Big Day for the D
Posted: September 27th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 396 Comments »The Eagles gave up 20 points in the 1st half of the season opener. Since then, they have allowed 36 points in 10 quarters. That’s good defense, especially when you consider that the offense still isn’t exactly sustaining drives and helping them to stay off the field.
Nobody will be calling this bunch Gang Green II any time soon, but they are showing real signs of improvement from the past couple of years.
The Jets ran 75 plays, generated 323 yards and 17 points.
The Eagles defense came up with 1 sack, 2 TFLs, 9 PDs, 2 FFs and 4 takeaways. Beyond the stats, they seemed to come up with key plays at key moments. I think all of Eagles Nation was ready to lose it when Ryan Mathews fumbled late in the game. A few plays later, the Eagles take the ball right back. That was a huge moment in the game. Keep in mind that the defense did that while missing Cedric Thornton, Mychal Kendricks, Kiko Alonso and Taylor Hart.
Backups and role players had a big day. Jordan Hicks, a player more than a few fans hated during the draft, had a terrific game. He led the team with 10 tackles and had a hand in 2 takeaways. He picked off a pass and recovered a fumble. Brandon Bair went from inactive to starting at LDE. He deflected 3 passes, one of which was picked off by Hicks. Rookie Eric Rowe got used in Dime sets. He broke up one pass and picked off another. The INT came in the end zone.
When a team is trying to come off an 0-2 start, they need everybody to do their part. You could really see this with the defense. Just about everyone who played contributed to some key play in the game.
No one is saying the Jets are some juggernaut offense and the Eagles played a great game, but the defense came up big on a day when it was needed.
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#Eagles defense has not allowed an individual 100-yard rusher in 15 games and just one in the last 27.
— Brandon Lee Gowton (@BrandonGowton) September 27, 2015
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As good as the win was, there is still a lot of work to be done. This win didn’t save the season. It bought the team another week to get their act together.
This team hasn’t come close to playing up to their talent. They got started in the right direction today, but they still have a long way to go.
The offense didn’t score a point in the 2nd half. As good as the defense was, a 24-0 lead turned into a 24-17 finish. Receivers dropped key passes. Sam Bradford was off target with a couple of throws. There is still too much sloppy football. That has to change if this team is going to have a successful season.
The Eagles showed signs of life on Sunday. They’re only a game out of the division lead. Things are wide open, but the Eagles must start playing good football. Winning ugly is fine if your goal is to stay in the playoff hunt. Chip Kelly wants more than that and this team has the potential to be more than that.
I do think winning a game will allow the players to exhale, so to speak. When things aren’t going well, it seems the weight of the world is on your shoulders. The media was looking for scapegoats and compelling story lines every day. The players no longer have to answer questions about being 0-2. They no longer have to discuss the awful run game. And so on.
For the fist time in a while, there is something good to talk about.
I’m sure SalPal will still find some salacious angle to obsess on for the next 6 days.
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It’ll be nice to go through the week knowing that they got a shot to go 2-2 and get some more momentum moving forward.
Salacious angle: is Billy Davis keeping the playmakers on the bench? A season after Bradley Fletcher could do nothing to get benched, it looks as if the best the defense has to offer may have been buried on the sideline, and inactive list, the first two weeks. Davis is playing the wrong guys, or my name isn’t a palindrome for anal piano stool.
Omg that last line LOL!!!
I think Anal Piano Stool as a palindrome (as opposed to an anagram) would actually be
“Anal Piano Stool Loots Onaip, Lana”
Sounds like something from a police blotter.
Very true. Also, hat tip to Ark87 for any new comers. He is the originator of the anal piano stool discovery.
I believe that was Baloophi.
Yeah, you might be right, again.
Add another reason to #FIREBILLY
I know we’re just fans, but it’s hard to buy what he’s selling as far as who the best players are when we routinely see guys getting torched with other options languishing on the bench.
You realize that was satire, right? I hardly think Kendricks, Kiko, and Thorton are keeping the true talent on the sideline.
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Sorry, was thinking about Caroll, Boykin, etc. Kendricks, Kiko, Thornton are a whole other story.
How’s that BoyKing doing in Pittsburgh? Has he sniffed the field in a game yet?
He’s played about 6% of the defensive snaps so far. Only 2 yesterday. Either he’s in the doghouse or Tomlin really wants to hang onto that 4th rounder…
O, spoon it anal, Al!
Tommy, what do you think is going on with Bradford? Rust? Drops? Getting used to the offense? Do you see him getting better?
I need to check the game out before coming to any conclusions. But yeah…something is off.
Bradford is looking like a guy who hasn’t played in a +year.
That timming between him and the WRs needs to be fixed. The JUGs machine should see plenty of work this week
I think he would look better if the WRs would catch the ball.
Maybe the problem is that there is no problem, he’s just Sam Bradford.
That is too scary of a possibility to consider.
Which is why we’ve spent the whole summer persuading ourselves that the Chippah was going to turn him into Aaron Rodgers Jr. The alternative is too scary to consider.
but he looked so good in 7 on 7 drills this summer
Mostly of the thrown are underthrows. This is rusty. Everybody knows he have a strong arm. With more time to get chemistry with receivers and shake it off that rusty, and then it will be more fair to judge.
Dawkins is Weapon X. Can Sproles be Weapon Z or something?
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/648245376839983104?s=09
he’s gotta be more involved in the offense. I liked he was used more today hope it keeps trending upwards
I have loved Sproles ever since he was with the Chargers. He has had a nice, long career for a speed guy. I am always a fan of pro athletes around the same height as me 🙂
Meryl called him Mighty Mouse
Anyone think Vick can stay healthy for 4-6 weeks until Ben returns?
I think so. He’s got some lethal talent around him. They’ll lean on the running game and play to his strengths, hopefully. I’m excited for Vick, he has a chance to have a nice little run in that offense
The Over/Under is 50 INTs and 10 Fumbles in the 4-6 weeks! *Hint, pick the Over!
I’m hoping Bradford gets his act together as the season goes on. He’s way off on the down field throws, and it’s evident that throwing downfield is out of his comfort zone. Too often he favors the short completions and then ends up firing some innacurate passes when he tries to sling it. I’m not worried yet though.
We need to be patient with this WR group. They’re the weak links in the offense right now, outside of Jordan Matthews. You have to wonder if Josh Huff is going to be taking the majority, if not all, of 1st team reps moving forward, because Riley Cooper has been nonexistent. Next weeks game in Washington would be a good time to start the young guys together and leave them there. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s had enough of Miles Austin already, the guy just can’t get any separation and cannot hold on to the football when he does.
Very glad the running game got on track today, especially against that formidable Jets front 7. Lane Johnson had some really nice blocks today, while Jason Kelce cleaned up some of the protection issues. I think the offensive line will build on this performance and start to play better together.
I was very pleased with Jordan Hicks today. He’s very instinctive and was all over the ball today! He was the bright spot on the D today, imo. I’m glad he’s showing up and flashing his potential; he’s making Chip look good for bringing him into a once crowded LB group. Nolan Carroll was pretty good today in coverage today. I feel really good about our secondary. Maxwell was moved around a bit today and played a lot of press. Good day for the defense. Jenkins is playing on another level right now.
Now let’s bring home that second win against those Bumskins next week!
Go Birds!
I’m really concerned with our 3rd and short playcalling… it’s like Andy’s offense all over again…smh
He wasn’t that conservative for the couple weeks leading into this. I think it had more to do with the defense than it did anything else.
