Gardner in the Lead?

Posted: August 13th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 395 Comments »

Andrew Gardner worked with the first team at RG on Thursday. That’s the fourth time he’s done that in
Training Camp, making him the leader in that category. Does that mean he is now the leader in the competition to be the starting RG?

That could very well be the case.

Gardner started eight games in 2014. Two of them came at RT, the rest were at RG. He was the Eagles starting RG for the final six games of the season.

My guess is that the Eagles would have loved for Matt Tobin to win the job because of his age (just turned 25 in June). Gardner is 29. But Gardner is the better player right now. He has more experience and is more athletic. Gardner can be a good run blocker. He is strong enough to move his man off the ball. He also has the movement skills Chip Kelly likes in his OL.

The big issue with Gardner is pass protection. Quick interior rushers can get the best of him. I would hope the coaches have him face Vinny Curry as much as possible to help get ready for the rest of the league. If you can block Curry on the inside, you can block just about anybody.

Gardner isn’t going to become Evan Mathis Pt. 2, but he can be an effective starter. He can be a good player in a run-heavy offense. You don’t want him pass blocking 45 times a game, although that is true of most OGs.

Let’s get onto the rest of practice talk.

* * * * *

Jimmy Bama focused on Eric Rowe.

During one-on-ones today, Eric Rowe looked really good on three consecutive reps:

  1. Rep 1: Pass breakup on what was sort of a seam route.
  2. Rep 2: He jammed a receiver at the line of scrimmage, who took at least two or three seconds to get into his route. The quarterback completed a short pass, but in reality, he would have immediately come off that receiver and looked to his next progression in a real game setting.
  3. Rep 3: Deep ball to Riley Cooper that Rowe picked.

Very encouraging series for him.

Rowe is now working at CB and NB. I think having him win the Nickel job is a long shot because he is a rookie that hasn’t played that spot very much in his football career. The coaches are giving him a chance because he is so smart, instinctive and talented. If anyone can learn the role quickly, it is Rowe.

Tim McManus had a great quote from Rowe.

“Mentally I think I had a rough day yesterday, just with my man technique stuff,” said Rowe, who began his transition to nickel Wednesday. “Last night I went home, watched film, and knew what I had to do the next day. Today when I stepped out, I knew I wasn’t going to make those same mistakes. Going against [Cooper], I just made sure I stayed on top of the route instead of me just kinda trailing behind, and he just threw the fade.”

Chip Kelly is always talking about players who love football and who have a growth mindset. You can see the benefit of having players like that when you read Rowe’s words. There are plenty of rookies and veterans who settle for “good enough”. Rowe has been given an opportunity to win a key job and he’s going to do everything he possibly can to win that job.

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McManus also had some thoughts on the battle for the number three QB job.

Seven-on-sevens, and the battle for the No. 3 QB spot is heating up! Matt Barkley with a nice ball down the left sideline to Eric Tomlinson. Tim Tebow answers with a bullet down the seam to Mike Johnson. This one is tough to call. If it iwas being judged solely off accuracy, Barkley would be the winner. But Tebow has improved as a thrower and you wonder if Kelly is intrigued by the run/pass element he could bring to the table.

Coming out of camp, that is a fair assessment. There is an argument for each player.

Preseason games will be huge. And don’t focus too much on Tebow’s running. The coaches want the third QB to be able to be a functional passer. Tebow isn’t going to be as good a passer, but he needs to be close in order to win the job. I’m looking forward to seeing his throwing mechanics.

* * * * *

Good stuff from Jeff McLane.

Defensive-offensive line one-on-ones were abbreviated, but there were a few notable matchups. David Molk still looks like the leading candidate to be the backup center. He squared off against undrafted rookie DT Travis Raciti and kept going at him with his hands. Raciti appeared upset with the extra action and took a late swing at Molk. Tobin struggled against DE Brandon Bair and was tossed aside at guard. DE Taylor Hart stood out when he muscled undrafted rookie Malcolm Bunche to the ground. OL Josh Andrews battled to a stalemate vs. DE Cedric Thornton, but pulled up lame. He later checked into the trainer’s tent and left practice.

Vinny Curry played a little outside linebacker in the spring. The Eagles have no intention of having him in the OLB rotation, but they want to use his pass-rush skills and had him rushing from a two-point stance off the edge Thursday. He jumped offsides on one play. … Thurmond has shown a knack for getting into the backfield on run plays. He slashed through and “stopped” RB Raheem Mostert on one carry. It’ll be interesting to watch Thurmond play safety for the first time Sunday.

Matt Tobin hasn’t been getting glowing reviews from anyone this summer. Could be be cut? Preseason games will be huge for him. Tobin stood out the last couple of years in preseason games.

Get Curry on the field as much as possible. I don’t care if he is a DL or LB or some new position is created for him. Heck, put him at SS and have him blitz. Curry is the kind of disruptive player you want on the field and attacking the QB.

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Brandon Lee Gowton wrote about Sam Bradford.

Not Sam Bradford’s best day. He had a series where he went 0-4. One of the passes was almost picked off by Byron Maxwell, who still looks great. Maxwell also had great coverage on a deep ball intended for Agholor.

One positive sign from Bradford came when he kept the ball on the read option. He didn’t get super far but he didn’t look hurt while running. Seemed to be fine.

One of Bradford’s better series was highlighted when he hit Brent Celek with a strike where only the tight end could get it.

It was good to note that he took off running. Jimmy Bama has been writing recently about how Bradford never runs. No one needs him to be Mike Vick, but he must be able to move around and run when that is the best option. That said, I’d rather him focus on throwing the ball in camp. Save the runs for the regular season.


395 Comments on “Gardner in the Lead?”

  1. 1 the guy said at 11:30 PM on August 13th, 2015:

    The worst part of training camp is you can never be sure if the Eagles player is really good or the Eagles player he’s facing is really bad.

  2. 2 Media Mike said at 6:10 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Which is why what I can see with my own two eyes in game action in preseason vs other teams (with what the reporters write about the game) is significantly more valid than any garbage that comes out of practice reps.

  3. 3 Michael Winter Cho said at 9:36 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah, there have been some pretty homerific comments lately about practice. We’re talking ’bout practice!?

  4. 4 daveH said at 1:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    not a game.
    never ever gets old.
    have you surely seen DJ Steve POrter’s Press Hop ??
    wonnt ever get it off of my songlist

  5. 5 Greg Tulino said at 11:37 PM on August 13th, 2015:

    The only thing that matters during pre-season games is that nobody gets hurt. With that being said I am intrigued to watch our young players play on Sunday who are on the roster bubble go all out to make the decisions for the final roster spots as tough as possible on the coaches.

  6. 6 Media Mike said at 6:12 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Especially when we’re talking ILB and what we get as a result is Casey F-ing Matthews on the field.

    This year’s position of dread for me is RB. I want no parts of garbage Barner on this roster because an injury occurs to Murray, Mathews, or Sproles.

  7. 7 Avery Greene said at 8:59 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Mostert for the win! I would love if that kid’s speed will translate to a good player.

  8. 8 TheMeta88 said at 11:41 PM on August 13th, 2015:

    Jimmy is the only person I’ve seen say Bradford doesn’t look healthy in camp. Literally the only person.

    I also don’t see how him not running is a bad thing. Does Brady run? Either Manning?

    Bradford is a quarterback first, second, and third. He has some wheels to him when necessary but the bulk of his damage will be done from the pocket.

    Also it’s training camp so there probably isn’t much of a rush to begin with. That or he gets it out so quick he neutralizes it which is good quarterbacking so quit the bitching.

    I guess when Tebow is ripping off 20+ yarders every now and then Jimmy has gotten antsy but this has been the biggest non story of camp.

    We have three pre-season games to see how healthy he looks for ourselves and in a live environment.

    I want to see him with my own eyes.

  9. 9 the guy said at 11:44 PM on August 13th, 2015:

    Jimmy said Bradford doesn’t run. That is not the same as not being healthy.

    The replies to his Bradford comments were as embarrassing as the replies to his Cowboys trolling. At least Cowboys fans assumed malice before typing.

  10. 10 Dave said at 8:32 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I call BS. Here is his write up from 2 days ago:

    “A few Eagles media people have noted that Bradford doesn’t look hurt. That is a statement with which I agree. He’s not limping, nor does he show any sign of pain after his reps. However, not looking hurt and not looking 100 percent (which he clearly is absolutely not) are two different things. From what I’ve seen, unlike the other quarterbacks, Bradford does not attempt sudden movements to get away from defensive linemen, who, of course, do not touch the quarterbacks in camp. I’m not sure I’ve even seen him sprint yet. In other words, while it is true that he doesn’t look hurt, he shouldn’t, because he barely moves.”

    I’m with TheMeta88 on this one. The whole 1st half of his article he makes it clear that Bradford is hurt even though he doesn’t look hurt. Heck, he even uploads Bradford video with the Rams to show how he should look.

    I just can’t get on board with what he’s saying when nobody else seems to see it that way…and it’s not like there isn’t a lot of coverage out there between the local and national markets.

  11. 11 GEAGLE said at 8:33 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Bradford took off and ran yesterday, all the reports I saw said he looked perfectly fine running…

  12. 12 the guy said at 10:10 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I can’t tell you what Jimmy meant, but I didn’t take that as: “Sam Bradford is secretly hurt so panic”. I took it as: “Bradford might not be 100% yet or might not believe he is, because he avoids moving as much as possible.”

    He might be right or wrong, but believing Jimmy’s full of it because Bob Grotz and Peter King haven’t said anything isn’t a compelling argument.

  13. 13 Dave said at 11:59 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Bob Grotz and Peter King? How about the DOZENS of other reporters who haven’t said or inferred anything either? In fact, name one writer besides Jimmy who within the past week inferred Sam was still hurt.

  14. 14 the guy said at 12:58 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Every beat writer that reported that Bradford wouldn’t be playing in the first preseason game during Kelly’s press conference today?

  15. 15 Dave said at 1:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Um, so every beat writer inferred he was hurt? Probably his biggest doubter is saying the exact opposite…

  16. 16 the guy said at 2:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I really don’t see a point in discussing this further since you don’t seem to be understanding what I’m saying. But I will leave you with this:

  17. 17 Dave said at 3:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    lol, you found 1 person…I’ll stick with opinion of the other 99% of reporters at training camp.

  18. 18 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    uhh…maybe not being hurt and not 100% are two different things…just saying…obviously he is not injured since he is playing…but surely it is possible that someone coming of a second ACL surgery is not 100% but not necessarily showing traditional signs of being hurt….

  19. 19 ICDogg said at 12:45 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Jimmy’s criticism seems fair to me. It isn’t just that he doesn’t run, he’s not scrambling outside the pocket nor moving much in the pocket. That doesn’t mean he can’t but it’s something that he needs to be able to do.

  20. 20 wee2424 said at 1:01 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    It’s not that he isn’t running, it’s that he isn’t navigating the pocket or rolling out. He seems like a statue back there for the most part.

  21. 21 disqus57 said at 12:11 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    “And don’t focus too much on Tebow’s running. The coaches want the third QB to be able to be a functional passer.”

    A functional passer, yes, but I don’t think we should downplay the running aspect. Let’s face it, if Bradford and Sanchez go down, neither Barkley nor Tebow is going to carry the team with their arm. A ground attack, however, featuring Tebow and our awesome running back stable can win games. Part of his Denver success was picking up 60 yards per game, and opening up lanes for the backs. When opponents stacked the box, he was a good enough passer to take advantage of the gaps in the secondary.

  22. 22 ICDogg said at 12:39 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I agree. If it comes down to the 3rd qb you take whatever edge you can get. You’re in triage mode at that point so the normal way of operating goes out the window. Now you’re just trying to gut out a win somehow.

  23. 23 Media Mike said at 6:12 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’d like to downplay the running aspect of QB play right out of the league.

  24. 24 disqus57 said at 10:41 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Good luck convincing Pete Carroll of that. His QB picked up 850 yards last year, and the team did okay.

