A Big Catch
Posted: March 9th, 2017 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 551 Comments »The bad news is that #17 will be the key receiver for the Eagles this year.
The good news is that Alshon Jeffery will be wearing that and not Nelson Agholor.
Nelson Agholor wants to stop being asked about WHAT ??? #FlyEaglesFly pic.twitter.com/ZtZaeJlKhe
— Mighty_Titan (@TitanicS) November 20, 2016
Alshon Jeffery is the most talented receiver to play in Philly since T.O. #Eagles pic.twitter.com/3NoE38jjGC
— Philly Nation (@Philly__Nation) March 10, 2017
You don’t have to be a football guru to notice a small difference in those videos. One guy can catch, one guy can’t.
Jeffery reportedly turned down a better offer from the Vikings to come to Philly to play for a 1-year, $14M deal. There is a good and bad side to that. The good news is that it shows Jeffery wanted to be here. He wanted to play for the Eagles and with Carson Wentz. The downside is that he is only here on a 1-year deal. Will he be worried about stats, as he tries to earn a mega-deal for the future? Will Jeffery have one eye on 2017 and one to the future?
There is no question that he is a major upgrade for the passing game. Wentz now has a workhorse receiver to get the ball to. Jeffery is one of those players who is so big and talented that even when he isn’t open, he is open. He can make tough, contested catches and that is something that has been missing from the Eagles for a while.
Howie Roseman didn’t stop with Jeffery.
#Eagles and WR Torrey Smith agree to terms on a three-year deal. #FlyEaglesFly pic.twitter.com/8suqdi4MYi
— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) March 9, 2017
Former top-10 pick G Chance Warmack reunites with college coach Jeff Stoutland on the #Eagles O-line.
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— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) March 9, 2017
#Eagles expected to retain Allen Barbre, per NFL sources. Allowed him to shop around for trade, but will bring back versatile OL at $2.25M.
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) March 9, 2017
So the Eagles added a pair of starting WRs, they signed a G with 48 career starts and they kept the starting LG from 2016 (who can also play LT or RT). The Eagles got better today.
They cut DE Connor Barwin. That move had to be made. Barwin struggled in 2016 and his release gave the team almost $8M in cap space. Barwin was an Eagle for 4 years, but it feels like he is one of those guys who will always be an Eagle because of how great he was in the community. Barwin embraced Philadelphia and did everything he could to help this city out. Kudos, sir and good luck elsewhere.
Barwin will go to a 3-4 team and get a chance to use his versatility. He isn’t a great pure pass rusher. He needs to be doing a variety of things to be at his best. He can be an effective player for a few more years, but definitely needs the right system to take advantage of his skill set.
Bennie Logan, the Eagles top free agent, was quiet today. No rumors. No visits. The whole DT group was quiet. Brandon Williams got a deal in the evening and that will set the market. Dontari Poe, Johnathan Hankins and Logan will follow. I don’t have a good feel for Logan’s future. The Eagles don’t want to lose a good DL, but the cost has to work.
No real updates on Jason Kelce and Mychal Kendricks. The Eagles are shopping them, but haven’t worked anything out yet. The first day of free agency can be tough for working out trades so this could go on for a bit. If the Eagles get desperate for cap room, they have to just cut the guys. They don’t want to do that since both players are talented and have some value. They just have to find a team that is willing to sacrifice a pick for them.
The Eagles won’t be doing much else unless they can free up more space. There are still some good CBs on the market. If they lose Logan, the Eagles might have to make a move at DT. They could add a WLB to replace Kendricks. Just don’t expect huge moves. They will go bargain hunting.
That’s what they did with Torrey Smith. He signed a 3-year deal, but it is really just for one year. The Eagles like him and his speed, but don’t want to commit to a player who has struggled in recent years. Smith will be playing with a good QB in a solid passing game for the first time in a few years. That should bring out the best in him. Obviously the key word there is “should”.
The Eagles didn’t commit long term money to the WR position so that can still be addressed early in the draft. The team doesn’t have to force anything. They can use pick 14 on just about anything aside from a QB, P or K. After that, all bets are off. The prevailing wisdom will have the Eagles going for a CB, but they can still take a WR if the right guy is on the board. The Eagles want to surround Wentz with talent.
One of the benefits to the moves made today is that the Eagles added good people. I did worry a bit about Terrelle Pryor and some baggage he might bring with him. I worried a little about Kenny Britt, who used to regularly get in trouble in NJ. Jeffery and Smith a very good guys who will help the Eagles, on and off the field.
There is plenty more work to be done, with trade talks and adding minor players to fill roster holes. For now, Howie Roseman and the Eagles front office are off to a good start. Wentz has legitimately talented receivers. The OL has more depth than in a long time. Lots of holes still to fix, but Howie and his staff certainly are off to a good start.
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More talented than Maclin or djax? I don’t know about that
Different than. Maclin would be incredible if he wasnt a bitch.
huh
Damn Self tacklin Maclin!!
Could be. Hard to tell right? Kind of splitting hairs at that point. He is kind of like Maclin in a much bigger body, right? Is he better than both because of the whole package he offers? Absolutely.
If I have to pick a team for 1 game, and my life depends on the outcome, I take Alshon in an instant and move on to harder decisions. Isn’t even close.
Now if you are talking long term…it gets kind of tough between Maclin and Alshon. Desean isn’t even a distant thought in that discussion.
yes
Today? Yes he is. Remember, both of those two have gotten older since they left Philly. Maclin really hasn’t lived up to the cost KC paid. For that matter neither has D-Jac – Tampa way over paid for him.
i was talking about prim djax and maclin, also it isnt maclins fault alex smith is his qb. if both were here im sure they would still be putting up numbers
Respectfully disagree that it could go on for a bit since Kendricks is due his bonus on Saturday
Pay it.
Alshon Jeffery is so good he once caught a touchdown pass from Matt Barkley
He’s the most interesting receiver in the world.
Meh, half the defensive backs in the league did that.
Half the defensive backs in the league also might better than DGB and Agholor
Worth a one year deal.
BOOM! What a huge upgrade to the WR corps! This offense should be at least middle of the pack this year.
Setting those sights high aren’t we? Haha
My statement kind of lost steam at the end there, didn’t it?
I’m going to miss calling them a WR corpse.
On second thought, no I won’t miss that.
Find a full-time RB and the top of the pack could be in sight.
Depends on OL’s health line though (especially Peters) and who that RB is.
Ran the ball fairly effectively last year but just had issues in the passing game especially later in the year.
My sense is that it will largely be somewhat of a wash with an offense that ends up say #10-15 in PPG (#16 last year), a decent uptick to become a mid-tier passing team, and a slight falloff in the run game.
Your prediction is probably about right. If Carson really grows into a fine starting qb, I’d hope for a top 10 Offense. If the Eagles make my wish come true and draft Cook, the sky is the limit.
Hopefully we get to keep Kelce and Kendricks unless there is a legit better option. Sure Kelce isn’t consistent. Sure Kendricks isn’t his 2013/14 self. They are still both damn solid starters. The Devil you know, as they say… can’t imagine moving on without having any damn Devil in place. People say Isaac can play center, but I wouldn’t mind having him competing for another spot.
Say what you want about the line. PFF rated them 8. Not elite, but not out of the realm of elite with improvement and luck in health/suspensions. Kelce started 16 games to get that 8.
Pryor and Jeffery both had issues. I didn’t really want either (of course I was excited by their talent). Jeffery on a 1 year prove it deal is AMAZING. It takes away all the fears I had for being caught up in him long term. I just hope the dude has finally realized he needs to care for his body (apparently that’s been the knock against him since college…didn’t eat right etc).
going to disagree because that’s what we do here. Kendricks and Kelce are better served as back ups and are not “damn solid starters”. Spot starts, sure. I thought the main reason to moving them was more cap space coupled with their declining abilities. If you look at the team and ask where does this team need upgrades – those two are near the top of the list with CB.
I agree that cap considerations are key. As of right now we must be well over the cap. The math will likely exchange Womack little money contract for Kelce’s: Seumalo to center, Barbre to remain at LG and Womack as back-up.I think that gains about 3 to 4M/year. I like Kelce (smart, athletic, gamer) though undersized, but I think he has to be traded or cut. I don’t think we save much by releasing Kendricks but Roseman will have to find cap space wherever he can.
I get that Kelce has his struggles at times, and I understand the cap implications, but I really can’t understand why people are so ready to just cut him or call him a “spot starter”. I mean, the guy made the freaking Pro Bowl this year. I’m not arguing he’s a top 5 center in this league, but to think you can just throw him out and will automatically see an upgrade at that position seems really optimistic to me. Especially considering the fact that he and Lane (#4 pick overall) are the only solid contributors to the O line that were drafted by this organization in recent memory.
I agree. It’s just not that easy to replace starters.
Only as good as your weak link…
I agree with the decline, and salary issues. I disagree that either is anywhere close to CB type of bad.
Im certainly not against getting rid of them for a better or equal option. I just dont see the option. Especially on the oline where one weal link ruins the chain.
Put it this way: who was our last WIL that was better than Kendricks?
I’d rather start Goode at lb and get rid of Kendricks. Goode is way cheaper and probably better. That position also barely plays. Get kel e out of town asap.
You can’t have Kelce, Seumalo, Warmack, and Barbre. It’s a waste of resources and makes it impossible to spend any kind of pick on an interior OL in a draft that has some solid options on day 3
Did Seumalo even take 1 snap in last preseason?
He was predominantly a C in college. There isn’t an issue with him handling the position.
Well… in light of recent uhh events… I would take him starting over Wiz for sure.
