Doubling Down on Disaster

Posted: November 26th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 217 Comments »

Tampa 45, Philadelphia 14

Detroit 45, Philadelphia 14

Wow. This is the worst 2 weeks in a long, long time. The loss to Miami was disappointing and frustrating, but involved more sloppy football than outright bad play.

The last 2 weeks were far worse. The Eagles got dominated. They were out-played, out-coached and anything else you want to throw in there.

The next 5 weeks will determine the future of Chip Kelly and this coaching staff. No one is getting fired 11 games into the season. That doesn’t accomplish anything. After 2 horrible performances in games the Eagles needed to win, Chip’s future becomes highly in doubt.

I have been a big supporter of Chip’s since before he was hired. But games like the last 2 weeks can’t be ignored. I don’t think Chip is done for sure, but I think he’s now on shaky ground. More games like this and he will be out of a job. If the team is either so-so or plays well, Jeff Lurie will have a decision to make. Does he end it or give Chip another year?

Bill Davis and the defense had another bad day. That is 3 weeks in a row with no takeaways. They can’t seem to cover anyone. Davis better get this defense turned around in a hurry or he could be out of a job even if Chip comes back.

Mark Sanchez has confirmed that’s he’s Mark Sanchez and nothing more. It will be good to get Sam Bradford back on the field. That doesn’t mean he’s going to get the Eagles to suddenly play great football, but he is a better QB than Sanchez.

This is a tough time to follow the Eagles. They aren’t fun to watch right now and there is a ton of negativity around the team. And they go play the Patriots in 10 days. What could possibly go wrong there…

The 2015 season has gone from frustrating to full on nightmare.


217 Comments on “Doubling Down on Disaster”

  1. 1 TypicalDouche said at 4:37 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Where has Oregon Ducker gone? Has he faded away as Chips reputation has? OD, really would like your insight as to how Chip handles such adversity as he is under at the moment.

  2. 2 Joe Minx said at 4:52 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I feel bad for OD. I think he’s as bemused as we all are.

  3. 3 ian_no_2 said at 4:55 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The Ducks didn’t lose two games in a row under Kelly, not counting a bowl + the next opening day.

  4. 4 TypicalDouche said at 6:18 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    That’s not what I’m talking about entirely, I asked how he deals with adversity which means more then just the losing streak. I’m talking about the losing, the players, his decisions, the media, the fans, his stubbornness to tinkle with his scheme when it isn’t working, so yea there was more to my post then just losing 2 games.

  5. 5 Peter said at 4:39 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    That was really tough to watch. 3 weeks ago I thought we had a good chance to get to 7-4 before our inevitable pasting in Foxborough. The offense clearly has personnel problems, but what about the defense? They’re relatively healthy and started falling apart just as the LBs got healthy again. Is it possible the defense is tired both physically and mentally from having to bail out the offense all season?

  6. 6 jaws80 said at 5:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I cant remember a more talented defense (by talented i mean should be at least be an average defense) playing so poorly, and to say “poorly” is an understatement. Five passing tds two games in a row, one game vs a rookie QB and the other Stafford, a hamster getting the 19th most rushing yards in a game in nfl history. Never have i seen a defense drop so far in one season, so the talent was there in the beginning of the season somehow. Just must be mostly coaching, Davis has to go.

    When is the last time we have seen a confused opposing QB. Past two games at least the QB seems completely confident before ball is snapped, like he can read the defense just fine and knows what will happen.

    And same goes for opposing defenses, like the middle linebackers, they seem completely confident when diagnosing Kelly’s plays, meeting the running back two yards behind the line of scrimmage in swing passes over and over.

  7. 7 Media Mike said at 5:29 PM on November 26th, 2015:


  8. 8 Media Mike said at 5:29 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    100% I was also asking for 7-4.

  9. 9 myartz04 said at 4:40 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The Hozier lyric comes to mind. “Every Sunday is getting more bleak, a fresh poison each week.”

  10. 10 ian_no_2 said at 4:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Second straight 45 spot put up by an offensive coordinator in his first year with his team. Billy Davis made Jim Bob Cooter look good after JBC had yet to reach 20 points in his first three games.

    I’ve never been a fan of Davis. He does nothing originally, so you expect him to just manage the game soundly. He doesn’t do that. It’s harder to fault Shurmur because it’s Chip’s offense, but the WCO passing isn’t working. Chip hired these guys to help him transition to NFL coaching, but they’ve been predictable and outmatched.

    With nine days off, this is a perfect time to send Davis on vacation. He has lost the defense. No one’s saying he deserves all the blame but this would seem to be necessary if the troops can still be rallied.

  11. 11 anon said at 4:48 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Its all worth it if we get Geoff .Will also say no rushing tds in 2 weeks #bend but don’t break.

  12. 12 TommyLawlor said at 4:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Do you mean Goff?

  13. 13 anon said at 5:03 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    That sounds about right. Might be time to start scouting .

  14. 14 TypicalDouche said at 5:56 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Jared Goff is totally overrated. He’s the best QB in a weak class. He doesn’t possess NFL arm strength and way too often locks in on the 1st read.

  15. 15 Mitchell said at 6:06 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Every year is a “weak qb class.” doesnt have to be Goff but it needs to be someone.

  16. 16 TypicalDouche said at 6:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I agree but in no way an I reaching for Goff. The Eagles would be better off standing pat at whatever draft position they get and take BPA regardless of position unless there is a QB there that Chip is really enamored with.

  17. 17 Mitchell said at 6:29 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Thats what they have done but the qb position remains lacking. Usually i would agree with you but qbs are worth taking shots for in a situation where you havemt had one for a long time.

  18. 18 TypicalDouche said at 6:38 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Ok Mitchell so with your logic then you wouldn’t mind the Eagles reaching for a QB when you don’t have to in this upcoming draft. The difference between Goff who will go in the top 10 and someone like Connor Cook who might go low 1st possibly 2nd isn’t enough of a difference to reach or trade any asset for a rookie QB. Honestly I would rather have RG3 or Kaepernick over any of the rookies coming out and that’s not saying much because I’m not a fan of Griffin or Kaepernick.

  19. 19 Media Mike said at 6:41 PM on November 26th, 2015:



  20. 20 TypicalDouche said at 6:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    lol I agree but my basic premise was that I would take either of those before reaching in the draft for a QB and I truly dislike both kaepernick and griffin. I’m in the belief that its a 90% chance Kaepernick will be an Eagle next year.

  21. 21 Media Mike said at 6:46 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If that piece of garbage winds up on the Eagles, I’ll be banned from every corner of the internet.

  22. 22 TypicalDouche said at 6:48 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Ohhh boy I would be prepared for some banning next year if I were you.

  23. 23 Media Mike said at 6:50 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’m up for it.

  24. 24 Mitchell said at 6:43 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I guess Im thinking the Eagles do in fact need a new qb but im not necessarily saying reach in the first. Chip still needs to get a guy that he thinks can win. A qb he can craft. No matter the round but preferably in the first 3.

  25. 25 TypicalDouche said at 6:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You are absolutely correct and I agree wholeheartedly.

  26. 26 Wilbert M. said at 12:00 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    I’m in favor of taking another marginally talented WR.

  27. 27 Insomniac said at 8:01 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The 2011 draft would like to speak with you.

  28. 28 D3FB said at 6:55 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You haven’t watched Goff

  29. 29 TypicalDouche said at 6:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I have D3, I’ve actually watched him closely just in the mindset that the Eagles may draft a QB high but which of my points is so far off base?

  30. 30 D3FB said at 7:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Arm strength concerns are overblown, he’s made 50 yard throws. He just turned 21 and has had to work to put on weight. The overall strength will come as he grows into his body and refines his mechanics.

    Locking on to reads is a product of the system. That’s the air raid. It’s alot of quick passes and single side reads where the QB may not dramatically move his head. Yes he does lock on to receivers but so does literally every college QB ever. I’ve also seen him move around comfortably in the pocket go from his WRs on teh right to the WR in the middle to the WRs on the left only to come back and hit the guy in the middle all while evading the rush and keeping his eyes downfield.

    Goff was QB 1 in September so now he’s getting the Teddy treatment where everyone wants to endlessly nitpick every part of his game. The kid is a gamer. He’s a potential franchise QB. There aren’t many of those.

