Friday Night
Posted: May 9th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 322 Comments »Rounds 2 and 3 are here. The Eagles sit at pick 54, 21 picks away. I’m hoping a good WR will slide down and that seems likely since this is such a deep, talented group.
The Eagles aren’t locked into WR. They could go any number of directions. Could be OL or DL. Could go for an ILB. RB wouldn’t be my choice, but could be the target. This is all about which players are available.
Trading up doesn’t seem likely. Trading down is possible. I could live with that, since there are good picks in rounds 3-5. Adding another mid-round pick would be cool.
The first pick off the board is an OG. Let’s hope there is a run on DEs. That’ll push some good guys down to 54.
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WAS-DAL trade sets parameters for Eagles trade up if they do so for WR of choice.
3rd round for 13 spots seems a high price…
Move up 15 spots for a 7th???
six 7th round picks … watch out for Dallas next year, haha
The Cowboys select Demarcus Lawrence. get their man
http://cbsprt.co/2014NFLDraft
Cmon dude, spoilers.
YO. Can you stop tipping picks?
yea … seriously, stop
Lol I’m fine with that. Lawrence can’t get off of blocks for his life.
Smacks of desperation, Cowboys have nothing on that line.
agreed
‘Boys get Lawrence?
Should be interesting to watch, twice per season, who made the right choice at the DE/ROLB position . . . Birds or Boys
Reminds me of when they got Anthony Spencer. Outside of the 2nd half of 1 season Spencer hasn’t been much of a factor.
Difference here is, this year, BOTH the Eagles and Cowboys selected a pass-rushing DE/ROLB.
In ’07, Spencer was the Boys pick when Reid decided Kolb would be the future
after watching a decent amount of his highlights (i know…not the best film study), Smith looks a good amount more explosive than Lawrence
Yep. Character issues.
YOU GUYS STILL THINK THE EAGLES REACHED? <– Me yelling at 95% of Eagles fans.
Eagles didn’t reach. And definitely character issues for Lawrence.
Lawrence and Smith were bunched w/ Jerry Attaochu.
So the value was right. For both the Eagles and Cowboys.
If DLawrence doesn’t get kicked out of the NFL, should be an interesting sidelight for the next 2-3 years. Until a new story line develops
Yup yup…bet someone gets nervous and take Attaucho soon
I don’t think they reached, loved the pick. But spent too much time listening to sports radio and reading twitter today.
Should have known better.
The premium on pass rushers keeps going up.
5 years ago? All these guys like Smith and Lawrence and Jerry Attaochu . . . they’re much lower picks.
The kind the Steelers lived on for years.
After thinking about it today, I still think it’s a reach. I decided that the Eagles were at a loss, because I think the probable best pick was what NE got, Dominique Easley.
And people think Marcus Smith would have stayed for long?
Looks like a run on pass rushers underway
The drop off in pass rushers is severe at this point in this years draft. Eagles were not stupid to go OLB in round 1 and wait a round for a WR to inevitably fall.
Point values. Cowboys did overpay
Redskins (#34): 560 points
Cowboys (#47+#78): 630 points
Difference they overpaid by: 70 points = fourth round pick (#112)
I find it really interesting to see the teams trading up in this supposedly deep draft over paying. It’s happened quite a bit so far. You’d think it would be a buyers market for teams that want to trade up.
Howie had to take that into account when trading down, rather than up.
Higher the quality, the higher the cost.
Not the opposite — at least, that’s my theory.
true…i just feel like the difference in costs this year is less pronounced than other years, yet the price of moving up seems even higher than usual. I can’t help but agree with the guy over at eaglesrewind.com … draft is a crap shoot, might as well make as many picks as you can and not over value your certainty in a single player.
Ice cream situation.
Surprise pick from the Browns
Dude, please stop the spoilers. 😉
That’s better :).
what is your malfunction today? Is there a reason you keep doing this while everyone politely asks you to stop?
I didn’t say who
just wait like 2 min until it’s shown on TV until you say anything about the pick.
Please not tipping picks here, ok?!!
