Posted: May 5th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 783 Comments »

My UDFA review took longer than expected. I took the time to watch tape on everyone, except the punter. Jimmy Bama is the punting expert. I don’t want to infringe on his turf. Next thing you know I’ll wake up with a horse head in my bed. Onto the good stuff…

Here are the 16 undrafted rookies signed by the Eagles:

OG Brett Boyko
OG Malcom Bunche
OG Cole Manhart
OC Mike Coccia
TE Andrew Gleichert
TE Justin Tukes
TE Eric Tomlinson
WR Rasheed Bailey
WR Devante Davis
WR John Harris
RB Raheem Mostert
DE Travis Raciti
DE B.J. McBryde
LB Jordan Dewalt-Ondijo
CB Denzel Rice
P Kip Smith

Now for some details.

OG Brett Boyko – UNLV  – 6-7, 301

Combine info is here. Nothing special athletically. Boyko played LG and LT for the Rebels. He does not have the footwork to play OT in the NFL. He struggled with speed rushers in college. Gets off-balance at times and will lunge at defenders. Boyko is a good run blocker. He comes off the ball quickly and is aggressive. He will win if he gets his hands on the defender cleanly. Boyko is more about effort than talent. Tough, experienced player.

OG Malcom Bunche – UCLA – 6-6, 320

Interesting player. Spent 4 years at Miami and then spent 2014 at UCLA as a grad student. Started at LT in 2012, was mostly a backup at RT and OG in 2013 and then started at both LT and LG in 2014. Doesn’t have the feet to play OT. Is a smart blocker who understands angles and positioning. I need to study more tape to see him as a run blocker. The Bruins didn’t always run the ball a lot. Does have heavy hands. When he gets a shot on a rusher, the guy feels it. Lost his LT and then his LG jobs in 2014. That’s not encouraging. Looked better at LG. Able to pull and block on the move. Showed some potential.

OG Cole Manhart = Nebrask-Kearney – 6-4, 298

I like this kid. Honors student who has already graduated. Started at LT for 3 years in college. Not a natural pass-blocker, but is technically sound with his kick-slide. Has pretty good feet. Able to engage a defender and keep his feet moving. Generates good power when he plays with good pad level. Uses his hands well. Knows his limitations as a pass blocker so tries to quickly get his hands on the rusher to keep him wide of the QB. Smart player. Excellent effort. Blocks to the echo of the whistle. Needs to get stronger. Has the build and blocking style of an Eagles OL. Played LT in the NFLPA all star game and generated some buzz out there. Looked good. Solid showing at his Pro Day. Eagles assistant OL coach Greg Austin was there since Manhart worked at out Nebraska’s Pro Day.

OC Mike Coccia – New Hampshire – 6-3, 302

Quick from snap to block. Has good feet. Likes to get shots in on DTs when he’s uncovered and can help his OG’s out. Good with his hands. Plays too high at times, but generally anchors well in pass pro. Shows good awareness. Handles stunts and blitzes well. Not a great athlete, but had a good Pro Day workout, which the Eagles attended.

TE Andrew Gleichert – Michigan State – 6-5, 258

Played mostly TE, but also a little FB. In 33 career games, caught 6 total passes. Isn’t too hard to figure out what his specialty was. Effective in-line blocker. Good when blocking on the move. Used as a lead blocker in some sets.

TE Justin Tukes – UCF – 6-4, 259

3-year starter who caught 30 career passes. Grinder. He is going to get his money’s worth on every snap. Not a dominant blocker,  but works his butt off. Engages the defender and doesn’t stop until the whistle blows. Looks good in pass pro. Limited as a receiver. Gets a good release, but lacks the agility to make quick cuts and run crisp routes. Fun to watch as a blocker.

TE Eric Tomlinson – UTEP – 6-6, 263

Good prospect. 2-year starter caught 59 career passes. Better blocker than receiver, but moves pretty well for a player his size. Has some really good moments as a blocker. At his best on down blocks. Gets into the defender aggressively and works hard to move him to the inside. Good effort. Struggles to get open as a receiver. Excellent frame. Could easily add 10 pounds and carry it well.

WR Rasheed Bailey – Delaware Valley – 6-1, 205

Dominant player at his level. Bigger, stronger and more athletic than the DBs he went against. That won’t be the case in the NFL. The Eagles saw his Pro Day workout and were impressed. They obviously feel like he at least has a chance to play in the NFL.

WR Devante Davis – UNLV – 6-3, 220

Terrific size/speed combo. Ran 4.57 at 220 pounds. The bad news…Davis struggles to get separation. The good news…he is a big-bodied receiver who is good at making contested catches. Has the size, strength and concentration to catch the ball even with a DB all over him. Good effort as a blocker. Caught 186 career passes for 22 TDs. Lacks the agility you really want in an NFL receiver.

WR John Harris – Texas – 6-2, 213

Has real NFL potential. Very good blocker and talented receiver. Hands catcher who plucks the ball away from his body. Plays to his size. Catches the ball in traffic. Able to take big hits and play through contact. Has pretty good body control. Needs to work on his route running. Played in the slot and outside. Moved around a lot. Redshirted in 2010, then caught a total of 9 passes in 3 years. Exploded as a Senior, going 68-1051-7. Raw, but talented.

RB Raheem Mostert – Purdue – 5-10, 195

Has played WR and RB, but former track star really made his mark as a KOR. Had great showing at his Pro Day. One report had him at 4.32, another at 4.38. Had a 40-inch vertical. Had 5 career returns of more than 71 yards.

DE Travis Raciti – San Jose State – 6-5, 285

Athletic DL who has played DT and DE. Played in both 3-4 and 4-3. At his best in 2012, when he was an attacking 1-gap DT. Some think he could lose weight and play OLB. I watched the Shrine Game, where Raciti played LDE. Did not look good playing in space. More effective playing in traffic. Has 2-gap experience, but still needs work. Has the potential to challenge for backup role.

DE B.J. McBryde – UConn – 6-5, 292

Little-used for 3 years, but emerged as Senior. Started at DT. Also played DE in some 3-man lines. Has good athletic ability for his size. Flashes potential, but doesn’t stand out on a regular basis. Probably best suited to play 3-4 DE.

LB Jordan Dewalt-Ondijo – Duke – 6-4, 239

Played mostly RDE at Duke. Was used in 2 and 3-point stance. Doesn’t stand out as run defender or pass rusher. Solid athlete who might be best suited to play 4-3 SAM. Could also be a good fit in 3-4 as OLB. Will need to bulk up and get stronger.

CB Denzel Rice – Coastal Carolina – 6-0, 190

2-year starter. Broke up 22 passes in those seasons. Has the size the Eagles like in a CB. The Eagles had a scout at his Pro Day. Tom Heckert always said the test with small school guys was to see if they looked dominant at their level. Rice was good, but not special. Press corner. Less effective when playing off. Lacks ideal deep speed.

P Kip Smith – Oklahoma State – 6-1, 235

Began his career at UCLA before moving on to OSU. Has experience as a P, K and KO specialist. Raw, but has good size and a strong leg.

* * * * *

If ranking the UDFAs…

1 – John Harris
2 – Travis Raciti
3 – Brett Boyko
4 – Eric Tomlinson
5 – Cole Manhart
6 – Devante Davis
7 – Jordan Dewalt-Ondijo
8 – Malcom Bunche
9 – Justin Tukes
10-Andrew Gleichert
11- Raheem Mostert
12- Rasheed Bailey
13- BJ McBryde
14- Denzel Rice
* Kip Smith

Since there is such interest in the O-linemen, I’ll be writing more about them in the next few weeks (or sooner).


783 Comments on “The UDFAs”

  1. 1 Charlie Kelly said at 1:01 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    im hoping devante davis lights it up

  2. 2 Weapon Y said at 1:02 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    In all likelihood, there will be one or two players on this list who make the final 53. One of the o-linemen would make sense given the atrocious lack of depth for that group. Manhart particularly sounds promising. I could also see a receiver like Harris or Davis emerging, due to a similarly thin receiver group.

    The OL situation definitely concerns me. It sounds like Mathis has mentally checked out and we’re dealing with a bunch of question marks/mediocre players in Barbre, Tobin, and Gardner competing for the other guard spot. Not to mention Peters, Mathis, Kelce, and Barbre all have significant injury histories. Was it really so hard to take TJ Clemmings or Darryl Williams instead of Jordan Hicks?

  3. 3 Mitchell said at 1:23 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t really think we have a “thin” WR corps. Agholor, Matthews, Huff, hell Cooper makes a pretty decent 4th WR (as much as I hate to say it), even Austin has shown something in previous years. I get what you mean but I think WR is in a better spot than OL, I guess it depends on your opinion of Huff, Cooper and Austin. I don’t think Williams was ever a target. Too clunky. I can get on the Clemmings train though.

  4. 4 Weapon Y said at 1:45 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    OL is less deep than WR, but I would say there isn’t any player as of now I feel comfortable with as the third starting receiver. I love Agholor as a prospect, so I’m good with him. Matthews showed how good he is last year. I’m just worried Cooper, Huff, and Austin could all suck. If Agholor or Matthews get hurt, the passing game will be easily shut down.

  5. 5 Mitchell said at 8:21 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Totally true, while we gained some excellent depth in our defense in general, offense is still lacking at several positions. I guess that’s why team building takes time.

  6. 6 daveH said at 1:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I don’t think those 3 will “suck”. hard to imagine that Austin sucks now. im thinking “Limited”.. like 30 catches each.. and Huff has the biggest upside. so im cool with it

  7. 7 anon said at 3:26 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    wrs are unproven.

  8. 8 shady25 said at 11:41 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I think Chip took a look at the bottom of his roster and didn’t like the WR options that were there. Time to move on from the Oregon guys (Murphy and Maehle). Get some more talent in here that can compete for ST’s spots. Murphy never made if off of the PS and Maehle already had one foot out of the door by the end of the season.

  9. 9 bubqr said at 3:23 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Let’s remember why TJ Clemmings drop so much… Injury issues. Not sure it was the best pick to make in order to counter our already existing injury risks on the OL.
    I don’t like the Hicks pick at all after having watched the videos of him they put at BGN, but I find the reasoning of picking an ILB sound. Demeco and Kendricks won’t be here next year, and all you have is Kiko Alonso, returning from injury, and Brad Jones, just off a team that needs ILB help. Picking one year ahead is good.

  10. 10 eagleyankfan said at 7:25 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Does Hicks have a injury history to follow Ryans/Kendricks/Kiko injuries?

  11. 11 bubqr said at 8:27 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Fair point, however once again I don’t like the player picked, but understand the position.

  12. 12 Ben said at 8:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It would be easier to compile a list of players that have not been injured if that’s all your looking for.
    Those three names you listed just happen to be pro bowl level players so they are worth the gamble IMO.

  13. 13 Mitchell said at 8:22 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Did you watch the Oklahoma game?

  14. 14 bubqr said at 8:26 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Just the first 2 so far (Baylor and can’t remember who), not Oklahoma yet(have not finished to watch them all). Is it really better?
    The Baylor tape especially was abysmal, from the first play(getting pancaked) onwards: missed tackles, no effort to chase the ball at times… Really depressing.

    JaCorey Shepherd on the other end, tackling aside, damn impressive. He is so fluid he actually reminded me of… Lito Sheppard at times. Must be the name.

  15. 15 Mitchell said at 8:28 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    If you watch Oklahoma, you’ll get it. I haven’t brought myself to watch Baylor again but I think Baylor was the one I watched early and that made me think Hicks would be a 4th or 5th rounder. Watch Oklahoma, you’ll feel better.

  16. 16 Media Mike said at 5:07 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    The slop on this roster waiting to start at RG is frightening. So is the dept if/when we have another injury with our starters on the line. I’m hoping one of these un-drafted guys steps up and snatches the starting job at RG.

  17. 17 James Aaron Thomas said at 2:46 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Could be worse… Remember Nick Cole?

    Edit: or Max Jean-Gilles

  18. 18 bill said at 8:24 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Actually, Coccia is the guy I’m going to keep an eye on, and not just because he’s a fellow alum AND from the hometown. Molk was okay on outside runs last year, but a huge amount of the struggles of the OL last year get laid at his feet, due to his inability to pass block or combo block on inside runs. Vandevelde is still around, right? But I think backup C is a spot that is wide open, and given Kelce’s injury history, is a position that has a decent chance of seeing the field sooner rather than later. Maybe Coccia can’t provide the dynamism that Kelce does (not many Cs can), but if he can “hold the fort” in pass pro and on inside zones, he’ll be a vast improvement over 2014 Molk.

    Also hoping one of the Gs is able to kick Gardener off the roster – he’s the guy that had me going “WTF!” at least 2 or 3 times a game last year. He has a future as a matador, clearly, but I don’t think he’s cut out for the NFL.

    Considering his injury that he played through, I have hope for Tobin. He wasn’t nearly as bad upon re-watching a couple games. In between someone better than Molk and Gardener, I think he’s at the very least solid, with a possibility of being above average.

  19. 19 D3FB said at 11:31 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I like Coccia’s chances to be with the team in September. I don’t think the team really cares for Vandervelde, Josh Andrews was the PS center last year and Coccia should be able to beat him out. I don’t think he beats out Molk but he could.

  20. 20 jesse said at 4:37 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    You have to remember any of these guys wouldn’t have looked so bad if they were the only back up on the game it was having 3 back ups on the field at the same time that made them look worse

  21. 21 wee2424 said at 8:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It was if they liked Hicks more.

    Let’s pray that we manage to get Collins.

    I don’t see our WR group really being that thin anymore. Agholor, Mathews, Huff, Cooper, Austin. Not all star cast but it may be deeper then last year. Especially considering Huff and Mathews have another year under their belt. I like Harris though and I see him making the team.

  22. 22 shady25 said at 11:44 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    The OL situation is ok in my opinion. Those guys gained valuable experience last year in some tough down to the wire games. Nothing can beat that. I am fine with Tobin, Gardner and Barbre. Need to find another backup center though. I like the guy Coccia from New Hampshire. Can play C or G. If 2 out of the 4 UDFA’s stick around on the PS after training camp I am fine with that. Also need to see more from Kevin Graff who was on the PS last year. I know it was reported that he spent a lot of time working with Jason Peters after practices last season. Maybe we will see some improvement in him also.

  23. 23 MagLikesDraft said at 1:16 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Coccia, the center, isn’t on the list. Important position.

  24. 24 Sconces said at 1:19 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    he’s on there

  25. 25 Sconces said at 1:17 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Good work Tommy. I’m sure you addressed this, but do you get your college tape from somewhere regular fans can’t access? Or just web browsing?

  26. 26 Joe Minx said at 1:19 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Would love to see Tomlinson make it onto the field as a 6th OL.

  27. 27 Avery Greene said at 1:30 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t know Tommy, with a name like John Harris, he may be destined to fail…

  28. 28 Mitchell said at 1:40 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    On the other hand, with a name like Smuckers, it has to be good.

  29. 29 Bert's Bells said at 6:27 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    The “h” makes all the difference.

  30. 30 dislikedisqus said at 2:41 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Maybe he should change it to Frank O.

  31. 31 Baloophi said at 2:08 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Tommy – we all know waking up with a horse head in your bed wouldn’t phase you. But perhaps this would…

  32. 32 A_T_G said at 7:46 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I am not sure why this image is so disturbing – maybe the expression on Tommy’s face, maybe the lack of schoolgirl Megan standing next to the bed – but it is.

  33. 33 Ark87 said at 9:10 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I know the parody that is trying to be achieved, however given the face I have to read it as Tommy downs an entire 12 pack of PBR in bed before going to sleep and wakes up completely revitalized because PBR and funyuns are his manna. OR he downs a 12 pack before getting out of bed every morning and feels damn fine for it.

  34. 34 TommyLawlor said at 7:51 AM on May 5th, 2015:


  35. 35 Nelson ALGore said at 2:57 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Almost a whole new team from last year… Cooper remains lol

  36. 36 EaglesFan1 said at 6:56 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s the new casey mathews. He just won’t go away.

  37. 37 Insomniac said at 4:24 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I’m hoping Davis replaces Cooper eventually I mean week one.

  38. 38 GermanEagle said at 7:26 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    GE’s (not so) bold season prediction:

    – with a healthy Sam Bradford the Eagles will make a deep playoff run

    – with an unhealthy Sam Bradford the Eagles are looking for a franchise QB in next year’s draft again.

  39. 39 fran35 said at 8:24 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    If Bradford gets hurt, we are screwed. I say this with no malice in my heart, but I abhor Sanchez. I would rather watch GJ Kinne out there.

  40. 40 bubqr said at 8:28 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    In some kind of way, if Bradford gets hurt again, it might be wise to follow the Sixers path down the tank road in order to get our franchise QB.

  41. 41 the DONALD said at 8:41 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    not really how football works.. just trade away the future if you can, tanking isnt a football move.. generally.

  42. 42 GermanEagle said at 9:57 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yes, agreed. Chip Kelly wants to win EVERY game. Prime Example was the last season game against the Giants last year. Just imagine if he’d have played Barkley instead and probably finished at No. 16 in this year’s draft order.
    Tanking ain’t gonna happen folks, not under Chippah.

  43. 43 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:22 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    It hasn’t worked in the NBA, either.

  44. 44 the DONALD said at 10:35 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    debatable.. the Thunder/Sonics did it pretty well, Houston.. the Sixers are doing it well (possibly not in your eyes), unfinished product…

  45. 45 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Don’t think the Thunder really tanked, they just sucked and happen to hit on their draft picks. Houston, to my recollection, has always been a solid team and got their stars through free agency and analytics-based drafting. If you look at teams that win the championship, they aren’t tankers (unless you consider David Robinson’s broken foot that led to drafting Tim Duncan a tank job). Personally, I think the Sixers thing is a con job, but I guess we’ll see how it plays out.

  46. 46 the DONALD said at 9:03 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    and thats why it is debatable.. some people see one thing… others see another.. enjoy the NFL season.. bball is almost done. NO tanking in FOOTBALL.. and thunder and houston did tank…lakers did this year, the knicks, sacarmento has in the past. so many teams have or were those teams just “bad” come on… in the NBA if you want to be good you can be at least decent.. if your at the bottom, it was on purpose aka TANKING.

  47. 47 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:11 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yes, it’s debatable as you say. I say, teams do tank, but it hasn’t been successful. Scroll down this list of NBA champions, and that will be quickly shown:

    Anyways, basketball is pretty much over for me, since my Spurs got knocked out.

  48. 48 Dominik said at 8:42 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Kelly would never do that. And if he doesn’t want it, it won’t happen. Sanchez was 4-4 last year. In a whole season, it would maybe be 6-10, worst case. But Kelly is too good as a coach to finish 2-14 or 4-12.

    But don’t get me wrong, it will be frustrating if Sanchez has to play a lot of games, especially early. There is no way you can make a run with him. Sanchez is a good back-up, maybe one of the best back-ups in the league, but clearly limited (which is why he is a back-up). A limited QB would need an elite Defense to win a playoff game and while I think our D has improved, I don’t think it would be elite enough to carry the team to a playoff win.

    And if you KNOW you can’t win a playoff game, most fans want the better draft position. It’s just not how Kelly (or most of his players) thinks.

  49. 49 anon said at 12:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    ehh….i think Kelly realizes the value of a franchise QB, look at what he did to get Sammy B and the moves he made to try to get MM, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did what he had to do to get a QB.

  50. 50 Dominik said at 12:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Kelly had the chance to make his Mariota run simpler by simply letting Barkley play against the Giants in Week 17. He didn’t.

    Kelly knows the value of a Franchise QB, no doubt. But he will never lose on purpose. If he won’t lose on purpose in the year his dream QB comes out, I guess it’s safe to say he will never do it.

    And while that can be frustrating to fans (to me personally, too), I do see a logic in that. Belichick, f.e., always tries to score, even if the game is decided. You sent a message to your players with your actions as a HC and that message can be valuable.

  51. 51 Anders said at 12:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Even if we lost in week 17, the Titans still draft Mariota. They was dead set on it, so they wasnt even entertaining offers.

  52. 52 Dominik said at 3:05 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think it was kind of a surprise that Whisenhunt really wants to work with MM. No way Chip knew he won’t get Mariota in December. He tried til the last second.

  53. 53 eagleyankfan said at 7:40 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    This is a great read with coffee in hand. Any player that “plays until the whistle” should get a + in the evaluation.
    If Bailey(6’1) will face bigger and stronger CB’s in the NFL, why is (6’0) the size the Eagles like at CB? I get the avg. height at the CB spot(on the Eagles) is 6′ but I think 6′ is on the smaller side. It’s not like these CB’s are shut down specialist. I’m excited about this group compared to last year and it’s a definite upgrade. I’m just not sure yet how good they actually are.
    Just guesses(and I’ll forget when final rosters are announced) — a WR should be able to crack the roster. Maybe even Manhart. NE use to breed linemen. I don’t know if that’s the case anymore.

  54. 54 ICDogg said at 11:24 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    The average NFL cornerback is 5-foot-11, 193.4 pounds. The average wide receiver: 6-foot-1.

  55. 55 eagleyankfan said at 12:13 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    that’s part of my point. how will Bailey, at 6’1 face bigger CB’s in the nfl?
    My other point is, Seattle. Some of their CB’s are 6’3. A team we should probably model a bit. I’d think the Eagles would want bigger corners(I know, easier to say than find)

  56. 56 Anders said at 12:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Well the average college corner is most likely well under the average NFL cb. So if you have trouble with college CB, great chance you will have even more trouble with the bigger and faster NFL CBs

  57. 57 ICDogg said at 1:47 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Big corners out of school with experience in physical play, press coverage, etc… not many exist. You have to find guys who you feel have the attributes you want and develop them.

  58. 58 Ben said at 8:33 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Eric Rowe?

  59. 59 Benjamin Brophy said at 8:46 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Great piece Tommy, nice dedication watching game film on that many UDFAs. We’re all hoping 1-2 of those O-lineman turn into something.

  60. 60 philllyfanatic said at 8:48 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Tommy, do you have any thoughts on OG Antoine Everett from McNeese State? 6’2″ and 328 lbs. He went undrafted and has some tools. Heavy hands, nimble feet, very good run blocking and can get out in space to the second level. Wish the Eagles would have signed him as an UDFA. I don’t think anyone has signed him yet.

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 8:59 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Mike Sieleski provided a nice stat…right now, 50% of our offensive lineman were UDFA’s which doesn’t sound too great. But when you look at the OL’s of the top 4 teams last year, Colts, Patriots, seahawks and packers, 49% of their OL’s are made up of Undrafted players….

    Hopefully 1 or 2 of these UDFA Lineman turn out to be a pleasant surprise

  62. 62 philllyfanatic said at 9:00 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    They oughta take a look at Antoine Everett from McNeese State. He broke his foot at his pro-day, but expects to be ready to go for July training camps.

  63. 63 GEAGLE said at 9:02 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I really really want Lael Collins, but that’s not going to happen

  64. 64 philllyfanatic said at 9:05 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Me too, and I just don’t understand why. All reports from coaches and players close to him is that he is a good guy. If he is cleared then why wouldn’t you want him? If he is guilty you simply cut him. Seems like very little risk if you ask me.

  65. 65 PerfectTrader777 said at 9:19 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    His money is capped with whoever he signs with so he’ll sign with whoever is the best fit for him. Who wants to turn down Philly at this point?!

  66. 66 philllyfanatic said at 9:40 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t think his money is capped. He’s a FA so any team can pay whatever they want. He should want to play in Philly. They have an immediate opening with Herremans gone. He’d pretty much be guaranteed the job is his with no one looking over his shoulder.

  67. 67 Bert's Bells said at 9:44 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    He has to fit into the rookie cap, like all UDFA. There are apparently some tricks to get guys a little more money (second year roster bonuses, I think I read) but they still need to fit into the budget.

