Saturday Night Stuff
Posted: November 8th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 325 Comments »You look at the standings and see Carolina in 2nd place in the NFC South. Their record is 3-5-1. That’s not good, but isn’t the end of the world. But in the last 7 games, they are 1-5-1. Yikes.
Carolina started 2-0 and they’ve just fallen apart since then. How can a team with Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly play that badly?
GM Dave Gettleman made some questionable decisions in the offseason and they are biting him in the butt right now. The Panthers have issues on the OL, in the secondary and with receivers. Those were need areas in the offseason and they didn’t get addressed nearly enough.
One receiver they did add was Kelvin Benjamin. They used their 1st round pick on him and he’s been outstanding for Carolina. I wanted no part of Benjamin after studying his tape. Obviously the young man has cleaned up some issues with his game and playing in the NFL has brought out the best in him. That’s always the x-factor. Some kids come to the NFL and are overwhelmed. Some see that it is time to act like a man and they thrive. Kudos to Benjamin for playing well.
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With Mark Sanchez as the starter, Matt Barkley becomes the backup. Tim McManus wrote about him recently.
Barkley, though, believes he is in a much better place as a signal-caller than he was a year ago. For one, he is healthier. As questions about his arm strength swirled, the USC product suggested at the time that the separated shoulder he suffered his senior year wasn’t an issue. But it was.
“It was hurting, hurting quite a bit,” he said, “affecting my ability to come over the top so I had to adjust everything to the side and I wasn’t getting power on the ball, enough velocity as I should have.
“I was taught at a young age from my coaches to take the blame. As a quarterback the responsibility of the team is on your back and never blame anyone else, including an excuse or something that might hinder you.”
Barkley has regained his strength, he says, and is hitting personal highs in the weight room and from a conditioning standpoint. Mentally, he feels that he has a good grasp of the system.
“I’m comfortable enough to where I have no doubts to where the ball is going on plays or what my reads are,” he said. “Your senses are heightened a bit knowing that you are one snap away. I think my job is to support Mark and support this team by being mentally ready and physically prepared to go in a moment’s notice, which I think I am.
“As a man and as a football player you want to be challenged and you want to push yourself and your abilities and it’s kind of hard to do that when you’re third string not getting any reps. It’s not the spotlight you want to be in, it’s not records, you want to be challenged and you want to be pushed. It’s fun to be in that position again.”
I don’t know what to say about Barkley. I know he is dying to get on the field and show what he can do, but he’s not exactly lit it up when he has played. At the same time, we see him with backups in the offseason. When he played last year, the Eagles were losing and had to throw the ball. We have yet to see Barkley play in a favorable situation.
I think he can still succeed in the NFL, but Barkley has to accept who he is. His days of being a star in high school and college are over. The thing he needs to do now is play within himself. Too often he’s forcing things and trying to make plays. That is when mistakes happen.
Maybe we’ll get to see an Eagles blowout where Barkley can get on the field late and doesn’t have to worry about leading a comeback.
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Need your Appalachian State football highlight of the day?
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One benefit to Mark Sanchez being a veteran is that starting a Monday night game won’t be a big deal to him. He has done that before and playing in the spotlight shouldn’t be an issue.
Chip Kelly is 2-0 in MNF games.
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Glad you talked about Barkley. Been thinking about him as the backup once the full weight of the Foles injury hit home.
It makes me extra nervous that we are one bad hit away from Matt as our QB. Maybe he proves my expectations completely wrong, but I hope he never sees the field this year.
I wouldn’t mind him playing if it is week 17 and the starters are resting after securing their first round bye…
Chip doesnt rest starters… See the epic ass whooping of the Bears last year
Amen to that.
The thing he needs to do now is play with(in) himself.
That’s some serious ‘Saturday night stuff’, my friend.
Are you the master of your domain?
i have a certain level of confidence in barkley, i dont know why… or exactly how much… but its certain
i am certain, i am not certain about anything you post.
denim chicken?
worm hat
corduroy cow.
I was a fan of KB. He seemed to be loved or hated by Eagles fans before the draft. He is showing what he did in the championship game.
He was 4-54-1 in the National Championship game. Yes he had the game winner, but he didn’t take over the game or anything along those lines.
He is averaging just over 4 receptions and 65 yds a game this year. So what I said is pretty accurate. I like him because of his size and how he can elevate over defenders.
He is at the top of the dropped passes list this year.
Should be a win for us monday. Only way i really see the Birds dropping this one is if Sanchez has a god awfull night, or Cam somehow managing to kill us with his legs, specifically on 3rd down. As far as Sanchez having a bad night i think the Eagles are really going to go into ground and pound mode with all 3 backs considering how bad Car is against the run, which will take alot off Sanchez’s shoulders. Bold prediction for the game is that Eagles D scores a TD on a pick 6. Jordan Mathews will also score another TD, and will have his best game yet in terms of yardage.
Drank a monster to late at night, cant sleep. Anyone else think that its a good chance that Tobin is not only going to finish the season out, but that its very possible that he is going to be our starting RG next year? If he continues his development and keeps getting better as the season goes on i wouldnt be shocked at all if Herremans was cut and Tobin is our new RG.
Tobin has played well. He will likely be in competition with a price reduced Todd or a mid round rookie to start next year.
Todd, if he doesn’t take a reduction, might not be here. His cap hit is too much for a guy in that stage of his career. Given his salary data for 2015
http://eaglescap.com/Players/ToddHerremans.html
he should be reducted to a $1.2 million dollar salary so he only counts $2.4 vs the cap no matter if he’s cut or not. That gets the Eagles $2.8 back vs. the cap for 2015.
Didn’t djax do this once? Duck fumble return.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/gamecast?gameId=400548304&version=mobile&date=20141108&groupId=80#
He did it multiple times. He did it at Cal too. Some guys just don’t learn.
Haha
“How can a team with Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly play that badly?”
