DBs of Interest

Posted: April 17th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 136 Comments »

The Eagles know they need help in the secondary and they are checking out quite a few DB prospects.

Marshall CB Darryl Roberts visited the NovaCare recently. This is an interesting player. He doesn’t have the ideal size the Eagles love, going “only” 5-11, 187. The Eagles seem to prefer CBs that are 6-0, 200. But as Chip Kelly points out, sometimes you have to compromise. I think it is smart that they’re showing interest in him. This guy can play.

Check out the tape.

You see a CB who can press and be physical. He can also turn and run with the receiver. I was most impressed with the fact that he looked smart and instinctive. He was able to mirror receivers on short and intermediate routes, but he’s not just reacting to them. He has a feel for what they are going to do.

Roberts has good ball skills. He broke up 17 passes in 2014. Troy Hill of Oregon is the only player I saw with more pass breakups. Roberts generally tackles well. He has some “corner” moments when he whiffs, but I’ve seen plenty of impressive tackles by him. He finished his career with 10.5 TFLs so that tells you he’s an aggressive defender. Trae Waynes, the top CB in this class, had 4 in his career.

Roberts opened some eyes with his Pro Day numbers:

40 – 4.38
VJ – 39 inches
BJ – 11’1
BP – 23 reps
3C – 6.66
SS – 4.08

Gil Brandt mentioned him as a 6th or 7th round pick. I seriously doubt that. I’m thinking more like 4th round. Roberts has good tape, good stats and freakish workout numbers. And here’s the thing…you see that athleticism on the tape. He’s not a workout warrior. I think Roberts can be a starting CB in the NFL.

The Eagles also have shown a lot of interest in Penn State DB Adrian Amos. I’m less excited about him.

Full disclosure here…I’m a PSU fan. Instead of overrating their players, I’m often on the other side of things and not as high on them. I guess when you see every play of a kid’s career, the bad memories can be hard to wipe out.

Amos started at CB in 2012 and then moved to S for the past 2 years. He had a solid career. Watch his highlights and you’ll think he was a dominant All-American.

The problem is that there were a lot of “eh” moments between the highlight plays. We’re talking about a guy that is 6-0, 218 and runs 4.56. He has a VJ of 35.5 inches. That’s a terrific combination of size, speed and explosion.

I have 2 big problems with Amos. I don’t see anything special in terms of instincts. He never looks dumb on the field or anything like that, but I just don’t see a player that shows much of a feel for things. The other thing that bothers me is that Amos doesn’t play with any urgency. There was a run play in one game where he was chasing a RB down the field. Amos had a good angle. Out of nowhere, a CB from the backside passed him and made the tackle. The CB was running for his life. Amos wasn’t being lazy, but he also wasn’t going all out. And that wasn’t a one-play anomaly. It’s almost like he plays cautiously.

The Eagles like Amos for a reason…he has good cover skills. He started at CB for a full year and played there after that from time to time. He played in the slot on a regular basis the last 2 years. I actually think Amos could play CB in the NFL. He has good feet and looks natural in man coverage. The Eagles love Safeties that have CB cover skills so Amos makes a ton of sense.

I do think Amos could turn out to be a better pro than college player, but that’s not a sure thing. I think of him as a 4th rounder, but the Eagles might like him more than that. Amos could be drafted as a CB by someone. He has 32 1/4 arms and some teams covet CBs with that kind of length (along with his height and VJ).

Both Roberts and Amos would help themselves with the Eagles if they did well in chalk talks. That’s a point of emphasis for Chip Kelly and Bill Davis. They want prospects who are smart and understand scheme. In a couple of weeks we’ll find out which DBs impressed the Eagles.


136 Comments on “DBs of Interest”

  1. 1 A_T_G said at 11:52 PM on April 17th, 2015:

    Your predictions are usually pretty accurate, so I am curious, Tommy, how you determine the round prediction for a player. To me, when i read that you think Roberts can be a starting CB I think, wow, there are only 64 of them in the league, why draft 100 other guys first? Then I read that Amos might be able to make it, if he is a better pro than college player, and you also expect him to go in the fourth.

    With Roberts, for example, do you see 100 guys more likely to become starters? Do you see 100 guys likely to become better players? Do you watch him and recognize fourth round talent, irrespective of the rest of the pool?

    If it helps, I can share my system, and you are free to incorporate into your grading system. For me, I watch how many angles of each highlight are included in his highlight reel and that is the round I expect him to get drafted. If a player can assemble an entire reel only showing each play once, that is first round talent. Amos, for example, had about four angles of each play, meaning my prediction matches yours.

  2. 2 Anders said at 6:52 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    The correct way is the grade prospect into tiers independent of the talent pool.

    That means that some years there might not be any guys in tier 1 where other years might have 5 etc.

  3. 3 A_T_G said at 7:24 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I have read that, and when I read a guy is a fourth-round talent or has a fourth-round grade, I assume it means what you said. But, when Tommy says he thinks a guy will get taken in the fourth, is that the same thing, or does that take more factors into account, because fourth round talents don’t always get picked in the fourth round.

    Also, how does he decide that a CB he thinks will become a starter and a safety that has to get better just to make it nothing are fourth rounders?

  4. 4 Anders said at 7:45 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think when a guy will be taken takes into account the current talent in this years draft.

    Why Amos might go as high as Roberts is simply because Amos has the size everybody wants in safety and can cover and that will get you picked higher even if your tackling or other things lacks.

  5. 5 unhinged said at 8:30 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    So if you’re looking for filet mignon and there’s only chopped liver, and your hungry, you go with chopped liver and onions and get out of dodge?

  6. 6 A_T_G said at 9:26 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Thanks, Anders. That balance between likelihood of succeeding and payoff if he does is what I was curious about.

  7. 7 unhinged said at 8:33 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Doesn’t size mean anything? Isn’t an 8 minute reel better than a 6 minute reel if the angle replays are a constant?

