have spoken to Seattle and at least one other team about a potential Jimmy Graham trade as @JayGlazer and @RapSheet reported.
So you’re saying there’s a chance….
Riley Pooper straight up for Graham!
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
34s35 seconds ago
Trade final: Jimmy Graham to Seattle, per Seahawks official.
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Rahim Moore may not sign for a few days. He had a nasty case of compartment syndrome in 2013 and almost lost his leg. Teams may want to get him in for a medical before offering.
ya not sure if thats something that just comes back though or lingers. I suppose its always smart to be safe and check though, good point.
True, but all of these rumored signings are contingent on passing the physical. There were reported signings last year(Saffold by OAK, Schofield by Lions) that were scuttled by the medicals.
seahawks are getting Jimmy Graham, saints are getting Center Max Unger and draft picks
Unger and a 1st for Graham and a 4th
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
27s27 seconds ago
Kiko Alonso has already been in and out of Philly for physical. Will
officially become Eagle momentarily. Back to Calif to finish rehab.
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So am I the only one with espn on the tv…phone in my hand….tablet open…?
depends what you’re doing with your other hand…
Holy crap!!
Graham to Seahawks!!!
beat me by a while on this. dang
When will we be contenders lol some teams are straight up stacked
dont we have to spend some money here, Im getting impatient and its only just started
Some teams are like dream teams.
takes time…we were terrible. some eagles fans are delusional.
This. 4-12 does not mean we were a stacked team before. Takes time to turn over a bad roster with only a few pieces.
I liked the strides the D made over last year. I’d like to see that from Foles this year, but no one has any idea who our starting QB is going to be next year.
we’re treading water. need a franchise qb AND years of good drafts or a great draft
Aaron Wilson
@RavensInsider
32s32 seconds ago
Haloti Ngata traded to Detroit Lions, according to a source
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Haloti Ngata Traded to the Lions….
Why would Ravens trade Ngata away? Too high a price tag? What did they get?
he didn’t want to take a pay cut. They didn’t have $$ to keep him.
So Lions giving him Suh’s money?
his rookie $, basically. They’ll probably extend him. Good move for them.
T minus 5 minutes and counting….
Some blockbuter moves, none involving Eagles.
Saints traded away their 2nd biggest star!! Fire Sean Payton. Send him to some college job!! He is too arrogant, overbearing!! Maybe even a racist!!
half racist
jimmy graham to seattle
Sam Bradford?
Whoaaaa
Sam Bradford to Eagles. Don’t like.
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
20s20 seconds ago
Filed to ESPN: Rams close to trading QB Sam Bradford to Philadelphia for Nick Foles and draft-pick compensation, per sources.
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That’s terrible.
Why
Hahahahahaha YES!!! Foles going to play with a top ranked defense in a city who will appreciate him. Good for him!!! Hahahaha Sam Bradford hahahaha i can’t stop laughing
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/575385148763561984
Why isn’t Foles worth more than Bradford? Shouldn’t we be getting picks, too?
I’m not the biggest NF fan, but this better be a First that’s coming back.
We’re sending them picks with Foles. Terrible.
and we’re taking sames $13M? CK must HATE foles
I can’t believe this. This cannot be happening.
awful if we are giving up picks.
WHAT??? WHY SAM BRADFORD???????????
ewwwww Bradford…why?
Please tell me we are going to flip stupid Bradford. But STL couldn’t trade him with that salary, why should we?
I blame Pat Shurmur. Why’d Chip start listening to him now?
We’re giving them a pick!?!? Fuggin kidding me
said each side is swapping. guess how NO and Sea did 1st and 4th.
We’ll see who gets a pick. That detail is often misreported when player-for-player trades are first announced.
I think we are getting the pick
mclane reporting its a done deal. goddamnit. only qb i hate more than bradford is stafford
McLane is saying it’s for draft picks. Maybe Bradford is getting flipped to TEN?
only thing that could piss me off more is signing nate allen. whelp, i live in myrtle beach, september is still nice, probably go dog shopping here in a month.
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sux being an eagles fan. it’s relentless
yeah me too, 100% terrible. 2 ACLs back to back and not even good before that AND he’s on the last year of his deal.
might as well sign nate. turn the knife.
don’t rule it out. Fletch might even be back.
and sanchez !!
how much do you watch when you hate your starter and hate your backup
I’m sick to my stomach
hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA “bRILLIANT” “gENIUS”… i swear i cant stop laughing,. i think im cracking up
I swear to god you are bi-polar
Yea bro you gonna be ok? You’re an emotional mess right now. Calm down and lets get the details before your heart explodes.
i swear to god im thrilled…. tired of listening to this city devalue him. he went to play for a top defense I like to watch… i would have prefered him going to the bills, but i can live with the rams….
lol Oh ight I was just making sure man you were going nuts I didn’t know which way to think.
chip has gone full retard…you never go full retard…
Foles plus a draft pick for Sam Bradford?????????????????
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
43s44 seconds ago
Excuse me, it’s Sam Bradford for Nick Foles, but picks are supposed to be involved. More to come.
And this is when hell will freeze.
Oh wow..i’m not happy about this at all…let me calm down, gonna take a walk around my office and hope that by the time i come back we find out this news was from a fake account or something
https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/575385983413325824
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
15s15 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.
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I’ll believe it when it’s done. The Pats always win.
Maybe we can trade Sam Bradford to the Rams for their #10 to draft Hundley! lol.
Report: Nick Foles, picks traded to St. Louis Rams for QB Sam Bradford
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/575386862329581568
So who gets picks?
can you just paste the whole tweet in here, so we don’t have to click and be sent off this page to see what you are trying to tell us?
doen’st say anthing you don’t know.
Sorry, it should have embedded the tweet
Let’s have some faith. It’s clear this is a move for MM right? We aren’t getting stuck w/ sam bradford right? This is going to be a 2nd rd pick right? right?
Is Sam Bradford white?
up is down, down is up.
3 weeks sober shot in the ass! miller lite time
please tell me this is a bad dream and that I’ll wake up from it soon
after everything else that happened, can you really be that upset? we lost some of our most talent players for nothing.. might as well give away Nick while we are at it…. someone tie MAXWELL up at novacare before he tries to run away and back out of the deal
The Rams blog called looking for you.
Where’s OD, is this what he was talking about?
OD, PLEASE tell me this is a prelude to something more. Because I cannot handle Sam Bradford being the QB of this team. He won’t make it out of freaking TC in one piece.
I can imagine the Simpsons scenes where the angry riot is outside OD’s door.
Think I just popped my knee getting up to get the whiskey..
perfect post, wheres my liquor. Do I have to stay at work
Well this sucks
Sam Bradford? Tommy’s resident Caucasian QB hater is gonna hate this, I look forward to the 5 paragraph review!
What is Chip doing!!!
CK is the new Hinkie. He’s getting injured players to put on the shelf for a year so we can get the #1 pick in 2016.
doubt it. he’d have done it for mariota
Geoff Mosher
@GeoffMosherCSN
41s41 seconds ago
Trade of Foles to Rams agreed upon, per source. Details still be working out.
I want details, dammit. Who gets picks? Conflicting info.
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It better be foles for stafford and #10 pick,nba salary dump style
now that would be interesting. That’s what the cap room was for!
I would love that. Make sense if you can manage the cap, that you can buy high drafts by taking trash contracts
play bradford for (see even wrote stafford above, i hate them both equally) 6 weeks Vick style. play him till he pops. easier to move from 10 to 6.
what the hell!!!!! Why did we trade for BRADFORD?!?!
so we can repackage him to Tennessee
I’m done
Other FA news:
LB Malcolm Smith to OAK
DT Stephen Paea to WAS
LB Brooks Reed, LB Justin Durant to ATL
CB Buster Skrine to NYJ
wow chips falling fast.
Oakland once again acquires a SB MVP — for way too much money.
I had utmost faith in Kelly. I think I have truly lost it. If this goes bad then this franchise is destroyed for years.
Ya know…Frank Gore and Andre Johnson seem like real good stand-up guys. Maclin too. I’m glad they bailed on this dumpster fire like they did. Best decision they could have made in my opinion.
probably heard the trade rumors and decided to bolt.
If this move isn’t a precusor for some kind of unheard of three team parlay into a top pick that becomes Mariota, I’m done. I’m seriously thinking about becoming a bills fan and maybe I’ll come back to philly when the Chip Kelly/Sam Bradford era is over.
If you’re willing to swtich teams just to switch back then you can move on to the bills. Nobody misses band wagon jumpers.
I’ve been a fan for 30 years and haven’t missed a single snap. Been a loyal season ticket holder for every one of those years. I’ve had plenty of opportunities to jump on or off the band wagon. Allow me one emotional break down in all those years, cause ya know…Sam Bradford
Take deep breathes. This could still end well.
LOL if your definition of ending well is getting MM…. i have a different definition
What the hell is Chip Kelly doing?????
This must involve a third team. Why would Chip prefer Bradford to Foles?!