Yes please, no more Bermanizing.
Jags just drafted deez
wow no wr for browns
good for us
Sure, Joe Bitonio, why not. Love it, pushes another WR down.
The OL/DL run might start from here.
Here’s to hoping Joyner falls allllllllll the way to us in the 3rd.
Demarcus Lawrence is already off the board. People complaining about Marcus will look dumb when all the pass rusher are gone by 45..
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Josh Gordon was suspended for the year and the browns just drafted a Guard?nwtf..the WR keep falling…KVN,Latimer or A Rob need to fall into our laps.
If only we still had a proven WR we wanted to get rid of..
Browns loaded with picks.
They can jump back in whenever the WR run begins.
Farmer playing the draft very well.
True true… I do like Bitonio
Howie looking smarter with each pick. traded.down, not up, for a pass rusher. Knew WEs would fall.
There was no pass rusher to trade up for after Barr went off the board at No. 9.
Or am I forgetting someone?
Agreed.
My only question was why not Attaochu in the second.
I think he’ll go soon.
How ’bout Seattle?
Or Buffalo?
Both 3-4 teams. Sort of.
Could be issues with perceived ability in space.
Plus, he’s a pure 3-4 OLB. So his attractiveness may be limited to only half the teams.
the point, Eagles adding picks in historically deep draft while others shedding them.
DNR:
I don’t count the Cowboys. Jones is a cancer.
Buffalo used next year’s picks — which, if this draft is so great, is the right move for getting the best football player in this draft.
And there goes Carr.
… come on man.
That was after the TV feed.
It was already on TV when I clicked that.
whoops must be on delay… carry on!
Lee keeps falling….hope the run on WRs is prolonged as much as possible…
I’m getting excited. Similar to when desean fell to us?
Are the Raiders quietly having a good draft after that horrible FA period? Getting a premier playmaker in Mack and a QB who can go toe to toe with Bortles, Bridgewater and Manziel. The two most important positions and the Raiders are getting great players at good value.
raiders aren’t hurting my feelings with the carr pick
receivers fall, that’s a good thing.
Oh my!!! With every pick I am praying the announcers won’t mention a WR! Loving it!!!
NFL teams staying away from Lee means that his injury concerns are bigger than we thought!!!
Falcons… need a pass rusher
they took hageman
stop
wasn’t me
haha
yes,stop
Yes please stop. But good pick for them
Can you block people on here? Or is the only option a ban from a moderator?
Remember when the birds looked stupid for not taking Marqis?
that knee must be a lot worse than expected for someone who was thought to be top 10 talent last year
Can anyone expand on Demarcus Lawrence’s character issues? I need to rub it in my friends nose.
I read suspened 3 times
“When most of the draft world loves OLB Demarcus Lawrence and I don’t, my reaction isn’t that they’re a bunch of idiots but rather…what am I missing? I’ve watched several of his games in the past 10 days to see if I’m missing something. Lawrence has grown on me a bit, but I still think taking him in the 30′s is crazy. I just don’t see an explosive athlete.” Tommy
agreed, he seems heavy footed even against college athletes
Things are playing out well for the Eagles so far. Keep pushing the WRs down please.
16 picks left, run on DL/OL.
Yeah, and its the DL guys who doesnt really fit the Eagles. Let Jernigan go next, even if all the WR(Lee, Latimer, Robinson, Matthews) is gone after a run, it would guarantee defenders like Joyner, Tuitt, Nix, KVN etc. being on the board.
I really don’t understand the fascination from Eagles fans and bloggers for Marquise Lee. He’s about the same size as Maclin, slower, and has suspect hands. He’s also a medical risk. Yes, I know he’s polished and put up crazy numbers the previous two years, but I’d rather take on the WR with size and upside.
Maclin with Muscles
Bills must be kicking selves – could have traded Stevie J to CLE for more than they got from SF.
Is it wrong to start getting my hopes up re Latimer? Would use a 5th to move up if need be….Really want him.
16 picks left!
