Duce is Numero Uno

Posted: January 2nd, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 384 Comments »

And so it has begun.

Good for Duce.

He was drafted by the Eagles way back in 1997. He played for Ray Rhodes and Jon Gruden. He played under Andy Reid from 1999-2003 before leaving in free agency to go be a Steeler. He came back to the Eagles as an assistant in 2011 and then stayed on when Chip Kelly took over in 2013.

The thing you love about Duce is that he’s worked his way up the football ladder as a player and coach. He was a junior college player before earning a spot at South Carolina. He was then a 3rd round pick and had to sit behind Ricky Watters and Charlie Garner. Duce earned playing time and eventually became the heart and soul of the offense in 1999.

When Reid gave Duce a coaching job, it was bottom of the barrel. Duce started as an intern and then became a STs assistant. Kelly hired him to coach the RBs in 2013.

Nothing has ever been given to Duce. He understands the process of working your way from the bottom to the top. A lot of former star players don’t have the desire or patience to do this. I have a lot of respect for those players who become coaches and grind away just like everyone else in the coaching community.

I think Duce is a good leader and communicator. Going from working with a small group (RBs) to a whole team is quite a jump and that will probably keep him from getting the job, but he’s worth talking to. Duce has seen the Eagles from a lot of different perspectives. Β He can offer thoughts on what this team needs to get back into being a title contender.

Duce certainly understands the organization, the community, the fans and a lot of other factors.

Some people will view this as just taking care of the Rooney Rule. I don’t think that is true at all. Duce has been part of the Eagles organization for a long time. I think Jeff Lurie is genuinely interested in talking to him and getting his perspective on things.

The Eagles had to get away from the Andy Reid tree in 2013. They needed an outsider to shake things up and bring some new ideas to the table. At this point, you could go back to the Reid tree. Duce has been around enough other coaches and systems that he wouldn’t be doing everything just like Big Red.

Lurie said he doesn’t want to be risk averse when it comes to making a hire. He’s willing to take a chance if he feels it is the right move. I doubt Duce is ready to be a head coach right now, but you never know until you talk to him.


Pat Shurmur is expected to get an interview by Lurie.

Shurmur was the head coach in Cleveland for 2 years. He was the OC in St. Louis and back here in Philly. He’s got the right background.

My guess is they’ll talk to him after the season finale. Let Shurmur focus on coaching the team for now and then talk to him about the future.

I think Shurmur has value as an assistant, but he would not be my choice for head coach.


Going back to Duce for a second. I can’t help but think back to something funny I read about him on the Eagles Message Board years ago. Some fans were having an argument about the Eagles having offensive weapons. One fan referred to Duce as an explosive RB. A poster by the name of Sgt. Riles responded that the only time “Duce” and “explosive” should be in the same comment was when it involved a bad meal from Taco Bell.

Eagles fans at their best.

And something tells me even Duce would get a kick out of that.


384 Comments on “Duce is Numero Uno”

  1. 1 Wongtong said at 2:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I really like this interview and I think that Duce would be an excellent OC for a more defensive minded coach. He knows how the organization works and from what I’ve seen and heard the players have a ton of respect for him.

  2. 2 Greg Richards said at 3:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I was thinking he’d be a good offensive coordinator for a HC with an offensive background. Duce has no experience calling plays.

  3. 3 b3nz0z said at 2:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    patricia for HC duce for OC

  4. 4 Greg Richards said at 3:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Really doubt we hire a HC from the Patriots. I’m sure Bellichick will rip Howie to Patricia/McDaniels.

  5. 5 BlindChow said at 4:28 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Isn’t that also what people said Bellichick would do when Chip Kelly was being considered?

    I doubt Bellichick gets in the way of any of his assistants getting a HC opportunity. Philly has to be one of the better options out there.

  6. 6 xeynon said at 3:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Duce is one of my all-time favorite Eagles and I love his intelligence and work ethic. I doubt he’s anywhere close to ready to be a HC, but interviewing him does satisfy the Rooney role and allow him to get some experience with the process. Hopefully they’ll find a spot for him on the new staff with a bit more responsibility than RBs coach so he can continue to advance his career.

  7. 7 Greg Richards said at 3:21 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    If the new HC is amenable(and/or has a past relationship with Duce) then make Duce the assistant head coach/RBs coach. Basically continue to groom him to be a HC in the league. Anthony Lynn is the AHC/RBs coach for Buffalo and is well-regarded and is expected to get HC interviews this offseason.

  8. 8 xmbk said at 3:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No way Machiavelli Roseman isn’t getting the Rooney rule out of the way in order to potentially jump on someone before any other team can.

  9. 9 Greg Richards said at 3:51 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Also, IF the Eagles are interviewing Duce right away to get the Rooney Rule satisfied that might indicating that they want to jump on someone who will be available to be hired right away which would mean a coach on a non-playoff team.

  10. 10 eagleyankfan said at 4:34 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    you saying they have a target in mind? Hope they have a plan B too.

  11. 11 Anders said at 4:35 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Give me Adam gase then,

  12. 12 ACViking said at 4:45 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t think anything stops the Eagles from announcing the hiring of a coach on a playoff team that’s still competing.

    Hard for that coach to organize a staff, however.

    But, at this point, every candidate for the Eagles job should be showing up with a list of potential hires to fill-out his staff . . .

    And not just “fantasy choices.” But coaches who are ready to move now.

  13. 13 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The quick timing of the fiiring could also be an attempt to be first in line to schedule an interview with an assistant on a playoff team that has a bye week.
    There is more than one benefit from the early Timing of the firing, but I also can’t help wonder if Chip really said something to piss LURIE off and push him over the Ledge to make LURIE Embarress Chip by not letting him finish the season, even worse, he didn’t allow Chip to address the team.. Sounds like a very pissed off kind of vindictive LURIE, but there is more than 1 benefit to get an early start.
    THE NEGATIVE: I think we had a MUCH BETTER CHANCE of losing the Giants game if Chip coached a team that was eliminated, instead of shurming coaching the team days removed from firing Chip… I liked our odds to lose this Giants game much more had we waited to fire chip after the Giants game… Doubt those gutless Giamts put up a fight

  14. 14 Howie Littlefinger said at 5:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Giant should be motivated to win. Coughlins last game and they all love/respect him.

    The win would be completely empty for us. It won’t save anybodies job and won’t give Shurmurr any leverage

  15. 15 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:56 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Wish I felt as well as u do about it. Scared!

  16. 16 TheTazmanianDevil said at 4:15 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Since Lurie wants a good communicator as HC, I think the ideal scenario would be Gase as OC and a guy like McDermott as DC.

    I’m very very curious to see what Gase could do with a QB like Bradford.

  17. 17 Mitchell said at 4:21 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    They are already in those positions at their respective teams. I dont think you can interview unless it would be a promotion.

  18. 18 TheTazmanianDevil said at 5:06 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    guys, I’m saying in a perfect world, this is not what I think is gonna happen.

    Would like to see Gase as a HC either, but I’m afraid he ends up like McDaniels.

    And love to take a shot here on who Lurie is gonna get, but is too soon.

  19. 19 Anders said at 4:59 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    why would McDermott move? and he can only move if the Panthers allow him

  20. 20 Dominik said at 5:06 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Gase OC, McDermott DC – why not? Let’s sign this Belichick guy to be our new HC, I think he knows a thing or two about winning a SB.

  21. 21 TheTazmanianDevil said at 5:11 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


  22. 22 eagleyankfan said at 4:32 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    If you don’t think it’s the Rooney rule, then what do you think it is? That’s followed up by getting his perspective. I don’t understand that at all. If Lurie wants his perspective, then just ask him. You don’t have to set a HC interview to get his perspective. Any interview give DS experience and that’s a good thing for Duce. There is zero chance DS is hired as a HC.
    Like last season – it was said “this all falls on CK” … Now it all falls on HR. There is no way HR is going to put it all on the line and hire someone with as little experience as DS.

  23. 23 ACViking said at 4:35 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Re: Xs and Os, Job Experience, and a Familiar Face

    Andy Reid was a QB coach, not an OC, when Lurie hired him in 1999.

    He’d never called a game. And there were no yearly offensive stats by which to measure Reid’s mastery of offensive Xs and Os or his football IQ.

    The argument could be made that Reid’s reputation resulted from coat-tailing Mike Holmgren and Brett Favre in Green Bay. Right place, right time.

    So Lurie’s decision to hire Reid was not about his success calling plays or adjusting the offense to fit the players. Couldn’t have been.

    Reid apparently showed Lurie, Banner, and Modrak a vision about how to build a winning organization coupled with tangible leadership qualities. (Reid also had with him his trusty notebook filled with tidbits about what winning coaches do to win . . . which, as time’s confirmed, every Bob LaMonte client has brought to their HC’ing interviews.)

    NOTE: In 2006, Green Bay hired former 49ers OC Mike McCarthy — who’d been San Fran’s OC for an offense that finished 30th in points and 32nd in yards. In McCarthy’s previously five years as the Saints OC, New Orleans never finishing higher than 10th in yards and only once in the top 10 in points. All of which suggests that Green Bay hired McCarthy for more reasons than his mastery of Xs and Os.

    As for familiarity, Reid and Lurie (and Banner/Modrak) were relative strangers.

    Not so with Bob Kraft and Bill Belichik. Kraft fired Pats HC Pete Carroll in 2000 to hire Belichick — as he was about to be announced as the Jets new HC — in reliance on his familiarity with BB when he rejoined Parcells in New England in 1996, after getting fired in Cleveland.

    Kraft knew Belichick well. Respected him. Liked his vision — enough to fire Pete Carroll . . . despite Carroll’s 24-21 record from 1997-99, including two playoff appearances, a divisional title, and no losing seasons.

    A couple days ago, Commenter ANON insightfully remarked that, based on the coaching company Kelly’s kept, he’s thought to have a very keen offensive mind.

    In January 2013, Kelly’s handling of football Xs and Os looked cutting-edge . . . Not so much by January 2015, though.

    And the way Lurie fired Kelly — despite a 26-21 record — seems to speak far more about how Kelly handled things at NovaCare other than the Xs and Os. (Lurie seems to have said as much.)

    It looks then that the North Star for Lurie’s search will be about the candidate’s vision and leadership . . . much more than the usual Xs and Os, for which you can hire a good OC and DC.

    Presumably, Lurie believes that if you give a head coach talented players, then success should follow — whatever the scheme — especially if you can find your team a good QB.

    Heck, borrowing a page from Bob Kraft’s book, Lurie [edit: not Kelly] may even want someone he already knows and respects . . . whether or not this person is an OC, a DC, and whether or not that person has been responsible for every single scheme adjustment every single day for the past few years.

  24. 24 eagleyankfan said at 4:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    lost me with ” Heck, borrowing a page from Bob Kraft’s book, Kelly may even want someone he already knows and respects . . .” — who does Kelly want?

  25. 25 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    EYF . . .

    Thank you for that catch. UGH!!!

  26. 26 eagleyankfan said at 4:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    great read…I was teasing about the typo πŸ™‚

  27. 27 ACViking said at 4:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m still in recovery today.

  28. 28 Jarock said at 12:21 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    One other note on Reid. He was and remains an organizaholic. A huge part of what impressed Lurie was that Reid already had a plan put down on paper for how he wanted to coach and build the team. From his comments since, it seems clear to me that this is a facet that Lurie still heavily values. I don’t know Duce personally, but the only way I could see him swiping the job is if he had an Andy Reidesque attention to detail and blew Lurie away in the interview.

