My Ideal Scenario

Posted: May 7th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 197 Comments »

I’ve thought long and hard about what I would ideally like to see happen in the next few days. The good thing about this draft is that the Eagles don’t have holes that must be filled. This team is pretty good as-is. The goal is to add some pieces that can help push them over the top and into being a definite Super Bowl contender.

While I made the argument recently that the Eagles could go with offense, that’s not ideal for me. I need to add a couple of pieces to the defense as well. The need for picks has me wanting to trade down, which is what I did. In this scenario the Eagles would move back from 22 to the late 1st or early 2nd in exchange for a 3rd and 4th round pick.

I also had the Eagles deal Brandon Graham for a 5th round pick. There aren’t a ton of good pass rushers in this draft so I could see the team getting that pick back in return.

So here is what I would love to see happen.

1 – WR Cody Latimer – 6-3, 215 – Indiana
2 – LB Jeremiah Attaochu – 6-3, 252 – Georgia Tech
3 – RB Tre Mason – 5-8, 207 – Auburn
3 – ILB Christian Jones – 6-3, 240 – Florida State
4 – DE Brent Urban – 6-7, 295 – Virginia
4 – OL Michael Schofield – 6-7, 301 – Michigan
5 – CB Dontae Johnson – 6-2 ,200 – NC State
5 – WR Josh Huff – 5-11, 206 – Oregon
7 – DL Shamar Stephen – 6-5, 309 – UConn

Now for my thinking.

I’ve written about how Cody Latimer could be Chip Kelly’s ideal WR. While he isn’t great value at pick 22, if you move back 10 to 12 picks, Latimer would make a lot more sense. It is possible he could get taken by someone before falling that far, but I don’t think it is out of the question for him to get to the mid-30’s.

The Eagles would then have one huge set of WRs. Latimer, Riley Cooper, Jeremy Maclin, Arrelious Benn and Brad Smith are all 6-0 or taller and 200 pounds or more. Kelly likes size. Those guys can fight for the ball and then tend to be better blockers.

In the 2nd round I have the team getting a pass rusher in Attaochu. The big question here is whether he will fall that far. It doesn’t seem likely. I was trying to be optimistic. I’m a big fan of Attaochu’s. He is a good athlete that can win with speed off the edge. He also knows how to use his hands. Attaochu has some physicality and violence to his game. I think he could learn a lot from Trent Cole since they are similar in build and playing style.

A RB in the early 3rd round? I’m trying to be realistic here. For whatever reason, I get the feeling the Eagles are interested in adding a runner. Mason is my favorite and would be good value here. He does have a wrist issue that could affect him this summer so the Eagles may not want to deal Bryce Brown or Chris Polk just yet. Duce Staley went down to Auburn to work out Mason so the Eagles are interested in him. And I do think Mason would be a good fit in the Eagles offense. Watch this game and his N-S running style.

Next up is another guy from that game, ILB Christian Jones. We just got news that he failed a drug test at the Combine. That is why I pushed him down to the top of the 4th round. Jones is a talented, versatile LB. He played all over at FSU and showed the ability to play the run, cover and rush the passer. I think Kelly and Bill Davis would love his versatility. Jones would spend 2014 learning from DeMeco Ryans. He could play in the Nickel defense and also on STs.

I haven’t said much about DE Brent Urban recently, but I wrote a lot about him back at the Senior Bowl. I think the Eagles would love his body type. He is a tall, chiseled player with long arms. Urban can play the run pretty well. He isn’t a gifted pass rusher, but shows solid athleticism and he is good at batting down passes.

The pick at the end of the 4th round would be some depth for the O-line. Michael Schofield played LG in 2011 and then moved to RT for the past 2 years. Schofield is a solid athlete would could play RT in the NFL, but his best spot might be inside at OG. He is talented enough to be a pass blocker, but tough enough to also be a good run blocker.

The Eagles have shown plenty of interest in CB Dontae Johnson. They met with him at the Senior Bowl and then brought him to Philly for a visit. Johnson would be a good fit for the Eagles defense. He is at his best as a press corner and that is something Davis wants to do even more in the future. Johnson played some Safety in college and that versatility is something Kelly values on gamedays.

Kelly loves offensive weapons and you would have to think that he would love to get another chance to coach Josh Huff, a kid that he recruited to Oregon. The Eagles let go of both DeSean Jackson and Jason Avant so there is room for adding a pair of receivers. Huff is very good in the slot and also has some KOR experience. He knows Kelly’s offense and understands the importance of blocking and contributing on STs. Here is Josh in action.

The final pick would be DL Shamar Stephen. He played DT and some DE for the Huskies. Stephen could play NT or DE for the Eagles. He is strong enough to hold the point of attack on run plays, but is also athletic enough to get some pressure on the QB when he’s allowed to attack.

It took me a while to settle on this group of players. It killed me not to find a way to add S Lamarcus Joyner. He is a physical, playmaking S that I love, but he’s only 5-8, 184 and he will likely go in the 2nd or early 3rd. I don’t know if Kelly would spend a high pick on such a small player.

Rip the picks you don’t like and let me know what your ideal picks would be.

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Sammy Watkins is my favorite player in the whole draft. I’d love to get him, but I don’t see how the Eagles can afford that, minus making some crazy deal.

Evans would be nice if the price was right.

I don’t know how seriously I would take this nugget from SalPal. I don’t doubt the Eagles are making calls, but this seems like more of a stab in the dark than an aggressive attempt to really move up. Calling and talking to teams doesn’t mean a move is likely.


197 Comments on “My Ideal Scenario”

  1. 1 SteveH said at 12:39 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I have the feeling the Eagles are really going to come out of right field with their picks this year. Just a feeling.

  2. 2 anon said at 1:02 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yeah we’ve spent soo much time talking about trading back and collecting picks but that seems to be the opposite of what Howie said when talking to media. I think if they can get a couple of guys they are happy with they’ll be ok — even if that means they aren’t picking in every round. I think there are some UDFAs that they may like depending on how the chips fall.

  3. 3 Mike Roman said at 9:53 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I have the same feeling that you do. I’m not sure if I should be excited or scared.

  4. 4 Buge Halls said at 10:22 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Be excited – Andy Reid is long gone, no need to be afraid of draft day any more!

  5. 5 Insomniac said at 12:52 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I hate the Mason pick. Bryce got 75 carries this year and is far more talented than Mason. I rather see us take a similar player in Charles Sims a round later if we want a N-S guy that can catch.

  6. 6 shah8 said at 1:35 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Be Polk who’d be in trouble.

  7. 7 Poppi said at 6:42 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    agree- decent running backs are a dime a dozen and we certainly don’t need one this year

  8. 8 shah8 said at 3:00 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Decent running backs are not a dime a dozen. There are actually several teams with bad run games who are severely impacted by said bad run games on offense.

    It’s just cheap labor propaganda–skilled RBs are no more common than skilled WRs in proportional terms. And they aren’t really less important than they used to be. Roles change, of course, and offensive styles do to, but RBs are still important. Measuring strictly by yards or attempts would be misleading. Of course, teams really would prefer that they get their RBs cheap on rookie deals and run them to the ground before their big money days. Problem is, RBs are not a low-skill position. You don’t just, you know, run. Unless you’re the proverbial dominant athlete like the Cam Newtons and AJ Greens of the world who can just use their exceptional athleticism, you actually have to gain skill and experience. Many teams, think Detroit before they got Reggie Bush, tried to use young RB and basic run games. Doesn’t work.

  9. 9 Baloophi said at 12:54 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Time for the annual “Ten Foot Pole” list!

    Here are my “do not touch” guys in no particular order and – as usual – with no particular reason.

    Same size as Jabba the Hut, but with significantly less mobility. He did manage to post a single digit 3 cone time… unfortunately those cones were mint chocolate chip, butter pecan, and fudge ripple.

    People say we shouldn’t draft him because he can’t play in our scheme. I say we shouldn’t draft him because he’s got two first names. VERY confusing.

    Adrian Hubbard,
    Went to the cupboard,
    To look for first-step speed;
    It took him so long,
    Roseman knew it was wrong,
    To draft an LB for need.

    This guy has enough red flags to make even Mao Tse-tung blush… and he’s been dead almost 40 years.

    Do we really want to reward a person who did so much to tarnish the legacy of Iron Bowl hero Chris Davis Jr.? A man who destroyed the hopes, dreams, and celebratory dinner plans of my Auburn-loving in-laws? I didn’t think so.

    With 29 ¼” arms, no matter where you pick him it’ll be a reach. He’s dangerous, but not armed. How can he enjoy the benefits of the Chip Kelly nutritional program if he can’t hold a smoothie far enough away from his mouth to drink it with a straw? And how many equipment fines will he amass being unable to reach his chinstrap or insert his mouth-guard without flinging it wildly towards his face? Lastly, what does it do for morale when the best he can offer his teammates is a medium five?

    One wonders whether Ego can put others first…

    I’m as comfortable taking a defensive tackle out of Princeton as NASA is hiring a physicist out of “The U.”

    If we really want a big guy who has no interest in living up to his potential isn’t it far cheaper to simply sign my brother-in-law?

    Webster defines “Project” as: “A planned piece of work that has a specific purpose and that usually requires a lot of time.”

    With the smallest hands in the draft it’s possible he won’t physically be able to hold a clipboard on the sideline.