    No team has more financial leverage than any other.

  68. 68 PerfectTrader777 said at 10:10 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yep. Here’s where I get cap info from:

  69. 69 Bert's Bells said at 10:27 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Good article.

  70. 70 MattE said at 9:53 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Cowherd the other day: 30% (or 33%) of the league are UDFA’s….. which sounds about right, hitting on 66% of your draft should be a realistic goal every year.

  71. 71 Avery Greene said at 9:58 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Interesting, so that means roughly 4 picks out of this draft.
    I def think the first 3, but with 2 more CBs, hopefully we hit on one of them and maybe the big DE will develop into a rotational player.

    Though, is this starters or contributors? I would think that a backup that gets decent time (BG last year) is a hit, but maybe not by Cowherd if he’s not a starter.

  72. 72 MattE said at 10:10 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    he was talking everyone just employed in the league (HOF’s right down to the guys in the league for career avg. 3 years)…..

    Elite Players: only the top 5% (rough guess?) are actually super stars= 1,696 (league total) x 5% = 84 elite players / 32 teams = 2.6 elite players per team……on the flip side

    UDFA’s: (53 (roster size) x 32 (teams) = 1,696 players of which 33% are UDFA’s = 560 UDFA’s / 32 teams = 17 UDFA’s per team)

    …..all in all i think these are reasonable numbers when looking at NFL rosters at the extremes, those 17 guys are probably ST’s/Situational/3.3 year NFL career avg. guys, or the occasional Burfict/Arian Foster (who probably are 5% of UDFA’s of all time).

  73. 73 Avery Greene said at 10:11 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Ahh thanks for the clarification. Yeah, if you are hitting on 2/3 of your draft, then you should be doing pretty well.

  74. 74 MattE said at 10:13 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    but you are right though a 1st rounder should not be out of the league in 3.3 years lol

  75. 75 MattE said at 10:14 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    funny how that number coincides with the length of a rookie contract.

  76. 76 Bert's Bells said at 10:17 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    (repeat of above comment) Practice squad guys are in the union and may count in those numbers. That makes the roster 63.

  77. 77 MattE said at 10:19 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    totals would inflate, but percentage is the same

  78. 78 Bert's Bells said at 10:16 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I assume that counts practice squad players. Of those ten guys, more than half are likely to be undrafted.

  79. 79 MattE said at 10:18 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    yeah cowherd didn’t clarify, just a good number i heard, but regardless of roster size 30%-33% sounds right in regards to draft hits? Did it feel like Reid hit on 2/3 every draft? I feel like it was closer to 50% at best in Reid’s era….. the best indicator in my opinion is how many draft picks Reid had reach a 2nd contract.

  80. 80 PerfectTrader777 said at 9:24 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Devante Davis has Terrell Owens upside if he can learn to run clean routes and has few drops. Rasheed Bailey looks unbelievable with his ability to adjust in the air and his hands are excellent. He doesn’t have the top line speed or route running you like in a guy only 6 ft but I believe his other traits will override that. Highly underrated imo. John harris looks like Josh Huff but 3 inches taller. Good blocker but nothing special receiver-wise.

  81. 81 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:25 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Not to be down on Devante ‘TO’ Davis, but he could compare to TO in 2012…. not 2002.

    One of the top comparative players to Devante is Marvin McNutt

  82. 82 Anders said at 2:43 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    TO’s combine/pro day numbers are not on that site because he was drafted before 1999 and I cant really find em, but TO ran around a 4.35 at around 220.

  83. 83 anon said at 11:50 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Devante Davis doesn’t get open against college DBs. Has no chance even against Boykin.

  84. 84 PerfectTrader777 said at 11:53 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s a middle of the field guy. Shields well on slant routes and runs dbs over off the line of scrimmage.

  85. 85 Mitchell said at 12:42 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It’s all in the route running. He’s got just enough speed that all he has to do is get up on the db make his move, stack the db and he is gonna make some tasty plays downfield. I’ve learned this year that speed doesn’t really mean anything if you can’t use it a la Perriman.

  86. 86 anon said at 1:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    not even speed wise, watching his tape he gets no separation, probably why he has to be suck a good body blocker. Separation isn’t just speed (djax) but also route running (mac).

  87. 87 Mitchell said at 1:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    That’s what I just said lol. I was just saying his lack of speed won’t hold him back as long as he learns how to be a profficient route runner.

  88. 88 anon said at 1:35 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    yeah it’d be nice to have a vet here to teach him how to route run, matthews is basically the leader of that totally rebuilt WR corps.

  89. 89 Mitchell said at 1:41 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Good point. I guess we have Austin who at least showed a couple of productive years

  90. 90 CrackSammich said at 10:11 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Boldest prediction: Any kind of disappointing season leads to Billy Davis being shown the door next offseason.

  91. 91 the DONALD said at 10:36 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    especially now with the additions on D…

  92. 92 Bert's Bells said at 10:54 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    BOLDEREST prediction: Barkley traded to Buffalo for Rex Ryan to replace Davis

  93. 93 PerfectTrader777 said at 10:59 AM on May 5th, 2015:


  94. 94 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:19 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Thanks, Tommy. We are all so lucky for the everyday excellence you bring here.

  95. 95 MattE said at 10:21 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Draft success = Player reaching 2nd contract (even with another team)?

    Any other opinions?

  96. 96 BreakinAnklez said at 10:28 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Career starts or maybe snaps played

  97. 97 RogerPodacter said at 3:07 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    anything you come up with will always have people that disagree with it…

    just think, by the metric you listed, Kurt Coleman would be a success after he got a contract with Minn. (that did happen, right?)

    i think you have to weigh the success based on the draft status — 1st rd picks have to perform better than 7th rounders to be called a success.

    a guy like Kelce should be seen as a miracle pick – a late rounder having such great success with the team, 2nd contract TBD.

  98. 98 James Adair said at 7:14 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    IMHO Coleman was a successful 7th round pick

  99. 99 anon said at 3:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Different expectations for different rounds, frankly i like guys that produce in the rookie contract — may be don’t produce until contract year and then move on. Then you’ve basically lost all of that $$ you’ve spent over the last 4 years.

  100. 100 Avery Greene said at 10:46 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    CK says Rowe will play CB. Is this where he’ll stay and which is more important S or CB? Or asked a different way, if both Safeties are good, then is it okay to be a little weak at one CB spot? Or if both CBs are good, is it okay to be a little weak at one of the S spots?

  101. 101 PerfectTrader777 said at 10:50 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I liked his tape a lot better at safety. Very good at breaking down and tackling in the open field. I’d rather be weak at a CB spot instead of S. Look what New England did with Revis last year. 1 lockdown CB as well as S. One of best pass defenses in the league.

  102. 102 Dominik said at 10:50 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Kelly would probably answer your question with weaker Safety is okay if the CBs are good. He said in a one on one session with CSN that “In our opinion, it’s harder to find good CBs”, which is why Rowe will start there.

    If you look at the Patriots, that seems to be true. One superstar Corner, one good Corner, one superstar Safety and Patrick Chung = top 2 Secondary in the league.

    But let’s also not forget, Belichick can hide weaknesses better than Billy D can.

  103. 103 Anders said at 12:01 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Its hard to hide weaknesses when your starting secondary consists of Nate Allen, Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher, oppose to Browner, Revis and McCourty

  104. 104 Dominik said at 12:43 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    No doubt. I didn’t meant to say that Billy D is an idiot. Personally, I think he didn’t exactly help the Secondary last season (he and his assistants did help the Front Seven), but of course there was a talent issue.

    While we’re at it. Will be fascinating to see what Belichick does this year. He lost Revis and Browner, signed Fletcher and didn’t draft a CB until round 6. If he really wants to go into the season with Fletcher and Chung as starters – Belichick is the best, but I don’t know if you can hide both of them.

  105. 105 Anders said at 12:47 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He had terrible secondary before Revis and Browner, so my guess is they crash

  106. 106 Dominik said at 3:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It’s possible you’re right. What I don’t get is: Belichick is the best in the game. Yes, some of his GM decisions are head scratchers. Yes, he knew he would have to change his Defense because he knew he couldn’t keep Revis, Browner and McCourty. But why not at least draft a Corner to coach him up?

    I could see BB taking a year to re-load and probably not winning the SB (you never know, they will win their Division and if you’re in it…), he’s always a long term thinker. But why not even give yourself players in the Secondary to coach up for ’16 and beyond? Don’t get it. The only thing I do know: Bradley Fletcher isn’t the answer to any of these question, especially long term.

  107. 107 PerfectTrader777 said at 1:01 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Lot of run first teams in the AFC East. Miami added a couple WR weapons and so did the Jets but none of these teams have a good QB besides maybe Tannehill. Just have to beat your division as we saw last yr with the panthers.

  108. 108 Mitchell said at 10:55 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I would venture it depends on where Rowe is better. If he is better at safety you have an above average safety duo. If he is better at corner you have above average corner duo. The biggest thing is you are good somewhere to cover up weaknesses of the group that is lacking. Hence the problem with last year. Overall, we weren’t average or above average at either group.

  109. 109 Anders said at 12:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    What ever DB that can slide inside and match with TEs like Graham and Gronk (aka Rowe can do it no matter if he is CB or S)

  110. 110 RogerPodacter said at 3:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    if he can match up against those guys and get the job done, you can call him whatever you want. i don’t care what his position is on paper!

  111. 111 Anders said at 2:42 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    At Utah he was “CB” last year, but still moved around a lot.

    It also opens up the defense if the CB and S can switch. I still remember the Samuel interception in 2008 against the Colts.

    Samuel switched position with Mikell so he could better watch Mannings eyes, so on that play Samuel was playing FS and Mikell was playing CB in a cover 2 look.

  112. 112 PerfectTrader777 said at 10:47 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    The one thing I noticed this offseason is that Chip is acquiring tougher players. Demarco Murray and Ryan Matthews instead of McCoy. Beefing up the linebacking corps. Eric Rowe. Davante Davis. Big people beat up little people. Who would you rather tackle in the 4th quarter of a game after 3 quarters of constant uptempo: McCoy or Demarco?

  113. 113 Bert's Bells said at 10:51 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Honestly, they’re about even.

  114. 114 PerfectTrader777 said at 10:55 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I agree but it’s possible the defenses were more tired vs Eagles in 4th than vs Dallas. McCoy is still great, don’t get me wrong.

  115. 115 Dominik said at 10:52 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    I’m with you, but let’s not act like Shady wasn’t good in the 4th. You could quote Ali on that one: “You can’t hit what you can’t see”

  116. 116 Bert's Bells said at 10:53 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Right. McCoy’s 4th quarter numbers say it all.

  117. 117 Dominik said at 10:55 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Now, you could argue it hurts more for Defenders to tackle Murray or Mathews. I think that’s true and kind of the point PerfectTrader777 wanted to make (I think). But if Shady takes it in for the TD, after he juked a Safety to the ground instead of ran over him, it doesn’t really matter in the end.

  118. 118 Bert's Bells said at 11:21 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Pretty sure we’re all happy when the team is running the ball in the 4th quarter. Better yet if it’s Trey Burton or someone because the third string is getting some reps in.

  119. 119 PerfectTrader777 said at 11:57 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Lets hope Tebow is runnin in a lot of 2-point conversions too :).

  120. 120 Ray888 said at 11:40 AM on May 5th, 2015:

    Boston Globe has Pats with opposite problem from Eagles; Pats were able to draft OL depth but no DB’s when they had needs for both. Apparently this was a pattern with BB over the years in drafting that produced imbalances in roster make-up which he has usually addressed by trading for veterans. There could be a trading partner here as both teams access their surpluses and needs. A landing spot for Boykin or any other DB vets who are displaced by the draftees?

  121. 121 SteveH said at 12:10 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Pats are doing alright though with those 5 championships in the last 15 years. I guess any shortcomings in drafting can be forgiven.

  122. 122 Anders said at 12:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I guess it helps to have the greatest QB ever playing at a discount

  123. 123 Greg Richards said at 12:06 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Players known to be attending Eagles rookie minicamp on tryout basis(besides drafted rookies and signed UDFAs):

    Mike Zeuli, LB, Princeton
    Andy Vallas, QB, New Hampshire
    Daniel Fitzpatrick, S, Tennessee State
    Joe Sarnese, S, Villanova
    Ofa Hautau, DT, Oklahoma State
    Justin Oxendine, DE/OLB, Citadel

  124. 124 PerfectTrader777 said at 12:57 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Andy Vailas played at Chip’s first coaching gig school. They still run an up-tempo, slightly hilarious, style of offense. That’s all I know about this kid. Here’s a highlight video i just found:

  125. 125 mksp said at 12:08 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Interesting comments from Louis Riddick on Eagles FO:

    “Following the conclusion of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles fired three members of the scouting department in the form of Anthony Patch, director of pro personnel Rick Mueller and Southwest area scout Brad Obee were let go.

    ESPN analyst Louis Riddick spent five years as an executive in the Eagles’ personnel department, and on Tuesday he gave an inside look at how the team’s front office operates.

    “Its important for the people who are in positions of leadership to not create an atmosphere where there’s politics,” Riddick said during an intereview with Anthony Gargano of 97.5 FM in Philadelphia. “Not to create an atmosphere of ‘are you with me, or are you with the coaches?’ It’s important that you foster a very positive work environment the people know they’ll never have to choose, compromise your integrity or anything like that. Quite honestly, that is the kind of thing that happens there.

    Just like on the football field, Riddick believes that the front office needs to stress a team-first approach.

    “It doesn’t matter if it’s coaching staff, if it’s personnel,” he said. “You need to eliminate as much politics and as much of the possibility for people to exercise their own agendas as possible. Those sort of things makes your organization rot from the inside out. It manifests itself in your guys not producing. That’s what was happening there.”

    “That’s just what was happening. They’re trying to clean it up now. This isn’t just about football. It isn’t just about scouting. It happens in all walks of life. In all businesses. You need a healthy working environment where everyone is pulling in the right direction. They’re trying to get it that way now.”

    The process of cleaning up the front office is a fluid one, and it will be interesting to track who else comes and goes during Chip Kelly’s tenure with the Eagles.”

  126. 126 Avery Greene said at 12:11 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I agree with him, it is something we see in all walks of life.

    The question is whether or not it will be for the best long-term. IMO it will, but I believe in CK. Others, not so much.

    I hope to see he hires more scouts, because someone has to take that workload. Maybe he brings some more guys in from Alabama or Oregon to join the staff.

  127. 127 mksp said at 12:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Sounds like Riddick thinks guys like Howie, Patch, and Mueller were largely responsible for the “Us (Personnel) vs. Them (Coaches)” mentality that Chip alluded to.

    He seems to be on board with Chip and Ed’s housecleaning.

    And honestly, so am I. This draft was run very well from an outsider’s perspective. And I would bet that Chip has a very thoughtful, educated “management plan” that he and Ed have put together for rebuilding that side of the organization.

  128. 128 Anders said at 12:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    So far, I love the pairing of Chip and Ed.

  129. 129 Greg Richards said at 12:33 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Here’s my thing: You can argue about the organizational structure all you want. You can argue accurately that Roseman needed to be replaced. That still does not excuse Kelly and Gamble from bypassing the organizational structure that was in place and freezing out Roseman and the scouts. Kelly was at least as responsible for the coaches/scouts divide as Roseman was.

  130. 130 Avery Greene said at 12:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Let’s be fair here. If Roseman is playing Madden/Fantasy Football and CK is looking for a certain prototype and not getting it – yeah I understand where CK is coming from.

    The job of the GM and Scouts is to get the best player for the coach, not the best perceived player in the draft.

  131. 131 anon said at 12:39 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    the way it should be, not often the way it is.

  132. 132 Greg Richards said at 12:45 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Look at the players that we picked in the first 2 drafts. What evidence is there that we were looking at guys that didn’t fit the prototype? Regardless we were not an organization at that point where the HC had total control of personnel. Yes, any GM should try to get players that fits the scheme, but a coach should also have some degree of flexibility both in his parameters and his scheme to make exceptions for talent.

    Look at this from Roseman and the scouting perspective. They scout these guys year round and view the players multiple times. Coaches don’t get involved into the process until late January. They are scouting talent 3 months a year. Chip spouts off about having everyone focus on what they excel at. Regardless of what you think at Roseman, then don’t you think that letting the full-timers do their job and not be unduly influenced by part-timers fits into that mantra? Roseman saw first-hand in the 2011 draft what happens when you let coaches push picks. You get taking Watkins and Jarrett in the first 2 rounds.

  133. 133 Avery Greene said at 12:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    There’s nothing about CK that doesn’t tell me that he isn’t involved in the process during the season. Not with all the detail he puts into everything he does.

    Even if you take Roseman’s perspective, at the end of the day it’s the coach that has to make those decisions and has to live with the players drafted. The coach usually goes before the GM because the coach is the one out front, unless you’re Matt Millen.

  134. 134 Greg Richards said at 12:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Kelly himself, maybe. He has said directly that the other coaches don’t get involved until the season is over.

  135. 135 Avery Greene said at 12:54 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think CK is directly involved until he gets his operation where he wants it. I don’t understand what happened between interview/accepted offer to not trusting Roseman.

    I think all of us would like to know what happened between those walls that led to this – and most likely we’ll never know. But from what I see CK does not trust Roseman with both scouting and drafting.

  136. 136 Brian Pillion said at 12:44 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I dunno, as smart as he appears to be, I’ve always gotten the vibe (and seen reported) that Howie was overly political, demanding of allegiance, paranoid, etc. I think he had some insecurities about his lack of a scouting background, and the perceptions of others concerning how he had or had not earned his position at the head of a scouting operation. I really don’t think you can put any divide that there might have been on Kelly.

  137. 137 Greg Richards said at 12:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If, and this is basically what has been reported, he had gone behind Howie’s back and ignored him and frozen out a chunk of the scouting staff including the Director of College Scouting and only listened to the input of Gamble, a guy that was behind Roseman in the chain of command, then yes it’s fair to blame Kelly. You can not like the chain of command all you want. You can rightly think there needs to be changes made to the chain-of-command. You can even think there doesn’t need to be a vertical chain-of-command structure at all. When there’s a chain-of-command structure in place, every employee should be expected to follow it.

  138. 138 Brian Pillion said at 12:58 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Except if Howie got to the top of that chain by politicking, going behind people’s backs, etc. and generally infused the whole structure with the sort of paranoia that such behaviors elicit… Well then, yeah… I don’t really care too much about assigning blame or whatever, I’m just generally on board with where Chip and Ed seem to want to take this thing.

  139. 139 Anders said at 12:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I would listen to zero of what he has to say about the Eagles FO consider he was fired by Howie at a time where many outsiders thought he was moving fast upwards and could be a future GM

  140. 140 anon said at 12:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You see he’s retired to ESPN, i hate how he always sounds like he has an axe to grind with these guys.

  141. 141 Anders said at 12:16 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I thought he was great on ESPN during the draft, but anything related to the old Eagles FO, it is clear that he is still mad he got fired by Howie.

    Take Banner, never ever talk about the Eagles FO, no matter what he might feel about getting replaced by Howie.

  142. 142 Greg Richards said at 12:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s been fired by 2 different teams and now is stuck trolling at ESPN. He’s bitter and uses every chance he can get to take pot shots at the guy that got the job that his ego thinks should have gone to him.

  143. 143 Anders said at 12:19 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    yep, if he had been so good at his job, he would have been picked up again after the Eagles, but he didnt at all.

    I much rather listen to Middlekauff (no matter how hot his takes might be, but he sticks too em), Banner (guy is a pool of wisdom) and Jeremiah, when we talk ex-Eagles scouts or FO people

  144. 144 Greg Richards said at 12:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He interviewed with the Chiefs, and Andy didn’t want any part of him either.

  145. 145 Anders said at 12:21 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    That is bad consider Andy seems to have fetish for any ex-Eagles related

  146. 146 Avery Greene said at 12:21 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I like DJ, and I have no opinion on Riddick. Probably because I don’t have much time to read ESPN, but then again not a fan of their reporting in general.

    In this case, I do agree about politics in the office and his general principle here is correct IMO – even if the source is someone I don’t like.

  147. 147 Anders said at 12:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He is 100% right, but why comment on the Eagles like that instead of just in general? Every team fires scoutes etc right after the draft

  148. 148 Avery Greene said at 12:35 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I can agree with this, no need to take pot shots at people.

  149. 149 anon said at 12:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Interesting we had some pretty terrible drafts under banner, way better contract guys than evaluator — though i guess that’s why Howie is who he is,

  150. 150 Anders said at 12:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Under Banner, Andy was the main man. Remember Banner was more active when we drafted Dawkins, Trotter, Tra Thomas,

  151. 151 SteveH said at 12:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Just need one Ced Thornton out of the bunch to make it a worthwhile group.

  152. 152 Anders said at 12:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think Tobin is gonna be the next Thornton this year and I have read that the coaches love Graf.

    Raheem Mostert has a real chance to stick if he is impressive on ST.

  153. 153 Avery Greene said at 12:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think there’s a reason they didn’t seem to go for an OL in the draft (and not just because our defense needed it most). I do think they like what they have.

  154. 154 Anders said at 12:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Between Graf, Tobin, Barbre and Gardner, Im not as worried as many.

    Many also meant we had to draft OG because we had already traded Mathis.

  155. 155 MattE said at 1:11 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  156. 156 wee2424 said at 1:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Speaking of the DE position, I’m actually pretty excited about Mahlik (check spelling). I don’t see him really doing anything this year, but he is more athletic then Thornton and has a huge frame in which he could gain more weight. I like Ced ALOT, but with good coaching and hard work he has the potential to surpass Ced on the depth chart at some point.

  157. 157 Anders said at 12:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The Eagles are Reportedly Showing Interest in La’el Collins— Kyle Scott (@CrossingBroad) 5. maj 2015

    I would love this if he is cleared (not just a settlement, but 100% cleared)

  158. 158 MattE said at 12:21 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    we gotta counter act Dallas getting Randy Gregory somehow lol

  159. 159 Anders said at 12:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Difference is that Collins have done nothing wrong and Gregory is just stupid, not like he is a wife beater or murderer

  160. 160 Insomniac said at 12:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Cops aren’t done with their investigation. What the media has on the murder is extremely vague. So it’s going to be awhile since he gets signed somewhere if he’s cleared. Don’t we have a 90 man roster already anyway?

  161. 161 Anders said at 12:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I bet one of the UDFAs is cut if we get him

  162. 162 Insomniac said at 12:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    True. Best case scenario is that he comes here to learn from his idol Jason Peters and starts at RG.

  163. 163 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I would be ecstatic if we signed him, because it would be incredible value. However i fail to see how we get it done when we can only offer him a possibility to compete for a RG spot, while other teams can offer RT and even LT starting sports. Money will be the same in every team since you are so limited in what you can do – he will get 3 years fully guaranteed from any team trying to sign him.

    Only way Eagles sign him is if he is in love with our setup and Chip and wants to come in and do the sports science thing.

  164. 164 Insomniac said at 12:44 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Collins can be our future RT. He doesn’t quite have the foot quickness to be a LT in a zone blocking scheme that we run. He’ll start at RG and slide to RT when Peters retires/Lane moves to LT.

  165. 165 Avery Greene said at 12:45 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah, I figured Lane was going to be Peters replacement all along.

  166. 166 wee2424 said at 1:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The question is he willing to play guard for the Eagles while on alot of other teams he would immediately step into the RT role. Different pay rates when it comes to the next contract contract.

  167. 167 anon said at 1:13 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’d probably talk to disgruntled Mathis who would say don’t do it.

  168. 168 Insomniac said at 1:31 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Unless he wants to play for a loser team like the Jaguars…no he shouldn’t be that picky. He would be smart to learn from three All-Pros and work his ass off for a better contract.

  169. 169 wee2424 said at 4:11 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He has every right to be picky. If he plays guard it could affect his contractual value compared to if he is playing tackle.