  29. 29 Cafone said at 4:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    It would be pretty awesome if Duce eventually works his way up to a real shot as the Eagles’ head coach.

    What would be his best next step? QB coach? Special Team coach? I don’t really see him getting a shot at a coordinator job without more experience beyond RB coach.

  30. 30 Greg Richards said at 4:41 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I know the Packers eventually moved Edgar Bennett from RB coach to WR coach to groom him to be their OC. The vast majority of OCs were QB coaches but a few were WR coaches. Bennett is now their OC and may get HC looks down the road.

  31. 31 D3FB said at 6:53 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    You’d likely give him a title like run game coordinator and get him more involved in game planning.

  32. 32 Cafone said at 4:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m not too worried about the head coaching job. The Eagles don’t need a “great” coach or some crazy innovator. They just need a solid coach who can win with the best roster in the NFL, because that’s what the Eagles are going to have with Roseman in charge of personnel for a few years.

  33. 33 eagleyankfan said at 4:42 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Torre became one baseballs greatest coaches — because Cashman gave him a tremendous roster.

  34. 34 ACViking said at 4:49 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The “Barry Switzer” Principle.

  35. 35 D3FB said at 6:51 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Coach a bowl game every other year when your HC leaves?

  36. 36 BobSmith77 said at 5:05 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Agree with you about not needing a great coach. Still have the giant looming shadow of what to do at QB. Until they settle that, it is going to be tough for his franchise to be relevant at the NFL as a championship contender.

  37. 37 Jarock said at 12:22 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I liked the job Howie did as a GM, but even I think this is over the top πŸ˜›

  38. 38 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t expect DUCE to get the job, But I liked that he was interviewed for much more than just the Rooney rule. Think it would be very interesting to hear hit interview and his unique perspective of having been up close with so many different Eagle regimes, successful and Failures..it’s good for DUCE to get experience and get his name out there past the Eagles bubble, but ultimately it’s just too big of a jump at this time. He needs to take another step or two before he becomes a HC, but maybe the next regime sees the value of keeping him on the staff?
    As fans I don’t really thinks its possible to know who is the best choice. We form opinions and preferences, but do so based off a such a small percentage of the info.. I assume hearing the interviews is an important part of knowing who is best option… So I really have No idea who the Eagles should hire, and I don’t think I will be able to narrow it down to one guy, so the most I have is a list of guys I hope the Eagles talk to:
    Mike Shula, tailored a nice offense around the strengths of his playΓ«rs, and has had a lot of success with an offense that was thought to lack weapons. I assume Rivera had more Imput in the McDermott defense than he had in Shula offense, but who knows…
    Gase… It would be interesting to see what a Gase, Shurmur and Bradford Union could produce..
    Hugh… All the offensive pro coaching experience you can ask for, some previous HC experience
    Greg Roman, I assume Rex Ryan didnt have much to do with Bills Offense. roman had a solid year 1 with Tyrod, and he is known for a very versatile run game with all types of Variety, and Variety is one of the biggest aspects the chip offense lacked..
    Vic Fangio… But Only if we didn’t interiew him in 2013 (can’t remeber)
    If you have to interview a Patriot, let it be Patricia instead of McDonald, but I doubt Bellicick gives us a glowing endorsement after we axed his boy chip.
    Don’t waste your time List:
    1) Sean Peyton, will choose Brees, Eli or Luck over SAM
    2) Gruden, won’t sign on to be his brothers Rival
    3) Cowher,., leave Him in TV
    Biggest fears:
    1) our Owner allegedly liked Jeff Fisher and Brian Kelly
    2) we granted Brian Billick an interview in 2013
    3) Hiring a coach like Wisenhunt or MIke Malone. If we hire a Coach who failed, I prefer a guy who worked his way back up to earn the HC interview, instead of hiring a Guy like Chip Kelly who wants another HC job fresh off getting fired.. I don’t mind hiring a guy who failed as a HC in the past, but hopefully he had to work his way back up to HC interviews..
    I’m sure that there are plenty of other worthy candidates that we should interview. hopefully we can Identify the Right man for this job, and hopefully Howie can get our top option to sign with us.. But it’s a scary time competing with teams looking for coaches that have QBs in place like Phillip Rivers, Mariota, Luck, Eli…. Hopefully our top choice is very much looking forward to coaching SAM, and that Howie can deliver both the Coach, and a Bradford Extension,., I will feel so much better about everything if/once Howie gets SAM under contract
    Start a pool, How many Candidates get interviewed before a coach is hired?

  39. 39 Greg Richards said at 5:03 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Shula has been an OC for a while now and this is the first season his offense has ranked higher than 16th overall.

  40. 40 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:13 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m more of a fan of the plays they run then the results, no idea if he is the best choice, but I’m impressed enough to want him to get an interview.. Unfortunately the coaching search probably won’t be so Black and white and we will be able to point out stremgths and concerns with each Candidate. If we have to interview a Panther assistant, prefer Shula over McDermott. That’s all… Unfortunately this is the first year I really followed the Panthers closely. Eagles were so bad for a lot of the seasons, had to see some good football somewhere… Rex Ryan and Shady ruined my fondness of the bills. Panthers were one of the better teams to watch this year, and often I found myself impressed with the plays they would run.. Even when they played against us. For example: when they lined up with a FB who faked a lead block to the right but Cam pitched it to the RB running outside to the left(opposite direction). the pitch was able to get the RB outside of BG who was supposed to set the edge, which led to an easy first down. I was also impressed with the offensive gameplan because it often looked like they had two players on Cox, and two players on Bennie, and logan had one of his least effective games of the season…. Where as, If the offense didn’t fail Bradford and set records for dropped balls, he probably lights McDermotts defense that day

  41. 41 ACViking said at 5:11 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The problem with interviewing OCs on a hot run — like Shula in 2015, whose record as an OC prior this season is mediocre to bad — is that it’s difficult to separate the results from the very talented QB he’s coaching.

    Certainly, from a fan’s point of view.

    To be sure, Carolina’s WR corp looked weak after Benjamin’s injury. But the offense has put up lots of points — with some help from a very efficient defense.

    In any event, give an OC a good QB, and the coincidence of a good defense, and he should look appealing.

    The same for DCs coaching a talented defense (Seattle’s last 2 DCs, Bradley and Quinn, have gotten HC jobs. Put Bill Davis in Seattle last year, and he’d turn into a hot candidate.)

    There’s so much — as you allude — fans don’t know about interviewing process.

  42. 42 Anders said at 5:13 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    That is why I want Gase, Jackson or Bevell. All 3 are not suddenly good candidates, but have been good coordinators for some years now

  43. 43 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:17 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Forgot all about Darrell Bevell. Def like To see him interviewed. Wonder how long the superbowl blunder cost him?

  44. 44 ACViking said at 5:17 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


    Agree with your assessment (though how they’d be as the face of the franchise is an unknown, except for HJ).

    As an aside, I’ve X’d Jackson because — based on how he handled the job in Oakland — he struck me as someone who’ll be angling to control personnel at some point.

    I don’t want any more coaches, ever, who have control over personnel or who yearn for control.

  45. 45 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Unless they win us a superbowl right? Then they can do whatever they want personnel wise

  46. 46 NineseveN said at 4:59 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    So wait, the guy responsible for the running back rotation that almost everyone here and well, everywhere, repeatedly criticized is now somehow giving smiles as a head coach or even OC candidate? Lmao. Rooney rule, nothing more (and I love Staley, but everyone better hope that’s all it is).

  47. 47 Nailed It! said at 5:03 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think our previous head coach had a little something to say about the rotation, but that is just me.

  48. 48 NineseveN said at 5:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think the elation of Kelly’s sacking is making the air a bit thin around here. You can certainly belive that, but from early on Kelly has said the rotation is on Duce and that he’d been happy with how Duce handled it. Kelly had also always required his coordinators and position coaches to actively mange their players while he calls the plays. So unless he consistently called plays that excluded Murray or whomever, Chip really didn’t have much to do with that. That was the criticism, that HE, Chip Kelly, didn’t put Murray in on short yardage because he didn’t see much difference between Demarco and Mathews. He was criticized because he didn’t put Mathews in when Murray was sucking and the answer was always the same, Duce rotated the backs but it wasn’t necessarily on the backs when runs weren’t successful and hardly the fault of having the wrong back in. Doesn’t matter, Staley as a head coach is a nice, but altogether silly idea

  49. 49 Sean Stott said at 5:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Kelly also has said that he’s not the general manager, doesn’t know anything about player injuries other than ‘ready’ or ‘out’, and his schemes are perfect it’s just execution.

    Can’t believe a word out of his mouth to be frank.

  50. 50 NineseveN said at 5:35 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Well, he sorta was and sorta wasn’t. And I guess Duce and the RBs are liars too? Whatever. It’s a silly notion. We can agree to disagree on that.

  51. 51 ChoTime said at 9:07 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    What Kelly said was BS. Duce may have been “in charge”, but only in the sense of following strict guidelines or rules Kelly had established. There is no way he came up with that rotation himself.

  52. 52 NineseveN said at 9:29 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Lol, okay buddy. If that narrative makes you feel better, run with it. πŸ™‚

  53. 53 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:39 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    So u think Duce was the one inserting Kenjon Barner and not Kelly the last couple weeks. I find that hard to believe myself

  54. 54 NineseveN said at 11:29 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    And I find it hard to believe that Kelly would deviate from his long-standing pattern of letting position coaches run their units outside of exceptional circumstances. I’m not even saying Staley did a bad job or that he was responsible for the overall snap counts, but the rotation as in which back is in on 3rd and short vs 3rd and long or goal line is very much on him. I don’t think he made too many poor decisions personally, I just find it to be a load of shit that so many who criticized that very thing, which every bit of evidence outside of individual speculation from us nobodies on a blog points to having been run by Duce now suddenly think he’s a good candidate. And that’s because we love Duce (for now) but want to shit on Chip Kelly for a variety of reasons. Like I said, I get it and it really doesn’t matter to me, just commentary.

  55. 55 BobSmith77 said at 5:01 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Call me a huge cynic but this is just to check mark the ‘Diversity’ box as required by the NFL for a head coaching vacancy.

  56. 56 BobSmith77 said at 5:07 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Has there ever been an NFL RB coach who has gone on directly to become an NFL head coach? Can’t think of one and didn’t find one when I looked.

    What about a WR or OL coach?

  57. 57 Anders said at 5:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    There is most likely a few trough the years. John Hauburgh was only a DB coach before he was a HC, Reid was a QB coach.

  58. 58 Mac said at 7:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I can name an oline coach who went on to become DC and shortly thereafter a super bowl champion.

  59. 59 D3FB said at 6:49 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Reid was a QB coach for several years before he got the HC gig.

  60. 60 ChoTime said at 9:08 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    How big is Deuce’s binder, though?

  61. 61 Media Mike said at 9:15 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Quite large if it includes all of his favorite eateries.

  62. 62 BobSmith77 said at 5:10 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


    Mosher isn’t exactly a go-to source for the Eagles but I tend to agree with the general gist of this article.

  63. 63 Dave said at 5:18 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The funny thing is when I read these type of articles I think to myself, I don’t give a crap if people like Howie or not, I only care if he can draft well and manage our cap.

    Edit. Spelling

  64. 64 Anders said at 5:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    One thing for sure, Howie hadnt given Murray all those money.

  65. 65 ACViking said at 5:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


    I think Bill Polian has the social smoothness of grit sandpaper.

    But he built 3 franchises.

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 5:24 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Roseman’s fate is going to be whether they either decide to sign Bradford to a decent-sized extension or they draft a QB this year & stop-gap with Sanchez or an equivalent in a clear rebuilding year.