And the best part is Chip wont be speaking until the owners meetings so allot of waiting and chatter before then…
Its for the 10th pick. The Bradford bit is a Cap dump
All in for Mariota it seems
Breer is saying we get Rams’ 2nd round pick.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 1m1 minute ago
Looks like the pick going with Sam Bradford to Philly is a second-rounder.
hahahahahaha we ate sam bradfords salary for a 2nd? bwahahahahahhaha howie has to be dying laughing in his new office/former janitors closet
This makes mark sanchez’s incentives make more sense. Of course he may have to play.
Let’s hope that draft pick is #10
Am I crazy to be holding out hope that the draft pick compensation is us exchanging first round draft choices with the Rams? Or did we literally just trade Foles and a pick for Sam Bradford?
2nd rd pick dude,,,
well, there goes any good will Chip Kelly may have had
This pretty much shows us its either Bradford or Sanchez that are the starting QBs going forward this year.. WTF!!! lol
2nd rounder coming to us
might as well cut Jason Peters, Mathis, Celek, Meco… full rebuild
I thought you only cared about the defense???? Where is this you can do anything you want with the offense just dont mess with my Philly D?
wtf you want from me… im like the only person that doesnt mind the foles trade and i probably believe in him more thenm any of you… if i didnt care about offense before, without Foles I really dont give a shit…. btw, im talking about slary cap dumps, not how to build an offense….. wake me up when you have a decent OL
@albertbreer
“Looks like the pick going with Sam Bradford to Philly is a second-rounder.”
ammo i suppose for MM.
Thank god we are not giving the picks away
oh cuz that would make such a difference at this point LOL
We better be getting a 1 or 2 back
Really thinking Bradford goes to TEN as part of trade package. Or Tampa. Or Jets.
but why wouldn’t they just trade directly.
Cap dump. Haven’t you been following the sixers?
Jk
It’s still early. Take a pill, eat a banana and take a deep breath. More trades must be imminent.
If by banana, you mean an entire Xanax bar…I’m way ahead of you.
we get no pick? nothing else? i’m speechless i can’t talk if we get nothing besides a broke qb
Breer says we’re getting Rams’ 2nd round pick.
and now saying a swap of picks and conditional next year, so sounds like we are swapping 1st’s and pick next depending on Foles
What a disappointing start to fa
word to that. I am shocked.
Following the sixers…
Is chip secretly doing whatever Hinkie tells him?
you wish!!! hinkie gets top value for his assets
Well that makes it much better, thoughts of giving up a pick with foles was just crazy
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
35s35 seconds ago
Alright… The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
I guess reporters are still nailing down details.
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Do we swap picks to move up?
At one point, he said we get a 2nd. So maybe we give up a later round pick this year plus we get a conditional pick next year.
If the conditional picks is supposed to be a 2nd rounder, I actually like the trade, assuming we dont fuck it up and actually get Marcus Mariota. Allows us to trade next years 2nd too, and still might end up with the Rams pick in that area.
Pretty great trade, Might just cost next year’s first and 2 seconds to get into striking distance
what is it with kelly and ACL’s. there’s 1500+players on NFL rosters, go after one without an dang blown knee
Bradford’s got an arm. no knee but an arm
sure…I have an arm too. And, just like Bradford I’ve never attempted an NFL pass of more than 20 yards
In yesterday’s thread . . . I suggested the Eagles acquire Bradford for Foles, with a swap of 1sts.
But I was kidding!
Stop kidding. Chip is listening and following your advice.
I still have faith this is working out. Just hang in there people.
You must not have been an Eagles fan (or an NFL fan) very long.
What Chip is doing merits plenty of skepticism. Teams don’t generally get better by stripping their roster of Pro Bowl players and replacing them with totally unknown quantities. Given historical draft and free agency outcomes it’s more likely that this turns into a total franchise-wrecking disaster and sets the team back years than that it produces a Super Bowl champion.
thanks for the personal attack. I’m plenty a fan and not stupid either. I think most of his moves so far have made sense.
Seems like full rebuild should have happened two years ago.
At least Nick is going to a decent situation, the rams are a good team waiting to happen with some competent QB play – he can be it.
If he turns into the quarterback he looked like in 2013, this will go down as a dark day in Eagles history.
he’s on a stacked team he’llbe pretty good.
Jergenson -Snead comes to mind.
It was horrible then, could be horrible now.
yep
Bradford makes $16mil this year and is the only QB in the NFL that can’t out throw Mark Sanchez. I guess Chip really hated seeing safeties play deep against the Eagles offense. With this group of WRs and Bradford playing QB we’ll essentially be running screens and dump offs with the occasional Chris Polk handoff on offense.
who cares it’s MM throwing the ball for us.
Bradford has a good arm
6.29 career YPA. short passer sorry.
yeah he’s terrible.
We’ve got the #10 pick now and a 2016 conditional. Bradford is either sitting the bench or getting re-traded. We’re in full mariota mode.
sow e can someone else to take Bradford now?
we shouldn’t bash him then
yeah let’s talk him up in the blogs in case the are listening
ohhhhh ok wait a second….we exchanged 1st rounders too? I hadn’t heard about that? That changes everything…please disregard every over the top, hyperbolic, over-reacting post I just knocked out over the last 15 min
need confirmation.
ive gone completely retraded just following the comments !!
I posted bad info before. His cap hit with the Rams was that amount but that included prorated SB. That stays as dead money with STL and we’re “just” on the books for his $12M plus salary.
N/M this is a pretty good trade. We move to 10, Sammy B gets dumped or traded. Move to 2 from 10 is WAY easier. This must be the first piece.
yay I like it
A:
Confirmation on swap of 1sts?
Where did you see that we move to 10?
Swap of firsts moves us to #10.
Breer just said swap of picks, didn’t say 1st round picks were involved.
Is that swap confirmed?
If so, a No. 2 in 2015 and 2016 gets Eagles to No. 1 or 2.
Please be right bro! lol
chip is moving earth moon and stars to get his boy. this better work
that seems like an awful big price to pay for Foles. Cmon someone confirm this already, Im dyin hea
someone who is saying we swap firsts needs a GD legal cite. Now please.
Breer is saying a swap of picks and a conditional next year for us. Sounds really vague tho. And espn and shefter still saying pick from us. So let’s wait before we punch a baby
WHATS STEPHEN A SAYING ??
I’m fed up. I think Nick can be a franchise player. Better get MM or this whole shit is a bust
Foles can’t run nearly as fast as the 1-legged Bradford, apparently.
Not only must they get MM, he has to be a flat out stud. If he’s anything less than a franchise quarterback, this trade could be a disaster.
nah, if Foles is just average, they gambled on a franchise QB. Now they better get MM first
That’s why I said “could” be a disaster. If Foles turns out to be a franchise QB and MM doesn’t, say hello to one of the worst trades in NFL history.
I hope Byron Maxwell is on a plane to Philly
ID BE ON a plane out of philly if i were him
You mean, before he’s traded?
Didinger said the Rams must be thrilled, they were even thinking about cutting Bradford even with the 13 million owed to him cause of the injuries
Total N.B.A trade.
But only way this makes sense is if Eagles get to No. 10.
Otherwise . . . wtf?
If it doesn’t get them to 10, Chip is either drunk or has been paid off by Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones to sabotage the Eagles.
True he said unless this is something for the grand plan, whatever that is.
Ok . . . so where’s Part-2 of the Trade-Up-The-Ladder to No. 1?
Why hasn’t it been announced?
OregonDucker ?
We just traded Nick Foles for Sam Bradford for a swap of picks.
My guess is that is swap of 1st’s
Correct, ACV is wondering how we go from 10 to 1,2,3 to pick Mariotta
“Let’s look at the starting lineup as of right now.
QB Nick Foles”
Oh look at that. I just pooped myself.
For clarity, i’m hoping for swapped first this year — that’s me reading the tea leaves — need confirmation.
Albert Breer reported it
reported what
No, he just said swap of picks, he didn’t say 1st round picks
you could be more specific.
i tossed this trade out before, but didnt have Bradford invovled. cant stand him, and his 16m salary. guess eags can cut him.
they gotta eat the salary unless they can move him. But thats gotta be why they cleared all of this salary — maybe why they were so focused on that maclin number.
Someone may have already posted this and I apologize for asking, but does anyone have the details on this trade?? Freaking out and can’t find anything other than the EAGLES are giving up picks in this trade which makes no sense. Several people have indicated there’s a swap of picks. Can anyone post a link?
Not known. Schefter initially said pick and Foles for Bradford which is crazy. Albert Breer said Bradford and change for Foles. Next update was that pick was a 2nd. Then he said it involved a swap of picks(didn’t say what round) and Eagles getting a conditional-pick next year.
Thanks Greg. On Albert Breer’s Twitter now (and I hate twitter).
Eagles traded ONE asset, for TWO assets. He’s going to sell the farm for Mariota. Book it.
Breer came to Philadelphia to be there for something big today.
Acquiring Bradford with anything LESS THAN a swap of 1sts can’t be it
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
28s28 seconds ago
And the conditions on the 2016 draft-pick compensation in the Rams/Eagles
deal is somewhat complex. They’re still working that out.