Best thing about yesterday – Eagles retained all their draft choices. As good as the additions were in the first day of free agency, there still are 8 chances to add quality, young players (and perhaps more, if the 2 K’s can be traded). Amy potential trade with the Saints would have reduced that number and left holes at the top of the draft. Glad it did not happen.
If the Alshon money is similar to what a new deal for Brandin would be, then this was a real bargain because of the ability to keep that 2nd round pick. I know I wasn’t thinking Alshon could be had at this price, and certainly not on a one year deal. The ability to cut bait and run if he is injured or has another suspension immediately makes a skeptic (like myself) feel much better about getting Alshon.
Agreed- the one year deal factor changed my outlook. You stated the reasons why already.
I never considered a one year deal to be a possibility, hence I’ve never been on the Alshon bandwagon. I still prefer Cooks (even if we had to trade a 2&4), but this WR type should mesh well with Wentz and his ability to trust his receivers to make a play.
I believe we will also sign a veteran CB before the draft. Someone who is at least better than Nolan Carroll. I think we will draft at least 2 CB’s in the draft and maybe sign another as an UDFA. Not sure how we will fill the LB, DT, RB or DE holes yet. We all know we can’t fix the entire roster in one offseason, but getting WR and CB addressed could be enough to get us to the playoffs next year.
They almost have to.
Kayvon Webster and Marcus Cooper are still available (I think). But doubt they’d be early signing type guys.
Carroll and McKelvin are still available . . .
Anyone in mind for FA?
I think I’d tend to agree with Tommy that the contract structures of our new WRs doesn’t take WR off of the board early-ish in the draft.
Round 1 Pick 14: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 16 (MINN): Taylor Moton, OT/OG, Western Michigan (B+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (ARI): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 22 (MINN): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (B+)
Round 3 Pick 41 (PITT): Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia (B-)
Round 4 Pick 12: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A-)
Round 4 Pick 32 (COMP): Lorenzo Jerome, SS, Saint Francis (PA) (B)
Round 5 Pick 11: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 6 Pick 10: Stevie Tu’ikolovatu, DT, Southern California (C)
Round 7 Pick 12: T.J. Logan, RB, North Carolina (C+)
I like that one, even though you once again neglected my developmental TE. I think, after yesterday, that I’m coming to terms that TE will not be a drafted position this year. They still need CBs, a RB, probably a DT, probably a DE, depth LB, depth S, depth OL. As everyone is acknowledging, even WR is not off the board. I don’t see them using even a 5th on a TE project. Sigh.
Can you please stop doing these stupid trade backs. Do a realistic draft or don’t post it
How can he do a realistic draft? Hes just a fan throwing darts
I really hope we can keep Logan. With a modest market it should be possible.
I also hope we add a guy like Devin Taylor for cheap and I think there is a great chance we take a flyer on DeAndre Levy to be starting WILL instead of Kendricks.
Because of contract only? Kendricks is better to me.
Levy is a better player when healthy for this scheme
so it’s possible – this time next year we’ll be needing 2 starting wr’s again? What a feeling going into spring knowing we have a quality starting QB/WR/WR/OL. How can you not drool over the wr’s and then throw in Ertz. This will help the running game as well.
Smith is singed for three years – so if he works out, he’s here. If not, he’s gone. So it’s possible we’ll need two, or 1 or none if Jeffery works out and they can sign him to a deal (or franchise).
optionality
If Alshon has a good year, he will get a long term deal
Best outcome for both parties, but I’ll admit-$14m on a one year prove it deal feels like a lot. Especially with our cap situation.
I believe I heard the term “dysfunction tax” used yesterday in relation to the Browns. When you don’t draft well, you do have to overpay to get talent.
Works for me- we have a hard time developing talent as well. That’s why I like the approach that they are taking with Wentz; over invest so that he has the best opportunity possible
That’s the downside to yesterday. There’s a half decent chance that we could have to replace the left side of the line and the top three WRs after next season.
Any chance for extensions during the year for our new guys, depending on how they play?
Alshon yes, paying two guards big money would be stupid though.
Agreed, and we will need to replace the RT (assuming Lane isn’t an asshat going forward) as well. Gotta develop through the draft, resources will be running thin going forward.
If these guys prove to be what we want, we have ample ability to sign them. Howie has shown there is no need to worry.
If one of the two top receivers happens to fall to the Eagles in the 1st round, I say they still take him. Look a good young receiver up long term. Smith is under contract for three years. Jeffery could get paid next year if he pans out or let go if a new pick comes along. Everybody keeps saying the draft is loaded with talent at CB, so 2nd to 4th should be able to find one or two. Also need a RB and DE help with a couple guys leaving (or soon to leave). Yesterday really help improve the options in the draft.
If WR is BPA draft him, but there is no need to force it now. Where we have bigger needs is CB, DE, DT and OLB, all of which need depth or starters.
Ideally draft would go something like 1-CB 2-DE 3-CB 4-OLB 4-RB, 5-DT.
Think there are 2 more moves to happen, Mathews getting injury waived, and a trade of Kendricks or Kelce. Once that happens think they will sign 1 more defensive player to fill a hole, of which Bennie could definitely be the move.
CBs are expensive this year.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/840060437727174656
Good observation. If only there was a way to get multiple potentially quality cbs, who are young and cheap… oh well.
Chloroform and Todd Herreman’s van?
I like your style.
I remember Barkley throwing a crap ton of ints late in the season.
That’s a lot for Ryan. Going to be hard to get better at CB without going younger and investing draft picks.
Re: Barkley
***golf clap***
Tom waddle, the chicago beat, seems to think Alshon is a solid #2 but not a #1. Obviously he’s never seen our WR corps. He’s a 1AAA
If Alshon is a not a no. 1, wtf does one look like? Julio Jones type season?
he was saying that his best years were opposite Marshall. When he was the go to guy, he didnt perform like a #1
He did, he was just injured one year and suspended and played with garbage the other year
Even Randy Moss looked bad on the Raiders.
Maybe he means #2 overall, league-wide?
Seriously. He may not be as good as Julio/OBJ/AB but he is still a “#1.”
It’s pure semantics. Everyone has different qualifiers. On one end of the spectrum, well, every team has a #1 WR in a literal sense. On the other end of the spectrum a #1 WR demands extra attention from the defense and still gives top production. Of course there would be only 2-5 guys in the league that fit that bill. Everyone else’s definition of a #1 WR falls somewhere in between.
The guy probably has a rigid memory and mindset of Brandon Marshall #1, Alshon #2. You know, because flip-phones are hi-tech nowadays and all…
I tend to agree from what he has shown so far. This isnt the mid 00s though. WR aint what it was. In this NFL he is a 1 …o ly if healthy of course
Wrong
1 dropped pass on 92 targets. *Chubs up just a little*
A little? That’s being bashful
GE’s early season prediction for AJ:
90 catches, 1264 Yards, 12 TDs.
[IF AJ stays injury and suspension free]
You OK about not getting Desean now?
Yeah sure. I wouldn’t have paid DeSean $11m/year. That’s insane. As much as I like him..
Glad to hear it. I think we are very nicely positioned at WR now to say the least, and frankly, I’m glad Desean isn’t here. But I promise, I’ll stop bustin your marbles bout this now. Cheers (I assume you’re recovered and are back on the wagon already).
If you are referring to my root canal then no unfortunately. Need a 2nd treatment next week and it is painful as hell. Guess I will be on the meds wagon for quite a while. lol
https://imgur.com/LnJS1Br
Agreed; DeSean in the $8m range would be acceptable, but at his current rate I hope he enjoys Florida. Plus, he should save on income tax down there
Hope ur right!
So yesterday was pretty exciting.
I have to wonder if the running game doesn’t improve just due to the presence of a deep threat on the field. Safeties won’t be able to squat on short/intermediate routes anymore and respect the fact that we have players who can take the top off the defense.
Agreed. That coupled with fewer drops, and a rookie QB who has had a year to grow… the offense just might be good enough to be competitive in the NFC East.
I think we are on the right track and closer than most think. To hear people talk: the WR’s were a disaster (agreed), the play calling was terrible (sometimes, but the best play caller in the league last year is going to be remembered for 1 atrocious series), O-line was bad, no run game, so on and so forth. There were some serious serious deficiencies last year, to the point that the fact that we were not a complete dumpster fire was encouraging to me. Something was working well in all this. Hopefully it gets a chance to shine with better pieces.
Mehhh. Didn’t feel like thay was happening last season. Can’t hurt though! Young guys are a year older is the biggest hope for impromemt right now.
I agree. Particularly, if Wentz takes a step forward in development, the whole team will.
the issue we had is our offense operated almost entirely in a block from sideline to sideline and 20 yards deep (and 5 yards back). Always good to spread the defense out a bit, especially if your QB has mobility. Just more opportunities for all.
Surprised there seems to be more local praise for the moves Roseman made yesterday than nationally.
Don’t remember that being the case most notably with ‘Dream Team I.’ Hell, SI gave Nnamdi the cover and they wrote a fairly lengthy article on them in the same issue.
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/nnamdi-si.jpg
In the grand scheme of things, a mediocre team just got a little better.
In hindsight, that cover belongs to Evan Mathis.
Glad to see the Eagles make some nice moves early and address WR so in the draft they can focus on CB first (possibly WR or RB if the right players are still on the board). But overall I think this coming season is already gonna have a far better team than last year.
This S HITTY writer writes a story about #17. Useless and worthless site.
Do you Internet Torrette’s Syndrome?
Partially, he’s also an ahole.
you can curse here, buddy. no need to try to fool the censors that don’t exist.
Yeah, but I won’t be here long because this Eagles site offers nothing of any value to read. It will be deleted from my bookmark.
