PHI 39, NO 17

Posted: October 11th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 389 Comments »

A win. Heck, a blowout win. How good does that feel?

The Eagles piled up 519 yards and made Drew Brees look human. They sacked him 5 times, forced a couple of fumbles and picked off a pass. This was not vintage Drew Brees.

It was great to see the Eagles play better and win the game. If you play the right kind of football, the wins will come. The Eagles had been sloppy and ineffective most of the year, leading to the 1-3 record. The team wasn’t perfect today. There are plenty of things to be fixed and/or improved.

Still, I thought the team looked different. They were more aggressive. The offense looked in sync. The defense was mostly outstanding, but gave up a few big plays that need to be cleaned up.

The Eagles looked comfortable today. They weren’t playing scared. They weren’t nervous.

It also helps that the Saints looked terrible. They were much better last week in their win over Dallas. Today the Saints looked completely over-matched. Sean Payton has to regret ever hiring Rob Ryan. That worked for one season, but has been disastrous ever since.

The Eagles are now 2-3. They might be tied for the division lead in about 8 hours. I know they lose the tiebreakers, but its too early to think much about that stuff. Just enjoy the fact the team won a game, looked good, and is right back in the middle of things.

Good day.

389 Comments on “PHI 39, NO 17”

1 bdbd20 said at 4:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Great point Tommy. Enjoy the win. Forget about all the math. If the offense keeps this up, we’ll be ok.
2 The original AG said at 5:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Loved the win today. The offense sans Bradford looked good all day. Two really bad INTs by Bradford cost us 14 points. The biggest takeaway was that the OL played much better today. They looked to be on the same page. Now, time to see if they can do it against the Giants.
3 E.A.G.L.E.S said at 5:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hate to say it, but Murray is awful. He’s slow and he can’t break tackles. I hate when he’s on the field because I feel like we’re wasting downs with him. I like the one-two punch of Mathews and Sproles.
4 The original AG said at 5:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Murray broke a couple tackles today. He wasn’t great early on, but was much better in the 4th.
5 Joe Minx said at 5:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Mathews is clearly superior right now. You wonder though how much DM’s hamstring may be a factor in how he looks.
6 The original AG said at 5:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I was wondering the same thing.
7 anon said at 5:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
very indecisive — remember when he just fell down on a run in the red zone.
8 Jarock said at 5:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I was hoping that Dallas running him that insane amount of times didn’t ruin him but was concerned that it would. Hate to be right, but he looks shot right now.
9 E.A.G.L.E.S said at 5:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He looks slow and easy to tackle. Last year he ran over people, this year he runs into people and goes down too easy.
10 Jarock said at 5:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m with anon. I think it’s more indecisive than slow. Even when things are blocked fairly well, he’s not just turning upfield and hitting it. Instead he’s dancing and waiting for the huge hole. Gotta take what’s there.
11 Nelson ALGore said at 7:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Seems like he’s looking to create big plays now that he’s behind the 8 ball. He’s def pressing.
12 Jarock said at 5:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Greg Hardy is a horrible human being, but he’s a hell of a pass rusher. Terrorizing Tom Brady.
13 Joe Minx said at 5:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He should be in a jail cell.
14 Jarock said at 5:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Agreed.
15 GEAGLE said at 5:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He probably disgusts me more than any player currently Allowed to play in the NFL. Terrible human who hasn’t taken a fraction of the responsibility or shown a fraction of the remorse that Ray Rice has exhibited, yet has been able to earn 20 Mil over the course of his suspension..
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I don’t mind guys getting 2nd chances but Hardy is despicable. I really hate that he is allowed to play, his punishments didn’t Even come close to serving justice for his disgusting behavior:.. Ridiculous that Jerry jones is so worried about winning a Sb before he dies that they would make exceptions for this human trash
16 Jarock said at 5:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If I could upvote this ten times, I would.
17 anon said at 5:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
dallas will be realy good once full team is back.
18 Jarock said at 5:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It’s Dallas. They’ll melt down 🙂
I hope 😛
19 anon said at 5:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
need to win all teh games right now
20 anon said at 5:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
hardy has a sack and a ff
21 Nelson ALGore said at 7:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yes he is a talented scumbag for sure
22 Jarock said at 5:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Agreed that we need to enjoy the win, Tommy. Definitely still some things that need to be cleaned up, but easily the most complete performance of the year.
23 anon said at 5:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
dallas has 4 sacks in 1.5 quarters
24 anon said at 5:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
cj2k getting a second life
25 GEAGLE said at 5:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Like watching Dion Lewis stick it to Dallas
26 myartz04 said at 5:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Feels good to get some contributions from Huff and Marcus Smith. I’m not digging the receiver rotation though. Cooper and Austin on the field together isn’t scaring anyone.
27 The original AG said at 5:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Saw that a lot today. I want to see Huff on the field more than Austin or Cooper.
28 Jarock said at 5:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Cooper actually played ok. I’m not near as down on Austin as some here. I do think he’s an odd choice in that he’s a depth receiver who doesn’t play special teams, but he still has a little tread on the tire. Huff made one really nice play on offense but was by and large invisible other than that one play. Was assisted by the D blocking themselves too.
29 The original AG said at 6:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He had 4 catches today.
30 Nailed It! said at 6:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Plus a long kick off return.
31 Jarock said at 6:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That’s still the best thing he brings at this point. Still, he has upside which is more than we can say about Cooper or Austin.
32 anon said at 6:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
after matthews all the WRs are the same. Think huff has better RAC — he’s Mathews – like in that sense.
33 Jarock said at 7:02 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Huff and Agholor are probably the two best potential RAC guys. Agholor’s a bit more polished as a route runner and has better natural hands.
Cooper and Austin are this teams version of Jason Avant. They can still occasionally get open (Cooper’s got more left here), and they can catch, at least some of the time.
Would love to see Huff and Agholor grow into complete receivers. Not sure whether that’s going to happen this year.
34 Crus57 said at 6:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That lineup mostly scares Eagles fans
35 anon said at 5:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Ryan Mathews rushed eight times for 73 yards and a touchdown and caught 3-of-3 targets for 23 yards Week 5 against the Saints.
36 Jarock said at 5:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
For those insisting that Bradford is better than Foles:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/10/10/9489295/sam-bradford-stats-eagles-nick-foles-eagles-rams-quarterback-on-pace
Remarkable how similar those numbers are. Bradford’s done a better job of avoiding fumbles, but his YPA is almost a full yard less than Nick’s horrible start to last year.
37 anon said at 5:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:
didn’t have dropsies last year
38 Jarock said at 5:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
QB wasn’t throwing through his receivers either 🙂
39 RobNE said at 5:47 PM on October 11th, 2015:
from the headline it’s about the pace Foles was at after 4 games. He had a TON of fumbles and interceptions. Bradford until today has been lots better. It’s no small thing.
And I don’t think anyone has insisted Bradford has been better than Foles. People have suggested his upside is higher, which I agree with. Certainly though Bradford has not been playing near his optimal level.
40 Jarock said at 5:57 PM on October 11th, 2015:
The counter to that argument is 2013 Nick Foles which is better than anything Bradford has ever dreamed of producing. That would seem to indicate that Ceiling Foles is higher than anything we can ever expect from Bradford.
