Twitter Hints

Posted: March 6th, 2017 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 289 Comments »

Players on Twitter is a good and bad thing. This time of the year it can be a confusing thing.

Interesting, huh?

Pryor’s agent is Drew Rosenhaus, who you might remember is on very good terms with Howie Roseman. If the Eagles were going to reach an unofficial deal with someone before free agency begins, a Rosenhaus client would certainly make sense.

The Eagles want to give Carson Wentz weapons. Pryor would certainly fall into that category. The Eagles want young players around Wentz. Pryor turns 28 in June so that’s not ideal, but his size, speed and ability are worth taking a chance on. He was 232 pounds at his Pro Day and ran in the low 4.4 range. You put on the game tape and see a terrific athlete and gifted receiver. He’s a bit raw since he’s still learning how to play WR, but you can teach him the subtleties of the position. You can’t teach talent, which he’s got plenty of.

I would love for the Eagles to sign Pryor. There is some risk involved, but he would immediately upgrade the WR position and he’s got the potential to play at a high level. He was 77-1007-4 for the 1-15 Browns, with Cody Kessler, Josh McCown and RG3 as his starting QBs. You can bet that Pryor would be pretty excited about having Wentz throw the ball to him.

While there is some interesting evidence, do remember that this is all conjecture. We don’t know anything yet.


So what’s going on with Brandin Cooks?

There was a report on Saturday that the Patriots offered pick 32 for Cooks and a pick to be given back. The Saints turned that down and the rumor mill had them demanding a mid-1st rounder for Cooks. The Eagles do have pick 14…

Things got weird on Sunday.

Mike Thomas just had a great year for the Saints. Is there a beef between him and Cooks?


Maybe not.

I don’t know enough about these guys and this situation to know if this is a weird feud or just everyone reading into a tweet by a player.

The perception is that there is an issue and that will hurt the Saints ability to pull off a deal. If other teams think the Saints have to trade Cooks, that lowers his value. They can demand a 1st or mid-1st all they want, but other teams will be patient and wait for the price to drop.

The Eagles reportedly want to add a couple of weapons for Wentz so it is possible they could sign Pryor and deal for Cooks. I wouldn’t say that is likely, mind you.

Cooks does make a ton of sense for the Eagles because of his age and his skill set. ChipWagon wrote a terrific piece on why Cooks would be such a good fit. The key to all of this is that the Eagles have options. They can sign someone. They can make a trade. They still have the draft. The Eagles will add a couple of talented WRs. Wentz will have a better set of weapons in 2017.

Free agency starts on the 9th so we’ll find out some of the moves this week.


We’ve already discussed trading Daniel. That makes sense, if the right offer comes along.

Matthews is a new topic, but there is some sense to this. He is the Eagles best WR. There is no disputing that. His future is the issue. Matthews is entering the final year of his deal. The Eagles would love to keep him around, at the right price. Unfortunately he may want more money than the Eagles think he’s worth. If the team spends big money on outside receivers, they’ll want someone cheap in the slot.

The Eagles are keeping their options open.


289 Comments on “Twitter Hints”

  1. 1 Twitter Hints - said at 12:29 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Players on Twitter is a good and bad thing. This time of the year it can be a confusing thing. […]

  2. 2 Tumtum said at 12:37 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Good stuff Tommy. You are really on top of this off season that is just under way.

    I have previously insinuated that I might root for a new team should Pryor be signed. While I do think he is the best WR on the market his age, and character are a real issue for me. More his character than anything (especially since im older than he is). There have been some pretty terrible stories told about him. Of course stories were not told from his perspective.

    If he refutes it, ok. I would give him a chance. If he owns it…i immediately gain a ton ld respect. If it goes ignored…ill have mixed emotions every time he makes a play.

    Purely from a football standpoint I think is safe money. Way more safe than Jeffery. He just hasn’t earned those dollars. Here is to hoping he doesn’t get that much.

    Can’t wait until Thursday!

  3. 3 laeagle said at 1:07 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’ve asked on here about Pryor stories, and was very politely instructed to consult with the Google about him. I can’t say I found anything conclusive or truly juicy. Here’s what I found, but please, others tell me if I’m missing something or I haven’t mastered the art of searching through Cleveland sports archives:

    * Pryor was not well loved by his OSU teammates. One (who is a notorious talker and former drinker) said he’s the worst. I think we all knew he was cocky at OSU as the QB. I think that’s pretty well confirmed.
    * Evidently he was pretty cocky as a young QB in the NFL as well. People didn’t like him early on, either.
    * His current teammates explain away the hate by saying he used to be a QB, and people don’t like that. I can’t tell if they like him or not, but they’re certainly going out of their way to try to explain things _about_ him. Can’t tell if that’s a “he’s my teammate so I can’t say anything bad about him” or “he’s my teammate and people don’t understand him” thing.
    * Those same teammates talk about how hard he works. Typical “first guy in last guy out stuff”. But it actually seems true, since he was learning a new position, and evidently took it seriously.
    * Current opponents HATE him. CBs in particular. We’ve all see this (the “garbage” comments coming from Captain Make-It-Rain himself, for example). That can be bad or it can be fun. 🙂

    There is a chance that he was humbled by the league and worked his ass off as a result. He took the high road with his hating opponents. I don’t know if this guy is a changed man from his arrogant roots, or just biding his time before he goes all “Big Ern” on his next team. I honestly don’t know what to think but I’m sure that if the Eagles sign him, I’ll find a way to spin it all positively to myself.

  4. 4 DrGeniusPhD said at 1:11 AM on March 6th, 2017:

  5. 5 Anders said at 2:04 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I 100% hate the book smart =equal bad person of the field. I know many people who would score very low in that test and I trust their decision making way more than majority of nfl players

  6. 6 anon said at 4:10 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Bob McGinn is a dick, says more about OSU as a university than about TP as a person.

  7. 7 Fufina said at 6:20 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Wonderlic is not an IQ test, if anything it is a processing speed test as you have to answer questions so fast. For example i have a 130+ IQ score, but score 20’s in the Wonderlic because im dyslexic and struggle to read the questions fast enough accurately.

    Low Wonderlic scores generally mean you have some kind of reading difficulty, or poor preparation where you do not skip the more time consuming questions.

  8. 8 Dave said at 8:23 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Serious question, do you meet most of the symptoms of dyslexia, or just some? I assume you were diagnosed as a child?

  9. 9 Anders said at 9:25 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    My GF cant get help with her reading problems because she spells and write too well.

  10. 10 Sean Stott said at 12:58 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    The Wonderlic is a great proxy for an IQ test.

    I’m doubting you got a 130 on a real IQ test, because any IQ test is also time limited, to the point that you will have to end up skipping questions to optimize your score. Also, an IQ test will have lots of reading comprehension baked-in. In the end, you want a test whose scores fit on a normal curve. Both the Wonderlic and the most common IQ test (Stanford-Binet) accomplish this.

  11. 11 Anders said at 2:05 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    The Pryor stuff is really weird

  12. 12 Dominik said at 11:21 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    If correct (not by you, but from his teammates), that would be a positive biggie:

    * Those same teammates talk about how hard he works. Typical “first guy in last guy out stuff”. But it actually seems true, since he was learning a new position, and evidently took it seriously.

    T.O. was a total douche, but you could deal with him because he worked as hard as anybody. And teammates respect that, too. Without that hard work, he wouldn’t have been as productive as he’s been, also. The real sin is laziness. And I’m not making that a moral statement (I’m lazy, myself), but as a professional athlete you simply cannot be lazy.

  13. 13 Tumtum said at 12:10 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Dont disagree at all that he works hard. I have shared a bunch of links in the past but here is 1 or 2:

    the hate by team mates has followed him since before college and into the NFL. This is a big deal to me. Just because Megatron is a bad ass bad guy who can kill any Autobot 1v1, doesn’t mean I want to cheer for him. Lots of people would. Imma cheer for the good guy.

  14. 14 增达网 said at 12:44 AM on March 6th, 2017:


  15. 15 Insomniac said at 4:12 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d be amazed if we could get significant value for Matthews. A 3rd is a steal and a 4th would still be amazing value for a WR of Matthews caliber. Matthews’s value is at the highest it can be right now so get it done Howie.