    ALOT of teams are going to be clamoring for him because his talent and how cheap he will initially be. He has every right to be picky. This is after all part of the reason why he wanted to be an UDFA, so he could pick.

  170. 170 Insomniac said at 4:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    No. His performance will determine whether he will be paid. Collins played OG for a year and moved to OT in college. If he can’t do that in the NFL then he has no choice but to be an OG.

  171. 171 FairOaks said at 5:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If he gets a chance to prove he can play OT right off the bat, then maybe move inside if he can’t, he’ll give himself the best chance of the biggest payday down the line. Tackles will make significantly more than guards. So… if he comes into that negotiation as a 2 or 3 year starter at tackle, it would be very different than 1-2 years at guard and the *potential* to move to tackle. I think the Eagles might be a reasonably attractive option but there are probably teams with more openings as well. There are plenty of other factors — quality and prospects of the team, closeness to home (who knows), teammates he might know… lots of things can matter. But if the OT thing is the most important, and financially it could be, the Eagles might be down the list a bit (but better than teams all set at OL).

  172. 172 Insomniac said at 6:26 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t think moving from another position and having versatility will hurt his contract negotiations if he turns out to be good. Devin McCourty stunk as a CB nut that didn’t stop teams from trying to throw around 10mil a year for him as a safety. Collins will have a shot at OT here but it won’t be right away. Perhaps it’s a good thing considering how often rookies struggle to adapt to the NFL right away. From what I read, the only differences between OG and OT is muscle memory, dealing with DTs and having a TE right next to you.

  173. 173 PerfectTrader777 said at 6:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Lot more to it than that. One example is arm length. Tackles need long arms to defend against quick edge rushers.

  174. 174 Insomniac said at 6:58 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yup it’s a factor but it’s not very critical unless you have t-rex arms. Interesting tidbit Peters has shorter arms than Collins does.

    Joe Thomas – 32 1/2 inches
    Jason Peters – 33 1/8 inches
    La’el Collins – 33 1/4 inches

  175. 175 FairOaks said at 7:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Right, and since he’ll be eligible for an extension in two years, if he plays those two years at guard (so that his ability at tackle is still projection), he may not get as big bucks. So maybe he switches to tackle and waits another year for a big extension if he plays well. But if he was a tackle right off the bat and great at it, he could command a big extension in just two years. But if he plays tackle on a terrible line otherwise, it may not look as good. So who knows.

  176. 176 wee2424 said at 6:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Not true. A good tackle is going to get paid more then a good guard. Sort of like how WRs get paid more then TEs, hence that whole Jimmy Graham saga.

    I never said he couldn’t play tackle, but he wouldn’t move to tackle untill Peter’s is off the team.

    If he plays guard untill JP leaves then his contract expires the team will say you never played tackle yet. Why would we pay you like a good one?

    The agents argument would be that he played guard at a high level, and he has potential to be a good tackle.

    Why would the FO pay him like a good tackle if he never played tackle?

    He would maximize his contractual value by going to a team where he would play tackle immediately.

  177. 177 Anders said at 12:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The Eagles can point to how old Peters and Mathis is and point to Stoutland.

  178. 178 wee2424 said at 1:07 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Agree. The Eagles sound like such a perfect fit for him untill you realize he won’t even be playing tackle. When it’s time for his next contract depending on when Peter’s leaves he may not get paid the money he wants due to the position he was playing.

    I’m sure he would much rather step into a RT or LT role immediately to maximize his value for his next contract.

  179. 179 PerfectTrader777 said at 1:08 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You make a good point about not wanting to play G this year. An UDFA gets to restructure a new deal after 2 years instead of the usual 3 for players drafted. In that regard, it’s not all that bad for LC.

  180. 180 wee2424 said at 1:10 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It could be because if he is playing G for two years the contractual value would be less then if he were playing tackle.

  181. 181 GEAGLE said at 12:42 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Hopefully Bennie Logan is recruiting him as we speak

  182. 182 Greg Richards said at 12:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The article says the Eagles are interested but doesn’t link to any supporting evidence.

  183. 183 Avery Greene said at 12:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah, I’m tempering my optimism based on this. I’d love it, but not getting excited until things start to heat up in contract talks.

  184. 184 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Every team in the NFL is interested except maybe the Pats. Question is how the legal situation is resolved and if we can be picked above the other 31 teams in the league.

  185. 185 Brian Pillion said at 12:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I’m not so sure. Independent of the whole murder investigation, does anyone know the story behind that locker room posting that was reportedly calling out Collins and others at LSU for missing team activities, always having excuses, etc. We’d all love to have more o-line talent in here, but it seems like there are multiple fronts on which he might not be a culture fit.

  186. 186 anon said at 12:59 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Discussed here or somewhere else. It was from 2012 season, he was captain last two years — clearly a case of a guy turning himself around.

  187. 187 PerfectTrader777 said at 1:10 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Eagles met with him before the draft. If they’re showing any interest whatsoever now it’s because they have no concerns in that regard.

  188. 188 peteike said at 1:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Alfred WIlliams on Denver radio yesterday was claiming he talked to other players in the know. Apparently he said there is more to this story that will come out but he couldnt say. Could be total BS of course, he wasnt saying he was guilty just that there may be more stories linked that dont make him look good. Maybe he connect to some questionable folks who are suspects or has other history with the victim that hadnt come out yet.

  189. 189 GEAGLE said at 4:42 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    collins was at the Pelicans game when the crime happened.. That’s as good of an alibi as any. He isn’t rich yet so it probably decreases the odds of a contract killing. of course, the kid was a week away from becoming a millionaire so who knows….. But I have also seen reports that he is expected to be officially cleared before the weekend….

    front Offices know more then what has been reported and everyone is starting to go “full court press” in terms of recruiting him, so I assume he is innocent… Then again. Nothing would surprise me these days..
    But if you paid someone to have your ex killed, I would hope, I would Hope that ATleast you aren’t stupid enough to do it the week before the draft, when you can wait 3 weeks, sigń a contract and be a millionaire…. Forget how disgusting it would be if he is guilty. He would be an EPIC MORON for the timing of it….. This story is already horrible without Collind having anything to do with it.. Really hope this kid ismt involved… I would rather him sigń with the Cowboys then to find out this kid did such a horrible thing..

  190. 190 ACViking said at 4:46 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    “He isn’t rich yet so it probably decreases the odds of a contract killing.”

    Having prosecuted five murder for hires, the motive of the killing each time was with the hope to obtain money that wouldn’t have to be shared — not protect what the contractor had.

  191. 191 Richaud Jeaffreson said at 3:56 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Millionaires have to pay a lot in child support (if he is the kid’s father).

  192. 192 ACViking said at 4:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    How ’bout a son killing a mother to get possession of the farm — when it was under contract to a developer?

    That happened.

    Killers are not the brightest bulbs sometimes.

  193. 193 robspassky said at 5:55 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I wanna go back to 15 seconds ago when I didn’t think people like that existed.

  194. 194 FairOaks said at 5:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It sounds like it was an alibi for the actual shooting, but if there was a conspiracy between many people (just putting out a hypothetical since I know little about the facts of the case) then he could still be involved even if he wasn’t at the scene. I imagine just about anyone that knew her would be a potential suspect initially, and there is probably no way to completely clear him without actually solving parts of the case and eliminating folks.

  195. 195 Insomniac said at 1:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    What Philly would provide for Collins

    A chance to start on the OL (RG)
    Some of the best OL mentors (Peters, Kelce, Lane, Mathis)
    An owner that took a gamble on Vick
    An environment and culture that will give him every chance to earn a fatter paycheck if he’s willing to work for it.
    A high powered offense that he’s never seen before

  196. 196 NinjaP said at 2:53 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Wasn’t Bennie Logan team captain his freshman year?

  197. 197 GEAGLE said at 5:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yes sir…prestigious #16…

    I’m in the process of Hacking Mathis Twitter Account, to start tweeting all these insulting taunts to chip, daring him to sign Lael Collins..

  198. 198 anon said at 1:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Jameis Winston is reportedly “pushing hard” for LSU T/G La’El Collins to join the Buccaneers.
    Better than both Donovan Smith and Ali Marpet, Collins would be a huge addition to Tampa Bay’s roster. Coach Lovie Smith also has a long track record of taking chances on players with “off-field concerns,” although we’re not sure there are even any off-field concerns with Collins. Per Yahoo’s Rand Getlin, Winston has called Collins “multiple times” in the last 24 hours.

  199. 199 Avery Greene said at 1:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Just what he needs, a criminal to guide him while he’s dealing with criminal things…

  200. 200 anon said at 1:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    probably got a lawyer hook up

  201. 201 Insomniac said at 1:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Eat crab poop Winston.

  202. 202 botto said at 1:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    what is this? the longest yard?

  203. 203 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:41 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    ROFL, Winston is a tool – he has no pull at the NFL level lol. Brady/Payton/Rogers if they call they will make a difference – punk rookie QB playing for one of the 5 worst franchises in the league should try to worry about his own situation before trying to recruit players.

  204. 204 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:44 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Stuff like this is why Winston will fail at the NFL level. He should be spending the next month in his playbook at watching film 24/7. If he is phoning anyone it should be his WR’s to set up throwing sessions.

  205. 205 anon said at 1:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    A qb is only as good as his o-line, i thought it shows leadership.

  206. 206 mksp said at 2:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Winston: “My offensive line, including two fellow rookies, sucks, come to Tampa La’el!”

  207. 207 Brian Pillion said at 3:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    This seems totally over the top.

  208. 208 Bert's Bells said at 2:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    That’s what I was thinking (except in less vivid language).

    Tampa’s brass doesn’t give a damn about what Winston thinks.

  209. 209 SteveH said at 2:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Haha Jimmy kills me sometimes… Laying the smack down on some fools over at the Philly Voice. Stats without context, they’ll sink your rhetorical ship every time.

  210. 210 Dave said at 2:55 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    yeah, he’s really kickin’ butt…soon he’ll be qualified to write for Bleacher Report:o

  211. 211 anon said at 2:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    For the Dolphins, the effort to bring Collins into the fold has taken on
    the feel of a college recruiting visit. According to FOX 8 in New
    Orleans, not only is Dolphins coach Joe Philbin traveling to see Collins, but so are former LSU teammates Jarvis Landry, Anthony Johnson and Kelvin Sheppard.

  212. 212 anon said at 2:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    This is sort of pathetic, Collins could have been had for a 7th.

  213. 213 mksp said at 2:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He wouldn’t sign the contract, then re-enter the 2016 draft.

    As a UDFA, he can’t re-enter the 2016 draft, can sign with whichever team he wants, and get to FA a year earlier.

    That’s why his agent made that statement.

  214. 214 anon said at 2:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    ahhh, so teams were forced into this non-sense.

  215. 215 mksp said at 2:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yuuup. It’s basically college recruiting.

  216. 216 Nailed it! said at 2:46 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Hey and Chip recruited pretty well at Oregon!

  217. 217 Bert's Bells said at 3:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Be interesting to see the fallout from this is in future. Is it really a one-time perfect storm of a highly rated prospect in odd circumstances or do we see repeats?

    Will this “loophole” be addressed in the next CBA?

    I’m guessing the NFLPA isn’t too happy about it, and all the teams that don’t sign him (assuming he’s legally cleared) aren’t going to be happy either.

  218. 218 FairOaks said at 3:59 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t think it’s a loophole. The guy lost millions but now at least gets to choose his team, and probably get more guaranteed money than most draft picks. Teams may have recognized the injustice of the situation (while simultaneously not willing to risk a high pick) and let him have his UDFA status instead of pulling a prick move like drafting him in the 7th. If players in the future start to pull stuff, teams can easily just start taking them in the 7th. Usually waiting a year is a massively losing proposition, because the player isn’t actually keeping in game shape, and will be drafted way lower regardless — much like a player coming off a year-long injury. It’s also the rare player which will actually have as much leverage as Collins will as a UDFA.

  219. 219 Bert's Bells said at 4:30 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It’s loophole in the sense that the parties to the agreement -the NFLPA and the NFL Owners did not intend for the situation to play out like this.

    Whether it rectifies an “injustice” or not, it’s still a scenario which was not accounted for in the contract, therefore a textbook “loophole”.

    Neither the owners nor the NFLPA want this sort of thing to be a repeatable process.

  220. 220 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    In the past 50 years, since the common draft began, how many times has a 1st Rd-level player fallen down draft boards because of a problem like Collins’s?

    As for late season injuries, how many of those players — who fall 2-3 rounds — will be ready to “put on a show” at 100% within 14 months or less?

    Hugely risky ploy. Time will tell.

  221. 221 Bert's Bells said at 5:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Definitely risky.

  222. 222 FairOaks said at 5:13 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    A loophole to me is when you have an expected situation, but someone finds a way using the existing rules to avoid the planned-for process. This rather was a very unexpected and unusual situation, which the agent found a way to salvage some of his clients’ flexibility. The one question would be if moving to the supplemental draft should be allowed in this situation — and in that case how to define “this situation” — or would that rule create actual loopholes. There are always going to be unplanned-for situations crop up from time to time. In general the draft deals with a lot — teams will judge based on all they know about a player (injury, estimated talent, off-field issues) and draft accordingly, so players do get drafted where they “deserve” to be. In Collins’ case, if he is completely innocent, that really didn’t happen.

  223. 223 Bert's Bells said at 5:21 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think we can agree that a repeat of this situation is not something the league wants.

    The question is- do they do anything about it, or simply hope it doesn’t happen again?

    Considering the NFL’s recent history and both the owners’ and NFLPA’s desire to control the players I would speculate that they’ll create a rule to address the matter.

  224. 224 FairOaks said at 5:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t think the result has been all that bad. If the league does not want the UDFA status then one team just has to take him in the 7th. The agent did not use any tactics which have not always been available — the players always have a choice to not sign with a team. The teams just let him get to UDFA in this case and all that entails. The one bone of contention might be to open up ways to get such players to the supplemental draft, which may have been an even more equitable result for the player. No matter how much leverage he uses to get the bestest-ever UDFA contract, it’s still way less than he would have gotten as a 1st-round pick.

  225. 225 mksp said at 4:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah, I was thinking about this as well.

    This particular case is unique enough that I don’t think it will necessarily be repeated, BUT:

    If I’m Ifo Ekpre’Olomu, I would have been threatening the same thing after the 5th Round.

    There are scenarios one can imagine that are less insane where this strategy makes sense.

  226. 226 RC5000 said at 4:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Collins thing happened VERY

  227. 227 ACViking said at 4:26 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    IEO gets the benefit of (i) a contract and some money, (ii) rehabbing with the NFL team, and (iii) learning a playbook.

    Remember Jack Iguana [sic]?

    Never recovered from his bum knee. Had he walked away from the Eagles, who’s to say he’d have even been drafted in Y-2?

  228. 228 mksp said at 4:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think Ifo is talented enough that he’d be able to get enough guaranteed money from the team of his choice in UDFA, and then hit FA earlier.

  229. 229 Bert's Bells said at 4:31 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yup. Any guy who gets injured at the Senior Bowl can start making this same demand.

  230. 230 ACViking said at 4:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    They have to balance the risk of not recovering against getting drafted, money in their pockets, getting help rehabbing, learning the pro-game.

  231. 231 wee2424 said at 4:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Haven’t thought about this, but you are right.

  232. 232 Media Mike said at 5:57 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It’ll be addressed.

  233. 233 wee2424 said at 4:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Wouldn’t sign. Said he would refuse if he wasn’t taken at the latest in the 3rd round. He wanted this so he could choose a team, and his first contract would expire sooner then if he were drafted.

  234. 234 FairOaks said at 5:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I doubt he would have actually not signed — I think it was more a ploy to get to UDFA. But you would have a very unhappy draft pick if you did pick him in the 7th, especially if you try to lowball with a typical 7th round offer, and it probably would like you were trying to capitalize on the situation more than teams really should. Somebody is going to get a great prospect for a pretty minimal price as it is; it didn’t need to be even less which is all drafting him would have done.

  235. 235 wee2424 said at 6:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think he may have been serious. That coupled with the situation is why he wasn’t drafted. It would have been foolish for him or his agent to sign if drafted.

    The agent is there to help maximize his contract, and that is exactly what he was doing by telling him to refuse to sign.

  236. 236 FairOaks said at 7:59 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    UDFA maximizes his contract most likely. Sitting out a year… that is tough. He’d be drafted next year but not likely on day 1 (no way a team would pick a guy high who hasn’t played in a year). So he’d risk being a 3rd-4th round pick anyways, and starting the rookie contract clock a year later, while making $0 the first year. So he might have to wait five years for bigger money instead of four as a current pick, and three as a UDFA. (Subtract one from each of those to get to extension-eligible status, which means he could get a big signing bonus before the rookie contract is over if extended early). It would be a massive gamble to actually sit out. But yeah, he might have followed through. Maybe he could play in the CFL for a year or something.

  237. 237 wee2424 said at 8:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t believe what he said about waiting to next year’s draft. Like you said it’s to risky.

    I do believe 100% about refusing to sign a contract if drafted after 4th round of this year’s draft though. From a money, contract length, and the ability to choose his team it just makes sense.

  238. 238 FairOaks said at 10:59 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Well, if drafted, refusing to sign a contract basically means he’d sit for a year. The drafting team holds your rights until the next draft, and if you are still not signed, then you are entered into that draft. It’s either that or sign. If not drafted, he’s not eligible for next year’s draft — he is limited by the rookie UDFA rules and caps but otherwise is a free agent. I still believe the threat was to maximize the chance of not getting drafted, which appears to have worked.

  239. 239 wee2424 said at 12:37 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Good point. I think he knew teams would respect his personal situation, and as human beings would grant his wish.

  240. 240 Baloophi said at 2:47 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I bet Richie Incognito could make him sign…

  241. 241 peteike said at 4:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    made me chuckle, this is not appreciated enough

  242. 242 dislikedisqus said at 2:39 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Your ranking at the end omits Coccia, who seems to me to be a legit candidate to backup Kelce.

  243. 243 Nailed it! said at 2:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Bennie .C. Logan ‏@da_king_son18 31m31 minutes ago

    Bennie .C. Logan retweeted Justin

    Thought of the day, everything I do don’t need to be publicized. Just know his name is alive and loud in Philly!

    Bennie .C. Logan added,

    Justin @Jstip10

    Wonder if @da_king_son18 is going to recruit La’el Collins to Philly like other former LSU players are doing? Do it Bennie #FlyEaglesFly

  244. 244 Nailed it! said at 2:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Ha Bennie is totally recruiting La’el

  245. 245 GEAGLE said at 4:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah Eagles have legit interest …. But I think teams have to wait TIL May 9th to be able to meet with him. Which is why players are trying to recruit, Tho it’s unclear how Rex Ryan was able to meet him face to face..

  246. 246 mksp said at 4:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  247. 247 PerfectTrader777 said at 6:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Apparently you can meet with him outside of the college campus a la Rex Ryan at applebees.

  248. 248 GEAGLE said at 6:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Thank you … What’s that another moronic NCAA rule? And if coaches can meet him outside of campus why are playërs going to recruit him?

  249. 249 wee2424 said at 4:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    According to PFT Miami sent ex LSU players to try and recruit him as well.

  250. 250 CrackSammich said at 4:13 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If there’s one thing we can agree on, it’s probably that La’el Collins’s agent earned his commission.

  251. 251 anon said at 4:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    People were giving him all kinds of flack beforehand

  252. 252 ACViking said at 4:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If teams are allowing their interest in La’el Collins to become a matter of public record, then I’d infer the BRPD has put the word out that they believe Collins is clean.

    No longer a “person of interest” and no longer “not a suspect at this time.”

    Instead, something like “we consider him a witness.”

    Now, maybe we’re not quite there. But all signs point to it.

  253. 253 ACViking said at 4:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Re: CBA Changes in light of Collins

    Bad cases made bad law.

    As someone said . . . perfect storm around an UDFA who has more negotiating leverage (if cleared) than your run-in-the-mill RFA.

    Collins is the exception that proves the CBA appropriately deals with RFA.

    (The issue about guaranteed salaries becoming a problem has nothing to do with Collins per se.)

  254. 254 OregonDucker said at 4:26 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Read today that Collins patterned his game after Peters. Anyone know if this is true? If so then Logan and Peters can be powerful recruiters.

  255. 255 Bert's Bells said at 4:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You know who’s another powerful recruit?

    Also a Philly resident.

  256. 256 ACViking said at 4:41 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Dr. J?

  257. 257 Jason said at 4:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Mayor Nutter?

  258. 258 ACViking said at 5:01 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    LSU grad?

  259. 259 Jason said at 5:05 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    No, Wharton! Maybe they could discuss second contracts.

  260. 260 ACViking said at 5:43 PM on May 5th, 2015:


    Drink a highball at night fall . . .

    Here’s a toast to dear old Penn.

  261. 261 Bert's Bells said at 5:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Is the image not showing up?

    [spoiler: it’s $100 bill with Ben Franklin on it]

  262. 262 ICDogg said at 5:01 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  263. 263 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:08 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yes! I have just spoken to my cousins who is hairdresser who’s regular customer’s uncle is a taxi driver in Batton Rouge and gave a ride to La’el’s cousin twice removed, and he said he La’el is coming to Philly because GEAGLE is his favourite web commenter in the entire internetz – and he is the high standard La’el holds all Eagles fans to be.

    FAKTZ form TRUSTED insiders!

  264. 264 GEAGLE said at 5:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You too? Smh lol flattering…..

  265. 265 Bert's Bells said at 5:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  266. 266 mksp said at 4:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Charles Robinson ‏@CharlesRobinson 5s6 seconds ago
    @CharlesRobinson: #Patriots have released CB Alfonzo Dennard, OL Tyler Ott and LB Deontae Skinner.

    Quick, D3FB – What do we know about Tyler Ott??

    Edit: Bah, long snapper.

  267. 267 ICDogg said at 4:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Isn’t he a long snapper?

  268. 268 Nailed it! said at 4:31 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Thats what I thought

  269. 269 Alistair Middlemiss said at 4:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah after burning a 5th round pick on a long snapper you are projecting that pick to start lol – no need for the vet snapper.

  270. 270 FairOaks said at 5:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The long snapper they picked probably won’t be available for a couple of years (Navy commitment). Unless Belichik knows something or is just gambling. I think Danny Aiken was their long snapper, but he’s a free agent right now.

  271. 271 D3FB said at 11:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Played at Oklahoma powerhouse high school Jenks (Tulsa) and then was the TE and LS at Harvard. Mainly a LS. Wouldn’t be opposed to bringing him in as Dorenbos is getting up there in age.

  272. 272 GEAGLE said at 4:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I’m not going to get my hopes up. But if we end up with Agholor, Rowe, Hicks and Lael COLLINS after getting one of the steals of round 6 Shepard, I’m going to be jacked up and bow down to the Marynowitz era..
    Eagles out recruiting everyone and announcing the signing of Collins would be the Ultimate “F You” to Mathis … I could see Kelly create a Twitter account after the signing is announced Just so snippy chip can tweet “DEEZ” lol…..
    LAEL next to Lane would be so bad ass,.. Barbre and Tobin can battle it out for the LG spot.. What a steal this will be for whoever gets this kid.. Hopefully the allure of playing in the chip Kelly offense with his idol Jason Peters and blocking for the reigning rushiñg champ is enough to win him over a bunch of suitors…
    Lol we would be getting a better OL then Sherff IMO. And we didnt have to pass on Leonard Williams to get him.. FIngers crossed. Let’s go Bennie!!!

  273. 273 ACViking said at 4:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Pretty sure Collins will want to go to a team that says he’ll be an OT from Day 1.

    (Suggested by another commenter; apologies for not remembering who)

  274. 274 OregonDucker said at 4:35 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Maybe Lael will make an exception if he is destined to take Peters’ job in a year or two. That would be something.