Through four games, Bradford and Foles were on the exact same pace for picks and tds through four games. Foles was on pace for more than a thousand more yards with a YPA almost a full yard higher. Fumbles are the only thing that Bradford has done a much better job of avoiding. That poor start was enough to show Foles the door, but I’m accused of being over critical of Bradford.
Finally, on the ceiling argument, I’m not going to deny that Bradford has more arm strength or even that he’s generally more consistently accurate, although we certainly haven’t seen that his year. My issues are a combination of toughness and production. Bradford has played in the NFL for quite a while and has never averaged 7yards a pass. His QBR was only over 90 one year and it was barely over 90. I haven’t seen any evidence that he’s the solution we were hoping for.
41 HawaiianEagle said at 5:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
well, we have 11 more games to see what is right.
42 RobNE said at 6:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Chip decided Foles wasn’t the guy despite 2013 too. Didn’t he have 4 interceptions today too? So Chip moved his chips to a different square. We’ll see.
I don’t know why after finally we get a win and you take this moment to post how maybe, maybe Bradford and Foles are the same. Who knows. Enjoy the win.
43 Jarock said at 6:10 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yes, he had a bad game today. Not calling Foles the savior, just questioning everyone who’s convinced that Bradford is.
Very happy we finally played a complete game not to mention got our second win. Posted this in reaction to a lot of “Bradford’s so much better than Foles” posts and articles. Apologies if I’ve offended anyone.
44 RobNE said at 6:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I hear you I am just defensive b/c we finally got a somewhat nice win. I hope Bradford is better, but who knows.
45 Neil said at 6:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I haven’t seen anyone convinced Bradford is anything but a bum.
I think when you watch him and evaluate his performance independent of outcomes (the stats) he looks like a significant improvement over Foles. Much better arm and slightly better accuracy so far are the main things, and as bad as the offensive line was for Foles last year it’s been worse this year.
46 Jarock said at 6:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think people get too caught up in how he ‘looks’ and ignore the results too often. I’m not saying that how you produce shouldn’t impact your view of a player, just tired of people ignoring the stats in favor of how a player ‘looks.’ Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson ‘look’ much more imposing and impressive than Antonio Brown, yet Brown has consistently performed as well.
On the o-line, we’ll agree to disagree. First quarter of the year, the o-line was simply dreadful as we were racked with injuries. Foles managed to avoid getting sacked by resorting to the back-pedal forever method. It was ugly. Lot of that was on Foles, but the o-line couldn’t run or pass block last year early on.
47 Neil said at 6:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah, we’ll have to disagree on how he looks vs stats. I think stats are pretty close to completely meaningless. Foles put up historic stats 2013 but never looked good doing it. He never once made a play that made me think he was a great player, just hit wide open receivers with floaty passes over and over because defenses hadn’t figured out how to defend that offense at all at that point. Think the Oakland game, which was a historic statistical performance but Foles didn’t make a single truly impressive play, just made easy throws to wide open players who never dropped the ball, and his line gave him all day. Sure enough, he has looked like an ordinary player in the two seasons after that year and now his stats reflect how he looks.
Bradford right now is good for just as many bonehead plays as Foles was and just as bad a stat line, but the difference is he’s doing it in his first games in a new system and after missing 2 seasons, with an offensive line that’s definitely as bad as Foles ever had to deal with here. He also has physical characteristics that give him the potential to be a special player if he can continue to improve, and we’re starting to see that improvement after his first five games.
I do agree 2014 oline was awful, but they didn’t make me or anyone else say “this is the worst offense I’ve ever seen”.
Antonio Brown’s stats are as good as those players’ because defenses don’t respect him as much. Calvin Johnson might be the only player in history to be doubled on the goalline.
48 Jarock said at 6:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
2014 game vs San Fran. O-line was worse than anything Bradford’s faced all year. Constant pressure. No running game at all. Just an ugly, ugly game.
I’m a bit of a stat junky, so we’ll agree to disagree on how to scout players. I understand the eye-test argument, but I still think people are guilty of giving it too much weight.
49 anon said at 7:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
was it worse, dallas was some of the worst oline play i’ve ever seen
50 Jarock said at 7:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If I remember correctly, they only sacked Nick once that game, but that was because of the combination of drift back to nowhere and throw aways. There was pressure on every pass and McCoy averaged less than 2yards a carry. Was the first time I saw Chip basically give up on even trying to run the ball.
This season, only the skins game has the pass protection broken down with any regularity. Run blocking has been abysmal more often than not, but the pass protection has been solid.
51 anon said at 6:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
think smmy has better decision making, it’s not like he’s missing wide op receivers all day
52 ChoTime said at 6:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Why would you want to evaluate him independent of the outcome? The reason we have numbers is because they are an improvement over fallible human perception.
53 Jarock said at 6:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
lol, my opinion in a nutshell. I do think there’s more to evaluating someone than stats, but you can’t ignore them either.
54 Neil said at 6:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Because you relying on the numbers is an example of human perception being fallible. You can’t substitute math for judgement. You just have to learn judgement.
If the QB dumps it off on a screen for a 99-yard touchdown, did he do anything all 31 other QBs couldn’t do?
If the offensive line let’s somebody into the QB’s face, the ball gets tipped and picked, did the QB do anything wrong?
55 Jarock said at 6:59 PM on October 11th, 2015:
By this argument, Tom Brady’s not really that good. He’s living by the dink and dunk this year. 🙂
The O-Line and receiver connection to performance is real, but you can’t completely excuse the QB either. Great QB’s elevate teams. Mediocre ones don’t, even if they do pass the eye test.
56 Neil said at 7:02 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hah, Tom Brady looks like a fantastic player to me, but it’s definitely not because he can make the throws that a Bradford can. He always knows where to go with the ball and how to turn a profit. That’s different from being bailed out by your team like in my hypothetical, and being a great QB definitely isn’t as simple as being able to throw deep outs.
57 Jarock said at 7:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Honestly, Tom can do it all. He’s a master of taking whatever the D gives him. He never was the most talented guy, but his head’s as good or better than anyone in the game. His arm’s good enough and, the stats back it up. Still, he does benefit a lot from allowing his players to make plays after the catch. He also does a tremendous job of putting them in position to do so.
Anyways, could beat this to death, but in my opinion, stats are a vital part of evaluating any player. They aren’t the whole story, but they are a big part of the story.
58 Jarock said at 7:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Also, in this scenario. The QB had to recognize that the screen was the right play and probably had to draw the rush to him, possibly getting hit in the process. Can all QB’s pull that off? Clearly no, or we’d be seeing 99yard screen plays all the time. A Jay Cutler or Matt Stafford, for instance, might instead decide to try to force a 20yard out which glances off the receivers finger tips. That’s a throw that only a few QB’s can make, but if it’s not effective, who cares? There’s more to playing football than pure talent.
59 Neil said at 7:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
OK, but my point is all of those things are completely lost when you evaluate using stats. All you see with stats is 1/1 99yds 1TD 153.3 QB rating. You can only see that true reality of the situation you describe when watching the tape and using your judgement to form an opinion of what happened, and if you can do that you didn’t need the stats to see what was going on at all.
