Game Preview – PHI at SEA
Posted: November 20th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 451 Comments »Carson Wentz and the Eagles played well against the Falcons defense last week. Seattle runs basically the same scheme. That’s good news, right? There is one small difference. Seattle has good players.
After watching #Seahawks D on tape, I don't see how Eagles score 10 points Sunday unless Eagles D creates turnovers/great field position.
— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) November 15, 2016
I certainly don’t agree with that, but this is going to be a real challenge. The Eagles get one bit of good news, with DL Michael Bennett still out due to injury. Unfortunately Kam Chancellor returned last week and he’s a huge part of that secondary (literally and figuratively).
I wrote my preview for PE.com and talked about the need for another good rushing performance. I doubt the Eagles go for 208 yards again this week, but they need to run the ball a lot. You don’t want to throw the ball against Seattle too much.
- Rookie QB
- Poor WRs
- Let’s their DL tee off and crowd noise helps the pass rush
Even if you run 3 times, get 8 yards and punt, that isn’t necessarily a bad possession. The key is for the Eagles defense to keep Seattle from putting up points. If Russell Wilson starts making plays, you have to open up the offense and take some chances.
As I said in the preview, this is a game where the Eagles need their stars to play like stars. Fletcher Cox has been solid for the past month. Today the Eagles need him to be huge. They need him to be regularly disruptive.
I’m curious to see if Jim Schwartz rushes 4 and focuses on coverage or if he blitzes to force Wilson to stay in the pocket. One of the real keys to this game is for the Eagles to limit big plays. Seattle has enough weapons that they can move the ball on long drives, but they are most deadly when they get the big pass plays. The Eagles DL must win the battle up front and the DBs need to plaster receivers. Wilson extends plays with his legs. DBs must cover until the whistle blows.
The Eagles really put the clamps on PIT and ATL. They will need a similar defensive effort today in order to win this game.
The offense has to limit penalties and avoid turnovers. The Seattle D is too good. You cannot help them out.
INACTIVES — Terrence Brooks, Aaron Grymes, Steven Means, Matt Tobin, Josh Andrews, Dillon Gordon, Taylor Hart.
— Zach Berman (@ZBerm) November 20, 2016
Couple of interesting notes. Tobin is normally the #3 OT. Allen Barbre is healthy and would likely move outside if there was an injury. I think the Eagles like having Isaac Seumalo active. He is bigger and more physical than Tobin so he helps the extra OL run sets.
Kamu Grugier-Hill is back and will be a big part of STs. He was very good early this year.
Nolan Carroll, Jordan Matthews and Zach Ertz are all playing. All 3 need to play well today if the Eagles are going to pull off the upset.
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I think the Eagles will get good pressure against Seattle’s O-line, but I am very nervous about Wilson avoiding the pass rush and making big plays.
Moving on to Vikings game for a few minutes before I catch beginning of Rams game. I have no hope for NYG or DAL games.
Not expecting Ertz to show up after that hit on Gronk last week.
Who’s starting at LG? Wiz or Barbre?
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Bears mounting a comeback…?
jk what was i thinking…
heres the goff era
I don’t know what to expect. On one hand, we’ve beaten teams no one gave us a chance to beat. On the other hand, we’re lousy on the road. I’m expecting the defense to keep us in the game, but I think they pull away late.
goffs first pass — horrid.
game blouses.
x 3
I don’t think Caplan is too far off and most importantly the Eagles need to convert in the red zone this week. Don’t see them having more than 3 chances and they need to convert at least 2/3 of them for TDs to have a decent chance to win.
The other question is which version of Mathews shows up this week. If the Eagles don’t get last week’s version, I see their chances being minimal.
Don’t need 100+ yds and multiple scores but they do need him to hit the holes decisively and quickly, add some yards after contact like he did last week, and not fumble.
Arizona still has a chance to make this day not a complete loss for us so far.
Out of all 3 Tommy listed, I am least confident in Ertz playing well. Seahawks have troubled at times with the 2nd TE this year but done a good/very good job on primary TE.
