Saturday Night Stuff

Posted: November 8th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 325 Comments »

You look at the standings and see Carolina in 2nd place in the NFC South. Their record is 3-5-1. That’s not good, but isn’t the end of the world. But in the last 7 games, they are 1-5-1. Yikes.

Carolina started 2-0 and they’ve just fallen apart since then. How can a team with Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly play that badly?

GM Dave Gettleman made some questionable decisions in the offseason and they are biting him in the butt right now. The Panthers have issues on the OL, in the secondary and with receivers. Those were need areas in the offseason and they didn’t get addressed nearly enough.

One receiver they did add was Kelvin Benjamin. They used their 1st round pick on him and he’s been outstanding for Carolina. I wanted no part of Benjamin after studying his tape. Obviously the young man has cleaned up some issues with his game and playing in the NFL has brought out the best in him. That’s always the x-factor. Some kids come to the NFL and are overwhelmed. Some see that it is time to act like a man and they thrive. Kudos to Benjamin for playing well.

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With Mark Sanchez as the starter, Matt Barkley becomes the backup. Tim McManus wrote about him recently.

Barkley, though, believes he is in a much better place as a signal-caller than he was a year ago. For one, he is healthier. As questions about his arm strength swirled, the USC product suggested at the time that the separated shoulder he suffered his senior year wasn’t an issue. But it was.

“It was hurting, hurting quite a bit,” he said, “affecting my ability to come over the top so I had to adjust everything to the side and I wasn’t getting power on the ball, enough velocity as I should have.

“I was taught at a young age from my coaches to take the blame. As a quarterback the responsibility of the team is on your back and never blame anyone else, including an excuse or something that might hinder you.”

Barkley has regained his strength, he says, and is hitting personal highs in the weight room and from a conditioning standpoint. Mentally, he feels that he has a good grasp of the system.

“I’m comfortable enough to where I have no doubts to where the ball is going on plays or what my reads are,” he said. “Your senses are heightened a bit knowing that you are one snap away. I think my job is to support Mark and support this team by being mentally ready and physically prepared to go in a moment’s notice, which I think I am.

“As a man and as a football player you want to be challenged and you want to push yourself and your abilities and it’s kind of hard to do that when you’re third string not getting any reps. It’s not the spotlight you want to be in, it’s not records, you want to be challenged and you want to be pushed. It’s fun to be in that position again.”

I don’t know what to say about Barkley. I know he is dying to get on the field and show what he can do, but he’s not exactly lit it up when he has played. At the same time, we see him with backups in the offseason. When he played last year, the Eagles were losing and had to throw the ball. We have yet to see Barkley play in a favorable situation.

I think he can still succeed in the NFL, but Barkley has to accept who he is. His days of being a star in high school and college are over. The thing he needs to do now is play within himself. Too often he’s forcing things and trying to make plays. That is when mistakes happen.

Maybe we’ll get to see an Eagles blowout where Barkley can get on the field late and doesn’t have to worry about leading a comeback.

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Need your Appalachian State football highlight of the day?

Here ya go.

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One benefit to Mark Sanchez being a veteran is that starting a Monday night game won’t be a big deal to him. He has done that before and playing in the spotlight shouldn’t be an issue.

Chip Kelly is 2-0 in MNF games.

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325 Comments on “Saturday Night Stuff”

  1. 1 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:11 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    Glad you talked about Barkley. Been thinking about him as the backup once the full weight of the Foles injury hit home.

    It makes me extra nervous that we are one bad hit away from Matt as our QB. Maybe he proves my expectations completely wrong, but I hope he never sees the field this year.

  2. 2 EagleNebula said at 12:10 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    I wouldn’t mind him playing if it is week 17 and the starters are resting after securing their first round bye…

  3. 3 GEAGLE said at 11:19 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Chip doesnt rest starters… See the epic ass whooping of the Bears last year

  4. 4 wee2424 said at 1:30 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Amen to that.

  5. 5 GermanEagle said at 9:12 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    The thing he needs to do now is play with(in) himself.

    That’s some serious ‘Saturday night stuff’, my friend.

  6. 6 TommyLawlor said at 9:58 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    Are you the master of your domain?

  7. 7 Charlie Kelly said at 10:08 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    i have a certain level of confidence in barkley, i dont know why… or exactly how much… but its certain

  8. 8 Flyin said at 11:09 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    i am certain, i am not certain about anything you post.

  9. 9 Charlie Kelly said at 12:58 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    denim chicken?

  10. 10 ICDogg said at 7:37 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    worm hat

  11. 11 Flyin said at 9:08 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    corduroy cow.

  12. 12 Flyin said at 11:16 PM on November 8th, 2014:

    I was a fan of KB. He seemed to be loved or hated by Eagles fans before the draft. He is showing what he did in the championship game.

  13. 13 D3FB said at 2:27 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    He was 4-54-1 in the National Championship game. Yes he had the game winner, but he didn’t take over the game or anything along those lines.

  14. 14 Flyin said at 9:21 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    He is averaging just over 4 receptions and 65 yds a game this year. So what I said is pretty accurate. I like him because of his size and how he can elevate over defenders.

  15. 15 Media Mike said at 9:12 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    He is at the top of the dropped passes list this year.

  16. 16 wee2424 said at 2:01 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Should be a win for us monday. Only way i really see the Birds dropping this one is if Sanchez has a god awfull night, or Cam somehow managing to kill us with his legs, specifically on 3rd down. As far as Sanchez having a bad night i think the Eagles are really going to go into ground and pound mode with all 3 backs considering how bad Car is against the run, which will take alot off Sanchez’s shoulders. Bold prediction for the game is that Eagles D scores a TD on a pick 6. Jordan Mathews will also score another TD, and will have his best game yet in terms of yardage.

  17. 17 wee2424 said at 2:24 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Drank a monster to late at night, cant sleep. Anyone else think that its a good chance that Tobin is not only going to finish the season out, but that its very possible that he is going to be our starting RG next year? If he continues his development and keeps getting better as the season goes on i wouldnt be shocked at all if Herremans was cut and Tobin is our new RG.

  18. 18 D3FB said at 2:26 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Tobin has played well. He will likely be in competition with a price reduced Todd or a mid round rookie to start next year.

  19. 19 Media Mike said at 9:36 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Todd, if he doesn’t take a reduction, might not be here. His cap hit is too much for a guy in that stage of his career. Given his salary data for 2015

    http://eaglescap.com/Players/ToddHerremans.html

    he should be reducted to a $1.2 million dollar salary so he only counts $2.4 vs the cap no matter if he’s cut or not. That gets the Eagles $2.8 back vs. the cap for 2015.

  20. 20 mtn_green said at 2:25 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Didn’t djax do this once? Duck fumble return.
    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/gamecast?gameId=400548304&version=mobile&date=20141108&groupId=80#

  21. 21 Jamie Parker said at 2:47 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    He did it multiple times. He did it at Cal too. Some guys just don’t learn.

  22. 22 mtn_green said at 12:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Haha

  23. 23 Media Mike said at 9:12 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    “How can a team with Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly play that badly?”

    Because he sucks at quarterbacking? QB rating of 81 this year. 72 career TD passes, but has 68 career INTs and fumbles.

    He should be playing TE, WR, or end. Shame no coach had the brains to put the guy in the correct position.

  24. 24 GermanEagle said at 10:59 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Don’t tell this Anders. 😉

  25. 25 Media Mike said at 9:38 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    “GM Dave Gettleman made some questionable decisions in the offseason and they are biting him in the butt right now. The Panthers have issues on the OL, in the secondary and with receivers. Those were need areas in the offseason and they didn’t get addressed nearly enough.”