  25. 25 Media Mike said at 2:52 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Pure Steve Young style running and a necessity. Plus Wilson is an extremely unique player. His runs are only that of last resort and due to an extremely low pool of pass catching talent.

    For every one Wilson you have multiple bums like Scam Newton, RG-Me, Kaepertrash, Johnny Speedball, Tie-rod Taylor, Tea-blow, etc. etc. etc. They’re all garbage except for Wilson.

  26. 26 disqus57 said at 3:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    No, it’s not “last resort” – the read option is an integral, important part of the Seahawks offense. (article) And you’re free to make up juvenile nicknames, but Newton, Griffin, Kaepernick, and Tebow have all taken teams to the playoffs with read option offenses. Tebow did so with a system hastily installed mid-season by coaches with no experience in it. Have a blessed day, my friend.

  27. 27 Media Mike said at 4:48 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    More like a wretched day if I’m stuck viewing an increasing level of garbage running around by QBs mucking up a good sport. The fad needs to go.

  28. 28 SteveH said at 1:22 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    But… D3FB promised me Tobin was going to be the guy.

  29. 29 mksp said at 2:06 AM on August 14th, 2015:


    Yes, let’s call out one of our most thoughtful, intelligent, experienced posters for liking a guy that may or may not be having a rough camp thus far.

    You win, man! Good job! The internet is awesome!

    But seriously, don’t bring this nonsense here.

  30. 30 Dominik said at 5:44 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    It all depends on the language. The post from Steve was harsh, too harsh for me. At the same time, D3FB has gone out of his way in telling everyone around here that Tobin is good.

    I’m not going to write Tobin off without a Preseason game being played. The lines are tough to evaluate in camp, especially for reporters. But having 2 opportunities to be the starting RG and not getting any more chances in over a week doesn’t look like a good TC. And that’s from the coaches, not some reporters.

    But again, can’t write Tobin off at this point. That’s just not fair. But in the end, if you repeatedly write how good a player is, you will be taken by your word. That’s only fair.

  31. 31 bill said at 8:25 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think you are mis-stating what D3FB actually said. He reviewed tape of Tobin from college and several games last year. Came to the conclusion that Tobin played well in run blocking, but struggled some in pass pro. Took into account that he was playing on a high ankle sprain and that he’s relatively young with little experience, and projected growth for this year.

    I didn’t see anywhere that he proclaimed him the next coming of Evan Mathis, or even Todd Herremans. And just because he’s possibly losing to Gardner in the competition right now doesn’t necessarily mean that D3FB was wrong in his projection. It is possible that Tobin is better than he was last year, but so is Gardner, and Gardner is just that much better. Of course, as you admit, we, as outsiders, know very little of what Kelly is thinking until game time comes.

  32. 32 GEAGLE said at 8:29 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Tobin belongs at LG…. Gardner is better at RG from what Inavd seen

  33. 33 sonofdman said at 10:46 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I agree with everything you say and I love D3FB’s contributions (and I thought his film study of Tobin was great), but is it possible that SteveH was just joking?

    Maybe his tone didn’t come across the way he intended, but I read his comment as a little light ribbing as opposed to calling out D3FB. I hope this is the case anyway.

  34. 34 SteveH said at 12:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    This was actually what I intended. Not sure why everyone is going off the deep end with it.

  35. 35 TommyLawlor said at 2:08 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Games might bring out the best in him.

  36. 36 Media Mike said at 6:18 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I don’t have a lot of faith in Tobin either, mostly due to him playing with an empty cup for a lot of games last year, but D3 was using some sound logic based on segments of film (and a projection that Tobin would be more healthy) to talk up Tobin’s ability to play.

    I won’t lob a bomb directly at another person posting on here for their opinion on a player in a stand-alone comment. I’m sure you can break D3’s stones directly when he makes his own comments on here.

  37. 37 GEAGLE said at 9:09 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I don’t think tobin is bad… He still shows promise and I would gladly keep up as Barbres backüp at LG, but while Tobin does have some talent and ability, I don’t think he is the best option at RG…. I liked what I saw out of Gardner last year more then what I saw from Tobin…. So while I never really bought they hype of Tobin starting, he is still a nice young player who will probably be our best backüp this year while Gadner and Barbre start at the Guard spots..
    Think Gadners biggest threat at RG is Moffit shaking off all the rust and returning to form….
    Not really sure why Tobin got so much hype but Gardner flew under the radar, but whatever, not my problem

  38. 38 D3FB said at 7:11 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Specifically what I said was that I was high on Tobin. I was optimistic that he would be the guy.

    This was based on going back and watching his all 22 from last year. His skill set is very similar to Gardeners. He’s a good athletic run blocker who has some limitations in pass pro. I projected a growth based on having gained valuable playing time last year and the fact he was a late bloomer who walked on at Iowa (so he’s a hard worker and like all Iowa OL, technically sound). However player development isn’t liner. Sometimes it suddenly clicks. Other times guys stagnate.

    I was told a few weeks ago by someone with better first hand access than I that the team had cooled on Tobin since last year, but they weren’t sure as to why. (Gun to my head I’m guessing it’s a “not tough enough” situation with regards to injuries). As you can see I’m not working with pure information input into my projections. There are unquantifiable aspects that I as an outsider just will not know.

    Am I going to be wrong from time to time? Yes. Because if I wasn’t I would be making prop bets in Vegas and living on my own private island.

    However, my opinions are based on film work, as well as a deep understanding of X’s and O’s and technique. I’m not going to write 400 things about every player and jump up and down every time one of my opinions is validated. Nor will I be someone who claims my opinion was different than the one I held after the fact in some effort of looking correct.

    Also it’s week 2 of camp with minimal contact. It’s not like he’s struggling to make an arena league roster.

  39. 39 Media Mike said at 2:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    (Gun to my head I’m guessing it’s a “not tough enough” situation with regards to injuries).

    A lot of that going around with this team. Tobin(?), Kendricks, and Wolf!

  40. 40 D3FB said at 5:36 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    The weird thing is it’s a odd position for a modern enlightened coach to hold

  41. 41 ian_no_2 said at 1:51 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    One of the main guys I’m rooting for is Tomlinson, and he answered critics of his NFL receiving potential today. Kelly activates 7 OL and there were at least two games last year where two guys went down so there were no reserves left in case of another injury, so with Tomlinson you can activate a blocking TE for short yardage and other formations who can be the emergency 8th OL. Supposedly whatever he can do against good NFL coverage he has a knack for getting open against less attention. Plus the beard and all that – he could be a fixture.

    Raciti – a 3-4 DE that can be a serviceable fill in is worth more than a WR with some exciting game tape, and that’s what Raciti is, but I don’t see him being better than that. I was just venting about Biggers at DB but Peter King was just talking about how thin most teams are there (which may be why Kelly picked 3 CBs in April), same with DL. Raciti might be worth keeping on the PS in case there’s an injury.

  42. 42 ian_no_2 said at 5:39 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Chris Maragos started as the first team safety because they start with the guys with the most experience. That’s one way to view Gardner’s position now.

  43. 43 Dominik said at 5:47 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    First few days of camp are different than 12 days into camp. Also, Tobin had two chances at the RG starter, but none after that. I don’t think your argument with experience is especially valid when it comes to the RG position.

  44. 44 ian_no_2 said at 6:56 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    There’s a difference between the two, most notably that Gardner has a chance to win the starting job and Maragos doesn’t.

  45. 45 Dominik said at 5:54 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    In many practice reports, I read Maehl being the target for Bradford and Sanchez quite often (which means action with the 1s and 2s). I know Chip is rotating WR in and out, but there is no reason to be worried, is there?

    I mean, we have three talented young guns. We have 5m Cooper, 1m guar. Austin and a great STer in Ajirotutu and two young guys in Bailey and Pratt who appear to be at least PS material. 8 guys, 6 of them who could make the roster and it isn’t guarenteed we even keep 6 (altough I think we’ll do, but it’s no given). Maehl is finally gone after camp, I hope. He’s the kind of WR that just gives me nothing. Not good, not young, not fast, not a great athlete (I know, very good 3 cone and 20 and 60 shuttle drill, but I never saw that on the field). No NFL skills now, no upside, that’s just a bad mix imo.

  46. 46 P_P_K said at 9:14 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    But Air Maehl is such a cool nickname.

  47. 47 wee2424 said at 9:26 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    The Eagles use more then just 3 receiver sets so if he is catching passes from Bradford it’s possible he is coming in as a 4th or 5th WR. Also the rotation as you noted. No reason to worry at all.

  48. 48 Media Mike said at 6:09 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    “Get Curry on the field as much as possible. I don’t care if he is a DL or LB or some new position is created for him. Heck, put him at SS and have him blitz.”

    Great ideal, but not exactly an intellectual strength of Billy Davis.

  49. 49 Media Mike said at 6:20 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m very jazzed up for Sunday’s pre-season game. I’ll be back home and ready to check out some live game action.

    And the only logical conclusion of pre-season play should be;

    – Cut Tebow
    – Cut Barner
    – Cut Cooper (And I can’t believe this requires me to be a big supporter of Miles Austin! – that does not feel right)

  50. 50 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:27 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I don’t think Cooper Is getting this year unless some other WR steps up. And it sounds like Austin hasn’t had a very good camp.

  51. 51 GEAGLE said at 8:25 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Have we ever played a 1pm sunday preseason game?
    Dying to see MS2, Jaylen Watkins, ROWE, Hart…

  52. 52 ACViking said at 2:04 PM on August 14th, 2015:


    Yes. Routinely in the ’50s, ’60s, and into the early ’70s.

  53. 53 GEAGLE said at 8:24 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    While I always expected Garner to beat out Tobin for RG, until coaches see these kids in the preseason, I don’t know that anyone is in the lead yet…

  54. 54 ACViking said at 1:59 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Actually . . . you wrote that you would not rule out the possibility of Gardner winning the job. Not that you expected him to win it.
    That said, you were an early fan of Gardner’s — so props.

    GEAGLE on 6/10/15:
    the assumption seems to be Barbre and Tobin will be the starters,
    but I definitely don’t rule out Gardner winning the RG spot.

  55. 55 cliff-Beware of Wolff said at 8:25 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    3rd and long, i dont care if they line VC up at safety, just get him on the GD field and hunt QBs

  56. 56 Ark87 said at 8:44 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Now if Chip could science a way to line up Vinny at running back without the refs noticing…

  57. 57 MattE said at 10:58 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Is that a kicker getting the toss lol (single digit)?

  58. 58 Ark87 said at 11:48 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    A guy from SB nation does a series called Breaking Madden, He’ll take an upcoming game on the schedule, make a theme and break the game. He’ll take a portion of the team and replace it with custom creations named after some of his twitter followers. In this one I think he was trying to create the most amount of injuries possible. He made it a snowy Carolina day, turned injuries to maximum, penalties off ( to line up in the back field), and made a ton of 7-foot tall bean stalks with minimum stats, particularly durability, to play Fullback and take direct snaps over and over. So yeah that was one of his twitter followers getting a herniated disc.

    Here’s an example of a maximum height/minimum weight/minimum stats twitter follower attempting to tackle minimum height/maximum weight/maximum stats player (Breaking Madden Stalwart: BEEFTANK (all caps are a must)) with the controller sitting idle on the coffee table

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 9:03 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Lol @ another cowboy RB, Gua Johnson, getting injured.l.
    We have been laughing at the Cowscum running backs for months… As much as we ripped them, im starting to think it’s even a bigger problem for them then they think..
    Gus, McFadden and Randle are all injured, they had to run that bum Lache Seastrunk last night..
    seriously, Dallas Probably has the worst RB in the NFL… Who has less RB talent then them?
    Baldi claims that Randle ISNT a starting RB, he lacks the focus to be an every down back… I dont side with Baldi too often, but he could very well be right… I’m not the least bit sold on Randle.. Being the featured back that the defense studied all week long is very different then being a backüp who defenses didn’t respect allowing him to get 7 yards a carry,…. This season will be a much different experience for Randle then last year when he came in the game and ripped off 7yards per carry because defenses barely respected him..
    McFadden is TRASH! Even worse he is so fragile, dude is the king of soft tissue injuries, he is out with two bad hamstrings
    Everyone talks like this cowboy team is some juggernaut but you have to be able to run the ball in November/December, and i can’t fathom how they could undervalue the RB position to this extreme extent… When the Cowboys OL faces quality DL’s, it’s up to the RB’s to make Linebackers miss or run thru them, yet they don’t have the horses at RB… While our DL occupy the Cowboy OL, how the hell are these RB scabs going to shake free of Kiko and Kendricks?