Huh?! 2016?! Is Mariota staying one more year in college???
Genius!
Conditional 2nd rounder in 2016.
We would be swapping 1sts this year and getting a conditional pick next year dependent on if Foles reaches some sort of mark as the starter this year for the rams
OK . . . here’s the deal.
Eagles flip Bradford to the Jets.
With Foles to the Rams and Bradford to the Jets . . . there’s no one standing in thew way of Mariota dropping to No. 20.
EXCEPT THE TITANS!!!
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
1m1 minute ago
QB Jake Locker is retiring. Wow.
lets trade anyone for him
please don’t say we are swapping one’s unless someone is reporting it.
Its Albert Breer who is reporting it.
Nope. Said swap of picks, didn’t say 1sts.
True, but swapping 2nd’s for Foles. Whats next, trading an all pro RB for an injured linebacker?
Who in their right mind would do that?
From reading other sites we get Bradford, swap firsts, and get a conditional second next year. Conditions on the second round pick are yet to be finalized.
what other sites?
I bet Rams get to unload his contract, get Foles and my guess is they will get a 2nd from next season from Eagles. That would actually make some sense in terms of value to move from 20 to 10. Foles aint worth that.
I’m 33 years old. Today is the craziest football day of my life.
I’m soon to be 56. Craziest week in Eagles football during my life.
How much less than the speculated 3 first and 2 second, would it take to move from 10 to 1 compared to 20 to 1?
that is THE question
the first question is do we get their #10 pick
Amen. Really NEED the details on this swap.
but isnt it more fun to just sit here and assume
NO
Draft chart is to be taken with a pinch of salt, but a 2nd round pick moves from 20-10….
We don’t know we are at 10 yet… And if we are, do we still have a 2nd? Just wait
2 1st and 2nd could do it most likely. Much easier to stomarch drafting 10th over 20th
Haloti Ngata was traded for a 4th and a 5th… SMH
Saw that and had the same reaction. Surprised Chip didn’t jump all over that.
Too busy trading QBs.
It’s actually a 4th OR a 5th
even better. awesome
Malcom Jenkins tweets, Calm down people, let the mad Scientist work. Does he know something no one else knows?
yes
Do you know? Please tell!
Don’t discount the value Bradford has in a possible trade.
Yes, B-I-G contract — which expires after 2015.
Bradford, even with all his problems, is still better than Geno and Metz.
Of course, he can’t stay healthy.
But include Bradford with a 2nd and swap of 1sts . . . there’s value there.
So swap of 1st is correct?
Has to be.
Deal makes ZERO sense otherwise.
That’s what albert breer is reporting…but other sites said that the rams would get picks not the eagles….i don’t know what to believe anymore
J:
I can see a 2nd in 2016 going to the Rams.
But not in 2015.
If no swap of 1sts . . . .
Then Kelly’s going to introduce Bradford as the Eagles future at QB.
Especially if we can eat some of the salary. Not a typical NFL deal, but this isn’t a typical offseason.
Dead money is all gone. He’s free to restructure. We can cut him for no charge.
if no dead money why did we take him. Rams could cut him and just trade for Foles.
what if he’s worth a sixth to someone?
We percieve him as asset either as backup with reworked $ or in a trade on.
I don’t care if we get their # 10 pick. But I don’t know and everyone just keeps posting what they think.
True and we can afford him at the moment. If he could stay healthy, he’d be better than Sanchez.
wait, no dead money but is there guaranteed money? cap v. cash?
I think salary guarantees if he makes opening day roster.
there are conflicting posts above how we provided some benefit to the Rams for taking Bradford. I am very confused.
Unless there is some crazy condition in his contract (not totally out of the realm of possibilities he was last of the monster 1st overalls) we aren’t. Conflicting reports likely due to people not understanding how NFL cap works and repeating bad info.
OT–how fast does this thread get to 1000 replies if Tommy doesn’t start a new one???
less than an hour at the current rate
I think I added 200 posts by myself when I was initially freaking out thinking we traded Foles AND picks for Bradford.
2 Ten win seasons in a row and let’s blow it up! Not like we’re talking about unloading old guys. This is crazy
so you admit he got you two ten win seasons in a row. maybe he’s not an idiot?
Never ever said he was an idiot, I’m just wondering what the hell is happening. I think it’s crazy, not saying he’s not going to end up looking like a genius here.
i should have said crazy, not idiot. i’m with you in being like wtf, but i have to assume he isn’t doing all these things randomly. i mean the dude plans eveything
Maybe he’s a good coach and can win with someone else’s roster, but a crappy GM.
Sorry, but the talent differential between Foles-McCoy-Maclin-Jackson and Mariota-Chris Polk-Riley Cooper-Jordan Matthews is enormous. He’s taken an offense that was loaded with Pro Bowl talent (albeit still unproven in Foles’ case) and decimated it. Unless he replaces it with better talent, it is completely legitimate to criticize what he’s doing.
except that FA just started, and there’s a draft, and we had a lot of money tied up in that loaded offense. so it’s really not legit to assume we know where this is headed. you are criticizing something you’ve only seen a fraction of.
Granted. However, he appears to be taking enormous risks right now. What if another team decides it wants Mariota and offers a better package for him? Disaster. What happens if we get Mariota but he turns out to be just a nice college system QB who doesn’t have the ability to win at the NFL level? Disaster. What happens if the free agents he signs to replace the good players he dumped aren’t as good, or the draft picks he makes are busts? Disaster.
Chip has done nothing – NOTHING – to give me faith in his abilities as a talent evaluator. This is a guy who wanted to draft Taylor frickin’ Hart in the 3rd round last year. I don’t see why he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Apparently we get Bradford and 10th pick, along with a second round pick. As everyone has been saying, I am now officially thinking we are going after mariota.
Source please.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 17m17 minutes ago
Alright … The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
but we dont know what round, we’re assuming first, but could be second, but it’s probably a first.
Im gonna shut up now. im just saying what is floating.
Apologies. Just scared to death of the assumption that we swapped 1sts. It’s the logical conclusion, but I don’t want to count my chickens before it’s officially reported by someone.
Respect
That is just people seeing swap of picks and a previous thing about a 2nd and making assumptions.
Respect. It is an assumption.
Re: Why did Kelly Acquire Bradford?
Ray Diddy says Rams were going to release SB.
But Kelly’s taken control of his contract.
And, despite injuries, SB has some value.
Yes, SB’s contract (in last year) is huge. But the kid remains highly talented.
Better than Geno. Better than Metz
Not sure if it was a positive they were going to release him, but Diddy said they were thinking about it. it’s a lot of money to unload, like the money they should unload to get rid of Riley IMO
They had better be getting rid of him. Bradford has been in the NFL for four years and his career passer rating is lower than Foles’ was last season. He’s also injury prone. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call him a bust at this point.
He’s the Jim McMahon of injuries
Remember when Chip said he wasn’t a system coach and adapted his scheme to the roster he had rather than the other way around?
Yeah, he lied.
It’s more likely that he’s the next June Jones than that he’s the next Belichick.
this needs more love
John Middlekauff
@JohnMiddlekauff
13s13 seconds ago
Talked w/ 2 NFL QB coaches & asked them Foles or Bradford? Got two different answers. Only time will well
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for eags it’s neither, this is all about getting MM
If you (universal, not you in particular) like Bradford better than Foles, it’s because you don’t think much of Foles. Not that it matters from an Eagles perspective. There is no way he’s the starting QB here next year. Makes no sense.
Do they get Bradford to do a new deal?
he’s not staying here.
What do you think is going to happen?
He’s getting flipped to another team or dropped once we take MM. Maybe he stays on the bench, but no way he’s starting.
Diddy says has the speed Foles doesn’t have, but still, can Chip possibly think he can keep him from the injuries?
Am i reading this right
If it wasn’t for Shurmur possibly selling him to Kelly, I’d agree.
Still could do a new deal making it easier to move him.
i’m looking at BS’s contract on spotrac, i think he’s out of guarantees. signed 6yrs 79m, 50m g’d, and has 2yrs 26m left. assume he’s out or not much left
Bradford is not the end game here guys! Come on leveler heads will prevail!
AS I YELL FROM MY OFFICE
What is the trade???!!!!
Sort by newest, just posted
Is it a swap of firsts plus their second??? Can someone confirm????
No one knows. Some people are incorrectly assuming that swap of picks must involve 1st round picks
And this is what scares me. Don’t want to leap to any conclusions positive or negative til we hear.
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 17m17 minutes ago
Alright … The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly next next.
But what round?
why do we think the jets want Bradford if we think he sucks?
people are nuts…
There is a gap between what fans think and coaches think.
Your view of QBs would be skewed too if you hadn’t seen a competent one since Kenny O’Brien…
Maybe this ends in us moving up to draft Mariota. Otherwise I don’t understand.
yeah 100%, if there was a question before there isn’t now.
yeah 100%, if there was a question before there isn’t now.
