Halftime – PHI 13, WAS 7

Posted: December 11th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 401 Comments »

The Eagles are playing much better today. The offense has moved up and down the field. The defense limited the high-flying Skins offense to 112 yards and 7 points. Caleb Sturgis has nailed 2 FGs and Donnie Jones hasn’t had to punt. Good 1st half.

Not perfect, though.

Carson Wentz is having one of his best games of the year, but he did throw a Red Zone INT. He also failed to connect with a wide open Trey Burton for what would have been a long TD. The run game is 13-37 so far. You’d like a bit more production.

The defense really has only had one bad play, when they gave up a 22-yard TD run to Rob Kelley. They gave up some plays here and there, but that’s part of football. You never stop the other team every single down. The Skins haven’t scored less than 23 points since October. Their offense is explosive and productive. The Eagles D is limiting their effectiveness. The Eagles offense is being methodical and running sustained drives that keep Kirk Cousins on the sidelines.

Good team football.

Keep it up and the losing streak will come to an end.

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401 Comments on “Halftime – PHI 13, WAS 7”

  1. 1 GermanEagle said at 2:30 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    In the meantime Brandon Brooks just gave birth..

  2. 2 Howie Littlefinger said at 2:43 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yea this needs an explanation

  3. 3 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Need a stop here and keep the momentum.

  4. 4 daveH said at 2:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yeah everyone’s back onboard! Nice to be happy for a moment

  5. 5 scratcherk said at 2:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    big cox in his face

  6. 6 scratcherk said at 2:35 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    fcuking flag

  7. 7 anon said at 2:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    coX!!

  8. 8 BobSmith77 said at 2:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Players wanted to shut the media up and they did. First time both sides of the ball showed to play from the outset since the Steelers’ game.

    Good sign for Pederson too.

  9. 9 scratcherk said at 2:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    gtfo out of here with that call

  10. 10 anon said at 2:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    “there’s a flag though” – ugh

  11. 11 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Effin Ertz

  12. 12 SteveH said at 2:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Entz Entz Entz…

  13. 13 Crus57 said at 2:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    frikkin Treebeard knows not to block in the back

  14. 14 scratcherk said at 2:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    bs call, dude dove in front of him and ertz had his hands up

  15. 15 anon said at 2:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    well at least he blocked someone….but really looked like that dude fell…

  16. 16 CTbirdsguy said at 2:40 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Kelce beat bad

  17. 17 SteveH said at 2:40 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It’s PT Cruiser time…

  18. 18 Mitchell said at 2:41 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Gonna give ertz some credit today for breaking a couple tackles.

  19. 19 SteveH said at 2:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    his YAC on the season has jumped from 3 to 19 today. It’s a big step forward for him.

  20. 20 SteveH said at 2:43 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Gah, protection guys protection.

  21. 21 MaybePederson said at 2:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    i still hate chris baker

  22. 22 anon said at 2:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    such dumb play calling. New Linebacker? Hit him with that wheel route. Obviously they’re going to blitz how was their no hot read?

  23. 23 Mitchell said at 2:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I wonder what it would be like to have a line that could provide decent run blocking and pass protection.

  24. 24 scratcherk said at 2:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    how many cornerbacks can we get in one offseason

  25. 25 anon said at 2:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    we just need to get djax off their team.

  26. 26 MaybePederson said at 2:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    we could hold open tryouts and improve at cb

  27. 27 Mitchell said at 2:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That was McKelvin right? He clearly still has hamstring issues. I know we would all like new cbs but right now, Id settle for a healthy one.

  28. 28 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It was only a matter of time

  29. 29 anon said at 2:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Every year he hits us with one.

  30. 30 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:54 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hes auditioning

  31. 31 GermanEagle said at 2:48 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I would take DeSean back in a heartbeat, and I honestly can’t understand why you wouldn’t.

  32. 32 Mitchell said at 2:49 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    #culture

  33. 33 GermanEagle said at 2:50 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    lol. Thanks, Chip.

  34. 34 xeynon said at 2:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Depends on the $$$. He’s better than any of the receivers we have but not worth a top-10 contract.

  35. 35 John Galt said at 2:53 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    All he does is catch touchdowns

  36. 36 xeynon said at 2:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Man, Chip Kelly was so smart to get rid of DeSean Jackson and replace him with Jordan Matthews. Culture is so much important than talent.

  37. 37 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Who’s our back up long snapper?

  38. 38 John Galt said at 2:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Celek I believe

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 2:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Compton on the sideline and the guy with gang ties scores a TD.

    Coincidence? Maybe.

    Actually, yes. Completely a coincidence. Carry on.

  40. 40 scratcherk said at 2:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    PT with the drop..

  41. 41 MaybePederson said at 2:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    he suxxxxxxxx

  42. 42 A_T_G said at 2:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Inconceivable.

  43. 43 Mitchell said at 2:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Cut turner

  44. 44 scratcherk said at 2:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    OPI….

  45. 45 scratcherk said at 2:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    thought i saw a flag….

  46. 46 Checkdown Charlie said at 2:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Love Hate Ertz

  47. 47 MaybePederson said at 2:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    *entz

  48. 48 BobSmith77 said at 2:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Solid starter who has really improved his blocking but isn’t a dynamic TE or a real threat either including in the red zone.

    Still don’t understand why he gets so much angst. This team has much bigger issues including value for the production they get out of contracts.

  49. 49 anon said at 2:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    we going for it?

  50. 50 xeynon said at 2:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    When it comes to meaningless December games playing out the string for a losing team, Zach Ertz is the greatest tight end of all time.

  51. 51 BobSmith77 said at 2:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He does wrack up a lot of stats in 1-2 games a year which help to pad his numbers.

  52. 52 A_T_G said at 2:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    So, Tobin isn’t an extra lineman. Barbe is out?

  53. 53 ConcussedFB said at 2:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Whats up with Dorenbos?

  54. 54 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wrist injury

  55. 55 ConcussedFB said at 3:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Thanks, missed it.

  56. 56 MaybePederson said at 3:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    uh oh

  57. 57 scratcherk said at 3:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    classic

  58. 58 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Not a surprise

  59. 59 scratcherk said at 3:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    now why cant kelce long snap in a pinch…?

  60. 60 John Galt said at 3:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It’s not the same thing. You have to spin the long snap

  61. 61 meteorologist said at 3:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I don’t see why he can’t learn to tho

  62. 62 scratcherk said at 3:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    understood but if anyone on the team should have able to sub in, it should be him…

  63. 63 scratcherk said at 3:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    stupid challenge

  64. 64 xeynon said at 3:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Schwartz’s defense has been MIA for a month now.

