More Eagles Draft Talk
Posted: April 4th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 123 Comments »Before we get into draft stuff, a couple of things. Many of you want a podcast or at least a podcast update. We tried to record a show each of the past 2 weeks, but there were last minute issues that came up. I promise you we will do everything possible to put out a show this week. Feel free to blame Jimmy Bama since everything bad is always his fault.
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BGN had an interesting piece the other day. I’m not familiar with Matt Harkenreader, but he wrote a column about Chip Kelly and how he might look at things from a numerical standpoint, and in a slightly different way than you might think. The piece isn’t about analytics, but rather an engineering outlook on team building.
I don’t agree with all of his thoughts, but it is an enjoyable piece with some interesting ideas.
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The Eagles were at Maryland’s Pro Day. They were checking out ILB Yannick Cudjoe-Virgil.
Cudjoe-Virgil ran the 40-yard dash in 4.5 to 4.6 seconds, according to NFL scouts.
The 6-foot-2, 244-pound Towson High graduate also bench pressed 225 pounds 27 times. He had a 4.25 short shuttle, a 7.2 three-cone drill and a 9-10 broad jump before 30 NFL teams. That included the presence of New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick and Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio.
“I had a pretty good day,” said Cudjoe-Virgil, who wasn’t able to work out at the NFL scouting combine in February due to a knee injury. “I’m excited. I feel like I did well. I’m just trying to get more opportunities.
“It was definitely a big crowd, more than I even expected. It was definitely a good day for a lot of us trying to make a name for ourselves at the next level.”
Following the workout, Cudjoe-Virgil did board work for the Philadelphia Eagles and San Diego Chargers.
YCV, as I’ll affectionately call him here, is a late round or UDFA target. The Eagles are being extremely thorough with their research on ILB prospects. They are talking to Top 50 prospects and guys that won’t be picked. It is really going to be interesting to see who they do pick or sign. It will also be interesting down the road when we hear who they really wanted but missed out on (should that happen).
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One of my favorite CBs in the draft is PJ Williams from Florida State. He’s tough, physical and very talented. And apparently very, very dumb. He got a DUI this week.
He was driving the rental car on a suspended license, according to court records.
Williams, 21, stopped during a green light at the intersection of Dewey and Tennessee Streets before turning onto Tennessee Street.
He swerved over the center line several times and the outside line nearly hitting the curb before he was stopped, court records show.
The FSUPD officer noticed Williams’ eyes were red and watery and he spoke with slurred speech, according to court records.
He told officers he was coming from local bar Recess. His stance swayed and he braced against the door of the vehicle when officers asked him to exit.
He refused a field sobriety test and to give a breath sample at the Leon County Jail.
Williams told police he played football for FSU and he “just wanted to go home,” before being transported to the jail, the arrest report states.
He’s already got a suspended license. Then he drives drunk. Then he tries the old “Do you know who I am? I just want to go home” trick.
Does this sound like a Chip Kelly guy? I’m kinda leaning a bit toward no.
There is no way he goes in the 1st round to any team. Someone will take a chance on him, probably in the 3rd round. There just aren’t enough good cover corners. Some team will be willing to roll the dice. If you had a veteran secondary that could help the young guy, that might be the best situation. Clearly the Eagles don’t fit that description.
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The Eagles are checking out QB Cody Fajardo from Nevada. Tim McManus has the details.
The former Nevada quarterback has had one private workout to this point, he said, and that was with Eagles QB coach Ryan Day.
“He said I threw the ball really well.”
I can’t say I’m a big fan of his. I do need to watch some older games to make sure I get more of a complete picture. Fajardo is a good athlete and he’s got a lot of experience. I’m sure Kelly would enjoy having a mobile QB to work with.
I’ll watch more of him and write up what I see.
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Seeing as everything bad is Jimmy’s fault, he should be forced to take shots throughout the podcast. After all, shots did lead to an entertaining night of his Twitter rants.
Drinking shots with Jimmy Bama is on my to do list now.
PJ DUI will go UNDRAFTED.
No chance. If he were a RB or DT, I would agree with you.
Premier positions will always get drafted. SEA and NE are licking their chops right now.
I’m thinking of a team that needs help at CB, isn’t afraid of major character flaws, and wears pants that look like moldy silver.
Louichez Purifoy and Marcus Roberson disagree.