  16. 16 anon said at 5:04 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    if matthews can’t get a deal who can, what a difference from last year when everyone got deals.

  17. 17 kajomo said at 10:40 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I hate Jordan Matthews. A WR with unreliable hands is useless to me. Add in the fact that he is a slot guy and his stupid try hard attitude. The guy hasn’t improved at all since he entered the league. This guys should not be on the eagles in 2018. If we can get anything decent for him ship him out.

  18. 18 SteveH said at 4:50 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    It’s weird to be talking about shipping off draft picks when we were scrambling to replace the ones we lost in the Wentz deal.

    It would be painful to strait up trade #14 for Cooks, but maybe it’s worth it? Hard to say.

  19. 19 Fufina said at 5:41 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I would just take Ross at 14 (as long as his health checked out) rather than trading 14 for Cooks. He has higher upside and is significantly cheaper in the medium term.

    I like Cooks as a player, but he has not been elite with Drew Brees throwing to him and being in a Sean Payton offence. He is still young and has significant upside still but that is the reality. I would argue he has matched his draft positions value not exceeded it, and in his contracts context that means it is really tough to get back that kind of value.

  20. 20 eagleyankfan said at 7:24 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    That’s the crux isn’t it? There have been 1000’s of college players with “higher upside” that fall flat on their face…no guarantees….That no guarantee thing is also for Cooks. As you stated – if you can’t be elite with Brees…..

  21. 21 Anders said at 7:27 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Ross might have higher upside, but what are the chance he reaches his upside?

    Just see Agholor, had a very good grade by most NFL teams coming out, yet has falling flat on his face

  22. 22 meteorologist said at 10:35 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    He has huge injury questions and even injured himself on that record setting 40!

  23. 23 GermanEagle said at 10:37 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    That’s normal. I always hurt myself when trying to run too fast..

  24. 24 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:41 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    He got a cramp lol

  25. 25 Anders said at 2:06 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    What does it say about him that he gets a cramp don just running? I love his talent and think he is a better talent than Jackson but his injury history is scary

  26. 26 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 2:23 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    It says he wasnt properly hydrated or warmed up.

  27. 27 Anders said at 2:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    How can you not be hydrated or warm up correct when you are a professional athlete? It’s not like he had been playing for hours in 100 degrees.

    Some guys like Ryan mathews, vick miles Austin are always injured

  28. 28 bill said at 3:06 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    So … for what might be the most important performance of his life so far … he didn’t prepare properly?

  29. 29 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 4:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Gosh… overreaction Monday

  30. 30 Sb2bowl said at 10:39 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Saints offense is also predicated with spreading the ball around to multiple players; Cooks got upset (from what I’ve seen) because he was being used as a clear out option more than he would prefer. I’m sure some of that had to do with knowing that he’s coming up on a new contract, and he’ll want to inflate his numbers as much as possible.

    I look at it this way– is it worth giving up a 1st for a proven, 3 year starter in the NFL who is only 23 years old, as opposed to drafting a guy that has never played a down in the NFL? Probably. With Cooks, you basically know what you are getting, and he’s young. He’s played with a HoF QB, a great head coach, and he’s productive.

  31. 31 kajomo said at 10:37 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    No way we give 14 for Cooks. I still think a 2nd and a 4th gets it done. Throw Kebdricks in if needed.

  32. 32 Tom33 said at 6:32 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’ve never been a huge fan of Howie, but if he can trade Daniel and that contract I will never criticize him again. I really can’t believe anybody would want to pay him $8 mil per year…

  33. 33 GermanEagle said at 7:20 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    The Eagles would..

  34. 34 Forthebirds said at 10:11 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Maybe the Eagles would have to pick up part of the salary. If it’s 2-3mill it’s still worth saving 5.

  35. 35 A_T_G said at 6:46 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    If Cooks ends up in Philly, I hope him tweeting Drake lyrics doesn’t cause any awkwardness with Meek Mills.

  36. 36 GermanEagle said at 7:10 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Trading someone who can’t keep his feet inbounds for someone quicker in the slot makes sense. However this would also mean to get three new starters at WR in one off season. Unless you are projecting Ags starting…*sigh

  37. 37 eagleyankfan said at 7:25 AM on March 6th, 2017:


  38. 38 GermanEagle said at 7:47 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Additional costs. Draft Resources and money wise. Also all three new starters would have to learn the playbook. Just ask DGB..

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 7:49 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Don’t ask DGB. He needs to focus.

  40. 40 eagleyankfan said at 7:57 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Plenty of time to learn the play book. Wentz-elmania isn’t ready yet. I’d be thrilled with 2 new starters and JM. Worry about JM next year…

  41. 41 kajomo said at 10:35 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    This is such a dumb argument. DGB missed OTAs, minicamps, and half of training camp with us. He is also not known as the sharpest tool in the shed. Any veteran WR we bring in will have plenty of time.

  42. 42 GermanEagle said at 10:36 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Dumbness is in the eye of the beholder.

  43. 43 kajomo said at 10:43 AM on March 6th, 2017:


  44. 44 eagleyankfan said at 7:33 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    T-Law keeping America Great with his reporting/writing. Prior is old(er) and possibly more raw. I don’t like his foot work in that clip — but that’s why the Eagles signed a guru as a WR coach(hoping). Since he hasn’t been a WR forever, does that count as ‘young legs’? :). I don’t know if it would be irony or not — Trade JM but keep NA. The horror.

  45. 45 GermanEagle said at 7:53 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Someone would think the Eagles would never do this! Similar to the Thought the Sixers would never trade Noel and keep Okafor instead, right?! Oh wait…

  46. 46 eagleyankfan said at 8:01 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d wonder if it’s by attrition….Sounds like Eagles are looking for 2 new starters. Assumption would be to say good bye to NA and DGB. However, nobody would want them LOL. Easier to move JM? Hmmm, going to be interesting…

  47. 47 Dave said at 8:20 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    If the Eagles are not looking to sign Mathews to an extension after his rookie contract is complete, it makes sense to get something for him in a deep WR draft.

  48. 48 P_P_K said at 9:47 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    It also provides the conclusion that Mathews is a disappointment.

  49. 49 Rellihcs said at 10:41 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Which accomplishes nothing other than useless fodder for fans to bash the front office – which is a waste of energy.

  50. 50 P_P_K said at 11:59 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I liked the pick and I won’t bash the FO over this one. I’ve been supportive of Jordan and I hold out hope this will be his breakout year. If he continues only at his current level of performance, though, I’ll think of him as a disappointment.

  51. 51 P_P_K said at 8:50 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’m getting tired of upvoting you but you’re on a role.

  52. 52 GermanEagle said at 9:50 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Ha. Thank you, sir.

  53. 53 Tdoteaglefan said at 8:05 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Speaking of social media clues…on friday kendricks posted a pic of himself wearing an LA dodgers hat with a smirk emoji. People have been saying its a sign he may be moved to the chargers or rams. Or it could be a case of using the LA to signify louisiana…speculation continues.

    I found that howie never makes the move that everybody expects..and makes a deal that catches everybody by surprise.what would people think of a deal with another team we’ve dealt a lot with in the past..the houston texans. Hopkins has been unhappy for a while and his contract is up this year. The texans have a need for a speedy inside backer and almost made a deal for jamie collins last year. It seems like a deal that might make sense

  54. 54 D3FB said at 8:14 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    He’s from Fresno.

  55. 55 Gary Barnes said at 9:31 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I would not trade #14 for Cooks or any WR that is not elite level talent. I continue to believe WR is not a primary position and thus not one that deserves that high level of investment and would likely not lead to production of enough significance to justify said investment. I think CB, DE, OL (mainly OT or C) and QB are primary positions.

    I would trade a 2nd rd pick for a WR that fits the elements of the Eagles offensive scheme and team philosophy (character, work ethic, age etc.). I’m not sure if Cooks or any WR checks those boxes because myself at least do not know what the elements are the Eagles value highest or even if they have them defined as part of an overall strategic approach.

