Eagles Sign a 4th QB

Posted: April 19th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 406 Comments »

That’s an accurate headline, isn’t it? Or should I have mentioned the QB is Tim Tebow?

I have very mixed feelings.

Tebow as your #3 QB isn’t the worst thing in the world. The guy has won games and even won a playoff game. My biggest issue with him is the circus that follows him. With Chip Kelly in charge and the Eagles having such a big media group, the circus atmosphere is already in Philly. Obviously the presence of Tebow will take that to another level, but this isn’t the same as him going to many other teams.

Tebow’s QB coach swears that his motion is much better. All this time off gave Tebow a chance to really work on his mechanics and let them become second nature. That sounds good, but obviously the proof will be in the pudding (hopefully chocolate pudding of course).

Bleacher Report: You started working with Tim Tebow in 2012. Have you been working with him continuously, or did he recently return to you?

Tom House: Tebow came for two weeks in 2012, and then he went and played [for the Jets]. I didn’t see him that whole season. He came back when he was released by the Patriots [in 2013, at the end of training camp]. He’s been pretty much a regular since he was released by the Patriots.

B/R: How did your relationship with Tebow start?

House: I think, the first time through, it may have been Drew Brees who told him about us. The second time, I know it was Tom Brady who said, “Get out and see what you can do with Tom House and his staff.”

B/R: What were his strengths and weaknesses as a passer before he started working with you?

House: Well, he was strong. He was probably the strongest quarterback that I have ever worked with. But strength is only one piece of the puzzle. There’s efficiency, timing and sequence.

He came to get better with accuracy; he came to get better at spinning the ball. He’s doing that with me.

B/R: Why is spin so important?

House: If the ball doesn’t spin true, there are issues with release point and where the wrist and elbow are. If the spin is there but the front side wobbles up and down, or the tail goes one way or the other, there’s a mechanical flaw somewhere.

B/R: How often are you working with him, and for how many hours per day?

House: We’ve been seeing him about three days every week, year-round. Now, he works besides his time with us, but the time he spends working with us on skills, routes and all of those things works out to about two or two-and-a-half hours per day.

B/R: What is Tebow doing differently now than he was the last time we saw him two years ago?

House: I honestly believe that everybody who was trying to help Tim, everybody who thought they “fixed” him, they probably did temporarily fix him. But Tim didn’t have enough repetition for it to become autonomic. When he got into competition, with the stresses and anxieties that come with the competitive situation, he fell back to his old habits.

The difference now is that he has put in the reps. There have been 10,000-plus reps. If he gets a chance to play again and gets back to competition, it’s hard-wired now. He doesn’t have to think about it.

I’ll keep an open mind when it comes to watching his throwing motion. The guy we saw in the past wasn’t good. We’ll find out if he’s truly improved or if that is just typical offseason bragging by part of a player’s support group.

The biggest takeaway from this to me is that Matt Barkley better start working on his resume. The Eagles didn’t bring in Tebow to compete with GJ Kinne. He’s here to take Barkley’s job. And then there is the matter of the draft. The Eagles could take a QB early or late. Barkley is as good as gone.

Does the addition of Tebow mean anything in regard to the draft? Not necessarily. If Marcus Mariota falls to 20, the Eagles aren’t passing on him due to the presence of Tebow. But this is a weak QB class and adding another veteran to the mix means the Eagles don’t have to force the issue to find competition for Barkley. They can take one if the right guy is available.

Can Tebow play in Kelly’s system? He obviously has the skills to run the ball. The Eagles threw a lot of short passes once Mark Sanchez took over last year. Tebow might be an effective enough passer to keep the chains moving with short throws. Obviously if you get to your #3 QB, you’ve got problems.


406 Comments on “Eagles Sign a 4th QB”

  1. 1 Greg Richards said at 7:19 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    How can there be a circus when Chip speaks to the media maybe twice during the offseason and only gives the media access to the first 10 minutes of training camp?

  2. 2 TommyLawlor said at 7:27 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Tebow draws coverage. They could care less about Chip speaking.

  3. 3 Greg Richards said at 7:29 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Mentally tough teams learn to tune out that nonsense.

  4. 4 Cafone said at 9:04 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    But this is the Eagles. The media circus that surrounds them is already at maximum levels. A few more national guys reporting on Tebow won’t make much of a difference.

  5. 5 Raul Estrada said at 9:40 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Let’s hope it’s more pass coverage to stack up against the run instead of the satan that’s called ESPN.

  6. 6 ian_no_2 said at 5:00 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s all your fault, Greg, for wanting more news cycle entertainment value.on the last thread.

  7. 7 Avery Greene said at 7:20 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I told CK about hanging out with Jerry Jones and drinking tequila. Now look what happened.

  8. 8 Gary said at 7:32 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Schefter says Eagles tried to trade Barkley before signing Tebow.

  9. 9 TommyLawlor said at 7:36 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I think that’s been happening for a while. Just didn’t work out with him.

  10. 10 Gary said at 7:48 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Seems that way. Hard to see Barkley making the roster this year.

  11. 11 Insomniac said at 7:48 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I have more faith in Barkley making the roster than Tebowzz

  12. 12 FalKirk said at 8:28 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Barkley has zero chance of making the roster. If Tebow has any chance at all, it is still a better chance than Barkley’s.

  13. 13 Chris Lindeman said at 7:38 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I like it. I know that sounds crazy. But I do. Watching those broncos games you could just see the immeasurables in him. He willed them to playoffs and to a win. The dude is super positive. And he wins. He will do any and everything to win. He does not accept complacency or laziness from his teammates…I do agree if he sees the field we got bigger problems, but for a guy that’s gonna sit on the bench or be on the practice field he’s gonna give it his all and force accountability. …and Philly media is already a circus full of bad reporting and ridiculous notions. It goes overboard with or without Tebow.

  14. 14 Michael Winter Cho said at 7:45 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Between Tebow and Sanchez, we now have a lot of super positive lack of talent at QB.

  15. 15 Avery Greene said at 7:56 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Sanchez is way better than Tebow. Sanchez did set the Eagles single season completion record. The team fell apart at the end of the year, not just Sanchez.

    Edit: I typed too fast, completion percentage…

  16. 16 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:02 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Both Sanchez and Tebow are known to be positive, cheerful, dudes.

    Sanchez is a pretty good backup QB, that’s it.

  17. 17 Chris Lindeman said at 7:56 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Imagine if the work he did made a differance. He comes in and just lights it up…doubt he will. But just imagine what would happen on here and every other site. Complete. Tebow. Fever. It would be awsome. We have God himself on the team!

  18. 18 Greg Richards said at 7:58 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    They signed Tebow?! The idiots!

    They’re starting Bradford over Tebow?! The idiots!

    Seriously though, if Tebow does well, it’s because he’s worked hard to improve. Any religious connections would be silly.

  19. 19 Cafone said at 9:06 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I disagree. Tebow sucks so bad that if he somehow manages to turn it around I’m going to start going to church.

  20. 20 Julescat said at 9:20 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    another Tebow victory!

  21. 21 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:00 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    It’s kinda like Barkley said, if you can’t shoot by the time you get to the NBA, it’s too late. That being said, I don’t see the harm in bringing on board Tebow. Fun offseason.

  22. 22 Julescat said at 9:23 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    that quote pretty much sums up why Barkley should be ignored. Many NBA players worked to develop their games after getting to the league.

  23. 23 SteveH said at 8:01 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The Broncos defense willed them to the playoffs my friend.

    Everyone saw what he was about when Belicheck and the Pats annihilated him in the playoffs. He was beyond an embarassment in the game, and if the horses defense wasn’t holding people to like 10 points a game they never would have gotten there in the first place.

    I fucking hate the Steelers for playing defense like tards and letting D. Thomas run right by them. The only reason the Steelers lost is because their level of respect was so putridly low for the man they refused to move more than 15-20 yards off the line of scrimmage no matter what.

  24. 24 Avery Greene said at 8:03 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    He had like 150 yards passing in the games they won outside of Pittsburgh.

  25. 25 SteveH said at 9:14 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The “he just wins” narrative was the kind of thing that could possibly send otherwise rational men into a suicidal frenzy, because there’s no way they would want to share a planet with people who genuinely believe that Skip Bayless peyote trip inspired drivel.

  26. 26 Insomniac said at 9:20 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    All you gotta do is watch Tebow wind up for 3-5 seconds before throwing. At least the QB busts knew how to throw properly.

  27. 27 Chris Lindeman said at 8:15 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    True the D was huge. Held them in every game. Till the 4th qtr, when Tebow time would take over….I know many a steelers fan and I’m quite indifferent to Tebow but did I ever laugh when I sat with them. And watched that. Classic moment of disbelief, spilt beer, and grown men crying

  28. 28 370HSSV 0773H said at 7:41 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    What did we do to piss off the football gods? T.O. single-handedly destroys our team, then we sign Vick, then Kelly signs ex-cowboys … and now Tebow.

  29. 29 Avery Greene said at 7:43 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I did a mock without trades and used only players that have visited with the Eagles.

    Your score is: 3796 (GRADE: C+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 20: Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (C)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Kyle Emanuel, OLB, North Dakota State (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Jeremiah Poutasi, OT/OG, Utah (D)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Terry Poole, OT, San Diego State (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Eric Tomlinson, TE, Texas-El Paso (F)

  30. 30 oreofestar said at 7:45 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I don’t know why everyone is getting upset over a 3rd string QB signing media attention be damned

  31. 31 Avery Greene said at 7:45 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    It doesn’t really matter, but it’s fun to make jokes about it.

  32. 32 Insomniac said at 7:47 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    If he somehow makes it through preseason then we have to deal with Tebow’s cult following..

  33. 33 Insomniac said at 7:45 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I’m 10000000000000% sure that Chip signed Tebow so that the future QBs on this team will realize that no matter how much you stink..you can’t be as bad as Tebow. Kinda like Bobby on King of the Hill when he got on the football team. I hope…sigh Tebow though??

  34. 34 GENETiC-FREAK said at 7:49 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Isnt it 5th QB.. Kinne still on the team right..?

  35. 35 Greg Richards said at 7:50 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Tommy hates Kinne. BOOOOOOO!!!

  36. 36 GermanEagle said at 7:50 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Most. Boring. Off. Season. Ever.

  37. 37 SteveH said at 7:59 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Are we sure Chip Kelly isn’t some sort of trickster god?


  38. 38 Dan in Philly said at 8:07 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Tebow is actually a winner. He just can’t pass the ball to be an effective NFL QB. If he could actually fix that…

  39. 39 Cafone said at 8:13 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Chip signs another white guy to celebrate Hitler’s birthday.

  40. 40 Mitchell said at 8:14 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Thank goodness he worked on his mechanics because I pray to god we don’t have to watch him drill balls into the ground over and over and over.

  41. 41 laeagle said at 12:37 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    My wife says that whenever I start a night off by drinking whiskey.

  42. 42 Igglez said at 12:09 AM on April 21st, 2015:

    We had a decade of that with McNabb throwing worm-burners every game

  43. 43 MagsJonesingYesNo said at 8:14 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    ““I like the idea and concept of trying to get a quarterback every year. It’s something that I know (longtime Packers GM) Ron Wolf did, and talking with Ron over the years, it’s something he firmly believes in. A number of us in this league learn from him.”
    Those were the words of Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.”

    Also: http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/273674588/evil_laugh_tile_coaster.jpg?height=460&width=460&padToSquare=true

  44. 44 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:17 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Kelly is taking this “culture” stuff to an extreme.

  45. 45 Ferris Wren said at 8:20 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Imagine you are Lurie and on January 2 you can see into the future:

    Kelly trades McCoy for Alonso, doesn’t cut Ryans, trades Foles and a 2nd for Bradford, turns down a 1st for Bradford, gives Maxwell $25 million guaranteed, gives Murray $18 million guaranteed, gives Graham $14 million guaranteed, signs Miles Austin, hires Marynowitz and Day, then he signs Tebow.

    Would you still give him full control?

  46. 46 P_P_K said at 9:13 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    This is a good question. There must be moments when Lurie is having doubts.