    You mean the superstar DC in Carolina can’t get any guys coached up to step into roles vacated by departing / suspended players? I’m absolutely shocked that a sucky bum like McDermott is utterly failing in his job. NUMBER 32 RANKED RED ZONE D AND WORST RED ZONE D IN 30 YEARS IN THE NFL WILL NEVER GO AWAY!

  26. 26 sutherneagle said at 9:38 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Kelly played against Barkley and drafted him.
    Kelly played against Sanchez and signed him.
    Kelly played against Foles, and chose to coach the team he was on.
    Kelly now has all three on his team.
    Kelly is a smart coach.

  27. 27 Media Mike said at 9:39 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Did Kelly coach against any ILBs or S that are better than Nate Allen and Casey Matthews?

  28. 28 sutherneagle said at 10:28 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    If I read the article correctly,the discussion was the qb situation.

  29. 29 Media Mike said at 10:34 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    I’m aware of that, I just wanted to badmouth continued positions / players of annoyance.

  30. 30 Anders said at 12:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He coached against a team who had Erik Kendricks. My single favorite ILB draft target.

    Not really any good safeties in the PAC-12 right now.

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 12:39 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Any upgrade, even at just one spot, is an upgrade!

  32. 32 Media Mike said at 9:58 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Could the NFL programmers at Fox and CBS suck any more at life if they tried?

    Stillers @ Jets and Cowboys “@” Jags – 1 PM
    Giants @ Seattle – 4 PM.

    Really? KC /. Buffalo , Miami / Detriot are both far superior games to the garbage Pittsburgh/NY tilt being shown on CBS at 1. Both fan bases in that game are complete and total scum worthy of nothing more than corrective fist-based dental work if the dare to root on their teams in my city/region. F them both.

    Dallas/Jacksonville on Fox over showing Saints/ Niners is a total joke. Who on earth wants to watch Dallas in the Philly area unless they’d also like to be a crime statistic.

    We’re stuck with Giants @ Seattle at 4 because it is Fox’s best “game” at that point. Poor scheduling.

    PHILADELPHIA IS NOT PITTSBURGH, NEW YORK, OR DALLAS!

    PUT THE BEST GAMES ON!

  33. 33 Bert's Bells said at 11:19 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Most people on these boards, I think, would prefer to watch an NFC East game than an out-of-division match.

    There’s a system for determining broadcasts, not a “superior game” whim.

  34. 34 Media Mike said at 12:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    It’s hardly a whim hoss. Just look at combined records and/or number of players on fantasy teams. The games I mentioned would be vastly more interesting.

  35. 35 Bert's Bells said at 12:09 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    That’s almost as stupid as the current system, I’m sure the NFL will switch over in the next couple of years.

  36. 36 Media Mike said at 12:16 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Seeing KC / Buffalo (combined 10-6, both in the playoff hunt) or Miami / Detroit (combined 11-5, both in the playoff hunt) as superior games to Pittsburgh / Jets (combined 7-11 record) isn’t stupid at all.

    And catering to scumbags from New York metro area and inbreds from non-Philadelphia areas of PA is far more stupid. New York and Pittsburgh fan bases literally have to be two of the worst collection of human beings alive.

  37. 37 ACViking said at 12:20 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    MM:

    Back in the ’70s and ’80s, even the early ’90s, when the NFC East was THE DOMINANT DIVISION, you always saw a quality game on Sunday when the Birds were on MNF.

    But now? The NFL is so diluted. And teams so uneven.

    I’ll take the odds of a quality match-up — on paper at least — any time.

    Because there are just so many BAD games every Sunday.

    So I’m w/ you. (Although I’m in the South — but the point’s the same.)

  38. 38 Media Mike said at 12:21 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Thank you! I wish the programmers at CBS and Fox would update themselves in the manner you described.

  39. 39 Bert's Bells said at 12:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    You’re talking primetime games, which they do try for “good games”, same with the national game-of-the-week.

    The fact is that broadcast markets are local, so even if you might think Steelers fans are “scumbags” (which is a pretty sociopathic statement) it’s well determined that there’s a strong geographic interest in watching their games.

  40. 40 ACViking said at 12:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    BB:

    I understand the premise used by Networks.

    Seemed like Dallas was on every Sunday — even the early game, if the Eagles were playing late or on MNF or on NBC (the old AFC channel).

    It’s a premise that I assume is statistically justified.

    The NFL TV-watching market’s changed so much in the past 10 years.

    But I do understand the theory. For sure.

  41. 41 Bert's Bells said at 12:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Right on.

    Once DirecTv’s contract is up (after next season, I think), it’s all moot anyway.

    Odds are that the NFL is going to drop them and partner with Google or Apple or some other provider that will circumvent satellite/cable subscription entirely.

    It’s going to be the next huge cash boom for the league. I wouldn’t be surprised if it leads to major changes vis-a-vis collective bargaining and even international play.

  42. 42 ACViking said at 12:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    BB:

    Sadly, Direct TV and the NFL extended the contract recently.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11624442/nfl-extends-sunday-ticket-deal-directv

  43. 43 Bert's Bells said at 1:12 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Damn. I missed that. I saw the stories about Google and Apple getting involved.

  44. 44 Media Mike said at 12:42 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    That geographic interest needs to be extinguished.

  45. 45 Bert's Bells said at 12:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    So you’re a Pittsburgh fan?

  46. 46 Media Mike said at 12:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Absolutely. I’m going to put on my Crosby jersey right on as soon as I’m done changing my feminine hygiene product.

  47. 47 GEAGLE said at 11:27 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    I want to watch the cowboys lose to the Jags…. Even if Cowboys aren’t a complete joke and can steal the win, it’s probably going to come at the expense of Romo…say what you will about the Jags, but they been hitting and roughing up QBs all year… The one thing that team can do is rough up your QB, and these fraudulent panzies don’t have the trust in their team to play a 1-8 team with their backüp QB…

    Can’t wait to watch a Jaguar crash into Romos back!

    Win or lose today, my gut says Dallas Wont like the price they have to pay today…. If they have any brains someone will sit Romo out of this game and let him rest thru the bye week.
    ..
    You have Demarco Murray, Dez and Witten, and you don’t have the confidence to beat the crappy Jags without Romo?
    ..
    Why have a backup QB if you have no trust in him? Might as well Not waste a roster spot, go with a WR at emergency QB, and if rOno gets hurt, then pick up a backup….why waste a roster spot if you don’t trust Weeden to lead a 6-3 team against the 1-8 Jags?
    ..
    The best run game, the best OL, most improved defense…my ass! Moron analyst actually believed in these clowns
    Cowpussies

  48. 48 Henly125 said at 10:58 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    It was a real treat watching Oregon last night. Marcus Mariota is an amazing quarterback.

    92 career touchdown passes to just 12 interceptions.

  49. 49 GEAGLE said at 11:16 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oregon gets on my nerves… They have a bunch of kids that all wear the same jersey numbers. It’s soo annoying. Why do they do that? How can other players besides Marriotta wear number 8? Feel like 5’players wear #9 Along with Arik Armstead.

    I put the game on to watch Arik and Star Ltululei little brother Lowell, but ended up watching Oregon DE Deforrest Buckner the entire time.Lowell Lotululie intruigs me, but we are set at NT.. He isn’t as agile athletic as Star, but he is stronger and biggest then star was when he got to Utah

    LSU Cb Jalen Collins had a rough night trying to match up with Amari Cooper, Tho I like that he plays mostly man in college.. Tho I wonder if the 6’2 195lb CB(that would fill out “dreadlock” quota) would be better off moving to safety… For us he could be a safety that can cover man to man…. But I need to see more, Amari Cooper abused him and left a bad taste in my mouth

  50. 50 ACViking said at 12:00 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Saw the same number problem in the ND-ASU game.
    What’s Golson doing playing OLB, I wondered?