  65. 65 anon said at 3:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    so has pederson’s offense

  66. 66 xeynon said at 3:08 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yes but that part has been well documented. Pederson and the offense have been getting ripped to shreds by the media and the fans, Schwartz and the D have not.

  67. 67 anon said at 3:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    No defense huh?????

  68. 68 shah8 said at 3:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    the field goal is sad…

    Wentz doesn’t seem to being able to make any sort of throw into a defense if it’s not his first read, unless it’s right in front of him. He doesn’t seem to be able to really read a defense…

  69. 69 John Galt said at 3:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    If only we had Joe Webb

  70. 70 shah8 said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wouldn’t have cost as much, and we’d have more wins, I suspect. And we could have waited for a more serious QB prospect.

  71. 71 shah8 said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    low key, Chip should have gotten that Mariota trade done.

  72. 72 MaybePederson said at 3:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    cut him. Let’s get dak instead

  73. 73 ConcussedFB said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Because guys are running free all game, right? Or is there something else that makes you criticize him?

  74. 74 Aaron said at 3:21 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    you shut your mouf

  75. 75 Mitchell said at 3:06 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wentz has looked good though.

  76. 76 John Galt said at 3:06 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Holding

  77. 77 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Logan got away with one there

  78. 78 MaybePederson said at 3:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    so did the redskins o line

  79. 79 scratcherk said at 3:08 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    first time ive heard vinny curry’s name in weeks

  80. 80 scratcherk said at 3:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    at least try would ya?

  81. 81 kajomo said at 3:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    These CBs are such garbage

  82. 82 anon said at 3:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    straight garbage.

  83. 83 xeynon said at 3:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They are, and opposing teams have figured out that Schwartz’s scheme constantly putting them in single coverage makes that situation worse.

  84. 84 Mitchell said at 3:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Need cbs more than WR at this point…

  85. 85 xeynon said at 3:29 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I think they need both equally.

  86. 86 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Maybe today’s the day Wentz gets his comeback

  87. 87 truehaynes said at 3:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Nope

  88. 88 xeynon said at 3:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Worst part of this is that sucking down the stretch doesn’t help our draft position – it just gives the Browns a higher first round pick to blow.

  89. 89 scratcherk said at 3:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    helps in every other round

  90. 90 John Galt said at 3:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Vikes are losing to the jags currently

  91. 91 xeynon said at 3:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hey, we found another thing Nelson Agholor sucks at! I didn’t think it was possible.

  92. 92 scratcherk said at 3:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    MIN losing tho

  93. 93 Mitchell said at 3:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Things an Eagles fan can look forward for the rest of the season: Vikings losses. Turner catches

  94. 94 scratcherk said at 3:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    zombie apocalypse

  95. 95 SteveH said at 3:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I stepped out to get some pizza, nice to see we blew a field goal and gave up a TD drive.

  96. 96 scratcherk said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    so its your fault….

  97. 97 SteveH said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    *sobs uncontrollably*

  98. 98 anon said at 3:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    blew a kick off return too

  99. 99 Mitchell said at 3:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    What kind?

  100. 100 John Galt said at 3:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    A punt snap will be interesting

  101. 101 truehaynes said at 3:17 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Lol

  102. 102 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:17 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    uh oh

  103. 103 xeynon said at 3:17 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m sick of that shotgun draw play.

  104. 104 scratcherk said at 3:18 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    washington wrist hunting.

  105. 105 John Galt said at 3:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Not his wrist. It’s his neck, probably a stinger down his arm

  106. 106 Mitchell said at 3:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I dont live in the Penn area but have seen commercials for Rutters. Any good?

  107. 107 Crus57 said at 3:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    So their dude just got a 15yd penalty for taking out our only remaining long snapper. GG rules.

  108. 108 scratcherk said at 3:21 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    love our CBs.

  109. 109 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:21 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Thats a start

  110. 110 xeynon said at 3:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Lol @ Kirk Cousins’ “franchise QB” impersonation.

  111. 111 Mitchell said at 3:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hes playing pretty well overall.

  112. 112 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Throwing at Josh Norman. Not smart.

  113. 113 Crus57 said at 3:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    good thing we were going for 2 anyway I guess

  114. 114 shah8 said at 3:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    The slowest out throw, ever…

  115. 115 xeynon said at 3:24 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He has to work on his mechanics this offseason for sure.

  116. 116 anon said at 3:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    YEah bitch!

  117. 117 xeynon said at 3:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Norman made contact early.

  118. 118 scratcherk said at 3:24 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    always

  119. 119 Mitchell said at 3:24 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I was wondering that too. Pretty close play IMO

  120. 120 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 3:24 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Meh. It was a good play

  121. 121 scratcherk said at 3:25 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    someone teach kelce how to long snap now

  122. 122 truehaynes said at 3:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    And make it his permanent position

  123. 123 xeynon said at 3:25 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    A little sick of watching our defense make Rob Kelley look like Earl Campbell.

  124. 124 anon said at 3:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    it’s the OL

  125. 125 xeynon said at 3:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Four broken tackles on every run is due to the OL?

  126. 126 scratcherk said at 3:26 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    not sure thats in.

  127. 127 scratcherk said at 3:26 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    didnt get the second foot down

  128. 128 scratcherk said at 3:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    DEF NOT CATCH

  129. 129 scratcherk said at 3:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    take it to the bank

  130. 130 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Doug’s challenge losing streak is going to come to end.

  131. 131 xeynon said at 3:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That was not a catch.

  132. 132 Crus57 said at 3:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    then by the law of inverse refereeing decisions, this will stand

  133. 133 scratcherk said at 3:29 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    done with challenges tho sigh

  134. 134 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:29 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wow
    We won one

  135. 135 scratcherk said at 3:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    eject that mofo

  136. 136 MaybePederson said at 3:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    fuck the redskins

  137. 137 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I love that Jason Peters is out there ready to kill someone

  138. 138 scratcherk said at 3:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    get that guy the fuck out of here.

  139. 139 scratcherk said at 3:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    thats a second personal foul, he should be gone

  140. 140 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Kill Him

  141. 141 John Galt said at 3:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ertz trying to look hard is hilarious though

  142. 142 xeynon said at 3:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Take the next shot they have at Cousins. That’ll teach them.