    Instead of helping Romo with a run game, you make a mockery of the RB position and now Romo has to carry the team and the run game? Yet people talk about them as if they are some juggernaut team destined to make the playoffs? Get real,..

  60. 60 Avery Greene said at 9:08 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Demarco Murray had close to 500 carries last year. NONE of those RBs can handle it, and truthfully I don’t even think they can do it as a committee. They have a very good OLine, but people are putting them up there like they are the best ever. I’m not buying that.

    I look at it like very good OL and a very good RB make for a very nice offense. If they don’t have anyone to carry the load, the pressure goes back to Romo.

    That’s what Jerry Jones deserves BTW for tampering with AP and thinking he was going to get him on the team.

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 9:11 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Thinking they could stick any RB behind that OL is laughable…
    When that Dallas OL plays against a piss poor DL, the OL can be enough to run the ball well… But when that great dallas OL gets tied up having to battle against an Elite DL, it’s up to the RBs to make the Linebackers miss, or break their tackles…… And they simply don’t have the RB Talent to run wild against our ILBs
    They are going to have to pick up other RBs.. Can’t wait to see the slop that they sigń ..

  62. 62 MattE said at 10:56 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    i await the Ray Rice signing.

  63. 63 Ark87 said at 11:56 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    it seems inevitable doesn’t it?

  64. 64 RobNE said at 10:57 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I missed it, what tampering did Jerry do? Did the league do anything? Why isn’t there a trial going on about this?

  65. 65 Avery Greene said at 12:19 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    There was an article/expose about Jerry Jones and the author casually mentioned that Jerry received a phone call from one of AP’s friends and then he talked to AP who said he wanted to come and play for the Cowboys. Jerry smiled and nodded or whatever and said he’d like that too.

  66. 66 wee2424 said at 9:20 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Gus Johnson actually looked decent for them last night too. Reminded me of Ivory.

  67. 67 Media Mike said at 2:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think we should trade them Barner for a conditional cheerleader.

  68. 68 wee2424 said at 9:19 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Encouraging to hear something positive about Smith again.

    Thurmond was active versus the run as a CB but how he played the run as a safety was one of my biggest questions Mark for him. To hear he has made a habit of shooting through the line on run plays is very encouraging. Have to wait untill games to truly see but he almost sounds like a natural at the position.

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 9:26 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Understand your concern… Seeing how Thurmond plays the run is certainly an important question we need answered,,, but our Front 7 has been shutting down run games with Nate at safety, who no one will confuse for an enforcer against the run….I don’t care who we start at safety, you wont be running on our front 7.. One of the top 3’front 7 in the game,,.
    Heck we probably have the best front 7 in the NFC now that Carolina lost Greg Hardy, And Star Lotululie injured

  70. 70 RogerPodacter said at 9:58 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    i think Jenkins made the comment that with Nate, the team was forced to put him (Jenkins) in the box more since Nate was more of a center-fielder type safety and wasn’t so useful playing in the box.
    if thurmond can do it even sometimes, that frees up both safeties to be the more versatile players that they can be

  71. 71 wee2424 said at 1:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Agree. I am a big fan of Thurmond, but I still think it’s going to be Jenkins in the box alot more then Thurmond. Thurmond will stay back or go to slot. With his injury history and size you don’t want him in the box much.

    What he may be effective at now and then is blitzing. He has been rated the most effective CB at getting to the QB the last few years. His opportunities will only increase at safety.

  72. 72 GEAGLE said at 9:21 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    How has mathis not fired his agent yet?
    He is going to miss the first week of preseason games..
    If Mathis wants to actually play this year, he is going to have to pick a team, hurry up and learn the playbook, and prove he should start for his new team with only a few weeks left to start the season.
    MATHIS went from starting on what should be a playoff team making almost 6mil for his services this year,,, now he is getting like 2mil per year offers, a third of what he was making for us… But not only is he going to lose a ton of money, but he may not even start this year because of his actions,…. If he hasn’t fired his agent yet, what else would need to happen for this fool to fire his agent for the HORRible CAREER advice?
    mathis was a journeymen his entire career… He came here and was able to start on a good pffense, make pro bowls, start getting some recognition all while in the twilight of his career… You would think he would have appreciated the position he was in and would care enough to fight to finish his career starting for a good team, making good money..
    Instead he is about to miss the first week of the preseason, while teams like Miami are low balling the heck out of him, trying to get him to sign for only 2mil
    I don’t know that I can thing of too many other examples where and agent screwed up his clients career this badly,. mathis was Probably better off representing himself, he would have done less damage to his career then that Greedy Prick Rosenhause did…

  73. 73 Avery Greene said at 9:51 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m not so sure it’s all his agent. He’s telling people on Reddit he will get the same money he was making w/the Eagles.

  74. 74 RogerPodacter said at 10:01 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    yea, i hate to admit it, but Mathis is just as responsible for where he is at. i feel bad for the guy, but oh well.

  75. 75 Fufina said at 10:54 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    He is waiting for an injury IMHO. Some contending team will loose a starting guard and will be willing to pay him $6mil for this year (can give him an ego 2nd year because it will be unguaranteed and will cut him).

    However the whole situation was stupid – he was miss advised by Drew (which is rare he normally does a pretty good job for his players), I think his issue is he knew he would make $6mil this year and be cut next and felt that he was worth more than that. He was wrong.

  76. 76 anon said at 10:30 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    he did an ama? what else did he say?

  77. 77 Avery Greene said at 11:17 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    It was a side comment he made on a different thread.

  78. 78 ACViking said at 1:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    What proof is there that ANY OF IT was the agent?

  79. 79 Avery Greene said at 2:07 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Good question.

  80. 80 MattE said at 10:30 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Elvis Dumervil’s agent forgot to fax paperwork… that’s pretty bad lol.

  81. 81 ACViking said at 1:48 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    That guy was fired.

    See my point.

    Agents who screw players get fired.

    Agents who take the heat for a player’s bad judgment do not.

    Again, just a theory.

  82. 82 ACViking said at 1:47 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    How has [M]athis not fired his agent yet?

    Because Mathis’s agent was not making the decisions. Mathis was.

    Otherwise, Mathis would have gone public already to express his regret . . . and fired his agent.

    A theory, at least.

  83. 83 A_T_G said at 1:49 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yep. You called that one a couple weeks ago, and you are correct.

  84. 84 GEAGLE said at 9:29 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Some really good quotes from yesterday:
    billy Davis talked about his first experience against Bradford (PhillyMag)
    BG was Raving about Agholor and how he thinks he will be the best WR in his class (PhillyMag)
    ROWE gave some nice quotes about how he went from struggling his first day in Nickel(wed) but came back the next day and put on a show in practice.
    KELCE did a solid interview with Angelo Cataldi this morning (Radio)
    11:20am Chip press Confrence today

  85. 85 A_T_G said at 11:11 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    “Mentally I think I had a rough day yesterday, just with my man technique stuff,” said Rowe, who began his transition to nickel Wednesday. “Last night I went home, watched film, and knew what I had to do the next day. Today when I stepped out, I knew I wasn’t going to make those same mistakes. Going against [Cooper], I just made sure I stayed on top of the route instead of me just kinda trailing behind, and he just threw the fade.”

    It is up above in Tommy’s article.

  86. 86 peteike said at 11:46 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    love the Rowe quote above, who wouldnt. Growth mindset.

    Heard Bradfords not playing sunday

  87. 87 ACViking said at 1:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Is there an NFL player who doesn’t watch film?

  88. 88 peteike said at 1:53 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    let me have my fanboy moments, cmon

  89. 89 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Fair enough.

    Side note: Would love to know if Rice is doing what Rowe did after practice.

  90. 90 Dave M. said at 9:36 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    At 290 lbs., Tobin is too light to play OG in the NFL.

  91. 91 Avery Greene said at 9:55 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Did he lose weight? If not, why didn’t he pick up weight this offseason? This makes me think of D3FB’s comment below that the Eagles coaches may possibly be cooling on him.

    At 6’6 he should be 310 at the least. If Alejandro Villaneuva can pick up 100 lbs in one year, he should have been able to add 20 lbs in 5 months.

  92. 92 D3FB said at 10:47 AM on August 14th, 2015:


    That’s from his wikipedia bio. And the Eagles website, which doesn’t update weights.

    Which is getting that number from the Iowa roster from his senior year. In 2012.

    If he showed up at 290 that would have been noticable and widely reported.

  93. 93 LongDing said at 10:42 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    This Offensive Line is going to be a total bust.

  94. 94 MattE said at 10:54 AM on August 14th, 2015:


  95. 95 ACViking said at 1:44 PM on August 14th, 2015:


    What’s the argument . . . in 100 words or less.

  96. 96 LongDing said at 2:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    One offensive lineman drafted in last three years. Fired all-pro Mathis. Fired former all pro Herremans. Did not sign any notable FA OL. Best OLinemane has had two achille tendon tears.

  97. 97 ACViking said at 2:07 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    LD . . . fair enough. And you may be right.

    Appreciate the response.

  98. 98 MattE said at 2:26 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    tell em’ what you really feel lol.

  99. 99 Avery Greene said at 2:06 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    ACV – not worth the trouble.

  100. 100 Corry said at 10:48 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Birds announced their “unofficial” depth chart and listed all 4 guys as the starter at RG. They’re going to look ridiculous all crammed in between Peters and Kelce (I kid, I kid).

  101. 101 Ark87 said at 11:58 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    are you kidding me, it’s a brilliant tactic, Belichickian!

  102. 102 James said at 11:59 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Tobin is listed the backup to Barbre which is slightly interesting because it makes sense as an insurance policy as a backup and his more natural position. The real RG competition may be Gardner/Moffit.

  103. 103 ACViking said at 1:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Birds announced their “unofficial” depth chart and listed all 4 guys as the starter at RG.

    Don’t know why the Eagles, and more teams, don’t do this for all positions without an entrenched starter.

    Certainly gums-up the media.

  104. 104 Pennguino said at 11:13 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Wasn’t Tobin the standout last year? IIRC he looked the part and played well during the preseason. But it was all LG. During the season when he played RG it was almost brutal. Some guys can’t switch sides. It might take him a year to switch if he can. He might be just a guy that is really right or left dominant.

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He played well at LG, when they moved him to RG he looked like crap

  106. 106 LongDing said at 11:27 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    If this team totally sucks. You remember me. When you are sitting there sulking and bewildered at how bad the team is. Remember me. Because in those moments when you are at your lowest – I will be at my highest. This team and this coach is a total bust.

  107. 107 LongDing said at 11:36 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    You see this Cowboys Offensive Line? Now THAT is an offensive line built through the draft over years. Not throwing away starters and hoping scrubs can come in and replace legitimate all pro starters. Ridiculous.

  108. 108 MattE said at 12:05 PM on August 14th, 2015:


  109. 109 LongDing said at 12:34 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Watch last night’s preseason game. That unit is freaking sick. Nothing at all to do with Demarco. Sorry

  110. 110 disqus57 said at 12:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    They’re sick? I guess that explains the 3.0 ypc in the game.

  111. 111 LongDing said at 1:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    THe starters only play the first quarter you moron. Watch the highlights.

  112. 112 disqus57 said at 1:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    First quarter stats: 7 carries for 14 yards. What’s your point?

  113. 113 b3nz0z said at 1:19 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    he didn’t watch. he’s just hoping we didn’t either

  114. 114 disqus57 said at 2:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I didn’t watch either, but ESPN has the full play-by-play posted.