    ASU v. Ducks for a spot in the College playoffs. Book that one.
    __________________

    The 4-team college playoff hasn’t solved the inherent subjectivity of the selection process — anymore than the old-time voting system (AP & UPI) after the New Year’s Day games.

    Nothing topped New Year’s Day pre-BCS — when 4 or 5 teams could end up as the (mythical) No. 1, depending what happens in other contests.

    Greatest day of football watching, year in and year out.

    Much better — and no less arbitrary — than the newest version of college-football Shangri La.

  51. 51 GEAGLE said at 12:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Why do they do this wearing the same number crap? I know their rosters are huge but they don’t have 300 players on the roster.

    You are right..4 team isn’t enough to eliminate the subjectivity of college football, but it’s a start in the right direction,,, take myself for example, I have a pretty decent grasp on college players, but I never really cared about college football. I don’t like any specific team, I don’t really root for anyone. I have always just decided which games to watch, by which matchup had the most NFL prospects(often on the defensive side of the ball).
    ..
    But I have a feeling that having this 4 game playoff will get me to to like College more, and watch more of it as a fan, instead of just looking at the college game to find potential future Eagles…
    ..
    Hopefully it’s a step in the right direction, and more reforms are coming in the future…a 16 Team Playoffs would be ideal…. But I can already see the 4 team playoff, get me more interested in the college teams, instead of just caring about prospects

  52. 52 ACViking said at 12:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    GE:

    You wrote:

    “. . . but hey don’t have 300 players on the roster.”

    Pearl #2. True statement of fact.

    I guess the argument is that for home games, the non-traveling players need a number.

    But that explanation is a sieve — because ND was on the road. Just like Oregon.

  53. 53 GEAGLE said at 12:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    That is a good point tho…. I don’t get how I never noticed this before…

  54. 54 GEAGLE said at 11:22 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    I heard the end of a report that certan eagles games have been chosen for the “flex scheduling”…anyone know which games are getting Flexed?

  55. 55 Bert's Bells said at 11:33 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    http://sports.morganwick.com/category/football/nfl/snf-flex-scheduling-watch/#sthash.1DovjqMN.dpbs

  56. 56 ACViking said at 11:49 AM on November 9th, 2014:

    Re: Greatest MNF/SNF game involving the Eagles?

    Since the Birds are playing tomorrow night, I was just musing — and inviting other folks’ best memories of the Eagles on MNF/SNF.

    _______________

    For me, it’s an easy call — because of how long the Birds had been in the wilderness.

    1979 – Week 11: Eagles at Dallas.

    Birds shock the football world by winning 31-21 over Roger “Captain America” Staubach and the rest of Landry’s ‘Boys.

    Vermeil goes for it on 4th-and-1 from the Dallas 32 in the 1st Q — and Jaws throws a play-action TD to Harold Carmichael.

    Tony Franklin drills a 59 yard FG at the end of the 1st half — the
    second-longest kick at that point in NFL history (behind Dempsey’s 63
    yarder).

    Then, after seeing their 24-7 lead 3rd Q lead cut to 24-21, the Eagles clinch the game on a 37 yard TD run by Wilbert Montgomery with just 1:01 to play.

    That when Vermeil’s Eagles became legit SB contenders.

  57. 57 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Here’s mine.

    https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/9-PM-Randalls-Special-A-Must-See/d81d3883-e6fa-4432-a67b-4bc13d2a71aa

    Cunningham beats the Giants on MNF. His play bouncing off Carl Banks and then throwing a strike for a TD. Probably my favorite Randall moment.

  58. 58 ACViking said at 12:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Awesome choice . . .

    A second “out of the wilderness” game.

    Genius. Great choice.

    Etched indelibly in everyone’s mind who saw the game is Cunningham’s incredible play against Carl Banks that led to his TD pass to Giles in the corner.

    Thought Cunningham was the “anointed one” after that.

    Super pick.

  59. 59 RobNE said at 4:56 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The Ultimate Weapon I think said the next issue of SI after that game.

  60. 60 GEAGLE said at 12:15 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lol Desean is in studio on fox pregame show, putting his foot in his mouth lol he can’t even help himselff…simpleton… Idiots spilling locker room secrets, and happy to reveal to the world that he had to stand up and say Someghing lol… I do NOT miss anything, but his deep balls

  61. 61 ACViking said at 12:17 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    GE wrote
    ” . . . simpleton.”

    Beautific

  62. 62 GEAGLE said at 12:25 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    It’s hysterical watching him try to sound smart, and end up putting his foot in his mouth… Everyone of his answers started with “that’s a great question” lol… I love the way he uses the word “myself” in the dumbest ways possible
    ..
    Kind of passive agressive shot at chip…compared Gruden to andy as “players coaches”…funny he doesn’t put chip in that category

  63. 63 ACViking said at 12:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    As defense counsel Barney Greenwald said of his X-exam’n of Capt Queeg in The Caine Mutiny:

    “It was like shooting fish in a barrel.”

  64. 64 BallFace said at 12:35 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lol! You are mocking somebody for trying to sound smart? Your IQ is around ~95.

    Desean has been gone for nearly a year and you are still butthurt about it. Get over it and stop posting you worthless piece of dog shit. And then kill yourself because you don’t deserve to live.

  65. 65 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:42 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Somebody woke up grumpy.

  66. 66 Anders said at 12:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    For GEAGLE

    https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/E012822E721143067979525820416_364f8e0184b.0.1.3132517786345665129.mp4?versionId=k_YaBGlW3CXaybGZv98_1TwEENFWWbVM

    Yes that is your boy Kendricks destroying a QB

  67. 67 ACViking said at 12:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A:

    You follow college ‘ball pretty closely, w/ an eye on the draft.

    You agree w/ GE that Kendricks the Younger is high quality LB prospect — the kind who, like his older brother, could step in immediately and start for an NFL team?

  68. 68 Anders said at 12:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yes. I think he is the best ILB in the upcoming draft. He is not as good of a prospect as CJ Mosley, but he should fall around the area of the Wagner, David, Kendricks combo did in 2012.

    I also think he is better than Shazier was last year. Erik is a complete ILB in todays NFL. Can hit, tackle, very good instincts and can cover both man and zone.

  69. 69 ACViking said at 12:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Speaking of Shazier . . .

    His vertical at the combine was bigger than any college basketball player eligible for last year’s NBA draft.

  70. 70 Anders said at 12:45 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    yea, he is a great athlete, but he cant get off blocks

  71. 71 Media Mike said at 12:45 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    and perhaps he spent too much time jumping and weakened his often injured legs.

  72. 72 ACViking said at 12:49 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A:

    I read somewhere that once an O-lineman gets his hands on a LB — any LB — there’s no getting off the block, at least not at the POA.

    D3FB would be a good source on this.

    Seems like great M/ILB look good because they are (i) extremely smart about the opposing team’s scheme/play calls/tendencies, and (ii) so quick in their reads.

  73. 73 Anders said at 12:55 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Good ILBs can shed an OL from time to time if the ILB is moving forward towards his gap.

    Of course if the OL first gets his hands on you, you are done as a LB, but Shazier is done even before that

  74. 74 ACViking said at 1:00 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Thanks. Valid point.

    Would seem to confirm why the NFL has so few quality ILBs

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 12:33 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    #BabyBEAST!!!
    ..
    Greenbay scares me… Worry about them stealing him

  76. 76 Media Mike said at 12:38 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Great scouting!

  77. 77 GEAGLE said at 12:40 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Sick nickel package with the two Kemdrick boys flying around in coverage, and DE on our 4-2-5 DL like Barwin that can pass rush, and even drop into coverage… Can do a bunch of blitzes with a DE like Barwin, and two LB who can cover, boykin, and a safety that can play man like jenkins…

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 12:50 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Interested in the Dolphins/Lions, two defenses that quietly are playing some quality ball… Pretenders or Contenders?..