I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you find what you’re looking for.
for me this is watching you guys talk to a ghost.
yup – “This User is blocked”
that’s my schizophrenia acting up
Same here. A ghost named “This user is blocked.”
Then why do you keep coming back to be a jerk? Is that what gives you self esteem or something?
You really are a loser.
Are you going to cry now that I didn’t give YOU my reasons earlier that this site sucked?
Bye.
One can only hope, Troll.
DICK
Hey loser! Do you wear an Eagles jersey with someone else’s name on the back? I’m sure you do, LOSER.
I laugh at the life you must lead…trying to irritate people. Too bad. I’m removing your posts before you can reply.
FUCK YOU, DICK LOSER
Buy another jersey with someone else’s name, LOSER!!!!!!!!!
Josina Anderson reported yesterday on ESPN that Jeffrey is planning on trying to recruit other guys to Philly. He signed a 1 year deal, but that sounds like he’d prefer a multi year commitment.
Nice catch. That’s awesome.
What most fans don’t seem to know: it was the Eagles that offered AJ only a one year contract, and it was AJ who was betting on him in Philly rather than signing a multi-year contract in Minny.
I do strongly believe that AJ is here for the long run!
She a NI GGER and she breaks more stories than this RETARDED writer.
Question for the class: what’s our cap situation next year (to afford to re-sign Jeffrey, etc)? Who comes off the books besides JP?
I think we can finally get rid Agholar, not a ton of cap space cleared but I think we’ll all feel slightly cleaner.
I think he might develop well under 100% less pressure this year and the current negativity toward him will look quite dumb in retrospect. I could be wrong, but either way worrying about him now is just stupid.
Yea I think he can turn into a post-hype player roughly similar to Robert Woods.
Not in this town. People will never forgive him for not being worthy of a first round pick.
Well, that’s one thing I hate about our fellow dumba**es. I wish open-mindedness, some patience, and wisdom was part of the package, but I’m not stupid enough to expect otherwise. You know, Brandon Graham was a bust and Hicks was a dumb pick because we had LBs then…
Ehhhh I think most people are over Marcus Smith and the narrative is slowly moving into he’s an acceptable depth DE and no longer a complete waste of space.
I would love to think that but I don’t agree with “most people” at this point – I think it’s still the vast majority that still thinks he’s worthless trash and should be cut.
The thing that bothered me most about Marcus Smith were the people telling me he was just fine when he wasn’t.
I was impressed with his speed. It’s a shame he doesn’t have the brain for 3-4 olb because that fits his body better than 4-3 DE… which fits his brain better than his body.
I agree, he has all the tools people saw in the draft. I think the total lack of hands is a headcase thing. I think Tommy picked the perfect clip, oh hey a nice route against Richard Sherman aaaaand (may not have been man coverage, might have been passed on to another defender), smh…
I remember us discussing that exact play during the season. From other angles you could see that Sherman was in man coverage, and Agholar completely planted him and left him in the dust as he crossed the middle. He has something like 3-5 yards of separation on that route against one of the best CBs in the league. And then of course he tried to catch the ball with his facemask. It really seems like he has ability and just needs to get his mind right. I have not given up hope for him just yet.
We’ll have 10 million in cap space with nothing changing. However, Peters ($10M), Kendricks ($4.4M), Celek ($4M), Kelce ($6M), and Agholor ($500K) could all be moved on from with significant savings.
This is of course assuming none of those guys are moved this year.
Have 10 mil in cap as it stands right now.
Obvious cuts:
JP (10 mil), Chase (7 mil), Kendricks (4.4 mil), Kelce (6 mil), Ron Brooks (2.5 mil)
Other possible:
Celek (4 mil), Torrey Smith (5 mil)
New cap space:
$40-49 million
We should be good.
You have to account for taking Barwin, McKelvin, Kendricks contracts off of 2018 as well
This one does that
Include Daniel @$7M and McLeod @ $2.8M in that list.
McLeod?!
Looking for whatever I can find. And I forgot Sproles. $4M.
Unless he puts in 16 weeks of Bengals tape that ain’t happening.
Yeah. Forget I said McLeod.
Peters and Celek are pretty much locks. That’s 14.
Curry saves 5 mil if he doesn’t turn it around.
Sproles comes off the books.
Chase saves 7 mil,
We’re pretty healthy cap wise moving forward especially considering JMatt hopefully won’t be extended. Basically Hicks in the only guy we have to pay in the next 18 months and the older guys will gray out.
Also Celek, Kelce, Brooks
Those guys will all come off in the coming days and months that’s why I didn’t count them.
sure, but not counted in the 10 mil in cap space that is currently projected for next season
Sproles will be gone (great player, but also expensive). Most important thing is getting rid of the terrible contracts for Celek and Daniel. That will save a ton and you basically don’t lose anything. Best way to save money.
From a locker room culture perspective, extending Celek made sense last year. Reward own players, great leader and fighter and all that. I get it. Also, new HC, it’s good to have someone like Celek, a true Eagle, around. But I have to say, Celeks contract could be the worst contract Howie signed as GM. He’s 32, not really productive anymore and he’s at 4m dead/1m savings this year. He had no leverage at all and is basically uncuttable this year. Really not Roseman style. It hurts right now. Especially with having Burton around, who could easily play the #2 TE imo.
Also, JP will be gone next year and either replaced by an early draft pick or Vaitai/Gordon. Either way, you save ~ 8-9m on the cap.
So we’re very tight this year, but next year shouldn’t be a problem.
I don’t disagree that the contract is an anchor, but I don’t think Burton can replace Celek’s blocking, which is still an important factor in certain situations. Ertz appears to be capped at average in that respect, and Burton’s just bad. Making Burton the #2 TE takes a bunch of plays out of the play book, and makes this an even more pass-heavy team. They have plenty of depth at pass-catching TE, but they need to develop a blocker.
Ya JP being gone is a big cap savings.
A lot was made about all the contracts Howie gave out this past year and how they effected our cap situation in 2017 (putting us at the bottom of the league in available funds, 29th overall). But, few people looked ahead to 2018 and beyond.
In 2018, if you assume we already unloaded Barwin, Mathews, McKelvin and Kendricks, we will be looking at a projected cap space of: $31.9M.
And, that is with Jason Peters counting $11.25M, $10.25M of which would be saved if he’s cut after next year, Brent Celek counting $5M, $4M of which can be saved if he’s cut after next year, and Chase Daniel counting $8M, $7M of which can be saved if he’s cut after next year.
Kelce could also be cut for a $6M savings, Ron Brooks for $2.14M, DGB for $1.2M and Agholor for $600k.
So anywhere from $50-63M in space is projected to be there with the core in place just around the time Wentz is hitting the beginning of his prime. If you assume about $5M for each draft class in 2017 and 2018 and $10M for each free agency haul in each of those years, we could add a significant FA and a mid level veteran with each FA, and still have $25-30M to play with in FA next year. And, Jordan Hicks and Jordan Matthews are the only young players (aside from Bennie Logan this offseason) that will be in line for an extension going into 2018.
Say what you will about Howie, but the guy knows how to work the cap. Even two years out we know the team will enter Wentz’s prime with its LT, C/G, RG, QB, a stud TE, two DE, a stud DT, and two top notch safeties looked up on what will look like very reasonable contracts by then, with 2 draft classes, 2 free agency classes and an addition $30M in space to fill out the roster just as Wentz hits the point of being ready to compete for a Super Bowl.
You are one of those DICKHEAD LOSERS that wears an Eagles jersey with someone else’s name on the back. HAHAHAHAHA. What a LOSER !!!!!!!!!
Get Pryor 2 big bodies trade Matthews or something.
Dumb money move. We have 3 big bodies including Matthews now at WR, and excluding DGB. We also have Ertz.
Rather use the extra cap room (assuming there is some?) on Logan/other DT.
Move DGB I don’t think it’s that big a hit. Trade Matthews and Kendricks and see where we are at.
No, don’t trade Matthews. He’s our #3 WR. Why weaken our WR depth chart just to trade a guy? To me that’s idiotic. He’s a great #3 guy in the slot with strong vets around him. No reason to trade him.
I’d take Pryor over Matthews any day and run Jeffrey Pryor and Smith
Probably a chance they trade Matthews now regardless and draft a WR in the 3rd/4th
3 year deal for Wisniewski to come back to Philly.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK
So…..not a fan?
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Barbre, Seumalo, Brooks, Warmack, Wiz, Gordon.
It’s a draft with some really enticing day 3 interior OL.
think Kelce is good as gone then?
Oh he gone.
I mean they could keep him and then have 7 interior OL and be paying 25 mil for it, but that seems unlikely.
Literally the only positive is no more Josh Andrews.
yeah, that’s too much for who we have. From the looks of things we are moving towards the road grater variety of lineman
That’s vintage Andy Reid: road grader linemen to pass block 47 times a game.
Ok, but maybe intesnse competition and little guaranteed money so it’s all good? Cut the weakest?
We’ve got 900 good interior OL and my fat ass would probably be CB 4 right now. Or DE 4 or DT 5 or LB5. They’re going to have to pick for need on day 3 and miss out on guys with legit starting potential so they can take a mediocre backup LB or CB.
I hear you. Appreciate the response.
You think Barbre/Warmack/Wiz/Gordon is more than a pile of tire kicking?
Wait for the money. Howie was really disciplined yesterday. I read yesterday the Eagles were impressed with his starts at LG (I hope that wasn’t really the case, I wasn’t). As a back-up Center/Guard for back-up money (and insurance for Seumalo not getting the job done) he’d be ok. I worry about his character, but the Eagles saw him one full season.