I see Ertz at 3-4 catches this week with 25-35 yards.
surprised celek hasnt caught more passes this year. maybe trey will have a decent day
nevermind.
Yeah, thanks Arizona. Pfffttttbbhhhbhbh
Very winnable game. I think we match up well, just worried about a litany of false starts, delays of game, and other procedural stuff.
Think Caplan has this pegged. We need a game like last year’s NE game. Lots of turnovers going our way with a big special teams play.
deferred.
playing against wilson is typically infuriating.
Fletcher got good push up the middle.
Is that rain, or smoke?
both.
They pass reefer?
good stop d
Good start
C Ocks tight can mske 1 handed TD catches with bodies hanging on him .. that worries me the most
Got GEagle proofreading your posts?
To me its the C (instead of “Sea”) and the Ocks . . Obviously a softer pronounced “hawks”
Nice job D, their OL looks like no match for our DL.
in series one
Whoever was hyping the 2nd TE… here we go
This also bodes well
On that pass play, Burton quadrupled Ertz’s YAC yardage total for the year.
CBS using any two second break to shove a commercial up our ass
Fake injury. They’re just slowing the game down and stopping our momentum.
Is that Burton out wide instead of Ags. I’m so pumped right now.
Good hands by Burton, that wasn’t a simple catch.
Goff’s accuracy is alllll over the place.
But his inaccuracy is right on
love running up the middle
Peters false start.
peters…
False start counter: 1
Que Kelce in 3,2,1
FLAG
Worms burnt.
1st 2 passes to TEs. I am so happy right now
3 passes
isnt 100 miles north of seattle Canada?
Settle down carson
Oh yeah. Keep it going!
Coming out throwing to back the D off the line. Hope it works
Wonder if the wet ball is an issue.
That’s what she said
I’ll take that one from Wentz. Kid’s learning.
Looked like Wentz is really screaming in the huddle.
peters decked someone
Donnie Jones needs to be huge this game and pin the Hawks deep.
hopefully that extension doesn’t go to his head
Somebody got laid out
well thats something.
Bad angles by McCleod and Mills on that one.
jesus, that was Cox keeping up with him.
ballgame
cox almost outran mcleod
he’s been resting all season
damn what just happened?
the eagles just happened
Nicely done
Wow Mills…..
Bennie Logan blocked the point after.
pay that man.
that vaunted Eagles D line just got punched in the balls again
Now I remember why I hate the wide-9.
to be fair, wouldn’t have mattered whatver the alignment with how well their OL bulldozed our DL out of the way.
Also had Mills take a bad angle and run himself out of the play. McCleod took a bad angle then too.
11 PATs missed today
just run it 3x’s and punt
that’s 1
2x’s now
wouldn’t recommend punting now.
almost time
RUN THE BALL ANDY!…
RUN THE BALL ANDY JR. !!!!!
now comes our running game
That’s OK. Let ’em know we’ll go for it, though that ball needed to be deeper.
Treggs actually had the speed to burn Thomas. Not enough juice on the pass and not enough field anyways, barring a perfect pass, but encouraging to see the deep threat.
Just a late throw.
Yeah I agree with that. He got pressure faster than expected I think.
Earlier throw would’ve done it.
brave to throw early vs this secondary though
Yeah. Hope it opens some things up
If the player was DeSean maybe. I wouldn’t be so quick to throw deep against Earl Thomas when targeting a UDFA who has been active for 3 weeks and have 2 NFL catches.
Alright placement. late throw.
Is Chancellor back in yet?
was only out 1 play I think
Did coach just pull our best WR off the field on a 3rd & 9?
phil simms is suchaan idiot
fucckkkkk
he had R matt on check down too
and of course Tobin isn’t active today.
Barbre kicks out and Wiz comes in.
not looking so good so far…
The run game is dead now, too, if Peters doesn’t come back.
CBS may break the record for commercials in a quarter here
Ags was open but he would have dropped it
Marcus Smith sighting.
GEagle probably creaming his pants right about now then
That’s kind of what his Marcus Darling chant always sounded like to me anyway.