    I hope they are looking seriously at CB and DE in particular. An elite and dominant defense helps Wentz develop and win games a lot and those are the main weak spots on the defense. If we can upgrade the CB position, that would help fortify our coverage and again give our pass rush more chance to get to the QB. CB is the biggest need on the roster IMO. If we can replace Barwin, push Curry and partner with Graham a good DE, that would also help our pass rush and coverage.

    Getting another good OT to maximize the chances of a smooth transition from Peters would also be very smart. I know WR are splashy signings and we do need better WR options for Wentz to work with, but the reality is we have limited cap space and need to prioritize IMO.

  56. 56 Tdoteaglefan said at 9:31 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Humphrey just ran 4.41

  57. 57 meteorologist said at 9:32 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Corey Davis… A better Jordan Matthews?

    “COREY DAVIS, WR, Western Michigan: 6-3, 209. Similar in many ways to Williams. “He’s more fluid than Michael Irvin was,” said one scout. “Works hard. Loves football. Smart (31 on the Wonderlic intelligence test). Attacks the football. Concentrates in traffic. Got vertical tracking skills.” Four-year starter with 326 receptions in an emerging program. “He’s good, but he’s not like some of the top guys from the past few years,” another scout said. “He’s like the kid from the Eagles (Jordan Matthews). Little better hands. He’s a big, strong guy who can catch the ball really well.””

  58. 58 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:35 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I dont see the comparison. I see Cooper Kupp as a Jordan Matthews with good hands more than Davis

  59. 59 Rellihcs said at 10:37 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    You’re getting way too caught up in reading text when making that comparison in my opinion.

  60. 60 meteorologist said at 10:38 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I didn’t make the comparison, team executives did

  61. 61 Sb2bowl said at 10:26 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Cooks is the cost control option that we are looking for this year- but he’s going to take resource(s) away from the draft. Pryor won’t cost draft picks, but he will hurt us with our very limited financial resources.

    At this stage, it’s a pick ’em. Cooks is small, but very explosive (does he remind anyone else of a taller Sproles?). Pryor has a huge catch radius and has speed for his size, but lacks the quick twitch change of direction offered by the former.

    Question– Are there any other WR’s in the NFL that could be in a potential trade market? The Eagles seem hell bent on adding talent (and rightfully so) for Wentz and the offense, but we will have to get creative with what can be allocated this year and next.

  62. 62 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:29 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Pryor doesn’t have speed for his size… the guy is legit fast.

    Id still rather have Cooks over Pryor if that’s the choice.

  63. 63 Sb2bowl said at 10:31 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Agreed, but he’s a “different” fast when compared to Cooks. I mean, they guy is 6-7″ taller, so that will change his get up and go gear.

    How about any other potential WR’s on the market that could be possible options in a trade? We’ve seen reports that Howie wants weapons for Wentz, but I haven’t seen possible names floated (then again, this time of year everyone is an option).

  64. 64 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 10:40 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Pryor turned in a 4.3 on his pro day. That might be a low 4.4 at the combine. He’s still in Julio territory. Hard to be upset about stuff like that.

    I like Cooks because I think hes better than Pryor, not just faster.

    I would be ok with quite a few of the FA options and a draft pick or 2.

  65. 65 Sb2bowl said at 10:43 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’m a fan of Cooks as well; I’d even give up our 1st this year for their 2nd next year for him. If it came to choosing one or the other, I’d go with Cooks over Pryor- though I do think that Pryor would fit Wentz a little bit better (bigger catch radius, larger target).

    Going to be an interesting few days, that’s for sure.

  66. 66 Bert's Bells said at 10:49 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d ask “is there first round talent that projects to contribute what Cooks has done?” when the Eagles are on the clock.

    That’s a big question mark, obviously. But if the board is full of “maybes”, I do the deal.

    Kind of like trading a first for Jason Peters.

  67. 67 Sb2bowl said at 10:59 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    That was a hell of a trade by the Birds back then, and even better foresight to get value for the upcoming year.

    You are correct; to me, Davis has a lot of upside and won’t be terribly expensive. But he’s a rookie. And development takes time; Howie has said as much, which makes me believe that they may just consider the 14th pick with a return of something next year from NO.

    Ross seems like a ticking time bomb on the injury front; Williams is the most accomplished WR on the big stage, but he doesn’t strike me as a game changer. Davis has that potential. Cooks is already there.

    Would you trade our first this year and Kendricks for Cooks and their 3rd next year?

  68. 68 Fufina said at 12:15 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Eagles drafted later (28th) in that draft and the draft was not as talented. Add in the fact that Peters was a legit top 5 player at his position, and had the ability to become the best player at his position – neither of which are the case with Cooks.

    Having said that Peters also go paid for that production immediately while Cooks will be cheaper initially (even if they extend him).

  69. 69 Bert's Bells said at 3:03 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Legit consideration.

    Still, if the Eagles think there’s not a guy on the board as talented as Cooks (or some other player that’s available) it’s a good idea to deal for him.

  70. 70 A Roy said at 12:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d rather have Pryor and keep our draft pick than Cooks without it…even if it’s a 2.

  71. 71 GordonGekko said at 10:54 AM on March 10th, 2017:

    Because you are a dumbFUCK.

  72. 72 Sean Stott said at 12:24 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Pryor is a straight up burner. The 40 yard dash belies his true speed because he has a second gear, like Desean.

  73. 73 Ryan Rambo said at 11:58 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    I would love to have Tyrell Williams. (Chargers)

  74. 74 Sb2bowl said at 12:59 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Not really familiar with him, but Rivers makes even a shitty WR look good.

  75. 75 Ryan Rambo said at 2:17 PM on March 6th, 2017:

  76. 76 Sb2bowl said at 2:40 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    If I were the Chargers, I wouldn’t get rid of him.

  77. 77 Ryan Rambo said at 2:44 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  78. 78 Ryan Rambo said at 2:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

  79. 79 kajomo said at 11:00 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Jordan Willis was the star of the day yesterday. I’m not sure that explosiveness translates into the field though. I thought Tarrel Basham and Charles Harris had great days. Larry Ogunjobi looked really athletic and could be a good Bennie replacement.

    Taco Charlton really disappointed. For a guy so raw his athleticism is his best trait. Really thought he would perform better. Definitely cost himself some money. Also surprised Tim Williams didn’t time better.

    This is an incredible DB class. Even though not a major need I think we can get a major steal at safety this year in the mid rounds.

  80. 80 Sb2bowl said at 11:33 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    That’s an underrated need; Jenkins will be 30 and our depth sucks. We saw what 2 injuries could do to our secondary last year, and we are 1 bad break from Watkins playing major minutes. No thanks.

  81. 81 meteorologist said at 11:00 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    For the people that are skeptical about cooks… Didn’t you read the chipwagon post?

    He’d be a tremendous addition and we won’t be giving our 1st round pick with the Saints losing leverage by the day

  82. 82 GermanEagle said at 11:52 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Lattimore with a 4.36. He will be long gone before Eagles are on the clock.

  83. 83 Tdoteaglefan said at 11:53 AM on March 6th, 2017:


  84. 84 A_T_G said at 11:57 AM on March 6th, 2017:


  85. 85 kajomo said at 11:59 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    Fabian Moreau killed his 40 as well. I’m starting to like the idea of trading back in round 1. With so many good CBs why not?

  86. 86 A_T_G said at 12:00 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    We could have the island of Dr. Moreau.

  87. 87 Mitchell said at 12:15 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Really wish their was more on draftbreakdown to watch him by. I don’t have a good read at all but his time is impressive for his size.

  88. 88 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:06 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I can be ok with Jones or Conely at 14

  89. 89 GermanEagle said at 12:09 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Tabor with a 4.63 only. That’s Teez Nuts!!!

  90. 90 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:10 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I really want Adore in the 2nd

  91. 91 GermanEagle said at 12:11 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    This must also be the year of great names…!

  92. 92 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 12:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  93. 93 GermanEagle said at 1:05 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Run Forrest Lamp!

  94. 94 RC5000 said at 2:16 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    He’s more of an off coverage corner…similar to Kyle Fuller the way he plays. While I thought Schwartz played a good amount of zone and sometimes had the corners in off coverage, they interviewed a lot of more press / island corners.