Is that Breer tweet all we know??? So the 2nd round pick is not automatic??
he just said on nfl network that theyre still working out the details of next years conditional pick. but we’re definitely swapping 1st rounders this year
They were going to release him away. I’m still doubtful but I view it as 20 to 10 for foles and a conditional next year for taking Sams ridiculous contract.
Initially said pick going to Eagles was 2nd but then updated said trade involved swap of picks and a conditional 2016 pick. That 2016 pick could most likely be a 2nd or maybe a 2nd is involved in the swap of picks next year.
Locker just retired…sounds like we have to go to #2 for Mm
Titans are happy with ZMettberger, so I heard
Me too. But never know
hah retired? damn, that’s sad
watch us release Bradford… straight up sam hinkie trade
Posted this below but applies here too lol
that’d be fantastic, but i think that’s why we have so much cap room. Maybe we can move Matty B to the jefts for a mid round pick?
Matt Barkely could be worth a 5th rounder, at best.
they will release Bradford… they cant trade him at that salary, no one will give us anything because everyone will know if they wait, we will release him
2 hours ago, the Rams fans probably said the same thing. That’s why it’s so strange.
+, apparently, Bradford has 0 dead for us.
Would make a ton of sense. Doubt he has much trade value, but us restructuring and eating cap then trading him could increase his value. Super Hinkie value deal
no one will trade for his contract, especially when everyone knows just to sit tight and we will release him
Just thought of something. Chip may think his sports science will keep Bradford healthy. Just a shot in the dark
First he’d have to get healthy, right?
That would be the very definition of hubris.
Well Chip right?
It’s time to start double shots
The only parameters that would make any sense are a swap of 1st round picks. The 2nd round pick would be a nice bonus.
My heart is beating SO fast
What is going on in our division? Anyone?
Our cheerleaders will all be wearing grass skirts and coconut bras…
Ok I like that
shootz!
May be the only reason to watch them this season
Heard Vince Willfork is talking to Steve Jones.
I personally do not think Bradford is whiter then foles.
they are very close
Bradford is part Native American I think.
what?
Yeah, 1/16th Cherokee per this old NYT article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/sports/ncaafootball/11bradford.html?_r=4&
i’m 1/32nd. high cheek bones, dead giveaway
What are the conditions on the pick???
Can you sign and trade in the NFL? Bradford has limited value at his cap value, but if we were willing to eat some cap he becomes interesting… not sure if it is possible.
Rand Getlin
@Rand_Getlin
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Source: WR Dwayne Harris will sign a five-year deal with the #Giants worth $3.5M per year. $7.1M fully guaranteed at signing.
He updated it to say it’s $7.1M fully guaranteed. I like Harris but that’s a lot of coin for a #4 WR/STs guy.
does Bradford ever make it to novacare?
Consensus: Should be a no, im guessing
He might get to the Novacare center….
Real question is if he’s in a wheel chair or not
He’d make it to Novacaine.
If for some reason Nick Foles thought Chip Kelly was racist, wait until he gets to St. Louis!
So what if Sam Bradford will be the fall back plan if the Eagles miss out on MM? I still have Gil Brandt’s words in my ears.
The Eagles could trade back from #10 to collect more picks and we’d have fun discussing an actual Eagles draft this year. Just something to think about…
I think that’s the MS deal.
MS?
Marcus Smith
What’s the point of acquiring Bradford???
swapping 1st rounds picks, so its easier to trade for Mariota
Sounds like Bradford was possibly going to be released – so what’s the point of acquiring him? He doesn’t represent any real value in terms of moving up to #10.
its a salary dump. they switched picks with us so they dont have to take the massive cap hit
he’s out of guaranteed money. guess chip wanted BS tossed in just in case eags can get MM?
Who says Nick Foles would have been enough?
Bradford was never going to be released — where’d you hear that?
Taking Bradford and more importantly his salary off of the Rams books when they were considering cutting him anyways, and would definitely cut him if they traded for Foles, is more us giving them something than them giving us something. Rams are thrilled to be able to move on from Bradford without the cap hit. We have the space to accomodate his $12mil hit (4mil will still be taken by Rams because it was from signing bonus). We now can either eat his $12mil cap hit or trade him to a team that might want him.
Haha this is an amazing ride with Chip! Would not have it any other way! We wanted in innovater someone who didnt give a shit about common ways or preconcieved NFL norms! Well here we are baby soak it up drink it in!
Hope you’re right. The guy who invented “New Coke” was an innovatory, too.
But he was a genius in the end!
Classic Coke was a big winner. I wonder, though, what did happen the the New Coke guy? Is he in the Eagles front office?
Hold on to your hat.
I honestly think the real reason why Chip got rid of Foles were his Uggs.
That’s what Stephen A Smith said.
Screaming A. Smith needs fired.
foles was too white. apparently chip is a bit of a racial goldilocks
DIddy: This is to me is beyond scary because they have an awful lot to do.
ODUCKER staying quiet on all this??
Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Shady McCoy, now Nick Foles. That is a lot of talent to lose. Here’s to hoping it works out. I am not comfortable with having Sam Bradford on this team.
he was complaining about you earlier
Bradford cant possibly have value does he? That was the Rams offloading his salary. So it would seem that we would have to get their 10th pick
You have to believe he does. From a PR perspective, bradfords reputation is bad, but you have to think coaches have a idea where he is injury wise and a different thought of his potential.
We get an injury prone, salary polluting QB and they get a young budding Qb who is cost controlled. I would have to think we get up to 10 otherwise I’ll just be sad
Cause to be very, very sad.
All signs are pointing to this being something further. I wouldn’t bet that we are expecting to put Sam on the field in any capacity.
Theoretically the Eagles could sign Bradford to an extension and give him a roster bonus instead of a signing bonus. Then they could trade him and eat the cap hit this year. Basically, you’re saying we’ll pay him the money and take the cap hit and as a result we want better return in a trade.
Hmmm…
Interesting speculation. Thanks again for all the updates.
They could also cut him with no cap casualty
Another team, yes. We’d basically be trading Bradford and cap space. NBA style trade.
highly doubt that… he will be waived at some point I assume
guess seding Bradford is just an afterthought. STL is going with foles, so put him in the trade or cut him, 6 one way, half a dozen another to STL. maybe chip wanted Sam as a backup in case eags dont get MM in draft.
he’s got to agree to the restructure
Is it the pretty boy factor? We have 2 of them now.
you don’t think fletcher cox and beau allen are pretty>?
Could be worse.
No one will trade for Bradfords contract. get real. everyone knows we dont want him and they just have to wait and we will release him..
…
this is a sam hinkie trade, dump Foles for picks… Bradford will be waived
maybe the trade was already in place.
As long as we get MM or Hundley. Otherwise Sam and Sanchez compete for strating qb.
This is what I don’t understand.
Rams could have cut Bradford at 4:00.01 p.m., today, and immediately added $12M in cap space.
Zero dead money.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/sam-bradford/
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Only reasons Eagles take Bradford?
He’s insurance in case deals fall through?
He’s Kelly’s guy for the future (despite 9.25″ hands)?
Or he’s being flipped to someone with lots of cap room . . .
Jets, Titans, Bucs all in Top 6.
Or — since we’re dealing in the fantastic today — the Eagles (i) have a new 3-year contract ready to go in which Bradford’s cap number is cut in half, making him now a much more attractive asset, (ii) Bradford’s traded to the Bucs as part of deal for No. 1, and (iii) the Eagles happily eat $6 million in cap dollars to make this happen.
Otherwise . . . again, why is Bradford here.
As usual, want to upvote you more than once.
You guys please. We traded up for either Trae Waynes or Bud Dupree. Hundley in the 2nd round after we trade up for him.
why waste it, take mariota call it a day
The Mike Ditka, Ricky Williams love affair comes to mind.
Because MM isn’t the end all or be all for this team. It might be for CHIP though.
This is a good point because a young qb without a supporting cast will have a hard time developing in the NFL.
We’re not done with FA yet so everything could change. We could get a premier WR or OL if we don’t get help from FA but this is Chip we’re talking about so who knows?
awesome, dream come true… always wanted a Hawiian QB to help us win those NFC east snow bowls in December
…
trying to figure out what got worst? eagles offense or niners defense?
Keenan lewis wants to leave nola. If we can make that happen i don’t care about the offense anymore.
if you still think Hundley will fall to round two I still have that bridge for sale…. and I dont even like the kid, fat chance he makes it past #30
chip is getting Mariota. i’d hate to be the team that prevents chip from getting his boy. he will burn that city to ashes
If they did this to trade up for Mariota, I think it’s a risky move. If they did it to trade up for Waynes or Dupree, and plan to draft Hundley in the second round, it’s a flat out awful move. Hundley is not that great a prospect.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
hahaha hell yeah!!!
WOOHOO!!!
guess i got a good laugh out of all this
IF we’re getting the #10 pick and don’t trade for Mariota, that’s prime position to land one of the top WRs.
Who’s going to throw to them?
Not Sanchez…
Sammy B might get through a few drives Week 1 before his knee explodes
Kevin White… YES PLEASE
If nothing else, we know Chip will like his name!
G.J. Kinne.
can someone explain how/if we helped the Rams by taking Bradford? did we save them cash and/or cap room?