    More and more, I hope they choose the later route and decide that next year should be a rebuilding year. Pretty confident a new DC coach and a 4-3 scheme could produce an average/slightly below average defense next year.

    Less confident in this offense though especially in an OL which looks like it might be to completely rebuilt and still lacks any kind of weapon on TE/WR.

    Take the opportunity next year to reset expectations with a new coach, actually rebuild and not ‘retool’ including setting expectations early on this offseason, and go from there.

    Yeah if they nailed the draft and FA, this might be a 9 or 10 win team next year again but planning for almost everything to break your way is a fool’s errand. Certainly not the way to operate an NFL franchise.

  67. 67 Dave said at 5:58 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No on Sanchez.

    Who in the draft is comparable to Bradford? Nobody, that’s who!

    I’ll admit, I’m sold on Sam. His footwork, ability to look down field while climbing the pocket, and accuracy are rare traits. That whole notion that he does not make the players around him better is bunk. Julio Jones makes Matt Ryan better. Megatron make Stafford better. Players trapping the ball against their helmet to win the Superbowl makes their QB better.

    A QBs job is to accurately throw a catchable ball to his receivers. Sam has done that in spades.

    Funny thing is I can only imagine how well Sam would have done with Andy, and vice versa, how well Donny would have done with Chip.

  68. 68 ChoTime said at 9:10 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Sam is right near the tipping point of being good enough that he would be hard to replace, but not good enough to actually help the team. Tough situation for the Eagles.

  69. 69 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:42 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Im good either way. I would prefer to keep Sam based on his toughness and his ability to actually make every throw. To come back after back to back torn ACLs, some growing pains were expected and if we dont keep him losing that 2nd rounder stings even more

  70. 70 BobSmith77 said at 5:28 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He will get it now and likely get 3 years.

    The biggest issue to me right now is how patient Lurie is going to be and just how badly he wants to win a Super Bowl. More and more, I think he might be the biggest issue going ahead forward with the franchise especially if he becomes more meddlesome & less patient.

  71. 71 xeynon said at 12:43 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    It was still ultimately his decision to give Kelly complete control and then fire him less than a year later.

    True, but it’s not like Lurie is Dan Snyder and has a track record of doing this. If he gave Kelly full control, and then quickly recognized that it was a mistake because Kelly was an incompetent GM and had run the team into a ditch, why should he wait to rectify his error? If Kelly were building through the draft it would be one thing – one year would definitely be too soon to evaluate his performance. But he made a lot of “win now” moves, and the signings of guys like Murray, Maxwell, and Austin were objectively awful, as were the idiotic decisions to ship Jackson and Mathis off for nothing. I’d rather Lurie recognize the problem and act decisively to stop the bleeding than wait another year just for the sake of maintaining his reputation for patience.

  72. 72 xeynon said at 12:35 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    The problem I have with this “Roseman is toxic” storyline is that there is literally no evidence to back it up. Yes, there has been lots of backbiting at him over the past few years, but it’s all coming from people who have clear motives to dislike him (lost out to him for influence/power, etc.). Some of these same people were feeding the LaCanforas of the world all that BS about how Roseman was the reason we couldn’t hire our first choice of coach in 2012 and then lo and behold, not only did we get our first choice, but it was Roseman who closed the deal. He’s had no trouble making trades or FA signings so the idea that other executives in the league don’t want to work with him also seems far-fetched. The front office drama of last offseason appears to be as much a product of Kelly’s power hunger as anything, and it was Kelly who was responsible for a majority of the turnover in the personnel department after the shakeup (firing Patch and all the other scouts who were loyal to Roseman after taking over).

    All I know is that when I look at Roseman’s track record, I see some misses, but also a ton of big hits (drafting cornerstones in Cox and Johnson in the first round, getting solid players like Ertz, Kendricks, and Matthews in the second round, getting contributors such as Logan, Boykin, and Foles in the middle rounds, signing good developmental UDFAs such as Cedric Thornton, making terrific value trades such as Sproles for a 5th rounder, etc.). When I look at the track record of “football guys” Kelly and Marynowitz, I see overpriced signings of mediocre players to awful contracts (Maxwell, Austin), bad value trades (Bradford, Alonso), and a draft that while it looks to have hit in rounds two and three in round one gave us a guy who as of yet has done only slightly more than Marcus Smith. Roseman also appears to have outperformed late-stage Andy Reid as a personnel guy. Lurie said that his evaluation is that Roseman is by far the best evaluator of talent in the building and I see no reason to doubt that.

  73. 73 T_S_O_P said at 5:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Duce was a message board hero because you could string it out in celebration: DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE.

    And the there were those who would type his name wrong!!!

  74. 74 daveH said at 10:30 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Duces Taley .. love him. A great eagle indeed

  75. 75 Tom from Hungary said at 5:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I would love it if the new HC retained Duce on his staff, maybe as a running backs coach, just like he was under Kelly. Everything I have read and heard about him indicates that he is a good coach and a good person. I think that the Eagles did the right thing by talking to him and considering him for the HC job, but I agree with Tommy that he is most likely not ready to make that jump.

    I am not so crazy about him being the OC either, since we have Shurmur on the current staff, who, based on his resume and his presumably closer working relationship with Kelly between 2013 and 2015, seems to be a better option at that position.

    As you can see I think there is a lot of value in keeping Shurmur as an OC (this is of course if he does not want to leave, or if he does not get a HC gig), because he knows the traditional NFL way, as well as the Kelly way. Also, he seemingly has a good relationship with Bradford too, who in my opinion is the Eagles best option at QB for 2016. His personality, at least what I presume to know about it based on his press conferences, also make him an ideal OC. He seemingly does not have a big ego, on the other hand he is calm and practical, so he would not lock horns with the new HC, or for that matter, members of the front office, on a daily basis.

    Oh, and it is not always easy to find a good OC. If I am not mistaken current OCs, who are really good, either a) get a HC gig or b) stay on as OC with their current teams. So the Eagles could choose from HCs or OCs who got fired (some of them, admittedly can turn out to be good, or even great choices), or current position coaches.

  76. 76 ACViking said at 5:27 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    All I want from the new HC is that — on short-yardage plays — the Eagles have someone lined up as a lead blocker with the QB under center.

    Okay. One other thing. The Eagles — like 31 other NFL teams even after 3 years of Chip Kelly — stop running every play in 23 or less seconds.

  77. 77 Nailed It! said at 5:47 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Also, when we play on SNF they take away the seconds per play clock that they only have for us! That infuriated me.

  78. 78 Dave said at 5:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I want our potential stud TE to be an integral factor in our offense, regardless of his blocking prowess!

  79. 79 P_P_K said at 6:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Why were these thing that seem so reasonable so unreasonable to Chip?

  80. 80 ChoTime said at 9:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No one complained about these nits when the offense was working. Now that it fell apart (for unrelated reasons), people can bring out their pet peeves.

  81. 81 D3FB said at 6:42 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Eagles converted 29 of 38 rushing attempts on 3rd and < 6 yards to gain.

  82. 82 D3FB said at 6:48 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    For perspective top 3 rushing teams were Bills, Panthers, Seahawks. They fared

    Bills: 27 for 41
    Panthers: 22 for 33
    Hawks: 23 for 34.

  83. 83 Howie Littlefinger said at 5:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    This assent just about the rooney rule but it does take care of it and allows us to move on. It also gets duces name out there to generate some buzz for him as a coach.

    This was the first part of the process

  84. 84 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:09 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Howie little finger is the best screen name… I can see HOWIE looking into a mirror and ask “what do we do to those that harm the ones we love?” Right before howie got ready to barge into Lurie’s office armed with facts and statistic showing why chips head needed to be chopped off immediately

  85. 85 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:30 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    hahah I can actually see that too.

    I love Game of thrones and thought Howie is def Littlefinger. I just hope his intentions are to win us a Superbowl.

  86. 86 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:54 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Can’t help to worry that it was a costly mistake having fired Chip because I would feel like we had a better chance of losing the Giants game if Chip had to coach a team that was eliminated. I worry that the initial spark of the change leads to an Eagle win over gutless Giants who know their coach is a deadman walking.
    It’s so much more than just draft position. If we win this game, I dont even see where we can,find another option besides Bradford… Even if we lose we need the Browns or Niners to pass on a QB for Goff or Paxton to fall to us, and im not very excited about either of them.
    Knowing Free agency is a fools errand, not having a 2nd round pick, if we have to draft a QB this year it’s going to be very hard to fix all the issues with this roster… Whether we need to protect SAM or a Rookie, it’s essential that we stack our OL with Talemt and Depth.
    from a team Building perspective, and short term what gives us the best chance to win next year. I don’t see a better option than Bradford. 2 years from now, 25 teams will be paying QBs Monster money reflecting The fact that QB is the most important position in all sports. teams like Miami Fucked up the game paying big for second tier QBs… We invested enough in SAM to want to work out a deal with him, without needing to see what other teams offer him on the open market. HOpefully Howie picks up where he left off with his new reputation of being able to get deals done with agents. Really hoping the extension is done before free agency, but if you meed more time, Tag him, but can’t allow him to ever play a game on the Tag… Can’t Tag him as leverage, or to try and force him into a low ball offer. Stupid to get into a game of chicken with a young man with a Monster bank account. Tag him if you need more time to work it out., and Im so done with free agency, that I value draft picks more than Cap space..
    I will feel so much better about everything If we find out that the next coach, LURIE, and Howie have every intention on building around Bradford. It’s easily the quickest fast to a level of football giving us a chance to win that we deserve. my Patience is Not where it was in 2013, and in the NFL it’s very possible to go from losers to winners in one year, so I don’t have the patiemce for the Eagles that I do for the sixers, and I would have been more patient if LURIE was willing to clean house and bring in a brand new front office.. But since he wants to recycle Howie, and there are plenty of Howie players on this team, I don’t have the Patiemce for a Jaguas like rebuild, and without Bradford, almost every team besides us and like 3 other franchises will be without a QB
    Why would we want to get rid of a QB who is still improving for us? Why would we give up the QB that gives us the best chance at sustained success since McNabb? FOles never duplicated year 1, 2010 was an ANOMOLY for VICK.. Yet when it comes to SAM, I was very pleased with how he started to play the position, yet I also felt we didn’t even scratch the surface yet of what we can become with SAM. I simply lost patience with this team and SAM is the fastest path to owning this division”… Pay the man! He was able to naturally grow into our leader during an adversity filled yeΓ r… Doubt we can find better…who on this staff as experience finding a better QB than SAM?ndont ruin the one thing chip did right,

  87. 87 ACViking said at 5:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Agree about “what if Kelly were coaching Game 16” . . . .

    Agree keeping Bradford, certainly in short run, makes the Eagles better.

    Question: How to make Bradford want to be in Philadelphia — short of the franchise tag (which creates potential problems in 2017 with Cox).

  88. 88 P_P_K said at 6:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    How to keep Bradford in Philly? Promise him a draft and/or FA acquisitions filled with top-tier O-Lineman . Follow with a commitment to really developing a running game. Then, assure him he won’t have to take every single snap from the shotgun. Finally, have a coach who will use his skills wisely and who won’t try and bang him into a scheme in which he won’t succeed. Oh yea, you’ll also have to pay him a ton of money.

  89. 89 ACViking said at 6:25 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Big Check.

    If Lurie wants to win now — and of course he does — that sounds like the formula.

    Caveat: Bradford has to like the HC and OC.