Because he sucks at quarterbacking? QB rating of 81 this year. 72 career TD passes, but has 68 career INTs and fumbles.
He should be playing TE, WR, or end. Shame no coach had the brains to put the guy in the correct position.
Don’t tell this Anders. 😉
“GM Dave Gettleman made some questionable decisions in the offseason and they are biting him in the butt right now. The Panthers have issues on the OL, in the secondary and with receivers. Those were need areas in the offseason and they didn’t get addressed nearly enough.”
You mean the superstar DC in Carolina can’t get any guys coached up to step into roles vacated by departing / suspended players? I’m absolutely shocked that a sucky bum like McDermott is utterly failing in his job. NUMBER 32 RANKED RED ZONE D AND WORST RED ZONE D IN 30 YEARS IN THE NFL WILL NEVER GO AWAY!
Kelly played against Barkley and drafted him.
Kelly played against Sanchez and signed him.
Kelly played against Foles, and chose to coach the team he was on.
Kelly now has all three on his team.
Kelly is a smart coach.
Did Kelly coach against any ILBs or S that are better than Nate Allen and Casey Matthews?
If I read the article correctly,the discussion was the qb situation.
I’m aware of that, I just wanted to badmouth continued positions / players of annoyance.
He coached against a team who had Erik Kendricks. My single favorite ILB draft target.
Not really any good safeties in the PAC-12 right now.
Any upgrade, even at just one spot, is an upgrade!
Could the NFL programmers at Fox and CBS suck any more at life if they tried?
Stillers @ Jets and Cowboys “@” Jags – 1 PM
Giants @ Seattle – 4 PM.
Really? KC /. Buffalo , Miami / Detriot are both far superior games to the garbage Pittsburgh/NY tilt being shown on CBS at 1. Both fan bases in that game are complete and total scum worthy of nothing more than corrective fist-based dental work if the dare to root on their teams in my city/region. F them both.
Dallas/Jacksonville on Fox over showing Saints/ Niners is a total joke. Who on earth wants to watch Dallas in the Philly area unless they’d also like to be a crime statistic.
We’re stuck with Giants @ Seattle at 4 because it is Fox’s best “game” at that point. Poor scheduling.
PHILADELPHIA IS NOT PITTSBURGH, NEW YORK, OR DALLAS!
PUT THE BEST GAMES ON!
Most people on these boards, I think, would prefer to watch an NFC East game than an out-of-division match.
There’s a system for determining broadcasts, not a “superior game” whim.
It’s hardly a whim hoss. Just look at combined records and/or number of players on fantasy teams. The games I mentioned would be vastly more interesting.
That’s almost as stupid as the current system, I’m sure the NFL will switch over in the next couple of years.
Seeing KC / Buffalo (combined 10-6, both in the playoff hunt) or Miami / Detroit (combined 11-5, both in the playoff hunt) as superior games to Pittsburgh / Jets (combined 7-11 record) isn’t stupid at all.
And catering to scumbags from New York metro area and inbreds from non-Philadelphia areas of PA is far more stupid. New York and Pittsburgh fan bases literally have to be two of the worst collection of human beings alive.
MM:
Back in the ’70s and ’80s, even the early ’90s, when the NFC East was THE DOMINANT DIVISION, you always saw a quality game on Sunday when the Birds were on MNF.
But now? The NFL is so diluted. And teams so uneven.
I’ll take the odds of a quality match-up — on paper at least — any time.
Because there are just so many BAD games every Sunday.
So I’m w/ you. (Although I’m in the South — but the point’s the same.)
Thank you! I wish the programmers at CBS and Fox would update themselves in the manner you described.
You’re talking primetime games, which they do try for “good games”, same with the national game-of-the-week.
The fact is that broadcast markets are local, so even if you might think Steelers fans are “scumbags” (which is a pretty sociopathic statement) it’s well determined that there’s a strong geographic interest in watching their games.
BB:
I understand the premise used by Networks.
Seemed like Dallas was on every Sunday — even the early game, if the Eagles were playing late or on MNF or on NBC (the old AFC channel).
It’s a premise that I assume is statistically justified.
The NFL TV-watching market’s changed so much in the past 10 years.
But I do understand the theory. For sure.
Right on.
Once DirecTv’s contract is up (after next season, I think), it’s all moot anyway.
Odds are that the NFL is going to drop them and partner with Google or Apple or some other provider that will circumvent satellite/cable subscription entirely.
It’s going to be the next huge cash boom for the league. I wouldn’t be surprised if it leads to major changes vis-a-vis collective bargaining and even international play.
BB:
Sadly, Direct TV and the NFL extended the contract recently.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11624442/nfl-extends-sunday-ticket-deal-directv
Damn. I missed that. I saw the stories about Google and Apple getting involved.
That geographic interest needs to be extinguished.
So you’re a Pittsburgh fan?
Absolutely. I’m going to put on my Crosby jersey right on as soon as I’m done changing my feminine hygiene product.
I want to watch the cowboys lose to the Jags…. Even if Cowboys aren’t a complete joke and can steal the win, it’s probably going to come at the expense of Romo…say what you will about the Jags, but they been hitting and roughing up QBs all year… The one thing that team can do is rough up your QB, and these fraudulent panzies don’t have the trust in their team to play a 1-8 team with their backüp QB…
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Can’t wait to watch a Jaguar crash into Romos back!
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Win or lose today, my gut says Dallas Wont like the price they have to pay today…. If they have any brains someone will sit Romo out of this game and let him rest thru the bye week.
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You have Demarco Murray, Dez and Witten, and you don’t have the confidence to beat the crappy Jags without Romo?
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Why have a backup QB if you have no trust in him? Might as well Not waste a roster spot, go with a WR at emergency QB, and if rOno gets hurt, then pick up a backup….why waste a roster spot if you don’t trust Weeden to lead a 6-3 team against the 1-8 Jags?