    He made a comment that he got better this year for the check. He said something like Interceptions get you the money. Still in 2nd round maybe if they think he fits the scheme.

    I have to say Schwartz runs a lot of different coverages that I don’t know exactly who his ideal CB is. Probably a guy like Sidney Jones?

  95. 95 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 2:27 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Im not sure we have a shot at Jones. But if he’s there 14 Howie should be all over that

  96. 96 RC5000 said at 2:34 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Jones is a different type of CB than Jackson.

  97. 97 Mitchell said at 12:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    That’s rough, so much for “best player in the draft.”

  98. 98 Mitchell said at 12:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Probably a bit early for Conley at 14, IMO.

  99. 99 Anders said at 2:04 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Give me Sidney Jones or Humphrey

  100. 100 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:08 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Yeah, those are my two favorites as well

  101. 101 Mitchell said at 3:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  102. 102 SteveH said at 2:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    4.36? Crazy.

  103. 103 xmbk said at 2:36 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  104. 104 GermanEagle said at 11:55 AM on March 6th, 2017:

    According to Joe Banner the legal tampering means absolutely nothing as most deals are already done by NOW..!

    Which means we shall have a better knowledge of our future Eagles by tomorrow already. Cannot wait…!

  105. 105 Sb2bowl said at 12:35 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Remember last year when everyone was freaking out because we thought Miami would back out of the Kiko/Maxwell trade after it was leaked?
    From what I can gather, the Combine is just the confirmation of deals already agreed upon, and an opportunity to establish other relationships with potential business partners in the future.

  106. 106 GermanEagle said at 1:04 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Unless you’re called Al frigging Gore.

  107. 107 Sb2bowl said at 1:07 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  108. 108 GermanEagle said at 1:24 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Don’t you remember when RB Gore agreed to a contract in principle with the Eagles before dropping out last minute?!

  109. 109 Sb2bowl said at 1:25 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Ahh… I thought this had something to do with Global Warming in Miami and we were going to blame Kiko.

    My apologies. I do remember when he was going to transform our RB’s into a monster; unfortunately that monster turned out to be Murray and he sucked.

  110. 110 Corry said at 1:26 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    That was FRANK Gore. Al Gore is the former Vice President who invented the internet.

  111. 111 GermanEagle said at 2:02 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Lol. Blame it on too much politics on my Facebook timeline!!!

  112. 112 SteveH said at 2:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I think that leak ended up costing us a draft pick.

  113. 113 Mitchell said at 12:16 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Expected Howard Wilson to run faster than high 4.5’s. Seems to play faster in game however he may just be quicker than fast and his competition may just be slower.

  114. 114 Mitchell said at 12:18 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    If the Eagles go corner in the first, personally, I would like Jones, Humphrey and (if they feel confident they can coach him up) Lattimore.

  115. 115 Fufina said at 12:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Watching this group i want us to keep our 2nd round pick. There are legit 1st round CB’s in any other draft that will be there at 43 for us.

    So much talent at so many positions and considering there are probably 5 QB’s who will go before that pick.. there is some serious talent.

  116. 116 Mitchell said at 12:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Heard that brother but IDK about getting too caught up in draft picks. You know how fickle they can be. However, I do enjoy the idea of going CB 1-2.

  117. 117 Sb2bowl said at 12:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Spot on- what’s the success percentages of draft picks? In round 2, it fluctuates between 35-40% of staying in the league past 3.5 years.

  118. 118 Sb2bowl said at 12:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    With the depth and us drafting at 14, I could see us dropping down 4-5 spots and finding similar value depending on how the board shakes out (won’t know until draft night). Even then, while I don’t love the idea of a 2 for Cooks, we’d be foolish to not make the deal.

  119. 119 James Skip Carl said at 9:07 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    we should swap our first for the saints second, then we can go back to back in the second round

  120. 120 Sb2bowl said at 9:47 AM on March 7th, 2017:

    Not a bad idea; I’ve floated our first this year for their 2nd next year as a possible contingency plan– not sure where they are with the value of Cooks, but it seems like he’s out of NO one way or the other.

  121. 121 xmbk said at 2:35 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Agreed, but Cooks counts as serious talent as well.

  122. 122 Sean Stott said at 12:20 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Charles Robinson is another dude on Twitter who has way less connections than he implies. In fact, I don’t think he has any inside information.

  123. 123 Sean Stott said at 12:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    WR stuff –

    Pryor legitimately uses ‘1’s in place if ‘i’s in his tweets, because his number is 11.

    One thing I didn’t think about with Cooks is that if we don’t restructure his deal immediately, his cap hits are pretty tolerable given our situation.

    Get rid of JMatt. I don’t care how good or bad you look on the majority of plays, if you insist on dropping game winning and drive-continuing passes. It’s not even close to worth it. Gimme Cole Beasley over this dude.

  124. 124 Fufina said at 12:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I would rather have a WR who gets open and drops 5% of passes than someone who catches everything and gets open significantly less. JMatts drops last year were maddening since they killed big plays at key moments. But there is a degree of regression with that – next year he will catch all those passes and drop a couple on 1st down that don’t mean anywhere near as much.

    Matthews catch rate is near the league average (although to be fair he does not get deep much which lowers the rate), and his drop rate while high is only about 1.5% above the league average. Is that annoying? yes. Does he need to work on it and improve? yes. Is it a huge problem.. not really.

  125. 125 anon said at 1:47 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    what kind of deal are you giving him?

  126. 126 Fufina said at 2:37 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    8m a year seems fair to me if you do it this year. Which less than 5% of the cap which is fair for a starting no.2 WR

  127. 127 eagleyankfan said at 3:04 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Are you saying you’re ok with him as a number 1 WR?

  128. 128 Anders said at 2:02 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Cooks is under team control for 3 years if you are willing to use the tag on him

  129. 129 Sean Stott said at 2:08 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    That’s kinda my issue with him, he’s not good enough to get WR Franchise Tag money

  130. 130 Anders said at 2:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    We have two more years to determine that

  131. 131 Ryan Rambo said at 12:25 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Appearing on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., the Washington Post’s Mike Jones stated the Redskins and GM Scot McCloughan are “headed to a divorce.”
    Jones essentially stated that Jay Gruden’s two-year extension was a P.R. move amid organizational chaos. “And that’s the sad thing, because Scot is such a good dude,” said Jones. “Loves football. Eats, drinks, sleeps it. You talk to guys who’ve worked with him in the league, and all he does is watch football and unfortunately drink. There’s frictions that are going on there between him and (team president) Bruce Allen … some type of blowup. This thing is headed to a divorce.” Jones guessed McCloughan’s exit will be made official after April’s draft.

  132. 132 Tumtum said at 12:30 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Good ole dead skins.

  133. 133 Fufina said at 12:47 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Thought they had started to look like a proper NFL organisation. Nice to see them returning back to their true Skins nature. Really hope Jerah decided to return to GM duties this year with a mind to get them ready for a Super Bowl run…

  134. 134 Sb2bowl said at 12:31 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Cooley said something about McCloughan drinking again a bit ago; sad to hear, especially if he has a problem (which it sounds like he does). Dude can put a football team together, when he was running the draft they hit on some picks. Hope he gets it figured out, glad he won’t be with Washington anymore.

  135. 135 RobNE said at 3:58 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Hated to see the Washington football team get on the right path but was glad to hear Scott had pulled himself together. Awful disease that has probably affected someone in all our lives, often ending tragically. So same way on the back end, I like to see Wash. make mistakes again but really, not at this cost. I hope the best for him.

  136. 136 Sb2bowl said at 4:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Spot on

  137. 137 Ryan Rambo said at 12:38 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Appearing on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., the Washington Post’s Mike Jones referred to NFL Network’s “report” of a three-way trade involving Kirk Cousins, Tony Romo, and the 49ers as “fake.”
    Jones seems to believe Redskins president Bruce Allen used NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport as a mouthpiece to spread the rumor as a misinformation tactic with the Redskins embroiled in front-office drama. Ultimately, the Redskins decided giving Jay Gruden a two-year extension would be better P.R. “Bruce was like, alright we gotta do something because my fake Ian Rapoport Redskins three-way trade thing didn’t work to change the story.” Jones suggested the Redskins are now seen as so dysfunctional NFL agents are wary of their players signing with Washington because they’re unaware of who’s in charge. GM Scot McCloughan did not attend the Combine and is expected to be let go after April’s draft.