We are ok as long as Lee is still on the board…hoping teams have Jordan and Devante rated ahead of Cody and Robinson
Falcons gonna pick Dee Ford
That would be remarkable.
It certainly would.
andy got him yesterday
Darn, forgot. Puts down beer.
I mean, if those are the rules, can we draft Calvin Johnson?
KC took him last night. He sucks!!
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Bet anything Kony Ealy character kept him off of draft board…
Or maybe because he’s overrated in every aspect?
Character plays into it. Allegedly he thinks he is Aldon smith and doesn’t want to work.. Ton of scouts flagged his character..sounds a lot like Hubbard
Nope.He was mediocre in almost everything except the 3 cone. That was the only saving grace for his stock.
Claude Humphrey had some good years with the Eagles as well.
Wow Falcons are getting great picks.
Boom bust pick for the Falcons. I liked the guy for the Eagles cause we need DL depth, but I wouldn’t want him this high.
Always worried by players that give less then full effort. You can’t get by with just natural talent at the next level. Either he matures or he busts. That’s quite a a level of risk to add to the already crap shoot nature of the draft.
Very true, but with his physical gifts, he’d be ok in a 2-gap system even if he never does live up to his ability.
Don’t like his age…dude is like old enough to be Cox’s great grand daddy
owners: hey guys, how can we drag out the draft even longer?
goodell: how about we let old nfl players make the selections and furthermore i will have to introduce each and every single one of them!
Sad but true.
I like it. Not For Long league needs to recognize those who made the league what it is.
I imagine paying for their crippling medical expenses would probably be a better way to do that than parading them around for a minute on draft night.
that too!
im all about recognizing history and honoring your lineage, but there are better ways to do it
I think it’s SOOO corny having dumb guests,,I don’t care if it’s former players or underprivaledged kids, think it’s all dumb, and cheesy. I was ashamed for Barry sanders doing it! parading him around for 15 second..so lame
I wouldn’t mind having the draft this weekend, if we would have had rounds 1-3 2 weekends ago
talkin’ to a beautiful blond, man
hahaha … took the words right out of my mouth. For real, man!
I thought coop had brownish hair, but whatever…
NFL *really* has to figure out a way to solve Twitter-tipping picks / TV timeouts / time between pick and pick being announced.
Its impossible to watch on TV without the pick being tipped / retweeted / etc.
how about airing it live?
It is live on TV, problem is media knows about the pick before because teams know it.
if you air it live you run the risk of seeing someones nipple
I blocked La Canfora. I haven’t seen anyone answer or RT him since.
I have seen a few manual RT him and seen idiots spoil it here
Yeah, even Caplan and Raanan spoiling shit now. It really makes the fact that book readers of Game of Thrones haven’t spoiled that it for TV viewers impressive.
I would have blocked him just because he’s a tool, let a lone spoiling picks.
Its not just people on Twitter though, its the commercials, the delay after the pick, etc.
These guys have to figure it out.
Bucs might take a WR here.
Wow, clearly WR not a priority for anyone.
I think they’ll be some taken soon.
Yep.
they need to do 2 picks in a row to catch up
Re: Hageman as hightest drafted MN Gopher D-lineman
WRONG, Rich Eisen (on NFL Network)
HOF DE Carl Eller . . . 5th overall from U-MN in 1964
AC, you should be anchoring a broadcast
your immediate recall and knowledge is astounding
Tampa bay got Evans and ASJ? WOW!! Great draft by Tampa, I’d keep Glennon if you sorround him with V Jax, Evans and ASJ
I hate ASJ.
Bust potential through the roof.
Looking more and more like Eagles will have their pick of WR in the 2nd round. YES!!
Shhhhhhhhh
Yes, don’t jinx it.
Lot of picks to go.
And then they will all hurt and shock us by taking an OG instead.
lol
Nice going.
does anyone know who the eagles are going to bring up to announce their pick, or is the nfl keeping that on the dl
More ERs pushed down. has even one been taken yet??
WR
psssssd…!!!!
Lee to Jacksonville.