  8. 8 A_T_G said at 9:21 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Actually, is see 4-7 minutes as the sweet spot. Outside of that, I bump them down a round because they either didn’t make enough plays or they need to get over themselves.

    Likewise, the quality of the geeky friend of a friend that they dupe into making the tape says a lot about their people skills. That little circle before the play starts? That bumps you up a round.

  9. 9 unhinged said at 12:02 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    How about explicit hip-hop soundtracks? They must count for something.

  10. 10 MagsJonesingYesNo said at 4:04 PM on April 18th, 2015:


  11. 11 NinjaP said at 12:55 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Seems like chip can forgive the 5’11 if the player is a great athlete. See Wolff and Watkins.

  12. 12 Media Mike said at 7:41 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    “You must be this big to ride” Billy Davis forgives nobody under 6 foot.

  13. 13 sonofdman said at 10:10 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    How big do you have to be to ride Billy Davis?

  14. 14 ian_no_2 said at 1:20 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Amos is a guy to take a flier on if he’s there in the 7th, or UDFA. The Eagles may have good luck with UDFA signings at safety because of the ‘fast track to DeMarco’s post season glory’ vibe, as the contending team is so weak there. So by that logic you take a QB, OL, or front seven D in the 7th, but I’m all for loading up camp with DB and WR candidates.

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 8:14 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think 7th is rather ambitious talk for him… I WISH!!! Id be surprised if he is still available in the 5th….
    Byron Jones
    Jalen Collins
    Q Rollins
    Randall the ASU safety
    hopefully we end up with one….

  16. 16 Mitchell said at 2:18 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Tommy, why is no one talking about Anthony Harris out of Virginia or Derron Smith out of Fresno State?

  17. 17 Media Mike said at 7:41 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Smith is getting mentions from several guys on Twitter. Not so much with Harris.

  18. 18 ian_no_2 said at 2:20 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Fear not, guys. Brian Baldinger has Mariota falling to the Eagles at 20. From now on, we can discuss Day Two on and ACL timetables.

  19. 19 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:09 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Baldy is an idiot – he falls to 19 where we take Mariota with the pick we traded Bradford for.

    I cannot wait till Mariota goes top 2 and all this idiocy can end… until 2021 where we are trying to sign him as a FA, to be our QB with our new head coach Brian Dawkins….

  20. 20 ian_no_2 said at 6:51 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Dawks’ son hits the draft a year or two before that. I hope we replace his daddy before then.

  21. 21 Media Mike said at 7:42 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Blady’s IQ was permanently stunted due to being born in Pittsburgh.

  22. 22 Mitchell said at 9:04 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    So was his finger.

  23. 23 GEAGLE said at 8:06 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    i hear you man…its like this time of year we spend every day fixated on 95% of the kids that wont be eagles… last year it was Johnny Football… I used to love the predraft process, but now its unbearable…
    Cant wait til the draft,. then again we will spend the week after the draft ripping the eagles because the eagles have a different round grade on a kid then Mel Kiper did…

  24. 24 Media Mike said at 8:17 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think Mariota will go one to Tampa or a team looking to trade into 1.

  25. 25 DanJ3645 said at 3:49 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I wonder if Chip has a level of allowed exception.
    So if your a first to third round DB minimum 6 foot.
    Fourth round 5’11” is allowable.
    With maybe fourth round 1 exception, fiveth round 2 exceptions.

    I know by default you have to compromise as you go deeper into the draft but it feels like Chip is the sort of person to have put rules around what is a the minimum spec of a player per round.
    That way it’s not a compromise any more but an agreed standard.

  26. 26 Anders said at 7:21 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    We did draft 5’11 Watkin in the 4th last year and 5’11 (but 210 pound and freak athlete) Earl Wolff in the 5th.

  27. 27 unhinged said at 8:23 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Boykins is close to 5’9, and I thought Chip or BD called him the best athlete on the team. But I do think if there’s a 5’11 CB ranked just above another position of need like OL. Chip will probably pick the OL. I doubt that the round is more important than how high he has the player ranked

  28. 28 ian_no_2 said at 4:52 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Since Baldinger says the Eagles are picking Mariota at 20, there’s no reason to tweak my 20 Board any more, so ..

    “I need a miracle” 1. Mariota, 2. Cooper, 3. L. Williams, 4. White, 5. Parker
    “May fall” 6. Scherff, 7. Flowers, 8. La’el Collins, 9. K. Johnson, 10. Clemmings,
    “Usually on mocks at 20” 11. P. Dorsett, 12. Erving, 13. J. Fisher, 14. B. Jones

    The last four guys are rising on boards lately but I think if Kevin Johnson and the stud OLs with tackle potential are off the board, Phillip Dorsett is my no. 4 WR in the draft and a guy who can give the offense exactly what it might lack with DJax and Maclin gone. I’m not sold on Strong as I said and Perriman strikes me as a likely bust (who could pan out), and there’s some speedy guys with potential likely to go on day 3. Agholor becomes a value at 52. I don’t think this board gets to Fisher v. Jones, a difficult call.

  29. 29 Mitchell said at 9:10 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    You like Dorsett over strong? I’ll have whatver your having.

  30. 30 ian_no_2 said at 9:11 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think “I need a miracle” got you thinking that way..

  31. 31 Mitchell said at 9:31 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I don’t understand what your saying.

  32. 32 ian_no_2 said at 11:10 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    “A term used by Deadheads back in the day, meaning a ticket to a show
    given as a gift to someone outside the venue who has no ticket. Usually
    given randomly by a stranger. Taken from the Grateful Dead song “I Need a

  33. 33 ian_no_2 said at 2:16 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    btw I stand by everything I said in my combine interview..

  34. 34 GermanEagle said at 7:31 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Can we not just keep Boykin rather than spending additional mid round picks on undersized CBs. Thanks.