    You can point to so-called “facts” like his race, birth certificate, and the spelling of his last name until your finger falls off, but I refuse to draft a guy who might be related to Phil Simms.

    Know what you get when you mix up the letters in Logan Thomas? Hot Anal Smog. No thank you.

  10. 10 TommyLawlor said at 1:02 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Brilliant. Love the stuff on Chris Borland.

  11. 11 ACViking said at 1:08 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    My ribs are aching. Your best work.

  12. 12 Maggie said at 1:40 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Chris Borland. ROFL! Also Henderson!

  13. 13 planetx1971 said at 3:09 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I pissed off my fiancee laughing so hard I woke her from another room. And it was totally worth it. AMAZING!!

  14. 14 bubqr said at 7:09 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    That was amazingly funny – Impressive work Baloophi! Logan Thomas was a brilliant ending.

  15. 15 Joe from Easton said at 4:46 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Logan Thomas ending got me funny looks at work when I burst out laughing at my desk.

  16. 16 Buge Halls said at 10:25 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I would say some of you are too easily amused! Kudos though for longest post of the day!

  17. 17 mtn_green said at 11:52 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Hilarious. Mockingly mocked mocks.

  18. 18 Miami_Adam said at 1:56 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    You win

  19. 19 ryan pertl said at 1:04 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Love your scenario. If that played out I’d be pumped. My scenario (no trades allowed):

    1st: WR Cody Latimer – I just think he’s the best fit for what it sounds like Chip wants. He’s a great combination of size/speed while also being a hard worker and willing blocker. Might be unpopular around here, but I want him over a guy like Lee or Cooks.

    2nd: OLB Jeremiah Attaochu – He’s a better prospect than a guy like Dee Ford, in my mind. As you said, it’s unlikely, but I do think it’s possible, that he falls to us in the second.

    3rd: CB/S Jaylen Watkins – I really like the way he plays. He’s a physical guy that seems to have the demeanor that Chip looks for in DB’s. He does fall a little short of the 6’0″, 200 CB mold (he’s 5’11”, 194), but I think his versatility, aggressiveness, and athleticism make up for that.

    4th: DE Taylor Hart – Just don’t think that Urban will fall into the 4th. Hart is the next best option and his familiarity with the system helps the transition along.

    5th: WR Shaq Evans – I think it’s interesting that people are talking about adding a RB, but I just don’t see it. The way Roseman speaks about this WR class leads me to believe we’re going to walk away with at least two. Shaq is a guy that Chip tried to recruit to play for Oregon and he’ll finally get his guy. Another 6’+, 200+ WR.

    7th: Spencer Long – One of the reasons I would be fine with trading back from 22 is because I think we need to address the inside of our OL before what is a position of concern officially becomes a position of need. Either way, in this scenario where trading back isn’t allowed I have us taking Spencer Long. He’s a high character guy.

    Feedback is appreciated.

  20. 20 Baloophi said at 1:16 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Like the Schofield selection. He looked good in televised drills at the Senior Bowl. Speaking of Mobile, is Schofield mobile enough for Kelly as an interior lineman? Or is that less important than I’m thinking for the scheme…

  21. 21 D3FB said at 2:45 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    He is he moves very well. He actually needs to get stronger.

  22. 22 TommyLawlor said at 7:24 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    He isn’t a great athlete, but I think he’s good enough.

  23. 23 GEAGLE said at 9:11 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Kevin Pamphile

  24. 24 Jamie Parker said at 7:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I don’t like the Schofield pick, but that’s because as a Michigan fan, I saw him stink for 3 years. I don’t know how many times I said, “Damnit #75!!! C’mon!”

  25. 25 shah8 said at 1:33 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Ah, wouldn’t it be great had the Eagles got what the Vikings got for Percy Harvin? Then this trading up biz would have been so simple!

  26. 26 laeagle said at 1:41 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    bad Eagles for not getting what no one was offering…

  27. 27 Tom W said at 8:20 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Harvin was still on his rookie deal

  28. 28 Buge Halls said at 10:28 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    No other team was stupid enough to give Jackson $12 mill for this season. Even Snyder (who throws money around like Snoop at a strip club) stretched the money out over two years. And I’m sure his deal is chock full of incentives.

  29. 29 Maggie said at 1:43 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’ve been looking at a thousand people’s mock drafts for a month. My eyes are ready to fall out, yet, no one has mentioned a kicker. At the end of the season Henery was receiving death threats yet where’s his replacement? If quality is wanted, perhaps quality must be drafted?

  30. 30 Insomniac said at 1:59 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    The crop of kickers this year aren’t really better than Henery..which is very disappointing.

  31. 31 Scott said at 8:32 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Real competition (Dan Carpenter?) in August. Henery will be here next year.

  32. 32 D-von said at 1:57 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Great mock. If the eagles don’t trade up in the fist than this is the most likely course of action. My dream scenario is for Anthony Barr to drop to 22 but I can’t see that happening.
    Side notes: I don’t think tre mason last till the third. Also does anyone think that the recent revelation of jones failed drug test will put the eagles off?

  33. 33 D3FB said at 2:20 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    My Scenario: No trades, that’s cheating, Barr, Mosley, Haha, Martin all gone.

    1st: Kyle Fuller, CB, VA Tech
    Fuller is the best fit for the defense. He will hit you. He tackles well. He can mirror you all over the field as he runs his routes. He can line up in your face and press better than all but small handful, which will continue to get better with NFL coaching. He can play slot. He can play safety. He gives the defense the ability to be able to run more than just press or zone. If you are only going to run a couple of coverages your defense better be historically good, I think Billy and Chip would prefer the ability to mix it up.

    2nd: Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
    Smith is the third best OLB prospect in this draft. I’ve said it since January I’m not backing off of it now. Probably doesn’t make it this far but this is my slightly cheating pick. Back off. Smith is the complete package. He was productive. He’s got great length. He’s got the skills necessary to be very good. Probably won’t ever be a 20 sack guy, but will get you 10-12 sacks every year, like Trent in his prime. If in two years we draft one of those rare stud top of the line rushers, slide him over to LOLB and he can cover like Barwin, and give us the scariest set of edge rushers in the league.

    3rd: Billy Turner, G/T, North Dakota State
    6’5, 315lbs 34 inch arms, 10″ hands. FCS version of Greg Robinson. Won three national titles at LT. He will block you into next week. Most of his problems comes from the fact he gets sloppy because he’s bored. Was the best player on the field by a mile when they beat K-State. His pass block punch hits guys in the chest and damn near decapitates them. That’s only a very small exaggeration. He’s not as athletic as Kelly would prefer, but he pulls well, and flashes great athleticism. Against Coastal Carolina in the quarterfinals, he dipped inside the DE runs out to a S or CB who was 10 yards deep and five yards outside the tackle box, hooks him and then with one hand throws the guy to the ground. It’s ridiculous. He’s a bad man. Let him learn behind the vets for a year, and get the little bit of baby fat off his belly, and this guy can be a pro bowl RG for the next decade. Reminds me of a combination of Amini Silatolu and Terron Armstead.

    4th: Ka’Deem Carey, RB, Arizona
    Doesn’t have the best top end speed, not the biggest guy in the world, but productive and does everything well. The guy played in Rich Rod’s spread zone system so I expected to see him having huge holes and be a product of the system. He’s not. He has excellent vision. Shifty. He’s tough. In the Oregon, USC, and UCLA games, the linebackers wanted nothing to do with him by the end of the game. He can catch balls out of the backfield. He’s great in pass pro. Didn’t get the ball on a zone read, ran his fake out found a Oregon linebacker and blew him up. I couldn’t draw up a better back for our system.

    5th: Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
    Tommy talked about him so I’ll just say a few things. Not the biggest but not small. Plays hard. Can be solid contributor to help round out the receiving core, and contribute on ST’s.

    7th: Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU
    Big guy, reminds me of a slightly bigger less athletic Allen Robinson. Not a great blocker for his size but at least attempts to stalk block. He’s big and the kid just makes plays. Has decent wiggle and RAC for his size. Highpoints balls well.

    UDFAs: Because I’m that much of a draft nerd
    James Morris, LB, Iowa. Not the biggest but plays football the right way
    James Anderson, DE, Stanford. Good frame, developmental nickel rusher
    Rob Blanchflower, TE, UMASS. School record holder, Celeks heir to the Y-TE.
    Shamiel Gary, S, Ok St. Freshman All-American, plays man, good tackler.
    Beau Allen, NT, Wisco. Plays hard, strong, let him compete with Square
    Casey Pachall, QB, TCU. Had coke problem, better now, great talent.
    John Urschel, G, PSU. Smart as hell, technician, great player/person.

  34. 34 D3FB said at 5:30 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    The turner play

  35. 35 Joe from Easton said at 4:50 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    That guy had his head hung in the film room the next day for sure. Looked like me tossing a beer bottle in the garbage.

  36. 36 D3FB said at 9:17 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Lucky for him he was a senior and that game ended their season so he probably never has to watch it.

  37. 37 TommyLawlor said at 7:27 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Good stuff. I doubt Smith lasts to pick 54. There is now some talk he could even go in the late 1st.

    Barr, Attaochu and Smith are my primary OLB targets.

  38. 38 Tom W said at 8:21 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Same could be said attaboy or even kvn. Walter football has them all lasting for what it’s worth

  39. 39 mksp said at 11:50 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    This draft would be amazing, but I suspect Fuller, Smith and Turner all go higher than you’re projecting. Still would love this.