  90. 90 Patrick said at 7:19 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Sam Bradford should have absolutely zero impact on coaching or front office moves of the Philadelphia Eagles. Sam Bradford can shut his fucking mouth and decide whether or not he wants to sign a multimillion dollar deal to play football for the Eagles or he can fuck right the fuck off. He is a fucking player, he’ll do what he is told.

    Had I been an owner, I wouldn’t even give Brady or Rodgers a freaking say. I’d listen to any insight, suggestions, opinions etc. I’ll take that from any player on the roster of my fictional team, but nobody but me is making the final decision on who i want to lead my franchise, whether thats a coach, GM or dictator.

  91. 91 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:49 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m glad you’re not the owner. Stick to Madden where players are CPUs

  92. 92 P_P_K said at 7:54 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I trust “Big Check” was intentional.

  93. 93 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:31 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    . pay the man what he is worth, enough to make it worth while to not Gamble on hikself a year and play out on the tag… The same exact way Teams sigΕ„ 10’s of players each and every year… Not exactly Rocket science..

  94. 94 ACViking said at 6:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    “pay the man what he is worth”

    That should be really easy . . . especially dealing with Tom Condon, aka the Steve Boros of football.

    Bradford’s gone unless, even if he likes the new HC, he gets top dollar.

    Also, I don’t think Roseman’s an aeronautical engineer — so Rocket Science may be a problem for him.

  95. 95 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:51 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Only had marginal success here where he has established a rapport with Ertz and Lane and Mathhews. Plus he has a man crush on Demarco

  96. 96 nicolajNN said at 6:05 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I realise people here might not be in the best position to answer this, but is the whole “interviewing a minority just to comply with the Rooney rule” an actual thing or more of a fan/media creation?

  97. 97 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:06 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No it’s a real rule. Have to interview one mInority candidate as dumb as it sounds when we have a black president in 2015, but it’s a legit rule

  98. 98 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’d caution you at assuming that electing Obama waved the magic equality wand at everything that ails this nation in terms of race.

  99. 99 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I prefer to assume that our owner is smarter than to let ridiculous racial crap from having an impact on the best candidate…Lurie hired q black man in the 90s, I assume he has no. Problem hiring a Black man In 2015… But I dont care to futher discuss such trash

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 6:13 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I hear you there, but I think that rule is important to help break a lot of the good ole boys network the predominates far too much hiring.

  101. 101 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:28 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t disagree, sadly I can’t sit here and tell you that I know that there isn’t another Donald Sterling type owning a team in the NFL. But Lurie has been our Owner for a long time, and I haven’t seen a hint of that Filth under his rule… I do like that the rule is in place because even if you don’t have any problem hiring a black man, you are forced to take a look at some candidates that wouldnt get a chance in Old Boys circles… So I do like that the rule is in place, but don’t think we have to worry about it as fans of eagles… Even if that was part of why DUCE got an interview, it also benefits DUCE and starts to get his name out there, so I don’t think there is anything sinister about interviewing DUCE, and it’s good that DUCE starts getting Experience,.. If the Steelers fired Tomlin, I think LURIE would hire him on the spot today without ever having interviewed a white candidate… It’s not like we have a Jewish Owner whos has a history of hiring 3 Jewish HC out of the 4 that have been in place since he took control of the team.
    Speaking of this race crap that annoys me, BEST THING ABOUT THE TIMING of the Firing? It happened right at the Begin of Race baiting stephan A Smith and Skip Bayless vacation week, and we were spared from having to hear their mouth for at least 1 week…. Although Donovan couldn’t resist tap dancing on Chips grave lol… I’m sure skip and stephan A will be back on Monday laughing, Celebrating chips firing singing “Ding Dong the witch is dead”…. I wish I was a 70 yr old man so I could go all Nick Diaz and slap Skip Bayless across the face with a “Stocton Slap” Diaz Brother style.. “Don’t Be Scared Hommie” lol

  102. 102 oreofestar said at 7:54 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m (half) black and I think it’s a dumb rule, if they want to hire a white coach making them interview a black one won’t change anything. It might even be insulting if you bring in a candidate knowing he’s only getting interviewed because he is black

  103. 103 P_P_K said at 7:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Raises the whole issue of how to bring about a fair society. It’s so hard to legislate equality. Even harder to legislate intelligence.

  104. 104 Media Mike said at 8:03 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I agree it is lame if they’re only going to do a dog and pony show, but if it is a real interview and helps get a guy the ability to win a job it can help.

    But thank you for sharing a perspective that most of us aren’t going to have on the situation.

  105. 105 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:09 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    It is dumb rule… its even more disturbing that in 2015 that a rule like that is needed.

    I’m sure some teams blow it off and some actually take it seriously, but it at least it puts a candidates name out there who probably wouldn’t even be granted an opportunity.

  106. 106 Dave said at 6:10 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Racist much?

  107. 107 Media Mike said at 6:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I don’t think he meant that in an overt way.

  108. 108 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:15 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Wipe your mouth boy, and I will buckle my own pants thank you… I have no more use for u, be gone

  109. 109 Dave said at 7:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    You’re a weird dude.

  110. 110 nicolajNN said at 6:10 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I know it’s a rule, but I just find it hard to believe that teams interview candidates with no other intention than to comply with the rule

  111. 111 Media Mike said at 6:14 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I bet you that some do, but I like the rule nonetheless.

  112. 112 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:14 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I would like to think that since they have to interview a minority ithat they Take it serious and interview one whos credentials also impress them and have more going for them than satisfying a rule,,,at least Id like to think that

  113. 113 unhinged said at 7:02 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Doesn’t sound dumb at all when you look at the shade of complexions in an NFL owners gathering, and when you look at most FO’s there has been a gradual increase of minority execs, but waaaay lower percentage represented there as compared with on the field.

  114. 114 Iskar36 said at 10:44 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think the intention of the rule is solid, but the execution is weak. I find it hard to believe that forcing teams to interview minority candidates has had a major effect on getting more minority HCs. If you have a candidate you want to hire, you simply go after that coach. The rule just creates an obsticle in that process if the guy you are considering isn’t a minority. I think any increases in minority representation have been due to the country as a whole becoming better at recognizing the unfair challenges minorities face rather than the Rooney Rule itself.

    On the other hand, I think the rule actually hurts its intended goal now. The fact that we are debating whether Duce Staley was a coaching candidate simply to satisfy the rule is completely unfair to Duce. He should not have to debate if he was a legitimate candidate or a way to satisfy the rule. Even moreso, other teams who see the Eagles interviewing Duce should have to wonder if they are leaving a stone unturned rather than assuming Duce is a Rooney Rule candidate.

    Obviously the NFL is intending to increase minority representation with the Rooney Rule, and in that thought, doing something makes sense. I just think something else instead of the Rooney Rule should be done.

  115. 115 anon said at 10:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    but alternative is these guys not getting interviews at all. at least when you interview you meet people, you can impress them, or not, maybe you don’t get a HC job but maybe a coordinator and your name is in the nat’l convo.

    The sad part is guys do get rooney rule interviewed all the time.

  116. 116 unhinged said at 1:02 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I don’t believe it has much influence on who franchises are initially targeting, but by compelling them to follow a protocol that is inclusive of minority candidates, I don’t think it hurts the intended goal. I did not word my initial comment particularly well. I believe that there are some people who may give very little overt indication that they are strong candidates for a designated position, but then they get into an interview, and they impress. I have no way of knowing if Duce could be that guy. But 2 constructive things come out of the rule, I think. More than one franchise, I suspect, will conduct an interview with a person not on their short list, and the interview puts him there. The other is, some obviously qualified persons are not particularly skilled at selling themselves in a formal setting, and this is going to get more of those folks a taste of what they are in for. As for debating the Eagles motivations for hiring Duce, it is hot air that amounts to very little relating to a real outcome. It would be unfair, perhaps, of the Eagles to assume a RB coach can make the leap to HC. I underscore the word “assume”. If this rule motivates a franchise to interview a candidate despite their misgivings, I don’t believe it inevitably alienates anybody.

  117. 117 Media Mike said at 6:08 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m glad they interviewed Duce, but this had better not be the only minority candidate interviewed because Hue Jackson needs to be the coach.

  118. 118 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:44 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The more I read about Hue Jackson the more I like him.

  119. 119 Fufina said at 6:18 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Apparently we are going to go after Gase as one of our priority candidates.. which pleases me since i am a sucker for the young up and coming candidate.

  120. 120 George said at 6:20 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    where are you hearing this

  121. 121 Fufina said at 6:22 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


  122. 122 TypicalDouche said at 6:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    profootballtalk so take that with a grain of salt cause they’re terrible.

  123. 123 George said at 6:24 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    i will take that with a mine full of salt thank you very much, but yeah, i’d love to get gase here

  124. 124 daveH said at 7:35 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Yes hearing they talked to duces taley .. check the internet to confirm and i will also

  125. 125 George said at 6:46 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Everybody is talking about how great Hue is because of “what he did with AJ fucking McCarron” how about what gase did with TIM MOTHERFUCKING TEBOW. holy crap can the guy work with qbs if he got a team with tebow at the helm to the playoffs, and that’s why he’d be my #1 if I were the eagles braintrust

  126. 126 Media Mike said at 6:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    That wasn’t Gase, it was McDaniels.

  127. 127 George said at 6:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    qb’s coach, my bad, but still got tim tebow to look competent, which is impressive

  128. 128 Patrick said at 7:07 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Actually, Mike McCoy was the OC and Adam Gase was the QB coach when the Broncos beat the Steelers in OT, John Fox the HC. Josh McD was the OC in St. Louis.

  129. 129 Media Mike said at 7:10 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


  130. 130 Patrick said at 7:32 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Apparently its pretty much a given that McCoy will either be the OC for Adam Gase or Sean McDermott, from what i can gather from the rumors.

    Kinda funny since McCoy is currently still a HC and the other two have never been that and even though its likely, surely cannot count on getting that gig. Remember how many off-seasons Mike Zimmer was the hottest HC candidate.

    On a similar note, I cannot imagine McDermott would get a particularly warm welcome in Philly should he be our new HC, considering how happy everyone was to bounce him out. I guess a couple of years with an OL coach and Billy Davis at DC feels some type of way with a fanbase used to the JJ defense and Gang Green.

  131. 131 Media Mike said at 7:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    McDermott should get a kick in his teeth from the fans due to his trash work here as DC.

    And it look like McCoy isn’t getting fired now.

  132. 132 Greg Richards said at 7:39 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    It was reported by FOX a couple of days ago that McCoy will be fired. Now, it’s being reported that the Chargers will keep him. We’ll see.

    As far as McCoy with Gase, that seems unlikely IMO. Gase was the QB coach under McCoy and it’s an awkward dynamic to hire someone to work under you that was previously your boss.

  133. 133 Fufina said at 7:42 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Depends how they got along tbh, if they had a good relationship and respect each other can work well… them succeeding together gets McCoy another HC gig, and he will feel more equipped to do that if they have a good relationship.

  134. 134 anon said at 9:42 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    must have called around and found out they weren’t the top job prospect.

  135. 135 daveH said at 7:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Xavier McDaniel c vyhe Ice Man. One of my fave nba players

  136. 136 anon said at 9:41 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    or mike mccoy? a lot of guys trading on “tebow won a playoff game”.

  137. 137 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Hopefully there are a few dead bodies behind Comcast HQ tonight. Losing the video feed of the Flyers for the last 5 minutes was criminal.

  138. 138 Tdoteaglefan said at 7:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Oregon vs tcu on right now…any particular players you guys keeping an eye on?