    If I was a GM I would take Goff 1-1. If I’m the Eagles I trade whatever i need to in order to get him.

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 7:12 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I just think we “need” to get ahead of San Fran.

  32. 32 D3FB said at 7:13 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I think that becomes a pissing match real quick. Plus the Browns are insane

  33. 33 Media Mike said at 7:16 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Their owner is locked into getting some type of scrambling a-hole as their QB. The dumb pick of Johnny Streetball after “losing” out on RGMe showed me they really want a run around type guy. I’d be willing to bet they’d leave Goff on the board.

  34. 34 Crus57 said at 7:19 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    reckon they could be persuaded to take on RG3 or Kaep?

  35. 35 Media Mike said at 7:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’d be willing to almost guarantee that RG3&out will be a Brown. They were very bitter when then “missed” on him in 2012.

  36. 36 TypicalDouche said at 7:20 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’ve seen him make 50 yard throws as well but not with much accuracy. Even Chad Pennington made the occasional 50 yard pass with his noodle arm so that it’s possible for most QBs. I agree that the air raid offense is what has him locking onto his first read but it seems like few QBs these days that come from those offenses are successful due to the fact that they are getting rushed into playing time with no learning curve and Goff would come here with expectations to play right away. As for the Teddy treatment I never understood that in general, I thought he was the best QB in that class and still do and in no way should he have lasted that long in the draft. Now as for trading whatever to get Goff is absurd, he isn’t a transcendent , once in a generation talent so in no way would I trade just anything for him. The Skins traded the house for Griffin and he was a much better QB then Goff and even that was alot albeit they thought they were getting their franchise savior. I appreciate your opinion and thoughts on Goff but I guess we just disagree on how good he really is. At the end of the day if the Eagles did get him I would still be excited.

  37. 37 D3FB said at 8:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Carr played in an Air Raid.

    He’s not on Luck’s level. But I would put him in the same bracket as Mariotta.

    For me it boils down to him being the best bet at a franchise QB in this draft. I haven’t done a ton of work on Lynch but am lukewarm currently. Cook isn’t one. He’s like the two Michigan State QBs that came before him (Hoyer and Cousins) and his teammates hate him more than anything. Wentz could be one but I think that’s a 2 year project, before he’s ready to go and that means you’re on a new staff who want their own guy.

    I’m done with QB retreads. It’s time to go get the guy. Anything else is just dicking around hoping to stumble into something.

  38. 38 JoeBlow said at 8:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    i agree with you on Lynch, only thing that really impresses me about him is how well he moves for a guy that tall, but as a passer he’s just sort of meh

  39. 39 D3FB said at 8:17 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    It’s the big arm. He’s 6’7 with a cannon arm and mobility. And he beat Ole Miss, but his windup seems like it takes forever. I think once people really dig into Lynch’s tape and the narrative stops viewing him as “alternative to overhyped california pretty boy QB” people will cool

  40. 40 TypicalDouche said at 8:11 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    That I definitely agree with you with in if said QB is your guy then go get him, but if you’re not completely sold on him then don’t trade away the farm for him.

  41. 41 Mitchell said at 8:20 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The last paragraph was a beautiful piece of literature.

  42. 42 D3FB said at 8:26 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Hunter S Thompson aint got shit on me.

  43. 43 Mitchell said at 8:29 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If I only knew who that was. Lets switch that name out for R.L. Stine.

  44. 44 D3FB said at 8:35 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Hells Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of Motorcycle Gangs?
    Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
    Gonzo Journalism?
    The Kentucky Derby is Decadant and Depraved?

    For my money though I’ll still take Michael Lewis.

  45. 45 Mitchell said at 9:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Do you honestly think I have any time to read anything besides physiology and patient management books? My recreational reading consists of an audiobook I listen to for 10 minutes to and from the hospital. I started it in July…….. Just over halfway through now. haha

  46. 46 Insomniac said at 8:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Goff vs Derek Carr. Who’d you take?

  47. 47 D3FB said at 8:05 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I hated Carr coming out. Whoops. Biggest lesson from that evaluation was pocket awareness can be cleaned up. He’s still wildly outplayed expectations of even his biggest supporters.

    If your talking about Goff today or Carr today, that’s Carr hands down because he’s done it in the league, he’s got top 5 QB upside and a higher floor because he’s done it. If you’re talking as a prospect Goff’s profile is much stronger.

  48. 48 JoeBlow said at 8:07 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    What do you make of Brissett? if you don’t mind that is, i know this isn’t an AMA

  49. 49 D3FB said at 8:12 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Haven’t really done a ton on him. Overall I see why draftniks like him, but I also haven’t been blown away. In otherwords he checks alot of boxes but I’ve never been like oh shit who is this dude he’s awesome

  50. 50 ian_no_2 said at 4:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If Chip were ever sacked, I suppose there’d be a white socks burning and smoothie dump.

  51. 51 jaws80 said at 5:08 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    just thinking Kelly has so much infrastructure needed unique to his system, from blenders, to sleep monitors to odd sports scientist people running around, firing Kelly is a bigger deal than firing most coaches. Lurie went all in from top to bottom to the Kelly system, so i have to think Lurie will double down, commit even more to the system and give it one more year at least. But then next year Kelly just needs to show progress so Lurie can say we are improving, we are 8-8 in 2016, lets give it another year and so on.

  52. 52 ian_no_2 said at 5:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I agree. Unless Lurie is thinking otherwise, the key is really what Chip wants to do.

  53. 53 Flyineagle45 said at 4:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I hate everything about this team! I don’t know about the #’s but if this guy knew he was getting rid of shady… Why not package Maclin, shady, sign and trade Mathis and trade foles gold too the Titans?

  54. 54 Flyineagle45 said at 5:04 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If this dude leaves after trading shady and all our “good black players” I’m gonna be pissed

  55. 55 TypicalDouche said at 5:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Nick Foles is white. Don’t bring up the stupid race card argument because it’s truly pointless.

  56. 56 ChoTime said at 10:37 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Maybe he doesn’t think Foles was good.

  57. 57 Flyineagle45 said at 11:11 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I was kidding Serious Sam geez

  58. 58 Dave said at 5:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    In my haste to get together everything this morning for dinner at my house for Thanksgiving, I realized that I forgot to put on deodorant today. That’s what I call true team commitment. Team stinks, I stink too.

  59. 59 Media Mike said at 5:31 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I always keep an extra one in my desk at work just in case I do the same.

  60. 60 NinjaP said at 5:12 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Do you fire chip after next weeks embarrassing loss?

  61. 61 Media Mike said at 5:31 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    No. I still don’t fire Chip until the end of 2016.

  62. 62 Crus57 said at 6:34 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’m 90% with you on that, but if he really does lose the locker room with more than a couple of games remaining and the team still not far off playoff contention (due to how dismal our division and the NFC is) then I don’t know how he can come back from that.

    Maybe if he can somehow shift the blame to Billy D and the injuries on offense.. but I’m not even sure Chip would try that.

  63. 63 CryEaglesCry said at 5:13 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Belichick is going to run chip kelly hurry up offense and set the record for most points in nfl game if chip kelly is still coaching. . Nananana nananana hey hey. Goodbyeeeeeeeeee

  64. 64 A Roy said at 6:17 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Let us know when you move out of your mother’s house.

  65. 65 CryEaglesCry said at 5:15 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    A 3-7 team just beat the eagles so bad. Blew them out. Wild

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 6:00 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You trolled through out the entire game too?! Holy shit dude get some perspective.

    Really sad that you are either that alone or indifferent to the company you are with. Could have at least volunteered and made it a productive day if you were without plans or company.

    Showed me today just how sad and alone you really are. Do find that genuinely heartbreaking. You need to find something or someway to positively express or channel your emotions.

  67. 67 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:07 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Honestly? At this point responding to him with 2 paragraphs is probably more disturbing than his trolling.
    How is it possible that people stil read this moron, and answer him like 200 times a day basically instigating an extra 200 troll posts?
    At what Fuckin Poimt will we do our part to make the troll dissapear?
    What is so hard about seeing the name, and minimizing the comment, end of fucking story. ENOUGH!