Good play. He’s not trash
Dline all over that
3 and out sweet
Mills with near PI finger wag
You can knock Mills for his finger wag all you want, but it’s gotta be absolutely infuriating.
Good coverage Mills.
pretty good D except for one play. but that one play tho…
Barbre in at LT.
Wis in at LG according to Kempski
forearm…cmon man..rub some dirt on it
Hope it’s just a bruise
Nice nice play.
nice dgb
a DGB sighting..nice
DGB can run a slant
I’m surprised Ertz didn’t drop the ball when he saw Kam coming in for the tackle
There’s a brown spot on the back of his pants
That’s the “away” uniform
You have to keep the D honest and run to the outside, but man I hate doing that against a speedy defense.
HATE that long throw, underthrown, to Treggs … we killed our own momentum
gonna be on that pick play
need better acting
hit the hole hard.
2 big 3rd down conversions
There you go little erection
Nice job by Smallwood
“Hey the Eagles go the first down, but let’s talk about the guy who had a shitty tackle attempt.” ~ Phil Simms.
run it twice.
Play action. Dug will go anyway
So glad we learned how to do that.
looked like a false start to me but love hte sneak
Didn’t think we had that play
Love that. QB dive. Push the pile.
sweet..I cant remember seeing a Wentz sneak
I can’t remember it being successful. We failed at it a couple times.
when a stiff arm misses, it looks funny
Doug is calling a hell of a drive so far.
LOVE CELEK
Fucking finally. Feed that man.
all of youfans of ertz, celek is still better
Brent Celek gets tackled by 17 Seahawks.
Celek = money!
Put Ertz in a room and make him watch that play on a loop for 5 hours
Can’t teach toughness.
Sadly you are correct
Schmertz doesn’t look like he works out upper body
That’s how you YAC!!
pound it
looks like a giant cheeto over his lip
Mathews a little gimpy there.
YAC BABY!
literally one yard.
Baby steps.
I’ll take it from the 1 yd line
Yea
Nice route and play by Ertz there.
Yay Ertz
Tight Ends all day today.
Two of the most unlikely things happened.
We scored on a throw in the RZ.
Ertz almost broke the tackle.
Bizarro world where refs are terrible in our favor and Ertz went through someone for a touchdown, wtf
i’ll take it all day
That certainly feels good.
Especially given that we completed most of that drive without JP, it was very impressive.
Hopefully not jinxing it, but pass pro looked solid on the drive
beautiful
DGB takes big hit from Chancellor and hardly flinches.. love it
Are you like 2 hours behind?
I was thinking just by a few minutes
I SAW AGHOLAR THROW a nice block
That was awesome kick coverage.
how the heck did they get down theere so fast.
Seahawks fans are so salty about the refs that drive. I love it. Makes me feel good about all the times we bitch about no calls.
Hot Brunette drinking a beer
NICE FUCKING D
Jesus, that was a good clean hit by Carroll.
GREAT TONE SETTING HIT CARROLL
Hicks looked about ready to kill some seahawk after the play.
What a beautiful sound.
Holy crap Jim Schwartz for president, we are being more physical than Seattle, what was the last Eagle team you can say that about
does that mean trump coaches our D then
it would be one pussy grabbing D
make the eagles great again!
maybe the 2004 team.
c’mon turnover
That’s a pick
Just realized we now need to root for Dallas to beat WAS next week. Ugh.
nah, cant do it.
Have to 🙁
im still holding out hope for a collapse, too early in the season.
Nope.
PI
god damn it
someone needs to set the edge on that
DL is really struggling on this drive.
rawls is a load
Playing that soft on 2nd & 30 was a mistake
2nd and 20*
Wait, it was 2nd and 30!?! WTF!
2nd and 20. Wilson passed for 17 the next play.
Coming back. OPI.
Opi
FLAG
PICK
dont agree withit actually, not a pick
but ill take it
Graham is such a moron
So, 3rd and 16? I have not TV access. Boston.
3rd and 11 now.
Offsides. 3 and 11
I’m back. Crying baby. My daughter, not Ertz. Let’s go Birds!
thought he got back
wtf was that.