  139. 139 Media Mike said at 7:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Not as many as we were a week ago.

  140. 140 George said at 7:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    not anymore…chip’s gone now

  141. 141 oreofestar said at 7:19 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    For first round no since Buckner should be gone and isn’t a position of need anyway, but Doctson could bt a second round option if they want to look at WR

  142. 142 The original AG said at 9:02 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    We don’t have a 2nd rounder. πŸ™

  143. 143 Media Mike said at 9:02 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    We will once we trade down!

  144. 144 The original AG said at 9:05 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I forgot Roseman’s back in control. This is a distinct possibility. Though I think we could get a stud OL if we’re in the top-10.

  145. 145 Media Mike said at 9:14 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    There are only 2; Tunsil and Stanley. If they’re both gone and Goff is gone; trade down is my preferred way of going right now.

  146. 146 D3FB said at 6:26 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Draft twitter has cooled on Stanley a bit. I haven’t watched a ton of him but alot have him pegged more fringe top 10ish so he could be in play.

  147. 147 Media Mike said at 7:40 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I was irked that Ohio State hid Bosa from him in the bowl game because I wanted to see them battle head up.

    Then Bosa got chucked out; so oh well.

  148. 148 D3FB said at 6:16 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Bosa has played almost exclusively LDE all season so it wasn’t anything new

  149. 149 oreofestar said at 10:17 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    oh yeah I forgot

  150. 150 Mac said at 7:27 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Has any team ever drafted a Qb and then selected that Qbs head coach from college to either the HC or OC job?

  151. 151 unhinged said at 10:25 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Not sure of the order, but Mike Sherman coached Ryan Tannehill at A&M. and then was hired as Dolphins OC.

  152. 152 daveH said at 11:14 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Ha yes imagine if Chip had tried to get Mariotta !

  153. 153 anon said at 11:15 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    thought they did it in indy

  154. 154 daveH said at 7:32 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Reading that Eagles interviewed ex eagles RB Duce Staley already

  155. 155 DJH said at 7:44 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Did you read that in the article you’re commenting on?

  156. 156 daveH said at 11:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Sometimes … just saw star wars. Found it really 80s and predictable .. Guess im not too much of a trekkie

  157. 157 A_T_G said at 8:59 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Really? Do you have a link?

  158. 158 A_T_G said at 9:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Oh, here is one.


  159. 159 daveH said at 11:11 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Huge smile.
    Thank you.
    That link is perfect. And the comments every bit as insightful as the article

  160. 160 ACViking said at 7:43 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Kelly’s worst move was not getting Bradford under contract before rescuing him from football purgatory.

    I say “worst” because Kelly traded a 2nd-Rd pick for a 1-year rental, who desperately wanted out of St. Louis, and did so with no clear path for keeping him under contract after 2015 . . . except hope.

    Now, as a free agent, Bradford has 100% of the leverage. He’s proven he’s a pretty good QB, in a league all about QBs, which doesn’t have enough good QBs.

    And his agent (Tom Condon) specializes in waylaying teams into unfriendly contracts to keep their QBs.

    Yet it’s been suggested that all the Eagles must do to keep Bradford is offer him just enough so he doesn’t have to worry about getting injured again while playing on the 1-year franchise tag. READ: a team-friendly deal.

    Why would Bradford do this? Because — it was said — lots of players do this every year, so it’s not rocket science.

    But Bradford is NOT like lots of other players.

    He’s already made $78 MM. (After taxes, using a 7% rate of return, Bradford has somewhere in the neighborhood of $50-plus MM in the bank now.)

    Bradford is not worrying about having money if he gets hurt again. He’s *not* some mid-round pick who’s made All Pro and is finally up for his first big contract.

    What Bradford would seem to want is (i) a good, young team, (ii) with a stable coaching situation, (iii) very good WRs, (iv) a decent O-line, and (v) a good defense. All of which spells Houston. And Bill O’Brien’s going nowhere.

    That’s not to say Bradford won’t be back.

    Lurie and Roseman know this team needs a QB. The Eagles are not drafting in the Top 5 — and it’s not clear that Goff, Wentz, or Lynch project as anything better than Bradford.

    So, I assume, some effort is being made to find out what potential HC candidates interest Bradford. And what kind of system Bradford feels most comfortable in.

    The goal, if you’re Lurie and Roseman, is to have Bradford want to stay — though it will cost a lot, courtesy of not locking up Bradford as a condition for getting him out of St. Louis.

    Plus, the Birds can always tag Bradford.

    On the other hand, he can always walk away from the NFL . . . because the fact is he does not need to worry about banking some guaranteed money in case of injury.

    To approach Bradford’s negotiations on the assumption he’ll take less money over 3 or 4 or 5 years as insurance against an injury is a fool’s errand.

    This is a good QB. Represented by Tom Condon. It’s not rocket science.

  161. 161 Fufina said at 7:47 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Oh Bradford to Houston is a nice fit i had not thought of, makes a lot of sense and is a good situation.

  162. 162 George said at 7:49 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    imagine if houstin had drafted mack and derek carr instead of clowney and some no-name o-lineman i can’t remember. right now they’d be scary good

  163. 163 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:51 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I had a feeling Mack was going to end up being better than Clowney

  164. 164 oreofestar said at 7:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He was the number one player in my board for a long time, like him a lot

  165. 165 daveH said at 11:08 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    But the press would have klilled thrm .. they went thru that already Mario W

  166. 166 anon said at 11:13 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    yup safe pick instead of right pick. people trying not to get fired.

  167. 167 Insomniac said at 9:36 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Deandre Hopkins is what Bradford wanted for Christmas after an OL.

  168. 168 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    You re right… They should have worked out a contract with Bradford before finalizing the trade, esp since it sent the Rams a 2nd.

    But that’s just another reason why Chip shouldn’t have been playing GM in the first place.

    As far as what’s going to happen with Bradford; its going to depend on if the team wants him, the new coach wants him and if he wants to be here next year.

    I thought Maclin coming back was a sure thing and that Kendricks wasn’t getting resigned… so I suck a this Free Agent thing

  169. 169 Dave said at 7:52 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him the franchise tag. That would mean they paid him 33 million over 2 years. On par with Andy Dalton. If Sam has a injury
    riddled or bad year, you don’t resign him. If he plays great, that’s a good problem with the increasing salary cap. If he is good but not great, that’s when the decision gets hard.

    As for Sam not wanting to play here…I believe if Lurie and Howie believe in him, they will make sure he is on board with the new coach, directly or indirectly. Sam will not retire if he is against playing here or for the franchise tag. He came back from 2 acl tears…its pretty obvious he loves the game.

  170. 170 ChoTime said at 9:19 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He’s proven that he’s not a terrible QB. He is bottom third, even bottom sixth, in almost every statistical category. We have seen that he can throw a pretty spiral and otherwise look like a QB, but we actually knew that before the season. He didn’t have much help this year but still failed to make a positive impact. He is accurate sometimes but inaccurate others. Together that means he is somewhat accurate. He does some nice things but ends up throwing an interception or missing eventually. Those things count just as much as the laser strikes. He still throws far too many balls to receivers who have no chance of making a first down. He is not a bad QB, but there is no evidence he is a good one, either. Once again, he’s riding on potential and the hopes and dreams of fans.

  171. 171 Mitchell said at 10:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    “He does some nice things but ends up throwing an interception or missing eventually.” That can be said about literally every qb in the league. The Eagles had the highest drop rate in the NFL, Sam was under considerable pass rush pressure and only got better as the year went on.

  172. 172 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    But it doesn’t fit the Bradford Narrative…

    It so easy to see he wasn’t the reason why we lost down the stretch. When guys weren’t dropping passes or fumbling the OL was letting guys free.

  173. 173 ChoTime said at 11:44 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    “Narrative” has become the new lazy way to discredit something instead of evidence. Look at the numbers. The difference between his and those of an effective quarterback is vast. He does have excuses, but do they vault him from being the 27th best QB to a top 10? Have there been similar situations when someone has performed badly for his whole career (his numbers here are better than in STL) but all of a sudden, everything goes right and he is good?

  174. 174 Tumtum said at 2:01 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Which is why you Franchise him. Pay 20 million 1 time while you have no better option. He has one year to really prove it in yet another new system.

  175. 175 ChoTime said at 11:48 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    The point is he loses, not that he doesn’t have a 100% completion %. He definitely got better but I don’t think people appreciate how far he has to go to be effective.

  176. 176 anon said at 11:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    no good options. andy dalton can lead a team to the playoffs got to think sammy can.

  177. 177 Mitchell said at 10:55 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Its a team game…..

  178. 178 BobSmith77 said at 11:45 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Giving out a huge contract to a mediocrity who is a huge injury risk is the kind of move I could making this team irrevelant largely for most of the remainder of this decade.

  179. 179 ChoTime said at 11:47 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    This team is already irreverent and that’s why they dared to fire Chip. πŸ™‚ Yes, the Bradford situation is kind of a big deal. You pay a Brady or a Rodgers, it’s worth it and you win big. You pay a Tannehill or some other mediocrity and you suck for five years.

  180. 180 Tumtum said at 1:59 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He does seem to lack “it”.

  181. 181 anon said at 9:28 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Another reason why firing chip was a little short sided. Or maybe the front office doesn’t love Bradford and they had to fire chip to be able to get out of the bradford situation. Otherwise keeping Shurmer in some capacity seems like it’d be really helpful in keeping bradford if that’s what you want to do.

    Another interesting thing would be for Houston to fire their OC hire Shurmer and take Bradford. But really can’t underestimate value of being in a system for 2+ seasons.

  182. 182 BobSmith77 said at 11:41 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Still see Bradford chasing the money unless it iso one of 4-5 teams that aren’t desirable for a few other reasons (eg Cleveland, etc).

    Giving Bradford a big contact extension before the season would have nuts too. The only problem with the deal was the 2nd rounder which Kelly seemed to really undervalue.

  183. 183 Tumtum said at 1:57 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    The thing you don’t seem to have considered is that most teams in the league have guys they would probably prefer to Bradford currently. Would the Jets dump Fitzpatrick for him, just after he took them to the play-offs, and had a better year than Bradford? (assuming they beat the Bills). St. Louis? Miami just paid their QB. Someone mentioned Dallas last time I brought this up, heck no.

    Perhaps SF would have interest. Though they are actually less appealing in my eyes.

    I doubt a team friendly deal is going to happen, but if it ever were, now is the year. I don’t see him cashing in.

  184. 184 Greg Richards said at 8:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Dolphins and their “GM” Dennis Hickey agreed to part ways.

  185. 185 Media Mike said at 8:14 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Oh Tannenbaum
    Oh Tannenbaum

    you’ve really screwed that franchise.

  186. 186 Greg Richards said at 8:18 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Hickey wasn’t/isn’t that highly regarded and only got the job with Miami because a lot of other execs declined interviews. The thing is most Dolphins fans think he did a solid job and Tannenbaum is more of the problem. Apparently there was some division in the FO. It’s not the exact same dynamic as with the Eagles but a lot of similarities. Hickey seems like a solid nuts-and-bolts scout but I wouldn’t want him as a true GM.

  187. 187 JoeBlow said at 10:06 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Isn’t Tannenbaum really the guy who runs things there?

  188. 188 kajomo said at 10:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I actually would like him for our position. He wouldnt have final say, but the guy is a good evaluator.

  189. 189 ChoTime said at 9:20 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    That’s funny when you sing it.

  190. 190 Media Mike said at 9:21 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Not funny if you’re a Dolphins fan however.