  68. 68 CryEaglesCry said at 7:39 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Dude are you a psychiatrist. I need to come talk with you

  69. 69 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 5:17 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Let me put my Domo “What he said and what he means” translation hat on here:

    Tommy Said: “I don’t think Chip is done for sure, but I think he’s now on shaky ground.”
    What Tommy Means: “Good God, Chip finally just deep-fried his big balls today. I better start doing my homework on possible replacements.”

    Tommy Said: “Davis better get this defense turned around in a hurry or he could be out of a job even if Chip comes back.”
    What Tommy Means: “You are so dead to me, Billy D!”

    What Tommy Said: “Mark Sanchez has confirmed that’s he’s Mark Sanchez and nothing more. It will be good to get Sam Bradford back on the field.”
    What Tommy Means: “At this point, I’d take Tebow over Butt-fumble”

    What Tommy Said: “The 2015 season has gone from frustrating to full on nightmare.”
    What Tommy Means: “I will work for food, as long as it doesn’t involve writing about the Eagles anymore.”

  70. 70 TommyLawlor said at 7:38 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Funny stuff.

  71. 71 BobSmith77 said at 5:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    So much for building a team around culture including Murray. Ran like a chump today and gave almost no effort to keep plays alive or even stretch out for an extra yard or two.

  72. 72 Media Mike said at 5:28 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    “Davis better get this defense turned around in a hurry or he could be out of a job even if Chip comes back.”

    I think you meant to say “should” instead of “could” be out of a job. I want to see how Kelly can get things better in 2016, but Billy Davis needs to be gone. He has a complete inability to make any adjustments in game.

  73. 73 BobSmith77 said at 5:32 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Stat differential when Hicks was and wasn’t on the field were startling before we went down. Thought it was largely because he was playing well but one of those quirky stats due to noise and a smaller sample size. Guess not after the last 2 weeks. Can’t remember an Eagles’ defense coming apart at the seems like this due to a single injury.

  74. 74 kajomo said at 5:49 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Anyone else think we are closer to beung a good 4-3 team than a 3-4 team?

  75. 75 Media Mike said at 5:51 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You don’t need to twist my arm to get me to want a 4-3 team.

  76. 76 ChoTime said at 5:52 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Maybe closer to a 2-5 or1-6 team.

  77. 77 Media Mike said at 5:54 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Go Graham, Cox, Logan, Curry as the front 4. Barwin at SAM, Meco at Mike, Kendricks at WIL.

  78. 78 kajomo said at 5:57 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I wad thinking more for next year Si change Meco to Hicks and I think tgat is the best use of our personell.

  79. 79 Media Mike said at 5:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’d buy that for a dollar. But Curry is gone, so you’d need a new 4-3 DE type player. Taylor Heart and Beau Allen would back up Logan and Cox. Thorton is gone as well.

    But there are 4-3 LDEs to be had.

  80. 80 kajomo said at 6:01 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Curry would stay in a 4-3 because it would be worth the eagles giving him a big contract.

    Thorton would go to KC

  81. 81 Media Mike said at 6:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    In looking at their cap next year, you’d have an interesting discussion about keeping Curry on your hands.

  82. 82 kajomo said at 6:03 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’d cut Meco, Celek, And Sproles. We’d make room.

  83. 83 D3FB said at 6:51 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Curry you would retain as the LDE. You either trade Barwin or you wait a year to offload him when you have almost no dead money. Hart doesn’t really fit a 43 he’s too tall to be a DT and not explosive enough to be a LDE, so he would be gone too.


  84. 84 Media Mike said at 6:54 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I can’t get Hart into Jon Henderson mode? I think one of my favorite all time non-Eagles DT tandems in a 4-3 was when Jacksonville had Marcus Stround and Jon Henderson in there.

  85. 85 D3FB said at 8:14 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Maybe but that’s like complaining you can’t turn every six foot nothing into Aaron Donald or John Randle

  86. 86 anon said at 6:54 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Wow that looks good. Who’s in the secondary? Oh yeah 🙁

  87. 87 Media Mike said at 6:56 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If you get better pass rush out of that front 4, it’ll help the secondary.

    The better question is would Chip allow a 4-3?

  88. 88 D3FB said at 6:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Probably not and I would still prefer the 43 Under if he does change.

    Hicks- Kenricks (Kiko)

  89. 89 Media Mike said at 6:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Wasn’t running 4-3 under what Tommy postulated would be the best use of the Eagles players when Chip took over?

  90. 90 D3FB said at 7:00 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    It’s what Davis ran previously as well. Azz was really the only sign that pointed towards true 2 gap 34

  91. 91 Tumtum said at 6:13 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Not anymore

  92. 92 BobSmith77 said at 5:55 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I wasn’t that angsty either about this loss either. Last week was when I waived the flag on the ’15 season and too many other things to be concerned or thankful about today.

  93. 93 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The Defense was the one bright spot of the season, and chip took it for granted, kept piling on and on, on the backs of this defense, Til he was able to implode the defense down to the level of this offensive mess he created.
    This defense not only had to fight the opponent each week, but they also had to overcome the effects of a negligent coach and the extra pressure his offensive mess put on this defense… This coach has NEVER done a fuckin thing to help this defense, he makes it harder on them more than he helps them..
    Just look at today. defense got embarressed last week, only had a few days to recover, came into this game with an Offense that has struggled for almost 3 months, Jason Peters gets hurt right away,ma backüp QB that has been Horribke. No Ertz, No Ryan mathews(most productive offensive player), and what does chip do? Does he adjust, try to help the defense a bit since he would most likely have to ask him to win this game? Of Course not… Refused to,adjust his ridiculous tempo.. Basically all year his offense is basically rushiñg back to the bench as fast as they can. Instead of adjusting to help the defense, this fucking GENIUS had a stretch of offense tonight, that went for 5 three and outs, for a combined total of 3 minutes and 12 seconds. 5 drives combined for 3 MINUTES. Just think of the extra pressure it puts on a defense that is already fuckng falling apart?…. Basically, chip coached to try and get into a shoutout, with an offense that struggles to score 17 points a game, and a defense that was good, but has been getting worse every game for the last month.. Instead of adjusting to try and get this turned around, he stayed the course and completely crashed into a giant Iceberg.. Actually I can’t even say that. Because the Iceberg is waiting for us in new Engalnd.
    5 TDs at Home against a fuckin Rookie, 5 TDs today against a 3 win team. The offense,gets worst each week and puts MORE pressure on the offense each week, and this coach womt even attempt to try and do something different to get this turned around
    You run 5 differemt plays out of 3 different shotgun formatipns.. Your offens hasn’t done shit for weeks, the entire team has lost all its confidence, and you don’t even fucking Attempt to try and give this a spark with a big play? Teams all year have been sitting on all our screens, we put NO trick plays on Film, so defenses dont even worry about you doing a trick play and they can be as aggressive as you want… Knowing THS, And the fact you DESPERATELY NEED a Spark, your offense stalled months ago, and you can’t even attempt to throw a screen to a WR and let the WR throw a pass down field and try to catch the defense slipping? You don’t even attempt a reverse? Why because you tried one reverse with a rookie in New Years and it didn’t work? Shit, forget trick plays. How about 1 simple go route and demand Sanchez throw it down field just to take a shot (like buying a lottery ticket)…. Question, you know Riley Coop doesn’t have the speed to get open, Why th Fuck are you putting him n the field if you refuse to give him any jump ball opportunities?
    I have NEVER seen ANYTHING like this. This is common once a team is mathematically eliminated at the end of the year and has NOTHNG to play for, but I can’t recall ever seeing a team 1 or 2 games out of first place in the division with one of those games left against the division leading Giamts we have to catch. 2 wins away, 5 games to go, and you lose complete control, and faith of your lockerroom? How the hell did you manage to have you “CULTURE” CLUB quit on you while you are in 2nd place still with 5 fucking games to go? When the hell does that ever happen? THS is EPICALLY BAD!
    Can you possibly be in a worst position to need to get ready to go in Brady’s house who is on a mission to sodomize Goodell and the NFL?
    This is a mess, and please don’t take this as me excusing the defense because I couldn’t be any more disgusted with them right now… But ATleast the defense showed up for about half of the season, before having to overcome the opponent, and the insane pressure chips inept offense piled on them every week caught up to them… I’m furious with Billy Davis. But SHAME ON US if we allow Chip to scapegoat Billy, because while I have plenty of beef with billy and the defense, No one has failed more miserably than Chip kelly.. It’s one thng for your offense to fail, but to also not try and adjust and make it even harder for your defense is negligible. Chip has been so bad, that I feel like we can’t even punish anyone because it would just be a scapegoat.
    It’s one thng to fail miserably on offense, but the least you can do is Fail miserably without making it EXTRA hard for your defense … To insist on Tempo when you can’t move the ball is pathetic. Five 3 and outs for a total of 3 minutes, that’s a disgrace to do that to your defense, as if the defense Wasnt struggling enough on its own..
    Analysts are usually horrible. They rarely get anything right, but Boy did people have this team pegged perfectly going into the season when the consensus was that “This would either be a great 11 win team, or a Terribke 5 win team and there was No in between”…. Ain’t that the truth…

  94. 94 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Did somebody call for a talent infusion?