  47. 47 SteveH said at 9:15 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The capper to the wildest offseason ever? When Lurie fires Chip 4 days after they take Armstead in the 1st.

  48. 48 EaglesFan1 said at 10:12 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    You don’t hire an unconventional coach and not let him do his thing.

  49. 49 GEAGLE said at 10:36 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    personally I view this offseason as an UPGRADE.,
    injuries play a big role in how a season plays out.
    if next years injury situation is similar to 2013, this should be the best chip kelly Eagles team we have seen…. If next years injury issues are similar to last year, it will probably be too much to overcome

  50. 50 Kelce's Beard said at 5:05 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    this is just too good. Old SEA reactions in 2010


  51. 51 Dominik said at 9:36 AM on April 21st, 2015:

    Great read, mate!

  52. 52 Iskar36 said at 8:22 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The problem with the circus isn’t just the extra attention. The problem will be that fans are already ready to get on Sam Bradford if he struggles. Now, with struggling will come the circus which include demands for Tebow. Bradford already has a lot to focus on and a ton of pressure. He doesn’t need the added pressure of looking over his shoulder for Tebow. And just to be clear, there is no question Bradford is a much better talent, but when it comes to the Tebow circus, it doesn’t really matter.

  53. 53 Chris Lindeman said at 8:27 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Dunno about Bradford, but somewhere Sanchez just woke up screaming.

  54. 54 kaninfaan said at 10:29 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s a good thing I dont like Sanchez because it allows me to laugh at this.
    Let’s hope Chip trades away them all and drafts a QB i dont already detest.

  55. 55 FalKirk said at 8:46 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I’m really not seeing the problem here.

    First, you can think of Tebow as the fifth QB. He’s here because the Eagles run a ton of reps and need lots of lots of arms throwing lots and lots of footballs during drills.

    Second, you can think of the Eagle’s using Tebow to simulate many of the read option plays now being run in the NFL. Defenses need to get used to handling quarterbacks who can gain yardage with their feet, as well as their arms.

    Third, if Tebow makes the team as the third-string quarterback that means he doesn’t even suit up for games. It’s a complete non-issue unless another quarterback gets hurt.

    Fourth, if Tebow moves up to second string QB (which I think is highly unlikely) then congratulations to him. People say that Chip runs a meritocracy, so let’s be happy for the guy and happy that the Eagles gained — for no trade or draft value and little compensation — a better second string quarterback.

    I’m aware that Tebow brings a media circus with him, but New England handled that with aplomb. It did so much “damage” to their team that they won the Superbowl a year later (and no, I’m not drawing any parallels to the Eagles).

    Chip Kelly does things his own way, media and public pressure be damned. You know, there’s and old saying that if a coach listens to the fans, he’ll soon be sitting with them. I don’t think you’ll be seeing Kelly sitting with the fans — or listening to them either — anytime soon.

  56. 56 Iskar36 said at 8:53 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The thing is, despite what some say, we shouldn’t be comparing the Eagles to the Pats. We are not the same franchise. Chip Kelly doesn’t handle press conferences the same way Belicheck does. We don’t have a starting QB that is an unquestionable talent. We don’t have a playoff win since 2008. Just because the Pats managed to minimize the circus (and to be clear, there was still a significant circus and Tebow didn’t even make the regular season roster), doesn’t mean we can do the same.

  57. 57 Chris Lindeman said at 8:59 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Dunno why we should care. It’s obvious Chip doesn’t.

  58. 58 Iskar36 said at 10:03 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Because this is a blog about the Eagles where the conversation is almost always about the moves the Eagles make/might make/should make/shouldn’t make. If the attitude is “why should we care if Chip doesn’t” then other than “Yay, go Eagles” what conversations would you rather have?

  59. 59 Chris Lindeman said at 11:10 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Referring to the media circus that some seem so scared of. If chip isn’t worried about it. Feels he and the team can handle it then it’s really a non issue isn’t it. Certainly not one to waste post after post of parinoia on

  60. 60 FalKirk said at 9:04 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    “we shouldn’t be comparing the Eagles to the Pats”

    Hmm. I take your point. Your most compelling argument is that the Pats have a superstar quarterback and the Eagles have a question mark at quarterback. But I still see this as a complete non-issue. The fans and the reporters can go nuts if they want to, but it’s going to have zero effect on Kelly and at this very early stage in the season, it’s going to have zero effect on the players.

    If Sam Bradford feels threatened by Tim Tebow, then he should stop rehab and retire immediately because his self-confidence isn’t worth spit.

    If you want, just ignore the portion of my post that talk’s about how the Patriot’s handled Tebow. I still think the rest of my post is applicable.

  61. 61 Iskar36 said at 10:01 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I don’t take issue at all with your other points. Having Tebow as the #3 minus the circus is a great move. Honestly, without the circus, he would still have been in the league. While he has issues as a QB, he has won games, including a playoff game. The circus though is still very real.

    I understand the idea that Sam Bradford shouldn’t feel threatened by Tebow, but while Bradford is the far superior talent, if/when he struggles, not only will he have to work on remaining focused, he will now have the added questions and distractions of Tebow. On top of that, Bradford is already setup to face a ton of distraction and pressure. It’s easy for us to say he should ignore the #3 QB, but the reality is it is very difficult to do if you are regularly reminded about it which is the problem with the Tebow circus.

  62. 62 FalKirk said at 10:10 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    If Bradford can’t handle being asked questions about Tim Tebow then he can’t handle being a pro quarterback in Philadelphia…or anywhere else, for that matter.

  63. 63 Iskar36 said at 10:20 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I guess I just view it a little differently. I think it is just adding to the sum of distractions and pressure on Bradford. Even McNabb disliked the pressure and distraction of Garcia, and McNabb had a significantly better resume obviously.

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 9:32 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    mcnabb was a pussy

  65. 65 Mark F said at 6:54 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Is there a “Tebow circus” these days?

  66. 66 bsuperfi said at 11:21 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I’m really not seeing the problem either. Tebow is a camp body and lottery ticket at the same time. He’s talented and a winner, though not an NFL caliber passer as of his last outing. But if he can succeed anywhere, it’s in Kelly’s offense. Imagine if WRs are even more open with a serious running QB. The odds are low that he will succeed, but I’d love to see him step up hard and take the number two spot. Assuming we don’t get mariota, I really want to know what a running QB looks like in this offense.

    I think the reaL problem is that he’s so grating. I don’t know any fans of his, amd I’m certainly not one (granted, I live in the wrong place). But it’s hard for me to believe that people don’t have any curiosity how tebow would Look in this offense.

  67. 67 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:50 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    “Tebow as your #3 QB isn’t the worst thing in the world.” I can only think of 2 things worse and we are now only 1 or 2 injuries away from those happening.

  68. 68 Cafone said at 9:13 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I’m saving my outrage for when the QB battle is finalized with Sanchez, Tebow and Manziel

  69. 69 Insomniac said at 9:17 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    I just had a terrifying thought. The Cowgirls have better QBs than we do…that’s including Weeden and whoever is behind Weeden.

  70. 70 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:57 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    It’s been that way since about 2008.

  71. 71 Insomniac said at 12:16 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Stop it!!!

  72. 72 Greg Richards said at 6:48 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Romo is better than any QB we have. Any QB we have is better than Weeden.

  73. 73 Cafone said at 9:31 PM on April 19th, 2015:


  74. 74 daveH said at 9:58 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    lets let Tebow’s spider chart decide this !!

  75. 75 Jason A Hines said at 10:03 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Like many of you, I’m trying to figure out what the big deal is. Tebow may not make the roster. If he does, it’s because he’s the 3rd best QB on the team. It’s not like we sit here and heap praise on Barkley. And as Tommy said, if Bradford and Sanchez get injured and Tebow has to start, your season is probably sunk anyway. Then there is actually the possibility that Tebow is better now than he was before. I’m not sure how the Eagles messed up here, unless you believe that Kelly is going to unfairly elevate Tebow.

  76. 76 RC5000 said at 10:24 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    So Bradford’s Dad grew up with Cooper’s Dad and Tebow and Cooper were roommates at Fla.

  77. 77 Insomniac said at 10:26 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Chip is reuniting everyones roommates with some brotherly love.

  78. 78 mtn_green said at 10:29 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    It’s all complete.

  79. 79 Ray888 said at 11:27 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    There was going to be a media circus following the Eagles this off-season already especially around Bradford & the 2 new running backs. With Tebow’s addition, the congestion around these three lockers just thinned out!

  80. 80 Sokhar20 said at 11:37 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Has one team ever had three former 1st round QB busts on their roster at the same time?

  81. 81 Gary Barnes said at 11:52 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    Brian Bosworth was not available?

  82. 82 Pennguino said at 12:07 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s a smart move. The Seahags games showed the team what a no heart QB looks like. Sanchez was scared to challenge the LoB. They saw the quit in his eyes. Tebow is not here to take Sanchez’ job. Culture, developmental, swiss army knife.

    Tebow will get more playing time than Sanchez. Tebow can pay special teams.

    >Personal Protector for the Punter

    >Fake punts with run/pass option

    >He has the size to play TE/RB #4 on each

    >He will take over Brad Smith’s role as the Emergency QB

    Basically he has 4 positions he can play on Gameday. That is worth 1-2 roster spots active for game day.

    If he fails then he was just a camp body. No harm.

    “You don’t get too close to guys like that,” Sanchez said at the time in describing his relationship with Tebow.

    What a loser!

  83. 83 CrackSammich said at 12:11 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    See, the thing is, Tebow was awful at all of those roles you listed. Just fucking awful.

  84. 84 Pennguino said at 12:34 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Scroll to 2:28. I got a chuckle out of that.

  85. 85 CrackSammich said at 12:13 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Ha, I enjoy reading the comments here. Especially when they’re rationalizations of stupid moves. But not as much as I’m going to enjoy people rationalizing this one. This should be a real treat.

  86. 86 laeagle said at 12:35 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Sorry, it’s about roster efficiency. You can get a guy who can double as the ball-washer and chaplain, all in one roster spot. That’s a good rationalization.

  87. 87 ACViking said at 8:51 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Occam’s razor.

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 12:15 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    20: R1P20

    52: R2P20

    84: R3P20

    113: R4P14

    145: R5P9

    156: R5P20

    196: R6P20

    237: R7P20

    I would loveeeeeee this draft.

  89. 89 Avery Greene said at 9:31 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I would too, but I doubt Jones will be there at 52. I don’t think they’ve met with Rollins, so hopefully we might see that in the next couple of weeks.

  90. 90 Mitchell said at 12:32 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Tommy & D3FB, Whatever happened to the scouting reports? I really looked forward to them but haven’t seen one in months.

  91. 91 anon said at 1:14 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    probably too hard for them to make an educated guess about what the eagles will do.

  92. 92 D3FB said at 2:42 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Time and tape constraints.

    For a while there just wasn’t enough tape on alot of guys, for some of them there still isn’t. It’s hard to write a thousand words on a fourth round safety where i’ve got 3 films, and only a dozen plays where I can actually track the full progress of the play. I’ve got a good grasp on most of the players, I just need to rejigger my format for next year to cover more non top 40 guys, with prospect groupings and a blurb on each.

    The other major factor is just time. They take a few hours a pop.

    That being said there is a Stephone Anthony one that Tommy hasn’t gotten up yet.

  93. 93 Mitchell said at 12:34 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Idk about you guys but you can have your Demarious Randall, I’m still super psyched about Clayton Geathers. I think he has better coverage ability and is a much more physical safety. I would hands down take Geathers over Randall everytime. I don’t think he will even last till the 5th like we seen on First-pick.

  94. 94 Anders said at 2:39 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I take Rollins over Randall as safety and if you want a cover safety I like Amos more as well because of his size and ability to cover TEs

  95. 95 Mitchell said at 8:40 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I think Geathers is better than Amos and has more pop that Rollins. Geathers has a good mix of physicality and coverage ability. Amos is pretty meh, from what I’ve seen.

  96. 96 D3FB said at 2:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Huge Geathers fan. Decent range, but absolutely does not lean the wrong way. Which is insane.

    Don’t get the love for Randall at all.