Jaylen Watkins with a hug instead of a tackle attempt.
Cox got held
definitely
Back judge was out of position to call it.
Ole tackling
jeez, thought he was throwing it away
That was vintage Russell Wilson.
Ugh.
Not much of an effort to tackle by Watkins, what was that
Watkins WTF? It’s not Ertz you’re tackling.
Mccloud is playing injured. Has to be. Showed no long speed on the td run and briefly grabbed his leg after the Jimmy Graham td
Piss poor showing by the defense on that drive.
If only this were two hand touch. Watkins would make the HoF.
Where’s the double coverage on Graham seriously? The guy has been on a tear lately and it’s like people forgot that he’s a beast…
Here I was thinking Jaylen Watkins deserved more playing time. What do I know?
In preseason maybe
Graham does have like 70 pounds on him.
PETERS and r Mathews out. Gonna be tough to win this one
False, Peters back in.
Peters is back
PETERS back
Complain all you want about the tackle, but Watkins is giving up 70 pounds to Graham. Its a mismatch once Graham gets the ball in his hands.
That’s a tough matchup
Hoping that Pederson doesn’t default to Sproles as his #1 back now if/when R-Mathews cannot return.
Actually now that Mathews is out I wouldn’t mind that.
Smallwood has more carries than Sproles right now
He got a few
like 3
Ertz back to his usual 0 yac
Don’t run backwards mathews thanks.
ESPN Gane Cast is driving me insane.
falg fuck
Who cost us a TD.
Dammit.
damnit
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Welp, shit.
ARE U KIDDING
THEY CALLED THAT?!
thats the worst fucking shit.
It was too good to be true
Bad call
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowooooooooooooooowwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Lol
He’s like an inch too far back
the one time ertz has any YAC -called back
an inch cost us 7 pts.
How was that a penalty
Matthews needed to be up on the line of scrimmage. He lined up about half a yard too deep.
He was the lead receiver, right? From the angle I had, he was on the line.
He wasn’t on the line, he was even with Peters.
the refs giveth and the refs taketh.
Jordan Mathews was the one who lined up wrong.
thats an infuriating penalty, how do you not line up right….
That was the most yac you will ever see from Ertz, that was it, back to self-tacklin
In fairness it was still 0 yards after contact
Really need the defense to step up here. Can’t go into halftime down 2 scores.
Awesome, 2 huge plays where we fucked up. Mills costs us 6 on the Procise run, Mathews costs us 7 because he doesn’t line up properly.
WRs on the open side routinely look to the official before the snap to ask if they’re OK.
No excuse. None at all.
God a hate Jordan Matthews. He’s like a Casey Matthews with some talent
This game is getting away
gross -we really needed that td
of course u go deep after that
That’s game. Can’t make mistakes like that in Seattle
wtf omg
Eagles on the road.
Eagles play like they’ve never practiced
Mills on coverage. What do we truly expect?
Matthews’ mistake too
if only he wasnt out.. woulda been a touchabck
Stupid shit killing us on the road again.
damn, again? whatever dallas is 9-1 no good end to this season
What was I saying?
Welp we were totally competitive for a quarter and a half
Jalen Mills people.
Didn’t see him finger wag on that play.
Do they serve humble pie in Seattle?
He is just too slow
That was clearly jenkins fault.
well thats a win
That FG was actually a mini win for us, all things considered.
Mini wins tend to add up to losses
take em when u can get them
it’s only 9 points and we’re a second half team. so it’s not all that bad right?
If we can kill the clock and get some points here we have a shot.
and we’re going to score here to make it a 2 pt lead
I still can’t believe that penalty
Buggest play of the game so far
They usually check with ref and get a nod that they are okay. No idea why he wouldn’t there
Time to unleash Agholor. Been holding him back all season for this special moment.
if by unleash you mean “tell him to run and keep running until he gets to the arctic circle” then yes
and running and running..
to squirt gatorade in the players mouths?
So we’re sending Agholor over to knee cap Wilson?
Look at the Eagles’ costly penalties today . . .
Graham offsides.
Matthews’ formation.