I think it is safe to safe Williams is substantially better than Purifoy. ThAts the only reason I think he still gets drafted somewhere.
Oh without a doubt he’s more talented, but people saying he’s only going to drop half a round or a round, are a bit silly. He’s not Marcus Peters level of talent.
didnt purifoy get arrested for selling drugs and then become a known confidential informant? lol i would hope he went undrafted
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My favorite was the seahawks drafting Tharold Simon after he got arrested the day before the draft and hit police with “do you know who I am?”
I’m not really sure what Purifoy did. I just know he wasn’t the most savory charActer.
Too good of a player to not get drafted.
Sometimes tape doesn’t tell everything.
Burfict went undrafted.
Ridiculous statement. If that were the case Famous Jameis would go in the 7th or undrafted.
I am willing to take a shot on any QB that isn’t GJ Kinne or Matt Barkley.
I was relieved to read on your workout list that Kevin Johnson is coming to town. The national mocks are starting to equate 1. Philly needs a corner + 2. Chip wants a corner who’s at least 6’1″ = Chip will reach for a corner with at 3rd Round grade at 20 because he’s 6’1″. Mr. Johnson may show what a guy with an actual first round grade who’s an inch shorter can bring to the equation, and someone will be watching it.
Sam I’m Not so I don’t know how much longer GJ Kinne can ride the practice squad, and Fajardo could be his replacement, perhaps competing for the #3 spot. He’s the one guy in this draft that fits the read option and he seems like a good guy, but I’m thinking 7th Round/ UDFA, 6th at most, which may pan out as no one else has worked him out.
Don’t know if someone has done a study of how often teams picked guys they didn’t work out in each round, but this is what I’d guess the FO’s 1st round board looks like (not mine) including just the guys worked out:
1. Mariota; 2. Brandon Scherff – the first two guys they’d possible trade up for if they got the right deal; 3. Shane Ray OLB who I don’t think they trade up for but maybe catch falling at 20; 4. TJ Clemmings OL; 5. Kevin Johnson CB; 6. Perriman, no idea where they’d rank him and not a can’t miss in my book, WR, 7. Bud Dupree OLB; 8. Owa Odighizuwa DE who’d likely give teams trouble that double team Cox; 9. Nelson Agholor WR.
I don’t know where the 6’1 thing is coming from.
Thurmond, Carrol, and Watkins are all 5’11”
Shane Ray is not an OLB. People projecting him there on size measurables are lazy. He’s Jason Babin not Clay Matthews. He’s a wide 9 DE.
Don’t know where Ray would fit on the Iggles then… doesn’t make sense to pick him but he got a workout.
Likely just kicking the tires, I don’t put any stock in them working him out.
This is why he’s not an OLB:
https://twitter.com/DarrenPage/status/578677699226394624
It simply comes from Megateon, Dez and ODB. You habe to counter your opponents. And 6’1 might be his ideal size. But if you can’t get it you habe to work with what you have?
I’ve seen a lot of people project Ray to the Von Miller/Bruce Irvin LB role in a 4-3 under.
Like I said below, that’s stupid. He doesn’t have that kind of athleticism.
He’s meh in the run game. He’s a liability in space. But he’s a stud when allowed to pin his ears back and fly off the edge. He’s a wide 9 DE.
It sucks for him if teams think he’s limited to that as the only teams that use the wide nine are the Lions and to some degree the Bengals and Bills.
Ehhh I think some teams may think they can get him to be a base RDE for them eventually, if they can get him to at least be a functional run defender, but I honestly don’t see taking him anywhere before the mid 2nd, because he’s going to have to be a rotational player until he bulks up enough to handle the workload. I’ve been saying all offseason I don’t get why the big media guys keep having him so high, so there must be some team in the 8-15 range that likes him, or everyone is bullshitting each other about liking him and he’s going to free fall.
many teams like the Giants or Cowboys use wide 9 on passing downs. Even the Jags often use wide 9 looks
Carroll is 6′ 1″
He hasn’t grown 2″ in his mid 20s.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/nolan-carroll?id=494254
My vote is still Bryan Bennett for 7th/UDFA QB.
Fajardo is faster with a better arm. Kelly has an informed opinion about Bennett whatever that may be.