  79. 79 ACViking said at 12:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Is DJordan getting any time?

    Making any impact?

  80. 80 Anders said at 12:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He has been suspended for I think 10 games this season

  81. 81 GEAGLE said at 12:56 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Just got back from suspension, They eased him in…nothing special in the stat column yet Didn’t go back and watch the dolphins game yet,..figured I’d wait a few weeks for him to really get going. Should play a lot today
    ..
    Think last game was his first game, quiet…

    He is a player you have to watch, can’t just go off the stats.. I remember his stats sucked in the patriots game last year, went back and watched the tape, and I was blown away at how I never seen anyone else defend Gronk like he did that day.. Tho I expect him to show up in the stat column this year….

  82. 82 Media Mike said at 12:53 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I’m interested. But CBS wants to ruin my day with Steelers / Jets.

  83. 83 Anders said at 12:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lions are contenders once that offense is healthy again. Not sure why the Dolphins defense is suddenly great tho.

  84. 84 GEAGLE said at 12:58 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Cameron Wake probabky has a lot to do with it…but you are right, that defense was supposed to be a mess, with all the LB injuries…Brent grimes making a lot of plays too….curious to see if Tannaehill is legit or just on a hot streak…

    The friggin Browns are 6-3,.. NFL seasons are always crazy

  85. 85 Anders said at 12:53 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-11-06/dez-bryant-contract-receivers-2015-free-agency-extensions-demaryius-thomas-maclin-aj-green

    interesting read

  86. 86 ACViking said at 12:57 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Great article.

    If the WR market goes suddenly soft this off-season, you will hear SCREAMS of collusion.

    The NFL can point to “data” . . . but the argument in the cited article is true of every position *except* QB.

    WR cannot take over a game w/ out a great QB.

    And someone HAS to get paid because of the salary floor — which is, in part, why Tampa threw so much money at VJax.

    If these young guys — entering their prime — don’t get paid, the NFLPA will be all over this.

  87. 87 Anders said at 1:00 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    NFLPA dont care as long as the players get their 99% of the cap (which in its self is colluding).

    Also the NFLPA should care less about the Dez Bryants or Jeremy Maclins and more about the Jeff Maehls anyway.

  88. 88 ACViking said at 1:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A:

    The NFLPA — like the MLBPA — lives by the adage that “a rising tide lifts all boats.”

    It’s a basic rule of free-market pricing. If one product goes up in price, the costs of substitutes — while initially a bargain — will likewise follow the trend as demand increases.

    In addition, you have the injury factor (careers ending on one play) . . . so the NFLPA’s job should be to set the market for every position as high as possible. That is, encourage players to seek the highest number possible.

  89. 89 Anders said at 1:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    But NFL FA is a zero sum game. If the WRs or RBs gets less, the ILBs might get more.

  90. 90 ACViking said at 1:15 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    All that means is teams are forced to cut mid-level veterans — to pay the stars.

    Happens every year.

    When NFL teams stop doing that across the league, you’ll have proof of collusion and intentional suppression of salaries.

    That’s why the draft is so important for competitive teams with stars . . . keeps the team good and keeps costs down.

    My take. That’s all.

  91. 91 Anders said at 1:17 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    yea 100%, the current level makes 4-5 year veterans that are only slightly better than replacement level more likely to get cut

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 1:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    agreed. Double or triple the minimum salary and put an individual player cap in.

  93. 93 Media Mike said at 1:01 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Can you say…………………. holdout?

  94. 94 Anders said at 1:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Nobody is gonna hold out. It just means Dez Bryant or D. Thomas might only get 12-14 mill and not 16+ mill.

  95. 95 Media Mike said at 1:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    When I see dudes jumping from one agent to another, I tend to get more worried about a holdout.

  96. 96 Anders said at 1:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Why would Bryant holdout? If the Cowboys do not pay him, a team like the Browns or Raiders will pay him.

    No reason to hold out when you a a UFA

  97. 97 Media Mike said at 1:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Tag?

  98. 98 Anders said at 1:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Not sure the Cowboys can afford it.

  99. 99 Media Mike said at 1:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    can vs. shouldn’t are interesting things when talking Dallas and contracts.

  100. 100 Anders said at 1:15 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I know NFL is “all” about security, but I do not understand why its illegal hit on a defenseless WR when the defender is 2 feet above the ground.

  101. 101 ACViking said at 1:17 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I think “launching” by DBs became de rigeuer . . . classic ESPN Sportscenter moment.

    Between launching and concussion lawsuits, the NFL had to move towards flag football.

  102. 102 Anders said at 1:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Still, if the WR lower his head to near the ground, the defense cant hit him, only try to tackle him

  103. 103 ACViking said at 1:20 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Hate the rule.

    So hard at high speed to comply

  104. 104 Anders said at 1:20 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Also, despite all that, Bucannon wasnt fined for his hit on Maclin against the Cards

  105. 105 BC1968 said at 1:16 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Funny to watch a team celebrate a failed defensive down.

  106. 106 ACViking said at 1:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Buffalo, with Orton, just scored on a 4-vertical from the KC 25 yard line.

    Like Kelly said, every team runs it. And it works.

  107. 107 Anders said at 1:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    4 vert is run by everybody all the way down to pop warner

  108. 108 ACViking said at 1:19 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    And it works

  109. 109 ACViking said at 1:21 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Buffalo’s a good-looking team.
    Not a SB contender.
    But on the right path. With a quality defense.

  110. 110 Anders said at 1:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The worst for the Bills is that like us, they most likely need a new QB.

    I do think they give EJ Manuel another off season and then pick one in 2016

  111. 111 ACViking said at 1:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A:

    Great example of how the NFL is ALL ABOUT the QB!

    Orton’s very careful at this point. Solid. Minimizes mistakes (in theory).

    But that’s it.

    To get to the next level, with that defense and Sammy Watkins, Buffalo needs a huge upgrade at QB.
    ______________

    EJ Manuel . . .

    He won’t cost anything extra to keep around. So I think you’re right: Another shot.

  112. 112 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    TD Jaguars!!!

  113. 113 BC1968 said at 1:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Their so called defense is going downhill as they get closer to the Eagles game.

  114. 114 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Jags 7-3 on dallas. i’ve never wanted something NFL-wise non-eagle related this much

  115. 115 ACViking said at 1:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    17-0 . . . Jags v. Eagles.

    Way early. It’s the Jags.

  116. 116 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    true, also ‘allas in November w/ hurt qb. you see td? mack truck lane and RB Rbinson had easy TD

  117. 117 ACViking said at 1:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Is Romo in? Out?

  118. 118 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:32 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    in. i missed his 1st drive. he looks ok, compared to erlier this year. dont think he’s been fully healed yet this yr.

  119. 119 Avery Greene said at 1:32 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    In

  120. 120 BlindChow said at 1:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Unfortunately the Jaguars’ D looks just as bad.

  121. 121 ACViking said at 1:32 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Bingo

  122. 122 BlindChow said at 1:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Welp, Jags just muffed a punt at their 5 yard line. Dallas gets the ball. Game over as far as I’m concerned.

  123. 123 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:33 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    ‘allas’ looks not any better. it’s a battle of crap ‘efenses.

  124. 124 Anders said at 1:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    If anybody saw the Megatron TD. That is in theory why Kelly wants bigger CBs.

  125. 125 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    he’d probably rather have a megatron more

  126. 126 ACViking said at 1:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    description?

  127. 127 Anders said at 1:32 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Brent Grimes tried to cover Johnson, Johnson just reached up for the TD

  128. 128 ACViking said at 1:33 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    If Lions cut him loose after this season . . .

    You’re Roseman/Kelly — do you go for him?

