Meet Stephen Morris

Posted: September 7th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 227 Comments »

The Eagles claimed QB Stephen Morris off waivers from the Jaguars. That’s the 3-13 Jaguars who had the lowest scoring offense in the NFL. They were all the way up at 31st in yards, so we have to give them credit for that.

Just what the heck were the Eagles thinking?

This is the mentality I’ve encountered from a few people. And I can see where they are coming from. But this is where context is so crucial.

The Jags only kept two QBs on the roster last year. They had Morris on their practice squad. They only have two QBs on the roster this year. I think Morris would have been their choice for the practice squad, but the Eagles claimed him, preventing that from happening.

Morris will be the #3 QB in Philly. He was going to be the #3 QB in Jacksonville. The difference is that the Eagles keep the #3 QB on the roster. The Jags take the risk of having that QB on the practice squad, where the other 31 teams can sign him (or try to sign him).

This isn’t the Eagles turning to Jacksonville to solve some key part of the offense. The Jags had a talented, but flawed young QB and they took a risk by cutting him. The Eagles grabbed him because they like his talent and his potential. Unless something goes very wrong, Morris will spend the year working in practice, but that’s it. He isn’t likely to see the field this season.

Back in 2000 the Eagles grabbed a rookie DT cut by the Cardinals, who were coming off a 6-10 season. That was Darwin Walker and he ended up starting in Philly for years. He only played in one game in 2000. He was a backup in 2001. He had a breakout season in 2002 and started for the next five seasons. Andy Reid saw a chance to add a young, talented player. He was patient and things worked out well. Thank god Reid didn’t have the mentality that “Some crappy team just cut that rookie so he must be a bum”.

We have no idea whether Morris will be in Philly for five weeks or five years. He might prove to be a disappointment very quickly. Or he might develop over time. History is filled with sure-thing QBs who failed and other guys who were initial failures that turned into something. Sometimes even great players.

Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers. He eventually signed with the Colts and went on to become arguably the greatest QB of all time. Lin Dawson was also cut by the Steelers. He led the Chiefs to a Super Bowl title. Kurt Warner tried out for the Packers in 1994, but got cut. He then played arena league football for two years. Warner impressed the Bears enough to get a tryout, but he was hurt and missed it. Eventually the Rams gave him a tryout in 1998 and signed him. The rest is history.

Guys like Unitas, Dawson and Warner are anomalies. Most guys who get cut don’t pan out. They were cut for a reason. Morris isn’t likely to develop into anything more than a backup, and even that is probably a long shot. The point is that you can’t simply say “This guy got cut by a crappy team. He stinks. What the heck were the Eagles thinking?”

Let’s talk about Morris. He was a 3-star recruit that went to Miami. He was a bit undersized coming out of high school, listing at 6-2, 186. He was considered a dual-threat QB, meaning he could run and throw. Morris got to Miami with a bit of a chip on his shoulder and worked hard to develop as a player.

He is now 6-2 and 215 pounds. He ran 4.63 at the Combine so he has good straight-ahead speed. Morris went to the Manning Passing Academy before his Senior season at Miami and won the skills competition. While there, he got the attention of some people.

Though NFL Network’s Mike Mayock called North Carolina’s Bryn Renner the most polished quarterback there, he said Morris was “the guy I really enjoy. He threw a beautiful football. He’s got a big arm. Stephen Morris has great mechanics. You can see he has really been developed well the last couple of years.”

NFL.com’s Bucky Brooks said Morris “might be the most talented quarterback in college football,” and that he “spins the ball with exceptional velocity and zip while showing a deft touch on intermediate and deep passes. Most impressively, he is deadly accurate, capable of making pinpoint throws to every area of the field. He displays terrific anticipation, awareness and timing in the pocket.”

UM coach Al Golden said Morris can throw the ball at least 65 yards in the air.

Earlier in his career, Morris was so unassuming that teammates couldn’t hear him in the huddle. He fixed that by practicing in the mirror. Now, “I watch Stephen talk and am amazed by his maturity,” Golden said.

Morris had an up and down career at Miami. He started five games in his first two years and showed real promise. He then started as a Junior and played very well. His Senior season did not go as hoped. Morris lost his offensive coordinator to the NFL. His top WR got hurt at midseason. So did his RB. Morris was dealing with some nagging injuries. He still put up okay numbers, but he just wasn’t impressive.

One thing that hurt Morris during his career was coaching changes. He played for three different OCs. Not only that, they had very different ideas. Mark Whipple was an older guy with an NFL background. Jedd Fisch was a young guy with a college and pro background. Finally there was James Coley, who came over from Florida State. System changes hurt a player’s ability to develop. Morris finished his career with 49 TDs, 30 INTs, 7896 yards and a completion percentage of 57.9. That’s a good college career, but nothing for the history books.

There were moments of greatness. Morris set the ACC record for passing yards in a game with 566. Check out the final play from that game.

This wasn’t the only 4th quarter, game winning TD of his career. Morris didn’t play on dominant Miami teams so he understands how to play in close game and to lead his team from behind.

Because of his inconsistent career and Senior season, Morris wasn’t drafted. He signed with the Jaguars, where he was reunited with Jedd Fisch, who had become the OC of the Jags.

Morris didn’t play much this preseason. The Jags have a young starter in Blake Bortles and he got a lot of action. Bortles threw more preseason passes than any other projected starter in the league. He threw 60 passes while Mark Sanchez and Sam Bradford combined for 61.

Morris did start the preseason finale and I was able to study that game. I came away impressed. Morris had good stats: 16-25-160 with a TD and no INTs. He had 3 passes dropped or those numbers would be even better. More important than the numbers, Morris passed the eye test.

Here are a couple of highlights from the game (beware the highly annoying volume).

Downfield throw

Short TD

Morris has a stronger arm than either Matt Barkley or Tim Tebow. He is a faster runner than either of them. Morris puts good velocity on his intermediate and downfield throws. He puts good touch on short passes. And he’s not afraid to hit his RBs and TEs. Barkley always seemed to want big plays. You can’t force the issue.

Mechanically, Morris is very sound. Natural QB. Has pretty good footwork. One of the things that really impressed me was his pocket presence. He stayed focused downfield, even with rushers closing in on him. It was hard to judge him as a decision-maker without seeing All-22 stuff and knowing the offense really well. He didn’t force the ball into coverage.

You can see where Chip Kelly would like Morris as a fit for the Eagles offense. He is a pocket-passer who can run when needed. Morris shows the ability to be a very accurate passer. There were some throws where his ball placement was outstanding. Consistency is the issue.

I would have preferred the Eagles sign Bryn Renner or Austin Davis because I’ve seen more of them. I know they have flaws, but also potential. Morris might be more physically gifted than them. And the one thing he does well that Kelly might covet is throw the ball down the field. Morris has a strong arm, but is also accurate with his deep balls. Kelly loves chunk plays. Morris averaged 8.3 yards per passing attempt in college.

You’ll see several deep balls in this highlight video.

The one thing I don’t know about is how Morris will handle the up-tempo pace. That seemed to bring out the worst in Barkley, who played in a pro style offense in college. Morris also played in pro style offenses so this is something that is a complete projection. Eagles OL coach Jeff Stoutland was at Miami when they recruited Morris and was on the staff for his first season. That hardly makes Stoutland an expert on Morris, but he at least has some knowledge of him and the kind of person/player he is. Joe Pannunzio, a member of the Eagles personnel department, is one of the men who helped recruit Morris. That’s another insider’s perspective.

Morris has a great opportunity. He is playing for an offensive guru in Kelly. He is part of a team that has a good OL and elite skill players. This is the best environment he’s been in for a while. It is up to Morris to show that he belongs.

* * * * *

Tim Tebow supporters are not happy at all. They don’t see how you could cut Tebow and then replace him with this “scrub”. Chip Kelly said it plain as day…Tebow wasn’t good enough. Simple as that.

Here’s the thing. Tebow is 28. He was drafted back in 2010. He has played in 35 NFL games, with 16 starts. Tebow has been part of five NFL Training Camps. He spent the past year working with a passing guru (Tom House).

And Tebow is still a project.

Tebow needs to play. Go get in the AFL or CFL and play. Games bring out the best in him. We all agree on that. Go play. Get more live reps. Maybe…maybe that will help him to make quicker decisions and improve as a passer. The biggest problem Tebow has right now is between his ears. He’s still mechanically awkward, but he’s improved in that area. Reading defenses and making quick decisions are his main issues now. On his two best throws in the Jets game, he was a second or so late in making the reads. That works against third stringers, but not starters.

Kelly gave Tebow a great opportunity. No one else in the NFL had any interest. Tebow did show progress as a passer, but not enough to warrant a roster spot. With the amount of experience he has and work he’s put in, Tebow needs to be at a higher level right now.

Morris has a stronger arm, better mechanics and is a more gifted passer. He has potential that the Eagles will try to develop.