There’s one down, Latimer now exposed…
That’s the first one.
couldn’t hold them off forvever
And so it starts . . . look out below
Crap….we have to pray Teams have Jordan and Devante rated ahead of Cody and allen
Maybe we should all stay quiet and not use the word “WR” any more until the Eagles are on the clock?! #superstitious
lol, ok ok must be my fault 😛
of course! 😉
I agree, Shhhhhhh quiet, silenzio!!
Still plenty of good non-WR’s on the board, Louis Nix, Attaochu, Ealy, Mccarron, Tre Mason…
Can you please stop using the word “WR”. 😉
It’s the new N word lol
Lions need secondary help so bad it’s not even funny
Trade! Shit!
2 trades
and 2 shits
Lol Lions.
There goes Lee, only 13 picks after Eagles fans went crazy for passing on him.
Maybe on BGN or Birds 24/7. IB is pro-Latimer lol.
pe.com stream, merrill is big on matthews
I hate Matthews in the second. I can tolerate it in the 3rd depending on who the second round pick is.
I like Matthews, very Rice like.
Arob or Mocrief will do also…20yr old super athletes, im sure Chip can turn them into better players than Riley Cooper
I prefer Latimer, Robinson, or almost any of the other 2nd round targets. Bigger and more upside.
any chance we take hyde if he lasts to us?
I hope not
a bit too likely if you ask me haha
heh
It crossed my mind earlier…hope not…bad enough I come to terms with Chip using 83 on Tre mason(god I hope I’m wrong)
Eagles moved up to #42
yep
Really? Wtf…..what did we pay? Why did they trade up? Tell me u r lying?
Seriously, TV is BRUTAL right now. 3 picks behind.
Seatle will take Latimer….crap!!!
Van Noy gone, fine by me.
Another guy I liked. Not a great athlete, but a really good football player.
yea no way we were going OLB, ILB 1-2 … let’s keep taking non offensive pass catches
Ugh KVN,,,my baby! Christian kirkseÿ come to papa in round 3
Shut the **** uup GEagle
Right!! My bad
is there a way to temp ban the spoilers?
Start looking away….now!
I’d love it if Tommy banned them just for the night. I’ve stopped updating, but I’m probably just going to bail.
same
Eagles trade up!!
yep, want to know who they picked?
no.
haha NO!
THERE’S A COMMERCIAL EVERY TWO PICKS.
I know this is ridiculous, they’re so far behind.
i know this is absurd
and an old nfl legend to announce each commercial!
Ok we traded up to 42, hopefully we didn’t surrender that 3rd we picked up.
seems likely that we did
Nooooooo. Wtf! ATleast we will find out which WR they REALLY liked
I was just guessing, since it seemed to be the going rate these days
why did we trade to a spot not on the clock?
yea seems odd, right?
We gave up our 4th
Phew, good.
hell yea!
I guess that’s ok…they better trade back in the 3rd and recoup the pick
..
ATleast with all the WR on the board, we get to find out who we really liked
Sorry . . . but what were the trades by Detroit/Seattle and Rams/?
and I’m out, anyone know a good eagles site without spoilers?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I was really looking forward to come here and click re-fresh constantly, and at the same time avoiding twitter to not see any spoilesr. But man, this site is full of spam. Doesn’t make fun. 🙁
Gotta be Latimer we moved up for. Love that we held onto both 3rds.
I hate this pick.
………….
im not going to refresh again until our pick is over
I won’t say who it is but I hate the pick also.
pe.com stream is breaking some news and im not thrilled either
Spuds saying….I’d best not say
Seriously, NFL Network has an ad show with some NFL as breaks…
why do you think I’m not watching? In the end there never was anything to look at.
It’s just a way to spend the night. 2 AM here…
It’s infuriating this side of the channel too.
Oh god, please drag this out longer jesus.
:S
Rams are killing this draft…
I was kind of hoping Joyner would end up with us in the 3rd.
Can’t see Chip ever going for that even though the kid can play.
Why is there such a lag between what’s being reported and what is happening?
Commercials. $$$$. NFL is ruining the draft experience.
This is what Cuban was talking about.