    (Assuming Maclin’s resigned)

  129. 129 Anders said at 1:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Not for the money he would get.

    I rather sign a Fitzgerald or Vincent Jackson for much less.

  130. 130 ACViking said at 1:35 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Back in the ’90s, early FA era —

    Players took a discount to join the Cowboys and 49ers to win a title.

    If Birds find a way to win this year . . . that could happen

  131. 131 Anders said at 1:37 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Both players wants to win and play in a good offense. Fitzgerald of course plays for a winning team right now, but Vincent Jackson might want to take less to play for Kelly

  132. 132 ACViking said at 1:38 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    VJax . . .

    You’re right — Good match

  133. 133 Anders said at 1:39 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Also imagine Jackson in the RZ with Matthews, Ertz and Maclin (really good RZ WR because he runs great routes)

  134. 134 GEAGLE said at 3:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    YES! Pay whatever to put up the best offensive numbers ever! Calvin is a good dude too, not a selfish guy…we would be more dominant then the T.O year…go thru he season as the dominant righteous Hammer or NFL Gods!! Just smash thru the season
    ..
    If it’s true that we tried to load up and trade for Vincent Jackson at the trade deadline, then I really like the aggressive thinking of chip Roseman,

  135. 135 GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Brent grimes got an INT against Calvin the next drive…but I hear you and agree that we should only have big outside bs..

  136. 136 Anders said at 3:13 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    Im of the idea that you match the CBs. Have guys like Williams on the big guys and Boykin on the smaller guys.

  137. 137 BC1968 said at 1:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I hate when the color guy gives “all you young guys” a lesson on textbook football.

  138. 138 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    They are still the Jags. Ugh.

  139. 139 cliff h...Wolff tracker said at 1:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    so annoying. just fair catch it.

  140. 140 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:35 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Their defense had a nice stand, too.

  141. 141 BlindChow said at 1:36 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yeah, losers find a way to lose. The Jags suck. Think Bradley gets another year?

  142. 142 Anders said at 1:38 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Bradley will get another year. The defense has improved since he their and I think he gets at least 1 more year with Bortles

  143. 143 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He def should get another year. I think they are def heading in the right direction since he took over

  144. 144 ACViking said at 1:39 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Owner Shah Khan just gave Bradley (and GM Caldwell) a vote of confidence.

    Could be the vote of death.

  145. 145 Corry said at 1:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    i think he should given how much of a mess that team was when he came in. I don’t know how much leeway he’ll get, but I’m thinking he gets at least 1 more year.

  146. 146 ACViking said at 1:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Would like to have seen Kelly work with a team with the talent deficit of JAX.
    Eagles were 4-12 in ’12. But not a 4-12 talent team.

  147. 147 Corry said at 1:56 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Offensively, no. There was plenty of talent there for more than 4 wins…but defensively? We’ve had a lack of talent on that side, though it is better now.

  148. 148 ACViking said at 1:58 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Not compared to JAX.

    JAX has no QB

  149. 149 Corry said at 2:01 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Well yes, but I think if you look up the word “mess” in the dictionary, you’ll see a reference to Jacksonville’s offense.

  150. 150 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Excellent

  151. 151 Avery Greene said at 2:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I like Bortles. He doesn’t have a line and he’s a rook.

  152. 152 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    like BB too.

    But last year, Bradley had no QB.

    And he’s suffering this year with lots of Rook Mistakes.
    _____________
    Kelly inherited an offense that started 10 Reid players.
    And the 2013 defense started 6 Reid players.

  153. 153 Avery Greene said at 2:08 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Kind of feel bad for him and their fans. I think if I was a Jags fan, that I’d be happy that they’re moving in the right direction.

  154. 154 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Um, J-E-T-S!! J-E-T-S!! J-E-T-S??

  155. 155 BC1968 said at 1:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Jets fans, second only to Eagles fans in spelling.

  156. 156 Avery Greene said at 1:48 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Baltimore loses Pitta and they fall apart.

  157. 157 oreofestar said at 1:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I saw the Cowboys appearently offered Dez 10 years 114mil with 20mil guaranteed if I was Dez I wouldve told the Boys to get that sh** out if my face and I’m sure he did just that

  158. 158 ACViking said at 1:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    All that matters is the first 3-4 years cash take for Bryant — including guarantee structure, plus a player out.

    The average number would just be for cap purposes for Dallas.

  159. 159 oreofestar said at 1:56 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    But the thing is average is low AND guaranteed is low he could get 6 years 80mil with like 30something guaranteed

  160. 160 ACViking said at 1:57 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    for sure.

    totally agree

  161. 161 oreofestar said at 1:58 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    With the cap increase I’m expecting something like 13-14.5mil per year and hell want over a third of it guaranteed

  162. 162 ACViking said at 1:59 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    That’d be great for re-signing Maclin

  163. 163 oreofestar said at 2:00 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    13+mil per year for Maclin?! I don’t think so

  164. 164 ACViking said at 2:04 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    No. I didn’t mean Maclin gets that.

    I meant Maclin’s in the next tier down.

  165. 165 oreofestar said at 2:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oh …OK I think we should have Maclin resigned well before Dez gets his contract. I’m still thinking 5 years 50-55mil with around 20 guaranteed

  166. 166 ACViking said at 2:09 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    this picks up a discussion from a couple days ago . . .

    I should have been more clear.

    I think you’re right on

  167. 167 oreofestar said at 2:15 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oh OK…I misinterpreted your comment

  168. 168 oreofestar said at 2:17 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Just copy and paste Jason Peters’ contact and give it to him

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 3:08 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Becuse they dont trusts im enough to give him guaranteed money…something about dallas security having to come break a baby out of his locked car where he was left alone..I didn’t catch the entire story, but the gist of it is he is still a moron and they don’t trust giving him guaranteed money
    ..
    Awesome WR, but I’d hesisite giving that fool gazzilion guaranteed dollars

  170. 170 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    CowboysUK

  171. 171 Corry said at 1:52 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I hate waiting for Monday.

  172. 172 Henly125 said at 2:01 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Former Eagle Jaiquann Jarrett with a sack, fumble recovery, and interception against Big Ben.

  173. 173 ACViking said at 2:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Always rooting for a Temple kid.

    Over-drafted.

    Forced to learn as a rookie in the Wide – 9 (aka – death for back-7 defense).

    Needed patience.

    Maybe good as a box safety in a RRyan scheme.

    Is he good?

  174. 174 Anders said at 2:04 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Hasnt really been good before this. Its just one of those once in a lifetime game by a fringe player

  175. 175 Henly125 said at 2:22 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I wouldn’t call Jarrett a fringe player.. He needed time.

    Starting his career in a defense run by Juan Castillo did him no favors.

  176. 176 Anders said at 3:13 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    What would you call Casey Matthews?

  177. 177 Henly125 said at 10:48 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    I would call him a poor fit for the defense he was forced to play in as a rookie that resulted in him being bashed by many Eagles fans… Until now.

  178. 178 Corry said at 2:05 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Rex Ryan makes safeties look good. Jim Leonhard is a good example. Hell, I think Rex Ryan can make a lot of mediocre defenders look good.

  179. 179 Avery Greene said at 2:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Rex Ryan like his father/brother do know how to make a defense work.

  180. 180 Anders said at 2:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Rob Ryan is the Casey Matthews of that family

  181. 181 ACViking said at 2:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    BEST COMMENT OF THE DAY

  182. 182 Corry said at 2:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Rob is also forced to eat at the kids table during Thanksgiving.

  183. 183 Bert's Bells said at 2:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Buddy almost always had great players on defense, going back to the Jets era.

  184. 184 Henly125 said at 2:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He’s playing really good today. Rex is using him in the box.

    He’s instinctive and looks really comfortable in that defense.