They saves 12 mill in cap room and potentially get their QB.
thanks I didn’t think NFL worked NBA style. Is that b/c his contract for 2015 is guaranteed?
No, doing a trade versus a release doesn’t matter. The cap hit is the same unless the release is designated a post-June 1st cut. In that case, a chunk of the hit goes against the next year’s cap but you don’t get the actual cap savings until June 1st. If we were just interested in the picks, we wouldn’t have accepted Bradford in the trade. We either want him for ourselves or for a trade asset.
so it doesn’t save STL money?
That’s my understanding of the NFL CBA workings, but I’m no expert. I’m waiting to see one of them explain it.
It does save them money, but no kore than if they cut Sam outright. Chip too Bradford for a reason. Deal makes sense for Rams. Nobody knows what crazyness is oing on inChip’s mind
so are you or Anders correct? or we just took him to kick the tires b/c Rams were cutting him.
GR is right
saved them $12mil in cap space
Taking Bradford and more importantly his salary off of the Rams books when they were considering cutting him anyways, and would definitely cut him if they traded for Foles, is more us giving them something than them giving us something. Rams are thrilled to be able to move on from Bradford without the cap hit. We have the space to accomodate his $12mil hit (4mil will still be taken by Rams because it was from signing bonus). We now can either eat his $12mil cap hit or trade him to a team that might want him.
The Rams have become a much better team
If I am Rams fan, this is really encouraging even with moving down to 20
I’m betting they are pretty happy.
mostly because the nightmare of Sam Bradford is finally over
And it frees up some money.
Sort of. They need to capitalize in the draft at the CB and receiver position right?
We’re all set at those two positions right?
Im confused, just to be clear, im not a rams fan.
if you are referring to the eagles, I am not one to look at Riley cooper as a “sorry player” as most put it or to Jordan Matthews as average.
I look at production and the eye test. People laughed when I said Jordan Matthews would get over 700 yards last year. (at least I think I said 700).
I hitch hiked to Lincoln financial field to watch them practice last year from Maryland.
To me, I like our wideouts. Do we sign a free agent? it would help. Do we draft someone? certainly.
But Our priority, is QB and FS now. CB is right after, and OL and LB, then RB, and WR.
We will address all of these positions. Some with stronger moves. I think the stronger moves goes to the higher priority.
FS is the problem. I hear the draft is weak at Safety and the Free agent market is also weak. That’s our issue at the moment. Mccourty would have bought us time.
I think we try to convert someone in the offseason. I really think the eagles want to interchange their corners. where they can all play multiple positions. I wont be surprised if jaylen gets some play at safety.
That acrobatic interception he made tells me everything I need to know. he has potential. but of course, people don’t buy potential. they look at numbers. but what comes first? potential or numbers? you gotta see the potential first.
Your glass is half full. That’s a good thing.
Respect.
Malcolm Jenkins @MalcolmJenkins ·
Calm down people… Just let the mad scientist go to work. #woosah
the fact that we traded Foles should be a signal it’s happening.
100% yes
It’s = ?
MM of course
Didn’t want to assume. Might agree – or the top WR and Hundley in the 2nd…
if it’s only that I’ll be wicked depressed.
Im getting scared… Seems some people are hearing its not a swap of 1st’s…. I would hate if it isnt
There wouldn’t be a point to the trade otherwise.
No one is hearing anything. The exact details haven’t been reported yet. People are speculating.
Mm or bust. Leaves a lot of room for ‘or bust’
For those who are upset at Chip, I can’t help but be glad we’re not the Saints. Just traded one of the top two tight ends to SEATTLE. Ugh.
Many teams have given up “top players” this offseason. The thing I try to remember, is that I am not a coach or football expert. I watch tape and read, but the coaches and management know more than we do.
It was apparent when Andy Reid lost his mind here. We will know when this thing is failing. Now is not the time.
I know alot of people bust on that NJ reporter Elliot Shor Parks.. But hes been on point this off season!
Agreed, he had the Rams talk first
More on point than the most vocal basher of him
heyoooooooooooooooooo
We remember his clickbaiting poorly spelled, grammar free, posts on BGN. Then see nj . Com as a poor continuation of it. Speculation disguised as reporting.
Bradford? Screw you guys, I’m going home.
Given we don’t know much of anything, I would not jump ship so soon. no signs the eagles are incompetent. they must have a plan.
Funny thing(not haha funny)is i was just playing Madden and playing against the steelers with Branford and shady for on the other team when i got the news about fOles.
The end
well this explains everything
woah. surprise ending.
Now we know who to blame.
Mike Triplett
@MikeTriplett
56m
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On top of everything else, just heard from #Saints CB Keenan Lewis, says he wants team to guarantee final three years of deal or let him go.
I would sign him in a heartbeat
That would be hawt
We don’t have that much cap space left but yea do itttt
Makes so much sense, he sees that crappy cap situation. EAGLES w the CAP SPACE GO GET THAT!
Team is in salary cap hell. Sean Peyton is a hell of a coach. Horrible at managing his assets. That team needs to start seriously consider who’s going to replace Brees in a few years too.
New Orleans and San Francisco battling for the basement.
Anyone feel like they watching the real life version of Draft Day?? lol
Seriously!
I was just thinking that LOL
Ha. I didnt like that movie all because it was so fake…or so I thought
lol last week i was talking to someone about it and i think i said “that kind of shit literally never ever ever happens”
Forrest Gump-THe Eagles are like a box of chocolates
Chip = Forrest
MM = Jenny
Does that mean MM is going to romp around with half the NFL before playing out his final season for the Eagles?
Maybe. But it won’t stop chip from following him..
Mike and Ricky
White chocolate. Chip is racist!!
Chip is getting screwed. His cap person =/= Jennifer Garner.
hahaha eeew Roseman
Any news on Maxwell yet?
done deal
So Kelly can trade him now?
Is Jason Sehorn available? He would be a good fit for Kelly’s #culture.
Has it been reported yet?
He 6 years 60 mil 25 guaranteed
I’m not believing anything till Eagles announce it.
6yr/60m/25m guaranteed
Another thought to throw in – maybe they’re targeting Kaepernick?
I hope not, but don’t forget that nugget.
nah their GM came out and said hes not going anywhere so doubt that.
and you believed him???
100%
Say no to drugs.
Which of the new Colts will be the first to say, “Dream Team”?
hopefully gore
Wait! It was Jim Irsay! Of course!
“Let the games begin!!!! Building that MONSTER!!!!!!!!”
That guy’s such an effin’ choad.
Can’t wait for “The Monster” to go 7-9 and miss the playoffs.
I said this yesterday but we shouldn’t absorb Bradford’s contract if the Rams did include him in a deal for Foles. Well shit that effectively cut our 30m cap space to like 14m but it’ll be a 3.5m dead money hit if we cut him.
do we automatically eat that 14? of if we move SB or cut him do we get $$ back?
its $12mil and if hes cut we eat it. If he’s traded the recieving team takes it on
We can cut Bradford for 0 cap dead money, Rams eats the 3.5
what is “dead money” as opposed to counting against the cap?
Couldn’t the Rams just cut him?
Dead money counts against the cap even if he is cut (or traded).
yes, guess he’s just a throw in. stl didnt need him around with foles as obvious #1 now. maybe eags gave conseridations on the 2nd, to get rights to bradford. just in case it doesnt work with them drafting MM.
I’m hoping the deal for MM is done. If I have to wait a month to see how that plays out, I can’t make it.
If it’s not already done, the price just skyrocketed. Noone’s going to believe Chip’s going into the season with Bradford and Sanchez.
see if Bradford even comes to philly. if sam is cut tomorrow, chip has his boy in his back pocket.
O sweet. Fuck Bradford then!
I hope foles doesn’t blow his knee on that artificial turf over there.
Philadelphia Eagles
@Eagles
23s23 seconds ago
OFFICIAL: #Eagles acquire LB Kiko Alonso from Buffalo in exchange for RB LeSean McCoy.
oh we didn’t want to back out on that now?
Whaaaaaaat! We traded Shady? Who’s going to run the football!
Ricky Williams . They need to make the dirty thirty happy.
I’m glad this leaked earlier, would’ve been one crazy day otherwise.
What? They traded McCoy? WTF?
now we’re losing Shady? As long as keep Mac I’m ok…
or if we get McCourty…
or if we get Maxwell…
Jeff McLane
@Jeff_McLane
35s36 seconds ago
As @AlbertBreer said, #Eagles-#Rams are swapping picks (don’t know which round yet) and a 2016 conditional going to the Birds.
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thanks McLane for the update.
just saw swap 1st round picks 2015 on NFL network
Either Howie has been working the phone hard and knows that MM is dropping to 10 or..we’re taking someone else and Brandt was right, In before it’s Jake Fisher and everyone gets their minds blown.
If you get to 10, I think you can package Bradford and some other picks/players to get Mariota
exactly
who the he// wants Bradford
No one wants Bradford though. He’s getting flat out released
I think we can get to 2 with our first next year’s first and maybe a second. Won’t be nearly as crazy. we straight raped the rams on that trade.