  97. 97 Mitchell said at 8:41 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    You gotta love the pop he brings too. Its nice to see a safety fly in and give a wr some business.

  98. 98 D3FB said at 6:10 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    And it’s good tackling. It’s not Calvin Pryor or DJ Swearinger dumbassery.

  99. 99 Mitchell said at 9:08 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Yeh it is for the most part. I think that is one area he can improve on and be even better. Ryan Riddle or Waldman made a good point: It’s easier to slow a guy down than speed him up.

  100. 100 ACViking said at 6:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    But was it “THE business” . . . like the kind once flagged as a 15-yard penalty by the legendary referee Ben Dreith?

  101. 101 Mitchell said at 9:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    No, they are good clean hits! Which is why he is so exciting, he delivers some excellent pop and with his head up, to boot.

  102. 102 anon said at 1:14 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Remember when that national writer reported that if we can move MB then we might sign timmy t and eskin and the rest of the local media jumped all over her? That was funny.

  103. 103 Greg Richards said at 6:47 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Yep, and now the great Schefter reported that the Eagles WERE trying to trade Barkley before they signed Tebow. Don’t mess with my baby girl!

  104. 104 GEAGLE said at 7:31 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    chip basically just pissed away any chance of getting trade compensation for barkley… might as well cut Barkley today, because no one will give you a pick now that they expect you to cut the guy…
    then again, its probably silly to assume Tebow is a lock to make this roster even over that USC scab, Matt Barkley… the timing of the signing before the start of team activities could mean he was signed as an offseason workout warrior more then a #3 QB..
    either way, Tebow or Matt barkley? who gives a shit…

  105. 105 anon said at 9:52 AM on April 20th, 2015:


  106. 106 anon said at 1:17 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    “Zach Ertz spent two weeks this offseason working with former Cowboys OL coach Hudson Houck on his blocking.
    Houck is one of the greatest offensive line coaches in NFL history. Ertz has also spent time on strength training and mixed martial arts.”

  107. 107 Anders said at 2:39 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    The mixed martial arts is important imo. More NFL players should train things like MMA and Yoga to improve strength and flexability and MMA also learns you to hand fight.

    Some of the best NFL players (including Dawkins) traines MMA under Jay Glazer.

  108. 108 GEAGLE said at 7:27 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    lane johnson is working his mma training with jay Glazier

  109. 109 Anders said at 7:33 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I cant wait to watch Lane this year, guy played like a pro bowler for a long stretch last year. I do think his suspension impacted his condition and thats why his play fell off down the stretch

  110. 110 GEAGLE said at 7:41 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I expect complete domination out of him this year… Dominate the way Cow did last year in year 3

  111. 111 GEAGLE said at 9:30 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    cox, not cow…lol

  112. 112 sa_eagles said at 1:20 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    The largest problem with this move is that I now have to read more articles about Tim Tebow. There is no football benefit that he could possibly add to this team that will offset the pain and anguish I am now forced to suffer. That alone makes this move worth complaining about.

    There are at least 100 quarterbacks out there who could take practice reps, stand on the sideline in sweats, and potentially get sacked for the Eagles and not cause me to read articles about Tim Tebow. In fact, I just recently read about another former first round quarterback with incredible potential, but a strained relationship with the media that is also available to sign. Apparently, Ryan Leaf has been released from prison.

  113. 113 RC5000 said at 1:31 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    awww, I’m sorry you’re forced to read articles you don’t want to read.

  114. 114 sa_eagles said at 1:41 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Your sympathy is appreciated. However, we should feel the saddest for the Eagles media. I’m sure the only thing worse than being forced to read articles about Tim Tebow that you don’t want to read, is having to write articles about Tim Tebow that you don’t want to write. Maybe torturing the Eagles beat reporters is all that Chip is really after anyway.

    We could be reading 1000 words from Tommy about Brodie Croyle’s throwing motion, or the potential of Chip Kelly rejuvenating JaMarcus Russell’s career, or how Pat White is finally going to be given a chance to show what he could do. All of these articles would be a more worthwhile read than retread Tim Tebow.

  115. 115 RC5000 said at 1:50 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    They actually had Pryor and Thad Lewis in for workouts according to Chip so there you have names.

  116. 116 shah8 said at 1:55 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Eh, Thad Lewis doesn’t have enough physical talent.

    Pryor can’t throw. I mean, he certain can throw better than Tebow, but that’s a very low bar. Throw in the sense of naturally being able to drive the ball accurately.

    A JaMarcus Russel with his weight under control is an excellent reclamation project.

  117. 117 Anders said at 2:40 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    The Eagles beat writers are clapping their hands. Tebow guarantees clicks and sold newspapers.

  118. 118 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:00 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Philly press has to be loving this offseason.

  119. 119 Avery Greene said at 11:06 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Philly press as I see them this offseason…


  120. 120 shah8 said at 1:51 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I just saw the headlines.

    I feel like a laughingstock.

    Then again, my love for JOE WEBB is so harmless, now, isn’t it?

    Are we going to have a number of new “Eagles Fans”, now?

  121. 121 Anders said at 2:37 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Tebow is a legit 3rd/4th string QB, Webb isnt even a QB anymore.

  122. 122 GermanEagle said at 7:03 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Lol. Yes Tebow is so legit that he was out of the NFL the last two years.

  123. 123 Anders said at 7:04 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    For me a 3rd/4th string QB is just a TC camp arm, Webb isnt even good enough for that

  124. 124 GermanEagle said at 7:05 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Fair enough. Don’t think you should use legit and Tebow in the same sentence though.

  125. 125 shah8 said at 4:50 AM on April 21st, 2015:

    Actually, Joe Webb is still a QB for the Carolina Panthers, so there!

  126. 126 anon said at 1:59 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    anyone have thoughts on stevie brown ex giants safety. he’s a FA would love to see eagles pick him up.

  127. 127 Anders said at 2:44 AM on April 20th, 2015:


    Seems some guys have Hundley over Mariota as a prospect.

  128. 128 D3FB said at 2:46 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I don’t, But it’s a hell of alot closer than most people think.

  129. 129 Anders said at 2:50 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I also think Mariota is better than Hundley, but I have super respect for Matt Waldman, as he is one of the few guys who is 100% transperant about his process and has zero problems standing steadfast on his own rankings.

  130. 130 RobNE said at 6:58 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Then why give up lots when we can just take Hundley.

  131. 131 Anders said at 7:00 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    It really depends on what Kelly thinks.

  132. 132 RobNE said at 4:47 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    as does everything.

  133. 133 D3FB said at 6:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Thats what I would do.

  134. 134 ICDogg said at 4:55 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Some players are like magnets to the press… no matter what they do it is heavily scrutinized. They have pro- and anti- factions among the fans, and not much of a reasonable middle. There’s a serious risk of a distraction from the media (especially the non-football media who are more interested in the religious angle) and fans who think that Tebow is a great QB and there is an anti-Christian conspiracy of sorts to keep him from playing.

    But the upside includes his strong competitive intensity and demonstrated performance under pressure. And if he really has improved his mechanics as a passer, this could get really interesting.

  135. 135 Anders said at 5:07 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    What I find the most funny is some people still assume he hasnt improved his mechanics at all and therefor is still the Tebow we saw with the Broncos.

    I really doubt Kelly would sign him if he didnt think his throwing motion was at least good enough to warrent a long look during TC and Tebow has all the charactere stuff that Kelly values.

    Most likely if we do not draft a QB is that Tebow will be our 3rd QB barring a horrible show during TC (yes I have zero faith in Barkley).

  136. 136 Bert's Bells said at 7:26 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s fair to be skeptical about a player “improving their mechanics” this late into their career. I think we all agree that Eagles under Andy Reid had some of the best QB coaching in the NFL and yet McNabb never shook his ingrained traits.

  137. 137 Anders said at 7:35 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    That is because Andy never coached him to get rid of them or at least coached him hard enough.

    Also as was mentioned, its harder to improve your mechanics in only 1 off season because any stress will return a guy to his old habbits unless he gets enough reps.

  138. 138 anon said at 9:50 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    tebow only played like a year and a half

  139. 139 Bert's Bells said at 10:24 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    A 27 year old back up with less than two years experience throwing a football?

  140. 140 Iskar36 said at 7:33 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I think the fact that he has been out of football without anyone signing him suggests his mechanics haven’t drastically improved. Plus the fact that even after watching him when they brought him in for a workout, we didn’t sign him for a month, also suggests that Chip wasn’t so impressed with his “new found mechanics” that he was concerned about losing Tebow to another team. On top of all that, how many players have you seen not be in the league and then come back significantly better than they were? At the end of the day, Tebow is a late April signing. I think it is very reasonable to have low expectation on his “improved mechanics.”

  141. 141 Anders said at 7:36 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    and yet he is impressed enough with his mechanics that he has signed him anyway.

  142. 142 GEAGLE said at 7:49 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    right now signing Tebow is no different then GJ Kinney… Long way to go before we can assume Tebow will make the roster

  143. 143 Anders said at 8:12 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    and Im not saying any different. Im just hammering people who think Tebow hasnt improved at all, yet think tons of other prospect in the upcoming draft can improve.

  144. 144 Alex Karklins said at 8:59 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Even if his mechanics have improved, the bigger issue with his game was going through his progressions. Unfortunately, we probably won’t see if he has improved in that area until the preseason.

  145. 145 Anders said at 9:17 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    100% true, but Kelly improved Sanchez, so why shouldnt he be able to help Tebow with some easy reads?

  146. 146 Blue Coaster33 said at 5:25 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Souls in the Waves

    Great Early morning, I just stopped in to visit your internet site and thought I’d say I liked myself.

  147. 147 Greg Richards said at 6:50 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    In non-Tebow news, the Eagles are having WR Phillip Dorsett in for a private visit per the National Football Post.

  148. 148 Anders said at 7:38 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I wouldnt mind Dorsett, but I much rather have Conley.

  149. 149 Mitchell said at 9:07 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Yeh, I say get those little wrs outta here and bring in the big dogs.

  150. 150 GEAGLE said at 9:29 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    cheers to that!… I like Dorsett as a deep threat, but Id rather have a deep threat with some size like Devin Smith

  151. 151 Mitchell said at 9:57 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Smith has the best deep ball catch rate coming out of college by far and I can’t even think of someone that’s close. He could be drafted first round because of his deep ball ability alone because even if he doesn’t turn into a number one, he will always have the deep ball potential.

  152. 152 GEAGLE said at 10:10 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    agreed the kid can be a real nice weapon, and should go in round 1, but this is such a deep WR class that he could easily last til round 2…
    i cant even think about the WR prospects anymore. So many WR prospects I like, and I will drive myself crazy trying to figure out the order in which the WR’s prospects get drafted,,, Heck, I cant even make up my mind on who the first WR off the board will be, let alone try and figure out how many WRs will be drafted ahead of Devin Smith
    wouldnt care much about a deep threat if Sanchez was our QB… But Sam has a talented Arm, and with the way I expect us to pound the rock in the run game next year, play action Deep to Devin Smith could be a really nice weapon for us next year, when Defenses get sucked in by the run fake, or are worried about Ertz and Sproles in the passing game, Badford could uncork some BOMBS to Devin….

  153. 153 Mitchell said at 10:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Maybe the Ravens take Smith to make up for the lack of Torrey Smith.