    I agree with you, his development was rushed as a rookie, considering the scheme he was in at the time as well. The Jets defensive line is eating up a lot of blocks too.

  185. 185 Corry said at 2:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oof…the Jacksonvile “defense” is…awful.

  186. 186 Avery Greene said at 2:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I was thinking the same thing. Turrible.

  187. 187 BlindChow said at 2:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yeah game’s over. Their offense can’t do anything, either.

  188. 188 BC1968 said at 2:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Just browsing the web and found some disturbing things out about Jimmy Page that maybe I didn’t need to know. Damn Jacksonville sucks.

  189. 189 Avery Greene said at 2:12 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Any of you see A Football life: 1993 Oilers? Fascinating and I learned that Buddy was a head case to work with. I was 17 in 1993, so a lot of this stuff went over my head.

  190. 190 ACViking said at 2:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    What’s your take on HC Jack Pardee?

    Houston was his 3rd NFL team — leading all to the playoffs. A George Allen acolyte.

    Brought the run-and-shoot to the NFL in Houston.

  191. 191 Avery Greene said at 2:16 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    After watching that I think my opinion of him is not good. HC has to have control of the team, both players and coaches. To allow what was happening to continue for so long wasn’t good. And the benching of Moon reminded me of when McNabb was benched in Baltimore.

    I remember when we went down there on MNF I think and ate that team up. Their receivers were scared to come across the middle. Maybe 91 or 92 season.

  192. 192 ACViking said at 2:12 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Buffalo’s defense is VERY good.

  193. 193 jpate said at 2:14 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    amazing how vick just cant read a defense announcers can see it coming but he doesnt

  194. 194 BC1968 said at 2:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Penalties and turnovers on top of suck, nice.

  195. 195 BlindChow said at 2:20 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Watching the Jaguars game I take it?

  196. 196 BC1968 said at 2:21 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I guess that post could be mistaken for the Steelers game given their score, but yes, you are correct.
    Edit: I also know you knew what I was talking about as not for me to sound like a smart ass is all. lol

  197. 197 BC1968 said at 2:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oooo could it be a turnover in favor of suck?

  198. 198 BC1968 said at 2:25 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A discussion, “Well they are the Cowboys, so maybe we should just give them the ball.”

  199. 199 BC1968 said at 2:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Better kick the FG before they turn it over again.

  200. 200 BC1968 said at 2:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oh wrong side of the field

  201. 201 Chip Kelly's bastard son said at 2:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    There is no way I’m watching the second half

  202. 202 BlindChow said at 2:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Welp, time to stop watching Cowboys-Jags!

  203. 203 scratcherk said at 2:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Jags = the suck

  204. 204 BC1968 said at 2:43 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Interesting fact browsing the web, if it’s true:

    The very first NFL game to be broadcast on the small screen aired on
    NBC’s fledgling television network on October 22nd, 1939, when only 500
    about New Yorkers owned TVs. It featured the Philadelphia Eagles against
    the Brooklyn Dodgers (yes, a football team, from 1930 to 1943) at
    Ebbets Field, in a contest won by Brooklyn 23-14. The game was also
    aired to a crowd of awed viewers at New York’s 1939 World’s Fair.

  205. 205 Crus57 said at 2:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Bryce Brown fumbles out of the endzone at the 1yd line for the Bills

  206. 206 BC1968 said at 2:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Andy Reid’s plan=Genius

  207. 207 Corry said at 2:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    It’s always surprising to me to see how many former Eagles are playing throughout the NFL.

  208. 208 A Roy said at 7:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Jaiquawn Jarrett…two INTs and a fumble recovery vs Pitt..

  209. 209 Corry said at 2:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Vick can still run pretty well…and still can’t slide right.

  210. 210 GEAGLE said at 3:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Can still get hurt pretty easy too… Over and under another game n a half of good health

  211. 211 Avery Greene said at 3:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Hey Geagle, Dion Jordan just blocked a FG.

  212. 212 GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Check the special team box off! 😉
    Versatility…check
    big Mofo beats up lil people…check
    length…check
    Supreme Athleticism…check
    .l
    Chip kelly kind of guy

  213. 213 Avery Greene said at 3:11 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    This was the only game I wanted to see today, so I’m following on nfl.com. I’m stuck w/Dallas/Jags and Ravens/Titans.

  214. 214 GEAGLE said at 3:12 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Like to see Dolphins give Lions a loss. They are competing with us for homefield

  215. 215 Avery Greene said at 3:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Partially why I wanted to watch. I wanted to see if both teams are for real. Miami is starting to look legit.

  216. 216 GEAGLE said at 3:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Friggin Brent grimes keeps making plays, even against Calvin

  217. 217 mksp said at 3:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He didn’t block it. Earl Miller blocked it.

    Then Dion Jordan picked it up and got caught from behind somehow.

  218. 218 Avery Greene said at 3:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Ahh thanks. The Gamecenter sometimes doesn’t give the correct info.

  219. 219 GEAGLE said at 8:04 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Downloaded the torrent, watching miami game now.. Some nice solo tackles, really nice moments in coverage..atleast 1 PBU… They aren’t as dumb as they sound, they actually do use him in coverage instead of only rushing
    ..
    Brent Grimes is a HECKUVA playmaker

  220. 220 Sean Stott said at 3:08 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    http://i.imgur.com/ljXrmcK.jpg

  221. 221 Avery Greene said at 3:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Does this mean all the national sports guys are back on Dallas’s bandwagon?

  222. 222 GEAGLE said at 3:37 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    You know it! And God forbid Mark Sanchez has a bad day and we lose, the Dallas crap will be out of control. Break a two game losing streak with a win over a 1-8 jags team, go dallas!!! Where as Chip and FOles, have NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER lost two games in a row since they been togetner…that’s not easy to do!!
    ..
    Romo looked healthier than expected..we have to assume he will be fine after the bye week
    ..
    Dez went to locker room? Huh?

  223. 223 Avery Greene said at 4:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Miami’s defensive coordinator lost that game for them. 3rd and 4 from the 11, and you only rush 3 guys. SMH.

  224. 224 A Roy said at 7:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Pittsburgh did the same thing on 3rd and goal from the 6 or so. And Vick had all day too find someone for the TD.

  225. 225 GermanEagle said at 5:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Richard Sherman is overrated.

  226. 226 Avery Greene said at 5:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I think I have to agree with you. I think Chargers kind of exposed this team a bit.

  227. 227 anon said at 5:40 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yes like shady. Looks way better when the line is doing it’s job. There’s no pass rush this year so the dbs look average. Unfortunately I sat all my giants players today.

  228. 228 Avery Greene said at 5:42 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I didn’t realize how small they are on defense. It reminds me of how Andy Reid use to pick players on that side of the ball.

  229. 229 A Roy said at 7:09 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yeah, but they’re fastballs.

  230. 230 GermanEagle said at 5:05 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Chippah must have a boner watching ODB making contested catches again and again.

  231. 231 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:18 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Anyone else finding it difficult to pull for the Giants against the Seahawks, even though we know that’s better for the Eagles?

  232. 232 Avery Greene said at 5:21 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Doesn’t matter. AZ is going to wrap that division up. The wild card spot might be between Seattle and SF.

  233. 233 RobNE said at 5:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    no I want the Giants. Giants aren’t going anywhere, this win won’t help them.

    I don’t really believe in AZ, so would like to see Seattle drop another one.

  234. 234 ian_no_2 said at 5:20 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Once I was walking a path in a dark woods, and I came upon a #3 QB. Said he, “Everything is the fault of the #2 QB.”

    Across a stream and brush I came to a clearing where I saw another quarterback. I asked him if he was the #2. He said, “I don’t know, but I’ve been taught by my college coach to always take the blame.”