    Your score is: 6888 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 22 (HOU): Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 22 (HOU): Max Tuerk, C/OG, Southern California (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 5: Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Tyler Matakevich, OLB, Temple (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 22 (HOU): Gunner Kiel, QB, Cincinnati (B)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Denver Kirkland, OT, Arkansas (B)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Kyle Carter, TE, Penn State (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 23: Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 14: Nate Sudfeld, QB, Indiana (A)
    Round 7 Pick 14: Matt Judon, DE, Grand Valley State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 29: Byron Marshall, WR, Oregon (A)

  95. 95 D3FB said at 6:48 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You keep drafting Matakevich. He would be an ILB in our scheme. BPA is great but I don’t see anyway where his value surpasses other players when weighing for need.

  96. 96 Media Mike said at 6:50 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Considering Kendricks is brutal, Kiko is a corpse, Meco is on the way out, and Hicks is an injury ?………….ILB could be more of a need than we’d care to admit.

    But I get your point.

    I’ll be happy if we get any increase in the talent on the team at any position.

  97. 97 D3FB said at 6:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    No you won’t you’ll demand surplus perceived value.

  98. 98 Media Mike said at 7:00 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    “perceived” in your eyes! I want value.

  99. 99 JoeBlow said at 7:37 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    i kind of doubt tyler Boyd is still there in round 3

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 7:41 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I kind of think you’re right, but I can only draft who is there!

  101. 101 unhinged said at 6:07 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Jeff Lurie took a gamble by hiring Kelly, but perhaps his biggest bet was turning over personnel to Kelly as well. The blueprint for a sound football franchise imo, lies in Green Bay, Pittsburgh and New York. All of those franchises have strong FO’s that keep team-building decisions largely out of the hands of HC’s. When Howie Roseman was able to get Kelly to agree to come to Philly, he said that he and the whole FO would be looking to get the players and personnel that Kelly tells them he wants. In his first PC as Eagles HC – where he referenced Cortes’ burning his ships to prevent treason – Kelly shot down any notion that he wanted FO control. I am a Kelly fan, which derives from his ability to quickly see and identify the tendencies of his opponents. He’s got a good football mind, and he is hungry to demonstrate that on the field. What he may not be is a good delegator and a superior evaluator. It has happened numerous times that a very good HC is a not-very-good GM, and the 3 organizations that I cited always get the GM they want before looking for a HC. Losing Coughlin will be a mere blip on the Giants radar, as replacing Cowher was for the Steelers. The problem with the model that Jeff Lurie has tended to follow is the departure of the HC is unavoidably bloody. I had argued since 2008 that Andy Reid was hurting the franchise with his mediocre player selection, and I was hoping that, when the impersonal Joe Banner left, Lurie would either invest in HR who he clearly trusts, or instruct HR to find an exceptional evaluator / administrator that can work with a coach, but always has the health of the franchise as his top priority.
    I don’t know how stridently Kelly can or will defend his GM decisions, and I have no problem at all with dishing Jackson or trading Shady. As dynamically gifted as both players are, they monopolized way more $$$ than they were worth to the team. My concern is with Kelly’s “prototype” player. If “character” is the deal-maker or deal-breaker, then I believe he has got to be shorn of his GM responsibilities pronto. “Character” is subjectively defined, and recruiting and signing players must, first and foremost, be based on what they can do on the field. I don’t find any of the drafts under Kelly particularly bad, but the priority of franchise building requires above average evaluation, and so far, the best draft since Kelly arrived was the 2013 draft, and Kelly didn’t have final say that year.
    It is probable that at least one head will roll following the season, if not sooner. When that happens I want chapter and verse about what is going on right now. There is smoke in the air, and we all want to know just exactly what is burning? How does a team go completely flat in a matter of 2 weeks? The Eagles might be painful to watch right now, but now is when all eyes are on them.

  102. 102 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Sounds like a model to use at the conclusion of the 2016 season.

  103. 103 Tumtum said at 6:12 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I think the the team is fairly loaded with talent. Ironic that the talent added by Kelly may not just fit his scheme.

    Then there is the offensive line.

  104. 104 Insomniac said at 6:19 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Another 4-12 team incoming? I hope you people that thought that Chip turned around that other “4-12” team that Andy left him think that this team is awful and devoid of talent too.

  105. 105 Media Mike said at 6:19 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    All I know about 4-12 is that it’ll make mock drafting a lot more fun.

  106. 106 Insomniac said at 6:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    True. If only we had that 2nd round pick too

  107. 107 Media Mike said at 6:23 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Trade down a few spots and get it back!

  108. 108 Insomniac said at 6:24 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    but Chip is that kind of GM to trade that 2nd with the 1st pick to move up..3 spots.

  109. 109 Media Mike said at 6:26 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Who cares; I’m the kind of GM who will trade down to get extra picks!

  110. 110 A Roy said at 6:20 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Lurie stayed with AR until the team quit on him. He’ll do the same with CK. Thing is , these last two weeks are starting to look like they may have.

  111. 111 Insomniac said at 6:23 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Andy also had way more success than Chip has and he did it faster.

  112. 112 A Roy said at 6:25 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Yeah, but in CK’s defense, Andy got hisself a QB right quick.

  113. 113 Insomniac said at 6:28 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    True but Chip did take Marcus Smith over Carr and Bridgewater. I’m not the biggest fan of Bridgewater but Carr would have been good.

  114. 114 Media Mike said at 6:29 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I like Teddy and was a huge fan. I stopped obsessing over the Eagles drafting him after Foles tore it up in 2013.

  115. 115 A Roy said at 7:30 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Good point.

  116. 116 TypicalDouche said at 7:32 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Wasn’t that Howie’s pick while he was still GM?

  117. 117 Insomniac said at 7:34 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I highly doubt that Howie is to blame. Chip has always had some say, he just doesn’t want someone else to question his decisions now that he’s the GM.

  118. 118 Media Mike said at 7:40 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Every single pick made was ultimately Chip’s call. Howie’s input was there, but they were all Chip’s final pick.

  119. 119 anon said at 7:44 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Howie created the options so at the end of the day chip was picking Howies guys which he obviously didn’t like .

  120. 120 Media Mike said at 7:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Those options were created by giving the scouts Chip’s exact specifications for height/weight/speed/etc. Chip didn’t like people not answering to him from A to Z, but you’ll never convince me any of those 2013 or 2014 picks were anybody but Chip’s.

  121. 121 Media Mike said at 7:40 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha

  122. 122 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:30 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The,fire,chip discussion is pointless. We have two decades of Intel that points to Luriie not firing Chip after his first down year whether we like it or not. But after NEXT year DECISIONS will NEED TO BE MADE because no one with options goes into a lame duck year as a coach on a 1yr deal, so depending on what chip does next year, he will either earn a 2 year extension, a 5yr extension, or they work out a buyout, make it look like an amicable split voiding the last year of his deal… chip setting the bar real low this season, so even if he is already planning his exit strategy from philly, he will need to build his stock back up a little next year which won’t be hard after how bad this year will be… LUrie will NEVER,fire a coach after his first bad year, and after demanding GM power or threatening to walk, chip can’t quit after the mess he made this season, for starters His ego can’t take that type of beating to his reputation, he will be viewed as Lane Kiffin or spurrier and never be trusted with an NFL Headcoaching job again, and while everyone acts like he loves college, I THNK he really loves coaching in the NFL and after 1 bad year, im not sure he is ready to piss away any chance at a future job.. Even if he wants to leave, I Think he knows he can’t screw over Jeffrey Lurie and weasel out of this mess he created, so Ultimately lUrie and Chip will want to give it at least 1 more year.
    After this miserable season ends, chip will dissapear and take a 4 month reak from the media… He is a bright offensive coach, but any hope of success will depend on how willing he is to evolve in order to win, instead of needing to fixate on winning a specific way… At some point he will reach the conclusion that he will need to make some signifcant additions to his offense, and come to a conclusion that there are times when tempo is great, and there are times where it needs to be shelved because it can have a negative impact on other phases of the game, if your offense struggles its one thing, but don’t Łet offensive struggles bring down the rest of our team.. He also needs to be Humble and realize when his defense is the strength of hS team, he has to play to his strengths and realize when the only thing our tempo is accomplishing is putting the offense back on the sideline as fast as fuckin possible

  123. 123 MOOOoooooo said at 6:31 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Would it have made sense to sign a cheaper cornerback. Get an offensive lineman in the draft. And then sign a wide receiver such as Michael Crabtree who was easily available?.