  275. 275 Bert's Bells said at 4:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Move Peters to guard. ALL IN ON COLLINZZ!!!!

  276. 276 GEAGLE said at 4:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Who knows… If it’s a money thing all that matters is if he is viewed as a Tackle by the next team that signs him when he becomes a free agent. if a team signs him to play Tackle, he probably makes more money then a team signing hm to play Guard.. So what position he plays next year DOESNT really matter. ehen he becomes an red agent he just needs to sign with a team that wants him as a tackle instead of a guard….. He doesn’t have to play Tackle for 3years to get signed as a tackle, and no one has any idea about his personal preferences between actually playing the two positions. The money part really isn’t effected by what position he will play next yeàr..
    And Long Term, I doubt he has to worry about it….Tackle is much more important and really good tackles DONT just grow on trees. If he can play Tackle or Guard at an Elite level, I doubt it would be too long before whatever team he choses moves him to Tackle…

    This is a unique situations for a team to get the steal of the draft. Whoever he choses draft class will instantly look more sexy when you add his name to it

  277. 277 ACViking said at 4:53 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    OD . . .

    You hearing things out there?!?!??!

  278. 278 GEAGLE said at 4:54 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He would probably Take Lanes spot…. Two years from now, I don’t expect anyone to have a better LT then Bane Johnson… Lael collins is a HECKUVA prospect, but he ismt BANE… Unless we get a freak like Greg Robinson from the Rams, I doubt anyone will ever challenge Lane for our LT of the future spot….. Lael would have to settle fo RT,.

  279. 279 mksp said at 4:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    All I can say with certainty, is that I will forever judge the strength of La’el Collins’ character on which team he decides to sign with.

    Eagles = Great character

    Every other team = Horrendous character

    In all seriousness, Philly would be a great situation for him.

    Edit: I should also add that the bizzarro Iggles Blitz for every other NFL team is having this exact same conversation right now.

  280. 280 PerfectTrader777 said at 6:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If X doesn’t sign with team Z, he’s an idiot. If team Z signs Y, it’s a great signing.

  281. 281 Baloophi said at 6:30 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  282. 282 ICDogg said at 4:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    On the other hand he has to aniticipate what his RFA situation will be 3 years from now and try to maximize his value that way.

  283. 283 ACViking said at 4:41 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    By playing OT?

    Isn’t that the best way?

  284. 284 ICDogg said at 4:44 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yes, but only if the rest of the line is good. You don’t want to be in the position where you are expected to be the savior in an unsalvageable situation.

  285. 285 peteike said at 4:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    good point, can see why both would be attractive. Guess if you believe in yourself to be rock solid at the next level then you want to jump right in at tackle. Being a projected top 10 will do that. Having time to learn in a good system to be a solid starter later is a bit more guaranteed in some ways.

  286. 286 ICDogg said at 4:59 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He has to be thinking, what is the best situation where he can shine.

  287. 287 ACViking said at 4:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Just can’t see Collins, if signed, agreeing to be an OG.

    He’s gonna be one angry, motivated dude if he gets past all this.

  288. 288 ICDogg said at 4:54 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It seems like it would be a tough sell.

  289. 289 Insomniac said at 4:54 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He played LG in college during his sophomore year. He just might not have the feet to play OT in a zone scheme.

  290. 290 GEAGLE said at 5:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Baseless statement

  291. 291 RC5000 said at 4:42 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It is a factor although no good coach hands jobs especially to rookies. He should also want a situation most conducive to his success. Hey look at our backs, sports science, offense, what we’re building,etc. Doesn’t mean we’re the best situation.

  292. 292 GEAGLE said at 5:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t make that assumption… All he needs to care about is when this rookie contract expires someone wanting to sign him as a starting Tackle… What position he plays next year really doesn’t matter in terms of whether or Not someone will sign him to be their tackle 4 years from now..

  293. 293 PerfectTrader777 said at 6:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    That, and there are 32 teams in the league. Eagles have better than 1/32 chance but it’s still pretty small.

  294. 294 ACViking said at 4:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If Collins hadn’t been hit with this tsunami (assuming innocence) . . .

    where do you think he’d have gone in Rd 1?

  295. 295 mksp said at 4:55 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think he’s probably a better prospect that DJ Humphries. So to AZ? Or maybe MIA takes him instead of Parker.

  296. 296 Media Mike said at 5:53 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s significantly better than Cam Irving and Erik Flowers as well.

  297. 297 Insomniac said at 5:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t really buy Chip’s comment about him not being on our board. I think we would have traded back and someone else would have taken Collins at 20.

  298. 298 mksp said at 5:04 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think that comment was post police thing.

  299. 299 Insomniac said at 5:05 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It could be but this is Chip we’re talking about here so none of fans really know.

  300. 300 OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip said at 5:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    It was. Quoth Kelly:

    “We took him off…..

    “It wasn’t a hard decision, no. No, it was just ‑‑ really, I don’t think we should be talking about draft picks. I think two people have lost their lives, and I think that’s a little bit more important than that. We weren’t really thinking about the draft at that point in time with him.”

    Of course he could be lying, but given they showed interest before and are apparently showing interest again now, doesn’t seem likely.

  301. 301 Baloophi said at 6:19 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I believe – since Collins is a Louisiana native – the proper natural disaster metaphor should be “hurricane” not “tsunami.”

  302. 302 ACViking said at 6:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    how do spell “Baloophi” in NOLA?


    (I have tears rolling down my cheeks)

  303. 303 Baloophi said at 6:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  304. 304 ACViking said at 6:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    now i’m shaking

  305. 305 Baloophi said at 6:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Again, “hurricane” not “earthquake.”

  306. 306 ACViking said at 6:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    ahhhhh . . . you’re killing me

  307. 307 Baloophi said at 6:25 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Unfortunately, “homicide” is a little too on-the-nose here…

  308. 308 GEAGLE said at 5:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    McShay predicts Nelson Agholor wins Rookie of the year.
    I have Agholor and Amari Cooper going at it for the most rookie receptions,and I can see Agholor beat him…. But Cooper probably scores more TD’s then him.

    Maclin this past year was way,tougher then we thought, but no doubts Agholor likes the physicality more then Maclin… I assume Agholor will Go on pass MACLIN on the eagle history books because if Nelson and Jeremy are similar talents, I assume the one who spends more years in the Chip offense will put up the more impressive numbers,.. MACLIN had like 5 years with Andy and 1 with Chip… Give Agholor 6 years with Chip and he probably destroys Maclins numbers..

    The ONLY Players I would have considered over Agholor at 20: Bud Dupree, Shane Ray, and Byron Jones..
    Thrilled to have Agholor but I can’t help wonder how pretty we would be sitting right now had we drafted Byron Jones AND Rowe…those two with Malcolm Jenkins and Byron Maxwell is a crazy secondary…
    Drafting Byron Jones would have allowed us to let Rowe focus on Safety,. Rowe missed a few tackles playing safety trying to blow dudes up, but he is an elite smart Talemt and our defensive coaches have proven to fix tackling issues.. Take care of Rowe’s tackling. And I sincerely believe he could be the best Safety to enter the NFL in YEARS…shore up his Tackling and I would rather have him at Safety instead of Reid, Vaccaro, Cyprien, Clinton Dix, Lamdon Collins, Mark Barron, Damarious Randall…. I’d take this kid at safety over every last one of those highly rated safeties… I also trust a rokie Safety much more then I trust rookie Corners…. I DESPISE ROOKIE Corners about as much as I despise Rooke QBs… But I have to admit, I really think both Byron Jones and Rowe are special kids who will be able to handle starting at either position from day 1… But even if Rowe,can actually handle being an outside Corner as a rookie, I give better odds to Nolan Carrol/Walter Thurmand battle to provide a better outside Corner for next year then a Wolff/Watkins battle will provide a safety…..If jaylen Watkins, Earl Wolff, Ed Reynolds DONT step up, put a whooping on their competitors and grab the starting safety spot by the throat, I could see Chip deciding to move Rowe to Safery this year…. But finding an outside corner is supposed to be harder then finding a safety, so hopefully a quality safety emerges sooner or later so we can just leave Rowe at CB and be set with two big. Long, athletic outside Corners,,

  309. 309 GEAGLE said at 5:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Who the hell would have ever thought that the ONLY time this franchise ONLY took one offensive player in the draft in the past 60 years would come from the offensive mad scientist Chip Kelly. And hs first draft as GM?.. 30 years from now when you want to hit a fan with eagle trivia question, I doubt anyone will ever guess Chip Kelly…
    Also find it interesting that Kiko,Alonso claims he likes that he already knows the deffense and that he just needs to learn new terminology compared to Ducks terminology.. Too often Chip has been painted as this offensive coach who doesn’t care about defense, but its crazy talk, and it seems chip is very specific about his defense, like he is with his offense.. our Multi Front, base 3/4 defense according to Kiko is what he played in at Oregon, and Azzinaro is not just a normal defensive line coach, he is like the assisted coach who brought chips oregon defense here… notice how our Defensve Coordinator ISNT running HIS DEFENSE? Billy Davis is well versed in a base 3/4.. He knows this defense as well as anyone after his ties with the steelers, but any time Billy Davis was a DC with freedom to run whatever he wanted he chose to implement a 4-3 Under… I am a big fan of 4-3Under, but I have to admit I’m 1000% sold on our multi front Defense. I just love having base,3-4 two gap on first and second down against the run, and on 3rd down we often switch back to the Historic Philadelphia defense 4 man line to go hunting for QBs… Im really happy with the defense from the scheme to the direction the roster is headed

    It’s a SERIOUS mistake to paint chip Kelly as this Mike Martz offensive genius HC who is all offense and this he will win NFL games 53-50…. This man cares very much about Defense.., Heck, Chip is a FREAK for Special teams. You can’t find a head coach who puts more emphasis in special teams then Chip….and if a HC cares THAT much about Special Teams, it’s foolish to act like he doesn’t care about defense….

    from GM, to hiring the Personel department, changing our trainers/sports medicine department, changing practice styles. Implementing offensive. Defensive schemes…. THS is the chip Kelly show…
    this may even be MORE of the Chip show, then it ever even was the ANDY show….

  310. 310 Nailed it! said at 5:45 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I do not know who you are yelling this too, but it was safe to say he cares about the whole football team based on how he stressed special teams from the day he arrived. And then when he explained the spending on offense and defense was too wide a gap this past year so he has already started the transition to a more balanced approach.

    But make no mistake the offense is his baby. Was in Oregon and will remain that way here.

  311. 311 GEAGLE said at 5:45 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  312. 312 A_T_G said at 5:46 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yep. You nailed it!

  313. 313 Nailed it! said at 5:49 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Boo Ya!

  314. 314 PerfectTrader777 said at 6:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    When Chip was still coaching Oregon, a reporter asked him what he would do if he was an NFL coach and the first thing he said was to build a strong defense. With that said, he knows his defense is going to be on the field a lot so he wants to take some chances and try to turn the ball over. The less time the defense is on the field, the more time his offense is on the field. This is why the Eagles had a high scoring fantasy defense last year (aside from ST scoring too).

  315. 315 GEAGLE said at 6:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Excited for how improved the defense should be at getting off the field on 3rd down which is really what kept us from being a top Defense.. Our Front 7 is stronger then ever with Kiko and a bunch of young animals being a year older. And we will be drastically better in coverage,, not only will we be better in coverage on 3rd down, but we should be more Discaplined with eliminating the boneheaded 3rd down penalties we gave away last year bailing teams out after we actually got the stop.
    I also think the offense will be less quick strike score in one minute or punt in a minute and be more methodical moving the chains with our down hill run game. keep churning out first downs, chip says he doesn’t care about time of possesion on Offense, but I assume our new style of run game and a QB that we need to protect will lead to drastic improvement in time of possession from past years, so whether or not chip cares about it, the style of our offense should give us the best time of possesion numbers we had since chip arrived, so the Offense should help the defense more and put it in less bad positions then it did last year when it would go 3 and out in 30 seconds.. So not only should next years offense help the defense more in past years, but the Defense is more equpped then ever to help its self,.. Offense improves its time of possession numbers while the defense drastically improves its ability to get off the field on 3rd down along with cutting down bail out penalties.. With our #1 Ratec Special Teams which should be even better then last year should lead to WHATS easily the best Chip Kelly Eagle team we have had.
    We lost some really good players, trent Cole, Herremans, Desean, Shady, Mackin, FOles…. Yet I 100% belíeve we are much better then either of the past two seasons….. Of course bad health can quickly change that, but I do believe that in one offseason, Marynowitz and Chip did a better job then Howie did of building the roster the past two seasons. And that’s a very good sigń for us

  316. 316 anon said at 6:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Agree with this. I don’t think we’ll be more methoical in moving the football, i think we’ll just be better on second down and goal line. Assuming Sammy B is a better decision maker is see more explosive plays than last year.

    Interesting i thought CK chose the eagles b/c of the offensive weapons that we had already on he team but it’s not hard to like the moves he’s making to address weaknesses on the team. And it makes the jerseys of my favorite players way cheaper.

  317. 317 GEAGLE said at 7:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah but I expect the run game to change dramatically. The inside and outside zones will still be there, but stylistically you can bet the run game and some of the blocking will change now that we have big, downhill backs instead of shady who’s running style is night and day compared to Demarco…

    I still expect to see Plenty of big plays, but I also think we will probably beat out the first down totals of past seasons by a big margin… I don’t expect as many 3 and outs with Demarco in the backfield He doesn’t allow himself to lose yards and he is powerful crafty veteran who will often gain two yards just by falling fprward… Shady was always looking for the big play, where as Demarco will have a different mentality, of where he will just let the big play come to him, and just keep “chipping away” at defenses with 3yard runs…

    I expect next years Chip offense to be the best it has been under chip in.
    1) Time of possesion
    2) First downs
    3) Less 3 and outs then the first two years..
    defense will be top 5 against the run and drastically improve on 3rd down… 3rd down defense is really the biggest imprpvement we needed to make and I think we improved probably more then any franchise in coverage this summer, and the only thing we really lost was Trent Coles pass rush, and it’s not what it once was,. Trent was getting sacks but often off of schemes like twist, stunts and he also was in the right place at the right time a few of those sacks when Cox or Curry basically did all the work chasing QBs into Cole
    Trent is ELITE at setting the run, but I trust BG just FIne willing in against the run….

    Stay healthy and this should easily be our best team so far under chip

  318. 318 PerfectTrader777 said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think CK chose the eagles because they gave him free reign

  319. 319 Avery Greene said at 8:10 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I hope to be better on 1st down too. I’d like to see 2 and 5 or 6 instead of 2nd and 10 or 12. I can’t wait for football season.

  320. 320 mksp said at 1:21 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Look at you!


  321. 321 wee2424 said at 6:25 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    According to BR we are one of 7 teams perusing Collins. Don’t know how accurate that is, but I figured there would be more then 7 teams.

  322. 322 Baloophi said at 6:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    RE: the La’el Collins quagmire – is there any chance Robert Durst was in Baton Rouge the night of the crime?

  323. 323 GEAGLE said at 6:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Collins shouldn’t even waste his time with the recruiting… If he is innocent, he is a legit first round OL talent from the SEC who can be had for 400k for the next 3 years, he might as well just call whoever he wants to play for … Who im their right mind will turn down the chance to sigń him for chump change if he is innocent of everything?..
    might as well figure out what your dream situatuon is:
    division competition
    Quality of the roster
    Starting spot awaiting him
    Might as well just figure out where you want to play and have your agent call that team, because there isn’t much to negotiate and no one in their right mind would turn him down at 400k per year..

  324. 324 ACViking said at 6:48 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If you’re his agent, what’s your list?

    Where would cities like PHI or NYC be?

    Or Miami and NOLA?

    Versus places like ATL and JAX?

  325. 325 Baloophi said at 6:51 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Just throwing this out there, but I wonder if Chip trading McCoy, not anteing-up for Maclin (not that I disagree with it), rumors about contract-year players like Kendricks and Boykin have an impact. As in, if you’re his agent, aren’t you trying to put him in a place that re-negotiate contracts frequently in favor of the player?

  326. 326 laeagle said at 6:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Barwin is a good counter-example.

  327. 327 Baloophi said at 6:52 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  328. 328 laeagle said at 6:53 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Who, me or Barwin?

  329. 329 Baloophi said at 6:56 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Only one of you spilled salsa on the helmet phone…

  330. 330 laeagle said at 6:58 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  331. 331 Baloophi said at 7:00 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s pretty clumsy for an athlete…

  332. 332 anon said at 6:53 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Barwin BARELY got more $$, i’d say eagles is a place where, as a skill position player, you’ll put up gaudy stats, you’ll be in playoffs,etc. and then you can get pizzaid after that. It’s the right type of organization, just like playing w/ the pats.

  333. 333 Avery Greene said at 8:01 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Cooper is an example too, and he didn’t deserve his money. Meco and Graham got contracts. A lot of the people he seems to be turning over, but I think he keeps the players he wants.

  334. 334 anon said at 8:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Meco / Graham are on team friendly deals i would say. The only guys getting pizaid are Bradford, Maxwell and Murray, to my eye — none of whom are home grown. We’ll see what happens with cox, kendricks, but it appears to me a number of home grown picks could get walking papers

  335. 335 Kelce's Beard said at 9:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    kelce got paid well

  336. 336 Insomniac said at 7:06 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    A place far away from whoever murdered his ex-gf?

  337. 337 Anders said at 2:15 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    He should go for the team with greatest chance to start at LT to maximize his chance for an early pay out.

    If he becomes a great LT in 2 years, he will earn more money than Lane Johnson over the first 4 years of a contract

  338. 338 Baloophi said at 7:00 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    La’el Collins’ agent is Deryk Gilmore, who played at Penn State and served as the director of recruiting for… Oregon. (pre-Kelly)

  339. 339 botto said at 7:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    hey now

  340. 340 RC5000 said at 7:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Also note :
    Tannenbaum was hired by Priority Sports and Entertainment, where he oversaw the coaching, broadcasting and front-office for the New York branch. Some notable clients Tannenbaum represented were: Dan Quinn, Steve Kerr, Phil Savage, and Jack Arute. Tannenbaum resigned from Priority Sports in early 2015 to accept a position with the Miami Dolphins.

    Tannenbaum was hired by the Dolphins to be the Executive Vice President of Football Operations, starting February 1, 2015. He was as a consultant for the team during the 2014 NFL season.

    From Wiki

  341. 341 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    No one wants to sign into that awful organisation that the Dolphins are, they are a toxic team of merc’s. Only reason why La’el Collins signs there is for tax reasons – and if he is choosing a team while on a bargain rookie contract for that reason rather than where he can succeed the most and develop into the most he can do he is a fool.

  342. 342 Baloophi said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    “toxic team of mercs” – love it.

  343. 343 GermanEagle said at 7:09 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Wouldn’t all of you feel a little bit better if the Eagles signed La’ell Collins and if Evan Mathis wasn’t such a dick? I mean, those two are big IFs but I’m just sayin’…

  344. 344 GermanEagle said at 7:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    A starting O Line of

    Peters – Mathis – Kelce – Collins – Johnson

    Would make the Eagles SB contenders.

  345. 345 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think Mathis comes to camp and plays – no one is trading, eagles aint cutting him, and holding out is stupid in the CBA – Mathis isn’t the age to give away cash in a contract struggle.

    IF we can sign collins and situation is clear off the field…. we have a hell of a starting OL – still need depth in 2016 but if they can stay fit…. and Bradford stays healthy and fulfil 60% of his potential we have a hell of a roster… and an even better one in 2016.

  346. 346 botto said at 7:14 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Collins has bow been labeled a person of interest…
    to the eagles.! ha

    but seriously folks, this guy will go for the money and the starting opportunity, we just couldn’t get this lucky..

  347. 347 Baloophi said at 7:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    This… isn’t bad.

  348. 348 Greg Richards said at 7:15 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Collins will end up with MIA. They have as much need as any team with clear openings at LG and RG. Collins’ contract will be relatively low which will make the attraction of no state income tax even more relevant. Collins is repped by Priority Sports which is the company that Dolphins’ Executive VP of Football Operations Mike Tannenbaum previously worked for.

  349. 349 GermanEagle said at 7:16 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    What’s the maximum base salary you can hand out to UDFAs?

  350. 350 Greg Richards said at 7:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Not sure. There’s a limit on the total bonuses a team can pay UDFAs but I don’t think their cap figure has to fit within the team’s rookie pool.

  351. 351 GermanEagle said at 7:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  352. 352 ACViking said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:


    Don’t you get it?

    Are you dense?

  353. 353 GermanEagle said at 7:19 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yes. Lol.

  354. 354 ACViking said at 7:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The rookie minimum (i assume that’s what was suppose to be written).

    plus a modest signing bonus.

    the game is in guaranteeing the yearly salaries, apparently.

  355. 355 GermanEagle said at 7:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    What’s the rookie min?

  356. 356 ACViking said at 7:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    don’t know.

    somewhere in the $250K neighborhood? more than that maybe

  357. 357 GermanEagle said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You. Should. Know. Mr. Lawyer.

  358. 358 ACViking said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  359. 359 GermanEagle said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  360. 360 GermanEagle said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  361. 361 GermanEagle said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  362. 362 GermanEagle said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  363. 363 GermanEagle said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  364. 364 GermanEagle said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  365. 365 GermanEagle said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  366. 366 GermanEagle said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  367. 367 bill said at 8:19 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Niemand weiss.

  368. 368 laeagle said at 7:26 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  369. 369 Baloophi said at 7:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The bellhop from Munich has gesprochen!

  370. 370 ACViking said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    $435K !!!

  371. 371 GermanEagle said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  372. 372 ACViking said at 7:25 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Nice work!

  373. 373 ACViking said at 7:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    repeat . . . $435K

  374. 374 anon said at 7:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    yeah no doubt he’s looking for a fully guaranteed deal another benefit of being undrafted.

  375. 375 ACViking said at 7:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    the Bamiro treatment

    now that contract he had makes much more sense

  376. 376 Baloophi said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:


  377. 377 ACViking said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    you’re breakin’ me up

  378. 378 Baloophi said at 7:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Per below, Collins’ actual agent is Deryk Gilmore, who attended Penn State and worked as the Director of Recruiting for Oregon. He also reps D.J. Fluker so I would assume he’s familiar with Stoutland…

  379. 379 oreofestar said at 9:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    so it’s official? 😛

  380. 380 ACViking said at 7:17 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I hear Texas has no state income tax — and the property is way cheaper than Miami too

  381. 381 botto said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    but its texas

  382. 382 GermanEagle said at 7:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    But he could share a room with Chippah!

  383. 383 ACViking said at 7:21 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Freddie Freeman’s also rep’d by Priority Sports.

  384. 384 GermanEagle said at 7:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    And he’s got the best hands.

  385. 385 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:26 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    All you have to do is stick the Jonathan Martin report in his parents hands and persuade them to read all of it and they will make another choice. Tax considerations on the amount of money on a UDFA deal is idiotic. The most important thing is that you go to a team where you can succeed and develop for your 2nd contract – something Miami has consistently failed at.

    The other side is you want to join a team that is very solid and trustworthy – since he will be wanting a new contract after 2 years, and if a team says come in and start and we will look after you that will be the most persuasive thing… but need a stable front office situation for that, with trustworthy teams.

    Teams that i think are in the running of the 7 linked:

    Saints – home town
    Ravens – Most solid organisation in the NFL with excellent player reputation, if Ozzie says he will reward you year 3 you will trust that more than most teams.
    Eagles – showed huge interest pre draft, and has a scheme and situation where he can succeed early. Will massively depend if he wants to buy in to sports science and if he is happy to start at guard. (But coming in and starting at RG in our line is about the best situation in the NFL for a rookie – and looking at Dallas last year shows what that did for Martin)

  386. 386 Greg Richards said at 7:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I hope you’re right. I’d love him to sign with the Eagles.