  143. 143 MaybePederson said at 3:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    sproles still down…shit

  144. 144 scratcherk said at 3:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    he should be fucking ejected

  145. 145 Crus57 said at 3:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    abso fucking lutely. second PF for hits to the head

  146. 146 MaybePederson said at 3:40 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    he’ll be recieving a healthy fine

  147. 147 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Way to go Kelce

  148. 148 scratcherk said at 3:35 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    lets go guys, show some heart.

  149. 149 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:35 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wentz. Gotta learn to just chuck it away, kid.

  150. 150 anon said at 3:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    So mobile, but we’re not good at gettign open in a scramble apparently. Need to watch some seahawks video tape. I guess having Bradford here you’re not used to extending plays.

  151. 151 scratcherk said at 3:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    entz with some gusto today

  152. 152 scratcherk said at 3:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    burton running backwards trying to get his block…

  153. 153 scratcherk said at 3:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    expected wentz to get destroyed.

  154. 154 xeynon said at 3:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    The combination of discontinuity on the OL and bad receiver play has just killed our offense.

  155. 155 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:39 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    QB sneak.

  156. 156 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:39 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Gotta get this

  157. 157 scratcherk said at 3:39 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    qb sneak

  158. 158 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:40 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Cmon guys

  159. 159 ConcussedFB said at 3:41 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Mike Bartrum is only 46.

  160. 160 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:41 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    F it. Wentz can long snap.

  161. 161 anon said at 3:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    we looking at field goal, my stream just went to shit

  162. 162 MaybePederson said at 3:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    sports psycology ftw

  163. 163 Mitchell said at 3:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Agholor looking much better tpday

  164. 164 anon said at 3:43 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    so close

  165. 165 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:43 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Fipp sez he will do it

  166. 166 MaybePederson said at 3:43 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    dear lord baby jesus…

  167. 167 Chris Lindeman said at 3:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Why can’t Kelce do it?

  168. 168 Sean Stott said at 3:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I was wondering same

  169. 169 Chris Lindeman said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Seems like a no brained to me. What am I missing here?!

  170. 170 Crus57 said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    a long snap has to spin a certain way, apparently

  171. 171 Chris Lindeman said at 3:49 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    So wouldn’t Kelce be better at it than Burton? The announcers aren’t even suggesting it. Wtf?!

  172. 172 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wow wow wow

  173. 173 scratcherk said at 3:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    TREY FTW

  174. 174 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Burton!!! Donnie JOnes!!!

  175. 175 MaybePederson said at 3:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Have never gotten more excited about a FG in my life

  176. 176 Crus57 said at 3:48 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Mark Simoneau? Akers on one leg?

  177. 177 scratcherk said at 3:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    can we have open tryouts for CB too? seems to work

  178. 178 A_T_G said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Screw that, just let Burton do it.

  179. 179 scratcherk said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    lol that burton didnt move or try to block after the snap, just watched it the entire time.

  180. 180 A_T_G said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He is lucky he didn’t get crushed.

  181. 181 Nu_B said at 3:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    this game man

  182. 182 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:48 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Let’s go Schwartz. Time to show up.

  183. 183 scratcherk said at 3:49 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    nice hit

  184. 184 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:50 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Look at our DBs making plays today.

  185. 185 scratcherk said at 3:50 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    our stupid dbs not diving on it.

  186. 186 A_T_G said at 3:50 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    So the punt returner, kick returner, and long snapper are all out?

    And our special teams are still a strength?

  187. 187 xeynon said at 3:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Think this might be overturned. That looked like a “football move” to me.

  188. 188 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Agreed, but they owe us one. No catch.

  189. 189 John Galt said at 3:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Stands. They don’t overturn judgment calls very often

  190. 190 A_T_G said at 3:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    In slow motion. I gotta think it would stand if our guy caught it.

  191. 191 FairOaks said at 3:54 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I don’t think “football move” is in the guidelines anymore — something like forward progression. That one is definitely arguable. I would have expected “call stands” — the ref said “number of steps” but I thought the number was closer to 1 — but natch that goes against us.

  192. 192 A_T_G said at 3:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Well, 1 is a number…

  193. 193 Chris Lindeman said at 3:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Catch. Fumble. Recovered.

  194. 194 John Galt said at 3:53 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ridiculous

  195. 195 Mitchell said at 3:53 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ive seen this game before.

  196. 196 kajomo said at 3:54 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I would love to know how Dez’a catch in the playoffs is incomplete but that is a catch

  197. 197 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Time for a pick

  198. 198 scratcherk said at 3:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    hickssss

  199. 199 scratcherk said at 3:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    go for the FG!!!

  200. 200 scratcherk said at 3:57 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    how the FUCK did they get a TO

  201. 201 scratcherk said at 3:57 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    cllocks at DOUBLE FUCKING ZERO

  202. 202 John Galt said at 3:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Game over

  203. 203 Checkdown Charlie said at 3:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Dam it

  204. 204 scratcherk said at 3:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    need a sack

  205. 205 Mitchell said at 3:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    This feels exaxtly like the game from last year

  206. 206 anon said at 4:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Another gruelling loss. Are we a good team? Without a pick 6 we’re looking at 15-21 against a bad defense.

  207. 207 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I thought we would get blown up

  208. 208 A_T_G said at 4:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Without the pick six.

    You could say without… and list a few things that would had us winning too.

  209. 209 anon said at 4:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    without the end zone pick? We can net the run back and the pick 6 i guess.

  210. 210 A_T_G said at 4:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Should have put Burton on Garçon.

  211. 211 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Well, that’s one way to save time on the clock.

  212. 212 scratcherk said at 4:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    probably the best thing that could have happened.

  213. 213 Aaron said at 4:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    urlacherzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  214. 214 truehaynes said at 4:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I prefer that

  215. 215 scratcherk said at 4:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    rather have that then bleed the clock out

  216. 216 scratcherk said at 4:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    ok wentz FTW

  217. 217 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    OK. Carson. Here’s your opportunity to be a hero.

  218. 218 xeynon said at 4:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Okay Wentz… crunch time. Let’s see what you got.

  219. 219 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    His time to shine

  220. 220 A_T_G said at 4:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That is better than bleeding the clock and kicking the FG.

  221. 221 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Move!!!

  222. 222 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    If he plays up on Ags, Ags has to get behind him.

  223. 223 scratcherk said at 4:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    mathews our only RB right now right?

  224. 224 John Galt said at 4:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yep. Barner inactive

  225. 225 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Where’s Smallwood?