60 Jarock said at 7:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Still think you need both. Rely too much on the eye-test and you’ll miss patterns. Rams receivers were plagued by drops when Sam was their QB. Now the Eagles suddenly are one of the worst teams for drops. You’ll never catch that just watching the game or you’ll just blame the receivers. Instead it’s almost certainly a combination of both. It’s why baseball scouts rely on stats much more today than they did twenty to thirty years ago. Any good baseball scout will tell you there’s virtually no difference to the eye between a 280 hitter and a 300 one. Huge difference in production though.
61 Neil said at 7:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I disagree. These are NFL receivers, so they should be able to catch NFL throws.
Stats are at best a supplement, but they can just as easily be misleading. However, most people (me included) are not good at figuring out what the heck we’re looking at on the field, so in that case stats can be better at times but only over large stretches of play. Definitely not five games, and possibly not even entire seasons IMO.
62 xeynon said at 8:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think when you watch him and evaluate his performance independent of
outcomes (the stats) he looks like a significant improvement over Foles.
Unfortunately this isn’t a QB skills competition. Outcomes are all that matters and in real NFL games, Bradford has never consistently produced good results, either this year or during his time in St. Louis. I couldn’t care less how he looks in 7-on-7 drills.
63 Neil said at 8:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I don’t care about 7 on 7s either, which is why I was referring to his game performance.
Outcomes matter in the past and in your record as it stands, but they have less predictive power than actually understanding what’s going on and why something can or can’t work. Bradford has been flawed but this team has not lost because he’s a bad player. Much more responsibility falls on the terrible line, and quite a bit on his receivers as well.
64 xeynon said at 8:04 PM on October 11th, 2015:
You’re remembering Foles uncharitably and being a bit too kind to Bradford. Bradford has 6 INTs (two of which weren’t his fault but the remaining four of which were genuinely awful throws/decisions) and a lost fumble through 5 games this year. That’s a 22 turnover pace for a 16 game season, which isn’t good at all, and he’s lucky he hasn’t turned it over more. Foles also made more big plays last year than Bradford has this year (higher YPA, more 20+ yard completions). Bradford until today has not been “lots better” by any objective measure whatsoever.
Higher upside, eh. The guy is 28 and in his 6th NFL season. I tend to believe that what you see is what you get at this point. I’m okay with taking a flier on him, but giving up a high second round pick for him, plus Foles, was WAY too high a price.
65 anon said at 8:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
why are we even having this discussion, they’re both mediocre. Foles looks terrible in stl, bradford looks mediocre here
66 Nelson ALGore said at 8:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think Turnovers are a funny thing. I like to look at context more than just numbers.
For example a pick in the 1st half doesn’t hurt as much as a pick in the 4th qtr.
I also seem to remember that Foles would just toss it up in the end of a half and get a meaningless pick
67 RobNE said at 8:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
ok but all Chip decided is Foles isn’t the guy. He may decide Bradford isn’t either. But the ability to upgrade at QB can be really hard.
So isn’t it enough to say Foles wasn’t the guy and to date Bradford looks iffy? Why do we have to decide after 5 games?
68 Jarock said at 8:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Not saying the die’s been cast. Just pointed out that 5 games of mediocrity was enough to get Foles banished. You’re absolutely correct that QB is one of the hardest positions to upgrade. I’m still sore that we overpaid for what’s looking like a one year rental of a mediocre player.
69 Nelson ALGore said at 8:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Did u see Foles play today…. Highly inconsistent player
70 livingonapear said at 6:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Bradford is also improving from game to game. His movement in the pocket and the way he bought himself time today is better than anything I’ve seen Foles do. Foles has also gotten worse as the season progresses.
So I’m still feeling bullish on Bradford. We’ll find out over the next few weeks how much that’s worth.
71 The original AG said at 6:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
71% completion percentage today. After the 2 bad INTs he seemed to rebound and did much better. I think people are looking for Rodgers/Brady type performances and that’s unrealistic.
72 Jarock said at 6:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Looking for 65% completion rate, 3:1 TD – INT, and 7.5 YPP. That’s not quite Brady/Rodgers, but it’s more than Bradford’s ever produced. Hate that he’s thrown some really bad picks this season too, given that a low int % was one of his better qualities playing for the Rams.
73 The original AG said at 6:41 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He’s had a few games this season with 70% completion percentage. The last couple of games he didn’t turn the ball over, but today seemed to be one of those bad days early on for him. But he rebounded and the offense took care of business. Just by the eye test, he’s slightly better than what Foles was last year who I don’t think had the completion percentage in the 60s.
I’m not saying Bradford is the next coming of Montana, but he has made much better decisions with the ball this year than Foles did last year. Foles is the type of QB that has a couple good games a year, but is way too inconsistent. If Bradford is in the 70% range most games, we will win. His upside is way better, and he’s looking more comfortable.
74 Jarock said at 6:46 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He was close to hitting those stats today. Comp was there and YPP was close. Today, my only real complaint was the picks and that he still looks skittish in the pocket. His decision making when he’s forced to hold the ball gets very questionable. Usually, if a QB is able to hold the ball for three plus seconds w/o getting pressured, you expect someone to break wide-open. With Sam, I expect him to either checkdown or throw into coverage. Really hope he improves there.
75 The original AG said at 6:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I agree with you here. I want to see Bradford put together 4 quarters of play and not turn the ball over. Those 2 INTs were terrible, and Riley was open in the EZ had he thrown it higher. Could of had 14 more points on the board and 7 less for the Saints.
76 Neil said at 7:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I agree with this assessment overall, but I wouldn’t blame Sam for checking down or throwing into coverage after holding the ball if you haven’t confirmed there was an open receiver downfield he could have thrown to instead. That’s pretty unfair to him.
77 Jarock said at 7:55 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Without the all-22, you’re correct, I’m being harsh. Case where I wasn’t being harsh though was in the Dallas game. Third and a mile. Dallas rushes three, drops eight. Sam drops back, looks at one guy deep and immediately dumps it to a RB staring at three defenders between him and where he needs to get for the 1st down. There wasn’t a player within three yards of Sam when he threw the ball. That’s an eye-test example of a QB who doesn’t trust his line or have faith that he can make a downfield throw.
78 Neil said at 7:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah, and I think that one’s fair. He has made a lot of questionable decisions and bad throws so far.
79 anon said at 7:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
they need to keep rolling him out, was way better. drops also dont help his completion percentage
80 Jarock said at 7:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
As I noted below, can’t help wondering if the dropsies are a chicken or egg argument. Fact that the Rams were plagued by drops when Sam was their QB makes me wonder how much is caused by him. Not saying it’s all on him, but it sure seems he’s part of the problem.
81 Neil said at 7:47 PM on October 11th, 2015:
We can’t rule it out at this point because the drops when he’s QB continue, but we also have no reason to point the finger at him. The Rams had complete dog poop at pass catcher his whole time there. The Eagles have young receivers who in a few cases have a history of drops. The passes are tight spirals and the only thing I can see that would make it hard to catch them is velocity, but this is the NFL, and Bradford isn’t the only strong arm or even the strongest thowing right now or in the past.
I can tell you one thing for sure, none of our receivers think it’s Bradford’s fault.
82 xeynon said at 8:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Bradford has thrown four absolutely atrocious picks this year (the first one against Atlanta, the one to Lee in the Dallas game, and the two today). I don’t think you can say a guy who throws four Ryan Leaf-level interceptions in 5 games is making better decisions with the ball than anybody. “Has a couple good games a year, but is way too inconsistent”? That sounds exactly like Sam Bradford to me.