  138. 138 anon said at 1:45 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    wowow – it’s like skins don’t want to be successful. Since Scott has been there they’ve been a way more “real” team, made a lot of moves to improve the quality of the players (OL, DL, CB, WR)

  139. 139 A_T_G said at 1:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I am not a scout, nor a big college fan. Shaquill Griffin has a scouting report that says he is long (6’0″), aggressive in coverage and run support and a sure tackler. Thee knock on him is that he lacks long speed. Does a 4.38 in the 40 put that fear to rest?

  140. 140 GermanEagle said at 2:01 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    40 yards are not long enough!!!

  141. 141 Insomniac said at 2:18 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Teez Tabor’s draft stock right now.

  142. 142 A_T_G said at 2:38 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    “I don’t think he’s a lockdown cornerback. He’s a good football player and can cover in our league, but he’s also going to be a pain in the ass for whoever takes him.” — AFC Southest area scout

  143. 143 Insomniac said at 3:03 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I think that guy might be right too.

  144. 144 SteveH said at 2:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    lol, I love this Rich Eisen run thing, and Mike Mayock coaching him up.

  145. 145 Insomniac said at 2:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Anyone want to donate a pair of good hamstrings to this guy? Despite his talent, unfortunately he’s made out of glass.

  146. 146 Sb2bowl said at 2:26 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    McKelvin has one good one

  147. 147 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 2:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    It was a hip flexor, not a hammy

  148. 148 RC5000 said at 2:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Terrelle Pryor is drawing interest from the Giants, 49ers, Titans and Eagles as the free agency two-day negotiating window opens on Tuesday at noon, league sources told

  149. 149 GermanEagle said at 2:30 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Oh please lord not the Giants. OBJ is already enough to deal with..

  150. 150 Ryan Rambo said at 2:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Wentz > Eli

  151. 151 RC5000 said at 2:38 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Yeah and they could take a McCaffrey or Cook if he slides down to them. They could take a TE too. This is a good TE draft.

  152. 152 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 2:52 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Howard to NY would be scary

  153. 153 sonofdman said at 7:31 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    That would suck

  154. 154 RC5000 said at 2:56 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Can they really afford OBJ and him. They might be trying to drive up price for us when I think about it.

  155. 155 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d be more scared if they started adding beast OLineman

  156. 156 anon said at 2:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I sort of thought CLE would have to keep some players in order to meet salary cap mins, no?

  157. 157 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:54 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Anyone know where the Jarvis Landry trade rumor came from?

  158. 158 GermanEagle said at 2:54 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Huh?! What rumors?!

  159. 159 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:56 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I dunno I heard that his name has been added to Brandin Cooks as a possible Eagle trade target when I was at the airport this morning, trying to find out where this originated from

  160. 160 ACViking said at 2:57 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Check the internet.

    I’d wager that’s were you’ll find the origin.

  161. 161 John Galt said at 3:42 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Thank God Al Gore invented the ol interweb

  162. 162 GermanEagle said at 4:27 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I thought it was Frank Gore who invented the WWW. Never mind though..

  163. 163 GermanEagle said at 2:58 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Haven’t heard anything about that. Highly doubt though the Dolphins are getting rid of a top 10 WR…

  164. 164 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:05 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Yeah I thought it was weird too. Im so out of the loop when I heard it I figured people here would have already heard about it. maybe someone included Landrys name instead of Alshon Jeffries as a possible option for Eagles besides Cooks?
    I have a tough time believing jordan Mathews won’t be on this years roster especially over salary cap concerns. How do I believe he is a threat to Price himself out of playing with Wentz in Philly when just last year he had no problem going public saying “Even I know the formula to win is QB, OL, DE, CB and that you don’t need crazy high paid WRs to win”…. And this grounded mature Kid is now a threat to price his way out of playing with Wentz? I’ll believe that when I see it

  165. 165 Insomniac said at 3:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Could have had him instead of Matthews but Chip Kelly happened.

  166. 166 GermanEagle said at 3:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

  167. 167 Ryan Rambo said at 3:05 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Bills released CB Nickell Robey-Coleman.
    The Bills have also cut K Dan Carpenter, LS Garrison Sanborn, TE Gerald Christian and S Phillip Thomas. The Bills’ slot corner since 2013, Robey-Coleman was benched in November. Releasing him creates $1.65 million in cap space. Still only 25, Robey-Coleman has put some good football on film. He will be a part of someone’s 53-man roster in 2017, and quite possibly a starting slot man.

  168. 168 anon said at 4:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  169. 169 Ryan Rambo said at 4:27 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Maybe so! I’d take Roby here as our Nickel.

  170. 170 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:15 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I hate that The first round draft talk is so WR/CB specific. We aren’t two positions away from The playoffs. As much as Id love to get a BIGTIME WR/CB, im more interested in getting Elite Gamebreaking talent at whatever position this draft happens to provide it at. Realistically we will be lucky if there are still 10 kids with legit first round grades available to choose from when we pick, and that number could easily be closer to 3 or 4 first round talents left to choose from.
    At #14 we need to really hit on an elite talent which is so much harder to do if you start limiting yourself to a Specifc position or two. I understand passing on a QB or a Safety, but we could pretty much use more talent everywhere else. Later in the draft we can target positions more but not at #14. You really have to let the board make the pick at #14
    For Example let’s say Rueban Foster’s crazy ass falls to #14 And the Eagles have a 90 grade on him, and The next highest rated players on the board are a WR, a CB and RB all Tied with 83 rating, could we really afford to pass on the LB with the 90 grade? I think we should be strict BPA at #14, and we compromise in the other rounds to target specific FA. Screw The positions we need to add a BIGTIME talent at whatever position we can get

  171. 171 kajomo said at 4:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I think HR has made it very clear that their intent is to go BPA. That is one of the tasks he has given Joe Douglas. Keep them focused on drafting the BPA.

    It just so happens that CB and WR look to present good value at 14. When need matches up to BPA it’s a win/win

  172. 172 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Hopefully two QBs and two Safeties will go top 13 which means we would be getting a top 10 player on our wish list

  173. 173 Tdoteaglefan said at 4:36 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Totally with you man, if there’s a higher rated pass rusher, or Linebacker available I think that’s where we should go (Fosters actually my dream pick)..there are plenty of Db’s available in this draft..and I’ll be way more encouraged if we land some WR’s in free agency so we don’t have to reach for one in the draft. I feel encouraged by having Joe Douglas involved in this process that they’ll stick to the BPA in the draft

  174. 174 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d take top level talent at almost any position with the exception of QB, Safety and maybe TE…. I wouldn’t mind upgrading DE, DT, LB, LG, RT if a player at those positions is better than what’s available at our most obvious needs WR and CB
    We need to increase the overall talent Level of our roster more than we need to address certain positional needs. Obviously it’s a lot easier if the BPA happens to be a CB or WR

  175. 175 Dude said at 12:36 AM on March 7th, 2017:

    OJ is a frickin machine. I take him over nearly any other pick. That is the lone TE I add to your list.

  176. 176 Safety1st said at 5:11 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    If Foster is inexplicably there at #14, they better grab him. He compares to Kuechly . . . with a side of crazy.

  177. 177 anon said at 6:01 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    you gotta hope he’s not a greg olson type of crazy.

  178. 178 sonofdman said at 7:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Agree – got to go BPA in the first round.

  179. 179 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I spent years bitching about Chip Kely not bringing Pryor in for a workout and trying to use his athleticism at WR, and now I’m reading about The Eagles possibly signing him as a Big Money WR…. Just one more reason for me to despise Chip. let me count The ways
    Of course the white Supremist brought Tebow in, but God forbid we give Pryor a close look. SMH… Kind of funny seeing chip who hated the media now stuck trying to get a media job, then again it’s kind of like hiring someone who hates the EPA and Public schools to run the EPA and Public schools… 2017 The Year of the Jack Ass according to the ancient Chinese Calender

  180. 180 ACViking said at 3:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Pryor wasn’t ready to play WR.