  40. 40 D3FB said at 2:04 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Shhhhhhh. Nuh uh. Fuller I think should be there Smith probably isn’t but like I said a guy can dream. Turner I think is interesting because I loved Terron Armstead. I wanted Dion at 4 and then Terron at the top of the second last year. He last til 75 and was a better athlete. So I think it’s even money Turner last.

  41. 41 James Adair said at 4:27 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I know I am in an extreme minority on this, but I am not a fan of Marcus Smith, think he’s the Asante of OLBs. Seems allergic to physical play.

  42. 42 Noah_Drau said at 4:20 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I hope this post doesn’t preclude the annual “I hope/expect the Eagles end up with X many of these players” post.

    Here’s my list:

    RB Charles Sims, WVU
    RB/WR Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern
    RB George Atkinson III, Notre Dame
    RB Henry Josey, Mizzou

    [WR Odell Beckham Jr. / Marqis Lee / Brandin Cooks] one of this cluster
    WR Cody Latimer, Indiana
    WR Allen Robinson, Penn State
    WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson
    WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley St.
    WR L’Damien Washington, Mizzou

    TE Richard Rodgers, Cal
    TE Marcel Jensen, Fresno State
    TE Blake Annen, Cincinnati
    TE/FB Trey Burton, Florida

    OL Joel Bitonio, Nevada
    OL Marcus Martin
    OL Antonio Richardson
    OL Billy Turner, N. Dekota State
    OL Michael Schofield, Michigan
    OL Dakota Dozier, Furman
    OL Brandon Linder, Miami

    DL Brent Urban, Virginia
    DL Daquan Jones, Penn State
    DL Caraun Reid, Princeton
    DL Deandre Coleman, Cal
    DL Taylor Hart, Oregon
    DL Will Clarke, West Virginia
    DL Ed Stinson, Alabama
    DL Jeoffrey Pagan, Alabama

    OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA
    OLB Jerry Attouchu, Georgia Tech
    OLB Marcus Smith, Louisville
    OLB Kareem Martin, UNC
    OLB Ronald Powell, Florida

    LB Kyle Van Noy, BYU
    LB Christian Jones, Florida State
    LB Jordan Tripp, Montana
    LB Jordan Zumwalt, UCLA
    LB Christian Kirksey, Iowa
    LB Khairi Fortt, Cal

    CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
    CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
    DB LaMarcus Joyner, Florida State
    DB Jaylin Watkins, Florida
    CB Phillip Gaines, Rice
    DB Dontae Johnson, NC State
    S Dezmen Southward, Wisconsin
    S Brock Vereen, Minnesota

  43. 43 Insomniac said at 4:21 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Nice list!

  44. 44 TommyLawlor said at 7:27 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’m working on that list.

  45. 45 Shawn Williams said at 8:13 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Tommy do you think the eagles would try to move up for a quarterback. From what Howie said the team thinks there is 3 1st round qb’s and a internal debate about a 4th. Based on what Howie has said before about WR’s and how they think they can pick good ones up in later rounds wouldn’t it make more sense that they are trying for a quarterback.

  46. 46 eagleyankfan said at 8:22 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’ll ask — why do you think the Eagles need a QB? There is no way the Eagles are moving up for a QB. Unless someone kidnaps Foles(or he’s traded) in the next day or so , he is your franchise QB. Second — Eagles don’t sign Dirty Sanchez if they want a QB in round 1. They didn’t sign him to be a camp body.

  47. 47 Shawn Williams said at 8:46 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Then why would they even consider moving up into the top ten. They will not get watkins or evans. ODB is not a top ten pick. I like Nick Foles as much as any fan but I get the feeling that the organization does not feel the same way about him. If they move up that far it probably going to be for a QB

  48. 48 GEAGLE said at 9:13 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Actually ODB prob is a top 10 pick

  49. 49 Buge Halls said at 10:34 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    They won’t move up in this draft – they simply don’t have the ammunition to do so without trading away the whole draft – for what? Another mediocre “mobile” QB? We finally got rid of the last one, we hardly need another one coming in!

    And I’m thinking that funny felling you get concerning Foles and the FO is from reading too much of the garbage that the hacks on pump out! Foles could win three Superbowls in a row and some of those guys would still be riding the “He doesn’t fit Chip’s scheme” wagon!

  50. 50 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:33 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I like the list and particularly accumulating more picks. Would be stoked to get Attachou there.
    I’m not buying the rumors of the trade up for a WR at all. However, if the Eagles do move up aggressively I think they go after Eric Ebron if he falls a bit.

  51. 51 Media Mike said at 5:45 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’m hoping the Eagles make a few aggressive moves in the UDFA market. A lot of the early entry juniors aren’t going to get drafted, so a few of them are going to be hard up for money that they weren’t expecting to be without. A few higher than normal signing bonus offers to those guys could get them here. I’d love to be able to sign a few 20 year old players we can put on the practice squad or give the Kruger treatment to for a year while they fill out their frames.

  52. 52 Media Mike said at 5:47 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I 100% buy the Mike Evans rumor…………….. if he drops to 11. The Titans would be a good trade partner as coach Wis seeks to add draft picks to rebuild that team. That would also force the Giants to add Lewan who will continue to develop legal trouble while also exposing Eli to devastating hits.

  53. 53 mfm said at 6:42 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I like Latimer a lot, but I take Howie at his word that he thinks there can be NFL starting caliber WRs available in each of the first 4 rounds. If the Eagles are truly following the BPA vision and trying to acquire 3-4 future starters from each draft (which is 100% the right model for long term success), I cannot see them drafting a high depth position in R1. That has to be the goal – i think we can get 3 future defensive and 1 future offensive starters in the first 3 rounds and hope for an awesome surprise with some higher upside guys late.

    Here is my list:

    R1 – Trade back to end of R1 for a team looking to go QB, acquire an extra 3rd. Select Kyle Fuller at CB. CB of the future – allows us to cut sconces next offseason and save cash to give Nick his extension.
    R2 – Could go WR because Robinson, Matthews, Adams still on board. They go D again and pick KVN to add depth to ILB or Trent Murphy for OLB. Attaboy, Smith and Dee Ford off the board 10 picks before we go. I have them pick Murphy because Chip only likes players that played against the Ducks.
    R3 (1) – WR Time! Early 3rd round pick acquired from QB desperate team used on Jordan Matthews or Davante Adams.
    R3 (2) – More D depth/athletes at LB and DB – i would have them pick Telvin Smith from FSU here for the super rangy ILB or giant S.
    R4 – Still should be some good depth on the board at D. More DBs that could be Corners or Safties – EJ Gaines from Mizzou or Victor Hampton from SC are the pick.
    balance of draft – love Brent Urban, love Dri Archer or Jerrick McKinnon. Like Ronald Powell from UF. Love that Schofield pick or the G from Nebraska.

  54. 54 daveH said at 1:43 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    “..because Chip only likes players that played against the Ducks.”” A VERY VERY VERY HUGE FEAR!
    ..reading all your other analysis very slowly – my head is spinning. nice work!

  55. 55 Poppi said at 6:48 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    What’s the latest on getting a better kicker? i know we won’t draft one, but are there UDFAs or FAs out there worth looking at?

  56. 56 Scott said at 8:29 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Real competition (Dan Carpenter?) in August. Henery will be here next year.

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 9:19 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Guaranteed to bring in a UDFA Kicker to compete with our drunken idiot kicker… We signed Brad Wing last year to compete with Donnie Longball. We won’t spend a pick on a kicker but you can bet we sign one to battle henrey in camp

  58. 58 jcwhy said at 9:25 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Havard “Kickalicious” Rugland?? year older more experience, Kick-a-delphia!!

  59. 59 Tom W said at 8:03 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Looks a lot like my mock from Monday except schofeld. Nice work!

    To get an extra 3 and 4 you gotta find a team w extra picks and even then that is a lot.

    Trade 22 and our fifth to Vikings for 2.8, 3.8, 4.8. Vikes still have a third compensatory so it’s realistic if they want Carr.

    2.8) latimer is gone by 32 so kyle van noy
    2.22) Marcus smith
    3.8) Arob or mart Bryant or moncrief
    3.22) t. Mason
    4.8) cj fed
    4.22 trade for a mid 5, 6 and 7
    5) dontae Johnson or antone exum
    6) j huff
    6) deandre Coleman
    7) trey Hopkins
    7) colt Lyeria

  60. 60 Scott J said at 8:12 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    If the Eagles draft Latimer, then 3 out of 4 of our top receivers will be coming back from injuries.

  61. 61 Tom W said at 8:16 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    It’s a break of his foot Not a big deal.

  62. 62 Tom W said at 8:16 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    No trades mock:

    1) Barr Mosley haha odb gone — latimer
    2) Marcus smith
    3) Christian jones
    4) antone exum
    5) josh huff
    7) deandre Coleman

  63. 63 eagleyankfan said at 8:18 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    ” the Eagles don’t have holes that must be filled.” — I’ll blame that comment on too man PBR. If you want a team to be ever stuck in the middle of the pack forever, than that line is fine. The Eagles absolutely have holes(or huge question marks) to fill. This team is not close to a SB team. For that statement to be true, the Eagles have gapping holes to fill. WR is one of them. You have two starters and one of them coming off injury. The rest are ?’s. I do like the draft you put up.
    I am hoping the Eagles LOVE a player that they want in the first round. I’m not a big fan of dropping back to get “OK” players and passing up on a quality guy(if one such exists that they have rated so high). If they love Latimer and drop back and someone takes him – you just screwed yourself and you settle for a WR you didn’t have rated as highly as Latimer.
    I guess that’s the million dollar question. You have Latimer(for example) as your highest WR left on the board. Someone calls and offers to drop back and get an extra pick. If the Eagles don’t have holes that must be filled — why drop back and miss your highest rated player?