When you number one weapon is tempo, and tempo is not something you want to do because you want to run time off the clock, it’s a dilemma
1 thing chip gonna have to do is give bradford ability to audible when they go slow. couple runs yesterday looked like bradford knew play had no chance of working cause of how D was set up but he still snapped it anyway and play got stuffed.
I had a flashback to 2003 when Sproles returned that punt today. That could end up being the play that turns this season around.
Much as I enjoyed today’s play, it doesn’t compare to Westbrook’s game saving return in terms of timeliness.
Game saving, no. But season saving? Well, I hope.
I’m mostly judging from how hard my heart was pounding at the time.
I was yelling “run you little bas##rd, run” while he was running to the house! Sometimes short guys beat up little guys (sorry Chippa!)!
The defense is playing with a lot of confidence no matter who is in the game. They’re not playing scared and it shows.
Yeah… some great individual efforts are going to save Davis’ job
Long way to go still for that but they are playing well. Helped that fitz was captain check down also a lot of game, he wasn’t good
True… Nice to have DBs that come down and make tackles on those short throws.
I thought the coverage was good on the deep throws too
Davis isn’t going anywhere until after the season. It would be crazy to fire him midseason.
Who said anything about midseason?
Need to say Eric Rowe should get a littie love today…..improving weekly….
That’s okay, I like that Murray is a between the tackles runner. It will pay dividends, we just have to be patient.
murray ran from shotgun all the time at Oklahoma
That’s what I had heard as well (that Murray ran from the shotgun in college).
It was a power run game
O, spoon it anal, Al!
“defense has not allowed an individual 100-yard rusher in 15 games and just one in the last 27.”
To be fair and add perspective a lot of this was because it was comically easy to pass on our D
If only we got to face the Jets offense every week, we would be Gang Green II!
They played just as well 2nd half against the Falcons and all game vs the Cowboys. They’ve got playmakers on that side of the ball.
Looking at our old friend Foles, didn’t see the whole game but appeared he had a workmanlike game until the 4th when he threw the pick. What we kind of expected to happen is happening, they invested a ton in running backs who can’t run for crap because the OL is terrible and there’s no receivers. I’m not sure what the Rams plan for building that offense is but why bother drafting Todd Gurley to run behind that line? He had 6 carries for 9 yards today. That’s almost Demarco Murrayesque!
You know Murray was hot watching randle run for 100yds and 3tds. ‘ve interesting too see if that relationship falls apart. I think Mathews is a better runner though he can’t catch.
Oof, we only gained 234 yards of offense today, 116 throwing from Bradford. It felt like more watching the game, but I guess that’s what winning does.
Sammy b terrible .Offense not good helped by good field position but jets have a great d .Will say we only run a few plays. Sad to see very few chances down field. Wrs were rarely open.
Ags had a step on Revis, and Bradford missed Austin twice on what looked liked TDs.
I don’t think Sam is seeing the field well. He is playing like Kaepernick and staring down his primary read
The staring down receivers thing is troubling. Two years out of the game seems to have a pretty big effect on his decision making. I still think it’s fixable tho.
Its weird. Some plays you an clearly see him go through reads and others he looks lost.
Yeah, which is why I’m hoping he can find that consistency. This is the same issue that we had with Foles, so we take a shot on a guy with higher upside and hopefully it works out.
Maybe the QB and the OL aren’t the only ones still learning. Maybe there are plays where the WRs are running bad routes too?
There were definitely a few plays where I thought I saw receivers ending up in the same zone as another receiver, which is a sign that someone ran the wrong route. I think there were also a few plays that were called as a single read play, most notably a WR screen to the left that was clearly a busted play in the 2nd half. SB didn’t come off the screen and waited for several seconds before sailing it out of bounds. I’ve been happy with Sam’s reads in general, not happy with his (in)accuracy.
Wonder if that’s why we don’t see package plays or read option
I think the main reason we’re not seeing the Read Option is Kelly keeps saying that he doesn’t run the RO!
I’m still giving Bradford the benefit of the doubt, but I did see some troubling staring down of the first read today. I hadn’t seen that in preseason, and nothing about his history indicated that it was a problem with him. So it was weird to see that today.
Let’s hope this is still rust, and trusting in the O-line, and that we can move past it. Not sure if that’s the case but I can always hope.
It’s like he’s becoming Foles. Staring down his reads, getting skittish in the pocket when there’s no pressure… *sigh*
There was also the swing pass to Sproles that was dropped. The Eagles receivers left a lot of points bounce of off their hands.
Probably because they moved it pretty well in the first half — felt like a decent total of the first half (plus we had 89 return yards on one play). In the second half we had a good lead so weren’t quite as desperate for offensive production (and may have dialed it back some to drain clock). But the offense really did very little in the second half.
good news is revis/crommartie prob best cb tandem in league wont face anyone nearly as good as them again and bradford did have 100+ yards today in drops if mathews/sproles catch those two long TDs
So Josh Huff was inactive today. Is he hurt at all or did Kelly prefer Cooper/Austin over Huff because they’re veterans? Or, is that a sign they aren’t as confident with Huff in the passing game?
Cooper only comes in run plays. Could call that every time .Interesting mostert active over huff.
*Barner
Yeah, that is interesting. Cooper won’t be here next year.
He told the media earlier in the week that the Cowboys were calling out the Eagles plays. Might have something to do with it
Wow. In the dog house. Again.
Or his hamstring. That could also have something to do with it.
Def could have used him today. Injury report said he had a hamstring a few days ago.
How could they be down on Huff anymore than the rest of the WRs?
Huff was added to the injury report with a hamstring issue alongside Murray (both listed as questionable, and neither played today).
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/09/eagles_vs_jets_injury_report_josh_huff_late_additi.html
I think Dennis Kelly was the only healthy inactive player. And he probably plays next week given Gardner is probably out.
Kelly played the last drive after Peters got hurt so he wasn’t inactive, all 8 OL were active today.
From the Game Day thread:
The full list of the inactives:
RB DeMarco Murray
QB Thad Lewis
WR Josh Huff
DE Cedric Thornton
DE Taylor Hart
LB Mychal Kendricks
LB Kiko Alonso
Whoops, I saw a list posted elsewhere that had Kelly instead of Lewis, who was the obvious inactive healthy player. OK, thanks.
Huff had a hammy
It was Huffs decision to not play.. “Ultimately it’s up to a player whether he can go or not”-chip
I don’t know if you guys saw the Richard Sherman punt return but that was hilarious.
That speed though, LOL. How did he not score? ahahah.
Good thing his technique and support is so good
Anyone watch Broncos today run pistol from shotgun? Be interesting to see if chip tried something like that to change up run game
We came out in the I on the first drive of the game. I know we used to used it in year 1. PA was deadly from the I. I hope Chip brings it back
I remember, whenever the QB was under center, it was always a PA. And opposing teams always fell for it…
Sad watching Andy Dalton growing downfield all day and Bradford looked like Fitzpatrick
I think the Eagles go downfield on the Redskins. The Jets have a very good defense and a very good secondary.
You still have to test teams, esp when they play cover 0. If only to back them up some.
I think they wanted to make sure they could limit the turnovers. Those CBs will get INTs if it’s not the perfect ball. SB isn’t there yet.
I don’t disagree, but they kept Huff out of the game this week. He has more speed than both Cooper/Austin, and we had only Ags out there with speed.
They said Huff has a hammy.
I’m surprised we never went to Ertz or Matthews down the seam.