But it needs to be clear back-up money imo. Otherwise I’m pissed, too.
It’s not the money it’s roster construction
You seem to be very down on Wiz and Warmack. Would you rather keep Kelce and draft an OLiner on day 3?!
I would have gone Barbre-Seumalo-Brooks with a draft pick (pushing Barbre) and Gordon and maybe one of Wiz or Warmack
They need the 2018 RT to be somewhere on this roster don’t they? Assuming Peters is gone and Johnson moves.
The 2018 RT is going to be Vaitai v a top 100 next year.
Man, that’s really a step back from what we have now…assuming Johnson’s good for the full 16, that is.
I mean just about anything was going to be a step down.
Vaitai can be a middle of the pack starting RT. Obviously it’s better if he’s just a really good swing tackle. The T class is just so bad this year. There’s nothing outside of the top 50ish that’s better than Big V.
All things considered I would put the highest odds of our 2018 top pick being a T.
Or FA.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2018/right-tackle/
Hey, Dennis Kelly is on there.
You don’t think that will change? I think at least one decent Tackle ends up on the market, but we’ll see. Not arguing that building thru the draft isn’t better.
Maybe Morgan Moses. Just looked at the 2014 draft class, there’s nothing really there besides that.
They may be hoping to hit the lotto with someone like Hart or Gordon. But thank you for the analysis, does look like you are spot on.
RG is settled for the foreseeable future. We have a young G/C in Seumalo. A pretty young Guard in Warmack. Barbre is a vet, but I very much like him on the roster for 2017 because he can play LG or be the 6th OL who can play every position except C.
Wiz comes in as the back-up C (we all hope) . As soon as Kelce is traded/cut, Seumalo will (hopefully) be our C. He’s young. Can have a veteran back-up in this case. And it has value when your back-up C can also play Guard. It’s a waste of a 46 active gameday spot otherwise, imo.
I think they view Gordon and Vaitai as pure Tackle prospects. We have a future need there. Barbre is probably the back-up LT and RT for 2017, but he and Peters will be gone in 2018. Need Gordon and Vaitai as Tackles, at least for depth.
Well if the plan is to move on from Kelce and Barbre and start Seumalo and Warmack, it would make sense to have our top backup interior lineman be a guy who can play Center as well. If you roll with Seumalo at C without Wiz on the roster there’s no viable backup center.
That being said, I don’t think signing Warmack and Wiz precludes us at all from taking anyone in the draft. They just replace Barbre and Kelce’s roster spots with cheaper alternatives.
Compare the interior OL depth chart to corner, de, dt, lb.
You’re on the clock in the fourth of fifth round.
Who ya takin?
Hopefully corner is deep by the time that round rolls around, but point taken. Maybe the organization has targeted interior line as being undervalued, so that signing competent vets and using the draft for other positions is in the strategy guide.
Good point and I don’t disagree. Just don’t think the recent moves have changed that at all. If we hadn’t signed Warmack and Wiz and stuck with Kelce and Barbre we’d be in the same position depth chart-wise. Except now with the cap savings of replacing Kelce and Barbre on the depth chart with Wiz and Warmack we can actually possibly sign someone for depth at those other positions.
Exactly, I see this as insurance of Seumalo replacing Kelce and lets Warmack and Wisniewski battle for LG. Probably spells the end of Barbre too.
I think you jump to conclusions about players being cut too quickly. Just sayin…
Well u were right on my earlier post about Kelce…. i share your sentiment.
Hope there’s nothing guaranteed…
If it’s a low $ deal, why not have a versatile swing backup? As long as it’s super cheap.
3 years up to $9M, however with incentives, he’s looking to make up to $15M.
Yeah that’s not the kind of deal I wanted.
Bye bye Kelce. Thanks for everything (but not the penalties…).
(but particularly for the beard)
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Agreed. IMO hasn’t been the same player since recovering from his abdominal injuries the last couple of years. What an amazing athlete, and generally cool character.
Ok, capheads, help me out. I remember seeing approximately $8M in cap space to start FA. Cutting Barwin gained them another $7M or so. I look at yesterday’s signings, and they add up to around $19M. So they are currently $4M ish over the cap? Still realistically need to sign at least a cheap veteran CB, and at least either a depth DT or a depth LB that can be reasonably expected to contribute at some point in 2017.
1. Do I have the numbers right?
2. It seems to say that Kelce is gone. Kendricks, obviously, too. But IIRC, the cap savings from those two won’t be enough to cover yesterday, let alone provide some breathing room for the CB. Mathews, but..
3. Does an injury settlement count against this year’s cap? How? Does he have them a bit over the barrel in that respect, now that they need him to accept the settlement, timing wise?
Cutting guys on Rookie deals doesn’t really save much does it?
Some more info on the Wiz deal: it’s 3 years worth up to $9M, but can go up to $15M if he hits incentives.
It’s been fun Kelce, but we wish you luck on your future team.
What what what? Isnt he an over the hill OL that couldnt find a team last year?
He’s only 27, but no he couldn’t find a deal he wanted last year so played on a 1 year “show me” deal. Apparently the Birds saw enough.
Well I don’t like the money. Let’s wait for the structure. If there isn’t much guar., it could be ok. The incentives part show me that it is a prove it deal, even though a pretty long lasting one.
$3mil a year is about what i expect you pay for your 6th man on the OL who can cover center and guard on game days. Seems bad news for Barbre i would imagine who is probably getting cut at the end of training camp unless there are interior injuries.
Barbre is the clearly superior player imo. He was really good at LG last year. Wiz… not so much.
They allowed Barbre to look for a trade partner. For a 2.15m cap hit. He’s worth that. I don’t understand paying Wiz 3m per.
Let’s wait for the structure. If it’s guar. frontloaded, volume backloaded (2m cap hit 2017, 2m cap hit 2018, all of the guar. money in year 1, then 5m in 2019, f.e.), everything is alright.
Must not be saying much for our developmental guys (Andrews, Tobin, Gordon).
Andrews is the Kenjon Barner of interior OL. Tobin is 27 this year and is a 8th or 9th OL. They like Gordon but he’s still got alot of development to do.
Exactly- those guys are gone, camp bodies at best but almost no realistic opportunity to make the roster unless injuries take a toll.
Call me a loser, if you will. Im wearing my white #11 Authentic at work today.
Winner winner chicken dinner!
Eagles vintage pullover for me today.
Do you have someone else’s name on the back??
Do you have someone else’s name on the back?
Basic technique in the Ags video. His hands are backwards.
Thats how Jerry Rice caught the ball.
I just think he missed the ball.
Sure, but he should have had his hands flipped. Thumbs are stronger than pinkies. At that level it should be instinctual to have your hands correct. Can maybe be excused if the ball surprised him, but he was looking the whole time, even adjusted his body.
Not saying that coaching will turn him around. But that was a coachable moment, and if he continues to brain fart then he’s an idiot, bye bye.
Is there a rule that teams must be under the cap by an exact time today?
11.59am.
serious?.. thats like right now.
They have not signed these guys yet. Until Alshon sits in an Eagles office and the team tweets out a picture of him signing the contract he is not on the official NFL salary cap.
per OTC (https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles/) Eagles currently have $12.84m in space before signing Jeffery/Wisniewski which will add $14m and ~$2.5m to the salary cap. Pushing other players off 51 player cut off ‘saves ~$1.1m. So currently the Eagles need to clear $2.5m to make these signings (could be a little less depending on Wisniewski contract).
Draft picks cost less than people think to sign since again they push players off the 51 man cap saving around ~$4m against their total cap hit of about $6.5m
So Eagles need to find $2.5mil in cuts/restructures in the next 24 hours, and will need another ~$3mil or so by the draft. Any extra deals will need to have related cuts/trades/restructures to make possible as well.
the unfortunate piece is that the only reason a flurry of cuts haven’t happened is because we’re trying to trade them. Keeping these players we want to trade is completely off the table, and the guys we will have to cut aren’t likely to start bidding wars, so no one is going to trade for exclusive rights to my knowledge.
Good info, thanks.
Thanks, where do you get 24 hours from though?
Just a rough timeline for when Jeffery actually signs his contract. I cannot imagine they will be able to delay it significantly more than that, although i guess Jeffery and his agent may be willing to wait a bit longer before putting pen to paper.
No. I was just kidding. I am sure the Eagles will be fine and not fined for that. Guess you will have to be under the cap once the season officially kicks off but I don’t know this for a fact…
Brandon Graham comes in at No.9 of top players in the NFL according to PFF
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season/
He’s good…and I like him a lot, but that’s just BS.
Second most hurries in the league is the stat they point to. Pretty impressive… now if he can just hit home more often.
Yeah. Hurries is subjective but sacks is fairly objective.
I take this sort of like PECTOA rating the Orioles.
at first I read as #9 pass rusher and thought, “that’s fine I guess”. But #9 overall, whaaaaat
3 year deal for Wiz? With him and Warmack we must be making moves along the interior of our oline today, right?
It’s all about the W’s. Ha, ha.
Who is the retard that runs this site? He doesn’t offer anything.
You know what a “retarded” troll like you should do? Just go and fuck yourself. Leave us and the one who’s running this site alone.
What new/good info has this site had since yesterday ??
It has taught me that my Discus block list was at least one user too short. Fixed, thanks!
He doesn’t break news…that’s not his job or the point of this site.
Then what is the point of this site?