83 The original AG said at 8:18 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Every QB throws bad passes except maybe Brady and Rodgers. 70% completion rate more than a couple times is not inconsistent. He’s thrown INTs in 3 games, and none in 2. That’s way more consistency than we had last year.
84 xeynon said at 8:57 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He had other games where he was barely at 50% for completion percentage, including last week. That is the very definition of inconsistent.
85 The original AG said at 8:59 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Last week they had lots of dropsies, and dumb penalties. He wasn’t the problem last week, actually he had a more consistent game last week without help.
86 Jarock said at 8:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d also love for Bradford to get the teams 3rd down % to around 45%. That’s probably not realistic, but it’s what we need for the offense to be truly successful.
87 Nelson ALGore said at 9:29 PM on October 11th, 2015:
not when its 3rd and 8 on average. Same problem we had last year.
88 Insomniac said at 6:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Bradford is what he’s always been in the NFL. He makes some beautiful throws sometimes but isn’t consistent enough to be above-average.
89 ac134spectre said at 6:00 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Well, did the wr finally hang onto the ball and the OL black half decent? If so the team has a shot.
Most of this season has been self destruct mode.
90 RobNE said at 6:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
where’s the troll? Juvie doesn’t allow internet access on Sunday’s?
91 The original AG said at 6:09 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Well when they win convincingly, it’s hard to come troll.
92 Insomniac said at 6:29 PM on October 11th, 2015:
His Cowgirls are losing so he’s probably trolling some Patriots site.
93 D3FB said at 6:04 AM on October 12th, 2015:
He went like 0 for 9 on his predictions this week.
94 RobNE said at 6:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I thought the Pats would crush the Cowboys.
95 Jarock said at 6:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Dallas’ defense has clearly improved over last season. Still, I can’t see Weeden bringing them back from two scores down.
96 RobNE said at 6:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yes and Hardy, geez. Now it’s 20-3. The Pats are really great, they so rarely make mistakes.
97 Jarock said at 6:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hate em, but respect em. Hard to be as consistently good for that long.as they’ve managed. Probably the only game all year where I hope they win.
98 Buge Halls said at 7:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Turns out they did
99 RobNE said at 8:10 PM on October 11th, 2015:
hahaha yes they did. Awesome.
100 Iskar36 said at 6:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It was great to see us dominate in a game like we did. Without the two terrible INTs in the first half, this game would have been even more unbelievable. I’d love to believe Tommy that this team looked different and maybe that is a sign of turning things around, but I also fear that we benefited a ton from a favorable matchup and a poor performance by the Saints. We certainly did what we should be able to do against a defense that is this bad, but until I see it at any consistent level, I still feel uneasy about this team. At least we took a big step in the right direction.
101 jpate said at 6:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Lewis is the next sproles
102 anon said at 6:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
wow, making the vet min.
103 Media Mike said at 6:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Not anymore. They just signed him to a new 2 year deal this week.
104 anon said at 6:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yea but for like $2M
105 Media Mike said at 6:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Beats $800k
106 FairOaks said at 6:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think up to 4.8 over two years.
107 Jarock said at 6:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That was a special juke in the open field by Dion Lewis. Great move.
108 RobNE said at 6:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
that was incredible.
109 mksp said at 6:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He’s amazing. Wish he had his mind right when he was in Philly.
110 Jarock said at 6:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He was also buried on the bench if memory serves. Couldn’t make it in Cleveland either. Glad he’s finally producing but wish it was for almost any other team.
111 myartz04 said at 6:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
In line for a lot of playing time in CLE but broke his leg
112 anon said at 6:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
stafford benched
113 SteveH said at 6:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Just gonna enjoy the fact we won today. And that the skins lost painfully. And that Dallas is starting to get trucked by NE.
114 xeynon said at 8:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I can’t enjoy it too much, because while Dallas is also 2-3, they got their blowout loss to New England out of the way. We still have to endure ours.
115 RobNE said at 8:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I know what you say. We seem to be kinda bad at the short stuff over the middle or the quick outs, and um, that’s what they do better than anybody. It’s me against like 15 neighbors, so I really, really hope I am wrong.
116 D3FB said at 6:02 AM on October 12th, 2015:
They still have the Seahawks, us coming off the bye, Panthers on a short week (Romo sucks on Thursdays), Packers, Jets, Bills.
Pats and Cards are the only two games we have left that I would call us prohibitive dogs.
117 Insomniac said at 6:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
With Hicks emergence as a potential playmaker, maybe we can trade Kiko for Gurley.
118 The original AG said at 6:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d rather get a young OLineman.
119 Insomniac said at 6:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
it was a joke lol but yea we really need another anchor at OL
120 The original AG said at 6:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Gurley is the real deal. 153 yards rushing, and his QB did him no favors.
121 Insomniac said at 6:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yup. He’s what I was hoping Murray would be for us.
122 Jarock said at 6:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Bet Mathis would be available 🙂
123 SteveH said at 6:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
You know, our schedule looks softer now than it did at the start of the season. Detroit and Miami are a mess, and they would have been medium to tough opponents if you’d asked in the offseason.
124 Media Mike said at 6:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Every team on this schedule except New England has significant flaws.
125 Insomniac said at 6:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
None of those team have a decent QB
126 Jarock said at 6:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Stafford and Tannehill are both talented. I’ve never been sold on Stafford’s head, but he’s as arm-talented as anyone. Tannehill, I haven’t seen often enough to make a judgement.
127 jpate said at 6:41 PM on October 11th, 2015:
does caldwell survive till then? They are so bad
128 Jarock said at 6:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Given today’s score, safe to say the team quit on him. Coaches don’t survive that.
129 The original AG said at 6:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Think he gets fired mid-season?
130 Jarock said at 6:47 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It’s the Lions, so probably not. Too many really bad years and ownership probably still has last years 11-5 in their eyes.
131 Media Mike said at 6:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
And I think you’re more likely to see Lombardi fired now so Caldwell can take over the play calling.
132 Kelce's Beard said at 7:41 PM on October 11th, 2015:
he may not be playing by then. benched today.
that team already playing for 2016, and we don’t see them for another month plus
133 anon said at 7:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
stafford has stolen more money than stafford
134 sonofdman said at 8:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d say it’s about equal.
135 xeynon said at 8:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’ll go farther than that. Stafford sucks. He and Cutler are contemporary versions of Jeff George – naturally talented enough to get any coach fired, not good enough at actually playing football to win anything with.
136 RobNE said at 8:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Jeff George just crushed UVa in a bowl game. I’ll always hate that guy. Please don’t bring him up again.
137 Media Mike said at 6:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Great win.
Foolish errors on red zone INTs by Bradford and emabarassing 5+ drops aside…
Great win.
Hope we can ride some momentum in a win over the garbage Giants on Monday night before slapping around that piece of human garbage Scam Newton on the following Sunday night so we can go into the by week at 4-3.
138 The original AG said at 6:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Let’s just focus on Monday night. Beat the Giants and they can really control their own destiny. If they go in the bye at 4-3, I’d consider that significant progress. Plus it gives Peters, Johnson, Barbre, Kendricks, and Alonso time to heal up for the stretch run.