  387. 387 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If i was his agent i would look at the following teams:
    Saints, Ravens, Seahawks, Packers,Steelers, Eagles, Giants and not much else. Pats cant touch him post Hernandez, Dallas is too stacked, Denver/Indy have unclear futures.

    I think Eagles have a 10% chance…. and would need someone in his inner circle to campaign for us – as we can offer a good pitch.

  388. 388 Greg Richards said at 7:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Nah, give him the standard rookie contract under the cap and then another few mil under the table.

  389. 389 ACViking said at 7:35 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Maybe Comcast “hires” LC as a spokesman for $2M/year?

  390. 390 Greg Richards said at 7:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If the NFL lets Russell Wilson star in Microsoft(owned by Seahawks owner Pual Allen) Surface commercials, they shouldn’t have any problem with that.

  391. 391 ACViking said at 7:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Yeah, that was pretty much B.S.

  392. 392 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:35 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    You would be foolish to do that…. If you get caught the NFL will drop the hammer down…. but promise him an extension in 2 years and have some third party set up a loan facility of several million

  393. 393 Baloophi said at 7:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Sounds like a job for Smolenski!

  394. 394 ACViking said at 7:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    tough name for that sentence.

    doesn’t work well at all.

    too many notes.

  395. 395 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Job for Lurie – set up a film deal with him getting paid several million to sign over the rights for this ‘tragic’ story. Allows you to write the history as well by casting him as the victim and cleaning his persona.

  396. 396 Baloophi said at 7:44 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Casting thought:

    Les Miles……..Gene Hackman

  397. 397 Baloophi said at 7:46 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Roger Goodell…….Thomas Haden Church

  398. 398 Baloophi said at 8:00 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Baton Rouge Homicide Detectives…..Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson (Lurie’s going to make his money)

  399. 399 Greg Richards said at 7:36 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Of course, “if you get caught”. Don’t get caught! Cheat to win!

  400. 400 Baloophi said at 7:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    They don’t strip you of a Super Bowl if you get caught…

  401. 401 ACViking said at 7:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.

  402. 402 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Ha someone always talks… Some hanger on will find out and when he gets cut off or feels like he is not getting looked after will rat them out. Not worth the risk. L Collins is a nice player – but he is not some superstar prospect to risk everything for.

  403. 403 Baloophi said at 7:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Howie. Roseman.

  404. 404 Greg Richards said at 7:38 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Sometimes, you have to pay the witness off.

  405. 405 ACViking said at 7:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Ravens . . . solid choice.

    Who’s their OTs?

  406. 406 D3FB said at 11:05 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    The second that happens I’m all about calling Miami about Billy Turner. Or to a slightly lesser extent Dallas Thomas.

  407. 407 Baloophi said at 7:25 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    If you’re Collins and you believe you’re a top-notch OT, don’t you go to the team where you have the best chance to play that position as soon as possible? Inasmuch as you’re not getting the compensation you feel you deserve for at least the first three years and you’re obviously motivated by money (remember the “don’t draft me after day 2” stuff?) wouldn’t you make a play for the position that would give you the biggest payday three years from now? i.e. OT not OG? I mention this because “at best” he’d start at OG here in year 1.

  408. 408 ACViking said at 7:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He wants to get on the field, for sure.

    The more he plays, the bigger his performance-based bonus.

  409. 409 Insomniac said at 7:28 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Why does it make sense that Lane is the future LT when he’s playing RT right now? It’s all about development and playng.

  410. 410 Baloophi said at 7:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    But Lane was taken at #4 overall and wasn’t given the opportunity to choose his team.

  411. 411 ACViking said at 7:30 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He wanted Miami.

    No state incomes taxes.

    No snow on South Beach

  412. 412 Baloophi said at 7:31 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Better access to performance enhancing drugs…

  413. 413 ACViking said at 7:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    A-Rod’s winter place

  414. 414 Greg Richards said at 7:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I don’t get it. What’s the attraction to more money, more sun, and more women walking around in bikinis?

  415. 415 ACViking said at 7:32 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    No, no, no.

    There are no bikinis on South Beach.

    Just bottoms.

  416. 416 ACViking said at 7:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Did Barwin really spill salsa on the Helmet Phone?

  417. 417 Baloophi said at 7:34 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He batted down a nacho pass.

  418. 418 HawaiianEagle said at 8:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Who would pass on a nacho?

  419. 419 Alistair Middlemiss said at 8:04 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Depends on the advice he is given, and how he views himself. I think in the NFL you are better to be great than good (from a $$ perspective), and while i think he can be a good RT, i think he can be a great RG (especially initially).

    His aim is to get at least a 1st round tender in 2018, and ideally a new contract as soon as 2017, and the best way to achieve that is to be great not good. Joining a vet line with 4 very good starters is a very good situation to go into to succeed early, rather than something like the the Buc’s where they have crap and rookies starting everywhere.

    I think the Eagles can make a good pitch, but so much will depend on what his goals and focus’s are – and probably the vibes he got with teams in the pre draft process. We are competing with at least 25 teams – and while 15 should be struck off the list realistically immediately we still have a slim chance of him signing for us.

  420. 420 Baloophi said at 8:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    All of this stands to reason. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the “I refuse to sign a contract if you draft me after round 3” of it all. As in, I think you could make the case that he feels he’s been cheated out of being a 1st round OT who would start right away (whether that’s true or not), and might easily be seduced by a coach promising to play him at RT tomorrow.

  421. 421 Alistair Middlemiss said at 8:25 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I think he feels robbed of a $5mil signing bonus not his ability to start at RT. Think most teams that were going to draft him in the mid to late 1st (where he was slotted) looked at him as a guard initially.

    But if he wants to play RT this year he will sign for a team where he can. Its hard to know his priorities.

  422. 422 Baloophi said at 8:27 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Not sure where to file this nugget re: La’el, but I believe Superman’s father was named Jor-El. Not too far off…

  423. 423 ICDogg said at 10:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    And Superman’s name on Krypton was Kal-El. Even closer?

  424. 424 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 10:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    La son of El?

  425. 425 Avery Greene said at 10:33 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Isn’t La’el the same as saying The’the?

  426. 426 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 11:29 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lol I have no idea…. My Kryptonian is limited

  427. 427 BobSmith77 said at 11:33 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I wonder if anyone in the US either has the first name Jor-El or not? I figure there are at least a few people named Kal-El running around.

    Just can’t think there is anybody with the name ‘Mister Mxyzptlk.’

  428. 428 ICDogg said at 11:40 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    But there must be at least one Kltpzyxm… oops DAMMIT!

  429. 429 EagleNebula said at 12:19 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Nick Cage’s son is Kal-El

  430. 430 Patrick Pauling said at 8:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    QB Pryor got released by the Chiefs, think we should have any interest?

  431. 431 anon said at 8:50 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    pryor is done

  432. 432 A_T_G said at 8:55 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He was done prior to joining the Chiefs.

  433. 433 Patrick Pauling said at 8:58 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    you mean pryor to joining the chiefs?

  434. 434 botto said at 9:06 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    no. pryor to that

  435. 435 GEAGLE said at 9:30 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Needs to permanently switch positions… More talent then Tebow ever had

  436. 436 RC5000 said at 9:02 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    we worked him out long ago so I doubt there’s interest right now

  437. 437 GEAGLE said at 8:53 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I would love to take am flier on him, but not as a QB… Strictly as trying to convert him to WR and maybe ST

  438. 438 oreofestar said at 9:16 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Would love it if La’el ended up here but I’m not too optimistic

  439. 439 EagleNebula said at 12:16 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m sorry but given chips comments…

  440. 440 Greg Richards said at 7:09 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Didn’t, in that movie, “it happened” anyway

  441. 441 sonofdman said at 9:52 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    No, I don’t believe anyone made “Fetch” happen.

    I’m not sure if I should be ashamed that I known exactly what the “it” in that scene refers to.

  442. 442 GEAGLE said at 9:29 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Two players I wish we would sign to take a look at in camp:
    1) Cheifa waived Terrell Pryor., forget the Momahs and all the high upside projects, this is an athlete with a heckuva size/speed/athleticism combo that we should try to develop as a WR. Such a talent, love to give him a camp look and get a look at what his growth rate looks like over the summer…unlike Tebow, he gives us a camp arm who is also willing to play any position we ask of him…
    2) Raiders waived/failed medical TE Nick Kasa…he is going to have to get healthy and prove that he is healthy, but once that happens I would love to bring him in for a closer look.. Tall athletic kid. With James Casey gone and Celek getting long in the tooth, this is a raw talent I would like to see us give a look to..

  443. 443 SteveH said at 10:12 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Can someone summarize for me all this “Evan Mathis is a dick” talk I’m hearing all of a sudden? In a lot of ways I’m out of the loop here so if someone could clue me in to what he’s been doing to irk everyone that would be swell.

  444. 444 HawaiianEagle said at 10:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Well I believe it boils down to a few things…

    A. Evan looking for more $.
    B. Chip said go ahead and look.
    C. Evan gets NO nibbles and assume he remains less than pleased as a result.
    D. Eagles mum…
    E. Evan takes to social media to vent steam.
    F. Eagles don’t care.

    Evan frustrated.

  445. 445 SteveH said at 10:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Well yeah I gathered the broad strokes but I’m curious what are the specific things that he has been doing to become king asshole in Eagleland lately.

  446. 446 anon said at 10:37 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    When trade rumors first happened he took to twitter with sad faces and stuff like that — making most people think he was getting traded against his will just b/c he was looking for more money, the reality is that he and his agent had requested the right to look.

    Additionally, he’s gone through this same exercised for 2 straight years, enough is enough already.

    So it’s not that he’s a dick per se, just that a lot of fans like him a lot and i feel like he wasn’t totally honest with the fans regarding the whole situation. He didn’t kill anyone.

  447. 447 FairOaks said at 11:19 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Did he delete some tweets or something? I pretty much just remember the “Boring day on twitter” when the first trade rumors hit, and the “Deez” response to Chip Kelly’s latest statement which apparently you need to be a Dr. Dre fan to fully get. I’m not very tuned in to it, but I haven’t heard about anything specific that was all that bad or misleading (just never mentioning that the trade rumors came from Rosenhaus). Obviously Kelly is ticked off at something — I’m sure Kelly and Rosenhaus don’t mix well — but I haven’t seen any clear-cut stuff either which would point to exactly why.

  448. 448 wee2424 said at 10:55 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Check Bleacher Report.

  449. 449 BobSmith77 said at 11:18 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Why do you even bother wasting time reading their Eagles’ coverage?

  450. 450 wee2424 said at 12:13 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I was messing with him because of the same reaction you gave. And because for some reason people get upset about what other people read.

    Most importantly I read it because it constantly sends me updates on my smartphone before ESPN does and before it’s posted on alot of these sites with MB. So I find things out before most people do. Therefore I like to read it. Sort of a good reason isn’t it?

    Also because at times it offers different opinions and viewpoints. Sometimes it’s better to find the truth when you listen to all points of view. Makes you less narrow minded and at times gives you the ability to deduce the right answer which is between multiple reporting organizations.

    Why do you think what you read is more important and better then what I choose at times? What do you read that I don’t that is so much better?

    Funny thing is ALOT of their Eagles draft coverage was more on point then alot of these national experts or even the Eagles ones.

    They also went alot deeper in the draft process and listed the top 120 or so prospects in each position. Also going into detail analysis regarding them. Information you are completely unaware of. They were really on the dot for the most part. When all of Eagles nation was whining right away regarding the Hicks pick they were the first ones to break the move and him down. They did it much quicker then everywhere else too, and went deeper.

    Stop judging what others do because what you do isn’t always right.

  451. 451 SteveH said at 2:25 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Did you hear that BobSmith? Wee has information you are completely unaware of. You really should start seeing things from all sides like he does.

    I consider myself messed with.

  452. 452 wee2424 said at 9:11 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Thanks for relaying the message.

  453. 453 wee2424 said at 9:20 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    See now that’s just being a little ignorant. I was just joking around with you, you of course had to take it in a non friendly way. Someone asked me why I read it, I give a really good answer as to why I do, and in turn you can’t say anything remotely intelligent back.

  454. 454 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:13 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    FWIW, I thought your post was cute, weeman.

  455. 455 wee2424 said at 11:02 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Thanks, I don’t know if I should take that as a compliment or not, but thank you.

  456. 456 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:22 PM on May 5th, 2015:

  457. 457 BobSmith77 said at 11:23 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Because he wants a trade to a new team and the possibility of getting a new deal which pisses off a bunch of Eagles’ fans. Also the same morons who will argue ‘Mathis signed a contract and he should honor it.’

    Nevermind that it is non-guaranteed deal and the Eagles (as would any team) dumps veterans like Mathis without a 2nd thought if they have a viable alternative or just want the cap space.

    I have no problem with Mathis wanting to possibility get a new deal since he didn’t make a ton of money earlier in his career & has overplayed his deal the last few years.

    Probably would be smarter to not voice his frustrations via social media but that makes him a dick? No it makes him a guy who is self-interested and trying to cash in because his clock shortly expires.

  458. 458 EagleNebula said at 12:13 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    But voicing his frustration in social media is the problem. Of course he wants more money, and no one faults him for that. And wanting more money does not make him a dick.

    To play devils advocate, the eagles granted him the opportunity to seek a trade to see if he could get more money. No team bit. So you can make the argument that he should accept his fate. If I take a job and agree to a salary, I can ask for a raise to match my performance but will likely get rejected or only receive a modest increase. To get a larger raise I could always look to switch positions/companies. But if no one wants to hire me I can’t hold it against my current employer. So yes, his salary isn’t guaranteed (no company I ever worked for guaranteed my salary and I had friends who were fired and no longer received compensation), and you could argue he outperformed his contract. But the eagles gave him the opportunity to search for a team that may give him the compensation he believes he is worth. I think that is fair.

  459. 459 BobSmith77 said at 12:29 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    No idea if another team even offered a deal or not or what the Eagles’ starting position was in a potential trade.

    It is possible no team made an offer but why would the Eagles publicly disclose that they did and they simply couldn’t come to terms?

    Yeah Mathis would be better served to not publicly air his frustration but I still don’t see that ‘making him a dick.’

    I guess the NFL is the one sport where I almost always side with the players in regards to contract issues. They have short careers with non-guaranteed deals and almost always have some degree of serious injuries usually later in life if their career is long enough.

  460. 460 A_T_G said at 5:59 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Kelly just said in a PC that Evan has been looking for two years and no one made an offer. If that was untrue, don’t you think Evan would have responded on social media with the truth, rather than with “Deez”?

  461. 461 wee2424 said at 9:43 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s possible the rest of the league doesn’t hold him in as high regard as PFF. While a good and interesting site at times I believe it can also be flawed at times. Such as ranking Allen as a very good safety.

  462. 462 GEAGLE said at 8:48 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    For me, he is entitled to want a new deal, more money, whatever… But the moment he takes the contract ish to Twitter and the media, I lose all respect and sympathy for his cause..,,.Last summer he wanted more money but made it clear that he would refuse to talk about his contract in the media and I respected the heck out of him for it…..but as soon as you take it to Twitter or the media, I lose respect and then you just become the next idiot to do sit-ups n his driveway of tell the media you want a new deal 5 minutes after a playoff loss….

    Your worth is whatever you can negotiate.. His agent has had permission to find him a new deal for over a year now.. Doesn’t seem like you are in position to negotiate much more, thus I see no reason why you should get a penny more especially if you are going to go the Twitter route and become a distraction… Where as if you were going about it the way you were last summer I would be way more sympathetic to his cause..
    Also probably doesn’t help that at your age you coming off an injury filled season

    I’d love to see us sigń Lael Collins because that would quickly put an end to this mathis nonsense… He can show up and play, or chip can just hold his rights and łet hm waste two of his last NFL seasons.
    I think Evan loses in the court of public opinion by going to Twitter. A lot of people respected how he went about his business last summer wanting a new deal, but making it clear to the media that he won’t be discussing his contract matters publically.. When a player goes about it that way,I feel like for the most part fans side with the player, but as soon as you go the media route its a major turnoff to fans… Whether it’s fair or not to Evan who knows.. He went about it the right way last summer, and it got him no where, so can’t completely blame the man,,
    He is one of our best lineman, hopefully chip and mathis can resolve it and both be happy, but I’m not sure how this is going to end.. On one hand mathis has no leverage and will have to report or lose money and at his age he can’t ne sitting out seasons to poorest a contract so chip holds all the cards… On the other hand, I can see chips low tolerance not even think he is worth the headache putting no player above the team… I don’t know how this ends, disgruntled mathis having to play for us and only make 5mil this year? Or chip just counting to swing his mighty axe and cut him too…

  463. 463 ChaosOnion said at 10:35 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    But what did he take to twitter? He is not doing sit-ups in his driveway, he was responding to a, true as it may be, frankly very “dickish” comment from his coach. The back and forth with the fans was stupid, but when you argue with idiots, you end up looking like an idiot.

    I do expect more from Mathis. Building up ire between you and your boss is never a good move. But then again, one of my boss’ is a DAL fan and we have a ball firing insults back and forth. Banter is okay if it is understood as such by both sides.

  464. 464 iceberg584 said at 7:52 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Most of the recent stuff occurred this past Saturday. During the post-draft presser, Chip was asked about the Mathis situation and said: “Evan Mathis has been available two years and there have been no offers.” Mathis, predictably displeased with this, summarized his sentiments in a word word tweet: “Deez.” The responses to him on Twitter weren’t overwhelmingly supportive, even from Eagles fans, and he started back-and-forthing with some – which never plays well for a professional athlete.

  465. 465 A_T_G said at 11:13 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Is Doug Farrar of ESPN just flat out wrong?

    “In the third round, the choice was Texas outside linebacker Jordan Hicks, who could be a pass-rusher in a rotational sense. “

  466. 466 ICDogg said at 11:16 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Maybe he knows something we don’t.

  467. 467 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 11:20 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I thinks he just speculating. Chip Called Hicks a 3-4 MIKE LB, similar to Meco

  468. 468 FairOaks said at 11:24 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    I had seen that comment too and didn’t get it. He was an OLB at Texas, but they run a 4-3. Either a brain fart or less-than-careful reporting, I’d guess.

  469. 469 D3FB said at 11:33 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    He’s wrong. He probably just looked at the round, saw he was listed as an OLB (the 43 kind), and said that. He’s a 34 ILB.

  470. 470 BobSmith77 said at 11:42 PM on May 5th, 2015:

    Interesting to get the take in Dallas on the draft from the public:

    Seems very divided between either the Cowboys were shrewd and added a lot of talent to a defense that needed it and can help right away or that ‘Jones is an idiot’ for not drafting a RB & bringing in a head case like Gregory/reaching for Green.

    Jones was almost reaching Braman levels of unpopularity before the start of last season and it will be interesting to see what happens this year if they flame out a bit due to an injury to Romo & finish 7-9/8-8.

  471. 471 GEAGLE said at 9:06 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    IMO Cowboys take a Giant step back this year… Most of their improvements last year were based on significant improvements in Time of Possession. They protected Romo from his own mistakes and from subjecting his broke down body to a beating by running the ball all year long. With Romo was asked to do MUCH LESS then in previous years, no surprise that they were better because of it…Defense improved a lot, but when you really break down the numbers their percentages were almost the same as the previous year only difference was they were on the field much less then the year before..

    Think they are making a serious mistake to go into the season with McFadden and Randle because he averaged 7 yards a carry when they ran him once in a blue moon… They should have built on last years formula instead they took big steps backwards in the run game, and they didn’t bother to add any defenders that will help against the run
    Romo and the defense will be asked to do much more then last year. And they didn’t improve enough to Ask that of them… Dallas added. CB I think the world of, but Greg Hardy can’t play for 2 and a half months, they will count on Mincy and Demarcus Lawrence as the DE’s… They think they got a steal with Gregory but chip Kelly would NEVER put that kid on the field next year, he is even less ready to set the edge against th run then Macus smith was… Dude was one of the best defenders in college and he was on the field the entire time and let MELVIN Gordon run for 400 yards without playing the entire 4th quarter… Lane or Jason Peters would kill Gregory in the run game next year..
    Time of possession will NOT help Romo and the defense the way it did Last year, and they will be exposed because of it. Didn’t come close enough to improving the passing offense and the run defense to ask those two areas to have to do more by taking such an Important player away from that team.. Demarco Murray was everything to that cowboys team last year, now he is part of the Bird Gang lol..
    I expect a big step back from the cowboys now that they can’t hide weaknesses as much with time or posession and a run game like last year… I expect the Giants to be our main competitor next year insted of dallas..Keep in mind that this division never has the same division winner two years in a row so dallas is due for a fall,…Giants went into last season with 27 new players so it should have been expected that they would struggle last year and be much bette in year two after all those new players had time to Gel..

  472. 472 GEAGLE said at 9:35 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Really curious what chip has in mind for next year now that we lost both our emergency Gameday QBs James Casey and Brad Smith? having so few players on the game day roster seems to be one of the few things chip hates about the pro game, and these past two years we saw him prefer to only dress two QBs, electing to go with “emergency QBs” instead of dressing #3 Matt Barkley…
    Unless Miles Austin or the other new WR “Tutu” have QB ability that I don’t know of, I’m really curious to see what chip thinks he is going to do on Gameday next year? Is he going to be forced to dress the 3rd string QB, I assume that would be Barkley(Yes I know he sucks but believe it or not, he probably improved a bit since the last time we saw him) …

    I DESPISE TEBOW in an Eagle Jersey, I hate it, it makes my blood boil. But one of the things that really makes me hate the kid is he is supposed to be this great kid, this great leader, yet he isn’t willing to do anything to help us win. He is ONLY interested in gettng a chance to play QB, and that’s absurd… GJ friggin Kinney would do anything to help the Philadelphia Eagles win. ANYTHING!! Yet we resssurected this QB hacks dead career give him a chance, and he isn’t willing to do anything to help us. He could be extremely versatile but he is so selfish that he wastes a nice speed/size/athleticism combo on QB pipe Dream..
    Make no mistake about it. while Tebiw sucks as a QB, I have no doubts that he could find other ways to positively impact football games, but the great leader selfishly won’t do anything but play QB..
    IF TEBOW actually had a Brain, he would tell chip Kelly that he is willing to play TE, WR, RB, And any special team role the coach wants.., if this brainiac was willing to play these other positions, he would probably BLOW BARKLEY out of the Competition, because even if he can’t beat out Bakley in a traditional QB competition, Chip can view it as TEBOW replacing Brad Smith, who was the reason Barkley didn’t dress on Game days..Brad Smith contributed to ST, some WR and got to dress every game as the emergency QB,.. TEBOW could easily go this route and not only would he make the team. But he would end up dressing on Gameday while Barkley is either cut, or continues to be inactive on game day…

    I would Really Love to see us Bring Terrel Pryor in, and Have a Pryor vs, TEBOW battle, for the Brad smith, ST, Swiss army knife, emergency Gameday category role….. But it doesn’t look like TEBOW is interested in helping the Eagles in other ways, and I have no idea what Chip is planning to do on Gameday next year in terms of Traditional #3 QB vs. Emergency Gameday #3 QB role who plays other positions for us???
    Really like to know chips thoughts about how he thinks he will replace the loss of emergency Gameday QBs Brad Smith and James Casey?
    Who know, GJ Kinney did ask to no longer be a camp arm so he can try to make the team as a ST player and Swiss Army knife,.. Any chance GJ Kinney is good enough to fill the Brad smith role and find himself dressing on Gameday, playing Special teams while functioning as our emergency QB? If Kinney dresses over Barkley I can’t help but to laugh, barkley would be so pissed…

  473. 473 CrackSammich said at 10:00 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I imagine the best option would be Tre Burton for Emergency QB, but you’ve also got Lane Johnson and Marcus Smith. Either way, this seems like one of those situations that if it was ever needed in game, it really doesn’t matter who’s back there.