  154. 154 GEAGLE said at 7:21 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    meh… Sam Bradford will only be a limited participant in OTA’s, coincidence that we signed a workout warrior right before team activities start? .. we need QB bodies..
    truth is, I could see value in keeping Tebow, depending on what he is willing to do for this team. We lost Brad smith and James Casey, two top ST players who were our emergency QB’s that allowed us to only dress two QB’s on game day…
    I can see value in keeping Tebow if Chip will use him as a ST beast/QB 3
    If Tebow is willing to play ST, he can combine the emergency QB position, with key ST contributor position..
    if Tebow isnt willing to play ST, then I dont see why we would keep him. but if he is willing to add to our ST, maybe even try his hand at TE…. signing him could be like combining Barkley with a ST beast like Brad smith..
    wouldnt be surprised to see chip create this new hybrid position QB #3/ST Beast/ TE…. and I could see value in that knowing chip is a stickler for versatility and maximizing roster spots..
    If Tebow is too selfish to play ST or TE, we shouldnt keep him

  155. 155 James Skip Carl said at 8:06 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I think he could be a good pass rusher or safety, his 3 cone is better than most corners

  156. 156 GEAGLE said at 7:24 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    while I dont look forward to the media circus that comes with Tebow, I think its completely absurd to allow the actions of hack media to influence how we build our roster…media wants to create a circus, shut the media out…
    damn sure dont want to see our media influence roster decisions. those hacks do enough…
    with that said, Tim Tebow? Yuck…. Mariota, Tebow, Sanchez, Bradford sounds more like a boyscout group then our QB’s

  157. 157 Patrick said at 7:35 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Tim Tebow – For that special situation where you need to trick your fanbase into thinking that Sam Bradford is actually any good, but Mark Sanchez and Matt Barkley just won’t do the job.

    With what we’re paying Bradford and Sanchez, we probably didn’t sign Tebow cheap either, but the others can at least throw the damn ball.

    If I had been looking in from the outside, i’d actually be incredibly interested in how much Tebow had improved mechanics wise. I dont think I have ever seen a QB improve his throwing motion anywhere near as much as Tebow needs to have done, if he has any real business being an NFL QB.

  158. 158 GEAGLE said at 7:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    If Bradford stays healthy, I think he will be great with chip…potentially the steal of the offseason…. I would hate to sigń Bradford if we still had andy Reid, or if we were a team that runs a traditional pro style offense…. But put Brdford back in his college shotgun attack, color me excited

  159. 159 Anders said at 7:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Tommy, would you rather trade up for from the 2nd to grab TJ Clemmings if he falls out of the 1st (this assumes Byron Jones or somebody else is our 1st round pick with no trade back) or take Ali Marpet with our own 2nd round pick?

  160. 160 RobNE said at 8:01 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    What cost to trade up?

  161. 161 Anders said at 8:11 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Last year we traded a 4th to move up 12 spots, so around the same (add a 7th or 6th if you need a few more spots)

  162. 162 Mitchell said at 9:06 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I know you didn’t ask me but I would trade up for Clemmings. We know the success rate of 4th rounders isn’t great so if that’s what it takes to get both, do it. I guess the best case is doing what we did last year, trade down, still get our guy and use the newly acquired picks to trade back up.

  163. 163 Anders said at 9:18 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    That would also be my ideal scenario.

  164. 164 GEAGLE said at 9:27 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    my ideal scenario is to trade back from #20, get an extra 3rd round pick, but instead of trading that 3rd round pick to move up in round 2, Id rather add another 3rd round talent, and find a quality player to draft with our normal 2nd rd pick… shouldnt NEED to trade up in the 25-50 range when talking about so many similarly graded prospects…

    looking back on next years draft, i love getting the Pope… but he was hardly the only Quality WR after round 1… i would have rather gambled on Pope falling to us in round 2, instead of pissing away our 3rd round pick trading up. Miss out on Pope, it shouldnt have been hard to find another quality WR to draft last year

  165. 165 GEAGLE said at 7:51 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    My thinking is pretty simple when it comes to this… If Tebow is willing to play any role we ask of him, like being a key ST contributor, possibly even dabbling at TE, I have NO PROBLEM at all having him as our 3rd QB..
    If Tebow is ONLY willing to take the field as a QB, then I hope to never see him in an eagle uniform
    if he is willing to be a ST contributor/emergency QB… Id gladly keep him, assuming he can be a key ST contributor. NO ST play, NO QB play as far as im concerned

  166. 166 eagleyankfan said at 8:39 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Not sure why one 3rd string qb would have different rules over another 3rd stringer…. If Barkley was displaying any type of encouraging signs of being a capable qb… Tebow would have never been called in… I wonder if Barkley should call the guy that Tebow is seeing to help him?

  167. 167 GEAGLE said at 9:20 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    because Tebow isnt good enough to just be a 3rd string NFL QB, and because, why the hell should an eagle not be willing to do anything to help this team? If Garbage QB Barkley could play Special teams, Id be wanting to get ST play out of him too…
    we lost our emergency gameday QB which allowed us to only dress two QBs on game day.. Tebow IMO isnt good enough to be a pure QB on any NFL roster even as a #3, BUT, If he is willing to be Brad Smith, who made some plays for us on Special Teams while being the #3 QB on gameday, Tebow becomes much more attractive to me…
    simply swapping Barkley for Tebow as a #3 is a Joke…. Id rather cut both and take a flier on an Undrafted rookie QB

  168. 168 eagleyankfan said at 10:03 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Well that’s the thing.. Barkley isn’t.. Why does Tebow have to? If Tebow makes roster … There’s no gain over what Barkley was doing. I don’t see the value of either one.. I’m with you.. Would rather see a rookie in there…I guess we don’t know if Tebow is a changed man? I hope he’s not here to do special trick plays….

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 10:05 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    well, the assumption is that we are trying to get rid of Barkley, so why shouldnt I expect Tebow to bring more to the table then Barkley, if Barkley isnt good enough to continue to develop?

  170. 170 eagleyankfan said at 10:10 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Maybe CK had this.. “I can fix anybody” superior attitude… Who knows… Not sure the climb is worth the view with Tebow…

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 11:02 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    why isnt he “fixing” Barkley?

  172. 172 GEAGLE said at 7:59 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    fyi: Eagles Sam Bradford jerseys have reached stores…. so much for that false theory that jersey production would tip off the eagle true QB intentions lol

  173. 173 Avery Greene said at 9:28 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    #7. Jaworski and Vick wore that number, can Bradford be the one to take us to the promised land?

  174. 174 GEAGLE said at 9:39 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    i would feel so much better if a QB getting over injuries would choose a different number from Vick, the most fragile QB in franchise history..
    but if we keep Bradford on the field, I will be THRILLED with him as our QB. Im as big of a foles fan as there is, I cant see too many young QB’s that we could have realistically gotten that I would be ok trading Foles for…. I would rather trade Foles for Bradford instead of Cam Newton, Kapernick, RG3, ..
    if we can keep Sam healthy, I think this can be the steal of the offseason and make a lot of people look really foolish

  175. 175 Avery Greene said at 9:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Well Vick was injury prone enough for a couple QBs. So maybe we should look at it as the number is now protected for the next user.

    Or we can be pessimists and say the number attracts injury and we’re doomed.

    I choose to believe the former, well just because I’m having a good month so far…

  176. 176 GEAGLE said at 10:02 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Im with you….. I think its moronic to b happy about adding a young ILB with Knee injuries, wanting not to lose WR Maclin with his knee injuries…. yet be doom and gloom about a QB with the same knee issues..
    Give me a Wr and ILB and a pocket passer with Knee problems, which would you bet on not getting hurt again if your life depended on it? Its not even close, I would take the pocket passer EVERY SINGLE time.. Much more worried about a WR or LB re-injuring a knee, then a pocket passer who’s knee needs to be strong enough to take a 3, 5 or 7 step drop, maybe roll out every one in a while, and possibly take off and run for 10 yards if a side of the field is wide open…. If a pocket QB cant come back from a knee injury, who can?

    I would so much rather see bradford play 16 games for us then Marriota. I think Sam can be amazing in this offense. Chip is going to put him in similar offense as the one he played in college where he became the second best QB prospect of the past 5 years, behind only Andrew Luck

  177. 177 ACViking said at 2:54 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    why not 11?

  178. 178 Avery Greene said at 3:01 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I was only remarking on the one he’s going to wear (I looked it up online) and made a reference to that.

    NVB brought us a title in 1960 and if I recall correctly the only one to beat Lombardi in a championship. So he beat the guy we named the Superbowl trophy after.

    If I knew for sure that Bradford could do it, I’d tell Huff to get a new jersey.

  179. 179 ACViking said at 6:05 PM on April 20th, 2015:


    Huff’s switched to No. 13.

    No. 11’s open (I believe)

  180. 180 Avery Greene said at 7:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Hmmm, I didn’t know that and you have a larger point here. Should we start a Bradford wear #11 campaign?


  181. 181 EagleNebula said at 10:06 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Which is a kind of a shame because nothing is more entertaining than watching the absurdity of a conspiracy theory take shape.

  182. 182 tomw said at 9:09 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Three first rounder QB’s on the team ,and not a soul is truely happy.

  183. 183 GEAGLE said at 10:52 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    very happy to have Bradford, and sanchez is probably the best backup QB in the league, and I would never let a #3 QB infringe on my happiness

  184. 184 P_P_K said at 10:52 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I hadn’t thought of the 3 first-rounders situation. Likely the first time this has happened in the NFL.

  185. 185 Alistair Middlemiss said at 9:24 AM on April 20th, 2015:


    This is all a plan to get No.2, No.3 and No.6 in this years draft.

    Eagles are going to trade Bradford straight up for No.2 with Tenn
    Eagles are going to trade Tebow to the Jags for No.3 – need to sell tickets for once.
    Eagles are going to trade Sanchize back to the Jets for No.6 – they made a mistake when they kicked him out of town and they want him back!

    Eagles draft Maaarrrrioooottttttttttaaa, Williams and Cooper it is all part of Chippers master plan.

    1 have heard all this from top sources who regularly phone WIP and everything.

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 9:43 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    yesterday I heard radio hosts campaigning to trade 3 first round picks, two 2nd round picks, Fletcher Cox and Vinny Curry for Marriota… this has to END!!!!! its getting Crazy,, how the hell can ANYONE be OK with paying a price like that for ANYONE? I dont know that I would pay THAT for Andrew friggin Luck
    radio will reach unbearable new heights today wit Tebow in town

  187. 187 sonofdman said at 11:17 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Well now we have Bradford, Sanchez, and Tebow who are all “first round picks” , so I would consider trading those three “first round picks” to get Mariota. Hell, we probably don’t own his rights anymore, but I would also throw in the rights to Danny Watkins so that we are giving four “first round picks” to get Mariota.

  188. 188 P_P_K said at 10:51 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Great post. Thanks to your all-knowing sources, too.

  189. 189 Avery Greene said at 9:47 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Phillip Dorsett visiting the Eagles today.


  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 9:49 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I could do without adding “the 30yr old virgin” as a QB of the Eagles…

    with that saidm im enjoying twitter, seeing Media members who are ripping fans for being ok with Tebow. calling fans dopes saying its not about not wanting Tebow the player, its about Not wanting the circus that comes with Tebow…. as if the MEDIA isnt the one that creates the circus LOL.. how many fans actually give two craps about Tebow in Philly? 5 fans? 10 fans? lol.. yet the Hack Media will cover it like we just added Tom Brady, as if any fan really gives a shit about all the questions the media will waste its access asking about Tim friggin Tebow.
    tebow is phily hack media’s wet dream… ultimate “click bait”

  191. 191 Avery Greene said at 9:50 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Well at least it changes the conversation from MM to Tebow for a short time.

  192. 192 GermanEagle said at 10:20 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Chip is genius.

  193. 193 GEAGLE said at 9:54 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Nothing would make me laugh harder then seeing the Rams trade Nick foles in a package to get Marriota, and seeing Wisenhunt at the press conference saying Nick Foles was the QB we wanted all along….. if there is a god, this will happen. It would be the funniest thing immaginable;…
    the “genius” Phil Sherridan was ripping the eagles saying that it was a mistake to trade shady for Kiko because shady could have been trade bait to get Marriota… Obviously Sherridan doesnt THINK much, because if we were to hold onto shady tile the draft, with the intention of trading him, we probably would never be able to get demaco Murray or Ryan Mathews to sign in Philly.. and if you could sign them, everyone would know you were going to trade shady which means we would get lowballed anyway…I also doubt that a 12mil a year RB who just got a new contract is as valuable of a trade chip as simpleton sherridan thinks..