    Why did we go WR in the first round??. Then blow the budget on Maxwell, who clearly doesnt care, when we could have kept Maclin & drafted a CB?.

    I know its hindsight but many people were saying this before the seasons start.

  124. 124 Media Mike said at 6:33 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    What killed me at CB is when the Denver kid didn’t hit the market.

  125. 125 Media Mike said at 6:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I know DeMarco Murray has been playing at a level far less than what we’ve paid him, but I don’t get him being the focal point of the ire today. The 5 guys “blocking” for him are a bunch of torn up female genital parts; especially in run blocking. Murray could be playing better, but this line is putrid.

  126. 126 Crus57 said at 6:54 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You could find a better metaphor, female genital parts are pretty damn tough (see: childbirth)

  127. 127 Media Mike said at 6:54 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    will edit.

  128. 128 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Pending the rest of the results this weekend; the Eagles are picking 7th.

    That could get interesting in a hurry.

  129. 129 anon said at 6:55 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Omg Dallas getting blown out at home season on the line. Fire everyone!!!!!!

  130. 130 anon said at 6:56 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Romo collarbone again . Fire everyone!!!!!!!!

  131. 131 Media Mike said at 6:57 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I blame Greg Hardy.

  132. 132 ChoTime said at 10:43 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Damn. I was hoping they would win a few more games to give them worse draft position.

  133. 133 TypicalDouche said at 6:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    So the best offensive line ever can’t open holes in the run game and now has gotten their QB hurt again. The Eagles are terrible but watching Romo limp off the field is satisfying. (And I’m not applauding the injury I’m more making fun of the oline that is supposed to be amazing)

  134. 134 Media Mike said at 6:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    There is nothing wrong with the Dallas running game that wouldn’t be fixed for next year by giving the Eagles a 2nd round draft pick for Murray.

  135. 135 Crus57 said at 7:01 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    But Mike, why would they want to do that when absolutely anyone can run for 2000 yards behind that line?

  136. 136 Media Mike said at 7:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Anybody named DeMarco Murray.

  137. 137 JoeBlow said at 7:32 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    yea i get sooo sick hearing about how great their o-line is. it’s good, but it’s far from this unstoppable force it’s made out to be

  138. 138 Media Mike said at 7:01 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Read if you dare! This is horrifying.

  139. 139 the midatlantic said at 7:12 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Brock Osweiler

  140. 140 Fufina said at 7:16 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    RG3 or Kaep as the vet options. I think we need to go with a rookie QB but we will see.

  141. 141 Media Mike said at 7:17 PM on November 26th, 2015:


    But I’m with you on adding a rookie.

  142. 142 Fufina said at 7:27 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I hate Kaep, and think RG3 is ruined at this point, but both will be available next year, and honestly the only vet options who are better than sanchez (gulp)

  143. 143 Media Mike said at 7:30 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Sanchez is under contract for next year at least. And if we do indeed draft a guy to play QB, you could do worse than Sanchez (see Kaep / RGKnee) as a caretaker until the rookie is ready to play.

  144. 144 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:39 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If chips culture club failed Him miserably… I doubt his solution is to make the leader of his Team, a guy like Kap who fails miserably to conduct himself as a leader whenever faced with adversity,,, KAp and RG3 aren’t guys you want leading yPur team when adversity strikes.. Forget all the other flaws, THS is a fatal flaw at the QB position… Lol imagine chip with KAp who stops talking to his teammates and coaches when things go bad LOL.. No chance…. and then there is the part about them completely SUCKING!

  145. 145 Insomniac said at 7:35 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    No to Kaep.
    RG3 you could bring him into camp but I think he’s done as a starter

  146. 146 Media Mike said at 7:17 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    won’t be on the market.

  147. 147 SteveH said at 11:31 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’ve discovered the answer to our problems… Scott Tolzien.

  148. 148 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:04 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    This game will basically be remembered as the Chip Kelly version of the wInston Justice massacre at the hands of Osi Umenyuora..
    ROWE hasn’t played on defense in God knows how long, has to come in the game, and we hung him out to dry and let Calvin pick on him all night… what makes it worse is its not like we couldn’t give him help because we were busy blitzing Guys and getting pressure on their QB.. HELL NO… We gave their QB all day to calmly pick on a friggin Rookie in his 3rd game against .
    Turnstile Tobin gets abused more and more each week
    Why would ANYTHNG change? When no one is held accountable.. Bellichick willl bench his starting RB the rest of the game if he fumbles or misses a blitz pickup, yet there is NOTHNG anypne can do to get chip to bench them, let alone make them innactive or actually cut/fire someone who deserves it. The players have lost all confidence in themselves and their coaches (so much for the culture club), and to make it worse, no ones job is ever at risk, so why would ANYTHNG realistically change?
    NO accountability. Miles fucking Austin proves that every week… After seeing the worst WR performance imaginable two weeks by Austin, continuing to suck again last week, this COMPLETELY WASHED UP player is not only still in the game, he is a fucking 3rd down Target while it was still a competitive game. Even Aikmen scoffed at what a bad route he ran giving sanchez no chance. This coach still has this joker in the game on crucial 3rd downs.. No one gets benched, no one is made innactive to send a message, no one get cut or fired.. Nothing, no accountability… If this coach had ANY balls, he would have taken his highly paid RB and chewed his ass out in front of the entire team Whule showing them all the video of power back Demarco sliding to avoid a collision with a 190lb corner, and after showing that to the entire team, he should have had the balls to make Demarco Innactive for the Tampa bay game.. Maybe we still lose to Tampa, but at least the players might still resect or believe in you

    Miami was Horrible… fired their coach, and sparked the team to have some better games,
    lions fired two front office nerds, and scapegoated an OC and Detroit is now on a 3 game winnings steak also having won in Greenbay for the first time since 1993…
    Yet Miles Austin not only still has a job, he stil is on the field getting 3rd down targets… Inexplicable
    Why the fuck is Riley Cooper here? Everyone knows he can’t get seperation. It’s not his fault, it’s who he has always been. If you aren’t going to throw it up and give Coop jump ball opportunities, there is NO POINT putting hm on the field

    Nothing more dissapointing than the LB.. We spent the pffseason arguing because we had too much ILB talent, we lose the 3rd round rookie that no one wanted, and there goes ALL OUR QUALITY ILB play…. Did Mufasa wake up Old one morning? Before his hamstring strain, I was in Awe of how good he looked coming back so Quickily from his ACL. He was playing down hill. Cracking RBs and Beasting in the run, yet since he came back from the hamstring injury he is terrible. He can’t get off a single block. Meco and Kiko combined for 5 tackles the past 2 games..I barely even saw kIko on the field today. But I dont blame Kiko. He clearly ismt right yet and the dude keeps trying to fight to come back fast for us so he is showing heart in his own right and is still young enough to where I still have Longterm hope for him… After a few bad weeks coming back from his ACL,Mychal Kendricks started flying around and had a sack in 3 games in a row finally playing to his potential, today he was just as bad as everyone else… Crazy, how this is officially jordan Hicks defense. He is the new QB going forward and the rest are playing to be his side kick…
    After a rocky start, Byron Maxwell went on like a 5 game stretch of solid football, he was horrendous today. He must have given up like 8 catches and was in on two incompletions.. What’s worse is it was so soft off coverage,clearly lost faith in either himself, or the help around him, or the scheme/techniques they asked Him to use, because the kid didn’t Even compete today… BG made a play against the run early, was shutout the rest of the day after looking dominant 3 weeks ago in dallas
    Turnstile Tobin might be the worst player on this team, he better not be on the roster again next year
    We know Mark Sanchez Sucks, but can he at least suck without getting jordan Mathews crippled? How many dangerous kill shots is he going to lead mathews into?
    Where the fuck is Josh Huff? You know, the bonehead who rarely plays yet still leads our team in touchdown receptions? Instead of wasting our time with Miles Austin. Why are we not givng huff 5 opportunites per game?
    5 TD passes in each of the last two games, while also getting ran on, and now we have to go into Tom Brady’s House who is on a mission to destroy GOODELL and the NFL? We are going to get Bradford killed by Chandler Jones..
    I have never seen a team quit on a coach like this while they are in second place of their division with 5 games left… Never seen ANYTHNG like this… Normally this happens once you are mathematically eliminated..
    Lol these next 10 days aren’t going to be pleasant, and then we have a massacre by the Patriots as the cherry on top

  149. 149 Media Mike said at 7:05 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Will the next 10 days be more pleasant if they cut a player or two?