  474. 474 Avery Greene said at 10:39 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    You won’t despise Tebow when he prays us a Superbowl…

  475. 475 GEAGLE said at 10:43 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Hasnt managed to pray his way into a job in a few years.. All those times he was showing off singing Gospel songs while warming up pregame knowing he was Mic’ed up sure didn’t seem to help him pray his way into being an adequateNFL QB…

  476. 476 Avery Greene said at 10:48 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s okay, I’m just joking. But if he does the polar plunge this year and walks on top of the water, you’ll be a believer.

  477. 477 GEAGLE said at 12:05 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I just ask for 53 of the most talent, driven “all in” players we can get who will literally do anything asked of them to help bring a SUPERBOWL to philly.. Basically I want 53 Darren Sproles types… You can ask Sproles to lineup at Left Tackle and block Greg Hardy, and the smallest player on our team would go out there and try to block Greg Hardy…
    It drives me crazy to have this talent, size/athleticism on the team that we can put to good use, but we have a player too selfish to play other positions..we have a player who could bring some nice versatility to the team, yet he makes himself one dimensional with his refusal to play other roles..
    That’s why I can’t help but to respect GJ Kinney… Kids trying to compete at every role the coaches will allow him to compete at to try and find a way for him to help the Philadelphia Eagles….

  478. 478 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:57 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wow, calm down the Tebow hate. I have always felt the Tebow the TE is a hugely disrespectful thing to say to the leagues TE’s. There are like 40-50 guys who can play the position at a competent NFL level – that is a select bunch, If all you needed was a 6-5 frame, get ripped and be a high character guy there would be no need to have more than a bunch of UDFA guys.

    Tebow is a QB – has played it his entire life, Jets have dabbled with trying different roles and it was a hilarious failure. I think Tebow is good enough to be in the league, as a backup. He gives you the potential to win games in a different way than most 3rd string QB’s. They will look at Tebow over OTA’s and TC, and if they think he has he potential to progress to a No.2 QB they will keep him long term, because he is a cheap high character guy, if not he battles with Barclay this year and they will draft a developmental QB at some point next year.

  479. 479 BC1968 said at 11:08 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I agree about your TE statement, I disagree about the number 2 QB. Number 2 only amounts to his talent as a QB.

  480. 480 Alistair Middlemiss said at 11:10 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Tebow has not shown the ability to consistently throw the ball in the NFL, but then neither has Barkley to this point. IF he can throw it half competently, Chip has won games at the college level with less talent at the QB position.

  481. 481 BC1968 said at 12:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The Chip Factor is worth noting when talking about whether Tebow can make the roster.

  482. 482 GEAGLE said at 11:47 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    calm down your response pal.. When you respond like a donkey I don’t make it past your first sentence… Go home, regroup, come back and try again tomorrow. Good day

  483. 483 mksp said at 11:51 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Oh look, more condescending bullshit from you.

    When are you going to fuck off? Waiting to get banned first?

  484. 484 peteike said at 12:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    if gets close to the backup QB role Ill start caring. Even at that point hes either doing something well or hes there per injury so it becomes less concerning. Offseason always gets in depth discussion on guys who rarely see the field. Good ole, 5th/6th wr talk

  485. 485 BreakinAnklez said at 10:17 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Shady popping off…again

  486. 486 BreakinAnklez said at 10:21 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Full interview on ESPN

  487. 487 Avery Greene said at 10:29 AM on May 6th, 2015:


  488. 488 GEAGLE said at 10:40 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    WOW… Shady just went “Full Retard”…Can’t believe he just went there. If you shut your mouth you will go down as one for the best backs in franchise history, This just makes you sound like an ignorant donkey…
    chip sure doesn’t seem to mind really talented “Black” Jason Peters, or really talented “black” Byron Maxwell.,, Demarco Murray Wasnt exactly pale looking last time I checked,
    According to shady, Herremans, James Casey, Casey Mathews, and possibly Evan Mathis must really be getting screwed since they aren’t getting any love because they are white.. under Shadys “intelligent lol” criteria Chip KKKelly first pffseason as a GM must be a complete failure. he wasn’t able to pay any white boys in Free agency, and he didn’t get a white boy Til round 7 of th draf… Chip being stuck having to sign and draft all these “brothers” must be chips personal nightmare…
    Shady, can’t believe you went from philadelphia great, to complete jackass piece of shit, this is just sad…

  489. 489 BlindChow said at 10:41 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s nice that Shady’s making it easier for us not to miss him.

  490. 490 BreakinAnklez said at 11:20 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Frustrating man. Loved Shady and I’m quickly starting to dislike him

  491. 491 Bert's Bells said at 12:10 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Always disliked him as a person, but think he’s a great player. Best running back to wear the Eagles uniform and that’s counting van Buren and all the old timers.

  492. 492 ACViking said at 12:17 PM on May 6th, 2015:


    Beware the ghost of SVB.

  493. 493 peteike said at 10:45 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Just makes me think he cant wait for the lovely weather in Buffalo. Enjoy the rest of your career in purgatory LeSean, we liked you before but keep digging that hole.

  494. 494 GEAGLE said at 10:50 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Shadys article is called “im going to show them”…

    Look forward to seeing that Mr. McCoy,, I look forward to seeing what Fletcher Cox, Thornton, Bennie Logan, Barwin, Kiko, Kemdrick have to say about Shadys DECEMBER return to philly…but I bet the remaining Eagles will be classy enough to show it on the field. The difference between a blowhard like shady who belongs with Rex Ryan..
    Smh Stephan A Smith is having a ball with this… Thanks shady
    Stephan A smith Claims chip was feeling the heat from media and black players so he was forced into signing Demarco Murray because he was feeling the Heat. LOL smh… Thank you shady. You just unleashed the biggest donkey in the media on fans that supported you for years.. Stephan A smith is thanking and applauding Shady for saying this publically….

  495. 495 Avery Greene said at 10:53 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’ll say the same thing I say to my dad, “Being black isn’t a problem, it’s people like this that make it hard for us.”

  496. 496 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:59 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Shady is just trying to help Chip out, anyone on the roster who was questioning his move will look at that press conference and think what a salty little diva bitch. He is just trying to look out for the Chippa.

  497. 497 GEAGLE said at 11:09 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s 2015, by this point I’m completely against anything that segregates humans into subgroups. I don’t want to hear about womans rights, Boack rights, white rights, Asian rights. Im against All OF THEM, because all of those rights acknowledge a separation between human beings, and I’ve been on this earth for 32 years and never discriminated against a human being for any reason, so Im tired of it and will no longer acknowledge or put up with such ignorance
    By 2015 everyone has been exposed to racism, sexism, discrimination. Everyone is educated on it, everyone has seen it, and deep down everyone should know better. if you are going to continue to seperate human beings then you are an ignorant donkey in my eyee.. Im against anything that seperates human beings from each other

  498. 498 Brian Pillion said at 11:15 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Walls, fences, highway abutments, space-time, and (especially) clothing — I too am against anything that separates human beings from each other. I mean, really, it’s 2015. We should all be curled naked in one another’s arms by now, am I right?

  499. 499 Bert's Bells said at 12:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    One big throbbing mass of a flesh and Cheetos.

  500. 500 Avery Greene said at 11:15 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    You need those because people are still being marginalized. I even discriminate. Tell me you wouldn’t walk across the street if you saw this guy coming toward you…

  501. 501 Dominik said at 11:26 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    You still need to safe those who get discriminated from people who don’t know better or who don’t want to know better. It’s great that you personally don’t act like it, but that doesn’t help minorities if others don’t act like you.

  502. 502 GEAGLE said at 1:32 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Who’s those that are being discrininted against in America on such a big scale level where one group of people is discriminating against another? Where is this predominently racist group in America that’s going around discriminating on a bunch of minorities? We are in super heightened political correctness mode, hate crimes are prospected to the fullest as they should be..
    But there is enough of this crap that we need to put up with in the outside world, I don’t need to get Into it on a football blog. So I’ll bow out of this discussion ..
    Go eagles… I was happy that shady got traded to my afc mistress buffalo bills team, now I wish he was a raider.
    He will make it hard for me to root for the bills defense.

  503. 503 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:56 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Ah, $hit, Geagle, you just jumped the shark and that’s saying something, man.

  504. 504 mksp said at 11:39 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    (1) “I’ve been on this earth for 32 years and never discriminated against a human being for any reason”

    This is patently false, and you got banned from 24/7 because of it, and you know it.

    (2)”I don’t want to hear about womans rights, Boack rights, white rights, Asian rights. Im against All OF THEM, because all of those rights acknowledge a separation between human beings”

    This demonstrates a fundamental misinterpretation of the necessity of rights organizations and activists. There is empirical evidence that certain groups are actively discriminated against and that biases exist across society. Including your own biases, which you’ve made abundantly clear in the past, ironically proving the need for activism and education in this sphere.

    In other words, shut the fuck up, you know nothing of what you speak.

  505. 505 Bert's Bells said at 12:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    If we could have signatures on this site I would use your last line (spellchecked, of course).

  506. 506 mksp said at 12:13 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Ha, nice catch. My GEAGLE rage overcame my ability to spell.

  507. 507 Bert's Bells said at 12:27 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Now you know what it feels like to be GEAGLE. So overcome with rage that the dictionary and good grace fly out the window.

  508. 508 BC1968 said at 12:19 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Well said.

  509. 509 Baloophi said at 11:52 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Didn’t you just call Shady a “Full Retard”? Guess separating humans based on handicaps is cool…

  510. 510 GEAGLE said at 12:26 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lol what a blow job you are,, I typically don’t respond to trash lik you, but leave it up to a donkey to take offense to a famous pop culture movie line,,,wipe your mouth.,

  511. 511 mksp said at 12:28 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wait, you’re 32?

    You’re technically a grown man, and you talk like this?

  512. 512 Nailed it! said at 12:37 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    So wait, you routinely comment saying you do not respond to people’s comments because they are beneath you, or as you say “donkey.” Avoiding the clear irony of these statements, who do you feel are the worthwhile commentators on this site?

  513. 513 Bert's Bells said at 11:59 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    “This” being the racist Chip Kelly, amirite?


  514. 514 anon said at 10:59 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    i’m surprised he’s had more to say than desean. that said — when we lost to lolskins it was “desean should still be here” sad to say most of that 2012 eagles team is gone.

  515. 515 Avery Greene said at 11:02 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m not sad if we get significantly better. There was a limit with that 2012 team, and CK wants a higher ceiling.

    Those guys weren’t ready for the likes of Seattle and GB, so now the chase is on to catch those teams (or surpass hopefully).

  516. 516 GEAGLE said at 12:24 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Agreed and Im also concerned with shady not being able to win in the playoffs even tho he had hall of fame LT blocking for him… It’s not even so much about Shadys lack of playoff success, I worry that his style of running DOESNT work in long playoff runs, especially recently where the power backs have dominated playoff football: BEASTMODE, Lacy, Gore, demarco even won a playoff game before shady…..Blount has been a better playoff RB..
    Especially recently I feel like playoff success typically is seen in teams with a power RB a nice pass catching change of pace RB,,,
    Barry Samders, never had any real playoff success, shady hasn’t either.. I feel like for a smaller back to have real playoff success, they have to be a major pass catching weapon like Brain Westbrook, Marshall Faulk, even Jamaal Charles, Darren Sproles…. Shady is a good pass catcher, but his much more of a runner Barry sanders type then a pass catching Westbrook/Marshall Faulk type..
    Stylisticalky, I feel like power backs Demarco and Mathews along with pass catching weapon Sproles gives us a better chance to playpff success, then continuing to wait for shady to elevate his game and win a playoff game…
    Shady is easily one of the best RBs in eagke history but I don’t see how he can ever be placed ahead of westbrook who carried offenses to playoff wins as an eagle, showing up consistenty deep into the playoffs

  517. 517 BC1968 said at 11:04 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    He was forced to sign Murray? He was forced to draft a black WR? In fact how many of his draft picks were black? He was forced to sign Sproles last year? Blah Fucking Blah Blah Blah

  518. 518 EagleNebula said at 11:28 AM on May 6th, 2015:

  519. 519 BC1968 said at 12:22 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Haha Awesome. Yeah, Science bitch! (To be clear, not referring to you as a bitch)

  520. 520 EagleNebula said at 12:35 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I honestly envisioned

  521. 521 BC1968 said at 1:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    haha NIce, that was the reference I was going for. The bitch is missing though.

  522. 522 anon said at 11:23 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    randy gregory got the cowboy’s logo tatooed on his arm.

  523. 523 GEAGLE said at 11:25 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    LOL YES!!! This is such a draft day gift for us from uncle Jerry..
    The Only franchise that employes Baby Sitters for its players.. Dez BRyant claims he is a bigboy now and no longer needs his baby sitter, so jerry had a spare baby sitter and it was only right to replace the young Jackass role Dez claims he graduated from…. Demarcus a lawrence will be a much better player then this idiot

  524. 524 peteike said at 11:32 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    its as if Jerry drafted him for the sole purpose of saying hey, look at us, we like to help people here in Dallas. This way, we can keep adding questionable players to our roster under a banner of phoney concern.

  525. 525 GEAGLE said at 11:44 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lol it’s like he was itching to make up for the smart move of passing on Johnny footbal last year, He just made another really smart pick in Byron Jones, and he just couldn’t stand to leave it on a good note,,, had to go add another idiot, as if that team doesn’t have enough questionable character…
    Basically they are building the opposite of chip Kelly team. chip Kelly BETTER NOT LOSE any more games to that collection of donkeys… Culture is this important then you Better wipe the floor with Dallas “the longest yard” roster.

  526. 526 lonfident said at 8:18 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m going to make that guy my life coach.

  527. 527 GEAGLE said at 11:23 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Stephan A Smith applauds shady for standing up and saying this publically.. he claims that he contacted the Eaglea to have chip sit down with Stephan for an interview and address this but the Eagles declined and wouldnt comment and his lap dog skip Bayless chimed in sayng that the Eagles need to respond to this…

    I hope Dereck Boyko tells them to kiss his ass and doesn’t make chip address this disgusting ignorance

  528. 528 peteike said at 11:31 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    gotta laugh at a bad, second rate TV show demanding anything

  529. 529 Dominik said at 11:34 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lol, I’m sure Stephen A. Smith is EXACTLY the person Chip wants to talk to. If he wants to give a 1 on 1, he could give it to basically any reporter, national or local. He has been a pop star this offseason. And from all the reporters, of course he would chose Stephen A. Smith. Because why shouldn’t he?

  530. 530 GEAGLE said at 11:40 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Haven’t you heard, Stephan A is the self proclaimed voice,of the African American,Race.. GTFO here, he is a cartoon who insults the African American race by claiming he is their mouth piece… He is literally a cartoon,
    He claims that he isn’t making any of this up, this is what he hears from black players who are all starting to question and wonder about Chip “KKKelly”
    Funny, because every time it’s free agency or the draft, I see some quality respected black man raving about the Eagles culture, what a special place it is, how bad they wanted to become Eagles… Go ask Rowe or Agholor about chips KKK culture lol… Go ask Jason Peters how racist Chip is, or Demeco Mufasa Ryan…. Funny how well respected Black man Demarco Murray was just raving about the Eagkes two months ago… Byron Maxwell left the Super Bowl seahawks and the Legion of Boom to sign onto a KKK culture?
    It’s just ridiculous and disgusting that a coach can’t build a team the way he wants without crap like this getting thrown around. It’s disgusting, low class, trash behavior

  531. 531 Tikkit, upping the SPARQ said at 11:35 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Even replying to the request is too much in my opinion. Block the number and give them the busy signal.

  532. 532 Mac said at 11:48 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Send a glitter bomb.

  533. 533 A_T_G said at 11:59 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    …with white, black, AND colored glitter all mixed together.

  534. 534 nicolajNN said at 11:33 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Here what bothers me, first he says this:

    “You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That’s the truth. There’s a reason. … It’s hard to explain with him. But there’s a reason he got rid of all the black players — the good ones — like that.”

    Then in response to the next question he claims:

    “So it’s nothing to do with Chip. I have no hatred toward him, nothing to say negative about him.”

    So you first call Chip a racist, more or less, then proceed to say there’s no ill feelings toward him. Seriously Shady, either stand behind your comment completely, or shut up!

  535. 535 Dominik said at 11:36 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s very strange, of course. But it could even be a good thing. Maybe Shady got the feeling that he just took a cheap shot.

    On the other hand, I assume Shadys agent authorized the interview. And if the racist claim is in there, it’s because Shady wanted it to be in there.

  536. 536 nicolajNN said at 11:49 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Good point, but it doesn’t seem like the kind of impulsive comment that he would then rethink or regreat, instead he reiterated and repeated the part about black players

  537. 537 Mac said at 11:47 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Dude jukes as fast with his mouth as he does with his feet. #nosurprises

  538. 538 Rambo said at 12:35 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He should learn to #shutuponadime

  539. 539 ChaosOnion said at 1:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    > Especially all the good black players.

    So I wonder, what Jason Peters, Jordan Matthews, Darren Sproles, Fletcher Cox, Malcolm Jenkins, etc. think about that statement.

  540. 540 Ark87 said at 11:38 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Interesting that Shady feels that way. There definitely was a different culture before Chip Kelly’s arrival. It was headed by the leadership of Mike Vick and seemed to have a hierarchy based on star power. McCoy and Jackson became a sort leader by way of their talent level and value to the team. Guys like Jason Avant and Brent Celek were important culture guys in the locker room but far from the center of the locker room constellation.

    Chip Kelly shows up, and there is no doubt he values a certain type of player on the field and off. Character-wise, he is gathering up individuals that have a soldier-like mentality/demeanor. Keeping in mind one of the penultimate Chip guys is DeMeco Ryan, as well as Brent Celek, and they are very different characters from Jaccpot and Shady (who I hold nothing against character-wise, it’s just not what Chip wants). It doesn’t seem any different from the “Patriot Way” really. Shady might feel that a transcendent talent like gronk can get away with being a knucklehead or Revis can get away with being a bit of a Diva. So maybe it comes down to this: Shady has to deal with the fact that Chip didn’t see him as the transcendent talent that he thought he was. It will irk him more than anything if we do just as well or better without him.

  541. 541 wee2424 said at 1:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Absolutely correct.

  542. 542 Dominik said at 11:42 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Two good Tweets about the Shady situation, imo

    Benjamin Allbright
    47 Min.

    LeSean McCoy opening his mouth to spew baseless nonsense, is basically validating Kelly getting rid of him.

    Mark Saltveit
    21 Min.

    LeSean McCoy: Chip “got rid of all the black players — the good ones”. @fcoxx_91 will refute that when Birds play BIlls Dec 13. In person.

  543. 543 OregonDucker said at 11:47 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    And further info on Chip’s racism.

  544. 544 Dominik said at 12:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Hey OD, how did the draft went in your opinion? Are you happy Chip didn’t get his wish, because of the price tag it would have cost, or are you kind of disappointed because of how great MM + Chip could have been together? I mean, you saw those two guys together first hand.

  545. 545 PerfectTrader777 said at 12:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Not to answer for the man but I’ve been an OR fan for 20 years myself. I would have loved to see MM with the Eagles. Having not known what “the deal” would have entailed it’s hard to say if it’s a good decision or not. I’m guessing we would have had to give up way too much. This offense can still thrive with a good non-running QB. Sam Bradford has potential at least with this team. We shall see…
    Chip isn’t using the plays with Foles etc that he did at Oregon with MM so he isn’t “using his full playbook”. Instead he’s introducing other novelty-ish plays that he wouldn’t have used with MM. I’m not that concerned about not having running ability even though it would have been a real nice add-on.

  546. 546 OregonDucker said at 1:54 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Hi Dominik, I thought an MM deal was 50/50 but the demands for 2016 picks during the draft process were stupid. Bottomline, I am pleased with how the ordeal worked out for the team. Chip may still have a chance with MM in a couple of years so the dream is not dead.

    Like many fans, I was disappointed that no OL were chosen in the draft. But I think the WR priority at #1 was best; thus precluding a good OL pick. After that good-fit OL went fast so I’m happy with priorities in subsequent rounds. The Hick’s pick was a wtf moment, but after looking at his film and reading that some pundits had him at #2, I understand the pick.

    Overall, I am real happy with the draft. I am cheering for Sheppard, Davis, Manhart, and Coccia. These guys can help the team. I’d like “Death” Rowe as safety and Sheppard opposite Maxwell.

  547. 547 wee2424 said at 1:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s unfortunate how bullshit like Shadys is at times listened to over logic, facts, and really just common sense.

  548. 548 P_P_K said at 11:49 AM on May 6th, 2015:

    Poor Shady. First he had to suffer under the racist reign of Chip, now the guy has to play under another racist in Buffalo. Ryan is obviously a white supremist, look at how he deliberately messed with Geno Smith because he didn’t want a black qb to succeed. I’ve heard Rex is such a racist he deliberately drives on the black parts of the road.

  549. 549 ACViking said at 12:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    PPK (hope you see this):

    How ’bout an update on your son’s take on the draft — and also the rookie free agents.

    And who’d he want going in?

  550. 550 P_P_K said at 12:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    ACViking, you, sir, are a true gentleman. My son greatly appreciates knowing you welcome him into our Eagles brotherhood.

    To answer your question, he says, “I only saw the 1st round of the draft. I don’t know much about our new wr, but I think he’s going to work out. I would have preferred we kept Maclin and used the 1st round pick for a cb or safety.”

    Also, “I’m glad we didn’t go after Mariotta because the cost would have been insane.”

  551. 551 ACViking said at 5:18 PM on May 6th, 2015:


    That’s great stuff, especially the strategic thinking re: Maclin.

    (Counter-point to Young PPK: Keeping J-Mac may have impacted other FA signings, like Murray; next move is yours.)

  552. 552 P_P_K said at 10:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    “Hey, I’m 12 years-old, salary-cap management ain’t my strong suit!”

  553. 553 PerfectTrader777 said at 12:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’d love to hear Josh Huff or someone on this team stick up for CK. He’s been like a father to Huff ever since Huff played at Oregon.

  554. 554 ACViking said at 12:09 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    When someone is blowing himself up (metaphorically), the best response is to stand back quietly and let him do it.

  555. 555 Bert's Bells said at 12:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yeah, you never win by saying “I’m not a racist!”

  556. 556 Crus57 said at 12:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Agreed, though you do have to make sure you’re standing back far enough to not get caught in the blast.

  557. 557 PerfectTrader777 said at 12:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    True. Just would be a nice gesture

  558. 558 Mac said at 1:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I chewed on your words a bit, and then found a similar quote that affirms your wisdom.

    Proverbs 26:4Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
    or you yourself will be just like him.

  559. 559 MattE said at 12:39 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I hope we trade Riley Cooper to Buffalo.

  560. 560 Insomniac said at 12:40 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m fine with trading him to anyone..even the Cowgirls.

  561. 561 Bert's Bells said at 12:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’d do Cooper and a 6th for Manziel.

  562. 562 Bert's Bells said at 12:40 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wait’ll McCoy sees all of that Buffalo snow.

    Whole damn city goes white.

  563. 563 MattE said at 12:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Ever see the Key & Peele skit about Black Ice? Hilarious.

  564. 564 Bert's Bells said at 12:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Haven’t, but they’re great. I’ll look it up.

  565. 565 MattE said at 12:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    …Meanwhile in Buffalo

  566. 566 MattE said at 12:42 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I mean obviously Riley Cooper is every black player’s friend now in the league…. he is now a Black/White ambassador

  567. 567 GEAGLE said at 12:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I can’t wait to get Coops money off the books.. But now part of me doesn’t want to cut him giving shady satisfaction…chips nuts, I wouldn’t be surprised if chip heard this and tonight the eagles announce they are giving Cooper a “Barwin Bonus” just for being an awesome eagle lol.. Troll shady hard! Lol

    Cutting Cooper now gives shady satisfaction that this nonsense pressured chip into cutting coop.
    But one thing is certain, if Coop wants any chance of being here past this year, he will have to agree to a massive pay cut and relinquish his starting role…

  568. 568 MattE said at 12:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I heard the Bills also hired John Rocker as head of marketing.