139 Media Mike said at 6:37 PM on October 11th, 2015:
We don’t have to actually play, so I can sit here and pretend we’re going to be 12-4 with only a loss to New England left on the schedule.
But I agree that the team needs to simply worry about busting up Eli.
140 Media Mike said at 6:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If you’re the Saints, how soon do you go into full fire sale mode?
I’d trade any guy on that roster who is 27 or older, especially Brees.
141 Jarock said at 6:40 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Would you trade Bradford for Brees straight up? I would.
142 Media Mike said at 6:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That’s an excellent question. I think you’d have to. But the Saints would want picks, so I guess we’ll never know.
143 anon said at 6:40 PM on October 11th, 2015:
they’ve already started, they’re slated to be over the cap next year.
144 Media Mike said at 6:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m more looking at when the time would be best to maximize the value of Brees.
145 Kelce's Beard said at 7:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
easier said than done.
Brees, Cameron Jordan and Byrd are their top 3 cap hits; Jordan and Byrd are fresh contracts, don’t think either of those 2 are going anywhere.
Next 3 biggest are Colston, Unger, and Keenan Lewis. Only Colston I see getting cut from that trio, and he only saves them $3M next year.
The next few are Morstead (punter, may go but not exactly huge savings), RT Strief (not worth cutting/trading, limited savings and can’t cut everyone), ILB Hawthorne, G Jahri Evans (only saves $1M if cut next year), and then Spiller and Ingram.
They’ll probably be bad for a few years as they rebuild
146 JoeBlow said at 6:43 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Does this mean Jim Caldwell gets the USC job now?
147 Media Mike said at 6:44 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d be willing to be they fire Lombardi as the OC before Caldwell gets fired.
148 jpate said at 6:43 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Simms “His declining ability is 0”
The things this guy does to the English language.
149 Media Mike said at 6:44 PM on October 11th, 2015:
How Simms stays employed as an analyst is beyond me. He’s terrible.
150 Buge Halls said at 7:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That being said, he’s still world’s better than Collingsworth!
151 Media Mike said at 7:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Although Collingsworth is more aggressive in an annoying manner, I think Simms is light years more stupid.
152 xeynon said at 8:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I disagree entirely. Collinsworth can be smarmy at times but the dude knows the game and his commentary on what happened on particular plays is often enlightening. Simms’ analysis is basically zero value added as well as being annoying.
153 The original AG said at 8:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I always feel I’m one of the few people that likes Collingsworth.
154 Jarock said at 8:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I find myself liking muting the TV more and more as I get older.
155 sonofdman said at 8:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I watched the game at a bar today for the first time in a long time and couldn’t here the announcers. It was wonderful.
156 mksp said at 6:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Derek Carr playing really well against one of the best defenses in the league.
I say it all the time.
But.
Nick Foles’ garbage, false positive, scheme-aided 2013 season set this franchise back a couple years.
Derek Carr & Teddy Bridgewater were right there for the taking when we settled for MS III.
157 mksp said at 6:52 PM on October 11th, 2015:
aaaaaaaand he throws a pick-6 just as I write that.
I stand by my statement, for what it’s worth.
You guys need me to jinx anything else while I’m at it?
158 jpate said at 6:53 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Say how great beasley is please
159 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Denver’s D is really nasty this year.
160 Media Mike said at 6:53 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Teddy would be a really interesting guy. And I was fixated on him becoming an Eagle after 2012 ended. Shame the Foles 2013 was a fluke.
161 mksp said at 6:53 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Teddy seems tailor-made for this offense, agreed.
162 The original AG said at 6:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah, fools gold. They had to make a change there.
163 RobNE said at 8:09 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yup. Not sure what else to say other than take another swig of beer and think I need to let this go.
164 Jarock said at 8:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Guess I’m one of the few who doesn’t think that Nick’s 2013 was a mirage. Would have loved to see what would have happened with Nick if we could have kept Bill Lazor as his QB coach. His mechanics were much, much worse in 2014 than at any point in 2013.
165 Jarock said at 8:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Crazy part is even with Nick playing well, wouldn’t have been opposed to taking a flyer on Bridgewater or Carr. Combine Nick’s tendency to get hurt with his square peg round hole fit and either would have been a good pick.
166 xeynon said at 8:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think Foles’ likely ceiling is middle-of-the-road starter. So fine with moving on from him. But I’m not crying any tears about missing out on Carr. Bridgewater, the jury’s still out.
167 Jarock said at 8:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Fair assessment of Foles. I like Carr and Bridgewater, but they’re both too young to state definitively that they’ll be failures or successes.
168 jpate said at 6:52 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Damn. Stafford is benched
169 Media Mike said at 6:57 PM on October 11th, 2015:
R.I.P. to my suicide pool. The Chiefs choked away a home game as 10 point favorites to the garbage Bears. Needless to say, I’ll be doing some very vindictive swearing at Andy Reid if I ever see him. He stole money from me today and there needs to be some type of punishment for that.
170 Jarock said at 8:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
lol
171 Jarock said at 8:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If that’s the worst thing Andy’s ever done to you, your memory is worse than mine and I’m getting old.
172 mksp said at 6:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
While I’m thinking about the 2014 draft….
Why on earth did Chip take Jordan Matthews over Allen Robinson?
There has to be a story here.
I know most of us preferred Robinson, though that may have been some people PSU bias.
173 The original AG said at 6:59 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Think JMatt is a CK-type player. His work ethic is what CK wants in his players. I don’t know about Robinson, but I think that’s what tipped it in favor of JMatt.
I also think that if he got JMatt in the 1st round, what the rest of the draft would have looked like.
174 jpate said at 7:00 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Or moncrief
edit: I meant over huff
175 Media Mike said at 7:00 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Moncrief needs to produce on a regular basis before I get myself in a twist over passing on him.
176 mksp said at 7:01 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I hated Moncrief too (body catcher extraordinaire).
Him and Matthews were the two guys I didn’t want.
I was team Arob & team Latimer.
1 for 2?
177 Insomniac said at 7:01 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I would have been disgusted with Matthews in the first. Nothing besides his work ethic (hasn’t helped his awful hands or body control yet) even hinted that he shouldn’t have been a 3rd round pick.
178 mksp said at 7:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Right, like, if he worked as hard as he talked about it, maybe he’d make a tough catch at some point.
179 Insomniac said at 7:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d even settle for the easier ones at this rate.
180 daveH said at 7:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
ok I didn’t see the game .. what the heck did he do ??
181 Media Mike said at 7:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
More annoying drops. At least 2.
182 Insomniac said at 7:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He’s giving Riley Cooper a run for his money for the worst hands on the team.
183 mksp said at 7:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Just the usual.
184 anon said at 7:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
all that time upside down catching from the jugs machine now working
185 The original AG said at 7:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m not a draft-nik really. I think this year watching CK’s draft, he’s the kind of person to go after who he wants, even if it is early. He didn’t want to lose Matthews, which is why they traded up in the 2nd to get him.
186 Insomniac said at 7:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
This is why I’m down on Chip being the GM. He values his ideology more than actual talent. He’ll either succeed or fail hard.
187 The original AG said at 7:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Lets hope the former and not the latter.