  150. 150 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:35 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Temporarily… Cutting Miles Austin,and Firing the WR coach would be a start, temporarily quench my bloodthirst Til we go take our asswhooping from Patriots.
    Unfortunately Chip is a joke who holds no one accountable so it won’t happen,. If he won’t bench miles Austin after stealing money the past 3 weeks, and continues to give him 3rd down opportunities, if Chip didn’t make Murray innactive for a week after sliding to avoid a CB, he damn sure ISNT firimg or cutting anyone… bellchick benches his best Players for a mistake, yet chip made it clear to our players that there is NOTHNG they can do to lose their jobs, Which helped add to losing all faith in chip and we find ourselves in this mess…
    And even if he grows a pair and fires Austin and the WR coach, we,cant cut or fire anyone that really matters.. As mad as i am with Billy Davis, chip has been so terrible, that he doesn’t deserve to be able to scapegoat Billy, at least the defense showed up half the season, while the offense has been a mess since day 1…

    His “culture club” has become a CULTURE of soft, gutless, LOSERS..
    After Miami loss I talked about how all our losses came down to the end, we had a chance to win every game, and that its not like it looked like we didn’t belong on the field against our opponents. I had to open my mouth, the next two games, we imploded and looked like we had no business on the field against Tampa and Detroit..
    I can’t think of 3 teams I would favor us to beat right now…

  151. 151 Media Mike said at 7:39 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    You had me at Austin and their loser WR coach. I’ve hated that guy ever since he stirred up stuff with my boy DeSean!

  152. 152 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:45 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Lol and he was very vocal about wanting to extend Cooper, he allegedly loves him, yet hasn’t figured out Coop can’t get open and is worthless if you don’t give him jump ball opportunities..
    Id Fire my Boy Billy Davis today and make Azzinaro the defensive Coordinatir but chip doesnt deserve to scapegoat anyone because he failed more than all our coaches..,Chips failure also makes it harder on the defense, lol silly tempo went 3’and out 5 times in a row today for a combined total of 3 minutes,.. Screwing up the offense isn’t enough, chip has to take the defense down with him to…smh..
    It’s also hard to Blame Billy because it’s not like Chip gives him the freedom to run whateber defense he sees fit,.. billy is running what chip wants, so it’s hard to even know what to blame billy for, and what is being further effected by chips limitatiòns

  153. 153 Media Mike said at 7:46 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’ll blame Billy.

  154. 154 Fufina said at 7:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    If you fire Chip lets do an inventory of the team – Offense Edition:

    QB – Nothing
    RB – Murray/Mathews (Sproles is getting cut in 2016) (both are more suited to a power running scheme)
    FB – Nothing
    WR – 2/3 young WR’s but no experienced vet (Cooper is cut 2016)

    LT – Johnson long term starter
    OG – no long term answers 2-3 journeymen
    C- Until this year Kelce was an excellent zone blocking C… scheme dependent
    Peters – due 8+mil next year and has struggled this year at times before injuries, team could look to move on or keep for 1 final year

    So we need at least 1 vet WR, a QB and extensive OL work, with a possible OL scheme change to match your RB’s (who you have to keep next year).

  155. 155 Fufina said at 7:15 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Defense is more interesting.

    We have a talented front 7, which is pretty scheme flexible.

    I would love a 4-3 with Curry (resigned)-Logan-Cox-Graham, and Kendricks, Alonso and Hicks as your 3LB’s. Would need 1-2 depth DL but would be a fun set. (would probably trade Barwin but could keep as a 3rd down rusher)

    Secondary we have Maxwell and Jenkins signed long term, and Thurmond could be resigned. Need another CB, but outside of that you have a decent (if not elite) unit.

  156. 156 Aaron said at 7:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    decent, really, drinking too much wine tonight?

  157. 157 Fufina said at 7:26 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    New coach and situation, with less pressure with pace of play and this defense can be a lot better than it has shown last 2 games.

    It is amazing the impact loosing Hicks has had on the run game, but lets be real these last 2 games have been significant outliers compared to the rest of the year.

  158. 158 anon said at 7:11 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Cowboys trying to ruin our tank .

  159. 159 JoeBlow said at 7:28 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    i know right??? this is gonna turn into some sixers/lakers who can tank worse….or should i say who can tank better?

  160. 160 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:23 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I can’t lie, I’m jealous of the Panthers, and I never been a Cam Newton fan
    It’s true, Mike Shula (Dons Shula son) Couldnt have constructed a better offense to excentuate the Talemt and skill of his players.. Masterful job,. And their GM has done a great job drafting, building a nasty physical fast front 7, and a OL that can be powerful in the run game.. Take away the mobile QB element, thr Carolina run plays are basically my dream for a team with Murray and Mathews.. My understanding is Ron Rivera is a defensive coach that leaves the offense to Shula, and if that’s true, much respect to him, not that it’s some high powered offense, but because it fits perfectly with the talemt he has Cam, Jonathn Stewart, Mike Tolbert, Olsen, Funchess starting to make some plays. They would be nasty if they had Kelvin Benjamin..
    Mike Shula Taylor’s his offense around his players… While no one will EVER convince me that Shotgun is the BEST WAY to Run demarco Murray… Not sure why we wouldn’t run WHATS best for our highest paid offensive player?
    I’m hoping the Panthers or Vikings make the Super Bowl.. Lessor evils..
    1) I want to see Rodgers and McCarthy keep choking and become the next PeYTON/Colts, 1 SB win and done,..
    2) Damn sure don’t want to see those seattle jackasses win
    3) DESPISE Bruce Arians, and I hate even more that he is doing a good job
    4) DONT really trust the Falcons
    hate all those teams more, and I feel like Keachly and the Panthers Defense gives us the best chance of keeping the Patriots from winning another,SB… Id rather see MIke Zimmers vikings win, but Panthers have a better shot against Patriots….. It also warms my heart that they put an end to the cowboy comeback hype..
    Hopefully Romo ISNT seriously hurt… We need Romo to keeo stringing that franchise along for as long as possible before they smarten up and start looking for a QB..,GET WELL SOON ROMO!!!

  161. 161 JoeBlow said at 7:27 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    And this time last year, people were calling for Ron Rivera’s job and thought he was a joke

  162. 162 CryEaglesCry said at 7:39 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Cry eagles cry on a boat to chip kelly

  163. 163 Froogal Stoodent said at 7:40 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    The Eagles scored 17 against Tampa Bay, not 14.

    Not that it matters, but figured I’d point it out for purposes of journalistic integrity 🙂

  164. 164 JoeBlow said at 7:49 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Not only did the Eagles get embarrassed again, but Sixers phenom rookie Jahlil Okafor punched somebody out on video last night in Boston…….it’s getting very dark in the philly sports scene

  165. 165 Media Mike said at 7:51 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I think Okafor punching that Boston loser was awesome. People need to learn to whom they’re speaking if they’d like to run their mouths.

  166. 166 BobSmith77 said at 9:53 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Um no. That’s assault.

  167. 167 Joe Minx said at 7:51 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Most fight anybody in this town has shown in months.