It would be interesting if someone documented who has played well in the NFL with a sub-50 completion percentage as a senior, especially after 350 ATTs as a junior
Kinne has I think one more year of PS eligibility, since he played one year in Arena and two on the PS. The amount of coaching he’s received in two years gives him an advantage to make the PS again, but there are strings attached to the 3rd PS year. He was a considered a good project out of school with some arm strength.
About that article, Chip has tweaked his strategy for the players he has and for what he’s up against but expect him to play more like his college game now that he can pick the players, as he’s gotten his NFL initiation from Shurmer, Davis, and two 10 win seasons. He got personnel control for reasons that related to the office politics that week, and used it to create a Chipesque hurryup offseason while the other GMs stared on. He’s figured out that the NFL and college gridiron can’t be reduced to a mathematical formula but may use ’em.
Also, if Kinne beat out Barkley, Fajardo makes the practice squad and has Indian blood, then all four Eagles QBs would have Indian blood: Bradford – Cherokee, Kinne – Creek, Sanchez – mestizo. I assume Barkley has as much Indian blood as Senator.. no political jokes!
I was going to make a comment about our red skinned QBs compared to the Redskin QBs, but everything i tried felt racist. What a disgraceful team name.
Bradford shouldn’t lack for motivation in Landover, but just in case..
I watching a bunch of PJ Williams videos the other day and was wondering why this guy wasn’t ranked higher than Jalen Collins.
I’d still take him in the 3rd round if he was still there.
P.J. ran a 4.57 at the combine that dropped him on boards.
If we are engineering a team… then being mindful of Fletcher’s 4.44 combine 40 might be valuable.
PJ is the better football player.
Collins has the tape of a fringe top 100 but he’s very large and crazy athletic so people, especially in the mock community which is echo chamber heavy and light on film work.
PJ has much better tape but fringe athleticism.
I have a 3rd on Collins. I had a 2nd on PJ. Prior to this incident I was willing to overlook the leaving the scene incident as a kid being in a system where local PD bend over backwards to cover for them. After this incident, it’s a pattern.
Fringe athleticism, multiple legal run ins, he’s off my board.
Cody Fajardo is the cousin of a good friend of mine. He’s really gunning for him to take GJ’s spot…
Kinne do that?
Instead of YCV, why not just Cujo? Simple, easy to remember and who knows, maybe he’s either scary good or scary bad. ;~)
If he comes up for discussion again, Cujo it is.
Does this sound like someone else we know?
Replace with Eagles and Kelly and is exact what he has said
So, who stole this from whom?
Everyone wants big players who are good.
Are you sure that wasn’t actually Chip Kelly saying that? Could be his words verbatim.
Opinions on DJ Humphries, anyone?
A ton of injuries. He’s very agile but I question his durability and functional strength. His technique isn’t the best (it’s correctable) but he’s the type of prospect that I would sit for a year so he can learn/get healthy.
5 years to the day since #5 was traded to Washington according to my Facebook stream. Apparently, I commented on it then.
P J Williams sounds like the perfect Cincinnati Bengals target.
Happy Easter to the best…and only online Eagles community worth being a part of.
Re: Pre-Draft visits/workouts
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I can’t say how much I hate this. Let’s hope there is at least some value for Kendricks in return. Personally, I don’t even like a 2nd rounder. Let’s hope there isn’t a 3rd or 4th rounder waiting.
And all this while we’re barely looking at Safeties. How is that possible? I can only imagine we’ll try to convert a Corner there. They can’t do nothing about this position, can they?
First off just would like to extend a Happy Easter to everyone. I haven’t been able to follow with these posts like I have in the past, and I know there was a safety topic the other day. Idk if anyone brought up the Corner from Miami OH Quinton Rollins as a potential S target option. From what I’ve seen on tape of him I was blown away that he hasn’t played football since HS. Didn’t run all that well at the combine so I read teams like him as a cover 2 corner or playing the traditional free safety.. Thoughts?