This isn’t anything personal against Tebow. He got a shot. He wasn’t good enough. OG John Moffitt had the same situation. Both guys are former starters that were out of the league and tried to come back. Both played their best in the Jets game. Both had good moments, but neither was good enough to earn a roster spot.

The Eagles kept young OL Josh Andrews over Moffitt. And they added Morris to replace Tebow. Youth and upside in both situations. That’s the NFL.

As for Barkley, things just didn’t click in Philly. The up-tempo wasn’t a good fit for him. And I think Barkley needs to look in the mirror and realize the glory days of high school and college are over. He always worked hard with the Eagles, but I don’t think he got the fact that he’s just not that good of a player.

Every summer Tom Brady sits down and reminds himself that he was a 6th round pick. He uses that to keep himself motivated. Barkley should develop the same kind of mentality. I don’t know that he’ll ever start in the league, but I could see him becoming an effective backup.

* * * * *

The Eagles play their season opener in one week. That means will start with some Falcons talk in a couple of days. Until then, why not read The Eagles Almanac.

Lots of great stuff Eagles info in one awesome bundle.  Fun for the whole family.

_


227 Comments on “Meet Stephen Morris”

  1. 1 Bert's Bells said at 12:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That Miami play is amazing. Thanks for that!

    Regarding Tebow, he’s had the opportunity to play in CFL or Arena for the past few years and has turned it down. That’s something that really bugs me about him. He wants the spotlight of the NFL -if it means sitting on a crappy pre-game show on ESPN 8: The Ocho or sending out a press release every time there’s a injury to a QB that’s what he’ll do.

  2. 2 TypicalDouche said at 1:00 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I like how he set his feet last second before heaving that 50 yard accurate bomb, impressive.

  3. 3 Media Mike said at 1:01 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    SOOOOOO important for QBs to pay attention to proper footwork when throwing after being on the move.

  4. 4 TypicalDouche said at 1:03 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    My point exactly Mike, he could have easily just thrown it hard while running but with the feet set the touch and accuracy really come to play.

  5. 5 Media Mike said at 1:07 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Which is why a maestro like Wilson keeps proving his mettle as a passer each and every year while guys like Kaep and Newton keep diminishing as passers.

  6. 6 TypicalDouche said at 1:11 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Yea you can only rely on athletic abilities for so long, eventually you must accept and start paying much attention to footwork.

  7. 7 Media Mike said at 2:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That is the main thing that I was so upset that Reid never found the right combination of coaching/coaches to fix in McNabb. McNabb was so smart at avoiding INTs and making smart selections on when to run / pass fro his entire career, but he could never get his footwork on the move down well enough to improve his accuracy to the level that really would have made McNabb a HOF player.

  8. 8 short bus said at 6:31 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    McNabb’s Wonderlic was about one-fifth of Tebow’s. And Tebow’s wasn’t overly impressive – only about average. McNabb never would have survived Chip.

  9. 9 short bus said at 6:25 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Agreed. I like Tebow and I admire his diligence. But why not go the Doug Flutie route? Being of Canadian extraction myself, I think they’d adore him in Calgary or Ottawa.

    Arena football though? I think not. Would you?

  10. 10 Bert's Bells said at 6:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    He got straight up offers from the CFL which he turned down to do ESPN.

    This was a couple years ago, so maybe his priorities have changed.

  11. 11 Media Mike said at 6:30 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    One would hope.

  12. 12 short bus said at 6:40 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Timmy ought to re-up his passport this week and give it another chance. It’s his own fault if he doesn’t. Does anyone think less of Flutie?

    The CFL season in well underway and Saskatchewan could use some serious help at this point.

  13. 13 MagsDogDays said at 6:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Calgary and Ottawa need quick-thinking QBs just like everybody else.

  14. 14 short bus said at 6:37 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Saskatchewan, then. Not terribly bright or quick-thinking in those parts. /s

  15. 15 Charlie Kelly said at 12:47 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I dont think the CFL is good for tebow. Its a different game up there, but yeah if he wants to continue playing thats what he has to do.

  16. 16 MagsDogDays said at 6:16 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    The CFL is a professional league, full of coaches, GMs and players trying to make a living. There are only 3 downs and a wider, longer field. CFL teams want QBs who can make quick reads and decisions and can pass 50 yards downfield when necessary. Just like the NFL. Judging by the few QBs who seem to keep playing for years, the CFL has just as much difficulty finding new QBs also.

  17. 17 Charlie Kelly said at 12:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I like morris, but i would of rather have gotten Josh Johnson. But i guess chip wanted a younger developmental guy back there. My guess is they bring morris in see what he made of, and if they are.. meh.. on him after that they bring in a vet and dont have to guarantee his salary for the season.

  18. 18 Media Mike said at 12:50 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Johnson runs too much.

  19. 19 Charlie Kelly said at 12:52 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    and? lol he runs when its needed. He was moving the chains. hed be a great fit in the offense.

  20. 20 Media Mike said at 12:52 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I’m not into the “Chip needs a running QB” deal. I’d rather have Morris. The running almost always take away from a greater total of yards that could be gained by passing.

  21. 21 Charlie Kelly said at 1:01 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Im not into it either. Josh can throw the ball. If he can pick up a 1st down on 3rd down running it and theres no one open.. nice. Thats more strain a defense.

  22. 22 Media Mike said at 1:02 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    As a last resort, sure. I just don’t care for Johnson’s tendency to run prior to it being absolutely needed.

  23. 23 OregonDucker said at 1:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Correct again MM.

  24. 24 bubqr said at 1:16 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I’ve been on the Josh Johnson bandwagon for a while, thought he was a sleeper whgen he came out (5th rounder IIRC). Always wanted the Eagles to get him. Now, it must be a bit late…

  25. 25 shah8 said at 2:16 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Josh Johnson is not very good.

  26. 26 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    He is no joe Webb of course,..

  27. 27 Media Mike said at 12:50 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “Mechanically, Morris is very sound. Natural QB. Has pretty good footwork. One of the things that really impressed me was his pocket presence. He stayed focused downfield, even with rushers closing in on him. It was hard to judge him as a decision-maker without seeing All-22 stuff and knowing the offense really well. He didn’t force the ball into coverage.”

    This sells me on why you’d take a chance on teaching this guy. Nothing about him, in spite of his speed, screams “read one and run idiot.”

    I’ll take a dude with good footwork, a strong arm, good pocket presence, and fousing on passing downfield any day of the week.

  28. 28 Dragon_Eagle said at 12:54 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Agreed. There is something more to build on than just athleticism.

  29. 29 Media Mike said at 12:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “Athletic” is the absolute last trait a QB needs to have in high levels when looking at all of the needed traits for career long excellence as an NFL QB.

  30. 30 ACViking said at 1:28 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    T-Law:

    Your 2014 Senior Bowl observations on Morris, Logan Thomas, and Tajh Boyd foretold trouble for all three . . . and you were dead on:

    None of the North QBs were good. Logan Thomas, Stephen Morris and Tajh Boyd had a rough week. Boyd was the most disappointing since I actually had high hopes for him. Thomas was 4 for 5…but only for 9 yards. The man lives on short throws. And he was sacked 5 times. Some of that was blocking, but some on him.

    http://scoutsnotebook.com/2014/01/26/early-senior-bowl-review/

  31. 31 BlindChow said at 1:32 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Not sure if the fact there was no follow up sentence on Morris is a good or bad thing…

  32. 32 Tdoteaglefan said at 1:47 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    lol, I vaguely remember that Senior Bowl..the north looked Terrible on Offense. James white had the most receptions and Jacob Pederson had the most receiving yards.

    Morris’s line from that game as:

    Stephen Morris 10-18-2 89 0 25 0

    (10 for 18..2 interceptions, 89 yards, longest pass 25 yards, 0 sacks)

    he led all QB’s in yards, and had the best completion percentage but still nothing great.

    http://www.seniorbowl.com/pdf/news/2014_senior_bowl_game_stats_copy.pdf

  33. 33 Insomniac said at 2:06 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    This year was even worse.

  34. 34 wee2424 said at 3:37 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Before I read what you put in parenthesis I assumed you meant 2 TD. I was going to say it looks like he impressed untill I read the rest.

  35. 35 short bus said at 7:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Tommy seems to be accentuating the positive at this point – and placing trust (albeit guarded) in Chip.

    Five weeks in when Bradford blows his ACL and Sanchez can’t get out of his own way . . . maybe Tebow’s smile will shine in his rear-view mirror.

  36. 36 ACViking said at 1:37 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    T-Law:

    Following up on your references to John Unitas and Len Dawson:

    Not only did the Steelers draft and discard those two within 4 years of each other (’55 and ’59).

    The Steelers also sent Earl Morrall packing in 1957.

    The upshot? Those three QBs — Morrall, Dawson, Unitas — each started in consecutive SBs from 1968-70 (going 2-1).

    Pittsburgh made up for all their screw ups in the ’70s.