    And return did I to the city where at the soda fountain everyone was blaming the #2 QB, convincingly. I asked someone who spoke with authority if the #3 QB was a liar and he said, “No, it was a Dream Team from which I have not awoken.”

  235. 235 mksp said at 5:35 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The Giants drafting OBJ is my least favorite thing that happened in the 2014 draft. My favorite WR in the draft by far. And of course he goes to NY. Just a phenomenal player.

  236. 236 anon said at 5:40 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Are the rams going to quietly beat everyone in their division?

  237. 237 Avery Greene said at 5:47 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I hope so.

  238. 238 ACViking said at 6:40 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    no.

  239. 239 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Marshawn Lynch is amazing.

  240. 240 GermanEagle said at 6:13 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The Seahawks look to be the team that is imploding this season.

  241. 241 GermanEagle said at 6:22 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The following QBs have 2 or more picks today:
    Big Ben
    Drew Brees
    Russel Wilson
    Peyton Manning

  242. 242 A Roy said at 7:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Watta buncha bums…

  243. 243 anon said at 7:14 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    when foles gets a ring he can have 2to games

  244. 244 anon said at 6:43 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    how much do you think lynch costs next year?

  245. 245 oreofestar said at 7:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Why we won’t sign him. Probably a short deal maybe 2 years 11.5mil

  246. 246 anon said at 7:43 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    so he’d make as much as coop? man. talk about wasted resources

  247. 247 BC1968 said at 6:43 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lynch makes a living pummeling people, but when he makes it in the end zone he’s a complete gentleman. How are you? Nice to meet you here again, another six points, let’s go to the bench.
    If he were playing in China would he bow instead of shake hands?

  248. 248 anon said at 6:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    carson palmer out for the year — oddly enough right after signing that 3 year deal.

  249. 249 ACViking said at 6:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    reportedly, his left knee — same one destroyed by Kimo Oelhoffen

  250. 250 ACViking said at 6:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    if Palmer’s out for the year, Cards are finished for the year

  251. 251 ACViking said at 6:53 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    even if Drew Stanton beats the Rams (who doesn’t) . . .

    Cards are NOT the same w/out Palmer

  252. 252 Crus57 said at 7:25 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Seriously? I saw he was injured but didn’t know how bad. Wow.

    So.. 2 weeks ago I started Romo in fantasy, last week Foles, this week Palmer. 3/3 injuries. Who should I play next week, Romo again?

  253. 253 RobNE said at 9:01 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Tom Brady

  254. 254 P_P_K said at 8:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I was wondering if the deal holds if he can’t play.

  255. 255 Henly125 said at 7:02 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lynch.

  256. 256 BC1968 said at 7:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The days of the Babe Laufenberg backup are over. Teams need a back up qb that can step in at least for a few games. But I don’t know about a whole season. Even Barkley beats out the Babe.

  257. 257 A_T_G said at 7:04 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Wow, on Lynch’s touchdown to go to 31, Zach Bowman made a “tackle” attempt that reminded me of Asante and DRC. He actually backed up a step into the end zone. I don’t miss that.

    Also, as I watch Odell Beckham, I am trying to remind myself that I thought we were going to regret Hakim Nicks going to the Giants instead of the Eagles. Trying, but Beckham looks like the real deal.

  258. 258 Corry said at 7:36 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Bowman must be learning from DRC.

  259. 259 mksp said at 7:38 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I saw this too! Was surprised they didn’t call him out on the broadcast. Bowman was like….. “nah”.

    And Beckham Jr. is gonna be a pain in our ass for a decade. We’re gonna pick a corner high next draft and talk about how we need a guy that can stick with ODJ.

  260. 260 Mitchell said at 8:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    The only way a corner can cover that guy is if they shove him down at the line. Beckham is incredible. So jelly the Giants got him.

  261. 261 BC1968 said at 7:04 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Someone get Couglin his meds, he’s having a seizure or something over there.

  262. 262 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    That’s a weekly event. Nothing to worry about.

  263. 263 BC1968 said at 7:09 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    It’s the best when the temps drop, his whole head looks like a tomato. Unless it’s the playoffs, then it’s not funny, because that’s means you know…..

  264. 264 Henly125 said at 7:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I haven’t caught the Palmer injury yet… How bad was it?

  265. 265 GermanEagle said at 7:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Looked like an ACL to me.

  266. 266 GEAGLE said at 7:57 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He is done, that was the same knee

  267. 267 BC1968 said at 7:07 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Does anyone on Seattle act like they haven’t been there before when they score? Sheesh

  268. 268 BC1968 said at 7:15 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Tomorrow both teams will be playing for 1st place as sad as that sounds, That division is winning suckiest division so far this year.
    Suckiest? I invented a word, it’s pretty clear what it means
    Crap it is a word.

  269. 269 anon said at 7:22 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    giants and ram give games away. Sad. Nola lost, which is great, hopefully they can’t make the playoffs.

  270. 270 mksp said at 7:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    St. Louis would be an interesting target for Nick over the offseason if team decides to go in that direction.

  271. 271 oreofestar said at 7:29 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yep and theyll pick in the top 10 if you want Mariota you could includr Foles in a package

  272. 272 GEAGLE said at 8:01 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Don’t feed the idiot..he starts to think he is relevant LOL if only fools could realize they were fools hahahahahahahaha

  273. 273 oreofestar said at 8:45 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Oh I doubt it will happen I’m just stated possibilities

  274. 274 GEAGLE said at 7:57 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    LOL idiot what a joke

  275. 275 RobNE said at 8:59 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Nick is signed thru next year on a rookie 3rd round contract. Even if the Eagles go in a different direction, Nick will be on the team.

  276. 276 oreofestar said at 9:10 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Ultimately I think he’s the guy next year but if they went a different direction they should get a pick before Foles leaves them

  277. 277 mksp said at 9:28 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I think he has value. Look at some of the QB play around league. If he’s not our starter because of Sanchez or a greater plan (trade picks to get Mariota), then we need to get value for him before he exits via FA.

  278. 278 oreofestar said at 9:30 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I swear we better not dump Foles for Sanchez if you aren’t going to go up and get Mariota then just forget it and stick with Foles

  279. 279 Anders said at 2:51 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    We could try and trade him. If we go with Sanchez, we then have Barkley and might sign a guy like Locker (good QB when healthy) and then potential draft one.

  280. 280 GermanEagle said at 7:39 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    What a crappy non eagles football Sunday. Basically all playoff competitors in the NFC won today:
    #cowboySuk
    Niners
    Seahawks
    Cardinals
    Lions

    We better win tomorrow…

  281. 281 BC1968 said at 7:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    A very must win situation with Dallas off next week while we go to Green Bay. There’s actually a number one seed for us by the end of next week, but no, I’m not talking about it.
    Edit Scratch that, Cards are 8-1. I thought they were 7-1, I’m still not talking about it. The team that would help us would actually pass us if it were the case anyways, so just drop the whole thing will ya?

  282. 282 anon said at 7:50 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    need cardinals to start losing. seahawks also 6-3 which is sort of crazy considering it feels like they fell all the way off. however they have the thoughest schedule roy based on current wins

  283. 283 BC1968 said at 7:53 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yep, frickin Miami didn’t help us by losing to Detroit today. Arizona has some tough games within their division that are much harder now that their starting QB is out. We’d have to do something catastrophic to not stay near the top and getting a shot at 1 or 2 by the end of the year. Catastrophic would actually be not making it at all, but crap let’s get this bye.