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The best run game, the best OL, most improved defense…my ass! Moron analyst actually believed in these clowns
Cowpussies
It was a real treat watching Oregon last night. Marcus Mariota is an amazing quarterback.
92 career touchdown passes to just 12 interceptions.
Oregon gets on my nerves… They have a bunch of kids that all wear the same jersey numbers. It’s soo annoying. Why do they do that? How can other players besides Marriotta wear number 8? Feel like 5’players wear #9 Along with Arik Armstead.
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I put the game on to watch Arik and Star Ltululei little brother Lowell, but ended up watching Oregon DE Deforrest Buckner the entire time.Lowell Lotululie intruigs me, but we are set at NT.. He isn’t as agile athletic as Star, but he is stronger and biggest then star was when he got to Utah
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LSU Cb Jalen Collins had a rough night trying to match up with Amari Cooper, Tho I like that he plays mostly man in college.. Tho I wonder if the 6’2 195lb CB(that would fill out “dreadlock” quota) would be better off moving to safety… For us he could be a safety that can cover man to man…. But I need to see more, Amari Cooper abused him and left a bad taste in my mouth
Saw the same number problem in the ND-ASU game.
What’s Golson doing playing OLB, I wondered?
ASU v. Ducks for a spot in the College playoffs. Book that one.
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The 4-team college playoff hasn’t solved the inherent subjectivity of the selection process — anymore than the old-time voting system (AP & UPI) after the New Year’s Day games.
Nothing topped New Year’s Day pre-BCS — when 4 or 5 teams could end up as the (mythical) No. 1, depending what happens in other contests.
Greatest day of football watching, year in and year out.
Much better — and no less arbitrary — than the newest version of college-football Shangri La.
Why do they do this wearing the same number crap? I know their rosters are huge but they don’t have 300 players on the roster.
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You are right..4 team isn’t enough to eliminate the subjectivity of college football, but it’s a start in the right direction,,, take myself for example, I have a pretty decent grasp on college players, but I never really cared about college football. I don’t like any specific team, I don’t really root for anyone. I have always just decided which games to watch, by which matchup had the most NFL prospects(often on the defensive side of the ball).
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But I have a feeling that having this 4 game playoff will get me to to like College more, and watch more of it as a fan, instead of just looking at the college game to find potential future Eagles…
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Hopefully it’s a step in the right direction, and more reforms are coming in the future…a 16 Team Playoffs would be ideal…. But I can already see the 4 team playoff, get me more interested in the college teams, instead of just caring about prospects
GE:
You wrote:
“. . . but hey don’t have 300 players on the roster.”
Pearl #2. True statement of fact.
I guess the argument is that for home games, the non-traveling players need a number.
But that explanation is a sieve — because ND was on the road. Just like Oregon.
That is a good point tho…. I don’t get how I never noticed this before…
I heard the end of a report that certan eagles games have been chosen for the “flex scheduling”…anyone know which games are getting Flexed?
http://sports.morganwick.com/category/football/nfl/snf-flex-scheduling-watch/#sthash.1DovjqMN.dpbs
Re: Greatest MNF/SNF game involving the Eagles?
Since the Birds are playing tomorrow night, I was just musing — and inviting other folks’ best memories of the Eagles on MNF/SNF.
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For me, it’s an easy call — because of how long the Birds had been in the wilderness.
1979 – Week 11: Eagles at Dallas.
Birds shock the football world by winning 31-21 over Roger “Captain America” Staubach and the rest of Landry’s ‘Boys.
Vermeil goes for it on 4th-and-1 from the Dallas 32 in the 1st Q — and Jaws throws a play-action TD to Harold Carmichael.
Tony Franklin drills a 59 yard FG at the end of the 1st half — the
second-longest kick at that point in NFL history (behind Dempsey’s 63
yarder).
Then, after seeing their 24-7 lead 3rd Q lead cut to 24-21, the Eagles clinch the game on a 37 yard TD run by Wilbert Montgomery with just 1:01 to play.
That when Vermeil’s Eagles became legit SB contenders.
Here’s mine.
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/9-PM-Randalls-Special-A-Must-See/d81d3883-e6fa-4432-a67b-4bc13d2a71aa
Cunningham beats the Giants on MNF. His play bouncing off Carl Banks and then throwing a strike for a TD. Probably my favorite Randall moment.
Awesome choice . . .
A second “out of the wilderness” game.
Genius. Great choice.
Etched indelibly in everyone’s mind who saw the game is Cunningham’s incredible play against Carl Banks that led to his TD pass to Giles in the corner.
Thought Cunningham was the “anointed one” after that.
Super pick.
The Ultimate Weapon I think said the next issue of SI after that game.
Lol Desean is in studio on fox pregame show, putting his foot in his mouth lol he can’t even help himselff…simpleton… Idiots spilling locker room secrets, and happy to reveal to the world that he had to stand up and say Someghing lol… I do NOT miss anything, but his deep balls
GE wrote
” . . . simpleton.”
Beautific
It’s hysterical watching him try to sound smart, and end up putting his foot in his mouth… Everyone of his answers started with “that’s a great question” lol… I love the way he uses the word “myself” in the dumbest ways possible
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Kind of passive agressive shot at chip…compared Gruden to andy as “players coaches”…funny he doesn’t put chip in that category
As defense counsel Barney Greenwald said of his X-exam’n of Capt Queeg in The Caine Mutiny:
“It was like shooting fish in a barrel.”
Lol! You are mocking somebody for trying to sound smart? Your IQ is around ~95.
Desean has been gone for nearly a year and you are still butthurt about it. Get over it and stop posting you worthless piece of dog shit. And then kill yourself because you don’t deserve to live.
Somebody woke up grumpy.
For GEAGLE
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/E012822E721143067979525820416_364f8e0184b.0.1.3132517786345665129.mp4?versionId=k_YaBGlW3CXaybGZv98_1TwEENFWWbVM
Yes that is your boy Kendricks destroying a QB
A:
You follow college ‘ball pretty closely, w/ an eye on the draft.