Tommy talks about the eagles and does a good job of it. Which is why we come here to listen to his comments. He’s not out talking to agents trying to break news. He has a real job, this is what he does on the side. His site also has a large community of eagles fan who comment and talk ammoungst themselves. There’s nothing nefarious here. Yes there are adds, cool. We also donate money to Tommy for his time which is a choice. This site isn’t pretending to be a news source man, so stop trying to cause conflic that isn’t there. Hope that was helpful
You give money to this retard? You are a fucking idiot. Not only an idiot, but you are dumber than a NI GGER.
Glad to see who were dealing with. Bye 🙂
Do you suck his DICK too?
Oh yeah, go fuck yourself too. See!! I can reply the same way.
So you were half normal a week ago. What happened? You drunk? Actually mentally challenged?
What new/good info has this site had since yesterday?
Block this troll. Don’t respond.
This site sucks, it’s written by 2 RETARDS!!! And you are one of them fucking RETARDS. HAHAHAHAHA
Bye bye.
I did now, but this dude actually seemed almost normal a week ago. He probably lost his min wage gig and is hammered, taking it out on the world. Just wanted to check if that was the case.
Oh… its the 2nd. You think Tommy is a reporter.
Have a nice day, don’t forget your helmet when you go outside.
If you clicked the “About” button on the masthead you could find out.
OK. Now I see. These guys know nothing, just a bunch of losers that started a website to offer nothing to Eagles fans. Now I know why they get pissed at me here and want to know why I am so critical of this site, they are part of the comments here to generate fake clickbait ads. Well, this site fucking blows.
Bye.
Pryor leaves Washington w/o deal. Maybe I really am not the only one that is worried about him being a jerk.
Watch him end up in New England…
Latest rumor was him signing back with Cleveland.
who wants to be on a team w/ no quarterback and a crazy FO situation
Snyder to sign him as QB.
There’s only room enough for one giant asshole in DC
I assume you’re talking about the football club, cause there are significantly more than one if we add politicians to the list.
and “businessmen”
lobbyists…
What’s the difference between a “lobbyist” and a current member of the cabinet?
One gets paid big bucks now. One gets paid big bucks when they leave. Only difference is time.
Some in the Executive are getting paid the big bucks now.
Yeah, I got lots of opinions there, but I want to help keep the site apolitical and my wife says I swear too much.
You wife probably wants a real dick. Have her give me a BJ, HJ and a RIMJOB before I splatter her face with my paste.
You really are stupid if you don’t know what the difference is. There are at least 70 registered lobbyist for each member of congress.
I may be stupid but I’m not dumb enough to think that a Congressperson is in the Cabinet.
It’s congressman or congresswoman, not congressperson. You DUMBFUCK.
Is that so?
the Redskins have way more than one
That has been disproven time and again, with new levels being set currently.
Yes, and you are it, you asshole dicksucker.
Snyder covers much more than the DC metro area lol
Barring a re-instatement by the NFL, would you guys take a flyer on Josh Gordon?!
do you mean “pending a re-instatement”?
Yeah sure. Fixed. Thanks.
Isn’t he still a Brown? See no value in the Browns cutting him honestly at this point, and even if they did i doubt he would clear waivers 1-13 so the Eagles could grab him.
TBH I got lost with him being still with the Browns or not…?!
I honestly cannot imagine that man getting his life together until he has destroyed any dream of playing football in his own mind. And I think that realization comes long after all of his actual chances have been used up.
So, no.
Hell No.
If what you want is to have two very nice homes – then you get two very nice homes, and someone says “I have this flashy mansion that is covered in napalm and has a crappy foundation – I can get it to you on the cheap – you in?” – the answer is hell no.
Please stop searching for WRs.
nah. Last year yeah.. now nah.
Rudy Ford with a 4.25 at his Pro Day…
I can’t more strongly recommend everyone take advantage of Disqus’s block feature (click the arrow on the right). Don’t interact with the troll. It’s a kid and kids need attention. Starve ’em out.
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I love seeing the “This user is blocked.” message.
I picture a small, trollish kid standing in an empty room whining, “Hey guys listen to this! Guys? Hey, where did everybody go? Aw, guys.”
You probably give money to this RETARDED writer. You are dumber than a
NI GGER!
Seems like this one actually has issues. Feel bad almost.
I’m shocked he’s still around. You said ‘Bye’ hours ago.
You probably give money to this RETARDED writer. You are dumber than a NI GGER.
Too late, I’ve already blocked him.
It’s the most wonderful thing ever. Even more wonderful is watching them try to scream into the void after they’re blocked and people tell them how sad and pathetic they are to be trolling in the first place. Impotence is a terrible thing, almost as bad as irrelevance.
My favorite aspect of Eagles free agency is how deep our OL has become especially interior OL. Loving the OL depth.
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I like having Powerful interior OL with G/C versatility instead of a smaller C like Kelce who could never consider playing Guard. This should make for some exciting Camp battles.
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For me Signing Alshon is like getting DEZ Bryant, big physicak Wrs who earn their money coming down with 50/50 balls which Should be a god send for a young QB that wants to be aggressive with his throws
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If HOWIE can miraculously pull off Keeping Bennie logan I’ll be in Eagle Heaven
Looks like Eagles showing heavy interest in Giants DT Hankins whom I wouldn’t mind personally as a potential Logan replacement.
If we have to lose Bennie, Hankins would be a solid replacement
Plus he’s 3 years younger.
Hoping Logan doesn’t end up playing for one of our rivals
Wasn’t expecting Bennie to be 28 when I saw that today…….. no wonder we are moving on.
I mostly agree. I think Wiz was a waste of resources, particularly if the details of the contract mean that it is truly a 3-yr deal. I would have rather seen that go the Logan and leave room for youth on the OL.
If the eagles want to get RId of Kelce, than im absolutely thrilled to have Wiz back. I’d prefer having a young Center(Isaac) and a capable veteran starting Center… I want two of these 3 on the roster( Sumalo, Wiz, Kelce)
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Wiz/Seumalo give us two capable centers
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Seumalo, Wiz, Barbie, Warmack give us 4 capable Guards to battle it out
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Lane, JP, Vaitai, Barbie give us 4 capable OTs
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I’d be thrilled going into a season with that type of depth
I like the bigger guys for the power they might provide in the run game, my one reservation is it’s a tad old school. Interior pass rush has become one of the most important parts of defense in recent years. You really need more athleticism these days to deal with all the crap they send up the middle now. Used to be if you could anchor, you could pass protect in the interior well enough. I’m going to have to take a closer look at our big boys in the middle to see what we’re building
A DUMB NI GGER COULD DO A BETTER JOB ON THIS SITE THAN THIS RETARD.
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I didn’t see any discussion of this.
I’m interested.
Unless Howie has the ability to fiat money, I don’t see how that’s happening.
I’m starting to think he has a destination for Chase. Too much money spent on OL and WR so far, with other positions clearly needing to be addressed, even if cheaply, in FA.
I missed what Howie was saying in the press conference about Chase, but it’s unlikely HOWIE would tip his hand either way so Probably doesn’t matter
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Wonder how much cheaper we could get FOles compared to what we are paying Chase?
There’s gotta be $3-5M difference.
If that’s the case, I’d find swapping Chase for FOles very beneficial.
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Is it safe to assume that the dead money associated with getting out of the Chase contract eliminates the benefit of signing FOles to 3-5mil less than what we are paying Chase?
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Is finding a team to trade for Chase the only way that would make sense?
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Chase value is helping Wentz, I’d actually trust FOles more than Chase if Wentz needed to miss a few games and we need a backup QB to win enough games to keep us afloat
If we can trade Chase, we have $2m in dead money on the cap, versus a $6m savings. So, we’d have esentially $4m to play with for his replacement.
OTC has Chase at $7M salary in 2017. If he’s traded, they have to capture $2M in bonus. So, it appears it’s a $5M savings. I assume we could get FOles for $2.5-3M, so I revise my estimate to $2-2.5M
That would still be worth while savings in my opinion
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Guess it Probably comes down to what the eagles value more in Backup QB this year, a mentor to Wentz, or a QB with the best chance of winning games if called upon. Then again I really haven’t seen chase play enough to just assume FOles would give us a better chance to win games, but if it’s close between the two backups go with the Cheaper option, unless that Glennon deal inflates the price tag of free agent backup Qbs more than we think
Eagles would possibly be starting 4 of the top 50 picks from 2013 if this were to happen. #worthless trivia
There is nothing funnier than seeing washington get its shit together for a year or two just to nose dive back into extreme depths of Dysfunction
Howie claims they’re keeping Kelce fwiw.
Probably trying to trade him.
Just like they “kept” Bradford. Also known as holding him hostage until someone coughs up the value we are looking for
To be honest it makes much more sense to restructure some other contract and keep Kelce into training camp than cutting him today. Allows you to evaluate how the line comes together, injuries and increases the chances/leverage to keep him longer term.
Kelce gets paid $0 from now until training camp, and only starts to get paid his $5mil salary if he makes the 53.
howie is a hell of poker player
HR press conference on right now
Is it on CSN?
Live on the Eagles app!
Thanks
Chance Warmack used to complain that his college coach (Stoutland) was better than the OL coaching he was Recieving by the Titans… Guess it’s time to put his money where his mouth is now. If Change of scenery gets him closer to realizing his full potential the kid has a chance to play his way into stability here. Still a young kid
Wouldn’t the cowboys be crowing about getting another 1st round pick right about now? I know “it only takes one team to love him” for him to go high, but surely being picked #10 overall must mean he has serious potential.
Basically…
I read up on his NFL draft grades and comparisons last night – almost everyone had him as their highest rated G, and some stated that he was the best PLAYER in the draft. He was thought that highly of during the process.
This is a great buy low option with tremendous upside potential. If Stoutland can’t bring it back out of him, we can cut our losses and move on.