  191. 191 BobSmith77 said at 11:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    They haven’t been good or bad since Marino retired. Just largely mediocre and blaise with a few mostly bad exceptions.

  192. 192 Tumtum said at 1:48 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    The wild cat Sparano years were pretty fun.

  193. 193 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:49 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    the wildcat sparano year****

  194. 194 Tumtum said at 2:09 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    They made the play offs once but there were two fun years.

  195. 195 Howie Littlefinger said at 2:59 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    It was only effective for one year and this reminded me of the worst Eagles RB play ever, Thanks Ronnie Brown

    Now im sad and mad

  196. 196 Howie Littlefinger said at 3:12 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Something I just thought about and haven’t seen mentioned:

    Gase groomed Osweiler and hes looking pretty good and Peyton played well last year so that makes:

    3. Manning (last 2 years til he fell off)
    4.Osweiler (2:1 TD-INT)

    All having good seasons with him and 1 player being groomed by him playing well. Also these are all very different types of QBs

  197. 197 Tumtum said at 1:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Its what he does.

  198. 198 Media Mike said at 8:24 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


    Here we go!

  199. 199 myartz04 said at 8:27 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Exciting times. Hope he can handle the Philly media…don’t want another coach ran out of town.

  200. 200 Media Mike said at 8:30 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    What coach was run out of town by the media?

  201. 201 myartz04 said at 8:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Ran out of town was a poor choice of words. I think the media in general are ones looking yo tear things down..looking for schisms. I think that wears on coaches and players.

  202. 202 Media Mike said at 8:40 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Maybe dumb ones. I think actual professionals tune that crap out.

  203. 203 myartz04 said at 8:43 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    They had an axe to grind the who Kelly era. I just hate that. Now clearly he had some fault in it and I don’t mind when coaches lie. But he was straight up contradicting himself sometimes.

  204. 204 MS said at 8:48 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    They think having an axe to grind is their right, and their job. And they grind the shΓ—Γ— out of that are. Then the fan base kicks in. Makes it twice as hard on coaches and players.

  205. 205 myartz04 said at 8:52 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Couldn’t agree more. You’re right in saying they think it’s their job. They need to just report the team and not be digging so deep for dirt.

  206. 206 daveH said at 11:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think they hold 6.5M coach gm accountable when they f things up, send unjustified ego our way and we lose

  207. 207 MS said at 11:09 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I have no clue what your second sentence means. But it is such a stupid myth that holding an employee accountable only means firing them when things go bad. Quitters mentality.

  208. 208 daveH said at 11:44 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Trying to say if he hates the press and hates all the menial coaching tasks like dealing with people, it shines through & makes it tougher for any writer to pull for him regardless how many 10-6 seasons he squeezes out

  209. 209 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:53 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Not winning is what does that.
    Dropping easy passes is what does that
    signing and misusing the league leader in rushing yards
    Cutting starting LG with no plan B
    Cutting or trading best players for little return does that

    CK made his bed, the media kissed him good night and Lurie/Roseman tucked him in.

  210. 210 D3FB said at 6:23 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    When a beat writer can explain the pros and cons between a 42 and a 33stack as nickel package they can be second guessing dicks. Until then they need to shut the hell up. Do you honestly think Roob understands what the hell a packaged play is? After 3 years? Hell no. He’s just gonna talk about some super sweet indie band he saw 20 years ago and how Foles and MCW are the bestest.

  211. 211 The original AG said at 6:52 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I think Rube has a unique skill-set by digging up a bunch of random stats. That’s the only reason I follow him on twitter.

  212. 212 Tumtum said at 1:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    This media was much harder on Andy. They were really smitten by Chip for most of his time here.

  213. 213 MS said at 8:46 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No way. Robots could tune it out. Not humans.

  214. 214 Tumtum said at 1:45 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Guy is being hotly pursued. Has to want the job, though I would say it looks to be the most enticing job by a long shot this season. If he picks someone else that will be a good barometer for the rest of the leagues view on this organization now.

  215. 215 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:32 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    So they really were just getting “it” out the way with Duce…

  216. 216 A_T_G said at 8:54 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He wears a hoodie? I’m sold.

  217. 217 iceberg584 said at 8:39 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m going to go ahead and predict the title of Tommy’s post when he writes up Adam Gase….”The Case for Gase”

  218. 218 A_T_G said at 8:51 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He is my leading candidate. I feel like I could create quite a few cringe-worthy puns with his name. He is not quite the bounty that we should have harvested in Haha Clinton Dix, but still plenty to work with.

    In fact, if he is a Gase of a bad fit, I hope we interview his brother, Justin.

  219. 219 Greg Richards said at 8:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He’s been a good offensive coordinator and works well with QBs but I don’t know enough about his personality to know if that would necessarily translate to being a good HC.

  220. 220 myartz04 said at 9:06 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    We need a “leader of men”

  221. 221 daveH said at 11:01 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    But first “The Chase for Gase”

  222. 222 Cafone said at 1:16 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    and then, About Face on Gase

  223. 223 Tumtum said at 1:40 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    And when he has a bad game “Gase Palm”

  224. 224 Howie Littlefinger said at 2:58 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    After he wins multiple SBs “How to Replace Gase”

    Please note SB= sam bradfords πŸ˜‰

  225. 225 Greg Richards said at 9:01 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Cleveland is reportedly going to fire Pettine and their GM Farmer. So either they’ll hire a GM first that will pick the HC so their HC search will take a while or they’ll go after a big-name HC that they’re willing to give personnel control to.

  226. 226 Media Mike said at 9:02 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    They’ll hire all stooges for Haslem to run roughshod over……again.

  227. 227 Greg Richards said at 9:03 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He’d be better off hiring a football czar and get them to agree by signing a contract that dictates that he’ll live in Europe outside of cellphone range.

  228. 228 Media Mike said at 9:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    No doubt, but I doubt it’ll happen.

  229. 229 anon said at 9:20 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Dont know if i should feel bad for Pettine, Farmer was terrible.

  230. 230 JoeBlow said at 10:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    i kind of do, i think he’s a good DC, but maybe not right to be a HC

    Farmer is garbage

  231. 231 Tumtum said at 1:39 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Another guy getting axed that would be a great potential DC here. Getting excited about the possible DCs!

  232. 232 Insomniac said at 9:23 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    As much as I think getting fired and working in Cleveland sucks, you do make a quick few millions as the HC.

  233. 233 scratcherk said at 9:24 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Tell gase to bring alshon with him

  234. 234 Media Mike said at 9:29 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    If stuff works that way we should be able to hire Cal’s coach.

  235. 235 Jernst said at 9:56 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    yes please

  236. 236 Jernst said at 9:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    hopefully he leaves cutler in chicago though

  237. 237 D3FB said at 6:18 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’m not down giving a guy who got really really really fat his last year of college big money.

  238. 238 Greg Richards said at 9:36 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    John Middlekauff

    2m2 minutes ago

    Heard nothing but good things about Adam Gase. Everyone who has worked w/him thinks he’s a star. Entire NFL wants him right now

  239. 239 Insomniac said at 9:37 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Is this Chip Kelly sweepstakes deja vu all over again?

  240. 240 anon said at 9:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


  241. 241 scratcherk said at 9:39 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I love winning sweepstakes

  242. 242 Tumtum said at 1:38 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Everyone thought Chip was a star too (still has that potential IMO). Doesn’t mean it would work, so I won’t get worked up one way or the other.

  243. 243 anon said at 9:38 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Anyone discussed Howie and his Ks? I’m not a capologist but seems like CK was forced into a lot of the moves that were made from a salary cap point of view.

    Yes he got rid of Maclin, Djax and Mccoy, but those are 3 really expensive weapons ($12m, $9m and $11m projected). Ironically we didn’t have any skill position players that we drafted to back them up.

    Peters, Mathis and Kelce ($8m, $6m, $3m) are some of the highest paid OL in the league. Again no good backup draftees.

    That’s not even mentioning the other old guys there were on expensive deals that we had to dump (T. Cole). Again no good young players

    all of this not counting QB and no Cox.

  244. 244 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think if Chip and Howie had a better relationship things play out very differently

  245. 245 Insomniac said at 9:57 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I think if Chip just had better relationships with one of the WRs Andy left him then he might still have a job.

  246. 246 anon said at 10:01 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    maybe if they’d paid maclin 8-9m instead of 5the first year you prob keep him

  247. 247 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:04 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Tried to give him the Riley Cooper special

  248. 248 Greg Richards said at 9:58 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Jackson and McCoy were/are two talented players. Peters is paid appropriately if you consider his track record and Mathis wasn’t paid enough according to him and his agent at least. You’re not going to be able to avoid those guys having significant cap hits a few years into their new deals. The key is structuring deals so that the players can be released without taking an exorbitant cap hit and Howie is typically quite good at this. There are other options to releasing a player if you want to lower their cap hit in a given offseason. Deals can be restructured/extended if you’re so inclined. The cap didn’t dictate the moves that were made. Chip not liking the players involved and wanting to open up cap room to sign other players(that he didn’t get along with either) did.

  249. 249 Anders said at 5:21 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    How on earth did Kelly get rid of maclin when he left in fa?

  250. 250 anon said at 9:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    do we have to listen to kempski to figure out the next coach. he’s been sort of right about everything.

  251. 251 Greg Richards said at 10:00 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Nah, it’s going to be Juan Castillo. Read it here first.

  252. 252 Mac said at 1:11 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Works hard and easy to like. Interview incoming!

  253. 253 BobSmith77 said at 11:26 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    He got his share of critics the last year or so he harped on him being overly negative but yeah he has been.

  254. 254 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:09 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    TCU might win this

  255. 255 oreofestar said at 10:15 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Dont say things like that please!

  256. 256 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:26 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    TCU will win this?

  257. 257 oreofestar said at 10:30 PM on January 2nd, 2016:


  258. 258 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:30 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Oregon saved by Sts?

  259. 259 anon said at 10:26 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    hearnig kelly got fired must have fucked w/ this oregon team

  260. 260 Flyin said at 10:35 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    3yrs and 3000 miles… you’re dead on.

  261. 261 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:36 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Starting QB went down…

  262. 262 Flyin said at 10:26 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I’m planning to enter the HC race. First on my agenda is outlawing double digit beer prices.

  263. 263 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:48 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    Not sure Lurie and Roseman will think that wise.

  264. 264 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:50 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    I really like S/WR Charles Nelson and RB Royce Freeman on this Oregon team

  265. 265 JoeBlow said at 10:55 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    “The proof’s in the pudding now, We’re Playoff dancing because of him. It was good to see that there is repercussions and rewards, repercussions for not playing well, and rewards for doing the right thing. Preparing, performing in practice and in the pre-season. It was just good to know that you get rewarded for hard work and performing.” – Kory Lichtensteiger, Washington Center

    Many think this is a shot at RG3

  266. 266 anon said at 11:03 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    maybe owner — not like rgiii can determine whether he/s going to play

  267. 267 JoeBlow said at 11:05 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    i think it could possibly be both RG3 and the owner

  268. 268 anon said at 11:12 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    interesting is players had same gripe about chip and austin / demarco / kiko, etc.

  269. 269 BobSmith77 said at 11:32 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    So supposedly the Eagles want to interview Gase as soon as possible next week when the season finishes.

    If that is the case, Staley was only interviewed to satisfy the Rooney Rule because he was already available. Even more cynical than I thought several hours ago.

  270. 270 anon said at 11:45 PM on January 2nd, 2016:

    to me it’s been pretty transparent. Though figured there was someone that they might want during bye week.