You agree w/ GE that Kendricks the Younger is high quality LB prospect — the kind who, like his older brother, could step in immediately and start for an NFL team?
Yes. I think he is the best ILB in the upcoming draft. He is not as good of a prospect as CJ Mosley, but he should fall around the area of the Wagner, David, Kendricks combo did in 2012.
I also think he is better than Shazier was last year. Erik is a complete ILB in todays NFL. Can hit, tackle, very good instincts and can cover both man and zone.
Speaking of Shazier . . .
His vertical at the combine was bigger than any college basketball player eligible for last year’s NBA draft.
yea, he is a great athlete, but he cant get off blocks
and perhaps he spent too much time jumping and weakened his often injured legs.
A:
I read somewhere that once an O-lineman gets his hands on a LB — any LB — there’s no getting off the block, at least not at the POA.
D3FB would be a good source on this.
Seems like great M/ILB look good because they are (i) extremely smart about the opposing team’s scheme/play calls/tendencies, and (ii) so quick in their reads.
Good ILBs can shed an OL from time to time if the ILB is moving forward towards his gap.
Of course if the OL first gets his hands on you, you are done as a LB, but Shazier is done even before that
Thanks. Valid point.
Would seem to confirm why the NFL has so few quality ILBs
#BabyBEAST!!!
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Greenbay scares me… Worry about them stealing him
Great scouting!
Sick nickel package with the two Kemdrick boys flying around in coverage, and DE on our 4-2-5 DL like Barwin that can pass rush, and even drop into coverage… Can do a bunch of blitzes with a DE like Barwin, and two LB who can cover, boykin, and a safety that can play man like jenkins…
Interested in the Dolphins/Lions, two defenses that quietly are playing some quality ball… Pretenders or Contenders?..
Is DJordan getting any time?
Making any impact?
He has been suspended for I think 10 games this season
Just got back from suspension, They eased him in…nothing special in the stat column yet Didn’t go back and watch the dolphins game yet,..figured I’d wait a few weeks for him to really get going. Should play a lot today
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Think last game was his first game, quiet…
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He is a player you have to watch, can’t just go off the stats.. I remember his stats sucked in the patriots game last year, went back and watched the tape, and I was blown away at how I never seen anyone else defend Gronk like he did that day.. Tho I expect him to show up in the stat column this year….
I’m interested. But CBS wants to ruin my day with Steelers / Jets.
Lions are contenders once that offense is healthy again. Not sure why the Dolphins defense is suddenly great tho.
Cameron Wake probabky has a lot to do with it…but you are right, that defense was supposed to be a mess, with all the LB injuries…Brent grimes making a lot of plays too….curious to see if Tannaehill is legit or just on a hot streak…
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The friggin Browns are 6-3,.. NFL seasons are always crazy
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-11-06/dez-bryant-contract-receivers-2015-free-agency-extensions-demaryius-thomas-maclin-aj-green
interesting read
Great article.
If the WR market goes suddenly soft this off-season, you will hear SCREAMS of collusion.
The NFL can point to “data” . . . but the argument in the cited article is true of every position *except* QB.
WR cannot take over a game w/ out a great QB.
And someone HAS to get paid because of the salary floor — which is, in part, why Tampa threw so much money at VJax.
If these young guys — entering their prime — don’t get paid, the NFLPA will be all over this.
NFLPA dont care as long as the players get their 99% of the cap (which in its self is colluding).
Also the NFLPA should care less about the Dez Bryants or Jeremy Maclins and more about the Jeff Maehls anyway.
A:
The NFLPA — like the MLBPA — lives by the adage that “a rising tide lifts all boats.”
It’s a basic rule of free-market pricing. If one product goes up in price, the costs of substitutes — while initially a bargain — will likewise follow the trend as demand increases.
In addition, you have the injury factor (careers ending on one play) . . . so the NFLPA’s job should be to set the market for every position as high as possible. That is, encourage players to seek the highest number possible.
But NFL FA is a zero sum game. If the WRs or RBs gets less, the ILBs might get more.
All that means is teams are forced to cut mid-level veterans — to pay the stars.
Happens every year.
When NFL teams stop doing that across the league, you’ll have proof of collusion and intentional suppression of salaries.
That’s why the draft is so important for competitive teams with stars . . . keeps the team good and keeps costs down.
My take. That’s all.
yea 100%, the current level makes 4-5 year veterans that are only slightly better than replacement level more likely to get cut
agreed. Double or triple the minimum salary and put an individual player cap in.
Can you say…………………. holdout?
Nobody is gonna hold out. It just means Dez Bryant or D. Thomas might only get 12-14 mill and not 16+ mill.
When I see dudes jumping from one agent to another, I tend to get more worried about a holdout.
Why would Bryant holdout? If the Cowboys do not pay him, a team like the Browns or Raiders will pay him.
No reason to hold out when you a a UFA
Tag?
Not sure the Cowboys can afford it.
can vs. shouldn’t are interesting things when talking Dallas and contracts.
I know NFL is “all” about security, but I do not understand why its illegal hit on a defenseless WR when the defender is 2 feet above the ground.
I think “launching” by DBs became de rigeuer . . . classic ESPN Sportscenter moment.
Between launching and concussion lawsuits, the NFL had to move towards flag football.
Still, if the WR lower his head to near the ground, the defense cant hit him, only try to tackle him
Hate the rule.
So hard at high speed to comply
Also, despite all that, Bucannon wasnt fined for his hit on Maclin against the Cards
Funny to watch a team celebrate a failed defensive down.
Buffalo, with Orton, just scored on a 4-vertical from the KC 25 yard line.
Like Kelly said, every team runs it. And it works.
4 vert is run by everybody all the way down to pop warner
And it works
Buffalo’s a good-looking team.
Not a SB contender.
But on the right path. With a quality defense.
The worst for the Bills is that like us, they most likely need a new QB.