Dont forget Cooper went before Warmack. Cowgirls signed Cooper too.
Absolutely, especially since we have enough guard talent on the roster to where it won’t screw us if Chance can’t produce.
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Chance and Alshon are basically betting on themselvs, and we are leasing them with an option to buy
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Chance was thought of as the safest prospect in his draft class and the best Guard, but Cooper got taken ahead of him because he had a ton of athletic upside. As a prospect, Chance kind of reminded me a bit of shawn Andrews, big powerful road grader. We are getting Chance on the cheap, if the change of scenery DOESNT serve him well we move on with no problem with Capable guards Brooks, Suemalo, Wiz or Barbie. if Stoutland can get chance to realize his full potential it would be absolutely huge for our future because this kid does not lack for talent
Agreed- I like the one year prove it deals, especially at that price; what I’m not a fan of would be paying 2 guards near the top of the market rate.
I understand that, but it’s not as bad if we have a starting Center and a starting RT who have years of service ahead of them on rookie contracts.
Howie sidestepped question about will there be corresponding moves today? Said he didn’t want to reveal strategy.
Subtext “Yeah I’m tryna trade some of these dudes”
1 year deals = moneyball strategy for football?
Seeing Dontari Poe might be going 1 year deal route with Falcons….. Bennie gonna go 1 year with us? Revis seemed to do really well through his career pulling free agency status every 2 years lol. Players starting to sacrifice contract security for annual free agency and bigger short term paydays? With how exponential spending is in the NFL, why would players want to be locked in a deflated value contract 3 years in?
i know players dont like getting franchise tagged, but they have to LOVE the pay structure of it….. I would risk security for Top-5 positional paydays every year.
Considering most long term contracts are just bullshit that the team can get out of after a year or two, not really much down side to players opting for shorter deals. Might as well give yourself the same right to leave or renegotiate that teams get when they give you a bullshit 5 yr deal that is really just a two year deal anyway
You’re seeing this in baseball and basketball with contracts with opt outs after one year.
agreed. players are starting to realize in an exponential market it is probably better to take the risk and re-position your value annually vs. long term security.
Especially since price Tag of positions increase every year. There is always a FA who wants to become the highest paid player at his position. So a guy who signs a deal making him the highest paid DT in the NFL, two years later he becomes like the 8th highest paid player at his position because contracts get’more lucrative almost every offseason
long term security goes along with straight line growth, NFL is certainly exponential.
Except that careers can be over on the next play, the next practice, the next workout in the weight room, the next . Some players prefer more guarantee as insurance. Plus, you need a team willing to sign you for a short term, too.
yeah obviously, but there is a tier of players at each position where i think that flips and it will probably financially be better for them to bet on themselves…. depth guys, journeymen type obviously want security.
Yeah. Once you’ve made your nut you can take a chance. Like betting with house money at the casino.
We are even seeing NBÁ players taking short two year deals because they are smart enough to forsee drastic cap increases down the road
My wife asked why I was in such a good mood. I told her I was psyched because the Eagles had a great day yesterday. Her reply, indicative of years of marriage to an Eagles fan; “Sure they had a great day. They weren’t playing football.”
wow.
…….and I thought Howie was ruthless by only giving Torrey Smith $500,000 guaranteed lol
My wife could have cut that in half.
I got something very similar
We deserve it for dragging them into Eagles Nation.
2012 redux!
So, what number is Agholar sheepishly going to take?
N/A
00
-00
or 000
I don’t know. I only follow the Eagles.
ouch
89 is what Madden auto assigned Alshon post trade for huff in my world so i will go with that.
32. His ranking in starting receivers.
Wasn’t his actual ranking like 118 or something?
Yeah, I just went with him being the worst of all #2s. But with all the 3 WR sets and injuries, it’s possible he really did perform that bad.
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With RGIII’s release, 21 of 32 picks from 2012 1st round have either changed teams, are out of football, suspended, or unsigned free agents.
And the Eagles’ top 3 picks are still on the team. (Had to type that fast – it’s not going to be true for too much longer).
Wish we could trade for the young RB of the Bears (Howard). Our offense would be set with a talented Powerback like him running behind our Beefed up interior OL. We also have a ton of size at WR to smash DBs blocking in the run game.
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Of course the Bears would laugh at us if we called about trading for Howard especially since they plan on leaning heavily on the run
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Smallwood and SPROLES can handle the screen game, I’d like to see a big physical RB to put the cherry on top of our offense
Samaje Perine
I like him, and he seems like a good dude as well.
Foreman, the new heavyweight king.
Like ACViking says below, the Bears aren’t getting rid of Howard. How about drafting Cook or Fournette?
Bears would laugh at a team for calling them about Howard’s availability. Just like the Cardinals and Dolphins won’t part with their young backs
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Doubt Fournette is still available at #14. I don’t mind spending a 1st on a special RB talent, but no way can I ever be ok packaging picks to trade up in round 1 for a RB, THATS where I draw the line
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If Cook has the highest grade available when it’s our time to pick. Be my guest, but targeting certain positions with a top 15 pick is really foolish. Need The most Special talent available regardless of position with the exception of QB or Safety. Hopefully one of the top 10 prospects get in trouble for something dumb, nothing too serious, just serious enough for a top 5 talent to fall down to #14 like Tunsil falling to Miami for smoking weed (even tho he didn’t fail drug test) and getting caught accepting Money in College… Hopefully a serious talent like Foster or Fournette end up falling to 14, but if a RB is the BPA, we should absolutely draft him.
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We NEED to hit on serious blue chip talent in the draft much more than we need to address certain positions
If we’re go in this direction . . .
I’d rather ask the Cowboys to trade us Ezekiel Elliott.
I’m the fool who wanted the Eagles to take Zeke last year instead of Wentz.
would have been win-win either way i think….except we would have save draft picks taking Zeke and Wentz might have ended up in a Cowboys jersey….. #Earth-2
Zeke is a rare talent but the Eagles needed a qb to build around. I didn’t think Carson had the big-time college experience to pull it off in the NFL. Glad I was wrong.
I never seen Carson play, and typically only a blowhard would claim that they want a player they had never seen over a special talent they know very well (Zeke)
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My OPPINIONS on the Qbs last year was pretty simple:
1) I seen enough of Goff not to want anything to do with him
2) I know nothing about Carson so he wins by default over a QB prospect I don’t want
While I’m confessing my sins, I also wanted Goff over Wentz. Good thing intelligent people ignore me.
No worries, once you get paid to make those decisions, then I’ll hold your feet to the fire
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Im certainly not going to take credit for being on the right side of Goff vs Wentz just because of my sheer ignorance of not knowing enough about Wentz to not want him
If I’m ever on trial, I’d want you on a jury of my peers.
Somewhere in a parallel universe, the Eagles took Zeke and the Cowboys took Wentz. Then the Eagles later took Prescott.
no it really wouldn’t have.
Joe Mixon in the 5th?
No to scum, thanks.
I obviously get the adversity to Mixon, but I am willing to compromise every moral I have to win a SB. The patriots cheat all the time and I’m still envious of their championships. Mixon makes this offense better. goodbye morals, Hello mixon
yeah Pro-Sports aren’t exactly a source of moral values, it’s entertainment, so entertain me damnit!
…..everyone still deals with Charlie Sheen
Someone will take that scumbag in round 2 unfortunately
Why waste your time breaking the covet commandment? Howard isn’t the only rb in the world.
Headline at BGN: “Alshon Jeffery says Carson Wentz is going to be NFL MVP one day.”
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/3/10/14883060/alshon-jeffery-carson-wentz-nfl-mvp-eagles-quarterback-philadelphia-wide-receiver
“I texted Carson The other day and I told him he would be an MVP one day. carson straught up said he didn’t care about being MVP, he wants to win a Super Bowl” Alshon Jeffries on Ginger Jesus
Please learn how to spell our savior’s last name.
Not gonna happen.
Holy hell i just realized DJax is pairing up with Mike Evans, not to shabby.
Good kid…little slow 🙂
Ha!
AdamSchefter: NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has emerged as a candidate to become Washington’s general manager, sources tell @FieldYates and me.
Not sure how true it is, but a reporter tweeted that during the season he heard that a lot of The people in the skins building were jealous of the credit the GM was getting and that they would eventually use his drinking as an excuse to get rid of him…. If there is any truth to this, they are even more dysfunctional than we think
trashing him after firing him was low class
even for the Redskins
worse than us and djax
a bit worse
Chip Kelly was an azz
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NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has emerged as a candidate to become Washington’s general manager, sources tell @FieldYates and me.
Mayock has to be crazy to leave his cushy gig to go work for Dan Snyder
after how they treated the last GM, anyone would be crazy to take that job
Plus, I really like the work he does o our pre-season games.
What in the…
Not sure who loses more, the Redskins for having Mayock as talent evaluator, or Mayock for having Dan Snyder as a boss.
Being a scouting guru and managing a billion dollar operation are 2 different things.
Elway had a mulit-million dollar business empire of car dealerships for many years before he became a GM.
Millen had no management experience and failed miserably.
IMO, Lynch is destined to fail without management experience and so will Mayock.
This tweet brought to you by Frank Gore…
https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/840287723332227073
Yes!
Wonder if the Eagles turned their attention to trading for CB Trumaine Johnson now that trading for Cooks is Probably out the window? I’d be lying out my ass if I said I have seen the Rams play more than a game or two the last few years so I have no clue what his true value is. Im hoping we can acquire at least 1 player via trade this offseason
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Wonder what joe Douglas thinks of Ladaruis Webb who the Ravens cut?