Bradford has been so feeble, it’s hard to see who would want him. Of course there is the possibility that Chip found the one person who likes Bradford, and that is why he made the deal.
I doubt it, I think its just getting him farther up board for now. I suppose other factors could be setting up, who knows
I’m glad to see Saints get weaker and Colts get stronger. Move players to the AFC please. Even Bills and Dolphins got better.
Not glad to see the Seahawks get stronger though.
Rams stronger, too.
They still have the draft
Yeah but seahawks got stronger….
Tell that to the defensive tackles they’ll have to face.
we can’t have everything.
RNE:
What have Colts done? AJ & FG? Anything else?
isn’t that enough? they were in the AFC championship game. They signed Trent Cole too.
Great!
Thx
The solve any confusion:
When a team cuts a player any of their gaurenteed money (signing bonus) is prorated to the crrent cap year. Team typically only cut players when the current year base salary is greater than the prorated guarenteed money. This is why we wont cut Cooper right now.
In the event of a trade all of this holds true. The team still is on the hook for the signing bonus money. However in the event of a trade the team recieving the player takes on all non-guarenteed money (base, roster bonus, work out bonus etc.). So a player like DeMeco can be cut with no penalty because the Texans paid all his signing bonus upon trading.
So…we are taking on all of Bradford’s base salary. We can cut him or trade him at any time and it will cost us nothing. We in no way helped the Rams financially. They could hav cut Bradford and been in the exact same financial situation.
awesome
Well articulated.
thanks. I kept wishing for an NBA style never done before move.
K:
That’s exactly why the question is:
What is Kelly planning . . .
beyond taking control of the contract of a player who may have been of interest to TB or TN?
(Very Tom Hagen-esque, if so . . . “what’s in it for the Tattalaglia family? my compliments.”)
How does #10 pick help Chip get MM? The Bradford/Sanchez QB committee is not inspiring me.
10 is closer to 1 than 20. Anders works in math, Anders pls check my work.
I’ll get back to you on that.
Your math frightens and confuses me…
loved this skit
RIP, Phil.
Touche.
How do you not think it does?
I did not know that Bradford wasn’t costing us a heap.
Cool.
Its worth more than 20
History of draft trades since 1967:
8 deals with a team moving from 9-13 to 1-3.
Cost: ranges from, swap of 1sts, plus two firsts to just a 3rd.
Typical cost: 2nd and 3rd, plus swap.
VERY AFFORDABLE if you use 1 pick from 2016.
the ladder is coming!!!
Has to be.
If history teaches us anything, it’s that the move will cost a 2nd and Kendricks.
Kelly holds onto to Bradford to try to move him at some point for a future pick.
who knows now up top they are saying may not include # 10. How can that be?
and please not Kendricks. Give the pick(s) instead.
Thanks for the history.
Look up the Pro Football Reference draft pick trade value chart. It was devised by Jimmy Johnson to assign trade value to draft picks and has been adopted league wide. (I am sure there are tweaks here and there.)
#10 = 1300 points
#20 = 850 points
2nd rounder is at least 270 points, at most ~500 points.
Eagles net [720,950] points in trade value. That is a whole first round pick in value, #22-#27.
So your point is that a trade up from 10 is a lot less costly, right? But I don’t see who our trading partner is. If it isn’t Tampa or Tennessee, can there be a safe trade up?
It could be moot at this point if the 1st rounders were not swapped, but if they were, TEN has been rumored as a partner. Also, NYJ were rumored to be more interested in Bradford than Foles.
Can’t post it by here’s a screen cap of NFL Network reporting it’s a swap of 1sts:
https://twitter.com/danlevythinks/status/575401190726451200
Thanks Greg! its official
yeah bitch!
Nate Allen sighting!!!
you da man with the updates, thanks
philly sports radio must be awesome/…..cant wait to come home
It is but they exaggerate when describing some things. but it is entertaining. you can listen online though
i just wanna hear everyone cry and complain… im overseas, can i listen to local radio? stream sportcenter or CSN? ill be home thursday, so not the end of the world
Im jelly. (jealous). You can, but I don’t have the wherewithal to explain. I use to scan the internet and do stuff like that. I got local radio once in Ethiopia but it was hardly worth how long it took me to do it.
People are going in. Ennis is telling people to look at the big picture.
Theres probably an app for that
so who’s better a healthy Bradford or a healthy foles?
a healthy mariota
ok ok
neither exist
ha
Foles
bradford is extremely accurate and can make all the throws. problem is he’s made of glass. those smoothies have their work cut out for them
that’s what I thought, he is a good qb just gets hurt, but acl is a freak accident too
Adam caplan on espn reporting eagles and Demarco murray have mutual interest
crap
Wtf nfl network reported murray intested in joining eagles lol
we’d be stacked if the $$ is right.
guys is going to be over the hill real quick, but if he runs strong…
“if the $$ is right.” And you can be he’s going to go off on Dallas twice a year.
Is it Jason La Canfera?
Adarn Schefter
Oh damn..there’s actually credibility then
kidding I threw the R and N in there for the fake accounts
I was hoping it was just a typo 🙁
Caplan was on
Caplan said it on ESPN also
Only guy I thought was a better fit in Chip’s offense that was available this offseason. Of course, just cause he’s interested doesn’t mean the Eagles are . . .
Was reported as mutual interest
😀
Looking like we do get that 10, thank god
Just popped in to say:
TOLD Y’ALL NICK WAS GONNA BE TRADED!
FUCK YEAH!
Chip killing it.
PS.
Chip is a motherfucking GENIUS.
don’t go! it’s crazy in here. Your friend is losing his sh*t.
Ok Mr.Accurate calm down now
Good call man, you are THE MAN!!
Cant be right, somebody on this blog promised me Nick Foles and Cary Williams would still be on this team
and maclin
But did you receive word of it in an e-mail?
STICK AROUND!!!
I think we’re all missing the important point here: Bradford will make his money.
EDIT: As all of you know, I’m an idiot. Please go about your day…
Not if he is cut
highly unlikely.
Praying you’re right.
Oh, then I’m very much against this trade!
lol
The story of my life: I was distracted looking up pictures of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer. A tale as old as time…
I have never had a beer in my life, is today the day lol
go right for the hard stuff
Picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
Think on the bright side…colts had to go 1-15 for their QB.
Then of course RG3, RG3.
bring in Demarco and Moore now
Moore who?
Rahim and Denarous bring em both
This has to be the first shoe to drop for Mariota
the first knee to break
Sam doesn’t save Rams any money so I’m think TEN or TB wants him in our trade
just hope it all happens now. I can’t take a month of will we be stuck at 10.
NFL-Network says Shady McCoy is about to step up to the podium in Buffalo. I bet he goes the wrong way and cuts wide…
This is a lovely comment.
Mahalo, my friend! Good to see you posting…
He’ll get there, but he has to try cutting back behind the sponsors logo wall first
Already loses 5 before his first play…
Good tip for Shady. His first.
Is there any concrete information about the conditions on the 2016 pick???
said they’re still working out the details
Nfl network reported it. Just watched and others have posted links.
What is the condition on it??
Conditional pick in 2016 but the swap in 2015 was confirmed.
Dude I am asking WHAT IS THE CONDITION that affects the pick.
They are literally still agreeing this kind of thing dude, nobody knows yet.
Fair enough – all I was trying to figure out was if there was any more concrete information available about that.
Probably tied to playing time, making the playoffs, or being voted to the Probowl.
Haha I understand what possible conditions could be. I just don’t know if there is any info available yet about what the condition(s) is/are in this case.
Sorry, that hasn’t been reported.
This is fun, I’m having fun
Some people are still disagreeing that there is a #20 to #10 swap!!
Its Jeff McLane, he knows shit.
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that NFL Network’s graphics department heard swap of picks and assumed it was 1sts involved
Quite a lot of other people have reported it now.
What is the condition on the 2016 pick?
Not yet reported as final details of that being hashed out.
#10 maybe not part of it now according to Les????
I would have to do my incredible hulk impersonation if they did.
you trying to kill us?
Les Bowen saying it doesn’t include that now!
Around the league news:
Giants sign OT Marshall Newhouse
Giants sign LB Jonathan Casillas
Giants sign WR Dwayne Harris
Vikings sign QB Shaun Hill
Bears to sign WR Eddie Royal
Jets sign CB Buster Skrine
Broncos sign TE Owen Daniels
Colts sign LB Trent Cole(for real this time)
The Giants just spend quite a big deal of money for crappy players or pure ST guy.
Colts gave Trent Cole more money than we gave Brandon Graham
Cole is better than graham. All those guys getting cut next year.
I love Cole, but he’s done. Still adequate but hasn’t been a force for years. Not in love with Brandon either, but he’s got more upside at this point.
LeSean said to Buffalo press conference, It feels good to be appreciated.
aka, good to get more money
Yep
that’s how you measure your worth and appreciation
wait until he dancing around for a 12 yard loss on first and 10
“…the people here are so nice.” TRANSLATION: “People don’t complain when I pour alcohol on their head.”