  569. 569 wee2424 said at 12:59 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    We can’t trade him. He is white.

  570. 570 botto said at 12:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    McCoy is missing the point he didn’t get rid of all the black players he got rid of all the annoying players.
    and this is proof

  571. 571 Jeff said at 12:47 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Talk about acquiring players that are “wired right,” I think that trade freed up a roster spot for someone wired a little better in the head.

  572. 572 MattE said at 12:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Can we get to the real point here…… Stephen A. Smith is a terrible human being and has no volume control like DMX.

  573. 573 eagleyankfan said at 12:55 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Class > Shady

  574. 574 BobSmith77 said at 1:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Jackson voiced his frustration but generally moved on while McCoy just keeps taking the bait from the media who wants some juicy quotes to fill space during a lull in NFL-related news.

  575. 575 botto said at 1:02 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    yeah who woulda thought Jackson was actually calmer then McCoy?

  576. 576 BobSmith77 said at 1:05 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    A large part of this is the media because they keep asking the same question over and over again. McCoy would just be wiser and better served to say ‘I have already said what I had to say on that topic and won’t talk about it or the Eagles until the game this season.’

  577. 577 botto said at 1:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    yeah but he isn’t wise

  578. 578 D3FB said at 3:17 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Well that and Shady plays for Rex now. Rex encourages this kind of crap.

  579. 579 A_T_G said at 4:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Jackson lost millions and had the fear of losing more. Shady just had to move to Buffalo. Jackson had more to humble him.

  580. 580 Bert's Bells said at 1:31 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Nobody in DC has the room to call any other organization in the NFL “racist”.

  581. 581 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:48 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Unless we change our logo to this:

  582. 582 BobSmith77 said at 1:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I can understand why some of the black players on the Eagles do keep wondering why Cooper is still here despite his on-field performance. I might wonder too a bit.

    There just isn’t anything of substance though beyond that to substantiate the ‘racist’ claims though from other players or coaches with the Eagles. Ditto form his days at Oregon.

    This unfortunately got legs from Stephen A. Smith (then Tra Thomas’ comments which I still wonder if they weren’t largely prompted because Kelly dumped him) and has lingered ever since then.

  583. 583 GEAGLE said at 1:22 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I doubt they wonder, because they are smart enough to understand the concept of dead money and im sure they can look around at a predominantly black locker room…every good black player we lost came at a time where money factored into the decision. Chip got demarco, Ryan and Kiko for the price of shady.. Maclin is gone because 10mil was as high as we were willing to go.. Cole was cut when we could finally get out of that contract financially.. Had you cut come last year when it was cheaper to keep him then maybe you can bring race into question.. desean got cut when we all knew his vontract was going to have to be addressed when we signed the deal. We let black corners walk when contract expired and Replaced them with more expensive black corners 60mil to Maxwell and a 2nd and two 5th round picks for Rowe
    What an absurd crock of ish
    Financially Coop can be cut after this season, if we let him keep his massively overpaid contract past this season then you can “wonder”

  584. 584 BobSmith77 said at 1:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    People almost never think in $ and cents terms and emotional-thinking often overrules them.

    My only point is that the whole ‘racist’ stuff seems to solely stem from Cooper still being here. If he had gotten released/traded this offseason, I can’t see this story having any legs at all. That’s it.

  585. 585 GEAGLE said at 1:46 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Curious to see what decisions are made on Coop after this season when you can get out of his contract? And will this crap perception play any role in chips decision on Coops future after this next season?
    I assume under no circumstance will he be allowed to play out his current overpriced contract, but Riley could still be a good #4 WR and ST player, does chip try to keep him if he is willing to take a massive pay cut… Or will he be fed up with the drama that has come with Coop and cut him without even giving him the option to take a significant paycut?

  586. 586 anon said at 2:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    mathis bitches about $$, tries to force trade, etc. but he’s still here

  587. 587 BobSmith77 said at 2:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Good point.

  588. 588 nicolajNN said at 1:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    What is really needed is a thorough study, preferably by Ted Wells, into Nick Foles’ true skin colour. We need to see birth certificate, family tree, no stone left unturned, something seems very off about that situation

  589. 589 botto said at 1:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    is there anyone whiter then nick foles?

  590. 590 eagleyankfan said at 2:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Kevin White?

  591. 591 EaglesFan1 said at 6:42 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Riley cooper

  592. 592 GEAGLE said at 1:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Herremans is clearly 1/16th African American… And Mathis is being shunned for being considered an “honorary brother”…
    Best player on the Philadelphia Eagles has been black for like the past 7 years, aka Jason Peters..
    I hope chip kelly spends his first round pick on Zeke Elliot and chip remains the coach of the Eagles until Zeke erases shadys name from all the eagle record books..How can he be this stupid? You are putting yourself in a no win situation for no reason. You got traded to a team that gave you more money and is a 3 hour drive from Pennslyvania, don’t do this to your eagle legacy… Smh should have traded him to Oakland for Khalil Mack

  593. 593 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s McNabb I’m wondering about.

  594. 594 CrackSammich said at 1:13 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    When there are so many significant and obvious issues in our society involving racism, I find it hard to care when athletes are given comparable 7 figure contracts from a different employer as a result of “racism”.

    Second thought: Is Buffalo really *that* bad to start all this?

  595. 595 Bert's Bells said at 1:29 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    You been to Buffalo? It’s America’s way of keeping Canadians out.

  596. 596 A_T_G said at 4:27 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I thought that was Detroit?

  597. 597 EaglesFan1 said at 6:42 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I live about an hour and a half away from buffalo and I’ve been there a few times, last time was in novemeber for a football game and I have to say it’s just soooooooo weird. Something’s not right about it.

  598. 598 Nailed it! said at 1:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    So the Patriots and coaches had no knowledge of the balls being deflated, but Tom Brady new exactly what he was doing, and had the equipment manager do it all.

    Tom Brady lied right to our faces in that press conference, is this the first black mark on an otherwise other wordily career from Tom?

    Patriots cheated.

    But who cares? They aren’t going to take away the championship… Nor should they imo.

  599. 599 botto said at 1:37 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    why does the mark have to be black?

  600. 600 Avery Greene said at 1:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Dammit you beat me to it!

  601. 601 GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Would you prefer it to be a red mark? What are you trying to say? Are you pro and its owner? Racist!!!

  602. 602 botto said at 1:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    chalk mark

  603. 603 GEAGLE said at 1:49 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Is that yellow or white chalk? Don’t be disrespecting my Asian American brothers!!!

  604. 604 peteike said at 1:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    “Ted Wells released his investigation into the Patriots’ tampering of the footballs today. The report’s conclusions believe it’s “more probable than not” that Patriots personnel tried to break the rules, and that Tom Brady was likely aware of the practice of deflating balls.”

    if anyone still cares at this point

  605. 605 peteike said at 1:48 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    ha, did you read the text exchanges from the personnel guys complaining about Tom bitching about ball pressure, too funny.

  606. 606 Nailed it! said at 1:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Too funny!

    Sounds like two highschool girls texting!

  607. 607 SteveH said at 2:02 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The first one is the best one: “Tom sucks. I’m going to make the next ball a fucking balloon.”

    Cracking me up.

  608. 608 SteveH said at 1:51 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I don’t think they should take away the championship, that would obviously be extreme, but I see no reason why Brady shouldn’t be suspended.

    He won’t be of course, too big a star and the league would rather the whole thing just didn’t exist, but he should be.

  609. 609 Nailed it! said at 1:52 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yes I agree. He clearly knew what was going on and deliberately was gaining a competitive advantage through cheating.

  610. 610 SteveH said at 2:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I gotta admit, I can’t stand Brady or Belichick, and that goes back quite a ways. Brady is a smug arrogant ass and Belichick is a cross between Darth Vader and the old man who yells at you to get off his lawn.

    And it surprises me not a bit that Brady would cheat. I think both of them would bathe in the blood of a dozen newborn infants under a full moon if it meant they’d get another super bowl ring.

  611. 611 peteike said at 2:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    they try and tired everything to get even the smallest advantage in the game of inches. Even when they were good enough not to need it, they still were sneaky mfers. This and spygate will always be a thorn in Pats fans sides, as minimal as they are you know it just burns them to have to acknowledge and defend it. I cant stand Boston fans

  612. 612 SteveH said at 2:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Haha, yeah that comforts me a little. Brady is tainted now, between spygate and this.

    I also love that they finally got their first post spygate super bowl and this deflategate thing happens at the same time. It’s a beautiful thing.

  613. 613 unhinged said at 4:35 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    My view of Belichick is mixed. He’s won many close games in his stint in NE, and there is more than a little evidence that it wasn’t all on the up and up. Having seen his Patriots play more than enough times to form an opinion, however, I am envious of the mental toughness that his teams display. He is doing something right, if he’s not winning right, and I hope that the Eagles start to show that degree focus and attention to the task at hand that Belichick’s Patriots have shown for years.

  614. 614 76mustang said at 1:29 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Benjamin Allbright ‏@AllbrightNFL 2h2 hours ago
    LeSean McCoy needs to check his math. The #Eagles have gone from 41.7% of the team being white players under Reid, to 26% under Chip Kelly.

  615. 615 Avery Greene said at 1:39 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Why bring facts into this argument?

  616. 616 OregonDucker said at 2:02 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Good point Avery, he’s trying to buzzKill the narrative.

  617. 617 GEAGLE said at 1:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Besides simple math, Allnright is a good follow. Well plugged in and seems to be responsible with his info

  618. 618 anon said at 1:55 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    says nothing about whether there are more black players or not. that stat ‘hides the ball’

  619. 619 CrackSammich said at 3:39 PM on May 6th, 2015:


  620. 620 Jernst said at 4:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Agreed the addition of Latino’s like Sanchez and non-racial dieties like Tebow most likely obscures the real truth …

  621. 621 wee2424 said at 4:24 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’m not sure what you mean by this. It definitely shows the number of black players has increased.

  622. 622 botto said at 1:33 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    damn now we really have to beat buffalo… no way we can lose this game now.
    and if we win on a Bradford to cooper touchdown that would be weird.

  623. 623 jesse said at 1:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Tommy was thinking you should change your page logo as none of those players are now on this team

  624. 624 anon said at 1:54 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    nope — those are “vintage” players

  625. 625 Nailed it! said at 1:55 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Silver lining Chip was so close to being in the media all day re Lesean Mccoy, now no one remembers what he said with deflate gate happening.

  626. 626 GEAGLE said at 1:56 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    We get on shady, deservingly so, but tre Thomas racist accusations are probably more disturbing. Tra was a long time eagle who this new regime game him coaching jobs for two years trying to help jump start his coaching career, after they chose not to bring him back for a 3rd year you pull the racism card? You aren’t some 27yr old kid like shady, I expect better from a mature man like Tre who this franchise paid well for years, was embraced by this city, given both media and coaching jobs in this city since retiring…
    Shady is am idiot, but Tre Thomas should be better then that. Chip kelly allowed you to be an offense coach on his staff for one year and a defensive coach on his staff the next year, and the moment you agent brought back you claim racism? Chip deserves better then that from a player who he didn’t even coach that he have a coaching job to having no

  627. 627 mksp said at 1:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Think you’re over your quota today pal.

  628. 628 anon said at 2:05 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    he was just saying what he thought. gotta say both staffs he was on had much better performance when he was there (running game yr one pass rushing year two). he’s the one that got MSII to realize he needed to hit that gym hard — personality probably clashed with chip or chips guys.

  629. 629 GEAGLE said at 2:12 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Did you read the phillymag article? Just the fact that Chip had to respond to his racist accusations at the owners meeting is a can’t chose his staff of coaches and players without the bullshit race card being played? How ignorant and a slap in the face to older generation of black people that really had to endure despicable racism in this country.. Lol @ millionaires who can’t take getting fired playing tbe race card.. How ignorant can you be

  630. 630 wee2424 said at 4:15 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Seems so.

  631. 631 SteveH said at 2:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    So Shady calls Chip a racist and Wells report concludes Brady intentionally deflated balls. Never a dull moment in the NFL.

    As an aside, I gotta admit does a pretty good job of not censoring news that I’m sure the league would prefer went away. Wells report on Brady blaring loud on a breaking news banner across the top of the page right now.

  632. 632 unhinged said at 4:21 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I will upvote you when I read anything on that exposes the glad-handing BS that is apparently SOP for all (?) NFL clubs when a player is under investigation for domestic abuse and other acts of vile lawlessness. We can get total silence, we can get a legalistic, sanitized version of events, and we can even get a version that is not player-friendly, such as the 2nd verdict on Ray Rice AFTER TMZ broke the story. As NY Times reported months ago, most, if not all, of the NFL franchises have members of the local PD on their payroll so that when one of their players gets in trouble, particularly where witnesses are few and charges are embarrassing, a call goes to that team’s PD member before it becomes official. I have never heard this protocol questioned or addressed, and I will be pleasantly surprised when gives us a credible report.

  633. 633 GEAGLE said at 2:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Can the language of the wells report be so ridiculous… After all this time it speaks in terms of “generally aware of” and “more probably then not”… its because they only need to find them 51% probable to deem them guilty,,, so saying “more probable then not” is the equivalent of ruling him guilty…. Forget what the legal word is, but it means needing to meet a 51% more probably standard..

    But some national guys like Adam Caplan seem to believe that Brady and the Patriots will actually be punished, need to see that to believe it..
    shefter “punishment should be a few days away”..
    lol “Tom McNally was referred to as The Deflator” in the report .
    Basically two shmuck fall guys are getting in trouble, maybe a slap on the wrist for Brady and the Patriots. Well worth a Super Bowl.
    Can the Pats ever win a Super Bowl without them having to fire employees afterwards for wrong doings. The guy that got fired over spygate is chilling in Hawii lol prolly cashing Bon Craft fall guy checks

  634. 634 SteveH said at 2:07 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I don’t think he’ll be punished. He’s the golden boy, they’re not going to do anything to him.

    They might fine the equipment managers like half a million a piece though. That would be a very Roger Goodell thing to do.

  635. 635 GEAGLE said at 2:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The two equipment managers will def be the fall guys… Just like they had the fire the video guy after the won the spygate suoerbiwl who is now retired living in Hawii.. pats can’t win a suoerbiwl without having to fire someone afterwards lol

  636. 636 peteike said at 2:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    ha, Im using that last line on my pats fan coworker later today when he gets in

  637. 637 GEAGLE said at 3:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:


  638. 638 FairOaks said at 3:22 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I could see a two-game suspension or something.

  639. 639 wee2424 said at 4:12 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Not to the golden boy. Like SteveH said, it’s the lesser that will be punished under Goodell.

    Having the most iconic faces in the NFLs latest dynasty persecuted for cheating in championship games would not be good for the NFLs image.

  640. 640 GEAGLE said at 4:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He is Done! Suspended for sure

  641. 641 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    patriots gone full heel..they need to play guerreros “I lie, I cheat, I steal” while they run out of the tunnel…half surprised Bellichek hasn’t whacked Goodells head with a chair yet

    Always been a fan of Shady’s talent but could never really root for him the same way I did with Dawkins, Westbrook etc. Something just seemed a lil off about him..the twitter beef with the mother of his child, the bus incident etc. I just always felt like he was a D-Bag, and now he’s really exposing himself to be one, his accusations don’t even make any gotdamn sense. Now I see why lame ass Osi was calling him Lady gaga, he probably knew he was an overly emotional diva a long time before we finally realized it.

  642. 642 GEAGLE said at 2:46 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Wonder how we would feel about some of the beloved Andy Reid era Eagles today if those players had Twitter? McNabb would have been a Twitter diaaster waiting to happen back when he was a young Player with a persecution complex… Freddie mitchel would have been a maniac on Twitter…

  643. 643 P_P_K said at 3:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Freddie would have been a maniac if he was a caveman painting on the walls.

  644. 644 wee2424 said at 4:09 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He may be painting on the walls of his prison cell as we speak.

  645. 645 A_T_G said at 4:18 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    And thanking his hands for the works of art they created.

  646. 646 wee2424 said at 5:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lol. Love what you did there.

  647. 647 P_P_K said at 5:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I had completely forgotten about his legal troubles after the initial arrest. He was sentenced to 37 months and, yea, it sounds like he is in prison right now. The guy is a case study in tragedy.

  648. 648 wee2424 said at 5:35 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yup. Tax fraud.

  649. 649 wee2424 said at 4:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Don’t forget about TO.

  650. 650 GEAGLE said at 4:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Oh lord…He would have been taunting McNabbs on Twitter all day. It would have been great. Tweeting joe banner to kiss his ass and sending out like 300 tweets a day with some variation of “$$$$”, $!”…”show me $$$”…”F u….Pay me!”…
    TO would have been great.
    Shawn Andrews would have tweeted pics of his famous pet penguins.. Goofball
    mark Chimura would have gotten caught “sexting” 16yr old babysitters
    LT and the Playmaker were so messed up they would probably be tweeting their drug dealers to meet them outside the stadium in parking lot C..
    Ricky waters would have been awesome, his wife too. She was out of her mind..
    Bill romanowski would be arrested for cyber hate crimes

  651. 651 daveH said at 5:26 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    andy reid’s sons would have been tweeting drug orders and gun orders and “ill drive you over in the bmw my daddy bought me” …

  652. 652 wee2424 said at 5:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    TO would have been the worst Eagles tweets ever.

    Andrews would be a mixture of penguin and really depressing things.

  653. 653 Bert's Bells said at 3:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    With you 100% on McCoy.

  654. 654 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:59 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Is an amazing case study in group denial and misinterpreting information to match the individuals beliefs and hopes.

    The report is damning, the evidence is very strong and the Pats did not full cooperate with the investigation, but because the report uses standard language for the burden of proof for a non criminal investigation it is a smear campaign by the NFL.

  655. 655 peteike said at 3:14 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I wouldnt call that a smear campaign at all, more like a public PR campaign. They have to investigate after all. Let the minimum wage guys take the fall, use vague wording to deflect blame to any big names and try to avoid the scrutiny of the refs and lack of oversight on the balls in general.

  656. 656 ICDogg said at 3:52 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’ve seen the needle and the damage done

  657. 657 P_P_K said at 4:00 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Hall of Fame post!

  658. 658 A Roy said at 6:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Excellent. ..

  659. 659 SteveH said at 4:52 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The power of denial in general is staggering, even in individuals who are supposedly “intelligent”. That’s how you get guys from MIT performing math equations that supposedly exonerate the Pats.

    The strangest thing is that they aren’t even rabidly defending the Pats from the perspective that it mattered for their super bowl victory, they’re in denial over Tom Brady’s character.

    I think some people bought in a little too hard on the myth of the “Patriot Way”. Also known as some self-righteous bullshit.

  660. 660 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Oh this is awesome… These slimed scumbags are def getting punished. The NFL has no choice, text messages were pretty damning and the NFL has no choice after punishing the Browns for texting during games and punishing Te Falcons for fake crowd noise… Two equipment managers are getting fired, but Brady is def getting hit with something. One of the equipment guys hates Brady. He talked ish about him in all the texts, allegedly Brady was trading autographs for favors from the equipment staffs. The one guy is caught in an email calling himself the deflator and mentioned that he was already thinking speaking out to ESPN about it..
    If Troy Vincent doesn’t drop the hammer he should never be allowed in philky again

  661. 661 Bert's Bells said at 3:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Uh, it’s the job of the Player’s Association to defend the players not issue punishments.

  662. 662 laeagle said at 4:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Troy works for the league now.

  663. 663 Bert's Bells said at 4:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:


    I take it back. LEnnie Small has a point for once.

  664. 664 BC1968 said at 4:09 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    This pains me to say but he’s not in charge of defending the players anymore. He’s recently been named NFL executive vice president of football operations by Goodell. He will oversee all aspects of football operations in the league office with a focus on quality and innovation. His responsibilities will include officiating, integrity of the game,
    on-field discipline, game operations, player personnel, and college
    relations. Sounds like he switched sides. Ughh, I’m sorry

  665. 665 unhinged said at 3:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Having only just read the latest comments by LeSean McCoy, I am reminded of the coach’s class when discussing ANY player. McCoy is a hell of a running back, and apparently a tad moronic. If he thinks that ANYbody who pays the slightest attention to the words and actions of Chip Kelly will be persuaded to believe the garbage that he is pedaling, he is very mistaken. I had no idea that McCoy was so emotionally stunted.

  666. 666 wee2424 said at 4:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    There have been times other then this racism thing with Kelly that he has acted immature over the years as well.

    His maturity may have been one of the contributing factors as to why he was traded.

  667. 667 Jernst said at 4:18 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The bottom line with the Patriots and the deflate-gate scandal is this…they can try to pass it off on the ball guy or any other low level equipment guy, but it would be completely absurd to think that any of these guys would just think to deflate the balls on their own and then procede to do so without direction from Brady/Belichick. No reason to break the rule unless it gives you an advantage and no way they’d know it was an advantage unless Brady told them so.

  668. 668 GEAGLE said at 4:34 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    There is no passing this on, they are done. Brady is getting suspended, there is no weasel out of this one. Brady made the cardinal sin, not admitting it right away and now he is caught covering it up and impeding the investigation refusing to give up his phone or emails..
    Brady claimed he never talked to these two, yet the 3 days after the accusation he was on the phone with them for hours using his own phone,. Not very smart, someone slept thru “coverup 101”
    Basically the one ball boy didn’t like Brady because he paid the other cheating ball boy more are he would threaten that if Brady didn’t have cash and new shoes “the ball would look like a ruby ball or watermelon”.. Lol instead of just defaulting the balls this cheating scum is threatening to over inflate them.. He called himself the deflator in text… Tom Brady is getting suspended.. No way around it. When you get caught covering it up it makes it worse
    NFL policy is to judge this on a legal term that means they need to meet the criteria of 51% likely of guilt which is why the words “more likely then not” keep popping up in the wells report, because the criteria they have to meet is so low by league standards that he is done!! No wiggle room out of this one.. Bellichej and the owner will be ok, but Brady is getting suspended and the two equipment managers are getting fired..
    The ball boys talked so much crap about Tom in the texts, he must be so annoying continuously bitching about ball pressure. Trading his autograph and free shoes and money for deflating favors, what a cheater and he tried to cover it up.. SUSPENDED!!!!
    When do we play the Pats? lol any chance he still suspended that week? 13 week suspension? Lol

  669. 669 Jernst said at 4:26 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Pete Rose wasn’t Hall of Fame eligible for decades because he bet on other teams in Baseball. Brady should be barred from the Hall indefinitely, because his infraction is much worse I think. He’s actively cheating to gain an advantage in games he’s playing in.

  670. 670 peteike said at 4:31 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    but theres no definitive proof that they were asked to deflate below the standard or that the balls were actually below. The league didnt put any effort into oversight on the balls either. Thats why all the language is vague in the report and per it not being criminal of course. Im not one to defend them, just saying what you want to happen will never happen.

  671. 671 P_P_K said at 5:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    They did it, everyone knows they did it, and the report all but comes out and screams “They did it!” Wells was smart enough, though, to recognize he didn’t have definitive proof so he used appropriate language to prevent Kraft from mounting a legal attack.

  672. 672 sonofdman said at 6:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    There was evidence that they deflated the balls after they were checked by the officials. That is illegal itself.

  673. 673 BobSmith77 said at 4:38 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Sorry but this is a really poor analogy. ‘Cheating’ has always been tolerated to a degree in baseball including stealing signs and even doctoring the ball within reason.