Autsin got behind Cromartie twice and Ags behind Revis once. If Sammy throws a better ball we might be talking about how we blew out the Jets
Austin is worthless
He’s the new Riley Cooper. Just another big body that can’t do his job.
At least Coop had a key gritty block on Sproles goal line TD run…Austin left his hands in Cleveland
The dude must have died in Dallas, now he’s just a ghost that haunts random locker-rooms every year. Miles the friendly ghost.
The Redskins should be the team the Eagles O plays well against for 2 halfs.
Honestly, the Redskins game makes me nervous (every game makes me nervous). The skins beat us once last year and played us really tough in the other game. They also have a long rest week.
I absolutely hated that loss last year to the Redskins. Now you’ve got me nervous, too.
But imagine how big Dalton will get if he keeps growing downfield week after week. Eventually he won’t be able to fit in the stadium.
I wouldn’t say that Bradford was good in this game but he wasn’t anywhere near as terrible as some people seem to think. A few makeable catches would have changed a lot of perceptions about his performance.
This is the whole execution thing. No one person is to blame, but I think the majority of the stuff is fixable.
yea Bradford and the receivers just are not in sync yet. Either Bradford makes a good throw/right read and it’s dropped, or he reads it well, the receiver is wide open and Sam makes an awful throw…They just can’t sustain a rhythm in the passing game and it is concerning although i believe they develop a good chemistry as the season progresses and Sam gets a better handle on this offense…..building on today’s emergence of a running game would certainly help the QB and receivers
This is how I feel about it. They’ve lost 2 games, but both were winnable. It’s still early in the season and enough time to get better and gel.
Had we gone 0-3, I think I would be prepared to talk execution. At 1-2, I will give them another week or two before we roll out the gallows.
Plus, I’d argue that while Bradford’s accuracy has been inconsistent (tending towards bad with a few gems sprinkled in), he’s been making good reads in general. Yes, he hasn’t pushed it deep much, but this was not the week to try that. Let’s see what happens next week. My guess is that they’re going to still throw mostly short/short intermediate stuff, because that’s the tempo style (Chip wants the ball out fast). The deep passes are going to be constraint plays, that you’re only going to see when they feel they’re executing the bread and butter plays properly.
The accuracy issue is real regardless of if the catches are made. The unwillingness to go deep are real, regardless of if we win or not. The real question comes down to can we win consistently with the way Bradford is playing, even if the WRs pick up their games. To me, the answer is still no. That doesn’t mean things can’t improve as Bradford gains confidence in his WRs and in this offense, but so far those issues see to be the overwhelming majority of the sample we are seeing.
The other issue here is that we gave up a lot for Bradford AND by the end of the year we will have a very tricky contract situation at QB. The way Bradford is playing right now, no way he is worth a Franchise Tag. But some team out there is bound to overpay for him if they are desperate at QB (and many teams are). So for the Eagles, you have to feel like he is worth paying decent money to, and to feel comfortable doing that, you have to see him throwing accurately and making plays. So far this season, that has been largely missing.
If this is what Bradford is, then he is a worse player than Sanchez.
Some people may scoff at this because Mark has such a bad reputation but you raise an interesting question. What would be the Eagles record if Sanchez was qb1? Is Sam really that much better than Mark? Is he that much better than Nick? I’m holding off on judgement until deeper in the season but I sure would like to see Bradford fulfill all the hype he had coming into the League.
I don’t know. Maybe 2-1 if Sanchez makes a few plays in the Dallas game and avoids some of the horrible miscues that Bradford made. Marginal though.
Bradford will be a backup next year. He might go to a team with a rookie QB (where there’s a possibility he might start), but it’s clear now he’s a 2nd- or 3rd-tier talent.
That’s fair but I’m also not willing to give him more credit than he deserves. I’ve written elsewhere that Sam should be evaluated based on what it cost to get him. My expectations may have been too high as I was hoping for him to be playing at a much higher level. The season is still young, though, too early to reach a conclusion.
Has anyone mentioned the effect losing Gardner may have had in the 2nd half? Not saying he was All Pro or anything, but if part of our problem was O-line cohesion and chemistry, and after finally getting some good signs that that’s happening in the first half, one of the guys goes down, isn’t it natural to assume that his loss had an impact, despite what we might think about his individual play in a vacuum?
Tobin played well in his stead. He was what he is. The only big negative play from him was his second play in when Williams beat him in pass pro for a sack (pass pro vs speedy or long lever players is Tobins one major flaw). Specifically Tobin did a very good job on the outside zones.
The run game was ok in the second half but the jets said screw it and loaded the box, and the passing game had some bad drops and errant passes that got us off track.
2nd half drives:
1st drive: Sproles right 0 yards
2nd drive: No runs
3rd drive: 2 yards off left, 0 yards up middle (Pryor tackle)
4th drive: 6 yards right, -2 yards left (Pryor)
5th drive: 13 yards left, 9 yards right, 2 yards middle, fumble
6th drive: 4 yards left, 1 yard right
7th drive -1 yards left, 6 yards middle (Peters hurt), Sproles right -3
8th drive: 2 yards left (Pryor), 2 yards left, penalty, penalty, 0 yards
16 runs: 42 yards. Not great but Pryor was clearly in the box and Sproles was minimally effective in a loaded box. Matthews did ok.
Eagles seemed to play “let’s not lose” in the 4th quarter instead of let’s play our offense and keep the ball…
And it worked and they held on and got the win. That is what is important. Chip gets criticized for not caring about time of possession and not slowing down when they have a lead. With the way the offense has been playing in recent weeks, maybe it was good to play conservative and “lets not lose” in the fourth quarter. The could have executed better, but for this week against this opponent, playing conservative worked.
So are we going to game plan for 4 turnovers in the second half to go with our non-scoring conservative offense too?
Scoring 21 points in the second half is tough, scoring 21 more points than Chip Kelly when he is looking to score is virtually impossible. Belichick is evil, but that ish works.
So I see Marcus Smith isn’t in the box score, did he play special teams?
Yes. I at least saw him once on the punt return team. I imagine with all the injuries, he played on all special teams units.
What bothered me the most about Bradford performance is that at times he had enough time to have a tea party before throwing the ball but he still seemed a bit rushed. Obviously it’s not ALL on him as many people have pointed out, but his protection has been good.
Yea. I defended Bradford a lot the past two weeks. But, he did not play well yesterday. Granted, he had two perfectly placed, 80 yard TDs dropped, on the wheel route by Sproles and Mathews. But, overall, he did not look comfortable at all.
that throw to Sproles was way off(wrong side). You can see where Sproles was expecting it. Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was catchable but still a bad throw. I doubt Bradford was aiming for a back shoulder play with no defender around. Later in the game, he made the correct throw on the same play.
The frustrating part about that Mathews play is that while the throw to Mathews was to the wrong shoulder, Mathews did the hard part and adjusted to the throw in plenty of time and got both hands on the ball and then just dropped it.
I’m glad you said that. Maybe Matthews could have caught the pass but it was still a crappy throw.
They weren’t perfect, but come on. People make that catch for Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Peyton Manning all the time and no one questions the accuracy on their throw. It hit Mathews square in the chest. He should have caught it and scored.
Brady, Rogers, Peyton hit there RB’s in stride and not make them turn the other way(wrong side) to catch it…AND…even with the errant throw — I still said it was ‘catchable’ — a catchable throw doesn’t mean it was a great throw…
I’m thinking Austin dropped at least one too. I know one was a bad throw, but the other was right on.
so Brady was in the game in the 4th qtr up 34.