Les Bowen throwin shade on the first round pick swap.
it’s les. what he does, confuses people. it’s a solid trade, young qb for 1/3 of 1st and a 2nd.
Got the roster blowing up on a Tuesday
Acho shout-out
Jim Thomas
@jthom1
2m2 minutes ago
I’m told by Rams that Bradford-Foles trade does NOT involve swap of first-round picks.
Someone needs to get fired at NFL Network.
Damn, so just a conditional 2nd next year?
Maybe we get their first, but don’t give them ours? That would not involve a swap!
Then what the hell are doing, if we don’t get 10 this is a waste
yes, and we all go back to drinking heavily. They cant do this to us
There’s simply no way this deal happened without swapping first picks.
awesome trade!!!
That can’t be right. Not with Bradford’s salary.
That’s because it’s not right.
Bradfordzzzz
If the Eagles have the 10th pick, and the amish Hawiian Mormon doesnt open his mouth, speak up and pull an Eli Manning, i hope some other team steals him from under our nose… if we have to move mountains for this kid, he better speak up and do his part!
Hes Samoan
We really dont know if we have 10 yet… So many conflicting reports.
wait so now you are on board again. Down below you said Chip is the biggest loser.
amish Hawaiian Mormon?
or amateur hawaiin moron?
Wow, impressive auto-correct translation skills.
Still no confirmation!!! People disagreeing with NFL Network, Jeff McLane!! What the hell is going on!!!
Sheil Kapadia
@SheilKapadia
18s18 seconds ago
@jeff_mclane Scott Hansen said it, credited Albert Breer. Obviously could be a screw-up.
If Hansen blew it, fire his ass.
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dont make me hate Hansen, I like my red zone
So Jeff McLane’s sources are Scott Hansen and Albert Breer? Journalism.
if we don’t get the 10 then what?
we really are going with Sammy b?
No point to this trade without #10.
So…….. if we didn’t swap firsts, that pretty much leaves us staring down the barrel of a bradford/Sanchez QB combo going forward huh.
The tone of Shady’s press conference is that of someone who was dumped and is now characterizing it as “mutual.”
At least its a more amicable split than Desean’s. That was of the keyed car/TV out of the 2nd story window variety.
how in the F do we not have better info available on this yet????
Re: If No Swap of 1’s w/ the Rams
What’s the point of getting Bradford?
To provide camp competition with Sanchez?
Does that put things in a painfully sober perspective?
This can be only explanation, but still does not make sense
What the hell is goin’ on in Philadelphia?!?!
understandable, obviously no commitment to him going into the last year of his deal.
We don’t like white people? SAS got it mixed up
Foles took note that he is probably throwing to Riley Cooper and Jordan Mathews and said… fuck it.
likes hes going to be a starter. Ill be a fan from afar, wish him luck.
Marcus Foles? Family members tend to overreact and overstate.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
1m1 minute ago
DeMarco Murray took note that Sam Bradford is headed to the #Eagles. They ran the same offense in college. #Eagles in the mix.
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No swap according to Rams
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Who is “Rams”?
Reporter from Rams was told by the Rams, as heard by Mikey Miss…Take it for what it is
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 2m2 minutes ago
To be clear, never said anything about first-rounders being exchanged in the Rams/Eagles deal. Just that there will be a swap of 2015 picks.
Please stop regurgitating that there is no 1st round swap. There absolutely is. There would be no point to the trade otherwise.
Unless the point was to infuriate us…
as he drives toward the toll booth
I’m identifying a common theme in your movie references.
Look one post below my friend.
then how do you explain this:
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 2m
2 minutes ago
To be clear, never said anything about first-rounders being exchanged in the Rams/Eagles deal. Just that there will be a swap of 2015 picks.
He is hedging. Seriously look at this trade objectively. We objectively got a worse QB, the most important position on the team and a player Chip has raved about. In return, we get his bloated contract and a conditional 2nd? No. That is not near enough compensation. Please take it to the bank – they swapped 1st round picks.
I agree but I am freaking out given that no one is saying anything. The Frank Gore thing is making me not be able to relax about any of these details.
You’re right, it’s a stupid trade w/o the first round swap or the 2nd rounder outright. Did Kelly get fleeced?
Still doesn’t say NO to 1st swap…
but don’t they understand how anxious I am and that I need clarity on this??
Oh gawd @!#$ it. Wish someone from the Eagles, Rams, or NFL would report official details of the trade and stop jerking us around.
It’s only going to hurt.
This is the Eagles.
People from Rams reporting no 1st round swap.
why is this so hard to report?
WTF is happening?
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu267/BoogaFrito/Its%20Happening%20Chip%20Kelly%20FINAL%20eyes%20WATERMARK.gif
i am in full on panic mode
PAGING JEFF LURIE!!!
Do YOU know what the hell’s going on?
Now would be the IDEAL time to get him to distractedly sign-off on a switch back to kelly green…
Package deal
Cybil?
Ian Rapoport: “Demarco Murray’s market is now really starting to percolate.”
Someone’s been nosing through the thesaurus…
My coffee does that! ANd my ass when I have diarrhea
or the coffee machine
Word of the day calendar.
imagine bradford and murray running the read option?
haha I don’t think so
Try to imagine two more injury prone players at their positions . . .
Ok, besides CJ Spiller
Jake Locker+Ryan Matthews?
Derrick Rose. Greg Oden. You didn’t specify it had to be football.
the guy from the Unbreakable movie. He was fragile.
Well they played together at OU in a spread offense
when they were youngsters
Why haven’t they announced the Maxwell signing??
Seriously how the hell does a news organization not have quality control procedures in place to make sure they don’t report false information? Absolutely pathetic.
You’d be surprised.
No idea…
The Ravens didn’t tender CB Anthony Levine but he played quite well with Baltimore. CB/S versatility and a good STs player.
haha this cracked me up coz with all thats going on you still can report on other things too.. You the man lol
right I am locked in. If we get MM, it’s all gravy. If we get Bradford as QB, I don’t care what else we do.
Truth. Going nuts just listening to NFL network and trying to keep up with the board.
Colt Anderson to colts
He was just extended by the Colts.
Anderson Philly to Colts
If we don’t get #10 out of this I will puke.
Aim away from your keyboard, my friend…
Find a toilet, quickly
Breer just said it’s NOT a first round swap.
lol no he didn’t bruh
Yeah, he did on NFL network. He specifically said it’s not a trade of firsts. Didn’t specify what the swap is which is even more frustrating. I have no idea what the !@#$ is going on.
No, he just said he didn’t know which round, not that it wasn’t a first.
If that conditional 2016 pick is most likely a 1st, I’d take it.
I would think it would have to be the Eagles would be taking a Net $11.5 cap hit (Bardford 13 – Foles 1.5) and a swap of 2nds with a conditional 2/3 next yr doesn’t get that done
So no swap of firsts?
Ugh, the Sanchez deal is starting to make sense, nonsense now
yup
Just read that Bears are getting McPhee and Lions are getting N’gata. Both teams are possibly switching D’s to 3-4. I like Minnesota’s chances of being the challenger to Green Bay in that division.
In these times of the Eagles doing things that make us want to throw a chair through the computer, try to tell yourselves it’s just football. A TV show basically.
Mark Sanchez is Kelly’s desired QB?
WTFIT?
Patience grasshopper, patience…….
oh we’ve been looking for you.
You are finally here! Grace us with your wisdom oh wise one! Tell us the end is not nigh!
The end is but a beginning…..
c’mon tell us something. What is the Bradford trade for, did we get picks?
Please tell me Kelly isn’t totally in love with Bradford and would do everything to get him. Please. I need to hear that. 😉
Repetitive accuracy man… Bradford tears ACLs like clockwork
That’s headline material!
One thing is certain, the Bradford era will be longer than the Gore era.
I’m going to rip that pebble out of your hand in a minute
OD:
I’ve done the draft math —
Unless the Eagles part with a VERY GOOD player, and re-do Bradford’s contract — I just don’t see this happening.
That’s the rub AC. Let’s see the next move and then judge the total picture. The painting is not done yet.
does it end with paint spilled all over the floor or a picture of MM?
We dont know the terms yet, correct? Am I missing something?
No we don’t. It’s just the bad momentum that’s killing basically ALL OF US at the moment. It would make absolutely no sense without the swap.
Just gotta wait. I’m trying not to freak out either. Taking on less talent, more injury and a HUGE contract while giving up a POTENTIAL franchise QB doesnt get you a return…? Kelly can’t be that stupid. I know there is the Shurmur connection, but geez
Don’t want an owner like Jerry Jones, but at least give me one that says WTF are you doing here?
Howie, chilling for a year counting his cash, ready to take back his rightful place next year.
Seriously though, Chip has lost his mind. Then again, he’s the genius.
that’s why they play the games
A.J. Hawk to Bengals
Rams re-sign TE Lance Kendricks
Vikings re-sign G/C Joe Berger
S Marcus Gilchrist visiting Jets
Blood pressure to 200 and counting…
rams bills superbowl.
book that!