    The issue with Rose was simple – he bet on baseball games while he was a manager and there were strong indications he bet on Reds’ games too. There was never a ‘smoking gun’ that Rose intentionally tanked a game to win a bet but that is the reason he was banned.

    If Brady was found out to have bet and bet on Pats’ games, then it would be an appropriate analogy.

  674. 674 SteveH said at 4:46 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Baseball has a weird relationship with cheating. It’s strange the things they tolerate and the things that get you banned for life.

  675. 675 peteike said at 5:17 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    a league full of “unwritten rules” that nobody fully understand

  676. 676 daveH said at 5:28 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    join the discussion

  677. 677 ICDogg said at 5:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It dates back to the Black Sox scandal which could have destroyed professional baseball.

  678. 678 Jernst said at 10:36 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    You’re right. But completely off base analogy aside I think we can all agree that Brady and Belichick should be banned from the NFL, Flayed of their skin and left tied to a stake to be eaten alive by wild ravenous badgers for their crimes.

    Sorry, I’m still not over Super Bowl 39. Lots of reasons we lost that game, but the two second half drives where brady called out our blitzes and every third down and they miraculously had the perfect screen called against our blitz had a big effect as well. I think I might be letting the repressed emotions from that game effect my judgement.

    Also, it’s one thing for the guy on second to try to pick up on the catchers signals or for the players or coaches to notice that a certain sign from the third base coach indicates a steal, it’s another thing to have an employee who’s job is to film the catcher during the first three innings, break down the signs and then Bluetooth in the upcoming pitch to every batter so they always know what’s coming. It’s one thing to scuff up the ball a little bit or put some grease on the brim of your hat, it’s another thing entirely to cork a bat or change out the ball to one that has a different weight or size. The Patriots are cheaters. I hope they get punished severely. This is the second time they’ve been caught. If a grown man having a cocktail on a plane after the season damages the league image enough that he gets a year long suspension since its a second offense, what’s the appropriate punishment for being caught cheating in the playoffs for the second time?

  679. 679 Mitchell said at 4:41 PM on May 6th, 2015:
    Real nice clip of Rowe’s footwork. Should be able to stick with those WR’s real easy!

  680. 680 GEAGLE said at 5:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Kid has a chance to be one of the best DBs to come out of the past few drafts..
    Need Bennie Logan to recruit Lael Collins better then Odell Beckham does, because I’ll be sick if those dirty Giants get Collins for Cheap after already adding Flowers to their OL..
    Lael Collins can’t end up a Giant! Maybe Jason Peters needs to pick up the phone and tell the young man to come learn from the best…
    Miami has Two Longterm tackles.. By the time Collins will be Needd to be paid as a tackle, we will need to replace Jason Peters,l he can learn from his idol and then replace him…come on Bennie, Peters, Chip and Stoutland,… Get Lael in philly!!!

  681. 681 A_T_G said at 4:42 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    To me, the most disturbing thing in all this Patriots stuff is that it becomes clear that journalists are of the opinion that there has only ever been one scandal in American History.

    Spygate, now Deflategate? Really?

    No Deflator on the grassy knoll? No Deflated Harbor? No Bay of Soft Pigskins? Come on.

  682. 682 Bert's Bells said at 5:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I call it the Deflatepot Dome Scandal.

  683. 683 sonofdman said at 6:21 PM on May 6th, 2015:


  684. 684 A_T_G said at 4:47 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    In terms of punishing Brady, can they just suspend him for PEDs like they do for the rest of the guys with shriveled balls?

  685. 685 P_P_K said at 5:18 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Funny enough to warrant even more than an ^ if we had such an option. Well done.

  686. 686 GermanEagle said at 5:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Post of the day.

  687. 687 Bert's Bells said at 4:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The only fair thing would be to suspend Brady for week 13 and leave it at that.

  688. 688 SteveH said at 4:54 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Hear hear. It’s the only fair thing to do.

  689. 689 Nailed it! said at 4:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Send the memo to Goodell

  690. 690 Greg Richards said at 5:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Plus, the Pats have to forfeit their 2016 1st round pick to the Eagles.

  691. 691 sonofdman said at 6:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Now I wish we had the pats week 1.

  692. 692 Bert's Bells said at 6:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’d be surprised if Brady sits Week 1. It’s the kickoff game.

    They’ll suspend him, but he’ll be out on appeal at the start of the season. That’s my guess. But who knows?

  693. 693 sonofdman said at 6:26 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    You are probably right, but there is probably a better chance for him to be out week 1 than week 13.

  694. 694 MagLikesDraft said at 7:07 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    The only fair thing would be to forfeit every game they won last season, as the report says there was an issue with the balls, via e-mail, earlier in the season. Take away those wins, they don’t even make the playoffs, let alone get into the super Bowl. Suspending a player for a couple of games or fining a billionaire owner means nothing. Take away the wins, the glory. That hurts.

  695. 695 Mitchell said at 5:09 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Interesting that as bad as Hicks was against Baylor, they never scored any points while he was on the field.

  696. 696 anon said at 5:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    “I feel he is equally racist to all races … which I guess would make him … not racist,” Herremans wrote.

  697. 697 ACViking said at 5:21 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    No one was a bigger hater than Lombardi.

    According to Jerry Kramer . . .

    “He treated us all like dogs.”

  698. 698 ICDogg said at 5:13 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Any news on La’el Imperial Aerosol Kid?

  699. 699 Jack Waggoner said at 5:15 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He wiped his gun
    He’s forgotten what he did.

  700. 700 ICDogg said at 5:45 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    and the lamb lies down on Broadway.

  701. 701 SteveH said at 5:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I got nothing for you on La’el Collins, but I just watched La’elnel Messi score 2 spectacular goals against Bayern Munich.

    Someone get me out of Brazil, pretty soon I’ll be calling it futbol instead of soccer.

  702. 702 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Barca’s front 3 are insane, prehaps the most tallented front 3 ever assembled – better than Eto/Ronaldinho/Messi in my opinion.

  703. 703 SteveH said at 6:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    They are devastating. Watching them play it just feels inevitable that they’re going to score, sooner or later. In fact its just felt inevitable that they’re going to win the whole thing for a while now. They’re too overwhelming.

  704. 704 GEAGLE said at 6:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I love what’s his name Cavani,,, that was my dude when he played for Naples.. Of course I’m impartial to “il l’unico”, “il princippe di Roma” Francesco Totti… Luca Toni and Cannavaro where bad add too… Of course the great GIGi Buffon.. I remember the “Maicon hysteria”.. He was jordan for a short time … I like alot of the Germans and Dutch too, but messi is just a treat to watch. Reminds me of maradonna minus all the coke… So many greats. Crazy that soccer isn’t popular in the USA

  705. 705 SteveH said at 7:12 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    USA has a strange soccer prejudice to get over. So many American sports fans still look down on soccer, I think because it’s one of the (maybe the only) major sport in the world where we just can’t compete on the national stage.

    It’s strange that we can’t too. I mean obviously most of the best athletes in this country get funneled into football or basketball, or even baseball, but we have 300 million + citizens in the country, and we can’t compete with countries with a fraction of that population.

    If it weren’t for Tim Howard’s heroics we would have been destroyed in the last world cup by Belgium. Belgium has a population of 11 million. We have 30 people for every 1 of theirs, and we weren’t even really all that competitive.

    Another interesting thing about USMNT is the delusional fans. It seems like most of the bigtime American soccer fans I meet seem to think we’re just so close to being a soccer powerhouse.

    I think Americans have a hard time accepting that sometimes the natural order of the world is that we’re pretty far down the food chain.

  706. 706 GEAGLE said at 7:42 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    We can’t compete because our kids grow up with too many options. For example I started playing soccer When I was 5 and I always loved it, but when we grow up loving soccer along the way, other sports will also get our attention. A lot of our kids grow up playing soccer and then after the season they play basketball and then after that season w play baseball.. Where as for example Italian kids they play soccer year round and they don’t have interest In like 5 other sports like our kids who grow up… I was born here but for my first 15 years I would spend June to end of August In Italy— and it was always weird to me how as a kid In Italy, I could never find a basketball court with other kids playing.. Here kids can go to any playground and find a basketball game, in Italy kids go to Parks and anywhere you go you can find a pickup soccer game… Think how practically impossible it is in America to go to a park looking for 10 kids to play a pickup soccer game?

    And the professional sport doesn’t work in the USA because they can’t figure out how to make enough money off of it, mainly because you can’t have television commercials which are a big part of all American sports..
    I don’t like MLS soccer but I always watch Italian, English, Spanish and champion league games

  707. 707 SteveH said at 7:48 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yeah the TV money is the whole business model here, without constant commercial breaks a sport won’t really be successful.

  708. 708 GermanEagle said at 5:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s football, mate.

  709. 709 SteveH said at 6:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Here in Brazil they actually pronounce it “Fuchebol” which surprised me. Portuguese is a tough language, much tougher than Spanish in my humble.

  710. 710 GEAGLE said at 6:14 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Love Portuguese language,. It is much tougher then Spanish but it’s a fun language when you get the hang of it. Obrigado a todos aqui..

  711. 711 SteveH said at 7:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’ve been here over 2 months now and I am still struggling with even some of the basic pronunciation.

    ão in particular is a bitch for me. I struggle to say não (no) which is about a simple a word as you could ask for.

    I do a lot better with the words that overlap at least a little with spanish since I already speak that. Portuguese is fun to listen to though, so I imagine it’s a treat to be able to speak it.

  712. 712 GEAGLE said at 7:32 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Like napao.. Big nose.. For me the tough part was like molto forte.. In italian or Spanish you pronounce it For-Teh , took a while to get used to the Portuguese pronounciation of For-Tch… It’s even harder for me because I never learned to write it.. Only speak it and the pronunciations are so unothodox. I learned to speak italian first, but once you speak it, it’s easy to read because of sounds how it’s spelled..but Portuguese is pronounced whacky… the “Ao” appears in my Italian name so that’s like the first thing I learned to pronounce. Born here but my parents taught me Italian first, figured I would be forced to learn English in kindergarten, so I always spoke Italian, but I didn’t learn to write it til later on, but it’s so easy

  713. 713 peteike said at 6:11 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    oh my, that third gif down, he just breaks that guys ankles

  714. 714 GEAGLE said at 6:13 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Messi is a treat to watch… It’s like jordan in his prime

  715. 715 Alistair Middlemiss said at 5:37 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Nothing is going to happen until legal situation resolves itself more – and we have #Deflategate frenzy to occupy the press today, so no new news.

  716. 716 Insomniac said at 5:48 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    What came to light yesterday.

    Collins planned to go to that Pelicans game ahead of time.
    He has texts, emails, and GPS records to back up his want to go to said game (no ticket though?).
    Sean Payton viewed him as a guard and dominant player.

    “We had a really good grade on Collins,” Payton said Thursday night. “Teams are projecting him at tackle and guard, and our projection with him is as a guard. I think he’s a very dominant player, physical.”

  717. 717 ICDogg said at 5:58 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    So exactly where would they bring him in as a tackle? Dolphins, maybe? I’ll bet they’d rather have him at guard, too, though.

  718. 718 Insomniac said at 6:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    My guess is a team that still runs man blocking schemes and I can’t think of any.

  719. 719 GEAGLE said at 6:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Dolphins have two new tackles of the future, Brandon Albert and Juwan James,, hopefully ODB doesn’t talk him into the Giants.. He doesn’t have to play tackle next year he needs to go to a team that will want to pay him to play tackle when it’s time to extend him.. So he needs to go aomewhere with an older Tackle who only has two, three years left cough
    Cough Peters.. The position he plays the next two years won’t keep him fro
    Being paid as a tackle when he becomes a free agent. It’s about him being paid as a tackle on his 2nd contract

  720. 720 MagLikesDraft said at 7:03 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Bennie Logan, former teammate also courting him. Perhaps. Hints on Twitter. Just hints.

  721. 721 A_T_G said at 6:10 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Honestly, I think not having tickets adds to credibility. If you were building a alibi intentionally, you would save the stubs. If you were just out for the evening, you might not.

  722. 722 unhinged said at 5:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Did Chip elaborate at all when he said that La’el Collins wasn’t on the Eagles Board? Is he not interested in signing him?

  723. 723 Mitchell said at 5:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Had to leave this comment because I don’t like there being 6– comments. I’m #667. On another note I think Hicks looked pretty decent against Kansas as well. Perhaps the most stacking and shedding he did in any tapes. Encouraging to see for sure.

  724. 724 Insomniac said at 5:48 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He needs to add muscle. He needs to be around 245-250 before the season starts.

  725. 725 Mitchell said at 6:44 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He just needs weight in general. Hopefully with Chips diet and some technique work, he will be much improved come September.

  726. 726 anon said at 6:46 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    put him on the lane/knott diet he can eat the suspension he won’t be playing anyway.

  727. 727 Mitchell said at 7:06 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Actually sounds like a great plan lol.

  728. 728 MagLikesDraft said at 7:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Lambert only weighed 205 pounds when he was drafted. Gained about 20. Worked for him.

  729. 729 D3FB said at 10:52 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He’s bigger and taller than Eric Kendricks. His weight isn’t that big a deal. He’ll naturally add muscle over the next couple of offseasons but his strength is functional especially considering he probably won’t run with the 2s until later in camp or into the season.

  730. 730 Insomniac said at 11:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I actually see him running with the 2s at the start of camp. There’s not really an emphasis in rushing back Kiko and Demeco. Hicks will be going up against some big strong dudes in the division so it’ll be quite beneficial if he adds some muscle though.

  731. 731 botto said at 5:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    speaking of race, Desean Jackson did end up on the redskins.
    so how do they get away with that BS now?
    meanwhile shady is in the great white north playing on a team who’s emblem is representative of an animal wiped out for purposes of genocide of a particular race…
    and furthermore, ahh forget it who cares.
    how many of the best players on any team are white anyway?
    a few Qbs, gronk, Cody Parkey,

  732. 732 Insomniac said at 6:05 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Clay Matthews
    Jordy Nelson
    JJ Watt

    adding a few more names.

  733. 733 sonofdman said at 6:16 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Casey Matthews!

  734. 734 Insomniac said at 6:20 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    A legend in the pee wee leagues.

  735. 735 EagleNebula said at 7:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I hear he throws a mean dinner party – a conversationalist like no other!

  736. 736 Bert's Bells said at 6:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    upvote for Parkey

  737. 737 ICDogg said at 6:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I can only say that we’ve heard in the past about certain black players saying certain other black players weren’t “black enough”. Like when T.O. called McNabb a “company man”. So there may be some reading between the lines required when interpreting what he meant as the “best black players”.

  738. 738 botto said at 6:27 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    you think he means the best and blackest?

  739. 739 ICDogg said at 6:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Something like that.

  740. 740 Avery Greene said at 6:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    So then he’s saying Cox, Kendricks, Jenkins, Thornton, Logan, and a bunch of other black players can’t be considered best because they don’t have offensive stats?

    The more he (and SAS for that matter) opens his mouth, the angrier I get. Also, everyone seems to forget that it looks like Shady has 1) lost a step and 2) runs E-W too much. So on top of not giving CK what he wants, he’s a diva and he’s easily showing why getting rid of him was a good decision.

  741. 741 MagLikesDraft said at 6:59 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Not new. Right in Philadelphia.

  742. 742 peteike said at 6:08 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    someone needs to photoshop Brady with a deflated lombardi, cmon people, get on that

  743. 743 MagLikesDraft said at 6:57 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    There is this:

  744. 744 GEAGLE said at 6:23 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Holly crap, Ertz just said “I have played with Luck, Foles and I can honestly say I never played with a QB of the arm strength of Sam,, he has been throwing with us for the past 3 weeks and his arm is a lot of fun to play with”-Ertz
    People don’t want to acknowledge it but sam is the most talented QB chip ever worked with, keep him up right and he will be surgical back in the shotgun 1 read offense.. So hype for the Bradford era. Kid has more upside then even Donovan,..

  745. 745 ICDogg said at 6:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Vick’s arm had to be stronger than Bradford’s

  746. 746 Bert's Bells said at 6:26 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Ertz only counts white QBs. #kkkulture

  747. 747 botto said at 6:28 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    look out! that’s classic

  748. 748 GEAGLE said at 6:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    He might have mentioned Vick too. He marveled at Bradforda arm talent since he isn’t even able to put his entire body Into his throws yet, but nice that he has already been throwing to receivers for the past 3 weeks

  749. 749 Insomniac said at 6:25 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Did he forget about Vick?

  750. 750 Alistair Middlemiss said at 6:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Sam has the best throwing motion i have ever seen. Seriously its a silky smooth, fast and compact with huge power and accuracy. If you were wanting to design a throw it would pretty much look like that.

    Health (less of an issue than people make out) and intangibles are the issues for me. He comes up small when i have watched him – not taking risks when he needs to, not taking responsibility to win a game. Now maybe that is all on the Rams, and things should be be better in Chips offence with easier reads, but i want to see him 10 points down with 5 minutes left in the game and go out and win from there – I felt Foles could do that…

    Health thing i am not so concerned about – ACL tears are freakish, and obviously his first surgery had a minor flaw but generally each tear comes back stronger post surgery and damaging it a 3rd time is almost unheard of.

  751. 751 wee2424 said at 6:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I think alot of the issues he had that you mentioned were due to a weak supporting cast. In 2013 he put up very good numbers before he got hurt, but his receivers had an almost historic drop percentage.

    After getting sacked constantly he was probably nervous about waiting that extra second to throw the game changing deep ball.

    His release time from snap to throw is like 2.70 which is very good. However he was still getting sacked alot. It just shows how poor his supporting cast was.

  752. 752 MagLikesDraft said at 6:53 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Here’s some info about ACLs

  753. 753 SteveH said at 7:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Amazing how fast people turned on to Sam Bradford. A few offseason throwing sessions, a few highlight reels, and we’re full steam ahead on the Sam Bradford super bowl express.

    I’m not saying he’s going to suck, I’m just saying I’m going to go ahead and wait to rewrite his history book until he’s played a few actual games.

  754. 754 A_T_G said at 7:10 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    That is because you are trying to apply rational thought, instead of narrating your journey through the grief stages.

    1. There is no way Chip is trading Foles. Foles is a lock.
    2. Chip is a moron. Worst GM ever.
    3. Do what you want, just don’t trade Cox, that is all I ask.
    4. Oh, woe is me. Chip is going to gut this team to get his pet.
    5. Bradford is the man.

  755. 755 SteveH said at 7:17 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Haha, or how about:

    1. There’s no way Chip would have any interest in Bradford, that’s laughable. Journalists who are reporting this interesting are fucking hacks.
    3. Well, this is a salary dump scenario like they do in the NBA, we’re getting the Rams 1st to move up for Mariota right? So that’s a good move even if we lose Foles.
    4. … We gave up more than we got to get Bradford? … I think I’m going to jump off a bridge somewhere.
    5. Chip and the Eagles are actually geniuses and are much smarter than anyone else in the league, that’s why they were willing to give up so much to get Bradford.

  756. 756 Mitchell said at 7:21 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    This whole scenario seems extremely familiar.

  757. 757 mksp said at 7:31 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    #1 is actually “No Way chip trades Nick “Rainmaker” FOles, yous guys are all donkeys just like the media.”

  758. 758 D3FB said at 10:47 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    But if you say Sam Bradford is awesome enough that means you personaLLy cAUsed it to HAPenN. RIght?

  759. 759 SteveH said at 7:39 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Also, I should add that it’s always funnier when stage 5 is less like acceptance and more like delusion.

  760. 760 FairOaks said at 7:43 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    It’s also the only way we will enjoy this season — if Bradford is good. If he is bad or injured, we are then among the teams searching for a QB. So… we are now looking for any reason to solidify that Bradford hope.

  761. 761 anon said at 10:51 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    or if Foles lights it up in STL or the Titans go deep into the playoffs and Mariota looks likey Peyton.

  762. 762 D3FB said at 11:04 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I still think St. Louis should have a footrace between Foles and Mannion before the beginning of every game. Winner starts.

  763. 763 Baloophi said at 1:22 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    Better start it on Friday then…

  764. 764 GEAGLE said at 7:47 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I actuly haven’t heard too many bradford fans.. Most fans I hear think we are doomed because they actually thought chip was an idiot who would trade farm for a college kid.. I haven’t heard media and fans on board the sam train yet..
    I don’t think his talents ever been In question, it’s an injury issue.. And anyone who saw bradford in college knows how similar a lot of it was to what chip will ask him. He is more prepared to play in chips shotgun tempo then foles was when he first started learning the offense.
    I do wonder how I would feel about having Sam if chip wasn’t our Coach. Think he wouldn’t be half as attractive in a pro style. Not that he doesn’t have the tools for pro style, but we know chip will help him more then fisher ever did
    Chip is right, no one will give us a top 5 QB with no risk involved.. Injury risk like Bradford or screw up like Cutler are the only QBs teams Will trade. We need to hope chip is that much better then the coach the struggles with before we got them… I’d rather have an Injury question like Sam, then a brain question like cutler
    .. And if Sam does t work out we go after Phillip rivers or Foles in free agency next year lol

  765. 765 botto said at 7:47 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    nah don’t wait rewrite the history books now.

  766. 766 GEAGLE said at 7:59 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    In crayon

  767. 767 Insomniac said at 8:05 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    with Jimmy K as the artist.

  768. 768 Jernst said at 10:51 AM on May 7th, 2015:

    For me, I honestly just never paid attention to his career in St Louis. Team always sucks and the general impression that was out there was that he was a real disappointment and a total bust. When I first heard we traded for him I thought we were just taking on his contract as a gift to the Rams for allowing us to exchange 1st round picks. But, after watching his tape and hearing the whole story I felt a lot better about his skill and potential. Still nervous as hell about his injury history, but I’d be more inclined to grade his career as incomplete with tremendous upside now rather than as an out and out bust.

  769. 769 SteveH said at 7:24 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    This deflategate thing keeps getting better:

    I hope Brady’s reputation is dragged through the mud and back again after this whole thing is over.

    Yes, I’m aware I’m being petty.

  770. 770 Insomniac said at 8:01 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Peyton >>>> Brady

  771. 771 GermanEagle said at 7:49 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I am wearing my Star Wars gown on the terrace and a young guy was just trying to convert me to church.

  772. 772 Mitchell said at 7:52 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Are you drinking again?

  773. 773 GermanEagle said at 7:53 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Yes. It’s hump day after all.

  774. 774 GermanEagle said at 8:17 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    I’ve barely heard a song like ‘king kunta’ by Kendrick Lamar gaining so much momentum during the song. #ChipIsRacist

  775. 775 Flyin said at 8:30 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Do you guys think Josh Huff put on a little muscle this offseason?

  776. 776 Flyin said at 8:32 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    In Studio

  777. 777 Flyin said at 8:33 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    His arm is bigger than Dave’s head…

  778. 778 Will : C.R.E.A.M. said at 8:36 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Its been said he got stronger and more explosive this offseason

  779. 779 Flyin said at 8:54 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    Can’t wait to see him stiff arm guys into the stands this year.

  780. 780 Greg Richards said at 8:40 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    According to Josina Anderson, the paternity test on whether La’el Collins is the father of the deceased child came back and he was not her father. He also took an independent polygraph which supported his contention that he wasn’t involved in the mother’s death.

  781. 781 Insomniac said at 8:50 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    For like the 10134893 time, get him on the team Chipper.

    source for what Greg said

  782. 782 anon said at 8:56 PM on May 6th, 2015:

    ACV with the perfect prediction. Feel super bad for the dude.

  783. 783 Jonathan Grimshaw said at 7:16 PM on May 11th, 2015:

    What didn’t you see out Jordan Dewalt? This guy has a high motor, runs to the ball wherever it is, throws his body around, has instincts to find the ball, and has array of pass rushing moves with good hands. I think his only issue is he has could bulk up some and has to work his coverage skills. I see this guy making the squad practice or otherwise.