188 Jarock said at 7:10 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Why I’m not sold on him. Don’t think he’ll automatically fail, but I do think he needs to grow in this area.
189 Media Mike said at 6:59 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m still annoyed with Huff over John Brown in the 3rd.
190 Jarock said at 7:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Robinson was allergic to blocking at PSU. Pretty sure that didn’t help his evaluation.
191 mksp said at 7:05 PM on October 11th, 2015:
What are the chances the Giants noticed our win today and start thinking ahead to next week?
Can I get a trap game guys?
LET’S DO IT KAEPERNICKY.
192 Media Mike said at 7:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
This will be one of the ONLY times in my life that I’ll be cheering for that Kaepertrash.
I hate the Giants more than anything in all of sports.
GO NINERS!
193 The original AG said at 7:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Since we had a win, let’s focus on positives all week.
How about MS2 getting a pressure that led to an INT? He got a decent amount of time at the end of the game. Still has to come far, but progress nonetheless.
194 Jarock said at 7:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That was one more pressure than I saw from BG all game 🙂
195 Media Mike said at 7:09 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Graham is on my last nerve. The fact that his productively has scaled up with the increased snaps is vexing.
196 Jarock said at 7:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Honestly not that surprised. He’s doing ok, but certainly not one of the best pass rushers in the league. Also, kind of expected his productivity to take a dip with the increased workload. Saw the same thing happen at the end of last season when he got the opportunity to play entire games.
197 Media Mike said at 7:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I foolishly believed that he’d turn a corner and be a good OLB.
198 Kelce's Beard said at 7:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
against a rookie LT no less
199 Insomniac said at 7:08 PM on October 11th, 2015:
About time he got on the field.
200 mksp said at 7:09 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He’ll be fine.
Just gonna be next year until we realize it.
201 The original AG said at 7:09 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Thinking this might be the case.
202 Iskar36 said at 7:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Not to be a buzz kill after a win, but the guy was a healthy scratch twice in his second season at a position we aren’t exactly loaded with depth at and he gets ONE good pressure in his first 21 games and we are saying “He’ll be fine?”
Let’s see him play with any level of consistency first before we say a guy who has had an impressively awful beginning to his career will be fine moving forward.
203 Jarock said at 7:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
MSII gets no slack from either the fans or the media. I’m excited he made a definite positive contribution, but that doesn’t mean I think he should be starting. Given his athleticism and work ethic, I think there’s still a decent chance he develops into a solid LB. No guarantees though and yes, I’m disappointed by the lack of early returns as well.
204 Iskar36 said at 7:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I guess my view is that he is not deserving of any slack. He was a first round pick at a position where rotating players is the norm, but despite that, today, his 21st game of his career with I believe only a single game missed due to injury, he recorded his first sack.
On top of that, you say he is an athlete yet he can’t find his way even onto STs just to contribute in any way to this team. I wasn’t particularly a fan of the pic at the time, but trusted the team and coaches saw something meaningful and had a plan. Clearly that has not been the case.
Also, this is more curiosity than disagreement, but where do you see his work ethic? I haven’t really heard anything noteworthy about his work ethic since he came to the Eagles. I know there was one or two stories talking about how he came to camp stronger this year than last, but to me, that same story is written about every single first round pick every year, just find and replace name, so I don’t really put much stock into that.
205 Jarock said at 7:48 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Work ethic is based on what I’d read about him both in college and as a pro. Biggest issue I have with MSII is he’s missing an edge. Yes, he’s a tremendous athlete, but he’s behind Norman Braman who’s an exceptional ST player. Once again, while he’s physically strong and fast, that doesn’t make him violent. It’s the missing piece imho from him becoming a viable player. Truth is, he was a reach by the FO. I know some argue that he wasn’t, but even if another team was considering taking him with the very next pick, it was early based on his on the field production. Almost all of his sacks in college came on games, twists, stunts etc where they schemed him getting clean runs at the QB. That’s why I’m excited, even if it’s a somewhat sarcastic excited, to see him beat a tackle one on one.
206 The original AG said at 7:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/653313185919971328
207 jpate said at 7:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Lol..too many jokes to be made here
208 The original AG said at 7:18 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Didn’t register how that sounded until after you said something. LOL.
209 Mitchell said at 7:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
In the showers huh? Im glad Peters ans Johnson were there.
210 HawaiianEagle said at 7:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
No Cox though…only offensive guys…
211 Buge Halls said at 7:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
No Cox? Just the cheerleaders?
212 Jarock said at 7:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah, read this on another site. Chuckled then, too.
213 Mitchell said at 7:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I cant wait for Baloophi or ATG to get a hold of this juicy story.
214 Joe Minx said at 8:59 PM on October 11th, 2015:
#leadership
#culture
#badmentalimage
215 Buge Halls said at 7:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I just wish that Matthews would teach Murry how to run straight downfield between the tackles instead of running for the sideline every play! I thought we saw the last of that nonsense when McCoy was booted up north!
216 Media Mike said at 7:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Murray didn’t destroy the league last year doing a Bryce Brown impersonation.
Murray has tried to bounce a few that he shouldn’t, but way too many of the play calls with him have been parallel to the line rather than north/south.
217 Jarock said at 7:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Combination of hamstrings and hesitancy. Doesn’t look quite as explosive as last year and he’s looking for the perfect hole instead of blasting for the first crease he sees.
218 Buge Halls said at 7:29 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah, there’s no way to tell what the play calls are, but it seems like there are holes that he misses running sideways – easy to say from the recliner!
219 Insomniac said at 7:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Maybe Murray can teach Matthews how to catch.
220 Buge Halls said at 7:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Other Matthews, but yes
221 Insomniac said at 8:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It’s Mathews not Matthews man
222 sonofdman said at 8:45 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They could both stand to drop fewer balls.
223 Buge Halls said at 10:14 AM on October 12th, 2015:
*sigh* really?
224 The original AG said at 7:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/653348488906973184
225 anon said at 7:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
start sanchez first half bradford second half
226 Jarock said at 7:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
lol
227 Rambo said at 7:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
This really made me laugh out loud.
228 section118 said at 9:18 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I thought that was when tebow comes in?
229 The original AG said at 7:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/653348138007314432
230 Mitchell said at 7:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
So nice to have to playmaking safeties. This is like a dream come true.
231 section118 said at 9:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
While the secondary still needs to take steps forward, the amount of improvement made in a year is astonishing. I was skeptical but have to see I’m impressed with how we’ve revamped the unit through FA moves and drafting. Next up: offensive line
232 BobSmith77 said at 7:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Marcus Smith Lives! Marcus Smith Lives!
233 oreofestar said at 7:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
We’ve looked like garbage all year but it was solid outing today minus the turnovers and hopefully a step in the right direction,Murray still.needs to step up but 80 yards is better than 9 so I’ll take it, let’s destroy the Giants next week
234 JoeBlow said at 8:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Damn Sarkisian is def. done at USC, showed up to team meeting today drunk, asked to take a leave of absence
235 ChoTime said at 8:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If the eagles had lost today….
236 EagleNebula said at 9:52 PM on October 11th, 2015:
…nothing would change. Chip isn’t leaving this year, and has no interest in returning to college at this point in time.
237 KAJomo said at 8:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Who started at RG today? I was at the game and never thought to check.