  168. 168 Media Mike said at 7:53 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Exactly. And if Okafor is willing to put up that much fight, I’m willing to punch people in the face from other fan bases as well!

  169. 169 Gian GEAGLE said at 7:50 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I can’t believe we are just gifting the crappy Giamts the division… As bad as we are, if bet us to beat the Giants 7/10 times… We OWN them even when we aren’t good and we are gifting them the division and pissing away the great opportunity we have to play them the last game of the season.
    We don’t deserve success, and I want a better draft pick to screw up, but part of me is sickened that we are just gifting the division to such an average Giants team,,. That’s what’s really scary, how the hell do you lose your lockerroom and have a team quit on you when they are in 2nd place, OWN the division leader and play them the last week of the season? How do you lose your lockerroom NOW? I can at least understand them quitng on you when we are mathematically elimnated, but this is a special type of Dysfunction…

  170. 170 Media Mike said at 7:50 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Go Washington! F the Giants.

  171. 171 jaws80 said at 7:58 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    that is a good point about timing. way too early in a season where last week a victory would have given them the lead in a division. What is that about? that is some new low level of losing the locker room. If I just meditate on this too long, i will be all for getting rid of all of the players, players who could not get worked up to fight for a division lead against the bucs, or a victory today and still be close, nowhere close to eliminated. Except for Sproles, at least he had emotion and yelled at Sanchez last week and fought hard in a run this game at the end.

  172. 172 JoeBlow said at 8:06 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    yea this is what i don’t get either. 3 weeks ago they go on the road and have an emotional OT victory over a division rival who beat you at home earlier in the season in a game that you played so poorly in. Then the next week you are at home against a struggling Miami team and if you win you are most likely tied for first place. Things go great in the first quarter and all of a sudden Caleb Sturgis misses a kick and the team just nosedives, it was like someone just flipped a switch and this team turned into a bunch of lazy bums. It’s really odd

  173. 173 ChoTime said at 10:50 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    That Dallas game was actually rather concerning. Sam had a few good throws, and Sturgis hit a pressure kick, but we beat a bad team with a backup QB by the skin of our teeth.

  174. 174 JoeBlow said at 11:06 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    eh, i didn’t look at it that way….They were as desperate as we were to get a win

    I’m more or less talking about just they way they played in that game, there was a sense of urgency, they ran the ball well and threw it fairly well and generally looked excited to be playing (although i was sitting in the upper deck at the game, so i couldn’t see the up close reactions to players faces like i can on tv) They came home for the Miami game and just turned numb in the 2nd quarter of that game. Almost like they didn’t care anymore

  175. 175 Tumtum said at 8:38 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Skins aren’t out of it. I can’t decide who I would be less upset for winning it.

  176. 176 BC1968 said at 7:53 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I feel neutral because Dallas got blasted too. To a better team, but I’m actually happy. I’ll enjoy the rest of this season. Corey Brown’s gmom lives in my apartment building and I walk her dog sometimes, so I can root for her to see her grandson go far in the playoffs and possibly more. He’s only a number 4 receiver, but hey, she’s happy.

  177. 177 Insomniac said at 7:56 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 16 (NYJ): Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 16 (NYJ): Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M (A-)

    Round 3 Pick 5: Max Tuerk, C/OG, Southern California (A)

    Round 3 Pick 14: Travin Dural, WR, LSU (A)

    Round 4 Pick 14: Ricky Seals-Jones, WR, Texas A&M (A-)

    Round 5 Pick 13: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota (A)

    Round 5 Pick 23: Jacoby Brissett, QB, NC State (A+)

    Round 6 Pick 14: Dadi Lhomme Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech (A-)

    Round 7 Pick 14: Antwaun Woods, DT, Southern California (B+)

    Round 7 Pick 29: Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado (A+)

    Blind draft since I haven’t watched tape at all

  178. 178 Media Mike said at 7:57 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Yeah boy! That is some nice work!

    And I know the posting of mock drafts irks some people, but it turn into my only way to be excited for the rest of the season if we’re not likely to go on a playoff run.

  179. 179 Insomniac said at 7:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I had some hope for this season but that ended today.

  180. 180 Media Mike said at 7:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I hear you, so now we have hope for next season.

  181. 181 Tumtum said at 8:36 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Nah man let it out. I’m really not a draftnick though so it bums me out!

  182. 182 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:00 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Now that Tommy has turned to the dark (but enlightened) side where we recognize Kelly as a failure… Spadaro is next. Go!!

  183. 183 Insomniac said at 8:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Fire the towel boys too!!

  184. 184 GENETiC-FREAK said at 8:52 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Give Chip another year.. His 1st season with full control the offseason so many changes from then i knew its gonna be a grinder of a year.. Let him finish what he started.. I wanna see him get a real QB.. One that can play QB pass the ball accurate n is not a statue.. Beef up the OL.. That interior are backups in my eyes.. Kelce has taken massive step back makes me think its the 2 guys beside him making him look bad.. Billy D needs to go.. Tools n talent to get the job done but can produce pressure, cant adapt, n cant stop the 3rd downs.. 1 more year Chip then re-evaluate

  185. 185 fran35 said at 10:59 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Unfortunately, most coaches who fail in the NFL just lacked the QB that you just described. I happen to think Chips entire system is unsustainable in the nfl. You can’t hang your defense out to dry as much as he does.

  186. 186 mark2741 said at 9:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Offense looked great when the initial starting 5 OL were on the field….then it all went to hell quick.

  187. 187 anon said at 9:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Just too much going bad this season .

  188. 188 AsianEagle said at 9:18 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    How much of the D’s performance is on coach Azz?? Who really knows what happens behind closed doors but the days of Billy D’s smooth talking like Lando Calrissian are behind him. U like how I’m getting ready for Star Wars lol…

  189. 189 RobNE said at 10:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Hello Princess! Nice reference

  190. 190 jaws80 said at 9:18 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Given that Lurie is likely to give Kelly another year, i just see my dumb self in the offseason rationalizing it being that Kelly just needs an offseason to return to a small cabin in the tundra of New Hampshire, Rocky style comeback training, and find himself again. I will think, “It got so bad that not even Chip could be so stubborn as not to change things around and he will find his creative side again and come in with real changes to the offense (and get a new defensive coach) that will take the league by surprise….” then i will get hyped again for the start of the season, and on the very first play Kelly will have Bradford throw a swing pass to Murray for a two yard loss.”

    This is why i dont think he can return. He is not likely to change, we have learned that about him and he keeps telling us that, over and over. It is not the plays, it is the execution by the players. Coming back for another season, he will likely spend the offseason trying to figure out how he can get his players to better execute the same plays.

    After the first quarter of this game, it just seemed Kelly with his paper in front of his mouth must have known nothing he will call will work very well, but he has no choice but to call the plays, they are the only plays of course his team knows, so just went through the motions, and players knew the same thing so went through the motions. Never had this feeling before with a team, sure, teams have sucked before during games, but never a sense that it was hopeless from a fundamental system level of things.

  191. 191 Allen3000 said at 9:44 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’ve said all along that Chip will most certainly be given the opportunity to coach at least 1 more season beyond this year. However, the fact the he’s the GM complicates things. Will he make tough personnel moves? For instance, Billy Davis HAS to go. I don’t care how nice he is or how much the players may like him. The Saints coaches and players revered Rob Ryan and that didn’t stop them from firing him mid-season. Billy’s track record is arguably worse than Ryan’s. Will Chip be comfortable firing Billy and other coaches who are under performing? Furthermore, who the heck is going to want to coach alongside Chip? I can’t imagine this is an ideal place to coach defense.

    Back to my original thought. I would have to imagine that Lurie is definitely questioning his decision to make Chip the GM. How will he – if he does at all – approach Chip in an effort to strip some of those powers? And if such a conversation takes place, how will Chip respond?

    My gut tells me that Chip is a fighter and he wants to see this thing through. However, I think his strength (his vision and persistence) is also weakness. I can’t see Chip deviating from his rigid set of beliefs (i.e. running out of shotgun, running the 3-4, relying on slow, run-blocking WRs, up-tempo offense, etc.).

    It’s not that we’re 4-7 that people are so down on Chip and the team’s future. It’s the nature in which we are getting beat as of late. It’s the fact that the team has clearly regressed and clearly lacks talent (in some areas) and confidence right now.