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If we can’t get a significant upgrade at starting CB in Free Agency, Hopefully we can get two cheaper corners like Nolan Carrolr and Kavon and go into the draft with something like Nolan Carroll, Kavon, Jalen Mills, and hope we can come out of the draft with a corner or two, No clue if Kavon is any good but if a team has a gem at CB Burried on their bench it could be the Broncos who have 3 really BIGTIME starting corners ahead of him and at least he would be another quality ST contributor to our bad ass ST unit
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But we could use more talent at every position on defense except Safety
No way we can afford him, and I really don’t like using future money for the present. Team isn’t in position to justify that, either.
I agree with that, but im not sure HOWIE is done working his magic on our cap space. But I think it’s likely we will have to go bargain shopping at corner and address it at some poïnt in the draft
Alshon and Torrey were had for the same price as DJax and either Britt or Woods. Very impressive job by Roseman.
“even tho we struggled in San Fran, I know I still had the respect of opponents by the coverages they threw at me, and always matchup up their #1 CBs against me”-Torrey Smith
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At 4 p.m., $4.35 million of Mychal Kendricks’ salary becomes guaranteed. Sources say the plan is to keep him on the roster past the deadline
He’s still very tradeable with a guaranteed 5 mill. I have to imagine that something is in the works.
I thought that happened on Saturday?
They had to be cut by 4pm today or money became guaranteed
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Carolina trading DE Kony Ealy and a third-round pick to Patriots in exchange for New England’s second-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
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Washington giving WR Terrelle Pryor a one-year, $8 million deal, per sources.
WoW
Lol go from one dysfunctional franchise to the Next. I’d be friggin furious if im a Browns fan and we just lost him over $8mil.
That’s insane, for sure. $8m for that guy and a team that has money to blow on BROCK OHMYDON’THURTMEWILER lets him walk for nothing? Geez…… he must really be an asshole.
Maybe he can get the ForeSkins GM job after his contract expires?
Is it known yet if he signed as a WR or if he’s there to play QB for them?!
the Browns should have mercy and just waive Joe Haden and Joe Thomas, those dudes deserve a year or two playing for something before their games significantly decline.
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Football is too Physical and Taxing on your body for two classy BALLERS to spend their entire careers playing for absolutely NOTHING
Lets trade Kendricks for Hayden. And get him to take a reduced salary for coming here.
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UPDATE – Terrelle Pryor’s one-year, $8MM #Redskins deal more like $6MM + incentives:
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/03/breaking-redskins-to-sign-terrelle-pryor …
If you were this guy’s agent getting him out of CLE, knowinging that he has a history of personality conflicts on all his past teams, wouldn’t you send him pretty much anywhere else before WAS?
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Chance Warmack says he feels like Eagles OL coach Jeff Stoutland is going to take him to the next level.
That would make 1 person he took to the next level
Ouch, did ok with Barbre, Seumalo, and Big Vee….
Yeah, I’m just spoiled by guys like Juan and Mudd occasionally developing late rounders and nobody FA’s into great players. If he can turn Warmack into a starter, transition Lane over to LT and be one of the best (as he is capable of) and making, who are we looking at for RT, Vaitai? Him into a good RT. Then all will be forgiven.
Lane was raw as hell when he got he, Stoutland has been his only NFL coach, gotta give him credit for that.
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It’s too soon to know, but Stoutland seemed to have Vaitai and Seumalo heading in the right direction as rookies.
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I think It says a lot that like Coach Fipp, Stoutland has survived regime changes and coming from College he has always seemed to have the respect and admiration of veterans like Herremans, Kelce, Peters, Mathis.
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Im encouraged by Stoutlands history in Philly. I don’t think wanting to replace him has ever crossed my mind.
It crossed mine during the Chip era. Just about, yeah everyone of Mudd’s guys regressed (though Peters, a Juan guy actually, was due to age) but the guys we are getting now look more like the guys he had at bama, big war daddies as opposed to sleek and athletic guys that Mudd liked and chip like for the zone scheme. So maybe now that he is getting guys he wants, he is turning the corner.
That’s a good point. Our Personel now is certainly looking more like what he had at Bama. Hopefully it makes a big difference.
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Im really excited about having Warmack, that’s a talented, powerful young man
Agreed, he’s obviously talented. Alshon and Smith, we pretty much know what we’re getting. Warmack is that diamond in the rough that could be the steal of FA
It doesn’t always work out (See Schwartz connection with Leodis McKelvin), but with the pretty significant bust ration that comes with paying free agents from other teams, I do appreciate that they seem to be targeting playërs from other teams who we really know and already have relationships with.
Joe douglas and our WRs coach with Alshon
Chance Warmack and Stoutland
Schwartz with Nigel Bradham and Brooks
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I don’t know how much it helps, but Im sure familiarity and pre-existing relationships with Playërs we target certainly won’t hurt.. the More Info we have the better chance we have of making the best decisions
Let us not forget who brought Stoutland and Fipp here.
Which would be one more than Greg Lewis did, amirite?
“nelson can have #17, im ready to leave #17 in Chicago”-AJ
That was his best line in the presser.
Geez Louise
AJ is so nervous. Feel almost sorry for him…
Yep. He was OTAs Doug P levels of nervous.
Thankfully he’s not our HC..
Yeah but he is did a better job and seemed more comfortable in his 1 on 1 interview with Barkaan
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/alshon-jeffery-thank-you-chicago-bears-eagles/
Love the end where he doubts the Linc can be as loud as the Vet was in “Invincible” The first time Wentz throws him a pass and he doesn’t drop it I think the place will explode…
first time he scores on the cowboys should be an experience.
That was pretty cool
Thats great TY.
If he really wrote that himself, pretty impressive.
If AJ wrote this by himself, he’s already one of my favourite Eagles. Might be time again to buy an Eagles jersey.
Alshon Jeffery’s contract is 1 year, 9.5 million with 4.5 million in incentives, etc.
Maybe that’s why The Eagles didn’t need to release anybody yet??
It seems as if putting Howie in a shitty cap situation for the first time ever forced him to up his game. He is killing it.
For the 4.5m to not count against the cap they need to be unexpected bonuses, so must be things like probowl, allpro, career highs in catches or td’s. So there has to be a good chance Jeffery only gets paid 9.5m this year which is crazy value when you look at what garçon or DeSean got
him and pryor got similar deals, problem is look at jeffery’s production and suspension and injuries.
I would rather argue look at what a dick Pryor must be…
Unexpected as defined by the league = didn’t happen last year. So it could be something as simple as 55 catches or 900 yards.
Or three touchdowns.
It’s based off last years stats when he only played 12 games, (so game bonuses will only be 12/16 LTBE) and for stats he was like 800 and 2 TDs, so easy to cook a couple million into next year with that.
Great price for a one year rental, I agree.
Howie you God.
Love me some Howie.
About time he gets some credit.
It’s a shame Ryan Mathews can’t be trusted with ball security and staying healthy because it would be fun to see his explosive, violent style of running behind a seriously Beefed up OL who should be significantly improved at moving the line of scrimmage with our clear shift from smaller quicker OL to Big, Power Lineman. Our OL is going to be a lot bigger than it was under chip. Warmack, Seumalo, and Big Daddy Brooks are all bigger than the interior OL chip kelly went with. I don’t want to get into debate of smaller more athletic OL vs Bigger Power OL, but I think at the very least it’s safe to say we will see a signifcant upgrade in moving bodies in short yardage situations.
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Hopefully we can see a big improvement in presnap OL penalties compared to last year. We also need to cut down on the fumbles between Center/QB exchanges. Don’t want to see Carson having to bail out the center so often whether it’s Kelce, Suemalo or The Wiz
Offseason just started and I think the Eagles already have significantly closed the gap on how much more offensive Talent Dak Prescott had than Carson. Our OL is getting better while Dallas lost depth (It’s key Reserve Leary)
Alshon for me is very similar to DEZ Bryant without the nightmare personality
Ertz, Celek, Burton > Dallas TE group
if we can also add a legit #1 RB, HOWIE will have done a great job closing the talent gap on offense bêtween us and Dallas. Once that happens, im still confident Wentz proves to be the better QB,
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I also don’t think its a bad thing that Carson had to play thru a lot more adversity than Dak did as rookies, but it’s important to not put Wentz in that position too long or we risk developing Bad habbits, It’s going to be interesting to compare and contrast the two young NFC East QBs now that it looks like they will have similar talent to work with in their sophmore season. it’s also interesting that this is both of their first offseasons as Staring QBs so both are going to get every opportunity to improve, going to be interesting to see who makes the most of it
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Washington better figure out if Cousins is Their guy or not, and the Giants better start looking at life After Eli or the skins/Giants risk giving the Eagles and Cowboys a huge head start in rebuilding for the post Tom Brady, Brees, Rothlisberger era
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If Our Front Office can pull a gem of a draft out of there ass next year could be more interesting than I anticipated
Some good points, but I don’t agree our TEs are better than Dallas. Jason Witten is a HOFer, and catches anything and everything. We also still don’t have someone like Zeke or Beasley, who can be reliable guys to move the chains.
I don’t think our Offense is at the dallas level yet, but I think we already have taken some significant steps in closing that talent gap and the offseason just started. dallas lost Leary already. are they also losing Terrence Williams? Pretty sure they retained Brice Butler.
Witten hands are fine, the rest of him is declining and can’t possibly perform at that level much longer. While Witten is a declining player at the end of his career I think Ertz and Burton are clearly still ascending young players, and Celek is every bit as effective as Witten when it comes to blocking. I think dallas is still looking for Wittens replacement. I wouldn’t even consider trading our TE’s for the Cowboys TE’s
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Dallas has added Nothing to there offense yet, if anything they are losing talent. Eagles have significantly improved the talent in our WR room, and potentially also improved our starting OL. With the very least improving our OL depth. As we stand today I think it’s fair to say we have closen the offensive talent gap sorrounding the two young QBs. We clearly ARENT there yet, but with a good draft things could get interesting.