  194. 194 GermanEagle said at 10:11 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    The odds of Tebow making the final Eagles roster and Evan Mathis not are not as bad as you might think…

  195. 195 Avery Greene said at 10:55 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I was bored so did a couple other mocks. I think I’m coming around more to the idea of Jones in the 1st. I’ve been sold on this dude and I think he and Maxwell could be the shutdown corners we’re looking for. I like both Conley and Amos in the 3rd and I don’t think both will be there in the 4th. I didn’t do any trades because I felt they were unrealistic. Teams aren’t giving up a 2nd to move up two spots in the 1st. In both drafts Algohor was off the board so I decided Marpet was the best value on the board (Fisher and the other OTs were gone).

    I think Poutasi has good size and as a 5th rounder IMO is good value. Same with Emanuel and I think out of this list I hit Rds 3-5 better than any other round. All my picks are based on the list from the 24/7 blog of the prospects the Eagles have shown interest in.

    Your score is: 3496 (GRADE: C+)
    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 20: Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (C)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Jeremiah Poutasi, OT/OG, Utah (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Kyle Emanuel, OLB, North Dakota State (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Travis Raciti, DT, San Jose State (F)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Eric Tomlinson, TE, Texas-El Paso (F)

    Your score is: 3902 (GRADE: C+)
    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 20: Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (C)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Jeremiah Poutasi, OT/OG, Utah (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Kyle Emanuel, OLB, North Dakota State (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Obum Gwacham, DE, Oregon State (D)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Terry Poole, OT, San Diego State (C-)

  196. 196 GEAGLE said at 10:58 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    i like Jones just to hear this ignorant media/fanbase cry and bitch about drafting a kid that will probably not play much as a rookie again….

  197. 197 Avery Greene said at 11:04 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    That would be classic. Though even though I like the kid, they may not feel the need to draft a CB so high. However this draft comes out, I’d like the hauls from Rd. 3-5 in the mocks. Good value and I think all these guys have an opportunity to play either now or in the future. Poutasi could play OG and they start to train Mathis’s replacement, or he plays better than Marpet to start and he comes in next year (if the draft played out like that).

  198. 198 ACViking said at 11:09 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Re: Three 1st Rd Picks at QB — a rare bird, indeed

    In the past 55 years, since the AFL’s inaugural season, only 4 teams have carried 3 QBs who were all 1st Rd picks. The Eagles could be number five.

    1964-65 LA Rams:

    The Rams drafted a QB three straight years with their 1st Rd pick:

    – future Eagles Roman Gabriel from NCState in ’62,

    – Heisman winner Terry Baker from Oregon State — a left hander who couldn’t throw worth his life — in ’63

    – Bill Munson from Utah State in ’64

    Finally, in 1966 new Rams HC George Allen cut Terry Baker, who spent a year in Canada and then retired from football to become a lawyer.

    1980 Oakland Raiders . . . and another Heisman winner:

    – Prior to the ’79 season, Al Davis signed a battered former Heisman winner and 1st overall choice in 1971, QB Jim Plunkett, who didn’t throw a pass all season.

    – In the 1980 draft, Al Davis selected BYU QB Marc Wilson in Rd 1.

    – Prior to the 1980 season, Al Davis traded QB Ken Stabler to Houston for another of the class of ’71 1st Rd QBs, Dante Pastorini.

    Pastorini opened the season as the Raiders’ starter, going 2-2 in his first four starts before getting hurt in the second quarter of another loss in game 5.

    Plunkett took over for Pastorini and the 2-3 Raiders . . . .

    Well, they ruined my year. Let’s put it that way.

    1995 Miami Dolphins:

    – In Don Shula’s last season as a head coach, his QBs were:

    . . . Marino,

    . . . Bernie Kosar — a 1st Rd supplemental pick by Cleveland in ’84

    . . . Dan McGuire, a former 1st Rd pick of Seattle

    2011 Oakland Raiders

    – Al Davis collected the following three 1st Rd QBs for that season’s roster:

    . . . Carson Palmer

    . . . Jason Campbell

    . . . Kyle Boller

    No 1980-like magic for the Raiders, however.

    Now, let’s see if Kelly goes for the trifecta.

  199. 199 bill said at 11:17 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Ken “the Snake” Stabler. I was a kid, and a huge Eagles fan, but the Snake was my favorite player. My memory is foggy, but it probably was entirely due to his nickname.

  200. 200 ACViking said at 11:21 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Stabler remains, in my humble opinion, the best 2-minute QB in NFL history.

    He had great talent around him.

    But no one was better at going 80 yards in under a minute with no timeouts. No one.

  201. 201 bill said at 11:27 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Again, my memory is foggy, at best, but didn’t he have some great late game heroics throwing to “the Ghost” in the endzone?

  202. 202 ACViking said at 11:36 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    1977 double OT playoff game against the Colts.

    Among the top 3 playoff games in NFL history.

    Late in Q-4, Stabler hits TE Dave Casper on a long “Ghost to the Post” pattern to set up the game-tying FG in regulation.

    The O-line’s protection of Stabler on that play — and through much of the game — was excellent.

    In fact, on the game winning TD pass from Stabler to TE Dave “Ghost” Casper, Stabler had what seems like 7 seconds to scan the field.

    Looking . . . looking . . . looking . . . looking . . . TD.

    No one from the Colts was anywhere near Stabler.

  203. 203 Bert's Bells said at 11:18 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Fuck Jim Plunkett

  204. 204 ICDogg said at 11:22 AM on April 20th, 2015:


    Pretty good article about Tebow’s fit with Kelly’s offense.

  205. 205 ACViking said at 11:26 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Tebow would be awesome in Kelly’s offense if he threw like Bradford.

    But then he wouldn’t be a street free agent who couldn’t find a job for two years.

  206. 206 ICDogg said at 11:54 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Even if he’s corrected his mechanics to the point where he throws at an NFL level, I have to wonder how he fits in a high tempo offense at all when one of his biggest strengths has been that he’s such a leader in the huddle.

  207. 207 GEAGLE said at 12:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    someone bothered to write an article about how Tebow fits in chips offense? lol

  208. 208 CrackSammich said at 11:28 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’m really very confused and concerned how okay people are with Tebow being on the team.

  209. 209 bill said at 11:31 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’ll be concerned if he is actually the #3 heading into game 1. For now, I disagree with TL: I think Tebow’s here to take Kinne’s spot, not Barkley’s. I know Barkley’s on his way out, but someone else (even an UDFA) will take Barkley’s spot, IMO.

  210. 210 FairOaks said at 11:35 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Only way I’m really OK with it is if he is here to take Brad Smith’s spot. Or Kinne’s.

  211. 211 CrackSammich said at 11:38 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    People keep bringing up Brad Smith… Tebow is not a receiver. He’s not a TE. That fact that he could be if he tried doesn’t make him one. I just keep picturing that play where Sanchez nailed him dead center in the forehead when they used him as one in NYJ. The dude is just a bad QB.

  212. 212 FairOaks said at 11:40 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Yeah, I know. But that roster spot is probably where he’d do the least harm. Unless Bradford and Sanchez both stay healthy for 16 games.

  213. 213 EagleNebula said at 1:05 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Technically, they only collectively need to stay heathy for 16 games between them. And as for doing the least harm, compared to Barkley…at least Tebow can run.

  214. 214 FairOaks said at 1:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    If Tebow is even the #2, he is taking up an active roster spot, and you are petrified of getting your QB hurt (so may not be as liberal in the play calling), and he will get a lot of practice reps I’d rather use on a young QB who at least might have a hope. Maybe his mechanics are “fixed” but he’s never shown the ability to make quick decisions and so I can’t fathom how he fits Kelly’s scheme. There is obviously some reason to bring him in. I’m just hoping it’s just so he gets some preseason tape which could interest other teams (i.e. camp body) as another huge favor to his agent, and not as someone who Kelly wants to keep at QB.

  215. 215 EagleNebula said at 2:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    1. If their is a QB to draft, he will be drafted and Tebow would have to beat him out along with Barkley

    2. Regardless, 2 QBs will be active game day, so there isn’t any extra active roster spot being taken if he beats out Barkley

    3. Game planning with your #3 as back up would be the same regardless- the #3 is third on the roster for a reason, you won’t have your best or second best QB squirled away as #3. As far as in game damage, I trust tebow over Barkley but would prefer a rookie to develope if a worthy prospect is available.

  216. 216 FairOaks said at 3:10 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I am hoping we draft a QB now, yes. If Tebow stays the #3 QB all year long, then he won’t do much damage. But that implies that Bradford and Sanchez both stay healthy all year long. If one is injured, then Tebow becomes #2 and the situation changes a lot — he will take an active roster spot, and is one play away from actually playing. From what I remember of Tebow, I would prefer Barkley. Tebow had some of the end-of-game magic touch but that required a stout defense to keep the game close while he played three quarters of cover-your-eyes terrible football. Maybe his new release has changed things but I’d be stunned if he’s gained good quick decision making.

  217. 217 anon said at 3:17 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    We were fine with Matty B being that guy Tebow might not be any worse.

  218. 218 FairOaks said at 3:26 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    If Tebow has improved substantially, he might not be worse than Barkley. But there’s a good chance he could be much much worse (i.e., the same player he used to be). His success was based on a tough defense keeping games close while he couldn’t score for three quarters. I don’t think he’s going to get that luxury here especially if he goes 3 and out a lot. My main hope is that we bring in decent competition (i.e. a draft pick) and make Tebow actually earn a spot.

  219. 219 EagleNebula said at 4:00 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Barkley played in 4 games and has 4 INTs (played in not started). Tebow started 16 and has 9 Ints… Seriously what has Barkley done that makes you think he is a better option than Anyone?

  220. 220 FairOaks said at 4:11 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    4 games is such a small sample size you really can’t judge on that. He looked reasonably competent other than the turnovers, but he was often brought into games where the Eagles were behind and he had to take risks. Basically all his stats were from his rookie year as well, when I think he had the injured shoulder. We didn’t really see him on the field at all last year. I doubt he ever progresses beyond a backup, but at least he managed a 60% completion rate as a rookie. Tebow wasn’t even 50% as a most-time starter, which is a laughable rate these days. Barkley may be terrible, but he is still better than Tebow was. If Tebow has markedly improved, then it could be a battle. I would certainly like a better option than Barkley, but I don’t think Tebow is one.

  221. 221 EagleNebula said at 4:20 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I have yet to hear that Barkley’s arm is anything but weak. Both throw ducks and a system requiring short throws may hide Tebows deficiency. You are right that you can’t project anything based on less than a single full game of play, but reports of Barkley from practice were never flattering nor were the preseason appearances. But just as you can’t assume he will continue to throw INTS, you can’t assume he will be markedly improved. Plus, his overly defensive attitude annoys me (yes that is childish).

    I am in no way calling Tebow good or saying I want to see him on the field as anything but a reporter, but I do not trust Barkley at all. Regardless, I doubt either will be on the team come September.

  222. 222 FairOaks said at 8:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Barkley’s arm was definitely better this past year in the preseason. Still not great. I am not assuming Barkley has markedly improved — I just think that Tebow would have to markedly improve to get to Barkley’s previous level. I don’t think you can assume that either. Tebow’s lack of decision making and accuracy woes were excruciating to watch most of the time — you’re thinking most 3rd stringers were better than him for long long stretches. In 11 starts in 2011 he only even broke 200 yards passing twice — 202 and 237. He was shockingly awful to my memory. He had a nice 7-1 streak once he became the starter that year — but the Broncos scored 18, 10, 38, 17, 17, 16, 35, and 13 points in those games, somehow winning seven of them (the 10 points was the loss). He was 10-21 for 124 yards in the 38 point game (vs Raiders), and 10-15 for 202 in the 35 point game (vs Minn). Worse in most of the others. McGahee had some long TD runs and there were some defense/special teams TDs those two games too. They then lost the last three games of the season (scoring 23, 14, and 3 points) to finish 8-8 and limp into the playoffs. The Eagles do not have the defense the Broncos did that year, and I really can’t see Tebow in a fast-tempo offense. It’s not that I think Barkley is all that great — it’s more that Tebow was spectacularly awful, outside of not throwing too many picks (helped by not throwing very many passes period). It had been a long time since I remember a starting QB that looked so bad… brought to mind the 1991 Eagles after both Cunningham and McMahon went down (Jeff Kemp, Brad Goebel, Pat Ryan…). We’ll see what Kelly has in mind… but I don’t remotely see it right now.