  37. 37 Media Mike said at 2:00 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    with more steroids than the average factory cattle farm.

  38. 38 TommyLawlor said at 2:58 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Never knew Morrall was a Steeler. They were an awful organization at that time. Amazing the impact Chuck Noll had.

  39. 39 MagsDogDays said at 6:11 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I’d love for NFL Films to do A Football Life on Noll. He was an amazing man.

    http://lancasteronline.com/sports/pittsburgh/steelers/commentary-remembering-chuck-noll-the-consummate-teacher/article_e7035372-fd9e-11e3-8e44-0017a43b2370.html

  40. 40 Media Mike said at 6:12 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And a top notch pharmacist.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/curtain-shame-steelers-dynasty-asterisk-juice-story-true-article-1.597935

  41. 41 MagsDogDays said at 6:22 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    From the article you referenced.:

    “Roger Staubach’s Cowboys lost two of those Super Bowls to the Steelers, but after learning of Haslett’s remarks, he was not declaring Dallas the uncrowned champion. “I’m sure that the ’70s had its steroid issues,” Staubach said. “I wasn’t aware of steroids back then. The Olympics recognized it years ago. The rest of sports did not. It haunts us now. We lost two tough games to the Steelers. (Lynn) Swann, (Terry) Bradshaw, (John) Stallworth – I don’t think they were on steroids. Jack Lambert was phenomenal and he weighed 220 pounds. He sure didn’t look like he was on steroids. Neither did Jack Ham nor Andy Russell.”

    I didn’t quote the other reference to half the league. At the time, of course, the damage done by steroids was not recognized. Odd that so many folks keep right on with the steroids or HGH even now.

  42. 42 Media Mike said at 6:27 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    A better few in that case.

    http://www.amazon.com/False-Glory-Steelers-Steroids-Courson/dp/0681411872

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3832996

    All in all the Steelers, and Pittsburgh sports fans in general, are vile and not worthy of any praise.

  43. 43 Joe Minx said at 1:48 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Only thing that would make the Eagles Almanac better is if it came with a free pudding cup.

  44. 44 P_P_K said at 2:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And a centerfold.

  45. 45 MagsDogDays said at 6:08 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Ah. Here’s one. I wonder what the less-tall guy on the end is searching for?

  46. 46 P_P_K said at 7:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I was thinking of Tommy, ‘Bama, and a couple of us. These guys pull off the fake satin way to well for us to compete.

  47. 47 Insomniac said at 2:13 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/9/7/9269333/eagles-draft-picks-philadelphia-2016-nfl-draft-selections-matt-barkley-trade-brandon-boykin-bradford

    Hmm I believe we’re going to finally get more OL depth next year with all those mid-late round picks.

  48. 48 Avery Greene said at 2:38 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Interesting. Should things play out, two 3rds and two 4ths can be nice. Or maybe he’ll package something to move up to the 2nd round, or further up from 32 in the 1st.

  49. 49 Bert's Bells said at 2:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Or flip all 4 for Mariotta!!!!!!!!!

  50. 50 wee2424 said at 3:33 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And I thought it was over…lol.

  51. 51 RogerPodacter said at 9:50 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    i don’t think it will ever end

  52. 52 wee2424 said at 3:32 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That’s what I think Chip may be stocking up for. There are alot of quality guards that can be found in the mid rounds. Who knows though, we have all thought things regarding Chips plan and we have all been wrong at least one point.

    I do think he may be forced to go OL next year.

  53. 53 ian_no_2 said at 2:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It was multiple sources that said they “had interest” in Ponder. The hold up may be that they don’t want him to get a vested veteran guarantee in which he would get his season salary if cut, since he’s played four years, so they have to wait til after the first game. Someone else may come through the wire during the season that they like better. Obviously if someone wants Ponder enough to ink him now (like the Browns and Davis) they can do so, and Morris in this scenario would be a pre-vested insurance policy making the minimum, selected over various choices for the role.

    Or maybe they decided they like Morris better, another possibility.

    I wasn’t saying in the last thread that I wanted Cassel. No, no. For some reason I feel better saying that. Orton was so much better.

  54. 54 Media Mike said at 2:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “Christian Ponder” is Seminole for “sucky dead end bum.”

  55. 55 ian_no_2 said at 3:45 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    They might also be eyeing a vested vet at another position which they can sign and then PS Morris.

  56. 56 Media Mike said at 3:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That could also work. Especially after week 1 ends.

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 2:27 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    After a summer of Barkley and TEBOW, I would be thrilled to add anyone as long as it means putting an end to their eagle career.. Thank you to chip for getting those two out of Philly..
    ..
    Would have prefered putting Morris on the Practice Squad, but they must have liked him to not risk losing him trying to get him on our PS…. Shame we didn’t have him for OTAs and the preseason instead of wasting time on two QBs who had no business wearing the midnight green..
    ..
    I look forward to having a #3 QB who this city won’t give a ton of attemtion to..
    ..
    I would have been happy to exchange TEBOW and Barkley for half the QBs that were available… This kid doesn’t have the name and Pedigree Barkley has, but he has more talent for our coaches to work with…
    ..
    A #3 with more Talent, and a 7th round pick instead of Barkley? Works for me…

    I can’t respect TEBOW if he isn’t willing to do whatever it takes to play in the NFL.. Kid has refused to change positions or go play QB in Canada, where as most fringe talents will run tnru walls to play in the NFL. I don’t expect TEBOW to go play in the CFL, but I would respect him a whole lot more if he did..
    ..
    Shame we wasted a summer on two Qbs chip probably knew werent going To be here in September, but at least the silly #3 QB talk is finally over. And I’m appreciative to no longer see Barkley and TEBOW representing the Eagles.
    ..
    Sure would be awesome if Palmer has a minor issue and has to miss a game or two forcing the Cardinals have to start Barkley against us later in the year.. To get to play against Barkley AND Bruce Arians… What a treat that would be,,

  58. 58 Media Mike said at 2:27 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    http://deadspin.com/high-school-football-players-target-light-up-poor-offi-1728999161

    Is it wrong if I want to know what the ref did to deserve this before I worry about judging the players for doing anything wrong?

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 2:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I assume you are talking about the “high/low” tag team assualt of that ref?
    ..
    The actions of the kids were obviously premeditated so it’s hard to imagined what a ref did to deserve being assualted like that

  60. 60 Media Mike said at 2:32 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Yeah, I don’t see how it isn’t assault…………..but part of me sees that type of thing as cathartic.

  61. 61 Insomniac said at 2:30 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    If it isn’t pedophilia then this is just wrong.

  62. 62 Media Mike said at 2:30 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Probably, but after being subjected to decades of bad officiating screwing teams I like in all sports, I’ve become far too jaded on the topic.

  63. 63 BlindChow said at 2:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    On the other hand, remember all the times fans of the other teams complained about calls that went your way. Now imagine players of that other team targeting an official to “discourage” such calls in the future…

    Those high school kids should be kicked off the team and not allowed to play football in that town again. Trying to physically intimidate an official to bend his rulings in your favor is reprehensible no matter what team you’re on.

  64. 64 P_P_K said at 2:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “reprehensible”
    Yes, that’s the most accurate term.

  65. 65 Media Mike said at 2:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I think you’re correct on a high school level where respect for one’s opponent, the officials, each other, etc. are important.

    But if we’re talking Eagles / Flyers / Sixers / Phillies / Union / any big 5 basketball team / Penn State football West Ham United

    then the refs suck and so do the fans of other teams.

  66. 66 Bert's Bells said at 2:59 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    You’re right to bring up the fact the high school sports are very much about character building.

    The whole program should be shut down for that play.

  67. 67 Media Mike said at 3:03 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    if the coach was in on it, sure. It reminds me of the Georgia pitcher / catcher combo that intentionally pegged the home plate ump with the ball due to a poor strike zone.

  68. 68 RogerPodacter said at 9:54 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    last i had read, the refs incorrectly ejected one of the wrong players. (got one right and one wrong). so, one of the offending players was left in the game by accident. later in the game (next play??) that same player got a 15 yard penalty for hitting the QB on a KNEEL.

  69. 69 xeynon said at 3:56 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    I’d go beyond that. I’d rattle a felony assault charge at the kids to scare them and the coach, if he was in on it, should go to jail. That referee could’ve literally been paralyzed or killed. It is beyond reprehensible.

  70. 70 D3FB said at 8:54 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    Mike is blowing pretty bubbles!

  71. 71 Media Mike said at 2:58 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And in a world where my favorite player is subject to this treatment at the hands of refs and the league office………

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/convicted-ref-donaghy-says-iverson-targeted-1.839107

  72. 72 unhinged said at 2:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Very wrong, MM. Whatever that guy did or did not do, the fact that he is working in a dangerous, violent environment does not negate the fact that he was assaulted.

  73. 73 Media Mike said at 2:40 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    You’re most likely correct, but I’d be lying if I didn’t find the whole thing to be entertaining on a theater of the absurd type level.