  284. 284 GEAGLE said at 7:53 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    We need to win for our own purposes of needing the confidence of knowing we will be fine with Sanchez. We need our guys to believe in him. They may believe now, but it’s important that he gets the win, so they can know for sure after the win..
    ..
    In terms of the rest of the NFC a loss isn’t that big of a deal. A lot left to be played, I just worry abpit what that loss would due to our confidence in Mark, aNd his confidence in himself at this junctire

  285. 285 GermanEagle said at 7:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yes I am aware of that. Still sucked to see everyone I was rooting against winning today. Not sure if I should watch the SNG at all…

  286. 286 GEAGLE said at 7:56 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I’m trying to not get caught in the weekly trails and tribulations of the season for once and be a prisoner of the moment every sunday…TRYING!!!! It’s not easy!

  287. 287 P_P_K said at 8:22 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    At least we got to see the Giants lose.

  288. 288 GermanEagle said at 5:48 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    Giants are not playoff contenders though.

  289. 289 P_P_K said at 9:40 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    ‘Tis true, but the Eli face is worth the price of admission.

  290. 290 GEAGLE said at 7:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Did Mebane get injured for seattle? If so, that defense is screwed! So under rated, one of the most important pieces on that defense especially when they jettisoned Red BRyant..
    ..
    Palmer done!!! Believe it’s the same knee that was jacked up before!
    Saints losing was good
    Wouldn’t mind the crappy bears stealing a game from GB but I doubt that’s possible when Brandon Marshall FLys to NY every Tuesday to film inside the NFL, Lance Briggs openly defiant of the coaching staff cause he knows it’s his last year in chi-town, busy with the opening of his restaurant lol…need Lions and GB to beat on each other, be nice if bears can play spoiler role a game or two…
    ..Seattle doesnt scare me much anymore, but with Carson going down, it may give them a jolt of energy that they need during this Super Bowl “hang over”
    ….
    If the Eagles signed Antoine Bathea with Malcolm Jenkins, TODAY we would be a top defense.. I’m blown away by the year he is having, I thought old man was done, he has been on of the Niners best defenders this year

  291. 291 mksp said at 7:51 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Don’t celebrate injuries you asshole.

  292. 292 GEAGLE said at 7:55 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I can’t wait til the day we do an Iggles blitz get togetner so I can punch you in your mouth and treat you like the pussy bitch that you are…
    ..
    With that said, where does your bitch ass see a celebration of injury? Fag groupie.

  293. 293 mksp said at 8:00 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Heh.

    My favorite part about you is how predictable you are. Typical simple-minded mouth breather. So great.

  294. 294 GEAGIRL said at 9:23 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Hmmm you’re nothing but a poopyhead.

  295. 295 BallFace said at 8:16 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Lol! This is from the same homo who thinks he can beat up Johnny Football and Gennady Golovkin. You are a worthless faggot, your IQ is clearly below 100, and your life is going nowhere. Why don’t you just kill yourself and stop wasting valuable oxygen you punk ass bitch?

  296. 296 Bleedgreen said at 8:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    What’s with the hate on Geagle? He may rant a lot, but he’s got some actual football knowledge and understands the game. I rarely post but there’s no space for people like you on this board with posts like this. I don’t see you contributing anything useful other than trying to disparage someone for posting comments. You need to chill. And telling someone to kill them self is unwarranted. Go check yourself in the mirror and see what kind of man you are

  297. 297 oreofestar said at 9:24 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Well….that wasn’t very nice

  298. 298 GEAGIRL said at 9:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    You dare say anythin I scatch out yo eyeballs!

  299. 299 A_T_G said at 9:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I am sure Tommy is more patient than I, but I would delete this whole conversation and ban all three of you.

    If I wanted to read name-calling, bigotry, and baseless threats I would just go directly to Philly dot com.

  300. 300 mksp said at 9:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I think asking someone to refrain from celebrating injuries hardly falls in the “name-calling, bigotry and baseless threats” bucket.

    So in spirit, I’m with you 100%.

  301. 301 oreofestar said at 9:43 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    In fairness I didn’t see him really celebrate and you responded by calling him a hole not that he respond any better

  302. 302 mksp said at 9:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I guess it depends on how you interpret exclamation points.

    “Palmer done!!! Believe it’s the same knee that was jacked up before!”

  303. 303 oreofestar said at 9:45 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Well its a pretty big deal and it changes the whole landscape of the NFC so I’ll give him the benefit f the doubt and say he wasn’t celebrating the injury

  304. 304 Mitchell said at 9:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    You let your preconceived complex and dislike of GEAGLE write that comment.

  305. 305 mksp said at 9:54 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I mean, sure. For good reason. But the excitement over an injured player was palpable.

    I also can’t believe how long this little sub-thread got. I guess cause some trolls came out. Dude writes horrible, misogynistic and homophobic bile all the time, nobody seems to mind. Often under my comments.

  306. 306 Mitchell said at 9:57 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Don’t get me wrong he shouldn’t have wrote that reply either but you probably read the comment wrong. W/e though, I’m done with it.

  307. 307 Mitchell said at 9:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He didn’t celebrate injuries anywhere in his comment…..

  308. 308 Bleedgreen said at 8:31 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I really wanted eagles to sign bethea this offseason…loved the way he played in indy. No one really scares me in the nfc, but GB is probably the team that scares me the most because of Rodgers….although I think the birds can control the game against them because their defense is no good, especially the run defense. This will be a fun 2nd half of the year. You’ve been saying this all along and I completely agree…I think the birds have the best o line/front 7 combination in the nfc (possibly the whole league) and that’s where games our won…in the trenches. And oh yeah, we have some of the best coaching too

  309. 309 RobNE said at 9:03 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I hear people saying they don’t fear Seattle. I wouldn’t do that. It’s only early November, Seattle is a bad place to play. I’d much, much rather go to AZ (if we have to travel). Now with Palmer done, Seattle has an easier path to that division.

  310. 310 Avery Greene said at 9:06 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Yeah that changes the calculus on everything. Detroit seems to be playing well too, and they have talent on both sides of the ball. Eagles just need to keep taking care of business and everything will work itself out. Beat Carolina tomorrow night and all is good in the world.

  311. 311 Anders said at 2:49 AM on November 10th, 2014:

    Well lucky for us, Seattle has to come to us after we have over 1 weeks rest.

  312. 312 oreofestar said at 9:26 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Bears are getting destroyed

  313. 313 BC1968 said at 9:27 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I hope they don’t save any points for next week, use them all up tonight.

  314. 314 Henly125 said at 9:32 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    I am absolutely disgusted in the Chicago Bears. They have no identity and are just laying down for the Packers.

    Next week will be a huge test for us.

  315. 315 oreofestar said at 9:34 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    They look atrocious and they are looking atrocious after stealing my boy Kyle Fuller

  316. 316 Henly125 said at 9:36 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Jay Cutler isn’t even worth 1/3 of the contract he received. He’s just awful.

  317. 317 BC1968 said at 9:37 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    There’s talent, there’s no heart to be found in that guy though.

  318. 318 MaggieMagpie said at 9:41 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    He does project a laissez-faire attitude for sure.

  319. 319 Henly125 said at 9:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    There’s no heart at all. He always looks like he doesn’t care.

    Is it me or do the Chicago Bears ALWAYS lose on Sunday night?

  320. 320 MaggieMagpie said at 9:40 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    As of Week 6, Fuller had a broken hand and a “sore” hip, so he likely wasn’t helping a whole lot. Maybe next year. He has played a little since then, though.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/team/roster/kyle-fuller/4102efb1-35d0-482d-a409-b75bebafa428/

  321. 321 oreofestar said at 9:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    OMG what am I watching

  322. 322 BC1968 said at 9:44 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    So the Bears would make a really good college team.

  323. 323 oreofestar said at 9:47 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Well.if the Packers were a college team you’d see them drop 125 every day

  324. 324 BC1968 said at 9:46 PM on November 9th, 2014:

    Glad I didn’t say “I bet Green Bay can’t beat the Bears 55-10” before the game.

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