I do think they give EJ Manuel another off season and then pick one in 2016
A:
Great example of how the NFL is ALL ABOUT the QB!
Orton’s very careful at this point. Solid. Minimizes mistakes (in theory).
But that’s it.
To get to the next level, with that defense and Sammy Watkins, Buffalo needs a huge upgrade at QB.
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EJ Manuel . . .
He won’t cost anything extra to keep around. So I think you’re right: Another shot.
TD Jaguars!!!
Their so called defense is going downhill as they get closer to the Eagles game.
Jags 7-3 on dallas. i’ve never wanted something NFL-wise non-eagle related this much
17-0 . . . Jags v. Eagles.
Way early. It’s the Jags.
true, also ‘allas in November w/ hurt qb. you see td? mack truck lane and RB Rbinson had easy TD
Is Romo in? Out?
in. i missed his 1st drive. he looks ok, compared to erlier this year. dont think he’s been fully healed yet this yr.
In
Unfortunately the Jaguars’ D looks just as bad.
Bingo
Welp, Jags just muffed a punt at their 5 yard line. Dallas gets the ball. Game over as far as I’m concerned.
‘allas’ looks not any better. it’s a battle of crap ‘efenses.
If anybody saw the Megatron TD. That is in theory why Kelly wants bigger CBs.
he’d probably rather have a megatron more
description?
Brent Grimes tried to cover Johnson, Johnson just reached up for the TD
If Lions cut him loose after this season . . .
You’re Roseman/Kelly — do you go for him?
(Assuming Maclin’s resigned)
Not for the money he would get.
I rather sign a Fitzgerald or Vincent Jackson for much less.
Back in the ’90s, early FA era —
Players took a discount to join the Cowboys and 49ers to win a title.
If Birds find a way to win this year . . . that could happen
Both players wants to win and play in a good offense. Fitzgerald of course plays for a winning team right now, but Vincent Jackson might want to take less to play for Kelly
VJax . . .
You’re right — Good match
Also imagine Jackson in the RZ with Matthews, Ertz and Maclin (really good RZ WR because he runs great routes)
YES! Pay whatever to put up the best offensive numbers ever! Calvin is a good dude too, not a selfish guy…we would be more dominant then the T.O year…go thru he season as the dominant righteous Hammer or NFL Gods!! Just smash thru the season
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If it’s true that we tried to load up and trade for Vincent Jackson at the trade deadline, then I really like the aggressive thinking of chip Roseman,
Brent grimes got an INT against Calvin the next drive…but I hear you and agree that we should only have big outside bs..
Im of the idea that you match the CBs. Have guys like Williams on the big guys and Boykin on the smaller guys.
I hate when the color guy gives “all you young guys” a lesson on textbook football.
They are still the Jags. Ugh.
so annoying. just fair catch it.
Their defense had a nice stand, too.
Yeah, losers find a way to lose. The Jags suck. Think Bradley gets another year?
Bradley will get another year. The defense has improved since he their and I think he gets at least 1 more year with Bortles
He def should get another year. I think they are def heading in the right direction since he took over
Owner Shah Khan just gave Bradley (and GM Caldwell) a vote of confidence.
Could be the vote of death.
i think he should given how much of a mess that team was when he came in. I don’t know how much leeway he’ll get, but I’m thinking he gets at least 1 more year.
Would like to have seen Kelly work with a team with the talent deficit of JAX.
Eagles were 4-12 in ’12. But not a 4-12 talent team.
Offensively, no. There was plenty of talent there for more than 4 wins…but defensively? We’ve had a lack of talent on that side, though it is better now.
Not compared to JAX.
JAX has no QB
Well yes, but I think if you look up the word “mess” in the dictionary, you’ll see a reference to Jacksonville’s offense.
Excellent
I like Bortles. He doesn’t have a line and he’s a rook.
like BB too.
But last year, Bradley had no QB.
And he’s suffering this year with lots of Rook Mistakes.
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Kelly inherited an offense that started 10 Reid players.
And the 2013 defense started 6 Reid players.
Kind of feel bad for him and their fans. I think if I was a Jags fan, that I’d be happy that they’re moving in the right direction.
Um, J-E-T-S!! J-E-T-S!! J-E-T-S??
Jets fans, second only to Eagles fans in spelling.
Baltimore loses Pitta and they fall apart.
I saw the Cowboys appearently offered Dez 10 years 114mil with 20mil guaranteed if I was Dez I wouldve told the Boys to get that sh** out if my face and I’m sure he did just that
All that matters is the first 3-4 years cash take for Bryant — including guarantee structure, plus a player out.
The average number would just be for cap purposes for Dallas.
But the thing is average is low AND guaranteed is low he could get 6 years 80mil with like 30something guaranteed
for sure.
totally agree
With the cap increase I’m expecting something like 13-14.5mil per year and hell want over a third of it guaranteed
That’d be great for re-signing Maclin
13+mil per year for Maclin?! I don’t think so
No. I didn’t mean Maclin gets that.
I meant Maclin’s in the next tier down.
Oh …OK I think we should have Maclin resigned well before Dez gets his contract. I’m still thinking 5 years 50-55mil with around 20 guaranteed
this picks up a discussion from a couple days ago . . .
I should have been more clear.
I think you’re right on
Oh OK…I misinterpreted your comment
Just copy and paste Jason Peters’ contact and give it to him
Becuse they dont trusts im enough to give him guaranteed money…something about dallas security having to come break a baby out of his locked car where he was left alone..I didn’t catch the entire story, but the gist of it is he is still a moron and they don’t trust giving him guaranteed money
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Awesome WR, but I’d hesisite giving that fool gazzilion guaranteed dollars
CowboysUK
I hate waiting for Monday.
Former Eagle Jaiquann Jarrett with a sack, fumble recovery, and interception against Big Ben.
Always rooting for a Temple kid.
Over-drafted.
Forced to learn as a rookie in the Wide – 9 (aka – death for back-7 defense).
Needed patience.