Mistakes of *omission* — not commission.
No excuse.
I just rewatched the TD by Ertz called back. Nelson was 2 1/2 yards off the line if scrimmage. How do you spell liability…A-G-H-O-L-O-R
It was Matthews.
Nope, it was Ags
It was Matthews, not agholor
I just rewatched it again, it was ags
Called it!
Into the sun…
Agholor wide open. Ball in the right spot. Dropped.
Ag you fuckign worthless piece of shit.
Greg Lewis sighting
The funniest fucking drop!
leave the fucker behind after the game.
he needs to get benched
AGHOLORRRRRRRRRRR
I have never thrown something in response to a game in my life but I wanted to after agholars drop
Unreal. How is Agholor so bad?
We can let Agholor back on the way home..but we’re dropping him off to the nearest AFL team for a stick of juicy fruit.
only if prechewed.
Anybody else beginning to find Agholor becoming so bad it’s funny?
I didn’t think we would find someone worse than Huff and Cooper combined. Chip Kelly truly is a genius.
Huff and Cooper combined aren’t worth Agholor’s draft points cost either
Remember when he was supposed to come in and fill Maclin’s shoes without a problem…. ugh… this is why the cost of Maclin would have been justified… lost a 1st round pick over $1 mil/yr.
look at maclin’s stats this year – wasted $11m
Maclin is still better than Agholor any day, but that’s besides the point. We had to use a 1st to pick up a replacement for Maclin.
halftime can’t come fast enough
Jesus fucking christ
Bad punt. They have plenty of time to score again.
There not even that fucking good
Neither are we, apparently
So Ags cost us 7 pts, then probably at least another three with that drop. Get him on the fucking bench.
Give Treggs and Burton those snaps.
anyone, hes costing us points.
well that’s everyone else. god it’s depressing
What is so hard to understand. Ags is hot garbage, but the penalty was on Matthews
nah it was ags.
NO it was Matthews.
It was ags, why does everyone think it was JMatt?
Because it was Matthews Pederson was talking to after that play about lining up wrong. Why do you tihnk it’s Agholor?
it was ags, i rewatched it
IN that case, strap his ass to a rocket and fire it into the sun because I”m sick of his bullshit.
They show G Lew screaming at him .. they hsve to cancel his pkane ticket hom
I have a DVR and rewatched it in slow motion, it was ags, unless JMatt changed his number to 17
No, the penalty was on Agholor
I am not going to rewind, but it was the guy closest to the LOS. I was almost certain it was Matthews
was def #17
they showed pederson talking to matthews after the play but it was #17 lined up in front.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/314ac9288d27166449670357f5329991b880e7e7c9cff66b3c509301aae3ef7e.jpg
Then Greg Lewis was chewing the wrong guy out. Pretty sure he knows who lined up wrong.
Also, it was 17.
Whatever they all suck. We need multiple WRs next year
Basically yes. One big ass motherfucker that can play those jumpballs and one fast ass motherfucker that can stretch the field.
Pretty much Alshon Jeffery and DeSean Jackson.
Nope, #17
I’m ready to give up on Nelson Agholor. If that guy is on the team next year I will be very disappointed.
You may be the last on that bandwagon. Anyone else still not on board?
At this point I want Seattle to destroy us. I want them to show our guys that they can’t play like this. I don’t want us to lose by one posses n so we can say we were close. We suck right now
this is how they set us up for that TD last time.
Yeah do we really want to force Wilson to throw deep? No thanks
U wanna protest something? Protest our WRs
Not my wide out?
Discriminatory to catches
Offensive to viewers.
Deplorables
2 plays worth 82 yards lost because of lapses in concentration by WRs
On the silver lining side, I am pleasantly surprised that Dougie did not graduate from the Andy Reid school of timeouts, cheeseburgers, and clock management. He usually makes the right call.
I think having Ags active, let alone playing is the wrong call
Clearly, but let me grasp those straws.
Question . . .
Pederson saw the problem with the WR not at the LOS.
Worth a T.O.?
Now it would be
Shouldn’t Pederson have called timeout on the illegal formation?