  115. 115 MattE said at 2:21 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    watch your f*ckin mouth

  116. 116 Ryan Rambo said at 2:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    LOL@ Highlights

  117. 117 MattE said at 2:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:


  118. 118 MattE said at 2:25 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    you realize football is a team sport correct?

  119. 119 Avery Greene said at 1:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I almost responded because I thought it was ridiculous. Then I saw who posted it.

    BTW – they have to replace close to 500 carries from Murray from last year. Not one back on the team can carry the load that much. I don’t even think with the stable of backs they have, that they’d be able to match the load Murray gave them.

    That team is in trouble.

  120. 120 MattE said at 2:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    hopefully if i use short answers aggravate him enough that he offs himself

  121. 121 peteike said at 12:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    cowboy fan living in Philly, Hows the bandwagon, crowded on there aint it. Another RB down, ridiculous

  122. 122 LongDing said at 12:34 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Eagles fan for life. Chip isn’t running this organization right. Til he is gone I am just floating.

  123. 123 b3nz0z said at 1:19 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    = fair weather; bandwagon; frontrunner

  124. 124 LongDing said at 1:41 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Not at all. Just don’t like Chip Kelly. I think he is a farce. I guess we will see.

  125. 125 MattE said at 2:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    no you definitely sound fair weather, go put that Miami Heat Jersey back on.

  126. 126 MattE said at 2:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    floating = flaking = not welcome here.

  127. 127 b3nz0z said at 1:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

  128. 128 botto said at 1:09 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    dingdong that line was so amazing they managed to score 7 points against SD.
    do you think the eagles will score only 7 points in a preseason game with chip coaching? go back to texas , they have good facilities there for you

  129. 129 b3nz0z said at 1:18 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    ding dong forgot we split the series

  130. 130 MattE said at 2:21 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    you’re ridiculous

  131. 131 peteike said at 11:45 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    I dont want SB ever taking off and running. I can already see the late hit on the slide just because…..take the penalty to take him out mentality. I get the feeling defenses will be gunning for him unfortunately.

  132. 132 Nailed it! said at 11:58 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    Sammy B not playing Sunday. I hate that he is not playing. Really would like at least one series of this game for him, sounds like Jimmy was correct in his view that Bradford is not quite ready to face a live rush.

    Ertz out all preseason w/ “core muscle injury” and Chip mentioned the Eagles doctor wanted to “clean it up” sounds like he may need sports hernia surgery ala Kelce last year… 6-8 week healing period. Really hope it does not come to that.

  133. 133 James said at 12:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Oh man. I hope he doesnt sit all preseason then ends up having to get surgery the first regular season game. Might as well get surgery now if its lingering.

  134. 134 anon said at 12:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    even better for my fantasy sleeper. sucks for him though

  135. 135 xmbk said at 12:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Sucks for the team, too.

  136. 136 Avery Greene said at 12:29 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Not sure, maybe they want to protect him as long as possible. It is just the 1st preseason game. I’d be worried if they held him out against the Ravens on Saturday since they are practicing with them this week.

  137. 137 Headlines: Will Kiko Alonso Play On Sunday? | We Only Live Once said at 11:58 AM on August 14th, 2015:

    […] Is Andre Gardner in the lead for the starting RG job? […]

  138. 138 anon said at 12:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    “You’d think team would be eager to see their new QB in game action ASAP. Unless, you know, they don’t think he’s ready to face NFL pass rush” jimmy k

  139. 139 Joe Minx said at 12:32 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Or they just don’t feel like it’s the smart thing to expose him to a meaningless 8-10 snaps in the first preseason game.

    Clown media starting s*** already.

  140. 140 TypicalDouche said at 12:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    My thoughts exactly. I see him playing maybe 2 drives in the 2nd preseason game then an entire quarter the 3rd game before sitting out the 4th and starting week 1 of the season.

  141. 141 peteike said at 12:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    my thoughts also, as long as they dont limit him too much in the following preseason games Im fine with him missing the first one. Really nothing to see here but that wont stop all the nonsense

  142. 142 ACViking said at 1:40 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Is the question/statement by Kempski not a fair one?

    Since neither he nor anyone on this blog has access to the facts.

  143. 143 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:19 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Of course, it’s fair, just like about everything else Jimmy has written on the Eagles. Maybe it’s a preseason thing that everyone has to think we’re some kind of juggernaut, despite the massive uncertainty at so many positions. “Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth.”* Once the season starts and reality begins to show itself, maybe there will be a bit more balance in the comments. *I know I am misusing this quote, but I love it too much not to use it.

  144. 144 GEAGLE said at 2:29 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Typically philly crap….

  145. 145 botto said at 12:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    no reason to start sam in this game, let the o-line get it together more first.
    it would just be for show anyway really…
    he’ll be eating wings on the bench with Sancho after the first.

  146. 146 Patrick said at 1:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    No reason to play, meaning less snaps, not ready for NFL passrush etc, the points you see in this thread, on twitter and the likes. I get that they’re not just excuses but actual arguments, that it isn’t the end of the world if Bradford doesn’t play, and maybe its just my own personal issue of it confirming my fears about Bradford.

    But its fucking telling that our starting QB can’t handle the going full speed in training camp, can’t handle playing a full pre-season. If Brady or Rodgers are banged up and they dont play the first pre-season game, OK, I get that. But the most injury-prone player in the NFL will miss his first opportunity to play… Not doing much to prove the injury rep wrong.

    Even if Bradford plays well this year and stays injury free, theres still no freaking way i’m paying him big money to tear his ACL again the first OTA before the 2016 season.

  147. 147 b3nz0z said at 1:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    the chances of a re-tear, according to the medical experts, is pretty freaking low.

  148. 148 Patrick said at 1:29 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    MCL then. Or the other knee. Maybe his elbow or shoulder.

  149. 149 b3nz0z said at 1:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    sure! heck maybe the planet will explode right under him or angels will drag him away during a game-winning drive.

  150. 150 Patrick said at 1:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    When it comes to Bradford injuries, I wouldn’t be surprised. Homie can’t catch a break. Maybe he’ll get an injury never seen in the NFL before.

    I’d still bet a good amount on SB tearing his ACL again sometime in his career.

  151. 151 botto said at 1:52 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    well if you know already he’s getting injured why do you need him to play 8 snaps in the 1st preseason game?
    who cares.
    sounds like you think sanchez needs the reps since he’ll be the qb for the year

  152. 152 Patrick said at 2:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The Sanchize needs talent, not snaps.

  153. 153 botto said at 2:05 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    guy was sick on thanksgiving, could’ve ruined the day, but made it instead

  154. 154 botto said at 1:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    yeah I get it, we all want to see Bradford out there looking tough.
    even healthy, he has to be eased in.
    and this game is not about who will be the starting QB don’t forget, we know who will start, its about the o-line and the defense and the young kids.

  155. 155 Patrick said at 1:28 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Lets not pretend like playing in the first pre-season game isn’t easing him in.

    Also, “fuck” the OL, the defense and the kids. I love our team. I cannot wait to see Chips offense in action. I cannot wait to see our young studs go stop opponents. I really am exited about seeing how good we are.

    But the simple fact is that if you dont have a QB, you’re not winning the Super Bowl, at least unless the rest of your team is historically good. Mark Sanchez sure as shit isn’t the QB who will win us that trophy.

    I do get, it probably does matter if Bradford plays. I’d even make the argument that most of the sure starters could play the majority of that 3rd game, and nothing else and be good to go. They’ll be ready.

    I just find it a perfect chapter in the story that is Sam Bradfords career, that the first opportunity to actually play for his new team, he is injured. Not bad, not good, not a kicker, Injured, because thats his career so far. The one word to describe Bradfords NFL career is injuries.

  156. 156 EagleNebula said at 10:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

  157. 157 Nailed it! said at 1:27 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Ertz will have a procedure on a minor groin tear, teammates say. Not as serious as what Jason Kelce went through last season.— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) August 14, 2015

  158. 158 ACViking said at 1:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Take that to the bank . . . along with all the other pre-season injury-related info coming out of Eagles camp.

    Not criticizing the Eagles.

    Just invoking caveat emptor.

  159. 159 A_T_G said at 1:53 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Well, that sucks. Hopefully the recovery doesn’t stretch too far into the season. Still, it will take time to get back to full speed.

  160. 160 peteike said at 2:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    “Sam Bradford is absolutely not 100%. Starter played Week 1 of the preseason the first 2 seasons under Chip” Kempski tweets

    Enh, hes healthy enough to play at least and really what do we know if hes 80 -100%. Id guess its more on SB than even a Dr at that point unless theres some level of movement they can gauge on his knee. Hes playing w/o brace. Ill go with Les here:

    “Yo, to people who really feel the urge to panic over something: The Ertz
    thing, right now, is a way bigger deal than the Bradford thing”

  161. 161 ACViking said at 2:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    nice work here.

  162. 162 Avery Greene said at 2:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I really think CK wants to get Matty and Timmy as many reps as possible. Give the 8-10 snaps to Sanchez and start evaluating the bottom of the roster. They pretty much have an idea of who’s starting, so no need to rush anything with them in the 1st preseason game.

    If he’s being held out Saturday or against the Packers, then I’m going to start being worried. He’s taken all the reps he can at practice, and if that’s not a good sign, then I don’t know what else we’re looking for.

  163. 163 peteike said at 2:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    agreed, Ill start to care if he isnt getting enough reps in next 2 games.

  164. 164 ACViking said at 2:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Could be. Interesting theory.

  165. 165 Joe Minx said at 2:34 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    They couldn’t say enough good about how Bradford looked when he was dropping dimes all over the place the last few days. But because Chip has decided it may not be the smartest thing to make him play 8 meaningless snaps in the first preseason game, all of a sudden “he is not 100% healthy!”

    And these hacks wonder why no one takes them seriously.

  166. 166 disqus57 said at 2:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    In fairness, it’s not all of a sudden. I don’t know if he’s right, but Kempski has been saying this all week.

  167. 167 anon said at 2:41 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He could not be 100% healthy to the point that you’re ready to risk your season w/ him getting hit in a preseason game. I think that’s understandable. I’d also hope he doesn’t play much against the ravens as well

  168. 168 Joe Minx said at 3:34 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Jimmy has been Debbie Downer ever since the Mariota nonsense blew up in his face.

  169. 169 Jarock said at 4:13 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Disappointed, sure. Downer? I don’t see it. He’s been one of the few local guys who hasn’t been drinking the kool-aid.

  170. 170 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Way too much kool-aid around here lately.

  171. 171 JoeBlow said at 2:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    i was hoping he would appear in one game for a series or 2 and that’s it. No reason to have him out there for the first quarter of the first 3 preseason games, he gets enough reps in practice and there is still a whole month to go until the season starts

  172. 172 ACViking said at 2:11 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    AVERY GREENE . . .

    Great link the other day to Didinger’s story on the Pope – Jaws/Pisarcek story from 1980.

    New Orleans voodoo was too strong, unfortunately.

  173. 173 MattE said at 2:23 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    we have a competition at Guard, why put Bradford behind that right now, also 2 +2 =4.

  174. 174 GEAGLE said at 2:24 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Thankfully this Ertz injury isn’t said to be serious
    I assume this board is bitching and crying over Bradford, but I’m perfectly fine with him not playing… All week we been posting the 3 players we were looking forward to seeing in the preseason and you never saw Bradford on my list… Sure he needs to shake of rust and play against a live rush but so does every QB this time of year and it’s not uncommon to see teams sit their QB week 1 of preseason..