  223. 223 EagleNebula said at 8:39 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Better but still sub-par as far as arm strength goes. I remember either Jimmy or Tommy talking about Barkley having to force standard throws. I have the same memory as you do of Tebow, I guess we disagree on Barkley. I honestly do not see much of a gap in terms of decision making/performance in game situations, but with Tebow you can limit his throws and stick to the ground pounding Murray, Matthews, Sproles and Tebow. I am not sure you can Barkley’s throws to the same extent. Bottom line is: I want no part of either of these guys throwing much, and with Tebow I feel like their are more alternatives…

    This argument will be moot when Chip packages cooper and Tebow to move up to 1 and pick Winston (did I do that right?)

  224. 224 EagleNebula said at 3:42 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    2 QBs on the active roster, back up spot will be used by a QB regardless of if it is Tebow, Sanchez or a rookie. How is that taking an active roster spot? It isn’t like there will be one less non-QB spot taken. And yes he would be 1 play away from getting in but no 3rd string QB is “good”, that is why they are 3rd string.

    And, Uh, have you watched Barkley? He was a turnover machine by Vick standards. I will take the guy who they can make a purely run game centric and lower the risk of blowing a game.

  225. 225 Ark87 said at 11:38 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    I think it’s general acceptance of this off season and hoping to get the last laugh.

    Lets face it, this off season has been 1 punch line after another, if it was the Redskins or Cowboys we’d be having a field day. Not sure what it’s like in Philly, but I’m one of the few Philly fans in the area I live and I get to hear it. All I can do is shrug and hope Chip is smarter than everyone everywhere and we can all get the last laugh when that parade finally goes down broad street…I can’t wait till practices start up, when Chip Kelly is a coach and no one can doubt he knows what he’s doing there. That time of year should be a bit more fun.

  226. 226 NinjaP said at 12:14 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    He;s here to compete for the third quarterback spot. If we draft a QB he doesn’t make the team. So why should we be concerned?

  227. 227 botto said at 12:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    who cares? its april, if makes the team its only because he deserved it, but we have no idea yet

  228. 228 b3nz0z said at 1:28 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    because i think the only negative consequence of the signing is having to hear jokes from the media.

  229. 229 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:57 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Hey, Andy got his Mormons, why can’t Chip have his born-agains?

  230. 230 76mustang said at 2:37 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    What’s the downside? Staff gets to work with Tebow for 10 days leading up to the draft, go through the draft, then determine QB position heading to TC. Chip does a pretty good job of insulating the players and staff from the media, so what’s the concern, afraid of name-calling from rival fan bases and idiot media mouthpieces?

  231. 231 CrackSammich said at 2:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    The downside is Tebow. Media circus.

  232. 232 GermanEagle said at 11:39 AM on April 20th, 2015:

    Gotta thank Michael Vick. Playing roulette in Atlantic City and the lucky number 7 got me 175 bucks in return. #alwaysEagles

  233. 233 botto said at 12:04 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    yeah that’s actually ron jaworski’s number

  234. 234 Greg Richards said at 12:17 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Thank Sam Bradford!

  235. 235 ICDogg said at 12:04 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  236. 236 Avery Greene said at 12:11 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Evan Mathis won't be attending start of #Eagles voluntary spring workouts, per source. He did last year amid trade rumors. Staying away now.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) April 20, 2015

  237. 237 Greg Richards said at 12:17 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  238. 238 wee2424 said at 1:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I was mildly surprised when he did last year. This had to be expected.

  239. 239 D3FB said at 1:29 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Veteran player. Owns his own gym/sports complex. Not worried.

  240. 240 Avery Greene said at 1:52 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    This is the type of information that’s useful. Not a big fan of McLane, as I think he has a lot of hot takes – but it seems this is to stir up trouble/controversy.

    I also just saw Mathis bench like 400+ lbs in an instagram video.

  241. 241 D3FB said at 5:53 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Here’s the gym:http://zoneathleticperformance.com/

    Here’s the video of him using it in the offseason where he turned his career around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezaAMcCy3u4

  242. 242 Avery Greene said at 7:22 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I so need some new friends down here. I’d love to spend 2-3 hrs in the gym 5-6 times a week from mid-May until Sept when I start classes again. I’m signed up for a mudder in Aug and have been training by myself the whole time.

  243. 243 Avery Greene said at 12:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Dolphins Mike Tannenbaum chose Josh Freeman over Matt Barkley. That was the delay in the Tebow signing. #eagles— Dianna Marie Russini (@NBCdianna) April 20, 2015

  244. 244 Donald Kalinowski said at 12:27 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Remember that time they chose Dante Culpepper over Drew Brees?!?!?

  245. 245 GEAGLE said at 12:33 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    remember fleecing them out of a 2nd round pick for AJ Feely?

  246. 246 anon said at 1:16 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    haha clearly the wrong answer, what a terrible GM.

  247. 247 RobNE said at 2:22 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    did Eskin et al apologize to this woman yet.

  248. 248 Avery Greene said at 2:24 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Does he apologize to anyone?

  249. 249 anon said at 2:33 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    yeah i mentioned this last night, have even less respect for those guys now.

  250. 250 RobNE said at 4:45 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    it’s like Eskin’s complaint was really that she had used poor terminology, saying something like “it’s 80% certain” rather than “it’s likely” and so Eskin and everyone had to make fun of her for that. Which is stupid. Like we are the insider’s club and you are not.

  251. 251 GEAGLE said at 12:32 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    i have been talking about this signing since last night, but just now it really hit. friggin Tim Tebow is a Philadelphia Eagle. Tim Tebow is a friggin Philadelphia Eagles. WOW… all I can do is Laugh… its a living nightmare but its so harmless and absurd that you have to just laugh about it… Kind of embaressed to be an Eagle fan today.. Tebow is completely irrelevant, but its so crazy that you just have to laugh… If the day we signed Chip kelly, we made a list of our nightmare scenarios would be for the next few years, we would all probably have signing Fratboy Buttfumble, and the 40yr year old Virgin pretty high on our lists, somewhere near drafting Johnny Jackass….

    If one of our rivals signed sanchez and Tebow we would be clowning them so bad,,, yet this is what has become of our reality….Its just funny, in reality its pretty irrelevant, and Sanchez i hate to admit can be the best backup in the NFL so I was all for bringing him back… is tebow really that much worse than having Matt Barkley on our roster?

  252. 252 botto said at 1:16 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    did the patriots get clowned when they had him for preseason?
    I mean who cares about a camp body 5th qb right now? if it was anyone worse then Tebow no one would care, its only because its tebow, a playoff winning qb, that people love to hate it.

  253. 253 anon said at 1:16 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  254. 254 GEAGLE said at 6:07 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  255. 255 eagleyankfan said at 1:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    embarrassed to be an eagle fan today. He might work out. He might do well. He might get cut. As a fan, having to deal with other NFL fans, it doesn’t matter what happens with Tebow and roster — today we’re the butt of every joke…Thanks CK.

  256. 256 botto said at 3:06 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I don’t think so

  257. 257 BlindChow said at 6:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Why on Earth would you give a damn about what other NFL fans think?

  258. 258 ACViking said at 7:44 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Heck, Kelly says the same thing every day — but I’m guessing he doesn’t limit himself to other teams’ fans.

  259. 259 eagleyankfan said at 8:07 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Its all n good fun with giants and Denver fans in the family… There’s no come back to those jokes… Not yet anyway…

  260. 260 GEAGLE said at 12:41 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    “Kelvin Benjamin admitted he got mentally fatigued during his rookie year.

    It’s not a surprise. Benjamin was one of last year’s more raw wideout prospects, yet was tasked with the job of being his team’s No. 1 target right away. There were some downs but a plenty of ups and the Panthers wisely stuck with him for the whole journey. When the dust settled, Benjamin overcame the fatigue to finish with 73-1,008-9 as fantasy’s No. 17 WR. He should have more stamina in Year 2”-roto

    Lucky for us, our Rookie WR, “The Pope of Novacare Village” got stronger as the year went on….cant wait to see Jordans year two improvement. He was a star at last years training camp, this year, Ertz and Jordan should be monsters in camp…

    According to the National Football Post’s Greg Gabriel, Nebraska DE/OLB Randy Gregory “will drop out of the top-ten (picks) for sure.”

    A former NFL scouting director, Gabriel presumably still has ties to personnel men in the league. He believes Gregory will ultimately be drafted in the 12-20 range, but views Gregory’s landing spot as a “wild card.” Gregory not only failed a drug test at the Combine, he has reportedly failed to impress during pre-draft team interviews. On the field, Gregory is a top 5-10 talent.-roto

  261. 261 Media Mike said at 5:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Drop machine. Garbage stat monster. Overall poor work ethic as evidenced by his comments about the combine.

  262. 262 GEAGLE said at 12:42 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    DEAR Chip KELLY…. I BEG YOU too Bring him to Philly. I BEG YOU, its the Missing link for a quality Philly Defense….I’ll deal with all the Tebows, and Sanchez’s you want, just bring us this quality young safety, perfect fit for our defense..

    “Teams have until Friday to sign Browns restricted free agent FS Tashaun Gipson to an offer sheet.

    It’s a bit surprising Gipson hasn’t attracted any attention even though the Browns only placed a second-round tender on him. A rising stud, he’s a candidate to break the bank if and when he hits the open market. If no one makes Gipson an offer before Friday, the Browns will have a steal at $2.356 million in 2015. For now, he’s staying away from workouts as he’s technically unsigned.”-roto

    Pretty Pretty Please, at least try to sign him to an offer sheet….He has knee problems, so he is perfect!!!

  263. 263 Avery Greene said at 12:44 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    If we sign him we need to give a 2nd rounder, right?

  264. 264 GEAGLE said at 12:45 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    yup..well worth it, rather then spend a 4th round pick on another safety that doesnt pan out…. former CB/Safety out of Wyoming if im not mistaken…

  265. 265 Avery Greene said at 12:46 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    So now becomes the question: with so many teams in need of a better safety, why is he still sitting out there?

    Is there any word on his off-the-field activities or his work ethic?

  266. 266 GEAGLE said at 12:51 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    teams rarely bid on another teams restricted free agents, it makes me so mad…
    Most teams view paying a 2nd round pick as not work it, you get to pick a high level talent at a cheap price for the next 4 years….. but MOST teams, havent had safety hell that we have experienced since losing Dawk… if we arent going to learn to draft safeties, then we have to find another established one like Malcolm Jenkins… but even a guy like him, probably too much to ask to spend a 2nd round pick, AND have to pay the safety veteran money…
    I love the kid, and im tired of worrying about safeties, so I would do it… but I understand not wanting to give the Browns a second round pick for a kid with a knee injury that we have to PAY and cough up a 2nd round pick for…

  267. 267 Nick C said at 12:59 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’ve wanted him since the beginning as well. But with the Browns so flush with cap space, Its hard to see them not matching a reasonable offer. So basically we are just negotiating for then. I would still like him, but waiting until next year may be the better move. To get him this year, we would have to drastically overpay for the Browns not to match and also give up a 2nd.

    Chip has proved that he values those draft picks (for better or worse), and if he overpays he knows it will hurt the cap situation. Without the carryover, we actually are already over the cap. But on the other hand, Im sure the cap guru could make it work. We will see. I’d love to have him, but I understand the rationale if we don’t go after him. And it hardly seems like we will… if we left him alone all this time.

  268. 268 GEAGLE said at 7:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Browns restricted free agent FS Tashaun Gipson is skipping the beginning of the offseason program.
    Unsigned players sometimes sign waivers that allow them to attend, but Gipson has zero reason to show up for the “voluntary” sessions. Teams have until Friday to sign Gipson to an offer sheet. Still only 25 (in August), Gipson has intercepted 11 passes in 27 games over the past two seasons.-roto

  269. 269 Donald Kalinowski said at 1:22 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Didn’t he tear his ACL right before the end of the season?

  270. 270 b3nz0z said at 1:23 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    i think just a sprain?

  271. 271 GEAGLE said at 6:04 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    yup, fits right in….