  181. 181 RobNE said at 3:56 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    don’t get in our way of blaming Kelly for lots of things. If he hadn’t ignored back up QB in ’91 we’d have a super bowl trophy.

  182. 182 anon said at 4:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    yeah, philly clearly isn’t the place to learn how to be a WR.

  183. 183 Dude said at 12:23 AM on March 7th, 2017:

    As usual, 50/50.

    Surely Chip, Mr. O-Guru, should have had the foresight to look at Pryor. But calling him a white supremacist is just plain garbage.

    And take the politics elsewhere. This is Eagles chat. IDGAF about your, or anyone else’s politics. I come here to read about the Eagles. Please just leave me this one fantastic place to not have to hear about politics. Please.

  184. 184 RobNE said at 3:40 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    so for those of us who don’t know players on other teams that well, and aren’t fully paying attention I’d be interested in people’s opinions of ranking a few moves for Thurs in your order of preference, assuming rational trades and/or FA $$ (don’t ignore what we have to pay). I’m thinking (ignorantly as I admit) that signing Pryor for decent money leaves us our #2 pick in a good draft, so that’s better than trading for Cooks. That sort of thing. Thoughts? In other words what should I be rooting for?

  185. 185 kajomo said at 4:25 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Signing a FA WR leaves you with the 2nd round pick. This allows you to add a young player in the draft.

    Trading for Cooks saves you maybe $7-10mil in 2017 cap space. This allows you to add more through FA.

    I prefer option 2 because I think you can probably trade back in round 1 to recoup some of what was lost on the trade while still being able to make some aggressive moves in FA. I also like Cooks more than any FA WR.

  186. 186 xmbk said at 4:54 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Root for as many options as possible, because that gives Howie a better chance of improving the team. Seriously, there are a lot of moving parts, and it’s hard to say which ones are exclusive. I could see both Cooks and Pryor/Smith/Britt being on the team next year. I think their #1 priority is to develop Wentz. I’d be very surprised if manufactured touches for Agholor happen next year.

  187. 187 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    McManus reporting Eagle interest in Britt… Is that new?

  188. 188 RC5000 said at 3:55 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Britt is ok but I wouldn’t be overwhelmed with that signing. I’m not sure I want to spend money (6-7 million a year) on him tbh.

  189. 189 Sb2bowl said at 4:17 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Not new, been rumored for a bit. Seems to be a less expensive veteran option (not named DeSean).

  190. 190 GermanEagle said at 4:19 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d be fine with him as a no. 2 in our offense, pushing Matthews into the slot (full stop). We would still need a no. 1 though.

    Seems like DeSean will be out of our price range (rumored to be looking for $10-12m / year.

    My No. 1 options, in that order:

    1. Cooks – provided we can keep our 1st!
    2. Pryor – provided gtd money is limited
    3. Jeffery

  191. 191 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I haven’t watched his shit show team play in a few years but I always thought Britt was a talented knucklhead, at least it seems like he has stayed out of trouble

  192. 192 A_T_G said at 5:24 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Is there a WR to whom we have not been rumored to have interest? At some point we can just assume agents have their standard lists of teams for each position, right.

    That said, I would be shocked if Howie’s isn’t investigating every WR option.

  193. 193 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Agreed, but McManus is one of the few reporters who’s intell I valuabke above the rest

  194. 194 A_T_G said at 5:38 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Britt and Pryor would be a terrifying combination in terms of baggage.

  195. 195 Dave said at 4:18 PM on March 6th, 2017:

  196. 196 GermanEagle said at 4:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Thank God we didn’t give away any draft picks for him. He’d be an interesting no. 2 option as well…!

  197. 197 anon said at 4:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    More Wrs on the market the cheaper they get.

  198. 198 GermanEagle said at 4:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    ..and the Saints just threw up in their mouth.

  199. 199 SteveH said at 4:26 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    We are going to be all over this. I feel like this is a lead dead lock to be signed.

    If we could get Smith and Cooks with Mathews as a compliment our WR core would go from shit to pretty solid I think.

  200. 200 GermanEagle said at 4:25 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    In Madden world I would pull the following trigger (if I was Howie R.):

    Eagles 2nd + Kendricks + Jordan Matthews for Brandin Cooks and 2nd in 2018.

  201. 201 Nick C said at 5:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Don’t think the 2nd and Kendricks for Cooks is going to get it done for us (With TEN apparently being “in the lead” now). And I also think there is a minimal chance we get a 2nd for JMatt.

  202. 202 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Sounds like Titans in the lead report was the saints trying to increase his value. Sounds fishy

  203. 203 Nick C said at 10:16 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I hope so.

  204. 204 SteveH said at 4:27 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Lots of people wanting to deal Mathews… look his hands are frustrating, but we’ve always wanted to see what he could do if he was the #2 guy instead of the #1 guy right? If we brought in Cooks Mathews would finally have a threat opposite him, then we’d get to see what he’s made of as the second option. He might really flourish in that role.

  205. 205 kajomo said at 4:38 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    If his issue was getting open consistently I would agree. Taking some attention away from him might help. That is not the case though.

    His issue is catching the football. The only thing have better weapons on the team does for that is make less balls come JMatt’s way…less opportunities for drops. For a guy that tries as hard as he does, if his hands haven’t improved already they never will.

  206. 206 SteveH said at 4:45 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    But even for the drops he still is a workhorse. I think giving up on him would be a mistake. I’m sure he will have ups and downs with the drops but a receiver that can catch 70 balls for 1000 yards isn’t something we should give up on, I believe, especially considering the shit options we have otherwise. I’m just saying we’ve had so many terrible receivers here lately, I’m reluctant to let anyone even reasonably competent walk out the door.

  207. 207 kajomo said at 4:57 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I get that. I wouldn’t give him away, but if we get a decent pick back I’d happily send him packing. The reason being is I don’t want to pay him next year. I’m not paying a guy I can’t trust to catch the ball consistently.

  208. 208 SteveH said at 5:24 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Yes, that makes sense. It’s a tough call. The question is what does he want contract wise and what kind of value does he actually have? I think He’s worth about a 3rd, do we make that trade? Hard to say.

  209. 209 Sean Stott said at 4:56 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Bottom line is he can’t be trusted in clutch situations. He’s not a closer, he doesn’t have that in him. It’s a real thing that some people have, and he simply doesn’t have it.

  210. 210 kajomo said at 4:58 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Jordan Matthews gets no coffee. Coffee is for closers.

  211. 211 Tdoteaglefan said at 6:26 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    A –Always…B- Be…C–Closing…Always be closing! ALWAAAAYS BE CLOOOOSSING!!

  212. 212 Dude said at 10:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Winner’s beef jerky

  213. 213 anon said at 4:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Do you think Howie pulls a 1 or 2 from Douglass in his first year running the draft (and during a time where we don’t have a ton of picks). Given there’s a new deputy in town are we less likely to make trades so that he has more assets to do his job or does that not figure into it?

  214. 214 GermanEagle said at 4:28 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Not. Figure. Into. It.

  215. 215 kajomo said at 4:34 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Joe Douglas isn’t just in charge of the draft. He oversees pro personnel too I believe. If Joe loves Cooks then he can make a splash year 1.

  216. 216 Dave said at 4:30 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Here are the most prominent wide receivers who are free agents this year.

    Alshon Jeffery 27 CHI
    Vincent Jackson 34 TB
    Brandon Marshall 32 NYJ
    Pierre Garcon 30 WAS
    DeSean Jackson 30 WAS
    Kenny Britt 28 LA
    Kamar Aiken 27 BAL
    Brandon LaFell 30 CIN
    Michael Floyd 27 NE
    Ted Ginn Jr. 31 CAR
    Kendall Wright 27 TEN
    Brian Quick 27 LA
    Terrelle Pryor 27 CLE
    Robert Woods 24 BUF
    Terrance Williams 27 DAL
    Markus Wheaton 26 PIT
    Kenny Stills 24 MIA
    Torry Smith 28 SF edit

    Brandin Cooks 23 NO via trade

  217. 217 GermanEagle said at 4:31 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Add Torrey Smith to that growing list..