  226. 226 scratcherk said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    injured

  227. 227 scratcherk said at 4:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    TINE OUT

  228. 228 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Broken fork

  229. 229 scratcherk said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    glad they didnt get cute with the TO

  230. 230 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Bad week to give up huffing glue

  231. 231 jmh said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    11 to 81

  232. 232 scratcherk said at 4:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    lets see that same play to matthews that he dropped the first time

  233. 233 scratcherk said at 4:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    * wentz missed

  234. 234 John Galt said at 4:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That was holding on wis

  235. 235 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    crap

  236. 236 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Of course

  237. 237 scratcherk said at 4:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    well thats that.

  238. 238 scratcherk said at 4:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    didnt even touch kerrigan.

  239. 239 Mitchell said at 4:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Holy shit…… Sorry Carson, your line sucks a fatty.

  240. 240 The original AG said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Lots of injuries to the right side of the line. Brooks was out, then Barbre got hurt.

  241. 241 Mitchell said at 4:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Story of the season. Hardly any running game again today….

  242. 242 The original AG said at 4:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m mad Pederson kept running roll-outs to that side. But this is a lost season, so I stopped caring.

  243. 243 Mitchell said at 4:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Same here. Need more good players.

  244. 244 anon said at 4:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    How do you not run a play away from Kerrigan or screen to that side or have an extra blocker – that’s thier only pass rusher and he’s up against a nobody.

  245. 245 scratcherk said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    thanks a lot lane.

  246. 246 Julescat said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    when’s he due back?

  247. 247 Crus57 said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    19th

  248. 248 xeynon said at 4:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Will be interesting to see if they look significantly better with him back on the field in the last two games of the year. We need him to go back home to Texas and not do anything stupid this offseason.

  249. 249 anon said at 5:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    be interesting to see if this team doesn’t rollover next week. Demoralizing loss

  250. 250 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They played a lot better today. Not well enough, but they didn’t totally suck like the last few weeks.

  251. 251 Julescat said at 4:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    it was only the Deadskins though

  252. 252 xeynon said at 4:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They might end up as a playoff team. I’m not blown away by them, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not like we lost to one of the worst teams in the NFL.

  253. 253 Checkdown Charlie said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They showed more today than I thought they would

  254. 254 shah8 said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I tuned back in just to see that fumble…

    *sigh*

  255. 255 BobSmith77 said at 4:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I know Smallwood went out with an injury but 46 pass attempts in this game for Wentz. Too many especially with only 15 carries for Mathews.

  256. 256 Corry said at 4:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I blame Lane Johnson for everything.

  257. 257 xeynon said at 4:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He has to go high on the list of goats for the season. The offensive line play significantly deteriorated after he went out and that caused the rest of the offense to regress as well.

  258. 258 Patrick said at 4:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Outside of QB, we literally cannot go wrong if drafting an offense position with the Vikings pick.

  259. 259 scratcherk said at 4:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    dont underestimate us.

  260. 260 The original AG said at 4:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    We need CB or OL I think as top 2. I used to think WR, but I think that’s 3rd worse over these last few weeks.

  261. 261 xeynon said at 4:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Johnson coming back and Vaitai and Seumalo maturing should hopefully shore up the OL a bit. CB and WR are just pure trash with the only guys we have on the roster who might be a part of the future (Matthews and Mills) ideally being #2 or #3 types rather than starters. Also, I love drafting OL but this is not a strong class, whereas there are a lot of good CB and WR prospects. Also some terrific RBs – if somebody like McCaffrey or Fournette is on the board I’d be hard-pressed to pass on him for a mediocre OL.

  262. 262 shah8 said at 4:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    cudda had both Tunsil and Joe Webb, you know…

  263. 263 xeynon said at 4:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hahahah I know you’re joking but I’m fine with Wentz. He is not perfect, he still has things to learn and has mechanical flaws to work on – he drops the ball too low and his windup is too long – but he has all the talent in the world. I can see now why they originally planned to sit him this season but I think trading up to get him was the right move. I LOVED Tunsil as a prospect but a guy who’s a potential top 5 QB is more valuable even than a potential top 5 LT.

  264. 264 D3FB said at 5:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Team is really high on Gordon.

  265. 265 anon said at 4:15 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    What a depressing loss – you can see it on the player’s faces. Going to be a long rest of the season. Wentz….dissapointing we haven’t seen this team comeback in the 4 quarter in a LONG time.

  266. 266 Mitchell said at 4:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hard to get one when Rbs drop passes and your butthole gets .2 s3conds after the snap.

  267. 267 SteveH said at 4:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Man… That was shit effort by Tobin, I mean at least delay Kerrigan a beat so Wentz can get the ball out.

  268. 268 xeynon said at 4:26 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Tobin is not a good player. There’s a reason he went undrafted and is a career backup. He wouldn’t even have been active if Johnson hadn’t gotten suspended and Vaitai gotten hurt. I can’t be too hard on a 3rd string fringe roster player for playing like a 3rd string fringe roster player.

  269. 269 SteveH said at 4:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yeah but, cmon man, you can at least get a hand on the guy. At least give us a chance to throw the ball away.

  270. 270 Fufina said at 4:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Look he is not an ambi-turner man. He can turn left no problem at all and he is a decent player – but damn it he just cannot turn right.

  271. 271 xeynon said at 4:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ehhh. I think he’s a below average LT/LG and a far below average RT. Ideally he’s never on the field during a regular season game.

  272. 272 Fufina said at 4:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    /sigh post was a joke… too few people have seen zoolander

  273. 273 xeynon said at 4:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yeah that’s one I missed. And it’s not because I don’t love early to mid oughts Ben Stiller movies, Dodgeball, Anchorman, Tropic Thunder, and Meet the Parents were all right up my alley.

  274. 274 Fufina said at 5:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Its a great really stupid movie if that makes sense. whole thing is nonsensical and utterly over the top but you laugh at the movie as well as with the movie. Is a good film to watch when you are brain dead tired but want a bit of a pick me up.

  275. 275 BobSmith77 said at 4:17 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    No complaints today. This team came out from the outset, played hard, and competed to the end of the game. That is about all you can ask right now.

    Wentz had some accuracy issues again today but had a nice bounce back too. I had Reid deja vu though with too many passing attempts in a game this close.

  276. 276 meteorologist said at 4:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I don’t care about the pass attempts this game. Everything else I agree with

  277. 277 SteveH said at 4:17 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Also of note: Ryan Mathews was awful in pass pro a couple times today.

  278. 278 anon said at 4:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    that’s why we have sproles

  279. 279 Julescat said at 4:18 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    this is a bad team!