  192. 192 anon said at 9:47 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I think the team has talent just not being put in a good position to succeed. If you gave the team to a decent dc I’m sure he’d make the unit look good. But today players were getting disrespected and that’s no bueno.

  193. 193 Allen3000 said at 10:03 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I agree that we have plenty of talent – especially on defense. Personally, I have never felt comfortable with us transitioning to the 3-4 and feel we were/are better equipped for success running a 4-3. I’m not saying the 3-4 can’t work. It can and obviously does for some teams. Problem is, we don’t have a consistently disruptive OLB to really make it work.

    Beyond scheme, coaching (or should I say lack of coaching) is a major issue. Billy might be a nice guy and all, but the results speak volumes. He’s never led a great defense, let alone a mediocre unit. I refuse to believe that he is maximizing our players full potential and ‘putting players in a position to succeed.’

    Billy has to go. But who is going to replace him? Do you honestly believe Chip will be able to attract top flight coaches? I want to see it work, but I have too much doubt right now.

  194. 194 DrFeelgood said at 10:04 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    my gut tells me chip is an arrogant, overmatched fraud that can’t evaluate NFL talent and cant coach when he is not able to cheat and play a fake easy schedule like he did at Oregon….

  195. 195 Allen3000 said at 10:10 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Hyperbole much? I’m not Chip’s biggest fan right now, but I think his track record speaks for itself. He may prove to be a flop in the NFL, but a bad coach he is certainly not. Bad coaches don’t just luck their way from coaching Div III teams to an NFL team in the short span he did.

    Chip has had mild success already. He’s coached the Eagles to back to back 10 win seasons. He’s proven he CAN win in the NFL. His track record as a GM is looking abysmal and his long term coaching prospects with the Eagles is looking bleak. Regardless, he’s still a great coach despite your opinions. He might be a BAD coach for this Eagles team, but he’s still a great coach who’s experienced a TON of success.

  196. 196 BobSmith77 said at 9:57 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Romo reinjured the same clavicle again. Hard not to second guess that he came back too soon and serious questions about his durability going ahead forward.

    Once you break and reinjure the clavicle again so soon, it is going to be prone to reinjury in the future. Problem is they have huge money tied up in Romo through ’17 and a decent cap hit if they cut him in ’18.

  197. 197 ChoTime said at 10:52 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    We should trade for him.

  198. 198 Mr. Magee said at 12:06 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    Dallas’ problems are small compared to ours’

  199. 199 DrFeelgood said at 10:02 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    even tommy ‘chip’ lawlor says chip could be in trouble if he doesn’t turn things around…the most hilarous understatement in history…
    Hey Lawlor…your chip support makes people think you are a moron…grow a pair of nuts and write in your stupid blog how friggin bad this fast talkin fraud is…and that he should be fired yesterday…he cannot coach men…only boys when he can cheat like he did at Oregon

  200. 200 laeagle said at 2:06 PM on November 27th, 2015:

    Go away and never come back

  201. 201 DrFeelgood said at 5:38 PM on November 27th, 2015:

    ok should I hang out with your mom or your wife….?

  202. 202 anon said at 10:04 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Watching Chicago and Detroit right their seasons is depressing

  203. 203 BobSmith77 said at 10:09 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Still think the Lions are frauds but if the Bears can pull this game out, I think they’ll sneak into a WC spot. Their remaining schedule is just so favorable although they do have to beat the Vikings on the road (tough task since Vikings are 5-0 so far at home and played very well there).



  204. 204 RobNE said at 10:11 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Our remaining schedule was favorable

  205. 205 BobSmith77 said at 10:14 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Yeah but the Bear are legitimately playing well for more than a month now and should have won last week vs Broncos.

    If anything, I see ATL not making the playoffs (in part because of their remaining schedule) and either MIN/GB has to win the NFC Central.

    Leaves 1 WC up for grabs. If CHI wins today, I like their chances although I can see why people are getting on the TB bandwagon or favoring SEA too.

  206. 206 Bob Brewer said at 9:38 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    GB beat Minnesota at home last week so they can’t be 5-0 at home.

  207. 207 Mitchell said at 10:21 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Round 1 Pick 6 (S.F.): Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 5: Kyle Murphy, OT, Stanford (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, Louisville (C-)
    Round 4 Pick 15 (N.O.): Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 14: Bronson Kaufusi, DE/OLB, Brigham Young (B+)
    And so it begins. I really have no idea about any of these players and have much to watch. I gave up the 2016 1st, a 2016 3rd and a 2017 1st for Goff. The simulator had the Eagles at 14. It was too much for the trade but if that situation plays out and there are bidding teams, you have to get your guy. I somewhat regret the Fields pick but Kaufusi is a 6’7″ behemoth with a basketball background. I would love some freakish long edge rusher if they stay in the 3-4 with some potential. Sutton seems like a long corner with decent grades. I think lineman from Stanford are usually pretty good, no? I know Iowa/ Wisconsin churn out some big uglies.

  208. 208 The original AG said at 11:03 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    It is what it is and we are not a good team at all. I’m not mad, just anxious to get the season over with. I know the coaches say they come up with a game plan, but it seems the same every week.

    Defense: We get beat 3rd and whatever too much. The slant and crossing routes have continued to burn us and it seems like nothing has changed.

    Offense: It’s like the design is to run the same 4 plays all game long. I know Sanchez is bad, but I feel like defenses already know what’s coming.

    I want to see Chip get next year, but I have to see some major changes. Whether we think Shurmur, Davis, or any of the other coaches are good – he has to shake it up. What does that look like?

  209. 209 Tumtum said at 11:38 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Sort of have to agree that Chip should get another year. He is kind of like a high draft pick you have to let develop. I need to see how he responds to this season.

    Shake up the coaching staff and really look at the philosophy.

  210. 210 Mitchell said at 11:41 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    Maybe this is exactly what he needed. Maybe he’ll question some things and go back to what made the team good in 13.

  211. 211 jaws80 said at 11:03 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    thinking that Kelly’s offensive system’s affect on the defense just might be his fatal flaw. For whatever reason, be it “cant get first downs” or “the fast pace”, i am pretty sure it works out that the defense plays a full game more than the average nfl team. Whether or not this matters on a physical level, at least Williams let us know it affected them mentally, can give them a victim complex, which will make their muscles more sore, legs more tired, and give them an excuse as players to latch onto.

    and putting myself in the defense shoes, they might have a right to be resentful to the offense and chip. the team will live or die with the offense, so no matter how well the defense is, Kelly’s offense is feast or famine, and if in famine mode team will lose no matter what defense does. And if offense is in feast mode, the offense will get most of the credit. So a defense that feels like it is a victim of the head coach will towards the end of the season play like they did last year and play like they are now.

    And this cant be fixed. Kelly will always have a second fiddle, resentful, excuse ready defense. Actually, they are the only defense in the league, maybe history of the league that has a built in excuse before the first snap of the season.

  212. 212 JohnDoe610 said at 11:46 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    I’ve been a big Chip supporter mainly because I didn’t think there was a better option. A couple more weeks like this I say we fire Chip and hire Vic Fangio. Even if Chip hangs on I say we fire Billy Davis and throw money at Vic Fangio to be the DC.

  213. 213 Wilbert M. said at 12:05 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    I’d also replace him with my Uncle Vic or my cousin Vic. He needs to go now. The situation is toxic. Jeffrey needs to work it out niw.

  214. 214 Wilbert M. said at 11:55 PM on November 26th, 2015:

    1) The offensive scheme doesn’t work. DeMarco coming to a stop to take a hand-off or tripping over the QB’s feet is painful to watch.
    2) Crossing patterns worked early in the season, but now we don’t seem to have any offensive plays to get a WR open.
    3) No idea what kind of defense we’re playing – if it’s press, we don’t hit the guy, if it’s man. we’re no where need them, if it’s zone, we leave vast areas uncovered.

  215. 215 Mr. Magee said at 12:03 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    So you’re saying all in all things are looking up at the moment?

  216. 216 Mr. Magee said at 12:01 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    Lurie has likely already decided the future of chip kelly… The next 5 games do not matter one little bit

  217. 217 Wilbert M. said at 12:08 AM on November 27th, 2015:

    I’d like to see it happen now. No reason to have the team play in that type of environment.