    Heck I certainly don’t HATE getting a look at our OL Sunday before we stick Bradford behind it next week in a live game situation.., let the OL get a game under its belt before we task them with protecting the Crowned Jewel of our franchise..
    Good news: I hear that Demarco Murray is feeling fantastic this offseason and this is all part of chips plan to give Murray a light load this summer. If we are going to complain that our new RB had 500 touches last year knowing the history, probably a good idea to lighten his summer load and not treat him as a normal back… Adam Caplin says Murray feels fantastic and this is all precautionary…
    It’s a long season, it’s not a horrible thing for chip to take precaution with his high risk high reward players..
    AP didn’t play all last year and he won’t play this preseason.. Actually AP hasn’t played a preseason game in 4 years..
    We have plenty of players we need took at on Sunday. No reason to get panties in a bunch over our coach taking injury prevention precautions

  175. 175 peteike said at 2:29 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    really, interesting about AP. I was arguing with token about the nonsense demarco story. Trying to make it out to be some huge issue for a RB to get up to speed. He needs some per new offense but if any position can get away with less I think its RB.

  176. 176 RobNE said at 2:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    you were arguing with Token? let me guess, he was taking the negative side of things.

  177. 177 peteike said at 2:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    haha of course. I actually dont mind he makes good points at times, just gets a bit much with the negative hyperbole thrown in too much.

  178. 178 Bert's Bells said at 2:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I recall Westbrook sitting out most of preseason a couple times. Maybe even 2007 when he was at his peak.

  179. 179 peteike said at 2:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    to be objective it is easier for a RB in a system they know to pull that off easier. I still dont think it will be too hard for a new RB to do it. Its also not like hes completely out of every practice and preseason game, its still early.

  180. 180 MattE said at 2:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    plus seeing R.Mathews will be interesting.

  181. 181 Media Mike said at 3:08 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    That is the primary guy that I’m ignoring all of the camp hype with. His only job in life has been to buddy fv(k people’s fantasy roster by being too much of a wuss to play a full season.

    I agree it’ll be interesting to see him. I’m just hoping we can get 16 (19 or 20!!!!!) successful games of 10 touch football out of him.

  182. 182 anon said at 3:06 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    plus he and SB have natural chemistry from college.

  183. 183 Media Mike said at 3:04 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Westbrook is a prime example of why all practice reps are BS for any veteran who already knows the system. I don’t think Westbrook and Runyan ever practiced on the same day during their entire concurrent tenure on the team.

  184. 184 GEAGLE said at 10:10 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    You lost me at “I was arguing with Token”..,……that’s like me playing basketball against a guy in a wheel chair….

  185. 185 mksp said at 2:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    “I assume this board is bitching and crying over Bradford”

    I see you’re in midseason form already.

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 2:41 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I see you are in my dick already? Can’t live without my nuts? Muah you groupie bitch !!!I LOL

  187. 187 mksp said at 3:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Spoken like the true uneducated Philly bro you are. Congrats man. I look forward to another season of you stealing beat writer tweets, pretending to have sources, mangling the english language beyond repair, and generally being one of the worst people on the planet.

  188. 188 botto said at 2:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    you know that’s true, people are really upset that we got Murray who had so many touches last season but then want him to get even more touches in preseason and practice?
    got to believe coach know what he’s doing

  189. 189 peteike said at 2:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I said same earlier today, the same fans who complain about the carry stats are the same ones who will complain hes not practicing enough. You cant even make this stuff up

  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 3:26 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    If we want to thumb our nose at history and take a RB who got so many touches last year, probably a good idea to treat him different then we would treat a normal RB…. murray is a workaholic, workout monster, extremely studious.. You don’t have to worry about him being ready in September, so probably a good idea to lighten his summer load and keep him fresh for the season…. AP hasn’t played a preseason game in like 4 years..
    As Far as Im concerned, Id rather not see Demarco, Sproles or Ryan Mathews in the preseason.. These are all veteran probowl type talent…. Do we really need to see them in the preseason? I hope none Of our big 3 RBs get more then 5 touches in a preseason game

  191. 191 anon said at 3:44 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    i’m actually more excited to see Sanchez torching defenses.

  192. 192 GEAGLE said at 6:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah man, to tell you the truth, I will probably enjoy watching Sanchez play Sunday more then I would enjoy Bradford… Because watching Bradford in meaningless games comes with an element of nervous fear every time pass rushers get near him..
    Subday I can enjoy Sanxhez in peace, without being a nervous wreck.. Chip said he won’t play much either but I do hope he gets a few drives.. From everything I heard he hasn’t had a GREAT Canp, and I have high hopes for Sanchez so I want to see him Play and try and get it going.. I have high hopes for Sanxhez know that he is in year 2, I expect him to play at a higher level then we saw last year.. Heck, not only should Sanchez have a better command of this offense then he had last year, but he didn’t exactly get to play behind a quality OL and a great run game last year… I’m curious to see what he looks like having built on year 1, while playing behind a better OL and a much better RUn Game… Considering Chip asked Sanchez to throw over 50 passes in a game, it’s probably safe to say that we didn’t see Sanchez with the compliments of a great run game… Curious to see what Sanchez looks like Sunday with our starting OL and Ryan Mathews, along with his man crush Pope Jordam beings u better then last year… Hype to see Sanchez Sunday
    I’m not a Barkley or Tebow fan but they interest me much more then the typical QBs you see in the second half of a preseason game.. And I like that Tebow and Barklwy have to play with pressure of knowing that the loser of that battle will get waived..
    Barkley is supposed to show significant growth now that he is in year 3 of the same offense and Tebow running around in q Chip Kelly’offense is way more interesting then watching Kafka or Koy detmer in the second half..

  193. 193 anon said at 6:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Agree, I mean I think Sanchez is going to crush it, personally, think I he knows the offense better and think his arm is better as well, taking more chances down the field, problem is no one is going to look good next to Bradford, especially when playing in shorts.
    But Sanchez can run the offense lightening fast, and that’s fun to watch. Also want to see how Chip uses Tebow, and whether we always go for it in 2pt conversions

  194. 194 Avery Greene said at 2:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think they can do it under the guise of precautionary, but didn’t Rothlisberger sit Sunday? 8-10 snaps is not a lot and they know he’s the starter. Sanchez can get those and you have roughly (hoping) 3.5 quarters left to see Barkley and Tebow.

    They’ve already said he’s playing Saturday. Bradford has taken all the snaps he can in practice. He’s not limping. His throws look good. I’m not worried. Haven’t seen anything that makes me worry, but that could change if something happens like he doesn’t play Saturday, or he starts wearing a brace again, or he starts limping.

    Missing 8-10 snaps in a meaningless game doesn’t have me worried.

  195. 195 DJH said at 3:32 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Brees sat too.

  196. 196 GermanEagle said at 2:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    What’s up chaps

    It’s been a while!!

    Anybody know if the Eagles 1st preseason game will be on NFL Network this Sunday!

    Cheers GE

  197. 197 peteike said at 2:46 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    yup it is, I set my DVR already

  198. 198 GermanEagle said at 6:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Awesome. Thanks!

  199. 199 Avery Greene said at 2:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’ve been wondering where you went. Hope all is well!

  200. 200 GermanEagle said at 6:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Sort of. Apart from being separated from my family for over 10 weeks as my girl has been waiting for her visa. 🙁

  201. 201 Avery Greene said at 9:55 AM on August 17th, 2015:

    Went out of town this weekend and wanted to respond.

    Sorry to hear that dude, I hope that situation positively works itself out soon.

  202. 202 GermanEagle said at 2:52 PM on August 18th, 2015:

    Thanks, much appreciated.

  203. 203 Media Mike said at 3:01 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    About time you showed back up. I’ve been dying to ask you what teams I need to watch (besides Bayern Munich) with Fox Sports One announcing that Bundesliga coverage!

    I tried to go shopping for a team, but the best I could do based on the current top division is TSG Hoffenheim because they’re the closest top division team to Heidelberg, which is my favorite city in Germany that I visited.

    Any direction would be appreciated.

  204. 204 GermanEagle said at 6:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:


    Hoffenheim?! Seriously? That’s the team my team 1860 Munich kicked out in the DFB Pokal last week!! 😉

  205. 205 Media Mike said at 7:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Glad your squad won! I’m a total rookie in the league, so I’m trying to find a squad. I don’t care if they suck or not, I’m just not trying to ride Bayern Munich.

  206. 206 GermanEagle said at 8:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    It’s sometimes hard to not ride on a 5-0 victory on the season opener. But then again they are all fair weather fans. Like the cowboys.

  207. 207 botto said at 3:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    you missed a lot turns out the eagles suck now and the qb is a bum along with the rb

  208. 208 GermanEagle said at 6:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Lol. We didn’t sign Geno Smith, did we?!

  209. 209 anon said at 6:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Worse, Tebow’s starting

  210. 210 GermanEagle said at 7:14 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    God bless you!

  211. 211 A_T_G said at 2:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Bradford was dropping dimes all over the field, so Chip decided he doesn’t need a quarter. Makes cents to me.

  212. 212 myartz04 said at 2:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:


  213. 213 Media Mike said at 2:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m happy to see Bradford sit a game as long as he gets 4+ quarters between the 2nd and 3rd games. We don’t need to go all Todd Hayley and get our whole squad injured in double meaningless games.

  214. 214 Avery Greene said at 2:57 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    1 quarter vs Ravens, 2 vs Packers, and 0 vs Jets.

  215. 215 Media Mike said at 2:58 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’d like 2 and 2.5 and 0, but I can deal with your total.

  216. 216 botto said at 3:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    damn fine work

  217. 217 76mustang said at 3:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Dollars to donuts you’re a pound wise on this one.

  218. 218 myartz04 said at 3:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m not that concerned with keeping Bradford out of the game. Look around the league, the starters are getting one series and maybe 4 or 5 throws. That’s borderline pointless. I don’t think this has anything to do with how healthy he is as I believe he is 100%, but has to do with getting him hurt with a new injury over a meaningless series. He has nothing to gain by playing and throwing a couple bubble screens and then being done. Next week he will have the opportunity to play a quarter (maybe more?), to knock of some of the NFL rust.

  219. 219 ACViking said at 3:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    What’s happened to BALOOPHI . . .

    Anyone know?

  220. 220 Media Mike said at 3:06 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    We’re having a “first day of school” type moment and hoping our friends didn’t move away or change schools over the summer.

  221. 221 anon said at 3:08 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Maybe some people are disciplined enough to only crowd the message boards in season

  222. 222 Media Mike said at 3:09 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Didn’t you see the memo? EVERY day is “in-season!”

  223. 223 ACViking said at 3:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    never saw BALOOPHI as a virtual elephant in the room.

  224. 224 A_T_G said at 3:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I am sure when we truly need him, he will appear.

  225. 225 Jarock said at 3:30 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I know we only have the one season ending injury so far, but is anyone else getting nervous about the number of people already out with dings and dents? Ertz out for pre-season now, Demarco has been extremely limited in practice, Kiko still hasn’t returned from his concussion . . .

    Man, I hope I’m just being paranoid.

  226. 226 anon said at 3:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’d worry about Ertz returning, I don’t think we’ll se much Kiko, which is ok, he’s a stud, I think Demarco is just precautionary, like with Sammy B. Ertz was getting dinged every day in practice so not surprised he got hurt, sucks though

  227. 227 Jarock said at 4:01 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Confident we’ll get Ertz back, but the injury pretty much guarantees Celek remains the starter. I’m not saying Kiko’s not a great talent, but frankly feel the coaching staff is wrong to automatically place him above Kendricks. For that matter, still baffled by their insistence of starting Demeco over him. Too many brittle players signed this season for me to be calm about the number of players who can’t practice for one reason or another.

  228. 228 anon said at 4:04 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    brittle players, but we have a lot of them. I think Kiko, Meco and Kendricks will rotate, hopefully we’ll have a CB/DB rotation, so that guys stay fresh through the season

  229. 229 Avery Greene said at 4:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Injuries in preseason happen all the time. Ask the Texans how they feel going into the season without Foster. Washington doesn’t have any TEs left, and Dallas has injuries all thru the RBs.

  230. 230 Jarock said at 4:18 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    True, but we haven’t played a game yet and Kelly doesn’t have them tackle during practice. It’s not quite flag football, but I refuse to be an ostrich on Kelly’s insistence that brittle players are good risks.