    I think the players have pretty much quit on the season.

  280. 280 BobSmith77 said at 4:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Bad – yes. Quit – Not today. This is a team with its share of wholes and had a few more offensive injuries today.

  281. 281 sonofdman said at 4:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It is absurd to say that the players quit. They fought hard this entire game and seemed very passionate. This is not a good team, but the players did not quit today.

  282. 282 SteveH said at 4:20 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hah, the Cardinals just did a stupid, called timeout with 2:04 before a punt. Clock stops on a punt anyhow ya stupids.

  283. 283 BobSmith77 said at 4:21 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    McKelvin is the closest living representation to an Eagles’ CB I have seen to Izell ‘Toast’ Jenkins.

    He LOVES to jump on routes and guess. Every know and then this season he comes up big or with a nice play like today but man he gets beat like a drum an awful lot too.

    If he has given up the most passing play for 20+ yards this season or in the Top 3, I would be pretty surprised

  284. 284 SteveH said at 4:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hard to hate on that loss with the mash unit that was out there. I do hate that the Vikings didn’t choke against the Jaguars, that would have been awesome.

  285. 285 SteveH said at 4:25 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Props to Trey Burton today. *cracks a beer*

  286. 286 anon said at 4:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    hope it’s malt liquor need something strong.

  287. 287 BobSmith77 said at 4:25 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Pederson needs to come out firing a bit in the press conference and not let the Philly media turn in him into a punching bag this week. Team played pretty well all things considered and bounced back from last week’s debacle even if they lost.

    Of course, some fans booed at times today and the media will be all over the Eagles. It is 100% complete BS that this team appreciates effort too if the team is losing. Their bitch and complain especially Eagles’ fans

  288. 288 SteveH said at 4:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Go home Bob, you’re drunk.

  289. 289 BobSmith77 said at 4:30 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They booed today including in the 4th qtr after the play where Kerrigan sacked and stripped Wentz.

    Philly is very much a ‘what have you done for me lately’ city in sports, politics, and even business.

  290. 290 anon said at 4:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    that’s nothing new. I can understand the booing, what a let down.

  291. 291 SteveH said at 4:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I was referring more to the pretty much incomprehensible sentence structure towards the end there.

  292. 292 BobSmith77 said at 4:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Corrected and no drinking.

  293. 293 SteveH said at 4:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that *sips beer*.

  294. 294 anon said at 4:34 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    The upside of being a shitty team is getting draft picks, we need them.

    Miami going to playoffs? can’t believe it.

  295. 295 jshort said at 4:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    yea. Who gets our #1?

  296. 296 SteveH said at 4:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Cleveland.

  297. 297 D3FB said at 4:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Our 2 could be top 40.

  298. 298 xeynon said at 5:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    This is a fair point. I know you’re a big draftnik – I only loosely follow college football so my grasp on these things is tenuous. I know it’s a good draft for CBs and RBs and bad for OL – any read on how things shake out between mid-first and mid-second in terms of talent distribution? Is this one of those years where there’s not really a dropoff between prospect #20 and prospect #50?

  299. 299 Fufina said at 5:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hard to tell at this point with juniors not declared yet… but i think it is a great RB and defensive draft, really deep at CB and LB.

  300. 300 D3FB said at 5:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I think they can get a CB who will be a pretty good starter by year two and a WR who brings a dynamic element to the offense with the first two picks.

    There should also be options at pass rusher especially early.

    RB you can wait until 3rd-4th round and still get a really good back.

    Probably to early to have a feel for just how the board falls but there will be a impact player at a position of need when we pick in the second.

  301. 301 xeynon said at 5:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Good news. This might be a year when the Eagles needs and the talent pool actually line up for once. If we draft a CB and a WR with our top two picks (in some order) I’ll be very happy.

    I think we also need a RB though it’s not as high of a priority and the only way I’d take one in the first round is if a no-doubt stud was available and the options at other positions were all clearly inferior players. Unless it’s a guy like Zeke RBs are pretty fungible.

  302. 302 sonofdman said at 4:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    The upside to losing this game, is that is makes it more likely that Minnesota will miss the playoffs, which gives us a higher #1 pick.

  303. 303 BobSmith77 said at 4:36 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Jackson continues to play well vs Eagles including doing most of his damage via big plays.

    5 games – 20 rec, 440 yards, 2 TDs including today

  304. 304 DarthBanner said at 4:37 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Whelp. Dougy Simpleton’s offense only came up with 13 points on 4 1st half trips in the red zone. Let a terrible defense own them today. But its what I’ve come to expect from Doug.

  305. 305 xeynon said at 4:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He was coaching a team with a mishmash of backup OL playing out of position and which has very little skill position talent to begin with and lost its best offensive weapon in the 2nd half. They still moved the ball fine.

    I realize one note criticism of Pederson is your thing and some weeks you can at least make an argument for holding him at fault. This is not one of those weeks.

  306. 306 DarthBanner said at 4:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Does he call the plays? Is he the architect of the offense? How many offensive points did they score? The responsibility for continued offensive failure lies with him.

  307. 307 SteveH said at 4:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I mean he didn’t force Wentz to throw that interception. So on the other 3 trips we scored 13. That’s not awful.

  308. 308 xeynon said at 4:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I keep telling you this, and you keep refusing to listen. When you have a shitty offensive line that can’t hold up against a decent pass rush and can’t consistently open holes in the running game, a shitty receiving corps that almost never makes contested catches and leads the league in drops, and a shitty RB corps that fumbles too much, blows blitz pickup assignments, drops screen passes, and rarely or never breaks off big runs, and all of these units are penalized at a near league-leading clip, it’s hard to be a playcalling genius. Pederson’s playcalling this season hasn’t been perfect – he’s made some really questionable decisions like that screen pass against Dallas that lost 6 yards. But he’s also made some excellent calls, and overall I consider playcalling to be far, far down on the list of reasons why this offense has struggled.

  309. 309 DarthBanner said at 4:54 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Good coaches coach their players up. Doug coaches them down.

    Not as shitty as he usually is is still shitty.

  310. 310 xeynon said at 4:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Pederson HAS coached them up. Statistically they are a middle-of-the-pack offense. Talentwise they are bottom 5.

  311. 311 Jernst said at 4:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Why do you waste your time responding to this troll?

  312. 312 DarthBanner said at 4:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Just stating my opinion. I wish he was better. He isn’t, and thats going to impact the franchise negatively for a few years.