  272. 272 EagleNebula said at 1:07 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    If Tebow takes Barkley’s job, will he have a catch with Jimmy? I mean, Barkley never followed through on that.

  273. 273 GermanEagle said at 1:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Antonio Brownzzzzzz

  274. 274 Avery Greene said at 1:23 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Wow. 3 years into a 6-yr deal.

    #Steelers star WR Antonio Brown won’t be at voluntary conditioning, per source (as @MikeGarafolo said). He wants a new deal.— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 20, 2015

  275. 275 Donald Kalinowski said at 1:25 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    But he’s a top 3 WR in the NFL and getting paid less than Erik Decker.

  276. 276 anon said at 1:34 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  277. 277 Greg Richards said at 5:10 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Then he should have had his agent make his contract more incentive-based.

  278. 278 GEAGLE said at 6:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    wish we could trade for him… one of the few undersized WR’s I would love to get…

  279. 279 Donald Kalinowski said at 1:26 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Santonio Holmes. Mike Wallace. and now Antonio Brown.

  280. 280 GermanEagle said at 1:27 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    The latter is minions times better than the first two though.

  281. 281 anon said at 1:49 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    teams aren’t afraid to ask you to take a pay cut if you aren’t performing at market level, why shouldn’t you get to ratchet your pay up if you’re exceeding market level. The guy is a top 5 WR 2 years running AND handles return duties. Should he play out his career like that? He’s the reason the Steelers could let sanders and wallace walk.

  282. 282 76mustang said at 2:16 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Totally agree – high volume players run an increasing risk of injury and diminished playing career. Plus, GMs that are proactive in rewarding deserving (not just a one year anomaly) players ahead of contract year tend to get hometown discount over market rates in a lot of instances.

  283. 283 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:31 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Exactly. If he tore his ACL and wasn’t the same guy again, Pittsburgh would have him restructure his contract so that his salary would be cut just above the guaranteed he’s owed.

    People complaining that he “signed the deal and he should stick with it” needs to realize that the NFL can’t have it both ways. He’s in the prime of his career and needs to cash in as much as he can.

  284. 284 Avery Greene said at 3:08 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’m not upset, just surprised that’s all.

  285. 285 RobNE said at 4:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I find lots of people take the side of the billionaire owners, not sure why. Though he was kind of foolish signing a 6 year deal.

  286. 286 anon said at 5:40 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    he needs to fire his agent and get rosenhaus

  287. 287 laeagle said at 1:29 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Bottom line: anyone who gets either excited or upset about the Tebow signing needs a kick in the teeth (as my grandmother used to say).

  288. 288 BobSmith77 said at 1:46 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Capper to the strangest and arguably most interesting offseason in Eagles’ history and we haven’t even had the draft yet.

    Only way I would dislike this signing is if Tebow makes the roster as the 3rd QB, dresses most weeks, and only contributes on a small handful of offensive plays (inside the 10 in red zone sets, short yardage).

  289. 289 botto said at 1:49 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    if tebow makes the team it will be due to merit and then only our starting qb will have no playoffs wins.

  290. 290 MattE said at 2:40 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    just another Anti-Reid action, Reid signed Vick as a reclamation project and CK now has his…. no harm no foul, i think he is an upgrade over Barkley anyway.

  291. 291 Guest said at 2:44 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    G.J. Kinne – QB – Eagles

    Eagles QB G.J. Kinne will spend time at receiver and returner in the offseason program.

    Signed to a reserve/future contract after Week 17, Kinne has made zero regular season appearances. He’s currently the Eagles’ No. 5 quarterback. He’s unlikely to survive first cuts.

    Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

    Anybody know what kind of speed Kinne possesses that he may be able to make this position change? Also this is looking like the end of Kinne or Barkley for sure.

  292. 292 anon said at 3:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    MB is gone. Kinne will stay b/c of versatility for pre-season / practice squad.

  293. 293 D3FB said at 6:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    4.59 40

  294. 294 Insomniac said at 3:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    What’s there to salvage from Tebow? Vick is a once a generation athlete. Tebow can’t even throw correctly and makes horrible decisions.

  295. 295 GEAGLE said at 6:02 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    im not sure Tebow is an upgrade over anyone…

  296. 296 Guest said at 2:44 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    G.J. Kinne – QB – Eagles

    Eagles QB G.J. Kinne will spend time at receiver and returner in the offseason program.

    Signed to a reserve/future contract after Week 17, Kinne has made zero regular season appearances. He’s currently the Eagles’ No. 5 quarterback. He’s unlikely to survive first cuts.

    Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

    Anybody know what kind of speed Kinne possesses that he may be able to make this position change? Also this is looking like the end of Kinne or Barkley for sure..

  297. 297 anon said at 2:54 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    he’s just a camp body instead of throwing bricks he’ll be trying to catch them.

  298. 298 MagsJonesingYesNo said at 3:57 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Kinne wouldn’t be the first QB to end up playing another position. Some have become very good at their new jobs.

  299. 299 Greg Richards said at 5:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Kinne has already been doing this on the scout team. The only difference is that he’ll do it more in the offseason using the Eagles’ scheme.

  300. 300 GEAGLE said at 6:01 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    this gets on my nerves.,..i get that we need 90 camp bodies, but im getting tired of chip pissing away roster spots on kids who have no chance of ever making a 53 man roster…. instead of wasting another summer with GJ Kinney, we should be bringing in another long shot to take a close look at, the more longshots we bring in, the better odds of uncovering a hidden Gem…. .
    instead every summer we are wasting roster spots on kids with no chance of being a hidden gem that can make an NFL roster.
    as soon as you know a kid wont ever play in the NFL, you should get rid of him and use his spot to take a closer look at someone else..

  301. 301 anon said at 6:09 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    i though that’s what chip is doing with Tebow. I mean look at MS, he was a reasonable backup for us last year while people laughed at us when we signed him. He now was the record completion % which is a little depressing.

    Chip is dedicated to finding a QB, i’m ok with him leaving no stone unturned.

  302. 302 GEAGLE said at 6:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    He is, and Id rather see chip do that with our roster spots than keep bringing the same kid to camp every year who has no shot at making the roster… half the coaching staff have kids who are high school or freshman college QB’s.. Id rather them take reps and not count against the 90 man roster, then to spend a roster spot on a kid who we already know for certain, isnt going to make our roster…
    as of this moment, Tebow is just taking a flier on a longshot with one of our 90 roster spots, and thats perfectly fine, its exactly what chip should be doing with those 90 roster spots…this is the 3rd offseason GJ Kinney is going to be at camp, I mean come, for what? is it that hard to find a good kid that can give you what Kinney does who at least still has a long shot to be more then that?

  303. 303 unhinged said at 7:19 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I really don’t think Kelly has that perspective. Kinne is earning his keep on the PS, and I think Kelly views him as his 4th best QB option. The OTA’s and summer camp are when he has to make the calculations that play out for the year, and I think that is serious business for all concerned. Last year, I thought Kinne outplayed Barkley in the preseason, and if Chip drew that conclusion, Kinne would on the team roster. It’s not impossible.

  304. 304 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:58 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s shame Barkley didn’t amount anything. Back in 2011 he was a pretty decent QB. 6’3, good mobility, and a nice arm. He had a down year in 2012 and then had a nasty shoulder injury. Went from being a consensus 1st rounder to falling all the way down to the 4th. He still seemed pretty confident and positive despite being drafted so low and losing out on millions.

    I thought with Chip Kelly he would turn into something, despite all of the criticisms about him. Being a decent backup QB is still decent value for a 4th round pick. I guess Kelly has pretty much moved on from him.

  305. 305 MagsJonesingYesNo said at 3:59 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Something I haven’t seen anyone mention. All the fuss over Kelly and the Eagles just about guarantees many games televised nationally or late start. Good for those of us who don’t live in the Philly market.

  306. 306 botto said at 4:13 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    no matter where you live you can watch every game no matter what. its easy.
    I live in Maui and have never missed a game live

  307. 307 Javi Echie said at 4:40 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Hey botto would you mind sharing some of these websites please? I live in central jersey so I am stuck with Jets and Giants games every week.

  308. 308 botto said at 5:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I think the best one is firstrowsports
    I cant remember exactly if it’s .eu or something but its easy to find

  309. 309 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:04 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    wiziwag is good or NFL Gamepass

  310. 310 Javi Echie said at 5:31 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Thanks brotha

  311. 311 GermanEagle said at 5:07 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Is there no Eagles bar where you live? If push comes to shove you need to come up to NYC and watch the Eagles at Shorty’s.

  312. 312 Javi Echie said at 5:33 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    No Eagles bar whatsoever. They’re are a bunch of of bars but they get way to crowded and I am a pretty rowdy person come game day so I constantly get into it with Allas and giants fans

  313. 313 GEAGLE said at 5:57 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    hate watching games at a bar. If Im not at the game, I want my girl out of the house, lay alone eating in bed all day with my dogs…

  314. 314 Javi Echie said at 6:12 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Ohhh man I am the same exact way bro, leave me with my dog, food and beer, and my laptop and tablet I am good to go to watch the games and follow my fantasy scores.

  315. 315 GEAGLE said at 6:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    LOL i call my bed my multimedia room on game day, game on the TV, Redzone channel streaming on my computer, fantasy football on my Ipad.
    my friends get so mad, because I refuse to ever watch football games with anyone… every time I used to get together with friends, I would end up talking and miss half the game,…i dont know how people get together to watch games, or go to the Bar, I always end up missing half the game

  316. 316 truehaynes said at 5:30 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Firstrowsports. Type into google. They change there address constantly

  317. 317 Javi Echie said at 5:31 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Thank you sir.

  318. 318 GEAGLE said at 5:48 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  319. 319 Javi Echie said at 5:49 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Thank you my brotha

  320. 320 GEAGLE said at 5:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    good site, you can use it to watch any event live

  321. 321 James said at 6:29 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Umm, wizwig is getting shut down…

  322. 322 GEAGLE said at 6:37 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    they always shut it down for a few days, and then it goes back up again…. or you know for a fact that they are going to really terminate it? sure hope not..
    normally I watch events on that channel Live, and deal with some choppy streams, and then the next day I just download a torrent of the event so I can watch it again in good quality..

  323. 323 FairOaks said at 4:14 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Hm, maybe the Eagles are trying for a late play to be in the season opener against the Patriots… making it a more interesting matchup… (we had been rumored as the favorites earlier in the offseason, but now it sounds like the Steelers. We find out tomorrow night.)

  324. 324 RobNE said at 4:41 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    why does it sound like the Steelers?

  325. 325 NinjaP said at 4:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Steelers are more in line with the current trends of what the nfl has been doing but the eagles pull so much more audience members than the steelers they would be damn fools to put them over us.

  326. 326 RobNE said at 4:48 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I still don’t follow. What does “more in line with trends”. We are way more interesting than the Steelers. What trend says to put the Steelers in that game?

    We should get that game. I’ll be surprised if we don’t. My neighbor said he would take me too (not free). Can I see the Pats get their rings? yuk.

  327. 327 NinjaP said at 4:52 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    It’s just typically been a big time conference game. The only good AFC team the Pats play at home all of next year is the Steelers. We do make more sense but I would lean towards it being the steelers.

  328. 328 RobNE said at 4:55 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    ok I understand the AFC angle thanks.

  329. 329 sonofdman said at 5:05 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Fox might also fight to keep the Eagles-Pats game on their schedule (and away from NBC) because they don’t get the Pats very often and Eagles-Pats could be a national game that would get huge rating. The networks fight for certain games every year, and the NFL take some of it into account when choosing who will play in the opener.

    We’ll see.

  330. 330 GermanEagle said at 4:55 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    In the last 12 season openers there has been only one interconference game. Now you might not call this a strong trend, but it certainly is one.

  331. 331 RobNE said at 4:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I want the game and I hope we run for 350 yards and beat them silly.

  332. 332 GermanEagle said at 5:06 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I want the game too. But I don’t see the NFL breaking the trend.

  333. 333 sonofdman said at 5:08 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I personally do not want that game. Almost every year, the defending champs come out fired up and crush the other team. I think the defending champs have won every one of the Thursday night openers except two (Giants once and Ravens when they got killed by Denver).

  334. 334 Media Mike said at 5:13 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    So better to get our one loss out of the way right away.

  335. 335 Bert's Bells said at 5:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Do the teams really make that much of difference for the NFL season opener? Browns/Jags would draw a huge audience.

  336. 336 Media Mike said at 5:13 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    F the Steelers. Their fans are all human tampons and their star RB is going to miss the game due to suspension. We deserve that game.

  337. 337 ICDogg said at 4:57 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Starting with the opener vs the Pats?

  338. 338 Media Mike said at 5:10 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    We better get that opener vs. the Pats.

  339. 339 Media Mike said at 5:12 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’m sure this was said elsewhere, but I don’t hate the move…… I just hate the thought of Tebow on the 53 man roster come September.

    If he’s here to throw the ball around in min-camp, take snaps in meaningless pre-season games, and leave the roster once we draft another QB; it isn’t a big deal.

    If his slow to read a D, read one and run, inaccurate passing, play the game the wrong way, and sideshow creating act is actually taking meaningful snaps on this team in the regular season; I’m very unhappy.

  340. 340 anon said at 5:42 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Dolphins DE/OLB Dion Jordan was a no-show for the start of Miami’s offseason program.

    The reasons for Jordan’s absence weren’t immediately clear.
    The third overall pick in the 2013 draft, Jordan has been a bust
    through his first two NFL seasons, and has yet to nail down a primary
    position in the Dolphins’ defense.

  341. 341 anon said at 5:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    GEAGLE finally went and kidnapped him.

  342. 342 Mitchell said at 5:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I was gonna say, he’s gonna cream his pants when he reads this, lol.

  343. 343 GEAGLE said at 5:47 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  344. 344 Mitchell said at 6:23 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    More turmoil with Dion in Miami.

  345. 345 GEAGLE said at 6:32 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    kids future isnt in Miami… If they trade him, it has to be to US because i would fear another franchise using him correctly and rehabilitating his career, but Id almost rather them hold on to him, until his rookie contract expires, his stock would be in the toilet and we could get a very talented player at an extremely expensive free agent position for dirt cheap… as long as some 3-4 team doesnt trade for him and rehabilitate him, he will be an eagle after the dolphins let him walk in free agency.. another bad year, combined with being in the drug program, and his stock will completely be in the toilet and we can get him on the cheap..

  346. 346 anon said at 7:00 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    even after we get him it’ll take us a year to undo 4 years of bad habits and weight gain.

  347. 347 A_T_G said at 7:27 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I’ve heard amphetamines can help with weight loss.

  348. 348 Mitchell said at 8:36 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Or cocaine. They have similar mechanisms of actions.

  349. 349 botto said at 5:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    i’m trying to figure out but can’t remember why it is that Tebow is such a media firestormer?
    is it just because he’s Christian? that can’t be it, there are tons of other Christian footballers. what is it that people are so obsessed about with this guy?
    it can’t just be his prayer thing either, they all throw up to the skies after every play. I mean really. Jason avant is a Christian, why is he not a national headliner in every move he makes?
    just curious

  350. 350 D3FB said at 5:59 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    1. He was a household name before he got to the league.
    2. He’s very active in proselytizing.
    3. The media narrative that was created some of it his own making, other aspects beyond his control.

    Most of the religious players in the league will be active in a bible study with the team and “first thing, glory be to god” during post game interviews. Tebow was a little different in this regard, most of his large media time was spent talking about his faith.

  351. 351 GEAGLE said at 6:15 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    because he was the real life “40yr old virgin”

  352. 352 botto said at 6:38 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    without the humor though

  353. 353 unhinged said at 6:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Some folks of faith love his openness about his own faith AND he won Heisman AND he won a national championship. His popularity amongst some true believers only grew when, after a skien of losses at Florida, at a PC following a loss, he tearfully apologized to Gator Nation and promised with sincere resoluteness that it (poor play) would not happen again…and it didn’t. I believe that Florida won the national championship that season. Tebow seems to have more fans that aren’t football fans, and that seems to really irk many real fans.

  354. 354 GEAGLE said at 5:52 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    dawkins just broke the heart of sports radio land breaking down why the Eagles wont draft Landon Collins… if only they interviewed him earlier, they could have spared this fanbase from talking about the top safety that the eagles wont draft every single day…
    Sports radio was awesome today. I never laughed so hard. Gotta love the idiots who call up and talk about Tim Tebow as if he is the QB that will finally bring us a lombardi… people are insane when it comes to that kid. Never seen so much blind loyalty for a stone cold bum…

  355. 355 botto said at 6:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    hey isn’t that what they said about jesus?

  356. 356 GEAGLE said at 6:14 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    yeah, they all say it about cult leaders who talk 50 people into mass suicide…

  357. 357 botto said at 6:39 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    are you saying the 53 man roster will commit mass suicide possibly?
    shady escaped!

  358. 358 D3FB said at 6:41 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    explains coopers continued presence…

  359. 359 RC5000 said at 6:16 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    To be expected on sports talk. I haven’t listened in years.

  360. 360 anon said at 5:55 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Anyone think Eagles tried to work a MB for Dion trade? Be nice if people did some digging into this.

  361. 361 Media Mike said at 5:59 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    That would get you laughed off of the phone with Miami.

  362. 362 GermanEagle said at 6:22 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Did I see this just right or are the eagle and the NFL logo on the New Eagles draft hats golden?!?

  363. 363 Media Mike said at 6:24 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    That best not indicate we’re drafting Notre Dame players.

  364. 364 NinjaP said at 6:38 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Where did you see it at?

  365. 365 GermanEagle said at 9:14 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Check it yourself and (please) tell me that I was right:


  366. 366 CrackSammich said at 10:29 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Looks like glare on some kind of shiny surface?

  367. 367 GEAGLE said at 6:34 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I appreciate the signing of tebow for giving us something new to talk about and distract us for a couple days while we pass time til the draft…

  368. 368 James said at 6:56 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    D3FB: Im reading up on some NDT scouting by Kyle Crabbs, and I am intrigued by Alex Carter his third ranked CB and the 24th overall. I hadn’t even heard of him til I read up what he said. Could be a surprise late day 1 or day 2 pick. Do you feel the same way?

  369. 369 GEAGLE said at 7:03 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    love that kid, tough competitor… not a sexy option, and he doesnt have many fans around here, but I would love to get him if he fell in the draft. Been talking about that kid all year, but he is NOT the 24th best prospect in this draft, I wouldnt draft him top 50, and I like him as a CB prospect, there are DB’s I like better tho..
    .,. although im not thrilled about drafting more stanford kids with that stupid rule that doesnt allow them to join the team til training camp

  370. 370 James said at 7:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Why don’t you like him in the top 50? What games have you watched of him that have convinced you of that?

  371. 371 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Because he has been a bit of a tit off the field? had a weird incident jumping out of a window and lied about it claiming he was trying to be a hero etc.

    Think he is a quality player who lacks high end speed / physical ability to be a top CB. I am very interested in him as a Safety IF the eagles are happy with his maturity and commitment to football.

  372. 372 James said at 7:23 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Huh? Link please. I have found no character issue with Alex Carter.

  373. 373 D3FB said at 7:26 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    That’s Josh Shaw.


  374. 374 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:28 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Yeah just realised myself

    Brain fart ^^

  375. 375 Mitchell said at 8:42 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Josh Shaw is a solid player regardless of the incident he was invlovled in. He ran in the 4.4s at the combine and looks very good on tape. Before I even knew about his incident, I watched him and thought he was a second rounder.

  376. 376 D3FB said at 7:37 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Love Kyle, he does great work, but that’s one where Kyle and I disagree. I think he’s more of a late 2nd-4th player for me personally. He would be behind Peters, Waynes, Jones, Johnson, and Rowe. He fall into the second tier of CBs for me with PJ, Nelson, D’Joun, Grant, Collins. How those guys shake out is going to be more of a buyers preference.
    Don’t care about character concerns and just want best player? PJ. Play more of a cover 2? Nelson. Want super raw high variance player? Jalen.

    The long and short of my scouting thoughts on Carter: When he can get physical and play on the ball bump in run in your face coverage, he’s very good. I’m not sure how much he’s going to be allowed to get away with his physical style in the league, and his athleticism is borderline.

    I think I lean more towards the NFL.com writeup:

  377. 377 James said at 8:55 PM on April 20th, 2015:


  378. 378 Greg Richards said at 7:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Calling my shot: Post-June 1st, when it will be easier on MIA’s cap, Kendricks for Dion Jordan.

  379. 379 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:24 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    If Dion is getting traded will be after the June 1st deadline for sure. Personally i think they will keep him in camp and see how he looks and if things are still not coming together they will trade him in season.

    Big question is if he is resolving his whole drug situation as it is quite a serious situation for him and chip has not exactly been big into those guys so far in his NFL career.

  380. 380 anon said at 7:26 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    no way. You think? Kendricks is ready to play for us now, doesn’t Dion have to slim back down and become accustomed to playing in our scheme again?

    Do we have the 5th year option if we trade for a player?

  381. 381 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:32 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I don’t think so. But Dion would cost next to nothing for the next 2 years, and frankly i think Dion would be fine playing at a heavier weight, he has the frame for 275lb no problem.

  382. 382 D3FB said at 7:41 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    The problem is the one club in his bag that makes Dion Jordan special is his coverage ability. He hasn’t learned how to become an effective pass rusher yet. So you’ve dampened his ability to do the one thing he does well.

    It’s like removing the 3 point line from the NBA and then signing Kyle Korver.

  383. 383 Greg Richards said at 7:41 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Pretty sure you do. You trade for his contract and that contract includes the right to use the option.

  384. 384 Greg Richards said at 7:44 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I was probably jumping the gun. Saw that neither Jordan or Kendricks showed up for their respective team’s voluntary OTAs and my spidey sense went off.

  385. 385 anon said at 8:06 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    kendricks didn’t show? hadn’t heard that though i can understand considering everyone thinks he’s getting traded.

  386. 386 botto said at 7:43 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    ew I hope not

  387. 387 RC5000 said at 8:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    No thanks Lane is plenty to worry about and we just signed Graham so Jordan wouldn’t be a good fit since he needs development and he’s 25. Hasnt he already failed two drug tests?

  388. 388 CrackSammich said at 10:26 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Not saying you’re wrong, but I am saying that we would be getting ripped off. Dion only has his pedigree going for him at the moment. Kendricks is worth much more as an established player.

  389. 389 pjxii said at 7:22 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Just went to the Eagles Pro Shop on the mobile app. Looked under Jerseys. First ones that came up were #11 Tebow. Nowhere to be found- Sam Bradford.

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  391. 391 Media Mike said at 7:32 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Who needs any signings with draft picks like these………………….

    Round 1 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (B)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Alex Carter, CB, Stanford (A)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Deon Simon, DT, Northwestern St. (B-)

  392. 392 Greg Richards said at 7:42 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    You can get Clemmings a lot lower in first pick. I’ve gotten him at 52 before.

  393. 393 Media Mike said at 8:05 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    I have, at times, as well. But I bit on him early. I like the talent.

  394. 394 Mitchell said at 8:38 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Bell and Geathers are mid rounders I would kill somebody to get. Those guys are fantastic. I would spend a 3rd and 4th on them.

  395. 395 unhinged said at 7:36 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Everyone angry or upset with the Tebow signing, consider this: Two years work on his throwing mechanics, and nobody here has seen him throw. But Kelly has. I can’t be the only one who’s curious.

  396. 396 eagleyankfan said at 8:10 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    Are you curious because there’s a long history of qbs taking 2 years off and coming back to be an impact?

  397. 397 cliff-reaching for busts said at 8:21 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    seeing how eags basically have 2 guys like that, and 1 being pen’d in starter, hope it’s not too difficult

  398. 398 ICDogg said at 10:17 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    According to some gay guy that called into sports talk radio, the Eagles QBs are the hottest in the league.

  399. 399 ICDogg said at 10:18 PM on April 20th, 2015:

    The other crazy theory I heard today was that Chip brought Tebow on the team because he needed something to distract everyone from prying into his plans to get Mariota.

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