Ram’s front office hates Sam Bradford.
commercial, comish introduces a former player who introduces a fan who makes a pick, commercial…is this real life
they need to get rid of this damn tv delay, this is awful
The clock is already on the 46th pick…
haha even merrill and dave are pissed about the early leaks
I have a beef with Howie now. There were more WRs to be had in the 2nd and we pick the one with the lowest ceiling? Not to mention we lost a pick.
I need to watch his tape, but kid has seriously produced in the SEC. I like him.
He was used in screens so much that his stats were inflated. He’s just average at everything.
I don’t like the screen argument. We’re gonna use him for exactly the same.
I don’t like this pick. Would have preferred Cody Latimer.
But at least we believe that Jordan Matthews is a high character, hard working, smart dude.
Hopefully we can clean up his game.
I really like Jordan Matthews. Big, fast, good hands, good blocker and all that. But over Cody Latimer? I don’t know about that. Maybe I’m falling in love with Latimers ceiling, but damn I really wanted him.
Hope we take Moncreif or Arob in I round 3
Jordan Mathews, huh. well it’s not Cody Latimer.
We have poor history with guys with the last name Matthews too. We’re doomed.
This dude is pumped, taking hands off
Well, that was thoroughly underwhelming. Did we really need to move up for this guy?
That is what really surprises me. At least we only paid a 4th…
Probably not…we all got fooled by Howie. Smokescreen master.
Well at least he was Merrill’s favorite receiver left lol
hmmm ok.
Love his response to the DeSean question
Yeah he is already a polished pro. NFL ready. Not my fav, but I don’t hate it at all
Yeah that was awesome, I like his attitude at a minimum.
second that, it was fucking execellent
Jordan Matthews
Hope the curse of the little brother doesn’t extend to cousins..I can use some jerry rice rubbing off on this kid. Not my top WR, but I good pick non the less. High character, already conducts himself like a pro, good routes, decent size/speed combo..already good at the bubble screens and all the short stuff.. He just handled that interview like a boss. Congrats kid. Fly eagles fly
Seriously great interview, my opinion changed a bit after listening. I think he will be good.
Had their choice of Latimer vs Mathews and prefered mathews… interesting.
Hard not to like him after listening to that interview.
I’m still bitter. I hope Anders is ok.
At least, definitely high character guy…
Giants take a center. Yawn.
Anyone else still hoping Latimer falls to our 3rd?
Hah, that was my first thought.
Or Arob and Moncreif…..rather get one of ythose WR instead of running back Tre mason
Re: Why Mike Quick . . . Not the Whole Story
The Bills selected Clemson WR Perry Tuttle at No. 19.
Why did Buffalo draft Tuttle?
Because at the Senior Bowl, Eagles Coach Dick Vermeil was chatting with Bills Head Coach Chuck Know.
And Vermeil told Knox he loved Tuttle.
And that’s why Buffalo took Tuttle.
Well finish the story, did Vermeil Tom Sawyer his ass or did Vermeil get Ned Starked
Anyone else having trouble keeping track of all these trades?
I don’t understand why we wasted a pick trading up…can’t give it an A plus..B+ pick but we didn’t play our hand well IMO. If we liked him more than the rest we couldn’t have liked him that much more that was worth losing a 4th..like the kid, don’t see why we needed to lose a pick…can’t applaud this, but I don’t mind adding the kid
yea…I might be wrong, but I didn’t see the need to trade up either. Really think he might have been there at 54
How much higher could he really have been rated than a WR available at 54? If two more WRs come off the board, than you get nervous and trade up..the giants weren’t drafting another WR, so why the hell would we trade up in front of them? Poorly played
I would have been happier with the Eagles sitting back and taking the best WR @ their original spot, but I like the player.
What BPA? Who heard of that? It’s reach in every round. It’s the opposite of SEA. Whatever SEA did is what i would do, they trade back, i’m trading back.
Yeah I don’t understand either — think they are scared of runs on players? So much fro BPA — it’s reach city.