238 JoeBlow said at 8:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Tobin
239 BobSmith77 said at 8:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Tallest midget.
240 JoeBlow said at 8:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Love how everyone picked the Giants to just rollover the Niners tonight
241 The original AG said at 8:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Me too.
242 A_T_G said at 8:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
We all have made the jokes about #culture, but I think we saw it today. A QB who takes men into the showers and encourages them to get things turned around (ahem…stay focused…actual point to make) then comes out and throws a pick in the Endzone, twice.
A lot of offenses would have quit or mutinied at that point. There were no signs of either. A lot of defenses would have quit or gotten burned trying to be heroes. There was none of that either. Instead, the players held together, stayed focused, and went into halftime with the lead.
243 Jarock said at 8:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
SF running over the Giants right now.
244 JoeBlow said at 8:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
it’s a beautiful thing
245 The original AG said at 8:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
SF looks like they came to play today.
246 scratcherk said at 8:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Oline was solid today. Hoping it wasnt false hope against a woeful Saints D. Even so, maybe the confidence boost will help going forward.
247 Jarock said at 8:40 PM on October 11th, 2015:
We’ve had two solid outings by the OL so far this year. To the surprise of no one, those are the two games we won. Thought that perhaps, we’d turned the corner after the Jets game only for us to stink vs. the ‘Skins. Need to see it a couple weeks in a row before I’m willing to believe.
248 The original AG said at 8:41 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m more hopeful this time, but you’re right. Against the Jets they seemed to struggle a bit in the 2nd half, whereas they seemed to play a full game today. Giants defense isn’t great, so it’s another favorable matchup for the offense. A couple good games could give them the boost they need.
249 Iskar36 said at 9:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hopefully that’s true. However, if the issue is chemistry and confidence, then the boost will be meaningful. On the other hand, if the issue is just lack of talent, then no boost in confidence will be enough to help the Oline against stronger defenses.
250 The original AG said at 9:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Lets hope it’s the former.
251 EagleNebula said at 9:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Kelce made a comment about the chemistry improving- if that is meaningful. it makes me hopeful but I tend to be an optimist.
252 section118 said at 9:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I credit anyone who says they are an optimist even while following the Eagles
253 EagleNebula said at 9:54 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I never said I wasn’t a masochist
254 The original AG said at 8:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Wow, Kap takes some deep drops.
255 Joe Minx said at 9:04 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Today was the first time I could actually hear Bradford barking stuff out in the huddle. Increased assertiveness.
256 Joe Minx said at 9:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
lol Collinsworth trying to talk up Landon Collins. He still sucks.
257 section118 said at 9:26 PM on October 11th, 2015:
#freechase
258 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
kap going through progressions….
259 anon said at 9:46 PM on October 11th, 2015:
49ers terrible
260 Corry said at 9:47 PM on October 11th, 2015:
awful. They lost way too much and getting rid of Harbaugh was just dumb.
261 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They need to stop trying to pretend Kap is a traditional QB
262 Corry said at 9:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yeah. Harbaugh and Roman did a great job with that offense and emphasizing what Kap is good at. But all that star power lost on defense is just crippling for the team.
263 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They aren’t horrible on D though. I think they still play well enough to win.
That O cant score or finish drives
264 Corry said at 10:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They’re bottom half of the league in almost all staistical categories with rankings in the 20s. Points per game, they’re tied for 28th. Granted the offense is hanging the D out to dry, but they have fallen pretty far from the peak of the Harbaugh years.
265 BobSmith77 said at 10:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
UM alumni are grateful. Best they have looked since Lloyd Carr.
266 Corry said at 10:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
And PSU fans wish he had stayed in the NFL. The B1G is really coming up though. With OSU, MSU, and UM, it’s been a resurgence for the conference. I just hope PSU can improve to keep up.
267 D3FB said at 5:48 AM on October 12th, 2015:
Take a look at the recruiting class, talent is coming.
268 JoeBlow said at 9:48 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Eli gonna Eli
269 EagleNebula said at 9:57 PM on October 11th, 2015:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWQ-mvXCQAAxeF-.jpg:large
270 JoeBlow said at 9:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
always a crowd pleaser
271 EagleNebula said at 10:00 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I was too impatient to find the kimpski gif of all the faces…
272 Corry said at 9:49 PM on October 11th, 2015:
For the first time all year, I was able to enjoy the game in the second half. yeah the Saints are bad, but it was good to see the offense just click. Bradford made some bad throws, but it’s nice to just enjoy the game.
273 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:55 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Cant wait to see who draft in the 3rd round this year. We have two picks there
274 JoeBlow said at 9:57 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think there are some good OL prospects that will fall in that area, although it is early to tell
275 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:04 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I wonder if we play ourselves out of a top 10 pick. There are so many bad teams we could end up picking in the mid 20s again
276 JoeBlow said at 10:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yea way too early to tell anything….where certain college players will fall in the draft….where we will pick can be anywhere based on the ineptitude of this team and a lot of teams around the league
277 mksp said at 10:00 PM on October 11th, 2015:
DET looks terrible too. Could be pretty close to a 2nd rounder.
278 JoeBlow said at 10:01 PM on October 11th, 2015:
o yea, i forgot that was where the other 3rd came from
279 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:04 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They have so much talent, its a shame
280 anon said at 10:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
someoe should take megatron off their hnds he’s getting wasted up there
281 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Wont be the first time that organization has wasted a generational talent
282 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If Kap could be consistent… their Offense could be a force
283 BobSmith77 said at 10:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Glad the Eagles won to simply keep interest alive in the season. Hopefully they can keep that going including with a W next win vs Giants. Panthers’ game almost doesn’t mean that much this week since the only way this team makes the playoffs is through winning the NFC East.
Need to take at least 3 of their remaining 4 vs NFC East foes. The cynics will cry ‘making the playoffs at 8-8 doesn’t mean much’ and to that I say would you rather have the Eagles home or playing in Jan.
284 JoeBlow said at 10:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Was wondering when they would put Hayne in
285 BobSmith77 said at 10:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Listening to a lot people call in to complain on 97.5 even after a W like today is just baffling.
Negative overkill last week wasn’t surprising but tonight I’m surprised a bit including the people complaining that this team isn’t as good as the best in the NFC. It is Week 5.
286 myartz04 said at 10:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It’s frustrating…nothing is ever good enough.
287 BobSmith77 said at 10:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Nattering nabobs of negativism.
Yeah this team has a lot of flaws but at least there is still a valid reason to follow them.
Would people prefer following a season like the Flyers & Sixers are going to have or the Phils just had? Sixers might not win 20 games and the Flyers are in limbo since they aren’t bad enough to get a top pick or good enough to sneak into the playoffs.
288 myartz04 said at 10:43 PM on October 11th, 2015:
No matter the complaint, we can’t do anything about it. It’s much more fun to enjoy the positives. Can’t enjoy the Huff TD without stressing about “yeah but the two defenders tackled each other”. Nothing is ever easy in the NFL and not sure why so many just demand perfection. I’m happy with the W.
289 section118 said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
You can only beat the team you faced. We played a terrible team… but we blew them out
290 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:41 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m not sure what else people wanted today… I think most Philly fans just like to be angry
291 JoeBlow said at 10:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
OMG Kaepernick!