Dec. 6th my friends. Good v. evil.
That’s one huge difference right now between Beli-Cheater and CK. Beli never takes the foot off the gas. Ever. (which is why his players are dream players for fantasy). CK with go 100 mph, until he has a lead then turns into AR.
Our whole offense is designed for the tempo. Once it gets rolling and we turn on the tempo it’s ridiculously hard to stop. Our playbook is tiny to accommodate just that. Once the tempo is off, it can look ugly, and that goes back even to the glory days of 2013. I hope we eventually Throw in a full playbook almost just for those situations. The boys look to the signalers, they’re signalling to huddle up. Sam gets the play radio’d in and he passes it along.
1. Lets our offense burn clock like a real offense when it needs to.
2. prevents defenses from honing in on our preferred set of plays so much in game planning.
Offense is getting bogged down? Huddle up and throw something they haven’t game planned for. Start drives off with any number of plays, maybe script 2 in a row per drive. All you need is to get the chains moving, flip on the tempo and go nuts.
We say we keep a small playbooks for execution sake but:
A. it hasn’t helped our execution
B. these are professionals, never heard anyone blame poor execution on the size of a playbook.
I was really hoping for an 8-minute drive yesterday in the 4th. Unfortunately, it was the Jets that ran it!
I know, I was actually happy, I’m sitting at the bar like, “did this drive start in the 3rd quarter? This is kinda awesome!” Jets burned so much clock there.
Carson was in game still throwing up by 30. Got sacked hard and all i could think was “if he gets hurt pig face should be fired”.
A very nice win vs. a very good defense. You take a game like that and say phew. Still a lot of questions of questions about this team. Still not a well oiled machine. Where was our rookie WR who is supposed to have an impact this year? 20 people hurt on D and MS still not on the field? How far down the depth chart is this guy? Where was Celek? Huff got hurt on a Friday?
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Sooner or later – you have to think about benching VMax. Opposing QB’s are looking around at the defense and see VMax and say “there’s my bitch”.
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Very good to see some new players on D making plays. Was that Thurmond with the INT? Very nice.
The best aspect of the defense is that they are having these good showings without generating many sacks. Some may be concerned with the lack of sacks, but I’m not The least bit worried.. Sacks come in bunches so if we can play good defense now without the sacks, defense will be the much better once we open the sack flood gates on opponents…
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defense shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, they grow with each week that passes. No doubt we will boast a quality defense by the end of this season… glad fans are getting to see that Nolan Can play.. i Adore our two safeties… Hicks looks like friggin Bobby Wagner out there…our
Front 7 is scary, they are 7 men deep. They are so deep we can’t even activate them all on a normal week.. Bair came in and no one missed the great Thornton
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Think people are absurd getting carried away with Sam not looking great… It will come.. Not concerned
Yeah, the radio guys are already saying that Kelly knows he doesn’t have the players on the outside and that’s why he played conservative in the 2nd half. SMH.
Sam is getting more comfortable each week, as is the OL. I agree that I’m not concerned about them improving. It’ll come with time.
So dumb…. Thankfully im not in the country so I’m oblivious to radio stupidity
we don’t have any playmakers on the outside yet –NA might take a year to come to form TBE from a rookie.
It’ll b interesting to see the D against a better QB, balling out on Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t saying much but we are getting good pressures Bair seems to be great at batting balls AND Rowe didn’t get abused like he was in preseason, all good things.
i think rowe felt good going against smith (rookie) … mentally it was a good matchup for him.. and it showed.. played great..
Rowe played well and the interception was a great play.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/648483145050890240
I think it’s fair to say that when CK arrived, the Eagles had a solid offense & a shaky defense. Now several years later, the defense seems to have been re-built with the kind of scheme & players that CK envisions. The results look promising; we haven’t seen a D performance like yesterday since JJ days. This re-build has worked. On O, the realistic path had to be downward as inherited good players got old, retired, left in free agency, got cut, or just didn’t want to be here. Some of this was the natural decline of any NFL unit over time; some resulted from the new coaches actions. I think it’s fair to call the O a work in progress with another off-season or two needed to get the players Ck wants. The good news is that while the Eagles are getting re-built, they are getting younger, which can only lead to better days & years ahead.
I’m not sure I’d call 8-8 then 4-12 as a “solid offense” that Chip inherited.
I fully expected the front 7 to be strong. Yesterday, the secondary also looked good.
Re: Sam Bradford.
Meanwhile, Tyrod Taylor looks phenomenal for Buffalo. Watched the entire game yesterday. Smooth, decisive, accurate, good arm. Better athlete.
Nevermind that he would have cost zero in resources.
tebow was better in college tho so chip had to waste time with him in the preseason instead of someone with actual upside
Maybe he would have been a bad culture fit. Bradford is a perfect culture fit since he spends most of his time staring at people like a robot.
Your point about resources is a good one. Bradford deserves to be evaluated in comparison to Foles and the pick.
TT would be GREAT in this system if he could run RO / Package plays for all the reasons you said. But think that’s the Shurmur influence. It’s really nice to see him balling.
Also interesting that rex ryan team is dropping 40+ on opponents they put up significant numbers each week.
oh man, that would have been fun had they taken him on as the upgrade in the offseason. Easy to say in hindsight
I really need to stop reading the comments on Philly.com, nothing but a bunch or trolls complaining about a win. It’s really pathetic!
That community is full of depressed negative nancies. You Only Live Once, right?!
https://twitter.com/EliotShorrParks/status/648488154694033408
Was more impressed with how he was sniffing out screens and shutting them down..
.. Sacks come in bunches and I thought Curry had a better day pressuring the QB then BG did…. BG played well but he is still capable of more
Graham is in the backfield a lot turning plays back into the interior. There aren’t any stats or publicity that goes with that, but the people who know, see it.
Does that mean he had 7 “Mamulas”?
Lol
I think 5 mamulas. The QB hit mamulas are probably counted in the QB hurry mamulas.
We need to find a name for a play where the QB is a little too slow to read the play, rifles in a pass without any touch, hits the receiver just on the periphery of his catch zone, usually 0-7 yards down the field. I will call that a “Bradford”.
Contrasted with the “Mcnabb” where the quarterback has a clean pocket, confidently steps forward and with perfect motion rifles a pass strait into the ground 10 yards in front of him.
Never got the Mamula hate. He was just starting to become a pretty decent player when he blew out his knee & his career was finished.
People always act like he was a complete bust or that he never got to the QB.
Well, would you have rather had Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks, or Mike Mamula?
Brooks was drafted much later in the 1st round and multiple teams passed on Sapp even though he was originally projected to be a Top 3 player due to the positive marijuana test/numerous off-field stories at the U.
Turned out those concerns were pretty valid even if he was a great player at times on the field. Sapp had numerous issues on the field while in TB, has been in trouble with law enforcement several times since retiring, and declared bankruptcy.
I would rather have had Sapp and Brooks, even if Sapp is a knucklehead. Therefore, to me, the Mamula jokes aren’t out of line.
He was better this week after being awful first two games.
Much better.
Soft part of the schedule coming up, if we want to have any chance at playoffs need to take care of business.
@Was
NO
NYG
@CAR
@DAL
MIA
TB
If the Eagles go on a tear here, especially beating the 3 Division rivals, they be sitting well atop the NFC East.
CAR is undefeated
They haven’t exactly played a tough schedule themselves, and their offense is basically a one-man team.
Ours is too. Sproles.