  271. 271 Tumtum said at 1:32 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Duce isn’t exactly a candidate that other teams would snatch up. Not to mention he is already under contract with the team and couldn’t accept a head coaching job with out the Eagles finding out about it first and having a chance to counter. They have all the opportunity in the world to circle back to him if they choose to. It would be foolish not to interview other candidates first.

    Just interviewing Duce was a great opportunity for him. There is no cynicism here. Calm down.

  272. 272 BlindChow said at 2:08 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Being a pawn in an affirmative action work-around is not an “opportunity.” No one is going to consider him simply because the Eagles gave him an interview. He has neither coordinator nor head coaching experience.

    Plus, satisfying the Rooney Rule early allows you to hire the white guy of your choice as soon as he becomes available.

    Cynicism is absolutely warranted here.

  273. 273 Tumtum said at 2:16 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    You know you’re right. Position coaches never get hired as head coaches in the NFL.

    Everything I said completely holds up. Maybe those doubting it are the cynics. The entire point of the Rooney rules is to give minority candidates opportunities at interviewing for head coaching positions. It isn’t meant to force teams into hiring minority candidates.

  274. 274 Bert's Bells said at 7:16 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Except QB coaches…

    On the broader topic, I’m a fan of the Rooney Rule.

    If Duce was interviewed only to satisfy it, all the better. The man has gotten the chance to prepare for the interview, state his case and give his best shot.

    Yes, absolutely, other teams will see that Lurie considers him a skilled enough coach to hear him out. Maybe that means a co-ordinator position in another city. Maybe it doesn’t mean anything. But the opportunity is everything.

  275. 275 Tumtum said at 12:24 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I was being sarcastic since not only have we hired a position coach as HC, harbs was our dback coach when he got the ravens job. So you would think Philly fans wouldn’t say such things.

  276. 276 Bert's Bells said at 12:44 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Right on. Harbaugh had experience coaching the ST unit, too. Which means -Fipp is the new Harbaugh.

  277. 277 BobSmith77 said at 2:34 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Pretty much the way I see it with the news that they want to interview Gase as soon as possible as the season ends.

    By already interviewing Staley, that gives up them a potential leg up on other teams including the Dolphins.

    Basically was okay which black guy on our coaching staff can we give a sham interview to this week so we can immediately look to interview Gase as soon possible next week.

  278. 278 D3FB said at 6:15 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Gase would still have to come back for a second round of interviews. They aren’t going to just hire him after that first round.

  279. 279 Tumtum said at 1:27 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Interviewing Duce is great. I really like it. Will he get the job? Heck no. This interview is good for everyone in many ways.

    It does satisfy the Rooney Rule. Lurie does get to have a close chat with a guy that will clearly have a very good vein on this team. I don’t imagine there are usually opportunities for a position coach and the owner to have long talks.

    This interview helped Duce out a lot too. It breaks the ice for him on interviewing for HC jobs, and probably helps with coordinator job interviews too. It will help him in the future should other opportunities arise. It also gets his name out there for other teams to think about.

  280. 280 anon said at 1:54 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    yup some of benefits of the rule is just getting name on national stage.

  281. 281 Tumtum said at 2:17 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Rooney himself has said as much.

  282. 282 The original AG said at 6:45 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I just read an article that said they get the first crack at Gase, since Duce filled the Rooney requirement.


  283. 283 Tumtum said at 12:26 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I don’t dispute that at all

  284. 284 TXEaglesFan said at 1:28 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Off topic, was there a reason the team didn’t IR Logan and maxwell and then poach a couple of practice squad players? Perhaps an opportunity missed among all the other excitement going on.

  285. 285 Tumtum said at 1:29 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Smart idea. Exactly something I hope the next guy would do.

  286. 286 myartz04 said at 1:53 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Not having a coach is probably the reason. Who knows what system we will be in both offensively and defensively.

  287. 287 D3FB said at 6:13 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    It’s the lack of a coaching staff. With no clue what they are going to want it’s hard to make any moves. Of the 4 guys I liked on other people PS at the beginning of the week:

    Brock Vereen- S w/ CB tendencies. Probably not something a new staff values
    Shaq Richardson- Long but skinny man CB. If new scheme is anything with more physical aspect for CB he’s useless
    Marion Grice- Good 3rd down change of pace who is good receiver. Probably fits best in spread zone scheme.
    Ben Gardener- If he ever catches on it’s going to be as undersized subpackage 5 tech pass rusher.

    Plus all PS guys are free agents. The better ones that you would want probably feel more comfortable in the situation they are in going forward than going to a team they don’t know w/o a coach.

  288. 288 Tumtum said at 12:27 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Technically we can just snag those guys on futures contracts if we really want though, right?

  289. 289 D3FB said at 6:14 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Technically yes. But those get signed in the coming days so same condundrum.

  290. 290 Tumtum said at 1:16 PM on January 4th, 2016:


  291. 291 BlindChow said at 2:02 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Um, they did IR Logan and sign Randall Evans from the practice squad.

    Not sure about Maxwell.

  292. 292 anon said at 2:05 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    denver about to lose their whole squad in FA – i’d try and get someone in their scouting department – they’ve drafted pretty well.

  293. 293 Media Mike said at 7:05 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Tom Heckert?

    And I’m not being sarcastic.

    Although he’s currently their pro personnel director, but could identify a few people in their organization to come here on promotions with him.

  294. 294 BobSmith77 said at 2:43 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    So loser of the Giants-Eagles game today has to travel over to London next season to play the Rams. Really is a ‘loser leaves the country’ game.

  295. 295 Howie Littlefinger said at 3:03 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    but it counts as an away game I think. Give me that. an away game at a neutral site. We don’t win home games anyways

  296. 296 AsianEagle said at 3:23 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    What a strange game that will be… Coughlin is resigning and Shurmur is the interim HC and both teams will be trying to lose.

  297. 297 Media Mike said at 7:02 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Replacing @ Seattle vs. neutral site vs. Rams; YES PLEASE.

    Plus I’ll be entering every possible free ticket / travel contest to see the Eagles in London.

  298. 298 Anders said at 7:07 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    As a Dane, I would 100% try to get London tickets if they play there next season.

  299. 299 Media Mike said at 7:08 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Cobbling together the mix of airfare, game tickets, lodging, and days off from work would be fun!

  300. 300 Insomniac said at 5:16 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    So I just found out that Oregon lost in a triple overtime. Three and out just like their former coach loves to do πŸ˜‰

  301. 301 The original AG said at 6:42 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    The fact they gave up a 28-point lead is atrocious. I turned that game off thinking they had it won. I can see which way that program is headed.

  302. 302 scratcherk said at 8:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    31 pt lead

  303. 303 Eagles News: Howie Roseman needs to be held accountable - said at 6:20 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    […] Duce is Numero Uno – Iggles BlitzThe thing you love about Duce is that he’s worked his way up the football ladder as a player and coach. He was a junior college player before earning a spot at South Carolina. He was then a 3rd round pick and had to sit behind Ricky Watters and Charlie Garner. Duce earned playing time and eventually became the heart and soul of the offense in 1999. When Reid gave Duce a coaching job, it was bottom of the barrel. Duce started as an intern and then became a STs assistant. Kelly hired him to coach the RBs in 2013. Nothing has ever been given to Duce. He understands the process of working your way from the bottom to the top. A lot of former star players don’t have the desire or patience to do this. I have a lot of respect for those players who become coaches and grind away just like everyone else in the coaching community. […]

  304. 304 Ray888 said at 7:27 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    This AM’s Boston Globe (Ben Volin): Lurie panicked in firing CK & pandered to fans after only one season of total control for CK. It needed to be evaluated over several seasons not just one. Another note has Saints looking to trade Sean Peyton to a team looking for a proven NFL coach.

  305. 305 Media Mike said at 7:30 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Lurie doesn’t pander to fans. If that was the case our cheerleads would be wearing less clothes, Dawkins would have shrine in the stadium, and Andy Reid would have been fired going into the Westbrook punt return TD game vs. the Giants.

    Ben Volin needs to buy a clue.

  306. 306 Dave said at 7:51 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    ..and the team colors would have reverted back to Kelly Green!

  307. 307 A_T_G said at 8:26 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    …and Dawkins shrine would be down the hall from Urlacker’s.

  308. 308 Ray888 said at 8:45 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    It’s helpful to get the perspective of one of the best out-of-town football columnists. You don’t have to agree but you should reflect on it for more a few seconds before saying he doesn’t have a clue. I don’t think he would say that about your writings; he probably would point out that your too close to the situation to be objective. He also points out that any totally new coaching regime will take a couple of years to re-do roster & install new system. Welcome to the purgatory of re-building!

  309. 309 Media Mike said at 9:02 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    “He also points out that any totally new coaching regime will take a couple of years to re-do roster & install new system. Welcome to the purgatory of re-building!”

    Valid, totally valid.

    The anti-fan screed that he started with is an apostasy however.

  310. 310 P_P_K said at 11:35 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Scantly clad cheerleaders, Dawk shrine, prompt firings — Media Mike for an Eagles front office position!

  311. 311 DJH said at 8:06 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He was released because he alienated the players, the FO, and the owner, not because of going 26-21 over three years.

  312. 312 Media Mike said at 7:28 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    D3 made a comment a few (or more) weeks ago, that we needed to go get a QB in this draft.

    So I’m down to two ideas; take Goff if the combine people nit pick him enough that he drops or trade down from 9, pick up additional picks (including a 2nd rounder), and go get Wentz. This would, for now, assume that those are the only two guys you’d like from this draft to have higher potential to be a long term starter on this team. I really don’t like Lynch or Cook. Anybody else is a long shot or needs to switch positions in the NFL. In either case, I’d bring Bradford back on a franchise tag or shorter term deal negotiated with the leverage from the franchise tag.

    So here is a Goff version of a draft

    Round 1 Pick 12: Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 12: Kyle Murphy, OT, Stanford (A)
    Round 3 Pick 13: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 12: Denver Kirkland, OT/OG, Arkansas (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 12: Ricky Seals-Jones, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 21: Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, Louisville (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 12: Taveze Calhoun, CB, Mississippi State (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 12: Rushel Shell, RB, West Virginia (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 31: Terrance Smith, OLB, Florida State (A)

  313. 313 Media Mike said at 7:38 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    And here is a Wentz version of one.

    Round 1 Pick 20 (NYJ): Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State (B)
    Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Max Tuerk, C/OG, Southern California (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 12: Shon Coleman, OT, Auburn (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 13: Jayron Kearse, SS, Clemson (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 20 (NYJ): Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 12: Yannick Ngakoue, OLB, Maryland (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 12: Kamalei Correa, OLB, Boise State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 21: Ricky Seals-Jones, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 12: Taveze Calhoun, CB, Mississippi State (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 12: Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois (A)
    Round 7 Pick 31: Jason Fanaika, DE, Utah (A)

  314. 314 Fufina said at 8:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I like the trade back and Wentz scenario… but he needs to ride the pine for 1-2 years frankly, Jump is going to be just too big to throw him to the wolves with.

    Not sure i am looking forward to a year of the Sanchize but if thats what we need to do to bridge i am all for it.

  315. 315 Media Mike said at 9:01 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’m WAY into making any QB ride the pine for a year.

    But I think it can be done behind Bradford.

  316. 316 Fufina said at 9:52 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Bradford is going to cost $16mil+ at best… that makes free agency pretty damn complicated since we need to extend Cox, Ertz, Logan – consider resigning Thurmond/Carrol/Curry…. and rebuild O line.