  64. 64 Scott said at 8:30 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    WR is at best their 3rd biggest need.

  65. 65 eagleyankfan said at 9:33 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I can’t name the 3rd, 4th and maybe 5th wr. Plus counting on Mac Attack to return 100% is a gamble. So right now, we have 1.5 wr’s we can trust. Just body count alone, I don’t see who WR is 3rd biggest need. Of course I want a better pass rush and better safety. So what are your two bigger needs?

  66. 66 Scott said at 11:11 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    olb and cb.

  67. 67 eagleyankfan said at 11:25 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    of course we need help in those areas. But they could get by another year with what they have at those positions. I’d be shocked if the Eagles don’t draft a WR. I wouldn’t be shocked if they don’t draft a CB/OLB. I’m not saying they don’t need help at those spots. I’d also be shocked if our 1st and 2nd round picks go olb/cb.

  68. 68 laeagle said at 11:44 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    You had me at “holes to fill”

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 9:12 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    So tired of tired of looking at scenarios, these last 36hours are going to be hell. Please post like 8’articles in the next day and a half to help time fly..

    I do agree that we could draft RB, but I don’t think it’s because Duce was working out prospects..what was Duce supposed to be the only position coach who did nothing this offseason? Don’t think we should ever be so set at a position that we aren’t looking to add to it…..maybe RB like Mason is a priority, but it could easily just be due diligence in case a guy falls…they could Not be interested, but if a guy like Mason falls to the 4th, they would have to consider it…of drafting RB could be a real priority..

    No way to tell. My ideal mock looks eerily similar to Toms…
    I woke up today ready for the draft….having to wait another day is a kick in my nuts

  70. 70 ACViking said at 11:42 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    You going to NYC on Friday?

  71. 71 Baloophi said at 11:51 AM on May 7th, 2014:


    You’re coming out to L.A. tomorrow to join laeagle and me for the draft, right?

  72. 72 ACViking said at 12:01 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I only wish I were there.

    Seeing the Helmet Phone, in Kelly green no less, was like hearing a Siren song.

    That said, it’s going on the bucket list.

  73. 73 GEAGLE said at 1:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    No…a few of my friends are going tomorrow. Cant find anyone to drive down with Fri and I never heard back from GE

  74. 74 Mike Roman said at 9:12 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Attaochu may not be there at pick 54 but you could possibly use the 3rd rounder you obtained in the original trade down to move back up in the 2nd and grab him.

  75. 75 bwin29 said at 10:00 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Hypothetical scenario:
    Mike Evans drops out of the top 10. Tennessee is willing to swap #11 for #22 for the Eagles’ 2nd and 3rd rounders. Do you do it?

  76. 76 Tom W said at 10:02 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    No chance he drops to 11

  77. 77 bwin29 said at 10:05 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Was there any chance of Crabtree falling to #10 in 2009?

  78. 78 Sokhar20 said at 11:39 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Spending my first, second, and third round picks on him? No, I don’t.

  79. 79 Tumtum said at 12:39 PM on May 7th, 2014:


  80. 80 Jason said at 10:30 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I like this blueprint a lot. Just don’t like the early RB pick — I hope Tommy is wrong about Birds’ intensity on RB. If the extra third pick in this scenario were not needed to move up in the second round to land a pass rusher, than I hope that there were a more attractive option to upgrade the secondary than choosing Tre Mason.

  81. 81 CrackSammich said at 10:43 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Bryce Brown is starting to feel like Curtis Marsh or the Fokou/Chaney/Matthews group, where they show flashes and then you wait around for years to see if they’ll ever do that consistently. Clearly Bryce is more physically gifted than most, but if he’s not showing improvement like Polk is, sell him off to whoever wants him and open the roster spot up.

  82. 82 Tumtum said at 12:38 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Curtis Marsh and Matthews never showed anything. Fokou and Chaney did, but they were consistent starters.

    I don’t see the connect. Maybe more like Trevor Laws?

  83. 83 Mike Roman said at 11:08 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I can’t get enough of the Fan Speak draft simulator.


    At first I thought, no f’n way is lee falling to that late in the 2nd round. After thinking about it though, the WR class is deep and talented. It wouldn’t surprise me if a couple guys at that position fell.

  84. 84 Tumtum said at 12:35 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Makes me nervous to see scouts quoted as saying Dix isn’t a 1st round player in most draft classes.

  85. 85 Mike Roman said at 12:43 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yeah, I don’t know what to think about that. He was a consensus top 15 pick until yesterday and now all of the sudden he’s not a first rounder. You never know what to believe this time of year.

  86. 86 ACViking said at 11:32 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Re: “Oh, Godfather, I don’t know what to do.”

    And the Don tells godson Johnny Fontane, “you can start by acting like a man.”

    Applying that lesson here, I’d say that offenses are entertaining. But defense wins championships.

    If I’m the Eagles, I find a way to get Anthony Barr — before the Cowboys are on the clock.

  87. 87 Anders said at 11:35 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    “In other words, offense is pretty. But defense wins championships.”

    Not true

  88. 88 ACViking said at 11:41 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    A —

    SB’s can be won, from time to time, with a great offense and middling defense.

    But that’s counter the general historical trend.

    SB winners — except the Manning G-men, maybe — generally seem to very good on both sides of the ball.

    Right now, the Eagles have more catching up to do on defense.

    In truth, I’m not sure any aphorism — like, “defense wins championships” — is true in the current NFL. Used to be.

    Anyway, having some Godfather fun.

    And here’s hoping that Barr finds his way to the Birds.

  89. 89 Anders said at 11:42 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    according to this

    Its really even split historical on offense vs defense.

    Also if Defense really won Championships, the Eagles should have more than 0 (see 91).

  90. 90 ACViking said at 11:52 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    A —

    Not really disagreeing.

    For me, the Eagles need to find an impact pass-rusher. Maybe it won’t be Barr. Maybe it won’t be this draft. But it has to happen.

    One thing Andy Reid was always right about is that a great pass rush hides a multitude of sins in the Back-7.

    Seems to be just too hard to win in the near-flag football, pass-happy NFL of today without being able to get pressure.

  91. 91 Anders said at 12:07 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I would love Barr, but its not like we have to get him or an OLB this year. If we picked a WR; TE, RB and OL with the first 4 picks, I would understand it

  92. 92 ACViking said at 12:16 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    A —

    On the same page.

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 4:15 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I don’t know that I could b ok not adding any LBs…

    I understand if we can’t get our hands on one of the few pasrushers Barr, attaboy. Marcus…but ATleast add an ILB who can be a subpackage cover guy..
    My ideal scenario is to get one guy from each group, but at the very least we have to add one:

  94. 94 baxter322 said at 5:00 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I agree a cover LB is actually one of our biggest needs. We need to get Ryans off the field on passing downs.

    Which adds to the logic of trading for Dion Jordan. Let’s say we could trade down 10-20 spots and acquire an extra 3rd & 4th, then trade the early 2nd and Graham or a 5th to Miami for Jordan.

    Jordan would fill 2 needs- cover LB and pass rusher. He would be the ideal LB for subpackages and passing downs in which we only use 3 or even 2 LBs. Teaming him with Kendricks and Barwin would make for a devastating combo against the pass- all can blitz and cover very well, so we could effectively disguise pressure and coverage.

    Unlike any OLB in this draft save Mack or arguably KVN,(if he’s an OLB) Jordan eliminates the immediate need for a ILB that can cover, while also being an effective pass rusher. We could still take an insider backer but wouldn’t have to, adding flexibility to go BPA.

    Other than his contract, I dont see a strong reason not to trade for Jordan if he’s available.

  95. 95 GEAGLE said at 5:38 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    if we tried to get Jordan before you can bet we tried again closer to draft when teams are discussing’s a very big cap hit to ask Miami to take and it don’t see why they would want Graham’s first round salary that expires after the year…if they are going to take that cap hit it would probably be for 22…fine by me

  96. 96 Anders said at 4:32 AM on May 8th, 2014:

    Problem is Barr might be gone by the 1st round pick

    Attaochu, Smith and KVN might be gone by 54, Jones is not a 3rd round pick for me any more and Im not a big fan of Kirksey

  97. 97 laeagle said at 11:52 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    Looking at the historical trend without taking into account rules changes along the way is going to give incorrect results, every time.

  98. 98 ACViking said at 11:56 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    LAE —

    You’re right.

    In reply to Anders’ data-based comment, I noted the pass-happy nature of today’s NFL. For the reasons to which you allude.

    I’m just looking for a better pass rush, with a guy other teams must game-plan for. Trent Cole’s past that point.

  99. 99 laeagle said at 1:25 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    It’s funny, because I’m looking for the same thing, and it’s because of that pass-happy nature. It makes the pass rush so much more important. You’re not going to consistently stop the top offenses anymore, but you can throw them off balance, and force game changing plays like sacks, fumbles, and interceptions. The only reliable way to do that anymore is with QB pressure, because coverage can always be exploited given enough time.