Also: https://imgflip.com/i/rq5m2
And Dallas game is coming off the bye. Really good chance to pick up a few games here.
And Dallas is playing Seattle the week before. Dallas should be beat up after that game.
offense better be playing better come NY. Those WRs with Cruz back will be a handful I think so O will need to compensate.
Not sure WTF is wrong with people ripping Demarco and over reacting to Ryan Mathews.. Both are very good RBs who will contribute In a big way to this season
..
News flash, if the OL played as bad as they did in Dallas, Mathews wouldn’t have done shit either… When the OL has a decent blocking game, Murray will be fine…
Get ready, that is going to be the manufactured controversy of the week in Philly. Crap like: “What’s wrong with Murray?” “Should Mathews be starting instead of Murray?” “Are the Eagles better when Murray doesn’t play?’
Which is silly. It was obvious the OL blocked better this game, but the hot takes are what sells papers.
Mathews was still having to break tackles to get a lot of those yards, though. I’m okay with starting Mathews over Murray.
Mathews played really well and did a good job breaking tackles, but he was mostly breaking arm tackles or breaking tackles in trying to get through the line, not having to avoid players 5 yards deep behind the line of scrimmage on every run like in the Dallas game.
i think Mathews is better than Murray honestly, especially if he can stay healthy – and catch the ball – he’s a beast.
Murray isn’t exactly chopped liver… People act like Murray wants to dance behind the line… I think both Murray and Mathewa are great fits for this offense and that by the end of the season we will be glad to have both
Which isn’t to say Murray stinks or anything, but everything I’ve read says that Mathews is supremely talented, but just can’t stay in the lineup.
Hopefully reporters scan through the in-game comments section on Iggles Blitz first. We already answered that question.
It’s because Murray is the biggest profile, in terms of national awareness, addition/change to the team, even though it’s probably less important than the secondary, linebackers, OL, or QB.
Agholar needs to get going. Obviously he wasn’t going to have his breakout game against Revis but Redskin DBs are trash, Nelson has to get going THIS WEEK… How horrible does Amerson have to be, to get cut last week from a skins secondary
Agreed. This should be the week the rookie kicks it into gear.
It’s not Agholar. HE is a rookie. It’s Sam Bradford who is a verteran with a career starting record of 19-51
He reminds me of Huff in the sense that he seems to be trying to hard to hard to break out. He just needs to take baby steps, for now just play like you’re Jason Avant, don’t even think about YAC, just give your QB a place to throw to and catch the ball when it comes your way. The rest will work itself out.
All of our WR’s seem a hesitant to leave their feet to go get the ball, all of them seem like they desperately want to make an amazing snag on their feet and run for a TD.
Ags was open yesterday. The QB needs to throw him a catchable ball.
Part of the problem with Bradford appears to be decision making in the packaged plays:
https://twitter.com/ChipWagoneer/status/648493522467860480
I was just about to post this!!!
Interesting, and probably means Bradford is still not comfortable yet with his reads.
Are we sure that’s a read/option? We have so many plays that look like it but the outcome is pre-determined in the play call. Heard we haven’t run any actual r/o with Sam.
I don’t know for certain, but looking at Celek turning to look back, I’m thinking it is an option.
read/option in the ‘traditional’ sense that sam has option to run no its not. but he is reading a defender on the play and should have thrown it to celek since the defender crashed to stop the run
I’m not sure he was making a read. period. Or had an option. period. They just have the exchange that looks like it to freeze a defender. Almost every hand off looks just like that, and we used to rage at Nick Foles for making bad reads just like this. Then Chip goes and lets everyone know we run 2 R/O a game, tops.
would be nice is one of the 5000 beat writers asks chip about the play today. think it was a packaged play b/c of celek tho. he runs a pass route and immediately looks for the ball
definitely. I think Celek is selling it, and he did draw a Safety to cover him, still would have been an easy first down if we threw to him. Just not sure it was in the play call. Jets we sure sold on that run though, yeesh. They were certainly convinced there was a 0% chance that was a pass. After seeing that, I think they were right.
I don’t know if there is an actual read on the play or not, but it seems silly to have Celek go in a pass route to try to freeze the defender if there is no read and no option to pull the ball and throw it to Celek. Why not just have Celek block the defender in that case?
The idea is a linebacker has to slip out to cover him in the flat. the guy that didn’t cover Celek was frozen by the play, he ended up just holding the edge. so it should be 5 on 5 and nobody for 20 yards. However both LB’s blitzed and a safety had Celek in coverage coming from way out.
Just RPS play calling.
I understand it, I just think it is silly to run plays with built in options, but then not let the qb make the read based on what the defense is doing. It makes some sense to take away the read when the option is the rb taking the ball of the qb running the ball in order to try to protect the qb, but when there is a run/pass option built into the play let the qb make the read and use it. Unless Bradford is in uncomfortable with making the read, which is an even bigger problem.
I never understood it either, going back to the Foles days of looking like a R/O hand off and not being one. Like why not let him run the read option if their defense is going to occasionally have a busted coverage. I get it gives your run play a small chance to give an advantage if they honor the read, but if they totally blow the read it’s like, god I wish we had the option on that play.
My favorite is the little shrug he gives at the end.
I rewatched game and Chip confronts him immediately after the play. If we pick up a first probably overlooked.
Isn’t there a linebacker or safety steaming in to cover Celek? If it was a really quick throw it could get there, though the first down may not have been guaranteed. If it was a bit late that might have been a risky throw. Still, a quick throw might have been better than handing it off — even not counting the stranded defender the Jets had five players rushing to that other side, and a sixth player (linebacker) came through the gap to make the tackle in the backfield.
The line was not pushing forward though so it did give the option of a pass there. The stranded defender was there to stop a a cutback from Mathews or a run from Bradford, but did leave Celek open momentarily (though it was not a huge window).
I think given the Jets pre snap alignment, the throw was the better option . Celek had a chance whereas Sproles had almost no chance.
The safety was 15 yards away from Celek. It would easily have gotten the first and could have been a much bigger play.
15 yards but already closing fast. It takes time to get into a throwing motion and for the pass to reach the sidelines. He would have been much closer by the time the pass was caught, and if there was any delay in the throw that is pick-six territory. I do think it was a better option but unless that guy misses the tackle I’m not sure it’s a big gainer, and a great tackle might even prevent the first down. But if he could get it out real quick, yes it was a better option than the run which was going right into a run blitz.
Yeah, but he (the Safety) isn’t going to stop Celek before he gets the first down.
Bradford needs to read the numbers in the box instead of just blindly handing it off
Connor Barwin’s helmet is having a really good season.
https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/648493563131654144
Gah, our injury luck is deteriorating fast. 2nd opinion in Kiko situation is foreboding.
Interestingly enough, we seem to be having a lot of soft tissue injuries (groin, hamstring, etc.) which is exactly the injuries the sports science stuff is supposed to help against.
Sports Science is a young field which will improve with increased data & study. Science takes time to gain understanding of both what works and what doesn’t. And with technology giving us more data, there is currently a disconnect between the abundance of data and proper interpretation of it. I personally am encouraged by the relative health the Eagles have had the last few years.
Even if you do everything right, you are still going to have injuries in a violent, explosive sport. The only way to judge whether SportsScience(TM) works is multi-season studies with lots of data points. All else is cherry-picked anecdotes either way.