  35. 35 Anders said at 7:43 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    5’11 187 is not undersized.

    and we can keep Boykin and still draft Roberts imo, because Carroll and Thurmond might not be here next year

  36. 36 TommyLawlor said at 9:11 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Boykin is 2 inches shorter than Roberts. For better or worse, that means something to the Eagles.

  37. 37 GermanEagle said at 6:08 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I’m glad it doesn’t make a difference to my wife.

  38. 38 Media Mike said at 7:38 AM on April 18th, 2015:


    Other “DBs” of interest

    Eli Manning
    Colin Kaepertrash
    Scam Netwon
    Johnny Streetball
    Rapist Winston

  39. 39 Media Mike said at 7:54 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Does anybody know of a draft simulator where I can run all 32 teams at the same time? Rather than continue to dominate on first pick, I’d like to take the best player for each team using my upper level GM skills.

  40. 40 Greg Richards said at 9:27 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    It’s called doing a 7-round mock draft. First pick doesn’t list their draft board but fanspeak gives you the option of choosing what draft board you want to use. So, for whatever draft board is your option, google to find the website that has that draft board and then do a mock based on it. Or if you want to go super advanced, make an excel spreadsheet listing as many draft boards as you can find and then developing a composite ranking. Or ultra deluxe, factor in standard deviation in one of two ways: give more weight to players who are more consistent in their rankings from one draftnik board to another or give more weight to guys that are rated way higher by one draft board or another because in the actual draft there are wildcard picks. Theoretically speaking, you could call them a “Safe” ranking and a “Risk” ranking. I of course would never be as much of an obsessive compulsive lunatic to do such a thing but I have a friend who has.

  41. 41 unhinged said at 8:01 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    “Doesn’t play with urgency…” that about writes him off. Thanks for the breakdowns, T.

  42. 42 GEAGLE said at 8:02 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    DB isnt as big of a NEED as people make it out to be, for starters, good chance the DB we draft wont even play next year, so I dont have the stomach to hear media and fans cry all year about drafting a kid who wont help next year… the DB NEED is more about getting an outside CB to start grooming on our bench, and possibly a starting safety(tho i wouldnt reach for a safety in the first two rounds of this draft)..
    Byron Jones is the only DB I would want to spend a top 50 pick on… there are other DB’s I like, but I highly doubt they will be my favorite player available when its time to pick in round 1 or 2…. Jones Is special enough to where I would draft him with the quickness(Ill be pissed when Bellicheat gets him)
    there are a handful of other round 1 and 2 DBs that I like, but they wont be my fav players when its time to pick in the first two rounds, so Im hoping some of those DB’s I like, fall into the 3rd…

    The DB we draft probably wont play much next year, so Im in no mood to listen to a dumb fanbase rip a pick because he isnt playing as a rookie,..

  43. 43 GEAGLE said at 8:03 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    “I feel like this is really a much-improved defense,” he said. “We got better on the outside, which we struggled at last year — we had a lot of struggles there on the outside at the corner position, so I feel we’ve upgraded there with [Byron] Maxwell, a guy that you’ve seen make a lot of plays for the Seahawks…A guy like Kiko, who his rookie year was a really outstanding player, up for Defensive Rookie of the Year, a play-maker all over the field; and another guy in [Walter] Thurmond who is expected to definitely push guys to be the starting corner on the other side. So I feel like we upgraded at a lot of positions, and I feel like it’s really going to improve our defense.”-Meco (phillymag has the rest of his quotes)

  44. 44 Media Mike said at 8:05 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Just did this one on fan speak (using draft tek’s big board)

    20: R1P20

    52: R2P20

    84: R3P20

    113: R4P14

    145: R5P9

    156: R5P20

    196: R6P20

    237: R7P20

  45. 45 GEAGLE said at 8:07 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    no one would agree, but Id rather have Byron Jones then Wayans…

  46. 46 unhinged said at 8:12 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    From what I’ve been reading here, I think many folks are Jonesin’ for Byron in the first. You might be surprised. Waynes has been out of the conversation for 20 mostly.

  47. 47 Media Mike said at 8:15 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think Waynes has been out of the convo for 20 because a lot of people don’t have him getting past 11 or 12.

  48. 48 GEAGLE said at 8:15 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    well yeah, Wayans certainly isnt lasting til #20.
    we will NEVER see the first CB not get drafted til #20..
    I dont LOVE Jones at #20, but trade back 5 spots and draft him, works for me…Kids going to be a good player
    I think he will be a drastically better pro then Justin Gilbert

  49. 49 Media Mike said at 8:15 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Interesting nuance between two guys. Good conversation for sure. I’m just a little unsure with Jones because I didn’t hear a lot about him prior to the combine, but guys watching his tape swear he’s not a workout warrior only.

    Interesting either way.

  50. 50 GEAGLE said at 8:17 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    he played at UConn and only played 7 games as a senior..
    Of course Wayans vs. Jones isnt a REAL Convo to have, becuse Wayans wont ever last til 20..
    So the convo would be Wayans at like #12 or Jones at #20-25??

  51. 51 Media Mike said at 8:18 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Is it wrong to say “neither” ……. If weed boy Randy Gregory lasts until 20. Or do we have a Perriman vs. Strong convo for WR?

    I’m just really excited for the draft to get here.

  52. 52 GEAGLE said at 8:23 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    no you arent wrong… DB we draft probably wont even play as a Rookie.. DB is a depth NEED, im sure we have bigger imediate needs like WR or OL..

    Personally, I wouldnt pass on Perriman if he falls to #20. Too sexy of a size/speed combo, Knack for Big Plays which this WR corp currently Lacks… Kid had the most 20 plus yard plays, be great to stick him in chips offense where WR’s often run free…. I struggle with Perriman, sometimes I think he will be lucky to get passed #14, other times I could see a few WR’s going before him dropping him down to the 20’s..
    Stylistically, I think our WR corp can use a Big Play WR like Perriman or Devin Smith.. need a homrun threat, while Jordon is the methodical slot Machine working the center of the field and Coop/Huff split reps on the other side…
    Id probably take Perriman, but I am a big fan of Strong. tough call….