    I think the issue I’ve always had with Cole is that he’s good, damn good, but I don’t know that teams really have to game-plan for him, or that they ever have. Maybe to a certain extent, but he’s not the kind of guy where you have to account for him on every play, like Dawk, or Polamolu, or Ware, or Urlakkerzz (all in their primes). I don’t know how we can get a guy like that but I want him. I was hoping it would be Cox. We’ll see. I’m hoping it’s Barr or Jordan for us this year, through some miracle.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 4:07 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    You broke my heart Fredo

  101. 101 laeagle said at 11:50 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I think the worst fallout of the Seahawks SB win this year, besides more crowing about the “12th man”, is that it was an outlier that perpetuated the myth of “defense wins championships”.

    The truth is, being VERY good at one aspect of the game, and having your other aspect play in a timely an opportunistic fashion, is what wins Super Bowls.

    Last year is used as more proof for the outdated axiom because a team that was stronger on defense beat the team that was stronger on offense. The fact is, that game fell apart for Denver. Seattle may still win more often than not in the rematches, but that’s because they’re a more balanced team. Their offense isn’t great but it both meshes well with their defense, and it’s capable of making timely plays. It’s very similar to New Orleans and Indy when they won it, but with the roles reversed.

    You can’t win without a competent defense, and from time to time good defense will beat good offense, but all other things being equal, in this league, given the rules today, a powerful offensive team will beat a powerful defensive team more often than not.

    Reggie White and Bill Bergey might disagree, but the game was different in their day, and to look at the future through the eyes of the past can sometimes be extremely limiting.

  102. 102 ACViking said at 11:59 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’m not motivated by what Seattle did.

    More by what I see lacking in this Eagles’ team.

    Cole is finished. He had a short burst of good play in the 3 Q of last season. But he was a non-factor in the last 3 games or so.

    Just want Barr. Probably won’t happen.

  103. 103 Jason said at 12:38 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Couldn’t the ODB/Mike Evans/WR rumors be the smokescreen for Howie’s true target as probes trading up: Barr?

  104. 104 Anders said at 12:40 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    or it could be a smokescreen that isnt really a smokescreen, but everybody just think is a smokescreen so the real target really is ODB? 😛

  105. 105 TheRogerPodacter said at 12:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    ah yes, the double smokescreen! haha

  106. 106 laeagle said at 1:19 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    We can agree on wanting Barr. I’m looking for upside at that position, and Barr brings the potential of a Demarcus Ware type. The others that are talked about look more like solid, rotational guys. Which is fine, but I’m looking for a game changer.

  107. 107 mksp said at 11:48 AM on May 7th, 2014:

    This is what I think happens (and would be okay with). No trades.

    Round 1 (#22) — Brandin Cooks, WR
    Dynamic playmaker, great character, plays bigger than his size, Chip is familiar with him. I think a lot of the noise about bigger receivers is smoke + Cooks is our target. I think this is the pick UNLESS Kyle Fuller or Anthony Barr fall, then I think we take one of those guys.

    Round 2 (#54) — Pierre Desir, CB
    Not sure he falls this far, but prototypical CB for a press scheme, and another good kid. Probably needs a year of seasoning before he can start, which is good for us, can step into Cary’s spot in 2015.

    Round 3 (#86) — Will Clarke, OLB
    Conversion project, but Clarke has the size + violence I think we like. Will definitely get some situational snaps.

    Round 4 (#122) — Ronald Powell, OLB
    We double up on the OLB position with more length.

    Round 5 (#162) — Dontae Johnson, CB
    More length and versatility.

    Round 7 (#237) – Marcel Jensen, TE
    Size, projection.

  108. 108 eagleyankfan said at 12:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I like those pics. I never trust the “plays bigger”. That’s all everyone said about Boykin. Now everyone says he’s not big enough to play outside.

  109. 109 mksp said at 1:09 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I guess in Cooks’ case I think he’s tough and can come down with contested catches, despite his size.

  110. 110 GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I loved Cooks way before he ever became a mock target of the Eagles, and like you, i viewed him as the perfect addition to our offense. but after hearing chip speak at the owners meeting, i would be completely shocked to see the eagles draft him.
    Our HC says he believe WR can either use their size advantage or speed and route running to be successful. But that the rare WRs that have both working for them are the elite NFL WRs…in a draft with a handful of WRs who have that rare size/speed combo being available after 22, i struggle seeing us draft a WR who by chips definition, can be a good player, but will have limitations that keep him from being truly elite..but hey, im a big big fan of the kid and if they draft Cooks, ill have his jersey the next day and i would celebrate the addition…but it would realy really,surprise me.

    I think Chip kelly believe in his ability to coach up young Talent. I dont think chip is looking to see which of these kids he can stick in the lineup and produce right away. I think he is looking at it as who has the most talent to develop into the best player, who has the desire and is coachable to allow chip to turn him into the best players years down the road…Cooks does have some things going for him, like he is said to be one of the most high character and endeering young men in this draft…but will chip really look at cooks and think he can develop him into a better player than every one of the big blazers who will be available?
    Allen Robinson, 6’2 220 4.5, great at coming down with jump balls already good at beating man coverage. Not even 21 years old yet?
    Moncreif 6’2 220 4.40,mgood vertical, blocks his ass off, only 20yrs old?
    Cody latimer 6’3 220 4.43, experienced in high tempo
    martevis bryant, possibly the best Size/speed combo in the entire draft

    Now, me personallt, I cant put into words how much more of a cooks fan I am than Martevis Bryant whos tape i find unwatchable. If we needed a WR to help us win a game this sunday, i would take cook all day. But i find it really hard to believe that chip would think he can make Cooks a better player than every single one of the young, size/speed freaks that will still be on the board at 22. ..
    Best case scenario cooks can develop into a marvin harrison hall of famer.. More likely his ceiling is a steve smith/randall colbb, desean type…I certainly wouldnt scoff at adding any of those players, but i would assume Chip sees someone he can develop into better than Cooks…but today, brandin is certainly one pf the best WRs..

  111. 111 Guest said at 7:21 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Agreed. Kelly wants a wr that doesn’t disappear in the red zone. Latimer would make sense in the 1st, but I’d rather get Barr or Fuller, then get a big wr later.

  112. 112 ACViking said at 12:19 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Re: Late May Draft

    I’m ecstatic that PFT is reporting the NFL is seriously considering moving the draft to the last week of May — so it ends on Memorial Day weekend.

    Maybe in a couple years the Super Bowl can be in late March.

    And the draft can be in June.

    With a half-dozen NFL teams spread throughout the provinces of mainland China.

    What the hell’s goin’ on out there?

  113. 113 TheRogerPodacter said at 12:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    there are some schools that have later semesters, right? like how Ertz couldn’t practice with the team until he was done school or something like that. would it even be possible for the draft to move far back enough that this wouldn’t be a problem anymore? lol

  114. 114 ACViking said at 2:08 PM on May 7th, 2014:


    Answer — NO.

    Pac-12 schools (except for Cal-Berkley) hold graduation ceremonies in mid-June, which is the cutoff after which rookies can join in MTAs

    So unless Goodell plans to move the NFL regular season to October-March, the later draft won’t help the Pac-12 kids make the MTAs.

  115. 115 TheRogerPodacter said at 3:22 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    oh, right. thats usually after they have already had some offseason team activies, right? if they pushed the draft back THAT far, they would have compressed the whole offseason and would probably need to shift the regular season like you said.

  116. 116 Baloophi said at 12:51 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    How about a week between rounds? Trading would be nuts…

  117. 117 ACViking said at 1:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    brilliant idea.

    You should send that to the NFL.

    If you won’t, let me know.

    I’m happy to write Goodell a letter.

  118. 118 mtn_green said at 2:42 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Have them be picked up by helicopters as soon as picked and dropped by parachute into the middle of OTAs

  119. 119 ACViking said at 2:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Now THAT is classic.

    Have a ‘copter for every 1st Rd pick drop the kid at his presser.

  120. 120 GermanEagle said at 5:29 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Wait?! The helicopter is having a poo (ie when dropping the kids). I gotta see that!

  121. 121 GEAGLE said at 3:04 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Wish the world would boycott the draft…just not watch it!! It’s not like we can’t instantly find out who our teams drafted. They deserve NO RATINGS after this torturous two weeks….did you see the story about the NFL considering pushing it back more? I think it’s on PFT

  122. 122 D3FB said at 1:55 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Two picks a day from the combine til camp.

  123. 123 Mike Roman said at 4:12 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I will lose my shit if they actually do that.

  124. 124 ACViking said at 12:29 PM on May 7th, 2014:


    I don’t remember reading your breakdown on Marqise Lee.

    Would you mind summarizing it again in a reply.

    Also, where’s he stack up on the question of “most NFL ready” among the WRs this year?

    And any reaction to his 40 time, in the context of what looks on film to be a pretty nifty, physical runner before and after the catch?

  125. 125 GEAGLE said at 1:05 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Why does who the most NFL ready player is matter? Including that in our evaluations of prospects is a major mistake. You want the player who will develop into the best player 3 years down the road and have the best career…i think who the most ready WRs are is fools gold, often it doesnt coincide with highest ceiling. For example: Cooks will be one of the 5 best WRs from this class next year, but if every single WR reaches their ceiling 3 years from now, cooks probably wouldnt even be top 10… Of course, not every prospect will reach his ceiling, which is why we put so much emphasis in character and work Ethic..