Jordan Hicks is taking a lot of pressure off of trying to rush Kiko back too soon. Hicks helped us win yesterday and don’ forget he is helping Dallas opponents win every Sunday Romo is riding the pine doing arts and crafts. Not bad for a 3rd pick… Helping 2 teams achieve victory every week.
he’s been exactly what we needed especially since our starts are SUPER injury prone. He also was injury prone in college hopefully that’s over.
He has been a pleasant surprise. So far the most productive draft pick from this years class. I know it is crazy super early to be judging. But I’m encouraged, er.. hopeful that he pans out to be an above average starter. Stewart Bradley also seemed to have a bright future. So we will see in time.
Crap. At least that explains those weak kick-offs.
Wow, Lane Johnson has become the go-to for the slightly dangerous quote now.
lol, when the media was getting antsy about going into preseason without announcing our starting RG, Kelce was like, yeah we’re professionals, it doesn’t matter who plays next to me, my role doesn’t change. Lane was like, F that noise I wanna know who I’m playing next to.
With all choir boys, one of em always hides behind the chapel to smoke..
What did he say? I missed it.
You should read Birds 24/7 (as a supplement to Igglesblitz, of course!), it seems they have a juicy Lane quote every day over there. The latest:
“Yeah, I think so,” said Lane Johnson following the Dallas loss, when asked if he believed the Cowboys had a feel for their tendencies. “I think moving forward we have to mix it up a little bit, create some more variety of plays and try to get some confusion for the defense.”
Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/?pm-blogs=birds247#6lFkhIy0KpUAMGYh.99
Wow, you are one SENSATIVE bitch… Smh
The Eagles are working out free agent Ks Nick Novak, Caleb Sturgis, Kai
Forbath, Shayne Graham, Carey Spear, and Billy Cundiff on Monday.
So, what happens to Cody if we sign another kicker? Cut? IR? Carry two kickers on the roster…?
Sorry Tommy, this team is no where near : “this team has the potential to be more than that.” This team doesnt even have the potential to make the playoffs. They aren’t good. Chip Kelly isn’t a good coach. Chip KLelly isn’t a good GM. Chip Kelly getting rid of good players has hurt. Chip Kelly not drafting offensive lineman has hurt. Chip Kelly cuttint starting offensive linemen has hurt. Chip Kelly cutting Lesean has hurt. Chip Kelly bring in Sam Bradford has hurt. THis team is not good.
Welcome back! After our convincing win yesterday I didn’t expect you until mid-week. Catch the game yesterday or are you just cutting and pasting previous comments – they tend to blend (maybe try to change your narrative).
You are seriously going to call that a convincing win?
Against “the best D in the league” (not my interpretation) yes, I am.
Did you see Brandon Marshall’s turnover? I havent seen a worse bonheaded play since Ronnie Brown’s goal line lateral to the San Francisco 49ers.
I did see it. Bad idea. BUT – Good teams find a way to win. We found a way. Hmm.. Good teams find a way to win…
That is not a convincing win. That’s my point. They had 56 yards of offense in the second half. That’s not convincing and that is not a good team.
Zzzzzz
WEll dont say dumbshit. That was not a convincing win. Just admit you were wrong.
Dumbsh!t…There ya go. When faced with overwhelming odds the loser always throws the first punch. Thank you for that. Now, yes it was a convincing win – accept and move on to WA next week.
it’s except jackass.
it’s accept
Your a reel looser.
Ouch, goes to the grammar correction and is dead wrong. What’s that you keep saying about how smart you are?
An you should change your last name to goat. Because I goated you in.
Marshall was desperate because the D had shut down his team
You probably have no idea what I am referring to. Do ya?
Marshall was trying to get his team going since they had only 1 first down up until the last 2 minutes of the first half. He gambled and lost.
What team did Ronnie Brown play on when he lateraled on the goal line?
He actually tried a forward pass. Please bring facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlfnGfO1FX4
Whether he tried to throw it forward or not. It was a fumble and it was the worst play in NFL history.
Youtube cowboy. He tried to throw it forward.
what difference does that make. it was a fumble and it was the worst play in NFL history.
This is the Retards narrative. She says something stupid as hell with not the slightest bit of stats or evidence to back it up. When someone rightfully corrects her, then she plays the dumb card.
One thousand upvotes, but obviously a few of us just can’t resist.
4 turnovers in your favor and you -escape- with a win. Definition of convincing according to Chip fans.
“4 turnovers in your favor” sounds like a positive
Troll.
It’s the third game of the season. The team is what it is. Undertalented. Everyone hoping for the true team – the one from the Preseason Superbowl team can go back to sleep and wake up next autumn.
rewording your previous post and re-posting 5 minutes later reeks of desperation to be noticed.
nope. Just rubbing it in. It dawned on me, the honeymoon is over. We are straight in the married stage and this team is what it is.
why not try adding to the conversation by pointing out what is/is not working. Who do you think is not talented enough?
support your arguments. show that you understand the game of football.
or you can just be a troll re-posting one thought every ten minutes.
I have stated many times what they can do to make this team better is get rid of Chip Kelly.
who on the team is “under talented”?
Sam Bradford. Gardner. Barbre. Parkey. Demarco. Graham. Barwin. Agholar. Austin. Ertz.
to be fair Parkey and probably Ertz are injured
Agholar is a rookie who hasn’t got used to the game yet
Well excuses don’t make them more talented.
http://i.imgur.com/1HWQIPa.gif
there’s a difference between injured and untalented
Just don’t, dude. You’ve already summed up exactly what he’s bringing to the table. At this point you’re just playing into his game.
trying to give him a chance to turn it around
LOL
Troll.
I’ve actually come to appreciate qq. His dogged determination is admirable. Short-sighted and lame, but his tenacity is first rate.
he’s a straight troll but at least he knows something about the team. I am sad that so many comments are devoted to talking to him instead of insightful comments about the mediocre team we support. Anyone seen the latest chipwagon article?
I hope Bradford gets in sync soon. People cant keep using the excuse that our WRs aren’t getting any separation every week.
Austin should have had 2 TDs. And Ags should have had a better game, if Bradford can find him.
Those guys kill it every week. Daily visit for me during the season.
me too glad they’re posting more frequently, wish the posts had more positive things to say….
Does he know something about the team? I mean, beyond the coach’s name?
his tenacity is admirable, but overall I’m a little disappointed in the community in their inability to ignore him. You always have to sort of circle the wagons to protect yourselves from trolls, and everyone needs to understand that the strategy is strait not responding, no matter the circumstance to anything a troll says.
Our community has been remarkably resilient to trolls over the years, so hopefully the fact that one has cracked the armor a little bit doesn’t chum the waters for other trolls.
He may mellow out and just kind of turn into a regular member if he feels accepted.
Some observations: Jordan Hicks looks really good. He was seemingly in on every play….we’very got some good ILB depth for years to come. Miles Austin….yuck, can’t get separation. Eric Rowe played 2 balls better than Fletcher or Williams did all of last year. People need to be more patient with Bradford. Had a couple good preseason games and all of the sudden his expectations changed….a lot. Nothing better to get out of a slump than have a couple guys makes plays for you. Too many dropped passes this year it’s sickening. There are only 2 guys on the planet right now that can basically put the ball on the money every time so you need guys to help out. He won’t get in a groove if guys continue to drop passes.
Don’t mean to reply to my own post….but I’m not excusing Bradford because he is missing some ‘easy’ throws…but I’m going to give him some time to work out the kinks..
yeah can’t understand all the drops — chipwagon mentions poor ball placement — lots of cacheable balls but he’s making it hard than it needs to be.