Easter Mock Draft:
TRADE: Eagles trade 1-20 to DEN for 1-28, 3-92, 5-164, 2016 4th
TRADE: Eagles trade 2-52, CB Brandon Boykin to MIA for 2-47, 2016 5th
1-28: Byron Jones, 6-1, 199, CB, Connecticut
2-47: Nelson Agholor, 6-0, 198, WR, Southern Cal
3-84: Ali Marpet, 6-4, 307, G/C, Hobart & William Smith
3-92: Eric Rowe, 6-1, 205, S/CB, Utah
4-113: Henry Anderson, 6-6, 294, DE, Stanford
5-145: Mitch Morse, 6-5, 305, G/T, Missouri
5-156: Kyle Emanuel, 6-3, 255, OLB, North Dakota State
5-164: Jake Ryan, 6-3, 238, ILB, Michigan
6-196: Justin Coleman, 5-11, 185, CB, Tennessee
7-237: Austin Hill, 6-2, 214, WR, Arizona
UDFA: Randall Telfer, TE, Southern Cal
UDFA: Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada
UDFA: James Castleman, DT, Oklahoma State
UDFA: Edmond Robinson, OLB, Newberry
UDFA: Damian Parms, S, Florida Atlantic
This is a remarkably specific mock – hope you are from the future as i would be ecstatic with that as an outcome.
This would be my dream draft too. Jones, Rowe are perfect fits in our secondary. Only thing I would change is replacing Henry Anderson with K. Bell/C. Conley
Conley and Bell were definitely considerations – Conley in the 4th and Bell with one of the 5ths.
Really plausible scenario – don’t feel the value is equal on the Boykin trade, 50 pt. difference moving from 52 to 47 which translates to pick 122 (26th in 4th round not counting compensatory picks).
Also, feel like Marpet, Rowe, and Anderson are valued 1/2 to 1 round grade higher – might be able to land one of them, possibly 2, but to get all three would be pretty fortunate.
Great job though, would be very happy with this outcome if were to occur.
I feel the trade value chart there doesn’t reflect reality in this case. We moved up 12 spots last year with pick 122. I think a move from 52 to 47 is more likely to cost a 5th round pick. We also received a 2016 5th which dependent on which trade chart you look at is roughly equivalent to a 2015 6th. So, a 5th and 6th for Boykin. That might be a tad overly optimistic but from conversing with Dolphins fans most of them would approve that compensation.
Any chance the Eagles were also at Maryland’s Pro Day to watch WR Stefon Diggs?
Hey Tommy, you guys ever thought of doing an Eagles fan Q&A during the podcast? Or maybe do a live show with questions over twitter?
I don’t really like the idea of trading Kendricks for a 2nd round pick. We took him with the 46th overall pick in the draft 3 years ago and since then he’s played at a high level.
He’s not even 25 and last year he had 83 tackles, 4 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles in just 12 games.
I know fans have a tendency to overrate their own players but trading away a productive player at an important position who has been in our system for the past 3 years for a 2nd round pick seems extremely foolish. Especially when the guys who would replace him are coming off of major season ending injuries.
To me it seems like the reasoning for moving on from Kendricks is salary related. I certainly don’t think Kendricks is one of the top players at his position, but like the Trotter situation from 13 years ago, saving an extra $2-3 million/year just doesn’t seem like worth trouble of going through a few years of uncertainty at a really important position.
Kendricks has pro bowl potential, but that means bupkis if Chip doesn’t believe he has the right measureables.
Same reason Boykin never got a shot on the outside. Maybe Boykin would have struggled, but it would be hard to believe he would be worse than Fletcher.
I get the feeling Chip’s mind is pretty set in stone about this stuff.
what will people say when round 3 of the draft ends and mykal is still an eagle?
We’re only getting a 4th for Kendricks?! Damnit, Howie!
I don’t think Kendricks has the instincts that is desired for that particular position. I recall a bunch of talk about him taking the next step in making the calls on his own last training camp. That’s is primarily why I think its not overwhelmingly surprising that he won’t get extended, nor possibly be on the squad after the draft
Could happen, but then we’re left wondering why we kept Kendricks and paid Meco 3 million. I’d be willing to bet if he’s healthy our starting duo will be Meco and Alonso, with Kendricks riding the pine.
I think when combined with what they paid Austin it is apparent that Kelly places a high premium on veteran leadership.
3 Million dollars to be a locker room guy? I’m not so sure.
There are scenarios where all 3 LBs can be on field at same time.