    The Eagles will be looking at the WRs with heighest NFL ceiling, and out of those prospects, we will draft the one we feel will allow us to coach him up, and bust his butt til he reaches that ceiling…

    But I think the WRs who are most suited to make an impact as rookies are Sammy, Evans,ODB, Cooks and Lee

  126. 126 ACViking said at 1:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Q: Why does NFL-ready matter?

    Seems like it should be a factor — at least in my way of thinking — that could impact a player’s transition at the hardest position, next to QB, in the NFL.

    So many talented WRs flame-out.

    I’m just wondering if that factors into the transition.

  127. 127 mksp said at 1:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I think NFL-ready matters because it increases your probability that the player will be successful.

    And drafting successfully is a lot about odds.

  128. 128 ICDogg said at 1:55 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    exactly. It cuts risk.

  129. 129 ACViking said at 1:56 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    that’d be my argument, too

  130. 130 anon said at 1:57 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Also hate to train and pay a guy for 4-5 years only to have him leave after his rookie deal, especially if you only get 2 years of solid production.

  131. 131 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    A –

    Excellent point. ‘specially for players drafted in Rds 1-3, even Rd 4.

    But for lower-round guys in 5-7, who cost so much less, I could see teams taking the opposite view.

  132. 132 GEAGLE said at 2:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    In some cases who is the most ready can coincide with who will be the best player. Sammy Watkins is top 5 most ready WRs in this class, AND he is top 5 in terms of ceiling….. But in some cases it doesn’t match up at all. Brandon Coleman is probably more ready to play in an NFL game right now than Martevis Bryant, but Bryant’s ceiling is on an entirely different level. If we were to chose Coleman over Bryant and both reached their potential! we will be mortified lol
    So yes there are cases where most ready and ceiling coincide, but the only thing you can really count on in every single scenario when factoring in most ready, is who realized more of it’s potential at this point in time

  133. 133 ACViking said at 2:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    By the way . . . that’d be my argument.

    I don’t know, ultimately, if it matters.

  134. 134 eagleyankfan said at 2:41 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I’m with you here. I think some players would benefit by staying in college. One guy I always think about is DHB. He came out too early and never really got rolling.

  135. 135 GEAGLE said at 2:43 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    You have to admit that in some cases most ready does not equal highest ceiling… Most ready only means that they have realized more potential at this point than his competitors.. And most ready can be skewed by so many different variables. Bodies maturing faster, QBs they played with, coaching they were getting, who had to play through less injuries…
    I just don’t see how a,team that has a coaching staff that proved to be good teachers coaching up young talent and clearly won’t sign superstars in free agency! can prioritize ANYTHING over who has the heighest ceiling and the character to let us coach him up to realize all his potential to reach that ceiling? How can anything else matter if you aren’t willing to sign other teams stars?

  136. 136 GEAGLE said at 2:35 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Think it depends on a few factors, but in OUR case, I think it holds NO weight..

    It matters when a GM or coach are on the hot seat and are desperate to save their job. We have a smart owner who is allowing us to build the right way
    It matters depending what your GM thinks of the coaching staff. Take Andy Reid for example. He is a GREAT NFL coach, but like all coaches, he has strengths and weakness. great preperation coach, Not so great game day coach. If I’m Howie Roseman, i would worry more about drafting NFL ready players than I would for Chip Kelly,

    you have a coach in Chip, and his staff who just proved to be brilliant at coaching up young talent and player development. A,coach in Chip who NEVER had a top 10 recruiting class, yet always coached players up to form a top team. He would lose a player, and next player up would look better than the player they lost. This dynamic is also why I don’t for one second believe that we would trade a bunch of pics in a deep draft to move up for a better player…
    We have a GM,Coach, who our owner believes in and will Grant them the stability to have a chance to build for the long run.,..we also clearly don’t believe on breaking the bank open to sign superstar free agents. We are Commited to drafting and developing our own superstars, so you cant afford to be short sited and worry about who will help you the most next year,,,it all has to be about who has the tools to be developed into the best player, and who has the personality,mwork ethic, drive to allow the coaches to develop them into the best player…
    If you have great scheme coaches, great game day coaches, but who don’t have the patience to develop young players, or your coach and GM feel that they don’t have the job security to wait for kids to be coached up, thats when most NFL ready matters…
    If I’m Denver, and I have a legend who’s body is falling apart and the talent around him to win a SB, I sure as hell won’t be spending first round pick on a guy like Dion Jordan who has the highest ceiling! but needs a year or two to develop. The broncos have to desperately take advantage of the window they have before it slams shut and they have to start the Brock osweiler era. The broncos can’t afford to take the upside of a Allen Robinson. They need to draft the Cooks, ODBs who are ready to contribute day one…

    We NEED to draft and develop superstars. If you aren’t going to go sign Josh Gordon or Demaryious Thomas in free agency next year, then I don’t think you can be short sited and let, instant gratification factor into the equation

    Let me,ask people an honest question..curious to hear responses. I know they aren’t the same player, but how much better can Cooks be then Desean? How much higher is his ceiling? Marvin? Steve smith? Colbb? Cruz?..lesser talent Iike Santana Moss or Santinio Holmes? How much better than deseam can cooks be? Chip clearly felt Desean wasn’t worth 10 Mil…

  137. 137 D3FB said at 3:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    The sparknotes version:

    He’s a willing blocker, and will fight for balls, but between some
    issues with his hands and him being so light, I have my reservations.
    He’s personally my number 5 receiver behind: Watkins, Evans, ODB, an
    Cooks. I think he’s a good player but I’m apathetic about if we should go after him.

  138. 138 anon said at 3:48 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    He did look tiny on TV, that was my major complaint (outside of hands / injury)

  139. 139 D3FB said at 3:58 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yea I don’t think he played in the 190 range. He was probably 175-180. Look at ODB then look at him. One of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not quite the same.

  140. 140 ACViking said at 4:32 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Thank you.

    By the way, what exactly do you do — or plan to do if you’re still in college — for a living?

    Forgive my asking, but you’re insights — not to mention your writing skills — are excellent.

    To my way of reading, at least.

    T-Law . . . you’re still No. 1 here!

    Baloophi — no one tops your satirical work.

  141. 141 D3FB said at 5:53 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Thank you for the kind words. I had considered coaching or scouting but I think if it was a job it would take alot of the passion and fun out of it for me. I’m a liberal arts college Econ major with a few classes left to take, so something econ(y)(ish).

  142. 142 Baloophi said at 12:48 PM on May 7th, 2014:




    With the NFL draft right around the corner it’s time to remind everyone of all the hard work Tommy and Sam do to bring us this special space. It takes a lot of time and effort to continually create new content, maintain the website, and respond to questions / comments /death threats after a mock draft. With that in mind, I’d like to ask everyone here to take a minute of your own time and consider making a donation in any amount to Iggles Blitz.

    Each year I’ve asked for an increasing number of donations and this year the goal is 35 – up ten from last year. If we can hit 35 before the draft, I will make a three-digit contribution to IgglesBlitz. In the past I’ve named a per donation dollar amount but being “between jobs” at the moment I’m afraid I can’t commit to a specific amount for fear of Mrs. Baloophi kicking me to the couch – and she has much better legs than Alex Henery. That sounds weird.

    Your annual contributions go a long way toward acquiring and maintaining a tape library, licensing and legal fees, Megan Fox blow-up dolls, and bribes to Swoop for inside information.

    On the right hand side of the page under the “Blog Roll” is a “DONATE” button. Please consider giving any amount you feel comfortable with to a resource I know you all enjoy as much as I do. No need to post how much you have given, and if you’re not able to at this time, please consider “voting up” this post so it’s front and center for others.

    I know many of you graciously donated to the site just a couple months ago to help get Tommy to the Senior Bowl and that he was enormously grateful. Now let’s help keep the site going for the 2014 season!

    NOTE: Tommy and Sam have not solicited this challenge in any way, shape or form and will undoubtedly shy away from it. Besides, they should be busy preparing for the inevitable fallout when the Eagles trade all their picks to move up and draft Johnny Manziel.

  143. 143 Baloophi said at 12:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    @ Tumtum
    Did I miss you the other day? I got confused with your edited reply…

  144. 144 daveH said at 1:13 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    ill be psyched to get a premier OLB and premier Safety .. and a beast lineman O first, D second.
    any athletic WR available works for me. letting DJax walk and trade UP for rookie WR just doesnt add up and wud frustrate me to no end. “deck chairs on the Titanic” in my opinion.

  145. 145 GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Clinton Dix says he really wants to play for the eagles and that we should go up to get him.
    Doubt we add a,safety high when our front 7 still needs work and we havent seen how much wolff and nate can grow in year two yet… guess is that we add a CB/S versatile DB in the 4th or 5th round like dontae johnson(wolffs team mate) or Antone Exum..and if Wolff or nate dont use this year to grab the starting safety spot by the throat, we will spend a high pick on a safety next year…

  146. 146 ACViking said at 2:03 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    If the Eagles trade up for HSD . . . then we’ve learned that Kelly has a VERY different view about the Front-7 than Reid.

    That is, assuming Barr’s still on the board.

  147. 147 GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yeah,crazy to see how many lineman we drafted since Buddy left…

  148. 148 daveH said at 2:17 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    premier DE also works yes.