This is a poor analogy but I’m going to use it anyway. I play football every Sunday morning in which I am the QB…and even on the smallest scale (a bunch of guys playing touch football), it’s really hard to get “on fire” when your guys are dropping your best throws. It’s mental.
I jumped out of my seat on Sunday when a ball hit Mathews in the hands (again) and he actually caught it. To me it looks like he keeps looking for the TD before he secures the pass.
Dropped passes are one of the few things that gets me cussing at the tv.
What pissed me off is Bradford had a chance to show us how he plays in a clutch, must have it situation and it gets pissed away with a dumb drop. What would have happened if he lead us on a game winning drive there?
We would have won again? We did win the game ;).
I was referencing the Atlanta game, sorry for the confusion.
he looked really good there — has not looked really good sense. Almost makes you feel like he needs to get some short passes in to get a rhythm. If we’re running the ball a lot probably hard to get him warmed up.
It’s like a bball player trying to find his shot. Hopefully he finds it soon…like this week soon.
I don’t buy the non separation thing. Austin got open a few times and Bradford just missed him.
And when a WR is clearly covered, like Austin was on 4 straight 3rd downs, the QB should go to his next read.
I know its early for Sam and he may put it together but his ball placement is there yet
every other QB throws to guys who are “NFL” open and who make a play on the ball. cant expect everyone to be running free.
I think Hicks had 10 solo tackles. What a great game for his first ever start.
I don’t know if anyone has linked to this but it is a really good breakdown of Bradford struggles this past game. A few more accurate passes and this game could have really been a serious blow out. The optimist in me says that these are teachable moments for a guy coming off two ACL tears but who knows.
http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2015/09/a-momentary-sigh-of-relief-but-qb-struggles-continue.html
I was defending Bradford quite a bit the past 2 weeks. But, this week, he looked terrible. Definitely not seeing any of the accuracy that we know he possesses.
Did you read the rants from the Rams’ board I posted where some posters were laughing at the idea that SB was accurate?
Just saw that Josh Huff is second among our receivers with 39 yards…. Really would love to see a breakdown on how teams have been covering Jordan Matthews. He must be getting doubled and is still generating plays and yards. Must be tough on him having no one else.
I wouldn’t say he has no help. Sammy hasn’t been very good on a lot of throws especially to the outside. Austin and Ags both got open yesterday. And last week Cooper was open a few times.
Often he’s not coming off his first read and looks like he’s rushing out there. But the notion that WRs are never getting open is getting old
I am not saying they are not getting open, Sam is a huge culprit in this, but drops and other circumstances have led to no receiver having any production is troubling
Yeah the drops are ugly…
Mathews needs to spend all week on the JUGs machine
Jordan is a scheme mismatch against typically smaller slot corners, he also runs a lot of crossing routes which makes the throws easier for sammy b. but it’s not good that the rest of the WR doesn’t do jack — but we have all of $10m invested in that group so can’t be too surprised.
I know and Sam has been bad. But 39 yards for the second receiver is bad no matter how you slice it.
they gotta do something to get ags going, hopefully teams will focus on JM and we can get some easy passes there
Ive never seen a team get so many negative run plays, even after they adjusted and played better at O line. They are very good at going backwards at times.
A win is a win baby. I don’t care if it is good, bad, or ugly. Or it could be like yesterday all 3. All that matters is getting out relatively healthy and a W in the standings. To quote Big Red, ” It’s hard to get a win in The National Football League. Any time you can finish a game with a W, you did something to hang your hat on. We will know about injuries later. Times Yours”.
the skins are so dead next week.
That’s what people said about us all week last week
even us, but major difference is the redskins actually suck and always will
Eagles / Skins this week. Huge game, djax is probably going to try to play. Need to shut him down, almost would put maxwell on garcon and bracket dja w/ a safety. Could be a huge week for the defense as cousins loves to turn the ball over.
Somebody should be jamming him at the LOS every play
Yeah, we should be very familiar with his short comings. He’s a great player, but he’s definitely a guy you can stymie. I assume Redskins are at least a little creative, you have to put him in motion and snap when he’s moving to get him a clean release. Or give him a lot of space off the line. He’ll make some plays but he shouldn’t single-handedly win the game for them if we’re competent.
I think Thurmond will be better at defending / picking those deep balls if they are thrown.
Fitz threw 58times for 283 yds.
ya I thought SB checked down a lot, wow. I was watching it with a Jets fan. Hes really bad
yeah was at game yesterday every route was 3yd out — fans were getting pissed. Chain Gailey sucks considering how exploitable the secondary is.
Sammy B’s avg. yards per attempt – 4.41, nicky sticks 4.73, Fitz. 3.07, Colin K. -6.07, Dalton, TT, Carr, Newton all at 11 yds per attempt.
poor poor pittsburg.
its easy to take vick as your backup when you think big ben wont get hurt but geez, now what are they going to do?
that team is dead with vick in
I would like Vick as my 2..Heck right now I want him as my 1.
I hear but the only problem with that is vick sucks
This is true. Just being introspective.
Vick is better than bradford
I’m running read option, and 4 verts. Only real problem is that Vick is so injury prone you gotta get another QB.
injury prone and turnover prone, but at least he doesn’t read defenses well.
it’s tough to replace a future hall of famer
big ben is Pittsburgh’s offense
I wonder if Bair should see more time over thorton, 3 batted passes yesterday is huge, one turned into a pick…
Bair is a Bear.
Through three games, Bradford is 29th in the NFL in QB rating, at 72.5.
ouch
This is one of those times where the stats tell you what you already know. We had some brutally awful games, and it reflects that. It’s gonna take a few statistically amazing games for his stats to overcome that by the end of the year.
hows big nick doing? at 1-2?
same, they are playing almost exactly the same.
well not really the same when you subtract out the 11.3 million dollar difference in salary and think to yourself…hmmmm maybe they should have used that on an offensive lineman.
like who? we’re 23m under the cap they could have bought anyone they wanted.
Evan FUKCIGN Mathis would have been good since we have money to burn.
Kelly clearly doesn’t like it when players ask for $$ — he should have learned from djax.
I also prefer players who work for free.
Who cares if Kelly likes him or not. THis is not some gay boys club. You put players on the field who can play.
dez didnt catch it
Certainly was that and more importantly the 2nd rounder next offseason.
Not going to bury Bradford after 3 games but if he doesn’t have a notably better season than Foles it was a poor trade all around.
more ugly from jimmy k http://www.phillyvoice.com/day-after-review-sam-bradford-was-bad-against-jets/
First Eagles’ QB to start 3 consecutive games with QB rating <80 in each game since Mike McMahon.
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/mike_mcmahon_2005_11_27.jpg
wow — that’s crazy especially in the CK era. Given how hard he was on Nicky Sticks and letting the rest of the QBs go you gotta know that secretly he’s pissed at sammy b.
im sure murray is still great but Matthews looked a lot faster to the edge then murary does. and hits the hole.
I like this guy running.
This time next week, Eagles are 2-2, tied with Dallas, a game up on the 1-3 Giants and Redskins
Should I finish the sentence with ! or ?
finish it with the skins at 2-2.. also
a win and better QB play would go a long way. A deep 25 yard completion over the middle would be a nice addition
probably best to use an interro-bang ?!
Oh, so that’s what it’s called.
it is amusing that going into the game most media guys say we can’t win because the jets D is so great, then we win and they say our offense sucks.
I thought we just played against the best defense ever? no?
and won…
both things can be true, the offense needs to be better, but doing anything against that defense is a good thing I thought.
oh wait its Philly, nothing is ever a good thing.