I don’t think he would have been there but someone in that group would have been, i guess Eagles had him rated MUCH higher than all those other guys.
that sweater andre reed is wearing sucks a big one
From Aaron Rodgers: “Happy for Jordan Matthews, surprised he was around at #42. Good pick up for the eagles.”
Eagles trade!!!!
again!?
No, I am just behind you guys. lol
haha, don’t read anything below this post!
You better refresh your stream.
Again Eagles finding great value in their trades:
Titans (#42): 480 points
Eagles (#54 + #122): 410 points
Now what they’re doing with those picks…
It might have been ok according to the value chart but would you really give up a decent depth guy for a #2 receiver with other potential #1 receivers on the board?
Giants and bills weren’t taking a WR…no reason to trade ahead of them
There’s still 3 WRs that I would rather have other Matthews too. Maybe we;re overrating some guys.
I don’t love him, but measurables wise he’s great, he’s got experience in the system. If CK can coach him fine.
Kelly started to fall for Matthews when the kid came to the Senior Bowl having studied the CBs he’d be facing.
Then Matthews nails the Combine.
Giants and Bills weren’t drafting a WR, why trade ahead of them? Poorly played. Come on Howie you are better than that
yea really puzzling
wondering if it was a matter of trading parter, 12 spots for a 4th was good value (even if the pick was not), might 6 spots up might have been asking the same price, maybe just figured they might as well go up too high? dunno
Yea, I think they were probably going down the line with a lowball offer and the Titans bit.
that would make some sense
I think they contacted all teams above them, and the moved the most possible for the least. Maybe they could have moved to 46 instead of 42… For a 4th round pick.
Not as big a deal with that extra 3rd. Who’s to say another team didn’t want to jump?
Ok, now, I really wait to see what Tommy thinks of this…
new thread
oof, this Kouandijo guy gave the opposite of Mathews’ interview.
“How do the Buffalo Bills sound to you?”
“They sound really excited to have me, they seem really happy”
…
haha…”Your welcome Buffalo…”
Hope Eugene Parker isn’t his agent lol
Hahahaha I wasn’t paying attention. That’s awesome
It was really something, I hope they play that back somewhere.
paul richardson?
Chip is in rare form in his PC:
“I’m not going to tell you who the other WR was, but come on it’s not that hard”
who, LEE?
yeah, they kept bringing up that we *just* missed lee, kept poking him and prodding him, and he’s just
“look…”
I don’t miss his 12% drop rate. They are drafting scared this draft seems to me. OR they don’t like other guys nearly as much as LEE and Matthews, etc.
Can’t believe London Fletcher played at such a high level for so long. Dude looks like he’s the same age as Mike Quick and he just retired.
The only player that has ever made me envy the skins, not even RG3 gets close
Guy on pe.com has a pretty good theory, essentially we *had* to have 1 of 2 WR’s, saw Lee go and we immediately pounced to make sure we got the other guy. A type of reach perhaps, but it’s good to know Chip *really* wanted him.
2 picks, 2 reaches?
Objection. Opinion, not fact.
sustained
maybe I’m the only one, but I’m fairly pleased with these first two picks the more I watch them. Definitely unexpected, but I think the Eagles are doing the most with the picks they have so far.
Yeah i’m hating but Kelly is getting guys he wants. I think he’s got VERY specific criteria so it’s harder, but we’re definitely picking for need, which is disspointing b/c we’ve heard BPA every day for the last two months.
Where are all the armchair GM’s that thought Van Noy and Murphy were going to be available rounds 10-24? Matthew’s is a Kelly guy, high character and consistent college production. I’m sure we will still have the “I would have…. traded back 2 rounds and got 3 picks and signed him as an UFA.” That extra 3rd now looms huge giving up a 4th.
Looks like we can put the kibosh on the theory that we could’ve gotten a quality 3-4 LB with pick 54 too. I don’t see a single person who I would consider an upgrade. Can’t quite claim happy but I am satisfied with this draft thus far.
Geez, I get back from a great, decandent dinner with two beautiful women and learn my favorite WR is now an Eagle. A Jerry Rice clone no less. I am very happy!!