  149. 149 A_T_G said at 4:36 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Dix said that? Does anyone remember a draft prospect saying something like that before? That seems like something an agent would strongly discourage. Do you have the link?

  150. 150 GEAGLE said at 4:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    ODB also said he wants to come here and he loved the crab fries…we took him and Jordan Mathews to chickies and peters…if our media members ask them, of course they will say something about the team

  151. 151 GEAGLE said at 1:16 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Impossible to know who we will draft at 22.. But i think we have a chance at figuring out who we wouldnt draft at 22, so we can narrow down our pick a little bit…who are the round 1 talents that fans think the eagles would pass on?

    1) Mike Evans… I cant say we would pass on him if he were to fall to 22, but i do not believe we would ever trade up for him. We want versatile players that can line up all over the place and function as interchangable parts in our offense. Too much projecting involved in drafting a kid who ran 3 routes in college and exclusively lined up on the right side.
    2) Ebron…i hoped he fell to us, but if he does, i think we would pass on drafting him.. “Its not just about what a player can do, but also about what a player will sacrafice”..cant see Chip spending a first round pick on a guy said to be a “high maintence”, “MEsean” type who will always be worried about getting his touches..
    3)’Dennard and Verrett…do they resemble any of the CBs chip went out and aquired since arriving in Philly? Verrett says he models his game after assante samuel lol

    4) Brandin Cooks…as good as he is,mhe will always be limited. Wgy would chip draft a kid he doesnt view as having elite NFL ceiling, when there are a handful of guys with the rare size/speed dynamic that can be had after 22

    5) dee Ford…if the people at auburn dont believe he can play OLB,mwhy would we? Too much projecting involved with dafting him…how will he rush from the right side? How will he rush standing up? How will he drop back? Just the fact that he is going around thinking we want him, leads me to believe we have no interest. Dont see any chance we would draftchim with marcus and Attaboy still on the board

    Any other round 1 prospects fans feel wemcan rule out.

  152. 152 ACViking said at 1:31 PM on May 7th, 2014:


    I really like your argument for why the Eagles shouldn’t be expected to draft Cooks.

    Damned lawyerly.

  153. 153 GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I hate having to make that argument, because I really really like that kid, and i have been a big fan way before he was ever talked about as a potential eagles pick…if i hear his name called, i will be THRILLED..but i would also be SHOCKED! As much as i like him, i just dont believe we would draft him…

  154. 154 ACViking said at 1:59 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Your argument is exactly what the Talking Head-types on NFL Network and ESPN to *not* take into account.

    Roseman’s on record basically describing Kelly’s ideal CB in terms of size. The Birds’ CB free-agent signings the past 2 off-seasons confirm.

    Why shouldn’t we believe Kelly when he describes what he envisions as an elite WR?

    And especially this draft with so many big WRs.

    Unless the Eagles are blowing smoke and want to get a short, fast, stout WR like Cooks — which I don’t think they do.

  155. 155 GEAGLE said at 3:02 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yes sir… It’s too soon to know a lot about how we will operate, and this draft will certainly increase our understanding of how this new regime will operate, but there are some things I think we have learned and can’t ignore about certain positions.
    1) Outside CB. We friggin signed 3 CB who are all similar since Chip arrived. And our best CB who differs from those 3, we refuse to move to the outside…so unless Dennard is the second coming of Dion Sanders, mocking him to us is a Joke!

    2) Pass,rusher. This player NEEDS to be versatile enough to play standing up and stick his hand in the dirt when we go to our 4 man lines..surprise surprise that’s exactly who Travis long is and I’d bet my bottom dollar there is film of the OLB we draft doing both(Marcus,Attaucho…NOT Dee Ford).

    3)’NT…I’d bet this kid will have nice arm length and be more mobile than the typical 3-4 space eating NTs. The kid we add probably will project as those NT/DE, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a kid that some teams consider a DE and don’t even look at as a NT….credible enough to anchore against the run, but Mobil enough to switch to a 4-3DT on the fly if teams don’t let us sub our Nickle package on the field(with Malcom Jenkins moving to slot CB)
    Hopefully this draft will helps us learn more about the future under Chip, but there are some signs out there that is so refusing to consider

  156. 156 Ark87 said at 2:24 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Yeah I like cooks too, part of that is spending too much time with big Red, dynamic guys like Cooks are exciting. But the other part is it would be interesting to see Chip use cooks like he did DAT. But you’re right, there are other interesting and cheaper options for a guy like that (Dri Archer possibly?)

  157. 157 Mike Roman said at 1:45 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I decided to do my own mock draft with projected trades so you guys can rip me to shreds.

  158. 158 anon said at 1:53 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I like it and i hate all these mock drafts. This, at least, was really thoughtful.

  159. 159 Mike Roman said at 2:02 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I figured if the rest of the world can take a shot in the dark, I might as well have a go at it. Also, I really don’t see anyway that Tampa makes that move. Just figured I’d do something different based on the rumors i’ve been reading today.

  160. 160 ICDogg said at 1:54 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    It’s fun to keep trading back with firstpick and end up owning the entire 5th round.

  161. 161 ACViking said at 2:01 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Try to acquire 35 picks. It’s hard. But can be done.

  162. 162 Tom W said at 1:55 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Who I want to get when for eagles list:

    A) 2 Wrs
    1) ODB 1st or later
    2) Latimer 1st or later
    3) Robinson 2d or later
    4) Adams 2d or later
    5) Bryant 3d or later
    6) Moncrief 3d or later
    7) Norwood 4th or later
    8) Ellington 4th or later
    9) Huff 5th or later
    10) Herron 4th or later
    11) Coleman 5th or later
    12) Janis 6th or later
    13) Evans 6th or later

    B) Edge OLB
    1) Barr 15 or lower
    2) AttaBoy 1st or later
    3) Marcus Smith 1st or later
    4) Trent Murphy 4th or later (not ideal)
    5) Will Clarke 4th or later
    6) Ronnie Powell – 5th or later

    C) ILB
    1) Mosley 22 or later
    2) Van Noy 1st or later
    3) christian jones — 3d or later
    4) Kirksey — 4th or later
    5) lamin barrow – 5th or later
    6) preston brown – 5th or later
    7) jordie tripp — 6th or later

    D) Corner
    1) Gilbert – 22 or later
    2) Fuller – 26 or later
    3) Baptiste – 3d or later
    3) Desir – 3d or later
    4) P Gaines – 4th or later
    5) Colvin – 4th or later
    6) Exum – 4th or later
    7) T Mitchell – 4th or later
    8) W Aikens – 5th or later
    9) Richardson – 6th or later

    E) Safety
    1) Haha – 22 or later
    2) Buchanon – 54 or later
    3) Dontae Johnson – 4th or later
    4) Antone Exum – 4th or later
    5) Watkins – 4th or later
    6) Vereen – 5th or later
    7) Huff – 6th or later
    8) Dowling – 6th or later
    9) Sunseri – 7th or later

    F) 5tech
    1) Urban – 5th or later
    2) Hart – 7th or later

    G) Nose
    1) Ego Ferguson 4th or later
    1a) K. Quarles – 5th or later
    2) Deandre Coleman – 6th or later
    3) Stephens – 6th or later
    4) Kerr – 7th or later

    H) Guard
    1) Brandon Thomas – 4th or later
    2) Dozier – 4th or later
    3) Halapio – 6th or later
    4) Spencer Long and Trey Hopkins – 6th or later

    I) TE
    1) ASF – third or later
    2) Amaro – third or later
    3) CJ Fed – fourth or later
    4) arthur lynch – fifth or later
    5) colt lyeria – fifth or later
    6) rodgers – sixth or later
    7) Jensen – seventh or later

    J) RB
    1) Tre mason – third or later
    2) Sankey, Sims, Seatrunk – 4th or later
    3) McKinnon – 5th or later
    4) DAT or Dri Archer – 5th or later
    5) Storm Johnson – 6th or later
    6) James Wilder Jr – 7th or later

  163. 163 jayanglada said at 1:56 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Tommy — As usual, really like your mock. The only qualification is that I don’t think we can wait ’til the 5th to address DB shortcomings.

  164. 164 GEAGLE said at 1:57 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Just for fun, i went back to look at my old notes.. And I always do a predictipn for the next years draft, right after each draft ends…fun to see how much a players stock change, how much your opinion of what eagles need changes in 365 days..

    After last years draft ended, these are he players I thought we would target this year:
    1) Bradley Roby..would have been the top CB had he come out last year, THE CB version of marquis lee..
    2) Colt Lyerla…oh how the mighty have fallen. Still wouldnt mind taking a late flier on this round two talent
    3) Vic Beasley….doubt we will target him next after gathing new intel this year..
    IMO i think the 2014 draft will be about gettng chip his own offensive toys to play with and solidifying our front 7. ..with 2015 draft being used to add young talent at OL and DBs….if that holds true, round 1 next year should be interesting because of Oregon top CB Olomu and C/G prospect Hroniss Grasu…Chip didnt really have a chance to draft Dion,Long and Kiko s we still really dont know if the oregon connection will really matter, and Oregon doesnt gve any top prospects in this years draft…but its safe to assume we will need a CB and G/C next year so it will be curious to see if we pass on the ducks top prospects

  165. 165 eagleyankfan said at 3:03 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    If the Eagles looked to move up — a good trading partner could the be Rams second pick. I’m not sure who the Eagles would want at 13 but if the Rams stay at 2, they might be open to sliding back and still finding value at 22.