One thing to keep in mind as the media and former players turn on our team: Nobody will ever hate the Eagles as much as we do.
Sanchez? Seriously?
Kelly has 60 days to fix this.
I think you’re forgetting a certain G. J. Kinne…
The Tulsa Tulip!
Note: The Tulsa Two-Lip is a dance I strongly recommend stretching beforehand…
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 25s25 seconds ago
Suh, Maclin deals not done yet, per league sources.
I think the teams/agents leak that so they can pretend like they hadn’t agreed to the deals before FA officially started.
or mac just heard about glass joe and said sign me back up
Wow
an hour forty minutes later and we know just as little
I somehow know less. Like, my pants are on backwards for some reason.
All you can do now is: jump, jump!
GREAT call!
Guy reporting on winners and losers so far says this:
Winner: Sam Bradford:
He’s going from Brian Schottenheimer to Chip Kelly. Bradford has a
unique chance to salvage his career for an offense that can’t help but
put up big numbers.
Losers
Mark Sanchez: Remember when he looked like a decent bet to start Week 1 for Philadelphia? That was a great day.
Another loser:
Marcus Mariota: Chip Kelly could still make a play for his former pupil, but it’s looking a lot less likely now. Landing in Philadelphia would have been the least bumpy transition to the NFL for Mariota.
yay sam
sure he can, blow his knee for a 3rd time, or break his shoulder for 2nd (at Least) time.
To echo RobNE, an hour and forty later and all we know is Foles is NOT going to be the Eagles QB for the next 1000 years.
i am dying
If Kelly had moved on this deal with the Rams sooner . . .
I bet he could gotten Scott Wells and Jake Long, plus Bradford, for Foles.
I guess the seahawks trade is how caroll is going to fix goal line play. Run it? Never throw it to jimmy.
Not even Brandon Browner can jam Jimmy Graham
Maxwell still not officially signed, coming from CSN
Been traded
For a 10th round pick?
What?
Kidding.
As Greg said further down, likely just to give perception that deals were not agreed to prior to FA opening
But other deals are done, they can stop pretending now and get the thing done
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
10 Sek.
Details of the Rams/Eagles trade still fluid — People here at NovaCare and in St. Louis still ironing it out.
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
28s28 seconds ago
Details of the Rams/Eagles trade still fluid — People here at NovaCare and in St. Louis still ironing it out.
Nobody knows anything.
I take no news over this wildly bad news from the Rams beat writer any day right now.
I am glad that doesn’t discourage them from reporting the details.
This is how I feel about this proposed trade:
http://i.imgur.com/0GvRGYJ.jpg
I need further moves as nearly $20 million of cap on Sanchez and bradford would be disgusting.
Sam might actually be a decent QB if he wasn’t made of glass. Not happy if we’re not getting the 10th pick out of this.
yeah
is acl really a glass man injury or more of a freak thing?
is maclin made of glass?
what about those guys that celebrate and tare the acl?
what about cruz?
2 back to back
Quantity of injuries and frequency is disturbing. He’s also a career 58% passer admittedly for a horrible team but I don’t know how Chip can consider this a step up.
The Bucs released T/G Anthony Collins. He’d be a good signing to compete at RG.
the whole world is at stake and you are talking about RG.
Love this guy. Altough, according to the multi tasking he obviously can do, maybe he’s a female football fan after all.
we need him on that wall while we just sit here and worry about Bradford from the comfort of our chairs.
Unfortunately, I am starting to wonder if I can handle the truth.
I am a Kelly fan but it is weird to have basically a whole new team coming this year.
it’ll be fun to watch
Percy Harvin released
Wait there is no swap of first round picks???
Les Bowen
@LesBowen
7m
7 minutes ago
Asked Nick’s dad, is this good 4 Nick. “Who knows? We’ll see. He loved the
Eagles, thought it was going be really good there. Things happen”
thanks Les how about telling us the details of the trade.
Wow, so they don’t get a call from Kelly either, at least we know it’s not just the stars who he’s dirt to.
You gotta give it to him CK is relentless, only cares about making eagles better.
where does the tweet say Kelly didn’t call?
From their reactions seemed like they just found out no?
Can’t let them know early or the trade leaks. Sometimes that derails deals.
I think you are reading a lot into it.
Less Les is best.
Let’s keep this blog that way.
Less Les and more Moore?
I’ll bang that drum all night.
Bradford/Sanchez would be as dynamic a battle at QB as was the epic Peete/Detmer battle.
Pete Liske vs. Mike Boryla
Rams traded for another QB today:
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
51s52 seconds ago
Texans traded QB Case Keenum back to the St. Louis Rams for a 7th-round pick in 2016, per league sources.
How is that possible? This was the pick they gave up for Foles?!
They are loading up on central Texas area quarterbacks…
Kinne was worth at least a 7th!
If there is no mariota I don’t get this coach, what is the difference between bradford and foles?
Curly hair vs. Straight hair?
one did vote for pedro the other did not
One was MVP of the Pro bowl.
1300 value of 10th overall
850 value of 20th overall
For a net value of +450 (in draft assets)
450 is the same value as 45th overall in the draft
So If the trade is in fact Bradford+Conditional 2016 1st? for Foles and a swap of 2nds, I think this adds up better in the Eagles favor than the originally reported swap.
That would give the Eagles
Pick 20 (850)
Conditional 2016 1st: Many regard this the same as a 2nd since it is a future pick. Personally I think it holds more value than a typical 2nd round pick so let’s just say 500 points (Pick 40). A swap of 2nds would also add 100 points.
So option A (Swap of 1sts) we’d have: 1300
Option B (Conditional/swap 2nds): 1450
If we dont get a Rams 1st in any way this trade was garbage
What if that conditional pick is most likely a 1st in 2016?
I was thinking the same.
Yeah, that’s what I interpreted it would be in this quick analysis.
We’d trade the conditional pick, along with our first to Tennessee. (among other picks). I placed a 500 point value on the 2016 conditional 1st which would equate to pick 40 this year
We need ammo this year not next, if we’re dead set on Mariota.
http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Raw-Sewage.jpg
Upvote for a Naked Gun quote. I will always upvote any Naked Gun quote from the first two movies.
riley’s dad and bradford’s dad grew up together…oh boy
hahahah
Baloophi . . .
Is Bradford the NFL’s version of Garp’s house now?
I think a better title might be “A Prayer for Ow, My Knee-y!”
Remember, there could be a 2 or 3 team trade in all of this…This could just be step 1
it better be
Yawn. Anyone think if I go watch an episode of Marco Polo maybe this shit will be sorted out by the time I get back?
watch a season just to be safe… get away while you can!
A little distraction watching a man open up trade options and journey into uncharted waters? Sounds like just the thing.
I liked that series, just one season so far right?
I think so. I would describe it as just entertaining enough to keep me coming back for the next episode.
Never had an actual star Dallas Cowboy come to the Eagles that I can think of, someone in their prime, we lost one to them.
I can’t either but I don’t remember nearly as far back as some others here. In fact I’m having trouble thinking of any Cowboys we’ve ever acquired period. I assume it would be bad for business.
Just their placekicker from the 90’s, Chris Bonei, or however you spell that. He came here after he had a few Super Bowl rings of course.
In my country we start revolutions for less than that, rise up eagles nation
Only in a small Moroccan cafe
Oui…
We need some more news to hold us over until we find out what the real trade details are. Come on, reporters, tell us we signed somebody else!
Blake Arnold
@Barnold1993
1m
1 minute ago
Schefter said tons of picks are in the Eagles – Rams trade on ESPN.
Don’t think those are all going to Eagles.
What are they?
there are no answers only more questions.
Like what? Like this?
do you like green eggs and ham? would you like them with Sam Bradford?
I will put him on a train, I will put him on a plane. I do not like this in the dark, I do not want him on our park.
No one has reported that yet. Two teams still working out exact details.
I know. I’m just feeling impatient.
Damn, I had just finished my 7-round mock draft.
LOL
Don’t have to be all, just the important ones. 😉
So, the Rams 1st for the next three years and we send them the 7th they used on Chevy Case?
How can you not be excited about giving up picks to acquire a QB who’s in the last year of his rookie contract at $12m — who hasn’t thrown a pass since Week 7 of the 2013 season — and whom the HC thinks may not beat out Mark Sanchez?!?!?!
It’s all good, though
But, no turnovers last year!
My class starts in 5 minutes. I can’t pay attention until I know these details.
Zumba?
LOL – I wish.
Does it seem like they are testing the fanbase reactions to close the deal or what? so many reports.
the eagles give no fucks about the fan base man. come on
its all about making money and winning (since winning brings money)
so making money is at the fore
…
Dude it is not the time for rational thinking and making sense, today is the day of insanity
Malcolm Jenkins tweets: I don’t like the cowboys but I do like @DeMarcoMurray …. Come on over to the dark side bro! We’ll treat you good!
at least someone is talking
Geoff Mosher retweeted
John Middlekauff @JohnMiddlekauff 6m6 minutes ago
I’m told Maclin is currently on his way to KC, ink may not be dry but it’s a done deal