The goalline…
Not the worst thing to rotate guys on 1st and 2nd…Meco wont ever play on 3rd down again unless of injuries… I loved Meco and Barwin, but I don’t love when they play 96% of snaps for a defrnse that’on the field more then anyone. Even if they can handle it, I don’t like it
No we aren’t. We kept Meco because chip values him in this locker room transition and respects him too much to throw 31yr old mufasa out on his ass mid rehab where NO ONE would sign him unless he get severely low balled. He helps this locker room transition and is hopefully healthy enough by week 6 in case Kiko or mykal have to miss a few games. For the 400th time chip talked about how ILB Seth was a main priority this offseason… We have it now, and some media hack won’t let this dumb city enjoy it with a fabricated baseless Rumor to the point where half the fanbase thinks one of our best young defenders is gone… Laughable
I would respect the possibility if it came from a report, not a beat hack brainstorming how to trade for this silly rookie qb
Im one of the few that defended meco since he arrived, and argued with everyone every single fucking year when they said it was his last year here, i even did it this offseason… but i doubt he ever again plays significant snaps as an eagle, unless he has to come in for an injured player mid season for a 3 game stretch…. but we’ll see….
Not much because nothing would surprise me with Chip. If he lets Desean walk for nothing who is to say in his mind Kendricks isn’t worth a fifth. One thing we are seeing this year is Chip does what Chip does in spite of what anyone else thinks. If I am any other GM I am throwing low ball offers to the Eagles for anyone not firmly locked down because who knows what he is willing to accept any more. For better or worse we are on the Chip roller coaster now and there is no exiting mid-ride.
Lol “we were a different defense with mykal Kendricks on the field”… Do I need to go back to the quotes about how he is so well rounded, so good at blitzing, so good at covering, it’s almost a dilemma that you have to chose how to use him? Yeah yeah sounds like a player he doesn’t value… Actually I think he is one of the 4 most valued defenders on the team in chips eyes, but we will find out soon
You missed my point entirely. I am not saying he is not a good, well rounded player. I am not saying Chip does not like him. I am saying we all have to throw conventional wisdom out the window with Chip and there is no longer any point where I would say “phew, I can safely buy ‘s jersey now because no way would Chip let him go for less than this. The fact is Chip has his own value chart and I am sure we have not seen the last head scratching decision.
i get it, but if we are going to use, anything is possible with chip at the end of every debate, what the fuck is the point of giving our opinions?
Oh no, not another guarantee that a player will be an Eagle. Haven’t we suffered through enough loses this off season?
Can we make this a wager? If Kendricks is still on the team after the draft I will happily apologize (since I quite like Kendricks) and take a 3 month hiatus from posting on Iggles Blitz. But if he IS dealt during the draft, then we all get a 3 month hiatus from the GEAGLE spambot?
All this Kendrick talk because a media member included his name brain storming ways to trade for mariota?
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What else has happened to warrant this Kendrick talk? Lowered the salary of injured Meco to make it easier to keep him on our bench?
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All chip said was quote, we are a different team with mykal on the field, but he has to stay on the field, then he pointed out meco, Kiko, Kendricks all missed significant time last year, since then he lowered Meco salary making it even easier to keep all 3(Kiko and mykal are on cheap rookie deals)…
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Meco won’t even me ready in September, so I don’t even understand this.
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Nothing has happened for the media to brainwash us into reaching this conclusion… Now if we want to talk about worrying about us losing Mykal after the year when we decline to pay him, sounds much more plausible to me.
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We needed ILB depth, we got it… What’s the problem? Actually we don’t even really have depth because Meco wont be able to play in September if someyhing happens to mykal or Kiko…
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All this because a media member included mykals name in Mariota trade? Losing mykal for 31yr old Meco 10 months removed from serious injury? What?
Because he’s going to command top tier ILB salary, when the the Eagles don’t necessarily think he’s worth that much. Especially during a year where they have to re-sign Cox and might have to give Bradford a contract extension.
He probably misses a lot of assignments that we don’t see when we watch the game.
They don’t have to resign Cox, he has the 5th year option
… kendricks is a rising star in THIS SCHEME!!! whether he is extended or not, my guess, will come down to whether he stays healthy this year. If he misses 4-5 games again, I doubt we pay him…thats the Question, his durabili9ty… not this bullshit about his height, his scheme fit, his this, his that… its only a question of durability I assume at least
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keep letting a dumb beat reporter brainstorming, lead to months of daily speculation lol
As GEAGLE mentioned below, I think it was all the hype for MM. They only negatives I can see from Mychal are somewhat undersized, and has not progressed in the mental aspect for calling a defense. He has decent instincts the way he shoots holes and gets tackles for losses. I remember a team mate telling him to just shut up and play. He gets to amped and hyped up and was wrapped around stats.