  166. 166 GEAGLE said at 4:03 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Chip Kelly is a “teacher” known for never having a top recruiting class, yet coaching it up to be a top team. A guy who would lose players and plug a new guy in and make that guy look even better…..doesnt sound like someone will think one player will be worth using multiple picks to go get…I’d be very surprised if we moved up. Thankfully we are about to find out

  167. 167 ACViking said at 4:45 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Stanford’s DE Ben Gardner . . .

    After reading this article by Packers’ excellent beat guy Bob McGinn, Gardner sounds just like the kind of guy Kelly would love to have here.

    Gardner, 6’4″, lightened up to 265 lbs for Stanford’s Pro Day — and ran both a 20-yard shuttle and 3-cone drill that topped Clowney’s.

    Here’s the story.

    Also, McGinn’s twitter links to several position previews loaded with scouts’ comments on the top 10-15 players at each position.

    For example, here’s McGinn’s summary on the top WRs and TEs. Great, great stuff.

  168. 168 Insomniac said at 5:00 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    The thing with Gardner is that he doesn’t really fit a position. Too light to play 3-4 DE even though he played as one in college. Not fast enough to be a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. He’ll be a Joe Kruger-type project for a 3-4 team.

  169. 169 D3FB said at 5:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I think he can be a day 3 guy that you know is only ever going to be your nickel rusher, but he does that very well. You can never have a pass rushers and for a late day 3 pick, you get a guy who will play 300ish or so snaps a year generate some pressures and put up a few sacks. Compared to most of the guys you get in that range I think he’d be a great pick.

  170. 170 Insomniac said at 6:23 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    True. His weight is my only concern. I assume he plays at 270ish so maybe he could get up to 290ish like Kruger is doing.

  171. 171 D3FB said at 7:22 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    He was listed at 277 last year. He carried it well. He’s not someone you would ever expect to become a starter so if he can be 280- 285 that’s more than enough size to hold up against any run plays and he still maitains his athleticism for passing downs.

  172. 172 GEAGLE said at 4:50 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    What if the Eagles do business with the Jaguars?

    Jaguars have the fire power to afford to be greedy, and take Watkins,Clowney or Mack and still be able to trade and get a QB because they have plenty of firepower, #3,39,70,105,114,144,150,159..that’s 8 picks in the first 5 rounds. And then they also have two 6s and a 7…

    The new formula for new NFL coaches, is veteran QB in place to implement the offense, Nd year two you draft your young QB. Gus Badley has Henne, time to get his young QB. Gus is a defensive guy and will have a chance to fill his most important position with Mack or Clowney…or draft Sammy since they don know what’s up with Blacmon…but they.need a QB, luckily they have the firepower to get greedy and pass on a QB at #3

    Jags will draft Mack/Clowney, problem is they have the 7 pick in round two. And plenty teams will try to get their QB in 26 to early round two range… could the bills decide to jump all the teams looking to get a QB in the 26-36 range, jump Cleveland. Jump KC and trade up to #22 from #39?
    Jaguars coming away with Khalil Mack/Sammy Watkins AND Teddy/Manziel/Carr would be a score for the jags and probably more valuable than their 5 picks in rounds 4 and 5..,

    could we see the eagles trade all the way to 39 so jags can get Teddy/Manziel/Carr/BOrtles and we would end up with something like:
    #39 Allen,Robinson
    And a 6th round,pick?

    They would have Mack,Brudgewater, one 4th and three 5ths

    We would have:

  173. 173 Joe from Easton said at 4:57 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Kinda want to pick in the top 35… greedy, I know.

  174. 174 George said at 5:05 PM on May 7th, 2014:


  175. 175 GEAGLE said at 6:17 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Wish he,would crip walk onto our roster

  176. 176 anon said at 7:41 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Would be great, but CK would never allow it. Though maybe once we get the lockerroom in order we can start taking guys like that b/c he’s a straight BEAST.

  177. 177 GEAGLE said at 7:49 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I think this notion that Chip wants choir boys is BS…Chip wants guys who are team players, who will do anything asked of them to win whether it’s a flashy job or grunt job..guys who will really commit to winning, go to bed when they are supposed to, eat what they are supposed to…a guy can smoke Pot and still fit that criteria…Kyle long had a drug/alcohol problem and he loves Chip Kelly…Dion Jordan smokes weed and Chip loves him.. He recruited Lyerla..
    Braman was in trouble for drugs. Kiko is a maniac(who knows how many bodies he has in his freezer)..
    I don’t think we would trade for Blacmon, because one more strike and he is gone..but if he got released, I could see us take a flier on him…Lurie is known for second chances..some people deserve another chance…Not all, but some..

  178. 178 GEAGLE said at 7:53 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Funny, baldi just,predicted jags with all their picks will trade up from 39 in front of everyone to draft Manziel after he falls. Tho he didn’t say trade with eagles..didn’t name a team

  179. 179 doon said at 5:02 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Great work Tommy. To be fair, I don’t think the Eagles will trade back and, since he failed a drug test, C. Jones will work elsewhere. The Eagles seem very big on getting “Character” guys

  180. 180 Sifter said at 5:16 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Anyone checked out Bob McGinn’s top 100 yet? He’s got excellent connections and usually knows what’s going down. Shamar Stephen is in there…so sorry Tommy, other teams are on to him and he won’t be going in the 7th. Interesting to see who isn’t in the top 100. Zach Mettenberger isn’t, a few edge rushers like Jackson Jeffcoat, Trevor Reilly, Carl Bradford aren’t either. Keith McGill isn’t there. Theoretically those guys should be 4th rounders. Given that some decent edge guys might slide, there’s probably no need for the Eagles to reach for one, unless they really like one.

    And my dream scenario (assuming Barr, HaHa or Mosley don’t fall to us) is WR-Latimer, ILB-Van Noy and S-Joyner in the top 3 rounds. Think we could probably trade back a bit for Latimer, might have to trade up for Joyner. Then take the best edge rusher that’s left in round 4.

  181. 181 phillychuck said at 7:04 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Slightly modified, my ideal scenario:

    1. Latimer or Lee or ODB if he slips
    2. Attaocho (who I strongly suspect will not be there) or Marcus Smith (OLB/DE)
    3(early). If Mason is there, go for him. If not, grab Dakota Dozier (G).
    3(late). Will Clarke (OLB/DE) or DaQuan Jones (DT)
    4(early). Get your CB of Desir or Cockrell or Reynolds should be on the board
    4(late). Second wideout, Jeff Janis
    5. Halapio (G), Wentworth (OT) or Brown (ILB) If you didn’t take DaQuan Jones earlier, you might want Kelce Quarles (DT) here.

    7. I like the Michigan State safety, Isiah Lewis, here, or a CB.

  182. 182 anon said at 7:29 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Jarvis Landry needs to be on every mock.

  183. 183 Insomniac said at 8:33 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Landry in the 3rd. Move the sticks.

  184. 184 phillychuck said at 10:42 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    I think Landry might be gone before Mason. Regardless, if you take a WR in round 1, I think the other one has to be round 4 or after given the team has other needs. Finally, I think Janis might be better than Landry in a few years.

  185. 185 Insomniac said at 11:30 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Janis has a higher ceiling but Landry has those intangibles that a lot of the WRs in this draft don’t have. Either way he’s going to be drafted and will be fun to watch.

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 7:42 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    If BPA really existed, how do teams talk trades before the draft? If you trade up from 7 to 2, I doubt their is much difference in the grades.. You trade up to get YOUR guy, but how do you have “a guy” if you are operating under BPA. BPA just mean NO COMMENT, I’ll draft whoever I damn please even if fans disagree with the position..

  187. 187 A Roy said at 7:47 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    There’s so little thought in that comment that it’s not worth it to argue the point. You can do better. You’re getting rammy waiting for Thursday.

  188. 188 GEAGLE said at 7:50 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    How does a GM like Snead go out and say “at some point we will draft a QB”…and in the next breath talk about his BPA strategy? … But you aren’t wrong.. I’m losing my mind. Just did a friggin mock drafting Zack Martin haha that’s how bored I am

  189. 189 A Roy said at 7:52 PM on May 7th, 2014:


  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 7:59 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Mayock releasing his only mock draft tonight on NFL network at 9pm..they are trying to make n event out of him doing a mock, like his one mock is the mock bible

  191. 191 Baloophi said at 8:01 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    If you could pick the worst day of the year for your TV to suddenly stop working and require a couple days in the shop, would it be today?


  192. 192 D3FB said at 9:10 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    It’s ok the girlfriend decided we are leaving tommorrow to go visit her grandmother on Cape Cod. She’s a cool old lady and the cape is awesome but come on! I’ve been watching tape since last August, this isn’t cool.

  193. 193 Insomniac said at 9:31 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Luckily I have 3 TVs and 3 monitors. If all else fails, I’d just go chill at my cousins and watch the draft with him.

  194. 194 Anders said at 4:33 AM on May 8th, 2014:

    The draft is streamed legally on or

  195. 195 Charlie Kelly said at 9:02 PM on May 7th, 2014:

    Trent Murphy is so underrated.

  196. 196 Anders said at 4:33 AM on May 8th, 2014:

    If only he could bend 🙁

  197. 197 Charlie Kelly said at 3:38 PM on May 8th, 2014:

    I bet your a huge fan of small school prospect Ben Dover 😉