  231. 231 Tumtum said at 4:23 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Agree with you about brittle players, but as I just mentioned those brittle guys seem to be doing okay.

  232. 232 Tumtum said at 4:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Welcome to the NFL man. I would say we have gotten through this camp relatively healthy. 4 pre-season games to go and we are off to the races.

    Names we don’t see are Walter Thurmond, Sam Bradford, Demeco Ryans, or Alonso (for anything other than what it appears is a minor concussion). That is surprising and promising.

  233. 233 Jarock said at 4:24 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Thurmond makes it more than four games and I’ll need to eat my hat. Add Demarco to your list as prior to last season, he tended to be nicked a lot.

  234. 234 Tumtum said at 6:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Oh yes he is certainly on there. I do think hey will be healthier than McCoy this year though. So I can live with that. Ryan Mathews has been even worse than Murray as well.

  235. 235 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:11 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    You will eat your hat….

  236. 236 Jarock said at 7:47 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Going all the way back to college, Thurmond battled injuries in 2008. Tore three knee ligaments in 2009. Broke a leg in 2011. Tore his pec in 2014. There’s injury prone, then there’s made of glass. Guess which Thurmond appears to be?

  237. 237 Joe Minx said at 3:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Ertz had surgery to correct core muscle injury, team said. Performed by Dr. Meyers. Source said for partial groin tear, not sports hernia.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) August 14, 2015

  238. 238 GEAGLE said at 3:51 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    dr. Myers is local, but the Eagles have trusted him with plenty of these surgeries.l. He operated on a KELCE sports hernia, operated on McNabb
    Hopefully it doesn’t cost him any regular season games.,

    Skins have 3 Injured TE’s.. Blocking TE Logan Paulson INJURED, what’s his name, the Recieving TE broke his ankle yesterday… And Jordan Reed is also banged up as usual.
    The Cowboys have 3 injured RBs
    So fair what did we lose? A #4 OLB and a 6th round rookie Cornwr? Two players who have NEVER played an NFL snap? Small potatoes compared to injures most teams suffer… Our most serious injury is Ertz possibly missing a game or two… If only every summer our injuries would be like this year

  239. 239 Tumtum said at 4:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Partial groin tear. Will be feeling that all season at the very least.

  240. 240 ACViking said at 4:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Are you sure . . .

    I mean, Kelly said he’ll be fine for the regular season.

  241. 241 Jarock said at 4:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Love him as a coach. Don’t believe a word out of his mouth when it comes to health of players 🙂

  242. 242 ACViking said at 4:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:


    Which is why Kelly’s statement about Bradford should be taken skeptically.

  243. 243 OregonDucker said at 6:13 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Ahhh shucks AC….. Sam is not ready.

  244. 244 Tumtum said at 4:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    If I had to guess I would say it is going to require lots of cold tub, pre-game and post-game stretching all year. He should be able to get through most games without feeling it awfully, but it will be an issue.

    I am no doctor but I pulled my groin a couple of seasons ago and had to stretch the hell out of it to play flag football.

    So no I am not 100% positive but I would bet lots of cash on it.
    As a side note it only really hurt when trying to be explosive. So pass blocking should be a peace of cake :D.

  245. 245 Bert's Bells said at 4:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Tend to agree with you (not knowing anything about the reality of Ertz’ condition).

    A hernia correction is generally a much smoother recovery than a groin tear.

  246. 246 anon said at 4:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Foster is out 8 games w/ a groin tear

  247. 247 GEAGLE said at 4:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’d be surprised if he misses any game time, because by week 1’he will be able to play thru the pain, actually he won’t even feel it during the game. The problem is he won’t give it the time to heal so he probably will have to deal with the pain for the rest of the season,.. Worst case scenario he misses 2 games… If it’s a “Partial” tear he won’t miss much more then that… Kelce’s was much worse..

  248. 248 GEAGLE said at 4:33 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    it depends…. The problem is that by the season opener, if Ertz isn’t healed yet, by the he willl probably be able to play thru it, so he will have to decide if he wants to sit out for a few weeks and really let it heal, or he can choose to play thru it which is what I always did and I ended up having to deal with the injury for two years…because you can play thru the pain, it’s going to be Hard for Ertz to sit out as long as It takes To be fully healed.. So it’s probably likely that he will come back too soon. Play thru the pain, which means he will have to play thru It all year… ITS a painful, annoying injury, but when the game starts you don’t even feel it, it’s the rest of the time that he has to live thru the pain

  249. 249 anon said at 4:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    chip’s not a fan of resting it once the Drs say you can go

  250. 250 Jarock said at 4:36 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Chip seems to be contradicting himself then. Why sit Bradford if the docs say he’s ok ;-P

  251. 251 GEAGLE said at 4:47 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Doubt it matters….Ertz is probably not going to want to miss game time…that’s really the problem with the injury, you can play thru it, so athletes typically womt sit out as long as it takes to be healed and pain free,, which is fine for us because it shouldmt cost Ertz much game time if any, but it sucks for him because he is going to play on it which will cause it to linger the rest Of the year…..
    I played on it for like 2 years, playing thru It is why it hampered me for that long. But it’s too easy to play thru, so it’s hard to sit out of games.. Actually it probably bothers you more when you aren’t playing, then it does when you are playing. Adrenaline is a helluva Drug….
    But there is a pretty wide Range of what “partial tear” can mean, so without his medical info, it’s hard for us to have a real discussion of exactly WHAT this injury means in terms of how it will effect us..
    My understanding is Kelce’s injury was much more signifcant

  252. 252 wee2424 said at 5:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think he is to competitive to sit out if he is physically able to play.

  253. 253 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I like that bradford wants to play and ISNT too happy with chips decision.. what Matters is that Bradford CAN play, not whether he actually plays or doesn’t…

    Actually, if we Want to “Ease” SAM back into the game, it’s not a terrible idea to have Bradfiord full participant in training Camp Practice, with the next step being to face another teams defense in joint practice with the Ravens, and then expose him to his first LIVE game action against the Ravens Dfense in the preseason,,.. Heck, not a terrible idea to let our OL get some game action before we ask them to protect such an important player… I can see value in taking a look at our OL Sunday before we stick Bradford behind them..
    I get that as fans we look forward to seeing guys in the preseasons, but the preseason is NOT for our entertainment. the Preseason is for getting our boys ready to play in September. That’s the ONLY purpose of football in August… If we kick off against Atlanta and guys like Bradford and Murray ARENT looking like they are ready to play, then we can complain about how chip treated them during the preseason…..mIf Chip feels that we are better off easing Bradford in, giving him another week of practice against the Ravens defense before we expose him to live action, what’s the problem?
    I’m Anxipus to see our QB like everyone, but whats important is getting our team ready for september…somehow I don’t the 10 to 15 snaps he would have played on Sunday will make that big of a difference in his preperation for September….. With that said, I do think it’s important that he does see live action in the preseason… If Bradfiord plays two drives in game 2, and the first half of Game 3, I’ll be happy….. IF SAM is healthy and they hold him out of game 2, then I would have a problem … But missing game 1 is small potatoes. No reason for the city to get upset about our coach trying to protect players health…

  254. 254 Jarock said at 3:48 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I agree with your assessment that pre-season games are more about coach evaluation and ensuring preparedness, but I can’t help thinking that this is a statement by the coaching staff that they do not truly believe Sam’s ready. Given how long it has been since he was injured, how can we not be concerned? If Bradford was our starter last season and had performed well, I’d agree about game one. Since Bradford has never done jack at the pro level, I do not share your optimism.

  255. 255 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    For me, this isn’t even a slight concern… I’m way more concerned with what happens NEXT.. If SAM sits this game out, practices all week against the Raves, plays 2 drives in game 2, then plays the first half of game 3, no harm, no foul… But if we sit him out of game 2, then I would be extremely concerned…

  256. 256 Avery Greene said at 4:23 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Me too. He might get a whole quarter game 2? Not sure, but seems legitimately possible.

  257. 257 GEAGLE said at 5:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Maybe… chip always did things His way,.
    While it sucks that we have to wait to see the most Talemted passer I ever had the pleasure to root for, in terms of Easing him back into action, I can see a case for Not Playing him in game 1….
    He has Only beenA full go in practice for us since camp started a little over a week ago… Sitting him put game 1 means not only another week of practice before we risk him in a game, but this way he gets to practice against a different Defemse this week, before we expose him to an opposing defense in Live action..
    Let him get different looks from a Ravens defense in Practice this week. let him practice a few days against an opposing defense that doesn’t care about him remaining healthy….. These days it’s hard enough to keep your starting QB Healyhy for 16 games, I WILL NEVER. I repeat NEVER complain about us not risking our players in the preseason. I will NEVER complaim about our coaches trying to take injury prevention precautions.
    I’m Nervous enough about keeping Bradford healthy for 16 games.. I’m going to enjoy week 1 of the preseason without being a nervous wreck, holding my breath that Bradford dpesmt get hurt…

    I’lol tell you this, If I was a Paclers fan, I would be FURIOUS that our HEADCoach let Aaron Rodgers play an entire quarter and attempt 20 passes in the first preseason games.. A few plays, he was like inches away from taking punishing hits from Chandler Jones…I would be calling for chip to be fired today if he did what McCarthy did last night…
    I will be a nervous wreck as it is during the dress Rehersal 3rd preseason game where SAM has to play the entire first half, but I understand that it’s neccessary to get the offense ready to go… I would probably play SAM on Sumday if it were up to me, but I have NO problem sitting him out of game 1.. I can see a good case for sitting him, and I see a good case for playing him.. Either way, I don’t think its a big deal that shluld upset us

  258. 258 wee2424 said at 5:29 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m not sure why people say he hasn’t done anything in the NFL. He set a record or two his rookie year and in 2013 he had Pro Bowl numbers before he got hurt.

  259. 259 botto said at 5:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    yeah people say that because they hate chip and can’t stand him making moves they didn’t approve of.

  260. 260 wee2424 said at 5:40 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think that’s some people, but I think the majority of it is people just speaking while not knowing the facts or refusing to look them up.

  261. 261 Jarock said at 7:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Nope. I love Chip the coach. Not so sold on Chip the GM. Bradford’s overall stats are mediocre. Yes, he set rookie records and his team still lost. He has an overall losing record and a career completion % of 58.6. His ‘pro bowl’ season it was 60.7. More damning, his avg yards per pass has never been above 7. Yes, I agree it is in part due to the crappy team that he played for, but it’s also the profile of a QB who did not elevate his team. Doesn’t mean he’s not incredibly talented. So were Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell. I don’t have an issue with taking a flyer on Bradford, but we drastically overpaid.

  262. 262 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:59 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He picked up volume stats, the ones achieved by doing something poorly over and over again. People who are highly paid 1st round picks tend to get those because of the sunk cost fallacy. The backups often played as well or better when he got injured.

  263. 263 GEAGLE said at 4:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    How many RBs do we have on the Roster? Just 5? Marco, Mathews, Sprolez, Barner and Mosert? Am I missing anyone? THIS IS A PROBLEM for me!!!
    I do NOT want to see Marco, Mathews or Sproles in the preseason…Sproles knows this offense as a RB and WR,no reason to risk him in Preseason… demarco is a workout monster, very studious, he will be ready to roll in September, no need to risk him… Mathews is another pro bowl, franchose back, type veteran RB, no reason to expose him to hits in the preseason… I expect all 3 to be a big part of our pffense so Id rather not expose them to meaningless hits…
    if Barner and !Mostert can’t Handle the entire workload, then Give GJ KINNEY snaps at RB,… We could also give Burton RB snaps, but with Ertz out. The Athletic Burton will have to fill Ertz role.
    Every week that passes, more and more I feel like GJ KINNEY has a better shot to make the roster then we think.. His value is his versatility. So might as well put that on display, give him RB snaps to not risk any of our veteran 3 headed Monster… I do NOT root for KINNEY making the roster, I have NEVER seen him play anything but QB so I have no clue what he can do at WR, RB, ST but I can’t shake this gut feeling that he could sneak on to the Roster…. As long as our Coach comtinues to Prioritize Versatility and ST play when selecting our Backups, I feel like KINNEY might have a better shot then we think. Unless chip wants to start dressing 3 QBs on game day…
    I want to go into the season with 3 healthy, Scary RB weapons, where as the Cowboys wilI go into the season with Randle. McFadden and GUs all banged up with injuries….. Starting a money pool. Pick the day where Jerruh gives in and signs Ray Rice 😉

  264. 264 Jarock said at 4:28 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Didn’t we sign that kid out of Villanova? Don’t expect him to even make the practice squad, but if he hasn’t been cut, I’d expect him to get carries.