Maybe good as a box safety in a RRyan scheme.
Is he good?
Hasnt really been good before this. Its just one of those once in a lifetime game by a fringe player
I wouldn’t call Jarrett a fringe player.. He needed time.
Starting his career in a defense run by Juan Castillo did him no favors.
What would you call Casey Matthews?
I would call him a poor fit for the defense he was forced to play in as a rookie that resulted in him being bashed by many Eagles fans… Until now.
Rex Ryan makes safeties look good. Jim Leonhard is a good example. Hell, I think Rex Ryan can make a lot of mediocre defenders look good.
Rex Ryan like his father/brother do know how to make a defense work.
Rob Ryan is the Casey Matthews of that family
BEST COMMENT OF THE DAY
Rob is also forced to eat at the kids table during Thanksgiving.
Buddy almost always had great players on defense, going back to the Jets era.
He’s playing really good today. Rex is using him in the box.
He’s instinctive and looks really comfortable in that defense.
I agree with you, his development was rushed as a rookie, considering the scheme he was in at the time as well. The Jets defensive line is eating up a lot of blocks too.
Oof…the Jacksonvile “defense” is…awful.
I was thinking the same thing. Turrible.
Yeah game’s over. Their offense can’t do anything, either.
Just browsing the web and found some disturbing things out about Jimmy Page that maybe I didn’t need to know. Damn Jacksonville sucks.
Any of you see A Football life: 1993 Oilers? Fascinating and I learned that Buddy was a head case to work with. I was 17 in 1993, so a lot of this stuff went over my head.
What’s your take on HC Jack Pardee?
Houston was his 3rd NFL team — leading all to the playoffs. A George Allen acolyte.
Brought the run-and-shoot to the NFL in Houston.
After watching that I think my opinion of him is not good. HC has to have control of the team, both players and coaches. To allow what was happening to continue for so long wasn’t good. And the benching of Moon reminded me of when McNabb was benched in Baltimore.
I remember when we went down there on MNF I think and ate that team up. Their receivers were scared to come across the middle. Maybe 91 or 92 season.
Buffalo’s defense is VERY good.
amazing how vick just cant read a defense announcers can see it coming but he doesnt
Penalties and turnovers on top of suck, nice.
Watching the Jaguars game I take it?
I guess that post could be mistaken for the Steelers game given their score, but yes, you are correct.
Edit: I also know you knew what I was talking about as not for me to sound like a smart ass is all. lol
Oooo could it be a turnover in favor of suck?
A discussion, “Well they are the Cowboys, so maybe we should just give them the ball.”
Better kick the FG before they turn it over again.
Oh wrong side of the field
There is no way I’m watching the second half
Welp, time to stop watching Cowboys-Jags!
Jags = the suck
Interesting fact browsing the web, if it’s true:
The very first NFL game to be broadcast on the small screen aired on
NBC’s fledgling television network on October 22nd, 1939, when only 500
about New Yorkers owned TVs. It featured the Philadelphia Eagles against
the Brooklyn Dodgers (yes, a football team, from 1930 to 1943) at
Ebbets Field, in a contest won by Brooklyn 23-14. The game was also
aired to a crowd of awed viewers at New York’s 1939 World’s Fair.
Bryce Brown fumbles out of the endzone at the 1yd line for the Bills
Andy Reid’s plan=Genius
It’s always surprising to me to see how many former Eagles are playing throughout the NFL.
Jaiquawn Jarrett…two INTs and a fumble recovery vs Pitt..
Vick can still run pretty well…and still can’t slide right.
Can still get hurt pretty easy too… Over and under another game n a half of good health
Hey Geagle, Dion Jordan just blocked a FG.
Check the special team box off! 😉
Versatility…check
big Mofo beats up lil people…check
length…check
Supreme Athleticism…check
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Chip kelly kind of guy
This was the only game I wanted to see today, so I’m following on nfl.com. I’m stuck w/Dallas/Jags and Ravens/Titans.
Like to see Dolphins give Lions a loss. They are competing with us for homefield
Partially why I wanted to watch. I wanted to see if both teams are for real. Miami is starting to look legit.
Friggin Brent grimes keeps making plays, even against Calvin
He didn’t block it. Earl Miller blocked it.
Then Dion Jordan picked it up and got caught from behind somehow.
Ahh thanks. The Gamecenter sometimes doesn’t give the correct info.
Downloaded the torrent, watching miami game now.. Some nice solo tackles, really nice moments in coverage..atleast 1 PBU… They aren’t as dumb as they sound, they actually do use him in coverage instead of only rushing
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Brent Grimes is a HECKUVA playmaker
http://i.imgur.com/ljXrmcK.jpg
Does this mean all the national sports guys are back on Dallas’s bandwagon?
You know it! And God forbid Mark Sanchez has a bad day and we lose, the Dallas crap will be out of control. Break a two game losing streak with a win over a 1-8 jags team, go dallas!!! Where as Chip and FOles, have NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER lost two games in a row since they been togetner…that’s not easy to do!!
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Romo looked healthier than expected..we have to assume he will be fine after the bye week
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Dez went to locker room? Huh?
Miami’s defensive coordinator lost that game for them. 3rd and 4 from the 11, and you only rush 3 guys. SMH.
Pittsburgh did the same thing on 3rd and goal from the 6 or so. And Vick had all day too find someone for the TD.
Richard Sherman is overrated.
I think I have to agree with you. I think Chargers kind of exposed this team a bit.
Yes like shady. Looks way better when the line is doing it’s job. There’s no pass rush this year so the dbs look average. Unfortunately I sat all my giants players today.
I didn’t realize how small they are on defense. It reminds me of how Andy Reid use to pick players on that side of the ball.
Yeah, but they’re fastballs.
Chippah must have a boner watching ODB making contested catches again and again.
Anyone else finding it difficult to pull for the Giants against the Seahawks, even though we know that’s better for the Eagles?