  53. 53 Media Mike said at 8:23 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I don’t really care for Devin Smith that much to be honest.

  54. 54 GEAGLE said at 8:25 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    fair enough…. so much quality available, im sure we will all have our preferences…
    a lot of it comes down to what type of WR are they looking for
    hopefully we get a long ball threat to stretch the field

  55. 55 Media Mike said at 8:27 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    They guys I’m zeroed in on are

    Perriman, Strong, Ag, Green (FSU), Kenny Bell, Mayle.

    Connely at times.

  56. 56 GEAGLE said at 8:33 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    im fine with any one of them…
    I think we are in the early stages of a WR Boom where it becomes easier and easier to draft them, and we start to see draft classes with a high number of WR’s panning out and becoming good pro’s, where as up to a few years ago, there was a lot of bust potential involved in drafting WR’s..
    I think we are going to see WR become one of the easiest positions to draft, and also become “plug n play” position like Guard and RB… WR’s are coming to the NFL more prepared, and the NFL is incorporating a lot of the college game, so the transition from college WR to NFL WR probably will become much easier then it has historically been..

  57. 57 Mitchell said at 9:08 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Smith has something like 90 percent efficiency in deep balls. One of the highest numbers for a wr coming out of college ever. Even if he isn’t amazing, youd still have the deep ball. He would probably be worth it. Has good on short routes to set up the long ball too.

  58. 58 GEAGLE said at 8:28 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    very curious to see what ends up being the draft order of the WR’s that get selected…
    Hopefully the WR chip loves wont be one of the first two WR drafted like last year with ODB…

  59. 59 Media Mike said at 8:31 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I figure if 4 (White, Cooper, Parker, Strong or Perriman) go before we pick and both RBs (Gordon and Gurley) go before 20, it’ll push a nice defender down to us at 20.

    I really hope it pushes a guy down that another team has a real hard-on to draft because I’d love a trade down for some great compensation and still draft a 10 year starter for the O-line like Clemmings or Fisher.

  60. 60 GEAGLE said at 8:37 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    that would be awesone to trade down, get an extra 3rd rounder and still land a day 1 starter…
    Im fine with trading back in round 1, scopping up one of those two OL, Byron Jones or a WR…
    the only way I want to stay at #20, is if a clear cut top #15 talent falls to #20, and he is rated higher then anyone else available,… if we are chosing from similarly graded prospects, Trade Back, heck we could even trade back twice and not make our first pick til the beginning of round 2, and we could still end up with one of the round 1 kids we targeted…

  61. 61 Insomniac said at 1:37 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Perriman doesn’t even look like he runs under 4.3 in pads yet alone..4.4s. He’s overrated and he won’t go first round.

  62. 62 Mitchell said at 1:49 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Which WR do you actually like besides Cooper and White?

  63. 63 Insomniac said at 2:02 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Strong, Conley, Agholor, Smith/Dorsett, McBride, Greene, Goodley, Bell, Smelter, Diggs, Devante Davis.

  64. 64 GermanEagle said at 11:24 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Excuse me ignorance, but who the f is Wayans?

  65. 65 Media Mike said at 8:16 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    And a first pick version.

    Round 2 Pick 3 (OAK): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Damarious Randall, FS, Arizona State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 27 (DEN): Hau’oli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (B)
    Round 3 Pick 4 (OAK): Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Alex Carter, CB, Stanford (A)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Chris Hackett, FS, TCU (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Deon Simon, DT, Northwestern St. (B-)

  66. 66 GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Round 1 Pick 25 (CAR): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Jordan Phillips, DT, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 30 (G.B.): Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Anthony Harris, SS/FS, Virginia (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (D+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada (B-)
    Jameis winston fell to #25 and I passed on him LOL

  67. 67 Mitchell said at 3:42 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I still don’t understand why Harris has fallen so out of favor as of now. First-pick now has him in the 5th? I’m not buying it.

  68. 68 GEAGLE said at 5:52 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    gerrod Holliman was still on the board when I took Harris too…… I wish they would update their grades. I felt like a criminal drafting Jordan phillips at the end of round two and devin smith in almost round 4…

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 8:48 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    A Big Part about the draft equation is how fixated Chip is on making sure he lands Fisher and Grasu?.. Last year, I dont know about you, but to me it seemed that hell or high water, chip was fixated on making sure he got Huff and Hart, which I understand after seeing him miss out on Dion, Long and Kiko the year before in his first NFL Draft
    major piece of this draft puzzle is how fixated will Chip be on getting his oregon boys? Personally I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to see Chip draft Fisher and Grasu….
    Most Eagles fans see what Chip will like in Fisher, but very few Eagles fans consider Hironiss Grasu a draft target, I never hear his name talked about.. Grasu, believe it or not, is so talented that he could mess around and take Jason Kelce’s job at Center, he is that TALENTED… of course, that wouldnt happen because unlike tiny Kelce, Grasu is 300lbs and can also play Guard.
    Drafting Grasu gives chip a starting Guard and future probowl level backup center in case Kelce gets hurt( Kelce has missed plenty of time due to injuries)… I really like Grasu because he is flying under the radar since he didnt run at the combine and put his high level athleticism for a center on Display… But Chip didnt need to see the combine to know what an athlete he is, and grasu is touted for his intelligence, athleticism and Character, I dont understand why eagles fans arent considering him..
    The Only real knock is 32 inch arms, which arent horrible for a Guard, and probably a big upgrade to Kelce… If Chip drafted Fisher and Grasu, he would have a player who can play Guard and Tackle, and another who can play Guard and Center

    I dont know why no eagles fans even talk about the kid…..but I woudnt be the least bit surprised to see Chip fixated on making sure he drafts both Ducks..
    If there was 1 position I would want the Oregon connection for, its OL, I LOVE NOT WORRYING about how 300lb men will translate to running and practicing at chips crazy tempo at all times…
    Grasu is the type of kid “Culture, Brains, IQ” who chip could be fixated on making sure he drafts… and its easy to see Fishers athleticism as a great fit next to Lane…. The athleticism of Lane, Fisher and Kelce blocking down field on screens with Tiny Sproles running behind them would be awesome..