  265. 265 Avery Greene said at 4:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I so want Mostert to work out, I love speed. Don’t know if he has the requisite skills CK is looking for, but think if he can figure out special teams he can be a terror.

  266. 266 peteike said at 4:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    ya me too. They can play Sproles and RM in first qtr, then Mostert and Barner rest of the way which should show us plenty. I dont recall Sproles being injured, seems like a rock. May have to limit RM though ha

  267. 267 anon said at 4:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    should bring henry josey back to cut up defenses.

  268. 268 wee2424 said at 5:26 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Did the Colts release him? I liked him but I liked what we got in return even more.

  269. 269 Media Mike said at 4:51 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    And better than Barner.

  270. 270 wee2424 said at 5:23 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    From what I have heard he is fluid with catching the football so that is something Chip likes.

  271. 271 botto said at 5:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    he sounds like the young version of sproles

  272. 272 GEAGLE said at 5:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I not very familiar with him, but it’s going to be extremely hard for him to make this roster… I don’t think it completely out of the question that we keep 4 RBs, Chip said he would have Kept Polk as a 4th If he didn’t ask to be traded so I assume it’s not impossible for chip to keep 4 RBs… But Mostert IMO will have a very difficult time beating out Kenjon Barner for a roster spot.. I’m not a fan of Barner AT ALL, but I hear RAVE reviews about his ST play, and his ST versatility.. not only can he return kicks, but he can also be a gunner, and few other ST roles. And it sounds like chip values his ST versatility
    Personally I only want to keep the 3 veteran RB… But i don’t think we can rule out keeping 4 RBs, but as stacked as we are, Mostert should be happy to make our Practice squad….

  273. 273 OregonDucker said at 6:21 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Mostert is a Sproles type possibility. We will see when he gets hit, how he responds. Chip wants this type of player for mis-matches and change-ups. Personally, I think Mostert is going to shine. The kid has an attitude when he runs. I call it “the runt syndrome” – and it is a powerful force. OR, if you will, call it a DT syndrome – D’Anthony Thomas for the uninformed.

  274. 274 Nailed it! said at 4:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Kevin Monangai or something is here too.

  275. 275 GEAGLE said at 5:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Nice.. So we have 6 RBs on the roster..
    I really don’t want our RBs taking hits in the preseason. I do think it’s important that the offense play together during the dress Rehersal game 3, so I would give Marco, and mathews a few carries just to get their beak wet running out of shotgun in live game action…. But seriously I don’t want Marco or Mathews carrying the ball more then 7 times during the entire preseason.. We can count on Murray to be ready, he is a Pro’s Pro.. No reason to risk them

    Mostert, Barner, Monangai hopefully will get 98% of the preseason carries.. And you can give KINNEY a few snaps at RB if you want to really show off his versatility..
    I am NOT a GJ KINNEY fan, I won’t complain if they cut him today… With that said, I can’t shake this Gut feeling That he could make this roster
    Everything we have seen from Kelly says that he is dead serious about valuing versatility and ST play when selecting our Backups and KINNEY is happy to play ST, and I doubt we have a player more versatile then a guy who can line up at WR, or RB. And Oh BTW, he happens to know chips offense inside out giving us an Emergency QB much better then last two seasons when a TE(James Casey) or WR (Brad smith) where counted on to be our #3 QB on game day..,
    But the Real Key for GJ is he NEEDS to PROVE that he is one of the best 10 special teams players at training camp… I heard good things about him as a ST player, but I really have No clue how to rank him in terms of our ST depth chart…and it’s really not easy to make ST on THIS Roster. We have some real STUDS:
    1) Captain Gos (Maragos)
    2) Psycho Braman
    3) Tutu is said to be one of the best St players league wide
    4) Burton was Fantasto for us last year
    5) Prosnski was a stud.. We already had an awesome ST. For him to get picked up during the season and get a spot on what a.reasy was a good ST, and even managed to stand out tells you just how good he is at ST

    I don’t know that you can,find too many teams league wide that have 5 ST players better then those 5 names… And we have plenty of other quality ST players. I assume jordan Hicks, ROWE will contribute with their athleticism…Kenjon Barner is said To be a versatile ST player.. I know that Fipp coached Nolan Carroll on ST in Miami, and I think Nolan could end up being Boykins replacement on punt coverage.. Couplin is said to be a nice ST player… And chip has also used starters in the past on ST like Jenkins, cary, BG
    We are going to have a BIG TIME year on ST again… I HAVE NO CLUE how KINNEY ranks On our ST depth chart, but as good as our ST players are, if KINNEY makes the roster, I assume he will have earned it,.

  276. 276 wee2424 said at 5:25 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    It’s possible we may see Huff in the backfield a little bit. Monangai like Nailed it said below is also currently on the team so that is 6.

  277. 277 RogerPodacter said at 5:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    sad news for all fans of those crazy gifs we get a ton of during the season:
    (maybe this belongs more on BGN than here…)

  278. 278 BobSmith77 said at 5:23 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Time for the complete annual overkill about the first official depth chart and upcoming preseason game.

  279. 279 anon said at 5:57 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m glad we aren’t facing the Colts during the regular season, Luck + Gore + AJ + TY “mo money” Hilton (rosenhaus), + T Cole + Henry Josey, they might get a ring for sure.

  280. 280 GEAGLE said at 6:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I dunno., that defense isn’t where it needs to be yet… Although the top AFC teams really don’t have the best defenses this year,,, teams like the Bills and Jets have the top defenses in the AFC..
    Think the Colts will have a hard time against the Patriots… the Pats Front 7 can make life harder on Luck then the Colts front 7 does against the Pats offense… of course,
    Injuries could change that., if Gronk got hurt, Colts probably would become the favorite

  281. 281 Jarock said at 7:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’ll believe the Colts can stop the Pats offense when I see it. Pats have owned the Colts of late. Deflategate aside, Pats would have won that game if they’d inflated all of the balls to 20lbs of pressure.

  282. 282 OregonDucker said at 6:16 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The Eagles would DESTROY the Colts in regular season. You now have a complete Chip team. The NFL should be on notice.

  283. 283 Insomniac said at 6:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I know you love Chip and all but lets wait until we actually play them.

  284. 284 OregonDucker said at 6:39 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Fair comment, and I agree. The proof is in the performance and not the hype. But, for me, it’s deju vu all over again.

  285. 285 Tumtum said at 6:48 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    You would go so far to say *complete?*

  286. 286 OregonDucker said at 6:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yep, with a healthy Bradford and Kiko you are ready. Believe me, this team will be criticized for the lack of 60+ point games – i.e. for showing mercy to the Skins and their kin. My hope is that they put a 60 on the Cowgirls. The Eagles need to eat their souls and sheet their dreams.

  287. 287 GEAGLE said at 10:03 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    Ducker, For a somewhat new Eagles fan. I love how quickily your hatred for the Cowboys has grown…. You are Officially an eagle fan… Welcome brother.

  288. 288 botto said at 7:04 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I like this kind of attitude.
    that attitude is hard to come by for us!
    way to go keep it up

  289. 289 RobNE said at 6:19 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    If the pats run for 200 each time against them what would we do?

  290. 290 Tumtum said at 6:46 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Too old.

  291. 291 botto said at 7:07 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    those are some old timers you are talking about there.
    gore? aj? tcole (the man!)?
    nah they got nuthin comin

  292. 292 anon said at 7:24 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The sad thing is I think all those old times are younger than me

  293. 293 botto said at 8:09 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    ha me too…

  294. 294 GEAGLE said at 6:04 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Groin Surgeon Dr Neyers told Chip Kelly that Ertz will likely miss a “couple of weeks and thinks he will be fine by the opener”

    “The biggest thing for us in this situation is that it’s something that we wanted to get cleaned up. So the reps weren’t really important. I think in the long term he’s going to be a lot better for it.. We just wanted to get it out of the way”-Chip
    Having experience with this annoying injury and from the sound of it, seems like Zack Ertz could play Sunday if he really wanted to and that this is more of a prevention precaution then a necessity…. If he still has time to get this Taken care of and still be ready for the opener, it makes sense to take care of

  295. 295 OregonDucker said at 6:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    It was a minor tear. No worry, he’s gonna ball come Game 1.

  296. 296 Media Mike said at 7:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He needs to “ball” with about 70% of the snaps this year. I’m tired of seing Ertz’s stats held down by the 5 million dollar clown Celek and his 32-340-1 garbage stat line. How the F is that winning people any cash?

  297. 297 anon said at 7:24 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    funny b/c it’s too true

  298. 298 Media Mike said at 7:25 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah. Ertz was supposed to “break out” last year. All that happened last year was his breaking people’s wallets.

  299. 299 Tumtum said at 10:05 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Blame Ertz not Celek. He hindered my fantasy season too.

  300. 300 TypicalDouche said at 7:33 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    So Celek is a clown soley because Ertz cannot overtake him in the blocking category? That’s a little stong brother. Celek has been the upmost professional since hes been an Eagle. It shouldn’t take Ertz over 2 years to become the adequate blocker Chip desires. I put the blame more on Ertz then Celek.

  301. 301 Media Mike said at 7:34 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m not paying $5 mil for a 32-340-1 stat line.

  302. 302 TypicalDouche said at 7:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I get what you’re saying but nonetheless how long can it take for Ertz to be an adequate blocker?

  303. 303 anon said at 7:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Celek has a lot of old man strength / technique. And I think that was especially useful last year when our line was hot garbage.

  304. 304 Media Mike said at 7:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Can he play guard?

  305. 305 Greg Richards said at 7:49 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Old man? He’s 30.

  306. 306 Jarock said at 7:52 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    One of the better examples imho of Kelly and co. overvaluing less talented veterans with great work ethics. I love Celek, but that doesn’t mean I think he should start over Ertz. Same with Kendricks and Demeco or last season, Cole and Graham.

  307. 307 Greg Richards said at 7:53 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Celek is a great fit as a #2 blocking TE. I want him on the team. At about half the salary he’s scheduled to make.

  308. 308 Jarock said at 7:54 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I don’t care what they pay him, but I agree with the rest.

  309. 309 Media Mike said at 7:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Exactly. I’d go lower than half to be honest. Figure out what the Chiefs used to pay Jason Dunn and use the 2015 inflation adjusted value of that to pay Celek.

  310. 310 Media Mike said at 7:53 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    87th in yards per catch. SLOW and OLD. Cooper is worse however, that’s shameful.

  311. 311 Greg Richards said at 7:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah, but that is TE and WRs. How does he rank amongst TEs? I’ll figure it out.

  312. 312 Greg Richards said at 7:58 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Celek is 14th amongst TEs(I assume there is a minimum receptions threshold to be ranked). That’s respectable.

  313. 313 Media Mike said at 7:59 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He’s 24 spots lower than Ertz on that list overall. He’s also worse than Julius Thomas, Travis Kelce, Antonio Gates (who is on his last legs – except when “covered” by Kendricks), Niles Paul, Delaney Walker, Gronk, Fleener,

  314. 314 Tumtum said at 10:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Not sure if you watched any SD last year. He beasted all year.

  315. 315 Tumtum said at 10:01 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah dude I just turned 30. Ease up on the old man talk.

  316. 316 Media Mike said at 7:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He better hurry the F up and learn how.