  218. 218 Dave said at 4:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    You would have thought I would have included him after I posted he was getting released.

  219. 219 GermanEagle said at 4:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Nah. 😉

  220. 220 Insomniac said at 4:33 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    It sucks that there’s no VODs on the CB drills yet. Going to rewatch breakdowns on Fabian Moreu, Kevin King, and Rasul Douglas later on since the team met with those guys at the combine.

  221. 221 Tdoteaglefan said at 4:39 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I made sure I DVR’ed it today…can’t wait to go home and check it out later..

  222. 222 Mitchell said at 5:23 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Not much on Moreau out there unfortunately

  223. 223 Insomniac said at 5:23 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    3 cone results are out. Kevin King is increasing his draft stock like crazy.

    I also will have notes on Fabian Moreu done by tonight, already went through half of his breakdowns (which is 2).

  224. 224 A_T_G said at 5:34 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Okay, so we talked about lots of WR possibilities, and tomorrow things might start to firm up. Which of these possibilities do you think will happen (feel free to choose multiple choices):
    A. Alshon
    B. Britt
    C. Cooks
    D. DeSean
    E. Pryor
    F. Stills
    G. Garçon
    H. Smith
    I. A non-Cooks trade
    J. A different FA
    K. Keep our guys, no changes.
    (Add additional letters as needed.)

  225. 225 A_T_G said at 5:37 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I am going to go with E and H. Both guys from bad situations that have the potential to outplay their deal.

  226. 226 Sb2bowl said at 5:49 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Agreed; I can see it going a number of ways, hence my guesses. And I think it’ll be within those tiers, with a potential draft pick in the mix.
    Going to be a whole lot of change on our offensive skill position side this year.

  227. 227 Sb2bowl said at 5:44 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    C or E
    B or H

  228. 228 sonofdman said at 7:25 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    This sounds about right.

  229. 229 A_T_G said at 7:32 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Those were the debates I wrestled.

  230. 230 Dave said at 6:02 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Damn, look at ATG using the cedilla! I knew my high school French would come in handy someday.

  231. 231 Dave said at 6:05 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    BTW, I would be happy with anyone on the list that would revert Ags to being the 3rd or 4th receiver.

  232. 232 A_T_G said at 7:20 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’m using context clues to know what you are talking about and I regret to say that autocorrect did it for me.

  233. 233 Dave said at 7:42 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    That is one impressive autocorrect.

    Edit:. Garcon…I had to try it myself to see if my android had the same feature

  234. 234 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:09 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    L. Woods
    M. Wheaton

  235. 235 Sb2bowl said at 6:56 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Woods seems like an underrated option, but he has some translatable skills which we could use. Shouldn’t cost a whole lot, kinda reminds me of a faster version of Hogan with the Pats

  236. 236 A_T_G said at 7:21 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I thought about putting Woods on the list, but haven’t seen much talk about him.

  237. 237 anon said at 6:23 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    My heart says D, J (Maclin once released), but my head says G + draft.

    Interesting how no on talks about Stills anymore, the Cooks trade + Pryor has totally zapped that story line.

  238. 238 A_T_G said at 7:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Garçon, really? I didn’t think anyone was predicting him. Kinda slow.

  239. 239 anon said at 7:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’ve heard his name batted around, i don’t want him, but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the tier we get.

  240. 240 GermanEagle said at 6:35 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    A, B, C, D according to my 3 year old daughters…

  241. 241 A_T_G said at 7:26 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I hope they can work some magic with the cap.

  242. 242 GermanEagle said at 8:46 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    They’re good at fudging numbers. Especially when it involves chocolate fudge!

  243. 243 Insomniac said at 6:48 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    B, E, H, and J are the most probable. C, B, G and E are the wildcards. F, A, and K are the least likely at this point. I’m going with L (trade for Boldyn).

  244. 244 Fufina said at 6:50 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I have been around the houses on this. my preferred option is D for DeSean as a 2 year placeholder while we develop WR’s internally.

    However, i think the Eagles will end up signing E:Pryor. Seems to be lots of smoke, with him saying nice things about Eagles/Wentz, having Rosenhaus as his agent (great relationship with Howie), and fair few links/rumours from some of the top national ‘NFL insiders’. Also think he matches how Howie thinks about things – he is the upside pick up and can be both a play maker close to the line of scrummage and can stretch the field – potentially taking on the role of a true no.1 WR which probably only Jeffery or Cooks can do at a significantly higher cost (either $$ or draft picks).

  245. 245 A_T_G said at 7:23 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I saw DeSean is expected to bring in $12M per year.

  246. 246 Fufina said at 7:35 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I am sure that is what his agent is saying, not sure that is what he will get in reality. Think $10M a year is probably realistic however.

  247. 247 A_T_G said at 8:03 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Mike Florio and Jeremy Fowler, so yeah, just a tick up from agent.

  248. 248 Tumtum said at 7:03 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Events of the day make E seem very likely. Wouldnt be ahocked to see any of the options or any combo.

  249. 249 Mac said at 7:06 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’ll go ahead with my first inclination this offseason Britt and Goodwin.

    If the Eagles can get Cooks for a 2nd plus Kendricks I’m all for it. I’m also not opposed to making a play for Pryor.

  250. 250 daveH said at 7:14 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Mike williams / Corey Davis at 14 ??

  251. 251 A_T_G said at 7:16 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I wasn’t thinking about the draft yet. We will have time for that.

  252. 252 sonofdman said at 7:22 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Howie will trade our second round pick, Kelce, Kendricks, Barwin, Algohar, Mills, and trashcan for Odell Beckem Jr.

    Eagles fans will then argue that Howie should be fired because he doesn’t value offensive line depth and he gave up too soon on a first round wide receiver and a promising young cornerback.

  253. 253 anon said at 7:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Rumor that Smith could go back to Baltimore – and they could drop mike wallace.

  254. 254 Corry said at 10:09 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I’d say B and I. B because of the Groh connection and then I (as someone pointed out earlier), because Howie seems to be able to pull off a trade no one sees coming.

  255. 255 anon said at 5:42 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Anyone thinking about running backs?

  256. 256 Sean Stott said at 5:45 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    WR, CB, RB in that order

  257. 257 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:55 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Too be honest before draft/combine i thought be strong RB class. After this combine my thoughts just flip upside down. Apart from McCathrey being talked up as a rd1-2 guy everyone else has had poor combines.

    I know they say trust the tape but man those slow times n athletic drills make me want to second guess.

  258. 258 Tumtum said at 6:16 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Could work out in our favor. Didn’t really do much at combine and had things like 4.5 40 and 29″ vert at pro day. I’ll take this year’s Lesean in the 2nd (if it isn’t used on a trade), please.

  259. 259 Fufina said at 6:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    There are 2 types of RB in the league – freak athletes who can just dominate with strength power and speed, and those with great vision who intuitively feel contact and space and beat teams with that. Personally i would take an 2 RB’s in the draft but probably wouldn’t pull the trigger until the 4th, and look to find a more all round back, and a gadget 3rd down type.

    Again if McCaffery is there in the 2nd grab him, but it would need to be clear BPA for me to do so.