For those reasons I think Kelly brought in Kiko to replace Mufasa in calling the defense. Give him two years to acclimate and then Meco is gone. If they come to terms with Mychal.
I would understand if all this nonsense came from a report, but all this because a media member included Kendricks in their mock scenario to trade from this clown QB? How can we empower a moron media hack like this?
They traded for Kiko Alonso, gave DeMeco a two year extension that goes past Kenrick’s contract, and have brought in an unusually high amount of ILB prospects. Seems like a lot more than smoke.
laughable that you use Meco as an example of an “extension”, get real, we lowered his cap hit and he wont be ready by september… the meco contract points to keeing both Kiko and Mykal, not losing one…. his new contract made it easier to keep all 3…you dont get to use that as an example for why Kendricks is gone..
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High unusual # of ILBs? lol you mean due dilligence on a position we have no depth at? meco cant play in september, when kiko and mykal are coming off injuries and the next man up is Brad Jone or Acho, I would friggin HOPE we are looking at ILB;s/…
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think Mykals future is more in question after this year, then it is now… fortunately we get our answer in less then a month. if mykal wont be here this year he will be traded before the end of round 3, unless chip is some completely incompetant amauter which i doubt… you trade mykal for less then a 3rd, and you cant remain in power
think we wont count on Meco to be ready to back up Mykal and Kiko september, so we will draft an ILB, and hope that he shows enough promise to allow us to move on from Mykal after this year if he misses another 4-5 games for what, the 3rd year in a row?
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mykal is a rising star and playmaker in this Defense, playing THIS scheme… if we move on from him I imagine it would be because we dont want to pay for a guy that misses 4 games every year…. think him staying on the field is very important this year
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I expect next year to be a quiet free agency just like we were in year 2 after being aggressive offseason #1 of chip era…
So while people are clamoring to get value for losing Mykal, Boykin and Possibly Curry… if we draft their eventual replacements, let them leave in free agency and dont sign many free agents next year, we get nice compensatory picks in return.. so no need to unload them a year early to get value, if next year plans to be a quiet free agent market for us
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/05/talk-in-tennessee-of-titans-making-a-run-at-rivers/
Please make that happen so the Mariota to Eagles talk will finally die!
The AFC South is horrible but adding Rivers won’t help the Titans edge out the Colts. Would be a dumb move for a two-three year rental without a legitimate heir or much in the way of talent on the roster.
Agreed. I really don’t care if this trade makes any sense to any team as long as we will keep all of our draft picks.
https://twitter.com/RobTornoe/status/584773665788661762
That’s too funny.
In case you wondered who had won the McNabb trade exactly 5 Easters ago, here’s a funny take from someone on PFT:
As far as I’m concerned, Washington won this trade. With the 2nd round pick the Redskins traded to Philadelphia, the Eagles selected Nate Allen.
Washington only had to suffer through 1 year of McNabb. Eagles fans had to suffer through 5 years of Nate Allen.
lol
Stupid. I don’t see how you can say either team truly benefited from the trade, but I think you can say it’s possible the Redskins lost due to the the loss of the potential of drafting a good player. Add the cap hit that Redskins also had to pay, and the crushed hopes of the FO and fans that thought he would turn them into a contender.
I think it was a joke.
Ahhh maybe. I visit PFT alot because it is a good source for around the league news. Unfortunately alot of the commenters there are extremely short sighted and at times really uneducated when it comes to the sport. For that reason I don’t have a commenter name on that site because it would drive me nuts. I thank god for this site and the majority of the commenters on here. Here it is possible to have football educated discussions or debates.
Oh boy….
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You need to turn on your irony sensors more often, mate.
Washington won the trade. They flipped McNabb for a 6th rounder and drafted Alfred Morris. We got Nate Allen.
We also got a 4th from them that we used the next year(after trading down) to draft Casey Matthews. In the trade down, we picked up a next year’s 4th which we used as part of the compensation to get DeMeco. Neither team has won anything since the trade, so neither team is a winner.
Once the dust settled it basically comes down to whether you prefer Meco or Alfred Morris. I’ll call it a draw.