  70. 70 GEAGLE said at 8:49 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    3-1 odds, right now, a year ahead of time that Chip Kelly is going to draft 3-4 DE Deforrest Buckner next year… 3-1 odds
    which is why i can see chip passing on arik Armstead
    what would the Odds be of chip coming out of this draft without a single duck? be a great prop bet in vegas… Odds on how many Ducks chip will draft

  71. 71 Greg Richards said at 9:21 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I’m not sure Grasu will be a prime target. I’m not a film guy but from what I’m read he’s not a strong projection to the guard spot. Best fit at center.

  72. 72 GEAGLE said at 9:35 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    athletic, 298lbs, 32inch arms….chips evaluation could be very different then what we “read”…. like him better then the C/G from USC we looked at last year

  73. 73 RobNE said at 11:03 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Articles now saying no way rivers gets traded to titans. SD saying rivers is not available. We are going to be the only real trade partner.

  74. 74 lonfident said at 11:07 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    Tommy (and everyone else), this is going to sound ridiculous, but someone who posts elsewhere has said Chip likes Eric Rowe so much, the Eagles are actually thinking of making him their first pick. (I’m guessing after a trade down). I wouldn’t have bothering posting this, but this guy seems to actually have a source somewhere in the organization. He predicted the Miles Austin signing, and has been right about things in the past as well. Does ANYONE think there’s ANY chance of this, or was this guy just trolling everyone with this?

  75. 75 ian_no_2 said at 11:25 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I can see it. Rowe has a lot more experience than Byron Jones, he fits the Eagles’ needs and the much discussed size/ speed Chip is looking for.

  76. 76 D3FB said at 3:08 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Rowe played in a better conference but both guys were 4 year starters, and Jones played more games at CB. So I’m not sure how Rowe is “a lot more experienced”.

  77. 77 ian_no_2 said at 4:24 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Rowe started 47 games in the Pac-12 versus 41 games started by Jones in the American Athletic Conference. I don’t advocate taking Rowe in the first round, and don’t count either out as a CB, but I would imagine Rowe as a safety for the Eagles. Rowe played safety for 34 games, Jones 20 games. Seven of the 21 games Jones played at CB, people are blaming on an injury, and are otherwise picking spots where he looked good as a junior in AAC games. I’m not saying Jones can’t make the jump to the NFL, I’m saying you can get guys in the first that are better risks. Rowe at least I can think “Chip got his safety.” If they put him at CB I wait to see if he plays well, but I’d rather have Kevin Johnson at CB than either one.

  78. 78 Joe Minx said at 1:44 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Not sure why you think this is ridiculous, especially if there were a trade-down. Rowe will likely be a late 1st-early 2nd so taking him at 20 really isn’t a stretch.

  79. 79 lonfident said at 1:58 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Maybe I’m brainwashed by all the mocks that still have him going in the 3rd? I don’t know, it just seems like a reach.

  80. 80 D3FB said at 3:07 PM on April 18th, 2015:


    While I’m not as high on Rowe as others, enough evaluators have Rowe, Johnson, and Jones all bunched together that I would be ok with him.

  81. 81 Nu_B said at 11:47 AM on April 18th, 2015:

    I’m hoping we improve at WR, S and CB in this draft. Everything extra is bonus.
    Here are some potential targets at our picks that I like personally, listed in order of preference.

    First round: 20th overall selection — Trae Waynes, Dupree, Perriman, Clemmings, Jones

    Second round: 52d overall selection — Agholor, Rowe, Darby, Rollins, Randall

    Third round: 84th overall selection — Dorsett, Donovan Smith, Amos, Yeldon, Djoun Smith

    Fourth rd: 113th overall selection — Marpet, Hundley, Bell, Drummond, Grissom

    Fifth rd: 145th overall selection — Mager, Geathers, Golson, James, Sample

    Fifth rd: 156th overall selection — Gwacham, Douglas, Ryan, Morse, Holliman

    Sixth rd: 195th overall selection — Harper, Alford, Anthony Harris, Wagenmann, Jarrett

    Seventh rd: 237th overall selection — Lott, Halliday, Troy Hill, Mason, Fajardo

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 12:03 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    i wouldnt call improving the OL a bonus…
    Matter fact there is a better chance we see a rookie OL play for us next year and almost zero chance we see a rookie start at outside CB for us next year

  83. 83 GEAGLE said at 12:00 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Chip claims ODB was the #1 player in last years draft, yet we werent willing to trade up 9 spots to get the best player in the draft at #13 from #22, yet this year we are allegedly trading from #20 up to #1 or #2? …interesting lol to say the least…
    Chip claims that the 3rd round pick was too rich for us to trade up for Brandin Cooks, let alone trading up 9-10 spots to #12 or #13 to select the kid he though was the best player in the draft, but a year later he is going to trade his soul to get the best player moving up 19 spots? I need to see this to believe it..
    wish we could interview Howie, Id be fascinated to ask him a few questions, MAINLY: Is it true Chip Kelly had ODB as the #1 player in the entire draft, and if so, why wouldnt we have traded up 9 spots to secure the best player that also played a position of need?.. wish a reporter would camp out outside howies house til he gives an interview, be very interested to hear howies take on a few things….