  260. 260 Insomniac said at 6:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Notes on Fabian Moreau

    vs Virginia

    tosses his guy to the side at (0:04) and takes a good angle, however the pile was in the way and the WR tripped
    presses his guy and might have been held at (0:22)
    misses a tackle at (0:32). looks like he was trying to strip the ball and got punished for it.
    would have liked to see better tackling technique at (0:55)
    mirrored his guy well and got way too physical due to poor positioning. was called for pass interference (1:28)
    defended a sideline pass very well. stuck to his man and pushed him out of bounds (1:42)
    sent on a blitz, RB makes a cut so he had to change his pursuit angle again (1:52)
    presses his man and got very physical. ball went to the other WR and Moreu identified it and went into pursuit immediately (2:00)
    defends a hitch route easily at (2:07)
    weak jam on his guy at (2:18), sat on a route, and never stopped kept his eyes off the QB. Identified that the QB was going to run after and arm tackled him at (2:22).
    pressed his guy again at (2:28) and rode him to the sidelines. forced a bad throw from the QB and his teammate picked it off.
    tries to jam his guy but got beat after getting punched in the shoulder (2:45)
    identifies the run and reacts fast. stops the RB for a short gain. nice wrap up tackle and patience at (2:53)
    bad throw by the QB and ok coverage at (3:02)

    vs Stanford

    gave up a catch. stuck to his guy well but gave up the inside. excellent throw by the QB (0:05)
    jams his guy at (0:11) but looked passive trying to get through a block. not much happened here since the front 7 did all of the work.
    gave his guy a free release but stuck pretty well (0:18)
    presses his guy (0:24) but didn’t look urgent chasing down the screen to McCaffery
    jams his guy (0:32) and looks like he was getting held
    took a good angle against a run (0:41). DL did all of the work though.
    jams his guy and sits in a zone (0:46).
    identifies the run but doesn’t weave through traffic well (0:54)
    uses the shuffle technique and got badly beat by a comeback route (1:00) luckily the QB didn’t see it and threw a pick
    went to cover the TE (1:14)
    presses his guy but labors through the block (1:24).
    nice contain on McCaffery, forced him back inside into the front seven (1:32)
    throws out a jam, he’s off the screen at this point (1:40)
    takes on the FB. didn’t get plowed through which is something you don’t see often from a CB (1:48)
    presses his guy, got pushed out of bounds by his guy, and tried a bad attempt at stripping the ball. managed to slow the run down a bit though (1:55)
    looked passive again on a run (2:07)
    not much to say here, WR blocks him on a run and the ref is in the way (2:17)
    presses his guy and gets off the block to join in with gang tackling (2:24)
    flips the hips and goes stride for stride. panicked in the end and got grabby in the end for no reason (2:32)
    played back deep and didn’t wrap up again so the WR almost broke the tackle (2:41)
    stuck to his guy like glue even with the free release (3:04)
    doesn’t get fooled by an out route, starts and stops beautifully and broke up the pass easily (3:10)
    mirrors well and throws out a jam that rides the WR to the outside (3:16)

    Moreau has all of the physical tools but not quite the experience yet. Which is a given since he’s a RB converted to CB. Heck he even still looks like a RB since he’s jacked for a CB. He’s going to rise up the draft board for teams who love pure cover corners especially if they think they can improve his tackling.


    Physical cover corner that’s fluid
    Backpedal looks good
    Good long speed
    Not afraid to do the dirty work
    Blankets his man


    Ball skills are lacking
    Not aggressive enough
    Doesn’t weave through traffic well
    Keeps his eyes on the QB too much, could be manipulated easily at the next level.

  261. 261 Mitchell said at 10:52 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Where are you comfortable with him being taken. Im more o terested in him after the great 40 time.

  262. 262 Insomniac said at 11:11 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I think he’ll be a high second round pick. I would love to get him in the second round if Conley is gone.

    Right now I think the CB rankings are

    1. Marshon Lattimore
    2. Sidney Jones
    3. Marlon Humphrey
    4. Gareon Conley
    5. Fabian Moreau

  263. 263 Mitchell said at 11:20 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Interesting to see Moreau that high. I just don’t have a good feel for him. There are so many good corners that the lines blur quickly and it’s probably going to come down to what specific teams want in their corners. I’m working on a post now about Akhello Witherspoon, I like him quite a bit (I’m saying that about several CB’s which is strange).

  264. 264 Insomniac said at 11:55 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    It’s a good CB class. Moreau is that high since the other guys have bigger issues. Teez Tabor is too slow. Cordrea Tankersly is stiff. Jourdan Lewis is too short. Tre’Davious White has similar issues and is less athletic/smaller. Adoree Jackson is too raw.

    So that leaves Kevin King and Chidobe Awuzie. I don’t think those two guys are better than Moreau.

  265. 265 daveH said at 7:20 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I got click baited so bad .. did it for T Law. .. if you want to see some real bad internet crap click on the Tarek and Christina trash, it is just created from pure mothing some Russian algorithm translated into jumbled English mess, such crap junk and I fell for it I clicked on it hope you made a buck..

  266. 266 A_T_G said at 7:29 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    “…some Russian algorithm translated into jumbled English mess…”

    That is the proposed federal budget, show some respect.

  267. 267 Dave said at 7:46 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Bravo! That may very well be the post of the year!

  268. 268 daveH said at 8:30 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Jeez i got click baited AND plagiarized. . Low moment

  269. 269 sonofdman said at 8:30 PM on March 6th, 2017:


  270. 270 daveH said at 9:31 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Prabably cuz i had my agholar jersey on

  271. 271 myartz04 said at 7:54 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    So…If we happen to land Cooks…Would we expect this deal to get done before the start of free agency or is this something that will depend on free agency and get nailed down closer to the draft?

  272. 272 Fufina said at 7:57 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    It would normally happen just as free agency starts – since signing him is going to affect free agency plans, and take teams out of the market. For example if you waited and the Titans signed Jefferies and the Eagles DeSean probably neither are going to be willing to trade significant assets for Cooks at that point, reducing the number of teams interested and lowering the price you can get in a trade.

  273. 273 myartz04 said at 8:02 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I agree. It would seem the trade value for Cooks goes up the more WR are signed so it would be wise to try and get it done before free agency.

  274. 274 Dave said at 8:00 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I would think they need to get it done before free agency while they have the most bidders. After teams pick up free agents, I imagine Cooks value goes down if he is looking for a new lucrative contract.

  275. 275 Dave said at 7:58 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I wonder if we’ll know tomorrow.

  276. 276 Media Mike said at 8:34 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I really hope the Pryor stuff turns out to be false. I don’t want hat dude on our team.

  277. 277 Rellihcs said at 8:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    You no like yards and tds?

  278. 278 Media Mike said at 8:43 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I don’t like overrated players with a flash in the pan season of empty stats.

  279. 279 wee2424 said at 9:12 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Arguement can be made that his stats are even more impressive considering what he was working with.

  280. 280 Media Mike said at 9:13 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I could counter that they were all achieved in low pressure situations with his team down a ton of points.

  281. 281 wee2424 said at 10:15 PM on March 7th, 2017:

    Down a ton of points due to poor QB play and lack of offensive weapons, meaning that opposing D’s mainly focused on him.

  282. 282 Dude said at 10:08 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    I like TDs. 4, however, is not an impressive number.

  283. 283 wee2424 said at 10:20 PM on March 7th, 2017:

    A TD is made by a QB to a WR. Do you think if he had a better team around him he wouldnt have more TDs?

  284. 284 Fufina said at 8:41 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Why specifically? Some of his ex-team mates seem to hate him as a person, but some seems to love him as well, and the one thing everyone has said about him while he has been with the Browns is how much effort he puts in off the field and in training.

    I think there is a decent chance he is an arrogant dick, but honestly if there is any position where that is not a problem it is at WR, and frankly our WR group needs someone with some swagger who thinks they are the best. He has a decent chance to be a bust – but honestly he will be on a deal the sixers can get out of after 2 years if he is bad (so costs the Eagles ~$20m only over 2 years), and unlike almost any WR in this class of free agents he has the chance to actually out perform his contract and be a genuine no.1 type WR.

  285. 285 Media Mike said at 8:44 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    He strikes me as a flash in the pan player with hollow stats for the year. I don’t want to pay for that.

  286. 286 sonofdman said at 8:57 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    What if they cut Barner to make room for him?

  287. 287 Media Mike said at 8:59 PM on March 6th, 2017:

    Trick question; Barner didn’t even get tendered, did he?

  288. 288 anon said at 1:41 PM on March 7th, 2017:

    So Pats can get rid of Blount 1100 yds 18?!?!?!?!? touchdowns and get AP on the cheap. Rich get richer.

  289. 289 anon said at 2:08 PM on March 7th, 2017:

    Cousins to SF rumors getting stronger. Does that mean skins trying to get Watson?