  74. 74 Bert's Bells said at 2:54 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    More like Theater of Cruelty.

    (+1 for putting that liberal arts degree to work, right?)

  75. 75 Media Mike said at 2:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Don’t care for college degrees Bert?

  76. 76 Bert's Bells said at 2:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Meant MY college liberal arts degree and the hat tip to Artaud.

  77. 77 Media Mike said at 2:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Indeed!

  78. 78 P_P_K said at 2:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    What those two players did was a cowardly act of petty violence. regardless of why, it was chickensh*t. My question is wether it was cooked up by the kids or came from a coach?

  79. 79 Media Mike said at 2:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    If you read the comments sections of the deadspin article, there is a good deal of discussion on that. I can’t imagine the coach would be that stupid.

  80. 80 P_P_K said at 2:59 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I only read the first dozen or so comments. I’ll dig deeper. Thanks.

  81. 81 Media Mike said at 3:01 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    There are like 900 of them, so I didn’t much further.

  82. 82 JoeBlow said at 3:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    well….My high school baseball coach gave some not so great advice one time. During the game there was a play at the plate where the runner (on my team) slid and then fell into the catcher, and the catcher took exception and there was a pushing match, mostly due to the emotion of the game. My teammate came back to the dugout heated and stayed that way the rest of the game. My genius of a coach told the 17 year old kid to “pop him” after the game in the handshake line….sure enough, he was behind me in the line and i could hear the punch connect. I felt pretty shitty afterwards because i shook the kids hand knowing what was possibly in store for him seconds later

    never seen an incident with an umpire/ref however

  83. 83 Media Mike said at 3:05 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That’s quite the instruction from a high school coach. If we’re talking my county of I’d expect that level of instruction from a head coach at Ridley or Interboro.

  84. 84 JoeBlow said at 3:06 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    ummmmmmm…..i went to ridley

  85. 85 Media Mike said at 3:07 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    I need to step away from the computer for a minute to go pick out some correct lottery numbers.

  86. 86 xeynon said at 3:47 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    Hah. I played against Ridley when I was in high school, and they were a bunch of punks. We had a great quarterback one season (he was about 6-2, 200, ran a 4.45 40, and was a division I recruit) and he got kicked out of the game in the first quarter because one of their players called him the N-word and he pushed the guy in response (the ref didn’t hear it, but several of our players who were nearby did). They ended up beating us by 3 points. We got the last laugh (beat Strath Haven to win the league title) but I never had any respect for Ridley after that. Got flagged for unnecessary roughness against them the next season for “finishing my block” with a little too much Jon Runyan-esque enthusiasm. Good times.

  87. 87 BlindChow said at 3:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It’s Texas. They take their high school football very seriously.

  88. 88 unhinged said at 3:23 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    NFL has had bounty issues, so stupidity clearly not a function of status.

  89. 89 MagsDogDays said at 6:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Those kids have heard all their lives that it’s okay to KILL anybody they don’t like, so a little assault on an official is minor. I’m sure nobody has ever told them that no matter how much they dislike an official’s call, somebody has to keep the game on track.

  90. 90 Media Mike said at 6:06 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    #Texaslogic

  91. 91 Bert's Bells said at 2:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    We’ll all get on board with this after we found out the guy is a Cowboys fan.

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 2:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And if the kids are as well……………..throw the book at them!

  93. 93 bushisamoron said at 2:33 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I have been following the Eagles for 40+ years. Big fan of the NFL as well and watch lots of games, listen to Sirius NFL constantly, read about and love college ball as well. I think that I know @1/1,000,000,000 of what Kelly knows about football (and that may be generous). If that’s the guy they think fits what they want to do best, so be it. Clearly Tebow and Barkley are not working out.

  94. 94 Media Mike said at 2:38 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Sirius NFL is awesome.

    My two favorite guys are Pat Kirwan and Ross Tucker.

    Least favorite: Bob Papa when paired with any other NYG affiliated piece of human shit like Toomer or Diehl.

    How about yours?

  95. 95 TommyLawlor said at 3:01 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Mike, do me a favor and tone down the rhetoric like the Toomer comment. We have a mixture of readers. Not everyone is keen on that language. Thanks,

  96. 96 Media Mike said at 3:02 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Done.

    On-line thesaurus engaged!

  97. 97 myartz04 said at 4:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I miss the duo of Tim and Pat.

  98. 98 Media Mike said at 5:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Tim Ryan was awesome. Jim Miller……………….is less so.

  99. 99 JoeBlow said at 5:16 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Listened to Tim Ryan last night on a replay of a Niner-Broncos preseason game….He was and still is great!

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    My favorite Tim Ryan moment is when Ray Edwards (former Vikings DE) was on with Tim and Pat talking about his boxing career, Ryan challenged him to a match, and Edwards totally punked out it.

  101. 101 xeynon said at 3:50 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    Yeah Tim Ryan reminds me a lot of Matt Millen (who was great as a color commentator if beyond lousy as a GM). Surprised he never became a bigger star.

  102. 102 unhinged said at 2:59 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Anybody watch Notre Dame v Texas? I knew before tuning in that Malik Zaire is athletic, but I was not expecting to see the poise in the pocket that this kid exhibited. He is a junior with very little starting experience, but he looked like he was as comfortable as Russell Wilson in the Rose Bowl. Cannot speak to the competition, but Charlie Strong is no slouch as a defense coach. One game does not a profile make, but he earned a good deal of attention off of that performance.

  103. 103 Media Mike said at 3:01 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Not related to your point, but Charlie Strong is the man. I have f-ing hated Texas every since dope Mack Brown kept benching my boy Major Applewhite in favor of bum Chris Simms, but Charlie Strong is running a great program. No toleration of legions of crimanoles and bums like at Florida State or Ohio State.

  104. 104 JoeBlow said at 3:14 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    he played a lot in last season’s bowl game against LSU. He displayed the same poise. He was splitting sanps with Everette Golson (now at FSU) but you could see the difference between the two in that game. Texas isn’t a good team at all, But Strong will turn them around…Lsu had it’s fair share of talent on the defensive side though and the kid played well against that defense for a true freshman

  105. 105 Ark87 said at 3:23 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Great stuff Tommy. I think it’s the right choice to churn the bottom of the roster, once you more or less have a player figured out and he isn’t good enough, churn in some unknowns with potential, figure them out, keep what you like, replace what you don’t, repeat. Morris should make next preseason more interesting.

  106. 106 Media Mike said at 3:24 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That dude up in Foxboro has done that for years. Solid thinking.

  107. 107 MagsDogDays said at 5:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Bill Walsh was widely disliked at one point for doing just that. Of course the 49ers continued to win for a couple more years so it was ultimately all good.

  108. 108 Greg Richards said at 3:31 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Totally off topic here, but a revelation came to me.

    We all know that Blandino’s ruling that a QB can be hit after clearly handing off the ball is unadulterated garbage(not looking to debate the specifics here, just work with me on this one!). So, what’s the first game of the season this year? New England versus Pittsburgh! Who happens to be playing in that game this year? Tom Brady! Do you think the NFL was unaware that they were on shaky legal standing going against a liberal judge in Deflate-gate? Of course not! But Goodell is going to get his “suspension” by hook or by crook. So when a not-at-all specifically directed by the NFL Pittsburgh defender launches into Brady’s knee 5 minutes after he’s handed off to Brandon Bolden(Blount’s suspended), it was by no means retribution by the league against Brady. I mean, come on, Blandino made the ruling that hits on QBs knees was legal, weeks ago, in an entirely unrelated game. No conspiracy here!

  109. 109 Media Mike said at 3:34 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Twitter
    Would
    Melt

  110. 110 Avery Greene said at 3:36 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Interesting theory and not all that unbelievable. They’ve painted themselves in a corner with this, and Ravens have the Broncos first game this season. Suggs is such a dirty player that he will go after Manning’s knees if he gets there around the handoff.

    Blandino should have been let go after partying on the bus with the ownership from the Cowboys. Goodell wouldn’t do that since owners and refs are subjected to the same “morality” rules that the players are.
    On another note, Goodell is a terrible commish and his final day can’t come soon enough.

  111. 111 RobNE said at 4:40 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I think Manning and Brady always will get those calls. The reasoning will be they don’t run option reads.

  112. 112 GEAGLE said at 5:53 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    GOODELL is a real coward! league Commissioner who doesn’t even have the Balls to do his duty as commissioner and show your face opening night in Foxborough? What a coward… And I don’t want to hear that bullshit that he doesn’t want to be a distraction To opening day, how convenient….. All the lead up will include GOODELL vs, Brady talk no matter if he watches the game at home, or in a luxury box in Gillette stadium,. coward!

  113. 113 Avery Greene said at 3:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Interesting point from Zach Berman.

    https://twitter.com/ZBerm/status/640940401633853440

  114. 114 Media Mike said at 3:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Shame they didn’t get to 18 via a cut / trade of Riley Cooper.