  84. 84 unhinged said at 12:47 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    My impression was that Chip really liked Beckham, but he wasn’t as sure as he is now. He made the remarks about him being “the best player in the draft” after he got to see the play of all of those guys for the better part of a full season. Right after the draft it sounded like Chip would have been elated to get any one of the six they had on their first round board. I’d be curious to know how moving up for Beckham would have totally altered the draft for the Eagles. No extra pick, so instead of 6 overall, only 3 left after taking Beckham. He may have still gotten Watkins, but Matthews and Huff doubtful. So Beckham, Watkins, Hart and Reynolds maybe, and the criticism would be “….the richest draft in memory and the Eagles trade away 2 spots and land a star at a position where there is no pressing need, while holes remain unfilled…” Jeremy Maclin would have known straight up that he was playing his last season in Philly, which would raise the issue about CK liking BIG receivers, so why did he sacrifice so much to get a smaller one? I liked Beckham and really hoped he’d fall to us, but I cannot see how trading up to 12 to get him would leave us in a better position today. We’d probably still be anticipating an early pick of a WR this year, and we’d probably have targeted Randall Cobb or someone else to be our slot receiver. Ironically, acquiring Beckham early1st, and having to shop for a slot receiver, draft a BIG receiver early round, CK would be forced to pour more revenue into WR position than he wanted to do.

  85. 85 Mitchell said at 12:55 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Because Odell is a straight up game breaker. It is extremely difficult to cover him and his RAC ability is tremendous. We lose MSII and Matthews because I’m pretty sure we could have traded up with our 1st and a 2nd. I’d take the for Odell TBH.

  86. 86 GEAGLE said at 1:05 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    ODB would probably be the #1 pick in a redraft,.,
    for the bills to have spent a 1st round pick and traded away this years first rounder to secure Sammy Watkins was Moronic! they dont have a first round pick this year because they werent willing to settle for ODB or Mike Evans and they just HAD To Have Sammy…. They Rival the Browns as the biggest fools in the first round last year
    I would be ok with not having MS2, and not having our first round pick this year for ODB… we may not have gotten Pope because we traded the 3rd pick we got for moving back for MSU to trade up for Pope, but I think there was some chance that Jordan would have still fallen to us in round 2, and we would only have Huff or Hart, not both…. thats acceptable trade off for me
    we wouldnt have a first round pick this year, and we wouldnt have Hart, but there is a chance we could have ODB, Pope, and Huff and right now we wouldnt have to spend a pick on a WR this year…. we may not have a first round pick this year, but we wouldnt need to draft a WR in this draft either, so Id be fine with the trade off..
    we would have ODB, Pope, Huff, Cooper til next year, Miles Austin, Maehl…. works for me!!!
    we would need to draft a DE since we wouldnt have Hart, but that can wait til next year when we take Deforrest Buckner, replace Hart with an oregon DE…

  87. 87 unhinged said at 1:28 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I agree w/your opinion of ODB, but I think he would have ended up costing us more. Wasn’t the Huff pick part of the move back for Smith? Or was that Watkins? Either way one of those would be lost in the move up. I’m not sure what we’d be like w/o JM. A game-breaker at WR needs a QB able to throw into coverage because we wouldn’t scare anybody at slot or #2. Ertz would be open a lot, I guess. We’d look different, and having Beckham would be huge, but the challenge would be getting the ball to him, when stopping him would be every defense’s first priority. Now that I think about it, ODB would do more for our running game than possibly DeSean.

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 1:33 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I’m sorry but if Eli can chuck it up for ODB then Foles/Sanchez/Bradford can too. ODB > Huff/Matthews

  89. 89 Mitchell said at 1:44 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    We may not have gotten Matthews because we may have used our 2nd to move up to get OBJ. We used one of our 3rd for huff and the other was received in the traded for MSII which we traded to the Texans for a 4th and 5th, selecting Watkins and Hart.

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 2:03 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    i wouldnt be that surprised to see Jordan Fall to us in round 2 even if we didnt trade up for him… but who knows

  91. 91 Donald Kalinowski said at 4:19 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I doubt he had ODB ranked ahead of Watkins, Clowney, Mack, and Barr.

    Judging the decision to not trade up for him completely depends on what it would have taken the Eagles to get him. Prior to the #22 pick only 2 draft day trades took place, one of which was to move up from 8 to 9. There was a clear decline in talent after pick #18. You had ODB, Aaron Donald, Fuller, Shazier, Martin, Mosley, and Pryor taken in a 7 pick span.

    I keep looking back at #22 where the Eagles were picking last year and I really can’t see someone we missed out on.

  92. 92 BreakinAnklez said at 11:04 AM on April 19th, 2015:

    Can’t compare a WR with a potential franchise QB. In today’s NFL, if you don’t have a Franchise QB you aren’t going anywhere.

  93. 93 Greg Richards said at 12:43 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Eagles bringing in San Jose State DT Travis Raciti for a visit per Matt Barrows of one of the SF newspapers/websites. Per Tommy, the Eagles had their OL coach at his pro day: http://eaglesblog.net/2015/03/eagles-check-out-san-jose-st-ol/

    As Tommie speculated, perhaps they’re looking at him as a conversion to the offensive line a la J.R. Sweezy of the Seahawks. I suppose it’s also possible that Azzinarro and the asst D-line coach were at other schools that day and the OL coach just happened to be close by.

  94. 94 Greg Richards said at 12:56 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter

    4m4 minutes ago

    Jaguars agreed on a 1-year deal with former Raiders C Stefan Wisnewski, per league source.

  95. 95 unhinged said at 12:59 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Bet they draft RB no later than 2.

  96. 96 GEAGLE said at 1:06 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    they are said to be a Dark horse for Adrian Peterson.. It would be HUGE for us if the stepped up and got AP instead of seeing him end up in Dallas or with pigface bruce arians

  97. 97 unhinged said at 1:40 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think we’ve had this discussion before – draft anticipation is like Groundhog Day. Dallas has needs on defense, at RB and TE (Witten’s probably a grandfather). Let the Hardyboys pay through their coked up noses for an RB that has been 18 months of the field, and who is on the wrong side of 30. I’d rather the Hardyboys sign an overpriced RB than a bookend for Dez. Our run defense is top 5.