  313. 313 xeynon said at 4:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Good question.

  314. 314 Fufina said at 4:57 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Absolutely agree – I think his good game plans have exceeded his bad ones, and that is pretty impressive with this set of offensive skill position players and a mauled offensive line. He is a rookie play caller and generally i think he has done a good job – is there room for improvement? absolutely, but it is not a long term concern for me at this point.

  315. 315 anon said at 5:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Vikings won today

  316. 316 Kohlhaas said at 4:48 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    There was plenty to criticize Doug for. He has not shown to be a good play caller so far. Look at the many 3rd and shorts today.

  317. 317 BobSmith77 said at 4:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Some questionable calls there although today is a tough day to harp on Pederson’s play calling.

    I still thought there was only 2 games this year where his overall offensive play-calling was really bad – first Giants game and first Skins game.

    First Giants’ game was one of the worst coached games by an Eagles team I can remember in recent memory. Questionable decision after questionable decision including being hyper aggressive to the point of outright foolishness.

    The bigger issue should Pederson been calling the plays this year from the outset – I would argue ‘no’ and if they should delegate that to Reich next year – I would argue ‘yes’ although less definite on that.

  318. 318 Fufina said at 4:53 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Its hard to be creative when you need to leave extra people in to block. Most pass downs we have got 6 or 7 in blocking at least initially (RB or TE may leak out for a check down if there is no one for them to pick up).

    That means you are leaving 3 or 4 receivers (WR’s and TE’s) trying to get open against 6-7 defenders – and with our lack of talent at outside WR and a rookie QB there really is only so much you can do.

    Offence was innovative and creative early in the year when they were happy leaving Johnson/Peters 1v1 on the outside all game, flooded zones with multiple routes and allowed Wentz to execute simple reads depending on presnap defensive formation.

  319. 319 BobSmith77 said at 4:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Eagles weren’t that bad coming into today – 19th in red zone efficiency at 53.6%.

    That has been an issue for a long, long time here though and the only year they were really dynamic in the red zone was the SB year in 2004 – 4th (62.3%). TO, TO, TO.

    Otherwise they tended to be middle to bottom third-tier Reid’s entire tenure here and weren’t great including any single year with Kelly either (13th in ’13, 25th in ’14, 15th in ’15)

  320. 320 xeynon said at 4:54 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I think slightly below average red zone efficiency is actually an achievement given how terrible the talent on this team outside of Wentz (who is a rookie) is. They don’t have a single skill position guy who you’d really fear in the red zone as an opposing defensive coach and their line has been below average due to injuries and suspensions.

  321. 321 BobSmith77 said at 4:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Agreed especially if you considering the weapons he has or doesn’t have. There isn’t a single one in the red zone teams have to worry about.

    I thought it was funny 2 weeks ago how Ertz was irritated about how overall production especially in the red zone since he arrived here. He basically gave a passive aggressive response including about how the offensive staff haven’t called more plays for him in the red zone.

    Maybe it is because inside the 10 they can stick a LB on you and don’t have to worry about either out muscling or blowing the guy area.

    I do think red zone efficiency is a real issue for Reid’s playing calling though. During his tenure here they averaged 21st or 22nd in red zone efficiency. Basically could move the ball well between the 20s but had their share of issues otherwise.

    It has been gone down every single year since Reid arrived in KC and this year they are a pitiful 28th in red zone efficiency.

  322. 322 xeynon said at 5:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I think talent is the real issue in the red zone for AR’s teams. The McNabb Eagles never had a top receiver outside the one year with TO (when they were good in the RZ). Guys like DeSean, Kevin Curtis, and Maclin put up numbers, but none of them was the kind of guy who could outjump two defenders to make a contested TD catch, which is what you need to excel. His KC teams haven’t had that kind of talent either. Fair to put that on him for not prioritizing it, but I think the issue is more Reid-the-GM than Reid-the-coach.

  323. 323 BobSmith77 said at 5:08 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I started reading your comment and I was thinking ‘well Reid had GM responsibilities for most of his tenure here and in KC too.’

    I tend to agree and still really appreciate Reid the coach even with all of his time management foibles & tendency to get pass happy. Borderline HOF coach.

    Reid the GM is a lot less impressive who has a pretty mixed track record in the draft and FA. Probably average/slightly above but certainly has hindered Reid the coach too.

  324. 324 xeynon said at 5:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Agreed on both points.

  325. 325 Julescat said at 5:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    are we in reality one year away from Doug being fired?

    this group of individuals are pretty bad together. I foresee our record being similar or worse next year. We have no running game, receivers and a bad O line. The defense seems pretty bad too.

  326. 326 BobSmith77 said at 5:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    No not unless next year turns into an utter disaster and there are signs this team has rolled over on him & players are coming to Lurie to complain again.

    Today was an important game to see how the players would respond. If they had gotten out blown out again while having their effort questioned, that would have been a very bad sign for Pederson.

  327. 327 Dave said at 4:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    After today’s game, it’s apparent Wentz has a very high ceiling. As much as we need three starting CBs (including a nickel) and WR help, I’m all for drafting and or using free agency on stud lineman. I’d rather give Wentz all day to throw to our current WRs and TE’s than the constant pressure and hits he endured today.

    BTW, does anyone know what’s up with Brooks? I hope he does’t have a more serious illness as this is his 2nd missed game in 3 weeks.

  328. 328 D3FB said at 4:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Apparently it’s an ulcer’s issue dating back to his time in Houston.

  329. 329 Dave said at 5:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That’s tough, but treatable. As long as it’s not ulcerative colitis.

  330. 330 anon said at 5:27 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    can understand an unlcer playing for this team

  331. 331 Media Mike said at 5:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I wonder if anybody has invented any medicines to deal with ulcer symptoms?

  332. 332 ChoTime said at 5:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I was out with family. What did he do to give you that impression?

  333. 333 Dave said at 5:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    He played with poise and had good accuracy. He broke out of the pocket numerous times to avoid the rush and threw several completions under pressure. He was under constant pressure again and got sacked 4 times and hit 10 times. Several of his incompletions were due to his lack of throwing time.

    He had a incomplete pass to Mathews that should have been reviewed by Doug as it was a touchdown. 2 plays later he threw an int. Honestly, he just passes eyeball test with ease.

  334. 334 Fufina said at 5:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I have somewhat evolved my plans for draft/free agency having looked a little at both classes. Go find a band aid weapon at WR, go out and target CB hard in the draft and pick up a RB.