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Think Dallas is going to dump all their resources into building their defense. Not sure their offense will look much different. Regardless of what Dallas does, I think we will need at least two quality Offseasons to get where we need to be, so far so good
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I also think as fans too often we rule out struggling young players. It’s still early enough in the careers of struggling young Eagles to become better than we think. We are going to really find out about our coaching staff because there is a lot of untapped potential on this roster. if we can salvage one or two of our underachieving puppies it will make a huge difference (MS2, Agholar, DGB). If those kids fail in the NFL it won’t be for a lack of talent
Witten. Is. Done.
Mayock’s is saying the WASTEAM GM rumors are BS.
Everyone is burying the lead here. Have we resigned Bryan Braman yet? There can be no champonship without him.
As much as I hate the Redskins, the vitriol the media is putting out against them about badmouthing Scot McCloughan is misplaced. Anyone who has a hardcore alcoholic in their family can attest how they ruin everyone’s life around them.
Many in the media would have you believe McCloughin’s drunkenness had no impact on others at work, they just want to remind everyone how much of a scouting genius he is and how he has a famous father. If he worked the hours everyone said he did, that means not only was he drinking on the job, he was most-likely drunk at work.
Who will the media blame when he is drunk and kills someone with his car?
The only way McCloughan should ever be allowed back in the NFL is as a speaker to rookies on the dangers of alcoholism.
unprofessional that they mentioned it at all
Booze wasn’t the problem as i understand…Skins’ president wanted to be the GM, they use the booze to railroad him. Look at the dysfunctionality with their QB, says he won’t even negotiate a deal if Bruce Allen is there.
Thats what some DC beat reporters are saying anyway. Problem Skins have is that McCloughan has a lot of friends in the league and has earned a lot of respect, which means that people are going to be naturally critical of how things are being handled.
well and their QB issues and their issues pre-scott sort of confirm that version of the story. Look at what he did for that franchise while he was there, it’s unbelievable they’d let him leave.
I would assume McCloughan has grounds to sue the team. You are really not allowed to publicly smear someone like that.
Well Scot didn’t have anything to do with drafting Kirk, that was while he was in Seattle, right?
No, but he was probably instrumental in convincing Snyder to move on from RGIII and actually give Cousins a chance. Which ended the circus atmosphere and let them be a real team.
I give the dude lots of credit, he turned that team into a solid roster. Just not any credit in that area at all.
McCloughan was hired in January 2015. It was the 2015 preseason where RGIII was still the presumed starter, with all of the circus still there. And it was during that preseason that they completely benched RGIII (turning him into a safety on the scout team, if memory serves), and handing the reins to Cousins. *Somebody* had to convince Snyder to allow that after investing so much in him — maybe it was Gruden, but as the new, outsider voice, you suspect McCloughan had a lot to do with that. Gruden clearly wanted to play Cousins, but even in early August 2015 he was still having to make public statements about going forward with RGIII. It’s hard to imagine Gruden alone changing Snyder’s mind. It’s hard to believe Bruce Allen (who engineered the RGIII trade) was the voice of sanity.
Ok ok. You make a good argument my friend!
This article was written 3 1/2 weeks before he was hired by the Redskins. It might make you think otherwise.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12014699/scot-mccloughan-nfl-best-talent-scout-self-employed-living-farm
Good story. Doesn’t really change my perception.
He is an alcoholic. His alcoholism is not the reason he’s being fired.
This assumes you buy what Chris Cooley was selling. Yes, alcoholism is destructive. It’s also terribly destructive and unfair to accuse recovering alcoholics of falling off the wagon if it’s not true and you’re just trying to cover your ass.
At this point, I’m willing to give Scot the benefit of the doubt over the shitstain WFT, given its long and tawdry history.
I could be wrong about this, but isn’t it illegal to fire someone with “alcoholism” as cause?
DC is an “employment-at-will” district. Unless he was in rehab, they could fire him at any time and for any reason.
DC isn’t. VA is until the process of that being voted out last elections goes on. If that is the same thing as “right to work”. Team facility in VA.
Not according to this.
http://www.blr.com/HR-Employment/Performance-Termination/Termination-with-Discharge-in-District-of-Columbia
Yeah that is something different than right to work. As far as I know though Skins have sites in MD and VA. Don’t know of anything in the district. Not sure what laws would apply to him.
My bad, sometimes I forget that not all teams are located in the city or state of their team name…Those darn NJ Jets/Giants and Santa Clara 49ers. Now I’m curious to know how many NFL teams are not actually located in the city or state of their team name.
Gillette is actually like 45 min from Boston, in the middle of no where. Played a tournament there, and stayed in Boston..mistake.
But technically it’s still New England. The Eagles we’re almost going to be in Conshohocken when they were looking for a site to build the Linc.
I don’t think it was voted out in VA. The referendum was whether to enshrine the employment-at-will law in the constitution, making it harder to change, which failed — but it’s still the (long-standing) law.
Seems you are right. I didn’t even know it was up for vote until election night. Working just over the potomac from Georgetown, for a union, it was really interesting. The wording was confusing though, one of my VA resident coworkers wasn’t actually sure if he had voted for or against his interest.
Funny no stories have been leaked about his intoxication at work. After work he can drink 3 bottles of Jamison. As long as he comes to work and performs as he does what he does after work, of it doesn’t violate his contract, is none of their concern.
The assertion by reporters is that Skins are dishonest. If it was actually for cause the timing seems convenient.
Yes, it was well known at the time he was hired. It obviously cost him a job with the Seahawks, etc. But there hasn’t been a mention about anything serious related to that during his tenure, and in particular no leaked news about any particular incident which the Redskins could point to as a reason.
There has been plenty of evidence of friction between him and Allen, and it probably came to ahead over Cousins. And it sounds like Allen won that power struggle. The alcohol stuff sure feels like it was more of a smear job to distract away from the real reasons, which is I’m sure what most are questioning. It’s always possible there was an incident, of course. But it feels more like a misleading leak to focus attention elsewhere, something of a smear job. A more mundane power struggle seems most likely.
Dont toss your Agholar jersies out y’all. . Just tape over the new name .. ill make the new namw tape for anyone
Nah, we’re not Browns fans owning a QB jersey. Thanks.
Do we even have CB on the roster at this point?
Mills, Brooks
Mills, Brooks (probably gonna be cut once he gets healthy), CJ Smith, Grymes, the CFL dude.
So, no?
Who’s the cb to target in wave two??
Webster, Broncos.
Yes!
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/840352430437105664
Carroll on Alshon? Yes please.
Carroll on anybody, even Ags…Yes please.
Ags would bobble the ball and Carroll would pick it off.
Oh Snap! It’s a 3 year deal! Ags may have learned to catch the ball by then.
AJ vs Nolan Caroll. Can’t wait. LolCowboys
Paying for all that eagles knowledge
https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/840360890402799620
Certainly not what New Orleans claimed he was worth.
Cooks running underneath Gronk’s up the seam routes are going to be filthy.
Like literally running between his legs, ah the ole Trojan Horse offense. Yes it will probably be pretty sweaty and unsanitary
Or smell like greatness and some chicks from the Gronk party boat.
The rich get richer.
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/rwtb/rwtbdibiase.jpg
God I hate Belichick with everything I have but damn do I respect the man.
It’s his pact with Satan that makes it all possible.
The real kicker is when he is done coaching, he’ll trade some second rate special teamer to Cleveland in exchange for a soul to satisfy his debt to Satan.
And how is it that you are so familiar with the ways of the evil ones?
So Rowe won’t get the 50% of snaps or whatever it is we needed him to for the higher pick either
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/840363520780845057
Cleveland’s whole draft to New England for Jimmy G?
Kind Early would have been nice
Is this what we sound like after a signing?
http://www.12up.com/posts/4700267-breaking-cowboys-reportedly-poach-star-cornerback-away-from-rival?a_aid=41091
“star cornerback” “playmaker”
lmao
Reads like a Breitbart article
Fun question. Would the Patriots be a dynasty if they didn’t get 4-6 free games playing in the AFC East? How do you think they would have faired in the NFC East since their superbowls?
are you trolling….he’s got 4 rings and played NFC teams to get em…
Lost 2 should have been 3 to NFC East teams….
They play some of the crappiest teams in football 2 games a season each. Def increases the odds sure you have to win a few games at from the division.
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The only division that would have been able to deny the Patriots more than a couple playoff appearances in the past 15 years is the AFC North, I’m actually kinda of sad that there isn’t a 3 way rivalry between the Ravens, Steelers and Patriots now
Would def have decreased their odds
Poor division play is a hallmark of dynasties. It was a big part of the 49ers run in the 80s/90s. Not their fault. But it does make the winners coming out of the NFC East in its heyday that much more impressive.
Harder division = less playoff appearances/less byes = less Superbowls
http://i.imgur.com/z1jbp89.gif
Well plaid.
Bennie Logan visiting Washington, considering one year deals
I know a GM in the NFCE that’s all about them one year deals
Sad
Not Wash!
https://youtu.be/dxV03RVpMz0
He is pretty low key isn’t he.
I am now pretty sure he signed with us to make sure Hicks stops hitting him like that. Wow, was that a pop.
Also, how in the hell does the coach put that on him, “you can run with it” nonsense? He beat Mills by three steps and had to stop and wait for the jump ball to arrive.