  317. 317 TypicalDouche said at 7:46 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I agree, I cant keep wasting fantasy draft picks on him waiting to “break out”

  318. 318 anon said at 7:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I think he’s saying Ertz can clearly put up stats but he never played last year — very annoying for fantasy football, especially pay to play.

  319. 319 Media Mike said at 7:41 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    ding ding ding

  320. 320 Tumtum said at 9:59 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    “clown Celek”, that made me frown.

  321. 321 GEAGLE said at 10:01 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    I’m not concerned

  322. 322 A_T_G said at 9:13 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yep, the sooner the better. Two months ago would have been even better. I wonder how long he has been fighting through it.

  323. 323 GEAGLE said at 6:39 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Hope chip tells our media to piss off and holds Demarco out of Sunday’s game… He is a workhorse, he will be ready in September and playing him is not necessary…. Plus I really want to see the Oklohoma backfield boys Marco and Bradford make their eagle debut together, behind the Oklohama RT Lane aka the best RT in the NFL during the upcoming season..
    Murray and Bradford need to Make their eagle debut together… By the end of the year I wonder if we have more Duck fans or Oklohoma Fans
    Converting to eagle nation?

  324. 324 OregonDucker said at 7:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    My guess is more Okie fans will arrive. We Oregon fans are a very small minority. Okie fans are legion.

    Nonetheless, winning draws a crowd.

  325. 325 Media Mike said at 7:18 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    But much like Barry Switzer back in the day; Chip is also trying hang “half a hundred” on people.

  326. 326 OregonDucker said at 7:20 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    A Chip team is like a Swiss watch, it ticks off 60 at the right time.

  327. 327 Media Mike said at 7:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The right time for that would be October 19th and January 3rd in both games vs. the Giants.

    60 points for 60 NYG fan suicides!

    Just like this turd

  328. 328 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:47 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I was shocked to find Media Mike was in his late 30s. I really thought you were that totally inappropriate and odd 60 year old uncle.

  329. 329 MagsDogDays said at 7:31 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    For Texas. For Dallas. For Cowbabies. For fun! ;~D

  330. 330 Media Mike said at 7:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    It would be nice if a few Cowboys fans sat on those guns, inserted them somewhere dark, and pulled the trigger.

  331. 331 MagsDogDays said at 1:24 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    “Much Cow(boy) Dung”. ;~D

  332. 332 Insomniac said at 7:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Mariota is looking so bad for his debut.

  333. 333 Media Mike said at 7:39 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He’s just throwing games to get Wis fired so the Titans can trade the Eagles two #1 draft picks and a bronze statue of the Bud Adams middle finger incident for Chip.

  334. 334 Ssakcis said at 7:37 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    poor mariotta

  335. 335 Insomniac said at 7:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    welcome to the big league rook

  336. 336 Nailed it! said at 7:39 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Tennessee is going to ruin Mariota.

  337. 337 Media Mike said at 7:40 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Well, if they weren’t so greedy in their trade demands on draft day……………..

    but I blame that on jack off Snyder from Washington ruining the trade up for a QB market.

  338. 338 Nailed it! said at 7:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Buy Low baby

  339. 339 Greg Richards said at 7:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Call TEN right now. Offer Matt Barkley, Ced Thornton, and a 2020 4th round pick. Should get it done.

  340. 340 GEAGLE said at 9:59 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    Fuck that…. “swamp” needs to remain an eagle 😉

  341. 341 anon said at 7:45 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Matt Ryna went 5/6 100yds and TD, you can tell that Titans secondary needs help

  342. 342 Media Mike said at 7:47 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I can’t wait until he goes 5/56 and no TDs as the Eagles b-slap Atlanta on the Monday night opener.

  343. 343 TypicalDouche said at 7:49 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I will be in attendance for that and I cant wait to see what BG and Barwin do to ATL’s terrible offensive line and mr Matty Ice having no time to breathe.

  344. 344 Media Mike said at 7:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    And if anybody is in that stadium wearing a DeAngelo Hall jersey you need to push them down a flight of steps as revenge for the crap he started pre-game in the 2005 opener, but for which he was never properly punished.

  345. 345 TypicalDouche said at 7:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    haha F*ck Hall and that shit from that game. I am sure though after a few cold ones I will be ready to throw all the ATL fans down some stairs.

  346. 346 Media Mike said at 8:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    And if you see Tyson Clabo, you should break that bottle and stab him in the throat with it. The cheap shot on Graham’s keen from 2010 has also never avenged.

  347. 347 TypicalDouche said at 8:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I wish I could but that bum is still a free agent walking the streets!!

  348. 348 Media Mike said at 8:05 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The only part of him on the streets should be a chalk outline. That crap he pulled on Graham destroyed the early part of Graham’s career.

  349. 349 Insomniac said at 7:57 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    That awful Vikings, Bengals, Steelers family commercial is still playing. Whoever thought of that shit needs to be fired.

  350. 350 TypicalDouche said at 7:58 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I have hated that commercial since it released, and what makes it even worst is there is an Eagles fan in that family. You know what I say to that family, “Fuck you and your stupid bandwagon family, you all suck!”

  351. 351 Greg Richards said at 7:59 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    If anyone in your family picks another team other than the Eagles, disown them.

  352. 352 TypicalDouche said at 8:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Well whats funny is my family is pretty diverse, my mother is from north New Jersey so shes a Giants fan, me and my father are eagles fans, my wife is originally from DC so she is a LOLskins fan. But we don’t get together on Sundays and sing kumbaya to eachother. Basically no one in my family talks to eachother on Sundays lol. So you would never mistake us for the family on that commercial.

  353. 353 Tdoteaglefan said at 8:27 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    *raises glass* that is the exact same thing i always say whenever i see that god forsaken commercial.

    I like how sarah the eagles fan is jumping out of her seat and screaming at the tv while watching the game, at least they got that part right

  354. 354 Media Mike said at 8:01 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    The NFL should not be promoting
    Miscegenation of fan bases. Next thing you know, it won’t be ok to make fans of other teams feel unwelcome in the home team’s stadium. F that.

  355. 355 Insomniac said at 8:02 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    What they didn’t tell you is that they were secretly a Cowboys family..

  356. 356 Media Mike said at 8:03 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Some secrets need to be kept.

  357. 357 Joe Minx said at 10:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Wish I could give this an extra like just for your use of the word miscegenation.

  358. 358 Media Mike said at 8:09 PM on August 14th, 2015:


  359. 359 Greg Richards said at 8:11 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Ouch. Hope he’s okay. Easy target to be torched by our WRs.

  360. 360 Media Mike said at 8:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Normally I agree, but misfortune befalling New York is always such a nice combo of hubris / Karma.

  361. 361 Greg Richards said at 8:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Damn, now the other Giants’ draft pick at S – Mykkele Thompson – is hurt too.

  362. 362 botto said at 8:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    poor guys didn’t ask to be picked by such a loser team

  363. 363 TypicalDouche said at 9:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    You mean Odell Beckham can’t play every position on the giants?? Man from listening to Giants fans you would think he can literally do everything.

  364. 364 anon said at 8:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Eli still playing — big goose egg on the board.

  365. 365 Greg Richards said at 8:18 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m going to laugh/celebrate if the Giants give Peyton’s younger, less-talented brother a big $ extension.

  366. 366 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:38 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I’m jumping in late and this may have already been said, but…

    I gotta believe sitting Bradford has as much or more to do with the unsettled OL/RG situation as it does with giving Bradford more time to heal. Until that line has a chance to work together for a few days straight, without playing musical right guards, I wouldn’t risk my glass QB either.

  367. 367 GermanEagle said at 9:10 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    If they sit him next week against the Ravens it’s time to push the panic button though

  368. 368 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:22 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Agreed. Fire Kelly.

  369. 369 GermanEagle said at 9:09 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Just having a conversation with friends:

    Tebowing or Teabagging? What would you rather ?

  370. 370 TypicalDouche said at 9:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Well if I remember correctly, being teabagged meant one guy putting his balls on another man’s face sooo you decide which you prefer

  371. 371 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:42 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I would think participating in such a thing would be clearly remembered.

  372. 372 TypicalDouche said at 10:46 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I agree, participating in such an event would be remembered. Me personally have never partook in it so I wouldn’t know but do recall being in high school and teabagging being associated with nuts on your face.

  373. 373 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 6:00 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    I thought it was dropping them in the mouth

  374. 374 JoeBlow said at 9:12 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Whoa…two fumbled snaps in a row for E.J. Manuel, second of which hit him right in the chest…not good for a guy trying to make some kind of good impression

  375. 375 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:43 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah that was a terrible 1st series..but he made an absolutely beautiful 50 yard touchdown pass a little later and has looked good ever since, receivers not really helping him out by dropping passes though

  376. 376 JoeBlow said at 9:46 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    yes that was a very nice throw,right on the money

  377. 377 JoeBlow said at 9:14 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Bud Dupree looks slow sluggish and tired

  378. 378 TypicalDouche said at 9:15 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    He looked just as terrible in there first preseason game as well. OLB is a hard position for rooks to succeed so I give him the benefit of the doubt

  379. 379 JoeBlow said at 9:17 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    yea same here, he was always going to be a bit of a project, whole bunch of upside, needs some experience to figure out what he’s supposed to be doing. Right now he just looks lost

  380. 380 TypicalDouche said at 9:18 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    agreed Joe.

  381. 381 wee2424 said at 11:05 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Remind you of someone last year? OLB is very hard for rookies.

  382. 382 anon said at 9:51 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t hate if Rex Ryan was our coach.

  383. 383 wee2424 said at 11:08 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Over Chip? No way. There are worse coaches then Rex but he reminds me of one of my exes. Exciting at first, but after the honey moon phase you can’t wait to get rid of her.

  384. 384 anon said at 12:16 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    Chips better, but if not chip, Rex wouldn’t be terrible, if he had a good OC/QB.

  385. 385 wee2424 said at 10:43 AM on August 15th, 2015:

    I think when you choose a HC you don’t say he needs a good OC and QB to have success. You want a HC that can build a franchise up.

    To me Rex is good at being a very important peice of a puzzle (DC), but he is not to great at being the thing that holds the puzzle together which is the HC.

  386. 386 JoeBlow said at 10:13 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Just realized Sunday’s game is at 1…..WTF? 93 degrees and high humidity….bust out the pickle juice

  387. 387 wee2424 said at 10:35 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Carey Williams looks decent in coverage for Seattle. James Casey took a kick out for Denver. Hope the best for Casey. He looked really good in Houston, just couldn’t get on track with Ertz and Celek in front of him. His old coach Kubiak will find more ways to use him in Denver. Kubiak likes to use a FB.

  388. 388 wee2424 said at 10:50 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Seeing Casey play with Denver made me wonder if we may see Celek play a little FB this year. It would be a creative way to get Ertz and Celek on the field at the same time and you could easily audible from pass to run or vice versa to create serious matchup problems. Could be a really good goal line or short yardage formation.

  389. 389 Tdoteaglefan said at 10:53 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Tyler lockett looking good with the seahawks..had one long return and just took another one 103 yards to the house

  390. 390 wee2424 said at 10:56 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Yeah, the kid is explosive. Seahawks could be even more dangerous then years past with a very explosive KR and a receiving threat like Graham as long as they can overcome serious losses along their OL. Their OL wasn’t exactly a strength in the past.

  391. 391 BreakinAnklez said at 1:02 PM on August 15th, 2015:

    Also getting the burner from Colorado back. Paul something. I think he got hurt in the NFCCG which hurt them in the SB as well.

  392. 392 wee2424 said at 3:18 PM on August 15th, 2015:

    Richardson I believe.

  393. 393 BreakinAnklez said at 6:05 PM on August 17th, 2015:

    Yes! Thank you

  394. 394 anon said at 10:55 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Folesy 3-5 for 70YDS, 35 of which were off a screen pass. Took a sack for 15 yds.

  395. 395 wee2424 said at 11:00 PM on August 14th, 2015:

    Does he look sharp or does he look almost scared like he did last year at times and not stepping into his throws? I know 5 passes and one of them a screen may not be enough to judge.