  98. 98 GEAGLE said at 2:08 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    ultimately it will take more then a stud running back to get me to fear dallas… but i cant stomach to see smug Bruce Arians get him,.,..although Im curious to see what level of Defense Arizona has this year with Bowles gone… you take Todd Bowles arizona defense of last year and give them AP run game, and they become a tough team to beat…
    would rather see AP in Dallas then Zona… Hopefully the Colts dont get AP, they would become a serious contender
    at the end of the day, handle our business and we dont have to worry about what other teams do
    lid probably rather see Dallas get AP then Melvin Gordon or Gurley

  99. 99 unhinged said at 6:51 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Some mocks are picking either of them to go to Arizona. We have Arizona at home this year (3rd consecutive year). Should be a good yardstick for both sides.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 1:37 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Mocking the first round of this draft is pretty hard..
    heck I dont think i can even mock the order the first 10 WR’s drafted come off the board… I bet if 10 of us wrote down the order in which the first 10 WRs will come off the board we would probably have 10 different answers..
    DBs are also pretty darn tough this year since there are a handful of kids who half the teams will view as CB options, and the other half view as Safety options…

  101. 101 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:12 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think this draft is the most up in the air I have ever seen. I think I know the top 10-12 players but I have no idea about the order. After that there are 30-40 players you can rank in any order depending on your scheme, need and preferences. Is going to be fascinating

  102. 102 GEAGLE said at 4:39 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    i look forward til after the draft when you find out exactly who the morons are when The eagles pass on Landon Collins, the “best safety in the draft”… after months of conditioning fans to basically expect Marriota or Landon Collins, Im going to die laughing when we draft someone else and all the fans and media members start ripping the eagles for passing on the best safety in the entire draft lol… I hope he is on the board and we trade back passing on him, and when its time to make our pick, he is still available and we take someone else… fans, talk show dopes and media like Derrick Gun will lose their minds..
    expectations shape our reactions and opinions… after months of every media member telling the fans that we probably will target the top safety, the eagles will be the assholes when they dont take him, instead of blaming the media for putting a wrong idea in their head….as if the eagles will ever pick a safety who college teams purposely targeted to throw at his man because he cant cover,,

  103. 103 NinjaP said at 5:56 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I think a lot of the up in the air feelings is probably you being an eagles fan and not knowing what chip kelly will do. This is our first non Andy reid tree gm in like 15 years.

  104. 104 GEAGLE said at 6:03 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    You arent wrong… but i dont know if i buy that this draft will be any different from last year or the year before, because I believe Howie was giving chip whatever he wanted any way… for this to be a different draft howie had to blatantly go against everything chip wanted last year and I dont buy it… I dont buy that Howie was the reason Huff is an Eagle from round 3, or that howie is the reason for Taylor Hart… i doubt chip would give howie the credit for Jordan Mathews.. he has chip kelly pick written all over him too,.,
    If chip was getting whatever he wanted, then this draft prob wont be very different
    when a few posters figured out that the Eagles would probably like Marcus Smith, it was because of what we knew Chip looks for in an OLB, we didnt like Marcus because he was the type of edge rusher that Howie looks for…
    Beau allen was picked because azzinaro and chip been high on that kid for years, not howie..
    i call bullshit on chip acting like last year wasnt his draft,,,

  105. 105 NinjaP said at 6:11 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Howie had a defined approach. Chip will do things his way.

  106. 106 SteveH said at 2:19 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Put these offseason cliches in order of worthlessness, 1. being the most worthless, 5 being the least worthless.

    Player X’s rehab is ahead of schedule.
    Player X is in the best shape of his life.
    Player X is utilizing Y new training technique to take his game to the next level.
    The coaches are impressed with how hard Player X is working.
    Player X is the first one to show up and the last one to leave.

  107. 107 Iskar36 said at 2:26 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    My favorite part about the “Player X is the first one in last one out” comment is that it gets used for multiple players on the same team.

  108. 108 EaglesFan1 said at 4:32 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Is brandon Boykin able to play safety?

  109. 109 GEAGLE said at 4:33 PM on April 18th, 2015:


  110. 110 Donald Kalinowski said at 4:36 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I don’t think so. I think he’d be a complete waste at S. He should be an elite slot CB. I wonder how Watkins or Thurmond would fare at safety.

  111. 111 Joe Minx said at 4:38 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Look at some of the back & forth ESP has been having today with people who actually know something about football:

    not a scout, but I don't understand how you can watch Landon
    Collins and not want him at No. 20 for #Eagles.—
    Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) April
    18, 2015

    This just
    isn't true. Can he cover like a CB? No. Can he do what #Eagles
    asked Nate Allen to do? Yes, but better https://t.co/EQI1uHOMSN
    Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) April
    18, 2015

    I have a hard
    time picking my players based off of scheme thats produced worst
    secondary in the NFL past 2 seasons https://t.co/JfXy7ZiBZC
    Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) April
    18, 2015

  112. 112 GEAGLE said at 4:40 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    LOL this is gold… thank you for posting this… MVP Post!!!.

  113. 113 Mitchell said at 4:45 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I would rebut with: I know you aren’t a scout because, when you watch Landon Collins, you want him at 20.

  114. 114 GEAGLE said at 4:46 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I would rebut that I know you arent a scout by every single opinion you’ve ever had

  115. 115 Patrick said at 5:40 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Oh in this draft, i’ll take Landon Collins at 20. He looks like he will be a really good SS in the NFL, and I think some Eagles fans massively overestime his flaws.

    Doesn’t change the fact that I would hate it to death if the Eagles where to pick him at 20. Collins’ value to me looks good at 20, just not for the Eagles. Really, really, really not for the Eagles, barring we’re looking to change our scheme from 2 coverage safeties to…well Seattles Cover 3.