Most Sports media members are like the tool belts construction workers wear. Small tool bags that ride the nuts or asses of the people actually working to get something done
Good one!
Connor Barwin with the Okie-Doke
https://twitter.com/zoowithroy/status/648553630786813952
saw that on the replay during the game, So great. What, Im just hanging out here looking the other way
One of the best plays of the game.
wtf, how does that even work!?
That’s the most tickled I’ve been since we had Riley Cooper hiding in the end zone.
I looked up “Darren Brown stuff.” Now I get it!
HaHa!! NICE!!
Truthfully I was even more impressed seeing Barwin playing in coverage halfway down field. He didn’t look too out of place either.
My friend’s gimmick of taking his old Hoying jersey, crossing out the name, and putting Bradford in white duct tape across the back is going to be a perfect Halloween costume.
The Colts are shuffling their offensive line, which means Herremans is being shuffled to the bench (along with their LG).
he was benched yesterday, Hugh Thornton replaced him and played even worse i hear….I’m not a crazy Andrew Luck fan, but he is that team’s only hope……Went on a colts fan blog yesterday and their number one complaint about the team is…….culture? don’t know if they are talking about the relationship between Pagano and Grigson or just the general attitude of the team
andre johnson completely not involved in the offense of that team which is a shame, should have come here.
Blame Billy Davis for a defense that since halftime of the Atlanta game has only given up 20 points in the last 10 quarters of action, and it’s only going to improve with each game they play… Blowhards ripping Billy smh, as if any old DC can allow one 100 yard rusher in like the past 20 games… Ask chip if Billy is on the hot seat and he would look at you like your retarded… This defense has been showing growth since after the 4th game of the 2013 season… People ripped Bennie but now he is everyone’s favorite, wonder who helped develop him? Silly
I’ll leave this here 😛
I like Billy. But this is Bennie’s patron saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqTdeGKfMBw
He isn’t my favorite. Let’s see what he does when he has to face a competent offense again that isn’t missing a ton of pieces.
Let’s wait and see? That only works BEFORE you bash someone.. Yous been cluelessly bashing him for almost 3 years, now you wanna wait and see? Every single time a great WR makes a catch, Billy sucks
Because they didn’t show improvement last year and yeah I wanted them to change coordinator this past offseason.
Davis had the plug pulled on him twice before after his 2nd season in both stints as the DC.
Not going to call for his firing/praising him after 3 games.
lots of people bounce around before finding success, he’s also stuck playing CK’s system.
Jeez, why don’t you lay off?
Same reason you DONT take my dick out of your throat… Take that captain save a hoe bitchassness the fuck out here
Just as lame and boring as usual.
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brandon Weeden, Tony “no Dez” Romo. I’d love to be all over billy d’s nuts i just need us to prove it against a playoff contending team. If we hold pats to under 24pts then i’d say we have a stud D, but i can’t be all over him for beasting on scrubs.
That said, run D is great and we haven’t given up a ton of big passing plays after Julio rocked us.
Blah blah blah, like i always said, by the end of the year this will grow into a top defense and we will go into the 2016 season considered a top Defense… I said this since 2013, and we are right on schedule
ok there was a lot of woofing about our defense at the end of last year when the team broke down. I’m encouraged by the playmakers we have and that the coaches tried to do something about the defense, but it’ll take more than 3 games for me to crown them.
Allegedly the Cowboys were only calling out out plays so they could help clueless Josh huff with his assignment… Good thing he was going to teach our veterans the offense LOL
I want to see huff in the backfield getting those wheel routes, or something, anything where he gets the ball in space and can make a play.
be interesting to see him fill that roll, i think we cant get off page A of the playbook
exactly, he is the one guy that just can’t get the ball for some reason. when he has it he looks really good. is he a secret weapon or what?
I tried to post this twice over on Kempski’s page. Philly voice twice put a hold on the post and eventually did not approve. Would someone please explain to me what is wrong with the following post: Hey Jimmy, what was wrong with the post that got reviewed then ultimately deleted. I did not curse, say derogatory things to any sub culture, make racist comments. All I said: Why do people rip on successful people who become billionaires,(Ie Pro Sports owners), then cry, what they perceive to be too much money to players of lesser economic backgrounds. As long as the Franchise is not handcuffed and forced to cut young talented players for economic reasons like Dallas and the A’ints. As long as the Eagles are in a good cap situation, who cares, besides Lurie, what the players are getting paid. People bash Sams contract and Maxwell contract. They bash Cooper’s too but I think that is more because of his fateful night at the concert. Unless the Eagles are forced to move on from a player like Cox because of cap hell or your Name is Jeffery Lurie, why care. It’s house money not your money.
Obviously the first part of the post was not in the original post nor did I remember what I posted verbatim. But it is generally the same. I did copy the second post because they reviewed it a second time. I may have used the word “bitch” instead of “cry” but I do not see one overly negative, disparaging remark in there.
Is Philly Voice owned by some Communist that don’t believe in free speech? Or are they offended by me because I said, “people bash successful people” ( Ie Sports Owners)?
Communist =/= facist.
(Communist / Facist) I probably could of left the last line out. I am frustrated. But did you see anything offensive or derogatory in there? Is there something, that you read, that has any reason not to be posted? I’m being serious. I’m dumbfounded that the above was not allowed to be published on the internet.
Edit: I’m not trying to argue or bash you, I just replied to you to see if you actually read anything in the post that should not have been posted to the site.
No idea, man. Maybe email them directly.
I actually did. To jimmy@phillyvoice.com . I haven’t heard back. OH well. That stuff pisses me off.
Yeah, your email probably got stuck in some junk mail filter. I seriously doubt they are trying to censor you.
I’m going to go ahead and put a hold on this post for pretending Cooper doesn’t suck.
Haha, I’m not arguing that Cooper doesn’t suck.. But serious what is with them over there? I just won’t go there and bring my “click $$ revenue” to ” PHILLY silence your VOICE” any longer.
Seriously, Long DIng/ EagleFancyQQ troll comments don’t get filtered but My comments do.. Disqus / the Individual sites, I don’t know how it all works, but they let troll drama continue.. But once someone post something against their narrative, boom.. Internet Police.
the problem is Kempski is LONGDING/Eaglefanqq…
You may be on to something. Lo/qq doesn’t cry about the o-line or the lack of depth enough to be Kempski though.
Wait..we’re in a good cap spot right now?
Relatively speaking. Just under $15 million this year according to OTC. The cap is expected to rise next off season. I’m no Howie Roseman, but it seems we are good. D3FB broke it down last week. Again I’m not a capologist or whatnot.
Eh 11mil is either 2 decent starters or one stud. Just because the cap rises doesn’t mean we’re in a good spot. since we still have starters to extend and future rookies to sign.
Argument for argument’s sake.
Between 15 carryover and figuring modest cuts/restructures (currently on hook for 131 so work down to 125) and mid point of projected cap rise (min 150 could be higher than 160) so say 155+15 we have ballpark minimum 45 million in space for next year. That’s enough to do any business we want to do.
Rookies don’t count worth shit against the cap, only the first round pick would likely knock someone off the 51 for cap purposes and we likely won’t be picking crazy high (10th overall Gurley has 2.5 mil cap hit, even Winston was only 4.6 mil)
The #Eagles are placing K Cody Parkey on IR with a groin injury, out for the season. They will sign Caleb Sturgis, sources say
Caleb ‘Low Rider” Sturgis.