  115. 115 since1961 said at 3:43 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    So 17 new this year, 17 last, 20 in ’13 = 54 ‘new’. Obviously some of each year’s ‘new’ players are replacing ‘new’ players from the prior year(s). But if the quality of players on the roster is improving (we mostly all think it is) then continuing at the same high level three years running represents a lot of change.

  116. 116 Avery Greene said at 3:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    True, but some of those new players are players from the practice squad – those who are familiar with the system. But if the players are getting better (in turn the total roster) we should expect a larger win total this year + playoffs.

  117. 117 RobNE said at 3:47 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I think this is misleading. I just read on 538 that if you look at AAV or something like that, which I think is similar to WAR in baseball, then you would expect the Eagles to keep about 82% of their AAV but they only kept 68%. Just counting the number of players is highly misleading. New QB, new RB’s, missing their leading WR. That is huge turnover especially on a 10-6 team.

  118. 118 Avery Greene said at 3:50 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Yes. But I think that is misleading as well. Foles was not a good QB last year – if the new QB plays competently we win another 2 games last year. Also, McCoy and Murray’s running styles are totally different, and the more important stat is that McCoy led the league 2 years in a row with runs for losses. That translates to 2nd/3rd and long, which makes the offense way more predictable.

    So yeah, stats can be misleading but at the same time each one tells a different story. I’d take the new QB/RB combo this year than the one we had last year.

  119. 119 RobNE said at 3:53 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I agree I am on board for the changes. I love that good enough isn’t good enough for Chip.

  120. 120 Avery Greene said at 3:55 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Me too. Letting go of Tebow I think puts that in perspective. Media Mike had mentioned take a look at the guys you have, then if they aren’t good enough get rid of them and bring in another guy to give him a look.

    Chip is going to get us the ring, I just hope it starts this year.

  121. 121 Media Mike said at 4:00 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I can’t take credit for creating that logic, but thank you for the attribution.

  122. 122 BlindChow said at 3:50 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I wonder what the league average is.

  123. 123 Avery Greene said at 3:53 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Interesting question. Found a few interesting articles.

    NFL did one that measured turnover from 2011-2014.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000340908/article/which-teams-have-had-the-most-nfl-roster-turnover

    Some guy on reddit did something similar but it’s more updated from 2015. He measured average tenure on a team over the whole league.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/2wbcfr/roster_stability_in_todays_nfl/

  124. 124 Michael Winter Cho said at 4:05 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    This deals with the topic as well, and these guys are smart.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/2015-nfl-preview-the-cowboys-eagles-and-giants-look-good-compared-to-the-disaster-in-washington/

    Oops, Rob beat me to it!

  125. 125 RobNE said at 4:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    that’s ok GEAGLe responded as if he can’t bother to see what anyone else wrote, so I appreciate your comment.

  126. 126 GEAGLE said at 5:10 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Sorry, I rarely read your comments..

  127. 127 GEAGLE said at 4:34 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That’s a little misleading… While the amount of roster change ISNT very different from past years, we are going into this season inserting more NEW starters, then we did going into last year..
    ..
    Nolan, Thurmond, Maxwell, and BIGS, ROWE and RICE battling for Nickel, it’s a brand new secondary with Jenkins being the only DB who started in his current position for us last year.. BG and KIKO give us 2 new starters out of our 4 LBs, with the guys coming off the bench at OLB werent on the field for us last year.
    defensively the DL is the only unit where all the starters are getting continuity from last year… hart is the only new DL we are adding to the rotation.
    .
    Offensively we have a ton of change to the starting Lineup. new QB, Murray/Mathews at RB, Gardner Wasnt the opening day RG and Barbre wasn’t the opening day LG last year. Either Huff or Agholor will start opposite of Coop, both would be 1st year starters, and at some point they should start taking snaps from coop giving us two new starting outside,WRs

    The overall roster doesn’t have a crazy amount of change, but the starting Personel is very different then last year.. and most of the returning starters, find a new player lined up next to them…
    ..
    The is a much bigger,difference between this years team and last years team, then the Difference between 2013 and 2014 starying Eagles. Plenty of first time eagle starters, and not many of our returning starters, are lining up next to the same starter that was next to them last year.
    ..
    No matter how great or Bad it looks in Atlanta, we should be a drastically better team in December then what we see this month, health permitting of course..

  128. 128 mheil said at 8:19 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Add Johnson, who wasn’t the starting Rt tackle in game 1.

  129. 129 Bob Scatchard said at 3:54 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Nice article on MM’s favorite “whipping boy” from Roob at

    http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/riley-cooper-going-do-everything-keep-job-help-eagles

  130. 130 Media Mike said at 3:59 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Thank you for posting this.

    Roob is dope.

    “Is he overpaid? Sure. Blame former GM Howie Roseman for that. Was Cooper supposed to turn down an overly generous contract offer? Would you?”

    Is Rube aware this is why teams cut guys or go right at their necks for salary reductions that can help solved the “overpaid” part.

    Even with an ever expanding cap, sinking that level of cash into WR4 (or 5 or 6) is bad business.

  131. 131 iceberg584 said at 4:10 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Well in the spring of 2014, the thinking was that he was a perfectly cromulent WR2.

  132. 132 Mitchell said at 4:15 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Now hes just crum-ulent. *snickers while typing*

  133. 133 Media Mike said at 4:19 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    In the Spring of 2014 I was thinking I miss DeSean.

    and I still am.

    And can we redefine “Cromulent” as of or pertaining to objects and ideals of the faith of Conan?

  134. 134 Avery Greene said at 4:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    At the time he was our #3, projected to be our #2.

  135. 135 FairOaks said at 4:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It was a two year contract really at 5 mil per. For a wr2 not horrible. Mostly though he just got lucky — both he and Maclin were free agents and we were going to ditch desean (though nobody else knew that yet). So we were in real danger of basically having zero wrs on the roster. They were desperate to get them signed before desean was released. And based in 2013 they were fine with that money for one year at least. It has worked out badly but it hasn’t really hamstrung us at all and he’s gone after this year.

  136. 136 GEAGLE said at 4:19 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Relieved that Neither MS2 or Ertz needed to start the season on PUP.
    be great to see MS2 and ERTZ on the field Wednesday when we start preparing for the beating we are going to hand to the Falcons…
    ideally both MS2 and ERTZ have already been cleared to return and playing against Atlanta only comes down to if they are in game shape yet or not….Easier to live with those two missing the game because they aren’t in shape yet, then for them to miss the game because they still aren’t cleared to return..
    ,.
    Starting to feel antsy..you can tell its game week.. football is in the air.. fortunately this week should go by quickily, thanks to a Monday Holiday, Thursday patriots vs, Steelers. “psycho Tom” probably going to be a madman on Thursday, watch some college games, enjoy sunday football, and Monday will be here in no time, and we get to open the gates of hell onto the Falcons.. Doesn’t hurt that EuroBasket is keeping me busy…. This city is ready to explode so hopefully Monday night looks more like the 2013 opener, then the 2014 opener.. It would be very demoralizing to sit thru an opening night similar to last year, where the first half was a disaster, between players(OL) leaving with injury, our QB taking a beating which was the beginning of all the backpeddling and breakdowns in mechanics…. defense and Special teams had to bail us out in the 2nd half, it’s nice to see our ST have big impacts on our wins, but I don’t want t to see ST compensate for Offense or defense having a rough day.. I want to see us start the season with offense, Defense and ST all carrying their own weight.. when our offense, defense and ST all show up, we should be tôugh to beat…

  137. 137 Media Mike said at 4:21 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    The sooner both are back to full strength the better.

    Ertz is more a question of proper utilization (i.e. more than Celek and his 32/340/1 stat line) while Smith is one of needing to see growth on the field. I need Smith at 6 sacks minimum this year.

  138. 138 MagsDogDays said at 5:51 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Thornton, Fletcher and Barwin can have the sacks if Smith is credited with numerous tackles for loss and causing numerous fumbles.

  139. 139 TXEaglesFan said at 5:13 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Hey just a case of semantics, but the PUP list is only for players who started training camp on PUP list. Since both Smith and Ertz practiced in training camp they are not eligible for PUP list. There is also IR designated for return, but can only be used on one player, but then that player can’t play a game for 8 weeks after placed on the list. The Eagles used that on Mathis last year. I agree that nobody is on that list to start the season, means nobody is seriously injured. And it is still available if a quality player gets a moderate injury.

  140. 140 Bert's Bells said at 5:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Don’t feel bad correcting that know-it-all windbag.

    It’s a good point you’re making. Neither guy was in jeopardy of being sidelined for 8 weeks, there’s no reason to even discuss the possibility.