    Peters false starts suck but he has been a solid to good starter all year and worth bringing back and Johnson would be an idiot to ever put another artificial substance in his body that has not been lab tested by him – another ban would cost him upwards of $20mil . Inside i think we have been better than expected – Seumalo/Vaitai are projects but seem to be interesting long term but Barbre/Brooks have been good guard pair this year. Pick up another vet swing man cheap, draft a centre to develop mid to late.

    Such a talented CB class i would hit it 2 times in the 1st 4 rounds, grab a RB who is going to be BPA, and maybe a LB as well. People are going to obsess over WR in the draft but class is /meh, and getting rookie WR production is rare. Find a vet to improve the group and see if 2017 allows you to address the position long term with free agency or draft.

  335. 335 Dave said at 5:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    We need several cornerbacks and I’d rather break in a couple of rookies with potential next year than roll the dice on our current crop or a high priced free agent.

    That being said, I definitely see the need to upgrade the line as well.

  336. 336 xeynon said at 5:16 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Draft-wise this is a weak OL class (most mocks I’ve seen don’t have anybody going until late in the first round) and Johnson will be back next year. I think we can squeeze another year out of Peters if they don’t think Vaitai can make the leap to solid starter, if they do flip Johnson to LT and play Big V at RT. Barbre-Kelce-Brooks aren’t setting the world on fire as an interior trio but you could do worse. Seumalo might also be ready to start next year. Don’t think OL should be the top draft priority.

  337. 337 Fufina said at 5:20 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Olinemen tend to rise once teams start leaking to media to move people up and some of the more ‘pro’ draftniks start watching film. College draftniks tend to focus on playmakers early in the process since they jump off the film but generally the unless they are monster road graders its hard to jump off the tape as an interior lineman.

  338. 338 xeynon said at 5:40 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yeah but I remember reading about guys like Tunsil and Stanley being surefire top 10 picks a lot around this time last year. There is nobody generating that kind of buzz this year.

  339. 339 Dave said at 5:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Dolphins believe QB Ryan Tannehill tore his ACL. Tough break for a team on the brink of making the playoffs.

  340. 340 kajomo said at 5:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    We need to cut one of veteran RBs this offseason. Which one do you cut. Sproles is the better player, but amatthews seems to make this offense work better

  341. 341 D3FB said at 5:06 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I think there’s very little chance Mathews is back.

    Sproles should be gone, but unless he ask for a trade to a contender will be back.

  342. 342 Dave said at 5:12 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Sproles and Mathews are each due $4M next year. Mathews injury history makes him the easy cut.

  343. 343 BobSmith77 said at 5:10 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I tend to think both are gone although they likely have more interest in bringing back Sproles because of his utility and being a dynamic playmaker at times.

    Stunned if they bring back Mathews or if he is a starting RB next year in the league too. He really should be a backup somewhere next year.

  344. 344 xeynon said at 5:13 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Mathews is highly paid, injury prone, and not even that good. I don’t see any way he’s back.

    Sproles isn’t what he once has but still has utility as a pass catcher and special teams player.

  345. 345 Fufina said at 5:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Finding someone to play 1st/2nd down in this draft is not going to be a problem. Guys that you trust on 3rd down are harder to find as rookies. Keep sproles and move on from mathews.

  346. 346 xeynon said at 5:19 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I love what I’ve seen of Fournette (looks like Elliott 2.0) and McCaffrey (could be Edgerrin James to Wentz’s Manning). But I don’t know that I would spend a first round pick on either with so many other needs and it being a deep RB class.

  347. 347 Fufina said at 5:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Genuinely think this will be a BPA draft. If Fournette is there (for example) then go grab him. If we go BPA we will pick up a CB and RB at so points in the first 4 rounds since those classes are just so deep.

  348. 348 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:24 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Wouldn’t hate grabbing 2 CBs within our first 4 picks

  349. 349 xeynon said at 6:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Nor would I. I think we definitely have to come away with at least one WR and and at least one CB in the primo rounds of this draft but for the most part it should be BPA.

  350. 350 Jernst said at 7:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Although it wouldn’t necessarily be my ideal draft, I wouldn’t be angry if we ended up taking 4 CBs with our first 4 picks…

  351. 351 Media Mike said at 5:32 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Mathews can go. Look at the salary and lack of reliable availability.

  352. 352 A_T_G said at 6:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I was sure of that too… until you look at the difference with and without him. Maybe we are underestimating him.

  353. 353 GermanEagle said at 5:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Imagine Wentz throwing to DeSean.

  354. 354 Jernst said at 5:31 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m having a hard enough time imagining an Eagles WR dragging his toes during a sideline catch…making actually impressive plays just seems unbelievable

  355. 355 GermanEagle said at 5:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    And besides his speed what Eagles somehow seem to forget: DeSean catches everything coming his way. Just like what he did in his last season in Philly.

  356. 356 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I blame the front office

  357. 357 xeynon said at 5:45 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It was pretty clearly Chip Kelly’s decision to dump him. Roseman gave him a contract extension before he was cut and the rest of the current FO wasn’t here when it happened.

  358. 358 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    They are all too blame. Chip, Howie and Lurie

  359. 359 xeynon said at 5:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Let’s not get carried away. He’s a good player and far better than anybody on the Eagles’ roster. But he’s not Dez Bryant/Julio Jones/Antonio Brown good. He’s a top 20 NFL WR which I’d certainly take but that’s all.

  360. 360 anon said at 5:47 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    best deep ball WR in the history of the NFL.

  361. 361 xeynon said at 5:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Uhhhh, no. He’s not even the best deep ball WR in the league right now. He’s definitely not the best in NFL history. Randy Moss, James Lofton, Paul Warfield, Bob Hayes, Lynn Swann, Don Maynard are just some of the guys I think you’d have to rank ahead of him. I don’t know that I’d even rank him as the best Eagles deep ball receiver of my lifetime (I’d put Mike Quick ahead of him).

  362. 362 Media Mike said at 5:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    scratch Swann off of that list…………good otherwise.

  363. 363 Jernst said at 7:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Statistically he’s definitely one of the best deep threat in the league. He’s far from being considered one of the greatest WRs in NFL history or even in the league right now. But, with 152 20+ yard plays, 59 40+ yard plays and more 60 yard TDs than anyone in league history except Jerry Rice in less than 9 years in the league he’s certainly in the conversation for best deep threat in the NFL. Moss and Lofton are definitely ahead of DeSean. Moss had 226 20+ yard plays and 76 40+ yard plays…in 16 years though. Can’t find the stats on Lofton, but he put up prolific stats.