Its interesting that Stefen Wisniewski is still a free agent, is it simply because he wants to get paid? I haven’t seen anything about his character or concerns about injuries. Having just turned 26, something must be wrong.
It would be a guy I was interested in bringing in. Not only has he played pretty well in my opinion, but he should also be able to play both guard positions and of course center, he has the versatility we like. He might be a little too heavy for our system, but a couple of smoothie diets to go with a cheapish contract and he should be ready to close a major hole on our OL, by battling it out with Barbre + adding both youth and depth.
There is an injury issue. I forget the specifics but that’s why he hasn’t signed yet.
Oh yeah, a shoulder surgery according to a quick google search. Still, with our love for injured players, its still a guy I would love to bring in.
I imagine there are some injuries that are bigger red flags than others. ACLs aren’t as serious as they once were, and the league perception to that hasn’t caught up to the reality. So we’re picking the value the other teams are dropping. Something like a chronic shoulder injury is different, expecially for an OL that has to use his shoulders extensively on every play every game.
Yeah I was wondering about this myself. Tommy or D3 or really anyone with good knowledge on this can you please address it. I honestly don’t know much about the guy at all, but I just figured he would be a player of interest for this team. While explaining why he is still on the market can someone also please explain what his game is like.
To kick him out Of the draft entitely is wrong. This is a young guy who made a stupid mistake. A really stupid one. But how many Of you guys habe done worse at this age?
As long as there isn’t a history I would put it to rest.
On the NFL level I will never understand this. How can you be this cheap and drive instead of using a cap or call the NFL (they have a service).
Problem is there is a history. He already have a hit and run while drunk during the season. That means in less than a year, he has had 2 incidents involving alcohol and driving, add that he is a limited athlete and he will drop to day 3 earliest
a stupid mistake? this is a repeat offender. If you do some dumb shit like this when you are MONTHS away from being a millionaire, what are you going to be like when you have 10mil in your account?
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one serious mistake? Ok… when you already have a rap sheet, and you do this dumb shit a month away from hitting the lottery, you are a doinkey, and when a team drafts him anyway, bringing this idiot in the league and when he goes on to inevitably do some other moronic thing down the road, the franchise needs to be punished for bringing a known idiot into the league…
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If I was a month away from hitting the lottery, I would work out 3 times a day, and hide under my bed the rest of the time from now til the draft, just to make sure nothing bad happens…. Cant wait a month to go outr and party?
As a single event it´s a stupid mistake. As a repeated offender, it´s a problem. And I just can repeat: Those guys beeing millionaires in the future won´t take away their immature self. They are young and if you compare yourself to the age of 20-24 you see some development as well.
Driving drunk is really really stupid. You may change lifes for the worse because you injury others or yourself. It´s not worth it. Spend some bucks on a cap.
But I wouldn´t go as fare as saying: He has character flaws by just looking at this incident. That´s all I wanted to say.
Fair enough
For lots of these kids it’s their only shot out of a bad situation, they’re broke it’s not like they can pay someone to wat h them though hopefully their boys who will be jock riding after the draft would be there
wish the Eagles could fire Howie, and Hire Joe Banner and Sam Hinkie as a Front office Tandem.
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Joe Banner for the bad cop contract negotiating, you can bet your ass Miles Austins agent NEVER gets away with that 1mil Guaranteed if Banner were running the negotiations, and Give Hinkie two years to study the NFL and he would be a whiz at trades…. trade away whoever the hell you want,just get good appropriate value in return and hinkie would never trade away an asset if he wasnt getting the better deal in return.. buy Low, sell high, not a complicated concept… would love to have Sam running the trade negotiations and Banner doing the contracts, with chip and marynowitz running the player personnel department…
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never thought Id be wishing for dirty joe banner
I like John Harbaugh, but he better shut his mouth taking cheap shots at chip.. leave that BITCH behavior for Bruce Aryians… only pussies talk shit thru subliminal trash talk… gonna run your mouth, be a man and say what you gotta say instead of speaking like some coward in code….
I missed it. What did he say?
that some organizations dont promote their sports science AS much as others…
What a douche! Chip never promotes the sports science stuff. It’s the media that makes such a big deal about it. I’ll bet that Chip wishes no one knew we used sports science because that gives us an advantage over other teams.