Doesn’t matter. AZ is going to wrap that division up. The wild card spot might be between Seattle and SF.
no I want the Giants. Giants aren’t going anywhere, this win won’t help them.
I don’t really believe in AZ, so would like to see Seattle drop another one.
Once I was walking a path in a dark woods, and I came upon a #3 QB. Said he, “Everything is the fault of the #2 QB.”
Across a stream and brush I came to a clearing where I saw another quarterback. I asked him if he was the #2. He said, “I don’t know, but I’ve been taught by my college coach to always take the blame.”
And return did I to the city where at the soda fountain everyone was blaming the #2 QB, convincingly. I asked someone who spoke with authority if the #3 QB was a liar and he said, “No, it was a Dream Team from which I have not awoken.”
The Giants drafting OBJ is my least favorite thing that happened in the 2014 draft. My favorite WR in the draft by far. And of course he goes to NY. Just a phenomenal player.
Are the rams going to quietly beat everyone in their division?
I hope so.
no.
Marshawn Lynch is amazing.
The Seahawks look to be the team that is imploding this season.
The following QBs have 2 or more picks today:
Big Ben
Drew Brees
Russel Wilson
Peyton Manning
Watta buncha bums…
when foles gets a ring he can have 2to games
how much do you think lynch costs next year?
Why we won’t sign him. Probably a short deal maybe 2 years 11.5mil
so he’d make as much as coop? man. talk about wasted resources
Lynch makes a living pummeling people, but when he makes it in the end zone he’s a complete gentleman. How are you? Nice to meet you here again, another six points, let’s go to the bench.
If he were playing in China would he bow instead of shake hands?
carson palmer out for the year — oddly enough right after signing that 3 year deal.
reportedly, his left knee — same one destroyed by Kimo Oelhoffen
if Palmer’s out for the year, Cards are finished for the year
even if Drew Stanton beats the Rams (who doesn’t) . . .
Cards are NOT the same w/out Palmer
Seriously? I saw he was injured but didn’t know how bad. Wow.
So.. 2 weeks ago I started Romo in fantasy, last week Foles, this week Palmer. 3/3 injuries. Who should I play next week, Romo again?
Tom Brady
I was wondering if the deal holds if he can’t play.
Lynch.
The days of the Babe Laufenberg backup are over. Teams need a back up qb that can step in at least for a few games. But I don’t know about a whole season. Even Barkley beats out the Babe.
Wow, on Lynch’s touchdown to go to 31, Zach Bowman made a “tackle” attempt that reminded me of Asante and DRC. He actually backed up a step into the end zone. I don’t miss that.
Also, as I watch Odell Beckham, I am trying to remind myself that I thought we were going to regret Hakim Nicks going to the Giants instead of the Eagles. Trying, but Beckham looks like the real deal.
Bowman must be learning from DRC.
I saw this too! Was surprised they didn’t call him out on the broadcast. Bowman was like….. “nah”.
And Beckham Jr. is gonna be a pain in our ass for a decade. We’re gonna pick a corner high next draft and talk about how we need a guy that can stick with ODJ.
The only way a corner can cover that guy is if they shove him down at the line. Beckham is incredible. So jelly the Giants got him.
Someone get Couglin his meds, he’s having a seizure or something over there.
That’s a weekly event. Nothing to worry about.
It’s the best when the temps drop, his whole head looks like a tomato. Unless it’s the playoffs, then it’s not funny, because that’s means you know…..
I haven’t caught the Palmer injury yet… How bad was it?
Looked like an ACL to me.
He is done, that was the same knee
Does anyone on Seattle act like they haven’t been there before when they score? Sheesh
Tomorrow both teams will be playing for 1st place as sad as that sounds, That division is winning suckiest division so far this year.
Suckiest? I invented a word, it’s pretty clear what it means
Crap it is a word.
giants and ram give games away. Sad. Nola lost, which is great, hopefully they can’t make the playoffs.
St. Louis would be an interesting target for Nick over the offseason if team decides to go in that direction.
Yep and theyll pick in the top 10 if you want Mariota you could includr Foles in a package
Don’t feed the idiot..he starts to think he is relevant LOL if only fools could realize they were fools hahahahahahahaha
Oh I doubt it will happen I’m just stated possibilities
LOL idiot what a joke
Nick is signed thru next year on a rookie 3rd round contract. Even if the Eagles go in a different direction, Nick will be on the team.
Ultimately I think he’s the guy next year but if they went a different direction they should get a pick before Foles leaves them
I think he has value. Look at some of the QB play around league. If he’s not our starter because of Sanchez or a greater plan (trade picks to get Mariota), then we need to get value for him before he exits via FA.
I swear we better not dump Foles for Sanchez if you aren’t going to go up and get Mariota then just forget it and stick with Foles
We could try and trade him. If we go with Sanchez, we then have Barkley and might sign a guy like Locker (good QB when healthy) and then potential draft one.
What a crappy non eagles football Sunday. Basically all playoff competitors in the NFC won today:
#cowboySuk
Niners
Seahawks
Cardinals
Lions
We better win tomorrow…
A very must win situation with Dallas off next week while we go to Green Bay. There’s actually a number one seed for us by the end of next week, but no, I’m not talking about it.
Edit Scratch that, Cards are 8-1. I thought they were 7-1, I’m still not talking about it. The team that would help us would actually pass us if it were the case anyways, so just drop the whole thing will ya?
need cardinals to start losing. seahawks also 6-3 which is sort of crazy considering it feels like they fell all the way off. however they have the thoughest schedule roy based on current wins
Yep, frickin Miami didn’t help us by losing to Detroit today. Arizona has some tough games within their division that are much harder now that their starting QB is out. We’d have to do something catastrophic to not stay near the top and getting a shot at 1 or 2 by the end of the year. Catastrophic would actually be not making it at all, but crap let’s get this bye.
We need to win for our own purposes of needing the confidence of knowing we will be fine with Sanchez. We need our guys to believe in him. They may believe now, but it’s important that he gets the win, so they can know for sure after the win..