    However, I don’t think the argument for the other WRs you listed is so definitive.

    Warfield had more than 50 catches in a season just once in his career…as a rookie when he posted 52. As a starter he averaged 33 catches for 659 yards and 6.5 TDs.

    Bob Hayes averaged as a starter 39 catches per season for 792 yards and 7.5 TDs.

    Maynard as a starter: 45 catches for 844 yards and 6 TDs per season.

    Jackson: 55 catches, 980 yards and 5.5 TDs.

    He’s at least right there with those guys statistically if not considerably better.

  364. 364 xeynon said at 5:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    As I said in my reply to your first comment on this, depends on the $$$$. Jackson is a good NFL receiver and letting him go was clearly the first of several major personnel blunders on Kelly’s part, but.. he is a speed guy nearing 30. The track record indicates those guys tend to age like week-old milk.

  365. 365 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    2 years / $12 mil total

  366. 366 xeynon said at 5:41 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    If it’s not a huge signing bonus I’d do that.

  367. 367 anon said at 5:48 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    umm does it look like djax has slowed down at all?

  368. 368 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:51 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    People said that about Shady too

  369. 369 anon said at 5:52 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Yeah grass is always greener

  370. 370 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:55 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Even if Desean loses a step he’s still going to be pretty darn fast

  371. 371 xeynon said at 6:03 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Not yet. But as I said, he is nearing 30, and the vast majority of pure speed receivers who reach that age in the league don’t tend to sustain their performance. He is going to lose a step, and once he does he won’t be very valuable.

  372. 372 A_T_G said at 6:33 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I am not sure DJax has the concentration to play CB.

  373. 373 Media Mike said at 5:42 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Did anybody get into the lack of effort in pursuit by the D after Curry’s missed tackle on the Chris Thompson TD run? I can’t believe how lazy they were on that play.

  374. 374 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:44 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I didnt notice anything like that. Not saying it didnt happen

  375. 375 Media Mike said at 5:46 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Curry broke through and like zero guys attempted to make a tackle after that.

  376. 376 D3FB said at 6:28 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I don’t know if it was intentional but it was good. Once he had the first down the optimal outcome was for him to score. Otherwise they bleed the clock an have a chipshot to win.

    It also more just seemed like WASTEAM blocked it up well, once Curry missed they had the backside walled off.

  377. 377 Media Mike said at 5:53 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Also; am I out of line for being really upset at Ertz from lazily rounding off his route on the play where the endzone INT happened? It looked like the DB outworked Ertz to go get that ball.

  378. 378 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:58 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    It looked like a miscommunication… Ertz never even looked for the ball and Wentz throw it like he expected Ertz to cut in. Maybe Ertz was to slow to make his break or maybe Wentz rushed it.

  379. 379 Media Mike said at 6:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Could be. But it was bad.

  380. 380 anon said at 5:56 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    according to next gen stats djax the fastest player on the field today

  381. 381 Media Mike said at 5:57 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    According to Tampax’s stats Brooks was missing again.

  382. 382 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:59 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I thought his wife was having a baby? N/M Ulcer.

    That’s not a rub some dirt on it and play thing

  383. 383 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    That wasn’t communicated in a way I saw. I wasn’t even aware it was a possibility that he’d miss due to that.

  384. 384 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ulcer right? Cant really blame for being held out

  385. 385 Media Mike said at 6:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Don’t they make meds for that?

  386. 386 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:04 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Not for you to go play pro football. It can be very serious if its not taken care of.

  387. 387 Media Mike said at 6:06 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’d argue that could have been taken care of any time from January through August. I’m not trying to minimize the serious of an ulcer, but he was known to have them last year in Houston.

  388. 388 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:07 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Its really not always that simple. It could have just become an issue

  389. 389 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    The timing of it. along with every other unavailable player on this roster, is on my last nerve. The collective losses of 3 games that should have been wins is making every individual on the team a target.

  390. 390 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:11 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m not upset. I expected this team to lose out after Green Bay and CINN

  391. 391 Media Mike said at 6:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m livid at the manner in which games are being lost. Low effort, guys laying down on the job and not playing, bad play calling, “next man up” applying to every team but us, fucking Dallas and piece of shit Dak being 11-1, the fucking Giants in playoff position, not being able to beat Washington, Lane’s suspension due to hanging out with roid head MMA guys, the Vikings winning today, etc.

  392. 392 Jernst said at 7:23 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    yes

  393. 393 GermanEagle said at 7:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    No, HE was giving birth!!

  394. 394 anon said at 6:20 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    taylor gabriel is a nobody who is better than any offensive player on our team

  395. 395 anon said at 7:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I know some people having forgotten the economics of djax: from Kempski: ”
    Jackson was set to count for $12.5 million against the salary cap in 2014, which was the highest number on the team. According to OverTheCap.com, Jackson’s release will save the Eagles $6.5 million in salary cap space, and $6.25 million will be “dead money.”

    The wide receiver group in the upcoming draft is considered by some to be extraordinarily deep and talented.”

  396. 396 GermanEagle said at 7:14 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Ags!!!

  397. 397 Jernst said at 7:22 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    We saved $6.5M by cutting him and then turned around and spent more than that on Riley Cooper, Miles Austin and Nelson Agholar trying to replace him. Jackson’s contract got progressively more manageable after 2014 and offered flexibility in that there was no longer any guaranteed money left on the deal. Which meant it was a series of one year deals that got progressively less expensive every year.

    Had we decided to rework his deal, here is the type of deal he was looking for and willing to accept: DeSean Jackson signed a 4 year, $24,000,000 contract with the Washington Redskins, including a $5,000,000 signing bonus, $16,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $6,000,000. Which had average cap hits of $7.25M over 4 years.

    We could have easily fit Jackson’s contract into our cap structure if we had wanted to. Chip’s decision was purely about what he wanted in a player and had very little to do with financials. Paying Jackson $6.25M in 2014 to play for the Redskins while also paying Riley Cooper $5M to take his place on our team was not a prudent financial move no matter how hard people try to justify it.

  398. 398 anon said at 11:38 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    jackson wanted more money – at that time he wanted more than mike wallace.

  399. 399 anon said at 7:01 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    I’m also not sure why a team that can never get a cb doesn’t sign brent grimes – is his wife that bad?

  400. 400 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 7:05 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Shes that bad

  401. 401 anon said at 7:02 PM on December 11th, 2016:

    Hundley in vs SEA – who would have evr thought.