  141. 141 GEAGLE said at 5:58 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Obviously I was talking about the PUP that you return from because Im not mistaken, you can’t come back sooner from that. if they put you on that list and your recovery is better then expected you still have to sit out the full 8 weeks…. Since Chip went to the Bellicheat school of not being Transparant when it comes to injuries, and groins and sports hernias are tricky injuries I really didn’t trust the info chip gave us about Ertz, and im thrilled to see that he doesn’t need to go on the designated to return Pup… We will never get the injury truths from chip, he just pretends that he has no clue and sits around until a trainer can tell him a guy can play..

  142. 142 ACViking said at 6:24 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Smith II and Ertz were both ineligible for the PUP list.

    Once a player practices in preseason, that player become ineligible to be designated PUP under NFL rules — for both preseason and regular season PUP.

  143. 143 Avery Greene said at 4:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Fran Duffy has a piece up about Morris on pe.com.

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Eagle-Eye-How-QB-Morris-Fits-With-Eagles/10fadaec-1dfd-4692-8400-e19f39a10834

  144. 144 GEAGLE said at 4:52 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Lol. Why is lack of character usually displayed by the same dumb franchises?

    “Browns suspended OL coach Andy Moeller indefinitely for an incident that took place over Labor Day weekend. Moeller has a long history of drinking related issues and was suspended 2 games in 2011 by the Ravens when he coached their OL”-Roto
    ..
    So now the Browns OL coach gets to Join the Browns GM on the suspended list to start the season, SMH.. What a franchise.LOL

    This OL coach NEEDS to be punished accordingly… If a NFL player was suspended 2 games for alcohol, and in the future gets in trouble AGAIN for Alcohol, his punishment is probably going to be more sever then the first 2 game punishment,,, Coaches who are repeat offenders shouldn’t be treated any different then playërs…. But what do you expect when your franchise drafts Johnny Manziel in round 1, has its best player Josh Gordon missing entire seasons because of Pot, and has a GM so dysfunctional that the idiot is texting his HC play call advice during a game lol… I don’t understand how a franchise could be so dysfunctional for so long, yet it keeps getting worse and worse… I don’t know WTF they are doing in Cleveland, but they are completely hopeless until they sell the team and an owner with a clue buys it…

  145. 145 Avery Greene said at 4:58 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    And it still isn’t as bad as what’s going on in DC.

  146. 146 Media Mike said at 5:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Want to bet that there will be a story coming out of Oakland in the next day?

  147. 147 Avery Greene said at 5:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    LOL – or Dallas signing another criminal?

  148. 148 GEAGLE said at 5:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    This is the second time this OL coach has been suspended by a team for Alcohol related incidents.. At what point does it become Goodells responsibility to step in and punish a repeat offender? Or is the teams dealing with the OL coach enough, and Goodell shouldn’t interfer unless The OL coach gets in trouble with the Law?
    ..
    If a player gets a 2 game suspension for alcohol related incident, next time there is another alcohol related incident GOODELL steps in and you can bet your punishment will be bigger then the initial 2’game suspension… Shouldn’t coaches be held to high standards just like the players?

  149. 149 Avery Greene said at 5:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Absolutely, I was complaining about that earlier in this thread.

  150. 150 Bert's Bells said at 5:39 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It depends on the nature of the “alcohol related incident”.

    But it’s difficult to suspend an employee for alcohol problems. The Americans With Disabilities Act and the Family Medical Leave Act have very specific rules that govern this.

  151. 151 JoeBlow said at 5:51 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I saw a tweet from someone but i forget who, maybe Mike freeman of Bleacher Report, but it said this incident with Moeller “isn’t just a bad look for the Browns, but the entire NFL”….Some Cleveland reporters have said the Police were called for a domestic incident

  152. 152 GEAGLE said at 6:03 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Oh wow…. I haven’t seen any details about it.
    ..
    Is the beginning of each season going to be hijacked every season by trashy people who don’t know how to act?

  153. 153 Media Mike said at 6:03 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Giants fans have hijacked the start of the season?

  154. 154 GEAGLE said at 6:12 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Dirty Giant fans have their own problems.. Lol the signing of stevie Brown lasted two days… Their safety,situatuon reminds me of Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, and Colt Anderson……Landon Collins, Cooper Taylor, Brandon Merriweather and Craig Dahl? Zack Ertz is going to feast on the Giants

  155. 155 GEAGLE said at 5:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Hoping to see our OL make a statement Monday in Atlanta… From the Moment the,season starts our OL needs to adopt the OVER OUR DEAD BODY will you get to touch Bradford mentality. Take the holding penalty, claw, scratch, bite a guy if you have to, but under no circumstances can you allow your man to touch Bradford…. And whenever defenders get to take a shot after SAM a,ready got rid of the ball, you better make that defender pay for it the very next snap…we really our OL to become Sam’s bodyguard, nothing is more important then keeping teams from taking shots at SAM, because you can bet every team we face early in the season will try and rough Sammy boy up, and not only our OL, but the entire team can’t stand for it and make sure to set the tone that it won’t be tolerated
    ..
    In basketball, a 7 gamer series, someone takes shots at your star, it’s up to a teammate to make the Sacrafice and deliver a hard foul in return to make it clear that it won’t be tolerated… sometimes a pitcher has to step up for his teammates and peg someone…not just the OL, but this entire team needs to be foaming at the mouth to protect SAM… If our OL gets beat and gives up a hit to Bradford, when our defense gets on the field, it’s to Curry, Alonso, Cox to make sure they give it back immediately to the opposing QB
    ..
    last,season got off to the wrong foot when Sen’darrick Marks and the Jags put a beating on FOles in the first half… That CAN NOT HAPPEN in Atlanta on Monday. take the holding penalty and live to play another down if you have to, it’s better then łetting Teams rough up the most talented passer we have had in decades.. This is a new OL and team for Sammy… offensive line needs to put on a show Monday to show Sammy that his days of taking a beating as a Ram are over. it’s important for SAM to learn that he can trust his new protection and trust we won’t let teams tee off on him and rough him up…
    ..
    52 players need to commit to keeping our Golden Boy on the field, because as long as we keep him healthy and in the game, we should be a scary franchise..
    ..
    There are probably 10-15(at the most) QBs that are realistically capable of winning a Super Bowl.. 15 is probably a generous exaggeration… But we do have one of the few who have the mental and Physical talents to win a Super Bowl. Gettng SAM could go on to be one of the biggest moves in franchise history, but it won’t matter if we can’t keep him on the field. if we don’t keep this kid upright, it could be years until we get our hands on a comparable QB talent.. this is our chance, gotta take advantage at make the most of it, and it all STARTS with letting this QB see that we have his back and his Rams days are OVER, and his eagle teammates will keep him on the field for 16 games.. If we can let this kid put all the injury mess behind him, and give him the confidence that would come with us keepimg him on the field for 16 games, WATCH OUT!!!
    ..
    The entire team needs to commit to keeping Bradford healthy.. OL, TEs and RBs can’t be afraid to take a holding penalty this year. Take a personal foul if you have to in order to keep an opponent from drilling our QB..
    ..
    OL has to make a statement against Atlanta.. When that game ends I want Bradford to be blown away by how our team kept him from getting touched..
    ..
    We dealt with a ton of injuries last year, give us a healthy season and I’ll live with whatever results…

  156. 156 Media Mike said at 6:03 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I have a statement about that; Atlanta’s front 4 stinks.

    Our O-line will need to make a statement vs. some better opposition.

    Although I’ll 100% admit to having blown a gasket during several Eagles / Falcons games over the years when we’ve not done a good enough job blocking Jonathan Babineaux.

  157. 157 GEAGLE said at 6:08 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That entire team stinks…. Which is even more of a reason why our OL needs to dominant the inferior DLs that they should DOMINATE… bradford is going to get hit, let’s save those hits he has to eat against the good front 7’s that bring a me et talent to the table and handle our business against teams we are supposed to beat..
    ..
    last years opener against the Jags shouldn’t have been as difficult as it was…
    I want Monday to look like the ass whooping we handed to the skins in 2013, instead of looking like we did when we opened last season against the Jags. We made that game much more difficult then it should have been

  158. 158 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I think Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and wee Trufant are all good players.

    That might be it for their starting 22 however.

    When Brooks Reed is healthy, I’d agree he’s a good player as well.

  159. 159 GEAGLE said at 6:27 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    We have more top talent in our Front 7 then Atlanta has on their roster..
    ..
    How has Devin Hester looked The last few years? Still dangerous returnman? Our Coverage units lost some key players from last years top ranked unit, Jamaes Casey, Brad Smith, prosinski.. Going to need Tutu, Couplin, and jordan Hicks to step up and replace some quality ST contributors…
    ..
    Atlanta should be a good matchup for us. It won’t be hard for our front 7 to shut down that OL and those RBs making them one dimensional (they are looking at adding Monte Ball).. force them to throw 50 times, Roddy is getting up there in age, Maxwell should be able to keep their one weapon from going bonkers… By the end of the game, julio will have a lot of yards, but a lot of that will come In garbage time when we are up by 20 in the 4th and Byron plays Offense, giving up all the underneath catches taking away all hope for a big X play.
    ..
    Teams are probably going to try to attack us with 3 and 4 WRs, forcing BIGS or one of the rookie corners to hold up and make a play, but the Falcons won’t be able to throw 3 and 4 WRs at us because they won’t be able to stop our pass rush without keeping extra blockers in against us.. Doubt we see them put 4 WRs on the field against us.. But teams with good OLines who feel like they don’t need extra blockers to slow down our pass rush, are going to be Eager to put a bunch of WRs on the field, spread us out, amd pick on Bigs, ROWE, or Rice,,

  160. 160 Media Mike said at 6:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I have trouble remembering how Hester looked because I think I smashed a TV when our loser DBs let him score a TD in an Eagles / Bears game a few years ago.

  161. 161 short bus said at 6:02 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It looks as if Jacksonville hasn’t picked up a third QB. So if the question is, “is Stephen Morris better than nothing?” it appears the Jags answer would be “no, we’re better off with nothing.”

  162. 162 xmbk said at 6:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Might mean they were planning to keep him as the 3rd, and now have to reevaluate.

    This offseason has set the record for talking about 3rd qb’s.

  163. 163 Media Mike said at 6:05 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Shame. I’m trying to get the 4th RB conversation going to that level, but I can’t get enough reporters to help me stir that pot.

  164. 164 Media Mike said at 6:04 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Maybe their new 3rd QB gave a better answer to the “How would you feel about relocating to another country to work” question in his interview.

  165. 165 OldDocNewSeason said at 6:25 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It’s been about 24 hours since they lost him. Come on now.

  166. 166 short bus said at 6:28 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    But the Jags have filled their 53 and their practice squad.

  167. 167 OldDocNewSeason said at 6:40 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    If only there was some way they could change the players on their practise squad once they find a QB they like.

  168. 168 Avery Greene said at 7:00 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Jacksonville keeps their 3rd QB on the practice squad usually.

  169. 169 BlindChow said at 7:25 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I checked out some Jaguars blogs. The fans projected Morris to be on their PS. I’m assuming the Eagles claiming him was as much a surprise to them as it was to us…

  170. 170 Avery Greene said at 7:26 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    That’s what I figured when I was on their subreddit.

  171. 171 short bus said at 8:32 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    But the Jags practice squad is full. No QB.

  172. 172 A_T_G said at 6:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I think we should view the fact that Jacksonville cut him as a stamp of approval. After all, if they were any good at evaluating, developing, and retaining talent they wouldn’t be so bad every year.

  173. 173 Media Mike said at 6:10 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Um, yeah.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/32zw9u/how_absurd_was_the_tyson_alualu_selection_in_2010/

  174. 174 Bert's Bells said at 6:17 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    They picked that guy WHILE TIM TEBOW WAS STILL ON THE BOARD!

  175. 175 Media Mike said at 6:18 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    The North Florida Suicide Prevention Network was out in full force that day!

  176. 176 A_T_G said at 6:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Exactly.

    They wasted a top draft pick on that guy and made him “…the only Jaguar of the Gene Smith era to receive a second contract.” That is a guy we don’t want.

    An undrafted free agent QB that sits on the PS for a year, gets cut, and goes on to make something of himself? That is exactly the kind of thing one would expect from the Jags. We are golden here.

  177. 177 LiamGarrett said at 6:25 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Any idea *why* Kelly chose Morris over Renner and Davis?

  178. 178 MagsDogDays said at 6:28 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    ?????

  179. 179 Media Mike said at 6:28 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    You’ll get that at the next presser I hope. Hopefully some of reporters learned the practice squad and 53 man roster rules in order to avoid having that asked again.

  180. 180 unhinged said at 6:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    A few guesses: He probably has a stronger arm than either of them; as Mr. Lawler pointed out, he throws an accurate deep ball; he’s easy on the pocketbook, and he’s only 23 years old.

  181. 181 LiamGarrett said at 6:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Renner’s only 25 and also easy on the pocketbook, and I don’t think Chip is the kind of guy who prefers arm strength over consistency.

  182. 182 unhinged said at 8:10 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    He wants both, but I agree. I liked what I saw of Renner against our backup D, but I don’t have a feel for his vertical game. Morris definitely looks deep routinely, and gets it there on time.

  183. 183 LiamGarrett said at 8:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    My best guess is that he knows Renner and Davis are better, but thinks their ceiling is “marginally ok backup.” Whereas, he might think Morris has the tools to be a very good backup, with a little luck and a lot of hard work. In other words, the other 2 would probably be better, but still be bad enough for us to lose if they ever had to play for an extended amount of time. So, if we’re going to lose with them or Morris in the game, we might as well increase our chances of losing big with Morris (because losing close games and getting blown out are an L just the same) so that we have the small chance of developing a 23yo with the cannon and jets to be a big-time contributor. That’s the 3-dimensional chess Chip might be trying to play.

    (In short: Since they’re probably not going to play, and suck to varying degrees when they do, you might as go with potential upside.)

  184. 184 unhinged said at 8:29 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    Good points. Even back to when they were at the Manning’s Camp, Renner was, according to Mike Mayock, more polished. A slew of QB’s coming out of college every year show form and have the right “look”. That is one reason why so many prognostications are so off the mark, I’m thinking. The other thing that we know about SM – he’s got strong leadership indicators, and Chip has shown that he’ll go off the reservation to find that. One other point occurs to me: If Davis was interested and Chip was willing to meet his asking price, there is an immediate drama re: the #2 QB position that would be a pretty big distraction. Davis would NOT be satisfied with #3, we have no idea if he is cut for tempo, and suddenly a side story that undermines focus is upon us. I think Davis AND Renner need to play this year more than SM does.

  185. 185 short bus said at 8:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Chip is hardly committed to Stephen Morris. Chip will see what Morris can do and if he can’t run the offense, Chip will know after a few weeks of practice and Morris will be gone. I’d feel better if Barkley were still on the street mid-season, but at least Tebow will be there to answer the phone if needed.

  186. 186 Nailed it! said at 6:40 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Oh man the Falcons blogs are giving us no chance this week! God, I love their optimism, and how sweet it will be too tear their hearts out!

  187. 187 Media Mike said at 6:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    They must have all been getting crunk with the rest of the ATL losers all week.

  188. 188 Fufina said at 6:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It will be interesting since it really is passing game against running game.

    Eagles have elite run defence and an elite running game.
    Falcons have a good passing attack against an ‘average’ pass defence.

    Now i expect the Eagles to run all over the Falcons, opening up the passing game so that Bradford can join the show. The question is can our defence stop Matty Ice and Julio to make it a blow out or will it be a shoot out?

    Think the Eagles win easily but we will see how our pass D holds up.

  189. 189 Nailed it! said at 6:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Yes, I do not think it will be the blowout some are expecting but I love the early test for the new secondary! I think we will put up at least 30 on that D. Probably somewhere around 38-24 Iggs.

  190. 190 unhinged said at 6:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    If Ryan is regularly hurried and moved out of his comfort zone, I think it won’t be close.

  191. 191 Media Mike said at 6:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    *when

  192. 192 FairOaks said at 7:33 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    It will be interesting. This is time of year when hopes run unbounded, before we find out what warts we have and get a dose of reality. We’re all thinking that the 10 passes that Bradford threw is going to be our offense all year long, and they are thinking they were just a coaching change away from returning to 2012 form 😉

    For whatever reason, Atlanta has always been tough in their dome. If they have fixed their OL enough (big if), their offense could find the issues in our D. But I’d have to think our tempo and offense is going to give them fits either way. Your score is definitely realistic. Of course, turnovers either way can really change the game.

  193. 193 Media Mike said at 6:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “The question is can our defence stop Matty Ice and Julio to make it a blow out or will it be a shoot out?

    Think the Eagles win easily but we will see how our pass D holds up.”

    So what I choose to get out of your comment here is that if we lose I can blame Billy Davis.

  194. 194 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 6:49 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    The pass rush getting pressure against that OL will be key. Giving Matty Ice 4 seconds to throw wont be good for us.

  195. 195 Dragon_Eagle said at 7:08 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Julio Jones is worth like 12 defenders. Unstoppable when he’s not injured. And Matt Ryan is already in the HoF. The NFL is just keeping it secret. Only thing that held the dirty birds back was Mike Smith’s coaching or they’d have 51 superbowls by now.

    Savannah sensimilla. Working its magic.

  196. 196 BlindChow said at 7:12 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    They must have seen last year’s past defense…

  197. 197 FairOaks said at 7:19 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Well, and things like Demarco Murray is the only thing they need to worry about on our offense, and things like that.

    This one has them going 12-4:

    http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2015/8/25/9206653/wins-and-losses-for-every-falcosn-game-this-regular-season

    To be fair, I’ve seen some more coherent posts on other boards.

  198. 198 BobSmith77 said at 7:21 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LJVlv-xWesc/UXXsGSG4vHI/AAAAAAAAAYM/VUMrOJvLUAQ/s1600/MF.jpeg

  199. 199 BlindChow said at 7:28 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Wow, they didn’t even bother with cogent analysis, it’s just “Woo Falcons!!”

  200. 200 Greg Richards said at 8:05 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    If they are actually predicting the Falcons, they’re fans are delusional.

  201. 201 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    They don’t think even think it will be much of a contest. After all, we only have Murray, who’s not running behind that Dallas OL anymore. Falcons should win easily.

  202. 202 KAJomo said at 8:38 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I am always nervous week 1. Logic tells me we should win by 10+, but There is so much uncertainty the first week. Look at how poorly our OL played against the jags last year.

    My concerns are

    1) our secondary doesnt look great. I didnt think they were world beaters again hundley. They are going up against a tough test in Julio/Ryan.

    2) the falcons D should be much better thnan the past couple of years. We cannot afford turnovers

    3) that stadium will be rocking. New coach, week one, Monday night. They will have a good homefield advantage, especially in that dome.

    Reasons we should win

    1) their OL is terrible. The will not be able to run with any success and Ryan will be under pressure

    2) i think we have too many weapons to really shut us down. If they stack the box matthews, ertz, sproles, and company will have a big night. If they try to limit big pass plays demarco and matthews will have big nights.

    2) if we get up early its over

  203. 203 short bus said at 8:44 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Eagles are (-3) on most boards.

  204. 204 ACViking said at 6:57 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Re: Morris’s Pro-day – 2014

    Here’s a summary of how SM looked at his Pro-day, courtesy of the Miami Herald.

    The Eagles had more than one coach/scout in attendance, as they took UMiami TE Asante Cleveland — drafted by the Pats in Rd 4 — to dinner in advance of the pro-day. Still trying to figure out who was there.

    Morris, rated the 12th best quarterback in the draft by ESPN, was impressive according to officials from two NFL teams in attendance. Though the plays were not being defended, Morris running back Eduardo Clements said Morris completed nearly all of his 67 throws. The only ones that weren’t caught were dropped.

    “I got a lot of positive feedback [from NFL teams],” said Morris, who hadn’t thrown yet in front of scouts until Thursday.

    Morris said his mechanics were much better because he has recovered from his troublesome Achilles’ injury. “When I was dealing with my Achilles’, I wasn’t even throwing off my right foot” last year, Morris said.

    Morris spent time working in Los Angeles with Tom House, the former MLB pitching coach who has become a guru on quarterback menchanics. During his work with House, he bonded with NFL quarterbacks Andy Dalton, Terrelle Pryor and Matt Barkley, and picked the brains of Super Bowl winners Tom Brady and Drew Brees.

    Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch, who previously held that position at UM, said Morris “looked really good” Thursday. Fisch said NFL teams are smart enough to know Morris played injured last year.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article1962341.html

  205. 205 Media Mike said at 6:58 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    “he bonded with NFL quarterbacks Andy Dalton, Terrelle Pryor and Matt Barkley”

    Was this supposed to be a positive?

  206. 206 BlindChow said at 7:08 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    BARKLEY: Stephen Morris is my bestest friend ever!

    CHIP: Noted

    BARKLEY: Wait, what?

    CHIP: *already on phone* Hey, Stevie, wanna play for the Eagles?

  207. 207 ACViking said at 7:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I wonder how the phone call from last night went.

  208. 208 ACViking said at 7:07 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Re: Morris’s Pro-day II

    The Eagles’ officials who attended U-Miami’s Pro-Day in 2014, when Morris threw, were:

    1. Justin Peelle – promoted by Kelly in 2015 to TE Coach
    (which explains the team taking UM tight end Asante Cleveland to dinner)

    2. Rick Mueller – fired by Kelly on May 4, 2015.

    http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=209452676&SPID=103763&SPSID=658365

  209. 209 BobSmith77 said at 7:14 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    NFL equivalent of the professional jobber in the WWE. Just some nameless guy.

  210. 210 76mustang said at 7:53 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    I’m likely in the minority on this, but with the emphasis I expect to see with the Eagles’ run game, I like Cooper and Celek playing the early downs, especially to start the game. Feed DeMarco and Ryan early and often to move the chains and set up tempo. Then, rotate in Agholor, Huff, Sproles, Ertz (until he can start), and even Austin. With fresh legs, the Eagles’ skill position players can do a lot of damage.

    With the depth at the skill positions and the way the coaches rotate in because of tempo, there should NEVER be a play where an Eagle WR/RB/TE takes a play off (see DeSean Jackson), which is one of the reasons Chip’s scheme works so well – every player’s assignment is integral to the success of the play called, and to setting up future plays. Couple this with the Eagles’ tempo and conditioning, and you can see how players come wide open so often.

    Think of all the options the Eagles have in the slot – Matthews, Sproles, Ertz, Huff – with Cooper, Agholor, and Austin (Matthews and Huff too) on the outside, this team is loaded for creating mismatches.

    Finally, Eagles football is back!!

    Eagles 42
    Atlanta 13

  211. 211 Greg Richards said at 8:07 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    The Falcons cut C/G Joe Hawley. He is coming off a knee injury but he has been a good player. Worth investigating. Can compete with Gardner at RG and be an upgrade at backup C(IMO).

  212. 212 Insomniac said at 9:52 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Who would we cut though?

  213. 213 FairOaks said at 9:56 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Presumably Molk. I’m reading that Hawley has knee issues though so I’m not as sure he’d be an upgrade.

  214. 214 Mitchell said at 10:29 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Somewhere in the distance, Geagle just had to change his pants.

  215. 215 GEAGLE said at 12:27 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    Not gonna happen,,, doubt I’ll be free from Molk too Josh Andrews improves Enough to leap Him on the depth chart..at least Andrews has NFL size and strength unlike Molk

  216. 216 KAJomo said at 8:30 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    OSU/ VaTech game already over

  217. 217 Nailed it! said at 9:22 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Not quite….

  218. 218 Nailed it! said at 9:34 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Definitely not over

  219. 219 KAJomo said at 9:37 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Well to be fair I had thought they just went up 21-0. That TD got called back and its been all VaTech

  220. 220 SteveH said at 9:17 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Ugh, their are still Tebow fans making noise about all that? I don’t get out past this board much so I don’t know what goes on in the world but I’m glad none of those people visit here.

  221. 221 Ryan Rambo said at 10:46 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    ESPN Dallas’s Todd Archer answers pressing questions about the Cowboys’ roster before the season begins.

    How will Byron Jones contribute in the secondary this season?

    If I had to make my best guess right now, I think Byron Jones will eventually start at safety this year. Just a hunch. He’s not a nickel defense guy. He is more of a dime, over the tight end. He could be a corner if something happened to Brandon Carr or Morris Claiborne.

    We hear coaches all the time talk about getting the best 11 players on the field. Eventually, I think the Cowboys will view Jones as one of their 11 best players and he will be at safety.
    Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/09/07/nfc-east-roundup-finalizing-rosters/#vVyUGiX3jprkMWri.99

    Interesting considering the Rowe….

  222. 222 Ryan Rambo said at 11:09 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    Replacing Shady: The 60 Million Dollar Backfield (Part 3)

    http://chipwagon.typepad.com/

  223. 223 ac134spectre said at 11:20 PM on September 7th, 2015:

    bLAH Morris looks like a project that might turn into a backup. Most likely if he is starting then the season is over. but.

  224. 224 xeynon said at 3:34 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    I doubt very much Morris ever amounts to anything, but I’m absolutely fine with him as the #3 since he has the tools to be a developmental guy. If we get to the point where Bradford and Sanchez are both hurt, A.)we’re screwed anyway, and B.)the Christian Ponders of the world aren’t going anywhere.

    As for Tebow, I’ve never understood the adoration he generates among his fanboys. Seems like a very nice guy. Absolutely sucks at playing quarterback, and at this point has very little upside. I don’t see what the point of keeping him would’ve been.

  225. 225 eagleyankfan said at 7:39 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    No lie. Got off the phone with someone out west. He said he can’t believes the Eagles got rid of him. I told him that Tebow is terrible. His reply? Are you kidding, the only thing Tebow does is win. WTF! I know, 100% this guy hasn’t seen Tebow play this summer. Do people still think Tebow is in college?
    …..
    I’ll never know what I missed about the guy or about the semi-cult following he has. Man really are sheep looking for Shepard.

  226. 226 Honest_T said at 10:07 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    I am a fan of this move, but I think many people are being too dismissive of “a 3rd string QB”. It may not mean much to the 2015 season, but The fact of the matter is that Bradford is not signed beyond this year, and Sanchez is on a 2 year deal. If Bradford gets hurt or signs elsewhere, this kid could be competing for the starting job or at least the back-up role for next year.

  227. 227 eagleyankfan said at 11:08 AM on September 8th, 2015:

    I don’t think it’s being dismissive. This kid is not good enough right now or next year. He’s a project, at best. Nothing less, nothing more.