292 Corry said at 10:42 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Wow wow wow. Just really poor awareness.
293 Corry said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
If the Giants lose tonight, the entire NFC East will be 2-3.
294 section118 said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
First place!!
295 BobSmith77 said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Are the Eagles going to triple-cover Beckham next week?
296 section118 said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Don’t worry, Fletcher Cox is on it
297 JoeBlow said at 10:50 PM on October 11th, 2015:
your lucky to get any kind of double coverage out of mr davis
298 RC5000 said at 10:52 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Dan GrazianoESPN Staff Write
Odell Beckham Jr. has a hamstring injury and is questionable to return.
299 JoeBlow said at 10:52 PM on October 11th, 2015:
he does get dinged up very easily….did he hurt himself doin that dance in the end zone btw?
300 sonofdman said at 10:56 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I think the game plan calls for single covering him with Byron Maxwell and no safety help. Then we can all get mad and say how much Maxwell sucks because he didn’t shut Beckham down.
301 section118 said at 10:58 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Anyone know if Cruz is expected to play next Monday?
302 JoeBlow said at 11:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
not likely, i don’t think he has even started running yet. Hasn’t practiced yet this season at least
303 peteike said at 10:51 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Cmon niners, ya man nice
304 jpate said at 11:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Niners defense suck
305 section118 said at 11:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Why did they drop that…
306 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:04 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Thurmond would have caught it
307 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:03 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Have to pick that!
308 Corry said at 11:05 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Odell Beckham aside, Eli’s dink and dunk ability could be frustrating next week.
309 JoeBlow said at 11:06 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I wonder if the eagles will go blackout for this game like they did last year on primetime
310 section118 said at 11:07 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I wonder if the Giants will stomp on the Eagles logo
311 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:10 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m actually hoping they do
312 JoeBlow said at 11:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I love Boldin, dude is money
313 Corry said at 11:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I still want him in Midnight Green.
314 JoeBlow said at 11:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
he is a 36 year old free agent next spring
315 Corry said at 11:13 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He could be next year’s Miles Austin!
316 JoeBlow said at 11:15 PM on October 11th, 2015:
there’s been a lot of speculation that san fran may dangle him at the trade deadline
317 Corry said at 11:18 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’d gladly offer a late round conditional pick for him.
318 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Throw it up to him in the Redzone
319 Corry said at 11:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
No. No more throwing in the red zone for Bradford.
320 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
LOL… its going to happen
321 section118 said at 11:11 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m so excited to see Eli’s clock management again
322 JoeBlow said at 11:12 PM on October 11th, 2015:
come on Niners, punch this in
323 peteike said at 11:14 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Why do I feel like this 3 yards will feel impossible
324 section118 said at 11:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Well that got easier…
325 section118 said at 11:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Or…. Why do you pass there……
326 peteike said at 11:16 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yes drc
327 JoeBlow said at 11:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Kaep had 3 options and threw it to the least open guy
328 peteike said at 11:17 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yes
329 Corry said at 11:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
As awful as Kaep has been, no one should ever talk about Blaine Gabbert taking over at QB. Never.
330 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:19 PM on October 11th, 2015:
They should kill ODB at the LOS this drive
331 JoeBlow said at 11:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
he aint comin in
332 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
just saw that
333 anon said at 11:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
obj hurt himself dancing
334 peteike said at 11:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Odb you mean, his body acts old anyway
335 section118 said at 11:20 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Eli fall down
336 JoeBlow said at 11:21 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I have a feeling Eli throws a stupid pass that a giants receiver somehow makes a great play on to win….just don’t trust this niners secondary
337 peteike said at 11:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m killing this jinx NOW
338 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Niners are gonna let Vereem but them out the backfield
339 Corry said at 11:22 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That Vereen guy is pretty decent. maybe you should cover him better.
340 peteike said at 11:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
No wrs out there
341 SteveH said at 11:23 PM on October 11th, 2015:
lol what just happened?
342 JoeBlow said at 11:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
was that a catch?
343 section118 said at 11:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Show the Manning face, please NBC
344 Corry said at 11:24 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hit the ground. Eli lives for another play.
345 anon said at 11:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
wouldn’t be the first blown call today
346 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Aint that the truth
347 JoeBlow said at 11:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That should have been a fair catch int
348 jpate said at 11:25 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Should of been an int
349 SteveH said at 11:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I’m 0.2 points from cashing in my fanduel tourney, with Carlos Hyde playing. No chance he gets the ball I think.
350 Corry said at 11:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
oh c’mon. That’s intentional grounding.
351 SteveH said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He was targeting the niners DL, no call.
352 KAJomo said at 11:27 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Hiw was that not grounding
353 anon said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
we need and aaron lynch
354 Corry said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Nah, we have plenty of guys who almost get to the QB.
355 peteike said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
30 sec 30 yards
356 peteike said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Oh 20yds
357 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Sill not gonna account for the RB, huh?
358 anon said at 11:28 PM on October 11th, 2015:
49ers channeling billy davis today
359 peteike said at 11:29 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Ugh pi
360 JoeBlow said at 11:29 PM on October 11th, 2015:
how are they not calling holds on the giants tackles?
361 jpate said at 11:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I hate niners
362 peteike said at 11:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
You gotta be effn kidding me
363 Corry said at 11:30 PM on October 11th, 2015:
That’s close, but I don’t think you can over turn that.
364 peteike said at 11:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Those threads twist
365 anon said at 11:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
sf sucks, unbelievable
366 SteveH said at 11:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He was bobbling it totally, after he got 1 foot down but not the other. No way that’s confirmed.
367 SteveH said at 11:31 PM on October 11th, 2015:
He was bobbling it, got possession, 1 foot down then his butt was out. No catch. NFL messed that up.
368 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
His butt was in
369 SteveH said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I decree the butt was out.
370 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Butt landed in the blue before it slid out
371 peteike said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Why such a fast decision
372 JoeBlow said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
isn’t every scoring play reviewed?
373 Corry said at 11:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
It is, but it was a fast confirmation.
374 JoeBlow said at 11:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
yes i agree
375 TXEaglesFan said at 11:32 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Bethea could have been more aggressive trying to knock that out
376 SteveH said at 11:33 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Screen to Carlos Hyde! I want money!
377 Corry said at 11:34 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Gotta make a faster decision than that Kap. 6 seconds is a lot of time.
378 oreofestar said at 11:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Uuuugh
379 SteveH said at 11:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
What the fuck is that pass protection?
380 A_T_G said at 11:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
What pass protection?
381 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:35 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Niners forgot how to pass block
382 JoeBlow said at 11:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I know one thing…..Giants are extremely beatable
383 Corry said at 11:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Yep. Defense is pretty suspect too.
384 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Davis is going to let them Dink and Dunk us all day
385 peteike said at 11:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Brutal
386 SteveH said at 11:36 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Fuck that noise. Screen to Carlos Hyde all the way.
387 truehaynes said at 11:38 PM on October 11th, 2015:
I was the only one in my pool who picked the miners. Brutal. Would have got me first place
388 Joe Minx said at 11:39 PM on October 11th, 2015:
The end of that game felt like an Eagles loss.
Also new post.
389 SteveH said at 11:40 PM on October 11th, 2015:
Durr we got in the green zone durr, durr big catch and a great win durr..