  116. 116 botto said at 5:16 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    He’s got a point about the crap our secondary has produced. Cannot deny that

  117. 117 GEAGLE said at 5:45 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    not really…what we had at safety had nothing to do with us wanting a right and left safety… a team that doesnt want a strong safety has no use for a 220lb safety like him,
    there is nothing wrong, or special with our scheme thats to blame for the crap we had at safety… he doesnt have a point even a little bit..

  118. 118 NinjaP said at 5:53 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Yeah but adding players that will struggle in the same scheme doesn’t fix it.

  119. 119 Greg Richards said at 5:27 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    When you’re doing a mock draft, there are two different ways of doing it: what you would do versus what you would think the team would do. If he’s going by the first method, then picking Collins is fine. No credible reporter could actually postulate the Eagles taking Collins based on the second method.

  120. 120 Patrick said at 5:56 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    To be honest its easy to see why he is insisting the Eagles should draft Landon Collins, when the majority of fans want to do the exact same thing. He’ll get a popular tag from anyone who wants Collins, and the people in doubt will see the logic in drafting a safety with the shitty ones we have on the roster, even if said safety isn’t a perfect scheme fit. I do actually agree with ESP that safety is our biggest need by a landslide, no way im starting Wolff, Maragos, Couplin or Reynolds and feeling good about that, but in my mind it still doesnt justify picking Collins high when we have no use for his strength and need all of his weaknesses.

    But to many people its obvious logic, Eagles need a safety so lets get them the #1 ranked safety. Even the NFL twitters mock draft did it:


  121. 121 Greg Richards said at 6:06 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    I’d agree that there are valid arguments to making the selection. One: just because the Eagles have run one scheme the past 2 seasons does not necessarily mean that they will run the same scheme this year. The past 2 seasons our outside CB play has been inconsistent to poor. We’ve also had ILBs that aren’t great in coverage and one OLB position that has improved in coverage from adequate to poor. That has dictated the need to use both safeties in coverage. The Eagles could theoretically hope that the expected improvement at outside CB plus the improved coverage ability at LB with Alonso in the fold will allow them to use a safety more often in the box and as a blitzer and in that scenario Collins may be a fit. There are also coaches, Bellichick specifically, who does not let a scheme solely dictate the players chosen but instead looks for certain athletic characteristics and then adjusts his defensive schemes to fit the players that he has on hand. In that scenario, Collins could be theoretically chosen simply due to being BPA.

    I don’t think either of those scenarios apply to the Eagles. Kelly is very scheme and parameter driven when it comes to drafting. As a matter of practicality, almost all the safeties the Eagles have shown interest in are coverage safeties that would fit into the mirrored safeties scheme they have used previously.

  122. 122 Patrick said at 6:15 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Yeah I agree, that even from a logical standpoint Collins COULD be the pick, I personally think the scheme change would be the most likely reason.

    Just saying that from ESPs standpoint, its not dumb relentlessly defending drafting Collins, when most fans wants that to happen. He gets popular for being those fans sole white knight, fighting against the negadelphians, which will give him more page views and #demtwittarfollowerz.

    I do however doubt that ESP is “hearing” that the Eagles love Landon Collins and he is just waiting to draftday where everyone will see that he was right, either because we picked him or Chips says they would have loved to get him, but x happened. I really just think ESP aims to please the majority of casual fans, who we know all want Collins. Its smart, but mistaken.

  123. 123 Greg Richards said at 6:22 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    Am I wrong to hold out hope that even the casual fans are smarter than that?

  124. 124 OregonDucker said at 8:42 PM on April 18th, 2015:

    With all do respect, you are.

  125. 125 anon said at 1:37 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    It’s doubly stupid bc co has consistently dropped pro bowlers that weren’t scheme fits. So why would he draft one?

  126. 126 Raul Estrada said at 3:57 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    How’s your feelings about Mich. St.’s S Kurtis Drummond? Projected as a 3rd to 4th rounder, but could be a steal… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMRQRq8QMCw

  127. 127 Guest said at 3:59 PM on April 19th, 2015:


  128. 128 Raul Estrada said at 4:01 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    More Drummond.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOEWKvPxUg

  129. 129 Blue Coaster33 said at 11:51 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Third Flower

    My wife and i have been now delighted that Albert could execute his scientific studies on account of the strategies he had via your web content. It is on occasion perplexing to just often be giving freely actions which a lot of people could have been s…

  130. 130 watch tv show episodes said at 8:41 PM on April 23rd, 2015:

    Souls in the Waves

    Superior Morning, I just stopped in to go to your site and imagined I would say I experienced myself.

  131. 131 stream movies said at 1:17 PM on April 24th, 2015:

    Third Flower

    My spouse and i are actually now delighted that Albert could carry out his scientific studies as a result of the suggestions he had through your website. It is once in a while perplexing to simply constantly be making a gift of techniques which a lot o…

  132. 132 watch movies online free said at 7:17 PM on April 24th, 2015:

    Souls in the Waves

    Excellent Early morning, I just stopped in to visit your site and assumed I’d say I liked myself.

  133. 133 alkaline water said at 2:53 PM on April 25th, 2015:

    The Absent Game

    Involving me and my husband we’ve owned extra MP3 players through the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (traditional & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few several years I’ve settled down to one line of players.

  134. 134 water ionizer said at 2:39 PM on April 26th, 2015:

    Woman of Alien

    Excellent perform you’ve got finished, this page is admittedly amazing with great facts. Time is God’s technique for keeping anything from occurring without delay.

  135. 135 kangen water said at 6:45 PM on April 30th, 2015:

    The Ships’s Voyages

    I believe technological know-how just can make it even worse. Now there is a channel to under no circumstances treatment, now there is not going to be a likelihood for them to find.

  136. 136 kangen water said at 12:45 PM on May 1st, 2015:

    Woman of Alien

    Best function you have completed, this great site is de facto interesting with amazing facts. Time is God’s method of retaining almost everything from happening directly.