Doesn’t mean Ertz runs for a TD the next play
Still saves the penalty yardage and haven’t wasted one of your best plays against this great d
Need a return now
So, let’s see. TD called back for stoopidity and a drop of a 25+ yd pass. Can we deactivate him at halftime and get someone that wants to play?
Paul Turner
Sproles is hurt.
Ribs/
the only thing that gives me hope about ags is that he showed flashes last year, then had a lot of distractions in the offseason this year, and Brandon Graham
Ok why shallow middle?
yeah, we’ll get it. 3 yards at a fucking time!!!
Our Running back committee is getting a bit thin.
If aids and ebola had a baby, its name would be Agholor.
It’s absolutely mind blowing how Ertz just slipped after he caught the ball.
Yeah, one thing that’s apparent is that Wentz is not comfortable reading deeper zones and hitting the soft spots.
well good -halftime.
and thats what happens when you throw to ags.
…Rewind it and look. This time I thought it was DGB.
you’re right… i just prefer to blame ags.
AS do we all.
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Wentz never saw him.
Don’t know why, he got a real long and detailed look at it
Staring down his WR. Tunnel vision.
So a rookie QB?
Pretty much. Bad habits.
Ironic that Chancellor hit the deck to avoid being tackled by Ertz
This has just been a really frustrating 1st half to watch on several levels including that horrendous illegal formation call on the Ertz TD.
Game changer
Yeah, barring a TD drive and the defense putting some pressure on Wilson, this one got a little too far away from us
We are leaving plays on the field. Can’t win like that
Cant seem to win away.
We get ball 3rd
The good news is that it’s still only a 9 point lead. The bad news is we’re fucking throwing to Agholor down the field instead of Treggs. Sproles and Mathews are banged up. None of our WRs have catches.
Free Turner!
DGB has 1. Matthews has 1 too.
Amazing how this team comes out almost every week and is unprepared mentally on both sides of the ball.
Last game that wasn’t the case was the Steelers’ game.
How can Peterson defend playing agholar
He needs to be asked .. we need to know.. he has to have been asked a buch already
Im tired of Cheat Carroll
Hate him…. they tried to laugh off his goal line td vx Pats last week as redemption for Super Bowl but its not even close .. love that the biggest choke in Super Bowl history is Pete Carroll by himself
Is it bad that I’m most excited for the offseason so Agholor can be cut?
He will be on the roster most likely unfortunately. Costs twice as much to cut him than keep him
I suppose they could use another towel boy.
Yeah as long as they don’t play him unless he has an incredible off season performance
hopefully he will be a backup next year
How about Agholar Jersey night…
Trade Ags to SF
Just wondering, as this question probably got buried down below, but…
Is there anyone out there who is not on the cut Agholor now bus? Besides Doug and Howie, of course.
Me.
Why?
I am not due to the cap penalty. I am however on the place Agholor on IR with a fake injury to get his ass off the roster and team until such time we can cut him.
Just bench him
Yes.
Make him return kicks
What does cutting Agholor do though? I would just rather see Turner got activated though and get a chance.
They need somebody, anybody, who can run a route crisply, catch a ball, and help them convert on 3rd down.
Just costs us money , cap space stuff
, ,
Do we get the ball to start 2nd?
Yes.
Yes
They are the better team, but we are not that far off.
Yeah just a few bad breaks that half although both 1st drives performances were pretty poor.
Pederson comes out throwing, throwing, throwing and the defense got caught absolutely flat-footed vs run.
We aren’t, but we fall much further off because of the stupid mistakes.
Is Tulloch still on team ?
New thread:
http://igglesblitz.com/2016/11/halftime-sea-phi/#disqus_thread
I love what Doug said to the reporter coming off the field. He sees what Wentz is doing, and he needs to calm him. I think DP’s demeanor is great for a smart, overwhelmed rookie QB. CW telegraphed that pass that was picked off…excitable boy. On the other side, I can appreciate why Jim Schwartz signed Bradham. He likes to bring the wood, especially to fast RB’s. OL is playing better than I expected after JP left. This game isn’t over yet.