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In terms of the rest of the NFC a loss isn’t that big of a deal. A lot left to be played, I just worry abpit what that loss would due to our confidence in Mark, aNd his confidence in himself at this junctire
Yes I am aware of that. Still sucked to see everyone I was rooting against winning today. Not sure if I should watch the SNG at all…
I’m trying to not get caught in the weekly trails and tribulations of the season for once and be a prisoner of the moment every sunday…TRYING!!!! It’s not easy!
At least we got to see the Giants lose.
Giants are not playoff contenders though.
‘Tis true, but the Eli face is worth the price of admission.
Did Mebane get injured for seattle? If so, that defense is screwed! So under rated, one of the most important pieces on that defense especially when they jettisoned Red BRyant..
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Palmer done!!! Believe it’s the same knee that was jacked up before!
Saints losing was good
Wouldn’t mind the crappy bears stealing a game from GB but I doubt that’s possible when Brandon Marshall FLys to NY every Tuesday to film inside the NFL, Lance Briggs openly defiant of the coaching staff cause he knows it’s his last year in chi-town, busy with the opening of his restaurant lol…need Lions and GB to beat on each other, be nice if bears can play spoiler role a game or two…
..Seattle doesnt scare me much anymore, but with Carson going down, it may give them a jolt of energy that they need during this Super Bowl “hang over”
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If the Eagles signed Antoine Bathea with Malcolm Jenkins, TODAY we would be a top defense.. I’m blown away by the year he is having, I thought old man was done, he has been on of the Niners best defenders this year
Don’t celebrate injuries you asshole.
I can’t wait til the day we do an Iggles blitz get togetner so I can punch you in your mouth and treat you like the pussy bitch that you are…
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With that said, where does your bitch ass see a celebration of injury? Fag groupie.
Heh.
My favorite part about you is how predictable you are. Typical simple-minded mouth breather. So great.
Hmmm you’re nothing but a poopyhead.
Lol! This is from the same homo who thinks he can beat up Johnny Football and Gennady Golovkin. You are a worthless faggot, your IQ is clearly below 100, and your life is going nowhere. Why don’t you just kill yourself and stop wasting valuable oxygen you punk ass bitch?
What’s with the hate on Geagle? He may rant a lot, but he’s got some actual football knowledge and understands the game. I rarely post but there’s no space for people like you on this board with posts like this. I don’t see you contributing anything useful other than trying to disparage someone for posting comments. You need to chill. And telling someone to kill them self is unwarranted. Go check yourself in the mirror and see what kind of man you are
Well….that wasn’t very nice
You dare say anythin I scatch out yo eyeballs!
I am sure Tommy is more patient than I, but I would delete this whole conversation and ban all three of you.
If I wanted to read name-calling, bigotry, and baseless threats I would just go directly to Philly dot com.
I think asking someone to refrain from celebrating injuries hardly falls in the “name-calling, bigotry and baseless threats” bucket.
So in spirit, I’m with you 100%.
In fairness I didn’t see him really celebrate and you responded by calling him a hole not that he respond any better
I guess it depends on how you interpret exclamation points.
“Palmer done!!! Believe it’s the same knee that was jacked up before!”
Well its a pretty big deal and it changes the whole landscape of the NFC so I’ll give him the benefit f the doubt and say he wasn’t celebrating the injury
You let your preconceived complex and dislike of GEAGLE write that comment.
I mean, sure. For good reason. But the excitement over an injured player was palpable.
I also can’t believe how long this little sub-thread got. I guess cause some trolls came out. Dude writes horrible, misogynistic and homophobic bile all the time, nobody seems to mind. Often under my comments.
Don’t get me wrong he shouldn’t have wrote that reply either but you probably read the comment wrong. W/e though, I’m done with it.
He didn’t celebrate injuries anywhere in his comment…..
I really wanted eagles to sign bethea this offseason…loved the way he played in indy. No one really scares me in the nfc, but GB is probably the team that scares me the most because of Rodgers….although I think the birds can control the game against them because their defense is no good, especially the run defense. This will be a fun 2nd half of the year. You’ve been saying this all along and I completely agree…I think the birds have the best o line/front 7 combination in the nfc (possibly the whole league) and that’s where games our won…in the trenches. And oh yeah, we have some of the best coaching too
I hear people saying they don’t fear Seattle. I wouldn’t do that. It’s only early November, Seattle is a bad place to play. I’d much, much rather go to AZ (if we have to travel). Now with Palmer done, Seattle has an easier path to that division.
Yeah that changes the calculus on everything. Detroit seems to be playing well too, and they have talent on both sides of the ball. Eagles just need to keep taking care of business and everything will work itself out. Beat Carolina tomorrow night and all is good in the world.
Well lucky for us, Seattle has to come to us after we have over 1 weeks rest.
Bears are getting destroyed
I hope they don’t save any points for next week, use them all up tonight.
I am absolutely disgusted in the Chicago Bears. They have no identity and are just laying down for the Packers.
Next week will be a huge test for us.
They look atrocious and they are looking atrocious after stealing my boy Kyle Fuller
Jay Cutler isn’t even worth 1/3 of the contract he received. He’s just awful.
There’s talent, there’s no heart to be found in that guy though.
He does project a laissez-faire attitude for sure.
There’s no heart at all. He always looks like he doesn’t care.
Is it me or do the Chicago Bears ALWAYS lose on Sunday night?
As of Week 6, Fuller had a broken hand and a “sore” hip, so he likely wasn’t helping a whole lot. Maybe next year. He has played a little since then, though.
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/roster/kyle-fuller/4102efb1-35d0-482d-a409-b75bebafa428/
OMG what am I watching
So the Bears would make a really good college team.
Well.if the Packers were a college team you’d see them drop 125 every day
Glad I didn’t say “I bet Green Bay can’t beat the Bears 55-10” before the game.
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