    Free agency is going to go bonkers in the next 2 years so you really want to lock up talent this year…

  317. 317 Media Mike said at 10:03 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’m keeping Cox on his 5th year option for 2016 and tagging him in 2017 if I have to.

    Logan and Ertz are very easy deals to do if you go 5 or 6 years for them.

    Curry, if you indeed go back to a 4-3, should get (at most) the Everson Griffen deal. I’d just put more of it into a bonus and smooth out the cap hits a tad.


    I think you’re going to need to be prepared for Thurmond (might want long term CB money and he’s been injured way too often prior to coming here) and Carroll (that’s why you drafted Rowe) not coming back.

    You can still fit some smart o-line additions on 5 or 6 year deals and Bradford for 2016 and beyond given cuts / reductions of Peters, Celek, Cooper, and Ryans getting us to about $35 mil under the cap for next year.

  318. 318 Fufina said at 10:07 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    It can be done i don’t disagree.. but it makes thinks tough down the line since there will be very limited cap flexibility, since you will be back ending deals, and signing guys to more expensive deals down the line…

    And that is a strange move to do unless you think you have a contending roster imho…

    Depends on who our head coach is ofc… if he is all in with Bradford then lets ride or die… if wants to go for a rookie/developmental guy then lets do that.

  319. 319 Media Mike said at 10:33 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    What I have planned is predicated on Bradford not being on the books for more than 2017 and our first round QB this year being very affordable until the 2021 season given the current CBA.

  320. 320 Duce Staley Is A Step In Right Direction Towards A New Coach said at 8:18 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    […] NFL that won’t vouch for Staley’s character as both a worker or a coach. Tommy Lawlor wrote on the subject over at Iggles Blitz, and it’s important to note as he did: There is a stark contrast […]

  321. 321 DJH said at 8:25 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Since I come here to the comments for a round up of Eagles-related news, I figured I’d post this:

    “Chiefs OC Doug Pederson expected to be a leading candidate for Philadelphia HC job, per sources. Pederson coached in Philly from 2009-12. – Schefter via Twitter”

  322. 322 Media Mike said at 9:00 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He’s been climbing the ranks, so an interview for him doesn’t sound that far fetched.

  323. 323 Anders said at 9:04 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Problem is that we can’t interview him for several weeks of the chiefs make it far in the playoffs

  324. 324 Fufina said at 9:30 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Damn the AFC playoffs are crazy complicated going into week 17.. 152 different permutations possible!

    Was looking to see how likely the Chiefs are winning week one… could be having an ‘easy’ game against the Texans or could be playing @ Denver or Bengals.. or could even host a game against the Jets or Denver..

  325. 325 Greg Richards said at 9:01 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Can’t say how Pederson would do as HC but says a lot to me that Reid would make him his OC when he went to KC despite limited experience when he had plenty of other options from his tree(Shurmur, Mornhinweg, Childress, David Culley(their AHC/WRs coach)).

  326. 326 Media Mike said at 9:03 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    And he’s certainly less of a screw-up than McDermott.

  327. 327 Tumtum said at 10:35 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Well said

  328. 328 jshort said at 10:35 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I could live with that. Thought he was up and coming when he left with Andy. He had a lot to do with FOles development I do believe.

  329. 329 Flyineagle45 said at 9:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    What has to happen for us to get a good draft pick besides lose?

  330. 330 Media Mike said at 9:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    other teams winning

  331. 331 BlindChow said at 10:36 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Yeah, I’d love a breakdown of who specifically to root for. I know someone out there has already done the work…

  332. 332 TXEaglesFan said at 11:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    This explanation is only based on eagles losing. If they win then more likely looking at 14-16.

    All 5-10 teams have worse strength of schedule, so they are unpassable to get better pick (Miami, Jax, Balt). Baltimore is 8 right now.

    The 6-9 teams in current draft order (TB, NYG, NO, Phila, Det,Chi). Obviously if we lose to Giants we move up at least one to pick 11. You will want to root for NO over Atl and TB over Caro. That could get us all the way to 9. Detroit plays Chicago so that is a wash, but Detroit losing would elevate our third round pick of theirs. Also I don’t know projected SOS following week 17 results, possible could change our position by 1 or 2.

  333. 333 Forthebirds said at 10:03 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Just before reading this, I posted virtually the same ideas on Birds24/7. You must be a genius too.

  334. 334 Fufina said at 10:12 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Homage to Myron Cope's "A little birdie told me" – Rumors I've heard from people who'd know. Doesn't mean any will come true, but…— Dave Dameshek (@Dameshek) January 3, 2016

    Nick Saban is going to the Colts…— Dave Dameshek (@Dameshek) January 3, 2016

    Parcells disciple Sean Payton wants the Giants job…— Dave Dameshek (@Dameshek) January 3, 2016

  335. 335 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:33 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Ugh. Payton in NY would suck.

  336. 336 DJH said at 10:46 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He wants obj. Scary.

  337. 337 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:47 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Watch him sign Bradford when we fail and turn him into Brees II.

  338. 338 Fufina said at 10:55 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Resigned Manning so thats not happening… but would hate Payton in NY however

  339. 339 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:16 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    They’ll trade Eli to Cleveland for a 1st round pick.

  340. 340 Fufina said at 11:56 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Cannot really… he had a massive signing bonus this year… they loose cap space trading him this year… add in $18mil+ for Bradford they would have nearly $45mil tied up in QB contracts this year!

  341. 341 Greg Richards said at 10:49 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Dave Dameshek

    39m39 minutes ago

    Jon Gruden is making himself available…

  342. 342 DJH said at 10:51 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He wouldn’t want to be in the same division as his brother would he? On the other hand, the more (good) coaches available, the better the Eagles chances of getting the guy they want.

  343. 343 Fufina said at 10:57 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Saban to Colts makes sense.. high profile coach (need to get Luck resigned asap) works for Irsay – and for Saban he gets his QB to work with and he can come in and clean house with his own GM.

    Had not thought of it but if any job gets Saban to leave college football.. this would be it.

  344. 344 Greg Richards said at 11:11 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    You can still love your brother and relish kicking his ass on the field.

  345. 345 bsuperfi said at 10:49 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    There’s so much misinformation coming out of front offices right now it’s impossible to tell anything. Media guys get used all the time. I actually think lurie and probably roseman are some of the best at this.

  346. 346 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:14 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Oh crap. Looks like we’re getting Moose and Goose. My ears started bleeding already.

  347. 347 Greg Richards said at 11:19 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Tom Pelissero
    Verified account


    5m5 minutes ago

    Teams can start requesting coach interviews at midnight. Among names worth watching for #Eagles: Teryl Austin, Ben McAdoo, Doug Pederson

  348. 348 Greg Richards said at 11:25 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    PFT just tweeted to keep an eye on Chip Kelly to Browns.

  349. 349 Tdoteaglefan said at 11:29 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I would love to see him get the browns job. If he can bring them even moderate success it would be great for him and that city

  350. 350 TypicalDouche said at 11:31 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I hope he gets the Browns job and they stay below mediocre.

  351. 351 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:32 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Id be cool with him winning with the Browns

  352. 352 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:34 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I can see the Browns being still very, very interested in Chip, given that they can never get the coach they really want. But, if either Miami or Tennessee come through with an offer for Chip, the Browns will lose again. The Dolphins and Titans have QBs, the Browns do not.

  353. 353 Fufina said at 11:52 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Browns can draft one this year however… Goff could be a very attractive fit with Chip, and that roster has talent… although a lot of guys who i am not sure are the kind of ‘culture’ Chip aspires too.

    So much will depend on how much Chip has learnt for his time with the Eagles…. If he can learn the right lessons he can be a great coach… if not then probably not.

  354. 354 Insomniac said at 11:58 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    If he goes to the Browns then we finally do have a shot at Josh Gordon now!!

  355. 355 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:58 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Josh Brown for Kiko Alonso!! Make it so, Howie.

  356. 356 Tdoteaglefan said at 12:00 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    How bout josh gordon and marcus smith for riley cooper and barkevoius mingo?

  357. 357 Insomniac said at 12:04 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Fire sale on ex-Oregon players. I would keep Bair if we’re staying with the 3-4 though.

  358. 358 Julescat said at 12:24 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    which talented Browns players can we pick up after Chip cuts them?

  359. 359 Fufina said at 11:55 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    One thing i hope we do as we move on from Chip is retain much of the sports science advancements Chip introduced.

    Good diet, sleep, training techniques are the future and should be embraced by the new coaching staff, but prehaps in a more friendly manor, and combined with a more classical coaching approach

  360. 360 Tdoteaglefan said at 11:59 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Completely agree..ive been a follower of australian proponents of sports science like charles poloquin etc. since i was in high school. really hope our new head coach is open minded in that regard

  361. 361 Tdoteaglefan said at 11:56 AM on January 3rd, 2016:

    So starting corners today are Rowe, biggers and randall “fresh off practice squad” evans

  362. 362 Fufina said at 11:58 AM on January 3rd, 2016:


  363. 363 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:00 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I hope they put Rowe on OBJ all game. Get him ready for the future. That’s your responsibility for years to come Eric. Good luck.

  364. 364 Insomniac said at 12:01 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Rowe would be the worst matchup against ODB. ODB is too shifty and sudden for Rowe.

  365. 365 Fufina said at 12:02 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Sounds good then.. match him up single coverage all day please.

  366. 366 Insomniac said at 12:03 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Oh right I forgot that we’re playing to lose.

  367. 367 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:03 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Something tells me Biggers and Evans won’t fare much better. Besides, Rowe has played well. Surprisingly well. Reward him with the big assignment.

  368. 368 Insomniac said at 12:05 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I would stick Watkins on him. He sticks to WRs but ODB is a different animal that would just make circus catches on him. That’s slightly better than just giving up easy passes right?

  369. 369 Greg Richards said at 12:06 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Watkins is inactive with a shin injury.

  370. 370 Insomniac said at 12:07 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Ah ok I didn’t see that. That makes sense.

  371. 371 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 12:07 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    if a guy is going to make impossible catches with tight coverage then there is nothing you can do about it

  372. 372 A_T_G said at 12:30 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I think it would be interesting to be physical with OBJ and see if he responds poorly again. Rowe can handle that.

  373. 373 Greg Richards said at 12:06 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Denzel Rice likely to get reps ahead of Evans.

  374. 374 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:12 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Anyone else see that? Shot of Coughlin’s family, about 15 grandkids, at the game today. That, more than anything else, seals it.

    All the best to Tom. Honorable enemy.

  375. 375 A_T_G said at 12:28 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Maybe the Giants will be hyped up to win one for the Gipper.

  376. 376 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:31 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’m counting on it.

  377. 377 Greg Richards said at 12:13 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Brandon Lee Gowton

    3m3 minutes ago

    .@TheRealDGunnCSN reports that Doug Pederson being a leading candidate for the Eagles coaching job is false.

  378. 378 Julescat said at 12:23 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    sounds like Pederson’s agent planted that story

  379. 379 Greg Richards said at 12:29 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I think he’ll get an interview but more as a “safety school” type if the Eagles don’t land their top choice.

  380. 380 Greg Richards said at 12:26 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Jason La Canfora

    16s16 seconds ago

    Adam Gase will have tough decision where to take his first interview. CLE, MIA, PHI all have serious interest…



  381. 381 Aaron said at 12:39 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    so Im thinking that alot of folks are hoping the eagles
    lose, for draft pick purposes, but will still complain if they do

  382. 382 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:44 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Yep. That’s me.

  383. 383 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:45 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I also want the loss for the “away” game in London vs. the L.A. Rams next year.

  384. 384 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:47 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Game thread is up: