Some Context
Posted: September 15th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 646 Comments »We waited 9 months for that?
Season openers carry the weight of the world with them due to all the waiting and the build up of excitement and curiosity. Every play is magnified. The outcome is huge.
So when the Eagles look awful for a half and lose the opener, it is tough to stay level-headed.
Some context can make a big difference.
Last year the Eagles won the opener 34-17. That sounds good, but you have to go deeper. They hosted the Jaguars, who featured Chad Henne at QB, Toby Gerhart at RB and a slew of rookies at WR. The Jags built up a 17-0 lead at the half before the Eagles dominated the 2nd half and won the game. Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher struggled. The starting WRs (Allen Hurns, Marqise Lee) combined to go 10-172-3. In their debut.
The Eagles scored 3 TDs on fluky plays and had the other TD drive start at the Jags 40-yard line. Nick Foles threw a bad INT in the end zone. The Eagles struggled to establish the run game. Zach Ertz was the only receiver who stood out.
All of this and the Eagles were at home playing against a team coming off a 4-12 season.
Compare that to last night.
The Eagles lost 26-24. They were torched by Julio Jones and Roddy White for 13-225-2. That’s arguably the top WR duo in the league. QB Matt Ryan is incredibly difficult to beat in Atlanta. He is now 8-0 in home openers and has a great overall record in the Georgia Dome.
Atlanta was up 20-3 at the half and really controlled that part of the game. It wasn’t luck or bad officiating. They controlled the line of scrimmage. They made plays. The Eagles were sloppy and looked bad.
The Eagles turned the tables after halftime and outscored the Falcons 21-6. There was one short TD, set up by a beautiful INT by Walter Thurmond. The other TD drives covered 95 and 80 yards. The Eagles weren’t lucky at all. They had to overcome penalties, some of which were questionable. Those were long, tough drives.
The Eagles then got the ball back, again at their own 20, where they seemed to start every drive. They marched to the Falcons 26-yard line where the drive stalled. Cody Parkey had a 44-yard attempt to take the lead. And he missed.
Ugh.
But again…think about the two openers. The Eagles won last year. In retrospect, there were some real issues that would plague the team all year. The Eagles got lucky that they were playing a bad team and had the benefit of being at home. Did you see anything that day that really got your attention? The TD run up the middle by Darren Sproles was terrific, but it also looked like the parting of the Red Sea. The entire middle of the field was wide open. Jeremy Maclin had a 68-yard TD, but there wasn’t anyone within 15 yards of him.
There were actually more positives to come out of last night’s game, despite the fact it was a loss. Sam Bradford was 21-25-219 in the 2nd half. He really got on a roll. The team was down 17 on the road to a veteran QB. They took control of the game and actually took the lead in the 4th quarter. Kiko Alonso had a great INT. Walter Thurmond had a great INT. The Eagles executed well in the Red Zone, going 3 for 4.
The biggest thing for me is that the Eagles were really challenged. And they responded. I know the Falcons went 6-10 last year, but that might be a playoff team this year. They looked good. The Falcons played hard. They were aggressive and physical. They’ve still got some talent issues, but the new coaching staff has made a difference with them.
Being down 17 to Chad Henne and coming back at home is very different from being down 17 to Matt Ryan and a rejuvenated Falcons team on the road. This year’s result was a loss, but I was impressed enough with what I saw in the 2nd half to still feel good about this team.
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The biggest concern for me is the lack of a running game. Darren Sproles was 5-50. Ryan Mathews was 3-4. DeMarco Murray was 8-9. Ugh, ugh and ugh. That’s not good.
It did look like the Falcons were crowding the line of scrimmage so the Eagles did the smart thing and started throwing the ball. Still, that’s not a good day on the ground. The offensive line has got to play better. I need to study the game to see what was going on.
I did like the fact that Bradford and Kelly fed the ball to the RBs in the passing game. You need to get those guys touches. They were 14-111 as receivers. And there were a couple of nice gains on screen passes that got called back.
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What do we make of the Cody Parkey situation right now?
Chip Kelly says all the right things. The one FG he did hit looked good. I’m not sure what happened on the miss. I don’t think the Eagles need to panic yet, but Parkey needs to get on a hot streak. Another miss or two any time soon and the team will have to start looking at other kickers.
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The miss is mostly on Chip, imo. If you spend half of the play clock deciding what to do and decide to go with a kick, call a time out. It’s one thing to run out there set up run or sneak, but the kicking unit is used to setup time. (actually, practicing a last second kick is not a bad thing to do, but it’s clear that the protection scheme and the kicker were not ready). Be decisive or call a time out.
when he missed Chip was prob like GD I wanted to go for it, I knew I should have gone for it. It looked like he wanted to go, but looked back and some assistants were like, you crazy man you have to kick here, so he did.
I really thought in the dome with Falcons’ kicker and with Jones, even if you make it no sure thing.
I was pissed when I saw Parkey running out. I was thinking he’d hit the FG and we’d lose anyway, because we’d be up a point giving Matt Ryan and Julio Jones a chance with 2:30 left to get Matt Bryant into FG position for a game ending kick.
he shouldve called a TO. We got stuffed on 3rd and 1 and had that happened on 4th down it would be a different complaint. O line was abysmal but picked it up later on. Pass protection seems good not the run.
I will never complain about an Eagles coach making aggressive play calls. Big Balls Chip loses the Big Balls nickname. He played small and lost.
hopefully this is a wake up call. we got ahead of ourselves last year and took ourselves out of the playoffs. definitely not panicking but gotta turn it around. i dont mind the FG our run blocking was horrible. just wished he made a better decision.
Field goal kickers are often required to kick a field goal in as little as 7 or 8 seconds. They train and practice for it. Parker had more than 20 seconds. This is on Parkey, not Chip.
The falcons had a lot of penetration too. I dont think the unit was set right. If he sent them out decisively, I think he makes the kick. Maybe he should have made it anyway, but like a past coach used to say: “put them on good situations to succeed”
If the unit was not set, that’s on Chip, as head coach, for not having that unit prepared. But 20 seconds is far more than enough for a field goal kicker to get set and make a kick. We’re criticizing Chip for a nonexistent dilemma.
There should have been a penalty on Atl – their linemen used our left side to leap the line and attempt a block. No call
This game reminded me of Jacksonville last year. They were lucky to get out of that game with a win – and that Jacksonville team was abysmal. The Falcons were just a tiny bit better – and the Eagles got exposed. THey aren’t good, I have been saying it for over two years now.
CHIP KELLY IS NOT THE ANSWER
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Go back to Philly.com – you’ll be liked better there
Chip, you can’t just throw away pro bowl Offensive Lineman because they dont want to wear sleep monitors then draft a single offensive lineman in 3 years and expect the unit to be good
That’s great rhetoric, but it’s also totally inaccurate. Both Herremen’s and Mathis had bought into Chip’s program. He didn’t get rid of them for that reason.
Your second point — that Chip hasn’t drafted replacement talent for the O-line, is on more solid footing.
If they keep using Sproles this much, I guarantee you this will be his last season in the league
Sproles is 32 and he didn’t have that many touches.
Last year, we complained that Sproles wasn’t used enough. I guess this year we’re going to complain because…
…um, because we can.
Listen, the Eagles really did drop a turd last night. Byron Maxwell was getting torched by everyone including Roddy White who I think is going to be 40 next month. The offensive line was so bad that Jason Peters looked exposed – he’s 33 and was getting beat by a rookie. Agholar had 1 catch. I have seen male cheerleaders who are bigger than Kiko Alonso.
All of that being said, they will never be able to take away the fact that the Eagles WON THE PRESEASON SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!
WE ALREADY WON!!!
Go away troll
you were probably hyped af in the preseason tho
Hmm. Having now read your first four comments, I can see that you fit the classic definition of a troll.
I’ll never understand people like you…and I have no interest in doing so.
Context is very important….let’s not forget when Julio roasted Patrick Peterson for 10 catches 189 yards. He’s really freaking good. I say let’s give Maxwell some slack here.
It should be noted that Patrick Peterson is not a good cornerback. He has a great reputation due to some big plays early in his career, but he is generally bad at covering receivers.
It sucks, but I’m OK with it all being that it’s the first game. With that whole fixed mindset vs growth mindset thing going on with the players and coaches, sometimes a step back helps you learn things you otherwise wouldn’t have when reviewing the tape.
Did Sam Bradford even have a single throw over 20 yards last night? There is no deep threat on this team. How long will it take defenses to realize THERE IS NO DEEP THREAT ON THIS TEAM.
That wasn’t the reason they had problems last night.
No the reason they had problems is because the team SUCKS. All around SUCKS. Byron Maxwell SUCKS. The offensive line SUCKS. The Defensive line SUCKS. Malcolm Jenkins and Minnie Me Sproles is the only thing on this team that didn’t SUCK.
WRs SUCK.
STs. SUCK.
OL MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR SUCKS.
TE SUCKS
RB (Demarco Murry9 yards) SUCKS
BYRON MAXWELL SUCKS.
THIS TEAM SUCKS.
You suck troll STFU and get off this board. Your kind isn’t welcomed here
Long Dong…why you so Mad Bro??? Get some help…scrub one out and relax a bit…
Dude you need to invest in some Ativan. You need to chill. Nobody on this team sucks. You are not allowed to say a word once we win. This website needs to ban you from posting once we do.
dont feed the troll 🙂
Taking what defense is giving. That’s why almost everything was open underneath. If D’s want to take away the run and the deep ball, fine. But it means the Eagles have to execute the short passing game and make them pay.
A win would have been nice, but we have no major injuries.
The key is to get hot in the 2nd half of the year. Looking good in early September does no good if you flame out in December.
We do have to take everything into context.
They looked really good last December.
You missed the point. Possibly Tommy’s article.
Tommy is a fan boy. This team is a debacle.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554325
Long season
This loser keeps posting. You need psychiatric help.
Yeah I need psychiatric help because I don’t like Chip Kelly
Belichick teams are known to start slow and peak in December.
Hey, hey, hey! Don’t go confusing the issue with facts! Especially relevant ones!
🙂
The #1 thing I’m the most pissed off by far,
and I was when watching the game, is the change in playcalling once we
approached the FG zone. Bradford was LIGHTING them up, with Ertz, Sproles,
Matthews open seemingly on every play. For a coach talking “process”
all the time, and who’s not afraid to go against the grain when “things
makes sense”, he just turned into the random, mediocre, scared-for-his-job NFL
head coach then, and just went ultra conservative.
3rd and 1? Prepare for 2 quick pass
plays, and considering how things were going in the 2Nd half, I’d say
that there was a 80% chance, easy, for a conversion on either of them. But no “the
OL was not getting any push on that 3rd and one so I called a FG”. If
you really want to base your playcalling on recent events then just throw the
damn ball FFS. Stop the stupid runs that NEVER WENT ANYWHERE the whole game.
That’s some BS, stupid, lame excuse, the kind I
don’t expect from Chip.
I’m still very, very mad (I’m sure it does not
show).
16. Falcons (1-0; No. 22): Fake crowd noise isn’t necessary when the opponent is potentially a fraud.
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19. Eagles (0-1; No. 14): People are surprised that the Ringo Starr of the Legion of Boom didn’t perform like Paul McCartney?
The last game that Lesean Mccoy had less than 10 yards rushing in a single game… December 6, 2009 – his rookie season.
Now all you Eagles fans explain how DeMarco Murray is better than LeSean McCoy again PLEASE.
wow how many times are you going to post?
by the way what did you think of the game?
He’s happy the Eagles lost. To me, he’s a Cowboys fan trolling.
Just his screen name you know he’s not an Eagles fan. Limp wristed (and other appendages) little cowgirls fan
Lesean Mccoy had 40 yards rushing on 16 carries. He’s not making a difference here.
You don’t see a difference between 40 yards and 9 yards? Do you even play Fantasy Football bro?
LOL. Fantasy Football doesn’t equal team play. But I’m not surprised you don’t know the difference.
What did Demarco do for his team, genius? Sit on the bench to keep it warm for Shady McCoy????
2 Touchdowns in the red zone. I believe that may beat all of Shady’s from last year. Plus getting behind took them away from the run. Plus a stupid hold that had nothing to do with a long run when things were turning around.
You said it best.
He’s not thinking long run. If a guy is having a great game but not finishing the deal, big f*ing deal. A guy has a shitty game, and that’s not going to happen all year, but still, he finishes the deal when we need it, that’s what we missed last year.
Do you understand the term “total yards” bro? Moron!
Actually, this is exactly the type of game he could make a difference, because he can make guys miss and get free at times. But I’m still high on Murray.
Sometimes. He lead the league in rushes for loss last year, didn’t he?
THey got behind fast BUT…red zone. Murray took the ball in the red zone and scored.
The bad:
I blame Billy D for calling a bad defense. Julio was left singled covered most of the night and he made us pay for it. I didn’t see any adjustments in the secondary. Also, I think Maxwell will be fine, but I need to stop seeing him roam the field. He’s not Revis. Leave him on his side of the field. Also, I take it Maragos is the 5th DB? I saw him on the field a lot last night. Not good in my book. That means Biggers and Rowe can’t handle the duties back there. Okay for Rowe as he’s a rookie, not okay with Biggers. Very disappointed in the coverage scheme for the defense.
The offensive line got manhandled in the first half, and had a bunch of penalties in the 2nd half. Too many drops from the receivers that caused some stalled drives. Very sloppy play.
Agholor had a bad penalty, but as a rookie he’s learning.
The good:
Bradford looked good in the 2nd half. He made the throws that needed to be made and he brought the team back from 17 down. He didn’t get rattled and frankly that INT to end the game was not his fault.
Thurmond looks like the real deal at the other Safety spot. He’ll be good there. Kiko is a beast. Yeah, that Shady deal was worth it. He and Kendricks still have some rust to knock off, but they are going to be good.
Murray didn’t have much success in the run game, but he got tough yards. He didn’t shy away from contact. I’d prefer to see him in the 4th rather than Mathews. I think he picks up that 1st down in the 4th if he was used in the RZ instead.
I fail to see the ‘bad’ defence angle.
We held them to 26 points, while giving them great field position all first half (including very short field of a turn over), we produced 2 INT’s and could have had twice that without stone hands.
Run game was an issue early but we held them to less than 4 yards a carry over the game.
Is always hard when you are facing a team with a new coaching staff in the first game – you have limited tape and we seemed to struggle with some of the boot action passing in the first half, but we settled down and played a decent game.
I think my issue is that Billy D constantly leaves elite receivers 1-on-1 during the games. That’s fine a handful of times per game, but Julio was left 1-on-1 the majority of the game.
I think our front 7 is legit. They will get pressure. Kiko and Kendricks need to get back into game shape. That’ll happen over the next couple of weeks. But Billy D has to make sure that when we face elite receivers, that there’s a 2nd player watching him most times.
there were several plays where the receiver had to cross the field and outran our db’s. The line never got pressure and allowed that to develop. More pressure in those spots and those plays won’t be open. I don’t think we got enough pressure at all.
Most of that was the deep drop boot action they were able to execute early.
Because they ran well initially we had to respect our gap responsibilities. Those sweep plays need the OLB’s to set the edge and that left us a step slow and then it is a LONG way to get to the QB on some of those bootlegs.
We brought the pressure later once we had started to shut down the run game and things went a lot better for the entire defence.
I agree on that – we have to make adjustments for the elite WR’s.
I like all the subtle under zones we played with our LB’s and that caused picks and shut down the slot and TE’s from even being able to do anything but that is a high cost if it means we are leaving our outside CB’s 1v1 all game without safety help.
I guess the way Billy thinks is that Julio is going to get his – if we shut everything else down and make them 1 dimensional they will struggle to sustain drives because there will be some snaps where we did have good coverage on Julio and those will kill drives.
The one thing i would say is that outside of the 44 yarder in the 4th quarter we stopped Julio from making monster plays….
True. I think the defense will get better. Maybe there is something to continuity. We had 5 new starters on defense, and 5 new starters on offense. They played better in the 2nd half, and I expect more of that type of play moving forward. I think we’d be more worried if we started great and sucked at the end.
Adjustments were made at halftime, but a 17 point deficit is a lot to overcome. Bradford led the team back, and we saw some good signs from Thurmond and Alonso.
My concerns are up front to be honest. Our DL has to stop the run to set the plate for the rest of the defence – everything we do is based off that. Early they just decided to run around the DL and we seemed to really struggle with their running game going east west early.
Offensively the lack of running lanes initially was shocking – really plugged every gap and our Guards were getting pushed around early. The plan was to obviously come out and run the ball and we could not do that at all in the first half, which combined with penalties and drops left us unable to move the ball at all first half.
We need to be able to compete or win upfront with this scheme or everything falls apart – and the first half we got mauled.
Falcons averaged 3 ypc last night.
First half:
3, 9, -2, 3, 1, 3, -5, 3, 4, 5, 4, 2, 7, 6, 2, 2, -6.
17 carries for 42 yards.
Not saying it’s all on that play, ’cause there are many pivotal plays I can point to, but think how different the outcome would have been without the ‘bad’ pick thrown by Bradford late in the first half. Without that, winning the second half 21-6 is enough.
Still a lot of season left, but I’m certainly not feeling like chicken little right now.
I agree with your thoughts on Billy’s pass defense scheme. He rarely seems to adjust much when it’s obvious leaving the CB on an island with a true elite WR isn’t working. Seems to be a big blind spot in his scheme/strategy.
But, I’m conflicted about saying he didn’t adjust this game, they scored 20 points in the first and only 6 in the second half. He must have done something different to slow them down. But, those changes always seem to come way too late.
Yeah, I think his philosophy depends heavily on his pass rush. But if they leave 6 in to block, you need to rush more than 4 if it’s not working.
Ryans played terrible last night as well. As soon as you would see him in the game, The Falcons seemed to run/ pass right at him. Terrible. He’s done. Maragos has no business being in on the D unless maybe for some short yardage/ goal line situation type plays.
Ryans may, in fact, be done. But remember that he is still recovering from a significant injury. He may just need more time to knock off the rust and return to form.
I noticed that Julio Jones virtually disappeared in the second half. I’m guessing that the Eagles made a significant adjustment.
The first half was so disheartening. Games can get away from you. A play over the top, a pick on your side of the field. Next thing you know it’s 20-3 at the half. That happens.
That wasn’t what happened in the first half. Our drives got smothered and their drives were methodically unstoppable. We didn’t end up down 20-3 because the ball didn’t bounce our way. On the contrary, the score could have easily been 31-3 at the half. We were lucky it was only 20-3, because that put us in a position where we still ended up competing for a win. The 2nd half was a great effort, but coaches and players need to be better prepared to not get stomped in the first half that bad. 2nd half adjustments were like night and day.
why can’t they make adjustments earlier? does it take the whole half to figure it out?
I think for the most part in football that’s where you can sit down and really make your adjustments. We never saw Andy do that. I’m not sure, but it seems like teams that are getting beat that are able to figure it out in the 2nd half usually do it at halftime. Or if it’s a team that plays twice a year sometimes it’s not even until the next game.
then maybe we slow down and get to halftime. It’s like we keep hitting our head against the wall.
Also, running Sproles right before the half is stupid, he can only get hurt. We aren’t scoring on a draw from our own 30.
That was stupid you’re right. I don’t know if this team knows the meaning of slow down, but that would’ve been a good idea.
I hated running sproles 4 times up the middle with a minute left in the half with 80 yards to go. What’s the benefit? If you’re going to try and play to score in that situation, do that! Throw the ball downfield, try to score. If not, kneel on the ball. But don’t send your tiniest player into the middle of the line to get stomped by 300 pound DTs because you’re too scared to really try and score and too prideful to kneel out the clock.
that’s the part that gets me. You can’t know exactly what they’re going to do but you would think we have an idea of a few possibilities of what their game plan will be. Got the whole summer to think about it and prepare for it.
Hard to make adjustments when your offense hasn’t run enough plays to see what the defense is giving you.
I don’t understand how our OL struggles but their OL with like 3 new people including one who just joined the team 10 days ago looks awesome the first half. Is our system more complicated and requires more communication (so harder to execute)?
There’s a thing called talent evaluation.
did you think the Eagles did well, or sucked or like SUCKED with all caps?
I think Atlanta knew their offensive line was weak, so they game planned for it by using maximum protection and keeping 8 in to block. The failure came from the four secondary defenders being unable to cover 2 wide receivers.
I don’t know what the record is for longest drive with penalties last night, but the Eagles may have it. Wasn’t that 97 drive about 122+?
4 ten yard penalties I believe. started on the 5. 135 yards.
Wow, even more than I thought. 5.135? LOL
That’s the drive that made me a Sam Bradford believer. With the game on the line, no rushing game, everyone knowing we were gonna pass, pass, pass and 4 big plays overturned by holding penalties, and he didn’t flinch, he just kept firing perfectly placed balls to whoever got open and just kept overcoming terrible down and distances and drove us 135 yards for the go ahead TD on the road, in his first game in 2 years in a system he’s only taken 15 live snaps in to date. That was so impressive and why I’m so baffled by the people going, “meh, check down Charlie Bradford, didn’t do anything Sanchez couldn’t do.” What?!?
This is so true. Last year, with either Sanchez or Foles, a 10-yard holding penalty basically guaranteed the drive was over and we’d be punting soon.
Offensive penalties like that usually kill a drive. The fact that the Eagles were able to go almost the length of the field and overcome 4 offensive penalties to boot, was truly impressive.
This one is solely on Chip Kelly. His play calling is suspect at best. He lost the game on his indecisive Fourth and One with less than 3 minutes left. First, the indecisiveness is inexcusable. You could argue that giving Parkey 16 seconds to run onto the field contributed to the miss. Regardless, I will focus on it having been the wrong call regardless of the outcome.
Even if Parkey hits that FG we are likely going to lose. If Parkey hits the FG we are up by a point and Matt Ryan and Julio Jones are marching their team down the field where any FG inside of 50 yards is automatic for Matt Bryant.
Chip needed to call a timeout, get the right play call, convert fourth and less than a yard, keep the ball, score a touchdown and then go for two points to put the team up by 7. Doing so would have run the clock down to next to nothing. At the very least it chews up clock and gets Parkey a closer FG attempt.
Chip blew this one plain and simple.
Usually they say you’re only as good as your last game. Hopefully this team is good as it’s second half. They blew the doors off that team in the second half. Unfortunately the first half left us no room for error., 21-6 wasn’t enough. Not worried about ONE GAME! See the caps? ONE GAME. Oh fucking wow, were they going undefeated on the road? Did they lost to a division team? They win this week and it doesn’t matter, the whining can be reversed, or maybe I’ll join along, but until then. By they way, you’ll all back, pumped up and ready for Sunday against the Cowboys, getting all the crying out of your systems.
If you’re gonna pay a cornerback Revis money it better say Revis on his jersey. I do think our expectations were to high for maxwell, but he team gave us that impression all offseason. We now know he is an average joe Cb and other teams #1 need to have some safety help in coverage. The O-line needs to get cleaned up quick fast and in a hurry! If that had been the buffalo bills last night Bradford would have been getting zipped up in a black plastic bag. The running back situation I think they should alternate quarters with a bunch of sproles sprinkled in. So for example Murray starts Qtr1 Matthews Qtr2 that way they can build a rhythm. I am depressed Sunday can’t get here any quicker but I have a bad feeling about that too.
Except we are not paying Revis money – Revis got $4mil a year more.
Almost no CB can deal with Julio 1v1 in this league on a consistent basis – he is too big, too fast and too strong to handle. He needs to be double teamed to manage and we refused to do that almost the entire game. However we did give matt ryan a lot of issues – he could have had 4 picks if stone hands Jenkins did not drop a pair – and we have 2-3 other times were DB’s got hands on the ball.
A lot of that was due to how we left the outside WR’s 1v1 and then had complex zone coverage under to confuse and produce turn overs.
I was ‘happy’ with the defence to be honest. Falcons will move the ball with their squad, and while i wanted more pressure in the 1st half and struggled with some of their play action and run game i thought the Defence held in well considering we were doing nothing on offence and gave them great field position all first half.
Lol you are complaining that our 60mil corner got beat by a 70mil WR when our DL got no first half pressure? Legion of Boom, ain’t the legion of boom when Bennett and the front 7 arent pressuring the Qb. You don’t shut down Julio without pressuring the QB…
It really looked a lot like last years team amd thats what so frustrating. The Falcons may be a playoff team but thats what this year is about, beating teams that make it to the playoffs.
Very well said Tommy, This game was lost in the trenches, Falcons controlled the line of scrimmage the entire first half on both sides of the ball. Birds got it together in 2nd half but it was too late
We have had issues with the Shanahan’s scheme before with the Eagles in 2013, think the play action and the deep play action bootlegs really cause us issues. So much of our pass rush is misdirection and with everything in front of the QB.
Having said that we could have had 4-5 picks especially if Jenkins could catch the ball, and while we got torched on some plays we were in position to force a lot of turn overs and confuse an elite QB.
My biggest concern was the run game, we pretty much moved to a west coast style short passing game as a proxy since we struggled to get it going so much in the first half. We will need that to start working for this team to make any waves this year.
Chip Kelly takes what he’s given. If Atlanta takes away the running game, Chip is going to pass. The problem was that Bradford was just off his game in the first half. If he passes in the first half, like he did in the second half, perhaps we win that game going away.
Sorry but I’ve no mood for excuses. This team supposedly gets more reps in practice so there’s no excuse to be flailing around out there in the first half or uncertain about whether to kick on 4th and 1. There is no excuse for an ineffective run game when CK let 2 starting guards and the starting RB go and spent millions on the RB replacement. There is no excuse for leaving Julio Jones singled up so often or for Maxwell to be outrun by a 34 year old on a crossing route. There is no excuse for choosing to run up the middle on 3d and 1 when you haven’t been able to run inside all night. They were outplayed and outcoached by a less expensive and less hyped team that was simply better prepared.
I’m not concerned with the run/pass ratio. When you’re behind the entire game, that’s what the ratio looks like.
Exactly! This wasn’t one of those Andy Reid disaster games where ignoring a potent running game was a self inflicted wound, there was plenty of game context that dictated that we HAD to pass. We were behind by 3 scores and our running game was doing nothing and the rare times it did function properly the refs called holding and made it 1st and 20. How was calling more failed runs going to help us? Plus the passing game was moving up and down the field at will in the second half and our last drive only stalled when we inexplicably went back to the run. I think people are just conditioned from the Reid era to blast any out of whack run:pass ratio regardless of in game context.
I’ll agree that the 2nd half was driven by context. OTOH, 27 pass attempts in the first half of a game that was close for the majority of that half is Andy-like, even when taking the hurry up into account. Supposedly, the passing game is set up by an effective run game and play-action. Play action is laughable when your big money back has 4 carries to those 27 pass attempts.
I’m still a Chip believer, but I’m not a big fan of game plans that involve 45 plus pass attempts.
Eh, it was 3-0 for most of the first half (even though it felt like more). I can’t complain too much about the ratio, though, since we weren’t able to gain any yards at all when we did try to run.
Pats started 2-2 before getting it going last year. We have to figure out a way to get angry like they did after the Chiefs blew them out, then figure out how to cheat.
i remember after their loss to the Chiefs, Donovan was on Fox sports 1 and said it was time for Brady to be benched and to start the Jimmy Garoppolo era…..Randy Moss looked at him like he had 3 heads
LOL!
Probabky was drunk on the set
http://giphy.com/gifs/stare-donovan-mcnabb-ToMjGpwNWT3C9VMORLW
I told YOU ALL I TOLD YOU. THIS COACH IS A FRAUD AND THIS TEAM IS A FRAUD. ARE YOU DRINKING THAT COOLAID need to damn STOP. THIS TEAM SUCKS AND IS A TOTAL FRAUD
I found Mort guys!!!!!
Morton was clever, not a doltish troll
True at least he had points to go along with his negativity. Can’t say he was wrong about Reid in the long run actually. lol
Morton never came back and owned up when he was wrong, that’s what really made him grating in my opinion. If you’re going to portray yourself as the purveyor of wisdom and truth for the masses, you better hit 100% or be willing to swallow your pride and admit you were wrong.
Morton’s scouting report of Luke Kuechly when he was considered a target by us was absolute solid gold…Mort thought he sucked…Kuechly turned out to be a pro bowler…
EaglesFANqq, needs to be banned.
No team has ever won the Super Bowl after losing their opening game. NEVER.
You just made up a complete fucking lie to make a point. Go back and learn your history.
But are you being treated? THATS the real question.
For delusions, because he’s re-writing history.
Treated for what? Not liking the Chip Kelly? That’s what is wrong with you. You think someone is insane for not liking Chip Kelly. You blind dumb sheep.
LOL. Patriots last year one of many
There have been 8 eventual Superbowl winners that lost their 1st game. And 1 Superbowl winner that finished with a tie in the their 1st game. So you are wrong 8 1/2 times.
And this will be the 50th super bowl. Nice stats
Hey Retard, You said NO team has won the Superbowl after losing the first game. 8 teams have lost the 1st game and won the superbowl. The most recent was last years winner, before that I would say the Giants in 07′ and 11′ are the most recent SUPERBOWL winners that started the season 0-1. Can you comprehend the facts now that is spelled out for you. You are still 8 1/2 times wrong, even if it Superbowl 100.
that’s almost 20%
Troll alert.
Coping with Losses, an Exercise
[Sentence used to express my displeasure about the preceding night’s game]
[Here I’ll arbitrarily blame a single player for the loss]
[A paragraph to discuss the various wrong decisions made by the Head Coach]
[There were some positive moments as well, this paragraph will discuss them in detail]
[It is important to note the schedule and current standings to imply that at this stage in the season, there are more games left than have been played by a large margin]
[OPTIMISM]
[COWBOYS SUCK]
That game sucked! I too all of my friends how great the Eagles are!
21 for 25?!?!?! What happened on thos other 4 passes!! F’in Bradford!!!
[too lazy too write this paragraph, but the team will be fine. Focus on the 2nd half]
There are 15 regular season games left. We’re only 6.25% of the Way in. Plenty of games to fix this thing.
We saw some great things in the 2nd half. The Eagles are just getting started. If the first half is the worst they’ll play this year, it’s all good.
[not sarcastic] cowboys suuuucccckkkk!!!!!!!
I feel so much better! And I actually believe most of what I wrote.
I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion! Go Eagles!
I don’t understand the point of comparing 1st games from this year and last year. Neither have to do with one another.
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it’s good the rb’s were part of the passing game. However, I’m not a fan of a rb being the second leading receiver. Is that a sign of things to come where NA/Cooper/Huff/Miles are basically invisible each game? (not panic, just asking). I’m expecting a better passing attack.
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I think it was a poor decision by Sproles to field that last punt inside the 5.
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Still 0-1 is nothing for a season. I’m still excited about this team…
I think the point of comparing the games was quite clear in the article.
the comparing was clear — the comparing doesn’t make sense — useless…
“I think it was a poor decision by Sproles to field that last punt inside the 5.” – eagleyankfan
We needed a field goal to win the game. I’ll take my chances letting Sproles field the punt rather than taking it on the 20 or risking that it’s downed near the goal line.
odds or avg. yards return to get to the 20 are low. By him fielding the ball and running, time was wasted. Rule number 1 in punt returning – don’t field inside the 5. I don’t think there’s any good that could have happened.
You’re probably right. My gut (which is a poor judge of football) still wanted Sproles to run it out.
The run/pass totals ARENT ideal, but we left like 9 plays 100 yards or so on the ground, called back frpor holding penalties which DONT count in the run pass totals, but fhip still did call run plays… Without those holding penalties we probably be talking about how awesome the RBs were
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silver Linning we had a QB who hasn’t played in two years, was really challenged on Monday night, and he responded well, he threw 50 passes and took almost 10 hits, he got some real good work in that should help erase the rust…
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More important then anything we saw last night, we got out of whacky week 1 healthy…
Yeah, he started to look really good in the 2nd half. I think he can carry this team during games this season. Once the line started playing better, he was on point.
The team is still gelling, and we put up 3 TDs in the 2nd half. I’m not worried about the offense.
He also looked a lot like Brady attacking seattle secondrY with all Tbose precise intermediate crossers, more importantly, like Brady, yes the OL played much better, but Bradford also helped the OL a lot by knowing where the open man would be and getting the ball out quick…
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Plenty to be encouraged about, plenty to fix and improve upon…. So many new faces, no substitute for gelling besides being on the battle field, facing adversity with your brothers, making adjustments with your new teammates,,
We should see a team that grows with each game that passes and see a beat of a team in November that will look much different then tbis seasons starting point(last night)
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Still looked better then the Cowboys, Giamts Defense was a Joke compared to Atlantas
Yeah, without Dez we should lock them down next week.
i think it will be a dog fight and another close game, sometimes when a team loses a couple players they step up their game energy wise, plus it’s a divisional opponent
If we won last night, I would definitely agree,,, but this team will be pissed off sunday, because of last night, the shit dallas talks, and the team motivated to perform for demarco on Sunday….. Sunday would worry me so much more if we lost last night…zero chance anyone comes out with more energy then us on Sunday, at least I hope…
COle Beasley will be our next hated cowboy…
Its actually kinda sas that someone from the Cowboys, Redskins, etc, would create multiple accounts to “troll” us on this board. A person like that must really have ABSOLUTELY nothing going for them to continue to come here.
lol yea that guy posts almost as much as GEAGLE. almost.
Not sure why but I wasn’t as pissed about losing last night as I normally would be. As bad as they were in the first half, 2 penalties cost them the game (the illegal contact on Kiko that nullified the sack/fumble before the Falcons scored their last TD in the 1st half and the hold on Kelce that killed a big play on the Eagles last drive). Looked like Atlanta stacked to stop the run so Chip countered with the short passing game in the second half. Bradford looked good though and held up to a full game with lots of hits. Still feel good about this team and this season. Need to beat Dallas this week though and get back on track.
i feel the same exact way, i’ve never watched a game and been so frusterated and have it end on a pick…only to feel very serine afterwards, i slept like a baby last night
same, it’s like we needed to lose to wake the fuck up and get shit straight. tommy nailed the jags opener comparison
we lost the game on our own, but the refs were fucking shit last night. from phantom calls on us to what seemed like a missed holding call on every other falcons jet sweep made it that much more difficult to win
it’s not why we lost but I thought the Falcons OL were holding a lot.
there were quite a few plays I thought could have been called given how tight the refs were calling it, but that’s not why we lost.
Beat Dallas, Seattle beat the pack and all the NFC big dogs will be tied at 1-1 after sunday
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I’d like this team to win 3 of every 4 games, so if we roll off 3’wins, I will forget all about this loss
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colts, Seattle, Ravens, Eagles all lost week 1, that hardly removes these clubs from Super Bowl contention. no matter how great or Terribke we were going to perform last night, it was always going to be a starting point for a team with so many new faces THATS should grow significantly as they gel after getting some games under their belt together ..
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Stupid to blame anyone for last night, because truth is their was plenty that needs to be improved on and worked out… can’t kill the corners when the pass rush ismt getting home… The rush turned it up in the second half, and julio only caught 1 pass, of course atlanta was also more conservative because we had them on their heels… Plenty to learn from and improve upon so we can kick dallas ass on Sunday… Thank god for the short week
Good points. The overreactions here are outrageous.
Yeah, I try to just answer my own posts and not read the rest of the comment sections on days like this
THe team sucked. So many problems. I was right all along.
Yeah your comments do not make much sense, you’re incoherent, you’re in need of therapy immediately. I’m bipolar, sometimes crazy manic, and I’m way ahead of you in sanity.
True, no one person is to blame for everything. Everyone played crappy last night, and the coaches didn’t seem to be prepared to start the game. Everyone made adjustments in the 2nd half, but it wasn’t enough.
I may be critical of Davis, but with 5 new starters on each side of the ball they still need to work out some kinks.
I blame the trenches first and foremost, especially since I have no doubts they are capable of so much more,, OL let the Atlanta front 7 whip on them in the first half and the pass Rush did the corners no favors… Both lines got it together in the second half and we saw a much different game,, I think the refs were a little ridiculuos. Called us for everything and let the Falcon OL get away with a lot, but no excuse, we should be able to overcome the refs,,
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A lot to be excited about. People see the most recent game and think THATS how their entire season will be, but teams can Imporve a ton from one week to the next..,doubt last night was an accurate representation of the brand of ball this 2015 teams will play…. Just make sure we learn from sunday, don’t let it be in vain, come out Ornery pissed off and ready to dominate the line of scrimage sunday against cowscum
Think the pass rush was not the so much the issue in the 1st half. It was the fact that we could not deal with their sweep plays and their perimeter run game. That had our OLB’s having to really commit to setting the edge on play action, and from there you will not get pressure on the QB on boot action passes.
This is not the first time we have had issues with this however, the Racists have been giving us issues for 2 years with a heavy dose of boot legs and play action off a perimeter run game.
No pass rush on majority of plays Maxwell got beat.., corners DONT shut down that caliber WR when the pass rush is non existent… Everything starts in the trenches
Guess what i am saying is we need to rush the passer better – but i am not blaming the OLB’s – i am blaming the entire front 7 for not stopping the run early and that intern opening up some brutal play action
I didn’t single out any OLBs.. Pass defense is about coordinating a pass rush with coverage, one doesnt work without the other.. The legion of Boom gets beat when the pass rush doesn’t get home.. If anything I blame the front 7 more then the corners because front 7 is our strength and I know how much more they are capable of then what they showed in the first half when the front 7 left Maxwell out to dry getting no pressure,,.
bill d only sent 4 until he started blitzing later in the game, falcons were in max protect most games, which is apparently typical for them.
Look if we play like the 2nd half and start to execute better we can be a really good team. To quote Aaron Rogers from last year after 4 games, R-E-L-A-X.
However the 1st half offensive woes to me are the big take away from the game. The Falcons brought a lot of run blitz’s early and we could not handle it at all. Our guards were getting beaten pretty much clean and they have no track record that that will not be an ongoing concern.
We have some very good front 7’s to play this year, and while we will surely get better if this offence cannot run the ball effectively we will have no chance this year of being a quality team.
Second half we pulled a move from the Andy Reid playbook and abandoned the run and replaced it with a quick passing game to exploit their run blitz’s but that is a tough way to win games and will put a massive amount of pressure on Bradford if we need to do that consistently.
I remember thinking in the 1st quarter: “they are really flying off the ball, everyone on the field is just sprinting like crazy all over the place, they are going to burn out in the 4th quarter”
It was true, but the damage was done.
it looked like they had 15 guys on the DL.
Is Agholar with his one catch for 5 yards a product of the system – or does he just straight up suck?
your the expert
He had a 3rd round grade. He sucks.
No one believes that Agholar deserved a third round grade but I can readily believe that you’re in the third grade.
Fellas over at Chipwagon has some of breakdowns of the breakdowns in the run game.
Looks like Barbre and Gardner had some issues to say the least.
Even if we ultimately missed the FG, I would have felt a lot better about Sam Bradford if he was able to drive the team into position to win the game.
Yes, I realize JMatt dropped the game-ending INT.
But one of the knocks on Sam has been that he’s not a guy who steps it up with the game on the line. I’m not sure he has many “4th Q comeback, game-winning drives” on his resume at all.
Will be nice to see him get it done at some point. If he can.
if the line blocks on the 3rd and 1, things would have been different…
Well yea I’d feel better, but he wasn’t the one who kept us from driving. He made a great pass to Matthews that went right through the kids hands and was picked off. Can’t judhe Sam negatively because of that. I was more concerned with the first down dump off to Sproles. Losing 30 seconds to gain one yard was dumb. Throwing it away would have been a better choice.
Yeah i did think wistfully of Nicky on that final drive. Not that i blame Bradford – the pass was fine (not perfect but plenty good enough) and Matthews has to catch that.
However i did not like several 3rd down check downs through out the game. He did this ALL THE TIME with the Rams and it sent me nuts. Looks great in the box score to complete a 9 yard pass but if you needed 11 to move the chains its pretty much the same as an incomplete pass.
That and he need to attack deep a couple of times. I know a QB needs to have a clock but behind this OL they will block it all up at times and you have to judge when you can take 4 seconds to get that deep pass open for the x-play. Those open up the defence giving more room for eveything else and not exploiting the fact we have the best pair of pass blocking tackles in the league is a mistake.
so you know JMatt dropped the ball, but you blame Sammy anyway. Tough crowd.
Okay, but in fairness, he hits on some open 25-yarders instead of needing multiple 8 yard passes maybe it never gets to that. Dink and dunk requires a lot to go right. Who successfully used it for a long time? Brady, Pennington?
would like to have seen downfield passing hopefully media will ask that question.
Just venting man. And 3rd & 9 wasn’t a great spot to be in thanks to the first two downs in which Sam didn’t show much.
How can you question the clutchness based on the game, when he had to enter the second half down 20-3, and overcome two drives with combined double digit penalties.
Because he didn’t get it done in the last two minutes and has a history of not exactly getting it done in those situations?
I don’t think it’s out of bounds to ask the question, and for all we know in an alternate universe where Matthews makes that catch, we win the game, and this entire question is moot for the moment.
But we’re also talking about my subjective feelings about Bradford-the-Franchise-Quarterback, which has a whole season to go before we need a referendum on it.
Plenty of time to prove himself.
it’s a knock, but we were driving. 2nd to last drive we took the ball out of bradford’s hands and last drive we get a good pass that’s dropped for a pick. This game isn’t totally on bradford.
Yeah, people will automatically blame the guy they don’t like when things go wrong.
On the previous drive, Bradford drove the team down the field for the game winning field goal. We just missed the kick. Then he was driving the team down the field again when he hit matthews in the hands.
I don’t think we have to worry about Bradford being clutch. (Although we’ll still have to see him throw a red zone touchdown to win it, before we know for sure.)
sucks we lost but in a way this should be a wake up call because last year we got a little a head of our selfs and took ourselves out of the playoffs. All the problems we saw last night were fixable on to Dallas. Credit Atlanta their defense has improved.
Barbre is fixable? THe Offensive Line is NOT fixable. Byron Maxwell is NOT fixable. Philthy fans should be sukcing on Bryant’s dikc for getting injured.
Julio Jones is a top 5 wr. he will do this to a lot of cbs. Plus you dont think Dan quinn who coached Maxwell knew how to beat him. OLine needs to be addressed and we all know that
Top 5 is selling Julio short. He’s 100% a top3, and possibly the best right now.
whyd you pick this site?
He’s a troll
John Gruden made a very good point about the Parkey miss. He was very rushed in his routine due to the fact that the coaches were mulling over going for it. Rushing your young kicker who struggled in the preseason, in a harsh environment, is probably not a good idea.
One thing that stands out about Chip is that he doesn’t EVER challenge plays that would leave him with a yard to go. It seems like even if it leaves him with 4-1, and he is in a situation where he wants to go for that 1, he isn’t going to challenge. He would rather keep tempo and go for it. Not sure if I love that or hate it. I think I can recall one instance in 3 years where he didn’t challenge the sure thing and it bit him in the ass. Even though it was obvious Jordan scored, I can see not leaving it in the hands of the refs when you feel like you can’t be stopped. My fantasy squad really wanted that TD, but it worked out. I will say that perhaps he needs to get a better review team in place or to trust their judgement better.
Yes the falcons passing game went off. To an extent that is to be expected. You can only hold the river back so much in the Georgia Dome. I honestly felt like Carroll, Thurmond, and Jenkins played amazingly. In fact, I feel like those 3 guys were the brightest spot on the defense. Byron got abused. Makes me feel good that I was pretty right that Williams wasn’t that bad. Sucks that he isn’t going to shut down Julio. Really though, would anyone bet against a healthy Julio against any DB when he is home, and has a healthy Roddy White? Davis clearly has faith in Bryon. I won’t lose it yet.
Pass rush was disturbing. Is their line actually that improved? There was some success in the second half, but not consistently.
Where is the inside push? Chip through inside runs out of the playbook. Rightly so.
Just one game, we are fine. Seattle lost to the Rams. Green Bay struggled against the Bears for a big spell. Not a bad idea to pump the breaks, but we are fine.
Byron is a solid CB – he did not give up the huge TD run all game and while Julio got his he did cover well at times. The problem is that it is unrealistic to expect him to hang with a top 5 WR all game 1v1 and not give up passes especially when the plays are drawn up to give Ryans 4-5 seconds.
Think this is how Billy wants it however. He is going to stop the run game, take away the short passes to TE’s and RB’s and say can you drive the length of field consistently just by passing to WR’s.
Not sure if that is how i would do it personally but it will produced turn overs. We had 2 picks and could have had 2+ more. add in a fumble or 2 and this defence could lead the league in turn overs.
While I do agree a better pass rush is needed. Maxwell we beat off the line, just about all game.
Byron was getting toasted by a slower and older Roddy White too. He didn’t play well.
Re: pass rush, other reporters are saying Falcons kept 6-7 in to block a lot. When Davis started sending the blitz, The pass rush started doing some work.
that’s true against a 4 person rush which means that 2-3 receivers we beating 5-6 dbs/LBs
Yep…
When Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Roddy White get 4-5 seconds to execute a pass, they’re going to execute a fair amount of the time, even against great defenses (which the Eagles are not).
All in all, I thought the pass D was about what they’ve been selling us on – not dominant, will give up yards and some plays, but will also create turnovers, somewhat along the lines of the Saints’ SB defense. They had 2 picks, and could have easily had 2 more. So, in general, the pass defense’s performance was about what I expected, especially against a top 3 WR paired with a very good QB.
Athletically speaking Julio is the best WR in the game right now.
I feel he is the best, especially with injuries starting to add up on Calvin, but I didn’t want it to devolve into an argument over who’s the best.
any wr1 that pays eagles is going to be best in game right now.
Just like any TE who played against the Eagles in Reid’s last 7 years.
Rushing the kick would be a solid excuse if this was Parkey’s only miss. But he was missing all preseason, so no one really knows what the true cause was.
We saw the same thing with Henery; repeated confidence from the coaching staff until eventually they couldn’t ignore his incompetence any longer.
“(Parker) was missing all preseason” – BlindChow
Dude, Parkey missed a field goal and an extra point in the preseason. It’s a bad idea to build your argument on a fictional foundation.
Seems like the fans who bought into the preseason hype are quite pissed today. I wasn’t and losing on the road to the Falcons isn’t a huge setback.
Eagles need to win this week at home vs a semi-depleted Dallas team. Yeah they still could go 10-4 or better to make the playoffs but this team has too many flaws to expect that kind of performance over the rest of the season.
Jamaal Jackson said after the game last night he thought Maxwell simply didn’t look comfortable in the scheme last night & wasn’t getting set at the line and doing what he needed to within the first 2 yards.
yeah missed all his jams and he’s a lot slower than i thought. He def needs safety help. I think he’s used to having earl bail him out or some of those passes and our safeties aren’t earl level.
Here’s a good sign. Eagles were 3-4 in the RZ. Much better than last year.
def some good takeaways, but we have all the same issues as last year — expensive secondary that’s not that good against good WRs, OL is weak, not converting short yardage situations the way we need to.
I checked out some of the pics over at Chipwagon, and it looked like the 2 guards are the weakest spot, at least in the run game. Barbre and Gardner took turns blowing blocks.
I agree though that there were some good takeaways (now that I’ve had a chance to sleep on it). I think once we see the All-22s there will be more good takeaways.
yeah Chipwagon putting a lot of blame on guard play — not surprised, they’re nobodies — hopefully it gets better next week. But hard to understand why they are having trouble executing signature plays
Yeah that’s a bit alarming.
Our guard play should surprise no one. The handling of that position was Chips worst move as a GM by far. The results are exactly what should be expected when two players who had been either all-pros or solid veterans leave and you replace them with a 31 year old journeyman with 8 career NFL starts and whoever ends up being the least shitty of your 3rd string UDFA at the position. There’s going to be a noticeable drop off.
Herremans was no longer a solid veteran, but yeah, Gardner being overmatched shouldn’t really be that much of a surprise to anyone – we watched that movie last year.
I didn’t say that Herremans was still a solid veteran or that he didn’t need to be replaced. What I said was that we replaced someone who HAD been a solid veteran with a marginal, bottom of the roster type player. Go ahead and replace an aging broken Herremans, but do so with someone other than your 3rd stringer.
http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Steelers-Brandon-Boykin-doesnt-know-why-he-didnt-play-vs-Pats-39441822 poor Boykin. According to this article, the Eagles released Boykin…
Hmm. Not getting on the field as much as he feels he should, discussing his disagreement with the coaches in the media and claiming he does not know their reason but he is going to ask pretty soon?
I think I heard this song before. Boykin is doing something coaches don’t like.
It’s sort of amazing being a kicker anything under 45-50y you HAVE to be automatic or you’re getting fired. pretty high level of performance required.
at least he hit the PAT’s, progress!
I semi accept Gruden’s excuse for him, but that’s the last one, we need to start nailing those reliably.
I don’t except it at all. If you’re outdoors, wind/rain etc — sure, that’s tricky — indoors? No excuse. Do your job.
I can see it, rushed out at the last second because we were considering going for it. Heavy pressure coming from the left, ends up shanking it to the right. He needs to make those, but it wasn’t as easy as people make it out to be either.
meh. It’s all he does. Kick. That’s what he practices every day. They even practice “pressure” time kicks too. He has 1 job to do. Do well, you last forever.
I get it, but It wasn’t typical pressure off the edge, it was literally a guy jumping over our lineman before he got out of his stance coming straight at him. It just was not a typical play in any way. There’s always a guy that comes from the side and dives to try to make a block, but this was a tad different.
CK should have went for it anyway 🙂
or called a TO
I so agree. I wanted him to be big balls Chip so badly there.
Was Chip Kelly there for the Redskins game last year? Kody Parkey Sucks FUKCING BALLS!!!
he was injured in that game i thought.
please watch the games. Dont come on here and spout ignorance.
looked it up, he had a groin injury
at least now we know he’s a Washington-team troll. No body watched those games, lol.
He’s a troll, don’t respond to him.
QQ is a crying person, like QQ about it
Eagles fan QQ, get it?
I prefer QQQQ (that would be 4Q spoken loudly!)
Doesn’t sound like Parkey’s in danger of being fired.
Ahhh dallas land is starting to be sick to their stomach as they learn more about the Dez injury..l,Joel Embiid fans know feet problems are nothing to screw with… DEz needs a screw in his 5th metacarpal , and he is going to rush to come back on something that is a danger to break again if you don’t be careful, skip Bayless and all the cowboy fans are miserable on Twitter, Sky is falling in dallas and we are just getting started
I’m going to do this as I get these stats.
Sam Bradford had a 69.7 completion percentage last night.
You could complete 100% of 6 yard passes.
Then I would throw every down, every game, every year. I would never even reach third down. I would literally be unstoppable.
and I’d have you and your wr on my fantasy team and I would be unstoppable as well…
and you would be named Tom Brady
I feel like McNabb was 100% on 6 yard passes… on 3rd and 10’s.
This is impressive. And he got off to such a cold start. Suggests good things to come.
Eagles TE Zach Ertz played 70 percent of the offensive snaps on Monday night. I think we might go back to seeing Celek a lot in order to get the run game going. Maybe more unbalanced lines and we run between Johnson and Peters.
Ertz was on his ass one play — badly getting whipped. I hate to say it, but Celek does need more game time. Not impressed with Ertz.
Ertz is really good but he’s a soft little Stanford boy.
Yeah, I noticed the snap count on Ertz too. Ertz wasn’t even expected to play because he had “core” surgery four weeks ago. Instead his snap count eclipses Celeks. I think Ertz’ time as the starting tight end has finally arrived.
Defense had 6 TFL that equaled 19 yards lost.
That sucks. Demarco had a -14 yard rush in one single play.
I think that was most ridiculous miss on forward progress I have ever seen.
Bring back Reid if you really want to succeed at the dink and dunk passes!!!
Here’s what the Cowboy will do against the Eagles. Pound the ball run the ball pound the shitt out of this defensive line. THen throw to Whitten. Whitten is going to have a huge game against this crappy defense and the Cowboys will win. Time of possession will be disgustingly in favor of the Cowboys. Sorry Eagles, looking 0-2.
your a pretty Fungi
IT’S WITTEN YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER! YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME! WHO THE FUCK IS WHITTEN YOU ASSHOLE!
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Goal to Goal Efficiency: 3-3
Shut up, wtf does that even mean? THEY SUCKED
Yeah, really? Who wants to know or understand the statistics that describe what happened in the game? What we need is more people shouting in uninformed absolutes.
I think now is the time for bold proclamations about the future of personnel, the direction of the organization, and the intellect of the fans. What do you think?
Disagree. Now is the time for ALL CAPS PROCLAMATIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF PERSONNEL, THE DIRECTION OF THE ORGANIZATION, AND THE INTELLECT OF THE FANS.
I”M AM SO SMART! S-M-R-T!!!!!!
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Barwin – ‘We had a lot of breakdowns in our assignments especially in zone.’
Yup.
Barwin needs to get back on the steroids. He is lucky that pass bounced off his head.
At least that was good for a laugh.
Barwin – “We really didn’t make make adjustments at half. . . We just tightened up in the 2nd half. ”
Curious to see if this was true but it certainly seemed like the changed the blitz packages and brought more pressure from the edge/corner in the 2nd half.
Interesting. They looked flat to start the game on both sides of the ball.
My fear was that we didn’t make any adjustments, rather Atlanta just adjusted to play like they were protecting a 20-3 lead, which never ever works.
The idea that the plan was a pep talk to play better and it looked effective because Atlanta is stupid, terrifies me.
There’s no reason to volunteer information about anything, let alone adjustments. If the next team can’t pick it up from the film, sucks to be them.
[…] Lawlor of Iggles Blitz breaks down the game against Atlanta […]
Okay, this is funny.
http://imgur.com/FDohTmQ
priceless.
Argued over the summer that Maxwell was the least talented member of the legion of boom and benefited tremendously from playing with that secondary/in that defense. Didn’t like him as a target for us at that price tag. Felt he wouldn’t be nearly the same player for us as he was in Seattle.
Guess we’ll see as the season goes along if I was right or not.
really what els would we have done, can’t bring fletch and sconces back, there wasn’t a lot left on the market. If we’d have gotten maxwell + the pats safety might have looked better last night.
Julio Jones is a tough matchup for anyone. I’m not ready to call him a bust after 1 game, but we now know that he’s not a guy to shadow a receiver across the field.
did he shadow? i saw Carroll on him some.
Early on he did. He got Julio in the slot a couple times in the 1st half.
we have no solutions at slot
I’m not calling him a bust after one game, I’m just saying what I said over the summer and that we’ll see how it plays out during the season, but this was not a good start.
Also, Roddy White roasted him a few times too, and Roddy White is much older and slower than Julio.
I hated the shadowing. There were multiple plays where he got picked by the other team; it’s hard to navigate the entire width of the field around other people to follow your man around.
Frustrating, yes. But not devastated after the 2nd half. That turn around made me feel better. Seeing Bradford come back like that (especially with the ticky-tacky penalties) was awesome. A win would have been much better as every game is important in the NFL. But that being said, I’d rather they lose now in September “shaking off the rust” than in December when the season is on the line.
Two points:
1) the missed field goad was rushed. Chip spent too much time debating on whether or not to kick it and when the FG team ran out there were only 15 seconds left on the clock. Cody barely had time to get set when the ball was snapped. Faster judgements or call a time out.
2) the adjustments made after the half made me so happy (again) that Big Red is no longer in Philly. Chip can make adjustments and change his game plan. They wanted to run the ball and it wasn’t there, so they started passing and it was wide open. Reid would stay with his game plan until the bitter end whether it was working or not.
looked a lot like last year where we were passing the ball 50times a game at the end of the season.
Get ready for an exciting comment section season, we have a commentator who is completely off his fucking rocker. Is this new? Have I missed something?
There’s two of them, or one just using two accounts.
Well I guess every blog needs an angry person or two. So far I just noticed the one overly negative crazy out of his mind nut. I’m bipolar myself, and I’m taken aback by him. LOL
There’s a few, but honestly for the internet this is a remarkably level headed and friendly atmosphere, the people who don’t fit the #culture of Igglesblitz tend to weed themselves out, which is cool.
Easily the best Eagles blog in my opinion because we don’t have the Cowboys, Redskins or Giants fans trolling and reminded us of the zero Super Bowls. Or any other fans from the team we are playing that week for that matter.
Plus we don’t have people telling each other constantly that their fucking stupid or they should die or whatever other nonsense you see on other boards. We might disagree with each other here but we’re pretty civil about it most of the time.
Yep, I glance at the other blogs but stay here 99 percent of the time.
Well, there’s a couple on here that do that.
People do a good job of policing this site to help Tommy. That kind of stuff usually gets shut down quickly. I don’t know if I can blame people if they go off on crazy guy though. He told us so after one week, this team sucks!!!!!!!
He’s been here for years.
My crazy guy’s name ends in two q’s.
That’s an internet Troll
QQ is internet lingo, it’s supposed to look like a crying emoji. It’s used like a verb. “Go QQ about it”=”Go cry about it”
Eagles Fan QQ
Yeah one thing I’ll say is that people on here are pretty responsive to obvious trolls like Longding. Kind of disappointing really, just because they’re not even clever trolls, they’re really obvious.
Oh forgot about that asshole. Yeah, that’s the other one.
Thats the goal of it. The more ridiculous, the more obvious they can be, the more jollies they get out of it. They feel superior that way.
But football speaks to so many generations, and we are so well represented here by every generation. A lot of guys are just easy targets. Trolling just culturally isn’t a thing for so many people.
Yeah that’s a good point about the generational thing. I’m guessing our older respondents aren’t aware of how trolls operate.
And yes, they get their jollies that way, but I bet it’s extra special for them here because we value ourselves as a more “intelligent” or thoughtful community, so getting people here all worked up is probably even better than trolling SB Nation or EMB.
For those who don’t know how trolls operate, the best thing to do is just never respond, at all. Literally. Don’t even say go away or you’re trolling. They feed off the attention, and if you’ve replied to them they’ve obviously gotten to you in some way. Just ignore them. Always.
Good point, I just fed the troll below because I couldn’t resist, but that’s the best advice. Don’t feed the trolls.
Yep, you’ve got it. They want you to respond, that’s why they intentionally make ridiculous statements, and then they get a buzz off of feeling smarter or superior to you because you didn’t detect that they’re playing or conning you. If they get literally no response they will move on to other pastures because they need the response to make it worthwhile.
I have to admit I am baffled like why do this how can it be fun for you? what a waste of time. I guess I am older IB member. Sigh.
Also, get off my lawn.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Short story even shorter: Internet trolls are generally pretty unhealthy psychologically speaking.
thanks ok I won’t respond again to him
Look below at one of his comments. He is talking about how ‘Whitten” is going to destroy us. Whitten, ok then.
Learn something new every day. Makes sense why he’s a troll.
Looked it up, actually invented with the advent of Warcraft II. ” Thus the term “QQ” was to tell people to just quit because they are
unskilled. The term later developed and lost it’s origin and is usually
mistaken as crying eyes.”
Makes sense.
wonder if he trolls in his “other life” too..
dang Warcraft 2 is before my time on the real time strategy scene. I’m actually into RTS, starting back in the 90’s with Starcraft then WC3, actually played some SC2 with a friend after the game last night, was so amped up I couldn’t sleep. Crazy coincidence. They really buttoned up in the last 20 years with the etiquette. If you don’t say gg (good game) at the end of games you’re considered rude. And you’re only to say gg if you are conceding defeat. If you say gg before the match is concluded as a way of declaring victory, you are considered a raving jackass. hah
Oh wow. I thought he was relatively new.
He’s talking about G
I said since day -1 Chip KELLY IS A FRAUD. AND YOU ALL CONTINUALLY WANT TO SUCK HIM OFF. GO AHEAD BC1968er go suck off Chip Kelly!
Chip KELLY IS A FRAUD! YALL DRINK THAT KOOLAID BUT CHIP KELLY IS A TOTAL AND COMPLETE f-r-a-u-d
Andy Reid denied reports RT Eric Fisher (ankle) requested to be benched for Week 1 because he was not ready to deal with J.J. Watt. “I know things are out there. That’s ridiculous,” Reid said. “I was the one that watched him practice. I thought if I put him out there, I’d put him in a terrible situation.”
Players I’m Concerned About, From Most to Least
1. Andrew Gardner
2. DeMeco Ryans
3. Allen Barbre
4. Brandon Graham
5. Byron Maxwell
The OG issues have been documented.
I’m not sure what DeMeco Ryans is doing on the field. He’s not ready to go yet. Should be inactive. Kiko still has some rust to shake off in that he wasn’t attacking like I thought he could, but clearly the superior player.
Brandon Graham is concerning. From the naked eye, he did not get much pressure on Ryan, and didn’t do a great job of setting the edge.
Defense overall felt slow last night. The interior DL was getting penetration and blowing plays up, but LBs and Safeties felt slow to fill gaps, and Graham did a poor job of setting the edge when it was his responsibility.
The most puzzling thing of all last night for me was the 3 person ILB rotation. I mean I know Chip values ‘Meco’s leadership, but what the fuck? There’s no way they couldn’t have known that he wasn’t ready to go, and you have 2 healthy stud ILBs right there.
Graham I agree didn’t impress and it’s gonna be a long season if we can’t generate pass rush from our OLBs. Barwin had nice stats last year but isn’t truly a stud rusher, and Graham is pretty untested as a starter.
The good news is Fletcher Cox is an absolute stud and can generate interior pass rush, so not all hope is lost.
be interesting to see where vinny curry played
ROLB from what I saw. Was pretty ineffective in pass rush.
haven’t seen him use moves other than speed rush, hopefully msii gets healthy.
Not really surprised. I have a hard time imagining his best attribute, quick first step, helping him generate pass rush out wide. I’m sure they’re seeing something that I don’t, and they have a specific plan to exploit it, but I haven’t understood that move at all.
no other option.
Actually, I’d rather Nolan Carroll play that (situational pass rusher at OLB) than Vinny. I’d rather keep Curry inside, where his step is extremely disruptive. Heck, any of the ILBs shifted out would be better, from what I’ve seen. So there are certainly options, maybe none are good, but I don’t see how Curry at OLB is best amongst them, either. Again, there’s likely something Curry can do there that they think they can exploit in the long run, but I just don’t see it.
“19. Eagles (0-1; No. 14): People are surprised that the Ringo Starr of the Legion of Boom didn’t perform like Paul McCartney?” precipitous fall on the power rankings.
Oof, that’s harsh. I don’t think 19 is fair after the opener. I could see us tumbling down to 10 – 12 range but really? A bottom half team?
so — why didn’t CK challenge the JM touchdown?
interesting there he decided to go for it on a 1-yd situation even though jmatt had the TD, but later no balls.
bingo.
Well the good thing is that Merrill Reese was able to make the next call and say that Matthews was banged from behind to get in the end zone. Beautiful wording. But yeah, that should have been a challenge.
I know there’s the “1 yard” qualifier for challenges but I also wonder whether the tempo has an effect on decision-making. Whoever our replay-wizard is has to be on his (or her) game. The broadcast replay of his foot didn’t come until 20 seconds left on the play-clock…
Made little sense to me, why risk a couple stops and being put in a 4th and 1 situation? It worked out but I’m not sure it was the right move.
Exactly. Holding penalty, missed assignment and suddenly you’re looking at another Parkey situation.
Yep, or a false start. Plus it was late in the game, he would have won the challenge, still have another challenge in his pocket, and after 2 minutes left it goes to booth reviews anyhow.
I know he wants to uptempo but it seemed worth it to take an extra 10 seconds there to figure out if it was a score.
Even worse, Chip not challenging made me lose in fantasy. Had J. Matthews and lost by less than 4 points.
oh nooooo. Ha, helped me as I was going against SB. I was more annoyed that he seems to not care on those, thats going to bite him again at some point.
BTW- anyone think that hit on JMatt was helmet to helmet? Nothing was called, but I thought they could have called it.
I’m not even sure about the rules in all the various situations anymore. It looked like a penalty to me but who knows, I guess he was a runner at that point so you can do whatever the fuck you want?
The NFL has really started borking up the rules badly over the last 4 or 5 years.
That’s odd and confusing because they made the rule that the RB can’t lower his head last year. Helmet to helmet should be called all the time no matter the situation if the NFL is seriously(ha ha) worried about concussions. I would say they are seriously worried about their bottom line though.
Should have been spearing
Tirico was talking about “defenseless receiver” but yeah, looked like helmet-to-helmet or spearing to me. Lowered his helmet and launched into JMatt’s helmet.
there is no think, it was helmet to helmet. I don’t know the rules, whether it’s too hard to judge b/c guys are moving, but it was definitely a helmet to helmet hit.
they were both low but that defender knew he was already low. I dont know, those are tough when the offensive guy is down when it happens as opposed to both of them standing or at least mostly upright when it happens. Think thats why you wont often see flags in those situations.
So a few positives to think about:
Fletcher Cox was beasting last night, got 1 sack, should have had another plus FF if not for a silly penalty. Was disruptive in the run game too.
Bennie Logan showed up a few times in the run too, made a few plays.
Kiko is clearly a bigtime ILB who can help our pass D a lot when he’s patrolling the middle there.
Darren Sproles still looks like he has plenty of juice in the tank, no worries there.
Bradford looked pretty accurate most of the game, seemed to make pretty good decisions for the most part.
Jordan Mathews, drop aside, was getting some work done and I think will easily eclipse 1000 yards for us this year.
Walter Thurmonds tackling and run support might be suspect but he showed he knows how to cover and read the quarterback, so that’s good.
If Malcom Jenkins applies superglue to his gloves before every snap he might end up with 18 interceptions this year.
Lost in that abysmal first half was Kiko doing his Odell Beckham Jr. impression. That was a special play.
Yeah, really saved us too, game would have been really out of hand if they were up 27-3 at the half.
right, which actually is even worse considering the D play. They get turnovers which helps them, like last season but where is the consistency we thought would improve with the roster. Oh right, Billy Davis is still employed.
yeah I’m a lot less angry about this loss than I thought I would be. The first half was extremely frustrating,Run game wasn’t going anywhere, Julio going Julio, and Bradford was looking rusty…the encouraging things that I saw were that the D gave up a lot between the 20’s but tightened up in the Redzone, Jenkins had a surefire INT that was dropped, and Sam would get more comfortable as the game progressed.
I remember thinking…”Ok this is the same way it started last year, they’ll make adjustments and right the ship in the 2nd half”. and that’s pretty much what happened. Still concerned about the lack of Pass rush, lack of holes in the run game, and the Corners, I expected Julio to get his ..I mean he made Patrick freakin Peterson look like the 2nd coming of Izell “toast” Jenkins. So I didn’t expect Maxwell to fare too well against him, still need to see a better performance going forward.
Need to clean things up and play consistent football for 4 quarters
“4. Cowboys (1-0; No. 6): They’re winning games the way they used to lose them, which lays the foundation for long-lost glory.” wish they were saying that about us today
after we beat them will we 12 and them 11?
Is there a santa claus?
is that air your’re breathing?
no it’s oxygen.
Yeesh, that’s some D level analysis, there. The way the ‘Boys won that game is how they used to go 8-8, winning games early in the season and getting flushed late. If they plan on Romo throwing that much per game all season, I’m not worried about the Cowboys — at all. They won last year because the run game was near unstoppable, which meant it was pick your poison time, and limiting the opportunities for Tony to make game killing mistakes. Now, if this trend holds, it’s back to tee off on Tony and his duck tape spinal cord time.
I was at the game and Bradford looked awful. There were receivers with single coverage down the field that an NFL QB is suppose to make. Bradford checked-down on probably 90% of his passes. And the o-line was putrid but the falls on chip for cutting his 2 best guards and then believe he can get back-ups to play at an elite level. And that’s why we didn’t run the ball effectively. GM Chip’s moves look pretty so far, I just hope the team looks better going forward.
yeah did it look like he should have gone downfield more often, chip said lack of protection didn’t open up downfield game. i think sammy b likes those intermediate passes, agree deep ball would have opened things up.
There was pressure but you still have to get the ball down the field. I didn’t think Atlanta was that good we just looked ill-prepared in all phases of the game.
ya out coached for sure, esp in 1st half. I do worry Sammy is what he was on the Rams, seeing some of that isnt exactly encouraging. I need to see him win on a last drive to buy in. Enough of the nerves already, better not see tentative shaky first halves anymore either.
hasn’t played in 2 years, no run game to carry him
ya ya, I know, and coming off 2 bad injuries so can be expected hence my not wanting to see it in first halves anymore. Then I will consider it an overall lack of handling pressure. Theres something to be said for that, been watching this game long enough to see QBs that get flustered
Interesting to get that perspective because it’s hard to see from the TV feed whether people are coming open deep or not.
Will be curious to see what Tommy thinks about that.
He had two good drives where we scored TDs in the 3rd and 4th, but he was still dinking and dunking down the field not really putting pressure on the secondary deep. I’m not asking for 10 plays down the field but at least several plays to keep the defense honest.
Todd was one of the two best guards?
Compared to who played last night? Yes
I haven’t seen the all-22 yet, so I don’t know what was going on downfield, but if we look at his play in the 2nd half once he settled down. He had 4 drives, one that covered 135 yards with all the penalties and he scored 3 TDs and had the team in position for the go ahead FG on the fourth, when the drive stalled only after we took the ball out of his hands. Even if he had opportunities down field that he forwent for the sure 10 yard pass, how can you call that awful. Regardless of where he threw or what he did or how he did it, he effectively drove the team up and down the field with ease for TDs. If he plays like he did in the second half the rest of the year, checks down all day long and methodically drives us to TDs bf we score 54 points a game, I won’t be complaining that he doesn’t throw enough bombs.
We’ll see. Bradford may have looked impressive from the TV feed but not from my perspective. Hopefully, the whole team will look better against dallas
That’s not how it works, Jernst. If you can’t hit on longer routes, they close down your short ones and then you’re done. Sanchez, part II.
they are going to do that to Peyton this year. I know Ravens were tough first matchup but some of his throws were awful. I havent seen that before from him, I def think this is his last year. Some basic outs would land 5 ft in front of the wr. I can expect a bit off target at times but it was strange. Maybe its those numb fingertips
feel bad for people that picked D. Thomas in first round. He’s going to have to earn his moeny this year.
I’m not suggesting that we aim to throw the ball no more than 10 yards through the air on any given play. I know that you need to stretch the field vertically too. My response is more to the original poster who said Bradford looked awful. Regardless of what ‘might’ happen if Bradford decides to dink and dunk all year, that’s not at all what actually happened last night. They never shut down our short passing game and it was working to perfection, looked downright unstoppable at times. So why again did he “look awful”? If it’s there take it. If they move up to stop that, then yes, by all means, hit them deep and make them pay. But, if they concede 10 yard throws all over the field and you can drive down the field without resistance for 3 consecutive TDs, and you do just that with a very high degree of efficiency, why again is that “awful”?
I hear you, but we will have to keep an eye on his gun-shy tendencies. He was sub-par, I think, in the first half. I think Nick keeps us closer in the 1st half and we pull this one out.
Bradford has always been a gunshy QB when it comes to deeper throws. And he’s one of those QBs that don’t do lofted, timed, deep rainbows accurately.
I don’t ever pretend to be a talent evaluator, but whenever I hear people suggest that Foles is, in any way, better than Bradford, I’m shocked. It’s clear to me that Bradford is the superior talent in every way. Obviously you feel otherwise but, in my opinion, the levels of their respective talents are not even close.
#Armtalent, #RookieOftheYear, #FirstOverallPick, #EyeTestmean nothing to me. Is he an effective QB? The numbers clearly show that Bradford has not been. Foles has had stretches of all-world effectiveness, SB looked great this preseason and the 2nd half of this game. SB has a chance to turn his career around and become what some people have already gifted him. The history of the NFL is littered with players described as talented who never did anything. Talent is as talent does.
andrew gardner +2.1 based on pass pro.
Allen Barbre -3.9
Nelson Agholor -2.7
Jason Kelce -2.5
Sam Bradford -1.4
pft grades
Bradford threw 31 completions on 41 attempts for 288 yards, one interception, and a 84.2 passer rating when not pressured. When he was pressured, he threw just five completions on 11 attempts for 48 yards, one touchdown, one interception, and a 50.6 passer rating. It was clear there were timing issues with Bradford and his pass catchers are times. Bradford also never really attempted many deep passes, which has always been an issue with him.
Byron Maxwell -3.7
Kiko Alonso -3.6
Connor Barwin -2.5
DeMeco Ryans -2.0
Cedric Thornton -1.1
On the 11 times he was targeted, Maxwell allowed 10 receptions for a whopping 179 yards and one touchdown. To his credit, he did have one pass defensed. For the most part, however, he was toast. Not a good sign considering how much money the Eagles spent on him to be a solution in their secondary.
Alonso graded out really poorly as a run defender. He missed one tackle.
Barwin missed a tackle in run defense and failed to generate pressure. In 31 pass rush snaps, Barwin didn’t record a single sack, hit, or hurry on the quarterback.
knew Max struggle but good lord.
Yeah, and it wasn’t just Julio, Roddy got wide open on him a couple times too. Just a really rough night for him.
wtf is this shit?
PFF is stupid
I’m going to put numbers on my hot takes and then declare them authoritative.
-0.6 for explaining your process
-.0157896 for explaining yours.
It’s turtles all the way down, man.
Let me guess- Brandon Graham got a +45.0.
JP looked old. Maxwell is a crook. I’m done.
Billy D is the crook, been stealing money for years now. I cant expect a corner to follow a wr across the field and make a play on the ball. No pressure on Ryan at times, had all day back there to wait for guys to cross. Not enough press at los or theyd let em run past. Im not as worried about Max as most are.
Guard play was not good. Early indications that Barbre was hesitant in his blocking.
http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2015/09/changing-of-the-guard.html
I remember Barbre completely ignored the guy running right past him on one play, prety clearly unsure of his assignment.
That was weird because that’s a very vanilla common look.
Barbre’s assignment is to use his left hand to get a shot on the 3 tech, keeping him from slanting hard inside and then work up to the backer. It’s as easy an assignment as you can get.
My guess is the fact that the falcons are playing double 3 techs, fucked up the communication somewhere in the process.
Yeah it looked odd because you could tell from his body language he was really unsure what to do. Should be pretty easy to clean up, at least he wasn’t just getting trucked back into the QB or something.
I wonder if they start looking at Tobin in LG spot and having Barbre being the swing backup tackle. Maybe one game is too soon for all that. But it is an option.
Hmm, never thought about that. If he’s playing like this when we get to the bye, then yeah I can see him getting benched.
might be too late at week 8
4 game leash?
i’d say, otherwise the season is out of hand
First, I hope this is a mute point and Barbre play is just fine. But if not and he continues to struggle, I hope they don’t wait until the bye(week 8). They would be giving Barbre the Bradley Fletcher treatment. I don’t know how long or short of leash it should be to fairly evaluate his play.
What does this tell you about football. The Eagles are -5 against the Cowboys. The sucky, terrible 0-1 Eagles against the 1-0 division champ Dallas Cowboys and the Eagles are favored by 5. You get 3 just for being the home team. People will be betting heavy on the Cowboys(I hope) Eagles win this game, pretty confident about that.
Wow. I was wondering what the opening line would be. That’s also because Dez is hurt, so it’ll be interesting to see the movement on the line as the week goes on.
Bet it will move more towards Eagles -3 or -2.5… Just a feeling.
I hope the betting goes Cowboys, it always works out for the other team when that happens. Like last night, people went Eagles’ heavy
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that would be more towards the Cowboys
Which is what Vegas wants.
Yep, the strong second half, the home team gets 3 points so Dallas would only be favored by one at home then? I”m happy about this. Atlanta was getting 2 and a half in a supposed blowout Eagles win.
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the second half we looked decent.
im just not that worried right now.
parkey connects we win.
Sam threw strikes, the screen game was good.
you can’t get down on Maxwell, who covers Julio?
0-1 sucks. but its a 16 game season.
its not gauranteeed the parkey hits that Eagles win.
Falcons would not have run three run plays if Parkey made that kick. I guarantee you that.
Then Maxwell would have just gotten lit up again.
I agree, their field goal kicker can stick em from far out.
the truth is a slow first half killed us.
but I saw enough to not be worried… yet
The Falcons were the #25 if the ESPN Fantasy Football live draft results and they made the Eagles look pathetic. How can you not be worried?
because fantasy is lame
Bang, there it is!
i wouldn’t say lame……
It doesn’t tell the story is basically what he’s saying.
If Matthews doesn’t drop that ball they take it down, run the clock and Parkey gets a another shot. That doesn’t guarantee anything and ifs are ifs, they don’t mean shit. Oh well.
(almost) Halfway to a sonnet! Kudos, botto!
The right call was throwing on 3rd and 4 instead of running an inside zone behind our worst run blocker with both A and B gaps covered with big bodies. Bradford was nearly unstoppable at that point with the short passes. Give him two chances to pick up the first through the air and we score with no time on the clock. If Parkey makes that kick, Atlanta gets the ball back with 2:30 on the clock and needs to only get to our 35 yard line to basically assure themselves a winning FG.
5 x plays last night.
More receivers have had 140 yards vs. Eagles in 33 games under Bill Davis [8] than in 10 years under Jim Johnson [6].
In fairness people throw the ball alot more now than they did during Johnson tenure.
And it’s 34 games (saints). So one out of four games a receiver goes off against you. I can live with that.
BC1968er,
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Avery Greene,
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Pittsburgh is favored by 6 and a half against San Fran. Pats giving Buffalo one point. KC giving Denver 3. Some interesting lines.
SF looked terrible last night
Didn’t see it, was too busy crying. Scores can be deceiving.
you mean Vikes?
both teams really, it was an ugly game.
okay I didnt watch much, but funny how the hype can be so wrong. Minny a possible playoff team, SF going to be awful. Then again, September headlines are often misleading come November.
Very misleading. The Cowboys supposedly lost their season after the Thanksgiving game last year, but guess what? Not even close. Yesterday’s game hurts like hell, but it’s hardly the end. Geez, it’s funny and yet sad I even have to point that out. Not to you, but there are people…
I’m surprisingly calm today after the loss. My feeling is the Eagles are closer to being the 2nd half team than the 1st half team. The 2nd half Eagles should crush the Cowboys and begin the winning streak.
glad we didn’t blow out falcons, hype train would have left the station.
Westbrook said just that on post game. Sometimes a team that listens to the hype, believes the hype, forgets that the games aren’t handed to them on a platter. Not word for word but along those lines.
This happens every year to some team during some game. I hope this was the one and only wake-up call this Eagles team will need.
I just said this in response to Eliot Shorr Parks’s article about not panicking. This year’s week one is a flip of last year. The Eagles won last year but you saw issues that stuck with them all year. Although the Eagles lost this year, I think you see the template for the better success they will have this year.
I agree. yes
not so sure on D
I agree, the defense was offensive.
Okay, Tommy, so, I think EaglesFANqq has pretty much worn out his welcome here.
and you know he wont be trolling after victories
This mean CK has to go 18-0 for the rest of the season, to give us all a break.
Gotta be banned, without a doubt. Not here to give any thoughtful insight, fake Eagles fan. Obsessed with Eagles’ fans, jealous that we root for a team that hasn’t won a Super Bowl because we’re not bandwagon scum suckers.
Seriously, enough is enough. Please do something Tommy.
I see at least a 5 game winning streak coming up. Hope it doesn’t make anyone upset or jealous 🙂
Better be careful, http://i.imgur.com/O3DHIA5.gif is in the air!
THE BAN HAMMER!
https://i.imgur.com/6bZMF.png
Terrelle Pryor worked out for the Patriots, PFT has confirmed, but no signing of the former quarterback trying to transition to wide receiver is imminent.
still super-duper pissed…. literally the 3rd quarter and Kiko’s Pick were the only good points….. other than that I might go track down Billy Davis sneak onto his computer and trade away Julio Jones on his fantasy team. F******CCCCKKKK.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/0c/0cffce2068c5597f1566ac2174ddb419d7565f3c3a13cb08a49df2feffa50b59.jpg
Right on my man!
just like yo mama.
Some poor dumb eagle fan got a big Eagles 2015 SB champs tattooed on his neck smh
I know this ish hasn’t even stopped itching yet and we’re 0-1! Luckily 5’s are easily doctored into 6’s
Or 8s.
hey
or 8’s?
LOL – great minds think alike!
Yeah, but…http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201446/rs_403x537-140506123835-tat6.jpg
Chip says we lost 60 yards on offensive penalties plus it negated 97 yards worth of gained offense, and dumb penalty negated our sack fumble. Won’t beat many teams shooting ourselves in the foot like that.
Fortunately we should be able to clear it up
http://www.nflpenalties.com/index.php?view=total&year=2015
Not quite that level of detail (yards negated would be a great add) but still helpful.
I think there were three holding penalties on the td drive that started at Eagles 5. That makes it a 125 yard drive. I wonder if there’s some stat for longest drive?
there were actually 4. It was a 135 yard drive.
Is there a quick and easy way to see how Kelly’s offense fairs against NFL as a whole on a drive by drive basis & to see if they perform better at certain time periods or it is just largely random.
Scoring by quarter is kind of a crappy proxy and you need to strip out all of the special teams/defense scores.
One of the problems with hot takes is that they’re only one letter off from “hot cakes”, and that makes me hungry.
mmmm cake
You guys are losers! Ha! You think the Eagles will ever win anything, you are PATHETIC!
Sigh.
Whoever’s replying to that f-tard stop it right now.
Trump thinks a special someone is going overboard with the use of losers
I would ask what this means, but Joe said not to reply to your posts.
Berks County is a shithole
Nah, it just smells that way to keep the outsiders away.
I live in Pottstown, we just use the nuclear radiation.
I can’t believe a coach came out and defended his team by blaming the refs.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/markmoorehead/QQ_zps4aef574e.jpg
hey yo f*ckhead go home the internets don’t like your kind…. “Eli Manning Level Retarded. “
Remember that one Eagles fan said the over/under on number of bradford starts was 19.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/411/964/9b5.jpg
“We waited 9 months for that?”
Hey, that’s what my parents said.
Hi-O!
That’s what I told my high school GF…
Thankfully the only NFCE team with a wins advantage over us is the one we can knock back down next week. We lose to them, and we deserve it.
Things that concerned me from the game:
1) Our guard play was terrible and the fact that this wasn’t considered an obvious outcome of the positions 3 years of utter neglect is disappointing. Games are won and lost in the trenches. Kelly would have been much better investing more than the grand total of $1million that he did into our two starters flanking Kelce. And, if these guys don’t turn it around this year, he should be blamed for his complete lack of attention on a rather important part of the teams success.
2) On a night when we couldn’t generate any pass rush at all with our front four and Matt Ryan had time to check his e-mail before making a decision on which of our CBs he wanted to pick on, Vinny Curry saw only 21 snaps (27%). By comparison, Taylor Hart saw 19 snaps (25%). Vinny is a true playmaker as a pass rusher and absolutely needs to see more snaps when we’re desperate to generate a pass rush. I thought the move to OLB would be a way to get Vinny on the field more, not less.
3) 3) EJ Biggers was on the field for 1 play while Eric Rowe saw zero snaps (rightfully so after his preseason performance). But, Chris Maragos played nearly 50% of the snaps. Was getting rid of the best NCB and replacing him with Chris Maragos really worth a 5th round pick? Having Chris Maragos play Centerfield for 50% of our defensive snaps is a recipe for disaster.
4) Get DeMeco off the field. He offers nothing at this point and pretending that he’s not a slow liability at this point in his recovery is just silly.
5) Don’t run your tiniest player into the line to get hammered by 300 pound DTs multiple times with less than a minute left in the half from our own 20 hard line. It offers no upside as you’re clearly not trying or likely to score that way, and it leads to the potential for injury to a key element of your passing attack. Don’t be to cowardly to actually try and score, but too prideful to kneel on the ball and go into half time. Either try to score, or concede the final few seconds of the half.
6) Maxwell is too slow to play man coverage and run all over the field. The technique issues with his jam can be fixed. His speed sadly can’t.
7) If you’re going to call an inside zone run on 3rd and 4 from the 30 yard line, you need to have already decided what you plan to do if the runner gets stuffed a yard short before the play is even run. Hated seeing Chip waffling on the sidelines trying to make the decision as the play clock wound down, only to choose the worst possible option, rushing the kicker out there with 15 seconds on the clock.
re: safety play & maragos
i would be much happier to see Thurmond move to the centerfield safety spot since he has proven to be a pretty good ballhawk so far this year, and let another guy be the coverage guy.
how worried are we if we lose to dallas next week?
Relax its a 5.5 eagles line, which means 14pt win coming off last nights loss
the only line that matters is the O-line
im not worried. I think we win easily. just saying if we lose where does that leave our season. we can beat the skins easy. Not so sure about the jets. there d scares the crap out of me. if we cant pass protect against the falcons awful pash rush what are we going to do against that d line. if were 1-3 after a quarter of the season i will be sick
win easily?
again?
i wasnt as confident about the atlanta game as everyone else. last years opener taught me not to take anyone lightly. just can’t see how we dont smash the cowgirls after getting punched in the mouth last night. I still think we are a far superior team to both the falcons and girls. im optimistic that we will come out with something to prove next week. this loss could be a blessing in disguise
I agree with you, I was not confident about the game either, simply because ryan and Julio, and there you have it….
but at the same time a loss can help fire a team up, and ground them a bit.
so lets hope that’s what happens.
I also think we’re a superior team but that might be because I’m an eagles fan
They gave up a 17 point halftime lead. We shot ourselves in the foot in the first half.
on to dallas
Ok, I just watched the Kiko interception on repeat for a few minutes and am now over this game. That man is going to be awesome after all the rust is knocked off (I know the rest of the game was very iffy from him) We are on to Dallas.
There are male Temple cheerleaders who are thicker than Kiko Alonso. Get the hell out of here.
Male cheerleader fan I see. #culture
He is not wrong, Kiko is incredibly small as a NFL linebacker. He is also incredibly fast and incredibly good in coverage, because that what small gets you. Not rocketscience, if a guy is 280 pounds run stuffer and covers like Kiko, he is an all pro.
Didn’t say he’s wrong. He’s wrong on plenty other levels though.
A IP blockage might not be out of the question if he keeps it up.
Really, I thought we were and passed that point about 8 hours ago.
CK on Maxwell:
“Just inconsistencies in techniques. I think Byron would be the first one to tell you that,” Kelly said. “When he was locked up in technique, he did a really good job. When he got beat, you can look at where he was from a technical standpoint … In terms of how you’re taking guys, in press man or on the line of scrimmage, are you working lateral, are you getting hands on them, are you opening up the gate (and letting them run down the field free)?”
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Chip-no-Parkey-panic-yet-Maxwell-must-tend-to-technique.html#WelYFS6SuzKj6uZq.99
Now look up their quotes on Fletcher from late last year. It’s so identical it’s almost scary. Next we’ll have Billy Davis telling us he just needs to leave Maxwell on an island all game so he can play out of his slump.
Hopefully by next offseason, when he gives his “in hindsight I should have replaced him” speech, it’ll be to his wife in his living room, because he’ll have been long since fired…
ya, Im really tired of blaming the players at this point. Ive seen a good coordinator come into a team of not the best talent and make them play way better enough times. Im not excusing the poor play but scheme can make a huge difference
Bill Davis > Juan Castillo?
see falcolns
yeah he gave up a lot, but its one of the best out there in Julio.
the fact is, we only gave up 26 points. that not great but not that bad either.
the game was winnable even with Maxwell letting Julio run free.
we still should have won it. could’ve
I’m not buying the Julio excuse for Maxwell. I see people embracing it a little too quickly, like they’re trying to convince themselves we didn’t just repeat the Nnamdi Experience™…
It might turn out Julio was the exception, but we’ll find out on Sunday if Dallas’ nobodies put up a ton of yards against him…
true, but do you really think Julio isn’t one of the best and hardest to cover?
look at that guy.. he’s gnarly
without questions he’s one of the best. But Maxwell is well paid to limit, not stop, the elite wr’s. He failed.
true dat.
a little pass rush never hurt anybody
amen.
Even if he has a good game against nobodies, he has to do that for the year.
Even if Maxwell plays great against lesser competition, we’re paying him like a top 5 CB, literally on average $$$/year, the 5th best paid CB in the league. Expecting him not to get bend over by Julio Jones is by no means ridiculous.
Fine if he is not Sherman or Revis, nobody is. Perfectly fine if Dez, OBJ, Calvin end up putting numbers on against him, they do on most corners. But Maxwell cannot allow anybody to do that to him, otherwise he’ll be gone a lot sooner that his 6 year contract.
you can’t set the market price though.
supply and demand
Especially when the Eagles were forced to sign Byron Maxwell by the league. Put us in a real mess to get an executive order like that. Would have been really nice if we could have just not signed a player at an absurd overprice. Oh wait. I still think it was a god signing, but we overpaid massively for Maxwell. We could just have not done that. We were certainly willing to not overpay for Maclin.
Seriously though, he had a bad game, and nothing can excuse that, not Julio, not an away game, nothing. Still, lets give him more than a single game before we send him packing. I do think he’ll bounce back against the cowboys. Doesnt change the fact that even against the top WR in the league, were paying Byron Maxwell to not get fucked at a Fletcher level.
would the “other guy” we could have signed at less money done better ?
not with this coord
Probably not, but the X amount of millions saved that could have been spent somewhere else might have had an effect on the game too. And its not like lets say Cary Williams, who I think was massively overrated, could have done much worse. Whats would that have been, like 5,5 million to lets say keep Mathis and Maclin, maybe even signed another OL to provide depth.
So better, no. Worse, maybe a little. cheaper, oh yeah.
gotcha.
makes sense.
but boy was corner a glaring need after last season, worth taking a shot I would say.
Oh I agree, and like I said, signing Maxwell was not only fine, but a really good move. I wasn’t thrilled with him, although he was certainly the best CB available, and like I said, that contract is super big.
But Maxwell can never allow Julio and even Roddy White to do him like that, honestly he was borderline Fletcher level. Thats not worth 10,5 mill on average with a big guarantee. Maybe next game he will dominate and when he faces Calvin he’ll play a really good game and keep Calvin as low as you can keep Calvin. Maxwell will still look back at this game and think, damn I can never allow that to happen again. If not, he’s gone when we can cut him without cap penalties, because thats not worth 10,5 mil.
if we can get some snow in for the Detroit game he might do well
I still think this was just an incredibly bad game for Max, but yeah, Calvin is Calvin. Personally im hoping he has a nagging finger injury against us, and he can’t catch the ball.
puts a lot of pressure on offense when you’re giving up 28pts a game. We were at 17 pts per game a could of years ago, much easier hurdle to get over.
Pay this man his money!
wasn’t there a penalty on that play?
Yes.
Fletcher Cox is a monster and we’re privileged to have him. As long as he stays healthy he will be a force all year long. It’s time for him to get his due as one of the top DL in the league.
one thing I liked, Sam looked like he was throwing strikes in the 2nd half.
I thought he looked good.
the screen passes were killing them, sproles is the man.
Dallas is DEAD
LOL – they are ranked Top 5 in a bunch of national polls after Week 1.
they must be awesome
I seem to have accepted the fact that the Eagles will get burnt, for almost career type games, by the Fitzgeralds, Bryants and Jones of the NFL. I know Davis and Chip wont double team with safety help, as if the Eagles are being punished by the league the past three years, not allowing the Eagles to do more than play man against a big receiver. So I go into these games thinking the offense and run defense will have to overcome the inevitable huge game by a big receiver.
Then read how Calvin Johnson explains why he was barely targeted in his last game:
“Johnson finished the game with just two catches for 39 yards. Throughout the game, Johnson as double-covered with safety help over the top, according toKyle Meinke of MLive.com.
“When the quarterback sees that,” Johnson said, per MLive.com, “I’m not in the read process really.”
If the Eagles played Detroit next week, i have no doubt Johnson would have 150+ yards and Chip and Davis would afterwards talk about how Maxwell’s technique has to get better.
Definitely Jones was getting a lot of free releases. Lots of off coverage and 1on1. I swear to god it better stop or Billy has to go or Chip needs to step in if it’s not his call which I’m sure it’s not. Davis can’t keep doing this.
Poor technique
preach, not sure I can stomach a whole season with that guy running things. Its one game and Im at seething level. Not sure they can win a playoff game with that guy in charge unless they score in bunches.
oh, so there is a way to stop these receivers?
I had a feeling
pass rush
If they are going to move Maxwell around, maybe they should do what New England did in a bunch of games last year and put their best corner (Maxwell) on the opponent’s second best receiver and then double the opponent’s best receiver with Carroll and a safety.
yes please
Nice Idea, totally forgot Belichick did that, never seemed relevant because we haven’t had a #1 CB in a while. I also thought when one team put their stud large WR in the slot, having Barwin line up in press for a Jam and passing him off to a CB after proper disruption was a creative and effective plan last season.
Max got beat by roddy a fair amount too. He’s slow and needs help over top, just like everyone else. Maxwell isn’t a shut down guy.
I agree Maxwell isn’t a shut down corner and you can’t expect him to totally shut down even the second wide receiver, but I’d rather have him in man coverage without help on Roddy White than on Julio Jones. He’ll give up some but will stop plenty as well.
I know I’m just stating the obvious, but watching Darren Sproles do his thing is an absolute PRIVILEGE. I don’t know how much long he can be the elusive, matchup nightmare that he still is, but I will certainly enjoy every damned minute of it.
he’s awesome.
more sproles
You can’t fix run formation through the constant short passes. You really had to *make them back UPPPP* You do that by stretching side to side with QB rushes. Or you do that with +25 yard bombs down the sideline.
They were moving the ball fine in the 2nd half without the deep bomb.
The issue though, is that you’re really just covering up the fact that you can’t rush. Rushing for short yardage>>passing. Less things that can go wrong, easier on your offense to execute, etc. Passing all the time means that your risk-reward ratio is skewed onto the side of risk, if the defense is making their tackles. Passing like that is not optimum without getting consistently great YAC. That would work to spread out defense as well, but we were off-and-on about getting it. I think a big reason why we were off-an-on, was that we got too predictable and Atl defense knew deep in the heart that they had to clean up. No split second killer indecisions. Which could have happened if there was a more balanced playcalling that allows for deception.
True, but you have to take what’s there. They need to fix the issues with the Guards, then they should do better in the run game. I don’t get mad at the short yardage passing game. It’s very effective with a running game. Once the running game gets together, they will take shots down the field. Doing that when the OL is having issues is a recipe for the QB getting hit and sacked.
There was several times in high leverage situations that a true RO QB keeper could safely have been done, and would also demonstrate a willingness to risk QB such that interior line has more leverage when it’s a straight run play.
yes but it’s not going to happen. we don’t have that kind of QB, maybe later in the year.
I kept waiting for the running game to get together last year, too.
Can’t disagree, sadly the pass pro was just as bad as the run blocking. That’s probably why it’s so important to invest in that O-line, and why it might have been worth it to keep the talent you don’t have a replacement for yet.
they did a lot of horizontal passing to RBs to try to stretch, RBs had 114yds on 14 passes.
Kelly: The Falcons scheme forced the Eagles to throw underneath throughout the game. Just look at Tom Brady in SB vs. Seahawks
and PM the year before, completed a ton of short passes.
I was pissed last night, but we were just sloppy in the first half, looked great in the second I’m still worried about the guards, Byron and Parkey but I believe in us lets whoop Dallas
Starting to get really,excited about a lot of what we saw last night, and there are a few concerns that we will have to get straightened out…
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For starters, It took Bradford only a half of football to shake two years of rust off and look surgical,in the second half. In the heat of the loss, I don’t think we appreciated the The heart and Moxy Bradfird and the offense showed in the second half, not just by coming back from a 17pt deficit, but Bradford and tbis offense had to overcome an absurd amount of penalties in order to grind away those big scoring drives.. It’s not every day that a QB can overcome so many penalties on one drive and perserve thru it, and it’s exciting to see our QBA fight thru so much adversity, keep this offense grinding to give us a chance to win last night.. You can tell, even thru the mistakes that guys never waivered in their confidence from Bradford….we got to see SAM take some monster hits, face all types of adversity to fight our way back in the game for a 21-25 second half that was pretty damn I pressive.
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We didn’t run the ball much last night, but that will come.. However it was exciting to see how well all 3 RBs catch the ball, Sproles is NOT the only pass catching weapon in our backfield, Mathews, Murray, Sproles all came up with some big plays When we got rolling in the 2nd half.
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for a team that was passing from behind, abandoning the run, the falcons D was able To pin their ears back and let their pass,rush loose and Our OL settled down and gave Bradford time to pick that defense apart, but just as Imporant, Bradford knew exactly where the openings in the Defense would be and got that ball out quick really helping our OL settle down..
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That Sweep play we went to in the second half was really nice. KELCE clean up a few blocks and we get some big plays out of that..
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The One concern of mine is the Outside,WRs… But not so much a lack of Talemt issue, more of a waiting on youth to grow up issue.. Agholar is a smart, talented, Hard working rookies. I wouldn’t put any stock in what we saw last night when it comes to him because we should see both Agholar and Hopefully also Huff grow significantly as this season plays out.. I would prefer to see Huff show growth early this season. I dont think he deserves as much patiemce as our first round rookie does.. huff gotta get it together and start to add value to this passing attack…. 1’Thing you can’t help to think of is how much Nastier this offense would be with Maclin on the outside, but I understand why they didn’t beat KCs offer…
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This is a team with so many new faces that no matter how great or horrible last night was, it was only a starting poïnt for this yeàr. So many changes that this group is going to have to grow and gel over the course of this season, and all the tryiing camp and pore season games is no substitute for guys being on that battle field together, facing adversity, having to make adjustments together.. Game time is the ONLYI way to grow…. I take solace in the fact that so much roster turnover, so many young players we are in the process of growing, that as each game unfolds and the season goes by we should grow much more then a Veteran team would that is returning the same team as the year before… I saw a lot of Quality in the second half in the middle of a bunch of penalties of course. We are capable of being a dangerous team RIGHT NOW, it should be scary to see how good Of a team we can grow into by November/Defember….. no matter how great or bad you think guys like Gardner, Huff, Agholar are today, the should be much better players in November then they are at the beginning of september. Even a guy like Ertz, rushed back from surgery, he is going to catch his stride after another game or two.. heck even Kiko we aren’t seeing anything yet. He was eased back into the game yesterday after missing so much of the preseason. As Impressive as he was, we haven’t seen anything yet when it comes to that monster.. When we catch our stride, I expect him to be on the field the majority of the game.
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need to see the Front 7 do a better job at generating pressure when teams like Atlanta keep in so many guys to block. Front 7 DIDNT generate enough first half pressure…
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Man the opening series with Murray get shut down in the back think i mention last year thats what Shady was good at was making those negative plays into positives. OL was concerning in the run game. Thought Undin would have taking these DBs to the next level but yesterday just looked like Fletcher n Williams all over again. Looking more n more DC Bill Davis fault. From preseason to the regular season where is the pass rush n Parkey continues to struggle. What was up with all the holding calls against Eagles?? There were a few for Falcons not called.
They did have 6 in to protect the QB while we were rushing 4 for most of the 1st half. He’s got to make adjustments faster.
Yeah, they were in max protection all first half, but that was expected. It was no secret they didn’t have the confidence to block us with only 5 guys, which is why we knew this week Wasnt going to be a major test for our nickel and dime packages.. We should see teams with OL like the cowboys, be more daring to go with 3 or 4 Wrs against us,
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The Front 7 really left Maxwell out to dry in the first half.. I don’t care who the corner is or how much he makes, unless he is Revis, he will get torched if the pass rush ismt adequate… I mean, a lot of those big plays were slowly developing Play action passes where Maxwell was asked to cover way too long to reasonable expect him to succeed.. Obviously he can do better at Jamming the WR at the Line, but our pass rush can’t hang him out to dry like that, but I’m not worried. I trust our front 7…
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Really excited about our safeties. jenkins was really good. And thurmond is very impressive for someone who has been playing safety for a few months.. Give him 6 games to really get comfortable at safety, I believe our LONG Safety Troubles are OFFICIALLY OVER!!! Of course we need thurmond to stay healthy, but I’m really feeling our Safey Tandem..
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People think that was a reLly bad throw by Matt Ryan, but Thrmond was double teaming on Julio running a post, saw what was happening,
Egt the double team and jumped the dig route… BIGTIME safety olay for someone so inexperienced at the position.. Dudes a legit Ballhawk..,. Funny, the way he has played, kind of reminds me of Jarius BYRD,,.
Brian.Dawkins who has been fairly critical of the Eagles whenever it’s waranted since we cut him and he joined the media said that after last night, his concern for this team on a scale of 1 to 10 is a one, as in not worried at all…. He took a lot of positive from the game and agrees that you can’t grow into the team we need to be without facing any adversity.. Last night should expedite growth. You are far more critical of yourselves after a loss….
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I just feel bad for Bradford, that he wasn’t able to really show what he could do in crunch time on that last two minute drive. The Jordan INT robbed us of a chance to see what SAM could do with the game on the line… but does anyone really doubt that Pope Jordan won’t grow from last nights key drop? Doubt that kid ever lets his teammates down like that again..
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After last night, im probably even more excited about this offense then I was going into the season, because I really didn’t know Ryan Mathews and Demarco were such dangerous pass catching weapons, and Bradfords Precision is going to really help Sproles show what a bigtime stud he is. Shame he lost his footing and stepped out of bounds
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We haven’t seen anything yet when it comes to the greatness of Kiko
Time to let Mufasa stay on bench n only play rotation?
Unless it’s a run heavy team, or maybe even a run down, yes.
I love that Man, so I don’t say it lightly, but Yes, we are going to start seeing him play less and less then we saw last night… Chup said he is still easing KIKO in, so he kept Kendricks in the game and rotated Meco and Kiko last night…But even if Demeco still is able to produced or us, it’s going to be harder and harder to justify not having Kiko and Mychal on the field.. But, if this offense tempo keeps our defense playing more snaps then anyone, there will be a place for bringing in a fresh #3 ILB on first and second down, just when The offensive 3 and outs come and Kiko or Mychal need an early down breather… I still think there is absolutely a place on this team for Mufasa, but his snaps counts are going to nose dive because of the greatness of our young ILb tandem
Maybe my eyes deceived me but I could have sworn we had a 3-3-5 nickel package last night with 3 DL and 3 ILB
It wouldn’t have been the first time we used it, so you Prob right… But I DOUBT that if It was used as a Nickel package, Meco would have been on the field… I would assume the 3 LBs in a 3-3-5 nickel wpuld be Kiko, Mychal and Barwin(pass rush and coverage threat).
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I assume it will be a rare occurence going forward when we see Meco on the field on 3rd down,,,
I think he’s not completely back, and that is not an attempt to make an excuse. He IS old for his position, but his play, I think get get better over the first half of the season. Unfortunately, he’s nearing his NFL retirement, and the field of play will not accommodate another below par performance. Light rotational duty is the doctor’s orders.
I think he’ll be “fine” by mid late season time. He’s back super early. He’ll be good against the run i hope, but also be good field general. he wasn’t great in space before the injury.
Matthews dropped a pass thru his hands that would have been a big gain.
Cut him
I didn’t say to cut him, I’m just offering a counter to your point that Ryan Matthews is such a dangerous weapon catching passes. It was a bad drop right in his hands no one near him.
One drop doesn’t change the fact that he is a nice pass catching weapon, much better then I thought for a 230lb RB… Bailed us out single handedly on that 3rd and 15, “sticking his foot in the
Dirt and knifing up field getting us that 3rd down”,,
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A single drop is pretty silly to point out… I never said he was perfect, just that he was a more impressive pass catching RB then I thought we were getting, your drop does nothing to change that. I’m pretty sure everyone was aware of that drop, but thanks
Fair point.
Mathews*
if Dawkins isn’t worried none of us should be.
Yes sir..
Only because he has been a very fair critic of the Eagles since joining the media.. Dawk is actually very encouraged from last night and he is right.. A lot of good to take away from last night… Forget The loss, this QB and the Offense showed heart, toughness and Moxy in the second half not just having to come back from down 17, but more impressive was how Bradford and the offense overcame so many penalties and put together 17 play drives.., not many offenses could commit the multiple costly penalties in a drive
And be able to overcome them all and still complete scoring drives.,. That we a very good sign of the charechter of this team. No one ever quit on Bradford, and it’s a damn shame Jordan gave up that INT and robbed Bradford and the offense a chance to put a monster exclamation point on the impressive comeback finishing that game winning drive. Win or lose, I would have liked to see how Sam performed on that game winning drive. Shame it was cut so short thru no fault of Bradford
I was wondering where that unfounded optimism was! I had to do a lot of scrolling down to find it. “I’m even more excited about this offense,” lol.
JMatt didn’t make that catch because he was concussed. Or as they used to say, “he had his bell rung.”
Reports are saying that besides the index Finger, JPPS also blew part of his Thumb off…. Not sure how he will ever overcome missing part of your thumb and your index finger and still be able to battle against Offensive tackles… Forget that he is a Giant, no man should be maimed to where he can’t do his job any more. He is our Rival but he isn’t some scumbag like Suggs..
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I can see it now, Giants have no choice but to eventually Cut JPP.. No team will be able to do anything with him, and then Chip will swoop in, get him Cheap and have Hulls and our sports science lab will build him a bionic hand and he will come back and dominate as an Eagle…
It’s actually a legitimate question: are prosthetics allowed?
Uhhhhhh good question. Not sure there has been precedent for it in the NFL. I can’t think of anyone…. But their is a caged fighter who is pretty tough and wins a lot of fights on the lower pro circuit and he is allowed to fight with no legs… If someone is able to win MMA fights with no legs, then who am I to say JPP can’t overcome a couple fingers…
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They let guys his position play with a cast on their hand that doesn’t allow them to grip anything, but can be used as a club, so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be ALLOWED a to use one… I just don’t know if anyone will think he is good enogh to perform at the NFL level with a prostetic… But good question, I have no idea… I didn’t even know about the mercy rule that you could shorten quaryers to 10 min with both coaches consent
NFL Rule 5, Section 4 most likely applies.
It reads in relevant part:
OTHER PROHIBITED EQUIPMENT, APPAREL
Article 4
In addition to the several prohibited items of equipment and apparel specified in Article 3 above, the
following are also prohibited:
Projecting Objects
(a) Metal or other hard objects that project from a player’s person or uniform, including from his shoes.
Uncovered Hard Objects, Substances
(b) Hard objects and substances, including but not limited to casts, guards or braces for hand, wrist,
forearm, elbow, hip, thigh, knee, and shin, unless such items are appropriately covered on all edges
and surfaces by a minimum of 3/8-inch foam rubber or similar soft material. Any such item worn to
protect an injury must be reported by the applicable coaching staff to the Umpire in advance of the
game, and a description of the injury must be provided. If the Umpire determines that an item in
question, including tape or bandages on hands or forearms, may present undue risk to other players,
he may prevent its use at a time before or during a game until the item is removed or appropriately
corrected.
Detachable Toe
(c) Detachable kicking toe.
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nah if it were barkley would have gotten a new arm years ago
oohhhhh
It looks as if a few of our cheerleaders have been augmented with some sort of prosthesis…
Molk on IR
ya, torn bicep
maybe we can swoop in and get jake long, wonder if he can play guard.
Falcons already got him.
MOLK isn’t here to play Guard. He is barely strong enough to play Center, God forbid we ever need to play him at Guard again… His replacement will need to be able to play Center, strictly Guard play isn’t enough to replace Molk, becaus Molk is really here to predominently play center, not Guard
Wait, when? Was he on the field?
Special Teams
How? jerking off because he is so happy just to be an NFL player? Did he even play last night? I don’t wish injury to any Eagle, but if the football gods demand an injury sacrafice, im sure everyone knows I won’t be losing any sleep over Molk… Just an excuse to expedite Josh Andrews development, at least he has the size and strength to play in the NFL.. I would worry much less about our center getting pushed into bradfords lap with Josh Amdrews instead of Molk
Except, if Molk was the best backup option, now what?
very thin at OL, slot corner, safety, but you can’t be stacked at every position.
If he is a better backüp option TODAY, I have faith Josh Andrews can grow into a better NFL player, because at least he has NFLA size and strength that Molk Lacks… Somehow I doubt it will be to hard to grow a young player into at least a Molk caliber player..
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Hopefully KELCE stays healthy all year, in which case losing Molk is irrelevant, because Id go with DENNIS and Tobin at Guard before I called on Molk anyway. God forbid KELCE has to miss time, hopefully it won’t happen for another 3-4 weeks. So we have some time to expedite Josh Andrews Growth…
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Andrews may never be athletic enough to run block in this offense like Molk (although I don’t know that for a fact), but I like Andrews chances at protecting SAM Better then Molk, because I think we are giving up too much strength in order to have Molk’s athletocism,. And I would rather struggle to run the ball, then struggle to protect SAM…
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IMO at some point in the future Ilked Andrews chances to overthrow Molk on the depth chart, of course a lot of that comes down to what you think of Molk, and personally I just don’t see it when it comes to him
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Is Vandervelde on a roster!?
Vandervelde is still available
If that’s true, I assume he will be signed Immediately
Is Bunche available?
He is on our practice squad isn’t he?
I thought so. Rooting for the kid. Might not be ready, and it might be andrews that gets the call.
Andrews is on the roster, so I assume he is the next man up, but someone will be have to be brought in to replace Andrews as one of the 53 players we don’t activate on game day
Moffit? Or is he donezo?
Didn’t he say he always finds a way back to Philly?
#Eagles also make 3 practice squad moves: Signed RB Kevin Monangai and DT Travis Raciti, released TE Andrew Gleichert.
From the mothership’s tweet (the big bird?)
released who? who was activated w/ molk on IR?
Refresh, I had to edit. They released the TE Gleichert.
Roster at 52 for now.
I was sad to see Mostert get claimed by the Fins yesterday.
Very sad.
I was about to reply, “Not as sad as Media Mike” and then you beat me to it.
Indeed. Although I said my peace on that already. Now I’m onto measuring cutting implements for the scalp of Billy Davis.
Boys sign Brice Butler from Oakland. Hope we hear little from him Sunday.
Thank God I am going to a Bachelor party on Thursday morning for the weekend until the Dallas game. No cell service no more hot takes just a fast forward to Dallas. Can’t take anymore screaming hot takes.
your party? where are you headed?
My brothers. In Utah on Lake Powell sun, beers, and water skiing
nice, had mine in tahoe, same vibe.
The JPP news keeps getting worse.. Now reports are that he is basically missing his entire index finger, he is missing part of his thumb, and there is also some type of damage(not clear to what extent) to his middle finger… This is terrible, feel bad for any young man to be maimed like this. People are starting to question if he will miss the entire season, I’m questioning whether he ever plays in the NFL again?
Yeah it’s pretty bad. I’m not even thinking about NFL career, he’s going to be somewhat impaired for the rest of his life with that kind of damage. Hopefully it doesn’t affect his quality of life too bad.
plus he’s lost lot of weight apparently because he cant work out
should have signed the tender. Should have stayed away from fireworks.
with his other hand
Basically I think every young player should take less so that they can get security of getting extended before they become free agents.. Think it’s really stupid and greedy to risk making it to the open market for a mega payday, and if you are going to be greedy and piss in the face of “security” you better put your ass in bubble wrap til you sign a contract…
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I think every player should do what Kendricks did, take less to not have to risk another year or two before gaining financial security signing as a free agent..
Was w/ you on the first part 100% The second part…get paid, just don’t do stupid stuff if you don’t have a guaranteed contract. No reason JPP should have been anywhere near any fireworks. Wonder what his friends will do when the $$ runs out.
That kid could have cashed a FAT check and had life long security like two years ago if he wasn’t being so Greedy.. he should have like 45mil guaranteed in his bank account already, instead of continuing to roll the dice playing without a longterm deal so he can get what, 60 in guarantees? 70?…. Even if you don’t blow your fingers off, every time you take the
Field without that long term 2nd contract you are basically gambling with your lottery ticket for a bigger lottery ticket.
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Id much rather do what Kendricks did, take the security ASAP.. And then you can be greedy and roll the dice on your 3rd contract..
wow we are 5.5 pts fav next week
That means double digit win coming off a loss… Vegas was so on point last night, suckering all the bettors into losing back everything they won on Sunday..
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That 3 point line vs the Falcons was a curse
didn’t hit the spread or the over under.
add Ronald Leary to the list of cowboys that may miss the Eagles game. He left the Giants game with a groin issue that is still bothering him.
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Jerry jones claims Dez will need at least 6 full weeks to heal, some ESPN doctor calls that very aggressive and thinks 8-12 weeks might be more like it for Dez… I’m expecting something like a Thanksgiving return unless he does something stupid and re breaks it trying to come back too soon..
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No Dez Bryant
no Greg Hardy
No Randy Gregory
No Rolondo McClain
No Orlando scandrick
Possibly NO Ronald Leary.,
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I have to say, had we blown out the Falcons yesterday, I would be very worried about a letdown against a Dallas team coming to Philly so depleted.. But now that we risk 0-2 start, I don’t care if the Cowboys line up 11 Dwarfs, we better not overlook anyone, and come out ready to dominate whoever is wearing that star on their helmet on Sunday., after losing to Atlanta, I don’t see how the can overlook such a deeply battered team…
I was one of the ones that was adamant that we would not lose to ATL. I clearly underestimated them. That being said I just can’t see us losing to Dallas. Every player on the Birds has to be fire hot with anger right now.
Yeah I don’t see Dez being back that soon from that injury. It’s just to easy to reactivate.
Think everyone thought we were going to win yesterday. That 3 point line is the only thing that have anyone reason for concern going into that game
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Vegas made a killing over Eagles nation getting so carried away going into season…
It’s just drives me crazy that there were so many opportunities to win that game. If Jenkins didn’t drop what should have been his first pick out of 2. The bullshit illegal contact call on Alonso. That 3rd and 15 draw play they converted on. Mathews with a rare pass sailing through his hands for the pick. Oh well though, it’s what makes football exciting.
I live down here in Florida so it makes it worse that I am surrounded by all non eagles fans that are having a blast throwing this in my face constantly.
I knew chip loved Agholar, but I did not think he would already be playing more then Huff and Coop in week 1… ON one hand, that says a lot about how good we think Nelson can be, but I worry about what that says about Huff… I really need Huff to get it together and make his mark as a weapon in these games, even if he only catches one deep ball per game and one 15 yards screen and run per game, that’s fine, we don’t need him to be a volume weapon, but we are going to need Huff and Nelson to catch a few bombs to back defenses off
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If teams are going to put a safety and a LB on sproles because they are so scared of his wheel route threat, it’s up to our other weapons besides Jordan and the RBs to step up and make defenses pay for the extra attention they are giving to sproles… We have to start getting production from Huff/Agholar.. If we can get one of those two to step up and make a few big plays each game, it will be huge boost to the offense
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But if we ever find ourselves in a game like last night where we aren’t even looking at our outside WRs, then take them off the
Field.. I’d rather play with 3 TEs or 2TE, 2RB and an extra Offensive lineman, then to put WR in a game like last night where they aren’t even involved in the game
Ags was apparently getting 0 separation. It’s his first game so it is what it is. There’s really too many mouths to feed, Additionally, it’s unclear whether Sammy B has chemistry w Ags or Huff. Jmatt and sanchez popped last year b/c the were on second string together in preseason.
Didn’t he have Trufant on him most of the game? Trufant is the best corner to enter the NFL since 2013… I wouldn’t expect Huff or Nelson to beat him at this point
Something I’m looking to see now that we have have big Power RBs is if Chip is ONLY going to run them out of shotgun in short yard situations, that’s fine, but I would like to see us run out of shotgun in short yardage putting 3TEs on the field, or put Celek, and an Dennis Kelly or Tobin in the game as a Jumbo TE, heck you can even go two RBs and have Ryan Mathews lead block for Murray… If we are going to continue to run out of shotgun in short yardage, at least get creative with it, take the WRs out of the game, put all our size on the field, and pound the rock out of 3TE or extra OLineman, even unbalanced lines with Lane next to JP
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Especially until our outside WRs make enough plays to command respect of the defense..
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And not for nothing, but if our oUtside WRs aren’t ready to contribute, split Sproles out wide, split Ertz out wide, and keep Jordan in the slot, while we still have pass catching ability from Murray or Mathews in the backfield
Sooooooo which CB are we taking in next years draft?
doesn’t matter which cbs we take if we aren’t get any pressre on QB
Are there any that play both ways, CB on defense and OG on offense?
It’s not that we lost the game, it’s how we lost it…
Defense: new personnel, same outcome (Julio Jones is admittedly awesome)
OLine: some new personnel, but generally not effective; long on finesse, short on power (and coming off a pretty average 2014 campaign)
Receiving core: some new personnel, continued inability to create separation against man coverage
Kicker: persistent inaccuracy
HC: questionable in-game management skills (continues from previous years)
I think we’ll be better next week, and even improve as the season goes on, but I will be looking specifically at the areas above to see if we improve, or if success in other areas masks these deficiencies.
Last night just reminded me why I got so down at the end of last season. Chip and Billy have serious limitations. Chip is a bad play caller. I actually long for the days of Andy Reid and I hated the pass wacky AR (is that a new DirecTV spot?). Chip needs to either be the head coach and cede play calling to Shurmur or call the plays but let someone else do the big picture decisions like 4th downs and challenge flags.
Billy Davis makes the same BS mistakes over and over again. He’s not a good DC. He’s never been a good DC. He’s got better talent. The D still stunk. He needs to go.
One game, one game. Let’s let this complete makeover of a team have a little longer than one game to gel.
Far too reasonable. I plan on being the negative neanderthal counterpoint to GEAGLE’s blind optimist role. I won’t go completely overboard though. For right now I’ll stop at fire Billy Davis. However, one more loss and its time to clean house.
You’re absolutely right about Chip wearing too many hats. He does everything from calling plays to being the GM, for crying out loud. This is where Lurie should have stepped in and said “Chip, no mere mortal can do all this… Are you a mortal?” I’m afraid what his answer might be.
If Chip is in charge of trees, then someone else has to be responsible for the forest.
Sports Science has made me immortal Mr. Lurie.
Bryce brown was cut by bills… I’d love to see Dallas sign him..
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Ravens brought in Babin looking for a Suggs replacement LOL Oh Karma how bad to I want to see the Ravens so desperate that they sign Babin, yes Please!!
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Well. About the running game. 5he lack of discipline in sticking to the running game hurt the team in the first half. The number of attempts was shockingly low.
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